Is this a Kassam or some other type of rocket?

A wall is a step. It's not a solution.

Turn the other cheek...

Make a complaint to the UN - that will stop the Gaza rockets!

Israel, please respond to these attacks. Make the attackers regret ever having attacked Israel.

What did the Israelis do to provoke them this time?

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that idiot must begetting checks from the arab league which are the oppisite of our ZOG checks

If Israel finally does something about this, look for the MSM to ignore this event completely. Here's the headline: ISRAEL TARGETS MILITANTS.

Ramadan fireworks? I think the IDF should help them "celebrate" with a few pyrotechnics of their own.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

updated

tick...tick...tick...

Give them a state. That is the answer.

Release all prisoners. Return the Refugees.

Blah blah blah.

/That'll stop it.

re: #7 DesertSage

What did the Israelis do to provoke them this time?

Exist?

olmert GO TO HELL OR GAZA which ever is closer

re: #7 DesertSage

What did the Israelis do to provoke them this time?

They merely exist and for a muslim that is enough reason to kill Israelis.

re: #16 yochanan

olmert GO TO HELL OR GAZA which ever is closer

You're being redundant.

The Israelis did not respond appropriately after the daycare center attack.

They need to use crushing, overwhelming force on the monsters.

re: #12 yochanan

Kassam. Thanks for the link.

Who the f*ck put Olmert in charge of Israel?

/crickets?

re: #17 Perplexed

re: #7 DesertSage

What did the Israelis do to provoke them this time?

They merely exist and for a muslim that is enough reason to kill Israelis.

GMTA

/or at least, our minds think alike

There is no good answer. Israel will be hated no what she does.

I prefer hated, but not killed.

More targeted assasinations.

WORST ISRAELI MIS-LEADER EVER BAR NON.

no one can be this bad by accident OLMERT how much was the arab league check? maybe if jews colect a bigger check you will go far away and stay away.

re: #22 rabidsquirrel

Scary thought.

Sadly, their answer to this will be to give these 'subs' the West Bank and the Golan Heights... and maybe throw in the Temple Mount for some effect.

Impeccable timing.

Olmert and Abbas agree on teams to tackle statehood

It is a Clintonesque concept; the daily rocket attacks are 'tolerable' as long as too many people are not injured or killed, no need to do anything now that might hurt a leaders poll numbers...
Launch enough unguided rockets in the general direction of civilization and you will eventually kill a bunch of people. It does seem that the number of rockets fired vs the casualties inflicted makes the rockets look like a poorly thought out waste of armament monies though...

olemert is what a donk gov't would look like

re: #25 Perplexed

re: #22 rabidsquirrel

Scary thought.

For you, anyhow ;-)

re: #23 Buck

There is no good answer. Israel will be hated no what she does.

I prefer hated, but not killed.

More targeted assasinations.

I don't care if the muslims hate Christians and Jews. I want them to fear us.

Good thing Israel let all those rocket lobbers out of prison.

Charles-it was actually over 25 soldiers that were hurt-they were in a tent and it was a direct hit.

re: #27 JammieWearingFool

Impeccable timing indeed.

From YNet.

The Salah a-Din Brigades, the military arm of the Public Resistance Committees, claimed responsibility for an early Tuesday Qassam attack that left over two dozen Israeli soldiers wounded.

I think Israel will retaliate strongly. They were debating the nature of their retaliation for the daycare center rocket -- forgetting that punishment has to be swift to be effective -- but this event should cut the debate short.

It looks to me that Olmert is trying the same thing as Musharraf -- put your army in harm's way in front of terrorist savages and order them to do nothing. It might upset folks.

re: #36 JammieWearingFool

From YNet.

The Salah a-Din Brigades, the military arm of the Public Resistance Committees, claimed responsibility for an early Tuesday Qassam attack that left over two dozen Israeli soldiers wounded.

Sounds like a banner at the Power to the Peaceful event.

re: #7 DesertSage

What did the Israelis do to provoke them this time?

Answer: They are not Muslim.

Olmert is only doing to Israel what Hillary wants to do to the US.

/ummm, role models.

How long is an army supposed to be the target of attacks with no retaliation whatsoever?

Well trained or not, at some point a retaliatory strke will come, with or without orders.

re: #21 Lizardoid

Who the f*ck put Olmert in charge of Israel?

/crickets?

