Kill that POS! If he isn't dead already.

The New spokesmouth of the democratic party

third!

Fifty years from now, they'll still be rolling these videos out.

He doesn't scare me as much as those in our own borders like moveon, kos, any liberal, the ACLU all with the same agenda of destroying our institutions from the inside.

I beleive there will be an attack...I hope I am wrong.

I know I'm asking the same question that is asked every time one of these comes out, but I wonder if it's a signal for something?

Can western media please just take a pledge to stop airing his propoganda?

Truly, how can *anyone* ascribe 9/11 to anyone but the homicidal muslim idiots and Al-Qaida?

They've never stopped taking credit. They've always taken credit. They are proud of this.

Too bad critical thinking skills are not taught in education or at home. Sick.

CNN hasn't finished editing it yet.

/har

He's just ticked that he didn't get to go the Muslim Parade yesterday.

Thanks so much for the thread last night, Charles. My internet was down all last night but I'm up and running now.

Neal Boortz linked me. Maybe I should listen to his show.

They kept the recording? They really are far-thinking assholes.

I suspect Adam Gadahn might be writing Osama's speeches for him. (Robert Spencer has an article about this on, I believe, jihadwatch this morning.)

They're going to be playing the recorded statement of one of the "martyrs"? But, wait, no. . . it was all a set-up, ya see, by ChimpyBushitler and Halliburton! They blew up the Twin Towers with the help of the Mossad, and Baldwin IV, the Leper King, as part of their nefarious plot to make Islam look bad!

/Okay, sarc. off!
/The Troofers are gonna hate this! Not that they'll be convinced. . .

It's no grey for mr ghey hobgoblin. Are we getting a real video or is it going to be another voiceover job with a highlight reel from his minion's martyrdom video?

It would be funny if it weren't so sad that Bin Laden's and the Democratic Party's talking points are nearly IDENTICAL.

Surrender.

Retreat.

Withdraw.

Become a socialist Jew hater "wacademic" just like Noam Chomsky.

*SIGH*

These videos will not convince the troofers.

/9/11 was an inside job

/Bin Ladin works for the CIA

Live, from Tora Bora, it's Osama bin Laden!

/not

re: #9 dahozho
They've always taken credit. They are proud of this.

Actually, this is untrue. The very first post-9/11 tape from Shifty McLaden was actually a "denial of involvement" tape.

That beard is fake. Where the heck did he get that plastic surgery?

"F" him. Stop broadcasting his attack plans over our air wave you stupid MSM bastards.

Remember the terrorists don't like to use dates with significance to us, prefering instead to create new dates of infamy. Sept 11 was jsut another day before they attacked, so I am fairly certain any new attack will come at a place and time that is significant to them and possibly not so much to us. Unfortunately on the other hand I feel it will be a broader attack, one that will affect small town America as well as the big icons of our economic power. So Wall St and the Mall of America seem more likely or like Glenn Beck is talking about right now attacks on our schools.

re: #7 beblebrox

I know I'm asking the same question that is asked every time one of these comes out, but I wonder if it's a signal for something?

You are not alone in that thought.

Peculiarities have been noticed about the most recent OBL video. Apparently the video frame freezes whenever he talks about current events. Don't know if it's true because I don't have the time or inclination to check it out.

re: #17 itellu3times

Live, from Tora Bora, it's Osama bin Laden!

/not

Why not bomb the hell out of those mountains? Turn the mountainous region between Pakistan and Afghanistan into a parking lot.

(1. bin ladens two tapes...( 2. Rosh Hashanah...(3. Ramadon...(4. 9-11 on tuesday again...( 5. new Moon on 9-11
...just saying...I hope I am wrong also.

Not sure if this article was discussed at LGF...

Latest Bin Laden Video Is a Forgery: All References to Current Events Are Made During Video Freeze

He IS dead.

These videos are nothing more than compilations produced to keep up the morale of bin Laden's leftist supporters.

OH yeah? Well this is just because General Petreaus is spewing his traitorous filth today to back up the lies of Bushitler! The CIA made this!

/troofer mode off

How do MSM promote an agenda? Was scanning news this morning and the co-owed Wisconsin State Journal/Capital Times both carried the same story on an anti-war rally in Wisc, with Cindy "nutjob" Sheehan as the headliner. They both papers ncluded this line early in the story.

The "Peace Mom," whose soldier son Casey, 24, was killed just five days after arriving in Iraq in 2004, resigned May 29 as an anti-war activist.

Actually he was in his second tour. Casey re-enlisted while in Iraq. He thought enough of our involvement to go back for another tour. This isn't just a casual omission or a certain word used to create a tone, it's a fabrication of facts to promote a political point of view.

re: #28 beblebrox

scared me for a second.

re: #30 insanity police

re: #28 beblebrox

scared me for a second.

Only because you know that this line will be on KOS, the DU, et all before the end of the day. sad, isn't it?

As heard from the bleachers: Keel heem! Keel heem! Aww, he's probably already dead. Okay then, keel heem again. This time with a stake to the heart.

.

al Qaeda leader introduces the prerecorded martyrdom video of one of the 9/11 hijackers, Waleed al Shehri

AH !
The truth comes out !
A JEWISH name !

/sarc tag for our commie readers who have an average IQ around 22.

I think this is Osama's way of auditioning for "The View". He probably figures with Rosie O'Donnell gone, this is his big chance to grab the empty Troofer slot.

If they want to prove Bin Laden is alive, they'll send us a picture of him with a shoe on his head that has today's date scrawled on it.

re: #31 beblebrox

Sad, sorry, and pathetic. Kos kidz show that our educational system is failing.

How did Rove get OBL to take credit for 9-11 like that? Magnificent Bastard!
Seriously, the pipeline for these videos should provide the best indicator of where this son of a goat is hiding and more releases should be encouraged.

re: #15 ruexperienced

It would be funny if it weren't so sad that Bin Laden's and the Democratic Party's talking points are nearly IDENTICAL.

Surrender.

Retreat.

Withdraw.

Become a socialist Jew hater "wacademic" just like Noam Chomsky.

*SIGH*

I hope someone in the GOP has taken note of these talking points and produces a series of ads for the next election that shows the similiarities.

Oh! Goody! More talking points for Pelosi and Murtha.

re: #31 beblebrox Well of course, it's all Karl Rove, the evil genius doing this.

Hey Osama,

Is that Just for Men Hair Coloring?

re: #36 insanity police

re: #31 beblebrox

Sad, sorry, and pathetic. Kos kidz show that our educational system is failing.

Sadly, critical thinking is a dying art.

re: #41 experiencedtraveller

Hey Osama,

Is that Just for Men Hair Coloring?

They'd never use filthy infidel products.

That's made from 100%, all-natural goat s#$@.

re: #36 insanity police

re: #31 beblebrox

Sad, sorry, and pathetic. Kos kidz show that our educational system is failing.

The L³ has long been working for the goal of herds of sheeple to be led.

This time 9/11 falls on a Tuesday. WHen 9/11 happened, it fell on a Tuesday.

What's wrong with the legacy media? The freak, Bin Layin(down) in a cave somewhere; gets his tape played?

And, the real events, recorded at the time, are not replayed? People need to refocus on the horrors of that day!

Not get pre-empted by the 5-times a day, head bobbers; with hineys thrust up in the air.

May the farts be with them.

re: #35 SonOfLiberty

If they want to prove Bin Laden is alive, they'll send us a picture of him with a shoe on his head that has today's date scrawled on it.

