Can I get an 8th moonbat?

Crocker talking about context. Comparing old Iraq to New Iraq.

are there any pink shirts left to pout and cuss?

My son's Air Force colonel father-in-law's look-alike, done well. :)

/waves

Let's cut the dem crap and win the Iraq war!

I sure wish the Chairman would say something like "all those who believe freedom of speech is for themselves only, will be removed and prosecuted."
But I know I'm just dreaming here.

The previous thread just exploded!

There are about dozen moonbats left in the back row...we're not halfway through the irrational outbursts yet.

I cannot understand how someone in a pink/red mumu with a peace sign painted on it and wearing a crown, standing up and screaming, would think that anyone would listen to what they have to say.
What asshats!
THAT is what a kossack looks like.
THAT is the democrapic party.

There's more. I saw more pink. Moonbat eruptions in the offing.

Is he saying Saddam wasn't a swell guy? More leftie heads explode.

My live stream went wonky there---happen to anyone else?

Don't know much about the ambassador, but his voice sounds kinda shaky to me

I wonder what they would say if the General asked them why he was there and what it is that they want?

re: #9 vrwc_merc

There are about dozen moonbats left in the back row...we're not halfway through the irrational outbursts yet.

Yeah, noticed that. I'm just waiting...

re: #10 ArmyAunt

I wonder, there is no dress code to get in there, including a part that says no signs...

It's sad that these gentlemen have really good things to say, but the left will not listen and just accuse them of being Bush minions and not heed any of the valuable information.

Selling federalism to Iraqis, especially the Sunnis.

Somebody just give them a calendar and point what year it is. 2007 not 1967.

Yo MAMMA is a Moonbat!
';)

Where are the trolls?

Wow, whats with the pink...

I wonder how all that plays out across the general population. You know, those other folks.

Ghst

re: #13 RedDish

Me and him dont get along lol

re: #13 RedDish

re: #13 RedDish

My live stream went wonky there---happen to anyone else?

Don't know much about the ambassador, but his voice sounds kinda shaky to me

Still streaming here.

re: #20 Galactacus

Yo MAMMA is a Moonbat!
';)

That's just...mean.

Because civil disobedience is still disobedience. I'm buying this shirt, soon

re: #17 Sponge

It's sad that these gentlemen have really good things to say, but the left will not listen and just accuse them of being Bush minions and not heed any of the valuable information.

It's called Cognative Dissonance.

Charles said:

I’ve counted seven screaming moonbats who had to be physically ejected so far...

What I don't get is why these oh-so-obvious protesters were even granted admittance to the proceedings. The way they dress pretty much points to the fact that they intend to disrupt. So why risk letting these tards in at all? Yeah, I know, democracy and all, but hey, it doesn't matter what was going to be said by Petraeus, these idjits were going to have there one minute of scream-fest fame.

I don't get it.

"Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan was arrested Monday in or near the hearing room where General David Petraeus and U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker are testifying on the situation in Iraq, according to the U.S. Capitol Police."

Huzzah!

People don't know what Code Pink is except in a vague way. Then they see these oddball harridans jumping up and screaming, in contrast to a calm, disciplined soldier like Petraeus. The contrast is HIGHLY educational. I think CP just nailed a stake into the heart of the ani-war movement (at least for a while).

re: #24 vrwc_merc

Still streaming here.

Fixed.

Nutz are CodePink, no brains and they stink.

re: #21 Peacekeeper

Bottomfeeding...

Where's that damn peace duck, or goose? Maybe we could have it "just poop" on those code pink loons.

I’ve counted seven screaming moonbats who had to be ejected so far...

Seven fewer trolls on LGF following the two open threads, or seven ejected from the general's speech ? Could be either .

re: #27 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Still very sad.

re: #23 BabbaZee

Sigh. Thanks Babba

So where are all the Righty protestors?
"Yeah! Yeah! Let's go kick some Islamofascist ass!"

..I just don't see it happening. Too much self respect and dignity, I think.

And the leftist nuts wonder why we call them crazy.

I feeling another moonbat within five minutes tops.

The Iraqi government without much public fanfare, has approached former Iraq military with pensions and conditional amnesty.

seven screaming moonbats

Rotating title... oh never mind.

None of the outbursts will make the news and most people are at work although it does seem that quite a few are listening to this.

re: #29 Argath93

"Anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan was arrested Monday in or near the hearing room where General David Petraeus and U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Ryan Crocker are testifying on the situation in Iraq, according to the U.S. Capitol Police."

Huzzah!

MSNBC reported that she was in the room.

I just hope the saggy breast bunch doesn't show up and show off. Yikes!

"I’ve counted seven screaming moonbats who had to be physically ejected so far..."

I bet a lot of those recent newbies (not all! Don't get yer dander up!) have been lying in wait for just such an opportunity...blog snipers!

Did you see this already:

Cindy Sheehan arrested at Petraeus hearing

re: #37 RedDish

sorry!
lol

BBL

re: #38 Speegon

So where are all the Righty protestors?
"Yeah! Yeah! Let's go kick some Islamofascist ass!"

..I just don't see it happening. Too much self respect and dignity, I think.

And the leftist nuts wonder why we call them crazy.

There are pro war folks in DC this week. Most are not scheduled to arrive until the 15th but they still won't act like this.

AP already has stuff up: [Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]
Rep. Tom Lantos, D-Calif., hailed Petraeus and a second witness, Ambassador Ryan Crocker, as “two of our nation’s most capable public servants.”

And yet, he quickly said, “military progress without political progress is meaningless...We need to get out of Iraq, for that country’s sake and for our own.”

