Why is this important?

Gen. P kicked ass today. nothing else needs to be said

This guy is very good. Very effective visuals. I noticed 63% trust his recommendations. Maybe this will turn out, after all.

Loretta Sanchez's remarks made me sick with anger...she should be cleaning houses for a living.

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

Hey, where are the Christmas ornaments?

Anyone got a link? I have no cable.

Air Assault GEN Petraeus

I have to thank the NYT for running that General Betrayus ad... the moonbats' minds won't be affected but any sane readers will be repulsed, and it should help defeat Democrats.
As Moveon says, "We bought 'em, We own 'em".
They want to live by the Soros, they can die by the Soros.

re: #1 me

Why is this important?

Because the questions are more intellectual compared to those offered during the circus on Capitol Hill today.

Microphone shut off
Code Pink loonies timed disruptions
Partisan stupid questioning

nuther' day at the Hill

#6,
Just go to [Link: www.foxnews.com...]
and look for a live feed (What's On Air Now)

so using my awesome powers of logic...the loons will say everything he is saying right now is bullshit? Is Karl Rove in the shadows secretly speaking into his ear?
What reason does a General have to lie? What does he have to gain?
nothing

If I were in the Army I would be very happy having General Petraeus in charge.

I feel like sharing the picture of MoveOn's ad in todays NYT.

The Most Disgusting Ad Ever...

I'm sure you've all seen it, but in case anyone missed it.

re: #8 tradewind

live by the Soros, they can die by the Soros.

Rotating title nominee.

OldLineTexan

I just got home. Is it really true that Keith Olbermann made a statement today that Al Qaeda hasn't done as much damage to America as Rupert Murdoch of Fox News?

I wonder if the general had to do a science project on the praying fucking mantis when he was seven years old and drove his mother up one wall, across the ceiling and down the other wall.

re: #9 kham

Personally, I didn't think the question even worthy of a response...

I feel much better.

Is this guy the real deal? I mean no disrespect to previous leaders of our troops but, this guy seems to have it together.

I do like "live by the Soros, die by the Soros."

Very profound. :-D

I just hope they won't take us all down with them. :-(

The GEN is going to have to grow a third chest with that ribbon rack he's sporting.

I duno if Olberman did say that but he must have a Sunday night football hangover. When I saw him there before the game I almost threw up. He is the absolute last person I want to hear when football is on. Him and Joe Buck.

re: #11 tradewind

Thanks, but they're pretty lousy at making it obvious where the live feed link is. Or maybe I'm just dumb AND blind.

Blinky speaks...
Pelosi on Petraeus Testimony: Continuing Failed Surge in Iraq Until at Least Next Summer Is Unacceptable

This is simply unacceptable.

Defeat at all costs!

#15,

K O : Worst
Person
In
The
World

TO the hardcore LLL, it will matter not. They question the timing/He's just lying for his masters/Quagmire. La la la la la, I can't hear you, la la la la.

But there are many of the sane folks, the salt of the earth, the good people of this country who were beginning to believe the quagmire line because it was fed to them nightly from the MSM, and to these people, this will make a difference.

re: #18 buzzsawmonkey

re: #16 MandyManners

That's not a praying mantis. It's a "spiritual" mantis.

LOL! Thanks for the smile, buzzsawmonkey! The poster's coming along fairly well. The real praying mantis is still alive.

I still haven't figured out if it's a boy-mantis or a girl-mantis. Maybe I should capture another one to see if one eats the other after doing the deed.

What's this man's educational background?

Gonna' look up his bio later.

#23,
No, my bad... I thought they had one. Try C Span, I know they do.
Fox probably has video, though.

And how is the left taking it?

[Link: www.thenation.com...]

The Nation

Consider the question of Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia, which at most has a few thousand fighters. Local Sunni groups tolerated them in the past because they were allies against the occupation. Now that the Sunni tribes expect a US withdrawal, they have begun to turn against Al Qaeda. And if the Sunnis aren't able to eliminate the jihadis, the Shiites and the Kurds will, with the blessing if not the outright help of neighboring countries like Syria, Turkey and Iran, which do not want Al Qaeda to gain a foothold in the area.

Yup. You read that right. Iran and Syria are going to help stablize Iraq and get rid of AQ.

More islamo lib fantasy.

As to the concern that a complete withdrawal will lead to regional war, as different countries intervene in Iraq's civil war: This is a naïvely self-centered view of the Middle East and its problems. For all its democratic and human rights shortcomings, the region is resilient and capable of managing conflict. It survived fifteen years of civil war in Lebanon and almost a decade of brutal war between Iran and Iraq. It will survive the withdrawal of US forces from Iraq

re: #15 ornery elephant

I just got home. Is it really true that Keith Olbermann made a statement today that Al Qaeda hasn't done as much damage to America as Rupert Murdoch of Fox News?

See here.

With every flapping pie hole the demonicrats dig themselves a deeper hole. They're burning bridges left and right. This next election cycle might prove rather interesting (as in the ancient Chinese curse may you live in interesting times).

Mandy,

I was in the 101st when Petraeus took command after GEN Cody in 02. He's the real deal I assure you.

re: #32 StinkHammer

re: #15 ornery elephant

I just got home. Is it really true that Keith Olbermann made a statement today that Al Qaeda hasn't done as much damage to America as Rupert Murdoch of Fox News?

See here.

Sometimes I wonder if they "do battle" just for ratings...

re: #4 Maximu§

Loretta Sanchez's remarks made me sick with anger...she should be cleaning houses for a living.

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

You want to me even more sick. Read this article. It's obvious that Sanchez won her seat in 1996 by voter fraud. Yup. A Democrat and voter fraud. Hard to believe. (Do I really need a sarc tag on this.)

General Petraeus was commissioned in the Infantry upon graduation from the United States Military Academy in 1974. He has held leadership positions in airborne, mechanized, and air assault infantry units in Europe, the Middle East, and the United States, including command of a battalion in the 101st Airborne Division and a brigade in the 82nd Airborne Division. In addition, he has held a number of staff assignments: Aide to the Chief of Staff of the Army; service as a battalion, brigade, and division operations officer; Military Assistant to the Supreme Allied Commander in Europe; Chief of Operations of the United Nations Force in Haiti; and Executive Assistant to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. Lieutenant General Petraeus was the General George C. Marshall Award winner as the top graduate of the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College Class of 1983. He subsequently earned MPA and Ph.D. degrees in international relations from Princeton University’s Woodrow Wilson School of Public and International Affairs, and later served as an Assistant Professor of International Relations at the US Military Academy. He also completed a fellowship at Georgetown University. Awards and decorations earned by Lieutenant General Petraeus include the Defense Distinguished Service Medal, the Distinguished Service Medal, two awards of the Defense Superior Service Medal, four awards of the Legion of Merit, the Bronze Star Medal with “V” device, the State Department Superior Honor Award, and the Gold Award of the Iraqi Order of the Date Palm. He is a Master Parachutist and Air Assault and Ranger qualified. He has also earned the Combat Action Badge and French, British, and German Jump Wings. LTG Petraeus and his wife have two children, a son and a daughter. [Link: usacac.army.mil...] (1 of 2)1/18/2006 2:07:09 PM

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re: #22 Sizzlack

I duno if Olberman did say that but he must have a Sunday night football hangover. When I saw him there before the game I almost threw up. He is the absolute last person I want to hear when football is on. Him and Joe Buck.

