He's like a cold sore...just keeps coming back

Gone but not forgotten.

Dead or not...I think an attack is coming...Homeland security expected this summer.

Ain't OBL in Austrailia?

Could you please be a little more precise on your estimates of how sure you are?

{O,o} Ack! Plblphndpltp!

re: #5 LSD

Naw - he has a super secret base on the Moon and plans to throw rocks at the U.S. from up there.

{O,o}

Osama(pigs be upon him) is worm food.

Yup, hanging with Elvis and General Franco .

He's living the high life in Iran. Why would he want to get back in the public spotlight. He's got kids to raise and hatred to teach.

DEAD, DEAD,DEAD, DEAD,...channeling Mandy

re: #4 storagemanager

From the last thread:

But there is an awful lot to be said with regards to 'the legend of OBL'. If he is never reported as dead or captured, then his cronies can later claim that he was whisked off to heaven on that winged half-man half-horse (half-pig?) thing. Being regarded as immortal, or as favored by big mo, or even as a prophet himself would go along way to furthering his message.

France: Anti-terror forces on 'war-footing' Paris, 6 Sept. (AKI) - France's anti-terrorism forces are on a "total war-footing", following the thwarting in Germany of an alleged al-Qaeda plot this week, a senior French official said

[Link: www.adnkronos.com...]

re: #4 storagemanager

Lest we forget - Saint RR gave the Democrats the impression he was just a dumb old actor. He was, instead, very well read and quite intelligent.

Now, I have a problem with giving Chertoff credit for being able to find his butt with toilet paper. But just maybe DHS had a notion 9/11 is a magic date for the Jihadis.

{^_-}

re: #13 YourTaxDollarsAtWork

re: #4 storagemanager

From the last thread:

But there is an awful lot to be said with regards to 'the legend of OBL'. If he is never reported as dead or captured, then his cronies can later claim that he was whisked off to heaven on that winged half-man half-horse (half-pig?) thing. Being regarded as immortal, or as favored by big mo, or even as a prophet himself would go along way to furthering his message.

You have a point.

Hope you're right Charles, but him getting all mouthy about 3 years ago in support of JFKerry cost me a bottle of scotch...

If I was president or better yet president and dictator for life(Idi Amin) have them find his head and put in on the White House fence.

re: #16 storagemanager

And honestly, I hope we never find his body. How many mis-informed assclowns here in the States would jump for joy because they think the war on terror died with him.

So, Charles, what inspires the 2.67% doubt?

Site Institute link down?

re: #17 song_and_dance_man

No it means they can only drink 17 hours a day.

TEHRAN -- Iran Thursday accused the United States of supporting separatist rebel groups in its border regions to carry out acts of sabotage, including blowing up oil pipelines.

Iran's top national security official Ali Larijani said that Washington was backing groups like Pejak, a Kurdish separatist group linked to Turkey's outlawed Kurdistan Workers' Party that has carried out a spate of attacks in northwestern Iran.

"The United States has become so weak that it is trying to strengthen groups like Pejak and other groups to carry out actions like blowing up oil pipelines in Iran," the official news agency IRNA quoted Larijani as saying.

[Link: www.metimes.com...]

re: #16 storagemanager

Regarding pigs. The Mohammedans seem to be very very allergic to any trace of "pigness." They are worried about pig molecumes in the dust from pet food factories.

Now porcine critters have been around for very literally millions of years. That means that in each breath of air we breath there is probably a collection of atoms or even molecules that have acquired the attribute of "pig-ness" in the last few million years.

Thus there is absolutely no hope for any Mohammedan receiving his or her trip to paradise. They are all quite thoroughly contaminated by things that have been through pigs.

Poof.
{^_-}

re: #20 YourTaxDollarsAtWork

re: #16 storagemanager

And honestly, I hope we never find his body. How many mis-informed assclowns here in the States would jump for joy because they think the war on terror died with him.

That is a scary thought.

re: #17 song_and_dance_man

re: #14 storagemanager

France's anti-terrorism forces are on a "total war-footing"...

Is that code for retreat?

I'm willing to see how they do with Sarkozy at the helm before I start slinging jokes about that again.

There's an audio preview Here.

There's a lot of added reverb and the Osama part consists of 2-3 short phrases looped. The rest is just explosions and singing about Osama. Visually, I expect it to look like Max Headroom from the 80's.

Ole' bin's probably enjoying his 72 rasins, but if he's still around..I've got a message for him...Hey bin..F*k you A**hole!

It was to be a busy summer. al-Qaeda & Usama bin Laden are to whack the USA again. Iran is to nuke Israel. The USA is to take out the Iranian military. The "Surge" will fail. Fred will announce (maybe). And this is to be the busiest hurricane season yet because of global warming. The Gloom & Doom brigade has had a busy year for predictions.

At least Fred announced. ;-)>

re: #13 YourTaxDollarsAtWork

Yes, I find it intereresting that they love martyrdom so much but they still need to keep the Osama myth alive.

re: #9 mbruce

Yup, hanging with Elvis and General Franco .