Skelton is chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, while Lantos chairs the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

Now when I listened to Count Chocula, er Lantos, on Rush, Lantos was accusing the General of being a liar. Funny how spin works...

AH COUNT CHOCULA!

scares me when they change the camera to other parts of the room

Who will be louder and more annoying today: The Codestink protesters or Obertraitor?

Devolution of power through federalism considered by some to ensure that a strongman will not reemerge.

re: #46 paxnhymn

"I’ve counted seven screaming moonbats who had to be physically ejected so far..."

I bet a lot of those recent newbies (not all! Don't get yer dander up!) have been lying in wait for just such an opportunity...blog snipers!

My dander is up.

re: #30 joncelli

People don't know what Code Pink is except in a vague way. Then they see these oddball harridans jumping up and screaming, in contrast to a calm, disciplined soldier like Petraeus. The contrast is HIGHLY educational. I think CP just nailed a stake into the heart of the ani-war movement (at least for a while).

Thats why I IMPLORE you all to Watch Washington Journal EVERY MORNING!
Brian Lamb has created a Wonderful way to pass out enough rope to the Libaloons to hang themselves..and this is Everyday! Sure would be nice if the Lizards started showing up...

re: #47 sugiero

I thought I recognized her shrill squeelings.

re: #44 BrianA

I just hope the saggy breast bunch doesn't show up and show off. Yikes!

i don't think they will. unfortunately for them you need a job to buy a plane ticket from san fran to DC.

re: #47 sugiero

Did you see this already:

Cindy Sheehan arrested at Petraeus hearing

I thought she quit the "peace movement!" SHE LIES!

Well the Code Pinkos are achieving their objective.

People are talking about them instead of General Petraeus' report.

Seems the Ambassador is talking "Soft Partition" after a fashion,or, am I missing something?

-S-

re: #49 Just_A_Grunt

re: #38 Speegon

So where are all the Righty protestors?
"Yeah! Yeah! Let's go kick some Islamofascist ass!"

..I just don't see it happening. Too much self respect and dignity, I think.

And the leftist nuts wonder why we call them crazy.

There are pro war folks in DC this week. Most are not scheduled to arrive until the 15th but they still won't act like this.

Yep. I'll be there, too.

I'd love to see the pinko's but Fox isn't moving its camera. The camera guy asleep or what?

Context is everything, and creating a semi-stable environment in Iraq is an extremely difficult task. It's even moreso when you have thugocracies and islamofascists on the borders hoping to render Iraq into scraps for the taking. al Qaeda needs the US efforts to be hamstrung by Congress and public opinion because they can't affect matters in Iraq with attacks on US forces since we're good at killing and rolling up al Qaeda cells there. They need the media to do what they cannot on the battlefield - turn the tide against the US and get a withdrawal opening up a safe haven.

The Iraqi polity needs to get its head screwed on straight - to realize not only the threats posed by the various militias, but what it would mean if the US withdraws. They would be surrounded by wolves licking their chops. Under most circumstances this might get the various groups to compromise, but some are hoping that the situation gets tilted to their advantage so that they get total power. Hence, we get political gridlock, even as the military is making significant advances on the security situation.

re: #54 reine.de.tout

get over it...

re: #52 insanity police

Who will be louder and more annoying today: The Codestink protesters or Obertraitor?

There's a difference?

re: #21 Peacekeeper

Where are the trolls?

On television. Wearing pink.

re: #46 paxnhymn

Dorothy was here, but she wokked TOTO for Hsu.

I feel that MoveOn full page add in the NYT was much more of an insult to Petraeus then anything these Code Pink moonbats have accomplished so far today.

The friggin Iraq government needs to get it's shit together before 08 ..

re: #21 Peacekeeper

Where are the trolls?

I've been labelled here as such, what stupid thing can I say to cement my reputation?

re: #63 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

cspan 3 showed the pinkos getting ejected.

I've only seen 3 of them, and only 1 seemed to resist.

old and fugly one she was too... screaming at the top of her lungs.

I'm sure in a couple days I'll get the next CodePINK email telling me what a martyr those ladies are.

re: #58 insanity police

Nah, she was arrested on principle. ;)

Amb. Crocker cites August 22 joint agreement on de-Baathification and provincial powers, as well as continuing U.S. military presence.

I think politically we expect the Infant Iraq to run when they have yet to barely crawl. It sounds to me that the Ambassador is stating that the Babe is working on it- we'd be wise to remember we're dealing with a baby- but a baby that is learning.

I just hope Code Pink isn't something that Larry Flynt started. You think saggy boobs are unattractive.l

re: #66 AthosAbsolutely no difference. Just about broke the tv last night when tuned into the Giants-Cowboys game and here's uberdorkman.

re: #71 LanceKates

re: #63 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

cspan 3 showed the pinkos getting ejected.

I've only seen 3 of them, and only 1 seemed to resist.

old and fugly one she was too... screaming at the top of her lungs.

I'm sure in a couple days I'll get the next CodePINK email telling me what a martyr those ladies are.

Ewww...you pollute your inbox with that shite?

re: #66 Athos

not a big difference

Next BDS suffering moonbat ejection vote...VOTE NOW!

Keith Olbermann

Cindy Sheehan (woops, already arrested, sorry!)

Sean Penn (wait, can't smoke at Pelosi's House)

Britney Spears

Fitty Cent

(Before you criticize my inclusion of any of these people in the vote list, please realize that it is a farce that anyone pays any attention to any of these people at any time for any reason. Yet people do. Millions of people do.
I am simply reflecting today's warped choices)

re: #44 BrianA

I just hope the saggy breast bunch doesn't show up and show off. Yikes!

