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The Dreaded Roundabout Dogs of Blasphemy

Fri, Sep 7, 2007 at 5:35:04 pm PDT

In Sweden, a sculpture by artist Lars Vilks (whose roundabout dogs of blasphemy have caused the latest round of seething in the Islamic world) was torched.

And Swedish police say there are “a lot of people on the internet” talking about murdering Vilks. Indeterminate people, from a broad strata of diverse origins, with no connections to terrorism.

A sculpture created by the artist at the centre of the Muhammad cartoon controversy was set alight in southern Sweden on Thursday night.

Emergency service were alerted to the blaze shortly after midnight. The fire was quickly brought under control but the roundabout was temporarily closed for traffic due to the risk of the structure collapsing.

The wooden ‘roundabout dog’ was constructed by Lars Vilks together with a group of high school students from Trelleborg. When completed in June of this year, the seven-metre canine was erected in the middle of a roundabout on the outskirts of the town. Police said they were classifying the crime as vandalism and did not yet have any supects.

Earlier this year, Sweden was gripped by a ‘roundabout dog’ craze - hastily constructed wooden dogs began appearing in the middle of traffic circles nationwide as an alternative to the often unpopular and costly public artworks commissioned by local councils.

Lars Vilks’ contribution to the guerrilla art movement has been subjected to several arson attempts since the publication in Nerikes Allehanda of a cartoon depicting the Muslim prophet Muhammad as a roundabout dog.

Seemingly unfazed by the furious reactions to his drawings, the controversial artist indicated at one point that he was also considering constructing an actual roundabout dog featuring the founder of Islam.

Earlier this week, a woman in western Sweden was formally charged with having issued the artist with a death threat via e-mail. “The person in question has admitted to us that she sent the e-mail,” said police spokesman Hakan Lund. “What is more worrying is that she stands by her words, explaining that her beliefs and convictions had been desecrated and attacked,” he added.

According to police, the woman - described as a devout Muslim with a family - was not part of any militant networks. She did not say that she would personally kill Lars Vilks but she encouraged others to do so.

“There are a lot of people on the internet expressing this same will and intention,” said Lund.

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1 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:36:07pm
2 Sifty  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:36:56pm

Roundabout dingos ate my baby.

3 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:37:20pm

Hot dog.

4 Sifty  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:38:09pm

The Muz is a broad strata of crazy. They lower the bar for seething weekly.

5 WimbledonWomble  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:38:14pm

Today, roundabout dogs. Tomorrow, the world!

6 Highrise  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:38:58pm
Earlier this week, a woman in western Sweden was formally charged with having issued the artist with a death threat via e-mail.

"What is more worrying is that she stands by her words, explaining that her beliefs and convictions had been desecrated and attacked," he added.

Hopefully it'll be a stiff sentence then. At some point, a message must be sent to HER. Otherwise, we'll have nothing but chaos in the west. She needs to go back to sand town if she wishes to be a DEVOUT muslim and not mix with infidels.

7 Sifty  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:39:00pm

Someone link to Yes's Roundabout, stat!

8 Highrise  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:39:16pm

must

build

more

dogs

9 Thanos  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:39:31pm

We must have the appropriate music for this thread

10 cbinflux  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:39:55pm

And most all of "those people"can be traced, but WILL THEY?!

11 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:40:00pm

Here in Jersey, we only have traffic circle dogs.

12 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:40:01pm
13 pat  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:40:14pm

Religion Of Tolerance, ROT

The Swedes will cower.

14 Cognito  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:40:33pm
Earlier this week, a woman in western Sweden was formally charged with having issued the artist with a death threat via e-mail.

Well, yeah. She's a western Swede.

15 MattMacD  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:40:38pm

Now *these* are hate crimes!
Poor roundabout dogs!

16 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:40:38pm

re: #9 Thanos

Perfect. I had that song in my head.

17 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:40:46pm
18 Thanos  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:40:56pm

Marmots come out...

19 Pro-Bush Canuck  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:41:15pm
20 darkster2400  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:41:16pm

even if they threatened to kill Noam Chomsky it would not make the moonbats wake up.

21 cbinflux  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:41:26pm

re: #13 pat
I'll take that bet. They're doing alright so far.

22 Pope Insouciance IV  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:41:57pm

Cry havoc and let slip the roundabout dogs of war.

23 darkster2400  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:41:59pm

maybe there's a link to Michael Vick....

24 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:42:14pm

I just don't know if I can soldier on.

The world left the US behind

Pompous assclown.

25 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:42:37pm
26 The Other Les  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:44:18pm

Well, standing there is pretty much what a mountain does.

27 karmic_inquisitor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:44:52pm

Art creates terrorism.

Art recruits terrorists.

Let's ban art.

28 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:45:00pm

Behavioral Science Turns to Dogs for Answers

Maybe the dogs can tell us why Muslims are such sniveling babies.

Some cool dog pics at the link, btw.

29 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:45:11pm
Indeterminate people, from a broad strata of diverse origins, with no connections to terrorism.

Indeterminate people Mohammedans, from a broad strata of diverse origins, with no connections to terrorism.

There. I fixed it for you.

30 Paul  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:45:26pm

The Swedes are clueless as to what they're up against, they've offended the perpetually offended. People who see every offense as a justification for killing you. Can a whole nation go into hiding?

31 Sifty  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:45:27pm

re: #12 savage_nation

re: #7 Sifty

Someone link to Yes's Roundabout, stat!

ROUNDABOUT

I want one of their cool outfits with a big ol' Bomb-lehead Mo on it!

Capes built into shirts should come back in style soon.

32 gibsonz  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:45:32pm

Islam,the 13 hundred year plague with no cure in sight.

33 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:46:15pm
34 pat  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:46:28pm

re: #21 cbinflux

re: #13 pat
I'll take that bet. They're doing alright so far.

I am not encouraged given the early appeasement.
[Link: islamineurope.blogspot.com...]

35 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:47:45pm

re: #33 savage_nation

Not me, I don't miss 1970's fashion, yuk!

I drink to forget the 70s....

/though, ironically enough, I really do enjoy That 70s Show...

36 Thanos  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:48:35pm
37 Sifty  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:48:45pm

re: #33 savage_nation

I would just like to be able to wear my Renaissance Faire clothes to work.

38 cbinflux  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:49:06pm

re: #34 pat

You've prematurely gazed at too many green flash sunsets.

/

39 redshirt  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:49:14pm
a woman in western Sweden

Perhaps that should be "Swedens' Restive West"

40 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:49:34pm
41 WimbledonWomble  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:49:35pm

Islamistoids have so many buttons to push that it's almost a joke. They are all buttons, and pretty much nothing else. We have not yet seen the "anti-Islam" equivalent of "Piss Christ," but we will. Then we'll see something interesting. Christ in the Christianity is greater than Mohammed is in Islam, as Christ is one part of the trinity that makes up God, while Mohammed is a prophet to Muslims. So nothing yet has risen (descended?) to the level of "Piss Christ." But, obviously, we have seen many times the outrage for relatively innocuous and silly depictions of Mohammed in Denmark and now Sweden. Some artist/provocateur will eventually go all the way and put the name of Allah in dung along with an image of Mohammed eating it, and maybe this will then be similar to the offensiveness of a "Piss Christ." Then we'll see the reaction and can compare the two.

Artists are valuable, when they are completely uncensored, encumbered by PC inhibitions and unafraid of the possibility of death threats. They reveal the truth of a culture or sub-culture, not so much in the work itself but in the reaction. When the equivalent of "Piss Christ" comes out, the cockroaches will REALLY come out of the woodwork. It won't be pretty, but it will be revealing.

42 Jay777  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:50:17pm
43 ErislDysnomia  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:50:27pm

OT
Can someone with better artistic skills than myself Photoshop up a "Bin Laden - Zawahiri '08" Democratic election poster?

Perhaps looking like the "Kerry Edwards - A Stronger America" poster?

44 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:50:31pm
45 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:50:41pm

I say here, perhaps we should start an effort with garden gnomes. I mean many of them have beards already.

Unfortunately, this is not going to cease until people go roundabout with some firearms and remind these morons that since they came into the country, they entered into a contract to respect the rules of the country. A bit of that stateside would be to good effect also.

46 Attaboid  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:50:51pm

re: #35 christheprofessor

I almost wrote this comment. CtP, we have never keyboarded. The"Seventies Show"?

47 cbinflux  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:50:52pm
48 jdow-antijihad  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:50:56pm

It's the religion and what it does to people.

SIGH

{o.o}

49 cbinflux  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:51:38pm

re: #43 ErislDysnomia

Obama/Z is better

50 yah  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:51:46pm

These muslims are sure full of themselves.

51 gibsonz  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:51:50pm

re: #40 savage_nation

That will do the trick !

52 Sifty  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:52:29pm

re: #44 savage_nation

re: #37 Sifty

re: #33 savage_nation

I would just like to be able to wear my Renaissance Faire clothes to work.

That's 1300's fashion, not 1970's.

Very retro, I like it

I get lots of nice comments on my Crusader outfit. Go figure.

Some things never go out of style.

53 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:52:47pm
54 cbinflux  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:53:51pm

re: #34 pat

This is another difficult thread to 'read'. It would be prudent for us to wait for CZ and the Intelligentsia's take on it.

55 jdow-antijihad  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:53:53pm

re: #51 gibsonz

re: #40 savage_nation

That will do the trick !

But what would we win that way? Would *WE* be able to remain civilized beings after wiping out 1.3 to 1.5 billion human souls? We really should try to ween them away forom their accursed religion, first.