Spew alert! Oh darn, my monitor's a mess this time...

Why don't they dress him in a big white jumpsuit with sequins?

Dateline: Disgraceland.

If the Mossad did 9-11 with giant gliders built in a giant underground factory in Negev, and bin Laden rolls pre-martyrdom videos of 9-11 hijackers, doesn't that make bin Laden Jewish?

I wonder if Binnie knows he should actually be Bennie.

Hmmm, Shmuel Ben-Laden.

Has a wring to it. Or ring.

OT OT OT
Breaking News!

Spain reporting
Generalissimo Francisco Franco
is still dead!

I think somebody stuffed obl when he died/dyed and they use him like a ventriloquist's dummy. Now, to find out who is writing those B-rated rambling, drivel-inspired scripts for The Mummy-Dummy ... and who is pulling the strings. Oy!

The wife and I were watching some shows and stuff and we both think this is not the same person being OBL.

His facial features are not the same, his nose has changed shape and his eyes are different. This is not the same "OBL"

In a side by side photo we think it's not the same. IMO.

re: #50 bj

Prolly the same guy keeping Castro 'alive'.

re: #23 Marc L

Peculiarities have been noticed about the most recent OBL video. Apparently the video frame freezes whenever he talks about current events. Don't know if it's true because I don't have the time or inclination to check it out.

It was discussed at great length on this thread yesterday. Lots of info and interesting speculation.

re: #6 storagemanager

I beleive there will be an attack...I hope I am wrong.

They will try of that I am certain. Go ahead give US an excuse to rachet up the response closer to what is needed.

I was doubtful of the first tape's authenticity and apparently someone with more time than I have agrees with me. I'll link to Jonah Goldberg's post about it at the Corner rather than directly to the blog because he's a flaming lib and the rest of his site is kind of crackers.

Link

Osama Bin Laden's widely publicized video address to the American people has a peculiarity that casts serious doubt on its authenticity: the video freezes at about 1 minute and 36 58 seconds, and motion only resumes again at 12:30. The video then freezes again at 14:02 remains frozen until the end. All references to current events, such as the 62nd anniversary of the U.S. atomic bombing of Japan, and Sarkozy and Brown being the leaders of France and the UK, respectively, occur when the video is frozen! The words spoken when the video is in motion contain no references to contemporary events and could have been (and likely were) made before the U.S. invasion of Iraq.

re: #40 pingjockey

re: #31 beblebrox Well of course, it's all Karl Rove, the evil genius doing this.

Of course it is. Because KKKarl Rove is the most evil, devious, lowdown, nefarious, snake in the grass who has ever practiced the art of public deception in the history of the human race. Yet somehow they are able to see through him like a pane of window glass. Shows how superior and more aware they are than the rest of us dumb, gullible 'Mericans are.

/don't you feel so used now?

OBL

Obvious

Big

Loser

Can't we just not show the ramblings of this psychopath?

or preface the video with his philosophy, e.g., "death to gays" and "Sharia for San Francisco" to make these showings less palatable to the left?

The son-of-a-bitch is dead! In the meantime, I AIN'T FORGETTIN NUTHIN!

re: #42 beblebrox

So is rational thinking among the KKK (Kos Kidz Krazies).

FWIW, I have a friend of a friend who is very very well connected at a certain very well known Wall Street stock exchange.
what I have been told is that this person received a high level security briefing in the springtime of 2002, when he was told that OBL had been snuffed in the previous few weeks but it was being kept hush hush. I suppose to allow the war in Iraq to proceed

take it with a rather large grain of salt

I can just hear him now:

"Make sure you watch Sicko, as it truthfully describes the deficiencies in your health care system. Oh, and the minimum wage needs to be raised to $11.00 an hour. Death to America."

Who knew he was a rabid moonbat?

re: #26 Jihad Worrier

It's not entirely true...
Shenanigans in the Osama video?

The opening segment is indeed boilerplate but the second segment at 12:36 refers to the Democrats’ failure “to implement your desire to stop the war.” That would have been an odd criticism for Osama to level in 2003 given that popular support for the war in March of that year was bipartisan, with 65% approval, and it would have been in his interest at the time to portray America as united in its “crusade” to make for better jihadist recruitment. It’s a more sensible criticism circa 2005 or 2006, but even then the Democrats had no power to “stop the war” until November of last year — which would, after all, make the clip fairly recent. Besides, as BT acknowledges, the voice sounds the same throughout and two U.S. intel officials confirm that it’s Osama’s.

We'll see what happens with this next video.

re: #44 jcm

LOL. Sheeple.

Watch out Sheeple, Bin Laden might seduce you. We all know how UBL LOVES sheep, and goats too.

We saw a preview of the OBL tape last night before Sunday NFL on NBC. Oh sorry that was Keith Olbermann my mistake.

/sarc off

re: #28 beblebrox

OH yeah? Well this is just because General Petreaus is spewing his traitorous filth today to back up the lies of Bushitler! The CIA made this!

/troofer mode off

I suggest one fix in there. The lefties now prefer to refer to him as Gen. Betray Us...

I'm not 100% sure it's the same OBL from what I saw on the last tape. I'll wait to see what the next one looks like.

Have a look at this leftard site, where they claim the video is fake, and that all the post-911 references are made when the video "freezes" in two places.

Of course, the leftards are all trying to prove it to be a Karl Rove plot etc etc., but its interesting that they don't like their talking points being stolen!

I haven't looked, but can anyone verify this video "freeze"?

re: #18 SonOfLiberty

Publically, but there's also the home vids of BL being very very happy when he was brought the news of the WTC in Afganistan. And taking credit for the people/plans.

I believe those tapes were found by US troops, but don't know where you can access them online.

Why not bomb the hell out of those mountains? Turn the mountainous region between Pakistan and Afghanistan into a parking lot.

#24, this is as wild a fantasy as any from the troofers.

Nukes can flatten cities, which are made of wood and kind of airy and fragile, and mostly about 20 feet tall. They cannot flatten mountain ranges, which are made of, hello, solid rock, and run to 20 thousand feet tall. (Or, in the case of Afghanistan/Pakistan, say, merely 10 000. And these mountain ranges are far more extensive than a city.

Or were you proposing to do it with conventional explosives?

And, one final little, teeny weeny objection: half this stuff is in Pakistan, and they do have nukes, and their counterstrike would not be aimed at the Rocky Mountains.

Why does the media love to show things like OBL with his new Grecian Formula beard threatening us , when they censor other things?
Case in point , the MSM no longer shows the video of people leaping to their deaths from the Towers. The explanation is that the wounds are too fresh.
It was six years ago! We need to remember and I believe that is why they do not show it. I believe to the MSM that multi-culturalism is more important than the War on Terror. You know people might remember that Muslims had something to do with 9/11.

#51
I agree. I think it is a decoy guy like Saddam had several of.
Also, Robert Spencer said when they dye their beards it is for jihad so they will seem young in battle and more intimidating.
I hope I'm wrong but I think the dyed beard was the signal.

#67 NoSubmission

The next OBL video is going to feature him with a tasteful Dreadlock and braided beard.

He's going to the younger demographic, hig young troofer crowd.

re: #21 Just_A_Grunt

Unfortunately on the other hand I feel it will be a broader attack, one that will affect small town America as well as the big icons of our economic power. So Wall St and the Mall of America seem more likely or like Glenn Beck is talking about right now attacks on our schools.

