What does the Big Lizard Upstairs think?

Huh?

Well?

Ok, I'll knock it off now.

If he's dead thats good. If he's alive that's good as well because we need to test out some of our new weapons systems/target acquisition technology.

I'm still in the minority.

What are we worried about Bin Laden for? Keith Olbermann says Rupert Murdoch is a far greater threat to the United States than Al Qaeda. And he's "truthy".

Maybe Alive or Dead he will pass into obscurity and be forgotten.

Never forget those he killed.

Why would the troofers want OBL alive if BushitlerChimpCheneyWhatever did 9/11? Five minutes of waterboarding his skinny ass and he'd be singing better than Britney.

Ajax scrubs out the bugs and makes clean code.

I think he's bin dead.

If he is dead, they're probably hiding the fact from Muslims, not from the "West".

re: #13 song_and_dance_man

re: #6 Thanos

I'm still in the minority.

I'm with you there in the minority.

Me too.

re: #1 Killgore Trout

re: #2 Killgore Trout

re: #3 Killgore Trout

re: #4 Killgore Trout

All by yourself for 1 minute 30 seconds and you give up... Think about OBL, cold and alone under a pile of rocks and he still cares enough to send us a tape.

I'm thinking that he taped a bunch of stuff in '04 before he died of whatever he died from.

*shrugs* Everyone will believe what they want to believe.

re: #16 bekeld

*shrugs* Everyone will believe what they want to believe.

Not really, a lot of us really want to know the truth.

re: #6 Thanos

I'm still in the minority.

Me too. Welcome.

How can anyone vote "unsure" everyone is unsure. What's in your gut?

Don't know if someone here has already posted this but Hotair is claiming that the latest Binney video was a fake.

Well, color me shocked!

He's dead. His beard is on life support.

re: #15 jcm

re: #1 Killgore Trout

re: #2 Killgore Trout

re: #3 Killgore Trout

re: #4 Killgore Trout

All by yourself for 1 minute 30 seconds and you give up... Think about OBL, cold and alone under a pile of rocks and he still cares enough to send us a tape.

lol

Ron Paul!

I love the horizontal bar chart on the poll question, the current results look exactly like we are giving Osama the dead man's finger.

Dirt. Bag.

what was it mark steyn said? He's "bin laiden to rest".

Worm food. Pushing up daisies.

If he's bin dead for a while, we may never find his body...just like old Adolf.

re: #17 Killgore Trout

re: #16 bekeld

*shrugs* Everyone will believe what they want to believe.

Not really, a lot of us really want to know the truth.

If he's dead good... if he's alive we need to know... so we can me him dead.

re: #15 jcm

re: #1 Killgore Trout

re: #2 Killgore Trout

re: #3 Killgore Trout

re: #4 Killgore Trout

All by yourself for 1 minute 30 seconds and you give up... Think about OBL, cold and alone under a pile of rocks and he still cares enough to send us a tape.

Yeah, Killgore! Didn't anyone ever tell you that patience was a virtue? ;)

I still say he's too evil to do us the favor of dying. But trust me, I would really, really like to spit on his corpse.

re: #20 29Victor

AP included this disclaimer at the bottom...

On the other hand, he seems to think Waleed al-Shehri, who’s been dead for six years, is Adam Gadahn, so take his analysis with a grain of salt.

If he really is dead, are the Democrats going to apologize to Bush for saying that he took his eye off the ball?

re: #8 David IV of Georgia

Maybe Alive or Dead he will pass into obscurity and be forgotten.

Never forget those he killed.

One of the Top 5 UK '80s bands of uncertain sexual orientation.

re: #23 christheprofessor

Ron Paul!

Crap! You beat me to it. How's Best Dog?

I was in the narrowest of minorities, too, after the first bombing of the WTC. I said they'd be back. People thought I was a kook.

re: #27 jcm

PIMF ... make him dead.

re: #23 christheprofessor

Ron Paul!

Ron Paul?

In reference to:
re: #20 29Victor

Uhh... well, never mind. (Managed to see the big, fat posting this time).

re: #31 DesertSage

If he really is dead, are the Democrats going to apologize to Bush for saying that he took his eye off the ball?

No chance, that question cannot even be made in the Big Media (BM)...

Being that Bin Laden was a faithful muslim, he never really was alive at all.

...his light was extinguished by his faith.

There is no light in true islam. Only darkness and death.

Dead or Alive? I think anyone could tell this band's sexual orientation.

re: #28 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Patience? Virtue? I'm unfamiliar with the words. Are they in some fancy dictionary of something?

He is still dead Jim!

re: #36 kahall

re: #23 christheprofessor

Ron Paul!

Ron Paul?

Ron Paul is dead? Never would have guessed.

Some Duke while I go digging

Osama bin Laidead.

re: #43 hous bin pharteen

He is still dead Jim!

Fixed it.

re: #30 Killgore Trout

re: #20 29Victor

AP included this disclaimer at the bottom...

On the other hand, he seems to think Waleed al-Shehri, who’s been dead for six years, is Adam Gadahn, so take his analysis with a grain of salt.

Adam Gadahn bears a remarkable resemblance to to this barista at a Starbucks I used to frequent in downtown Houston (where I've been drunk many times, Ed.). So much so that I actually thought they were one in the same. I came thisclose to calling the FBI.

re: #43 hous bin pharteen

He is still dead Jim!

You need to put the sound over that serious hamster vid...

I agree with #12 varys - if he were to die, I think they'd hide it as long as possible, not so much because it would be a victory for us (or at least a positive thing), but because they'd be afraid of losing a lot of his followers; I have to think (or hope) that a lot of these losers are just "Osama Groupies" that don't really have the cojones for true warfare, and that if they didn't have him to fawn over, they might lose their hard ons for jihad (pardon my French, my mother would be appalled). I think the true believers know this, and would keep any bad news regarding OBL under wraps; PLUS, if he were to die of anything besides a US bomb - like if he finally succumbed to that nasty rash or something - they'd never want it publicized that he didn't go out in a blaze of glory.

OT:

Ahmadinnerjacket wants peace for all--the peace of the dead, in the case of Israel.

re: #23 christheprofessor

Ron Paul!

