With a press release in Arabic.

I think I'm going to be ill.

The "Left" has forgotten.

If we as a nation are to be hung, political correctness may be the rope.

Never forget.

Islamofascists kill us -- so what do we do?
Honor and respect Islam. How wonderfully liberal.

Please, Let's Roll.

And on the top floor of the museum, which is located right across the river from where the World Trade Center once stood, on this September 11 the featured exhibit is Islamic Science Rediscovered.

With a press release in Arabic.

GOD HELP US

And they waive the black flag of jihad in our faces two days before 9-11....they were laughing at us Sunday....and we are told to respect that...this is no way to run a war.

It is like yesterday for me.

re: #1 Sharmuta

With a press release in Arabic.

I think I'm going to be ill.

From Charles' post:

And on the top floor of the museum, which is located right across the river from where the World Trade Center once stood, on this September 11 the featured exhibit is Islamic Science Rediscovered.

Complete with photos of peace-loving families viewing the exhibits.

I am ill.

373

too pissed to post

BBL

When you ask someone about the war, they avoid talking about it. They could care less. They are too wrapped up in their own little world. They have no idea what is going on in Afghanistan or Iraq.

Bottom line is if it doesn't affect them personally, they don't care. Unlike the Greatest Generation in WW2 where the war was realized at the home front and supported by all.

Thank you FDR and President Bush.

re: #11 BabbaZee

too pissed to post

BBL

Your voice is needed.

Never forget.

I will never forget.

And the insanity continues unabated!

The airplanes, filled with worthless unbelievers, somehow veered off-course and accidentally happened to trigger the events at the WTCs...

/not PC, that's self-lobotomization!

Nothing to see here. Move along. Return to your homes. Only an isolated incident, nothing more.

From the link:
What's up with the flying Mo exhibit photo?

re: #8 NoSubmission

It is like yesterday for me.

For me too. I'm cranky and lethargic today, and I know it's the remembrance of the horror and complete evil visited upon us that day that's doing it to me. Today, all I can think of is that I want to do the same thing I wanted to do on the actual day - go pick up my kid from school, bring her home and hug her for the rest of the day.

I hear people saying we don't need this war
I say there's some things worth fighting for
What about our freedom and this piece of ground?
We didn't get to keep 'em by backing down
They say we don't realize the mess we're getting in
Before you start preaching
Let me ask you this my friend

CHORUS 1
Have you forgotten how it felt that day
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away?
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside
Going through a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout Bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

They took all the footage off my T.V.
Said it's too disturbing for you and me
It'll just breed anger that's what the experts say
If it was up to me I'd show it every day
Some say this country's just out looking for a fight
After 9/11 man I'd have to say that's right

CHORUS 1
Have you forgotten how it felt that day
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away?
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors still inside
Going through a living hell
And you say we shouldn't worry 'bout Bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

I've been there with the soldiers
Who've gone away to war
And you can bet they remember
Just what they're fighting for

CHORUS 2
Have you forgotten all the people killed?
Some went down like heroes in that Pennsylvania field
Have you forgotten about our Pentagon?
All the loved ones that we lost
And those left to carry on
Don't you tell me not to worry about Bin Laden
Have you forgotten?

Have you forgotten?
Have you forgotten?

Darryl Worley/Wynn Varble, 2003

Remember

Remember

Rememeber Israel also...they fight daily

.......JERUSALEM — A Palestinian rocket exploded in an Israeli army base early Tuesday, wounding more than 40 soldiers as they slept in their tents and drawing calls for a major military operation against militants launching rockets from the Gaza Strip

. [Link: www.foxnews.com...]

It's 9/10 again...

I remember the week of 9/11, being in the finance industry, how weird it was to come to work for 4 straight days, with out the big board going off.

Very eerie.

We should take time today to call our family and remind them of how much we love them.

I wonder what it's going to take to wake people up. I used to think it would have to be another huge attack. But even that would be blamed on the Bush administration. In fact, the only anger I see in my little corner of the internet is toward the President, toward conservatives in general, even toward Christians. Hardly a week goes by that I don't have a discussion with someone, somewhere, explaining once again that it is the 'religion' of Islam that did these things and continues to do them. What do I get in response? The usual nonsense of 'What about violence that the Christians commit!?' The fact that there isn't any doesn't make any difference to them.

I've seen history rewritten before my eyes, in a short span of six years.

I am at a loss.

"I don't understand how the energy from an huge commercial jet and all that jet fuel could compromise steel and bring down a building. Bush must have rigged it with explosives".

--Rosie O'Donnell - Hillary Clinton supporter

I find I'm too overwhelmed with frustration at the surrender-lobby to make any coherent points.

I expect we'll see less video today from the actual attacks than we'll see airtime of UBLs new video.

/spit

My anger has never left. It only gets worse because of what is going on in our world. Thank goodness for LGF.

And that dung heap of a search engine (Google) naturally displays nothing special in their logo today.

Jerks.

Driving over the Bay Bridge this morning, we saw that the bright light (reserved for the Christmas holiday lighting) at the top of the Transamerica Pyramid was shining. Everyone in the car noticed, no one could figure out why. I said "it's 9/11." The woman in the front said "Oh, come on, that was six years ago."

I for one, will NEVER FORGET.

Does anyone know if there is a website for FDNY where one can leave messages for the firefighters in memory of their fallen brothers?

But science and technology continued to grow and flourish in the East from roughly 700 to 1700 CE.

Yeah- I'd label it as "roughly" too. Advancement under islam died with the falasifa [philosophers] since their ra'y was seen as zandaqa.

The events of 9/11/01? That's like calling Pearl Harbor an 'incident'. Most people really have forgotten what happened this day. How sad.

The Left hasn't forgotten. They're actively trying to rewrite the history. They want people to think that the war in Afghanistan and Iraq were optional - they were a war of choice, not a war of obligation and necessity. They want to cast the military in as poor light as possible - hamstringing future generations of politicians and military forces (see the Petraeus smears).

They actively encourage the enemies of the West by their incessant propagandizing that mirrors that which our enemies state. In due course, we've seen that our enemies in al Qaeda sound virtually identical to the leftists who demand the US withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan.

Every day, the Left, through its media mavens and propagandists, claims that the US is losing, has lost, or will lose if we continue to fight in Iraq, even as our gallant military defeats al Qaeda at every turn - in Iraq and Afghanistan. Al Qaeda jihadis self-identify as such, and our captured caches of weapons, intel, and materials shows that we're putting a serious hurt on the jihadis.

Still, the Left bleats on.

And those who support the mission and the troops are seen as the bad guys. We're the warmongers and militarists. We're called neocons and worse. Our belief in this just cause - to fight and defeat those who brought us harm not only on 9/11 but at the US Embassies in Africa, the USS Cole, and who are responsible for bombings around the world that have killed thousands - is called wrong, criminal, or worse.

History should not be kind to the Left. However, I fear that the Left will leave its mark, despite the facts.

Lowered my flag to half mast this am and my seven year old wanted to know why, So I told him. He knows that daddy was in the navy and asked if I was going to go and get the bad guys that did 9-11. Had to say no daddies retired but if I had the chance that yes I would go. Absolutely heartbreaking. Take a momment today hug your loved ones, give a thought for those in harms way, those looking through intercepts to stop the next attack, and our president.
NEVER FORGET!

But steel doesn't melt!

Rosie O'Doughnut

Anyway today I remember Michael A. Uliano, aka Artie Fishhills, died September 11, 2001; one of 2996.

So who sits on the board of this museum? What community leaders do fundraising? Do they even know about this? I think a few names and email addresses should be mentioned so folks with some power over this museum can be alerted. Then we can see if changes are made or if this is just stupidity or something more sinister. I'm going to start my own research today.

Islamic Science?!? What islamic science? Making TATP?

The "truthers" will seize upon the distorted shape as further proof that 9/11 was an "inside job."

Sad to contemplate that at this very moment, at universities throughout the country, thousands of liberal arts quack-a-demics are giving lectures to their young charges about how 9/11 was a conspiracy, a "Reichstag Fire," & that poor, victimized Arab Muslims had nothing whatsoever to do with it.

It's all received wisdom on the Left now.

On 9/11, as an American living in Canada, I remember that tune -- that song -- "To the Shores of Tripoli:"

From the Halls of Montezuma
To the Shores of Tripoli;
We fight our country's battles
On the land as on the sea;
First to fight for right and freedom
And to keep our honor clean;
We are proud to claim the title
of United States Marine

Semper Fidelis!

re: #25 Mo86

I wonder what it's going to take to wake people up. I used to think it would have to be another huge attack. But even that would be blamed on the Bush administration. In fact, the only anger I see in my little corner of the internet is toward the President, toward conservatives in general, even toward Christians. Hardly a week goes by that I don't have a discussion with someone, somewhere, explaining once again that it is the 'religion' of Islam that did these things and continues to do them. What do I get in response? The usual nonsense of 'What about violence that the Christians commit!?' The fact that there isn't any doesn't make any difference to them.

I've seen history rewritten before my eyes, in a short span of six years.

I am at a loss.

The next attack will so large...people won't have time to blame...there will be nothing but shock and mourning...six years to plan and set up.

In a sad reminder of how deeply America has succumbed to the plague of political correctness, to the point where we even shy away from offending our mortal enemies, the plaques in the exhibit make no mention of an attack. These were just “events.”

I get so pissed off at this crap!
It's like I just can't believe that we have been forced to come to this stage and I can't understand how people refuse to see the foolishness and danger of this plague of PC.

Bizzarro World.

re: #21 jcm

FWIW........My little contribution

re: #31 Sharmuta

But science and technology continued to grow and flourish in the East from roughly 700 to 1700 CE.

Yeah- I'd label it as "roughly" too. Advancement under islam died with the falasifa [philosophers] since their ra'y was seen as zandaqa.

CE? Bah! It's AD. More PC crap.

It will take a nuclear explosion followed by a broadcast on Al-Jazeera TV by Bin-Laden to wake up the sleeping American Tiger. I look forward to being a martyr in NYC on that day, while my children will hopefully be somewhere else. This future day will hopefully bring about the awakening by the liberal world that brings about the beginning of the end for Islam.

Western Science: Build two of the largest buildings in the world where thousands toil daily to support themselves and their families.

Islamic Science: Destroy the buildings and kill thousands of people.

I hope our future generations take time to laugh at us when they read that an Islamic display is purposely put across from 911 wreckage. And the troothers will be seen as bizarre and dellusional as the KKK does not to most Americans.

I've been watching a replay of the morning on msnbc, and remembering the horror.

re: #12 CommonSense

When you ask someone about the war, they avoid talking about it. They could care less. They are too wrapped up in their own little world. They have no idea what is going on in Afghanistan or Iraq.

Bottom line is if it doesn't affect them personally, they don't care. Unlike the Greatest Generation in WW2 where the war was realized at the home front and supported by all.

Thank you FDR and President Bush.

Great post. I wish George Will understood this.

What "forced" America to go to war in 2003 -- the "gathering danger" of weapons of mass destruction -- was fictitious. That is one reason this war will not be fought, at least not by Americans, to the bitter end. The end of the war will, however, be bitter for Americans, partly because the president's decision to visit Iraq without visiting its capital confirmed the flimsiness of the fallback rationale for the war -- the creation of a unified, pluralist Iraq.

To my dear sweet friend Robert who was murdered by savage Islamic maniacs.

I love you. God rest your good soul. I will never ever ever forget.

re: #29 LANMaster

And that dung heap of a search engine (Google) naturally displays nothing special in their logo today.

Jerks.

That's why I don't use Google.

Posted this last night, but the sentiment bears repeating especially on this momentous anniversary.

From the Impellitteri album System X:

United We Stand

It was 8:45 New York time when disaster filled the sky
Death struck and the towers rocked, then we began to die
All the steel came crashing down and rose in a cloud of smoke
The world watched on CNN and stood in a state of shock
You fool, I say to the eastern man, your evil ain't heaven sent
You better run and you better hide cause you pissed off America

We ain't gonna live in fear
We're men of God and American
United we stand hand in hand
And when I touch the stars
I feel alive in the land of pride
I pledge allegiance to the flag of America

This prick on a power trip unleashed the dogs of war
You say you're a man of God but you're just the devil's whore
You fool, I say to the eastern man, your evil ain't gonna win
You better run and you better hide cause you pissed off America

We ain't gonna live in fear
We're men of God and American
United we stand hand in hand
And when I touch the stars
I feel alive in the land of pride
I pledge allegiance to the flag of America

United we stand America

In a sad reminder of how deeply America has succumbed to the plague of political correctness, to the point where we even shy away from offending our mortal enemies, the plaques in the exhibit make no mention of an attack. These were just “events.”

That's still a half-step above 'tragedy', which makes it sound like the towers fell due to a stiff breeze or something.

re: #15 ROPMA

I will never forget.

Thank you for that. I had not seen this before. Posting a comment. We should all do that.

re: #49 NoSubmission

Your friend will be in my prayers today as will the others who perished at the hands of these savages.

re: #2 DesertSage

The "Left" has forgotten.

They never understood to begin with.
They live in denial world.

And on the top floor of the museum, which is located right across the river from where the World Trade Center once stood, on this September 11 the featured exhibit is Islamic Science Rediscovered.
With a press release in Arabic.

If one were to sit down and write a novel of the absurd, a more tragicomic scene than this would be hard to imagine.

But, on this day, it's still good to remember how lucky we are in the USA.
1-When outrageous things like this happen here, people get riled up and the the people responsible feel some heat. Unlike Europe.
2-Also unlike Europe, there are many in power in America who recognize the enemy for what they are. And want to kill them.
3-While the PC goons are strong on college campuses and in the MSM, elsewhere they are laughed at. In most Red States, thankfully it's still true that PC = WTF?

Of course the "West" descended into the "Dark Ages"...but the good news is that we eventually emerged. Something our "science pioneers" in traditionally muslim nations have yet to do.

Witness:
1) Women not allowed to seek education
2) Women treated as second-class citizens
3) Honor killings
4) Clitorectomies
5) Beheading as a source of honor
6) Lack of basic services (running water, electricity, sewer, etc.) in many areas particular to the Religion of Science Pioneers

Do I need to go on?

'...following the EVENTS of 9/11/2001...'

What a complete load of bovine fecal matter!

Let's get this straight, all you drug addled, reality challenged little trolls...IT WAS AN ATTACK ON THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA BY MUSLIM FANATICS! IT WASN'T AN 'EVENT' OR A 'DISASTER' OR A 'NEOCON CONSPIRACY'! IT WAS AN ACT OF WAR BY THOSE WHO WISH TO IMPOSE UPON US THEIR TWISTED THINKING AND TWISTED RELIGION!

Political correctness my ass! Not me!

God Bless the United States of America!

OK, that was easy. It's all on their website.

Horrible dhimmitude. Just horrible. Such an insult to the memories of the slaughtered innocents. How upsetting.

re: #49 NoSubmission

So young... Prayers for his family and friends.

On our local AM news station this morning the discussion centered on whether children in elementary school should learn about 9-11. Surprise surprise there were still people who thought it was too much for their little minds to get around, and for crying out loud, just let them be children.

If you ever wonder why love of country is waining, this is why. Teach the little rug rats about Heather and two moms but Heaven help us if love of country and pointing out that there are BAD GUYS in the world should ever come up.

We have lost. Get used to it.

(hmmm, that 2.5% flat tax is sounding better all the time....)

/sarc or not sarc?/

I always remember the photo of a man and a woman - he wearing a suit and she a dress - holding hands as they jumped to their death from the top floor of the WTC. I think it is one of the most poignant photos that I have ever seen. I will never forgot that and nor should anyone else.

re: #44 Ward Cleaver

re: #31 Sharmuta

But science and technology continued to grow and flourish in the East from roughly 700 to 1700 CE.

Yeah- I'd label it as "roughly" too. Advancement under islam died with the falasifa [philosophers] since their ra'y was seen as zandaqa.

CE? Bah! It's AD. More PC crap.

Hah, I get my revenge by reading it (even aloud) as Christian Era.

Go ahead and alert the thought police.

OldLineTexan

I remember.

I was working at a bakery in MN and heard about it on the kq morning show and at the time it was thought that it was a freak airline accident...I worked with a guy from Egypt and he lived in NY before he came to MN and he was as upset as I was. In contrast I also worked alongside illegal aliens (Mexico, Columbia) and they went about there business like it was a normal day, ready to send the next check home...

I was glad to see the addition of the twin towers in the header today.

Watching Petraeus/Crocker again this morning...

Can I ask a question? Who was the genius that decided this conference would be held a mere 2 or so months after the surge hit full strength?

Every point of imporovement cited by Petraeus/Crocker is met with some form of the retort "well yeah but the statistics are minimal and temporary and anyway how do we know whether they'll stick?"

?!?!?!

Um... We don't know they'll stick. What do these people think - that the subjects of our hopes and plans will be more likely to take the dangerous steps of reconciliation if we denigrate them, threaten to leave, and display nothing but contempt for these two men and the Iraq policy in general?

And what does "respect for the troops and military" consist in, exactly? Certainly something other than the phrase, I'd think.

Bah. These people disgust me. I am officially worried about our country.

Interesting. According to the museum's exhibit on Islamic science, a guy named Abbas Bin Firnas actually built the first flying machine! Strangely, the exhibit doesn't explain what he planned to crash into with it.

People don't understand how important Sunday was...Imagine Japanese and Nazi Germans marching in the streets of New York 12-7-1942.....Mohammad said to take the black flag of jihad into battle....bring the word of Allah to the world.....Sunday they were telling us...we are here...we hate you...soon we will kill you.....but...no one is hearing them.

re: #45 velsin

I would gladly go as well...but my cynical side tells me that there is no event so large as to wake up the likes of the liberal left. Nothing. The dust hadn't even settled from the South Tower and the troofers were already faulting/blaming/explaining that it was Bushco controlled demolition.

Test sirens are going off in my city right now (10am 2nd Tuesday of every month)

Very eery.

Maybe they should have waited a day.

Maybe not.

regarding the top floor exhibit....

interesting that there's nothing of significance since the 9th century

re: #66 OldLineTexan

re: #44 Ward Cleaver

re: #31 Sharmuta

But science and technology continued to grow and flourish in the East from roughly 700 to 1700 CE.

Yeah- I'd label it as "roughly" too. Advancement under islam died with the falasifa [philosophers] since their ra'y was seen as zandaqa.

CE? Bah! It's AD. More PC crap.

Hah, I get my revenge by reading it (even aloud) as Christian Era.

Go ahead and alert the thought police.

OldLineTexan

Right on!

/plus sign from your fellow texan

Hagel now calling the Iraq government dysfunctional. Now that's Irony. Take one to know one I guess.

"And on the top floor of the museum, which is located right across the river from where the World Trade Center once stood, on this September 11 the featured exhibit is Islamic Science Rediscovered.
With a press release in Arabic."

Only in America. There is absolutely no excuse for this seemingly blatant disrespect of an attack on America. And not even on American military, but American civilians by a blood thirsty bunch of total nut jobs, who's people, according to our own government, we're supposed to accept and embrace realizing that this was the work of only "a few".

Mr. Bush and others in government, are you actually paying any attention AT ALL to the agenda of these "people" (a term I use loosely)?

9/11 is already like the JFK assassination; the real truth has been deliberately obscured by the paranoia, conspiracy-mania, and political agendas of the Left.

JFK was killed by a left-wing communist kook. To cover its own ass, the Left had to rewrite the real history of the assassination, blaming some sinister, shadowy, massive right-wing cabal (FBI, CIA, Mafia, KKK, whatever).

Same with 9/11; the Left has labored tirelessly to recast the day as a day of deliberate murder pepetrated by right-wing American neo-fascists to expand & consolidate absolute dictatorial power. Funny how these "neo-fascists" lost 40 seats to the opposing party in the 2006 elections, with large provisions of the Patriot Act scuttled by left-wing, America-hating judes, while "truthers" appear on national TV every day to peddle their paranoia, and mainstream media wax indignant at every single action taken by the "neo-fascists" to curb Islamic terror.

Storagemanager, I was so sorry to hear about your mom. You are in my prayers.

If you had told me 6 years ago after those attacks, that by Sept. 11 2007, there wouldn't be another attack at all on American soil, I would have said you were crazy. I thought America would become like Israel that day. Maybe not the huge "spectaculars" but bus bombings, movie theater or cafe, yes.

It is asked are we safer today than we were back then. What a ridiculous question. We were not safe at all those days. We had our pants down back then, and our eyes closed. Of course we are safer today, if for no other reason that those uf us here are sounding the alarm daily.

Thank you Charles for this forum.

Thank you President Bush for standing up for freedom.

And thank you all here for all I have learned from you!

re: #12 CommonSense

Bottom line is if it doesn't affect them personally, they don't care. Unlike the Greatest Generation in WW2 where the war was realized at the home front and supported by all.

I'm afraid if the Greatest Generation's WWII was fought under the same conditions as today: Peace Marchers honored, the MSM constantly preaching defeatism, and Congressional Democrats leading the chants "USA! Defeat!", then we would all be driving Toyotas while "Seig Heil!"-ing at police checkpoints.

We had internal enemies and traitors in WWII, but they were a fraction of the total today.

re: #45 velsin

Even then, there is a significant portion of our country that believes in "peace" at any price.

War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature, and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the exertions of better men than himself.

John Stuart Mill

The cold steel against our throat that is political correctness will be our downfall. In our fever to appease and not offend our enemies, we forget that they have no such desire. Their goals are clear and their continued message is a resounding "Death to the kaffirs". We will not please them until they lift our bloody severed heads aloft and shout "allah ackbar."

They will not defeat us. Our squeamish lack of resolve will defeat us.

Never again! Let us be dangerous to our enemies. They should fear us.

Similar things happen at NIST (authors of 9/11 WTC report widely denied by Truthers). There are several pieces of WTC debris still on the campus grounds used during the study. Every year durring the tours for summer interns there is the question "Why is all that junk there?" And the tour leader has to quietly explain where it came from and probably have to resist the urge to slap them. Most of them are high school/early college so some ignorance of the world is expected.

re: #75 rab3

Hagel now calling the Iraq government dysfunctional. Now that's Irony. Take one to know one I guess.

I'm so glad that moron is retiring. If I ever get like him, I hope somebody shoots me.

Two quibbles:

1) It's not "we" that have forgotten. It's "some of us", and most of us here are not among those.

2) Those people that make up "some of us" haven't forgotten, they just don't think it's that big a deal. Two buildings toppled? Ho hum. Three thousand people died? Yawn. It only becomes a big deal when they are affected directly, such as losing a relative or a close friend in an attack. And even then, it'll still be America's fault. It always is.

re: #61 WriterMom

Horrible dhimmitude. Just horrible. Such an insult to the memories of the slaughtered innocents. How upsetting.

It is horrible - it frustrates me to no end! Sometimes I feel the need to just kick and punch a wall for the anger release!

#44 Ward Cleaver ~

CE? Bah! It's AD. More PC crap.

Like this sh*t - how does this happen? What TF is going on here?

I remember walking into a webdesign class on 9/11 at the university I graduated form and the teacher was talking about anchor points and dreamweaver, I told my friend in the class that on the news a plane had hit one of the world trade center towers. We were checking many news websites and the only one I got through on was CNN (of all the luck...?). The professor then laid into us about not paying attention, and I said,"Well, just to let you all know, a plane has reportedly hit the Two Towers in New York, and it just came up that another plane hit occurred. It doesn't seem like coincidence."

The class pretty much ended there and we all were reading about what was going on. Class then officially ended and I was walking to my next class, I was discussing with my friend how I was surprised they were still standing. Next class, we went online and after about another 10 minutes of servers being busy, we got onto...CNN...again. The towers had come down. I looked at my friend and said, "Well, that does it for me, I am going home."

Once home I turned on the TV and I was shocked how within 5 hours of the event it seemed as if ALL TV stations were given the talking memo to interview 'experts' on how these images need to no longer be shown. "the children are vulnerable..., too graphic, how would this effect people." It was as if they all 'Red Herringed' us and did a collective about face to take our attention from those who did this to us to analyzing the psychological aspects of seeing the images...then it slowly turned into, "What did we do to deserve this?".

I came away that day with 2 solid confirmations of what I had always believed to be true.

1. There will be a continuing clashes with Islam VS. Everyone.
2. The MSM has an evil agenda and if we knew the extent of how fallen and corrupt it really is I really wonder how 'tolerant' even the MSM blinded would be and it would be interesting to see the action that takes place against it.

As occasionally happens to me when on this site, I'm too sickened by what I'm reading to say anything of analytical value. The press release in Arabic is what really did it to me this time.

May the innocent souls of those murdered by Muslims on 9/11/2001 rest in peace. And may the living who choose to remember their murders be among those spared, when even more horrendous Muslim atrocities result from the self-indulgent ignorance of the living who have chosen to forget.

"December 7, 1941, an EVENT which will live in infamy."

re: #31 Sharmuta

But science and technology continued to grow and flourish in the East from roughly 700 to 1700 CE.
Yeah- I'd label it as "roughly" too. Advancement under islam died with the falasifa [philosophers] since their ra'y was seen as zandaqa.

I love it when chicks speak French.

Anyone notice the banner in the upper left today?

Thank you, Charles.

re: #78 Ward Cleaver

Storagemanager, I was so sorry to hear about your mom. You are in my prayers.

Thank you....

I hope the press release in Arabic statse that we will not be cowed nor surrender to you fascists. Better, It should promise to send these Jihadi b*stards to their virgins post-haste, seeing as how they desire them so much. NEVER Forget. NEVER Forgive. NEVER Yield.

63 xgaijin
That's my concern as well - this generation of children are being sheltered from the facts and film footage of 9/11 by the media and well meaing adults. The current generation of teenagers were not old enough to remember or in many cases, sheltered from the tv for the same reasons you mention. They are very vunerable to the 9/11 troofers conspiracies. When you see the film footage, as painful as it is, you can see the it was planes the hit the towers, not some crazy bombs etc.... My own teens/young adults have had to deal with kids who never saw the tv footages of the terrorist attacks, so it's not real to them and the draw of the 9/11 troofers is very strong in this age group. The media needs to show the 9/11 footages to prevent this next generation of Americans from forgetting the unforgettable.

re: #63 xgaijin

That's why we as America are ignorant to the rest of the world and history of it.

America has always taken the moral high ground though the citizens do not.

If only we could take some of these beams and drop them on Osama's head. I think it would be a fitting memorial. or even possibly fnding a small slender beam and placing his skull on top of it. do it right in the middle of mecca.

Personal message: Osama, we have not forgotten you, or forgiven you. One day, like all rabid dogs we will put you down.

re: #63 xgaijin

My son, 7, notices every single time a flag is lowered to half staff. he asks what it is for and he cares. He was 14 months old the day of the attacks. He won't know a pre-9/11 mentality.

He, like me, will always remember.

re: #80 mondoreb

re: #12 CommonSense

Bottom line is if it doesn't affect them personally, they don't care. Unlike the Greatest Generation in WW2 where the war was realized at the home front and supported by all.

I'm afraid if the Greatest Generation's WWII was fought under the same conditions as today: Peace Marchers honored, the MSM constantly preaching defeatism, and Congressional Democrats leading the chants "USA! Defeat!", then we would all be driving Toyotas while "Seig Heil!"-ing at police checkpoints.

We had internal enemies and traitors in WWII, but they were a fraction of the total today.

I don't know how people would respond to gas and food rationing today, but sadly, I suspect it wouldn't be favorably. My mom lived through it in WWII. She didn't have a car then, and rode the bus or streetcar (this was in Dallas) or caught rides with friends.

re: #49 NoSubmission

You have my heartfelt condolences. My son is 26 now, the age at which your friend died. To be cut down when life is just beginning is so tragic. You and your friend are in my prayers.

This was an EVENT?

Effin' moonbats sorely need an education: the high school prom is an "event".

Disgusting. A crappy day made worse.

"Quick, who designed the first flying apparatus? If you answered that it was the Wright brothers in the late 19th century, or even Leonardo DaVinci in the 1400s, you're a little off. The earliest known person to build and pilot a flying device was Abbas Bin Firnas in ninth-century Islamic Spain. So why have most of us never heard of him? Because the West has forgotten many of the great accomplishments by men and women of science who called the Islamic world home."

The irony of this statement and the museum for that matter is the facists running that religion today would undo everything anyone has created. And why is it assumed the West has forgotten? Could it be as simple as we never heard of the him because Christian and Muslims at the time weren't on speaking terms, I mean with the war and all?

I for one will never bow down to any murdering muslim savage, I pray they come for me here in the pastures of Texas, I can pile them so high on my property that it would block out the sunlight, and I would have plenty of help! We are well armed in the Republic of Texas! God Bless Our Troops that are killing those savages in high numbers in Iraq and Afghanistan!

re: #80 mondoreb

And FDR had the them rounded up and dealt with. Many i.e. german spy groups where charged with treason and shot. Japs where rounded up an put in camps.

This is pretty moving:
RidesAPaleHorse's Video Tribute to September 11

Damn fine job, RAPH.

I don't think another big attack will unite the country, I think it will divide the country.

The Left will say "You see! We aren't safer now than were before 9/11 due to the failed policies of George Bush and the Right! The only answer is to withdraw from Iraq, leave the Iraqis to their fate, abandon Israel and open discussions with Al Queda, et al, to find a way to live together!"

The Right will say "You see! We are at war! Our enemy is relentless, ruthless and cowardly, the only solution is to commit ourselves to a long, protracted war and pursue our enemy to the furthest reaches of the globe! Our freedom is at stake!"

Until we as a nation are on our knees, the public will no be willing to make meaningful sacrifices nor rally behind the cause of freedom.

i havent forgotten nor will i ever forget the attack on 9/11/01 or 12/7/41.
i also will never forget the reactions from all sides after 9/11 from then to now.
these things will shape the future of this world forever forward.

'Nam --

You said it all, brother.

re: #104 mondoreb

Thanks a million Mondo..........means a lot..

You cannot tell from appearances how things will go. Sometimes imagination makes things out far worse than they are; yet without imagination not much can be done. Those people who are imaginative see many more dangers than perhaps exist; certainly many more than will happen; but then they must also pray to be given that extra courage to carry this far-reaching imagination. But for everyone, surely, what we have gone through in this period - I am addressing myself to the School - surely from this period of ten months this is the lesson: never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never-in nothing, great or small, large or petty - never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy. We stood all alone a year ago, and to many countries it seemed that our account was closed, we were finished. All this tradition of ours, our songs, our School history, this part of the history of this country, were gone and finished and liquidated.

Winston Churchill
October 29, 1941
Harrow School

The Rage and the Pridehttp://babbazeesbrain.blogspot.com/2007/09/you-may -not-be-interested-in-holy-war_11.html

I just drove two of my kids to school and I did not see one single flag up on one single home except for mine. I live in a huge subdivision in Vegas. The drive is only about 7 minutes long one way but I passed a ton of houses. In my last neighborhood in Utah, if a house did not have a flag up on the anniversary of Sept 11 or some other day of remembrance, it stood out. Yea, as a collective nation, we've forgotten. I have to go volunteer at my Daughter's school today or I'd just lay down and cry. I'll never forget September 11th, and I'll never forget the sacrifices that have been made since trying to prevent another one.

re: #90 mondoreb

French, arabic- these days in france, what's the difference?

re: #83 bianchi_roadie

..... Every year durring the tours for summer interns there is the question "Why is all that junk there?" And the tour leader has to quietly explain where it came from and probably have to resist the urge to slap them. Most of them are high school/early college so some ignorance of the world is expected.

Well, not to make excuses, there could be another reason for the comments, and not out of disrespect.

Is the stuff marked as to what it is? If not, in all reality, it would look like a pile of "junk" to those unfamiliar with the campus until they were told what it was. Maybe they need to put a marker up and then the question would stop.

Just a thought.

This is a very sad day in our history. I still mourn for all that was lost.

Just when you think that the left cannot get any worse, I found on Huffpo this morning that it was either "the jews did it" to "it was a bad day, but....". They then go on to rant about how the GOP has "used" this tragedy to political purposes You know, the usual BS.

I know it is not right on this day to say this, but I really hate the crap that they spew.

"Using delicate mechanisms, Islamic master engineers developed automated devices ranging from practical items to clever inventions intended simply for amusement. "

Its sickening to realize just what clever inventions many of the "Islamic master engineers" are creating for their amusement today. Iran is next, we can't risk the clever engineers creating the next big invention for their amusement.

[Link: images.google.com...]

Those of us that are enlightened are way to sophisticated to tie Islam to the barbarity.
it is either a tiny minority that hijacked a peaceful religion or an inside job.
The Muslim street celebrations world wide including here when the Towers fell are just ignored.
Tolerating Dark Ages intolerance is inverted logic and not a virtue. It is actually moral cowardice

re: #104 mondoreb

Horsey does do a great job. I remember his Memorial Day video well.

re: #84 Ward Cleaver

re: #75 rab3

Hagel now calling the Iraq government dysfunctional. Now that's Irony. Take one to know one I guess.

I'm so glad that moron is retiring. If I ever get like him, I hope somebody shoots me.

I'll keep a round in the chamber for you, and one for me if I ever get that deranged. These people are disgusting. They are invested in our defeat just to gain seats in congress and retake the White House. They need to be frog marched out of their offices and put in jail.

Was the Orwellian "Crescent of Embrace" memorial in Shanksville, Pennsylvania, completed in time for today's ceremonies?

See, according to the PC crowd, Muslim fanatics were just embracing their enemies; it was all a great, big, crescent-shaped bear hug.

How about "Swastika of Embrace" to commemorate the Holocaust?

The Left has made this world sick, through & through.

Americans will not forget and will not forgive.
And will win.
It will take a long fight, but Freedom will win.

the subversives and the nazislamics can do whatevere they want, they will lose because they are WEAK.
weak like hitler, stalin, mao, castro, weak like the monsters of the killing fields, weak like the marxofascists who spread hate every day.
weak.

Freedom is strong.

LET'S ROLL !

On my way to work this morning, every news outlet was relentlessly repeating;
Tragic events
9-11 tragedy
Tragic building collapse
Tragic loss of life
It was not a tragedy, it was a (expletive deleted) terrorist attack by deranged Muslims against unarmed civilians who had no reason on earth to see it coming. As far as I am concerned our military response to this act has been way too restrained.

re: #105 Leonidas Hoplite

I don't think another big attack will unite the country, I think it will divide the country.

The Left will say "You see! We aren't safer now than were before 9/11 due to the failed policies of George Bush and the Right! The only answer is to withdraw from Iraq, leave the Iraqis to their fate, abandon Israel and open discussions with Al Queda, et al, to find a way to live together!"

The Right will say "You see! We are at war! Our enemy is relentless, ruthless and cowardly, the only solution is to commit ourselves to a long, protracted war and pursue our enemy to the furthest reaches of the globe! Our freedom is at stake!"

Until we as a nation are on our knees, the public will no be willing to make meaningful sacrifices nor rally behind the cause of freedom.

Matthew 12 25And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:

re: #120 Poitiers-Lepanto

Amen.

How I despise the politically correct. Let me count the ways. How CRUEL to have this phony exhibit on 9/11!

Note also in the museum's text the use of "BCE" instead of BC or AD. We are no longer allowed to use BC or AD because it is based on the lifespan of you know who. So it's Before Common Era for you Christianists out there, and don't you forget it!

9/11/2001
The memories of the sights and sounds of that black day 6 years ago never leave me. The pain that I felt then is always in the back of my mind, but when the anniversary of that day arrives my eyes fill with tears and I feel the anger once again rise hot within me and I want to strike out at those who would dare do such a thing, and those who would enable them.
I see bumper stickers :"If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention". Well, moonbat, I am outraged because I have been paying attention! I can't express myself eloquently as some are able, so I pity the fool who walks up to me and tells me that "we deserved it", or the troofer who crosses my path today.
I Am An American! I will Never Forget, nor forgive, nor submit!
For all those who died that day - may their memories be a blessing. ( except for the 19, of course)
Lizards, God Bless you all, and may God continue to Bless America.

re: #29 LANMaster

The main page of the Dogpile search engine remembers....

Realwest should you read this know that your father's sacrifice this day six years ago is not forgotten and that strong minded people continue the good fight to insure that what he found in himself that day will live to be found in others when God forbid they need it.

re: #120 Poitiers-Lepanto

yee olde "ditto".

/ When a "+" won't do the job

re: #69 Morganfrost

Interesting. According to the museum's exhibit on Islamic science, a
guy named Abbas Bin Firnas actually built the first flying machine!
Strangely, the exhibit doesn't explain what he planned to crash into
with it.

LOL. My thoughts exactly.

I really doubt that some dude built a working glider in 880 AD - especially not one that, gathered from the musuem's press release, is based on the movement of a bird's wings. Ornithropters do not work!

BTW, The Chinese claimed to have powered flight before the Wright Brothers & they were wrong, too.

Medical Inventions and Discoveries
Learn about the knowledge of the human body gleaned by exploration by ancient Islamic physicians of the neck anatomy of flight attendants with the use of box cutters

/ updated to show more recent examples of Islamic medical exploration

re: #120 Poitiers-Lepanto

You chanelling LaFallaci? I'm in.