Y EL COMANDANTE FIDEL CASTRO y RUZ Y QUIZAS EL HERMANO SUYO RAUL !

-S-

re: #31 Outrider

At least Fred announced. ;-)>

But he did it after Labor Day, not really Summer anymore.

I remain 97.33% convinced that bin Laden’s been dead for a long time.

My personal Osama-is-dead-o-meter is pegged at about 84.62% right now. I've posted on here and on my blog that we should challenge Zawahiri to prove that he's alive, so maybe they've listened to me and we'll actually see something new and in the context of more recent events. I kinda doubt it though.

re: #31 Outrider

It was to be a busy summer. al-Qaeda & Usama bin Laden are to whack the USA again. Iran is to nuke Israel. The USA is to take out the Iranian military. The "Surge" will fail. Fred will announce (maybe). And this is to be the busiest hurricane season yet because of global warming. The Gloom & Doom brigade has had a busy year for predictions.

At least Fred announced. ;-)>

Denmark and Germany were almost hit...North Korea was standing side by side with Iran yesterday...am I missing something...are you saying the world is now at peace?

Here's a screencap of the SITE Institute post.

re: #31 Outrider

It was to be a busy summer. al-Qaeda & Usama bin Laden are to whack the USA again. Iran is to nuke Israel. The USA is to take out the Iranian military. The "Surge" will fail. Fred will announce (maybe). And this is to be the busiest hurricane season yet because of global warming. The Gloom & Doom brigade has had a busy year for predictions.

At least Fred announced. ;-)>

And there was to be another full-scale war between Israel and Hezbollah.

re: #32 Killgore Trout

In their eyes, I don't think dieing of a failed liver affords you the same glory as blowing your self up in a crowd of school children. Mo and his followers have always struck me as the type to ask "But what have you done for me lately?".

re: #34 CyanSnowHawk

But he did it after Labor Day, not really Summer anymore.

True. But, I guess he was just a traditionalist that announced when historically it has always been done.

However; all of this stuff is what the Gloom & Doomers were telling us was to happen this summer.

Bin Laden was a media junkie who released a video every month after 9/11 up until Dec 2001. After we did the massive bombing of Tora Bora, not a verified word has been heard from him since. We are talking almost 6 years now. Yes, he is dead.

Want his body? Go figure out how to dig out the caves on steep slopes of Tora Bora at 8-10 thousand feet high.

If this just yet another dated video of him droning on about how furious he was when he failed to make the cheerleeding sqaud in high school, then it's probably safe to assume he's either dead or dying (Allah willing).

re: #38 neocon hippie

re: #31 Outrider

It was to be a busy summer. al-Qaeda & Usama bin Laden are to whack the USA again. Iran is to nuke Israel. The USA is to take out the Iranian military. The "Surge" will fail. Fred will announce (maybe). And this is to be the busiest hurricane season yet because of global warming. The Gloom & Doom brigade has had a busy year for predictions.

At least Fred announced. ;-)>

And there was to be another full-scale war between Israel and Hezbollah.

Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki had a telephone contact with his Syrian counterpart Walid Al-Moallem Thursday evening following the blatant violation of the Syrian airspace by the Zionist military planes.

The Iranian official called the Zionist act a useless effort to galvanize the defeated Zionist army facing the heroic resistance of the Lebanese nation.

Pointing to futility of such acts in preventing the declining regime of the Zionist usurpers, Mottaki underscored the strong bonds of friendship and cooperation between the Iranian and Syrian nations and governments.

The Syrian foreign minister thanked Iran's strong support for Syria and said his country is ready to counter any aggressive action by the Zionist regime.

[Link: www2.irna.com...]

re: #38 neocon hippie

Lookaddit this way - In the case of the DPRK - that dog will be pulled in or let out on a leash MADE IN CHINA!

-S-

re: #41 Outrider

So basically, they failed on all counts.

re: #36 storagemanager

are you saying the world is now at peace?

No, but I just save a ton of money on my car insurance.

re: #35 ChenZhen

Aren't you going to question the timing?

re: #36 storagemanager

Denmark and Germany were almost hit...North Korea was standing side by side with Iran yesterday...am I missing something...are you saying the world is now at peace

?
-sigh- Not likely. Just a snarky comment on some of my favorite people; the gloom and doom brigade.

Love lies bleeding in our hands...sorry to Elton.

The daisies above Osama's box
Have tilted to one side
Everything about this louse
Is going to burn and die

Oh it doesn't seem six years ago
Around this special day
You said I'm sorry brothers
If I don't get out of this place
I won't see another day

Your worthless ass lies bleeding from our hands
Oh it thrills me to think of you with Mohammad
Now we're playing rock and roll with your adoring fans
Didn't know if the bars could hold you
So we split your head
Your ass lies bleeding from our hands

I wonder if those bombs
Left some scars on you
Like all the burning hoops of fire
Yasser's wackos jump through

You're a shitbird on hell's line
I hope you're happy now
And when Mo's through making you his little girl
We'll rip you a new one again somehow

Your ass lies bleeding from our hands da da da, da da da da, da da da da,...

re: #35 ChenZhen

I've posted on here and on my blog that we should challenge Zawahiri to prove that he's alive, so maybe they've listened to me and we'll actually see something new and in the context of more recent events.

