Doesn't he have a show on MSNBC..Countdown or something?

Ron Paul!

No Ron Paul option?

Where's the Ron Paul option?

oh...and "NO"

re: #4 WK

No Ron Paul option?

beat me by 5 seconds :p

With no Ron Paul option how can he win every Internet poll I ask?

re: #2 DesertSage

Doesn't he have a show on MSNBC..Countdown or something?

That's Mohammed Bin Olberrdouche

I don't think he's alive.

Little Winger is sure that he is.

So I split my vote to "Who knows?"

I suspect he is still alive, yes.

I suspect he;s alive too.

IF Saturday Night Live had any balls, they would do a skit called

"Weekend at Osama's"

If he is alive, I'm sure he's working at DNC headquarters.

Charles...you need a ...it doesn't matter cause the jihad will go on button.

please no more ron pauls

I personally believe that he is dead...a guy who, for 5-10 years couldn't get out from in front of the camera has only a handful in the last 4 years? And these last 2 videos not very convincing about his liveliness?

My theory: he's dead/captured. Bush knows this, but refused to turn him into a martyr. Far-fetched? Possibly, but there it is.

I hear he's going to give the keynote address at the Democrat National Convention next year.

Is Ron Paul still alive you also be an interesting poll.

re: #12 hous bin pharteen

IF Saturday Night Live had any balls, they would do a skit called

"Weekend at Osama's"

That would be hilarious and would make me watch snl again.

re: #8 Kaitian868

re: #2 DesertSage

Doesn't he have a show on MSNBC..Countdown or something?

That's Mohammed Bin Olberrdouche

Um...actually it's Queef Ubermunch

I brought this up on the dead thread, when the first video came out. Did you notice his hands? He looked liked he had just gotten a manicure. How does he keep his nails so clean, living in a cave?

Does voting make it so? :-)

Is Ron Paul alive?

Ron Paul is Osama...thats why we can't find him...he is in Wastington D.C.

Ron Pa-

Damnit, beat me to it.

Oh well. RON PAUL!

Osama and 72 raisins packed into one. Enjoy. Good night everyone.

Why do I have to check the 'show email' box and enter my email every time I open a new page?

He's probably in them thar hills in Pakistan awaiting the moment Mushareef is taken out and he is given the 'button' on a gold platter.

re: #21 TimeQuake

I brought this up on the dead thread, when the first video came out. Did you notice his hands? He looked liked he had just gotten a manicure. How does he keep his nails so clean, living in a cave?

If he is alive...he is not in a cave...he is in Iran.

Osama is a Muppet™

Alive (for now) in Pakistan.

He'd be making a lot more noise if he were alive. Fuckers dead.

BushCheneyRove killed him and skinned him, now Rove wears the Osama suit whenever they need to scare people into following their evil plans.
/moonbat

The "beard dyeing" thing makes me wonder.

Dyed to reflect his commitment to the Jihad?

Or Photoshopped to give an appearance that footage (of him in the same outfit from four years ago ) is new?

Also consider that with modern computer-driven voice duplication and/or synthesis, anybody could have spoken his monologue, and it would have tripped all but the most detailed computer analysis as the real McCoy.

/Am I the only one who thinks that Treknology may arrive well before the 23rd Century, if in fact it isn't already here in a lot of respects?

cheers

eon

re: #29 storagemanager

That would make sense, wouldn't it.

re: #29 storagemanager

he is in Iran.

That took the wind out of my sails.

re: #34 eon

The "beard dyeing" thing makes me wonder.

Dyed to reflect his commitment to the Jihad?

Or Photoshopped to give an appearance that footage (of him in the same outfit from four years ago ) is new?

Also consider that with modern computer-driven voice duplication and/or synthesis, anybody could have spoken his monologue, and it would have tripped all but the most detailed computer analysis as the real McCoy.

/Am I the only one who thinks that Treknology may arrive well before the 23rd Century, if in fact it isn't already here in a lot of respects?

cheers

eon

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

I think he's dead, but I am not certain. I waver.

However, I voted "no" because I mostly think he's dead. Even if absense of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absense.

And with that, I bid you all a very good evening.

re: #27 newsjunkie_ky

Because you didn't clean your plate.

He's a lefty sock puppet. At least he sounds like one.

re: #14 storagemanager

Charles...you need a ...it doesn't matter cause the jihad will go on button.

that was my reply too.

Proving his death brings the following items to the fore:

1) the US will eventually get their man
2) the Islamists will have an international martyr
3) Bin Laden wont be made the Caliphe.

re: #29 storagemanager

Honestly?

I've been certain since probably about 2003 or so that he's in Iran.

He's dead Jim.

ABC Nightly News says that sodding Saudi Arabia now looks the other way and piles of money are leaving bound for al Quaeda.

Shocka!

Ron Paul!

Who gives a fuck if binLardo is still alive? He's just one evil gerbil among millions who require stomping.

re: #44 DesertSage

LOL

re: #44 DesertSage

He's dead Jim.

He's definitely dead Jim.

I don't think it matters one way or another if Osama is dead or not. Either way he is a martyr to the rabid jihadis. The moonbat left will never see the correct side of the terrorism issue so he'll remain a weapon to attack Bush over. I am with Charles, I think he has been pushing up daisies for quite some time.

P.S. My fantasy football team has been named after "Islamic Rage Boy".

If he is alive, then our war on terror is pretty successful in that he has been so marginalized that this is the best he can do! Stupid ditties from a cave. If he's dead, then I find it equally satisfying that this is the best the terrorists can do. With incredible modern technology at their disposal, these sand apes can't do any better than this? How pathetic.

I think he's been dead since tora bora was vaporized, nothin' left but ashes on the breeze.

His ashes my friend, are blowin' in the wind
osama bin blowin' in the wind

"My sincere apologies to Dylan, or any of his fans out there."

If we had not let OBL escape tora bora and/or had continued to fight the real terror war in Afgahanistan then once Bin Laden was captured then all terror around the world would have ceased. Is that about right?

/moonbat off

Everyone -

I truly believe he is dead -- some time between October 2004 and now. The "Osama" who appeared in the recent videos does not even look like the same guy around the eyes and nose let alone the beard.
Best thing we can do is to spread the story that he died - preferably from a "work accident", "friendly fire", suicide, or a sexually transmitted disease. Let's screw with their heads for a change!

-S-

re: #43 Rain Patriot

re: #29 storagemanager

Honestly?

I've been certain since probably about 2003 or so that he's in Iran.

Waiting for a nuke...or a dirty bomb at least...Iran thinks it can keep its hands clean...like with Hiz'Allah.

I have an idea. If he is alive he can put out a video maybe
giving some current events such as football scores. To simplify
it he could just read the name of the winning team in English
so we could read his lips as well. It shouldn't be to difficult to
say Oregon Ducks in English. Wouldn't want to try anything to
hard like Appalachian State Mountaineers. Just a thought.

re: #44 DesertSage
Thats

"Dammit, He's dead Jim"

(I think Jim was a descendant of the Clinton's. To many people ended up dead around him for him not to be)

re: #29 storagemanager

My only question is this:
How long can the Sunni, glory-hungry Osama get along with the Shia, glory-hungry crackpot in Iran, and vice-versa. One of them would inevitably kill the other. I also think that Iran would taunt us with this fact if it were true.

re: #34 eon

The "beard dyeing" thing makes me wonder.

Dyed to reflect his commitment to the Jihad?

Or Photoshopped to give an appearance that footage (of him in the same outfit from four years ago ) is new?

Also consider that with modern computer-driven voice duplication and/or synthesis, anybody could have spoken his monologue, and it would have tripped all but the most detailed computer analysis as the real McCoy.

/Am I the only one who thinks that Treknology may arrive well before the 23rd Century, if in fact it isn't already here in a lot of respects?

cheers

eon

Its really just a pod person whose leaders have told him to continue as bin laden to cause mayhem and mischief.

OT:

Here's some potentially really good news - and some cool new technology

re: #52 jbolty

If we had not let OBL escape tora bora and/or had continued to fight the real terror war in Afgahanistan then once Bin Laden was captured then all terror around the world would have ceased. Is that about right?

/moonbat off

You got it nailed, man. Here, have another hit off this bong. Later, we'll experiment with LDS.

had to go with unsure.
i feel that he is dead, but untill i see his rotted corpse i just dont know.

Until someone presents an identifiable corpse I'm going to have to say yes.

re: #48 Piglet-U93

re: #44 DesertSage

He's dead Jim.

He's definitely dead Jim.

No he is in Camelot

re: #56 hous bin pharteen

re: #44 DesertSage
Thats

"Dammit, He's dead Jim"

(I think Jim was a descendant of the Clinton's. To many people ended up dead around him for him not to be)

And if you were security on an away team your saying to yourself, "what did I do?"

re: #57 ParanoidPyro

re: #29 storagemanager

My only question is this:
How long can the Sunni, glory-hungry Osama get along with the Shia, glory-hungry crackpot in Iran, and vice-versa. One of them would inevitably kill the other. I also think that Iran would taunt us with this fact if it were true.

Osama bin Ladin hates the royal family...he sees them as Kafir...he would use Iran to be rid of them...bet on it.

re: #56 hous bin pharteen

re: #44 DesertSage
Thats

"Dammit, He's dead Jim"

(I think Jim was a descendant of the Clinton's. To many people ended up dead around him for him not to be)

Well, he did have those boyish good looks...

/what am I saying? And me a good Trekker!

cheers

eon

re: #53 Dr. Shalit

Best thing we can do is to spread the story that he died - preferably from a "work accident", "friendly fire", suicide, or a sexually transmitted disease. Let's screw with their heads for a change!

-S-

What STDs can you get from a goat?

/if you have sex with a canary, you might catch 'chirpies'.

re: #61 trailortrash

had to go with unsure.
i feel that he is dead, but untill i see his rotted corpse i just dont know.

Jus' his head on this.

re: #60 American Soldier

re: #52 jbolty

You got it nailed, man. Here, have another hit off this bong. Later, we'll experiment with LDS.

You either mean LSD or mormons. LOL

BinLaden is alive in the hearts of America's Democrats.

Next time tie some fishing line to his hand and move it around out of camera. That will convince me.

Short answer: no.

Longer answer: First off, it doesn't really matter, if he is alive he isn't doing much from his self-imposed cave cell. Secondly; Osama isn't islamic jihad. His being killed or captured isn't going to end their "struggle" against us. We are better off that they've tried to keep him alive with these laughable video releases. Osama was praised for his fervor and colorful use of Arabic. These new vids with their liberal talking points only serve to debase him and his goal of being the new caliph. Pretending he's still alive to keep hold of their power and not making him a "martyr" is the most foolish thing his lieutenants ever did. What "believer" is going to idolize the "global warming" Osama enough to join the suicide murderer ranks?

Some of the Osama video that got cut.

re: #69 jbolty

re: #60 American Soldier

re: #52 jbolty

You got it nailed, man. Here, have another hit off this bong. Later, we'll experiment with LDS.

You either mean LSD or mormons. LOL

Everyone knows, Mormons don't smoke...

WEIROD! Voted befeore I logged in, and then had log in again to comment.

re: #64 jcm

...and don't forget Jim couldn't keep his hands out of the pants of any of his subordinates.

re: #70 jonturner

BinLaden is alive in the hearts of America's Democrats.

That's why I say...dead or alive...matters little...he is one Muslim...not Islam...the jihad will be fought with or without him.

i voted i don't know for two reasons 1 i really don't know and 2 alive or dead it doesn't matter islmo fascism is not one man

re: #69 jbolty

re: #60 American Soldier

re: #52 jbolty

You got it nailed, man. Here, have another hit off this bong. Later, we'll experiment with LDS.

You either mean LSD or mormons. LOL

We only drop LDS here at LFG.

re: #55 Mike in Georgia

esp in ann arbor ROFLMAO

re: #23 David IV of Georgia

I would be more interested in a poll of whether Ron Paul's brain was dead or alive/working.

re: #72 Geepers

I gave you a negative for making too much sense.
Can't you do a good rant instead? Much more entertaining and I don't have to think as much.

re: #78 Rain Patriot

re: #69 jbolty

re: #60 American Soldier

re: #52 jbolty

You got it nailed, man. Here, have another hit off this bong. Later, we'll experiment with LDS.

You either mean LSD or mormons. LOL

We only drop LDS here at LFG.

Look at all the pretty shades of green. Oh wow man.

I voted alive.

Now I'm thinking deceased.

I don't know what I think!

Does it really bug you when someone looks over your shoulder while you're on the computer, especially out in public? Wanna stop them?

My personal belief is that it would take a government with a pretty strong grip on the establishment in their own "back yard".
1) Muslim dictated government, not necessarily under sharia, but certainly not secular Muslim either.
2) unquestioned "high justice" in their own bailiwick. Death penalties to anyone and their families at whim. (at $25 mil somebody would have gotten "needy" before nowand witness protection could certainly hide from terrorist associates if not afraid of beyond terrorist capabilities, such as a government)

My belief is either Saudi Arabia or less likely Iran

I believe he's still alive as well.

I believe he's still hiding in the same area of Pakistan's NWFP that he has been in since the fall of Tora Bora. Probably within a few miles of the Chinese border.

I also believe that he has been extremely ill. For example, if that's really him in this latest video, then he has clearly had at least one stroke and at least one medical procedure that necessitated the removal of his beard.

===

This video was intended for us, and to be delivered on 9/11.

Somehow it got leaked, to US intel, before it ever hit the 500 or so al-Q friendly servers intended to host it. This caused all of the known jihadi servers to go into full lockdown 24 hours before the video was released. Followed by an early release of said video.

What's left of al-Q's leadership is likely currently in full purge mode, desperately looking for the mole inside their operations.

With their Talib brethren taking a massive beating in Afghanistan even as they are embroiled in a life or death struggle to hold on to what remains of their Pakistan based headquarters/sanctuary, al-Q is running out of options.

Losing a war of attrition has a way of refocusing ones efforts from obtaining actual victory, into a base struggle just for survival.

EXCERPTS
FROM,
R

re: #77 yochanan
Take a stand. You're too darned wishy-washy.
/

re: #84 cbinflux

The hell?

What, no Ron Paul button?

They're gonna spam you, Charles.

re: #83 Cattt

I voted alive.

Now I'm thinking deceased.

I don't know what I think!

The Islamic Republic of Iran is at war with us...as are most Koran Muslims...just think...it doesn't matter.

re: #55 Mike in Georgia

I have an idea. If he is alive he can put out a video maybe
giving some current events such as football scores.

Or he could give out his weekly picks.

Take the infidel 49ers from San Franciso, where wise man Noam Chomsky is worshiped, and the points over infidel Cardinals from Phoenix where I currently live in a bungalow ... D'oh!

re: #80 GeeWiz

re: #23 David IV of Georgia

I would be more interested in a poll of whether Ron Paul's brain was dead or alive/working.

Did anyone see Ron Paul on with O'Reilley the other night?

Dead - it took this long for Alec Baldwin to loose weight and for the plastic surgery to heal. Now, he has his dream job... playing the part of Bin Laden.

Cattt!

re: #83 Cattt

I'm too tired to think tonight.

So, I'm signing off before I get irrelevant.

Good-night, Lizards.

Always remember.

cheers

eon

re: #84 cbinflux

Haha, nevermind, I get it now. LOL

I think he's dead. I used to think the Bush administration knew it, but hadn't released the information. After all, no matter when they admit it, someone will question the timing. However, now that they've authenticated these videos (which I still think are fake), I wonder if they honestly believe he's alive and these are real. If they do, they're dumber than dirt.

He's in Dubuque living under the witness protection program, Skull and Bones couldn't risk have Katie flash him a little thigh in an interview and have him spill the beans.
/'nother theory.

until we produce his body...he is alive to the islamic world and therefore a threat to our security. don't stop hunting him.

re: #88 Rain Patriot

Not Safe for Planes

re: #84 cbinflux

Does it really bug you when someone looks over your shoulder while you're on the computer, especially out in public? Wanna stop them?

What do all those squiggly arabic crap letters mean.

My guess is that he is in Iran, he has not been doing any of the Sunni/Shia thing, which would not play well in down town Tehran. My guess is that the Revolutionary Guard had him as a guest and then raided his back accounts. They use his contacts to channel Jihadists into Iraq, keeping things tense and expensive. The beard would have to go, an Iranian spotting a six foot two Arab with a long beard would think about his future and 450 million.
Anyone notice how much like the Iranian news braodcasts (see live leak) are to this second tape.

So alive, and a guest of the IRIRG.

I believe he's alive based on the photographs that I've seen in the past. The nose is the telling point for me. It is not a bone but cartilage which continues to grow over time. The most recent picture shows a nose longer than previous pictures. As a professional photographer I know that when you are trying to make someone look better than they actually do, sharp focus is your enemy. Every attempt was made, between color balance shift to the red side, and lousy resolution to make him look healthy.
If attempts have to be made to make him look healthy, than I suspect he is quite a bit less than robust. A stroke is a possibility as well as Marfans syndrome. I only saw only one hand moving a paper in the latest video.
He's still gonna be stans' bitch, though, and real soon.

I say dead the real Osama would never reference a Jew turned athiest. Nor would a man living in a cave be concerned about the housing market.

re: #101 Ay, Caramba

re: #84 cbinflux

Does it really bug you when someone looks over your shoulder while you're on the computer, especially out in public? Wanna stop them?

What do all those squiggly arabic crap letters mean.

Either it's Allah Ackbar or in some translations it's roughly Ay, Caramba!

OT
Hollywood again proving they are not worthy.
[Link: www.wnd.com...]

I'd look in the basement of the U.N. building.

He's alive and running for congress as a democrat in Michigan. & he happens to be leading in the polls.

re: #97 doppelganglander
Im with you. They know it. But to tell it might change the dynamics in the war. (please don't ask me to explain that)

re: #103 EC Marm

He's worth more to them alive, and they get to keep an ace in the hole -- his martyrdom. So... he's dead for sure.

re: #67 American Soldier

American Soldier -

"AIDS?", if NOT from a goat - what about from one of his "mates" - Gay relationships were not exactly unknown among the Taliban. Knowledge of his "condition" hasn't helped Arafat's reputation in the Muslim world now has it?

-S-

re: #67 American Soldier

/if you have sex with a canary, you might catch 'chirpies'.

And it's untweetable!

re: #112 Shaky Louie

That was a little shaky.

This is fucking bullshit. Of course he's alive. That little weasel is living large, surfing the net and posting his crap videos on YouTube making us all look like fools. We need to start carpet bombing the entire Kohistan until we get that bastard. This is just more proof that George Wahhabi Bush will do nothing to upset his Saudi masters!

re: #84 cbinflux

Does it really bug you when someone looks over your shoulder while you're on the computer, especially out in public? Wanna stop them?

Does anybody know what that writing says?

I read he died sitting on the can, like Elvis.

re: #113 cbinflux

re: #112 Shaky Louie

That was a little shaky.

So was the canary.

When Iran springs the so called Mahdi...he will trump bin Laden...it doesn't matter...Look at jihad watch...Robert Spencer is pointing to the fact...that in the tape

..."And now it is our turn," bin Laden says.
This is curious, especially in light of bin Laden's dyed beard, and its connotations in Islamic tradition of preparing for jihad. In saying that it is "our turn," is he looking to dodge accusations that he sends others to die while he hides in caves? Or is he somehow anticipating his own "martyrdom?"

Is this how they explain his death?...who knows?...he doesn't matter anymore...the jihad has outgrown him...Iran took up the slack.

If he was really alive, then why has As-Sahab produced several videos over the last few years with fake Bin Laden look-alikes. Why not use the real Bin Laden the whole time?

Have to get some sleep. Later, all.

Osama is alive and well, and boinking Hillary. How else can you explain this?

re: #114 Geepers

This is fucking bullshit. Of course he's alive. That little weasel is living large, surfing the net and posting his crap videos on YouTube making us all look like fools. We need to start carpet bombing the entire Kohistan until we get that bastard. This is just more proof that George Wahhabi Bush will do nothing to upset his Saudi masters!

Sarq...fixed it for you.

I think he is dead. The last vid from a couple years ago showed him pretty haggard looking. He isn't seen in a video for a few years, then he releases a bunch of vids at 1 time? I think his kidney problems caught up to him a couple years ago. Some folks have noticed that there appear to be video 'freezes' at the points where he talks about modern events (the times when he talks about the US mortgage problem, the election of sarkosy, etc.) If those are true freezes, then that means someone else does the voice over. Would it be possible to take past vids and splice in the modern parts? Someone who knows this stuff should review the past vids and see if any of that footage is used in the current vids. That's my 2 cents.

Off topic, but Air Force Wife has been asking about when a few lizards will be hanging out in Las Vegas. I know the dates (I'm 1 of the folks going) if she reads this, please show up in the lounge tonight AFW. thanks

re: #111 Dr. Shalit

Didn't know that goats were carriers, but apes are.

Women usually receive HIV from men.

Men usually receive HIV from men.

Who zoomed the Fish? An innocent bump at a car swarm? Fwench diplomacy? ..?

re: #114 Geepers

Much better!
Twice as entertaining!

#3 Kilgore Trout

"Ron Paul!"

Yea no kidding, Charles! Where's the option for Ron Paul in this one?
Hunnnh? :-)

Would proof of his death energize the anti-war crowd? Give them another excuse to pull the troops out now? I don't think the islamist want us to pull out, as long as we're there we're evil invaders.

re: #117 American Soldier
LOL!

re: #123 chicagodudewhotrades

Can't make it, part of my Tailhook plea agreement. Sorry.

/AF don't can't do tailhooks.

Its not what I think its what logic should tell anyone.
6 years and nothing but crappy audios and a few fake videos.
Give me a break. This guy's presense should be one of the most valuable assets to F'ing Queda, and we get phony crap videos.
He is DEAD.
Perhaps one of his 26 sons dubs his audio but Usama BIN LADIN is a rotting foul corpse right now.
Try to engage your brain for a second. You can buy a DVD video camera on the Pakistan border for $400 bucks. Try to evaluate the crap you are being sold.

re: #114 Geepers

We need to start carpet bombing the entire Kohistan until we get that bastard.

I'd be glad to take care of that matter.

re: #129 buzzsawmonkey

We must never let Charlye know...

re: #109 southernborn

It would certainly change the domestic politics of the war. With OBL at large, the Dems can focus on him -- "Oh, Iraq is a distraction, Bush can't catch Osama, yada yada yada." If he's dead or captured, what can they complain about? They can't exactly say the WoT is over -- obviously it will continue whether Osama has assumed room temperature or not.

It does bother me that the Bush administration might know he's dead yet put out disinformation, authenticating the video and stating he's alive. It would confirm everything the BDS sufferers believe about Bushitlerburton, secrecy, Dick Cheney, etc. I'm not against disinformation campaigns in the WoT, I just think the Bush administration isn't smart enough or together enough to pull one off.

Sorry this is so long.

re: #129 buzzsawmonkey

re: #124 cbinflux

Women usually receive HIV from men.

Men usually receive HIV from men.

See? See? The radical feminists were right; men are the problem!

I blame that racy song that Col. Potter popularized.

storagemanager (#122),

See #81. ;-)

re: #103 EC Marm

I also think he is alive, and he is known to have kidney disease that allegedly requires dialysis. I am sure that he would be in a safe haven in Pakistan ,where he gets the very best of medical care.

Thinking about his still living as we watched so much locally on TV today, commemorating the cataclysm 6 years ago? Infuriating, just infuriating.

She's a Charlye Grrl, but she ain't no angel.

re: #17 DesertSage

I hear he's going to give the keynote address at the Democrat National Convention next year.

After Osama rallies the crowd -- George Clooney, Rosie O'Donnell, Sean Penn, and Barbra Streisand will roll out on stage with a medly of "rage against the machine" tunes.

re: #137 Geepers

storagemanager (#122),

See #81. ;-)

lol

re: #121 Allah al Fubar

Shrillary thought it was one of his wives, and realized it was him.

re: #121 Allah al Fubar

That picture is from her speech at the Police Academy.

So what's the over/under dead pool on Adam Gahdhan's survival rate?

His usefulness as an adviser has just about run its course, and he's gotta be at the top of the list of suspected CIA moles within al-Q.

LESS
THAN
ZERO,
R

If Osama got onto a plane with you and you loudly protested, would CAIR sue?

/then again I would ask them to let the *gag reflex* "gentleman" sit beside me—$25,000,000 is $25,000,000 Dead or Alive.

I think he's still alive. Jihadi "culture" places too much value on martyrdom. They will trumpet it as loud as they can when he dies.

re: #146 Render

He's probably been rendered already.

re: #114 Geepers
Is Plan-R a go?

re: #146 Render

So what's the over/under dead pool on Adam Gahdhan's survival rate

?

I didn't know he was a member of the Clinton cabinet...

re: #146 Render

So what's the over/under dead pool on Adam Gahdhan's survival rate?

His usefulness as an adviser has just about run its course, and he's gotta be at the top of the list of suspected CIA moles within al-Q.
LESS
THAN
ZERO,
R

Pipe down. OPSEC.

re: #146 Render

So what's the over/under dead pool on Adam Gahdhan's survival rate?

His usefulness as an adviser has just about run its course, and he's gotta be at the top of the list of suspected CIA moles within al-Q.

Israel hits Syria...and not a word from Iran...that is bad...they should be jumping and pointing fingers...they are up to something.

re: #146 Render

Render put me down for $20 on that action

Later. Really.

re: #144 ploome hineni

That would answer the clean nails.

A Saudi will never lift anything heavier than their wallet.

A great hole in the dessert? HMMM

'IAF and ground troops targeted Iranian weapons in Syria'

The Israel Air Force jets that allegedly infiltrated Syrian airspace early last Thursday apparently bombed an Iranian arms shipment that was being transferred to Hizbullah, CNN reported Tuesday.

A graphic showing the Syrian foreign minister's version of events.
Photo: Rendering by Jonathan Beck

A ground operation may also have been part of the foray, according to the network. Neither Jerusalem nor Damascus have confirmed the report. But Damascus has denied the presence of any Israeli ground forces on its territory.

CNN said the operation involved ground forces and that the aerial strike left "a great hole in the desert." Although it did not name a specific source, the network cited "US government officials." The jets have been identified by the Turkish authorities as IAF F15Is, Israel's long-range bomber, after fuel tanks were found in Turkish territory.

More - [Link: www.jpost.com...]

re: #146 Render

So what's the over/under dead pool on Adam Gahdhan's survival rate?

His usefulness as an adviser has just about run its course, and he's gotta be at the top of the list of suspected CIA moles within al-Q.

We haven't been attacked in six years, coincidence? I don't think so.

/someone's helping us read their mail

He's dead. In the pit, at the bottom. Lucibello chews his ears off, keeps going. Nothing is left. It all grows back and Lucibello starts again.

Forever.

re: #143 buzzsawmonkey

re: #136 cbinflux

I blame that racy song that Col. Potter popularized.

Which song? And which Col. Potter? The one on the MASH show or the one who managed Elvis?

Was it the "bow legged women" song?

OT Religion of 'give peace a chance' strikes again

Let's all be respectful now, the Holy Month of Bombadan is about to begin.

re: #154 storagemanager

Israel hits Syria...and not a word from Iran...that is bad...they should be jumping and pointing fingers...they are up to something.

Israel hits what appears to be Iranian weapons in Syria . . . that left a great hole in the dessert! Explosives are not my area of chemical expertise but I can't think of too many that would leave a "great hole" in a dessert.

re: #143 buzzsawmonkey

M*A*S*H = Harry Potter
Elvis = Tom Parker, right?

re: #159 galloping granny

Maybe they were going to hit Syria...and move to Iran...something happened and they had to drop the tanks...just saying.

re: #166 ploome hineni

No. And I think 9-11-07 will pass quietly.

Render,

Intersting analysis, but I still think he's taking a dirt nap.

I happen to think that OBL sleeps with fishes. One must ask themself just who gains from his death? My take, only GWB has something to gain from his death, in order to shut the dems' up. I don't see GWB using this knowledge to promote his political agenda the way the dem's do. No matter what you may think of the man, he has principles and values the dem's lack.

With today's video and audio abilities, we witness Nat King Cole performing a duet with his daughter several years ago, long after his death. Is it so hard to believe that AQ found a body double and provided a voice-over with OBL's recorded voice? I think not.

One must consider the effect the surfacing of these videos on our political dialogue. We are a divided nation and AQ is using OBL's videos as a wedge. The dem's took the bait and ran with it. Vacuous souls the lot of them. To use a poker expression, I call their bluff.

re: #163 greenmiler

OT Religion of 'give peace a chance' strikes again

WTF? Was he a deranged Kos Kid?

He may not be dead, but it's not life as we know it, Jim.

re: #162 commander_vimes

We have a winner!

re: #165 galloping granny

I heard they render their new radar that was bought from russia useless

re: #167 cbinflux

re: #143 buzzsawmonkey

M*A*S*H = Harry Potter
Elvis = Tom Parker, right?

Sherman T Potter!

/ in my best Klinger voice

Jack D. Ripper (#150),

I was going to make a joke about Plan 9, but I think I'll go with The Day the Earth Stood Still:

Your choice is simple. Join us and live in peace, or pursue your present course and face obliteration. We shall be waiting for your answer. The decision rests with you.

I am hoping that someone got a Tivo of Charles Krauthammer's segment on Britt Hume's show tonight, it was a magnificent summary of how good we have done too date, and why.

re: #138 NY Nana

re: #103 EC Marm

I also think he is alive, and he is known to have kidney disease that allegedly requires dialysis. I am sure that he would be in a safe haven in Pakistan ,where he gets the very best of medical care.

Thinking about his still living as we watched so much locally on TV today, commemorating the cataclysm 6 years ago? Infuriating, just infuriating.

That kidney dialysis schtick is a rumour that has been going around for a decade or so. That is an awfully long time for a kidney patient to be hanging around on dialysis.

re: #167 cbinflux

re: #143 buzzsawmonkey

M*A*S*H = Harry Sherman T. Potter
Elvis = Tom Parker, right?

re: #178 Geepers

Jack D. Ripper (#150),

I was going to make a joke about Plan 9, but I think I'll go with The Day the Earth Stood Still:

Your choice is simple. Join us and live in peace, or pursue your present course and face obliteration. We shall be waiting for your answer. The decision rests with you.

it's the Borg.

#154 storagemanager

Israel hits Syria...and not a word from Iran...that is bad...they should be jumping and pointing fingers...they are up to something

Im pretty sure they are up to something. But I believe they are not ready and General Patrias has made a more than strong case for hitting them. I believe that is why they are quiet.

re: #177 commander_vimes

Good catch!

re: #175 cbinflux

re: #162 commander_vimes

We have a winner!

Oh, I love to go swimmin with bow-legg'ed womin and swim between their legs

/ repeat

Dead.

I'm in the minority, he's alive.

But why wouldn't Bush share the news that OBL is dead and thus remove the Dems' primary argument that "we need to get him"?

re: #190 vxbush

Bush won't say, because he's not sure, IMHO.

re: #168 storagemanager

re: #159 galloping granny

Maybe they were going to hit Syria...and move to Iran...something happened and they had to drop the tanks...just saying.

Go read that whole article I posted up above Storage. Apparently there is much more to this than just the magically appearing storage tanks. There is a map with the article - and note that it is on the Jerusalem Post website. I think they did indeed hit something from Iran that happened to be in Syria. Something substantial, judging by that "great hole" business. Or they hit it with a really really big bomb.

re: #185 southernborn

#154 storagemanager

Israel hits Syria...and not a word from Iran...that is bad...they should be jumping and pointing fingers...they are up to something

Im pretty sure they are up to something. But I believe they are not ready and General Patrias has made a more than strong case for hitting them. I believe that is why they are quiet.

They will not make the mistake Saddam did...they are playing up this Mahdi thing in Iran...they will hit first...if we wait to long...they watched Iraq.

re: #132 NortonPete

NP -

So true about the camera, AND the stuff looks like it was shot on VHS-C!

-S-

I try not to fall into the same projecting, wish-fulfillment mindset that our Muslim/conspiracy friends so easily do. You know what I mean...the Jews and the American government are behind 9-11 and any other unfortunate event that happens anywhere in the world despite the actual video taped confessions of the terrorists as they are standing with the actual explosive devices to be used in the attack. They refuse to accept the evidence before them, twisting and squirming for any way to explain it away so that they can continue in their aggressive behavior against their enemy. The lengths they go to hold on to their world-view drifts into the ridiculous as reason is tossed out the window.

With that being said, we too would be wise not to fall into the same trap. We have shown we are vigilant at catching faux-media whenever it pops up because our skepticism is on high alert. But there comes a danger point where we might look so deeply for the faux-isms that we cross into the wish-fulfillment projection that we accuse our philosophical opposites of. That tipping point, when you fall away from reason into the fantastic, is usually just as the explanation drifts into speculative advanced technology and the deviousness of the enemy that knows no bounds...(e.g. Karl Rove and all the lunatic theories that have been piled on him.)

I have seen a video of OBL that looks like a duck and sounds like a duck. Most likely, it's probably a duck and no matter how much I hope it was otherwise, we should all still be ready to duck.

He's definitely not pining for the fjords. He is no more. He's pushing up the daisies in the tribal areas of Pakistan. He's singing with the great choir invisible. This is an ex-terrorist.

Please hold for an important message from John Kerry Cindy Sheehan is expected to weigh in on her take on the Petreus hearings. Special commentary will be from Ted Kennedy (although we did have a tough time prying him from the seafood buffet.

Join me, Katie Couric live at 9pm.

re: #103 EC Marm

I doubt Osama currently lives the sedentary lifestyle and eats the fatty, cholesterol rich foods that leads to hypertension and/or atherosclerosis which most commonly strokes. Considering his circumstances, he looked healthy in that video to me; i mean, how anyone could look well-nourished after 6 years of playing hide and go seek with the American military in rugged, mountainous territory. On the other hand, its possible that he had a stroke secondary to atrial fib or maybe he's had a tad too much KFC in Pakistan.

re: #191 Ojoe

Okay, then we don't know; but it only benefits Al Q if he's still thought of as alive.

ploome (#170),

Thanks for letting me know. I turned that thing off two seconds after Charles gave us the option.

I read an article that Syria purchase a new radar with weapons from Russia. Somehow they jam it and made it useless. It said Iran purchase some of these too. No wonder they are quiet

I voted "Alive". Would be thrilled if proven wrong.

re: #192 galloping granny

re: #168 storagemanager

re: #159 galloping granny

Maybe they were going to hit Syria...and move to Iran...something happened and they had to drop the tanks...just saying.

Go read that whole article I posted up above Storage. Apparently there is much more to this than just the magically appearing storage tanks. There is a map with the article - and note that it is on the Jerusalem Post website. I think they did indeed hit something from Iran that happened to be in Syria. Something substantial, judging by that "great hole" business. Or they hit it with a really really big bomb.

You are right...that was a major attack.

Hiya plOYOmie!

re: #190 vxbush

Because he'd be enshrined in the martyr hall of fame at the DNC headquarters.

#194 Storagemanager

re: #185 southernborn

#154 storagemanager

Israel hits Syria...and not a word from Iran...that is bad...they should be jumping and pointing fingers...they are up to something

Im pretty sure they are up to something. But I believe they are not ready and General Patrias has made a more than strong case for hitting them. I believe that is why they are quiet.

They will not make the mistake Saddam did...they are playing up this Mahdi thing in Iran...they will hit first...if we wait to long...they watched Iraq.

If they hit, they will hit Israel. Unless Israel is getting ready now and they just might be. I don't believe Israel is going to wait around til they get the nod from our government.

I voted yes, that I think OBL is still alive, but honestly I think it would be pretty easy to impersonate this guy. I mean, he's like Saddam Hussein--any sinister looking Arab (please all you lurking moonbats, I'm not saying ALL Arabs are sinister looking) who wears his facial hair and dresses about the same could pass for either one of these guys. They say Saddam had body doubles all over Iraq--dime a dozen.

Every time I see OBL it reminds of the Bullwinkle and Rocky show where Bullwinkle finds the "Ruby Yacht of Omar Khayyam" and is abducted and taken to the exceedingly remote kingdom of ...can't recall the funny name they gave the place. Anyway OBL looks like the Pasha of this Mohammedan kingdom. This guy is just a life-sized caricature of a goofy Islamonutcase.

When our first child was in diapers my father always used to say that she had made a little Osama when she filled her diaper in a stinky way.

BTW, did everyone see this picture on Atlas Shrugs? Very fitting for today.

re: #172 GeeWiz

"GW" -

Love the comment about Nat/Natalie "Unforgettable" - Nat was probably shot on 16 or 35 mm filmstock and looks alive. This "Osama" looks like a refugee from a video game.

-S-

The Syrians got em on radar, and the IAF fired 4 Shrikes at the radar and knocked em out.

The hole in the ground?
Didn't we sell them MOABs?

re: #138 NY Nana
There are also portable dialysis packs. The fellow who invented the Segway worked on it.

storagemanager (#154),

Israel hits Syria...and not a word from Iran...that is bad...they should be jumping and pointing fingers...they are up to something

What could they say? "Hey! Stop targeting our illegal arms shipments?"

Here is the video of what was said re bin liner being alive, sodding Saudi funding, etc. on the ABC Nightly News...there is the requisite commercial first, of course.

Gak--can someone point me to granny's link?

Iranian minister in Moscow for tough Bushehr Syria talks

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

re: #165 galloping granny

re: #154 storagemanager

Israel hits Syria...and not a word from Iran...that is bad...they should be jumping and pointing fingers...they are up to something.

Israel hits what appears to be Iranian weapons in Syria . . . that left a great hole in the dessert! Explosives are not my area of chemical expertise but I can't think of too many that would leave a "great hole" in a dessert.

My kids leave a great hole in their dessert...Oh, you mean the kind with one "s." Never mind...

re: #214 vxbush

Gak--can someone point me to granny's link?

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

re: #206 southernborn

#194 Storagemanager

re: #185 southernborn

#154 storagemanager

Israel hits Syria...and not a word from Iran...that is bad...they should be jumping and pointing fingers...they are up to something

Im pretty sure they are up to something. But I believe they are not ready and General Patrias has made a more than strong case for hitting them. I believe that is why they are quiet.

They will not make the mistake Saddam did...they are playing up this Mahdi thing in Iran...they will hit first...if we wait to long...they watched Iraq.

If they hit, they will hit Israel. Unless Israel is getting ready now and they just might be. I don't believe Israel is going to wait around til they get the nod from our government.

read the words of Mohammad...Baghdad will be destroyed before the coming of the Mahdi.

For you Duncann Hunter fans.
He was on Mark Levin last night.

You can listen to the web to the archive at the bottom of the page.

[Link: www.marklevinshow.com...]

re: #217 galloping granny

Thanks, dear! Reading now...

re: #216 dentate

re: #165 galloping granny

re: #154 storagemanager

Israel hits Syria...and not a word from Iran...that is bad...they should be jumping and pointing fingers...they are up to something.

Israel hits what appears to be Iranian weapons in Syria . . . that left a great hole in the dessert! Explosives are not my area of chemical expertise but I can't think of too many that would leave a "great hole" in a dessert.

My kids leave a great hole in their dessert...Oh, you mean the kind with one "s." Never mind...

ROFLMAO! What a ditz I am! And I DO know better. That will teach me to type with one hand.

re: #216 dentate
My post is the one at the top.

OT

Breaking news - terror bust in Frederick, Wisconsin - news at 10pm on Kare11 in Minneapolis.

#216 Dentate
re: #165 galloping granny

re: #154 storagemanager

Israel hits Syria...and not a word from Iran...that is bad...they should be jumping and pointing fingers...they are up to something.

Israel hits what appears to be Iranian weapons in Syria . . . that left a great hole in the dessert! Explosives are not my area of chemical expertise but I can't think of too many that would leave a "great hole" in a dessert.
My kids leave a great hole in their dessert...Oh, you mean the kind with one "s." Never mind...