America the Beautiful
Words by Katharine Lee Bates,
Melody by Samuel Ward

O beautiful for spacious skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the fruited plain!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea!

O beautiful for pilgrim feet
Whose stern impassioned stress
A thoroughfare of freedom beat
Across the wilderness!
America! America!
God mend thine every flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self-control,
Thy liberty in law!

O beautiful for heroes proved
In liberating strife.
Who more than self their country loved
And mercy more than life!
America! America!
May God thy gold refine
Till all success be nobleness
And every gain divine!

O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea!

O beautiful for halcyon skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the enameled plain!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
Till souls wax fair as earth and air
And music-hearted sea!

O beautiful for pilgrims feet,
Whose stem impassioned stress
A thoroughfare for freedom beat
Across the wilderness!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
Till paths be wrought through
wilds of thought
By pilgrim foot and knee!

O beautiful for glory-tale
Of liberating strife
When once and twice,
for man's avail
Men lavished precious life!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
Till selfish gain no longer stain
The banner of the free!

O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
Till nobler men keep once again
Thy whiter jubilee!

If it be your will
That I speak no more
And my voice be still
As it was before
I will speak no more
I shall abide until
I am spoken for
If it be your will
If it be your will
That a voice be true
From this broken hill
I will sing to you
From this broken hill
All your praises they shall ring
If it be your will
To let me sing
From this broken hill
All your praises they shall ring
If it be your will
To let me sing

If it be your will
If there is a choice
Let the rivers fill
Let the hills rejoice
Let your mercy spill
On all these burning hearts in hell
If it be your will
To make us well

And draw us near
And bind us tight
All your children here
In their rags of light
In our rags of light
All dressed to kill
And end this night
If it be your will

If it be your will.

re: #26 FrogMarch

There's a lot that she doesn't understand.

She does have a good handle on how to effectively employ a knife and fork at the buffet, though...so I'll give her that.

re: #124 Reluctant Democrat

How I despise the politically correct. Let me count the ways. How CRUEL to have this phony exhibit on 9/11!

Note also in the museum's text the use of "BCE" instead of BC or AD. We are no longer allowed to use BC or AD because it is based on the lifespan of you know who. So it's Before Common Era for you Christianists out there, and don't you forget it!

It's "Before (the) Christian Era" to me.

OldLineTexan

re: #98 Ward Cleaver

I don't know how people would respond to gas and food rationing today, but sadly, I suspect it wouldn't be favorably. My mom lived through it in WWII. She didn't have a car then, and rode the bus or streetcar (this was in Dallas) or caught rides with friends.

I agree.
Americans knew that they were in the fight of their lives. And everyone chipped in: Newspapers, magazine and all media. And I think if any political figure had acted like Harry Reid does today, he'd been lynched.

The American People will respond. Like Europe, it's some of the political class and "elites" who are clueless.

Senator "Lurch" Kerry speaks.

re: #96 lefty201

Dropping one on his head would be too humane. Think "rusty steel enema"...

Today is 11 Sep 07. Six years ago, close to 3000 people lost their lives due to attacks by a bunch of cowards. Since then, some of the looneys in this, and other countries, accuse GWB of purportrating the attacks even though al-qaeda has taken responsibility for them. In some cities, we have citizens blaming our troops for mass-murder even though the cowards that fire on our troops hide in mosques as well as hide behind women and children, knowingly full well that if they, the cowards, die from US gunfire, they take the lives of innocent women and children. Our leftists feed off of this like a shark feeds off its food supply, and it seems to never end.

The plaque that tells the tale of the WTC's destruction calls it an "event", which in all reality, was an attack i.e. an act of war, not a crime.

God Bless the USA and all those that have and are protecting it from the disease processes that want to destroy it, from both outside and inside.

NEVER FORGET!

re: #124 Reluctant Democrat

It acknowledges that the 'Common Era' began with Christ...

That was one point that I always brough up to my PC teachers who used that terminology...

re: #133 equable

[blink]

Coming to America soon

.........Police in the Belgian capital, Brussels, have arrested two far-right political leaders at a protest against the "Islamisation of Europe".
Police clashed with some of the 200 demonstrators and dozens more people were reported to have been arrested.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

re: #103 CommonSense

And FDR had the them rounded up and dealt with. Many i.e. german spy groups where charged with treason and shot. Japs where rounded up an put in camps.

The only people FDR's Political Heirs are worried about rounding up these days are the ones fighting the war and prosecuting the enemy.

This is obscene....political correctness

re: #142 storagemanager

watch this at Gates of Vienna they will have the news of it first

With a press release in Arabic.

It better be an apology.

re: #131 WriterMom

re: #120 Poitiers-Lepanto

You channelling Oriana Fallaci? I'm in.

Oriana today IS zillions of myriads of zillions of times stronger than she could be in the finite world.
She is "channeling" us (!), She is pushing us and driving us and keeping us alive and She Is the Bane of the nazislamics.
And so are the 3,000 of September Eleven.

If the nazislamics were not nihilists, they would understand that they should surrender NOW.

/P-L in full 9/11 mode.

re: #145 BabbaZee

re: #142 storagemanager

watch this at Gates of Vienna they will have the news of it first

Thank you.

Part of the World Trade Center is here.

Part of it is here.

VIVA FALLACI!

Never Forget!
Never Forgive!
Never Submit!

Vote Republican!

...how deeply America has succumbed to the plague of political correctness, to the point where we even shy away from offending our mortal enemies...

Nail on the head, Charles. Thank you for everything you have done with LGF.

The only word in there that gives me a double-take is: 'we'. I know you are speaking collectively of the actions of some of 'us' Americans, but I, and you, and so many people here on LGF, and plenty of others out there are not in that 'we', and don't intend to be.

For myself, if I'm going to use 'we', I'll use it to say We Will Never Forget, and We Will Never Give Up! That's the 'we' I'm a part of.

Those others who shy away from offending our mortal enemies are terribly misguided. It's too bad there are so many of them. I hope more of them eventually come around. But I will not allow them to characterize America in my thinking, not now, or ever.

For a quick look at September 11, 2001 in both words, pictures and video:
Special 911 Memorial Tribute
It says a lot about Lizard-land that people flock to LGF to post and keep memories alive.

Meanwhile, on the Left: Harry Reid, Cindy Sheehan and the Troofers plot their next move against "The Evil American War Machine".

"At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? -- Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant to step the Ocean and crush us at a blow? Never! -- All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest; with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge, in a trial of a thousand years.

At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us, it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide."

- Abraham Lincoln, 1838

Still true.

There's a misconception that America hasn't been attacked on US soil since 9/11... what about John Allen Muhammad's sniper spree in the Beltway in 2002, which he did for his religion in the name of Allah... or the various shootings or acts of road rage from California to New Jersey that Muslims have done in the name of Allah, resulting in many American deaths...what about the Muslim killer in the synagogue in Seattle, or the Muslim killer at the El Al counter in LAX...what about the seemingly numberless plots by various home-grown Islamic terror cells to blow up the Sears Tower, the Holland Tunnel, the local mall, etc. ?

Oh, a dirty bomb hasn't gone off yet, and we haven't had mass casualties on US soil since 9/11... but it is a factually incorrect to say "we haven't been attacked" since 9/11.

re: #108 Rides A Pale Horse

re: #104 mondoreb

Thanks a million Mondo..........means a lot..

You did all the work.
I meant it: it brings a tear to your eye.

re: #105 Leonidas Hoplite

I don't think another big attack will unite the country, I think it will divide the country.

The Left will say "You see! We aren't safer now than were before 9/11 due to the failed policies of George Bush and the Right! The only answer is to withdraw from Iraq, leave the Iraqis to their fate, abandon Israel and open discussions with Al Queda, et al, to find a way to live together!"

The Right will say "You see! We are at war! Our enemy is relentless, ruthless and cowardly, the only solution is to commit ourselves to a long, protracted war and pursue our enemy to the furthest reaches of the globe! Our freedom is at stake!"

Until we as a nation are on our knees, the public will no be willing to make meaningful sacrifices nor rally behind the cause of freedom.

I think it is pretty sad that anyone who supports fighting our enemies over surrendering becomes a "right-winger". Were Americans in World War II who supported fighting Germany and Japan all "right-wingers" therefore? I am not criticizing you at all- you are just expressing the common way people think about this.

re: #46 Darwin Akbar

Western Science: Build two of the largest buildings in the world where thousands toil daily to support themselves and their families.

Islamic Science: Destroy the buildings and kill thousands of people.

using the tools and technology of Western science

Fixed that for you

Isn't Islamic Science an oxymoron?

See that twisted beam?

It probably weight well over 2,000 pounds.

Imagine having to catch it in your arms if it were dropped on you from 200 feet.

It was worse, almost infinitely worse if you were in the towers at their collapse.

Islam

Delenda

Est.

re: #112 Sharmuta

French, arabic- these days in france, what's the difference?

Who would have ever thought in 1944, as Americans were liberating France, that what you said above has the ring of truth?

re: #133 equable

Very moving.
Leonard Cohen, yes ?

The moonbats want our enemies to love us, a state they can never achieve, as I hate them and I am not the enemy, in that I have not contemplated to commit mass murder.

I would much prefer that our enemies fear us, deep down fear, as their primitive culture can identify with fear, hence their use of an emotion they are familiar with, and the main weapon of Islamic rulers: fear.

Until they fear us, they cannot be influenced or reasoned with. Islam must be curbed, harassed, and radical versions persecuted to extinction.