ChenZhens Challenge! So you're the cause of all that islamist 'chatter' on the internets!
My voodoo meter says he's sick but alive.

re: #44 storagemanager

"store" -

IOW Iran to Syria - All Y'all are on YOUR OWN!

-S-

re: #46 CyanSnowHawk

re: #41 Outrider

So basically, they failed on all counts.

"They only have to get right one time" President Bush.

If not dead he smells really really bad.

Charles, I've been saying that he was dead for over a year now. Consider this, you are a young marine chasing his ass all over Tora Bora and finally find him. After transversing the most difficult terrain hunting this mass-murderer do you read him his rights or let your weapon speak for you? Ask yourself just who gains by releasing the news that a frustrated grunt put him out of our misery, Al-Q, the US or Bush? I suspect that GWB would be the only one that would gain. That gain would be for political purposes only, something I guess that GWB would dismiss out of hand. Keeping Bin Laden alive serves the purpose of Al-Q and the US. Just envision the outcry in this country of capturing him and sending him to Gitmo. The Islamofacists would make him into a martyr. The ACLU would have a field day.

The prospect of Bin Laden still breathing gives the US a target to pursue ( a need to appease the lefties ) and Islamofacists a leader for their cause. Everyone but GWB wins. JMHO.

For someone that put out more videos than Paris Hilton, his visual absence is all you need to know.

And the other 2.67% of me says he's in Michigan, hanging out with Elvis at a K-Mart.

The world wide caliphate needs its leader. If OBL was alive, he would have to be there, here, up, down, especially since Al-Q is getting its butt kicked, to rally the faithful. The No. 2s tried to run their own tapes, demonstrating they were in charge - passing of the mantle - without overtly stating it, (not daring to admit they hadn't seen or heard from OBL either, since forerever), but they didn't have "it." Proof they didn't have "it" was that they weren't able to rally much of anyone, and to add insult to injury, or injury to insult, they soon afterwards ended up on the dust heap of history. "It" being the charismatic leadership thangy. That's actually correct nomenclature for a specific leadership "type." Leading by force of personality (which is why it's often used for preachers who end up with a church focused on THEM not God.)
OBL's role in the afterlife hereandnow is to provide an excuse for Democrats to sniff, "We should be diverting all our troops to hunting down OBL." (For the next two hundred years) and as yrtax$@work said up there, good positioning for the eternally whisked away designation- a neo-Enoch or neo-Elijah (It'll make a few readers gack, but they are the competition to beat, aren't they?)

re: #9 mbruce
I would think that both Elvis and the Generalissimo, despite their flaws, deserve a better place to spend eternity than with scum like OBL.

re: #34 CyanSnowHawk

But he did it after Labor Day, not really Summer anymore.

It's not like wearing white after Labor Day, you know. It's still summer here for a few more weeks.

Osama:
Go clean yourself up. You dead.

/Chris_Tucker

I agree and raise your 97.33% to 97.4%

Love the part about the beard being "dyed". More like he "died" and they have to explain the old photo...

Unless he is Dorian Grey...!

re: #33 Dr. Shalit
Babalu Blog can't find hide nor hair of Raul. And to think everyone was focused on Fidel ... have we all been had?
Maybe the regime is working on animatronic versions of the two?

Daid. No mas aqui. Plant food. Mulch. Worm food. Mort.

re: #67 buzzsawmonkey

Pining for the dunes?

lol

re: #64 wanumba

My conspiracy theory entry for the day is that Chavez had Raul whacked, and is now poised to be the dictator of two socialist shit holes nations.

The SITE Institute, which monitors extremist Web sites, reports that an "image of bin Laden contained in the banner found on jihadist forums is reminiscent of his last video appearance in 2004, but his beard is now completely black, as it was previously streaked with grey." (The Web site appears to have just been hit with too much traffic.)

Just For Men? Is that allowed?

re: #62 Macker

Osama:
Go clean yourself up. You dead.

Sounds like they took your advice!

re: #60 song_and_dance_man
but his beard is now completely black, as it was previously streaked with grey."

Strong 6.6 Earthquake Rocks Taiwan
Thursday, September 06, 2007

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

OBL The Jihadi Elvis.

MOE +/- 4%

Test NoMoe, 99c/vote

Text

I'm close, at 95.89% certainty...

re: #60 song_and_dance_man

as it was previously streaked with grey

It wasn't grey, it was dried camel semen...

re: #77 buzzsawmonkey

But if he's dead, I must ask you
What will the "find-Osama!" Democrats do?