Apparently Olbermann DID say that - it's here:

Olbermann Interview in Playboy Magazine

Look at the left side bar under his photos for the quote:

"Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda -- worse for our society. It's as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was."

re: #24 Killgore Trout

Blinky speaks...
Pelosi on Petraeus Testimony: Continuing Failed Surge in Iraq Until at Least Next Summer Is Unacceptable

This is simply unacceptable.

Defeat at all costs!

I'm sure that she had that one all ready to go sometime last week.

If the Great Unwashed were exposed to more than ten minutes of what went on today, they'd descend on the Capitol with bayonets and pull a Cromwell on the Congress, but of course the media is (perhaps rightfully) afraid of showing the public enough to arouse their ire.

re: #30 tradewind

No prob, and just an observation: I've tried like a mo fo to find the proper live feed on fox.com several times regarding a variety of things and found it most difficult (a lot of not so intuitive hoop/link jumping required), but found the live feed of Gen. Petraeus' report on C-SPAN this morning very quickly and with little effort. What gives, Fox?

re: #33 buzzsawmonkey

re: #28 MandyManners

You still won't know; they could be two gay mantises. Or one strong gay mantis and his--or her--beeyotch.

I say, call it a MAN-tis, and dare anyone to prove you wrong.

Gay mantises? Oy. I have learned that a male mantis' reproductive organs are asymetrical, whatever that means.

re: #32 StinkHammer

sorry! i was busy posting what I found before I saw your comment up there! Thanks!

General Patræus behaved in an honorable and dignified manner. While being subtlety insulted and maligned, he stuck to the simple and unimpeachable truth. While his detractor feverishly tried to catch him in a slip up, a lie, a qualification, he clearly and calmly answered their questions as if they were his friends. He acted like a commander. He acted like a man who leads men.

/too messianic?

re: #31 hous bin pharteen

By "survive the withdrawal", I think they mean the actual sand and trees will still be there. Because the government, society, and a significant portion of the people won't survive.

re: #35 Intestinal Fortitude

Mandy,

I was in the 101st when Petraeus took command after GEN Cody in 02. He's the real deal I assure you.

Thank you for that tasty bit of information! Was he ever SF or 82 Abn?

hey! I'm one of the unwashed...I have no problem with bayonets..it makes the screwing they get just as personal as the one they're giving us..

#42,
My suggestion is to go to your local broadcast station (if you are in an aread which uses Fox) and link to them... often they will stream live. You could also google or technorati ' live feed Fox news'.
.

re: #43 MandyManners

I have learned that a male mantis' reproductive organs are asymetrical, whatever that means.

One is bigger than the others.

Hey. Waddya know?

re: #45 David IV of Georgia

P e t r a e u s - Petraeus - Pe trae us

No idea..but it sounds good!

i wonder...were those democrats supporting the general(troops) with their behavior today?...can they honestly consider accusing a man of lying support?

re: #49 buzzsawmonkey

re: #48 towerclimber37

Aren't Bayonettes the cheerleader squad from New Jersey?

Heh. I would have thought the Corruptettes...

Ambassador Crocker is on Fox now. He recently gave a similar interview at Al-Iraqiya

sample:

Q: We don’t want a full disclosure, just what you have written so far?
A: I haven’t written anything yet, but there are some thoughts. In general there are huge political, security, and economic problems, but at the same time, there is progress in the fields of security, and also in politics as in the recent agreement of the five parties and in Anbar and other areas where the people have turned against al-Qaeda which represents a security and political achievement. And there is progress in the economy also, and this can bee seen in the implementation of provincial budgets which has gone ahead well in comparison to last year. So there are problems and there is progress, but Iraq and its friends need to be patient, because after 35 years of injustice under Saddam Hussein’s regime, and after the problems that emerged after the liberation, it is not possible to solve the problems of 40 years in one or two years. But the important thing here is that there is progress.

Mandy I think he was in the 82nd. Not sure about SF. Don't think he had anything to do with 5th group.

re: #52 Piglet-U93

re: #45 David IV of Georgia

P e t r a e u s - Petraeus - Pe trae us

P e t r a e u s - Americanis asskickus maximus

Totally OT:

Remembering 9/11...

[Link: www.galaxywd.com...]

Why we fight.

re: #26 Silhouette

TO the hardcore LLL, it will matter not. They question the timing/He's just lying for his masters/Quagmire. La la la la la, I can't hear you, la la la la.

But there are many of the sane folks, the salt of the earth, the good people of this country who were beginning to believe the quagmire line because it was fed to them nightly from the MSM, and to these people, this will make a difference.

I pray you are right, I have the same feeling right about now. Even with all this chaos and lies and hate...hope springs eternal.

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING the left does even surprises me any more. I wish I didn't have to say that, but it's true. No amount of partisan paranoia is too extreme for them.

re: #52 Piglet-U93

re: #45 David IV of Georgia

P e t r a e u s - Petraeus - Pe trae us

Did my unicode not work for you?

re: #47 MandyManners

He commanded 1st Brigade, 82d part of the time I was in 82d.

re: #40 ornery elephant

re: #22 Sizzlack

I duno if Olberman did say that but he must have a Sunday night football hangover. When I saw him there before the game I almost threw up. He is the absolute last person I want to hear when football is on. Him and Joe Buck.

Apparently Olbermann DID say that - it's here:

Olbermann Interview in Playboy Magazine

Look at the left side bar under his photos for the quote:

"Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda -- worse for our society. It's as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was."

No wonder no one knows he said it...who reads Playboy?

OldLineTexan

re: #40 ornery elephant

Olbermann: "Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda -- worse for our society. It's as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was."

I didn't read the Playboy piece, but what I see missing from all the quotes of Olbermann's comments are where he actually says, "I know this because . . ." or the like in order to justify what is demonstrably not true (i.e., Fox News being worse for the country than the Klan).

Not surprised, mind you, just sayin' he's obviously full of mass amounts of shit.

It's interesting that Crocker was on the scene at the Sabra/Shatila massacre by the Lebanese Army.

The diplomat is no slouch either.

right on justadot

re: #52 Piglet-U93

re: #45 David IV of Georgia

P e t r a e u s - Petraeus - Pe trae us

Oh, I see—I wrote "father" Patris when I should have written "stone" Petris.

re: #62 David IV of Georgia

re: #52 Piglet-U93

re: #45 David IV of Georgia

P e t r a e u s - Petraeus - Pe trae us

Did my unicode not work for you?

not utf-16 compliant, fellow Georgian :)

Charles, I agree. I didn't realize he was there! I just got here and haven't heard what all was said...this guy seems sharp as a tack and loves the facts.

Sabra/shatila was a seriously messed up event!

Petraeus rocks! I doubt if half of the lefties in congress even listened with an open mind.

BTW, what happened to the + and -?

re: #39 tradewind

He's a smart and accomplished man.

Poor dear was put on the spot by a bunch of left-wing political hacks and holders of J.D.'s today. (No offense intended to the marvelous attorneys here.)

re: #70 Piglet-U93

Actually Texan (still South). David of Georgia (Asia) kicked Caliph Mohammad ibn Mohammad and his little Jihad circus' butt.

Later lizards, have to go, wifeys calling for some attention ;)

see you on 9/11, never forget

re: #41 mrkwong

Obama mailed his response to Dkos even before testimony was finished.