Until we are ready to commit to this, we will always be fighting terrorism. The obvious weakness of the left is the fertile soil in which radical Islam and terrorism flourishes. IMHO.

re: #29 LANMaster

I've moved. This AM was the last straw. Go Dogpile.

At least they 'get it'.

re: #163 maddogg

The left has a spiritual vacuum into which the devil moves.

re: #117 Sharmuta

Horsey does do a great job. I remember his Memorial Day video well.

He does for a fact.
I can't speak about the Memorial Day piece, I hadn't even dreamed of being a Lizard then. But this one is a keeper.

And this thread is nuts.
I keep falling further and further behind.
I need to hire a clone.

re: #165 Ojoe

Amen

Stan rides in empty vessels

re: #121 GreenDroll

On my way to work this morning, every news outlet was relentlessly repeating;
Tragic events
9-11 tragedy
Tragic building collapse
Tragic loss of life
It was not a tragedy, it was a (expletive deleted) terrorist attack by deranged Muslims against unarmed civilians who had no reason on earth to see it coming. As far as I am concerned our military response to this act has been way too restrained.

I AGREE.
The damn MSM acts like it was an Act of God or a hurricane or tsunami.
Asshats.

re: #164 Cap'n DOC

re: #29 LANMaster

I've moved. This AM was the last straw. Go Dogpile.

At least they 'get it'.

ask.com = nothing
yahoo.com = nothing
google.com = nothing
mofos one and alll.

My city has increased it's lean to the left over the last decade, but never would I have thought that today, on the 6th anniversary of the attack on our citizens, a protest group would picket defense contractors around the city. Their reason for doing so... we are war profiteers. My laughter at their ignorance and blatant stupidity is silenced today. Their actions are as much without feeling as they are without thought.

Today, I am proud to be an American and proud to be serving are military.

# 162 - Yes.

I gave my six year old son Jacob a flag to take to school. He held it high at all times, even during the morning assembly.

He was the last child walking to class – holding that little flag as high as he could with his head hanging low.

Every day I thank the sweet, just Lord that such a wonderful, loving little soul could find his way through the universe to us and in our beloved country. Thank God for him, thank God for all of us. Thank God for The United States of America.

Thank you.
NEVER SURRENDER!

How did that steel beam get bent like that? Uri Gellar no doubt.

Correction #170

are=our

re: #171 Equable

thank you for that

re: #172 kansas

How did that steel beam get bent like that? Uri Gellar no doubt.

The Jews were responsible!

From the introduction to the exhibit:

So why have most of us never heard of him? Because the West has forgotten many of the great accomplishments by men and women of science who called the Islamic world home.

At least they have the intellectual honesty to, albeit in a very veiled way, admit that these accomplishments largely weren't by muslims but rather by others living in muslim ruled countries.

re: #170 Cpt. Disco

Si vis pacem para bellum

If you want peace prepare for war

The "Peace" demonstrators say, "Power to the peaceful"

They have it flipped 180 degrees

In the real world it is

Peace to the powerful.

By statute, today is Patriot Day. I’d have preferred that the President had dug a little deeper in history and resurrected an older, more suitable name: Remembrance Day. By focusing on remembrance, we would then be reminded that there is a great debt which is still unpaid. The scales are out of balance. We have 3000 blameless dead, and our nation’s security and safety remains violated, and we are unavenged. Our enemies still walk this earth.
Thus, for the innocent dead of 9/11/01:
With the spirits of the righteous give rest, O Savior, to the souls of Thy departed servants and keep them in the blessed life with Thee, O Lover of man. In the place of Thy rest, O Lord, where all Thy Saints repose give rest also to the souls of Thy servants for Thou alone art the Lover of man.
My prayer for our enemies, foreign and domestic, is of a different nature.

re: #138 cosmo

i love it

re: #91 cosmo

Anyone notice the banner in the upper left today?

Thank you, Charles.

I second that.

A year after 9/11, my choir participated in the worldwide 'Rolling Requiem', performing the Mozart 'Requiem' at precisely 8:46 AM local time when the first plane hit. I spent at least 3 hours the night before hand writing (with a calligraphy pen) the names of about 100 victims on 'heart badges' which the chorus and orchestra all wore during the performance to remember those who died. It was an incredible experience to see all the names and to think about what had happened that terrible morning. I still keep the name of Cindy Guan to remind me of that day - I will never forget!

Wikipedia (not a promotion of Wikipedia here) states that Abbas Ibn Firnas' hang glider only made one flight. Surprisingly it was *not* into a building.

Our daughter was born on September 10, 2001. She has some minor complications and had to spend her first few days in an incubator-like contraption in a special care nursery.

I took a good deal of video of her the next morning; one day old, with IV tubes and monitors attached to her arm and head. The only sound in the background of the videotape is coming from the nurses' radios, describing the attack as it occurred.

I will not forget. And neither will she.

re: #172 kansas

How did that steel beam get bent like that? Uri Gellar no doubt.

Geller, troll, Geller.

It got bent like that by your muslim friends, paid by the saudis and helped by the fiLth column of subversive commies who want to destroy America because they hate Freedom.
Which subversive commies ?
The Clintons who didn't fight alqaeda and allowed September Eleven to be prepared and, by forbidding the sharing of info between Intelligence services, allowed September Eleven to happen.

Go away, stupid.

I remember what happened 6 years ago:

I was 13 and attending Kennedy Middle School in Cupertino, CA. I was getting dressed, and then my Dad said "Oh my God". The first plane had hit the North Tower. I finished getting dressed and was just about to start making breakfast when my Mom said a second plane hit the South Tower. We turned on the big screen TV to CNN and watched everything. Later we saw the Pentagon damaged and the fourth plane in the field in Pennsylvania. Before I went to school that day, I saw both the towers collapse. There wasn't any class on that day, since everyone was focused on what happened in New York.

9/11 should have been a wake up call about Islamic terrorism, but still no one seems to get it. It took me 6 years to get it. This year I found this blog, and a few others, and I'm so glad I did. I'll never forget what happened, and I'll never again think of Islam the same way again.

All quiet in Dearborninstan, MI this morning.

I lowered our flag to half-staff before leaving for work.
Sadly, it was one of only a few I saw flying in our neighborhood this morning. Drove by the local mega-mosque (largest in North America)

Although the Detroit Free Press detailed dozens of community events planned for today in several communities, the Detroit News this morning listed only one local event - here in Dearborninstan at, oddly, the Byblos Banquet Center.

Negative feedback over this now has them playing catch-up with the other paper.

Apathy flourishes.....

re: #138 cosmo

re: #96 lefty201

Dropping one on his head would be too humane. Think "rusty steel enema"...

a la Vlad the Impailer?

I think I like it.

I was at Ground Zero three years ago, while in NYC for work. I'm Canadian, and I've heard it said that going there is different for non-US citizens. That may be true, but it was so surrealistic to be there. I felt tears come to my eyes.

Actually on this BC/AD stuff, I can perfectly accept BC being before Christ, although their calculations are off by roughly 46 years or so. But with Anno Domini being year of our lord, where does that leave the Jews? Certainly you could not find anger with those who chose not to be hypocritical in pronouncing it our lord when clearly to the Jews it is not?

Not forgotten.

And on the top floor of the museum, which is located right across the river from where the World Trade Center once stood, on this September 11 the featured exhibit is Islamic Science Rediscovered.

I can only imagine what that exhibit should have in it: Roadside bombs and other IEDs, torture and murder techniques, child abuse, and blaming everyone else on earth for their own problems.

re: #12 CommonSense

When you ask someone about the war, they avoid talking about it. They could care less. They are too wrapped up in their own little world. They have no idea what is going on in Afghanistan or Iraq.

Bottom line is if it doesn't affect them personally, they don't care. Unlike the Greatest Generation in WW2 where the war was realized at the home front and supported by all.

Thank you FDR and President Bush.

__________________________________________________ ______
The only people that served in the military in my family were my two uncles (WWII) and me (Marines-Vietnam). My sister's husband-no, her son-no, my niece's husband-no...nobody else. And they all are exactly how you described.

Let us not forget one of the heros of that day 6 years ago, Col "Rick" Rescorla, US Army (Ret), head of security at Morgan Stanley on 9/11/2001.

He fought for the British Army and ours; he honored his service at Ia Trang Valley, he saved at least 3000 employees of his firm on 9/11/2001, at the cost of his life.

There is a petition to the President to award Rick the Medal of Freedom. Once you read his story, you will see why you need to sign the petition and now.

Links to his life's story, his honor and courage, and to the petition here.

Please consider passing the word for this man who gave it al for freedom over decades and never blinked in the face of danger or evil.

On the good side, my son turns 18 today. The best of days, the worst of days.

#172 kansas

The steel was bent by the mental powers of the singing, psychic dolphin army of Baldwin IV, the nefarious Crusader Leper King, who now lives in outer space, the planet MuArae, to be exact. He ordered his dolphins to bend the beam as part of his never-ending campaign to make Moslems look bad, and re-establish the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem on the present site of Disneyland, in Southern California.

There, question answered! Now, say "Hi" to Toto for me as you dance off down the yellow brick road to the Oz-fairyland of your own imagining., where up is down, black is white and freedom is slavery.

(Actually, I think Poitiers-Lepanto-Mt. Gisors answered your question pretty well in post #183.)

#193 molly shark

Many happy returns to your son.

marwan's daughter (#184),

9/11 should have been a wake up call about Islamic terrorism, but still no one seems to get it. It took me 6 years to get it.

You "got" it.