To you sir, I say this...

And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment...Hebrews 9:27

That is one trial I'd like to see.

Power to the Correct People!
(But never the resurected-by-video ones.)

I think ron paul is amost dead

He is as dead as John Kerry's personality, Al Gores intellect, Kos's patriotism, Britney Spears talent, and Hilary Clinton's sex appeal.

The video is fake but accurate.

/Rather mode off,

He's dead but it won't matter to his millions of followers.

re: #41 Killgore Trout

re: #28 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Patience? Virtue? I'm unfamiliar with the words. Are they in some fancy dictionary of something?

LOL

Hilary Clinton's sex appeal. What the heck is that

Voted yes the first time around, but after reading the digital forensics piece I'm more inclined to think he's sandworm food.

re: #55 tblot

I think ron paul is amost dead

Well his campaign is.

re: #59 tblot

Hilary Clinton's sex appeal. What the heck is that

Arachnids and slugs have sex, too. Don't be so narrowminded.

I think the Russkies took Hitler's skull. He had really made them angry.

Of course, if Stalin and Molotov hadn't given Hitler the greenlight to invade Poland (in exchange for part of it), the subsequent invasion of Russia and the millions dead wouldn't have happened.

On the other hand, if Hitler had kept his deal with Stalin and the USSR, the NYT and leading Commie symps of the day probably never would have supported US entry into any war against Nazi Germany.

re: #60 Rain Patriot

Voted yes the first time around, but after reading the digital forensics piece I'm more inclined to think he's sandworm food.

More people seem to be voting that he's dead today.

re: #63 song_and_dance_man

re: #59 tblot

Hilary Clinton's sex appeal. What the heck is that

Muffer magnet.

ewww.

I think we'd get more accurate results if we polled all male Paki's under the age of 15.

Well he might be in hiding or dead but what is with his #2 man have not heard from him lately

Interesting side bar to the topic:

Early yesterday morning, a South Carolina Web designer who works at home managed to scoop al-Qaeda by publicly unveiling its new video, a feat she has accomplished numerous times since 2002. Within hours, cable news stations were broadcasting images of Osama bin Laden commemorating the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, and crediting the 50-year-old woman, who uses the pseudonym Laura Mansfield.

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

re: #62 David IV of Georgia

lol

re: #68 tblot

Well he might be in hiding or dead but what is with his #2 man have not heard from him lately

I think he's doing a Garbo.

He's dead. Here's what you can do with the body.

Why make a fake video to prove he is alive?
Dead
Dead
Dead

Thank the USAF.

re: #66 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #63 song_and_dance_man

re: #59 tblot

Hilary Clinton's sex appeal. What the heck is that

Muffer magnet.

ewww.

Being a lesbian trapped in a man's body, I must respectfully and fully disagree...

re: #54 IslandLibertarian

haha!

You all remember Mr. Hsu, right? Well, here is a very interesting piece I just ran accross at the WSJ '60s Figure Says He Financed Donor Hsu, via a link on Real Clear Politics.

Voted unsure both times. Just don't trust the jihadis for anything. They have reasons to lie if he's dead and they have reasons to lie if he's alive.

re: #72 meMarc

He's dead. Here's what you can do with the body.

To click, or not to click...that is the question.

Dead as Bill Clinton's morals.

The new mainstream of the Democratic party...

Howard Dean Parties with American Muslims

Dean made quite an impression with Muslims at ISNA, and it marks the first time that a major political leader has made outreach to the convention, which usually brings together somewhere between 30-50,000 Muslims from around the country, most of them of voting age.

In a wonderful blog post by a Chicago blogger, the evolution of American Islam - the difference between older Muslims who were largely apathetic towards politics and the young "ISNA Deaniacs" -- is made clearly manifest.
...
There is a reason that Republicans do not outreach to ISNA. In a case involving a charity with alleged links to Hamas currently going on in Dallas, the complaint listed ISNA (along with 300 other Muslim figures and organizations) as "unindicted co-conspirators." Conservatives use ISNA's appearance on such a list to smear it as an enemy to America.

...
There is really no reason for ISNA to be on this list. The fact of the matter is that the Department of Justice actually had a booth at the ISNA convention this year. So did the Department of Homeland Security -- in fact, in an amusing twist, see this picture where they sat right next to an organization which stupidly but peacefully agitates for an international caliphate and didn't make any arrests.

Legitimizing the Caliphate.

re: #59 tblot

Hilary Clinton's sex appeal. What the heck is that

Well, if it's the same as Bill Clinton's sex 'appeal', it would be something like:

I did not have sex with that woman...

re: #33 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Howdy. She's great, thanks. Begging for a piece of chicken as I type...

re: #36 kahall

re: #23 christheprofessor

Ron Paul!

Ron Paul?

Ron Paul.

re: #78 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Not gross. I promise.

Dead as Dan Rathers honesty.

Oh yeah and I think OBL is still alive. Even though he is not in a position to record those videos.

re: #81 rabidsquirrel

true true

Whether the clip was spliced or not is not the salient point. The big question is when Obama - sorry, I mean, Osama - bin Laden mentioned temporal recent events can those be verified as emanating in Arabic from the mouth of Ob...Osama? Until then, one must remain agnostic. However, the Obasama clip does show demonstrate one thing equivocally: whether Osamabama is alive or not, the Al Qaeda jihadis behind the clip are in a state of desperation. They are weak and referring to Noam Chomsky, etc. because they are in retreat and not making the headway they feel that they deserve, Inshallah.

re: #72 meMarc

He's dead. Here's what you can do with the body.

Nah. Embalm him with lard, pack his carcass in pig dung and bury it in a pig farm. Then send his followers (and Al-Jazeera) a video of us doing so.

re: #56 hous bin pharteen

He is as dead as John Kerry's personality, Al Gores intellect, Kos's patriotism, Britney Spears talent, and Hilary Clinton's sex appeal.

Well, that's dead. Can't get any deader without failing to be born in the first place.

re: #74 RightOfAtilla

re: #66 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #63 song_and_dance_man

re: #59 tblot

Hilary Clinton's sex appeal. What the heck is that

Muffer magnet.

ewww.

Being a lesbian trapped in a man's body, I must respectfully and fully disagree...

That's what my boyfriend says he is!

When his sister told him and their brother that she was a lesbian she said "I like women". That's how she announced it. Well the brothers stood up, in the middle of a very nice restaurant and said..."Really! I like women too!" My BF then said, "Wow, I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body!"

It was hard to not spit the nice merlot over the pristine tablecloth, but I managed.

Charles,

Ramada started today. How about a little emblem up in a top corner to signify our respect and acknowledgment of the Religion of Peace's holy days, when all good muslim's thoughts turn to feeding the poor, communion with Allah, and blowing up the infidel?

#12 vrsys

A very astute point. I really think if the guy was alive, he'd be in our face 24/7 to rub it in and boost the "fighting spirit" of those exploding maniacs.

Dead as Obermans ratings...

re: #53 rabidsquirrel

re: #23 christheprofessor

Ron Paul!

To you sir, I say this...

Heh...

here's my take - zawahiri's vids are always being released. decent production values. lotsa graphics and such (practically high def quality). salami bin throbbin's are always so lame. so grainy. so jerky. always a still shot. never anything close to the "aliveness" (if you will) of zawahiri.

why?

let me answer that for everyone. that's cuz he's frikkin dead!

re: #83 meMarc

re: #78 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Not gross. I promise.

Well, to a guy or a lesbian, perhaps. I, OTOH, am a homosexual trapped in a woman's body.

re: #31 DesertSage

Hmm, this invites a veritable Cyrano-like litany of responses.

Medical: "Bin Laden dead of disease! You see, a mere microbe is stronger than Bush."

Conspiratorial: "Bush has been hiding bin Laden's corpse for 2 years so he could keep up his oil grab in Iraq."

Hyperconspiratorial: "Bin Laden never existed; he was a sock-puppet created by Halliburton that sent brain waves that forced Clinton to have sex with Monica, thus setting up George W. Bush for his eternal reign over the entire world."

John-Edwardsesque: "He would have lived if Afghanistan had had national health care."

re: #76 Beobachter

You all remember Mr. Hsu, right? Well, here is a very interesting piece I just ran accross at the WSJ '60s Figure Says He Financed Donor Hsu, via a link on Real Clear Politics.

Yeah, it was the Woodstock guy.

The latest video(s) moved me from "no" to "unsure".

Ramadan's starting? Any pool on how many people will be crushed to death in Mekka?

Dead as Ron Paul's chance at getting the Republican nomination...

re: #95 sbvft contributor

let me answer that for everyone. that's cuz he's frikkin dead!

Weekend at Osama's?

re: #100 David IV of Georgia

Ramadan's starting? Any pool on how many people will be crushed to death in Mekka?

Put me in for 500.

re: #72 meMarc

He's dead. Here's what you can do with the body.

Hmm, what is the secret...

re: #100 David IV of Georgia

Ramadan's starting? Any pool on how many people will be crushed to death in Mekka?

285

Bin Laden used to be able to deliver terrorists to hijack planes and crash them into buildings, but now all he can do is deliver video tapes.

Hell, I thought I had stumbled onto a Saturday Night Live skit when I saw the latest videos.

If he is alive, I keep waiting for him to announce as a candidate for the Democratic nomination for the presidency. He's on par with the other candidates, except they haven't used "Just for Men" beard dye in the last few months. Well, maybe Hillary has, but only Nancy Pelosi could confirm that.

After lots of digging I've come up without official gov't confirmation in any of the stories on voiceprint -- everything says "still analyzing". So... I think jury is out.

If the prints match, and there's not tons of splicing in the "current events" segments, then he's alive.

9/11%u2033 Zogby Poll Was Commissioned By Iran

Has any one heard of this one it seems iran are polling uas too

re: #100 David IV of Georgia

Ramadan's starting? Any pool on how many people will be crushed to death in Mekka?

The number doesn't matter. How ever many are crushed, it is merely Allah's will.

/Let's hope that Allah is bored...

re: #92 howyadoin

Yep. And it wouldn't look good if he died in a cave while hiding from the infidel.

Yeah he's dead, but it would be a good thing to see the corpse.

/I'm from Missouri

re: #63 song_and_dance_man

re: #59 tblot

Hilary Clinton's sex appeal. What the heck is that

Muffer magnet.

I am fucking sick...thanks alot...good grief!

re: #95 sbvft contributor

here's my take - zawahiri's vids are always being released. decent production values. lotsa graphics and such (practically high def quality). salami bin throbbin's are always so lame. so grainy. so jerky. always a still shot. never anything close to the "aliveness" (if you will) of zawahiri.

why?

let me answer that for everyone. that's cuz he's frikkin dead!

For some reason I'm hearing The Dead Parrot sketch in my mind...

re: #91 Maine's Michael

Hmm, let's challenge dKos and Huffpo to do that?

Dead as Chens logic...

re: #109 tblot

9/11%u2033 Zogby Poll Was Commissioned By Iran

Has any one heard of this one it seems iran are polling uas too

Iran has an interest in pushing trutherism. They're in competition with AQ to see who can wage the best Jihad. Winner gets to be Caliph.

Dead as Teddy Kennedy's swim partner?

As I keep saying, if he were alive, he'd be on Good Morning America, or on the BBC.

The Gramscian Whores of the media would have tracked him down.

He's deader than a dead parrot.

Dead a Hillary's man Foster?

Dead as Senator Windbag Warner's baby's arm?

re: #91 Maine's Michael

Charles,

Ramada started today. How about a little emblem up in a top corner to signify our respect and acknowledgment of the Religion of Peace's holy days, when all good muslim's thoughts turn to feeding the poor, communion with Allah, and blowing up the infidel?

Is that the Mormon hotel chain?

re: #118 Maine's Michael

Yup.

re: #119 WhiteRasta

As I keep saying, if he were alive, he'd be on Good Morning America, or on the BBC.

The Gramscian Whores of the media would have tracked him down.

He's deader than a dead parrot.

deader than an unborn dead parrot...jeez...what's with britt these days?

Here's some of Hugh Hewitt's thoughts on Bin Ladenhosen:

The frustration in Bin Laden's letter is also because he and his followers are not up against the Soviets who he and his fellow jihadists battled in Afghanistan in the 1980s, but against a far more lethal, far more competent American military fully on display in Kaplan's pages. They are winning the war against Bin Laden's progeny not just in Anbar province but in places as far removed from each other as the remote islands in the Philippines, the rugged desert roads beyond Timbuktu, the jungles of Colombia and the south of Algeria. Bin Laden's desperate appeals to the anti-war left in the United States are increasingly high-pitched because Bin Laden is recognizing not only that he was wrong about America's character and its president, but also about his troops' ability to go against the Western world's finest.

Bin Laden realizes he can't win. Only the American left can save his vision, and the small bits of hope he has come from newspaper ads in the New York Times attacking Gen. Petraeus, the dizzyingly stupid remarks of members of congress like Robert Wexler and Loretta Sanchez and senators like Barbara Boxer and Joe Biden, and the comments on a thousand blogs written by the tiny segment of the American population that sees retreat and defeat as a necessary thing. "How can I be losing to these people?" he must wonder. That is one confused hedgehog who knew the wrong thing because of very bad data

re: #125 song_and_dance_man

They did the mash

They did the Muslim Mash

The Muslim Mash

It was a Mecca splash

The Muslim Mash

They stepped on with a smash

The Muslim Mash

They did the Muslim Mash

ahh ooo

this man has a future!...somewhere

re: #124 albusteve

re: #119 WhiteRasta

As I keep saying, if he were alive, he'd be on Good Morning America, or on the BBC.

The Gramscian Whores of the media would have tracked him down.

He's deader than a dead parrot.

deader than an unborn dead parrot...jeez...what's with britt these days?

They have a quirky sense of humor. Take the popularity of Mr. Bean, for instance.

As dead as Katie Courics career as a news anchor.,,

Slightly Off Topic: Osama Obama claims modest reduction in violence due to ethnic cleansing.

.."Any pool on how many people will be crushed to death in Mekka?.."

I'll bet 2 Bolivian Pesos the number will be higher than 300.

Allah's will that will be that many less of them to breed with their sisters and cousins.

Michael Medved said it was entirely coincidental that Bombadon and the JNY start the same night.

Actually, since both the Judaic and Islamic calendars are lunar, with the difference the Musselmen never tried to figure out a system to have their seasons correlate with their calendar, then Bombadan should fall on JNY about once every 12 years.

re: #128 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #124 albusteve

re: #119 WhiteRasta

As I keep saying, if he were alive, he'd be on Good Morning America, or on the BBC.
The Gramscian Whores of the media would have tracked him down.

He's deader than a dead parrot.

deader than an unborn dead parrot...jeez...what's with britt these days?

They have a quirky sense of humor. Take the popularity of Mr. Bean, for instance.

I dont get it...is mr. bean a dead parrot?...Im from new mexico and rather unpolished...unwashed too for that matter...

Time for the Sopranos.

good night fellow Lizards.

re: #130 Macker

Slightly Off Topic: Osama Obama claims modest reduction in violence due to ethnic cleansing.

I don't which is scarier; he thinks he should be POTUS, or the people who think he should.

re: #129 hous bin pharteen

As dead as Katie Courics career as a news anchor.,,

She hasn't worked out as an anchor. The ratings were never as high as her televised colonoscopy.

She's getting a new gig as the Democratic Party's rectosigmoid, though.

re: #125 song_and_dance_man

[splodeydope]
Yeah! Mash cool!
[/splodeydope]

I don't think the Hajj happens during Bombadon.

BTW, because Musselmen couldn't figure out a modern calendar, Musselman can't live in Fairbanks, AK. About once a decade, the Bombadon will fall during the Northern Hemisphere Summer, the sun won't set, and the Musselmen would starve or die of dehydration.

More dead than the LGF Watch blog...

. . . passing all their shit to the American people.

re: #134 albusteve

Unrelated British comedies...
Monty Python's Flying Circus - Dead Parrot Sketch

Mr. Bean

re: #137 Maine's Michael

re: #129 hous bin pharteen

As dead as Katie Courics career as a news anchor.,,

She hasn't worked out as an anchor. The ratings were never as high as her televised colonoscopy.

She's getting a new gig as the Democratic Party's rectosigmoid, though.

she means far less than I do in the greater scheme...and Im an asshole too...sometimes...

re: #134 albusteve

re: #128 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #124 albusteve

re: #119 WhiteRasta

As I keep saying, if he were alive, he'd be on Good Morning America, or on the BBC.
The Gramscian Whores of the media would have tracked him down.
He's deader than a dead parrot.

deader than an unborn dead parrot...jeez...what's with britt these days?

They have a quirky sense of humor. Take the popularity of Mr. Bean, for instance.

I dont get it...is mr. bean a dead parrot?...Im from new mexico and rather unpolished...unwashed too for that matter...

Sorry... The Dead Parrot Sketch is a classic comedy sketch from Monty Python's Flying Circus. Here's a link to their Wikipedia article:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

And a link to The Parrot Sketch:

Here is Mr. Bean:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

I'm an American, but I love British humor. I hope you enjoy!

re: #140 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

I don't think the Hajj happens during Bombadon.

BTW, because Musselmen couldn't figure out a modern calendar, Musselman can't live in Fairbanks, AK. About once a decade, the Bombadon will fall during the Northern Hemisphere Summer, the sun won't set, and the Musselmen would starve or die of dehydration.

You are correct. I believe it occurs during the 12th month of the Islamic calendar, not the 9th.

Obligatory Monty Python

Mr. Praline: Never mind that, my lad. I wish to complain about this parrot what I purchased not half an hour ago from this very boutique.
Owner: Oh yes, the, uh, the Norwegian Blue...What's,uh...What's wrong with it?
Mr. Praline: I'll tell you what's wrong with it, my lad. 'E's dead, that's what's wrong with it!
Owner: No, no, 'e's uh,...he's resting.
Mr. Praline: Look, matey, I know a dead parrot when I see one, and I'm looking at one right now.
Owner: No no he's not dead, he's, he's restin'! Remarkable bird, the Norwegian Blue, idn'it, ay? Beautiful plumage!
Mr. Praline: The plumage don't enter into it. It's stone dead.
Owner: Nononono, no, no! 'E's resting!

re: #138 song_and_dance_man

re: #134 albusteve

Im from new mexico and rather unpolished...unwashed too for that matter...