FIND OBAMA! America's only hope is his girls, playing on the WH lawn.

re: #78 YourTaxDollarsAtWork

Spunky

The report states that Osama plans to address the American People. The last time he addressed the American people was before the 2004 elections, so I suspect they will release the outtakes from that video.

Obama Lies A-Moldering In The Grave
'Cause there's so many that he tried to enslave

Obama Lies A-Moldering In The Grave
Blown to bits and pieces down there in that cave

re: #77 buzzsawmonkey

Eggsactly! See my post @ 56 here!

Okay, that link didn't work out like I planned, just scroll up to #56.

The yahoo reuters article says..

The Web site carried a still photograph apparently from the video which showed bin Laden seemingly aged compared to available pictures.

They show the picture, too..

re: #69 YourTaxDollarsAtWork

re: #64 wanumba
My conspiracy theory entry for the day is that Chavez had Raul whacked, and is now poised to be the dictator of two socialist shit holes nations.

At their ages, and physical sturdiness, the Castro bros could have died in each other's arms with that mafia kiss.
But, the Chavez thang ... hmmm. Always thought it was odd how he kept jetting back and forth. Didn't make sense, why would a president of a nation richer than the other keep showing up at the bedside of the lessor of the two? Unless, Chavez was really there to incorporate Cuba into his sphere? Literally, as in absorb.
If this is so, forget about all those Cuban baseball players poised to go Major League, USA. Cuba become a state of Venezuela? Go from one tyrant to another?
Getting that sick feeling we've been duped, and shouldn't have been, big time.

re: #61 ec marm

re: #34 CyanSnowHawk

But he did it after Labor Day, not really Summer anymore.

It's not like wearing white after Labor Day, you know. It's still summer here for a few more weeks.

I live in San Diego, it's Summer from March to October, but my comment fit the idea that the Doom and Gloom squad missed with every single prediction, and that required ending Summer at Labor Day.

I look at Eric Rudolph and how he eluded authorities for three years with little help from anyone. Considering the amount of money being thrown at Al Quaada by rich wahaabanist Saudis. OBL probably lives in a magnificently appointed German designed and French built state of the art bunker with satellite TV and Internet access. Either that or he lives in a cave and smells like a goat! take your pick.

Just as the democrats fear, on his last day in office, Dubya will hold a "Weekend With Bernie" press conference with a stuffed OBL wearing sun glasses and a hawaiian shirt, and that will be about all she wrote on the war on terror! Probably take him back to Texas, stand him at a Dairy Queen somewhere near Dallas, where the local kids can kidnap him every year as a homecoming prank. Yessir, that's the OBL I know and love.

re: #78 YourTaxDollarsAtWork

eeewww!

Tomorrow is Muslim rage day...everybody ready?

re: #64 wanumba

re: #33 Dr. Shalit
Babalu Blog can't find hide nor hair of Raul. And to think everyone was focused on Fidel ... have we all been had?
Maybe the regime is working on animatronic versions of the two?

Wanumba -

They would be AND the US would allow it as a "Non-Strategic" Purchase. Problem is - on this like everything else they buy from the US -
they would have to PAY CASH, 1.8 Billion 1959 Dollars in expropriation have not as yet been settled, as the Chinese have done. Bottom line,
Disney could not legally extend credit for the audioanimatronics even if they wanted to. The remainder of "the Embargo"/"el bloqueo" is as follows 1. Critical Military or Dual Use Technology. 2. PAY CASH. Why do you think our Agribusiness giants want to "end the embargo" - for them there is NO EMBARGO except that the US TAXPAYER will not under current law underwrite the next CUBAN DEFAULT. Cuba has been cut off as of this summer by the European Major Banks (a/k/a SWISS). They are a BAD BET under the current regime and will be so until REGIME CHANGE. After that, I refer you to the blog of Don Tomas Estrada Palma, great grandson of the first elected President of the Republic of Cuba, he happens to work for, of all places, in a "Light-Blue" Collar job for the Washington Post!

-S-

re: #90 wanumba

I haven't been paying much attention to Cuba lately, but I'll check with the intel weenies I roll with this weekend, and see what they've heard. Wouldn't that be something though? Chavez installs himself as el presidente para la vida in order to 'protect' the cuban people from Bush and America.

It may explain things that this is the last fully-verified photograph of osama.

Captain Kirk: Bones! See to that man!

Medical Officer McCoy: Dammit, Jim, I'm a doctor, not a doc... um, OK...

[examines patient, pulls sheet up over his head]

Medical Officer McCoy: He's dead, Jim.

---

AND there you have it, folks! All she wrote.