Sharon.

re: #37 stuiec

I think Israel will retaliate strongly. They were debating the nature of their retaliation for the daycare center rocket -- forgetting that punishment has to be swift to be effective -- but this event should cut the debate short.

They've chosen war as a remedy. Give them a full measure.

Channeling Gen. Sherman

You know, I can just imagine Olmert's answer to this:

"we are negotiating with our Partners and we are soon going to give up Jerusalem and Tel Aviv as goodwill gestures. All political prisoners are to be released unconditionally and we will go back to Europe or drown ourselves in the Mediterranean, whichever pleases our Saudi Overlords more."

I don't think there is a coincidence between this and the heightened tensions with Syria. I would venture to guess there's a lot going on in the WOT against Syria and Iran that we aren't privy to.

That being said, I believe this will be too difficult for the PMO to pooh pooh. Barak will not sit on his hands this time.

There's a storm a brewing...

It must be really embarrassing to have pigs and apes around that are more competent, more productive, more civilized than you. [rude condescending voice] Poor little Palestinian.

it is one thing to get wounded fighting the MOMZARS to get woulded sleeping in a tent one is not supposed to speak ill of a fellow jew esp this close to the high holidays but this being a case of paqis nefesh i must condemn the idiots in the israel gov't of imbaciles.

re: #30 rabidsquirrel

Here be dragons.

re: #49 yochanan

it is one thing to get wounded fighting the MOMZARS to get woulded sleeping in a tent one is not supposed to speak ill of a fellow jew esp this close to the high holidays but this being a case of paqis nefesh i must condemn the idiots in the israel gov't of imbaciles.

Rotating title?

re: #5 Wildcat

the idiot Olmert is already planning to do that. Perhaps a strongly worded letter?

Jpost.com says it was a basic training base...that means 17/18 yr olds?

Near an army base? I have a feeling the IDF won't be able to sit back, no matter what Olmert declares/blubbers.

Olmert didn't put enough postage on his letter to the UN?

He did meet with Abbas today and promised prisoner releases for Ramadan.

This must have been the return gift for Rosh Hashanah.

Has Condi commented? Find her in a fitting room. She is trying on new outfits for the "peace" conference where Israel gets to invite the Arabs to fire from even closer range.

re: #7 DesertSage

What did the Israelis do to provoke them this time?

Releasing "palestinian" prisoners with blood on their hands, conceding land left and right, and allowing them continued freedom to destroy what's left of the Jewish Temples...

re: #49 yochanan

paqis nefesh

Translation please. You're dealing with a mono linguistic person.

Olmert is a tool. He'll do nothing of course.

Meanwhile, the Walt & Mearsheimer bandwagon just picked up another member. I live in the Midatlantic region, and Michael A. Smerconish, out of Philadelphia's 1210 AM, is the local morning man/talking head. He's now singing their praises, saying that it is high time to have a debate about the U.S. "relationship" with Israel. I guess that I should not be surprised, given that one of his favourite guests, if not his favourite, is Michael Scheuer, who is certainly no friend of Israel.

BHG

So,...does Olmert plan to lodge more complaints with the UN?

Why does Israel keep on taking this crap? Send the IDF in there and clean it out completely. From top to bottom.

re: #39 Know Your Enemy

re: #36 JammieWearingFool

From YNet.

The Salah a-Din Brigades, the military arm of the Public Resistance Committees, claimed responsibility for an early Tuesday Qassam attack that left over two dozen Israeli soldiers wounded.

Sounds like a banner at the Power to the Peaceful event.

How 'trendy'.

re: #57 Perplexed
My fellow american.

re: #56 gop_patriot

No offense to anyone on the board at all, but the whole "turn the other cheek" thing is really lost on me.

they're getting better training and weapons from iran...

No, there will be no immediate retaliation.

But the retaliation will come.

And yes, after the daycare assault, one must come.

And so it goes.

The notion of a tipping point, as argued for here (and elsewhere) may be only a dream.

Most likely Israel will suffer continued casualties, acceptable casualties, now and for ever.

In order for the IDF to invade Gaza there must be an attack so heinous, i.e. assassination of the PM, the murder of hundreds, that all but the most recalcitrant Jew-haters would object.

Sigh.

And no, it ain't ever gonna' end pretty.

Just sayin'.

Hamas is well versed in Qassam making/shooting. It appears that other Palestinian terrorist organizations are catching on as well.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Debka.com is taking the holidays off, starting "Sept. 11". But I guess they'll put info up on this before they turn off the lights for the week. They always have interesting (extra) info.

re: #57 Perplexed

saving souls or saving lives

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

NOT THAT I AGREE WITH ANY OF THIS BALDERDASH

re: #68 scandalous?

KOL TOV all good

re: #33 WriterMom

Charles-it was actually over 25 soldiers that were hurt-they were in a tent and it was a direct hit.

There's a big difference in describing the event as "wounding 25 people", which can mean something as simple as skinned knees and goose eggs on the forehead - compared to that.

But why would I need to know that? //

re: #8 yochanan

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re: #67 yochanan

Thank you.

re: #62 jayzee

A slap on the face is in essence an insult to your honor; not terribly harmful. For a slap on the face, you turn the other cheek rather than respond with violence. As Christians, we can withstand the insult without escalating things. This was one of the many messages in the Holy Bible about humility. Compare and contrast to a certain religion that is ALL about supremacy, and gets very upset if allan or Mo are "dissed" in any way.

THe lesson doesn't extrapolate to enemies shooting rockets at your babies, IMHO.

If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. If someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you

what is the IDF waiting for?!

forget razing a 2 mile buffer zone... clean it out completely and reoccupy gaza.

imprison all known hamas people. deport anyone with an attitude to... syria.

I am more angrey at the PRIME MINISTER FROM CHELM than i am at the koranamals i expect the arabs to betotal racist scum bags. I expect alot more from an israeli p.m. or should we start calling him a B.M. instead of a p.m. ?

Hope.

re: #74 Silhouette

Thanks. Unfortunately it has become one of the most bastardized expressions then.

Again I meant no disrespect, but I really never understood why anyone would turn the other cheek in a circumstance like this.

Are the Palestinians building and launching their latest trendy WMD: suicide bomber-martyrs strapped to Qassam rockets?

Israel should reinstitute targeted assasinations of Hamas leaders.

re: #76 yochanan

I am more angrey at the PRIME MINISTER FROM CHELM than i am at the koranamals i expect the arabs to betotal racist scum bags. I expect alot more from an israeli p.m. or should we start calling him a B.M. instead of a p.m. ?

Olmert did not do this. No one (including the Palestinians) should be excused for doing these things in this era... You let them off the hook when you expect so little of them and divert attention to Olmert The Mayor. They are human and can control themselves (and work, etc.) just like the rest of the people on the planet. It would be like saying that because the U.S. didn't respond to the Cole, the Africa embassies, the Beirut marines bombing, the Saudi bombing of our AF pilots... that it is the U.S. govt's fault that they did it again in NY. Not right. The suiciders are responsible... as are the rocket launching people in Gaza.

I dont think that they are getting better at this - remember - a dead clock is right twice a day! They get lucky every now and then - It must be stopped - Bring on Netanyahu! NOW!

re: #77 saltmarsh

Great Video!

(Of course, I wouldn't want to be in a plane or otherwise in the sky near that thing)

IDF should consider this Syria's response for the flyovers.

This IDF battle group must respond in a macho fashion or commit hari-kari, irrespective of whatever Olmert, the Paper Mache Puppet, decides.

Israel should announce an "even response" policy... every time an unaimed rocket is fired into Israeli territory, they should fire an equally unaimed mortar or rocket back into the general neighborhood the Palestinian rocket came from. When there's a suicide/homicide bomber, they send a rocket aimed at a similar target - a school, a shopping area, etc.

Then when the world goes nuts over what they are doing, they can reply "we're just doing to them exactly whatever they do to us".

re: #82 Sunlight

the koranamals are doing the terrorism because they do not fear the B.M. OF CHELM

THE ONLY THING AN ARAB UNDERSTANDS IS A STRONG LEADER. OLMERT IS NOT HE IS WEAK AND A FOOL.

Ehud Barak is in charge of Defense.

Yesterday, he sent in a team, into gazoo, and retrieved the guy who planned the kidnapping of shalit. From there? A ride in an ordinary auto, to a waiting helicopter.

Those who don't think the Israelis know a thing or two about operating with terrorists, are, well, just out of their minds.

Life's not a comic strip.

Nor does "tit-for-tat" equal sound judgement.

Right now?

I can only guess.