{^_^}

56 Sifty  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:54:54pm

re: #55 jdow-antijihad

re: #51 gibsonz

re: #40 savage_nation

That will do the trick !

But what would we win that way? Would *WE* be able to remain civilized beings after wiping out 1.3 to 1.5 billion human souls? We really should try to ween them away forom their accursed religion, first.

{^_^}

That's a trick question right?

57 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:54:57pm
58 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:55:15pm

re: #36 Thanos

Aside from the album version I think I like the acoustic version better. Even though Steve Howe looks like the Crypt Keeper.

59 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:55:18pm
60 Thanos  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:55:22pm

For any Buckethead fans who might be out there.

61 stuck in california  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:55:28pm

re: #55 jdow-antijihad

Think you have to get their attention first...

62 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:55:48pm

Bay Area moonbat exploding head alert:

Rumsfeld now fellow at Hoover Institution

SAN FRANCISCO, Sept 7 (Reuters) - Former U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld has joined the Hoover Institution at Stanford University as a visiting fellow and will serve on a task force focused on issues pertaining to ideology and terror, the California think tank said on Friday
63 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:56:00pm

re: #46 Attaboid

Yup. We type. And we learned in the 70s. About which, they have a really funny show*...

/Cancelled now after 8 years, it's in syndication, so it's really easy to find...

64 neverquit  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:56:04pm

rondellhund [råndel-hun]

Definition Icke professionellt producerad skulpturkonst i form av hund eller annat djur i valfritt material som, ofta i skydd av nattens mörker, placeras på offentlig plats, företrädesvis i en rondell.

Bakgrund Alltihop började med att någon slog sönder en hund. Inte en levande hund, alltså, utan en konstgjord. En hund som var en del av ett konstverk, alltså en konstig hund, om man vill. Det var konstnären Stina Opitz som fått uppdraget att dekorera en av de många rondeller som byggts i externhandelsområdet Tornby utanför Linköping. Alltså slog någon sönder Stina Opitz betonghund vilket gavs vederbörlig uppmärksamhet i lokalpressen. En tid därefter omskrevs ärendet på nytt eftersom någon, senare identifierade som Akademi Vreta kloster, ersatt den slaktade och sedermera bortfraktade ursprungshunden med en hemmagjord i plywood. Den var ganska långbent, platt och ful men ändå väldigt uppmuntrande på något sätt. Strax därpå fick plyfa-hunden ett ben av betong att gnaga på och sedan har det dykt upp allehanda slöjdalster i både denna och andra rondeller. De verksamma amatörkonstnärerna känner uppenbarligen inga begränsningar vare sig när det gäller materialval, kvalitet, storlek eller ens djurslag. Hundar flyttas också mellan rondeller och somliga stjäls eller slås sönder. Så kan det gå. Hundarna väcker allt från munterhet till småsura kommentarer om trafiksäkerhet. De har också föranlett lokala kulturbyråkrater och makthavare att hota med att konfiskera och institutionalisera konsten och placera den i en av dem utvald rondell eller till och med på Länsmuseet vilket upprört somliga av konstnärerna.

Wow! Ummmm, anyone translate that?

65 mpickut  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:56:19pm

This sounds like a hate crime to me. Not that anyone will call it that. I'm not sure that there are love crimes for that matter, but as much as the term is used it is interestingly absent here.

66 yah  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:56:25pm

re: #43 ErislDysnomia
Great idea - maybe we can have a contest for best OBL poster

67 jdow-antijihad  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:56:28pm

re: #56 Sifty

re: #55 jdow-antijihad


re: #51 gibsonz

re: #40 savage_nation

That will do the trick !


But what would we win that way? Would *WE* be able to remain civilized beings after wiping out 1.3 to 1.5 billion human souls? We really should try to ween them away forom their accursed religion, first.

{^_^}


That's a trick question right?

Deadly serious. We CAN win with our nuclear arsenal. But is that really winning? Or is that turning into brutes as bad as those we are facing? That latter case is what happened to Genghis "Temujin" Khan's people, you know.

{^_^}

68 Beobachter  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:57:02pm

re: #28 JammieWearingFool

Behavioral Science Turns to Dogs for Answers

Maybe the dogs can tell us why Muslims are such sniveling babies.

Some cool dog pics at the link, btw.

In the same German rag: SPIEGEL ONLINE spoke with terror expert Edwin Bakker: 'I'm Not All That Worried About Terrorism'.

69 Sifty  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:57:10pm

re: #59 savage_nation

re: #51 gibsonz

re: #40 savage_nation

That will do the trick !

Radiation therapy for the Wahhabist cancer that infects this planet.

hehehehehe We are slinging the Kos-fodder with a shovel tonite! Let the cherry pickin begin! Love it!

I'm going into the wood shop Sunday and building a Roundabout Pig for my front lawn.

70 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:57:35pm
71 Thanos  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:58:15pm

re: #62 JammieWearingFool

Bay Area moonbat exploding head alert:

Rumsfeld now fellow at Hoover Institution

SAN FRANCISCO, Sept 7 (Reuters) - Former U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld has joined the Hoover Institution at Stanford University as a visiting fellow and will serve on a task force focused on issues pertaining to ideology and terror, the California think tank said on Friday


This is great news, it means he might start appearing on Fox as a guest sometime in the future.

72 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:59:50pm
73 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 5:59:52pm

re: #65 mpickut

This sounds like a hate crime to me. Not that anyone will call it that. I'm not sure that there are love crimes for that matter, but as much as the term is used it is interestingly absent here.

OJ. 'Nuff said...

74 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:00:03pm
75 redshirt  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:00:17pm

re: #67 jdow-antijihad

I get your point and agree somewhat, but I don't see any starting point for peaceful negootiations.
We are willing to live in peace.
They want us to submit to islam or die.
Where is any middle ground? If one side has to die (according to them) it aint gonna be my side! how do you wean 1.5 billion people off a religion?

76 Sifty  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:00:36pm

re: #67 jdow-antijihad

You just relax. I'll push the button so you don't have to feel guilty or nuthin'.

77 Iron Fist  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:00:45pm

re: #50 yah,

They are very confident that we will sit back and allow them to slowly strangle us. They may be correct in that, but I think it more likely that, at some point in this little excercize the American people are going to take measures into their own hands.

I've always said that it is the American street that needs to be watched. Not that some Americans won't fight on the side of the enemy. We're already seeing those lines being drawn.

78 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:01:00pm

re: #68 Beobachter

re: #28 JammieWearingFool

Behavioral Science Turns to Dogs for Answers

Maybe the dogs can tell us why Muslims are such sniveling babies.

Some cool dog pics at the link, btw.

In the same German rag: SPIEGEL ONLINE spoke with terror expert Edwin Bakker: 'I'm Not All That Worried About Terrorism'.

Duly noted.

79 Jeewhiz  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:01:51pm
According to police, the woman - described as a devout Muslim with a family - was not part of any militant networks. She did not say that she would personally kill Lars Vilks but she encouraged others to do so.

Well, hard to argue with logic like that.


/sarc tag

80 Thanos  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:01:56pm

re: #72 song_and_dance_man

re: #37 Sifty


re: #33 savage_nation

I would just like to be able to wear my Renaissance Faire clothes to work.


I used to love going to the Renaissance Fair. We, my wife and young son, went for the first time and around noon we were tired and to rest sat on some haysbails that were layed out in a circle. Before we knew it we heard a clamor and the circle of hay began to fill with people. Before we knew it the Queen's precession could be seen coming our way with a large court parade. She set up shop right in front of us. There's nothing like front hay bail seats to see a rather elaborate and flamboyant pseudo-Queen. Great show and fair.

If you haven't been lately it's worth the trip to see the Jousts. The good guy carries a shield with a cross, the bad guy's a saracen.

81 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:02:14pm

re: #71 Thanos

re: #62 JammieWearingFool

Bay Area moonbat exploding head alert:

Rumsfeld now fellow at Hoover Institution

SAN FRANCISCO, Sept 7 (Reuters) - Former U.S. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld has joined the Hoover Institution at Stanford University as a visiting fellow and will serve on a task force focused on issues pertaining to ideology and terror, the California think tank said on Friday


This is great news, it means he might start appearing on Fox as a guest sometime in the future.

They have some impressive minds there. Sowell's my favorite.

82 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:02:27pm
83 Pro-Bush Canuck  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:03:08pm

re: #67 jdow-antijihad


That's a trick question right?We CAN win with our nuclear arsenal.

Well Russia can still annihilate the US, so I don't think triggering global thermonuclear war is the prudent course of action.

84 Bill Amos  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:03:11pm

More Islamic terror. Opps sorry SUSPECTED MILITANTS !

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Militants behead 2 women in Pakistan By BASHIRULLAH KHAN, Associated Press Writer

BANNU, Pakistan - Suspected Islamic militants beheaded two women in northwest Pakistan after accusing them of being prostitutes, police said Friday.

Villagers spotted the decapitated bodies on the outskirts of Bannu, a city in a region where extremists are waging a violent campaign to impose Taliban-style social rules, a police official said.

The two women, 28 and 30, were riding an auto rickshaw when five armed men, wearing masks, overpowered them, bundled them into a car and drove away, he said, quoting witnesses.

A note found with the bodies identified the victims as Bannu residents and accused them of "doing acts of obscenity," a term meaning prostitution, said the official, who asked for anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

"We have started doing this to end obscenity in the area," the official quoted the note as saying.

Extremists have bombed shops selling music and movies in Bannu and other towns in North West Frontier Province, and barbers have been warned not to shave customers' beards — moves reminiscent of the harsh version of Islamic law once imposed by the Taliban in neighboring Afghanistan.

In Mingora, a town south of Bannu, a powerful bomb blast Friday destroyed 48 shops in a downtown market, 33 of them selling music and movie CDs, a local police official said. No one was hurt in the attack.

The pre-dawn explosion damaged the gates of the shops and scattered CDs in the market. Music shops in the market had received warnings in the past from suspected militants to close their businesses, the official said.

Meanwhile, suspected militants shot dead the son and a nephew of a pro-government tribal elder in Bajur, a tribally governed region bordering Afghanistan, local security official Tor Khan said.

Two masked gunmen on a motorcycle opened fire on the two men in Lagharay, a village near Bajur's main town of Khar, Khan said.

Militants have killed scores of tribesmen and beheaded some of them in the border region after accusing them of collaborating with Pakistani security authorities or spying for the United States.

Associated press writers Habibullah Khan in Khar and Sadaqat Jan in Islamabad contributed to this report.

85 Iron Fist  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:05:04pm

re: #55 jdow-antijihad,

What do you think we are doing right now in Iraq and Afghanistan? If people really want peace, they should be praying for the US to win quickly and completely in Iraq.

An American loss will lead to genocide. Even Barak Obama sees that.

86 Jeewhiz  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:05:24pm
and barbers have been warned not to shave customers' beards — moves reminiscent of the harsh version of Islamic law once imposed by the Taliban in neighboring Afghanistan.

Then I suppose asking for a Brazillian is also 'out'?

Just asking...

87 Thanos  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:05:48pm

For those who don't know the etymology of Saracen, John of Damascus:

There is also the people-deceiving religion of the Ishmaelites, the forerunner of the Antichrist, which prevails until now. It derives from Ishmael, who was born to Abraham from Hagar, wherefore they are called Hagarenes and Ishmaelites. And they call them Saracens, inasmuch as they were [sent away] empty-handed by Sarah (%u1F10%u03BA %u03C4%u1FC6%u03C2 %u03A3%u03AC%u1FE4%u1FE5%u03B1%u03C2 %u03BA%u03B5%u03BD%u03BF%u03CD%u03C2); for it was said to the angel by Hagar: "Sarah has sent me away empty-handed" (cf. Genesis xxi. 10, 14).
These, then, were idolaters and worshippers of the morning star and Aphrodite whom in fact they called Akbar (Chabar) in their own language, which means "great". So until the times of Heraclius they were plain idolaters.

88 Sifty  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:06:07pm

re: #80 Thanos

re: #72 song_and_dance_man

re: #37 Sifty


re: #33 savage_nationI would just like to be able to wear my Renaissance Faire clothes to work.


I used to love going to the Renaissance Fair. We, my wife and young son, went for the first time and around noon we were tired and to rest sat on some haysbails that were layed out in a circle. Before we knew it we heard a clamor and the circle of hay began to fill with people. Before we knew it the Queen's precession could be seen coming our way with a large court parade. She set up shop right in front of us. There's nothing like front hay bail seats to see a rather elaborate and flamboyant pseudo-Queen. Great show and fair.

If you haven't been lately it's worth the trip to see the Jousts. The good guy carries a shield with a cross, the bad guy's a saracen.

I'm at just about all of them in California. Best place to meet women in the world. Better than standing in the yard of the women's prison with a handful of pardons. Met my beautiful bride at the faire.
We tease the pseudo-saracens mercilessly. I actually had a sticker shaped like a big bomb that I put on my Crusader shield for a while.

89 greenmiler  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:06:08pm

Lizardoid to Obama
RE: Video
FOAD

90 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:06:15pm
91 jdow-antijihad  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:06:32pm

re: #70 savage_nation

re: #55 jdow-antijihad


re: #51 gibsonz

re: #40 savage_nation

That will do the trick !


But what would we win that way? Would *WE* be able to remain civilized beings after wiping out 1.3 to 1.5 billion human souls? We really should try to ween them away forom their accursed religion, first.

{^_^}


Would you rather be on the receiving end of a Islamic nuclear blast? Not me.

I agree we should use massive brainwashing, but it might be too late for that.

If we're to remain humane beings we must wait until they deploy the first nuke. Then we must be prepared to reduce every place in the world that has this infection to a glassy lake. The religion will have proven itself. It's a shame about what that would do to Detroit, LA, SF, and other cities. (And I'd be in the fall out pattern for LA.) If that religion deploys nukes it cannot be allowed to survive anywhere on this planet. But until then the secular Muslims have a chance, even if that is an oxymoron.

They had better get crackin'.

{^_^}

92 lookingup  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:06:56pm

I did not want to make my second post without thanking Charles for letting me be here. Dennis Prager is the reason I ever found this place.
on topic: Prior to 9-11 how many of us knew the depth of evil this religion brings to the world? Like many I have now become educated and #40 Savage_Nation expresses......I had bettter stop here I don't want to get deleted or worse on my second post.
Love this place.

93 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:08:01pm
94 CLLRusso  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:08:33pm

The religion of peace strikes again. Kudos to Lars Vilks! Kudos to the Swedish people who refuse to be intimidated by the Islamic terrorists within their population. Muslims like the woman should be deported to a Islamic country.

If Christians behaved like Islamics every time Christianity was "insulted" the world would be afire, since we seem to be on every hit list world wide. I have no sympathy what so ever for Muslims, with their mindset they have no business emigrating to western countries. They do not share our culture, our values or our religious beliefs, and seem only to want us to capitulate to them. No wonder we are digging in our heels and saying no to all immigration from Islamic countries.

95 gibsonz  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:09:03pm

re: #60 Thanos

AWESOME...If only I could get my guitar to sound like that.I think it`s broke (maybe it`s the operator)!

96 Thanos  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:09:05pm

re: #92 lookingup

I did not want to make my second post without thanking Charles for letting me be here. Dennis Prager is the reason I ever found this place.
on topic: Prior to 9-11 how many of us knew the depth of evil this religion brings to the world? Like many I have now become educated and #40 Savage_Nation expresses......I had bettter stop here I don't want to get deleted or worse on my second post.
Love this place.

Well I read my history, and before that I read Night, and Babi Yar when I was about 11. I must admit that I was more focused against Marxists most of my youth however.

97 Geepers  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:09:23pm

lookingup (#92),

Prior to 9-11 how many of us knew the depth of evil this religion brings to the world?

Me.

98 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:09:31pm

re: #22 Pope Insouciance IV

Cry havoc and let slip the roundabout dogs of war.

I like!

99 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:09:33pm

re: #32 gibsonz

The cure is available, unfortunately, the willingness to use it is not.

I do not care what anyone wishes to define their relation to the universe in terms of. You can put a shrine to the great god of the cola and worship a coke can knocking your head on the foor towards atlanta, ga. Your biz, none of mine. However, when you spill your belief system into ways that effect me, I get to have a say. What these people have done is assault. I.e. as defined by common law:

Four elements were required at common law:

1. The apparent, present ability to carry out;
2. An unlawful attempt;
3. To commit a violent injury;
4. Upon another.

As the criminal law evolved, element 1 was weakened in most jurisdictions so that a reasonable fear of bodily injury would suffice. These four elements were eventually codified in most states.

You need not harm someone to be guilty of assault. If I walk up to you with an ax and threaten to split your head open, that is assault, no matter if I do it or not. If I do harm you it is battery, etc. under common law.

Very simply they should be tried, convicted, and deported to their home countries after serving a period in jail. If their home country then proceeds against them then perhaps they should have considered this fact before they committed the crime of assault. Calling for others to commit a violent injury is an incitement to violence and a crime in most jurisdictions and should be so treated. Problem is that the pc multiculturalism moonbats do not have the balls to enforce the law of the land.

100 Beobachter  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:09:33pm

re: #78 JammieWearingFool

re: #68 Beobachter

re: #28 JammieWearingFool

Behavioral Science Turns to Dogs for Answers

Maybe the dogs can tell us why Muslims are such sniveling babies.

Some cool dog pics at the link, btw.

In the same German rag: SPIEGEL ONLINE spoke with terror expert Edwin Bakker: 'I'm Not All That Worried About Terrorism'.

Duly noted.

Not trying to nit pick here, but doesn't that deserve at least a little hat tip?

101 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:10:16pm
102 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:10:19pm


Why there's no conservative Kos.

Most prominent conservative bloggers are middle-aged. None has shown any interest in developing a political movement. There are younger conservative bloggers who share Moulitsas's ambition, but none of them has amassed a fraction of his audience.

Glenn Reynolds of Instapundit, the most widely read center-right blogger, amplifies Johnson's point. "Different needs produce different approaches," he says. "People on the right think their political machine works, but that the media is out to get them. Hence rightish blogging is more about punditry and reporting, and they've succeeded--note the paucity of lefty bloggers embedding in Iraq, while the number on the right is extensive enough that I can no longer name them all. People on the left, on the other hand, know the media is basically on their side, but feel that their political machine stinks, so they've focused on building a new one. And they've succeeded, too."

I think this is dead on. I have no interest in blindly getting Republicans elected. Look at what the Koskidz have to show for their efforts. They're now whining along with Osama that their elected officials aren't doing their bidding.
I'd much rather spend my time and effort discovering the truth than shilling for politicians who will ignore me once elected.

103 Pro-Bush Canuck  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:10:26pm

re: #85 Iron Fist

re: #55 jdow-antijihad,

What do you think we are doing right now in Iraq and Afghanistan? If people really want peace, they should be praying for the US to win quickly and completely in Iraq.

An American loss will lead to genocide. Even Barak Obama sees that.

It doesn't have to be a loss. It could be a simple cut and run a la Indochina. Leftists "won" that policital battle and 4 million human beings paid the price. There are no signs the Left has learned anything, nor that they care any more about an Iraqi genocide than they cared about the Vietnamese and Cambodians they condemned to mass death.

104 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:11:23pm

re: #92 lookingup

Welcome.

105 Outrider  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:11:25pm

OT kinda. 'Racist' sports shirts banned from school pic

How is this for a cave in?

A school principal in southern Sweden has banned pupils from posing for class photos wearing national team shirts containing Swedish flags.
Since national flags may be perceived by some as xenophobic, eighth grade pupils in Karlshamn have been ordered to wear less inflammatory garb for a photo to be published in the school yearbook...story continues.....

106 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:11:45pm

re: #100 Beobachter

re: #78 JammieWearingFool

re: #68 Beobachter

re: #28 JammieWearingFool

Behavioral Science Turns to Dogs for Answers

Maybe the dogs can tell us why Muslims are such sniveling babies.

Some cool dog pics at the link, btw.

In the same German rag: SPIEGEL ONLINE spoke with terror expert Edwin Bakker: 'I'm Not All That Worried About Terrorism'.

Duly noted.

Not trying to nit pick here, but doesn't that deserve at least a little hat tip?

I posted that seven hours ago.

107 Thanos  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:12:30pm

re: #95 gibsonz

re: #60 Thanos

AWESOME...If only I could get my guitar to sound like that.I think it`s broke (maybe it`s the operator)!

Yeah, some guitars tone/sound/timbre you can't describe in words, you just love it. The same guitar from the same maker made a week later sounds entirely different, it's sort of the luck of the draw I think. Best sounding guitar I ever heard was a Gibson btw, belonged to Harry "rockstar" Smith. He played on "I'm your vehicle baby", and was the only musician in Fairbanks at the time who had a real record. We used to tease him mercilessly about it, hence the nickname "Rockstar" before it was fashionable...

108 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:12:41pm

re: #47 cbinflux

LOLOLOLOLOL!

109 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:12:42pm
110 jdow-antijihad  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:13:10pm

re: #101 savage_nation

re: #91 jdow-antijihad


re: #70 savage_nation

re: #55 jdow-antijihad

re: #51 gibsonz

re: #40 savage_nationThat will do the trick !

But what would we win that way? Would *WE* be able to remain civilized beings after wiping out 1.3 to 1.5 billion human souls? We really should try to ween them away forom their accursed religion, first.{^_^}

Would you rather be on the receiving end of a Islamic nuclear blast? Not me.I agree we should use massive brainwashing, but it might be too late for that.

If we're to remain humane beings we must wait until they deploy the first nuke. Then we must be prepared to reduce every place in the world that has this infection to a glassy lake. The religion will have proven itself. It's a shame about what that would do to Detroit, LA, SF, and other cities. (And I'd be in the fall out pattern for LA.) If that religion deploys nukes it cannot be allowed to survive anywhere on this planet. But until then the secular Muslims have a chance, even if that is an oxymoron.

They had better get crackin'.

{^_^}


HUH? You wanna wait til we get nuked first? Sorry, but that is insanity.

If we don't wait we have to live with what we become. And I am not sure that is acceptable. Look at what the Crusades did to Europe. How long did it take them to recenter on Christ's teachings rather than the rather stretched out of all sanity interpretations that allowed and enabled the Crusades.

We're in a lose lose situation unless we play it just right.
{^_^}

111 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:14:09pm

re: #50 yah

These muslims are sure full of themselves SHIT.

A small adjustment. Hope you don't mind.

112 Bill Amos  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:14:15pm

UN Human rights comission. force feeding of Gitmo Prisoners is "Torture"

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Guantanamo medics 'fail patients'

Most prisoners at Guantanamo have not been charged
US military doctors have been accused of turning a blind eye to abuse at Guantanamo Bay prison camp, in a letter published in a British medical journal.
The letter in The Lancet focused on accusations of force-feeding of hunger strikers at the prison camp in Cuba.

It also drew parallels between the doctors at Guantanamo and South African doctors involved in the treatment of anti-apartheid activist Steve Biko.

Mr Biko died 30 years ago while being detained by security police.

Fraudulent record keeping

Initially it was suggested that Mr Biko died of a hunger strike but an inquest later heard he died of head injuries sustained during a police interrogation.

It was found that the two doctors responsible for treating Mr Biko had provided inadequate care and falsified medical records.

The letter in The Lancet noted that no US medical worker had been charged with any serious offence but that there were "numerous instances documented including fraudulent record keeping on detainees who have died as a result of failed interrogations".

The letter alleges that the failure of the US regulatory authorities to investigate such instances is damaging the reputation of US military medicine.

"The attitude of the US medical establishment appears to be one of 'see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil'", it said.

Four prisoners have died in custody so far in Guantanamo Bay.

'Form of torture'

The UN Human Rights Commission has said that it regards force-feeding at Guantanamo - where detainees are strapped to chairs for hours and fed through tubes - as a form of torture.

Dr David Nicholl, consultant neurologist at Birmingham City Hospital in the UK, co-ordinated The Lancet letter on behalf of 206 signatories from 16 countries, including Britain, the US and South Africa.

The letter is highly critical of inaction by the medical boards of California and Georgia which are responsible for regulating the former hospital commander at Guantanamo, John Edmondson.

Mr Edmondson is alleged to have started the practise of force-feeding at the prison camp when serious hunger strikes began in 2005.

About 340 detainees are being held in Guantanamo on suspicion of links to terrorism. Many have been there several years, but most have not been charged.

113 Racer X  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:14:33pm

Islam = Terrorism

Questions?

114 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:14:43pm

So is this the FNDT?

115 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:14:48pm

re: #91 jdow-antijihad
We don't need our nuclear arsenal to win, nor to respond to a nuke on a US city. We can destroy their civilizations quite effectively with conventional weapons.
Nukes are good for mutual assured destruction anf for the threat of retaliation. If NYC or LA gets nuked, the American people may want vengeance immediately; we may also regret it ten or twenty years later.
One more reason I'm glad I'm not President.

116 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:15:12pm
117 Beobachter  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:15:14pm

re: #106 JammieWearingFool

re: #100 Beobachter

re: #78 JammieWearingFool

re: #68 Beobachter

re: #28 JammieWearingFool

Behavioral Science Turns to Dogs for Answers

Maybe the dogs can tell us why Muslims are such sniveling babies.

Some cool dog pics at the link, btw.

In the same German rag: SPIEGEL ONLINE spoke with terror expert Edwin Bakker: 'I'm Not All That Worried About Terrorism'.

Duly noted.

Not trying to nit pick here, but doesn't that deserve at least a little hat tip?

I posted that seven hours ago.

Sorry about that, then. But I couldn't find a time on your post. I apologize.

118 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:15:29pm
119 Pro-Bush Canuck  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:15:35pm

Swedish news: Being a man 'bad for the environment'

Sheesh. I thought Canadians and Democrats were pussified. Sweden takes the cake as the most feminazified country in existence.

120 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:15:39pm

re: #60 Thanos

Ever heard a Harp Guitar?

121 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:15:49pm

re: #105 Outrider

OT kinda. 'Racist' sports shirts banned from school pic

How is this for a cave in?


A school principal in southern Sweden has banned pupils from posing for class photos wearing national team shirts containing Swedish flags.
Since national flags may be perceived by some as xenophobic, eighth grade pupils in Karlshamn have been ordered to wear less inflammatory garb for a photo to be published in the school yearbook...story continues.....

But I'll be they can burn those shirts without any hassle whatsoever...

122 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:16:06pm

re: #67 jdow-antijihad

re: #56 Sifty


re: #55 jdow-antijihad

re: #51 gibsonz

re: #40 savage_nation
That will do the trick !

But what would we win that way? Would *WE* be able to remain civilized beings after wiping out 1.3 to 1.5 billion human souls? We really should try to ween them away forom their accursed religion, first.
{^_^}

That's a trick question right?

Deadly serious. We CAN win with our nuclear arsenal. But is that really winning? Or is that turning into brutes as bad as those we are facing? That latter case is what happened to Genghis "Temujin" Khan's people, you know.

{^_^}

I sure hope you're right.

123 EE  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:17:01pm

Freedom of religion means that people have the right to love Islam and people have the right to personally hate it, and everything in between.

These accusations of blasphemy have a legal place only in a theocratic society, and that is not what modern civilization is about. In modern civilization, they are nothing except calls for murder, and those calls for murder are, or should be, prosecutable crimes. Incitement to murder should not go unpunished.

124 Thanos  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:17:03pm

re: #120 Cap'n DOC

re: #60 Thanos

Ever heard a Harp Guitar?


No I don't think I have, do you have a link with decent audio of someone playing one?

125 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:17:08pm
126 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:17:25pm
127 christheprofessor  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:17:35pm

re: #112 Bill Amos

It is

The Lancet

, after all... A boil on the ass of civilization, much in need of lancing itself...

128 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:18:18pm

re: #105 Outrider

OT kinda. 'Racist' sports shirts banned from school pic

How is this for a cave in?


A school principal in southern Sweden has banned pupils from posing for class photos wearing national team shirts containing Swedish flags.
Since national flags may be perceived by some as xenophobic, eighth grade pupils in Karlshamn have been ordered to wear less inflammatory garb for a photo to be published in the school yearbook...story continues.....

Not OT at all.

129 Geepers  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:18:19pm

Bill Amos (#112),

I stopped after I got to "the Lancet".

They burned any credibility they had when they admitted that their 100,000 dead Iraqis was crap and was rushed to publication in an attempt to influence the US presidential election.

130 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:18:29pm

re: #124 Thanos

Yes, there are one or two on youtube. Let me see if I can dig them up.

131 Thanos  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:19:03pm

re: #124 Thanos

re: #120 Cap'n DOC


re: #60 Thanos

Ever heard a Harp Guitar?


No I don't think I have, do you have a link with decent audio of someone playing one?

Wait a minute, yes I have ... that's the instrument someone was playing in a link I posted the other night.

132 Sifty  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:19:30pm

re: #116 savage_nation

Agreed. Now as soon as I get my check from Rove, I'm off to the Crusades!

And Hiroshima doesn't make me lose one wink of sleep, and for the same reasons.

133 CLLRusso  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:19:35pm

re: #87 Thanos

For those who don't know the etymology of Saracen, John of Damascus:


There is also the people-deceiving religion of the Ishmaelites, the forerunner of the Antichrist, which prevails until now. It derives from Ishmael, who was born to Abraham from Hagar, wherefore they are called Hagarenes and Ishmaelites. And they call them Saracens, inasmuch as they were [sent away] empty-handed by Sarah (%u1F10%u03BA %u03C4%u1FC6%u03C2 %u03A3%u03AC%u1FE4%u1FE5%u03B1%u03C2 %u03BA%u03B5%u03BD%u03BF%u03CD%u03C2); for it was said to the angel by Hagar: "Sarah has sent me away empty-handed" (cf. Genesis xxi. 10, 14).
These, then, were idolaters and worshippers of the morning star and Aphrodite whom in fact they called Akbar (Chabar) in their own language, which means "great". So until the times of Heraclius they were plain idolaters.

So Abraham taught them nothing about monotheism?

134 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:20:30pm

It'd be fun to name a pet dog Mohammad, although it might be insulting to the dog...

135 Jim in Virginia  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:20:37pm

re: #125 song_and_dance_man

I like your economical solution.

Britney Spears. Madonna, Nsync, etc will do the trick even more cheaply.
(That's why they hate us.)

136 R.A.D. Dad  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:20:57pm

Any pictures of this dreadful Roundabout Dog? I saw some sketch, which looked like something my six year old might draw. I'd like to see what was soooo offensive it needed to be torched.

137 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:21:15pm

re: #114 Ward Cleaver

So is this the FNDT?

Friday Night Doggie Thread.

138 jdow-antijihad  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:21:51pm

re: #115 Jim in Virginia

re: #91 jdow-antijihad
We don't need our nuclear arsenal to win, nor to respond to a nuke on a US city. We can destroy their civilizations quite effectively with conventional weapons.
Nukes are good for mutual assured destruction anf for the threat of retaliation. If NYC or LA gets nuked, the American people may want vengeance immediately; we may also regret it ten or twenty years later.
One more reason I'm glad I'm not President.


I read you 5 by 5. There are no easy choices to make. I wish a magic wand could be invented to take out every believer violent Jihad anywhere in the world. But there's no good way to figure out who is who.

Meantime we SHOULD remind them that every glass of water any where in the world they drink has atoms in it that have filtered through pig kidneys.

{^_-}

139 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:21:57pm
140 Thanos  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:22:16pm

re: #133 CLLRusso

re: #87 Thanos


For those who don't know the etymology of Saracen, John of Damascus:

There is also the people-deceiving religion of the Ishmaelites, the forerunner of the Antichrist, which prevails until now. It derives from Ishmael, who was born to Abraham from Hagar, wherefore they are called Hagarenes and Ishmaelites. And they call them Saracens, inasmuch as they were [sent away] empty-handed by Sarah for it was said to the angel by Hagar: "Sarah has sent me away empty-handed" (cf. Genesis xxi. 10, 14).
These, then, were idolaters and worshippers of the morning star and Aphrodite whom in fact they called Akbar (Chabar) in their own language, which means "great". So until the times of Heraclius they were plain idolaters.

So Abraham taught them nothing about monotheism?

Well if he did they didn't listen according to John, who was living in the Caliph's city at the time...

141 Geepers  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:22:20pm

R.A.D. Dad (#136),

It wasn't what it was, but rather who it was by.

142 jdow-antijihad  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:22:30pm

re: #133 CLLRusso

re: #87 Thanos


For those who don't know the etymology of Saracen, John of Damascus:

There is also the people-deceiving religion of the Ishmaelites, the forerunner of the Antichrist, which prevails until now. It derives from Ishmael, who was born to Abraham from Hagar, wherefore they are called Hagarenes and Ishmaelites. And they call them Saracens, inasmuch as they were [sent away] empty-handed by Sarah (%u1F10%u03BA %u03C4%u1FC6%u03C2 %u03A3%u03AC%u1FE4%u1FE5%u03B1%u03C2 %u03BA%u03B5%u03BD%u03BF%u03CD%u03C2); for it was said to the angel by Hagar: "Sarah has sent me away empty-handed" (cf. Genesis xxi. 10, 14).
These, then, were idolaters and worshippers of the morning star and Aphrodite whom in fact they called Akbar (Chabar) in their own language, which means "great". So until the times of Heraclius they were plain idolaters.

So Abraham taught them nothing about monotheism?

Whaddaya want? Mohammed was an illiterate punk.
{^_-}

143 DesertSage  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:22:56pm

Ron Paul?

144 hayseed  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:22:59pm

I wonder what Muslims would think of this K9

145 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:23:43pm
146 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:23:53pm

re: #129 Geepers

Bill Amos (#112),

I stopped after I got to "the Lancet".

They burned any credibility they had when they admitted that their 100,000 dead Iraqis was crap and was rushed to publication in an attempt to influence the US presidential election.


Lancet actually claimed 650,000 dead Iraqis.

147 Thanos  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:24:08pm

re: #144 hayseed

I wonder what Muslims would think of this K9

Hey.... Robot dogs is soooo last thread


;)

148 jdow-antijihad  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:24:12pm

re: #143 DesertSage

Ron Paul?

Better yet a "none of the above" with teeth on the ballot.

If "none of the above" wins all listed candidates are barred from holding office again, even as municiple dog catcher, for the rest of their lives.

{^_-}

149 Sifty  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:24:15pm

re: #74 savage_nation

re: #69 Sifty

re: #59 savage_nation

re: #51 gibsonz

re: #40 savage_nation

That will do the trick !

Radiation therapy for the Wahhabist cancer that infects this planet.

hehehehehe We are slinging the Kos-fodder with a shovel tonite! Let the cherry pickin begin! Love it!

I'm going into the wood shop Sunday and building a Roundabout Pig for my front lawn.

Gonna use a hammer and chisel or a chainsaw?

/remember The Runaways?

Sweet! She is right down the road. Wonder what the website was about though...

150 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:24:17pm

re: #143 DesertSage

Ron Paul!

151 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:24:58pm

re: #131 Thanos

Yes! That's one of them I found. Something about the sound of bass strings does me in. It may have something to do with the size of box, but it just sounds so rich.

152 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:25:00pm

re: #139 savage_nation

Woof. I heard that Texas has opened the roads here to Mexican trucks, and that they could be on our roads by tomorrow. What think ya?

153 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:25:10pm
154 jdow-antijihad  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:25:25pm

re: #147 Thanos

re: #144 hayseed


I wonder what Muslims would think of this K9

Hey.... Robot dogs is soooo last thread


;)

But a robot dog with Mohammed's head that was armed with its own sub-machine gun to prevent its being set afire and that walked around the circle widdershins would be a winner.

{^_-}

155 gibsonz  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:25:51pm

re: #107 Thanos

Had to listen to that again...not only has he got a great tone but he is a phenomenal player!

156 DesertSage  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:26:15pm

re: #145 savage_nation

Well, I've been working all day, but by the news I've been hearing it seems that OBL has the same talking points as the Democrats.

Does that about sum it up?
Do Harry and Nancy mind that the Lefties have a new leader?

157 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:27:18pm

Gutfeld on Osama tape (via Hot Air)

So you've seen the latest message from our favorite goat-toucher Usama bin Laden. In it, he criticizes Americans for reelecting, instead of punishing, Bush, as well as harping on Democrats for not securing a retreat from Iraq. He also mentions global warming and praises Noam Chomsky, the patron saint of the left.

It was at this point, I thought I was listening to Keith Olbermann. That's when it dawned on me. Bin Laden isn't just a terrorist. He's worse. A liberal!

So, when one political party shares a war-time agenda with the guy who's trying to end your civilization, isn't it time to stop renewing Bill Maher's contract? I mean, if Usama wrote these sentiments on a job application, he could land a spot on the View.

158 jdow-antijihad  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:27:34pm

re: #156 DesertSage

re: #145 savage_nation

Well, I've been working all day, but by the news I've been hearing it seems that OBL has the same talking points as the Democrats.

Does that about sum it up?
Do Harry and Nancy mind that the Lefties have a new leader?

Means OBL and The Hillary are in cahoots, doesn't it?

{^_-}

159 Thanos  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:27:40pm

re: #155 gibsonz

re: #107 Thanos

Had to listen to that again...not only has he got a great tone but he is a phenomenal player!

Yep, there's a whole slug of vids on him, I am kinda scrolling through them as I read.

160 EC Marm  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:27:58pm

re: #150 Killgore Trout

Ron Paul!

Now I have yet to read every word of OBLs latest, but I failed to see any mention of Ron Paul. An oversight or intentional snub?

