Let me be the first to say that I don't give a rip what the Lefties feel about this.

Morale = BAD
/moonie

Thanks for the link, Charles.

It's still early. A lot of the moonbats haven't gotten the news yet.

Sometimes I think Bush is not a good leader, but then he does something like this, and I think better of him.

There's a poll currently up on the SF Chronicle Web site about Bush's Iraq visit. Totals: 14% positive, 86% negative.

That's San Francisco for ya.

"Lefties go nuts." So what else is new?

They freak out because Bush breathes. Honestly, he's an idiot and an evil genius at once; if he hadn't stopped in Iraq, it's because of a deep-laid plot; if he stops in Iraq, it's the result of (or the signal of) a deep-laid plot.

This is a sign that they've assigned him the role of the devil in their religion. It's evidence of a god that's lacking.

He is a very brave President....not meaning go to a country we are at war with......three times!

re: #8 storagemanager

He is a very brave President....not many go to a country we are at war with......three times!

re: #5 zombie

Why don't they ask the Iraquis the same question?

Big narcisim there at the Chronicle.

Well, the left is nuts, given that they can only perceive their fantasy political world. I guess we can say they got their nuts extra-jumbled today.

re: #5 zombie

There's a poll currently up on the SF Chronicle Web site about Bush's Iraq visit. Totals: 14% positive, 86% negative.

That's San Francisco for ya.

Didn't Berkeley pass a "Resolution" to impeach Bush? I can't remember, was there a vote during an election?

re: #3 JammieWearingFool

Thanks for the link, Charles.

It's still early. A lot of the moonbats haven't gotten the news yet.

I linked as well, good piece and timely as always. You must live with your face in five screens cruising the net from the timeliness of your posts Jammie. I picture an Octopus working five computers... :)

I dont think Pres Bush lil bio card is going to cause him to worry about being 'slimed' ala Dem Congress critters

Think about it:

How many times did Roosevelt visit the front lines in WWII?

Zero.

How many times did Wilson visit troops in the trenches in the Ardennes?

Zero.

How many times did Johnson go to Vietnam?

Zero.

Clinton in Bosnia? Nope.

Koskidz....
How dare Dubya smile while in Iraq

Why is this man smiling? Where does he think he is?

At a frat party? Hosting cocktails on the White House lawn, introducing one good ol' boy to another? Clearing brush?

...
I've written countless LTE's, dozens of diaries, started my own blog, and I'm losing my mind (emphasis original - ed) over not seeing these efforts, along with those of millions of others, make any difference.

The advance press for Petraeus's report next week is as predictable as the dawn -- more bullshit to fuel the fires of lies.

I wouldn't be surprised if the chick (reporter) who wrote the Tampa Bay Sob Piece on the thread below is a progressive. Or a moron. But how do you tell the difference?

:thumbsup: to Pres.Bush, we have to let these people know that we will stay this time as long as needed.

"suprise"

...some people just can't discern their "truth" from objective reality...

re: #17 zombie

Think about it:

How many times did Roosevelt visit the front lines in WWII?

Zero.

How many times did Wilson visit troops in the trenches in the Ardennes?

Zero.

How many times did Johnson go to Vietnam?

Zero.

Clinton in Bosnia? Nope.

He has put his life on the line three times....he walks the talk...God bless him.

re: #17 zombie

And what do all those Presidents you mentioned have in common?

All Donks.

re: #17 zombie

I wonder who was the last president to enter a war zone.

re: #13 Ginn

re: #5 zombie
Didn't Berkeley pass a "Resolution" to impeach Bush? I can't remember, was there a vote during an election?

Oh sure, Berkeley impeaches Bush every couple months. Sort of like a municipal hobby.

Other cities fix potholes, Berkeley impeaches Bush. Gotta have your priorities straight!

re: #17 zombie

Hmm... very true. He actually looks more at home out there than in DC.

re: #14 Thanos

re: #3 JammieWearingFool

Thanks for the link, Charles.

It's still early. A lot of the moonbats haven't gotten the news yet.

I linked as well, good piece and timely as always. You must live with your face in five screens cruising the net from the timeliness of your posts Jammie. I picture an Octopus working five computers... :)

A labor of love. Plus, I'm a news junkie. What can I say?

And I haven't even ventured over to the HuffPost yet...

This was a very pleasant thing to wake up to this morning!

re: #5 zombie

There's a poll currently up on the SF Chronicle Web site about Bush's Iraq visit. Totals: 14% positive, 86% negative.

That's San Francisco for ya.

Bush could cure cancer and SF would still rate it 86 % negative, saying he invented cancer so he could cure it.. or some such tomfoolery.

re: #24 Killgore Trout

re: #17 zombie

I wonder who was the last president to enter a war zone.

Abraham Lincoln.

Not a Donk either.

re: #18 Killgore Trout

And the insanity begins.

A Chief Naval Petty Officer told a guy on Kos that Bush would visit Iraq to set a targeting schedule for the Iran strike. Bush's new uniform comes with a fancy hat with tassel and his jacket has a place he can put his hand in case a portrait painter happens by!

re: #19 Ginn

I looked her up for ya. Go back a thread.

They should ask the troops what they think, oh, forgot, they don't know anyone in the military it would contaminate their ideology.

re: #17 zombie

Churchill did go, and in fact stayed in London; FDR had polio & was in wheelchair.

Sometimes I do admire Bush.

re: #9 ploome hineni

and the President is wearing a sport shirt and not flack jacket

for everyone to see

Ah! But, still, some are not impressed:

Bush isn't fooling anybody with this little imperial visit. It's unlikely to have much of an effect on public opinion of the war outside of the loyalists who don't need convincing anyway and exploiting the troops he refused to give a pay raise to as a backdrop for politicking just makes him look all the more crass.
Furthermore, it only points out that all these years after proclaiming the mission accomplished, Bush still has to skulk into Iraq unannounced to protect his own sorry skin. Don't you think if things were really improving he should at least be able to make a respectful state visit by now instead of imposing himself as an uninvited guest?

what do they care if he stops by Iraq?
I think he should go more often

I think GW Bush is a very good President

re: #24 Killgore Trout

re: #17 zombie

I wonder who was the last president to enter a war zone.

Good question. Several presidents were in war zones prior to becoming president: Grant, Jackson, Washington, Eisenhower, Teddy Roosevelt, Bush Sr., Kennedy, to name a few. In fact, many of those were elected because they were war heroes.

But to enter the a war zone while president?

Hmmmmm.

re: #18 Killgore Trout

"Why is this man smiling?"

I know it must be hard for the KosKids to get their heads around this: it is customary to smile when having a group photo taken.

What a bunch of maroons. They would criticize the man for breathing.

We all know that Bush is only doing this to help with his re-election.

Oh wait....................

re: #24 Killgore Trout

re: #17 zombie

I wonder who was the last president to enter a war zone.

Not during war, but didn't President Eisenhower visit Japan during the occupation?

Anytime George's face makes the news, it triggers their BDS outbreak. They just can't help themselves.

re: #30 The Other Les

re: #24 Killgore Trout

re: #17 zombie

I wonder who was the last president to enter a war zone.

Abraham Lincoln.

Not a Donk either.

Ah, good memory!