And, just for the heck of it I'll guess that very shortly "the dinner jacket" in iran will "go to the cleaners."

Assad's also got problems. Internal ones.

And, in today's Ha'Aretz? There was an article that Assad was complaining that the other arab states were not "taking a wide stance," for his t'zuris. Which includes, buying from the russians, anti-artillary shit that doesn't work.

One step at a time. "Moderate" can mean a broken. Which can happen if you fall off a bicyle. And, "light" could mean you fainted. Other than that, from this story, the missile reached a military base. And, there's really a chain of command in place.

Sometimes, ya gotta way to see what happens.

Slightly OT - From Haaretz

Police chief: There are dozens of active neo-Nazis in Israel

"Meanwhile, graffiti with Nazi overtones, such as "Hitler is the Messiah" and "Long live Hitler and Jesus Christ," accompanied by crosses and swastikas, were discovered Monday evening on the walls of the synagogue of the Sephardi Chief Rabbi of Eilat, Rabbi Moshe Hadaya."

re: #91 North95

Slightly OT - From Haaretz

Police chief: There are dozens of active neo-Nazis in Israel

"Meanwhile, graffiti with Nazi overtones, such as "Hitler is the Messiah" and "Long live Hitler and Jesus Christ," accompanied by crosses and swastikas, were discovered Monday evening on the walls of the synagogue of the Sephardi Chief Rabbi of Eilat, Rabbi Moshe Hadaya."

Sounds like more than just "overtones" to me.

This calls for a proportionate response . . . some proportion in the range of 10 to 1.

Olmert should be held responsible for this. Ball-less wonder.

Israeli government:

If I didn't know better, I would believe you don't care about your own people. If it were your children sitting in a school building when a rocket lands, would you hesitate to retaliate in the strongest of terms? It doesn't make you like your enemy in defending your own.

Have you grown so weak that you now worry about the opinions of the rest of the world? Do you need to be reminded that in 1982 you were widely criticized for preemptively destroying Saddam's reactor? Do you hear any criticism now?

As an American and someone not Jewish, if I can see it why can't you? I beg you please stop the appeasement. You are only empowering your enemies and assisting in the destruction of your own kind. Frankly, you only postpone the inevitable. Why not act now?

re: #78 jayzee

I'm glad you brought it up precisely because it is so misused.

There are some Christians who take pacifism so seriously that they would be killed rather than fight back. Honestly, although I disagree with their interpretation, I can live with that kind. (However, they aren't true to their beliefs IHMO if they are happy to live in countries kept free by others who ARE willing to defend themselves and defend the pacifists.)

THat being said, by far and away the majority of people using that verse as an anti-war message only push for us to "turn the other cheek" to communist/authoritarian/anti-western/anti-Christia n/anti-Semitic etc. violence. When we are fighting back against tyranny, they trot out that verse, but they are perfectly OK with violence when it is coming from the left (and I include Islamofascism in the left as I measure right-left in degree of personal liberty, which is very low in both ideologies.)

"Hello Secretary Rice. This is General Dayton, calling from Ramallah."

"Hello General. How are things there this evening?"

"Not too bad, Mrs. Secretary. Olmert's meeting with Abbas and Fayad went very well. In addition to agreeing to firm principles on the relinquishment of the entire West Bank, and East Jerusalem, including the Temple Mount, Olmert has also agreed to transfer 2000 additional carbines as well as APC's to Abbas' forces."

"Excellent General. By 'Temple Mount', do you mean the Haram Al Sharif?"

"Yes, Mrs. Secretary."

"Well done, General. Anything else of note to report?"

"Well, there was a Kassam attack out of Gaza tonight. Over 60 Israelis were injured. Some seriously."

"General, I undertand Olmert kept Abbas and Fayad waiting for over 10 minutes today. Is this true?"

re: #74 Silhouette

A presbyterian minister I used to know, used to close out his sermons by quoting Jesus. "return evil for evil to no one."
I remember the quote but the full quote is "Return evil for evil to no one as it depends on you"
That changes the whole tone of the quote. I asked him why he only gave half the quote, he said he was trying to "make a point"
The Torah says that if a "man rises up to kill you, kill him first.
Also at Gestemene peter had a sword, now he has been carrying this sword for quite a while without Jesus having a problem, only when Peter tried to stop the arrest did Jesus tell him to put up the sword.
the bible is not a suicide pact for pacifists

Their rockets don't need to be accurate now that they can practically walk them to the targets.

re: #53 Sunlight

Right out of high school.