BRAIN BLEACH!

i had to get my kid off the bus, incase i missed a moonbat outcry.

Drink!

Did he just mention the Fred smoking topic? smoking results in cut-off fingers...

re: #71 LanceKates

re: #63 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
I'm sure in a couple days I'll get the next CodePINK email telling me what a martyr those ladies are.

Suicide moonbats?

re: #43 Speegon

On cue.

Because it's all about her..

Four anti-war protesters were arrested for disorderly conduct. One of them, who was not named, is being taken to George Washington Hospital “due to complaint of injury” is also charged with assault on a police officer.

According to the information from the Capitol Police, Sheehan and the other three were shouting in a hallway.

Sheehan was the face of the anti-war movement before saying in May of this year that she would “retire” from the cause. Shortly thereafter, she announced that she would seek the congressional seat of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).

re: #59 Geepers

You've got a point. It could be that the MSM will emphasize the protesters in order to de-emphasize the report, which is devastating to the Demonrats. Let's just hope that the truth gets out around the MSM blockade.

re: #80 MandyManners

re: #44 BrianA

I just hope the saggy breast bunch doesn't show up and show off. Yikes!

BRAIN BLEACH!

Do you have enough to share? ...please?

re: #72 Argath93

re: #58 insanity police

Nah, she was arrested on principle. ;)

Her son is rolling over in his grave.

So that's where Fred! got the smoking information! Cutting off fingers? BZ would be typing with a pencil in her teeth, six months ago.

re: #65 paxnhymn

yessir

Kos says:

No one trusts Petraeus or his White House-authored "report". The testimony today is irrelevant.

I trust and respect General Patraeus. The truth is that only a moonbat would trust anything Kos says or posts. I get a good laugh or two from his rants. Kos is irrelevant.

How much you want to bet the networks don't mention the screming moonbat interruptiosn.

The left does not want open discourse. They want to silence anyone who disagrees with them.

The fact Gen. Petraeus was interrupted by these lunatics just disgusts me.

re: #79 NoRINOzone

I though Fitty Cent liked Bush. He said he wanted to be like him.

Petraeus Slides

[Link: www.politico.com...]
ber_2007.pdf

Petraeus Testimony

[Link: www.politico.com...]
7.pdf

re: #92 insanity police

That sounds bad.

re: #77 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

yup. know thine enemy.

I forward a few of the really crazy ones to some friends.

I have yet to see them actually do anything constructive... just a rampant and ugly hatred of anyone to the right of McCain.

They also took credit for the 06 election.

yeah, like a bunch of aged tarts wearing pink clothing is taken seriously by voters. I'd listen to members of the "red hat society' before these whackjobs.

Jesus ma-rumba!

I cant even hardly keep up with all three threads, the CSPAN feed, and moonbat snipings...

-q

... cutting off fingers for smoking ... thanks R. Crocker for exposing the cruelty of Radical Isamists.

The press will make the shrill moonbat rage lunacy sound like it was a dignified and selfless attempt to express all the people's outrage at the continuation of "Bush's War for Oil": "The evil Bush-gestapo stifled these brave souls' voices."

re: #90 Shanimal1918

I get a good laugh or two from his rants. Kos is irrelevant.

And painfully preditable.

re: #73 Dar ul Harb

Amb. Crocker cites August 22 27 joint agreement on de-Baathification and provincial powers, as well as continuing U.S. military presence.

[Corrected date]

re: #47 sugiero

Let's see, a group of large, smelly, arm-pit hair wearing nut-jobs dressed in pink, yet they let 'em into these hearings? It's not like any of this was unexpected...That Mother Moonbat was there is also no surprise...
I say let them in - they just keep making the point for us.

re: #83 Mazeman

nah... but to them, martyr includes being arrested for being a whackjob in a public place, disturbing the peace, or throwing eggs at conservatives.

These are our leaders:

"'No one wants to call [Petraeus] a liar on national TV,' noted one Democratic senator, who spoke on the condition on anonymity. 'The expectation is that the outside groups will do this for us.'"
... Nice to know these folks have the courage of their convictions. . . .

link

re: #62 ploome hineni

LOL. Fine. Just taser them all as they come in and take away their signs. Any who don't get the message are frog-marched out in handcuffs with a baton swat upside the head. Do it once and the rest would reconsider their idiocy.

Bush lied!

Saddam was better for the Iraqi People!

We're torturing thousands of our own citizens!

/Putting on the moonbat suit...just for laughs...

Predictable

re: #95 LanceKates

re: #77 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

yup. know thine enemy.

I forward a few of the really crazy ones to some friends.

I have yet to see them actually do anything constructive... just a rampant and ugly hatred of anyone to the right of McCain.

They also took credit for the 06 election.

yeah, like a bunch of aged tarts wearing pink clothing is taken seriously by voters. I'd listen to members of the "red hat society' before these whackjobs.

You must have a strong stomach. I'm so sick of this ilk and especially the leftie politicians. They make me nauseous. Literally.

what I wouldn't give to hear them mention CAIR somewhere in this report.

re: #100 Dar ul Harb

re: #73 Dar ul Harb

Amb. Crocker cites August 22 27 joint agreement on de-Baathification and provincial powers, as well as continuing U.S. military presence.

[Corrected date]

About time...you know that its some positive political progress, because most of the defeatocrats and MSM have pretty well ignored it.

Well, I certainly hope the Capitol police don't have to deal with the Code Pink mascot.

/that could be a standoff

Sing with me...to the tune of "Love Shack"...

Moonbats, Bay-bee Moonbats!
Moonbats, Bay-bee Moonbats!

re: #89 reine.de.tout

re: #65 paxnhymn

yessir

at ease troop! I didn't know you wuzz frum BR... I was born and raised in Lafayette...course I've lived in AL for 25 years so my heart is in Dixie now...

