MoveOn Right on, Rudy!

The WEAKLING authorities ignored the law when the NYT released confidential information on terrorist finance tracking, so why go after them now?

There's no way the "old gray lady" is going to give anyone on the center-right a discount on an ad. Pinchy will probably charge them double.

NYT = FAIL

Rudy is a leader.

Why would Rudy advertise in a rag that nobody reads?

The Gray Lady is Gramscian Whore.

And this surprises people how?

LMAO @ Rudy. Paraphrasing- the clinton's have "not the most direct way" of saying what they mean to say.

Go get 'em Uncle Jimbo!

When's the new full page Al Qaeda ad coming out in the NY Times?

OT

Tech question!

You know how some Web sites, instead of giving you an email address to contact them with, give you a "Web contact form" that you can fill out and then click "submit", which then commands the browser to send them a Web-based email?

Well, my question is: is there any way to find out the actual email address to which your submission was sent? Any way to reverse-engineer it and extract the recipient's email from the process?

I say the FEC should require them to provide all the candidates with this kind of discount. I would be the end of that kind of nonsense by any media outlet. May not vote for Rudy in the end, but I'm with him on this one. The most vile hateful thing I've seen. To think they killed a bunch of trees to print it is even more insulting. ALGORE should protest them.

The law does not apply to the New York Times...they are the voice of the people...and above the law.

Don't know about the rest of you, but Rudy lost ALL credibility with me by saying illegal aliens are not criminals when they broke our laws by sneaking in here.

In this day and age, how do these people think this kind of stuff will remain hidden? Honestly, I understand the NYT does not care about their rep, but everytime something like this comes to light their subscription rate takes another negative hit. Can't they see this? Or maybe is it they just don't care?

ALERT: Cops Order News Choppers From Shooting Scene [Link: www.foxnews.com...]

re: #12 zombie

OT

Tech question!

You know how some Web sites, instead of giving you an email address to contact them with, give you a "Web contact form" that you can fill out and then click "submit", which then commands the browser to send them a Web-based email?

Well, my question is: is there any way to find out the actual email address to which your submission was sent? Any way to reverse-engineer it and extract the recipient's email from the process?

No, not if the actual email address is only contained in the server-side script that processes the form submission.

Moveon.org was created to do just this kind of thing legally - support the mainstream Democrat opinion while allowing real Democrats to disavow the content. I wish Blackfive well, but as long as the ad doesn't support or attack an actual declared candidate, it's legal.

The old grey lady's underwear is showing and it aint pretty.

Yeah, Giuliani will get the discount.

IF he offers an ad that explains how Bushitler, Cheney and the Halliburton gang invented the whole War on Terror to help out Bushitler's oil-rich buddies and give the Administration a big boost in the polls by making Bushitler a wartime president.

Otherwise, no discount.

re: #12 zombie

It depends on the code they used to generate the email. In most cases, no, but if they just used something simple, you might be able to view the source of the page and extract it. But that's a big, big if.

It's times like this when I remember why I'm on Team Rudy.

re: #18 Charles

Some hosting sites have a premade script and the individual using it just has to pass the email address as a variable to the script. So in some cases you can find it. Not often, but every once in a while.

Unless members of the Sulzberger/Ochs family decide to protect their patrimony by removing their incompetent cousin, something of a Greek tragedy will play itself out at the company, and it will be devoured by Pinch's lethal combination of hubris, youthful political obsessions, and lack of business acumen.

-Thomas Lifson is the editor and publisher of American Thinker.

re: #6 Shug

It's a great strategy. After the dems complete their plan to allow all criminals and dead people a vote (or 2 or 3 apiece), the plan is to go for the animal right to vote. There would be a decent chance that puppies in potty training and caged birds would read what they are poopin on. Rudy just might get something positive out of an artfully placed ad.

all the news that fits our agenda, we print?

Leftist scum desecrate a US flag at a 9/11 memorial

DISCLAIMER Those with high blood pressure or medical conditions worsened by extreme moonbat-induced anger should not watch

PS: some language also

Maybe the NYT wouldn't be losing money if they weren't giving away advertising to the moonbats.

Let's not overreact- I'm sure the NYT would cut a similar deal for the Minutemen, Move America Forward or the NRA if they so desired to place a full-page ad in their fine and not-hemmoraging money publication.

/tags still go here, right?

Wow, after listening to Rudy speak, I am now back on the Rudy train to victory.

Thank you Rudy for speaking so eloquently about the despicable tactics of the Leftist/Democrat/Marxist/Nutjobs!

I also liked the next article on the site that discusses Hilary's choice of Sandy Berger for her national security team. A disgrace!

Washington, 13 Sept. (AKI) - US President George Bush warned North Korea last year against transferring nuclear material to Syria, Iran or a terrorist organisation, saying such a move would be perceived as a "grave threat," according to a former senior government official.

In a telephone conversation with the Israeli daily, Haaretz, former US ambassador to the UN, John Bolton, said Bush had issued the warning because the administration feared North Korea could be using Syria and Iran as "safe havens" for its nuclear activity.

[Link: www.adnkronos.com...]

re: #32 SpartanWoman

I also liked the next article on the site that discusses Hilary's choice of Sandy Berger for her national security team. A disgrace!

Not so fast. Sandy Berger could be useful in conducting intelligence-gathering operations in foreign capitals by virtue of his extremely capacious socks.

At Google Video, one of the 'popular' videos is called "Islam, Purpose of Life Version 2" by Shayk Khalid Yasin.

Do we know anything about this guy?

I also find it hard to believe that a lot of people would be so interested in an hour and 47 minute video of why Islam is the purpose of life to get it on the 'most popular' list.

isn't the discount a "like-kind" donation. It has to be disclosed as such, iirc. