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Sat, Sep 8, 2007 at 11:34:07 am PDT

In the New York Times’ latest article on the German terror plot uncovered this week, they reveal that the detonators found by police came from Syria.

Mr. Beckstein said the nationality of some of the other suspects was still unclear, and two are only known by their aliases, making it impossible to know their origins or whereabouts. He declined to identify by name any of the suspects still at large but said that two other suspects were known to have spent time in Lebanon and Syria and that the detonators found in Tuesday’s raids had come from Syria.

(Hat tip: elphidelphi.)

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1 ZionistYoungster  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:35:06am

That proves we have to talk with Syria!

/dennis the kucini-menace

2 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:35:30am
3 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:37:29am
In the New York Times’ latest article on the German terror plot uncovered this week, they reveal that the detonators found by police came from Syria.

Which in turn means that Iran is behind this one. Syria doesn't as much as take a dump without permission from Iran.

4 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:40:38am

Nancy Pelosi will straighten everything out.

5 licdiv2  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:40:45am

The dots are being connected. Syria and Iran everyone can see you.

6 ConservativeAtheist  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:41:25am

Maybe Kucinich dropped the detonators off on his way back from Syria.

7 Airedale  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:41:27am

re: #1 ZionistYoungster

That proves we have to talk with Syria!

/dennis the kucini-menace


Default Dennis said they can be our friends...
Just like the Taliban

8 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:41:32am

At least they were't made in China. Theirs contain lead.

9 Airedale  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:42:47am

re: #3 Honorary Yooper

In the New York Times’ latest article on the German terror plot uncovered this week, they reveal that the detonators found by police came from Syria.

Which in turn means that Iran is behind this one. Syria doesn't as much as take a dump without permission from Iran.

..which actually means;

Who's fault is it really ?

10 Jack D. Ripper  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:43:24am

Have Plan-R radioed to the Wing.

11 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:44:03am

Iran.

12 ParanoidPyro  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:44:23am

Well, Iran (I'm sorry, "Syria") is pissed at Germany for not taking the Holocaust far enough...althought, of course, the Holocaust didn't happen, it's a zionist conspiracy...and so was this bomb plot.

Do not question the Mahdi of Iran!

13 Bill Amos  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:45:19am

Thompson urges no letup in terror fight By MIKE GLOVER, Associated Press Writer

CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa - Republican Fred Thompson said Saturday people around the world are looking for any signs the U.S. is relenting in combating Islamic radicals.

"It is extremely important that we not show weakness," said Thompson, wrapping up his initial campaign swing in Iowa after entering the presidential race last week. "We must send a message to friends and foes alike that we are determined."

During the three-day visit to Iowa, where precinct caucuses traditionally mark the start of the nominating season, the actor and former Tennessee senator called for a stepped-up effort in the global fight against terrorism.

`We have yet to come to terms fully with the threat that Islamic fundamentalism presents to this country," Thompson said. "The whole world is watching and waiting now, friends and foes alike, to see how we are going to react to the pressure they are going to put on us."

Thompson sought to keep the focus on terrorism and Osama bin Laden after he referred on Friday to the hunt for the al-Qaida leader as "symbolism." The candidate worked hard to put that remark behind him by toughening his support for the war.

"We are in a conflict with people who are trying to get their hands on the most destructive weapons known to man," Thompson said. "They are without rules and without conscience."

Thompson ended his Iowa appearances with a rally attended by about 200 backers in Davenport. With the Mississippi River as a backdrop, he expressed optimism that the country was up to the challenges in a dangerous world.

"It's in our blood, it's in our tradition," said Thompson. "We do whatever's necessary, hitch up our britches and come out the other end."

Thompson sought to play up his anti-Washington pitch by saying, "I'm concerned about the incompetence that we see from one end of our government to the other."

He said it was important to get bin Laden, but "don't think that's going to solve the problem."

Thompson made his pitch to a noisy crowd of about 400, the largest of his opening swing. He sounded his conservative, anti-Washington theme, telling activists that is the message he has offered since his first campaign in 1994. It was a dig at rivals such as former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney, who have been accused of flip-flopping on abortion, gay rights and other issues.

"We're at a crossroads in many respects," Thompson said. "We need to choose the path of more strength, more determination, more prosperity and more opportunity than we ever have before."

Mary Bowman of Cedar Rapids remained uncommitted, but impressed, after hearing Thompson. "I think he has the charisma," she said. "The message is wonderful."

Meeting with reporters after his rally, Thompson rejected suggestions that Republicans are in a tough fight in next year's election, with an unpopular president and war.

"Things change rapidly. We don't know who the nominees are going to be yet. It depends on which Republican," he said.

14 Airedale  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:45:35am

re: #10 Jack D. Ripper

Have Plan-R radioed to the Wing.


LOL

15 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:45:36am

re: #10 Jack D. Ripper

All your base are mine.

16 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:46:41am

re: #10 Jack D. Ripper

Have Plan-R radioed to the Wing.

"P-O-E, O-P-E. It's got to be here somewhere!"

17 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:47:47am

You know, we are going to have to attack Iran and Syria at some point. Unless we want nuclear terrorists, probably both Hezb'Allah and al Qaeda, plus Iran as the regional superpower with all the surrounding Arab states in a desperate race to get/buy nukes of their own.


Think how many people wouldn't have died if France had invaded Germany when Hitler re-militarized the Ruhr.

18 Airedale  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:47:57am

re: #14 Airedale

re: #10 Jack D. Ripper


Have Plan-R radioed to the Wing.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

LOL

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

19 opnion  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:50:34am

Congressman Kucinich had this long discussion with 'His Excellency"
Assad, so all is well. Nothing to fear here.
OK Maybe Syria is in on the plot to kill a lot of people. The bottom line is we put panties on a guys head in prison.
Do you know what that does to a pious Muslims self image?
Well, he must honor kill his daughter and quit dating his goat for week.
So you see we made them do it.

20 EC Marm  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:51:51am

re: #13 Bill Amos
Fred!

21 Airedale  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:52:14am

re: #16 Ward Cleaver

re: #10 Jack D. Ripper


Have Plan-R radioed to the Wing.

"P-O-E, O-P-E. It's got to be here somewhere!"


here try this
R-O-P

22 EC Marm  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:52:51am

re: #10 Jack D. Ripper

Have Plan-R radioed to the Wing.


MAJOR MANDRAKE
Plan-R?

GENERAL JACK D. RIPPER
Are you hard of hearing, Major?

MAJOR MANDRAKE
No, sir. Plan-R to be radioed to the Wing.

23 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:53:53am
24 grumpy old codger  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:54:44am

Not to worry! ElBaradei (sp?) will shortly announce that these detonators were shipped to Germany only to clean out clogged drains. Remember, you are growing sleepy, there's nothing to worry about, islamofascists are your friends, Iran wants peace...
ZZZ!

25 Airedale  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:55:22am

re: #23 Killgore Trout

Da Jooos...
Report: Israeli troops disguised as Palestinian grocers kidnap Gilad Shalit’s kidnapper

Bwaahahhahaaa!

hey,
thats not fair !

26 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:58:48am

re: #25 Airedale

It's amazing. Even though the Israeli political system has gone weak it's nice to know the IDF and Mossad can still do their jobs.

27 abolitionist  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 11:59:10am

re: #23 Killgore Trout

Looking forward to the new thread :)

28 Airedale  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:00:28pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

re: #25 Airedale

It's amazing. Even though the Israeli political system has gone weak it's nice to know the IDF and Mossad can still do their jobs.


The spirit of Entebbe (sp) still burns in many especially if this Debka link is true;


29 EC Marm  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:00:28pm
30 GreenDroll  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:01:54pm

Why do tin hat dictators still shop in Russia?
[Link: www.debka.com...]
You would think that Iraq's Russian armament had kept them safe from the infidel invaders!

31 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:02:04pm

I remember reading in several places that the bombing of the disco in Germany (for which Libya was bombed) was actually done by Syria but the U.S. didn't go after Syria because it was at the time backed by the U.S.S.R..

What's it feel like to always be someone's bitch, Syria?

32 Ma Sands  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:02:28pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

Oh! Oh! Oh! I've been waiting for something like that to be done, for a long time! Oh, how exciting! ! ! :)

33 Frank Veracity  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:02:32pm

We are now in the process of repeating the train wreck of appeasement that led to WWII. I wonder if we'll be lucky enough to survive this time? And if we do manage to survive I wonder if we'll take the lesson seriously enough to keep it from happening again?

I often wonder how the appeasement at all costs crowd would handle a schoolyard bully. I know from my own experience that the only way to deal with a bully is to fight back and keep on fighting until he decides that being a bully is not worth it.

34 grumpy old codger  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:02:59pm

re: #23 Killgore Trout

Good news. I hope that Shalit and the others are still alive. I hope that Olmert won't spring this guy as a "friendly" measure without getting the hostages back. If they are dead, and I hope not, then this animal should be locked up until, well, forever.
Congrats to the IDF. I wish the Europeans would get wise to what's going on.

35 Airedale  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:03:03pm

re: #28 Airedale

re: #26 Killgore Trout


re: #25 Airedale

It's amazing. Even though the Israeli political system has gone weak it's nice to know the IDF and Mossad can still do their jobs.


The spirit of Entebbe (sp) still burns in many especially if this Debka link is true;


blockquote>
soory, wrong link;
Advanced Russian Air Defense Missile Cannot Protect Syrian and Iranian Skies


[Link: www.debka.com...]

36 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:03:27pm

re: #29 EC Marm

Nah. The one on the left is taller, the one on the right is much shorter. Back to the PhotoShop with that one.

37 Piglet-U93  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:03:41pm

OT: Former Muslims

3 Ex-Terrorists

More found here

38 ZionistYoungster  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:04:13pm

re: #33 Frank Veracity

I often wonder how the appeasement at all costs crowd would handle a schoolyard bully. I know from my own experience that the only way to deal with a bully is to fight back and keep on fighting until he decides that being a bully is not worth it.

Frank, you just hit on the reason why schools today look the way they do.

39 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:05:15pm

re: #32 Ma Sands

I suspect we might be seeing more of the "disappearances".

re: #28 Airedale
I was just reading up on that. I usually ignore debka but they might be onto something.

40 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:05:55pm

It's turning into another Dr. Strangelove thread. Did everybody know that it was supposed be made as a drama ,from the book, Red Alert, (like Fail Safe), but that Kubrick decided to turn it into a black comedy. And he got George C. Scott to go along?

41 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:06:16pm

re: #33 Frank Veracity

Appeasement?

Dig up Saddam and ask him about that. And, all the jihadi's eating a dirt sandwich in Afghanistan.

42 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:07:23pm

re: #23 Killgore Trout

Da Jooos...
Report: Israeli troops disguised as Palestinian grocers kidnap Gilad Shalit’s kidnapper

Bwaahahhahaaa!

How does one disguise oneself as a Palestinian grocer?

43 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:07:54pm

re: #31 MandyManners

What's it feel like to always be someone's bitch, Syria?

LOL, Mandy, you have such a way with words.

44 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:08:13pm

Rabbi stabbed on street in Frankfurt bank quarter

Police say 42-year-old rabbi was approached on street by man he believed was speaking Arabic; assailant pulled out a pocket knife, uttered a death threat in German and stabbed him in abdomen before fleeing the scene

45 Ward Cleaver  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:08:23pm

re: #42 MandyManners

re: #23 Killgore Trout


Da Jooos...
Report: Israeli troops disguised as Palestinian grocers kidnap Gilad Shalit’s kidnapper

Bwaahahhahaaa!


How does one disguise oneself as a Palestinian grocer?

Yeah, that's a good one.

46 grayp  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:08:39pm

re: #42 MandyManners

I dunno, but they'll probably let 'em vote in Canada...

47 EC Marm  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:08:44pm

re: #36 Cap'n DOC

Nah. The one on the left is taller, the one on the right is much shorter. Back to the PhotoShop with that one.

Dinnerjacket is standing on an 18" tall goats' milk crate. I guess I shoulda shown that.

48 Airedale  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:09:37pm

re: #39 Killgore Trout

re: #32 Ma Sands

I suspect we might be seeing more of the "disappearances".

re: #28 Airedale
I was just reading up on that. I usually ignore debka but they might be onto something.


It could also be "misinformation bait"
Only Basher and the dinner jacket know for sure.

49 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:09:57pm

re: #47 EC Marm

Well? :o)

50 ZionistYoungster  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:11:04pm

re: #42 MandyManners

How does one disguise oneself as a Palestinian grocer?

You just take a few cabbages and tomatoes and throw them at the IDF troops.

/paleselfdestructinians 'r' us

51 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:11:49pm

re: #43 Ward Cleaver

re: #31 MandyManners


What's it feel like to always be someone's bitch, Syria?

LOL, Mandy, you have such a way with words.

I do, don't I? (Screw modesty.)

52 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:12:22pm

re: #42 MandyManners

I guess it doesn't take much...
Report: IDF kidnaps senior Hamas official

According to the sources, the undercover soldiers were disguised as grocers riding a donkey-pulled wagon. Sources said they disguised force even chatted with locals near the crossing.
...
Al-Kadi was working his land when the disguised force approached and kidnapped him. The Palestinian sources reported that the operation went quickly and smoothly. The undercover force left Rafah with al-Kadi, and brought him to Israel.

Donkey, an empty wagon and some of those funny nose glasses with the mustache attached.

53 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:12:50pm

re: #45 Ward Cleaver

A blood-stained apron?

54 Airedale  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:13:35pm

re: #50 ZionistYoungster

re: #42 MandyManners


How does one disguise oneself as a Palestinian grocer?

You just take a few cabbages and tomatoes and throw them at the IDF troops.

/paleselfdestructinians 'r' us


Maybe they were wearing their "KaBOB Evans" sous outfits

55 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:13:51pm

re: #46 grayp

re: #42 MandyManners

I dunno, but they'll probably let 'em vote in Canada...

Good tie-in!

56 pat  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:13:56pm

Gee and Syria and Germany are such close allies too.

57 Piglet-U93  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:14:06pm
58 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:14:17pm

re: #50 ZionistYoungster

re: #42 MandyManners


How does one disguise oneself as a Palestinian grocer?

You just take a few cabbages and tomatoes and throw them at the IDF troops.

/paleselfdestructinians 'r' us

LOL!

59 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:15:00pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

Tricky!

60 pat  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:15:13pm

re: #40 Ward Cleaver

My Favorite Movie

61 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:15:24pm

Did they forget to remove the 'Made in Syria' sticker on the bottom of the detonators?

62 Ma Sands  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:17:34pm

re: #46 grayp

Now, that is paying attention to the big picture. :)

63 Carol Herman  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:17:38pm

Couldn't come about with Olmert being smart!

And, yes, Labor had to deal with its own incompetent, Amir (the putz) Peretz.

When another election held such a poor showing, as Labor's did, in the last round against Olmert, Avram Mitzna RESIGNED.

But the thug Amir 'the putz,' instead made such a deal. So that Olmert could actually cobble his government together with weak ministers; who wouldn't dare threaten their own chairs.

While Bibi got a dozen "leftovers." Remember, Arik Sharon had already stroked.

And, yes, folks, Israel needs to play to the hostile media. So, again, Olmert lets enough negatives comes his way, that it keeps Israel safe.

Meanwhile, if you think Israelis are "victims," have I got news for you.

Here? You only hear one part of the argument, from others. But in Israel arguments are part of the fresh air.

And, Ehud Barak? Just made himself a 'condendah,' again.

In Israel? Well, military careers can manage to regain altitude, even after the press and the lawyers try to spit them out.

What a joy reading this stuff IS! And, the meaning of IS never gets better than that!

64 Ma Sands  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:18:38pm

re: #50 ZionistYoungster

Ha! :)

65 Ma Sands  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:20:13pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

...and! --a big white (or green) apron! :)

66 turn  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:21:45pm

Maybe we could get the IDF to stick those detonators up Kucinich's arse and send him back for a short visit with Assad ...

67 Sizzlack  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:21:47pm

What happened to that old Pelosi phrase...
"The Road to Peace Leads Through Damascus" bullsh*t

I guess Peace in this case means Death and Destruction

68 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:25:34pm

#52 Killgore

This account doesn't say anything about donkeys and carts. Wish I knew the full, true story. But anyhoo . . . this is the Israel that we all know and love! KOL HAKAVOD! (Be on the lookout for Muslims seething and raging, as their honor has been . . . dishonored.)

[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

69 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:27:41pm

While Sub-Tropical Storm Gabrielle is a dissappointment, two monster threats to Florida, well developed African waves, near 55&degW and 30&degW.

70 Ma Sands  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:29:01pm

re: #68 American Jewess In Jerusalem

That's a good story, too! :)

71 Airedale  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:30:43pm

ot ( maybe not )

Turkey quizzes Israel on warplane fuel tanks
ANKARA - Turkey has asked Israel for clarification after finding two fuel tanks on its territory near the Syrian border allegedly belonging to Israeli warplanes, a diplomatic source said on Saturday.


Turkey’s top-selling Hurriyet newspaper carried photographs on Saturday of what it said were fuel tanks jettisoned by Israeli F-151s sent to gather intelligence on Syrian installations near the Turkish border.

[Link: www.khaleejtimes.com...]

what if... the IAF has moved F-15's to an undisclosed forward operation base ?

oops

...the world may never know ;)

72 Piglet-U93  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:30:44pm

God Bless Israel

73 pat  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:30:53pm

Romney hits the nail on the head. Bin Laden an evil delusional.
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

74 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:32:11pm

No security at muslim tourney

THE Fiji Muslim Sports Association is setting an example to other sporting bodies by having no security personnel present at their tournament.

Association general secretary Faaiaz Ali said they wanted to show that there shouldn't be any problems associated with sports.

"We have spoken to the players about what they are here for and they all understand," Ali said.

"So we don't have police and security present at the grounds."

I don't get the purpose of this other than mabey they want everyone to remove security from sporting events?

75 pat  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:32:28pm

re: #71 Airedale

"May we have them back please." would be my response.

76 ZionistYoungster  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:33:59pm

OT: DKos do damage control on the OBL-Chomsky romance:

Sorry, Wingnuts, Osama is Not a Leftist. Excerpt:

When someone admits the veracity of Noam Chomsky's social and political analysis, that does not mean they are a leftist.

Yeah, whatEVAH you say...

Kyoto Accord?!?! Bin Laden Transcript Stinks to High Heaven. Excerpt:

Since when has bin Laden taken up the cause of environmentalism?

Something is fishy here

And from the comments:

Osama is dead (5+ / 0-)

Recommended by:
Canadian Reader, Pluto, duha, drmah, deepeco

and this fake transcript was probably written by one of Karl Rove's minions, my guess is that it was written by Henry Hager.

by IhateBush on Fri Sep 07, 2007 at 08:13:44 PM PDT

- "But Rove has resigned!"

- "That's was a Rovian plot too."

Just How Stupid Do They Really Think We Are ?. Excerpts:

For the last few days , the Media has been "advertising" a "Terror Tape" that's on it's way from Osama Bin Laden like it's a new T.V Show on Fox. This monster was responsible for the murder of our American citizens on 911 and is now being touted as some kind of celebrity politician giving a speech. Now, some may contend that what I am about to address is none other than conspiracy theory rantings. I reject that in advance. This is so obvious that it needs no conspiracy theory to accompany it.

The Tape ( Breaking News ! ) OBL Spreads Republican Party Propaganda

"It's Rove. Rove! ROVE, I tells ya! Bring me the tinfoil!"

Tag, for further reading:
www.dailykos.com/tag/osama%20bin%20laden

77 pat  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:34:54pm

re: #74 NJDhockeyfan

Well duh. It is the infidels that need protection from the Muslims. The MSM has made it clear no one gives a damn about Muslim on Muslim violence. That is their culture.

78 Airedale  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:35:23pm

re: #74 NJDhockeyfan


Maybe tyhey think the growing presence of the ROP in that part of the Pacific isn't alarming enough...yet...
Fiji/ Sauva.
a future battle in the COral sea isn't on the horizon

79 Piglet-U93  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:36:50pm

re: #73 pat

Romney hits the nail on the head. Bin Laden an evil delusional.
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

Romney does not get it - Bin Laden is a good* Muslim following the teachings of Mohammad (kill the Infidels).

* from the prespective of Islam.

80 Strike Hornet  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:36:59pm

What?

81 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:37:09pm

re: #76 ZionistYoungster

Rove, you magnificent bastard!

82 Airedale  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:37:29pm

re: #75 pat

re: #71 Airedale

"May we have them back please." would be my response.


Makes me wonder how many tanks fell in Syria if only two in Turkey

83 FQ Kafir  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:37:55pm

Somethings up in Pakistan...

Pakistan's airports have been placed on highest alert, with the threat of a terror attack imminent, officials say.

The government has also banned gatherings of five or more people near Rawalpindi's international airport.

The moves come days before exiled former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, who has a residence in Rawalpindi, is expected to return to the country.

84 wvobiwan  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:39:11pm

Kucinich is obviously a mole for international terrorist organizations - quick, someone check his luggage for Syrian detonators!

85 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:42:13pm

Romancing the Infidel?

The love affair grew when this Islamic Jihadist seduced the Indian Army Jawan in Indo Bangladesh border.

The Special Investigation Team (SIT), probing the blasts that killed 43 people on August 25, is looking into reports that Shahi Rafsanjani, a suspect in the Hyderabad blasts case, had an affair with an Army jawan .

The jawan has been identified as Anand, posted on Indo-Bangladesh border, police said.

86 wvobiwan  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:42:14pm

re: #74 NJDhockeyfan

I think it's a no-brainer - Muslim atheletes don't need protection from their fellow Muslims - unless they're female of course.

87 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:42:23pm

Religion of Peace at work:


Second bombing hits Algeria

At least 17 people were killed and 30 wounded on Saturday by a car bomb in the port of Dellys, 50 miles from Algiers, hospital sources told state news agency Algerie Presse Service.

Algerian President Abdelaziz Bouteflika, fourth from left, prays with others over the coffins of Thursday's victims.

The attack near a coast guard barracks comes after 19 people were killed and 107 wounded on Thursday, when a bomb ripped through a crowd waiting to see Algeria's President Abdelaziz Bouteflika in Batna, east of Algiers, Algerie Presse Service reported.

The French Foreign Ministry issued a statement condemning Saturday's bombing in Dellys and expressing its condolences to the victims' families.

Hospital officials told The Associated Press that all the victims were coast guard officials. The explosion went off during the barracks' morning flag-raising ceremony, AP reported.

88 Highrise  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:44:17pm

re: #79 Piglet-U93


I think there are only 2 candidates willing to even admit that islam is THE problem: Hunter and Tancredo

None of the others will touch the roots of the problem verbally from what I've heard. It wouldn't surprise me if some of them held deeper beliefs that islam is the problem and just aren't saying it outloud. I give the Republicans running for President some kudos for atleast saying the islamist word as the dhimmi people seem to have banned that from their vocabulary. But that won't help us if this is the only vision they see with our problems at home with indoctrination into this cult.

This is why ron paul is actually a dangerous candidate (that has no chance of course) for President. He's clueless on the threat we face and what motivates them. We can't afford that type of bold ignorance.

89 phillygirl  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:50:00pm

But everyone is a Muslim in Algeria. And Bin Laden has told us infidels that if we convert to Islam, everything will be honky dory. Then why did the ROP bomb Algeria twice? Is it because when Muslims "tell the truth," they are actually lying?

90 opnion  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:50:03pm

re: #74 NJDhockeyfan

Islamist events?
The honor killing relay, Twenty meter stoning, tag team genetalia mutulation, goat wrestleing, suicide bombing(Only one event per partcipant), and the ever popular Infidel beheading

91 abolitionist  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:50:09pm

re: #80 Strike Hornet

What?

More specificity, please.

92 bside  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:52:05pm

a few things related:
Germany Gives Syria $45 Million


German federal department of economics encouraging further investment in Iran.
in googlish:
here.
German exports to Iran has more than doubled between 2000 and 2005 after those "moderate" Iranians visited Berlin, quoting Goethe and stuff. While the press railed against those complaining tedious exile Irainians who just wouldn`t want to be satisfied.
and Germany provides -still- financial security guarantees to the companies investing in Iran. Insurancy worth around 5 billion € in February.

93 Pro-Bush Canuck  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:53:11pm

re: #89 phillygirl

But everyone is a Muslim in Algeria. And Bin Laden has told us infidels that if we convert to Islam, everything will be honky dory. Then why did the ROP bomb Algeria twice? Is it because when Muslims "tell the truth," they are actually lying?

Good point. If I convert and become a Sunni, who is gonna protect my ass from my Shi'ite "brothers"? Or vice versa?

94 nyc redneck  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:53:37pm

re: #89 phillygirl

But everyone is a Muslim in Algeria. And Bin Laden has told us infidels that if we convert to Islam, everything will be honky dory. Then why did the ROP bomb Algeria twice? Is it because when Muslims "tell the truth," they are actually lying?

they need a self help group for their uncontrollable urge to kill.

95 ZionistYoungster  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:54:31pm

re: #81 MandyManners

Rove, you magnificent bastard!

I agree. But he's only a cog in a much, much bigger wheel, muhahahahaaa!

[Link: mooreslore.corante.com...]

96 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:56:09pm

Mayor Bloomberg Loves a Parade

Mayor Bloomberg has said that he has no intention of calling off tomorrow's 22nd Annual United American Muslim Day Parade, despite a barrage of calls, emails, and letters asking him to do just that. Opponents of the parade, which will run down Madison Ave. from 41st St. to 27th St., say that it is a threat to national security and insult considering that it is only two days before the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.

Bloomberg said that it would be a "terrible mistake" to implicate a whole group of people for the acts of a few and that Muslims were a vital part of New York. Organizers of the parade said that the protestors were more likely to swell the attendance of the parade as anti-parade sentiments were unifying Muslims around the region.

One of the websites that is protesting the parade and wants the city to revoke its permit is Americans Against Hate. It's leader, Joe Kaufman, says that the parade's organizers are Islamist radicals and that security for the parade should be beefed up due to the extreme threat they pose. Kaufman, who lives in Coral Springs, FL according to amNewYork will be holding a protest rally a block from the end of Sunday's parade at Madison and 26th St.

WTF?

97 Lizardoid  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:57:24pm

OT OT OT

woo hoo ! Registration was open, and I'm iN ! Thrilled, too!

98 missouri boy  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:59:02pm

re: #97 Lizardoid

OT OT OT

woo hoo ! Registration was open, and I'm iN ! Thrilled, too!


Welcome..Lizardiod

99 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:59:17pm

re: #97 Lizardoid

Welcome!

Did you bring beer?

100 abolitionist  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:59:36pm

re: #97 Lizardoid

Welcome, new lizard.

101 swiss winger  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 12:59:51pm

me too!

finally after all these years. time for a celebratory drink.

102 grayp  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:00:44pm

ah! hatchlings! welcome.

103 jcm  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:01:00pm

Knock! Knock!

Who is there?

World War IV.


(III was the Cold War)

104 abolitionist  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:01:30pm

So let me revise that. Welcome new lizards.

105 Shay4l  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:01:55pm

Too bad Syria didn't ally with Egypt instead of Iran. Maybe even *gasp* sign a peace accord with Israel. I'm pretty sure they'd be a lot better off.

106 Bill Amos  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:02:21pm

Cair seething to commence soon

[Link: www.cair.com...]

Cartoon
[Link: www.niacouncil.org...]

Washington DC - The Columbus Dispatch published a cartoon on Tuesday depicting Iran as a sewer on a map of the Middle East with cockroaches crawling out of it. By publishing this racist cartoon, the editors of the Dispatch have insulted and propagated hate against the Iranian American community.

NIAC Board member Dokhi Fassihian sent a letter to the Editors of the Dispatch protesting their action. She wrote: "The bigotry demonstrated by the publication of this cartoon not only betrays the mission to inform your readers, it endangers our country at an extremely sensitive time in our nation's history by serving to further divide us at home and thrust us toward further conflict abroad." See letter to the Columbus Dispatch.

107 Lizardoid  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:03:04pm

re: #99 NJDhockeyfan


I brought beer, I brought pork rinds and anything else that will offend the non-kufr !

108 missouri boy  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:04:55pm

re: #92 bside

Typical...Germany gives aid and moneys to iSLamics...they send back death and destruction.
Why does any western nation (USA are you listening) give anything to iSLamic nations, that are hell bent on our destruction?
This calls for a drink.

109 justnobody  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:05:00pm

re: #105 Shay4l

I wouldn't think that the US would agree to another deal like they had with Egypt. Fake peace with Israel for $2bil each year in aid.

110 missouri boy  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:05:29pm

re: #104 abolitionist

So let me revise that. Welcome new lizards.

Dito!

111 jcm  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:05:53pm

I must do my self appointed duty.

ACTHUNG! HATCHLINGS!
Save yourselves from a nasty bite from a large and ancient lizard.
Read the FAQ.
Read the LGF dictionary.
Read Nekama's Troll Hammer.
And to identify the size of a Lizard and the thickness of the scales click on the LittleGreenFootball next to the nic on a post.

Welcome hatchliings, good posting, good troll hunting.

112 ReaganRepublican  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:06:20pm

re: #37 Piglet-U93

Walid Shoebat for President.

113 Ay, Caramba  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:06:33pm

re: #106 Bill Amos

Cair seething to commence soon

[Link: www.cair.com...]

Cartoon
[Link: www.niacouncil.org...]

Washington DC - The Columbus Dispatch published a cartoon on Tuesday depicting Iran as a sewer on a map of the Middle East with cockroaches crawling out of it. By publishing this racist cartoon, the editors of the Dispatch have insulted and propagated hate against the Iranian American community.

NIAC Board member Dokhi Fassihian sent a letter to the Editors of the Dispatch protesting their action. She wrote: "The bigotry demonstrated by the publication of this cartoon not only betrays the mission to inform your readers, it endangers our country at an extremely sensitive time in our nation's history by serving to further divide us at home and thrust us toward further conflict abroad." See letter to the Columbus Dispatch.

The map seams pretty accurate. What are they bitchin bout?

114 jcm  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:07:17pm

It's a good day. UW is leading Boise State, Moose Drool in hand, beautiful day. It's a good day.

LIFE
LIBERTY
PROPERTY

115 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:07:37pm

Hi there, newbies.

116 Ma Sands  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:08:19pm

re: #106 Bill Amos

"...published a cartoon on Tuesday depicting Iran as a sewer on a map of the Middle East with cockroaches crawling out of it. .."

How apt!

117 nyc redneck  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:08:49pm

re: #96 NJDhockeyfan

Mayor Bloomberg Loves a Parade

Mayor Bloomberg has said that he has no intention of calling off tomorrow's 22nd Annual United American Muslim Day Parade, despite a barrage of calls, emails, and letters asking him to do just that. Opponents of the parade, which will run down Madison Ave. from 41st St. to 27th St., say that it is a threat to national security and insult considering that it is only two days before the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.

Bloomberg said that it would be a "terrible mistake" to implicate a whole group of people for the acts of a few and that Muslims were a vital part of New York. Organizers of the parade said that the protestors were more likely to swell the attendance of the parade as anti-parade sentiments were unifying Muslims around the region.

One of the websites that is protesting the parade and wants the city to revoke its permit is Americans Against Hate. It's leader, Joe Kaufman, says that the parade's organizers are Islamist radicals and that security for the parade should be beefed up due to the extreme threat they pose. Kaufman, who lives in Coral Springs, FL according to amNewYork will be holding a protest rally a block from the end of Sunday's parade at Madison and 26th St.

WTF?


i'm going to this tomorrow. should be an interesting sunday afternoon. btw, something's wrong w/ bloomberg

118 Ma Sands  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:10:12pm

re: #111 jcm

...to identify the size of a Lizard and the thickness of the scales...


Ha! :)

119 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:10:34pm
120 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:10:59pm

re: #117 nyc redneck

did you catch the comment section?

Americans Against Hate is itself a "hate group".

[5] Posted by: guest | September 8, 2007 3:00 PM
Joe Kaufman, Beila Rabinowitz, and FrontPage Magazine

The trifecta of hate mongering. Figures it would be mostly Jews.

[6] Posted by: guest | September 8, 2007 3:02 PM

121 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:11:43pm
122 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:12:53pm
123 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:14:55pm

TAJIKISTAN: IS PRESIDENT RAHMON’S GOVERNMENT ANTI-ISLAMIC?

More than 300 makeshift mosques have been closed recently by authorities in the Tajik capital, Dushanbe, with some of those sites subsequently turned into beauty salons or police offices. These and other clampdowns follow a government ban on Islamic head scarves -- hejab -- in schools, compulsory tests for clerics, and a ban on the fundamentalist Mavlavi religious group.

Government scrutiny of mosques and religious activities has intensified all over the predominantly Muslim republic of Tajikistan.

Authorities in the northern Sughd region have set deadlines for the operators of 350 mosques to get proper licenses or face closure.

heh.

124 grayp  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:15:29pm

David Pryce-Jones has an excellent piece on Syria/Lebanon

After a pretty dismal performance dragged out over these four months, the Lebanese army has finally routed Fatah al-Islam, killed Shakir al-Absi and his deputy, and identified some of the dead terrorists as Saudis and others as men who have fought in Iraq. Between two and three hundred have been killed, about half of them Lebanese soldiers. And meanwhile 40,000 Palestinians have fled from their homes, most probably never to return. Lebanese artillery has turned Nahr al-Bared into the sort of ruin the Russians have made of Grozny in Chechnya.

Lebanon Is Key

125 jcm  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:15:46pm

re: #118 Ma Sands

re: #111 jcm

...to identify the size of a Lizard and the thickness of the scales...


Ha! :)

Don't want the hatching biting into something that might give the a slight nip of correction that would be lethal to a hatchling.

126 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:15:49pm

re: #117 nyc redneck
Hope you'll be taking your camera.

127 Piglet-U93  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:17:53pm

Resource for hatchlings: The List

128 stevieray  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:19:42pm

Sandmonkey is back and blogging again.

129 Piglet-U93  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:20:01pm

re: #112 ReaganRepublican

re: #37 Piglet-U93

Walid Shoebat for President.

If only it was possible.

130 Ma Sands  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:21:22pm

re: #125 jcm

Very wise idea. :)

131 Ay, Caramba  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:22:59pm

re: #123 NJDhockeyfan

WTF? Tajikastan? Is that near ChuckECheeseastan?
good movie

132 ReaganRepublican  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:24:10pm

re: #129 Piglet-U93

If any of the presidential candidates sounded like this, I believe there would be a landslide victory for him. These guys may not be able to lead this country as president but I would settle for them being advisers to our leaders.

133 justnobody  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:24:13pm

re: #124 grayp

Why does the author think that the performance of the Lebanese military in Nahar el-Bared was dismal? Their startegy, and that of the Russians in Chechnya, is exactly what Israel should have been doing in Gaza: expel all of the civillians, shell the place with artillery for a few months until it's flat, and then liberate it.

134 Ma Sands  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:28:06pm

re: #128 stevieray

...sans Grandma...

135 grayp  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:28:41pm

re: #133 justnobody

re: #124 grayp

Why does the author think that the performance of the Lebanese military in Nahar el-Bared was dismal? Their startegy, and that of the Russians in Chechnya, is exactly what Israel should have been doing in Gaza: expel all of the civillians, shell the place with artillery for a few months until it's flat, and then liberate it.


He thinks it took them too long before they finally just did it already.

136 nyc redneck  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:30:36pm

re: #120 NJDhockeyfan

i didn't catch that. ( i'm not surprised. )

137 stevieray  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:30:42pm

re: #134 Ma Sands

re: #128 stevieray

...sans Grandma...

Yes, I saw that. She was an interesting woman.

138 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:33:14pm

There is a new 9-11 website by (UCLR) United Citizens For Legal Reform worthy of a bookmark.

Check it out.

139 nyc redneck  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:33:33pm

re: #121 ploome hineni

re: #117 nyc redneck

whats wrong with Bloomberg?

too much of a fuddy duddy micromanager. ( and i can't take the voice. the up talking at the end of the sentences.)

140 nyc redneck  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:38:23pm

re: #126 Pvt Bin Jammin

re: #117 nyc redneck
Hope you'll be taking your camera.

i'm taking it. no submission is going too. she'll have a lot of good photos to post

141 Piglet-U93  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:42:02pm

re: #132 ReaganRepublican

re: #129 Piglet-U93

If any of the presidential candidates sounded like this, I believe there would be a landslide victory for him. These guys may not be able to lead this country as president but I would settle for them being advisers to our leaders.

Yes, dump Karen Hughes et al.

Not really for kids or Is this for real?

142 Thanos  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:42:39pm

re: #83 FQ Kafir

Somethings up in Pakistan...


Pakistan's airports have been placed on highest alert, with the threat of a terror attack imminent, officials say.

The government has also banned gatherings of five or more people near Rawalpindi's international airport.

The moves come days before exiled former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, who has a residence in Rawalpindi, is expected to return to the country.

There was a political discussion near the airport between PPI and PML-Q, both somewhat mainstream parties, that escalated into a grenade fight the other day. This is the crackdown for Nawaz's arrival, at which point he might, or might not be arrested... supposedly 700 busses are chartered to meet him as he lands.

143 Thanos  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:43:29pm

re: #128 stevieray

Sandmonkey is back and blogging again.

That's great news!

144 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:43:32pm

re: #140 nyc redneck

re: #126 Pvt Bin Jammin


re: #117 nyc redneck
Hope you'll be taking your camera.

i'm taking it. no submission is going too. she'll have a lot of good photos to post

That's great! Wish I could go. I haven't been to NYC since way before 9/11. I's especially like to be there Tuesday morning.

145 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:45:06pm

Muslim Countries Demand Sweden Change Laws

Ambassadors from Muslim countries have indicated that they intend to present the Swedish prime minister with a list of demands when they meet for talks on Friday.

Fredrik Reinfeldt invited the ambassadors from 20 Muslim countries to government offices on Friday following a wave of protests from Muslim countries after the publication of a caricature of Muhammad in local newspaper Nerikes Allehanda.

Reinfeldt's press secretary Oscar Hållén was unable to say which countries had confirmed their attendance.

Egyptian ambassador Mohamed Sotouhi told news agency TT that he and a group of fellow ambassadors had agreed on a list of measures Sweden needed to take if it was to secure a long-term solution to the Muhammad cartoon controversy.

According to Sotouhi, "comprehensive measures" were required if Sweden was to prevent some "amateur artist" from reawakening tensions every other month.

"We want to see action, not just nice words. We have to push for a change in the law," he said.

"Muslims need legal protection against the desecration of the Prophet Muhammad, maybe something similar to the protection enjoyed by Jews and homosexuals."

Sounds like veiled threats to me.

I hope the Swedes have enough testosterone to tell the ambassadors to kiss their Swedish asses.

146 Piglet-U93  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:49:15pm

re: #145 NJDhockeyfan

Muslim Countries Demand Sweden Change Laws

Ambassadors from Muslim countries have indicated that they intend to present the Swedish prime minister with a list of demands when they meet for talks on Friday.

Fredrik Reinfeldt invited the ambassadors from 20 Muslim countries to government offices on Friday following a wave of protests from Muslim countries after the publication of a caricature of Muhammad in local newspaper Nerikes Allehanda.

Reinfeldt's press secretary Oscar H%uFFFDll%uFFFDn was unable to say which countries had confirmed their attendance.

Egyptian ambassador Mohamed Sotouhi told news agency TT that he and a group of fellow ambassadors had agreed on a list of measures Sweden needed to take if it was to secure a long-term solution to the Muhammad cartoon controversy.

According to Sotouhi, "comprehensive measures" were required if Sweden was to prevent some "amateur artist" from reawakening tensions every other month.

"We want to see action, not just nice words. We have to push for a change in the law," he said.

"Muslims need legal protection against the desecration of the Prophet Muhammad, maybe something similar to the protection enjoyed by Jews and homosexuals."

Sounds like veiled threats to me.

I hope the Swedes have enough testosterone to tell the ambassadors to kiss their Swedish asses.

Europe will not likely fight back until Brussels becomes a terrorist state.

147 Airedale  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:53:24pm

re: #145 NJDhockeyfan

I think the muslim countries should allow other religions more freedom to practice what they believe. Let the House of Saud kick off this more tolerant campaign
yeah, when monkeys will fly out of my butt

148 ploome hineni[deleted]  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:53:56pm
149 ReaganRepublican  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:54:07pm

Christian countries demand Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iran, Lebanon, Jordan, Turkey, Indonesia, Thailand, Algeria & other muslim countries change laws. Can't we all just get along?

Wow...that was easy.

150 pat  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:56:54pm

re: #124 grayp

And meanwhile 40,000 Palestinians have fled from their homes, most probably never to return.

That's a heartbreaker.

151 Ay, Caramba  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:57:08pm

re: #149 ReaganRepublican

Those countries will just keep treating Christians and Jews like Rodney King.

152 pat  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 1:58:07pm

re: #149 ReaganRepublican

Bush should have done this long ago and put an embargo on travel to and from SA until accomplished.

153 stevieray  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:00:07pm

re: #141 Piglet-U93

Not for real... that's the website that fooled MSNBC a few years ago. Chris Matthews went bonkers, if I recall correctly.

154 pat  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:00:31pm

re: #117 nyc redneck

Bloomberg has come to believe his wishful thinking. Another delusional lib.

155 Ojoe  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:00:44pm

What sane person thinks we can win the war against these god-damn animals while we let them have whole states ...

Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia,

as sanctuaries, where these enemies of ours can:

Raise any army

Hatch any plot

Build any weapon?

Who thinks we can survive this way

Who?

156 Mike in Georgia[deleted]  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:02:26pm
157 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:06:00pm

The ACLU Has Got To Be Kidding


After a long delay, the ACLU of Michigan has finally released its position statement on the University of Michigan-Dearborn’s decision to install ritual foot baths for Muslim students.

In the statement , the ACLU admits that "spending public funds for items that were designed primarily to facilitate a religious practice raises red flags,” and that, after an analysis of the “facts,” they "remain troubled by the fact that the footbaths, which are permanent features, will probably be used primarily by Muslim students, and only incidentally by others.”

But in spite of being troubled by the sight of all those red flags, the ACLU refuses to challenge the decision by the University.

Why? Because, as the ACLU is now claiming, the University’s decision “was motivated primarily by concerns for health and safety”; otherwise, “[w]ere those reasons not present, this form of governmental support for one religion would be highly objectionable” to the ACLU.

And so we are to believe that what would otherwise be highly objectionable is neutralized by calling it a hygiene issue.

Now, the ACLU knows perfectly well that a critical legal test applied by courts to suspect government actions is not whether or not it entails safety and cleanliness, but whether or not the action’s principal or primary effect either advances or inhibits religion.

To get around this in the UM footbath case, in which the principal effect of the University's decision to advance the religion if Islam sticks out a mile, the ACLU claims the key issue is actually enshrouded in a dense fog of doubt: “it is not clear," writes the ACLU, “"that the installation of the footbaths has the principal effect of promoting religion.”

It isn't? And how can it be unclear? “[B]ecause Muslim students will continue to wash their feet in the sink before praying if another viable alternative is not provided. It appears that the principal effect is to make an activity that is already occurring safer and cleaner for all students.”

Notice how, when describing the all-important "principal effect," the ACLU coyly reinforces the good old American qualities of "safer and cleaner" (and "for all students," no less!), while obscuring behind a meaningless undefined term (it's only "an activity"), what it is exactly that is being made safer and cleaner. What's being made safer and cleaner is a religious, ritual activity being practiced only by Muslim students and staff.

158 Egfrow  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:07:23pm

Haditha video was edited and altered by prosecuters

159 pat  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:08:43pm

re: #157 NJDhockeyfan

How about a rule to the effect you can't wash your feet in the sink? I mean this is the school that won't allow christians to meet in an unused classroom.

160 stevieray  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:11:35pm

Here is a nice little article from someone who gets it:

"What Oppresses Muslims"

by Warner MacKenzie

Worth reading and forwarding (imho).

PS The Michigan Wolverines really stink... Oregon is smackin' 'em around but good.

161 ReaganRepublican  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:13:36pm

re: #151 Ay, Caramba

I would just like to see the democratic nations come out with with the same demands that we would like to to happen (knowing that they are ridiculous and meaningless demands) in reaction to these nitwits so we can illustrate their harebrained demands.

Just once, when they say this is what we demand, can we not say "Well, we will consider your harebrained demands when your guys stop killing Jews, Christians, and & other innocent people that you call infidels and until then, your demands are duly noted. Now sit down and shut up!

162 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:15:20pm

re: #128 stevieray

Sandmonkey is back and blogging again.

Wonderful news!

163 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:21:52pm

re: #157 NJDhockeyfan

In the statement , the ACLU admits that "spending public funds for items that were designed primarily to facilitate a religious practice raises red flags,” and that, after an analysis of the “facts,” they "remain troubled by the fact that the footbaths, which are permanent features, will probably be used primarily by Muslim students, and only incidentally by others.”

But in spite of being troubled by the sight of all those red flags, the ACLU refuses to challenge the decision by the University.
...

Now, the ACLU knows perfectly well that a critical legal test applied by courts to suspect government actions is not whether or not it entails safety and cleanliness, but whether or not the action’s principal or primary effect either advances or inhibits religion.

To get around this in the UM footbath case, in which the principal effect of the University's decision to advance the religion if Islam sticks out a mile, the ACLU claims the key issue is actually enshrouded in a dense fog of doubt: “it is not clear," writes the ACLU, “"that the installation of the footbaths has the principal effect of promoting religion.”