OBL reminds me of a non-stop "Weekend at Bernie's" where they just prop up OBL and some puppeteer moves his lips to look like he's alive and kickin'.

re: #39 buzzsawmonkey

Yes, but I've also read C.S. Lewis' "That Hideous Strength". Seems more apropos to me. You know, N.I.C.E., and 'The Head' and all.

re: #95 storagemanager Drive by post - Storagemanager - prayers still going up for your mom and for you and yours.

re: #91 CyanSnowHawk

Its nice to see another SD Lizard in the mix. Sorry if my disclosure of OBL's extra-curricular activities troubles you :)

He was brain dead to start with; given the nature of the Soddies ease with finding money, without having any talents. Just living on the world's oil reserves.

And, then?

Well, FDR catered to these jerks.

Nobody ever set them down and told them that the world at large wouldn't be their gambling casino.

Made worse when OPEC came along; and we didn't bomb those freaks back to wherever. What? Well, we were busy wasting time, lives and resources, in Vietnam. For NO valid reason.

In this mix, this particular lunatic figured out how to "attack" us.

As to his next "video tape," on par with Castro. WHere these dudes are dead. I mean, really dead.

But it's a brand name, now.

He's dead.

re: #89 dwntmpo

"dtp"

To channel the NY Daily News in 1976 - To: UBL - DROP DEAD! - Dr. Shalit.

re: #35 ChenZhen

I'm sure that they've listened to you, an extinguished blog pimping backbter. How could they not?

I'm with Charles on this one only I'm thinkin' more like 99 44/100% sure.
Osama bin History

re: #40 YourTaxDollarsAtWorkUh, I thought he'd a died from wounds inflicted by us or a failed kidney's, not liver?

re: #111 realwest

Ahh, good point.

re: #104 YourTaxDollarsAtWork

It was just unexpected. Not really a stranger to the gutter, I have internet access after all. ;)

re: #96 Dr. Shalit

re: #97 YourTaxDollarsAtWork
Earlier this year, there was Castro or Chavez talk about passing the mantle to Chavez (think it was Chavez). We all looked at it as figurative, but maybe Chavez was hinting a genuine take over of Cuba.
Is there ANY credible alternative in Cuba, even amongst the regime itself? or opposition to stop Chavez? There is no succession in Cuba apart from Fidel/Raul is there? That's a weak State without leadership, ripe for the picking by anyone bold enough to pluck it. Chavez is kissing up to Ahmedinejad, who even bothered himself to hustle over to VEnezuela (and with what else in his bags?) and Cuba is within easy missle strike to the USA. As we all learned forty years ago. So, even with crapo several years old tech, a Cuban launchpad would be valuable to the Iranians and Venezuela.
Maybe that's why no announcement has been made about Castro's death - Chavez is going to time it to suit his dramatic and politcal needs - a full COUP d' ETAT?

HEADLINE: "...in a cave somewhere in Jihadistan..."

OSAMA CHOKES ON PORK RINDS AND BRISKET
OBL Found Dead on Floor of Cave, Wearing a Thong and Pr0n Playing

re: #113 CyanSnowHawk

LOL.

Not to intrude on anomity, but what company do you work for?

I remain 97.33% convinced that bin Laden’s been dead for a long time.

Wow! That means, our Lizard Master thinks, there is still a 2.67% chance of getting to kill him, all over again!

Odds aren't that good ...but here's hoping, that if he isn't satan's bitch by now, he soon will be...along with all his buddies.
ROPMA!

re: #35 ChenZhen

What? Is this Zawahiri dude the new HeadBanger? They're both scum. and the reason for untold numbers of dead for no reason, accept to inflate their already bloating carcasses. That's accepting of course that either of them is still sucking up air that could be better spent. Don't waste your time on the percentages.

Osama reminds me of that herpes commercial - every once in awhile, you get an outbreak of Osama, and there is plenty of medicine to get rid of the oozing pustule that is Osama and his fellow goat-fornicators.

re: #19 pingjockey

I had a similar thought years back, but it involved a pike & the lobby of whatever building would be erected at the old WTC site. Oh, and a parade, gotta have the parade.

re: #114 wanumba

If the beard and raul are both out of the way, we might be able to use a massive cold cash inject as well as some needed additions to Gitmo to counter Chavez. Unlike muslims, a hearts-and-minds campaign would produce results with the cuban people.

re: #114 wanumba With all due respect to you, I think Chavez would be in charge of Cuba for about 48 hours and then Cuba and Venezuela would both be real democracies - or at least we see that they had a chance to actually become democracies.
Don't have the links handy, but IIRC, JFK and every president since (except possibly Carter and Clinton) has said that the US has no quarrel with the people of Cuba.
Chavez taking over in Cuba would certainly give us reason to kick his ass there and in Venezuela, especially given his oft repeated mantra about the US being Satan (a line which I think he copped from Dinnerjacket, but I'm not sure). And, as has been pointed out, Cuba is too close to the US for us to allow anyone else to take over who would be hostile to the US.
C'mon Hugo baby, make our day!

I certainly have thought he is dead. But this is troubling to me. Why would Al Qaeda set themselves up for a bust like this? I mean, they have promised a video and have already released still photos of bin ladenscum from that video.