Mall of America is almost under the flight path of the new runway at the Minneapolis/St. Paul International Airport.

Nobody would notice anything amiss about an airplane's trajectory until it was too late.

re: #71 opnion

The regular media has its own twisted agenda, of course.

OT...

CNN reports more happiness and light

"Now you see Iraqis' houses, meant to be a family's safest place, have become like graves for their families, because any minute, any second, they're ready to die by explosion, airstrikes or car bombs."

It doesn't matter if bin Laden is dead or alive...he is one Muslim...he is not Islam...but the tapes could be a signal to an attack...I am not going to laugh...because if an attack does happen...I don't want to feel ashamed for laughing...when so many could die.

re: #61 Shug

Unfortunately this is the kind of comment that will be cherry-picked and developed into a new conspiracy.

I seriously think Bin Laden is dead and has been for some time - this video doesn't do much to assuage that feeling, but the possibility exists that he's still out there.

re: #36 insanity police

re: #31 beblebrox

Sad, sorry, and pathetic. Kos kidz show that our educational system is failing.

That depends on what you expect the educational system to do. As a means to turn out responsible, thinking, rational, logical individuals, our educational system has failed miserably. On the other hand, if your intent is to turn out a huge mass of people that are incapable of thought, to say nothing of independent thought, that would not know logic if it bit them on the ass, people who are fit for nothing other than sheepdom and slavery - well then, our educational system is currently well down the road to success.

True story: One of my daughters writes for a living. She just called me to tell me that a US college student, currently enrolled in Introduction to Psychology II somewhere, contacted her to inquire about having a paper written. The paper: an assignment intended to teach the student how to produce work in APA format. Student Solution: Hire someone who knows how to do it!

OT: left-wing guerrilla group blows Mexican oil pipeline.

They called them left-wing on the t.v. blurb as well. Why does that make me suspicious?

"He's dead". "He's alive". But Islam doesn't need an Osama to thrive.

(Or put it another way: apart from being a bone of contention in the perennial Rep/Dem spat, who cares?)

I find it amazing that so many people, even those on the left, actually take these OBL videos at face value. It should've been painfully clear after the 2004 pre-election tape that they're ruses, exercises in reverse psychology. But the common narrative at the time was that it was an attempt to sway the election towards Democrats. Nothing could be further from the truth.

Bin Laden is this administration's Goldstein, and every communique from him is like political gold. They're mutual bogeymen who need one another. Years before 9/11, OBL's stated goal was to drag the west into an epic battle with Islamic civilization. He does not want this conflict to end. That's why he's done all he can to spook people into rallying around the Preident. These messages have been designed for a purpose, and it appears that they're achieving their intended effect all too well.

Like I said before... You folks saying "It's not the same guy" are literally chasing shadows.

I bet they decided to release the B-reel after our sneaky intel types stole their thunder a few days early. "Oh so you stole our tape? Well guess what, we have another! Take that, eenfeedels!"

I suspect Adam Gadahn might be writing Osama's speeches for him. (Robert Spencer has an article about this on, I believe, jihadwatch this morning.)

That would make sense. I wonder what his handles at Kos, HuffPo, and DU are.

The last speech does read like it was written with the guidance of an ignorant, illiterate leftist college drop-out who spends his time surfing the protest-y websites, which is probably what Adam does when he's not killing time in Jihad Chat somewhere.

re: #73 BulgarWheat

#67 NoSubmission

The next OBL video is going to feature him with a tasteful Dreadlock and braided beard.

He's going to the younger demographic, hig young troofer crowd.

I heard in the new video, instead of an AK -47, there's a skateboard in the background.

re: #78 SonOfLiberty

that's why I used the disclaimer, take this comment with a large grain of salt. I am only reporting something that I heard from a friend who has a family member who is in such a position to receive a classified briefing of that nature.

I personally believe bin ladin is dead.
I personally believe there will be no copycat attacks on 9/11 2007 or any other year. Not their style.
They pick us off when we least expect it ( which is most days actually, other than 9/11, July 4th, or superbowl sunday )

re: #79 galloping granny

True.

So if OBL is alive, and he claims to be behind 9/11, then the Troofers need to stfu. If OBL is dead, then the left needs to stfu and get behind winning the war. Then Olbermann needs to stfu. And if there are any more attacks, Hillary "herself" says that this will not be good for the democrats.

People in the intelligence community ... feel

Intelligence is based on empirical evidence, not feelings dammit. Sadly, instead of commemorating the victims of the event, we will be analyzing a piece of shit video all day long.

#84 Peacekeeper

Skateboarding is not a crime, unless it's packed with explosives

In the next tape, I would like to see someone reach out with a zippo and light his beard on fire to prove that he isn't dead.

Things that are dead:

Britany Spears Music Career
The presidential campaigns of Chris Dodd, Joe Biden and Sam Brownback
University of Michigan Football Season
OBL

re: #82 Priapus

Just curious . . . do you have to get a doctor's permission to post on a thread lasting more than four hours?

I hear MoveOn.org is set to host Bin Laden as their keynote speaker at their biannual freak fest.

I'll see your ramadan agitprop talking jihadi corpsickle and raise you one L'Shanah Tova, Mfers.

L'CHAIM! ALl ye whore and beast MFers of the global dhimming!

re: #90 Ojoe

In the next tape, I would like to see someone reach out with a zippo and light his beard on fire to prove that he isn't dead.

Video camera: $300
Video tape: $2
Time it takes to shoot video of OBL: 45 minutes
Cost of zippo lighter: $3
Setting OBL's beard on fire: PRICELESS!

re: #91 Shug

Things that are dead:

Britany Spears Music Career
The presidential campaigns of Chris Dodd, Joe Biden and Sam Brownback
University of Michigan Football Season
OBL

That hurts.

If the message of next OBL tape is as out-of-character as the last one, will Adam Gadahn be found in Pakistan, chained to a broken truck rear axle, ready to tell all?

Alternatively, will his head be delivered to the US forces in Kabul?

re: #78 SonOfLiberty

re: #61 Shug

Unfortunately this is the kind of comment that will be cherry-picked and developed into a new conspiracy.

I seriously think Bin Laden is dead and has been for some time - this video doesn't do much to assuage that feeling, but the possibility exists that he's still out there.

Just thinking out loud so jump my a**. Let's assume OBL is alive and issuing instructions to the faithful. Now just a something to chew on while back some guys from Delta or Seals or some other operators put eyeballs on the tall figure in white. While they were evaluating the target they noticed who was coming and who was going. A decision was made that just watching and following the traffic would yield more results that whacking the SOB. That weapons with OBL's name on it got held cold until the intel value run out.

jus' speculating.

re: #24 insanity police

re: #17 itellu3times

Live, from Tora Bora, it's Osama bin Laden!

/not

Why not bomb the hell out of those mountains? Turn the mountainous region between Pakistan and Afghanistan into a parking lot.

It'd look pretty much the same after, as it does now.

Just_A_Grunt (#21),

It's my theory that Sept. 11 was chosen for one reason. Because on Sept. 11, 2000 one of the 20 hijackers in training was killed in an collision between two planes at the flight school in Florida by a Columbus resident that was also there for flight training.

re: #84 Peacekeeper

re: #73 BulgarWheat

#67 NoSubmission
The next OBL video is going to feature him with a tasteful Dreadlock and braided beard.
He's going to the younger demographic, hig young troofer crowd.