They are all just pissed cuz they didn't get any advance information courtesy the MSM to try to get the personnel on the ground in time for the assassination attempt.

Markos ,"What?! He can't...we didn't have time to...wha? DAMN YOU BUSH!"

re: #24 Killgore Trout

re: #17 zombie

I wonder who was the last president to enter a war zone.

Slick Willie in the White House after Hillary found out about Monica.

Didn't Berkeley pass a "Resolution" to impeach Bush? I can't remember, was there a vote during an election?

I was in Berkeley yesterday and there were chalked reminders all over campus about a rally they were having because those $%� UC Police had the audacity to put a fence around university property! This would be the trees that Zombie published the photos with the nekkid people draped on them.

We walked across the campus, did some shopping (got some obnoxious Cal crocs that I could not resist), visited with the boy and the NGF, and just forgot to go to the rally. I wanted to, but we forgot.

Rats.

And on topic, WTG GWB. Keep 'em guessin'.

LOL @45

re: #30 The Other Les

re: #24 Killgore Trout

re: #17 zombie

I wonder who was the last president to enter a war zone.

Abraham Lincoln.

Not a Donk either.

Of course the Elder Bush (41) may have done so during the 1st Gulf War but my memory is a bit fuzzy there.

Have to go off and do some bureaucracy. Bye.

re: #18 Killgore Trout

bush has always been a careless ass (1+ / 0-)
Recommended by: demetroula

bush has always been a selfish, reckless asshole with no concern for anyone but himself and his small circle of symbiotic jackoffs. treating the lessons of history as irrelevant, he cares not how many people are hurt or killed through his actions. it's shameful how many americans love and defend that jerk, ignoring the truth and facts of how his behavior has harmed millions today, and our grandchildren to come.

Weaker at Home, Hated abroad

by jsepeta on Mon Sep 03, 2007 at 09:51:15 AM PDT

And the inversion of reality is complete for this KosKid.

Good on Pres. Bush. I'm sure the troops there appreciate him coming to see him.

Slightly scary to think he goes there. I guess he goes there on surprise visits to catch the "militants" off base.

re: #41 Thanos

re: #24 Killgore Trout

re: #17 zombie

I wonder who was the last president to enter a war zone.

Not during war, but didn't President Eisenhower visit Japan during the occupation?

Eisenhower was on the front lines in WWI, and was very close to the European front lines occasionally as general in WWII.

re: #33 pat

re: #19 Ginn

I looked her up for ya. Go back a thread.

Hey.. I found it. She knows "Blue Crabs"

Here's one for you... check out "Little Baby Ginn"

[Link: deathby1000papercuts.blogspot.com...]

re: #40 deacon

We all know that Bush is only doing this to help with his re-election.

Oh wait....................

Spot on...he puts his life in danger with 18 months left in office...he didn't have to....he did because he is a man of duty....I can't tell you how much respect I have for him.

re: #34 jcm Indeed, even being seen talking (as opposed to yelling, frothing at the mouth, ya know, typical moonbat's idea of conversation with someone they don't agree with) to someone in the military is gonna take some 'splaning!

re: #25 zombie

re: #13 Ginn

re: #5 zombie
Didn't Berkeley pass a "Resolution" to impeach Bush? I can't remember, was there a vote during an election?

Oh sure, Berkeley impeaches Bush every couple months. Sort of like a municipal hobby.

Other cities fix potholes, Berkeley impeaches Bush. Gotta have your priorities straight!

lol! I guess impeaching Bush is cheaper and easier than fixing potholes!

re: #46 Bob's Kid

Ah, that rally would have been a waste of time. Don't berate yourself! They're rallying every goddamn day now at those ugly trees.

Talk about a waste of energy! It was also revealed that almost all of the "students" living in the trees are not Cal students.

Just professional assholes.

Seething contest: Koskidz v. Muslims. Who'd win?

re: #24 Killgore Trout

re: #17 zombie

I wonder who was the last president to enter a war zone.

Nixon went to China?

Carter went to Tehran and ripped down the gates of Dis with his bare hands. No, wait a minute, I think I'm confused on that one.

It took a real man to do what President Bush did...especially in view of the intense criticism even breathing brings him. He did not have to go. He is not facing an election. It would have been far easier to just go straight to Australia.

I am sure he knew that in regard to the stop in Iraq, he was damned if he did and damned if he didn't.

G-d bless him. What this meant to our heroes is immeasurable.

He is a mensch. I am furious with some of what he has and has not done, but in this gesture he has shown the real George Bush, that Condi and State have tried so hard to suppress.

Well done, Mr. President!

re: #41 Thanos I'm not sure, but I think Ike went to Japan and maybe South Korea during the Korean "Police Action".

He's jsut campaigning for POTUS-fer-life

/

re: #45 solomonpanting ROFL!

CZ's reasoned take on this in 5...4...3...

His ratings are a lot higher over there.

/channeling huffpo

re: #22 storagemanager

re: #17 zombie

Think about it:

How many times did Roosevelt visit the front lines in WWII?

Zero.

How many times did Wilson visit troops in the trenches in the Ardennes?

Zero.

How many times did Johnson go to Vietnam?

Zero.

Clinton in Bosnia? Nope.

He has put his life on the line three times....he walks the talk...God bless him.

I'd up that to 4 with the inclusion of landing on the Abe Lincoln back in 2003.

Cheer up, moonbats. Now there's a reason for you to live.

Lock of Che Guevara's Hair to Be Sold

MIAMI (AP) - A former CIA operative and Cuban exile plans to auction what he says is a lock of Che Guevara's hair, snipped before the Argentinian revolutionary and friend of Fidel Castro was buried in 1967.

Gustavo Villoldo, 71, was involved in Guevara's capture in the jungles of Bolivia, according to unclassified U.S. records and other documents. He plans to auction the hair and other items kept in a scrapbook since the joint CIA-Bolivian army mission 40 years ago.

"It's time for me to put the past behind and pass these on to someone else," said Villoldo, also a veteran of the ill-fated Bay of Pigs invasion of Cuba.

The scrapbook also holds a map used to track down Guevara in Bolivia, photos of Guevara's body, intercepted messages between Guevara and his rebels and a set of Guevara's fingerprints taken before his burial.

It's hard to predict how much the collection will net at auction because there is nothing comparable on the market, said Tom Slater, director of the Americana department at Heritage Auctions of Dallas, which will put the collection on the block Oct. 25-26.

"We cannot recall ever having seen artifacts relating to Che's dramatic career and death appearing on the auction market, and we expect this offering to excite broad bidder interest," Slater said.

The Cuban government announced in 1995 that its anthropologists had uncovered Guevara's remains from Bolivia, and re-interred them in Cuba without doing DNA testing. Villoldo and other exiles and experts say the body is still in Bolivia.

For all of my criticisms of Bush in his 2nd term, I give the man credit for his courage and his convictions. I still remember him walking into that Olympic crowd unescorted by the Secret Service while they were having a fit and talking to the skater's mom on her cell phone. I don't care what anyone says, that takes stainless steel ones.

Clinton, the most gutless and immoral of Presidents, wouldn't have endangered himself in anyway - kind of like the cowards at KKKos. Walking loudly and carry his little stick (in his right hand).