(there's a country song in there somewhere.)

slide link

About time...

Is about the mentioning of the agreement, not correcting the date.

re: #90 Shanimal1918

Kos says:

No one trusts Petraeus or his White House-authored "report". The testimony today is irrelevant.

Ah- the favored tactic of re-framing and dismissing the point out of hand. That way he needn't prove any of it wrong, you see. There is no point in refuting it because it's propaganda. kosling problem solved.

re: #110 Killian Bundy

Well, I certainly hope the Capitol police don't have to deal with the Code Pink mascot.

/that could be a standoff

I could have really done without that picture in my mind!

Four anti-war protesters were arrested for disorderly conduct. One of them, who was not named, is being taken to George Washington Hospital “due to complaint of injury” is also charged with assault on a police officer.
According to the information from the Capitol Police, Sheehan and the other three were shouting in a hallway.

Sheehan was the face of the anti-war movement before saying in May of this year that she would “retire” from the cause. Shortly thereafter, she announced that she would seek the congressional seat of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).

She's just looking for some free campaign press.

re: #107 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

eh, it gets tiring, and sometimes I just hit delete without reading, but reading their drivel and picking up on the crazy stuff is the least I can do for my community and country. heh.

re: #97 Piglet-U93

... cutting off fingers for smoking ... thanks R. Crocker for exposing the cruelty of Radical Isamists.

shhh...don't want to give bloomberg any ideas

re: #110 Killian Bundy

EVERYTHING IS RUINED FOREVER

I am trying sooo hard to listen to this guy, but my mind wanders off to Code Pink and sagging breasts! GAG

Is anyone else having this trouble, or is it just my opinion of this guy's speaking skills after the General's

re: #92 insanity police

He meant he liked Bush because Laura is a teacher and knows how to use correct grammar...plurals, etc...

I utterly shocked

BBC NEWS "US surge plan in Iraq 'working' "

USATODAY "Petraeus says troop build-up is improving Iraq's security"

CNN "Iraq 'surge' working, Petraeus tells Congress"

Prior to witnessing the shrieking protesters at this hearing, I had no idea that moonbats were actual members of the bat species. I always thought it was just a cheeky name, but no - they really are bats!

But I thought the central goverment wasn't working and yet the Ambassador just ratttled off a list of things they have done, even though now he is saying there are issues, but how many of those meetings, other then reading it in the blogs, made it to the news?

My observation: If people don't have good information, they go with belief. Although I understand the need by our government (regardless of political affiliation) to act covertly for our own good, such action breeds weirdness in the body politic. (Not an excuse, just a reason.)

re: #115 Sharmuta

re: #90 Shanimal1918

Kos says:

No one trusts Petraeus or his White House-authored "report". The testimony today is irrelevant.

Ah- the favored tactic of re-framing and dismissing the point out of hand. That way he needn't prove any of it wrong, you see. There is no point in refuting it because it's propaganda. kosling problem solved.

exactly. sounds like pre-emptive book burning.

joncelli (#85),

Oh guaranteed. The MSM will make these screeching freaks out to be "popular resistance" to General Petraeus' "lies".

re: #98 David IV of Georgia

The press will make the shrill moonbat rage lunacy sound like it was a dignified and selfless attempt to express all the people's outrage at the continuation of "Bush's War for Oil": "The evil Bush-gestapo stifled these brave souls' voices."

How true... if you have the stomach just watch Olberman tonight.

re: #122 paxnhymn

Fo sho.

/sarc

Crocker doing a nice job of summarizing the intentionaLLLy ignored development efforts.

"Team-leaders"? Target in Iraq?

Smiles.

re: #45 buzzsawmonkey

So, what are we going to do today, train?

Same thing we do every day, Pinky... try and blabber inconsistently about things we don't understand.

He's put almost all of us to sleep!

re: #121 RedDish

I am trying sooo hard to listen to this guy, but my mind wanders off to Code Pink and sagging breasts! GAG

Is anyone else having this trouble, or is it just my opinion of this guy's speaking skills after the General's

He's a diplomat (read: boring bureaucrat)--they're supposed to be as boring as watching paint dry. It's part of the job requirements.

The General is a leader
The Ambassador is a manager
See the difference

The expansion of Islam into Asia was (and is) financed by opium derived from poppies.

The expansion of Islam into Africa was financed by the caffeine derived from the cola nut.

Weird how that works, huh?

re: #116 BrianA

OMG! I was just getting ready to take a bite of my lunch - thats not gonna' happen now - spewage of breakfast is more likely...

re: #127 bosforus

sounds like pre-emptive book burning.

They had the fires ready weeks ago.

re: #137 Just_A_Grunt

Great point.

re: #121 RedDish

Yes, this guy doesn't inspire you to really listen closely .. too monotone I think.

C'mon, bring on the crazies! It's been almost 10 minutes!

re: #137 Just_A_Grunt

The General is a leader
The Ambassador is a manager
See the difference

Ya...The ambassador is beginning to lose my attention.

137 Just a Grunt

(For some reason the "Reply" "quote" and "report" links are gone)

the Democrats, however, are neither leaders or managers, just leaches and rotters.

re: #137 Just_A_Grunt

Bingo

I never had this problem listening to John Bolton tho

I think it's fair to say the Left opposes the freedom of speech for anyone but themselves. They brag about shutting down conservatives who come to speak on campus, try to silence an officer reporting to Congress, and want cops to police "fairness" on the radio.

rush just called them "big fat ugly women"

Good to hear him talk about Iran and Syria's role.