I moved to ABQ last year. We'll have to get together sometime for a two man LGF meet.

no shit?...whoa...I'll dust off my wingtips...are you kidding?...obviously not...well hell yeah amigo

re: #130 Macker

As dead as Osama's neurons and glia.

I don't know but I've been told ...

I'm a cheeky monkey.

Suspect he's dead, pray he's alive.
Want him to enjoy cowering in fear of US military.

As mentioned on last thread, many might mistakenly believe he's alive by referencing recent events in past tense, but that's easy to do.

No option for "Ron Paul"? Fixed poll! ;)

re: #146 rabidsquirrel

Makes one wonder if there are any Mohammedans in Antarctica during the Northern Hemisphere's winter. Same thing.

re: #154 song_and_dance_man

re: #148 albusteve

Anytime bro, lunch is on my dime.

hey...I hear the bell when it rings...I'm in the heights

Well, I'm off to watch TV, hopefully to see reporters standing in puddles and pontificating about the high winds of Humberto.

If I'm lucky, we'll get something similar to this out of our beloved fourth estate:

[Link: www.zebrality.com...]

Pretty dissapointing for tropical storm fans living West of US Highway 59. Like me.

Radar Loop

Now, Lake Charles radar is the one with the best action!

re: #157 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Pretty dissapointing for tropical storm fans living West of US Highway 59. Like me.

Radar Loop

Now, Lake Charles radar is the one with the best action!

This totally sucks! I wanted a day off tomorrow. I haven't seen Judge Judy in months!

re: #157 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Pretty dissapointing for tropical storm fans living West of US Highway 59. Like me.

Radar Loop

Now, Lake Charles radar is the one with the best action!

Not to mention, I love a good lightning show.

Poll worked great, and clicking "show" didn't stick me in the spin cycle. Good work, Charles.

And I voted "dead". I won't believe he's alive until katie books him for an interview.

re: #161 Sharmuta

Poll worked great, and clicking "show" didn't stick me in the spin cycle. Good work, Charles.

And I voted "dead". I won't believe he's alive until katie books him for an interview.

I hope Oprah gets the interview. Or Dr. Phil. Can you imagine? LOL

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I was working in the lab late one night
When my eyes beheld an eerie sight
For my Obama from his slab began to rise
And suddenly to my surprise

He did the mash
He did the Obama mash
The Obama mash
It was a graveyard smash
He did the mash
It caught on in a flash
He did the mash
He did the Obama mash

From my laboratory in the castle east
To the master bedroom where the vampires feast
The ghouls all came from their humble abodes
To get a jolt from my electrodes

They did the mash
They did the Obama mash
The Obama mash
It was a graveyard smash
They did the mash
It caught on in a flash
They did the mash
They did the Obama mash

The zombies were having fun
The party had just begun
The guests included Zarqawi Man
Dracula and his son

The scene was rockin', all were digging the sounds
Igor on chains, backed by his baying hounds
The coffin-bangers were about to arrive
With their vocal group, "The Crypt-Kicker Five"

They played the mash
They played the Obama mash
The Obama mash
It was a graveyard smash
They played the mash
It caught on in a flash
They played the mash
They played the Obama mash

Out from his coffin, Drac's voice did ring
Seems he was troubled by just one thing
He opened the lid and shook his fist
And said, "Whatever happened to my Transylvania twist?"

It's now the mash
It's now the Obama mash
The Obama mash
And it's a graveyard smash
It's now the mash
It's caught on in a flash
It's now the mash
It's now the Obama mash

Now everything's cool, Drac's a part of the band
And my Obama mash is the hit of the land
For you, the living, this mash was meant too
When you get to my door, tell them Boris sent you

Then you can mash
Then you can Obama mash
The Obama mash
And do my graveyard smash
Then you can mash
You'll catch on in a flash
Then you can mash
Then you can Obama mash

re: #162 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #161 Sharmuta

Poll worked great, and clicking "show" didn't stick me in the spin cycle. Good work, Charles.

And I voted "dead". I won't believe he's alive until katie books him for an interview.

I hope Oprah gets the interview. Or Dr. Phil. Can you imagine? LOL

I hope 100 NYPD and NYFD get the "interview"

re: #162 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

That's why I picked katie. I might not agree with her on everything, but I do respect Oprah. That's a self-made woman with some class. She wouldn't take osama's phone call, I'd bet.

Question:
If Bin Laden, Castro, Chavez and Kim Jung Il all jumped off the Empire State Building at the same time, who would hit the ground first?
And yes, that is assuming they are all alive.

Answer:
Who cares.

Power to the Correct People!

re: #166 Sharmuta

re: #162 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

That's why I picked katie. I might not agree with her on everything, but I do respect Oprah. That's a self-made woman with some class. She wouldn't take osama's phone call, I'd bet.

Give it to Alan Colmes, but make sure the subtitle operator can tell the diffrence between Skeletor One and Skeletor Two.

OldLineTexan

Charles:

I can still see the dreaded Comment Ratings even though I unclicked that option in Manage My Account. I don't wanna see them...

Ok a second page reload disappeared them. Carry on.

re: #166 Sharmuta

re: #162 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

That's why I picked katie. I might not agree with her on everything, but I do respect Oprah. That's a self-made woman with some class. She wouldn't take osama's phone call, I'd bet.

Heh. For a moment there, I read your post as saying "She wouldn't take Obama's phone call..."

I thought to myself: Self, what is Sharmuta smoking?

re: #168 savage_nation

re: #150 MandyManners

I don't know but I've been told ...

I'm a cheeky monkey.

Check your email, I sent you a note

You sent a note to da cheeky monkey? You da brave one.

Ron Paul?

Greetings from Kanuckistan Lizards!

I think ObamaOsama is stone dead. Hopefully courtesy of the US Military, or from the lack of evil western medical technology, but dead nonetheless.