161 jdow-antijihad  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:28:25pm

re: #157 JammieWearingFool

Gutfeld on Osama tape (via Hot Air)

So you've seen the latest message from our favorite goat-toucher Usama bin Laden. In it, he criticizes Americans for reelecting, instead of punishing, Bush, as well as harping on Democrats for not securing a retreat from Iraq. He also mentions global warming and praises Noam Chomsky, the patron saint of the left.
It was at this point, I thought I was listening to Keith Olbermann. That's when it dawned on me. Bin Laden isn't just a terrorist. He's worse. A liberal!

So, when one political party shares a war-time agenda with the guy who's trying to end your civilization, isn't it time to stop renewing Bill Maher's contract? I mean, if Usama wrote these sentiments on a job application, he could land a spot on the View.

Only if he had a sex change.
{^_-}

162 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:28:47pm
163 new2thezoo  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:29:08pm

I think some roundabout pigs are due on the swedish byways.

164 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:29:23pm

re: #153 song_and_dance_man

I hope I don't offend and Romney fans, but the life of mohammed and the tales he told are paralleled in that of Joseph Smith. Way too many convergences if you will. I have bi clue who mohammed claimed he was descended from. His life was not what I'd consider a likely candidate for an angelic visit.

165 Austin Conservative  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:29:48pm

I think it's time to take a mohammad bomble head and stick him in a jar of piss with barbie & ken shoes stuck all over his bomb head and take a nice hi-res picture. Now that would be art. Perhaps we can get the libs to fund it. PissMo, the Bring It On Art.

I love the idea.

166 jdow-antijihad  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:29:53pm

re: #163 new2thezoo

I think some roundabout pigs are due on the swedish byways.

Ah yes, protect the wooden statues.

{^_^}

167 cbinflux  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:30:11pm

re: #64 neverquit

Yes, you can, of sorts. If you hven't set your browser to do so as a selection, go to [Link: babelfish.altavista.com...] or a host of other Translators.

Usually useful, often comical. YMMV

168 MandyManners  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:30:27pm

Al Aqeada's Bitch YouTube.

WHO IS THIS GUY?

169 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:30:29pm
170 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:30:30pm

bi = no PIMF...

171 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:30:34pm

re: #156 DesertSage

I've been watching the KosKidz struggle with it all afternoon....
Please Don't Quote Bin Laden

I am actually quite disappointed with the folks we put into power. But I will never allow Osama bin Laden to make my point for me.
....
Let's not use this guy as a source for our entirely credible arguments. We have the facts on our side.

Osama has put the Koskidz in a tough spot.
/All ur talking points are belong to us

172 cbinflux  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:30:57pm

re: #152 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Old news, and it ain't just Texas.

173 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:31:08pm

CBS says Osama is in Chitral, Pakistan

Vaporize the neighborhood.

174 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:31:35pm

re: #160 EC Marm

Intentional snub. I think he's protecting his friends. (for now)

175 Bob the Scot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:31:54pm

In his 87 Thanos has hit the beginnings of the problem between the arabs and the Jews

176 easy  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:31:58pm

re: #112 Bill Amos
From your link:

Many have been there several years, but most have not been charged.


I was going to counter that statement but it is just not worth the effort. These people are just dim-witted.

177 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:32:08pm

re: #171 Killgore Trout

re: #156 DesertSage

I've been watching the KosKidz struggle with it all afternoon....
Please Don't Quote Bin Laden

I am actually quite disappointed with the folks we put into power. But I will never allow Osama bin Laden to make my point for me.
....
Let's not use this guy as a source for our entirely credible arguments. We have the facts on our side.

Osama has put the Koskidz in a tough spot.
/All ur talking points are belong to us


I was reading that earlier.

Oh, the hand-wringing.

178 Sifty  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:32:14pm

re: #162 savage_nation

I was staring so hard at her that I forgot how to read. It happens in simple creatures.

179 whiterasta  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:32:15pm

#119, Pro Bush Canuck:

How do you like the complete uproar from the leftie press in Canada about Mulroney pointing out that St. Trudeau was a raging Jew hater and a supporter of Hitler?

180 Racer X  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:32:23pm

re: #157 JammieWearingFool

Bin Laden isn't just a terrorist. He's worse. A liberal!


New rotating title?

181 cbinflux  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:32:50pm

re: #114 Ward Cleaver

A medicinal Guinness in hand, yep.

182 DesertSage  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:33:54pm

re: #171 Killgore Trout

The best line of the GOP debate was when Chris Wallace asked Ron Paul if he was taking his marching orders from OBL.

The same can now be said about the entire Democrat party. They're ALL taking their marching orders from OBL!

183 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:34:36pm
184 Pro-Bush Canuck  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:35:07pm

re: #179 whiterasta

I am chortling with satisfaction that someone with influence finally had the balls to call that womanizing communist what he really was.

Pierre Trudeau was Canada's Jimmy Carter. Only difference: Trudeau was in power for 15 years. Not hard to imagine what America would be like after 15 years of Carter (were it possble).

185 Da_Beerfreak  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:35:09pm

re: #110 jdow-antijihad

If we don't wait we have to live with what we become. And I am not sure that is acceptable. Look at what the Crusades did to Europe. How long did it take them to recenter on Christ's teachings rather than the rather stretched out of all sanity interpretations that allowed and enabled the Crusades.

We're in a lose lose situation unless we play it just right.
{^_^}

Without giving it too much thought, I'd rather be alive and corrupted, not dead and pure.

186 jdow-antijihad  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:35:14pm

re: #182 DesertSage

re: #171 Killgore Trout

The best line of the GOP debate was when Chris Wallace asked Ron Paul if he was taking his marching orders from OBL.

The same can now be said about the entire Democrat party. They're ALL taking their marching orders from OBL!

It is curious why OBL has done this. Does he think it will help or hurt the dems? And if the later, why would he want that?

{^_^}

187 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:35:47pm
188 Racer X  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:36:13pm

re: #182 DesertSage

re: #171 Killgore Trout

The best line of the GOP debate was when Chris Wallace asked Ron Paul if he was taking his marching orders from OBL.

The same can now be said about the entire Democrat party. They're ALL taking their marching orders from OBL!

It must really suck for them to suddenly realize who their true leader is.

189 Sifty  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:36:16pm

re: #185 Da_Beerfreak

Amen. I'll shoulder the guilt if it means my daughters don't get mutilated and stuck in gunny sacks.

190 cbinflux  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:36:44pm

re: #64 neverquit

Or, even easier, go their their English page.

roundabout dog [round-uh-bout dawg]

Definition Non-professionally produced sculptural art in the form of a dog or other animal made from any material which, often concealed by the darkness of the night, is placed in a public place, preferably in a roundabout.

Background It all started with somebody smashing a dog to pieces, that is, not a living dog but a man-made one. A dog that was part of an art installation, an artistic dog if you may. It was the artist Stina Opitz who had been given the task to decorate one of the many roundabouts that had been built in the Tornby area in the outskirts of Linköping, Sweden. This means that somebody demolished the concrete dog made by Stina Opitz, an act which was given appropriate attention in the local papers. Some time therafter the installation got renewed attention since someone had replaced the smashed (and removed) original dog with a home-made wooden dog. It had rather long legs and was rather flat and ugly but quite encouraging in its own way. Shortly thereafter this wooden dog got a concrete bone to chew on and as time has passed various pieces of art have appeared both in this roundabout and others. The involved amateur artists apparently seem to see no limits as regards choice of material, quality, size or even type of animal. Dogs are also moved from one roundabout to another, and some are stolen or demolished. It is a dog’s life after all, isn’t it? The dogs give rise to everything from cheers to cranky comments on traffic safety. They have also made local bureaucrats and politicians on the cultural scene to threaten with confiscation and institutionalisation of these pieces of art and place them in one – by them – selected roundabout or even in the local museum, suggestions which have upset some of the artists.

NEVER QUIT indeed...

191 jdow-antijihad  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:36:53pm

re: #183 song_and_dance_man

re: #164 Cap'n DOC


re: #153 song_and_dance_man

I hope I don't offend and Romney fans, but the life of mohammed and the tales he told are paralleled in that of Joseph Smith. Way too many convergences if you will. I have bi clue who mohammed claimed he was descended from. His life was not what I'd consider a likely candidate for an angelic visit.


About two weeks ago I made a comment that Mormanism was Islam-lite.

Of course it led to a rather long but diplomatic discourse with a Morman. I haven't changed my view and I cited the reasons you gave, plus gave other parallels to consider.

If only the Mohammedans were as civilized and secular as the Mornons, I believe we could live with them quite nicely.

{^_^}

192 Killgore Trout  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:37:03pm

re: #182 DesertSage

I love watching them squirm.

193 Sifty  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:37:51pm

re: #187 savage_nation

re: #178 Sifty

re: #162 savage_nation

I was staring so hard at her that I forgot how to read. It happens in simple creatures.

She's only a year older than me. Man, watching her onstage was torture when I was a teenager

I think she plays down at Paladino's in the Valley every so often.

194 whiterasta  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:40:47pm

re: #184 Pro-Bush Canuck

I was listening to the Communist Broadcasting Corporation earlier today and they had some leftie idiot saying that of course Trudeau was a raving Jew Hater, it was normal back in those days..

Man, I wish Harper would shut that monster known as the CBC down...

Nothing would make me happier than seeing that bitch, Anna-Marie Tremonti living under a bride in an abandoned refrigerator.

195 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:41:09pm
196 whiterasta  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:43:02pm

Bridge, I meant to say living under a bridge!

Not bride.

PIMF!