If it is proven by experts that the bin Ladenscum in the video and in the stills is:

a) a fake
b) old footage
c) it doesn't even come to pass

Why would they open themselves up to that lie? Why not just let it keep riding? Nothing much bothers Al Qaeda but they don't like to look foolish.

I think two things support he may be alive:

1. They are announcing this video
2. They have called in a TON of their fighters from Afghanistan and other areas back into NW Pakistan - I feel that is in preparation of either a move of bin Ladenscum or an attempt to establish permanent residence there.

Oh and I'm more optimistic than Charles and am willing to go to 100% dead for Osama.
That or he's living in Dearborn, which would be the same thing.

re: #123 ornery elephant

Why would Al Qaeda set themselves up for a bust like this?

You have to remember, as Mr. Crispy in Glasgow demonstrated, even their brain surgeons just aren't that bright.

You sure that's not 97.34% The difference could be crucial.

re: #93 itellu3times
That seems like an interesting idea for a Photoshop.

re: #123 ornery elephant Geez, ya need a scorecard here - just a week or so before Labor Day the CIA or someone announced that all the Al-Q training camps in NW Pakistan had mysteriously gone empty and wondered where they'd gone.
I'd guessed Tora Bora and since then every day there have been reports of Coalition forces literally killing Taliban and Al-Q forces by the truckload in...Tora Bora.

re: #125 YourTaxDollarsAtWork

That's Dr. Crispy to you...

re: #129 Cap'n DOC ROFLMAO!

re: #120 Slumbering Behemoth
Damn straight, The Marine Band playing Sousa marches. That'd get the seething going real good. Wait for after fridays ululations in the mosques and viola! Target rich environment for Tomahawk cruise missles.

re: #130 realwest

I've been out done again... Oh well. Kick off is in an hour or so, so I need to get home and get properly inebriated. Good night Lizards.

OBL has left the building

Charles,

Ivory soap's got ya beat by 2 & 11/100 %

The video is surely a fake, unless there’s a half-gross of virgins and a handful of goats to be seen lurking in the background.

Charles:
Just so you know, at the link:
The document you requested doesn't exist.

They're just posturing right before the anniversary of September 11. The scumbag is dead now lets get on with killing the rest of them.

Osama says everyone prefers a strong horse to a weak horse.

And I say we prefer a dead horse so we can keep beating it.

'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This jihadi is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e
rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the podium 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile! THIS IS AN EX-JIHADI!

re: #137 NoSubmission

Not dead, and I have irrefutable proof!

Ooooh, he's going to produce a video!

Big fecking deal.

I'm 100% certain he's dead, and been dead for a few years now. That man knew the power of propaganda. Were he alive he'd have been distributing videos on a regular basis, and the content would leave absolutely no doubt that he was not only alive, but very much in the loop. Where's the mocking? Where's the threats? Where's the rally cries?

He's been a rotten corpse for years. He now burns in hell with the FALSE Prophet Mohamed (pigs piss upon him).

I bet he mentions Jimmy Carter.

Bin Laden has been living in Bush's basement for years eating pretzels and watching re-runs of the Mary Tyler More show.

hi, just came back from vacation and saw that new picture of OBL.Is it just me or does he actually look like a corpse?Sorry if others have said this didn't have a chance to read all.In my opinion even if he is alive, it occurs to me that any "great leader" such as he shouldn't be hiding where ever and letting old Zahiri or whoever do his talking.What a creepy coward. Come out Mr. Jihad. You and the rest of your ilk are craven cowards wearing Burkas to escape and hiding behind women and children.

SITE was down for a while today - it looked like they had a serious crash of some sort what with the 403 Not Authorized errors.

Now, SITE is back up and I don't see the original story or mention of it anywhere on their site. I wonder what gives.

Hmmm.

So they will digitize his mouth movements over a long ago photo – airbrush his beard -- The wonders of technology.

re: #5 LSD

I thought he was in Detroit.

Osama Bin Laden is alive but perhaps not well.

re: #122 realwest

re: #114 wanumba .
Chavez taking over in Cuba would certainly give us reason to kick his ass there and in Venezuela, especially given his oft repeated mantra about the US being Satan (a line which I think he copped from Dinnerjacket, but I'm not sure). And, as has been pointed out, Cuba is too close to the US for us to allow anyone else to take over who would be hostile to the US.
C'mon Hugo baby, make our day!

I do like that scenario, oh yes!
Of course, that's potentially why CHavez isn't saying anything (if we carry on with this possible scenario). He shows up with a rewritten Cuban Constitution that declares that Cuba reverts via some peculiar mechanism to Venezuela and then the UN toady councils chime in on cue and Cindy Sheehan goes running to Nancy Pelosi to proclaim it's the desire of the Cuban people to be overlorded ... rather nurtured ... by the benevolent Venezuala supreme leader... hand wringing in the Left ... NYT, Michael Moore, all of Hollywood all media stops out to dogpile on the administration - a straightforward situation becomes complicated and dangerous. Not to mention the alliances and mutual CYA treaties that are being secretly signed, 'cause Chavez by himself can't hold Cuba, but he has a better chance if he has other means of threatening/blackmailing the USA. Example: You try this and we'll bomb Israel. Didn't that very threat come up this week regarding something else?
Just don't like the thought of the manuverings that go with such a move.