Wow. General Petraeus is da man. Color me impressed.

thats ok tradewind, he's one helluva soldier and he conducted himself as such. Makes me proud of all of us. He went into that room today and conducted warfare...his way.

re: #51 Noam Sayin'

re: #43 MandyManners

I have learned that a male mantis' reproductive organs are asymetrical, whatever that means.

One is bigger than the others.

Hey. Waddya know?

The search for knowledge relentlessly marches onward.

re: #68 Intestinal Fortitude

He was a good guy, but I don't remember much about him. (I was in 3rd Brigade.) You probably heard a lot more in the 101st. Very professional. Reminds me of my battalion commander, who left to command in 1st Ranger Bn. Despite what the MSM, the liberal elite, and raving moonbats say, we have some of the most capable, intelligent human beings commanding our troops.

Gen. Petraeus is one of the special ones.

(good to meet ya, bro')

re: #50 tradewind

Still not having luck, but thanks anyway. I'm sure I'll find it later.

re: #52 Piglet-U93

re: #45 David IV of Georgia

P e t r a e u s - Petraeus - Pe trae us

Is that Greek? German?

General Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker are sounding intelligent, presenting lots of important facts, and at the top of their game.

This is why I have to side with the Truthers on this one... It's just a no brainer, I'm afraid.

re: #82 MandyManners

Dutch, I think.

re: #57 Intestinal Fortitude

Mandy I think he was in the 82nd. Not sure about SF. Don't think he had anything to do with 5th group.

Thanks!

Petraeus is greek/Latin...ergo sum ROMAN. who better to put things right in the middle east?

Good to meet you too justadot.

Yeah, he came to command as I was going to Hood for some training. After coming back from that deployment just after 9/11, he was prepping the 101st Division to go to OIF. He does not slack.

re: #73 MandyManners

He's a smart and accomplished man.

Despite what the Lefties may assert (considering the disdain they exhibit towards the military) and the hackneyed, cliche portrayals favored by Hollywood, one doesn't usually rise to the upper levels of military command by being a dummy. Generals/Admirals/etc. are on the whole highly educated and very intelligent.

Petraeus is a Greek name. we were talking about it in the lounge today

re: #88 StinkHammer

re: #73 MandyManners

He's a smart and accomplished man.

Despite what the Lefties may assert (considering the disdain they exhibit towards the military) and the hackneyed, cliche portrayals favored by Hollywood, one doesn't usually rise to the upper levels of military command by being a dummy. Generals/Admirals/etc. are on the whole highly educated and very intelligent.

you forgot to say that they're come fully equipped with a can of whupass that they can open on demand...

re: #76 Killgore Trout

re: #41 mrkwong

Obama mailed his response to Dkos even before testimony was finished.

LOL

BTW I wonder if Osama is posting on Kos yet...after all, it's free to register.

re: #11 tradewind

#6,
Just go to [Link: www.foxnews.com...]
and look for a live feed (What's On Air Now)

Argggh. I can't find anything on Foxnews' site that says 'watch now'. I wonder if they are blocking that feature for us Canuckistanis.

Distinguished Honor Grad of his Ranger School Class... and he finished it dragging his Ranger Buddy along by a rope tied between them.

The man's a stud.

Petraios is Greek meaning "Of Rock or Stone". It was a nickname for the god Poseidon. Petraeus is a Latin form of the name.

Source: Liddell & Scott's Greek-English Lexicon

re: #91 Pvt Bin Jammin

Among the Dems it isn't about who can surrender the most, it's who can surrender the fastest.

re: #63 justadot

re: #47 MandyManners

He commanded 1st Brigade, 82d part of the time I was in 82d.

I once knew someone who once was 82d. Interesting fellow.

#91 Pvt Bin Jammin

"BTW I wonder if Osama is posting on Kos yet...after all, it's free to register."

If I am not mistaken, correct me if I am wrong on this one, Markos Moulitsas is a distant third cousin of Osama Bin Laden, twice removed.

re: #20 kynna

I do like "live by the Soros, die by the Soros."

Very profound. :-D

I just hope they won't take us all down with them. :-(

Charles, I nominate tradewind's phrase to add to LGF's rotating titles!

re: #90 towerclimber37

you forgot to say that they're come fully equipped with a can of whupass that they can open on demand...

I tend to refer to it as an entire Time-Life Series of whupass, but your point is well taken. ;^)

Dave, I thought I was right, but zimriel told me its also a greek form of the name Peter...so I guess we're both right...

peter was, after all, called the rock also.

re: #92 justacanuck

re: #11 tradewind

#6,
Just go to [Link: www.foxnews.com...]
and look for a live feed (What's On Air Now)

Argggh. I can't find anything on Foxnews' site that says 'watch now'. I wonder if they are blocking that feature for us Canuckistanis.

More like the Canadian government is blocking it. Do you know how hard it was to force the cable operators to carry Fox News in Canada at all? Al Jazeera was a lot easier to push through.

re: #67 Gus205

The diplomat is no slouch either.

True. He doesn't sound like the usual cock-tail circuit shmoozer who's read a bunch of white papers.

re: #92 justacanuck

re: #11 tradewind

#6,
Just go to [Link: www.foxnews.com...]
and look for a live feed (What's On Air Now)

Argggh. I can't find anything on Foxnews' site that says 'watch now'. I wonder if they are blocking that feature for us Canuckistanis.

I think the live feed is gone for the night. Sorry.

re:#59 mellymel

Thanks for the link. I wish they would play that video on every station tomorrow. Sadly, they won't.
I for one will never forget nor will I let my children forget.

cocktail-circuit

re: #87 Intestinal Fortitude

He does not slack.

Yeah, that's one thing I expect in a commander. I'd rather have someone who will push you to your limit and beyond than someone who's just waiting for a slot to open in the Pentagon.

It causes units to fall apart.

re: #92 justacanuck

No, it's a cable television show that you have to pay for. You can't watch O'Reilly or Hannity or most of their programs from live feed on their web site.

re: #72 Pvt Bin Jammin

Petraeus rocks! I doubt if half of the lefties in congress even listened with an open mind.

BTW, what happened to the + and -?

They resent the fuck out of a man who has done more than push around paper and kiss babies.

re: #1 me

Why is this important?

Because it is an adult conversation tonight.

re: #101 Pro-Bush Canuck

re: #92 justacanuck

re: #11 tradewind

#6,
Just go to [Link: www.foxnews.com...]
and look for a live feed (What's On Air Now)

Argggh. I can't find anything on Foxnews' site that says 'watch now'. I wonder if they are blocking that feature for us Canuckistanis.

More like the Canadian government is blocking it. Do you know how hard it was to force the cable operators to carry Fox News in Canada at all? Al Jazeera was a lot easier to push through.

Don't blame our current Conservative government for that. You know darn well the CRTC is populated with loyal Liberal leftards. LLL !

What ever happened to the congressional hard disk that was sequestered a few years ago after some Republican aide was able to read Dem messages on it... the hard drive with the memos on it showing how the Dems were talking marching orders from leftwing NGO's?

Calm, cool and collected -- Democrats are seething.

re: #108 MandyManners

I had to clear my cache and re-login to get LGF to act properly.

#111 that should be "taking marching orders from leftwing NGO's"

re: #95 Killgore Trout

re: #91 Pvt Bin Jammin

Among the Dems it isn't about who can surrender the most, it's who can surrender the fastest.

Yore: #97 jeff macmillan

#91 Pvt Bin Jammin

"BTW I wonder if Osama is posting on Kos yet...after all, it's free to register."

If I am not mistaken, correct me if I am wrong on this one, Markos Moulitsas is a distant third cousin of Osama Bin Laden, twice removed.

You've got that right, Killgore.

Jeff, I though Markos was just Osama's sockpuppet.

re: #96 MandyManners

Interesting? (I'm not sure I should ask.)

re: #84 justadot

re: #82 MandyManners

Dutch, I think.

Makes sense. (I got some Dutch in me, too.)

God bless General Petraeus and all our armed forces.

Off (but only slightly) topic, here's a Funny Bit

re: #2 chicagodudewhotrades

Porkbellies! SELL!

#115 Pvt Bin Jammin

"Jeff, I though Markos was just Osama's sockpuppet."

Major General Sock Puppet, I believe.

Evening. Just a quick drive-by before I crash to let you know that both my Canadian and American flags are waving in the breeze on my deck to honor the murdered on 9/11.

G*d keep and bless their souls.

Markos hasn't seen an evil terrorst he wasn't willing to defend as long as the President of the United States isn't in his 1 track minded political party paradise.

I'd go punch on a brick wall for that man until he told me to stop, or even go try to talk sense to liberals until he told me to stop...

re: #88 StinkHammer

re: #73 MandyManners

He's a smart and accomplished man.

Despite what the Lefties may assert (considering the disdain they exhibit towards the military) and the hackneyed, cliche portrayals favored by Hollywood, one doesn't usually rise to the upper levels of military command by being a dummy. Generals/Admirals/etc. are on the whole highly educated and very intelligent.

When was the last movie in which a high-ranking officer was portrayed in a positive light?

According to ABC's website [Link: abcnews.go.com...]
the ad MoveOn placed in the NYT cost them $65,000. As the medium amounts to preaching to their own choir, I wonder how we can convince them to place about a hundred more ads in the Times before the primaries?

Five threads for only one General? And he's noteworthy because..?

/channeling CZ.

re: #108 MandyManners

re: #72 Pvt Bin Jammin

Petraeus rocks! I doubt if half of the lefties in congress even listened with an open mind.

BTW, what happened to the + and -?

They resent the fuck out of a man who has done more than push around paper and kiss babies.

It absolutely boggles my mind.

re: #89 chicagodudewhotrades

Petraeus is a Greek name. we were talking about it in the lounge today

Greek?

I can't keep this stuff straight.

I'm sure someone has posted this today by now...

Don’t Ask Me What I Think about the Petraeus Report
_{Ask the battalion commanders.}

By Michael Yon

-snip-

Weeks ago, as the deadline for General David Petraeus’s progress report on the war loomed, journalists were already asking me what I thought of it. Then, as now, I do not know what to think of the report since it is not yet published. Even this coming week, after listening to the general’s testimony before Congress, I will have to read the report and transcripts numerous times, sleep on the information, and reflect on it in light of my own observations of the situation in Iraq. The outcome of the war in Iraq, and to some extent the greater War on Terror, will largely depend upon our decisions today. The outcome is too important for quick words. Many will try to be the first to report on the report, and their reports likely will be the most unreliable.

Why do I care?! He's an AMERICAN. That's all that matters.

Sorry. Link didn't work.

re: #125 macintush

If Charles' ad dept. would get up off of their asses, they could get some of this gravy!
/

re: #118 USBeast

God bless General Petraeus and all our armed forces.

Off (but only slightly) topic, here's a Funny Bit

that was a bloody hoot!

re: #119 cbinflux

re: #128 MandyManners

It's all Greek to you. F*CK IT!
/

@ You Americans: You can be damn proud to have someone like Gen. David H. Petraeus. Read his report, watched the live feed, awesome guy! He will get the job done, I'm sure.

O.T. NEWSFLASH: BBC has finally hit rock bottom. Seriously!
Link Quote:

Peace be upon him

Throughout the BBC's section on Islam you will see peace be upon him or (pbuh) after the name Muhammad.

Muslims say peace be upon him after every mention of Muhammad's name, as a mark of respect. Muslims do the same when they write the Prophet's name, adding pbuh.

*barf*

re: #124 MandyManners

When was the last movie in which a high-ranking officer was portrayed in a positive light?

Wow -- you've stumped me for the moment. Perhaps a good trivia question . . . ?

Help us out, Lizards.

re: #121 Miss Trixie

Evening. Just a quick drive-by before I crash to let you know that both my Canadian and American flags are waving in the breeze on my deck to honor the murdered on 9/11.

G*d keep and bless their souls.

Good for you! I always fly the flag but may put up the big holiday version again for tomorrow. Am also putting two on my car again.

I will NEVER forget.

re: #93 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Distinguished Honor Grad of his Ranger School Class... and he finished it dragging his Ranger Buddy along by a rope tied between them.

The man's a stud.

Stud? But, I thought that...nevermind. I'll not trivialize this topic.

Ooh. Asking him about the NYT ad.

re: #124 MandyManners

When was the last movie in which a high-ranking officer was portrayed in a positive light?

Wow -- you've stumped me for the moment. Perhaps a good trivia question . . . ?

Help us out, Lizards.

BAND OF BROTHERS (SPIELBERG)

re: #119 cbinflux

Corn:Buy... thanks to ethanol usage

re: #137 StinkHammer

A couple of Mel Gibson films
Band of Brothers
Saving Pvt. Ryan
the Navajo film
...

re: #94 David IV of Georgia

Petraios is Greek meaning "Of Rock or Stone". It was a nickname for the god Poseidon. Petraeus is a Latin form of the name.

Source: Liddell & Scott's Greek-English Lexicon

Wowza!

re: #136 PatFromGermany

@ You Americans: You can be damn proud to have someone like Gen. David H. Petraeus. Read his report, watched the live feed, awesome guy! He will get the job done, I'm sure.

O.T. NEWSFLASH: BBC has finally hit rock bottom. Seriously!
Link Quote:

Peace be upon himThroughout the BBC's section on Islam you will see peace be upon him or (pbuh) after the name Muhammad.

Muslims say peace be upon him after every mention of Muhammad's name, as a mark of respect. Muslims do the same when they write the Prophet's name, adding pbuh.

*barf*

personally, I hope he's roasting in Hell, while being buttsurfed by every rabid dog that ever had to be put down. Let shaitan feast on his entrails and those of the terrorists.

Still fried at the fact that the Dems permitted, nay, facilitated the attendance of known agitators, with prior arrest records for their professional inability to maintain decorum during important testimony. They are PAID agitators, not amateurs, and even amateurs, with their run-ins with the law, they should have made persona non grata at ANYTHING in the
Where is the SECURITY we expect in the building?
People with so little class and self-restraint as to make spectacles of themselves at their ages, shows a huge disconnect with normal social decorum. They get jacked up enough with all the stroking the Dems are giving them to disrupt proceedings that are designed to INFORM THE AMERICAN PUBLIC, so how can anyone guarantee one or two of them won't snap and begin physical attacks against the persons of their manipulated ire?
WHO is PAYING these people?
Where is Cindy Sheehan's tax form? Where is her income statement? Who signs her paycheck? Planes, trains and blames.
DUMP THE DEMOCRATS - PLAYING SURRENDER GAMES WHILE AMERICA FIGHTS.

re: #9 kham

re: #1 me

Why is this important?

Because the questions are more intellectual compared to those offered during the circus on Capitol Hill today.

Listen to Kham, me. He is trying to tell you something.
Furthemore this is the first time I have heard anything but soundbites all day. I assume that was too much for out friend at #1. Just try to pay attention-you might learn something.

re: #142 chicagodudewhotrades

Local articles say it's big plans are crashing/on HOLD. Until gas gets to 7$4/gal.

re: #124 MandyManners

Usually they are either bumbling or power-mad. That they could be honorable, patriotic, virtuous, and intelligent seems impossible to Hollywood film writers. I guess the Hollywood writers expect them to be ethically-challenged money-hungry leeches like themselves.

re: #113 David IV of Georgia

re: #108 MandyManners

I had to clear my cache and re-login to get LGF to act properly.

Ummm...okay?

re: #139 MandyManners

lol.

re: #35 Intestinal Fortitude

Mandy,

I was in the 101st when Petraeus took command after GEN Cody in 02. He's the real deal I assure you.

You know when you have a true leader. You also know when you have a sack of crap in a leadership position.

re: #143 cbinflux

A couple of Mel Gibson films
Band of Brothers
Saving Pvt. Ryan
the Navajo film

Black Hawk Down, maybe? Don't recall the specifics in that film too well...

re: #116 justadot

re: #96 MandyManners

Interesting? (I'm not sure I should ask.)

Just someone with whom I've lost contact. He had some interesting tales.

we all know what happens to a sack of crap...usually they end up in the congress...
*sigh* they're all democraps because that particular party is always willing to use a former soldier as a poster boy for how bad the military is.

When was the last movie in which a high-ranking officer was portrayed in a positive light?

The General in Independence Day?

"Is that glass bulletproof?"
"No sir."

"Get on the wires. Tell 'em how to take those sons of bitches down."

/on the other hand, maybe the writers meant that to be negative, like they meant Jack Nicholson to be evil in A Few Good Men. But damn it, he was right. We want him on that wall, we need him on that wall.

re: #126 cbinflux

Five threads for only one General? And he's noteworthy because..?

/channeling CZ.

Once again, you've made a fool of yourself...

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

re: #127 Pvt Bin Jammin

I doubt the general ever had his lunch money taken away by a future congressman.

re: #144 MandyManners

From The Long, Blinding Road to War:

"The devil is in the details," Petraeus often observed, and his own biography was both unusual and preparatory for the role of a modern major general. His father, Sixtus Petraeus, a Dutch sea captain, had taken refuge in New York when World War II began, then married a Brooklyn woman whom he met at the Seamen's Church Institute. After commanding a Liberty ship through the war, the elder Petraeus eventually gave up sea duty to work for a New York power company. He settled in Cornwall, a few miles north of the U.S. Military Academy, where his son graduated near the top of the class of 1974. The young officer married Holly Knowlton, daughter of West Point's superintendent.

re: #145 towerclimber37

Just as they always add "Our Blessed Saviour" to Jesus/Lord/Christ..., and "___" to Mary, and "PFDB" to Buddha cites. What's yer beef?!

re: #153 StinkHammer

Yep, that one too.

re: #157 Maximu§

re: #126 cbinflux

Five threads for only one General? And he's noteworthy because..?

/channeling CZ.

Once again, you've made a fool of yourself...

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

Hey blackhorse! 2nd ACR here...bindlach/Merrill barracks/Hof border camp.

heh. as usual, the Cav is putting things into perspective..

OT: Dem. Senator moves to block Mexican trucks...

Just remembered. Walid Phares also had a good column the Democrats should read, particularly Kucinich and Pelosi.

Iran's Plan for Iraq

-snip-

Should American and Coalition forces withdraw immediately, begin pulling out, or staying the course, is the center of the ongoing debate. But to answer, one has to understand the goals of the adversaries in this ongoing conflict. Al Qaeda has a plan for Iraq, and U.S. forces are fighting it along with Iraqi units. But the direct geopolitical threat that is linked to the role of U.S. troops in that country is the Iranian regime and its allies in the region and inside Iraq. How does Tehran see the American presence, what are its plans for Iraq, and what will happen if U.S. forces are withdrawn abruptly?

Prior to 2001, the Iranian regime had developed regional ambitions, including a military alliance with Syria, continuous support of Hezbollah in Lebanon and a slow-pace development of a nuclear weapon. In the 1980s, its proxies delivered blows to the U.S. in Beirut and by May 2000, its allies in Lebanon had reached international borders with Israel.

During the decade following the first Gulf War, the Pasdaran were training and arming Iraqi militias for future mission in Iraq. The Khomeinists and Hafez Assad had an Iraq plan years before the U.S. invaded in 2003: overrun the Shia areas in the center and the south and open a land bridge between Iran and Syria.[1] But 9/11 shook off the foundations of the Iranian plan. By December of that year, U.S. and Coalition forces removed the Taliban and opened the path for a democratic government in Afghanistan.

I can't believe how lucky I am to live in a time where I actually get to see a 4 star General on TV , even if I couldn't meet him in person. There are too many wanks who do not realize the importance of this. oh well, I guess you gotta be 40 or so too really appreciate this one

re: #163 towerclimber37

re: #157 Maximu§

re: #126 cbinflux

Five threads for only one General? And he's noteworthy because..?

/channeling CZ.

Once again, you've made a fool of yourself...

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

Hey blackhorse! 2nd ACR here...bindlach/Merrill barracks/Hof border camp.

heh. as usual, the Cav is putting things into perspective..

WorkHorse my good friend!...I was a 19D for 4 years

I recommend Gary Sinise to pay General Petraeus in the movie.

Sean Penn better not even think about auditioning for the role.

re: #156 Silhouette

Right on both counts. I wanted to see Jack Nicholson smack Tom Cruise right out of that courtroom!

And I love that line and delivery
"is that glass bulletproof?"
and then they all unloaded their weapons.

Excellent.

re: #158 MandyManners

re: #127 Pvt Bin Jammin

I doubt the general ever had his lunch money taken away by a future congressman.

H*ll no. I'm sure he set all the bullies straight. He is one heck of a guy.

OT: new poll shows Fred first, Giuliani 2nd...

Perplexed, aint it the truth? I had a Battalion Commander that when given an awards form to sign, if it was missing a blurb he would downgrade the award. He was a pogue.

PIMF- Gary Sinise should PLAY General Petraeus...not pay.

Just a footnote from our German 'friends' on Iran and the IAEA's NEW nuclear deal:

"We are waiting to see it work and hope to see it accomplish very soon."

Gottwald said that as IAEA Director General Mohamed ElBaradei told the Board of Governors "we hope to see the matter be resolved within two or three years."

2 to 3 YEARS never sounded so bad, huh?

re: #156 Silhouette

. . . maybe the writers meant that to be negative, like they meant Jack Nicholson to be evil in A Few Good Men. But damn it, he was right.

Good point. Similar is the fact that as I've matured I find myself much more sympathetic to Warren Oates' Sgt. Hulka character (with his notions of honor and duty) in Stripes than the smartass John Winger portrayed by Bill Murray. Hulka is meant to symbolize all that the movie is out to skewer, yet to me he's the only character worth admiring.