Other do, and will.

re: #194 TalkinKamel

#172 kansas

The steel was bent by the mental powers of the singing, psychic dolphin army of Baldwin IV, the nefarious Crusader Leper King, who now lives in outer space, the planet MuArae, to be exact. He ordered his dolphins to bend the beam as part of his never-ending campaign to make Moslems look bad, and re-establish the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem on the present site of Disneyland, in Southern California.

Now, THAT's giving a lesson about multiculturalism to the trolls !

This is a way of putting a waving American flag on your screen, in the lower right hand corner.

Never forget 9/11. Never.

Note also in the museum's text the use of "BCE" instead of BC or AD. We are no longer allowed to use BC or AD because it is based on the lifespan of you know who.

My daughter brought some crap home from elementary school with this CE and BCE garbage on it a few years ago, and I literally had no idea what language she was speaking. I told her the school may use those designations, but the real world uses BC/AD. Also taught her what they mean and why the schools are spinning so furiously to try to change it.

We had a similar talk when her math homework on weights and measurements called for conversions to and from the Metric and "Customary" systems, with nary a mention of just whose "Customs" the "Customary" system was derived from. Again she learned that schools may want to erase the influence of White European Men from history, but the real world calls it the English system.

My #1 daughter got married in April 2001. We sent an invitation to the President and Mrs. Bush. We received a congratulatory note from the White House and the President and First Lady that was time-stamped September 11, 2001.

re: #198 NY Nana

This is a way of putting a waving American flag on your screen, in the lower right hand corner.

Never forget 9/11. Never.

Thank you for posting this. I now have the Flag on my screen and emailed it to friends.

Anyone else angry that the site where the towers stood is still a hole in the ground after 6 YEARS? I am.

The most anyone has done is bicker about what kind of tolerance museum we can put up.

It's appropriate, that today, the angels are crying.

Lord, make me an instrument of your peace,
Where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury, pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
where there is sadness, joy;
O God, grant that I may not so much seek to be consoled as to console;
to be understood as to understand;
to be loved as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive;
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned;
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.

How about a thread on Glen Becks perfect day series. He is promising some heavy sh*t tonight.

The whole thing has me pissed off.

re: #172 kansas

How did that steel beam get bent like that? Uri Gellar no doubt.

Rosie sat on it.

I don't know the quality of the research that went into the museum exhibit but the Arabs had some pretty amazing science 1000 years ago. And if you go back farther than that, someone from the Middle East must have invented the wheel. Five hundred years ago Islam went into the "dark ages" from which they never emerged. The current crop of terrorists creates nothing and has no intention of doing so. If it weren't for the AK-47, they would still be hacking at each other with swords!

re: #88 Last Mohican

May the innocent souls of those murdered by Muslims on 9/11/2001 rest in peace. And may the living who choose to remember their murders be among those spared, when even more horrendous Muslim atrocities result from the self-indulgent ignorance of the living who have chosen to forget.

Amen! And I add: May God be merciful and just to spare our beloved country for the few righteous within her; far be it from Him to destroy the just with the wicked!

Just saw this on NRO The Corner

"Favorite part of the 9/11 memorial service today I attended at a Catholic College in New York - a good Sister's opening remarks

"We'll have a Mass for Peace, and pray for our enemies - so called."

Well, if you can't call people who murder 3,000 innocent loved one "enemies" - I guess there is no one you can call an enemy.

Maybe she can speak at a rape-survivor group - "and let's pray for the criminals - so called."

Pathetic doesn't describe this.

Exibit of Islamic science from AD1300 onwards

Message from Burkabungholymon:

Yes- I was quite impressed as i "rediscovered islamic science."
A muchness of cleverness to behold. Bomb, bomb, boom boom.
Oh, sorry, please to not look at the collection of twisted metal from that Jewish created unfortunate event fitingly encamped on the lower floor of this provisionally "Western" showcase disturbingly named: "Liberty" Science Museum.
With the continued availability of paradise virgins in that heavenly bordello, praise be to allah, we shall maintain our peaceful jihad and reclaim the planet for allah.
Please sing along with me:

allah, allah,%u2028
we're happy to be dead%u2028
allah, allah%u2028
bomb bomb%u2028
boom boom

Message from Burkabungholymon:

Yes- I was quite impressed as i "rediscovered islamic science."
A muchness of cleverness to behold. Bomb, bomb, boom boom.
Oh, sorry, please to not look at the collection of twisted metal from that Jewish created unfortunate event fitingly encamped on the lower floor of this provisionally "Western" showcase disturbingly named: "Liberty" Science Museum.
With the continued availability of paradise virgins in that heavenly bordello, praise be to allah, we shall maintain our peaceful jihad and reclaim the planet for allah.
Please sing along with me:

allah, allah,
we're happy to be dead
allah, allah
bomb bomb
boom boom

Gordon (#204),

The Prayer of Saint Francis. Nice.

The islamic corallary is surah 2:190:

"Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and allah's religion reigns supreme."

don't know if anyone has posted this yet, but i thought it would be good to know....

linked from the drudgereport

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

If we keep thinking like this, we're all doomed.

please excuse the word artifacts on my first post.

re: #201 newsjunkie_ky

It was sent to me as I was watching almost the end of the Memorial services on local TV about 20 minutes ago...the reading of the names started after 8 AM...

It has been raining on and off...somehow the weather seems appropriate; gloomy....

That plaque ought to read:

This steel beam was recovered from the site of what once was the World Trade Center following the unprovoked acts of war perpetrated upon These United States by hate filled Arab adherents of the death cult known as Islam.

Lefty201,

The British take the cake. I quote John Derbyshire again:

It's all gone now, "dead as mutton," as English people used to say. Now there is nothing there but a flock of whimpering Eloi, giggling over their gadgets, whining for their handouts, crying for their mummies, playing at soldiering for reasons they can no longer understand, from lingering habit. Lower the corpse down slowly, shovel in the earth. England is dead.

This beautiful flag is displayed on my desktop. It's from Flag Day, 1942, and is at half-staff. Very fitting for today, in my opinion.

NEVER FORGET

re: #204 Gordon

Wassamatter Gordon? The batteries in your vibrator go dead?

The museum site is full of bullshit of omissions and commissions. For instance, it says:

Muslim explorers and traders traveled over vast distances from China to Central Africa. Visit a 40-foot model of a ship commanded by Chinese Admiral Zheng He in the 13th century.

While it is true, Zheng He was Muslim, he was a castrated one who served the Ming emperor. His voyages had little to do with the Muslim science, etc. and ultimately his ships were destroyed and his voyages halted by the Ming court.

The rest of it is the usual silliness about the greatness of the Islamic world, which curiously was only great between about 900 and 1300 A.D. (i.e., when their store of Dhimmi Christians and Jews ran out).

re: #94 seekeroftruth

it's not just children. i have an adult friend that i won't speak to anymore of the events because whenever i tried she'd just say, yeah, well, that was way back there and didn't affect us that much. and this is an otherwise very intelligent woman.

Poster from muslim day parade:

"Islam is your friend. How may we kill you today?"

At one point, a great Democratic patriot had this to say:

No matter how long it may take us to win through to absolute victory...

Who remembers who said this and what day it was?

In addition to the insult at the Liberty Science Center, don't forget the effort by Alec Rawls to http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2481586583 167459839&hl=en the "Crescent of Embrace" memorial planned for the Flt. 93 memorial in Shanksville, PA.

Crescent of Betrayal

re: #224 faraway

I think "Great Democrat" became extinct when Zell Miller retired. The rest of the Party is just a misnamed group of communists, socialists, anarchists, and ne'er-do-wells.

Yes let us all enter the Crescent of Embrace. Please all Jews and Christians to the purification embracement station at the rear of the monument. Place your valuables in the outside bin. Enter to enjoy a brief cost free refreshing shower.

re: #224 faraway

At one point, a great Democratic patriot had this to say:

No matter how long it may take us to win through to absolute victory...

Who remembers who said this and what day it was?

I violently disagree with most of FDR's policies.
However, he was gloriously, totally-not-in-a-2007-Democratic-Party-way RIGHT on the most important issue.

And that's why I never find quarrel with him being listed among the Top 3 American Presidents of the 20th Century.

re: #226 maddogg

re: #224 faraway

I think "Great Democrat" became extinct when Zell Miller retired. The rest of the Party is just a misnamed group of communists, socialists, anarchists, and ne'er-do-wells.

You got 'em pegged, all right.

Hey, wait a minute- That steel doesn't look Melted!
But if steel melts at some ridiculously high temperature, and the fires never got that hot and that's why we know it was Bush who personally planted steel-melting bombs all up and down the towers... Why isn't that steel melted?!

Actually the WTT never existed accept as a cgi creation green-screened onto the NY skyline. The Jewish overlords switched it off to usher the US into a tussle with the much beset muslim world.

Let us always be mindful of Islam's greatest contribution to mankind:

the civilizational black hole, or CBH for short.

re: #232 buzzsawmonkey

The Chinese invented gunpowder, but they never figured out how to create guns.

Gotta update you on that Buzz; recent archaeological finds in China prove that the ancient Chinese DID use gunpowder in primitive cannon. Can't say I'm surprised, the ancient Chinese were plenty savvy:)

My Chinese wife is quite savvy.

OT OT but on topic !