Back to OBL, didja see the photos?
There is something screwy with the "look." The beard is very odd. It's not just the single tone, but the rounded "cut" - it looks like it was shortened and shaped - so there's a very neat shadow under it - I call old photo, photoshopped and modified. They have been noticing that people are looking for that "modern look" so they gave his image a beard trim.
Tell me, how many people who've been on the lam for more than half a decade in extreme conditions have exactly the same body fat and facial fat as they did years ago? Especially when said person was already in his fifties. Aging, folks! Even a person who's maintained the same weight will have a more angular facial look going into their sixties. Can't fight gravity or time. Bin Laden has not aged. Odd, ain't it?
Give it a day or two with the image tech people and we'll have the low-down.

OB1 is dead.

Reincarnated as Hugo Chavez.

Or Cindy Sheehan.

/take your pick

Bin There, Bin Dead.
/point final.

re: #56 GeeWiz

Charles, I've been saying that he was dead for over a year now. Consider this, you are a young marine chasing his ass all over Tora Bora and finally find him. After transversing the most difficult terrain hunting this mass-murderer do you read him his rights or let your weapon speak for you? Ask yourself just who gains by releasing the news that a frustrated grunt put him out of our misery, Al-Q, the US or Bush? I suspect that GWB would be the only one that would gain. That gain would be for political purposes only, something I guess that GWB would dismiss out of hand. Keeping Bin Laden alive serves the purpose of Al-Q and the US. Just envision the outcry in this country of capturing him and sending him to Gitmo. The Islamofacists would make him into a martyr. The ACLU would have a field day.

The prospect of Bin Laden still breathing gives the US a target to pursue ( a need to appease the lefties ) and Islamofacists a leader for their cause. Everyone but GWB wins. JMHO.

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I can see that. I've often wondered if that scenerio actually happened.

re: #142 R.A.D. Dad

I'm 100% certain he's dead, and been dead for a few years now. That man knew the power of propaganda. Were he alive he'd have been distributing videos on a regular basis, and the content would leave absolutely no doubt that he was not only alive, but very much in the loop. Where's the mocking? Where's the threats? Where's the rally cries?

He's been a rotten corpse for years. He now burns in hell with the FALSE Prophet Mohamed (pigs piss upon him).

And let's hope may pitch forks are poking his arse :) .

/agree

I think that bin Laden has bin dead for a while now.

I do wonder if this video is a signal to terrorists to carry out attacks against the West, including the U.S. I'm getting the sense that the Jihadists are getting ready to do something.

He's pushing up the daisies and each new 'fake' (but accurate) video only convinces me more.

If this has already been noted, forgive me. But the current photo appears to come from 2001. All the talk about the beard being dyed seems so silly. Don't know how to link the current Washing Post article with this old article.

[Link: www.forbes.com...]

re: #136 ec marm

Charles:
Just so you know, at the link:
The document you requested doesn't exist.

Yep doesn't exist.

This shows the pics though:

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Castro is dead but the Cuban Elite are afraid to announce it since their lifestyle would change instantly to leaving the island.

Same with OBL, Muslims are pretending he is alive so their fantasy doesn't end.

I think that OBL is dead, but only recently.

Too bad.

I was really looking forward to seeing if OBL behaved in a manly way when captured, more like Saddam than Che. Saddam, unlike Che, at least had the good grace to not surrender while still carrying a fully loaded and actually unfired pistol on his person.

Further, I wonder under what conditions OBL lived.

Was he indeed mostly clean and only slightly musty, as the “intellectual” effete are wont (sniff your English/Philosophy/Poly Sci/activist professor if you need proof), or did the 70 sanitary procedures, as recently preached by some fool cleric in Egypt (who has the body shape and stamina of a well-fed pig, and doubtless smells like an unwashed one) fail him?

But OBL seems to have learned form Che, send others to do the fighting; take credit for successes and bury the rest. Did OBL then, like Che, take pride in his ability go for periods without washing?

The world may never know.

As a side note: This post at The Jawa Report discusses jihadi website talking about an “invasion of Manhattan” and displays a picture with "11/9" on it.

I realize that by 11/9 they are using the European representation for 11 September

But 11/9 in the US means 09 November (and maybe the site really means 09 November), and the website does show “11/9”.

Is 09 November related to any lunar event or lines up with any historical Muslim event?

What about Jewish holidays?

Is any event in NYC scheduled for 09 November, or any day close (Veteran’s Day?) ? What about anywhere else in the US, Britain or Europe?

It seems an improbable indicator, but 9/11, on 9/10 and before, was not unusual.