Some lawyers I know are fond of saying: When the law is on your side, argue the law. When the law is not on your side, confuse the issues. Looks like the ACLU knows very well how to do this.

164 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:22:31pm

re: #159 pat

re: #157 NJDhockeyfan

How about a rule to the effect you can't wash your feet in the sink? I mean this is the school that won't allow christians to meet in an unused classroom.

If the line is too long, those foot basins look like a great place to pee.

165 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:24:12pm

re: #158 Egfrow

Haditha video was edited and altered by prosecuters

More Nifong-style misconduct?

166 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:24:50pm

Interesting site.

The Al Qaeda Hunters

Al Qaeda and As Sahab are taken by surprise by the American Al Qaeda watchers who got hold of the Osama tape even before they had released it. ...

167 Ay, Caramba  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:26:17pm

re: #164 NJDhockeyfan

re: #159 pat

re: #157 NJDhockeyfan

How about a rule to the effect you can't wash your feet in the sink? I mean this is the school that won't allow christians to meet in an unused classroom.

If the line is too long, those foot basins look like a great place to pee.

..or pinch a loaf.

168 missouri boy  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:27:04pm

re: #156 Mike in Georgia

re: #147 Airedale
If they did that I'll bet the total number of mooslims in the world
would drop like a rock.


I agree with you,
Most of the muslims in the world are trapped and enslaved by iSLam...you cannot leave iSLam...without risking death. If iSLam was a choice...1,000,000's would drop it like a dead fly.
I have said it before...the best thing the world could do for muslims, is free them from the slavery of iSLam
iSLam is to blame.

169 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:28:15pm

Islamists Dealt Blow in Moroccan Elections

Voters in Morocco deprived an Islamist party of an expected parliamentary victory, handing it instead to the conservative Istiqlal party, according to preliminary results announced Saturday.

170 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:29:04pm

re: #160 stevieray

Here is a nice little article from someone who gets it:

"What Oppresses Muslims"

by Warner MacKenzie

Worth reading and forwarding (imho).

Well, that was an eye-opener! Thanks.

171 Render  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:29:08pm

re: #124 grayp

It would seem to me that the Leb Army and police did the best it could with what it had. Given the size and state of their army, and the relative age of their armor, artillery, and air units. I'm not sure how they could have done it faster, or better, under the circumstances.

===

40,000 Pali's are homeless? Cluebat time - ALL Pali's are homeless, because there is no such thing as Paliland and never has been. They are Egyptians and Jordanians, exiled from those two nations for being a threat to those two nations...

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172 serpentine fire  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:36:54pm

Off Topic

[Link: laotze.blogspot.com...]

I was just doing a little reading today and ran across this analysis of the significance of the somewhat curious translation/change of the title of Barack Obama's new book in Southeast Asia. In fact the blogger argues that the title is not a translation at all, but a whole new title:

Why would the publishers drastically change the title of the book for the Indonesian translation and make use of such figurative language? Your guess is as good as mine, but it would seem that Barack Obama is quite interested with promoting himself in Southeast Asia as a crusader for the cause of Indonesia's Muslims.

I'm obviously not a linguist so I'm off to ask Noam Chomsky for clarrification...Not.

173 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:37:50pm
174 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:39:15pm

Despite his many, many bumblings;

Yet again Bush's "axis of evil" is proven.

The world press will NEVER connect the dots. There could be five more 9/11's, ten more 7/7's,

and we will still be talked down to with "unknown men of non-descript religions and origins funded by a complex web of nations and organizations."

175 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:40:41pm

Pakistan: Militants behead two 'prostitutes'

Bannu, 7 Sept. (AKI) - Islamist militants have beheaded two women in northwestern Pakistan who they accused of being prostitutes, police said. The women's headless bodies were found on Friday dumped near a village on the outskirts of the the town of Bannu.

The women, both in their mid-40s, and identified as Maino and Malaki, were reportedly abducted from Bannu on Thursday by masked and armed men who bundled them into a car.

A note was found near the bodies accusing the women of "acts of obscenity" and of doing their business in connivance with the police.

It is the first time militants had directly targeted women and killed them in the area, police said.

Northwest Pakistan is known as a base for militants who are waging a campaign to enforce what they see as strict Islamic ways. Music and DVD stores in the region have also been targeted by the Islamists.

They are offended by cartoons but not this.

RoP my ass.

176 Racer X  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:42:54pm

re: #173 Killgore Trout

That is funnier than shit.

177 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:44:08pm

re: #23 Killgore Trout

Da Jooos...
Report: Israeli troops disguised as Palestinian grocers kidnap Gilad Shalit’s kidnapper

Bwaahahhahaaa!

I love it.

Can they make an appropriate prisoner exchange yet?

And... WTF has Israel released dozens of prisoners, and not demanded the release of this poor kid?

Say a prayer for Shalit and his family. The world has forgotten them.

178 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:44:25pm

re: #176 Racer X

Just poop.

179 Racer X  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:44:34pm

re: #159 pat

re: #157 NJDhockeyfan

How about a rule to the effect you can't wash your feet in the sink? I mean this is the school that won't allow christians to meet in an unused classroom.

Christians will not blow you up if they don't get their way.

180 Racer X  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:45:12pm

re: #178 Killgore Trout

LOL! That ones a keeper.

181 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:48:00pm

re: #173 Killgore Trout

How To Untangle Mp3 Headphones

Now floss the cat.

ROFLMAO!

Is that for real?

182 jcm  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:48:59pm

re: #181 MandyManners

re: #173 Killgore Trout

How To Untangle Mp3 Headphones

Now floss the cat.

ROFLMAO!

Is that for real?

You don't floss your cat?

183 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:49:50pm

re: #181 MandyManners

re: #173 Killgore Trout

How To Untangle Mp3 Headphones
Now floss the cat.

ROFLMAO!

Is that for real?

No. A cat's intestines are several yards long.

184 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:49:56pm

re: #181 MandyManners

It's real funny.

185 abolitionist  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:51:43pm

Re #156 [deleted]

Did I do that? If so, sorry. I saw nothing offensive in #156.

I was napping at my laptop and on awaking noticed report this comment [#156] dialog box open. (Finger was still resting on mousepad after last click on new comments.) Of course I clicked cancel. But whether anything happened while napping, I cannot say.

As others have mentioned, the report button can be too easy to click by accident - just miss quote by a couple mm, for example.

186 jcm  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:53:41pm

re: #185 abolitionist

Re #156 [deleted]

Did I do that? If so, sorry. I saw nothing offensive in #156.

I was napping at my laptop and on awaking noticed report this comment [#156] dialog box open. (Finger was still resting on mousepad after last click on new comments.) Of course I clicked cancel. But whether anything happened while napping, I cannot say.

As others have mentioned, the report button can be too easy to click by accident - just miss quote by a couple mm, for example.

It had to offend Stinky Beaumont, the report merely summons Stinky to check on a potential mess.

187 Mike in Georgia  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:58:13pm

re: #185 abolitionist
No problem. Most of my comments could be deleted and you
wouldn't miss anything.

188 tblot  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 2:58:52pm

re: #76 ZionistYoungster

I quit going over to the kos kids they bore me

189 Mike in Georgia  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 3:02:42pm

re: #186 jcm
I don't know what was offensive. You can read what I said in
#168.

190 jcm  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 3:04:45pm

re: #189 Mike in Georgia

re: #186 jcm
I don't know what was offensive. You can read what I said in
#168.

Don't know either, the report button is not a delete button.

191 Ma Sands  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 3:05:21pm

re: #171 Render

to: #124 grayp

It would seem to me that the Leb Army and police did the best it could with what it had. Given the size and state of their army, and the relative age of their armor, artillery, and air units. I'm not sure how they could have done it faster, or better, under the circumstances.