Al Q is a bunch of failed, sissy has-beens now. The ones with the nuts to show their faces are all dead, probably mostly by Iraqis these days.

Democrats are saddened, blame Bush. Errr, wait...

Can we have a poll of how many people know Hillary only uses the military for serving canapes at White House soirees?

It was comparable to Jamie Gorelick questioning Condi Rice about Intel lapses - the CLinton appointee bureaucrat who set the Wall in place. Even chutzpah fails utterly to convey the nerve of that woman to demand that Rice answer her questions when a sizeable chunk of the blame was hers for implementing the travesty she was tasked to do by her superiors, for reasons never explained. Mena airport comes to mind unbidden whenever the WALL subject comes up, wonder why.

Then Hillary, of the Bill (I loath the military) Clinton-meld, sits at the table and questions General Patraeus, she of the make-the-Marines-waiters-infamy, about integrity. Cattle futures, fund-raiser coffees, Chinese missle technology ... These people are completely without shame. Don't make nice, it's never appreciated and would be marked down as weakness.

re: #172 rabidsquirrel

I thought to myself: Self, what is Sharmuta smoking?

LOL. The joys of the double take.

Beautiful!

re: #126 Thanos

Here's some of Hugh Hewitt's thoughts on Bin Ladenhosen:

The frustration in Bin Laden's letter is also because he and his followers are not up against the Soviets who he and his fellow jihadists battled in Afghanistan in the 1980s, but against a far more lethal, far more competent American military fully on display in Kaplan's pages. They are winning the war against Bin Laden's progeny not just in Anbar province but in places as far removed from each other as the remote islands in the Philippines, the rugged desert roads beyond Timbuktu, the jungles of Colombia and the south of Algeria. Bin Laden's desperate appeals to the anti-war left in the United States are increasingly high-pitched because Bin Laden is recognizing not only that he was wrong about America's character and its president, but also about his troops' ability to go against the Western world's finest.

Bin Laden realizes he can't win. Only the American left can save his vision, and the small bits of hope he has come from newspaper ads in the New York Times attacking Gen. Petraeus, the dizzyingly stupid remarks of members of congress like Robert Wexler and Loretta Sanchez and senators like Barbara Boxer and Joe Biden, and the comments on a thousand blogs written by the tiny segment of the American population that sees retreat and defeat as a necessary thing. "How can I be losing to these people?" he must wonder. That is one confused hedgehog who knew the wrong thing because of very bad data

Ooohhh, that was fast. But when I voted NO, I was thinking of the once libertarian known as Ron Paul. He does look pale.

I like the the real time view of this type of poll. Next time do something concerning Ron Paul.

Osama is dead.

I would hope that someday we can recover his remains and mix them into the cement used to make a sewage treatment plant settling pond.

We should give the man the respect he deserves.

re: #161 Sharmuta

Poll worked great, and clicking "show" didn't stick me in the spin cycle. Good work, Charles.

And I voted "dead". I won't believe he's alive until katie books him for an interview.

Hey --- did you see Dick Morris's thingy against Fred today?
It was pretty well done. I still believe in Fred, but ...well, Dick's often quite prescient ... All very interesting.

FF

Arguments against Obamasama being alive: (1) The guys is very tall and noticeable. (2) If we were alive, being the rock star jihadi he is, wouldn't he be issuing more videos? (3) Related to point #1, the guy stands out, so unless he has lived in a safe house for years without going outside, you'd think some poor Pakistani would have reported him for the reward bucks. (4) Related to point #1, the guys stands out, so someone close to him would betrayed him, even if they knocked him off and put his Big Bird body into a truck to drive him to the American embassy for the reward bucks and a promise of asylum and protection. (5) The bombing was intense in Afghanistan and Tora Bora in particular and it would have been a hard escape. (6) With all the contacts Osamabama has, familial and otherwise, someone would have come forth with concrete information on the guy. (7) Related to all of the aforementioned, the dude stands out, knows a lot of people and is in Pashtun Pakistan, where loyalties do not run too deep and shift based on who has the biggest guns and the deepest wallets. (8) Islamists can conspire (witness 9/11) but they tend to be undisciplined when they are not organized as cells, each of which knows little of what the other is doing. (9) Musharraf is a lying hypocrite who may pretend to be our friend but may not want to really help us, much less do anything to net in our enemies.

Arguments against Olamasamabama being dead: (1) Islamist nutballs are insane zealots and love those who promote death. The Islamist nutballs may actually enjoy so much support in Pakistan that even if he were the special attraction at the jihad day parade in Lahore, nobody would turn him in. (2) We are wimpy when it comes to taking Pakistan to task. We let Pakistan get away with anything, and protect anyone, because we are so obsessed with keeping them as allies (never mind that they probably gave away nuclear secrets to North Korea and Iran, and not just as an isolated act of A.Q. Khan). Let's face it, we have not held Saudi Arabia or Pakistan or a number of other nations accountable for their crimes against all of humanity.

Osama Bin Ladin lays a molding in a cave...

He's alive and scared to come out of his hole.

Does anyone here, who believes the OBL has been worm food for quite a quite now, wonder why the Federal Government has released two obviously identifiable falsifications as these Osama bin Laden video and audio tapes?

These forgeries having been fabricated and released by Al Qaeda is understandable-- in order to motivate and activate their drones

...however

Who in the Federal Government stands to to gain by the release and broadcast of these bogus messages?

Has anyone asked these questions?

re: #185 blastforth

He's alive and scared to come out of his hole.

Must be a hard life when your roommates hang from the ceiling and squeak all night...

re: #186 fiery celt

Who says the federal goverment "released" the videos?

Even as we speak, he is in the inner circle of Hell bobbing on the thorny phallus of Beelzebub as he will for the next hundred million years.

He is dead and dining with pigs in hell

He's...
Taking a dirt nap
Bought a pine condo
Sleepin' wit da fishes
Living impaired
Gone into the fertilizer business
Checked into the Horizontal Hilton

I hope all his virgins look like Helen Thomas!

But Abe Vigoda is still alive!

To quote Arnold Judas Rimmer BSc SSc:

"SHUT UP, YOU DEAD GIT!"

188

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/ne ws/2007/09/09/wladen109.xml

American officials said the US government had obtained a copy of the video even though it had not been posted on Islamist websites - sparking speculation that US intelligence has developed an informant or cracked al-Qaeda's cyber security.

White House Analyzing New Osama bin Laden Video Tape from Homeland Security National Terror Alert

[Link: www.nationalterroralert.com...]

Intelligence sources say the video message from Osama bin Laden, expected to show up on Internet websites within the next few hours is authentic and is evidence that the al Qaeda leader is still alive. The White House has obtained a copy of a purported video...

The sonofabitch is dead, I think.

#56 hous bin pharteen 9/12/07 6:41:26 pm reply quote report

He is as dead as John Kerry's personality, Al Gores intellect, Kos's patriotism, Britney Spears talent, and

Good so far

Hilary Clinton's sex appeal.

However, this one has a problem. Doesn't something have to have been alive at one point to be dead? Otherwise it's just inanimate.

/Have you ever taken a look at Shrillary in her young days? I guarantee you, she never had any. ever. not at all. Those pictures were strong motivation for celibacy

re: #166 Sharmuta

Sharmuta

She is also the one who loves the enemies of Israel...

re: #194 fiery celt

188

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jht ml?xml=/news/2007/09/09/wladen109.xml

American officials said the US government had obtained a copy of the video even though it had not been posted on Islamist websites - sparking speculation that US intelligence has developed an informant or cracked al-Qaeda's cyber security.

White House Analyzing New Osama bin Laden Video Tape from Homeland Security National Terror Alert

[Link: www.nationalterroralert.com...]

Intelligence sources say the video message from Osama bin Laden, expected to show up on Internet websites within the next few hours is authentic and is evidence that the al Qaeda leader is still alive. The White House has obtained a copy of a purported video...

That's not the same as the Federal Government releasing the videos. The videos were available to media outlets, regardless of what the government did with them.

However long his life is or was, it is infinitely smaller than the eternity he will spend in hell...

...with a lot of the matyrs he deluded.

He is dead.

If one remembers to early 2002, President Bush had a very important speech to make. The media was all excited because they thought he was going to announce the succesfull termination of olb.

Bush paused and looked out for quite a while before he spoke. He had two paths to choose from: 1) annouce olb's death, or 2) proceed as we have.

He knew if he took the first path everybody would celebrate and then go home. So he chose the second harder path. But he did not make a decision until he was in front of the crowd.

Deader than Dale Jrs chance of winning the cup...

re: #196 AZfederalist

Tough room.
Everyone things they can be the comedian.

re: #6 Thanos

Me, too.

re: #186 fiery celt

Well part of that was answered.
The second part is, how can Bush announce he is dead without proof?
Heck, half the people think he did 9/11 instead of Osama.
They can be 99.99 % sure and still not want to say so in case he DOES show up.
My guess is he was in one of those caves we blew to hell.
There are miners we know underground in that mine collapse and they will never recover their bodies.
Imagine hiding out on your cave when they drop one of those 10,000 lb bombs in the cave mouth.

Money quote from the last thread: "The only way to prove that the audio is really bin Laden is to see him talking in the video," Krawetz says.

Because of the still photo being used while the current events parts of his speech is being said, and because the speech itself sounds unlike his previous speeches, I believe that the video demonstrates that he is almost certainly dead.

And that he's been dead for a long time.

And that it doesn't really matter.

Time for an official "Osama Bin Rotten" Haiku Contest!

Bombers High Overhead
The earth temples in fear now
Blood flows, a last gasp

(ok, I'm not a winner, but I try!)

Crap, and I haven't even been drinking!

Bombers High Overhead
The earth trembles in fear now
Blood flows, a last gasp

These polls are inaccurate. Everyone is unsure, the probability values just differ.
Is there a way to poll probabilities? Osama Bin Laden is alive P=0.65 to me.

Just goes to show that although I can't spell, I CAN kill a thread!

Do you believe Osama bin Laden is alive?

555/22.3% Yes

All right, fess up:

Who are you mysterious 555 people?

There's no way those videos are real. I (and others) have been pointing it out from day 1 -- nay, from hour 1.

There is no video of Osama mentioning current events. Only audio. (The video is a still picture during those portions). The audio is obviously someone else's voice -- either an impersonator, or a family member (younger brother as several have suggested). It even sounds like a younger person.

Of the 555, which of you can offer the evidence that it is real?

re: #14 Killgore Trout

re: #13 song_and_dance_man

re: #6 Thanos

I'm still in the minority.

I'm with you there in the minority.

Me too.

Three of my nearest and dearest buddies have lost sight of the truth! Oh, the tragedy!

re: #74 RightOfAtilla

re: #66 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #63 song_and_dance_man

re: #59 tblot

Hilary Clinton's sex appeal. What the heck is that

Muffer magnet.

ewww.

Being a lesbian trapped in a man's body, I must respectfully and fully disagree...

I hadn't heard that word before but now I think I know what it means. Yecch!

re: #210 zombie

/The fact that I went to his hideout in Pakistan, and all I got was a lousy T-shirt.

He may be breathing - but he is not talking.

I vote 'effectively dead'.

re: #5 Perplexed

OK, yeah, I'm with the minority here but a variation on the theme. let me elaborate a little.

It's been theorized ( i havent seen the evidence supporting it) that the pics in these two new vids of OBL are photo shops of older images to make him look healthier and more fit. Now, if thats the case and i beleive it is (because the images are nearly identical with cosmetic changes and of such extreme brevity, supporting the idea its photoshopped together) then it would mean OBL is alive, but NOT in good health AT ALL.

It would mean, in fact, one of two things: He is either in extreme ill health and Al Qaeda is desperately trying to hide that fact, or that he is someplace where they just couldnt take imagery because it may reveal WHERE he is or give strong clues.

I think the second of those arguments is obviously the weaker, and the motive to hide him in case one is a lot stronger too.