Charles: I am a big fan, but I have a different view. If OBL were dead, he would have a martyrology from here to Pluto on the Internet and in Arabic documents. Too many people would know for a fact he was dead, and that could never stay secret...just like most of their bombing plans are stymied because of snitches and fools.

I hear he's dyed his beard.

I agree with you Charles. I have thought that Bin Hidin' has Bin Dead for some time now. That funeral held out in the open by the Taliban leaders back in Sept. 2006 is a good indication that someone important had died.

So, is Zawahiri the "Big Kahuna" now? If so, I think he's doing a bad job convincing people that ole' Osama is still alive and kickin... Using old video footage is a dead (pardon the pun?) give-away, too!

#63 yesandno 9/06/07 3:45:33 pm reply quote report

I agree and raise your 97.33% to 97.4%

Love the part about the beard being "dyed". More like he "died" and they have to explain the old photo...

Unless he is Dorian Grey...!

Or Dracula, completely sated with the blood of infidels.

re: #1 Outrider

More like a hemorrhoid.

In March of this year, Bin Laden was spotted at the anti-war rally in DC with Cindy Sheehan.

If the "new" video turns out to be another out of date put-on, I plan to break out a bottle of something special. One more rehashed release means he is probably dead. Pork ribs in his honor!

If Bin Laden is alive, and the footage is new, then Bin Laden dyed his beard. Therefore he should be put to death under Sharia law, right?

I hope that POS terrorist hasBin Laden is dead. But I won't rest easy until his head is mounted over a white house fireplace.

I believe that this loon is dead. But dead or alive he should be scorned.
The left however will take this as a n opportunity to bash Bush.

Looking at the the still picture of obama Osama, it reminds me of the corpse from "Weekend at Bernie's"
Lol..Bernie may be dead, but he's still the life of the party

They should add an echo or reverb to his voice, so it will sound like it's coming from the grave...

(insert creepy organ music)

Is it possible OBL is lurking around in some airport men's room in the sky, looking for Arafat?

From ABC: "Intelligence sources tell ABC News they believe the expected video message from Osama bin Laden is authentic, recently produced and evidence the al Qaeda leader is still alive."

How can someone believe it's authentic if all they know is it's "expected"?

Good Morning America Video: Bin Laden Alive?
The jihadist Web site announced the tape with a banner, showing a still picture of bin Laden, now 50 years old, looking fit with a full beard of dark black hair, no gray at all.

Is this a love-in? Looking fit? These guys go to college to learn how to write this stuff. Reminds me of Chris Matthews when Billary reappeared after heart surgery.

Yes indeed.
He's Dead, Jim!
Charles,
You are the only other relatively sane individual besides myself who will bet dollars to donuts that Osama the Ooze is dead.

I believe his putrefied corpse is lying under several millions of tons of rock at Tora Bora where we smooshed him.
I also believe that the first tapes that came out after that were made by the CIA or some actual Intelligence Agency to test the waters to see if he was really dead.
And the reason that it's never been announced is that we cannot prove it.
I also believe that the tapes made since then are alternatively made by us or them to keep the myth alive.
We make the tapes to slant OOzama's rhetoric so that he sounds crazy and threatens his potential allies.
They make the tapes just in order to "keep hope alive."

That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

I agree with you C.
'Old Bin Laden's a molderin' in the grave.'

And I think the best way to prove it is for our government to just make a public declaration of it. "We say he's dead."

Then I think those guys would turn themselves inside out to prove that he was alive by letting something out that was convincing. And if OBL WAS alive (which I doubt) we could go get him!

It's a win win.

They can't stand talk that contradicts what they think. It's the one tactic that our leaders have not fully understood in my opinion. We should talk big. All the time. It's a cultural thing they expect. And when we don't do it, they think we are weak.

WHy now? Why is there a Bin Laden tape now?
Think Rushbo is on to it.
This is in advance of General P's report on the war progress (tho' I perfer the more accurate: Iraq THEATRE of the WAR).
The Left needs Bin LAden so they can scream, "Well, looky-here! You haven't acomplished anything. Bin Laden is still running around."
That's their argument, "We should be hunting down Osama, not battling in Iraq."
So, it's part of the scheming to discredit the report - first it was General P is a Bush lackey, this week, it's ooouuuH Bin Laden hasn't been captured... Next week's angle ...? I don't have the wacked-out enough mind to anticipate what they'll cook up next.
Just one bright spot, ya can photo-shop him all ya want, trim that beard, draw in that top button better, strengthen line of the shirt placket, but it ain't gonna fix the fact that he's dead.
The Unholy Alliance of the Left and the Islamofascists. T.U.A.L.I.

In the tape, why are his hands so brown?
He looks like he has monkey's paws.

Okay, here's scoop. What you see is just a new Muppet called Osama bin Loopie.

I have always like the idea that he is in a small brig, in the bilges of a USN carriers task force supply ship. Someone does however, read and reply to his emails.

Stop Osama from talking. Howard Dean wants him for the debates.