Funny how a little aged perspective will shed a different light on things...

re: #168 Maximu§

11mike here.
toujours pret!

Good to see another old trooper on the lines again.

Despite the ad,
despite the circus,
despite the outbursts,
despite the grandstanding by the left,
despite the utter disrespect shown an honorable man,
despite the spin that is sure to come,
it was a good day to be an American. I will sleep better knowing that Gen. Petraeus is on our side. Very appropriate as we go into a day on which we remember heroes. He didn't flinch today. That's an American -and if it isn't anymore it should be again.

re: #40 ornery elephant

re: #22 Sizzlack

Apparently Olbermann DID say that - it's here:

Olbermann Interview in Playboy Magazine

Look at the left side bar under his photos for the quote:

"Al Qaeda really hurt us, but not as much as Rupert Murdoch has hurt us, particularly in the case of Fox News. Fox News is worse than Al Qaeda -- worse for our society. It's as dangerous as the Ku Klux Klan ever was."

Wow he is friggin nuts. I was unaware Fox News was burning crosses on peoples lawns and lynching african americans. Where have I been.

re: #163 towerclimber37

Camp Reed and 3rd Squadron Ops 1981-84. Got invited to Regiment but PCS'd instead.

Toujours Pret

re: #135 cbinflux

re: #128 MandyManners

It's all Greek to you. F*CK IT!
/

*snicker*

Have a great evening Lizardoids...God bless America and Her Leaders.

re: #137 StinkHammer

re: #124 MandyManners

When was the last movie in which a high-ranking officer was portrayed in a positive light?

Wow -- you've stumped me for the moment. Perhaps a good trivia question . . . ?

Help us out, Lizards.

Patton.

re: #177 towerclimber37

re: #168 Maximu§

11mike here.
toujours pret!

Good to see another old trooper on the lines again.

My boy is getting ready to join up...wants to be a Dumb Ass Tanker!

The shame...

re: #160 cbinflux

re: #145 towerclimber37

Just as they always add "Our Blessed Saviour" to Jesus/Lord/Christ..., and "___" to Mary, and "PFDB" to Buddha cites. What's yer beef?!

when and where was the LAST time you went to a Christian church because your "always" comment was indeed misinformed, and to force such on secular media is the epitome of dhimmification!

re: #176 StinkHammer
Interesting. I thought the scene in the bathroom was the point of the movie, honor and duty, and Winger gets it right in the end.

re: #141 jeff macmillan

re: #124 MandyManners

When was the last movie in which a high-ranking officer was portrayed in a positive light?

Wow -- you've stumped me for the moment. Perhaps a good trivia question . . . ?

Help us out, Lizards.

BAND OF BROTHERS (SPIELBERG)

Granted.

re: #182 Intestinal Fortitude

Have a great evening Lizardoids...God bless America and Her Leaders.

Amen to that. Take care.

re: #183 MandyManners

Wasn't Patton initially written to show Patton in a bad light? (of course it had the opposite effect -or was rewritten). I thought I heard that somewhere.

re: #145 towerclimber37

re: #136 PatFromGermany

@ You Americans: You can be damn proud to have someone like Gen. David H. Petraeus. Read his report, watched the live feed, awesome guy! He will get the job done, I'm sure.

O.T. NEWSFLASH: BBC has finally hit rock bottom. Seriously!
Link Quote:

Peace be upon himThroughout the BBC's section on Islam you will see peace be upon him or (pbuh) after the name Muhammad.
Muslims say peace be upon him after every mention of Muhammad's name, as a mark of respect. Muslims do the same when they write the Prophet's name, adding pbuh.

*barf*

personally, I hope he's roasting in Hell, while being buttsurfed by every rabid dog that ever had to be put down. Let shaitan feast on his entrails and those of the terrorists.

You must learn to break out of your shell and not be so reticent. C'mon. You can do it.

The leftys are out of their mind with fear on this one. It's actually looking like we might win and their democrats are powerless to stop it. All they can do is declare defeat over and over and over.

Now that they've invested everything in defeat there's no turning back and they know it.

re: #178 Bloodnok

He's not only one of us, but one of the BEST of us. what gives me comfort is that, in the Army, People like him don't just settle for "personal best", they make sure their troopers emulate their commander.
If this is who the Iraqis have for a role model, then they'll do well.

I know..I'm gushing.

I was listeneing and then I saw the FOX reprot on the IDF Kassam shelling with the usual crap about

"Palestinian militants in Gaza fire rockets daily at towns in southern Israel. The crude rockets wreak panic but rarely cause serious casualties." editorializing to excuse the Palestinian bad acts. CRAP CRAP CRAP. I nearly threw my remote at the TV.

O.T! – Terrorist activity?

Some may or may not know, but the US has begun to allow Mexico Trucks (and drivers) to transport into the US. This has been fairly big news here in Texas (Houston), but has not necessarily main stream. Today there were two stories that were brought to my attention by my Hubby. I have a direct link to one.. here

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

A truck carrying more than 25 tons of dynamite exploded Monday in northern Mexico, killing at least 23 people and injuring more than 140, a government spokesman said.

Video footage showed the burned-out, mangled shell of the truck and nearby cars damaged by the blast.

The other link I have is not so straight forward and you have to scroll down a bit.
[Link: www.cnn.com...]
Sabotage suspected in Mexico's gas pipeline blasts; evacuations ordered
(CNN) -- Saboteurs may have been responsible for a series of six explosions that ripped through a natural gas pipeline in eastern Mexico's Veracruz state early Monday, sending a massive fireball into the air, Mexico's state oil company said Monday.
The statement from Mexico's Petroleos Mexicanos (Pemex) said the incident was "caused by premeditated acts, which led to the immediate suspension of the natural gas provided by these lines."
Need someone with more time and research abilities than I have.
***
Hope the links work I have not ever tried to post one.

re: #149 David IV of Georgia

re: #124 MandyManners

Usually they are either bumbling or power-mad. That they could be honorable, patriotic, virtuous, and intelligent seems impossible to Hollywood film writers. I guess the Hollywood writers expect them to be ethically-challenged money-hungry leeches like themselves.

Except for the woefully small number of previously mentioned examples, I believe you have a most excellent point.

re: #179 Sizzlack
Maybe he meant "hurt us at MSNBC", not "hurt us in the USA".
Fox News hasn't hurt the USA and as far as I know, the KKK hasn't hurt MSNBC.
Fox news has indeed hurt MSNBC and the KKK has indeed hurt the USA.
I know that's not what he means, but it does make sense that way.

re: #184 Maximu%uFFFD

re: #177 towerclimber37

re: #168 Maximu§

11mike here.
toujours pret!

Good to see another old trooper on the lines again.

My boy is getting ready to join up...wants to be a Dumb Ass Tanker!

The shame...

hey...let him! you can sleep a whole squad on those things! and they come with air conditioning...and a BAgun!
of course, when folks like us hear "scouts out!" they hear "crunchies on the ground"...
I will pray for your son. Lend him all the knowledge you have, so that he'll come home himself with the wisdom we earned the hard way.

re: #151 vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

re: #139 MandyManners

lol.

8-)

6 years ago tonight was my last night as a relative innocent. 24 hours later the world was very different. For a few days, I saw Americans coming together, so determined. I remember trying to buy a flag and there were none to be had.