'Saudi Arabia is going to open an embassy in Baghdad"
That ain't progress.

Talking Syria now. Kucinich could not be reached for comment.

re: #144 vrwc_merc

re: #137 Just_A_Grunt

The General is a leader
The Ambassador is a manager
See the difference

Ya...The ambassador is beginning to lose my attention.

Well try to focus. Just because he's boring doen't mean what he has to say isn't important.

Sorry..I'm stating the obvious, aren't I.

/lecture-mommy mode

Crocker slams Iran for its dis-ingenuity in the region. Excellent.

re: #148 nyc redneck

rush just called them "big fat ugly women"

ROTFLMAO!

re: #60 Dr. Shalit

It does sound that way; federalism of the loosest variety.

Give 'em a few years of that, and I think they'll need to try something else, hopefully not a "man on horseback."

Kucinich has actually left DC, and is hiding under the rock from which he came and bankrupted Cleveland.

re: #152 taxfreekiller

Perfect.

This just in...

Obama and Iraq

From an email press release:

“Changing the definition of success to stay the course with the wrong policy is the wrong course for our troops and our national security. The time to end the surge and to start bringing our troops home is now – not six months from now. The Iraqi government is not achieving the political progress that was the stated purpose of the surge, and in key areas has gone backwards. Our military cannot sustain its current deployments without crippling our ability to respond to contingencies around the world. It’s time for a change of direction that brings our troops home, applies real pressure on the Iraqis to act, surges our diplomacy, and addresses Iraq’s urgent humanitarian crisis. I can only support a policy that begins an immediate removal of our troops from Iraq’s civil war, and initiates a sustained drawdown of our military presence.”

Obama surrenders!

It will be interesting to read the history books in twenty years to see how these hearings were key or will they just be a blip?

New poster to LGF, by the way.

re: #146 RedDish

re: #137 Just_A_Grunt

Bingo

I never had this problem listening to John Bolton tho

Crocker is more of a bureaucrat / manager wonk...Bolton is someone from State who is a leader and not a bureaucrat or manager.

re: #150 EC Marm

'Saudi Arabia is going to open an embassy in Baghdad"
That ain't progress.

...hide the little boys...

But, oddly enough, don't seem to think MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, ad infinitum, have a Democrat bias.

moonbat snipers wearing pink? moonbat wearing diapers that are pink, moonbat lips filling diapers that stink

re: #140 Sharmuta

re: #127 bosforus

sounds like pre-emptive book burning.

They had the fires ready weeks ago.

Yeah, I noticed a huuuge shift in Kos' views about the report a few weeks ago. They used to talk about dem representatives comparing the public report to the private report and exposing all the lies that were being fed to the public. I've been a little busy the last two weeks and was actually surprised to see now that they've gone with the 'finger in ears we're not listening' approach. Guess I shouldn't be that surprised.

re: #160 cinnabar

History will tell. I'm skeptical. Even if we are winning the Dems can still force our surrender. Anything can happen.

re: #160 cinnabar

Welcome to LGF.

re: #159 Killgore Trout

This just in...

Obama and Iraq

From an email press release:

“Changing the definition of success to stay the course with the wrong policy is the wrong course for our troops and our national security. The time to end the surge and to start bringing our troops home is now – not six months from now. The Iraqi government is not achieving the political progress that was the stated purpose of the surge, and in key areas has gone backwards. Our military cannot sustain its current deployments without crippling our ability to respond to contingencies around the world. It’s time for a change of direction that brings our troops home, applies real pressure on the Iraqis to act, surges our diplomacy, and addresses Iraq’s urgent humanitarian crisis. I can only support a policy that begins an immediate removal of our troops from Iraq’s civil war, and initiates a sustained drawdown of our military presence.”

Obama surrenders!

Hey Dems! Better nominate Shrillary if you even want a chance at '08.

Good job, Crocker. Diplo-speak about governance and sustainable development is soporific for most. At least you put the moonbats to sleep.

re: #159 Killgore Trout
Somebody please 'fluff' the covers over his head.

Doesn't the royal court always have jesters and fools around to amuse the nobility?

No one can guarantee success in Iraq.

They couldn't guarantee success when we revolted against England.

"Our course is hard- Failure is worse."

Perfect.

Cant find the WSJ article but here is the Al Jazeera one

[Link: english.aljazeera.net...]

US plans military base near Iran

The US continuously accuses Iran of destabilising
Iraq [GALLO/GETTY]

The Pentagon plans to build a military base near the Iran-Iraq border, according to the Wall Street Journal.

The newspaper quoted a senior US army commander as saying that the base will be used to try and prevent the flow of weapons by Shia fighters into Iraq.

Major-General Rick Lynch, the commander of the US army’s 3rd Infantry Division, said that the Pentagon also plans to build checkpoints on major highways leading from the Iranian border to Baghdad.

X-ray machines will be installed, as well as explosive-detecting sensors, the paper reported.

Lynch also told the Journal that "we've got a major problem with Iranian munitions streaming into Iraq. This Iranian interference is troubling and we have to stop it".

The base will be located about four miles from the Iranian border and will be used for at least two years.

'Cutting-off supplies'

US officials told the paper that it is unclear whether it will be among the small number of facilities that would remain in Iraq after any future withdrawal from the US military.

The report comes on the same day as General David Petraeus, the top US commander in Iraq and Ryan Crocker, the US ambassador to Iraq, present a report to the US congress on the war.

Jonathan Withington, a Pentagon spokesman, told Reuters news agency that he could not comment on the specifics of the planned base, but said that "coalition and Iraqi partners will continue to put pressure on the enemy, including disruptions of any supply lines, in an effort to reduce violence and to protect the Iraqi people".