When did Lincoln visit the front lines during the Civil War? Not doubting that it happened, just never knew that he did.

re: #66 NoSubmission

Ew!

Oh, well. It's nice to see the relics of the saints being revived on the left.

When are the lefties NOT freaking out over something? Oh, wait - I remember: Not the slightest hint of a freak when Pelosi hauled her ass to Syria to engage in diplomatic activities directly contrary to the Constitution.

re: #66 NoSubmission

I have a piece of toast that I made this morning that the cooked part looks EXACTLY the shape of Che. I am putting this on Ebay.

I remember his Dad visiting us in the Gulf in 90 or 91.

re: #68 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Keep in mind that the front lines were quite near in our civil war. Folks came out from the cities in carriages with a picnic lunch.

I recall that Pres. Johnson did visit Vietnam in late 1967. It was a brief stopover at the relatively secure base at Camranh Bay.

re: #72 rightwinger3

Wish that his Dad had finished the job.

re: #68 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Before he was inaugurated he had to get through Maryland, and that was dicey.
But I don't thin the Civil war was officially underway then.

re: #68 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

As I recall, Oliver Wendell Holmes famously shouted, "Get down, you fool!" when Lincoln was observing some action in 1864. The front lines were awfully close, then.

I'd have to pull out my copy of Shelby Foote's Civil War trilogy; it's in the 3rd volume, but I don't remember precisely where.

Bush 1, DePalma 0

re: #35 Ojoe

We never saw President Roosevelt in a wheelchair..it was kept hidden. It was a very different world. We didn't even know he had polio.

Here he is, in, I believe, Malta or Yalta, with Churchill and Stalin.

re: #68 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

When did Lincoln visit the front lines during the Civil War? Not doubting that it happened, just never knew that he did.

Didn't take much you know - the "front lines" came extremely close to DC. The plantation house that is now the center of Arlington National Cemetery once belonged to Robert E. Lee.

re: #56 zombie

re: #46 Bob's Kid

Ah, that rally would have been a waste of time. Don't berate yourself! They're rallying every goddamn day now at those ugly trees.

Talk about a waste of energy! It was also revealed that almost all of the "students" living in the trees are not Cal students.

Just professional assholes.

Yep. When my son graduated in May we had to walk past the grove on the way to the Greek, and we saw them with their signs and their incense and their slogans and their smelly food cooking in their hippy vans. Cal students are too darn busy getting an education for that sort of nonsense. My son has, however, volunteered to go up with a chain saw and take care of the problem once and for all. He has this weird idea that UC ought to be able to do whatever they want do to with UC property, hippies be damned.

Makes his ol' mom proud, that one.

re: #70 galloping granny

When are the lefties NOT freaking out over something? Oh, wait - I remember: Not the slightest hint of a freak when Pelosi hauled her ass to Syria to engage in diplomatic activities directly contrary to the Constitution.

Speaking of Pelosi, where has she been hiding?

re: #57 MandyManners ooooh - really good question! A really, really tight race, but I put my money on the Koskidz simply cause they seethe everday, muslims (and especially the Pali's who are - going away - the best muslim seethers around) usually need something significant to happen before seething - you know, like someone drawing and publishing a cartoon of Mo or - heaven forfend, Opus.
Yeah, I think the Koskidz win on frequency, but the muslims on quality of seething.

Charles,

When my 3 year old son throws a tantrum, I put him in the kitchen corner
for a timeout and no attention is given to him.

So, I suggest not highlighting KOS tantrums.
Instead, don't give 'em the attention they so crave. Ignore 'em.

re: #74 Ol' flyboy

I recall that Pres. Johnson did visit Vietnam in late 1967. It was a brief stopover at the relatively secure base at Camranh Bay.

My memory sez the same. I was in Saigon at the time.

re: #73 cbinflux

And had to run like hell during First Manassas. There's something seriously comic about that image.

re: #80 galloping granny

Grrrrrr

re: #79 NY Nana

Look how worn-out he is!

The Jersey Marines do us proud.

re: #66 NoSubmission

Yuck! Someone wants to get cooties!

re: #78 Slumbering Behemoth

I should learn to read some of the posts before jumping in. The revised score (thanks storemanager)

Bush 3, DePalma 0

re: #79 NY Nana

I think that's the Tehran conference.

re: #50 mjk

He was just 'skulking'. Oh, never mind.

BEIJING, Sept. 3 - Three high-tech companies have joined technology in the search for evidence that a 980-foot-long feature on Turkey's Mt. Ararat might be what's left of Noah's Ark.

The high-tech effort involves GeoEye, INTA Space Turk, along with the talents of Satellite Imaging Corporation.

Satellite Imaging Corporation of Houston, Texas has created a 3D terrain model of the so-called "Mt. Ararat anomaly" -- making use of stereo IKONOS satellite image data to create a flyover of the site in remote northeastern Turkey

[Link: ummahnewslinks.com...]

(channeling Kos)...Thank G.d Bush stopped in Iraq!
Now maybe the crazies will smack on him and leave the tinfoilhat diaries alone a la Maccabee!
I read the Kos diary about stop being so stupid my people and some are really jumping on him lol.
Anyone know how much Kos makes off his website?

I give him a lot of credit for this. As the world's biggest target, this took guts.

Sure enough, the HuffPosters are coming unglued.

Though I'm not quite sure when they were ever, um, glued.

Rove is gone, but he must have planned this trip before he left.

I love when the holidays are ruined for angry moonbats.

Both Johnson AND Nixon visited Vietnam while President

re: #94 storagemanager

Not a chance, The Ark was measured in cubits.

I was on my 1st tour in 'Nam when LBJ made a stop over!

re: #39 Blackacre

re: #18 Killgore Trout

"Why is this man smiling?"

I know it must be hard for the KosKids to get their heads around this: it is customary to smile when having a group photo taken.

What a bunch of maroons. They would criticize the man for breathing.

Just as the troops need to keep their spirits up in these trying times, our President leads the way. He is looks great! Not anything like a tired, worn man that so many presidents look after so many years in office. Bush is inspiring.

Yeah, the Kos Kids are right! How dare Dubya smile when visiting Iraq! He is supposed to weep, cover his head with ashes and sob "Sorry I got you into this quagmire for Halliburton, this lost war! I am going to immediately pull you out and declare Sharia law in all of Iraq, heck, all of the Middle East and the United States as well to show how deeply sorry I am for offending the ROP sensitivities! I should have always listened to opinion polls when making my decision! BoooHoooo!"

That's what a REAL Commander-in-Chief should do.

re: #65 Bobibutu

re: #22 storagemanager

re: #17 zombie

Think about it:

How many times did Roosevelt visit the front lines in WWII?

Zero.

How many times did Wilson visit troops in the trenches in the Ardennes?

Zero.

How many times did Johnson go to Vietnam?

Zero.

Clinton in Bosnia? Nope.

He has put his life on the line three times....he walks the talk...God bless him.

I'd up that to 4 with the inclusion of landing on the Abe Lincoln back in 2003.

Well, now - wait just a cotton pickin' minute there. That Yalta conference that FDR attended involved an awful lot of travel right straight through the "front lines." Yalta is a Russian port on the Black Sea. The conference was held at the palace built by Czar Nicolas II at Lavadia. I would say that was pretty darned "front line." And that does not include the conference that FDR attended (hosted really I think) up at Campo Bello. FDR might not have spent much time with the Army, but he saw a lot of the Army Air Corps and the Navy.

re: #94 storagemanager

BEIJING, Sept. 3 - Three high-tech companies have joined
technology in the search for evidence that a 980-foot-long feature on
Turkey's Mt. Ararat might be what's left of Noah's Ark.The high-tech effort involves GeoEye, INTA Space Turk, along with the talents of Satellite Imaging Corporation.

[Link: ummahnewslinks.com...]

Space Turk? Sounds like a bad "Superfriends" cartoon villian. "Holy Ramadan, Batman! It's Space Turk!"

re: #14 Thanos

re: #3 JammieWearingFool

Thanks for the link, Charles.

It's still early. A lot of the moonbats haven't gotten the news yet.

I linked as well, good piece and timely as always. You must live with your face in five screens cruising the net from the timeliness of your posts Jammie. I picture an Octopus working five computers... :)

charlie the sqid

re: #97 JammieWearingFool
The average Huffpo'er has to be at least 15 years old.

re: #68 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey I'm not really sure that Lincoln visited the front lines as in "was in a combat area while the bullets were flying" but the fact is that there were numerous battles and skirmishes all over Northern Virginia and just going to one battle site AFTER that battle was, theoretically over, was very much akin to what Bush did today.

Technically, I suppose, all the Presidents who visited the DMZ in Korea (which as I recall includes Reagan, Bush Sr. and Clinton) were in a war zone while in office.

President Johnson visited Cam Ranh Bay on October 26, 1966, and President Nixon went to Saigon on April 14, 1967 according to this website.

See it's just like Vietnam!

/LLL

re: #101 Born Again Republican

To the notes above re: what that job does to a man, how it accellerates aging... would FDT survive even one term, even given his laziness? It wouldn't be doing him a favor...

I wouldn't have been this way 7 years ago but I swear if this country ever goes to war on our soil and I get the opportunity, I am going to throw some of these raving lefty lunatics to the wolves.

And no, I am not kidding. And yes, I think the world would be a much better place for it.

re: #100 'Nam Grunt

I was on my 1st tour in 'Nam when LBJ made a stop over!

He once picked me up by my ears. Just once!

re: #88 Ojoe

IIRC, it was not that long before his death. We saw newsreels, etc., as there was no TV...and it was far easier to control what we saw, especially in the midst of WWII.

***This is how we saw him...he spent his vacations in Warm Springs, GA.

***photo is from 1932, 6 years before I was born.

re: #106 NoSubmission
Diagramming that sentence now.

/

(IsraelNN.com) Archaeologists digging south of Beit She'an in the Jordan Valley have uncovered, for the first time ever, beehives from the period of Israel's kings.

The dig, at Tel Rehov, located between the religious Kibbutzim Sdei Eliyahu and Ein HaNetziv, is being supervised by archaeologist Amichai Mazar of Hebrew University. Mazar is a nephew of the famed archaeologist Binyamin Mazar, whose archaeologist daughter, Dr. Eilat Mazar, is a member of the Committee to Prevent the Destruction of Temple Mount Antiquities.

The tel - a heap of ancient ruins from different periods, one on top of another - at Rehov is twice the size of Tel Megiddo, and the excavation team has found there rich destruction layers. Among the finds there were hundreds of restorable vessels, figurines, cult stands and the only beehives ever found in an excavation of an Iron Age site.

The discovery of the beehives was made this past summer, and "it is the earliest beehive complex currently known," Prof. Mazar says. "It is dated to the 10th–9th centuries B.C.E." - around the time of King Solomon.

[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

re: #92 Dianna

In 20/20 hindsight, I am pretty sure that you are right.

re: #114 buzzsawmonkey

As far as you know...

re: #107 realwest

Yes, he did. Really. Oliver Wendell Holmes was a very junior officer, who yelled at Lincoln to get down, because bullets were flying.

Kind of like Churchill during the general strike of '27.

re: #74 Ol' flyboy

I recall that Pres. Johnson did visit Vietnam in late 1967. It was a brief stopover at the relatively secure base at Camranh Bay.

Interesting. I never knew that.

And here's a photo of Johnson in Vietnam!

Asshole on CNN just said Anbar is the only place where the forces have been successful.

re: #111 goodbye_natalie

I wouldn't have been this way 7 years ago but I swear if this
country ever goes to war on our soil and I get the opportunity, I am
going to throw some of these raving lefty lunatics to the wolves.

And no, I am not kidding. And yes, I think the world would be a much better place for it.

What makes you think wolves will like the taste of moonbat? Patchouli & self-hatred can't be all that appetizing.

re: #111 goodbye_natalie

I wouldn't have been this way 7 years ago but I swear if this country ever goes to war on our soil and I get the opportunity, I am going to throw some of these raving lefty lunatics to the wolves.

And no, I am not kidding. And yes, I think the world would be a much better place for it.

Wolves = BIG DOGS. Mo's pals no likey. The closest pig farm would prolly do just fine.

re: #112 cbinflux

Got a photo? :)

Note to self: don't watch CNN.

North Korea appears to be backing down, for now, and not a peep from the progressives.

Most progressives have good jobs (or their parents do) and pay relatively meager taxes.

There is absolutely nothing Bush could do to make the progressives give him any credit whatsoever.

re: #95 ArmyAunt

I assume he does pretty well from advertisements on his blog, it's a very high traffic site. But I think the real big money probably comes from Progressive think tanks (Soros, Move On, et al) and from political campaigns in exchange for his "services".

Isnt just the lefties going nuts. I went to Al Jazeera's arabic page and translated.

Seems some are claiming that Bush's plane has been shot down and he is badly injured and that is the real reason he landed in Anbar rather than Baghdad

Victor
The plane which was to transport the American President George Bush to Baghdad to the shooting in the vicinity of the city of Baghdad during landing at Asad base west of Baghdad and informed sources said that American warplanes were accompanied by Bush's plane was to fire ground without clarify whether the Bush plane been injured or forced landing in one of the Iraqi airports

re: #106 NoSubmission

re: #97 JammieWearingFool
The average Huffpo'er has to be at least 15 years old.

You can almost smell the rage, what with the typos, random capitalization and sputtering run-on sentences.

re: #49 lowandslow

From your link:

his small circle of symbiotic jackoffs.

Symbiotic jackoffs. Wow, those are the worst kind!

Who cares what words mean as long as they have a cool scientifical sound?

JWM

re: #120 zombie

zombie - who took the picture?

re: #121 MandyManners

Asshole on CNN just said Anbar is the only place where the forces have been successful.

Correct me if I am wrong Mandy, but as I recall wasn't Anbar the most restive of the various provinces or close to until fairly recently?

re: #124 NY Nana

I've got a Reuters stringer working on it.

re: #97 JammieWearingFool

expand collapse lakat (See profile | I'm a fan of lakat)
The troops are not trained well enough and they do not get to spend enough rest time at home, but morale is great! Maybe I am misinformed about what morale means

expand collapse Marlyn (See profile | I'm a fan of Marlyn)
Currently, new recruits recieve a bonus of $20,000 if they agree to skip basic training. Those troops are really happy.

They really believe this. I would love to take them to MCRD San Diego, 29 Palms, Camp Pendleton etc.

re: #81 Bob's Kid

My son has, however, volunteered to go up with a chain saw and take care of the problem once and for all. He has this weird idea that UC ought to be able to do whatever they want do to with UC property, hippies be damned.

Love it! Tell your son he gets the zombie Stamp of Approval!

If only all Cal students were like him.

re: #100 'Nam Grunt

Hi, my favorite hero! I hear that was quite a BBQ.

It's a shame that the left can't dig deep and just go for this last push and then call for the withdrawal of troops at a more reasonable time. Instead they want to tear down every bit of good that could possibly come out of this situation.

re: #121 MandyManners

Anbar is by far the most important province, tho.

re: #98 alwyr Are you sure Nixon went to Vietnam while President? Do you know what year?

re: #132 galloping granny

It was.

re: #128 Bill Amos

Isnt just the lefties going nuts. I went to Al Jazeera's arabic page and translated.

Seems some are claiming that Bush's plane has been shot down and he is badly injured and that is the real reason he landed in Anbar rather than Baghdad

Victor
The plane which was to transport the American President George Bush to Baghdad to the shooting in the vicinity of the city of Baghdad during landing at Asad base west of Baghdad and informed sources said that American warplanes were accompanied by Bush's plane was to fire ground without clarify whether the Bush plane been injured or forced landing in one of the Iraqi airports

ROFLMAO! Like the idiotic MSM that are with him would let THAT go unnoticed. Riiiight.

re: #117 NY Nana

I'm not sure, either, but I was going by the fact that Roosevelt was ill at Tehran; he was better at Yalta. Also, Stalin, at Yalta, wore his "Marshall" uniform most of the time; it didn't look to me like that's what Stalin was wearing there.

re: #133 cbinflux

Fresca™ spew! :)

re: #133 cbinflux

I've got your source circling the drain in the counter-clockwise direction as we speak.

re: #121 MandyManners

Asshole on CNN just said Anbar is the only place where the forces have been successful.

Heh. Do they not relaize they used the term "successful" and "Iraq" in the same sentance?

Evan BDS is overcoming the love for a son:
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My son will be leaving for Iraq in December. He actually believes that he is doing a good thing. It not only saddens me what is happening to so many people, but to also watch my son change overnight from intelligent to indoctrinated.
This craziness has gone on too long!

by oolali on Mon Sep 03, 2007 at 10:20:38 AM PDT

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#132 galloping granny,

Last April the folks that live there couldn't walk down the street to buy bread!

re: #134 rightwinger3

They really believe this. I would love to take them to MCRD San Diego, 29 Palms, Camp Pendleton etc.

Some of my favorite sites in California.

re: #100 'Nam Grunt Hey bro' - how you doing this fine day? I know that this comment is waaaay after yours, but this thread is really skipping along!
Hope you're doing well my friend.

Guess the word isn't out yet.
Waiting for the usual mobys and trolls and not a one. They will not be able to resist this thread.

re: #142 Dianna

Your memory is scaring me! I can't remember breakfast.

re: #68 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

When did Lincoln visit the front lines during the Civil War? Not doubting that it happened, just never knew that he did.

Grant's Headquarters - President Lincoln Comes to City Point

[snip]
President Lincoln, wanting to verify reports of Grant's success and to escape the pressures of Washington, traveled to City Point with his wife, Mary, and youngest son, Tad. They arrived in City Point via the James River aboard the ship, the River Queen, on March 24, 1865.

General and Mrs. Grant welcomed the first family to City Point. During his stay, President Lincoln, who had just started his second term as President, toured the Petersburg front with Grant. He met with Grant and high-level army officials to plan the end of the war and start the process of bringing the country back together.
[snip]

I wonder who was the last president to enter a war zone.

Well after Bill Clinton got exposed (in more than one way) I'm sure the Lincoln bedroom became an area of intense conflict. Does that count?

Does this mean Dick Chaney is in charge?

I like that. I feel safer already.

re: #129 JammieWearingFool

Touche.

re: #130 JWM

"Symbiotic jackoffs."
Must have something to do with a helping hand.

#136 NY Nana,

I aim to please when I cook for the best folks in the world darlin'. LOL

re: #130 JWM

You're just jealous that Sycophantic Cl*tslitters never caught on.

I voted for it though.

re: #139 realwest

re: #98 alwyr Are you sure Nixon went to Vietnam while President? Do you know what year?

July 30, 1969
Nixon Visits Vietnam
President Nixon visits U.S. troops and President Thieu in Vietnam. This is Nixon's only trip to Vietnam during his presidency.

[Link: www.coldwarfiles.org...]

re: #148 JammieWearingFool

Jammie, the only good parts of CA.

re: #139 realwest

re: #98 alwyr Are you sure Nixon went to Vietnam while President? Do you know what year?

See my link at #108.

re: #106 NoSubmission Hey No Sub! How are y'all today?
"The average Huffpo'er has to be at least not more than 15 years old.
There, fixed that for you!

re: #156 DEZes

re: #130 JWM

"Symbiotic jackoffs."
Must have something to do with a helping hand.

LOL!

re: #103 galloping granny

Well, now - wait just a cotton pickin' minute there. That Yalta conference that FDR attended involved an awful lot of travel right straight through the "front lines." Yalta is a Russian port on the Black Sea. The conference was held at the palace built by Czar Nicolas II at Lavadia. I would say that was pretty darned "front line."

Eh, I'm not so sure about that. The Yalta conference was in Feb. '45, and the German air force was decimated by then. Almost no risk of FDR's plane getting shot down. And the Russians had driven every last German soldier out of Russia by then as well: the Crimean Peninsula was totally safe, hundreds of miles deep into the USSR.

When aren't the Islamo-libs not seething.

re: #5 zombie

There's a poll currently up on the SF Chronicle Web site about Bush's Iraq visit. Totals: 14% positive, 86% negative.

That's San Francisco for ya.

SF'ers forget (well, its likely cognitive dissonance) that SF is on the (un)official Islamic list of cities to receive a day-glow treatment.

Did Katie Couric get the scoop or did she leave, only to discover ...
If she was replaced with a cockroach that read actual news with no snark, their ratings would skyrocket.

#149 realwest,

Doing Tony the Tiger Greaaaaaat Bro'. ;-)

re: #150 wanumba

Don't you need DeepSeaGear to hook mobys? Lightweight spinning rod with two pound test (baited with a bare hook) is all that's necessary for the troll family...

re: #128 Bill Amos

Seems some are claiming that Bush's plane has been shot down and he is badly injured and that is the real reason he landed in Anbar rather than Baghdad

Next they'll be telling us that he's dead and his place has been taken by a pod-person GWB controlled by the Dajjal.

*rolls eyes

re: #108 Dar ul Harb Um Dar, Nixon wasn't President in '67. Sorry 'bout that.

Hey my son just flew out to Iraq. Wonder if he was on same plane as President. Just a though. Opps he's going to different base

re: #168 'Nam Grunt

But those gams!

re: #151 NY Nana

Soviet studies...we spent a lot of time learning to interpret "nuances" of Soviet behavior. I swear, that's one of the reasons the Cold War took so long; our analysts were always spending too much time studying every little tic and stylistic change of Kremlin dress and speech, looking for "signals".

I started muttering to myself, "Never mind his eyes! Watch his hands."

re: #113 NY Nana

Thank you for the history photos.

I remember reading somewhere that FDR made a joke about why the warm springs were theraputic; 'My doctor says it's because they have square bubbles", or something like that.

Now I have to get some work done for a few hours,

'bye all.

re: #156 DEZes

LOL:
Best laugh of the morning award!

JWM

Oops. Nixon wasn't President at the time.

BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey (#68),

When did Lincoln visit the front lines during the Civil War? Not doubting that it happened, just never knew that he did.

Lincoln visited the front many times, but one stands out, when an officer standing just three feet away was shot:

By July 12 [1864], regular Union troops from the Sixth Corps had arrived to confront Early's Confederate veterans. Mr. Lincoln had gone down to greet them as they came off boats on the Potomac River. Later, Mr. Lincoln went to Fort Stevens (located in Northwest Washington at the current intersection of Thirteenth Street and Quackenbos Streets). According to Stimmel, "he made a bee line for Fort Stevens, about as fast as the old coach horses could take him, and arrived before the whole of the Sixth Corps got there. On arriving at the Fort, the President left his carriage and took his position behind the earthworks of the Fort, which left us at liberty for the time being to put in the time as we saw fit." The President stood on the ramparts of Fort Stevens, next to an officer who was wounded. As one soldier reported the incident: "Old Abe and his wife was in the Fort at the time and Old Abe and his doctor was standing up on the parapets and the sharpshooter that I speak of shot the doctor through the left thigh, and Old Abe ordered our men to fall back."⁴ Captain Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. allegedly shouted at the President: "Get down, you damn fool!" Before the President left the fort, he said good-bye to the future Supreme Court justice, adding, "I'm glad to see you known how to talk to a civilian."

re: #171 buzzsawmonkey

re: #130 JWM

Didn't the Symbiotic Jackoffs open for Progressive Madness at that big concert in Candlestick Park?

No, that was Leftwing Crybaby. The show sucked.

re: #167 wanumba

Did Katie Couric get the scoop or did she leave, only to discover ...
If she was replaced with a cockroach that read actual news with no snark, their ratings would skyrocket.

Last I saw she was whining that she was only allowed to go where the military took her and they were not showing her the "rotten" stuff, only the good stuff. Poor Katie.

Bush is dead?

Then Chaney is in charge.

re: #112 cbinflux I thought that was LGFer Beagle!
;>'

What always strikes me most when we hear Bush has made a "surprise visit" to Iraq is that it is truly kept a secret. I will always have enormous respect for our Commander in Chief.

Imagine George telling Laura, Honey, I'm going to make a stop over in Iraq, see the fine folks over there and make sure they know I'm behind them 100%. Then imagine Slick Willy saying, Hilary, I have to make a stop in Iraq on the way because the press thinks I'm not showing enough support for the troops. Make sure you lay out my flak jacket will ya?

From HuffPo:

RebelPatriot (See profile | I'm a fan of RebelPatriot)
Come on Iraqi's - you practiced on Apaches and Blackhawks, time for something big an slow.
Log in | posted 12:27 pm on 09/03/2007

niiiiiice...jackass

re: #160 rightwinger3

re: #148 JammieWearingFool

Jammie, the only good parts of CA.

I love the San Diego area. My BiL has been there many years. Love being surrounded by all that firepower. Had been planning a trip for the fall, but it's been delayed to the spring since I'll be going out on business then anyway.

re: #131 Cap'n DOC

re: #120 zombie

zombie - who took the picture?

It's from a page of snapshots taken by soldiers, I think.

Here's the source page.

Looks like someone named "Ken Hopkins."

re: #119 Dianna Well, well - live and learn - especially out here at LGF!
Um do you happen to know what battle that was?

re: #169 Cap'n DOC

re: #150 wanumba
Don't you need DeepSeaGear to hook mobys? Lightweight spinning rod with two pound test (baited with a bare hook) is all that's necessary for the troll family...

Hehe. I lean towards the traditional goat on a tether.

re: #175 Dianna

Cop 101

re: #146 g3n3r1c

My son will be leaving for Iraq in December. He actually believes that he is doing a good thing. It not only saddens me what is happening to so many people, but to also watch my son change overnight from intelligent to indoctrinated.
This craziness has gone on too long!

by oolali on Mon Sep 03, 2007 at 10:20:38 AM PDT

Another Cindy Sheehan, Part Deaux. These sons are trying their best to get away from their worthless parents. I say hoorah for the son and commend him for his bravery. He's telling Mom I love America and would rather take a bullet than listen to your traitorous horseshit any longer. Let oolali ponder that for awhile.

re: #186 JammieWearingFool

Watch for the 300!

re: #164 zombie

re: #103 galloping granny

Well, now - wait just a cotton pickin' minute there. That Yalta conference that FDR attended involved an awful lot of travel right straight through the "front lines." Yalta is a Russian port on the Black Sea. The conference was held at the palace built by Czar Nicolas II at Lavadia. I would say that was pretty darned "front line."

Eh, I'm not so sure about that. The Yalta conference was in Feb. '45, and the German air force was decimated by then. Almost no risk of FDR's plane getting shot down. And the Russians had driven every last German soldier out of Russia by then as well: the Crimean Peninsula was totally safe, hundreds of miles deep into the USSR.

Zombie, it is a hell of a long ways from Washington DC to Yalta on the Black Sea. During WWII there was no such thing as non-stop air travel either.

Is he supposed to perpetually frown because some people think he's doing the wrong thing? If that's the case then all presidents should constantly be frowning.

re: #191 goodbye_natalie

Spot on.

re: #183 realwest

re: #112 cbinflux I thought that was LGFer Beagle!
;>'

Darn, you caught me! I fell so, so Rides a Pale Horse dirty...
/

re: #186 JammieWearingFool

Can't say I have good memories of San Diego, I only lived there for 13 weeks. Didn't get out much and always had people yelling at me for doing stupid shit. However, SD is a beautiful city outside the fence.

Johnson shaking hands in Vietnam, Xmas 1967.

re: #179 Geepers

As one soldier reported the incident: "Old Abe and his wife was in the Fort at the time and Old Abe and his doctor was standing up on the parapets and the sharpshooter that I speak of shot the doctor through the left thigh, and Old Abe ordered our men to fall back."

Wow. Not only visited the front, but acted as battlefield Commander-in-Chief.

re: #182 IBEW-CON

Bush is dead?
Then Chaney is in charge.

Really? Who's that?

re: #188 realwest

Not off-hand. But someone linked the Fort Stevens story in the 170-range of comments.

realwest (#188),

See my #179.

Leaders lead from the front.

Thanks for riling up the nutroots Mr. President!
Bless you.

Your point is valid, but the facts are wrong......President Johnson actually visited Vietnam twice.

re: #190 cbinflux

Something like!

Lincoln went to Richmond just after Grant's victory there. The General and others were late to meet with him so he set of alone with a couple of soldiers to view his prize. He even sat behind Davis' desk. Pretty close to a war zone visit I think.

re: #176 Ojoe

How dare you try to work? :)

Cya soon!

re: #205 Dianna

Just really good Basic Instincts

re: #170 abu_garcia

re: #128 Bill Amos

Seems some are claiming that Bush's plane has been shot down and he is badly injured and that is the real reason he landed in Anbar rather than Baghdad

Next they'll be telling us that he's dead and his place has been taken by a pod-person GWB controlled by the Dajjal.

*rolls eyes

Armies of Bush clones will be marching across the Iranian frontier within hours. Bullets won't stop them!

watching the POTUS speak to the troops now, judging by the reception they gave him, the troops certianly support the Pres.

As to the left-leaning blogs who call him a cowboy and a coward (sometimes even in the same breath) may I remind them he's in the ANBAR provence for gooness sakes.. so I guess it's time to move the goalposts again..

re: #193 galloping granny

Zombie, it is a hell of a long ways from Washington DC to Yalta on the Black Sea. During WWII there was no such thing as non-stop air travel either.

Yes, it is a long way. I was trying to find out what FDR's itinerary was to get to Yalta, but couldn't uncover the info!

I presume he went DC-London-Moscow (via Scandinavia) -Yalta.

We owned the North Atlantic by then, and the Arctic. Russian airspace was safe too.

re: #157 'Nam Grunt

And from what I heard, you outdid yourself!

re: #196 cbinflux LOL! Sorry my friend, but that was just such a natural I couldn't help myself!

Actually FDR went to Cassablanca in 1943 and even on to cairo

In fact he was almost lost when the BB Iowa escaped a torpedo attack. By a US DD.

[Link: navy.memorieshop.com...]

Amusing Naval History, the USS Willie D
© 1993, by Kit Bonner, Naval Historian and published with his consent.
from: "The Purple Foxes"

In 1943, the Willie D as the Porter was nicknamed, accidentally fired a live torpedo at the battleship Iowa during a practice exercise. As if this weren't bad enough, the Iowa was carrying President Franklin D. Roosevelt at the time, along with Secretary of State, Cordell Hull, and all of the country's W.W.II military brass. They were headed for the Big Three Conference in Tehran, where Roosevelt was to meet Stalin and Churchill. Had the Porter's torpedo struck the Iowa at the aiming point, the last 50 years of world history might have been quite different.

I don't care what ANYONE says President Bush is a soldiers President, and anyone that says different can KMA|!

Hey, real! I'm good today, thanks! Taking LGF breaks from sitting in my yard, and getting a little sun on this most beautiful day.
How about you?

re: #200 wanumba

re: #182 IBEW-CON

Bush is dead?
Then Chaney is in charge.

Really? Who's that?

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #122 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #111 goodbye_natalie

I wouldn't have been this way 7 years ago but I swear if this
country ever goes to war on our soil and I get the opportunity, I am
going to throw some of these raving lefty lunatics to the wolves.

And no, I am not kidding. And yes, I think the world would be a much better place for it.

What makes you think wolves will like the taste of moonbat? Patchouli & self-hatred can't be all that appetizing.

You have to bleed them and marinate them before cooking.

re: #211 Yankee Division Son

He was great! And the cheers were deafening..../whoops, it was a Bush impersonator..my bad.

I guess CNN has nothing to say about Bush bashing the media so they're going to talk about cartoon books now.

#213 NY Nana,

LOL, it was all Miss Trixie's fault! ;-)

re: #204 sandeman39

Your point is valid, but the facts are wrong......President Johnson actually visited Vietnam twice.

Yes, I have pointed that our repeatedly in subsequent comments! Retract the Johnson portion of my comment #17.

We all make boo-boos!

re: #146 g3n3r1c

Only explanation I can come up with is the Rovian Mind Control Device is in full swing.......

re: #202 Geepers I did, but unfortunately after I typed and posted my comment - which I did right after reading Dianna's post.
Damn that Ajax and my slow typing! LOL!

re: #212 zombie

Ouch! It is starting to sound like the Dean scream! :)

Seriously, it was amazing, considering his health, and that it was the pre-jet age.

George W. Bush should smile much more often if it causes a disturbance among the kooks in the world.

re: #223 zombie

Zombies make boo-boos?! I thought that was Casper's territory?

Ooops, I forgot! JOHN KERRY was in Vietnam, wasn't he?

President Bush is a great man... Who cares what the leftists think?

re: #222 'Nam Grunt

Miss Trixie? Who is Miss Trixie? :)

re: #229 alwyr

Ooops, I forgot! JOHN KERRY was in Vietnam, wasn't he?

Yep, left a small part of his ass there.

#229 alwyr,

Sure was but he was a TRAITOR not a President|!

re: #223 zombie

Not you, zombie!

(joke, minor)

re: #215 Bill Amos

Wow! The stuff one learns on LGF!

Good find.

re: #223 zombie

Oh, no, not the dreaded comment #17!

re: #212 zombie

re: #193 galloping granny

Zombie, it is a hell of a long ways from Washington DC to Yalta on the Black Sea. During WWII there was no such thing as non-stop air travel either.

Yes, it is a long way. I was trying to find out what FDR's itinerary was to get to Yalta, but couldn't uncover the info!

I presume he went DC-London-Moscow (via Scandinavia) -Yalta.

We owned the North Atlantic by then, and the Arctic. Russian airspace was safe too.

I once was very close to someone who attended that conference. Don't know how they got there though because this individual was never allowed to speak of such things, even to family. Thus, I know only the barest of details. My grandchildren, if one of them lives long enough, might be able to get all the blanks filled in under FOI.

Dar ul Harb (#199),

I recently read a very interesting biography of Lincoln by David Herbert Donald that dealt only with his writings and left out all the ancillary stuff. He was quite an interesting character.

Oh wait, Pat Schroeder says Conservatives don't read books. Never mind, I made that up.

re: #232 cbinflux

So that is why he is a perfect asshole.

#231 NY Nana,

HAHAHA! All that counts is that I know who Miss Trixie is. ;-)

Those silly progressives. Always looking for attention in the worst way.

Pennsylvania educators learn about moderate Islam from terrorists....
Local educators learn about Islam on trip to Egypt

On the trip, the teachers saw a blend of religion, culture and politics. They visited a mosque of the mystical Sufi sect of Islam and a Coptic church at which Christians, like Muslims, leave their shoes outside.

Another highlight for participants was meeting members of the Muslim Brotherhood, the leading opposition group in Egypt to President Hosni Mubarak.

Yoder, a history and Spanish teacher, plans to use his experience to develop a class on world religions.

"We generally think of Muslims as radicals or extremists, and I would like to present a case of moderate Islam that has a deep desire to get along with Christians and Jews," he said. "Egypt is a good example of a place where Christians and Muslims have gotten along for centuries."

HA!

TOP SECRET Operation SPF-30: Reagan in Grenada

re: #217 NoSubmission I'm doing ok - first day of the three day weekend I haven't been literally worn out from shopping, shopping, shopping (I think my Mom may be the best - and in her age group, most active - shopper around! LOL!

re: #237 galloping granny

I once was very close to someone who attended that conference. Don't know how they got there though because this individual was never allowed to speak of such things, even to family. Thus, I know only the barest of details. My grandchildren, if one of them lives long enough, might be able to get all the blanks filled in under FOI.

Talk about family secrets! How fascinating to have such a close connection to a pivotal moment in history.

re: #200 wanumba

Really? Who's that?

You remember!

Most of the leftwing loonies couldn't find Iraq on a black and white map if it was the only one in color! They still persist in ranting about a situation they are clueless about. Terrorism? In their deluded minds the only terrorists are American soldiers and the Administration. Islamic Fundamentalists? they think Christian and Jews are comparable. Beheadings and murder-bombings? Just the oppressed fighting American oppression. If they could pull their jeads out of the clouds (or out of their ***) they might see reality - nah, it'll never happer. Thats why their leftwingers in the first place.

And, btw, President Johnson visited Vietnam twice. Bush isn;t the only one.

re: #103 galloping granny

re: #65 Bobibutu

re: #22 storagemanager

re: #17 zombie

Think about it:

How many times did Roosevelt visit the front lines in WWII?

Zero.

How many times did Wilson visit troops in the trenches in the Ardennes?

Zero.

How many times did Johnson go to Vietnam?

Zero.

Clinton in Bosnia? Nope.

He has put his life on the line three times....he walks the talk...God bless him.

I'd up that to 4 with the inclusion of landing on the Abe Lincoln back in 2003.

Well, now - wait just a cotton pickin' minute there. That Yalta conference that FDR attended involved an awful lot of travel right straight through the "front lines." Yalta is a Russian port on the Black Sea. The conference was held at the palace built by Czar Nicolas II at Lavadia. I would say that was pretty darned "front line." And that does not include the conference that FDR attended (hosted really I think) up at Campo Bello. FDR might not have spent much time with the Army, but he saw a lot of the Army Air Corps and the Navy.

Your point is well taken however my point is that landing on a carrier is high risk vs. traveling in general.

Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said his country would never give in to the threats of the West on the nuclear matter or any other.

Speaking before students, Khamenei commented on US President George Bush's statements last week that Iran could lead the Middle East into a nuclear holocaust."Iran will beat those drunk and arrogant superpowers with wisdom," Khamenei said

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

re: #223 zombie That's not true! I NEVER make a boo-boo; I do, unfortunately make (many) mistakes, but never a boo-boo!
I mean, really!
;>'

re: #197 rightwinger3

re: #186 JammieWearingFool

Can't say I have good memories of San Diego, I only lived there for 13 weeks. Didn't get out much and always had people yelling at me for doing stupid shit. However, SD is a beautiful city outside the fence.

I've never been berated by anyone there.

I just radiate soothing serenity.

re: #184 quietlyoffensive

What always strikes me most when we hear Bush has made a "surprise visit" to Iraq is that it is truly kept a secret. I will always have enormous respect for our Commander in Chief.

Imagine George telling Laura, Honey, I'm going to make a stop over in Iraq, see the fine folks over there and make sure they know I'm behind them 100%. Then imagine Slick Willy saying, Hilary, I have to make a stop in Iraq on the way because the press thinks I'm not showing enough support for the troops. Make sure you lay out my flak jacket will ya?

Of course he kept it secret. He kept the 9/11 conspiracy secret, too.

/(I think I gave myself indigestion writing that.)

re: #247 sandeman39

[Link: www.worldnetdaily.com...]

Ronald Reagan

Winning the Cold War

[Link: content.answers.com...]

re: #229 alwyr Yeah, but thank God he was never President!

re: #218 itellu3times

Dang! Ya beat me to it!

re: #245 zombie

re: #237 galloping granny

I once was very close to someone who attended that conference. Don't know how they got there though because this individual was never allowed to speak of such things, even to family. Thus, I know only the barest of details. My grandchildren, if one of them lives long enough, might be able to get all the blanks filled in under FOI.

Talk about family secrets! How fascinating to have such a close connection to a pivotal moment in history.

That one is the least of the secrets Zombie. It just happens to be one I know about - I know for a fact that thousands of deep dark historical secrets went to the grave with this individual. And I would LOVE to know, trust me.

In all the years that I knew this person, I know of just ONE slip of the tongue. On a visit to see me in Germany, as we were leaving the airport in Frankfurt this person looks around and says "I haven't been here since ------- dead stop." Not another word could I weasel out.

Ooops, AGAIN! (this is getting tiring) Bill Clinton was in the Soviet Union....AT THE HEIGHT OF THE COLD WAR!

re: #27 JammieWearingFool

Jammie,
I am late looking in this morning, but huffpo is working from the "pilot tells Bush that the troops are not trained well enough and do not get to spend enough time at home" angle.

The ignorance of the nutroots is staggering. This man is the President of the United States whether they like him as person or not. Every time he steps outside his life is in danger. It's the nature of the job. I am sure that if BC had gone to Kosovo they would have thought he was a bold leader.

The hate just grows and grows. The fact that Democrats give any regard to kos and huffpo is very dangerous. The fact that some of our elected officials post on these is just treasonous.

How DARE Saddam "The Giraffe" Hussein FROWN while presiding over the victory the DemoCracks tell us he has acheived over Bush.

re: #258 alwyr

Calling BS on that. It might be partially/technically true but...

re: #175 Dianna

It was a scary time here. How the world has changed re who the common enemy is. Alas, there are those who still refuse to recognize the threat.

Our youngest went on a high school honors trip to the former USSR...surreal. They went to Moscow and St. Petersburg. (Leningrad back then.)

Again FDR went overseas in 1943 while the war was still ongoing via battleship through the Mediteranian

[Link: www.mindspring.com...]

Roosevelt’s historic journey began after dinner on November 11, 1943, when he slipped out of the White House and was driven secretly to the Marine Corps Base at Quantico, Virginia. There, he and other members of his party boarded the presidential yacht USS Potomac AG-25. Down river at the mouth of the Potomac River they met the IOWA.

The utmost secrecy concerning the president’s movement was observed. This journey was much more complicated and dangerous than any FDR would ever undertake. Communications were a particular problem, no mater where he was - ashore in a foreign country airborne or afloat - it was vital that he be able to reach or be reached by Washington in minutes. Military communications teams worked in relays to accomplish this.

Two days later, the Iowa faced danger again as it streamed through the Straits of Gibraltar - a natural submarine trap for surface ships. As the task group approached the straits, six additional warships joined them: the light cruiser U.S.S. BROOKLYN CL-40, the destroyers U.S.S. EDISON DD-439 and the U.S.S. TRIPPE DD-403, along with the British destroyer HMS TOWBRIDGE, HMS TYRIAN and HMS TEAZER.

All made a late evening run of the straits at a speed of 27 knots with all ships at general quarters. In a little under two hours, the 10 ships had transited the straits safely. Early on November 20th, the Iowa anchored at Mers el Kebir. Its crew and FDR found the weather quite cool but clear and bright - special “Roosevelt weather.” Before his arrival, the weather had been anything but good. FDR left the Iowa in a motor whaleboat and proceeded to the conferences.

Moo ha ha Jammie!

I think I beat you to something here finally!

Iraqi Courts: Ten Soldiers of Heaven Must Die

Last week in Iraq, a plane was shot at with RPGs while carrying three senators. A week later, our President is sitting on a tarmac in Iraq.

KKKos kiddies and the lefty tribbles at the Lisa Douglas website beat their Che chests about their bravery protesting the war, while smoking some dope or drinking a latte at Starbucks playing with the Wifi.