Quoted by an IDF General
Psalm 83

A song. A psalm of Asaph.

1 O God, do not keep silent;
be not quiet, O God, be not still.
2 See how your enemies are astir,
how your foes rear their heads.

3 With cunning they conspire against your people;
they plot against those you cherish.

4 "Come," they say, "let us destroy them as a nation,
that the name of Israel be remembered no more."

5 With one mind they plot together;
they form an alliance against you-

6 the tents of Edom and the Ishmaelites,
of Moab and the Hagrites,

7 Gebal, [a] Ammon and Amalek,
Philistia, with the people of Tyre.

8 Even Assyria has joined them
to lend strength to the descendants of Lot.
Selah

9 Do to them as you did to Midian,
as you did to Sisera and Jabin at the river Kishon,

10 who perished at Endor
and became like refuse on the ground.

11 Make their nobles like Oreb and Zeeb,
all their princes like Zebah and Zalmunna,

12 who said, "Let us take possession
of the pasturelands of God."

13 Make them like tumbleweed, O my God,
like chaff before the wind.

14 As fire consumes the forest
or a flame sets the mountains ablaze,

15 so pursue them with your tempest
and terrify them with your storm.

16 Cover their faces with shame
so that men will seek your name, O LORD.

17 May they ever be ashamed and dismayed;
may they perish in disgrace.

18 Let them know that you, whose name is the LORD—
that you alone are the Most High over all the earth.

re: #7 DesertSage

What did the Israelis do to provoke them this time?

Exist.

re: #74 Silhouette

re: #98 cybermonk

re: #102 North95

I can't speak about the New Testament, but the Old Testament is definitely NOT a suicide pact.

Pull the plug, turn off the spigot... and take the phone off the hook.

Get us a good President who won't pressure Israel to be 'nice', and get Israel a good PM who has a pair... and see how things change.

What gets me is every single press report, even the FOX retotating title has this thing about how the rockets are crude and homemade and don't usually harm anything or anyone.

Why do they have to minimize what he Palestinians do by constantly making this idiotic statement?

Rhetorical question...I know. As long as it directed at just Jews it doesn't matter and is perfectly understandable and excusable.

Headlining this as 'Palestinians' is already a win for the thugs, more correctly described as 'Jordyptian 3rd-generation un-repatriates', because they sure-as-shooting AIN'T from the nation of 'Palestine'!

sustained counter battery fire into Gaza is long overdue

re: #95 goodbye_natalie

Thank you.

Video Feature: Remembering Gush Katif - Residents Return

The video will make most people cry...Jews expelled by Jews from homes in Israel...the courage to go back to see what it is like now. It is devastated and devastating, 2 years after.

The video can be better seen using the full screen option.

The total is up to 66 people injured now:
[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

66 injured! by a single rocket.

By doing nothing Olmert and his government is just encouraging these terrorist thugs. Militants my hamass. The success of today's attack is being celebrated all over Gaza as we type.

What has become of the Israel I once knew.

nu shoine? do something!

this does not call for a measured response
this calls for a revolution, in Israel

then it's time for self defense
forget about what the bible, torah or koran say
when someone attacks you, there are two options
fight or flight
Israel is doing neither

so Olmert, either surrender or make the Pali's
if you're not willing to do either
you should be forcibly removed from office

Israel needs a latter-day George Washington

There shouldn't be a Beit Hanum tomorrow and the bombings will stop.

poor and brave soldiers. I guess thats price Jews will pay all the time for stupidity of their leadership.

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The rocket attack is a major embarrassment to the IDF. Hardly anyone has been directly hurt in any previous attacks. The startling numbers make me so very angry I'd join the IDF in a heartbeat if they'd let me kill shahids at will.

Do these same IDF soldiers realize they must respond harshly, and soon?

Gosh, I hope so. Puleeeze, lemme see some real collateral damage and 500# bombs explode on un-emptied apartment buildings and Gazan "government" infrastructure. Otherwise, I'll just have to pull out a razor and slit my wrist open 'cause I can't take the lethargy and languor any more.

So what will it be macho IDF soldiers? Are you going to continue to act like a bunch of sissies hypnotized by Grand Marshall Olmert?

At least 66 wounded. This was a basic training camp. These were kids.