Major Toby Logsdon, a US officer overseeing the project, said the new base will have living quarters for at least 200 soldiers, who could arrive in November.

Logsdon said: "Iran will know this is here - they will have to rethink how they do things, and the smugglers will have to rethink how they do things."

US officials accuse Iran of fomenting violence to destabilise Iraq and of seeking to build nuclear weapons under the cover of a civilian nuclear programme, charges Iran has denied.

re: #147 Beagle

Yup. But, that's nothing new... The left is for "Freedom of Speech" as long as it is their speech protected, they don't care about our speech.

The left is for Charity... as long as their money is protected, they don't care how much they force us to pay through taxes for social welfare.

The left is for security, as long as it is they who are protected, they don't care about our security (as evidenced by their desire for gun control and their coddling of the criminal and concern for the 'rights' of a criminal over those of the victim.)

etc. etc. etc.

"Our current course is hard. The alternatives are far worse."

Well said, Amb. Crocker!

"The Iranian president has already announced that Iran will fill any vacuum in Iraq."
--Amb. Crocker's pointed warning to the Defeatocrats

re: #115 Sharmuta

re: #90 Shanimal1918

Kos says:

No one trusts Petraeus or his White House-authored "report". The testimony today is irrelevant.

Ah- the favored tactic of re-framing and dismissing the point out of hand. That way he needn't prove any of it wrong, you see. There is no point in refuting it because it's propaganda. kosling problem solved.

you only count if you agree with me! if you don't agree with me how can you be right

/narcissism much?

re: #171 David IV of Georgia

There's nobility in Congress?!

Good Lord! The Hamsters can't take this abuse! They're gonna blow.

re: #143 Argath93

C'mon, bring on the crazies! It's been almost 10 minutes!

They probably only aimed to disrupt Petraeus, and don't have any energy focussed at Crocker or of any other conservatives but Patraeus, and didn't even pay any attention to whoever else was going to be talking at this hearing, They've done their bad deed for today.

re: #168 justacanuck

I think she's their only hope at this point. It'll be an interesting test of Koskidz power because they're going to try really hard to make sure she's not nominated.

If I were programming for the Fall at West Point I'd include a new course: Examining the enemy-within 101.
Topics include political correctness used as tool to intimidate and silence free discourse.
When peer pressure becomes anarchistic.
Identifying the calling cry and uniform of the emasculated moonbaticus.
When free speech becomes treason.
Followed by a course called:
USA, still worth fighting for.

re: #159 Killgore Trout

This just in...

Obama and Iraq

From an email press release:

“Changing the definition of success to stay the course with the wrong policy is the wrong course for our troops and our national security. The time to end the surge and to start bringing our troops home is now – not six months from now. The Iraqi government is not achieving the political progress that was the stated purpose of the surge, and in key areas has gone backwards. Our military cannot sustain its current deployments without crippling our ability to respond to contingencies around the world. It’s time for a change of direction that brings our troops home, applies real pressure on the Iraqis to act, surges our diplomacy, and addresses Iraq’s urgent humanitarian crisis. I can only support a policy that begins an immediate removal of our troops from Iraq’s civil war, and initiates a sustained drawdown of our military presence.”

Obama surrenders!

He can't "surrender." He's muslim. Just ask his dad.

re: #159 Killgore Trout

This just in...

Obama and Iraq

From an email press release:

“Changing the definition of success to stay the course with the wrong policy is the wrong course for our troops and our national security. The time to end the surge and to start bringing our troops home is now – not six months from now. The Iraqi government is not achieving the political progress that was the stated purpose of the surge, and in key areas has gone backwards. Our military cannot sustain its current deployments without crippling our ability to respond to contingencies around the world. It’s time for a change of direction that brings our troops home, applies real pressure on the Iraqis to act, surges our diplomacy, and addresses Iraq’s urgent humanitarian crisis. I can only support a policy that begins an immediate removal of our troops from Iraq’s civil war, and initiates a sustained drawdown of our military presence.”

Obama surrenders!

How many doubt this was prepared in advance and held for its release now? It's just more of the "I don't care what the professional's on the scene say, I will do what my base / financial backers tell me to do."

If we abondon Iraq, be prepared for a million Iraqi immigrants refugees coming to a US town near you.

I would prefer they stay in Iraq. A safe, secure Iraq.

I'm trying REAL hard to watch on FOX right now. That stupid animated logo in the bottom right corner is really annoying me.

re: #178 Dar ul Harb

"The Iranian president has already announced that Iran will fill any vacuum in Iraq."
--Amb. Crocker's pointed warning to the Defeatocrats

And especially Mr. Lantos, one imagines.

re: #70 amused

re: #21 Peacekeeper

Where are the trolls?

I've been labelled here as such, what stupid thing can I say to cement my reputation?

Confine yourself to commenting on the weather and you'll be just fine.

re: #182 NomadOfNorad

re: #143 Argath93

C'mon, bring on the crazies! It's been almost 10 minutes!

They probably only aimed to disrupt Petraeus, and don't have any energy focussed at Crocker or of any other conservatives but Patraeus, and didn't even pay any attention to whoever else was going to be talking at this hearing, They've done their bad deed for today.

Or Amb. Crocker has put them to sleep with his "Ambasador's Voice of Lethe"

re: #160 cinnabar

It will be interesting to read the history books in twenty years to see how these hearings were key or will they just be a blip?

New poster to LGF, by the way.

...just a speedbump on the way to the caliphate, I'm afraid (if we don't effing wake up!).

re: #179 blutonazi98

/narcissism much?

Markos? Never!