6 years ago.

Goodnight LGF friends. Never forget.

re: #192 towerclimber37

re: #178 Bloodnok

He's not only one of us, but one of the BEST of us. what gives me comfort is that, in the Army, People like him don't just settle for "personal best", they make sure their troopers emulate their commander.
If this is who the Iraqis have for a role model, then they'll do well.

I know..I'm gushing.

if you're gushing, i'm swooning.

re: #185 paxnhymn

For a guy singing peaceful hymns, you're kinda ornery, and maybe just a widdle bit thick.

/And just for that, I'm giving you a minus 3.

re: #194 Dolphin

Yes I noticed it too. Al Qaeda gearing up for a spat of messy things to honor the weird conjunction and Ramadan, Roch Hashanna and the 9-11 anniversary with Bin Laden's new tinted and trimmed beard?

Something is up. The USA is so big it will be like a few wasps stinging an elephant but it could be a bad few days for a few individuals.

re: #194 Dolphin

Me - on the first link they state that "Aguisn said that there is no indication of foul play. The cause of the explosion is under investigation." For some reason that did not come through. Did not want to bias the stories.

re: #159 justadot

re: #144 MandyManners

From The Long, Blinding Road to War:

"The devil is in the details," Petraeus often observed, and his own biography was both unusual and preparatory for the role of a modern major general. His father, Sixtus Petraeus, a Dutch sea captain, had taken refuge in New York when World War II began, then married a Brooklyn woman whom he met at the Seamen's Church Institute. After commanding a Liberty ship through the war, the elder Petraeus eventually gave up sea duty to work for a New York power company. He settled in Cornwall, a few miles north of the U.S. Military Academy, where his son graduated near the top of the class of 1974. The young officer married Holly Knowlton, daughter of West Point's superintendent.

Never heard of that one.

I'm not hung up on the Greek/Dutch thing any more. Just look at the British Royal Family. They got it going from all over the Continent.

And, after all, the general is an AMERICAN!

re: #183 MandyManners

re: #137 StinkHammer

re: #124 MandyManners

When was the last movie in which a high-ranking officer was portrayed in a positive light?

Wow -- you've stumped me for the moment. Perhaps a good trivia question . . . ?
Help us out, Lizards.

Patton.

Ah, great movie. Interesting man, as well, whose constitution backs up my point: aristocratic, highly intelligent and well-read, spoke several languages, etc. Victor Davis Hanson has an excellent (as usual) book in which he discusses Patton's qualities.

I ain't never gonna' catch up.

re: #194 Dolphin

...MigueldowninMexico doesn't sign in until the wee hours...

re: #172 Ma Sands

A bump after announcing is to be expected. Real numbers will take a bit longer- honeymoon period and whatnot.

re: #192 towerclimber37

I just love that the Code Shriek protesters had the nerve to think that a man with his track record could possibly be fazed by screams and chants. I mean this is not the local politician that they are used to dealing with. That kind of thing will shake a Congressman to his core, but a General? It was almost as though his scope just couldn't comprehend something so juvenile and insignificant. I would love to meet more of these men (after the job is done, of course).

re: #176 StinkHammer

Sgt. Hulka character (with his notions of honor and duty)

Which comes back to Nicholson.
"We use words like honor, duty, country. To us, they're a way of life. To you they're a punchline."
/imperfect memory paraphrase

Hulka was supposed to be worthy of ridicule because he used those exact words. I had never thought of the Stripes angle. But "Lighten up, Francis" and " We've been kickin' ass for 200 years." are still great truths.

re: #197 towerclimber37

Fuck NO! You ever see what a Sabo round does to the inside of a tank?!
91b30...8years...flight status is for the young...
tell him if he wants to be cool and safe join the Air Force and go into Special Ops or something...I always wanted to be a Spectre gunner myself...

re: #199 mama winger
Night, Mama Winger, I'll not forget.

re: #190 MandyManners

I like the frescoes of Mohammad (BBB - burn, baby, burn) in old European Catholic churches. Demons disemboweling him, slaking his thirst with molten mettle, and so on. A fitting tribute to a man who brought so much to the world.

re: #199 mama winger

good night, mama...did you see my comment down below?

re: #197 towerclimber37

re: #184 Maximu©

re: #177 towerclimber37

re: #168 Maximu§

11mike here.
toujours pret!

Good to see another old trooper on the lines again.

My boy is getting ready to join up...wants to be a Dumb Ass Tanker!

The shame...

hey...let him! you can sleep a whole squad on those things! and they come with air conditioning...and a BAgun!
of course, when folks like us hear "scouts out!" they hear "crunchies on the ground"...
I will pray for your son. Lend him all the knowledge you have, so that he'll come home himself with the wisdom we earned the hard way.

Back to work...take care brother and my Son says "hi"

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

re: #124 MandyManners

The Birth of a Nation ? No, wait that was a Confederate general. Nevermind.

re: #178 Bloodnok

you rock!

Night Mama

Max

FOX switching to the polygamist trial. I hope that SOB goes to jail for a very long time. Polygamy=child sex abuse and not just to the teenage brides. The kids in these cults get sexually abused all the time because Mom is powerless, usually living in poverty, "fighting with the sister-wives" and has too many kids to watch hem all properly.

I wish the press would quit treating polygamy like something titilating.

re: #169 DesertSage

I recommend Gary Sinise to pay General Petraeus in the movie.

Sean Penn better not even think about auditioning for the role.

Yesss!

Walken's a tad too old.

Oh sorry back to the McCann story.

re: #186 Crimsonfisted

I thought the scene in the bathroom was the point of the movie, honor and duty, and Winger gets it right in the end.

I suppose it could be interpreted that way. I tend to think that, keeping to his character, he more like stumbles into getting it right. But you make a good point -- after all, he does embark on all the dangerous stuff to rescue his comrades.

re: #199 mama winger

6 years ago tonight was my last night as a relative innocent. 24 hours later the world was very different. For a few days, I saw Americans coming together, so determined. I remember trying to buy a flag and there were none to be had.

6 years ago.

Goodnight LGF friends. Never forget.

hey mama, i had to use the center fold -out page flag of the daily snooze. we had such a flag shortage here the newspapers were printing them. i put it up in my building and some ass tore it down. i rampaged thru that place demanding to know who was the coward who would crumple up a news print flag and throw it in the gutter.

re: #221 MandyManners

And wars are so seldom fought with cowbells.

McCann=Jon Benet Ramsy - please... no...

re: #227 Judith

The rental car DNA looks bad. Grits von Cistern is on the next flight.

re: #189 Bloodnok

re: #183 MandyManners

Wasn't Patton initially written to show Patton in a bad light? (of course it had the opposite effect -or was rewritten). I thought I heard that somewhere.

I have no idea. The movie certainly showed his warts but, the upshot--to me, at least--was that his warts were just different perspectives of his strengths.

(Does that make sense?)

re: #201 cbinflux

Just because I'm a Christian does not mean i'm a doormat, and you didn't answer the question, because I don't particularly like it when what Christians do gets misrespresented...good or bad...

re: #212 paxnhymn

re: #197 towerclimber37

Fuck NO! You ever see what a Sabo round does to the inside of a tank?!
91b30...8years...flight status is for the young...
tell him if he wants to be cool and safe join the Air Force and go into Special Ops or something...I always wanted to be a Spectre gunner myself...

hahahahah yah..no doubt!
I saw an AC 130 blow a hole in the roof of a small palace with the howitzer...talk about one of the coolest sights on the planet!
keep in mind that the sabo rounds he's likely to encounter wont do much for an Abrams. the only thing that they can do is try an IED..and we're clearing those with crunchies.
besides...boresighting a tank has GOT to be easier..