Seems like the pali-terrorists are celebrating 9/11 their way.

Thank you, Sharon. Thank you to everybody, who supported ethnic cleansing of Jews in Gaza.

The is no person in recent history who harmed Israel more than Sharon.
And his heirs whom he installed to power keep his good work.
And his criminal sons want Israel to keep his body "alive", so they do not go to jail. I wonder how many refugees from Gaza could be helped with the money spent on caring for the brainless body of this traitor.

Can the Israelis set up offices of the U.N. High Council Committee on
Condemning the Victims of Palestinian Atrocities all along the border, then
requiring the U.N. people to randomly sit in those offices so they can
observe things more closely...?

I have almost reached the point where I don't care what happens to the Israelis anymore. Israel has the power and the right to wipe out this Palestinian scourge and yet they do almost nothing.

Apparently the Israelis have contracted the Euroweenie disease, pacificism. If they don't fight they deserve to suffer the consequences. The Israelis cannot be excused because Olmert is a fool.

Imagine if the United States was being rocketed by Cuba and Bush did nothing about it. There would be riots in the streets demanding that Cuba be invaded and the rocketing stopped at once. Most of the Senate and the Congress would agree. Bush would almost certainly face impeachment. One way or another the rocketing would be stopped permanently no matter how loud the rest of the world screamed.

As usual, I'll be posting updates during the day.

The average Israeli blames the US for tying their hands in war. Of course, I don't buy this; a strong Israel could influence US policy. Right now, we don't look like a very strong ally for the US, and weakness just encourages more appeasement talk. Just my opinion.

Israelis are also very changeable; today they yell for blood, but tomorrow when things calm down, they'll be considering "peace" again with their "neighbors". We don't understand it. But then, we are part of that right-wing Zionist crowd who supports the settlers, and we are persona non grata here. I have already been told by one Israeli that "You Americans come here and you are more right-wing than you should be. We have to live with the Arabs." Um, well, no you don't.

Sadly, more Israelis will have to lose their lives before there will be societal impetus to change the government and move to the right. Israelis do have a survival instinct, but sometimes the threshold is just too high for my taste.

The solution is land for peace.

Land for peace,
But with a twist.

Land for peace.

The Palestinians have shown that they care not about death, and will simply keep killing until there are no palestinians or no Israelis. But they say they care about the land.

Here is the proposition that the Government should make.

Each and every time a rocket is fired into Israel, or a suicide bomber kills or attempts to kill, we will redraw the border one hundred meters further back, and will take this land by force. And do this again at each murderous outrage.
You can live in peace, secure as our peaceful neighbor, but if you keep killing we will remove your nation. If you attack us, then by degrees, you will be pushed back into the lands of your Egyptian and Jordanian brothers. The choice is yours.
Peaceful neighbors or a landless people. We do not do this lightly. We were once landless. But the choice is yours.

re: #122 I agree w/Bill K.

Israel is certainly a country unique in the world. No other country would tolerate daily rocket attacks without doing anything to stop it. I don't understand it, I really don't. However I try to figure it out, I end up at national suicide. Why Israel tolerates Gaza's existence is beyond me; why Israel tolerates such a stooge as Olmert is beyond me, as well. The place is a mystery. No one is going to respect you more than you respect yourself and Israel (as a country) is certainly lacking in basic self-respect.

One expert pointed out that a ground incursion which leads to a defeat for Hamas will only end up giving Gaza back to Fatah, so they can pick up where Hamas left off in shooting rockets at us and killing us. Rather, he suggests sealing off Gaza and not risking any more of our men's lives.

I like it.

Shut off the water.

Shut off the electricity.

Stop all incoming and outgoing trucks.

Blow up the roads.

Don't answer the phone when the UN calls.

Let us see how "peaceful" they become when they are hungry, thirsty, cold, and without any medical care. They will be little kittens inside of a week.

Israel does not respond because

It worrys about the reaction from the world that is being fed by an agenda based press that thinks wars should be equal and proportionate as if its a game played on a tennis court

I can't recall any boycotts of Sudan or China over Darfur, but Israel breathes and thats a good cause by so called intellectuals to call for its demise.

One thing Sharon said a few years back was "that Israel will not become another Czechoslavakia"

If you stamp on a snake's tail, it will turn around and bite you. The only way to deal with a snake is to stamp on its head.