/lmao

re: #142 turn

Yes, this guy doesn't inspire you to really listen closely .. too monotone I think.

Plus patreaus had more bling.

Moonbat protest time? They're running a little behind schedule.

re: #183 Killgore Trout

re: #168 justacanuck

I think she's their only hope at this point. It'll be an interesting test of Koskidz power because they're going to try really hard to make sure she's not nominated.

I hope she wins the nomination. The polls that show that about 40% of americans (dems and reps) would never vote for her regardless makes me happy.

re: #170 EC Marm

I like how he's so eager to surrender he didn't even wait until the testimony was over with. With the dems it's become a question of who can surrender the fastest.

P.S. Did you see that Fred had a big bounce in the polls today?

re: #184 daughter of patriots

If I were programming for the Fall at West Point I'd include a new course: Examining the enemy-within 101.
Topics include political correctness used as tool to intimidate and silence free discourse.
When peer pressure becomes anarchistic.
Identifying the calling cry and uniform of the emasculated moonbaticus.
When free speech becomes treason.
Followed by a course called:
USA, still worth fighting for.

perfect

Q & A with 5 minute rule.

Petraeus is a good man. Obama and Hillary are not good men.

Obama and Iraq

obama is a shitbrick...and I don't mean that because his skin is brown, I mean that because he is a pile of shit that resembles a brick.

Petraeus definetly Leader of the A-team.

And the Dem's hate it when a plan comes together.

/that they didn't think of or can take credit for.

Gah! CNN went to ads! Back to FOX!

The moonbats have fallen asleep, too!

Oh, now come the slanted, wrong-headed questions... :-D

ok, time for the bloviating questions.

re: #112 paxnhymn

re: #89 reine.de.tout

at ease troop! I didn't know you wuzz frum BR... I was born and raised in Lafayette...course I've lived in AL for 25 years so my heart is in Dixie now...

(there's a country song in there somewhere.)

I wuzz and still am ... and you're still just next-door!

I got logged out and couldn't get back in for 100 comments...

Why do we have to help pay for their infrastructure? They are the ones with the oil.

Is the five minute rule for the question or the answer? ;)

Skelton's 1 Question? All this, and the nitwit asks only 1 question? Why am I expecting a monologue before a lame question being asked?

oh oh here it comes rep ike is going to start the crazy

Oooh, emotional and irrelevant make-a-statement-disguised-as-a-question time!

It seems the plan is for moonbats to bark when Petraeus speaks. They'll shut up whenever Crocker's responding.

grabbing the airsick bag for q/a

re: #200 insanity police

Petraeus is a good man. Obama and Hillary are not good men.

hillary's more of a man than a lot of men. no offense meant towards men.

re: #206 LanceKates

ok, time for the bloviating questions.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to the questions, but they need to hurry up or I'm going to miss it...

Rush just called the Code Pinkos "fat ugly old women."

That pretty much sums it up.

Was this idiot not listening?

Just a simple country lawyer, huh?

re: #201 Sponge

Obama and Iraq

obama is a shitbrick...and I don't mean that because his skin is brown, I mean that because he is a pile of shit that resembles a brick.

now i'm on the floor and can't get up. lol

re: #213 Speegon

Oooh, emotional and irrelevant make-a-statement-disguised-as-a-question time!

Time to pay your left wing backers back. An anti-war/anti-troops sound bite = a few million.

Patton... we need a Patton to answer these domestic enemies.

hey rep skelton; where exactly are your thumbs? i don't see them... you better smell em just in case

re: #219 Mazeman

Why should he have listened? He'd already made up his mind per party orders.

re: #183 Killgore Trout

I think she's their only hope at this point. It'll be an interesting test of Koskidz power because they're going to try really hard to make sure she's not nominated.

I agree. Hill is the only logical, responsible choice if you are a Dem. Too bad for the Dems they don't have many adults leading the hoards of Shrub haters. The Dems will prove to be their own undoing in '08, of that I'm 99.9% sure. And of course it won't ever be their fault.

Skelton, it'll be six months before YOU finish speaking. Drink some Red Bull, boy.

Why is there going to be progress? Because the parliament won't be getting killed daily?

re: #219 Mazeman

That would mean he actually gave a damn about the testimony. But how would he make up his mind with the party line if he listened to the evidence?

Do the moonbats want to dissolve the army or something?
what exactly do they think would happen after that?
The jihadis would come over here to sing koombaya with them instead of lopping off their heads?
i dont think so

re: #213 Speegon

Oooh, emotional and irrelevant make-a-statement-disguised-as-a-question time!

yep

re: #224 blutonazi98

hey rep skelton; where exactly are your thumbs? i don't see them... you better smell em just in case

One in the CodePink.

We're all frustrated with the lack of progress on legislative initiatives.

(Well, not all of us want the Democrats in Congress to pass legislation!)

re: #180 Sharmuta

re: #171 David IV of Georgia

There's nobility in Congress?!

I know it's a stretch for a point. Does David Crockett count?

Ike Skelton? Another Surrender-Crat? Did he not hear anything that was just said?

The dems are true worthless and pathetic

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Dodd: Dad's Nuremberg notes apply today By RON FOURNIER, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - As a prosecutor at Nuremberg, Thomas Dodd charged the Nazis with "the apprehension of victims and their confinement without trial, often without charges, generally with no indication of their detention."

His son, Sen. Chris Dodd, wonders today whether he did enough to stop the United States from violating that same rule of law in the war on terror.

"For six decades, we learned the lessons of the Nuremberg men and women well," the Democratic presidential candidate writes in his book, "Letters from Nuremberg: My Father's Narrative of a Quest for Justice," published this week. "We didn't start wars — we ended them. We didn't commit torture — we condemned it. We didn't turn away from the world — we embraced it."