I like Carol Herman's take, on why it took so much time... :)

192 abolitionist  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 3:06:57pm

re: #186 jcm

If the issue was the phonetic spelling of muslims with a double O - precisely like some imams in the UK themselves pronounce the word, such as when justifying the wholesale slaughter of the kufar - well, I can see a problem with that.

We're in deep deep doo-doo if we can't mock our mortal enemies.

193 Ma Sands  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 3:09:21pm

re: #173 Killgore Trout

Um...


(Oh, good grief! heehee :)

194 Ma Sands  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 3:11:42pm

re: #192 abolitionist

re: #186 jcm


Perhaps another #17...? :)

195 leepro  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 3:42:29pm

re: #155 Ojoe

Please do not use God's name in vain. Thanks.

196 LoneSome Journey  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 3:47:25pm

How dare the germans to insinuate that syria could behind the terrorist plots. Anyone should know it was Karl Rove, or Rumsfeld or even Tony Snow. Yet, that's it, Snow was capable of steering Katrina into New Orleans, so something such as a terror plat would be right up his ally.

Double over sized mikey moore has apparently lost his influence with the geman government, or the individual behind the report is very new in the job and didn't know he was suppose to get clearance from mikey or the kos kiddies before releasing the report.

197 Obsidiandog  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 3:54:19pm

re: #17 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

You know, we are going to have to attack Iran and Syria at some point. Unless we want nuclear terrorists, probably both Hezb'Allah and al Qaeda, plus Iran as the regional superpower with all the surrounding Arab states in a desperate race to get/buy nukes of their own.


Think how many people wouldn't have died if France had invaded Germany when Hitler re-militarized the Ruhr.

You are right. Hitler was prepared to commit suicide if the French army had responded with force to the Ruhr operation.

198 leepro  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 3:57:17pm

re: #173 Killgore Trout

How To Untangle Mp3 Headphones

Gross...

But FUNNEEE!

199 insanity police  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 4:12:52pm

Hey Assad. Tell Saddam I said hi when you're in hell. The sooner the better.

200 ZionistYoungster  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 4:13:50pm

re: #188 tblot

I quit going over to the kos kids they bore me

In the sense that they tend to be repetitive (especially in their anti-Israel diaries), I agree. But sometimes a new argument does surface. And in any case, I keep on reading their (and other lefty sites') stuff in the interests of "Knowing Thy Enemy".

201 PatFromGermany  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 5:09:42pm

As the official German Joe Sixpack (Johann Sechspack ;-), I assure you, that the terror plot in .de is connected to some Muslim shit hole country. Now what a surprise!
/sarcasm
I dare to repeat my bold thesis about globalization in general:
The problem of assholes is an international one.

Saudi Arabia seems to hold a remarkable amount of them, sponsoring radical Islam worldwide. I wonder when we will finally acknowledge the spreading of hate against our way of life as an act, worthy of a declaration of war.

I only hope the Germans - err well actually the Europeans and Americans, now that I come to think of it - will, on some day in the future come to their senses and and start coming down hard on the ROP in the U.S./Europe/Germany and the rest of the world.

202 Shay4l  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 6:11:52pm

re: #109 justnobody

re: #105 Shay4l

I wouldn't think that the US would agree to another deal like they had with Egypt. Fake peace with Israel for $2bil each year in aid.

I don't think the US is in control of Israel's and Syria's treaties. Do you?

203 Maine's Michael  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 7:02:46pm
Mr. Beckstein said the nationality of some of the other suspects was still unclear

Like it matters.

204 Maine's Michael  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 7:03:34pm

re: #202 Shay4l

I don't think the US is in control of Israel's and Syria's treaties. Do you?

Unfortunately, I think it is.

205 ronkh  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 7:22:08pm

Send Pelosi and Kucinich back over there...

Better yet, have them go on painstream media and explain themselves...

206 LoneSome Journey  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 7:59:07pm

#73 pat

Romney hits the nail on the head. Bin Laden an evil delusional.

That description also fits howie dean. Coud they be related?

207 Ledger1  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 8:10:35pm

re: #79 Piglet-U93

re: #73 pat


Romney hits the nail on the head. Bin Laden an evil delusional.
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

Romney does not get it - Bin Laden is a good* Muslim following the teachings of Mohammad (kill the Infidels).


That reminds me of OBL’s transformation from “old and weak, to jihad sheik

[Picture of Black Beard OLB on TV]

Our focus group research showed that nearly four in five people were either ‘very likely’ or ‘likely’ to detonate themselves for a tanner, darker haired bin Laden. When the same group was shown the picture of a graying, Ally McBealish Osama with a Marilyn Manson skin tone, that number dropped to just one in five. Statistics don’t lie: People want to be sent to a painful, fiery death by an attractive, generally virile looking jihadi.”

Noted mullah makeover specialist Youfasa in Mabouti suggested that the transformation from “old and weak, to jihad sheik” was not as difficult as you might think...

See: Osama Not Just The Leader, Also A Client


* from the prespective of Islam.

208 new2thezoo  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 8:16:29pm

Is it any wonder that Bashar al Assad's father, Hafez al Wahash (In Arabic, Wahash means "Beast") changed his name to Hafez al Assad (In Arabic, Assad means "Lion.") Bashar al Assad was born in Damascus, Syria on September 11, 1965. The Twin Towers attack was on Bashar's birthday.

Bashar's father, Hafez al Assad's birthday was October 6, 1930. Hafez al Assad violently opposed the existence of Israel, and any relationship by any Arab country with Israel. In 1979, Anwar al Sadat President of Egypt signed a peace treaty with Israel. Anwar al Sadat was assassinated on October 6, 1981, Hafez al Assad's birthday.

The Bible calls the Anti-christ the 'beast'. Coincidence?

209 Timbre  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 8:40:08pm

How long has Syria been listed by the U.S. as a state sponsor of terrorism? This is exactly why I suggested several days ago here (with perfect hindsight), that we should have destroyed the military of each of the state sponsors of terrorism in late September-October 2001: Syria, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Libya, yes, even Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Pakistan, and yes, North Korea.

210 UncleSam  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 8:58:06pm

Pelosi will go see Assad again and warn him not to slip up and be discovered supplying terrorists.
She doesn't care if he does, she just doesn't want him to be found out.

211 UncleSam  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 9:26:10pm

#88 Highrise said:"This is why Ron Paul is actually a dangerous candidate (that has no chance of course) for President. He's clueless on the threat we face and what motivates them. We can't afford that type of bold ignorance."

He's not only clueless, he's willfully, fanatically clueless and ignorant, just like the Dems.

212 Rides A Pale Horse  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 9:45:44pm

re: #36 Cap'n DOC

ECmarm...Fixed it for ya...

213 Ojoe  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 9:45:46pm

re: #195 leepro

OK I stand corrected & will refrain. Thanks.

214 Droplet  Sat, Sep 8, 2007 10:37:24pm

The Europeans have coddled these mad men for years. No surprise this happens.
Also, if the explosives are indeed from Syria, the US should bomb the crap out of them.

215 shanec99  Sun, Sep 9, 2007 7:20:20am

re: #146 Piglet-U93

Are you suggesting that Brussels is not under the influence of terrorist sympathizers and apologists for Islamic murderers?

216 shanec99  Sun, Sep 9, 2007 7:22:15am

re: #147 Airedale
Go find a cage, becuz if monkeys fly out of your butt you can make a show of it.

You would make all kind of money in Vegas as the greatest magician on earth.

217 BabbaZee  Sun, Sep 9, 2007 9:06:36am

re: #201 PatFromGermany

The problem of assholes is an international one.

Amen to that
Likely it is intergalactic as well

lol


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