So the answer is simple. Slowly, and with maximum publicity mass a huge and menacing artillery force on the border. Then, as Maximus so aptly commanded his legions: "At my signal - Unleash Hell".

That should make their eyes water.

re: #127 McKie of BuSab
You're too nice. 100 yards at a time is too incremental. I'd go for pushing the line back to, say, 5 miles or the limit of their missiles. Anyone found in that area would be considered a combatant after the new line was established. I'd stop worrying about collateral damage. If the rocket attacks continued, then I'd further extend the boundary.
Any area that was used to launch missile attacks would be subject to immediate counter-fire. Any sites involved in the remote control of said rockets would also be subjected to artillery fire.
Permanently, get rid of the idea of "proportional response".

Getting better at it? More like they won the random rocket fire lottery on this one. Fire enough of them, and they were bound to hit a bunch of people sooner or later. But I'd liken this single success to saying someone is "getting better at playing the lottery" because they got a single winning scratcher.

Israel is certainly a country unique in the world. No other country would tolerate daily rocket attacks without doing anything to stop it. I don't understand it, I really don't. However I try to figure it out, I end up at national suicide. Why Israel tolerates Gaza's existence is beyond me; why Israel tolerates such a stooge as Olmert is beyond me, as well. The place is a mystery. No one is going to respect you more than you respect yourself and Israel (as a country) is certainly lacking in basic self-respect.

the problem is still iran and syria - until those countries (really their governments - not the people who the sanctions really hurt) have some meaningful downside, the attacks will continue - destroy one of Assad's palaces...bomb Iran's refinery - maybe that will get their attention...

and olmert needs to go - he's got the spine of a jellyfish

Look at Olmert's response to the Russian Nazi (ethnically Jewish?) youth ( in Israel ) who are heiling Hitler as they stomp on religious Jews and videotape it. He's not even calling to deport them. Olmert is a pathetic ultra-liberal. What a disgrace.

re: #131 earth56

Israel does not respond because

It worrys about the reaction from the world that is being fed by an agenda based press that thinks wars should be equal and proportionate as if its a game played on a tennis court

I can't recall any boycotts of Sudan or China over Darfur, but Israel breathes and thats a good cause by so called intellectuals to call for its demise.

One thing Sharon said a few years back was "that Israel will not become another Czechoslavakia"

Correct, although it should always be emphasized that this particular concept of proportionality is a total fraud. The relative numbers of Arabs and Jews are obviously not taken into account here.

re: #82 Sunlight

re: #76 yochanan

I am more angrey at the PRIME MINISTER FROM CHELM than i am at the koranamals i expect the arabs to betotal racist scum bags. I expect alot more from an israeli p.m. or should we start calling him a B.M. instead of a p.m. ?

Olmert did not do this. No one (including the Palestinians) should be excused for doing these things in this era... You let them off the hook when you expect so little of them and divert attention to Olmert The Mayor. They are human and can control themselves (and work, etc.) just like the rest of the people on the planet. It would be like saying that because the U.S. didn't respond to the Cole, the Africa embassies, the Beirut marines bombing, the Saudi bombing of our AF pilots... that it is the U.S. govt's fault that they did it again in NY. Not right. The suiciders are responsible... as are the rocket launching people in Gaza.

Sorry, you are dead wrong. Sunlight has the right idea. Arab culture has been stupid and violent for a thousand years- it ain't changing anytime soon. They have to be viewed the way you would view a rabid dog. If you go to sleep in a room with a rabid dog, you are a fool. That is what Olmert has been asking the nation to do.

re: #127 McKie of BuSab

Land for peace.

The Palestinians have shown that they care not about death, and will simply keep killing until there are no palestinians or no Israelis. But they say they care about the land.

Here is the proposition that the Government should make.

Each and every time a rocket is fired into Israel, or a suicide bomber kills or attempts to kill, we will redraw the border one hundred meters further back, and will take this land by force. And do this again at each murderous outrage.
You can live in peace, secure as our peaceful neighbor, but if you keep killing we will remove your nation. If you attack us, then by degrees, you will be pushed back into the lands of your Egyptian and Jordanian brothers. The choice is yours.
Peaceful neighbors or a landless people. We do not do this lightly. We were once landless. But the choice is yours.

You have to destroy their housing, too. And Israel is too liberal to do that. They only do it in the case of a convicted terrorist, and even then with great difficulty.