I think the POS is sick, REAL sick, and probably with Renal Failure. Now, we all know Dr. Ayman Al-Zawahiri is a practicing MD, and we know atleast one other AQ HVT Tier 1 personality is also a practicing MD, but you know what? that doesn't mean he's gonna live forever. If the rumors of OBL having Renal Failure are true, and theyve been around a LONG time, then yeah, living in the tribal areas of pakistan cant be good for him. and even if he has access to the cities like rawalpindi or other closer cities, he can get food that will help him stay alive ( meaning it doesnt worsen his condition). and he can probably get dialysis pretty easily, cause they have money, doctors and access to a lot.

Problem is, IF its renal failure, dialysis only works so long. you are on borrowed time. IF its renal failure, the guy is dying.

Now, ALL this is speculation but based on some good info thats been around a while.

If he IS sick with renal failure, its EXTREMELY LIKELY he's bed ridden.
Thats probably why the images in these and all the last videos in the last, say, three years, were photoshopped and VOICEOVERS. yeah, thats right. i think these are VOICEOVERS, with photoshopped images to hide a VERY sick Osama, who is totally unable to appear on cam, but is still able to do a lot of TV watching, and Voice Recordings for As Sahab productions to turn into High-Quality Fakes.

This is MY take on it.

twombley

re: #210 zombie

ok, great, but can you give us evidence he's dead? no. so, stalemate. we just dont know. all we are doing here is speculating. and truth be told, your guess is just as good as mine, and vice versa.

twombley

OK, just read the thread below this one on the main page about the photoshopping done. yeah. maybe he IS dead. or maybe its a voice over. dunno what to make of the photo shopping besides to think its previously recorded video from around the time the 2004 video was taken, in order to make material for later use, just like this, and maybe they dyed his beard to make that less obvious.

I still think his voice is probably the one on the Video, but that he's sicker than hell with something and probably dying. It could be ANY illness but i think he's sick and doing voice overs for As-Sahab, while Al-Zawahiri and company try hard to keep him alive.

IF he's alive AND sick, i hope it is one painful, horrible, suffering condition that lingers to the last moment. i hope he suffers horribly til the end. Then, after he dies, may he rot in hell.

twombley

He has probably been dead for years.

Now, if our military happens to spot him in Iran or Syria and takes the military action – then I guess I would be OK if he were still alive;)

Here we need some Quantum Mechanics. This is a clear case of Schrödinger's Terrorist. He is both dead and alive at the same time. The poll should reflect this.

:-)

re: #17 Killgore Trout

re: #16 bekeld

*shrugs* Everyone will believe what they want to believe.

Not really, a lot of us really want to know the truth.

Yeah, but with Elvis working in that 7-11 in Nevada-will we ever really know? I find it hard to care. If he's dead, that's good-if he's alive, that's good cause we can kill him.
Happy Rama-lama-ding-dong to all the ding dongs out there.

And more important, happy Roshashana to all our Jewish Lizards. Good health and peace in the coming year. {Particularly, Babbazee}

I'm with re: #23 christheprofessor... with a slight variation:

Ron Paul?

Whomever is producing these OBL videos should let the guys at Jib-Jab do the next one, theirs are livelier...

"...'es nothing but a bearded budgie technologically nailed to the screen of my telly..."

-S-

The bigger question here is whether or not Ron Paul is dead.

Here's a way to keep thos Osama blockbusters coming for as long as the electricty flows:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,296616,00.html

Read all the way through to get information on customized robotic heads. Probably much nicer than Osama's real head.

OldLineTexan

Wait a minute!

The CIA told us the videos were real.
Shouldn't that simplify our vote?
Or complicate it?

You forgot to add an entry for "Ron Paul"

I never vote without it...

re: #202 hous bin pharteen

When you die at the Palace,
You really die at the Palace.

HOW, Part 1

OBL has been dead since Tora Bora. He's in a collapsed cave in Afghanistan, and will be discovered by archeologists in the year 3297 when the dissolved religion of islam will be a distant memory, making the notion of jihad seem a quaint and mildly interesting historical footnote.

The Osama Returns video, full of John Kerry talking points, released just before the 2004 elections, was created by American lefties in the "entertainment" industry, who were so clueless that they didn't understand that having the enemy parroting your mantras was not ever going to win you any converts.

All other videos and audio of Osama since the end of 2001 were reedited old clips and sometimes stills of the dead mass murderer, with added spoken word added after the fact to make it appear "recent." Very clumsily produced, actually. Even this new one, which the media promotes as Osama talking about recent events, is an obvious remix with a new soundtrack. Lazy media.

But the CIA always proclaims these things to be authentic. Just like they claimed a lot of things that turned out to not be true.

If anything, having to fake a video of their leader shows that the jihadis really, really want Osama to make a video. And if they have to fake it to accomplish that, that confirms more than anything that he's pushing up mushrooms. (Caves are too dark for daisies.)

Thank you for giving a straightforward poll instead of one that MSNBC would provide. They'd ask the question like this:

Do you believe Osama bin Laden is alive?

Answer 1: He's dead.
Answer 2: There is a good chance he's dead.
Answer 3: Maybe.
Answer 4: No.

I rarely see a poll they do where they to not appear to try to split a positive response in half for, what I believe to be, erroneous reporting purposes.

re: #230 Korla Pundit

But the CIA always proclaims these things to be authentic. Just like they claimed a lot of things that turned out to not be true.

The CIA proclaims the videos to be authentic. I have a collection of (pre-DVD) "authentic videos".

Potent subterfuge with inherent deniability.

Neat rhetorical trick, that.

Charles, there's something wrong with your code. The Vote button was grayed out with the message that I had already voted. No one on this computer voted in that poll. I am 100% sure of it.

TsF

I think he may be alive but very ill. Certainly the pictures of him in the video do not show a virile leader. The droopy eye indicates some serious problems. I suspect that they got what shots of him that they could and recorded the speech for a voice over.

If I'm right, I also hope the SOB is suffering every moment of every day. I also hope we can get a line on him and toast his a$$ good. I don't want him alive; I want him dead.

Once again, I voted before I logged in

re: #233 tsflanagan

Theearlier poll was also hinky

Ron Paul!

(Is he alive or dead - or just a figment of everyone's imaginations?)

I guess the ron paulies are cheating this poll too.