LMAO

re: #198 idaniboy

Marfan syndrome is an autosomal dominant genetic disorder of the connective tissue characterized by disproportionately long limbs, long thin fingers, a relatively tall stature, and a predisposition to cardiovascular abnormalities, specifically those affecting the heart valves and aorta. The disease may also affect numerous other structures and organs — including the lungs, eyes, dural sac surrounding the spinal cord, and hard palate. It is named after Antoine Marfan, the French pediatrician who first described it in 1899.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
/Slate.com back in Nov. 2001 was the first to notice this. Latest pics show eyes a mess. My guess is he's about 5'11 with severe curvature of the spine about now. Probably dressing in burka accompanied by a couple of husky, cross dressing Taliban.

galloping granny (#192),

Something substantial, judging by that "great hole" business. Or they hit it with a really really big bomb.

I wouldn't put too much emphasis on the "great hole" business until "great" can be quantified.

re: #223 jwbaumann

OT

Breaking news - terror bust in Frederick, Wisconsin - news at 10pm on Kare11 in Minneapolis.

What?!?

re: #159 galloping granny

A great hole in the dessert? HMMM

Granny, should I be changing my name to "Dessert" Sage?

Realwest
You heard it here first

re: #223 jwbaumann

Nothing on the news wires yet.

re: #159 galloping granny

I have several problems with that story.

The graphic, as shown, has the Israeli fighter-bombers dropping their fuel tanks after hitting the target. Not entirely unheard of, but definitely not standard operating procedure. Underbelly tanks are usually dropped prior to combat, even ground strikes.

I believe the F-15I uses the same conformal FASTPAC belly tanks that the US uses, as well as up to three of the fairly standard bomb shaped 600 gallon belly drop tanks.

Those belly tanks are also standard on every single US made, and most western made aircraft in use today. Including Turkey's own F-16's. Turkey has bought military hardware from Israel, which could have included Israeli made drop tanks.

===

If it's real, hurrahs and congratulations are in order.

If it's real, then we might have some explaining to do, as it would appear that the convoy in question transited Iraq at some point.

If it's real, Syria and Iran will cease commenting about it momentarily.

PRE
EMPTIER,
R

#225 EC Marm

re: #198 idaniboy

Marfan syndrome is an autosomal dominant genetic disorder of the connective tissue characterized by disproportionately long limbs, long thin fingers, a relatively tall stature, and a predisposition to cardiovascular abnormalities, specifically those affecting the heart valves and aorta. The disease may also affect numerous other structures and organs — including the lungs, eyes, dural sac surrounding the spinal cord, and hard palate. It is named after Antoine Marfan, the French pediatrician who first described it in 1899.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
/Slate.com back in Nov. 2001 was the first to notice this. Latest pics show eyes a mess. My guess is he's about 5'11 with severe curvature of the spine about now. Probably dressing in burka accompanied by a couple of husky, cross dressing Taliban.

I bet he could play the hell out of a piano

re: #228 DesertSage

re: #159 galloping granny

A great hole in the dessert? HMMM

Granny, should I be changing my name to "Dessert" Sage?

You'd be the Sticky Bomb!

re: #226 Geepers

The important fact is they bitch slaped the Iranians and Syrians and are all back home tossing back some cold ones.

Dammit, he's Jim, dead.

re: #225 EC Marm

re: #198 idaniboy

Marfan syndrome is an autosomal dominant genetic disorder of the connective tissue characterized by disproportionately long limbs, long thin fingers, a relatively tall stature, and a predisposition to cardiovascular abnormalities, specifically those affecting the heart valves and aorta. The disease may also affect numerous other structures and organs — including the lungs, eyes, dural sac surrounding the spinal cord, and hard palate. It is named after Antoine Marfan, the French pediatrician who first described it in 1899.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
/Slate.com back in Nov. 2001 was the first to notice this. Latest pics show eyes a mess. My guess is he's about 5'11 with severe curvature of the spine about now. Probably dressing in burka accompanied by a couple of husky, cross dressing Taliban.

See that bit about abnormalities of the heart valves and aorta? Tora Bora sits at 13000 feet - that is more than 2 miles above sea level. NO way he would be hiking around the mountains of Tora Bora with heart abnormalities of this kind.

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad thinks he can bring back the 12th Imam...Mohammad said Baghdad would be destroyed before the coming of the Mahdi...what must Mahmoud do to bring him back?

I voted no. When some stupid looking wimp from the Middle East starts talking about my taxes are too high and converting to the Muslimhood is going to save me money, somehow I'm not worried about being killed anymore.

Perhaps Bin Laden is a RINO. Right about taxes, wrong on everything else.

re: #234 hous bin pharteen

And if they did drop the tanks where they did, it would almost certainly because they WANTED to leave an incontrovertible calling card, without making a politically incorrect announcement.

re: #237 storagemanager

Excuse my ignorance of mid-east history, but was Baghdad called Baghdad back in Mo's day?

Terrorist Arrested In Wisconsin

The Police Chief in Frederic says his department has arrested a wanted terrorist.

Chief R.J. Severude says one of his officers stopped a van about 11:30 Tuesday morning in Polk County. He says when the driver was checked, the Minnesota driver's license came up with felony warrants.

Severude says the driver was Hassan Mohammed Abdiaziz
Abdiaziz has fugitive warrants for drug trafficking, money laundering and financing terrorist attacks inside and outside the country.

re: #190 vxbush

But why wouldn't Bush share the news that OBL is dead and thus remove the Dems' primary argument that "we need to get him"?

It would give the dems a reason to abandon the WOT since the culprit has been killed/captured. The dems see this WOT as not a war but an investigation into the capture of the perp (OBL). GWB has to avoid any opening to the dems.

#237 Storagemanager

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad thinks he can bring back the 12th Imam...Mohammad said Baghdad would be destroyed before the coming of the Mahdi...what must Mahmoud do to bring him back?

No matter what he says, there are other turbins involved that want to live. he can't do what he wants to do

re: #241 Killgore Trout

Terrorist Arrested In Wisconsin

The Police Chief in Frederic says his department has arrested a wanted terrorist.

Chief R.J. Severude says one of his officers stopped a van about 11:30 Tuesday morning in Polk County. He says when the driver was checked, the Minnesota driver's license came up with felony warrants.

Severude says the driver was Hassan Mohammed Abdiaziz
Abdiaziz has fugitive warrants for drug trafficking, money laundering and financing terrorist attacks inside and outside the country.

Thanks Killgore. I was scouring the news sites, coming up empty.

re: #240 hous bin pharteen

baghdad was once called Babylon wasn't it?

Did he ever have a sleep over with Arafat?

MoveOn continues the slander

Lowlife scum.

Marfans syndrome:

It is associated with incomplete penetrance, therefore not all persons carrying the mutation develop the disease.

And I thought it was when the 'rocket of love' exploded all over the launch pad.
/ '70s show

re: #244 mama winger

Looks like another one picked up from a random traffic stop. We're getting lucky picking these guys up.

re: #231 Render

re: #159 galloping granny

I have several problems with that story.

The graphic, as shown, has the Israeli fighter-bombers dropping their fuel tanks after hitting the target. Not entirely unheard of, but definitely not standard operating procedure. Underbelly tanks are usually dropped prior to combat, even ground strikes.

I believe the F-15I uses the same conformal FASTPAC belly tanks that the US uses, as well as up to three of the fairly standard bomb shaped 600 gallon belly drop tanks.

Those belly tanks are also standard on every single US made, and most western made aircraft in use today. Including Turkey's own F-16's. Turkey has bought military hardware from Israel, which could have included Israeli made drop tanks.

===

If it's real, hurrahs and congratulations are in order.

If it's real, then we might have some explaining to do, as it would appear that the convoy in question transited Iraq at some point.

If it's real, Syria and Iran will cease commenting about it momentarily.

PRE
EMPTIER,
R

Render, I have a few problems with it too - starting with the fact that Syria is just now starting to scream about it. And the reporter was our old "friend" Christiane Amanpour. You have to take anything she says with a fairly large helping of salt.

There was a picture of those spare fuel tanks online last week. Pretty broken up, so I did not see anything that said "fuel tank" as opposed to "some other metal canister broken up" and certainly no ID number, Star of David or such.

re: #240 hous bin pharteen

re: #237 storagemanager

Excuse my ignorance of mid-east history, but was Baghdad called Baghdad back in Mo's day?

[Link: www.al-islam.org...] ...
[Link: www.karbala-najaf.org...] ..

re: #223 jwbaumann

OT
Charles,
[Link: www.kare11.com...]
Breaking news - terror bust in Frederick, Wisconsin - news at 10pm on Kare11 in Minneapolis.

Terrorist suspect arrested in Wisconsin

A small town Wisconsin police chief has apparently captured a very big time criminal.

According to Frederic police chief R. J. Severude, an internationally wanted terrorist is sitting in the Polk County jail.

Chief Severude says Hassan Mohamed Abdiaziz was stopped for speeding and when officers ran his Minnesota driver's license, they found the man was wanted on several outstanding felony warrants.

Severude says Abdiaziz is wanted by the FBI, DEA, and several foreign agencies for terrorist activities.

KARE 11 has a crew on the way to Frederic and we will have more information at KARE 11 News at 10 p.m.

galloping granny

Questions: Why would Israel have them fly over just Syria to bomb that place? Why not fly over Jordan (unless the intent was to keep the opposition off guard as to the intended target)?

I'm talking strictly here in terms of distance here; I have no idea how much firepower Israeli jets would have taken from Jordanian forces. But that really seems like the super-long way around.

I would agree that Israel taking anything out that originated from Iran is good news indeed. But the path of the planes seems odd to me.

/I never claimed to be any kind of military expert on anything

re: #242 GeeWiz

I am thinking that would not work very well since their would be another attack if we pretended the war was over.

re: #242 GeeWiz

And he wouldn't see it as a victory for himself? I just can't seem to buy that.

re: #240 hous bin pharteen

From the Wikipedia entry:

Foundation
The city of Baghdad is often said to have been founded on the west bank of the Tigris on 30 July 762 by the Abbasid dynasty, led by caliph al-Mansur, replacing Harran as the seat of the caliphal government; however, a city of Baghdad is mentioned in pre-Islamic texts, including the Talmud,[3] and the Abbasid city was likely built on the site of this earlier settlement.

Baghdad eclipsed Ctesiphon, the capital of the Persian Empire, which was located some 30 km (20 miles) to the southeast, which had been under Muslim control since 637, and which became quickly deserted after the foundation of Baghdad. The site of Babylon, which had been deserted since the 2nd century BC, lies some 90 km (55 miles) to the south.

The city was designed as a circle about 2 km in diameter, leading it to be known as the "Round City". The original design shows a ring of residential and commercial structures along the inside of the city walls, but the final construction added another ring, inside the first.[4] In the center of the city lay the mosque, as well as headquarters for guards. The purpose or use of the remaining space in the center is unknown. The circular design of the city was a direct reflection of the traditional Persian Sasanian urban design. The ancient Sasanian city of Gur/Firouzabad is nearly identical in its general circular design, radiating avenues, and the government buildings and temples at the center of the city.

The roundness points to the fact that it was based on Persian precedents such as Firouzabad in Persia.[5] The two designers who were hired by al-Mansur to plan the city's design were Naubakht, a former Persian Zoroastrian who also determined that the date of the foundation of the city would be astrologically auspicious, and Mashallah, a Jew from Khorasan, Iran.[6]

Designed by a Jew, mentioned in the Talmud.

re: #236 galloping granny He's probably not walking, but strapped to a goat. But I see your point, that would be tough on the heart. Might shorten his life expectancy. Damn.

re: #249 Killgore Trout

re: #244 mama winger

Looks like another one picked up from a random traffic stop. We're getting lucky picking these guys up.

I'm not sure where Frederick is. I'm going to go look at a Wisconsin map and see whether I should lock my doors tonight or leave them open like I usually do.

re: #243 southernborn

#237 Storagemanager

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad thinks he can bring back the 12th Imam...Mohammad said Baghdad would be destroyed before the coming of the Mahdi...what must Mahmoud do to bring him back?

No matter what he says, there are other turbins involved that want to live. he can't do what he wants to do

He is the new Hitler...

Supreme Leader-IRGC
Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei said on Sunday that the Islamic Revolution served the national identity and dignity of the Iranian nation thanks to leadership of the late Imam Khomeini

They are following the plan he made..Khomeini [Link: www2.irna.com...]

re: #240 hous bin pharteen

re: #237 storagemanager

Excuse my ignorance of mid-east history, but was Baghdad called Baghdad back in Mo's day?

According to Wiki (I know, I know) Bagdad the city we know today did not exist at all in old Mo's day. It is said to have been founded on 30 July 732 by the Abassid dynasty.

There is a Bagdad mentioned in the area in some pre-islamic texts, according to Wiki including the Talmud.

More - [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

If he's alive I suspect he's not moving under his own power or missing limbs.

I'll said it before and I'll say it again: if he can't produce a video of himself with a shoe scrawled with today's date atop his head, he's not alive.

re: #229 cbinflux

Yeah - And if it works, someone on the Yahoo "Green" Page will be lecturing us that we are Depleting the Oceans and Killing the Fish.
/channeling today's Rush Limbaugh Show

-S-

He's still alive, living in London & will probably have front row seats at the Led Zeppelin concert.

re: #245 chicagodudewhotrades

re: #240 hous bin pharteen

baghdad was once called Babylon wasn't it?

No. Babylon is in Iraq, some miles from Bagdad. The ruins are still there and there are some pictures from our invasion of US military vehicles parked there.

re: #252 cbinflux

He's named in a plaintiff lawsuit against Ashcroft...
N THE UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE DISTRICT OF MINNESOTA

See page 7.

re: #245 chicagodudewhotrades
Dunno.
I forget that.
Thats why I was aksing my fellow lizards.

/not my fault. I was edumacated in publik skool.

I'm assuming alive until I see otherwise. Always a mistake to assume anything not in evidence.