"But that has changed in the past few years," Dodd writes.

The book is a compilation of the informative, insightful letters Thomas Dodd, who later served as Connecticut senator, wrote home to his wife, Grace, from the trial of Nazi war criminals. On a deeper level, "Letters from Nuremberg," is a story of the elegant symmetry between a father and son, and their times.

Thomas Dodd was an ambitious young lawyer in the summer of 1945 when he traveled to the devastated city of Nuremberg, Germany, to serve as a staff lawyer in the unprecedented trial. He skillfully interrogated such notorious figures as Hermann Goring, Albert Speer and Rudolf Hess, rising to the No. 2 prosecutor on the U.S. team.

The elder Dodd saw the trial as a triumph of the rule of law, with civilized countries conducting a fair trail for mass murderers who didn't seem to deserve one.

"Winston Churchill was against the very idea — and favored summary execution," the younger Dodd writes. "The Soviet Union ... had similar ideas."

Flash forward six decades and the U.S. leaders, including Dodd and his Senate colleagues, are faced with the same moral dilemma on the issue of how to treat prisoners in the war on terror.

President Bush has argued that the commander in chief is authorized to hold enemy combatants indefinitely without trial or formal charges.

re: #221 nyc redneck

Thank you, I'm here all week. Tip your wait staff...

re: #217 reine.de.tout

re: #206 LanceKates

ok, time for the bloviating questions.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to the questions, but they need to hurry up or I'm going to miss it...

What, you gotta run to the bathroom?

(I have this picture of a buncha people holding themselves and hopping up and down in their seats, waiting for The Hardhitting Questions or something... :-)

re: #233 insanity police

Oof- that's just awful.

Skelton off mic

House Armed Services Chairman Ike Skelton (D-MO) forgot to turn off his microphone, and after asking to have some potential protesters removed from the hearing room, Skelton turned to Republican Duncan Hunter and said, "that really pisses me off, Duncan." He followed that by calling the protesters seeking to disturb the proceedings "those assholes."

re: #218 loppyd

LOPPPYYY!
{loppyd}

re: #237 Bill Amos

Screw him

Im suprised we havent seen Skelton stick his fingers in his ears and start to scream lalalalala I Cant HEar YOu!

re: #86 Pent.

re: #80 MandyManners

re: #44 BrianA

I just hope the saggy breast bunch doesn't show up and show off. Yikes!

BRAIN BLEACH!

Do you have enough to share? ...please?

It's in short supply nowadays but, what's mine is yours.

hey rep skelton; where exactly are your thumbs? i don't see them... you better smell em just in case

He's playing 'Switch'...

One thumb is in his mouth and the other in his ass...when someone says 'switch'...well, you get the point...

SCARY MAN!

eeek a vampire!

Skelton, boring losing consciousness...ZZZ
need screaming moonbat to wake me up.

re: #47 sugiero

Did you see this already:

Cindy Sheehan arrested at Petraeus hearing

Of Course!
It's all about HERRR!

I lost a family member in Iraq and I am serious, if I ever saw sheehan, her and I would have a "close encounter of the smackdown kind"

He is much better unscripted. Much easier to listen to when his speech isn't all diplospeak...

re: #197 Killgore Trout

P.S. Did you see that Fred had a big bounce in the polls today?

No, I just checked, though. Second place. Still early. Let's have a mid-west primary and then my tea leaves will have a better idea of what's gonna happen.

Hmm, another Democrat- want to start a tally?

I think sleleton practices his concerned and quizzical look in front of the mirror.

re: #223 new2thezoo

That would certainly win a national ear! --and perhaps heart, too... :)

re: #240 Argath93

you know where the other one goes

The Cryptkeeper speaks.

re: #216 bosforus

re: #200 insanity police

Petraeus is a good man. Obama and Hillary are not good men.

hillary's more of a man than a lot of men. no offense meant towards men.

How come Hillary never wears short skirts? To make sure her b*lls are covered.

Eye vant to suck your blood

Count Lantos

re: #238 Sponge

re: #221 nyc redneck

Thank you, I'm here all week. Tip your wait staff...

crawling towards the tip jar.

Lantos the Submissive is back on mike, getting ready to call the whole report one big lie again.

Ain't he special?

Can i get a big "F U Lantos!" ?

Eh?

Quick...get the garlic! It's the Count!

re: #239 NomadOfNorad

...or better yet, waiting for the Slamdunk Zingers and such.

Bela Lugosi Lantos speaks.

re: #250 ArmyAunt

yes i did call that on

lantos looks and sounds like a b-grade movie dracula

The Moonbat hords are take mental retardation to a new level.
Step aside while we keep you idiots alive.

Geez...does califoria have anyone in congress that speaks english? Who is this guy?

"Token proposal?"
/spit

re: #269 Sponge

Geez...does califoria have anyone in congress that speaks english? Who is this guy?

careful, you may wake up with bite marks on your neck

re: #85 joncelli

Of course, the upside is their audience of what - 15? will be a case of preaching to the choir anyway since everybody else is watching Fox and listening to Rush and Levin.

re: #256 insanity police

Now I have my fingers in my ears, yelling "LALALALALA!"

House Armed Services Chairman Ike Skelton (D-MO) forgot to turn off his microphone, and after asking to have some potential protesters removed from the hearing room, Skelton turned to Republican Duncan Hunter and said, "that really pisses me off, Duncan." He followed that by calling the protesters seeking to disturb the proceedings "those assholes."

AHHH an intelligent and human Democrat. Must be from Missouri (but not St Louis, I'm guessing). Good job.