Just in case anyone missed it, here's the Funny Bit again.

i'm sorry lizards, but there are just too many people tha tvote on emotions, that vote for selfish reasons, that just do not have a clue about what the democrats have been doing for 60+ years.

treason has become cheap.

the Constitution is not worth the paper it is printed on, that is the fault of both parties.

re: #125 macintush

According to ABC's website [Link: abcnews.go.com...]
the ad MoveOn placed in the NYT cost them $65,000. As the medium amounts to preaching to their own choir, I wonder how we can convince them to place about a hundred more ads in the Times before the primaries?

Naw - it cost Al Qaeda $65,000 to have it published by MoveOn.org.
Isn't MoveOn another front organization for al Qaeda?

{^_^}

re: #199 mama winger

6 years ago tonight was my last night as a relative innocent. 24 hours later the world was very different. For a few days, I saw Americans coming together, so determined. I remember trying to buy a flag and there were none to be had.

6 years ago.

Goodnight LGF friends. Never forget.

Sweetest dreams, mama winger. Sweetest dreams.

re: #208 Ma Sands

Could someone pass it along in the am or anytime.

I have been on vacation the past week and am unable to lurk on the d.t. as usual.

Thanks.

Kewl, a vote against yerself is -3.

re: #211 Silhouette

Hulka was supposed to be worthy of ridicule because he used those exact words. I had never thought of the Stripes angle. But "Lighten up, Francis" and " We've been kickin' ass for 200 years." are still great truths.

As Crimsonfisted pointed out in #186 above, the one-on-one scene in the latrine between Hulka and Winger I believe was pivotal in defining the real meat of Hulka, where I (eventually) realized he was the more sympathetic of the two characters.

re: #230 MandyManners

re: #189 Bloodnok

re: #183 MandyManners

Wasn't Patton initially written to show Patton in a bad light? (of course it had the opposite effect -or was rewritten). I thought I heard that somewhere.

I have no idea. The movie certainly showed his warts but, the upshot--to me, at least--was that his warts were just different perspectives of his strengths.

(Does that make sense?)

I like the part where he said " I don't care to learn about the Germans or the japanese except to know how much lead it takes to kill them"...

re: #199 mama winger

it is not that people have forgotten

a lot of them, mostly democrats, only pretended to care.

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re: #124 MandyManners

When was the last movie in which a high-ranking officer was portrayed in a positive light?

Wow -- you've stumped me for the moment. Perhaps a good trivia question . . . ?
Help us out, Lizards.

Patton.

Ah, great movie. Interesting man, as well, whose constitution backs up my point: aristocratic, highly intelligent and well-read, spoke several languages, etc. Victor Davis Hanson has an excellent (as usual) book in which he discusses Patton's qualities.

Was it true that he believed he was reincarnated? (I'd love to have time to dip into this but, I've The Kid to raise, and there are only a certain number of seconds in the day.)

'Night all.

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re: #126 cbinflux

Five threads for only one General? And he's noteworthy because..?

/channeling CZ.

Once again, you've made a fool of yourself...

I think you missed the Channeling CZ part (Chen Zen)
You know. The fool who comes over here sputtering nonsense while whoring his blog?

It seems very fitting that Gen Petraeus testified on the eve of the sixth anniversary of 9-11. It's surprising that Pelosi dd not try to change the date.
I've seen numerous comments over the past few years that we were living in 1938. This morning I saw a post (I believe from Israeli media) that we are in 1939.

Something big is coming.

Six years ago plus one day, I woke up late, turned on Fox News and began to make some coffee. "Oh, some building is burning in New York. Oh, the World Trade Center got hit by a plane just like the Empire State Building once did. When will this coffee finish brewi...wha? another plane? This is war. We're at war.

I don't remember if I ever had that cup of coffee.

re: #214 David IV of Georgia

re: #190 MandyManners

I like the frescoes of Mohammad (BBB - burn, baby, burn) in old European Catholic churches. Demons disemboweling him, slaking his thirst with molten mettle, and so on. A fitting tribute to a man who brought so much to the world.

Wow. I had no idea.

Maybe Europeans need to visit those churches again.

re: #175 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

I'll route this one through to some German anti-pc / libertarian blogs...

re: #24 Killgore Trout

Blinky speaks...
Pelosi on Petraeus Testimony: Continuing Failed Surge in Iraq Until at Least Next Summer Is Unacceptable

This is simply unacceptable.

Defeat at all costs!

I hope they keep it up. There is going to come a day when she will finally say what the Dems really mean and everyone will clearly, unmistakably understand that the Dems are rooting for the enemy.

re: #245 Jim in Virginia

It seems very fitting that Gen Petraeus testified on the eve of the sixth anniversary of 9-11. It's surprising that Pelosi dd not try to change the date.
I've seen numerous comments over the past few years that we were living in 1938. This morning I saw a post (I believe from Israeli media) that we are in 1939.

Something big is coming.

you're probably right...I hate the idea, but I hope it'll be enough to get the dems' off their stupid, narrowsighted, fat butts.

Up and to the office, where we sate all the morning, and I much troubled to think what the end of our great sluggishness will be, for we do nothing in this office like people able to carry on a warr. We must be put out, or other people put in.

A quote from today's edition of The Diary of Samuel Pepys, but easily mistaken for the thoughts of any member of the Democrat majority...

re: #231 paxnhymn
Settle down now. It was OBVIOUS sarcasm.

re: #245 Jim in Virginia

Yes, sir.

I am now watching Enterprise on the sci fi channel...Jolene blaylock is totally hot and has a ROCKIN body!

re: #232 towerclimber37

my oldest girl (110lbs soakin wet) joined the AF and is now a lliason hacker at Ft. Meade in the NSA! I'm aproud papa! She can't tell me much, but she tells me her job involves remoting into other folks PCs to make sure they're not stealing information...she said it takes her 30 minutes to get in the damn building everyday!

re: #226 cbinflux

re: #221 MandyManners

And wars are so seldom fought with cowbells.

Why not?

The news six years ago tonight: Chandra Levy and West Nile virus.
Six years ago tomorrow night- the only planes we heard, a mile from Reagan National Airport ,were the fighters patrolling over DC.
My 12 year old daughter and I were recalling tonight how we first heard the news.
She will not forget.

Sort of OT, but I was shocked by the discussion I found in the Amazon.com forums today.
The Problem(s) With Israel

Read it if you dare. Sickening.

re: #237 Dolphin

I'll set my alarm...just for you. Sleep easy. :)

Remembering 9/11/01.

New York City's finest.

re: #255 paxnhymn

re: #232 towerclimber37

my oldest girl (110lbs soakin wet) joined the AF and is now a lliason hacker at Ft. Meade in the NSA! I'm aproud papa! She can't tell me much, but she tells me her job involves remoting into other folks PCs to make sure they're not stealing information...she said it takes her 30 minutes to get in the damn building everyday!

whooo hooo...cyberwarrior... waaay cool!

re: #242 MandyManners