I heard in the new video, instead of an AK -47, there's a skateboard in the background.

You mean like this skateboard jihad? From the Islamic Thinker's Society yesterday at the parade.
Or maybe he'll be in a Snowman costume.

PIMF

DON'T jump on my...

re: #99 itellu3times

But it would take out the jihadis, and goats (potential wives for Osama if he is alive) who live there.

re: #5 Just_A_Grunt

He doesn't scare concern me as much as those in our own borders like moveon, kos, any liberal, the ACLU all with the same agenda of destroying our institutions from the inside.

Echoing your sentiment with a slight alteration.

/oh noes, iz un eko chmbr (sorry)

This is related to Osama and al Qaeda and the forthcoming Gen. Petraeus speech before Congress. Totten interviews a Colonel operating in Ramadi and asks about al Qaeda in Iraq. The answer shouldn't be surprising to folks here, but might be to those who rely solely on big media outlets:

Some in the United States are unconvinced that Al Qaeda was really at the center of the conflict in Anbar. So I asked Colonel John Charlton how the Army knows Al Qaeda is really who they have been dealing with. He was supremely annoyed by the question.

“We know it’s Al Qaeda,” he said. There is no controversy whatsoever about this in Iraq. My question seemed to him as if it had come from another planet. “They self-identify as Al Qaeda. We didn’t give them that name. That’s what they call themselves. We have their propaganda CDs which have Al Qaeda written all over them.”

It’s not a dumb question, though, if a substantial number of Americans aren’t sure what’s going on in a bottomlessly complicated country eight or more times zones away. And not everyone who underestimated Al Qaeda’s presence is a fool.

Al Qaeda terrorists are self identifying themselves as such. The US doesn't need to invent 'em since they're identifying themselves when killed or captured based on the materials they have with them. Osama and al Qaeda made Ramadi and Anbar the center of the fight for Iraq, and they're losing bigtime.

They need to rally - and the latest video might have been a step in that direction - get attention off the fact that they've been hammered in Iraq, and instead focus on the homefront where a pliant media and a Democratic party that is beholden to the fringe anti-war leftists where they may have a chance to acquire by Democratic party cut and run what they could not by the field of battle.

re: #102 jcm

PIMF

DON'T jump on my...

a huge difference !

This reminds me of that Saturday Night Live sketch where Tom Brokaw was going on vacation, so the news producers pre-recorded a bunch of news items trying to cover all the bases while the anchor was on vacation.

SNL Brokaw Vacation

Not too hard to imagine Bin Laden and his producers making stuff up.

OBL: Congratulations great American Satan for electing Democrats for your majority governm...now that's just crazy, they'll never do that.

Producers: Yeah, well Binny, we're just trying to cover all the bases here. You're the one who decided you're going to live in a cave the next few years. Just keep reading.

OBL: Fine. Blah blah Great American Satan...62nd anniversary of Japan bombing Pearl Harbor, next year is a leap year, and your evil Western tv show LOST will reveal that all the characters really are in Purgatory...wait a minute that's insane! Everyone knows that it is just a giant dream and they'll wake up on the original airplane.

Producers: They could make a last minute change...we wouldn't want your credibility shot over something that easy to foresee now would we? Are you going to keep recording or not? I'm sure that al-Sadr would be more than happy to take your place.

OBL: OK, ok..no need to be hasty..reading on...

re: #77 storagemanager

I wholeheartedly agree that these tapes in short succession seem to be a bit more than coincidence...

re: #94 BabbaZee

That put a smile on my face.

re: #106 Shug

re: #102 jcm

PIMF

DON'T jump on my...

a huge difference !

COFFEE need COFFEE monday morning... COFFEEE!

just had a chat with a person here at work...

i really need to control my temper
but i see people like him and others destroying this country with their stupidity.

"why didnt we attack Saudi Arabia"

the same people that go after Bush for Iraq want us to attack Saudi?

as if one solution to the problem MUST be used in all cases.
how the hell does he know what is or is not beiong done behind the scenes?

and are people like him ready for a world wide depression?
that is the outcome.

as if the Saudi royal family wants osama to win...

simply pathtic, but what do i expect from a kerry voter?

storagemanager (#77),

It doesn't matter if bin Laden is dead or alive...he is one Muslim...he is not Islam...

Exactly.

It's the very reason the Loony Leftys are obsessed with capturing Osama. Because then they can claim "victory" and demand that the war be ended.

It is testament to the Legacy Media's ™ ineptitude that this video is aired with Al Qaeda propaganda statements about it intact. Why must we, instead of the talking heads, ask "When will we see a video of Bin Laden holding up a current newspaper? Not a grainy still image, not a voice-over, but actual moving video of him picking up a current newspaper--NYT comes to mind--with the date on it clearly visible." Suck on that, Al Qaeda.

re: #96 insanity police

re: #91 Shug

Things that are dead:

Britany Spears Music Career
The presidential campaigns of Chris Dodd, Joe Biden and Sam Brownback
University of Michigan Football Season
OBL

That hurts.

First, Appy State, then Oregon? Not good.

re: #91 Shug

Things that are dead:

Britany Spears Music Career

Hey Shug...thats unfair. Britany will be back!

/After she loses 40 pounds and learns how to sing

re: #115 Ward Cleaver

Not good, I agree.

If I get one more OSU or MSU fan rubbing it in my face I'm gonna go ballistic.

/i realize that's an invitation for more gloating. get to it if you must

re: #105 lawhawk

That's an interesting theory and make a lot of sense. Although Ossama could be considered a hero for the mere fact that he's still alive he lost Afghanistan to American occupation and now he risks losing Iraq to the Americans. It would be very bad for his image if he's defeated again in Iraq.

Now that I think about it... Isn't being a terrorist leader just plain boring? What do you do all day, anyway? Come up with some ideas for where and how to set off explosions, and then... What? Read the Koran? Make a couple of phone calls? Hike over to the next camp and inspect the troops? Host lunch with the local sheik, and talk about Islam? Write a fatwa? Where's the variety?

What do you do for fun? I can imagine life is pretty dull when you're All Islam, All The Time.

- Porn... banned.
- Booze... banned.
- Music... banned.
- Sex... mostly banned. Only at night, only one position, and sure you might have two dozen women to pick from, but they're all taciturn, inexperienced, and wearing bedsheets.
- Travel... Not possible. Maybe pop over to the next valley to pick up a paper or meet with the local leader types. Anything else runs the risk of earning you a high explosive sandwich for lunch.
- Food... Goat meat and anemic grain, maybe some tea. Alton Brown nowhere to be found.
- Books besides the Koran... Arabic only. No novels.
- The internet... lousy connection. No porn. Arabic sites only.

I'd be happy to go blow myself up somewhere if that was all I had to do.

re: #116 experiencedtraveller

re: #91 Shug

Things that are dead:

Britany Spears Music Career

Hey Shug...thats unfair. Britany will be back!

/After she loses 40 pounds and learns how to sing lip sync

fixed

re: #116 experiencedtraveller

re: #91 Shug

Things that are dead:

Britany Spears Music Career

Hey Shug...thats unfair. Britany will be back!

/After she loses 40 pounds and learns how to sing

Did you see the pic of her prancing in her panties for the Video Music Awards on Fox this morning? She is just exactly the prime example of American womanhood that I would want my daughters and granddaughters to emulate! (In a pig's eye!)

re: #116 experiencedtraveller

The singing part never stopped her before.

You can't blame Nixon this time...

FLASH: ROMNEY FOR PRESDIENT HEADQUARTERS BROKEN INTO; LAPTOPS, TV TAKEN... DEVELOPING...

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

re: #35 SonOfLiberty

Alrighty then. You owe me a flat panel. Choice. Really choice. Now, shoe will ya? :o)

Is anyone else bothered that ABC decided to call it a "martyrdom" video?

Hey ploome.

re: #24
Uhh, because it is a sovereign country?
We had a pocketful of UN Resolutions to enforce when we invaded Iraq the second time and in Afghanistan we were in "hot pursuit". Pakistan is a friend of sorts, and you don't bomb their territory without their permission. Besides, it would be bad for the environment.

re: #123 storagemanager

This isn't the first break in of a candidate in the 2008 presidential race either. Dodd's campaign had a break in as well.

re: #125 Vagrant

Is anyone else bothered that ABC decided to call it a "martyrdom" video?

Who is it that owns ABC these days again?

I do have to tell you though, I heard an interesting theory last night from my 10 yo grand-kiddo. We were having a late night discussion and she tells me that she has come to the conclusion that there are only a couple of companies in the world, that everything else is part of them and they run everything. Her nominations: ATT and Disney.

re: #125 Vagrant

Is anyone else bothered that ABC decided to call it a "martyrdom" video?

!

re: #125 Vagrant

Is anyone else bothered that ABC decided to call it a "martyrdom" video?

Disgusting. I hadn't heard that.

Why don't they call it a suicide and homicide video?

Usama Bin Laden, D-Afghanistan (stolen from Limbaugh)

Looks like Mr. Bin Laden went to see Mr. Grecian Formula for men between videos.

I think storagemanager might have this right.

It would seem to me, they have lost their momentum in Iraq.

Any major attempt over the last couple of years has been thwarted by western governments.

re: #130 galloping granny

re: #125 Vagrant

Is anyone else bothered that ABC decided to call it a "martyrdom" video?

Who is it that owns ABC these days again?

I do have to tell you though, I heard an interesting theory last night from my 10 yo grand-kiddo. We were having a late night discussion and she tells me that she has come to the conclusion that there are only a couple of companies in the world, that everything else is part of them and they run everything. Her nominations: ATT and Disney.

What about World Walmart?

re: #132 insanity police

re: #125 Vagrant

Is anyone else bothered that ABC decided to call it a "martyrdom" video?

Disgusting. I hadn't heard that.

Why don't they call it a suicide and homicide video?

and they also refer to the Holy Quran and The Prophet Mohammed

re: #133 kentuckyjoe

ROTFLOL!

re: #105 lawhawk

They need to rally - and the latest video might have been a step in that direction - get attention off the fact that they've been hammered in Iraq, and instead focus on the homefront where a pliant media and a Democratic party that is beholden to the fringe anti-war leftists where they may have a chance to acquire by Democratic party cut and run what they could not by the field of battle.

Exactly. Osama Bin Laden is a student of history and now realizes it is impossible to win this war on any battlefield with hydrogen peroxide and a limited supply of suicide bombers. I am sure he has studied Vietnam and realizes the enormous effect that the left had on the outcome. Hence the appeal to them. Hopefully the left will understand that they are being 'played' but maybe that's wishful thinking?

Pakistan deports Sharif after return

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) – Former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif was deported to Saudi Arabia today, hours after he had landed in Pakistan following seven years in exile hoping to campaign against the country's U.S.-allied military ruler, officials said.

About four hours after he arrived on a flight from London, Sharif was taken into custody and charged with corruption, but then quickly spirited to another plane and flown out of Pakistan toward Jiddah,

re: #136 Shug

P.C. has made the world crazy!

re: #135 David IV of Georgia

re: #130 galloping granny

re: #125 Vagrant

Is anyone else bothered that ABC decided to call it a "martyrdom" video?

Who is it that owns ABC these days again?I do have to tell you though, I heard an interesting theory last night from my 10 yo grand-kiddo. We were having a late night discussion and she tells me that she has come to the conclusion that there are only a couple of companies in the world, that everything else is part of them and they run everything. Her nominations: ATT and Disney.

What about World Walmart?

Hey - she's TEN. Just calling 'em like she sees 'em. I thought it was pretty interesting coming from a 10 year old.

re: #120 Shug

re: #116 experiencedtraveller

re: #91 Shug

Things that are dead:
Britany Spears Music Career

Hey Shug...thats unfair. Britany will be back!
/After she loses 40 pounds and learns how to sing lip sync

fixed

did you just see the report of FNC? what's up with carson daly? He used to be cute. Now his face is skeletal. YUCK!

re: #141 galloping granny

I agree. Good call for a ten year old.

Ya know setting aside for a minute that OBL is a lunatic.
Did you note the newly dyed beard, The rakish placing of his turban, and his best Friday go to mosque clothes?
I think that he is ready to stop bombing European discos and actually go too them to meet women & get down with his bad self.
Or maybe he met a new attractive goat & decided to change his image.

re: #135 David IV of Georgia

re: #130 galloping granny

re: #125 Vagrant

Is anyone else bothered that ABC decided to call it a "martyrdom" video?

Who is it that owns ABC these days again?
I do have to tell you though, I heard an interesting theory last night from my 10 yo grand-kiddo. We were having a late night discussion and she tells me that she has come to the conclusion that there are only a couple of companies in the world, that everything else is part of them and they run everything. Her nominations: ATT and Disney.

What about World Walmart?

No list is complete without {cue "Empire Theme" from Star Wars} Halliburton. /music

Not to mention the lack of any ExxonMobilShellBP conglomerate. You gotta have some Big Oil Hate in there.

OldLineTexan

Maybe we could formulate a new medicine for insurgents/terrorists that colors your beard/hair and clears up coughs at the same time. Grecian Formula 44! The Ultra-medicine of jihadists everywhere!

Of course, the formula would have to include arsenic and spiders.

re: #145 opnion

Osama goes to the petting farm to meet partners, not discos.

Shouldn't the 'truthers' be pissed off at OBL for advancing an alternate theory to their conspiracy?

re: #147 kentuckyjoe

Maybe we could formulate a new medicine for insurgents/terrorists that colors your beard/hair and clears up coughs at the same time. Grecian Formula 44! The Ultra-medicine of jihadists everywhere!

Of course, the formula would have to include arsenic and spiders.

Federal 44 (Magnum) oughta do a better job.

OldLineTexan

Storagemanager:

If we get hit it will be between now and the 15th if you go by the instructions that were given the three German AQ captured.

Those saying the tape's a fraud: don't get caught up in troofer games -- the voice matches, they are current events. The fact that it's a voice over is moot. It's message, not the medium that matters.

re: #145 opnion

Ya know setting aside for a minute that OBL is a lunatic.
Did you note the newly dyed beard, The rakish placing of his turban, and his best Friday go to mosque clothes?
I think that he is ready to stop bombing European discos and actually go too them to meet women & get down with his bad self.
Or maybe he met a new attractive goat & decided to change his image.

That isn't a turban in the same idea as a length of fabric wound around the head. It is the same headgear the Prince Charles of England wears to mosque (his outfit is lavender in one picture), as do many of the imams, including Nasrallah, who has been photoed in similar get-up, though different colors.

re: #149 DesertSage

Shouldn't the 'truthers' be pissed off at OBL for advancing an alternate theory to their conspiracy?

The Jew haters should also be mad. If Osama did it, then the Jooos couldn't have done it like they say. Unless Osama is a Jooo.

re: #125 Vagrant

Actually, I don't have a problem with them calling it a martyrdom video - it puts yet another face on the whole charade that followers of Islam are into peace - their idea of martyrdom is to slaughter thousands of people - murdering them by trapping them in buildings and giving them the choice of burning alive or jumping to their deaths - or obliterated into fragments no bigger than a thumbnail or never even recovered.

These are jihadis who are following Islam. This is what they do. This is how they define themselves.

Yes, the videos show the smug satisfaction of terrorists on their way to kill thousands - taped confessions as it were, but exposing these videos for what they are is paramount.

It's a propaganda video to try and lure others to jihad.

re: #130 galloping granny

re: #125 Vagrant

Is anyone else bothered that ABC decided to call it a "martyrdom" video?

Who is it that owns ABC these days again?

I do have to tell you though, I heard an interesting theory last night from my 10 yo grand-kiddo. We were having a late night discussion and she tells me that she has come to the conclusion that there are only a couple of companies in the world, that everything else is part of them and they run everything. Her nominations: ATT and Disney.

That's TRUE!

It's just like Chinatown in Philadelphia. On the street it looks as though there's dozens of different and interesting restaurants. Under ground it's just one big (happy family) kitchen*!

/ *probably owned by Disney...

re: #149 DesertSage

They should but it doesn't seem to bother them.

I found Ted Kennedy's apperance on Meet the Press Sunday morning far more disturbing than the OBL video.

re: #149 DesertSage

Shouldn't the 'truthers' be pissed off at OBL for advancing an alternate theory to their conspiracy?

uh, like duh, like everybody knows OBL like totally works for the CIA and haliburton as an agent and he's like totally acting like he had anything to do with 9/11 to shift the blame from his jew bosses in the white house

/troofer

re: #149 DesertSage

Shouldn't the 'truthers' be pissed off at OBL for advancing an alternate theory to their conspiracy?

He's a fake conjured uo by Bushitlerhalliburtoncheney to promote the domination of the world by {cue "Empire Theme" again} Halliburton, aka Big Oil, aka I'm a vampire, baby, sucking blood from the Earth.

OldLineTexan

#150 Mr. Texan

That'll work too. We haven't played Cowboys and Muslims yet today have we? (We played Cowboys and Giants last night and by golly we won! We might have a team this year!)

re: #129 lawhawk

re: #123 storagemanager

This isn't the first break in of a candidate in the 2008 presidential race either. Dodd's campaign had a break in as well.

And there was this (linked from boortz last week)

[Link: www.mvgazette.com...]

re: #157 bulwrk

I found Ted Kennedy's apperance on Meet the Press Sunday morning far more disturbing than the OBL video.

His physical appearance, or what he said? Or both.

re: #157 bulwrk

I found Ted Kennedy's apperance on Meet the Press Sunday morning far more disturbing than the OBL video.

Both potential corpses and known killers. I smell a conspiracy...anybody got an empty troofer?

OldLineTexan

re: #157 bulwrk

Did he seem dead to you?

another piece of wisdom from my "co-worker"

"how come we cant find osma?"

well...
lets's see...

last week a small plane went down and we still havent found that.
we loose lots of planes and people in the United States that are never found, but we are expectedto find one person somewhere ins the world?

his response "we should be able to find him, i dont know how, but we should"

typical lack of thinking from the left.

OT

Nest of traitorous vipers

Anti-war leaders stymied, frustrated

A well-known anti-war leader has gone public with the transcript of a private conference call that shows peace activists are exasperated with the Democratic congressional leadership and at a loss for a long-term strategy.

The Aug. 29 call highlights divisions in the Democratic Party that Republicans are gearing up to try to exploit as Congress debates its response to the report on Iraq this week by Gen. David H. Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker.

On Monday, the pair begins two days of testimony on Capitol Hill.

Republicans say the call reflects the degree to which war opponents have failed to gain the advantage that many in both parties thought would build over the summer.

Rabbi Michael Lerner, the editor of Tikkun magazine, posted the transcript Friday on the website of the Network of Spiritual Progressives, of which he is a co-chair.

The transcript shows that opponents of the war in Iraq plan to try to convince freshman Democrats from conservative districts that they might not get reelected unless the party produces something serious in the way of resistance to the war.

But the call shows the war opponents are having little success because of fears about the impact on next year’s elections if the party is seen as defeatist.

Good idea. Post the transcript of a private call so everyone can see what weasely bastards you all are. I'm sure the fencesitters in Congress will be beating a path to your doors now that you feel like talking about this openly.

Still, nice to see they are incompetent and stupid.

re: #165 wargammer2005

ask him where is DB Cooper

I don't watch OBL missives. I'll watch the stuff never meant for public consumption, however. I really don't care what he has to say, I already know he & his submissives want me dead.

This is probably a relative-- perhaps his oldest son made up to look older-- that kid is an absolute nutjob, according to a female journalist who tried to interview him a couple years ago in the UK.

I think I'll re-watch one of the best SouthPark episodes-- Osama Bin Laden has Farty-Pants. That was the first real laugh I had after 9/11. Beautiful take-off on the old Warner Bros. cartoons as well.

#139 Geepers 9/10/07 9:00:17 am reply quote report

Pakistan deports Sharif after return

Sharif, he don't like it.

re: #151 Thanos

Storagemanager:

If we get hit it will be between now and the 15th if you go by the instructions that were given the three German AQ captured.

Those saying the tape's a fraud: don't get caught up in troofer games -- the voice matches, they are current events. The fact that it's a voice over is moot. It's message, not the medium that matters.

Al-Qaida means the base...many groups belong to it...bin Laden is not Islam...Why do people focus on only this man...Islam is killing people all over the world...focus...the could be a signal...bin Laden alive or dead doesn't matter...the jihad will go on.

re: #160 kentuckyjoe

#150 Mr. Texan

That'll work too. We haven't played Cowboys and Muslims yet today have we? (We played Cowboys and Giants last night and by golly we won! We might have a team this year!)

I have nothing against Muslims that are not also Islamofascists. I have a Muslim coworker that I have known for over ten years, and I do not believe he is a part of any grand conspiracy.

OTOH, my own government seems intent on having the entire nation of Mexico move in with me. No doubt they will bring some Islamofascists with them.

OldLineTexan

Who really gives a damn what this bozo says and why is everybody falling all over themselves to discuss, extoll and validate it. Everybody knows that whatever he spouts will be absolute garbage of no value to anyone in any way. Most particularly to Americans. This guy really ought to be running for the democrap's presidential candidacy. He sounds just like them plus with his long, newly invogorated beard, he has that je ne sais pas that could vault him right up there with the hill and balack as a leading candidate. He would certainly have the experience the other's lack as well.
Do you think he looks a little like a dissolute Lincoln?

Rush is playing real transcript of OBL tape right now - mentions George Sorros (sp?)

Oh man I gotta get some work done, 'bye

re: #174 yah

Rush is playing real transcript of OBL tape right now - mentions George Sorros (sp?)

That is a joke!

re: #171 storagemanager

yup

Same crapola from the other day's thread all over again

Where's that guy who was all bent out of shape at me?
I WANT YOU TO ADMIT HE'S ALIVE!

lol

inane!

re: #174 yah

Rush is playing real transcript of OBL tape right now - mentions George Sorros (sp?)

turn on your sarc detector

re: #173 happyface

Who really gives a damn what this bozo says and why is everybody falling all over themselves to discuss, extoll and validate it. Everybody knows that whatever he spouts will be absolute garbage of no value to anyone in any way. Most particularly to Americans. This guy really ought to be running for the democrap's presidential candidacy. He sounds just like them plus with his long, newly invogorated beard, he has that je ne sais pas that could vault him right up there with the hill and balack as a leading candidate. He would certainly have the experience the other's lack as well.
Do you think he looks a little like a dissolute Lincoln?

Are you talking about Osame or old Ted Kennedy?

It was a joke

Actually, we hit a worm hole in time. The Witch of Endor conjured up King Samuel for King Saul. (Samuel, chapter 28) Yeah, that's who it is, not Usama, King Samuel.

Maybe on this tape they can tie some fishing line to a hand so he can gesture now and then. That's my suggestion.

The Democrats should include OBL in their next debate.. most seem to want to be his Vice President now.

OT
US Building Base on Iranian Border...

BARDA, Iraq -- The Pentagon is preparing to build its first base for U.S. forces near the Iraqi-Iranian border, in a major new effort to curb the flow of advanced Iranian weaponry to Shiite militants across Iraq.

Like the post says

Long, long, long overdue...

re: #181 kentuckyjoe

everything old is new again

re: #171 storagemanager

re: #151 Thanos

Storagemanager:

If we get hit it will be between now and the 15th if you go by the instructions that were given the three German AQ captured.

Those saying the tape's a fraud: don't get caught up in troofer games -- the voice matches, they are current events. The fact that it's a voice over is moot. It's message, not the medium that matters.

Al-Qaida means the base...many groups belong to it...bin Laden is not Islam...Why do people focus on only this man...Islam is killing people all over the world...focus...the could be a signal...bin Laden alive or dead doesn't matter...the jihad will go on.

Right, and you find the groups of the same jihadis change the name of the group they put forth for credit depending on the occasion. All long-time lizards know there are only two main rivers of Jihad, and they know the countries they originate in.

I've always advocated killing the son of a cur bitch, but I've changed my mind. We would be better served if we captured his scrawny, hairy ass alive, put him in an orange prison jump suit, and tried him in front of the world.

He sees himself as a martyr, and wants to die as one. He should be denied this, and spend out his life in the Colo. Supermax, watching craft programs and Christian Evangelists on the prison television system.

It would do the Islamomorons good to see this bastard bent over and chained hand and foot, a broken and shameful example of sub humanity.

MoveOn with more nonsense...

[Link: blogs.usatoday.com...]

Children of Islam

...The suicide bomber who rammed a delivery truck packed with explosives into a coast guard barracks in northern Algeria over the weekend, killing 30 officers, was 15 years old, El Watan newspaper said Monday.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Good. We're back!

Has anybody bothered to watch the last installement of "So You Think You Can Jihad" ?

Flashy graphics surround a grainy low-res image of Osama-dummy. After a few seconds of the Osama dummy reading some banal drivel about the 19 mujahadeen. Then the image of Osama-dummy goes freeze-frame while the voice-over reads out all the time significant events: Iraq, the Madrid bombing, Global Warming, etc.

Why did the Osama dummy freeze up? Because it's fake. Osama is dead. If he was alive, then AQ would release a high quality video showing the old creep actually talking, as clear as the videos of Adam Gadhan & Zawahiri.

OT and linkage: in case you needed any further confirmation that the Left/Islam alliance is a natural one, comes this piece via Moonbattery:

Educrats Confirm Their Militant Humorlessness at Ohio State. Van Helsing of Moonbattery excerpted the following quotes:

Do not joke about differences related to race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, gender, ability, socioeconomic background, etc.

[...]

It is the responsibility of any student in the residence halls to report incidents of racial or other discrimination or harassment to residence hall staff.

[...]

Words, actions, and behaviors that inflict or threaten infliction of bodily or emotional harm, whether done intentionally or with reckless disregard, are not permitted.

I think the Leftist doctrine of "treat everything through the eyes of a psychotherapist" and the Islamic one of "It is deadly serious about everything" (Khomeini about Islam) have reached a true state of being a fertilizing dialectic. Though, one might add, that is fertilizing, as in "fertilizer" or the original source thereof.

More linkage. For 9/11, we get an extra dosage of left-wing patriotism, of the "don't question it" type, of course:

Forever The Victims, by James Carroll. Excerpts:

“Why do they hate us?” we asked six years ago, thinking of the terrorists and all who cheered them. The question assumed our innocence and good will. Didn’t our enemies know what we stand for? The United States is the last best hope of Earth, the city on a hill, a freedom-loving people. Our virtue is as self-evident as the truths we hold. When we finally caught our breath in 2001, it was to ask how anyone could have so wished to hurt us?

[...]

If the United States finds a way, eventually, to withdraw from Iraq without ever having reckoned the war as an expressly American evil, then the world will be at risk for its savage replay. That is why this week’s debate matters. It must be informed, above all, by clarity as to who the victims are, and who the perpetrators are. Six years ago, having suffered, we cloaked ourselves in victimhood, which made us dangerous.

Six Years of 9/11 as a License to Kill, by Norman Solomon. Excerpts:

It evokes a tragedy that marks an epoch. From the outset, the warfare state has exploited "9/11," a label at once too facile and too laden with historic weight - giving further power to the tacit political axiom that perception is reality.

[...]

What happened on Sept. 11, 2001, was extraordinary and horrible by any measure. And certainly a crime against humanity. At the same time, it was a grisly addition to a history of human experience that has often included many thousands killed, en masse, by inhuman human choice. It is simply and complexly a factual matter that the U.S. government has participated in outright mass murders directly - in, for example, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Panama, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq - and less directly, through aid to armies terrorizing civilians in Nicaragua, Angola, East Timor and many other countries.

Pigs of War, by the AttnProstitute herself, ranting about Dems who supported the Iraq war back in 2003, indulging in her typical Summer of '69 style. Excerpt:

What if instead of pigs of war in our government, we had elected officials who put humanity before politics and people before profits? Maybe the horrible twin tragedies of the Bush Regime and 9-11 would have never occurred within our borders and the rest of the world could look up to the USA with respect as a true leader in world peace instead of glaring at our shocking and awful quest for empire off the backs of the many who benefit the pocketbooks of the few? It’s not to [sic] late, but we are getting there.

He's got 47 brothers and sisters (sic!). Maybe it fcouldbe one of them.
On Jan 21 2009 after 12 noon, I think GWB will release a statement that OBL has been dead for 4 yrs or so.

so now that OBL is a regular contributor to ABC, like Richard Clarke
why not give him his own show

better hurry up ABC
Comedy Central might beat you to it
and put him on right after Jon Stewart

I don't know what to say that hasn't already been said except this: the REAL Osama would have had Adam Gahdan killed for even hoping he'd go with this last transcript.
Since Adam is moving up the al Qaeda ladder I must assume Osama is either dead or a helpless, drooling puppet shell of his former self.

re: #162 insanity police

His hands were shaking so bad my impression was he should not attempt to do interviews sober.