Massive Federation Forming to Confront Radical Islam

WASHINGTON DC, Sept. 11 /PRNewswire/ -- Today on the anniversary of the September 11th terror attacks, a massive federation to combat radical Islam has been officially declared. The Anti-Jihad Federation , as it is being called, is coming to be the name known for any and every organization involved in confronting the threat from Islamic Jihadists. Leading Federation organizers are stressing that the Anti-Jihad Federation is a non-entity, has no cd, such harter, and is not an organization or group, but is comprised of any and all organizations and groups resisting the Jihadist threat which faces the West. Although there are many organizations involved in confronting the Jihad, and each have varying views, beliefs, and methods, the Federation is being called a uniting movement with the hopes to add and aid cohesion and communication between organizations currently working to defeat Jihadi threats and supporters. It is being said by many that the establishment of the Federation demonstrates the importance of unity against such threats.
Leading elements within the Federation include many organizations which take part in grassroots activism to confront the threat from radical Islam and to protect the Western world for generations to come. There are many organizations around the globe who are actively involved in confronting Jihad; such organizations include JihadWatch, United American Committee, Vigilant Freedom Group, American Congress for Truth, America's Truth Forum, as well as hundreds of other organizations which are constantly growing as the powerful movement against radical Islam builds. Such organizations comprise an integral part of the growing Federation against the enemies of the Western world. The Federation also includes individuals spanning all ages, ethnicities, religions, and countries, who may not be affiliated with any organization yet who are united in opposing Jihadists.
Though not every organization may be right for everyone, everyone who is against Jihad can find the organization that is right for them through the Federation. Such research can be conducted through the website http://www.FederationMovement.com which lists various organizations involved in the Anti-Jihad Federation. This site also offers resources for individuals wishing to participate in protecting this generation, and the future from Islamic totalitarianism for generations to come.

What's all this worry about jihad. We're all going to die anyway.
Why not let apprentice death-practitioners hone their skills and earn valuable heavenly bordello hoochie-momma credits in the only way they can.
Life's a gift.
Be generous in the giving.

Why do we have a million anti-bullying programs in our schools?

And yet the Democrats sit up there and are BIG OBNOXIOUS BULLIES!

If you ever want to see one...that's what a bully looks like.

re: #65 zenren

Let's find that photo.

I heard one comment today about a call to Cantor Fitzgerald, and the caller asked what was going on up there, and the answer was "We're f------g dying." and the phone was slammed down. Repeated calls got no further response.

I would like to see a Broadway Play and then a movie that incorporates all those phone calls. I think they would be very telling.

Remember..these people weren't just murdered, they were tortured horrifically and murdered.

re: #238 buzzsawmonkey

re: #234 maddogg

Now that I did not know. Thanks.

Nonetheless, "primitive cannon" are a long way from even primitive matchlock, wheel-lock, or flintlock technology for pistols and muskets.

The Japanese, also no fools at adaptation, learned matchlock technology from the Portuguese before they closed Japan to foreigners, and in the intervening centuries between closing their borders and the opening of Japan by Commodore Perry, refined matchlock muskets as much as they could be refined.

Yes, and at that period, the Japanese made the finest firearms in the world.

Eastern history is most interesting.

Islamic science? My left butt cheek! The beauty of science is discovery and creation. What do these people know of such things? They exist to destroy all that is joyful and beautiful. I hate them forever for what they have done.

As to scientific advancement, they do seem to really want to take credit where it isn't due. Check any science related article on Wikipedia, and chances are you'll find it's been edited to include a section on Islamic contributions. Someone has been busy!

Here's a link, but I saw it first on the History Channel's special on Ancient Chinese Weapons of War.

And on the top floor of the museum, which is located right across the river from where the World Trade Center once stood, on this September 11 the featured exhibit is Islamic Science Rediscovered.

    Oh really?  [heading over to site ... ]

Quick, who designed the first flying apparatus? If you answered that it was the Wright brothers in the late 19th century, or even Leonardo DaVinci in the 1400s, you're a little off. The earliest known person to build and pilot a flying device was Abbas Bin Firnas in ninth-century Islamic Spain. So why have most of us never heard of him? Because the West has forgotten many of the great accomplishments by men and women of science who called the Islamic world home.

    And the veracity of this is ...

Claims to first piloted flight by date

Pre-19th century

Anonymous, Chang'an, China, according to the earliest reference the first human in the air with feathery wings — 19 [1]

Zhuge Liang, China, invented the Kongming lantern, which was the first hot air balloon, though not suitable for human transportation. — 2-3rd century.

Yuan Huangtou, Ye, China, first manned kite glide to take off from a tower — 559 [2]

Abbas Ibn Firnas (aka Armen Firman), al-Andalus, first parachute flight — 852

Abbas Ibn Firnas, (aka Armen Firman), al-Andalus, first hang glider, first artificial wings, and first scientific attempt at glide — 875

Eilmer of Malmesbury, England, a monk who flew a glider from an Abbey in the early 11th century

Hezarfen Ahmet Celebi, Istanbul, Turkey, first successful glider flight with artificial wings — 1630-1632 [3]

Lagari Hasan Çelebi, Turkey, first manned rocket aircraft — 1633

Pilâtre de Rozier, Paris, France, first trip by a human in a free-flying balloon (the Montgolfière). 9 km covered in 25 minutes. October 15, 1783

    Looks like Abbas is one of many claiming the prize, but not the first to even claim it.

Islamic Science Rediscovered

    Only shorter book in history: French War Heroes.

}:)     [Sorry Islamonkeys, gotta get a better grade of poop to be believed ... ]

The "islam Science Rediscovered" exhibit seems like the kind of dance Hitler might make if he was operating today: trying to appear hip and relevant to the MTV crowd while not so secretly stoking his ovens.

Is RageBoy™ included in the exhibit?

Methinks the Islamic contribution to science could be folded up and placed in Einstein's shirt pocket.

Current exhibit: islam Science Rediscovered
Rejected exhibit: islamic Dull Butter Knives For Sawing Off Jew's Heads Rediscoverd

re: #247 maddogg

Methinks the Islamic contribution to science could be folded up and placed in Einstein's shirt pocket.

I would actually bet it would all fit into the space of one of Einstein's synapses

I love that "Rediscovered" part of the exhibit's title.
Sounds very islamic queer-eye for the Western guy.

#197 Poitiers-Lepanto-Mt. Gisors

The Kamel is always happy to spread multiculturalism!

Oh, I believe the first flying machine was invented in the Islamic world.

It was invented by a dhimmi trying to get the hell out of there.

re: #59 DaMishMan

I agree wholeheartedly.

The sinking of the Titantic was a disaster.
The burning up of the Space Shuttle Columbia was a tragedy.

9/11 wasn't a "tragedy", not a "disaster".

9/11 was a SNEAK ATTACK.

You never heard Pear Harbor described as a "tragedy" or a "disaster".

Calling 9/11 a "tragedy" or "disaster" obscures, minimizes what happened that day.

I will call the retaliatory nuclear destruction of Mecca a "disaster", for Islam.

"The events of 9/11/2001"

Since the museum is dealing with an amoral version of history, is the Boston Massacre of 1770 now known as the "Boston Events"? And is the attack at Pearl Harbor known as the "Unfortunate maritime incidents of 12/7/1941"?

re: #232 buzzsawmonkey

OK, let's say that, as the "Islamic Science" exhibit would have it, that some sort of flying machine was designed by a Muslim 1000 years before the Wright Brothers.

The Muslims never built a practical airplane in all those thousand years. The Wright Brothers did.

The Muslims have no aerospace industry. The West does.

The Muslim air forces--built with purchased Western materiel--have been shellacked by the Israeli air force time and again.

The Chinese invented gunpowder, but they never figured out how to create guns. If, indeed, a Muslim--not "the Muslims"--did devise some sort of flying machine, it never benefited the Ummah in any way. So, other than providing an interesting factoid for the Dhimmi Edition of Trivial Pursuit, what was the value of the accomplishment?

Actually, the Arabs (not Muslims) were great astronomers, but that goes way back before old Mo started his death cult. What's interesting is that a lot of the named stars still have Arabic names, such as Mira and Betelgeuse. I'm surprised that all this actually survived Islam.

re: #253 arf

Oh, I believe the first flying machine was invented in the Islamic world.

It was invented by a dhimmi trying to get the hell out of there.

Or maybe they wanted to crash it into a convent somewhere.

re: #183 Poitiers-Lepanto

re: #172 kansas

How did that steel beam get bent like that? Uri Gellar no doubt.

Go away, stupid.

I think Kansas was joking. (Pretty funny, actually, particularly along with BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey's rejoinder).

I was thinking along the same lines: Here's yet another piece of evidence the trooffers will ignore to keep their paranoid visions propped up.

I work for a defense contractor. A pathetically politically correct one at that. Here's the corporate memo for today:

On this sixth anniversary of the attacks of 9/11, the 73,000 people of [PC Corporation] remember all who perished that day, including [PC Corp.] colleagues yada yada yada....

They — and their families and friends — are all in our thoughts and hearts.

We also wish to express our appreciation to our men and women in uniform. We cannot thank them enough for all that they do for us, and we dedicate ourselves to supporting them with the very best systems and services we can provide. [Shameless corporate plug]

And we thank our first responders, who rush into danger to protect us.

September 11, 2001, started like any other day. The events that followed only remind us how connected we really are to one another.

Huh? Anybody understand that last sentence? And how 'bout mentioning we were the victims of terrorist attacks by Islamists jihadi extremists? F'ing PC Corporation.

re: #43 Rides A Pale Horse

re: #21 jcm

FWIW........My little contribution

Great video. I've added it to my Youtube favorites, and have subscribed to your channel.