197 Geepers  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:43:03pm

savage_nation (#187 ),

I'm more of Joan Jett kinda guy.

JOAN JETT, most famous for the hit "I love rock and roll," belts one out for troops of the 438th Air Expeditionary Group during an Armed Forces Entertainment concert as a forward deployed location supporting Operation Enduring Freedom. U.S. Air Force Photo by Staff Sgt. William Greer

198 justadot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:43:12pm

re: #151 Cap'n DOC

Someone say the Harp Guitar?
Michael Hedges: Because It's There

199 Outrider  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:44:48pm

Several posters have wondered what these dogs look like. Each one is different, being created by different artists.

If anyone is interested just google rondellhund and check them out.

200 DesertSage  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:45:23pm

re: #186 jdow-antijihad

re: #182 DesertSage

re: #171 Killgore Trout

The best line of the GOP debate was when Chris Wallace asked Ron Paul if he was taking his marching orders from OBL.

The same can now be said about the entire Democrat party. They're ALL taking their marching orders from OBL!

It is curious why OBL has done this. Does he think it will help or hurt the dems? And if the later, why would he want that?

{^_^}

He has one goal, that is to defeat the USA. Either the Dems capitulate, which would be a win for him....or we keep fighting, which he hopes will end with a victory for his side.

He's angry that the Dems haven't convinced a majority of American people to capitulate yet, so he ridicules them for not trying to lose fast enough.
It's not like the Dems aren't trying to do his bidding, it's just that us dern conservatives are standing in their way.

201 Geepers  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:46:26pm
Several posters have wondered what these dogs look like. Each one is different, being created by different artists.

If anyone is interested just google rondellhund and check them out.

202 Bob the Scot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:46:26pm

re 195 song and dance
It becomes worse when the sons of Esau married the daughters of Ismael
Then it becomes two reasons for strife

203 Thanos  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:46:37pm

re: #173 JammieWearingFool

CBS says Osama is in Chitral, Pakistan

Vaporize the neighborhood.


Again? That's not bloody likely. He might be somewhere in the Chitral valley, but not in Chitral.
Chitrali's are a slightly different sect, and mostly Hazara. They don't care for the likes of Bin Laden

See here
[Link: noblesseoblige.org...]

204 BenZacharia  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:47:04pm

re: #197 Geepers

Buck and I are wondering where the f*ck you are.

205 Outrider  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:47:29pm

re: #190 cbinflux
Oops. I didn't see your post before I entered rondellhund in my post 199. Mea culpa

206 NY Nana  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:47:31pm

Has anyone seen the public service spots on Foxnews for the troops to stay the course? There was just one from the mother of a hero who gave his life in Iraq...she was breathtaking in her strength of conviction and decency..this is the organization behind it. Bravo! Bet the MSM will not touch them with a barge pole, the cretins.

207 Beobachter  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:47:47pm

re: #152 Kreuzueber Halbmond

re: #139 savage_nation

Woof. I heard that Texas has opened the roads here to Mexican trucks, and that they could be on our roads by tomorrow. What think ya?

Yes, I have heard the same. But they say that there is nothing to worry about, because their trucks are just like ours.

What about the DRIVERS?

208 Bob the Scot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:47:57pm

oops . i meant esau married the daughters. sorry

209 Thanos  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:47:59pm

re: #195 song_and_dance_man

re: #175 Bob the Scot


In his 87 Thanos has hit the beginnings of the problem between the arabs and the Jews

We come to the culmination of a great mystery that is at the heart of this clash of civilizations. Bush had it right when he said this Gobal War on Terror ( I read that as a war against Islam) was a conflict between good and evil. The seed of Isaac and Ismael have been battling for the right of inheritance for millennia. However the promise is to Isaac and his seed, both those of the natural and those who have been grafted it, as brother Paul has said. The seed of Ismael intend to take the promise by force because they think it was theirs to begin with having been the firstborn of Abraham. But the important thing to consider is that Ishmael was born of Hagar and not Sarah, and Sarah's son was the son of promise and it was the faith of Abraham that conceived the child.

Just remember, I wasn't the genius here, that was John of Damascus speaking during the crusades.

210 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:48:29pm
211 Bob the Scot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:49:23pm

Ill be some of you guys really know the Guitar!

212 Bob the Scot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:51:34pm

yes, Thanos i know. but at least you see the history in current events!

213 cbinflux  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:51:45pm

re: #205 Outrider
It's a big thread, no worries.

214 jdow-antijihad  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:52:19pm

re: #210 song_and_dance_man

re: #191 jdow-antijihad


re: #183 song_and_dance_man

re: #164 Cap'n DOC

re: #153 song_and_dance_manI hope I don't offend and Romney fans, but the life of mohammed and the tales he told are paralleled in that of Joseph Smith. Way too many convergences if you will. I have bi clue who mohammed claimed he was descended from. His life was not what I'd consider a likely candidate for an angelic visit.

About two weeks ago I made a comment that Mormanism was Islam-lite. Of course it led to a rather long but diplomatic discourse with a Morman. I haven't changed my view and I cited the reasons you gave, plus gave other parallels to consider.

If only the Mohammedans were as civilized and secular as the Mornons, I believe we could live with them quite nicely.

{^_^}


One can take any religion and make the same equivocation. Islam is the only 'religion' that acts as a beast and whose followers claim it it the will of their god to kill. Their have been other 'gods' who required human sacrifice and my hunch is that Allah is related to, if not indeed, Molech or Ba'al.

One can take Christianity and declare "If only people were more Christian" ahd have some sense to it.

One CANNOT take Mohammedanism and declare "If only people believed more in the Qur'an's teachings" and expect a civilized result.

There is no equivalance here, moral or otherwise.

{^_^}

215 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:52:22pm
216 Geepers  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:52:50pm

BenZacharia (#204),

Didn't know he was coming in tonight. Hey BA!

Be out in the morning. Got the truck (partially) loaded up. And three racks of (Lizard donated) beef ribs ready to go.

217 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:54:07pm
218 Bob the Scot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:54:29pm

i am beginning to think that you have some knowledge of that land in those days. song and dance

219 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:54:30pm
220 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:57:09pm
221 cbinflux  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:57:11pm

re: #217 savage_nation

And the truck maint. is NOT THE SAME.

222 Bob the Scot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:58:51pm

Yes i was right, song and dance, you do have the history, as it is written
down, of the two sides!

223 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:58:53pm
224 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 6:59:30pm
225 cbinflux  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:01:15pm

re: #224 savage_nation

IIRC, AAA and others predict major problems and deaths.

/Cha-chingo!

226 cbinflux  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:02:12pm

re: #225 cbinflux

Imagine their skill and exp. levels on ice and snow!

227 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:03:32pm
228 jdow-antijihad  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:06:36pm

re: #220 song_and_dance_man

Indeed. 100% I'd say.

{^_^}

229 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:06:57pm
230 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:07:18pm
231 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:07:24pm
232 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:09:02pm
233 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:10:06pm
234 Bob the Scot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:12:06pm

Thought i had misspoke my self on that, but you are right, thank you. we are in agreement i think! Song and Dance, and again. nice to see some that agrees with me in part at least.

235 lookingup  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:15:07pm

The Mexican truck will allow contraband to say in complete control of a given dirver. It most certainly will make it easier to fill orders.

236 Bob the Scot  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:16:04pm

Maybe my drug shipments will get here on time now. lol!

237 grumpy old codger  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:24:27pm

Life's a bitch, mo, get used to it. And pass the word to your moon worshipping followers.

238 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:28:02pm
According to police, the woman - described as a devout Muslim with a family - was not part of any militant networks. She did not say that she would personally kill Lars Vilks but she encouraged others to do so.

“There are a lot of people on the internet expressing this same will and intention,” said Lund.

So tell me why we let this group in our country here?

We have laws against inciting to violence.

239 waza  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:35:27pm

Isn't a crime with religious intent a hate crime so shouldn't the people giving death threats be charged with a hate crime or would that be racist?

240 FishFearMe  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:37:38pm

To me, as someone who is not as as educated or well-travelled as many of my fellow Lizards, just sittin' on the sidelines and reading LGF is kinda like getting a continuing education in many ways. The commentary is beyond reproach and unparralelled in the quality of its content. To all of you, I say thank you from the bottom of my Redneck heart (tm). Maybe soon I shall seek guidance from some of you so I may learn on my own (from web sites and the like) that you recommend, to further enrich the data base that is my brain. So if I seem pushy (or just plain stupid), please don't take it that way (except maybe the stupid part) as I am on a quest to learn as much from you as is humanly possible. Please expect many questions in the future. Again, gracias, amigos.

241 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:54:51pm

Lizardoid Community -

For what it is worth - which may NOT be much considering recent history - SUPPORT SWEDEN! They might have gotten a RECENT Clue-Bat about what is TRULY facing them - AND - it looks like the clue-bat has swung quite NEAR HOME!, Yes, all of y'all - of the Third Way - Pay "Plucking" Attention!
/channeling the late great Frank Perdue!

-S-

242 David IV of Georgia  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:56:50pm

re: #97 Geepers

lookingup (#92),

Prior to 9-11 how many of us knew the depth of evil this religion brings to the world?
Me.

I knew, but thought it would stay over there. Now that Satan's Best™ has come to me, I will do whatever I can to see it gone or die trying—unless of course they offer me a 2.5% tax rate and no interest.

243 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:57:02pm

i would chose most dogs over most moslems

244 WimbledonWomble  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 7:59:05pm

re: #243 nyc redneck

i would chose most dogs over most moslems

I don't understand what Muslims have against dogs. Man's best friend, you know. It must mean they hate dogs because they hate humanity.