Academia's revision of history: Jesus and Mohammad, Version 2.0
In the academic redrawing, Christ is confused and the Prophet is a great humanitarian - [Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

re: #165 wargammer2005

last week a small plane went down and we still havent found that.
we loose lots of planes and people in the United States that are never found, but we are expectedto find one person somewhere ins the world?

his response "we should be able to find him, i dont know how, but we should"

typical lack of thinking from the left.

I call this "feelytruth". I know that Stephen Colbert came up with "Truthiness", but I think Feelytruth is a different animal. Truthiness is when you have an idea and you just feel it's right, despite contrary evidence; Feelytruth is the phenomenon feelings leading to half-baked ideas which you can't be bothered to think about, so you just stick with the feeling, but you call it a fact in public.

The new OBL reminds me that we've also had several generations of "Lassie". The series is so beloved by a certain segment of the population that they keep trotting out a new version.

Another good example is Betty Crocker.

The Michigan vs Notre Dame game this week should be a classic. The winner might pull out enough wins to qualify for the Meineke Mufflers Car Care Bowl, and the loser, weelll, it won't be pretty for Carr or the chubby fella.

Wow! Flying pig sighted over the Rhine
How the CIA Helped Germany Foil Terror Plot

With the help of the CIA, German investigators foiled what would likely have been the most devastating terror attack of its kind in the country's history. The plans of a fanatical group of Islamists trained in Pakistan reveal just how great a risk Europe faces.

You mean the evil, torturing, extraordinary renditioning, fascist Amerikkkan CIA actually helped save German lives? And the German media admits that?

re: #196 Adrenalyn

so now that OBL is a regular contributor to ABC, like Richard Clarke
why not give him his own show

So You Think You Can Jihad?

re: #202 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

I'm a Mich Alum. Carr really let me down after I defended him for the last 8 months. He needs to be fired, pronto.

re: #1 insanity police

Kill that POS! If he isn't dead already.

I disagree. Even if he is dead, dig him up and hang him.

OT

For those who missed this (and for those who, justifiably so, still chose to miss this) a OBL puff piece at the Daily Kos:
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]

Here are a couple of choice comments from the Koskidz

%uF0A7 But whatever militant Islam does, it does not frighten me as much as what I believe our government would do afterward by exploiting the event just it did for Iraq. Our basic freedom is at risk, not from al Qaida, but from some of our fellow citizens.

Translation: America is the problem, not militant Islam ...

%uF0A7 If the massive, needless destruction of human lives and property is a measure of insanity, then Bin Laden is no more insane than is George W. Bush. As I see it, the real difference between Bin Laden and George W. Bush is that Bin Laden has far better command of his native language compared to Bush.

Translation: Hate Bush, not OBL ...

On the issue of is he alive or is he dead, probably dead IMHO.

i cant wait till these guys talking down at the general get their asses handed to them when they finally allow him to talk.

re: #87 Golem Akbar

Golem, the troofers are way ahead of you on this. OBL and Bush have been collaborators all along. Together they staged 9/11, and together they continue to steal the world's wealth and murder innocent civilians. It will come to fruition when they jointly share total power over the entire world, i.e., shortly.

Even though our government says this tape of OBL is legit (of course, the FBI keeps telling us to move along, nothing to see here, about suspicious SJS), my question is, his hands. He looked like he had just gotten a French manicure. I can't keep my nails clean for 10 minutes and this guy is living in a cave? It just strikes me as odd.

After looking at the video - AS RELEASED - I will believe OBL is alive when
I see a video of him holding up today's copy of GRANMA with El Comamndante Fidel.

-S-

re: #187 maddogg

I've always advocated killing the son of a cur bitch, but I've changed my mind. We would be better served if we captured his scrawny, hairy ass alive, put him in an orange prison jump suit, and tried him in front of the world.

He sees himself as a martyr, and wants to die as one. He should be denied this, and spend out his life in the Colo. Supermax, watching craft programs and Christian Evangelists on the prison television system.

It would do the Islamomorons good to see this bastard bent over and chained hand and foot, a broken and shameful example of sub humanity.

i still think arapao (sp) should be in charge of all detainees. orange jumpsuits are like sooo 2004 put em in pink ones and as for camps lots of open land in the southwest

re: #155 littleoldlady

It's just like Chinatown in Philadelphia. On the street it looks as though there's dozens of different and interesting restaurants. Under ground it's just one big (happy family) kitchen*!

/ *probably owned by Disney...

And you know that when you call ahead for a "take-away" order your call goes through ATT!

re: #189 storagemanager Hey my friend, I'm sorry I didn't understand your answer on the Dead Thread - when is the official start of Rosh Hashana?

I know that the gov't says OBL is still alive but I still have a strange suspicion that he died a while ago. He is not in the best of health and living cave to cave or wherever can't be helping.

Jewish Year 5768: sunset September 12, 2007 - nightfall September 14, 2007

I just keep thinking of "Weekend at Bernie's."

re: #217 BabbaZee

Happy Rosh Ha-Shanah, achoti!

On September 11th, 2007 I will proudly display my flag. When my flag goes up it will be a condemnation to Shiria law. My flag will represent all that I want to say to OSL and all muslims that believe the way he believes.

My flag will be saying NO TO EVERYTHING IN THE KORAN. This will be the meaning of my displaying of the US Flag.

Drop dead OBL and every single muslim that wants to destroy the US constitution.

I question the miming.

A second tape from Osama bin Laden was recorded in the same location as the video released last week.

WHY are we constantly fed parsed sentences with this dead carcass?
SAME LOCATION? IT"S THE SAME TAPE! Remixed!
The first one is a voice over with screen splits/freeze yet the voice continues without breaks - no one notice that? Some other blogger did - but it's not tricky to see. Blah ba blah blah blah Alhamdallah, blah blah DISJOINTED VIDEO jerk blah blah blah etc etc ad nauseum.
Now, with the same photo, we get the astoundingly bland, "was recorded in the same location as the video release last week."
Where's the "HEY. It's another re-run."
I really don't care about Bin Laden, cause he's dead. HE as a person is already history. His IMAGE is eminently manipulate-able, no surprise. BUT WHO are the people who are SUPPOSED to be on OUR SIDE who are enabling these bald frauds by failing to be straight with the US public - parsing their comments to help preserve the myth that Laden's still a player?
If our Intel services are way ahead of me and are just giving these losers more rope, with which to hang them, then for those hard-working savvy people, I'd take back the rant.

sounds to me like the old joke about the last part of Orson Welles dying... (was that SNL?)

Lets see if they can make this video more fuzzy. With all the new technology and all money for weapons these terrorists can get their hands on, they cannot buy a decent video recorder.

Why do they call these Osama tapes "video?"

He's dead, ya know?

And, on these tapes, here's how they're working the strings. IT'S FREEZE ACTION. So, his lips only move on the "old stuff" ... which you hear in the beginning. And, then, the "masters of techonology FREEZE IT. And, that's where the new stuff flows.

The old stuff? Stuck up there on the walls of a cave in Tora Bora.

Facts don't change, just because you wish them so.

Maybe, we should just call this stuff "chopped liver?"

On U-Tube he'll soon appear "tap, tap, tapping" his Red Shoes, together. Wishful thinking never got better than when Dorothy sang Over The Rainbow.

re: #47 Ojoe

Why don't they dress him in a big white jumpsuit with sequins?

Dateline: Disgraceland.

Oh, gosh. That's terrific. And, I hit the PLUS button. Now that Charles provides.

re: #218 jill e

I just keep thinking of "Weekend at Bernie's."

Me, too.