245 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:01:01pm

re: #240 FishFearMe

FFM -

Being a Lizard is like - Continuing Education - One can NEVER know all that there is. At best it is a commitment to learn all that all y'all can, and respond accordingly.

-S-

246 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:04:30pm

re: #244 WimbledonWomble

"Wim-Wob"

Melech - the Wonder Shepherd agrees with all y'all.

-S-

247 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:14:20pm

re: #239 waza

It is just a crime. "Hate" crimes are a slippery slope, look how the Islamics claim themselves victims of "Hate" crimes.

"Hate" crime requires what amounts to "Brain Police".

I think the whole concept is bad.

248 Ackomanyuki  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 8:31:21pm

re: #216 Geepers

Geepers,

I got your message over at the South Dakota/Hezb-u-allah Senator thread. I didn't see it till I got to a laptop at home. My handheld won't download entire threads, so I missed your post this afternoon. Anyhow, I noticied the Barbeque announcement a couple of weeks back, then tried to get to the site and noticed the membership list had been pared down from 72 to 24 members. Weird because I had just been to the site the day before after getting an email from the account from Cartman asking everyone how they veiwed some of the recent craziness. In any case I can't make it. Wish I could. I will reapply with my old email so if you will put me back on the list for future events. Good luck this weekend to you all all the Minions at the party and keep your powder dry.

249 EtNorskTroll  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 9:17:29pm

re: #40 savage_nation

re: #32 gibsonz

Islam,the 13 hundred year plague with no cure in sight.

Oh, I think there is a cure.

Oh Yeah....THAT will put the fear of GOD into you, when you see one of those babies going of in your north 40!

I do not think it is a question anymore of whether America will nuke Mecca and Medina to ashes...but whether all the countries of the world will join in or not when America does.

If anyone out there in Lizard land wanted to see Meccah or Medina for historical reasons, now might be a good time to do so.

/It probably won't be there next summer.

OPENING SOON NEXT SUMMER IN SAUDI ARABIA: The 'holeiest' places on the planet!

~Norsk Troll

250 Dustyvet  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 9:19:10pm

re: #41 WimbledonWomble

Islamistoids have so many buttons to push that it's almost a joke. They are all buttons, and pretty much nothing else. We have not yet seen the "anti-Islam" equivalent of "Piss Christ," but we will. Then we'll see something interesting. Christ in the Christianity is greater than Mohammed is in Islam, as Christ is one part of the trinity that makes up God, while Mohammed is a prophet to Muslims. So nothing yet has risen (descended?) to the level of "Piss Christ." But, obviously, we have seen many times the outrage for relatively innocuous and silly depictions of Mohammed in Denmark and now Sweden. Some artist/provocateur will eventually go all the way and put the name of Allah in dung along with an image of Mohammed eating it, and maybe this will then be similar to the offensiveness of a "Piss Christ." Then we'll see the reaction and can compare the two.

Artists are valuable, when they are completely uncensored, encumbered by PC inhibitions and unafraid of the possibility of death threats. They reveal the truth of a culture or sub-culture, not so much in the work itself but in the reaction. When the equivalent of "Piss Christ" comes out, the cockroaches will REALLY come out of the woodwork. It won't be pretty, but it will be revealing.

Can you say ''out of touch with reality''?

251 rtheyserius  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 9:55:37pm
"Indeterminate people, from a broad strata of diverse origins, with no connections to terrorism."

Right. Could be anyone.

Quakers... Hindus... Buddhists... Jews... Christians... Taoists... Nature worshippers... students of comparative mythologies... tinkers... tailors... soldiers... spies... family pets.... Let's see... did we leave anyone out?

Nope. No connections whatsoever. It's puzzling!

252 Mich-again  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 10:18:09pm

Its not even a dog. Its a Liger. Geeze. Anyone can see that.

253 doubledip  Fri, Sep 7, 2007 11:13:46pm
According to police, the woman - described as a devout Muslim with a family - was not part of any militant networks. She did not say that she would personally kill Lars Vilks but she encouraged others to do so.

A non-militant Muslim encourages others to kill....how "non-militant" of her.

254 sheik yer'mami  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:52:18am

Me thinks Sweden needs more roundabout dogs, what say you?

Let the dogs out!

Round the Muhammdan headbangers up and ship 'em out![Link: sheikyermami.com...]

255 sheik yer'mami  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:56:40am

The Piss Koran, how about that? Which art gallery gave a 15.000.00 dollar grant to the piss-Christ 'artist'?

I demand they give me at least ten times more, considering the security risk and inflation...

But I'll do it, just let me know when and where I can put it on display.

256 AW  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:27:25am

Welcome to Dar al-Islam, Sweden.

257 TS  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 5:37:01am

They set newsstands on fire a couple of days ago, not that that compares, but it shows escalation...

258 TS  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 5:47:48am

There is another story there on the sidebar saying that a school principal in southern Sweden has banned pupils from wearing shirts that have the Swedish flag on them in school pictures because it is 'racist'. WTF?
[Link: www.thelocal.se...]

259 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 7:20:26am

"Our followers 'must live in peace until strong enough to wage jihad'"


One of the world’s most respected Deobandi scholars believes that aggressive military jihad should be waged by Muslims “to establish the supremacy of Islam” worldwide.
Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani argues that Muslims should live peacefully in countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam, only until they gain enough power to engage in battle.


[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

260 Ojoe  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 7:22:00am

re: #249 EtNorskTroll

Well. I want this conflict OVER. I have 2 boys, they are rapidly growing up and approaching fighting age. And I hope to God they don't have to suffer or even die to stop this plague. If I were able, I'd wipe this "islam" off the planet in the quickest way possible.

Because, as humans, we can't go on with it. It will kill us, or change us into something not human. Either way, if we don't eliminate "islam" we are finished as a species of which I would want to be a member.

So your post with it's hinting of forces in the nucleus, stands in my mind, and is not deleted there.

261 Ojoe  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 7:22:17am

God help us all.

262 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 7:24:05am

Pro-jihad books "inundating" London libraries


[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

263 Goosio  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 8:12:22am

The characterization of Mohammed as a dog is an insult to dogs everywhere.

264 opnion  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 8:16:54am

Islam inverts so many tenets of other mainstream religions.
I am always struck by the irony of comments by parents of some Muslim arrested for terrorism.
Invariably you hear from the father or the mother with the full bag on, "Mohamad could not be guilty.He is religious" Bingo, thats the problem, their book and their clerics tell them to wage Jihad (not inner struggle.you know the other kind) against Infidels. The death god, Allah blesses them for honor killings, stonings, bombings, fermale mutilatin etc.
Shout out to every liberal in denial.They want to kill you too. Actually especially you, beacuse secularism to them is even worse than Judaism or Christianity.
The Troops that Lefties so much love to disparage are far and away their betters.The troops understand honor & are the only thing standing between leftists and the head choppers.

265 Owl  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 10:30:15am

Two things...

#1. The left is not a friend of America, not a friend of Lizards, and not a friend of Liberty, period.
#2. As American Patriots, each one of us should decide right here, right now - that we are going to turn the tide in this country and make a difference in how future generations see our beloved Land. We have a job to do - and that job is to be more patriotic than ever, to show our love for Liberty more than ever, and to crush the evil of liberalism until it is NO MORE. And the time is not tomorrow....not next week...not next year....

.......................the time is now, people.


My country,' tis of thee,
sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing;
land where my fathers died,
land of the pilgrims' pride,
from every mountainside let freedom ring!


Our fathers' God, to thee,
author of liberty, to thee we sing;
long may our land be bright
with freedom's holy light;
protect us by thy might, great God, our King.

We will forever regret letting the time of " now or never " pass us by.


LIZARDS, CONSERVATIVES, PATRIOTS............we must all work together to win..........this............war.


God bless you all, and esp. you Charles. We love you and admire you. With all due respect, you are leading one of the greatest bands of liberty loving people this country has to offer. Lead on, Sir...lead on.

266 DockScience  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 10:43:55am

The elephant in the room really IS invisible to those who afraid to even think it might be there.

267 cry of defiance and not of fear  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:43:45pm

#259 Dustyvet: I was about to post when I saw you'd put up the link on JW to this series of reports appearing today in THE TIMES (London) about yet another sect of Islam which doesn't fit the reassuring label (to dhimmis) of 'moderate' Islam.

I've spent hours perusing the Readers' Comments on the TIMES pages (the paper has been doing very acute reports over the past two days about mosques and their teachings) and it's quite heartening. There are hundreds for each article and clearly many people are not only knowledgeable about Islam (right down to Muhammad's domestic life), they are enraged, demanding arrests, deportations and an end to any and all accommodation with Moslems and their demands.

I don't share the notion that this has to end in nuclear strikes at all; I see Islam withering on the vine well before this century is out. Islam is not just up against all the allurements of our modern, materialist world or our weaponry; there's also the withering power of facts and truth through all media channels: internet, books, tv, radio. I always find that once people are given the facts about the ideology's doctrines, its history of conquest and despoilation, the life of Muhammad and the degradation of Sharia law, astonishment, anger and then determined resistance set in. There's also the ricochet effect that so many Moslems know so little of these facts themselves that once they're 'enlightened,' their disillusionment with Islam begins and usually leads to their leaving it. This is why LGF, JihadWatch and DhimmiWatch are so important. I see links to these sites and books like TRUTH ABOUT MUHAMMAD and SWORD OF THE PROPHET or LONDONISTAN all the time now in English newspapers. This won't end in darkness, but in a new day for millions.


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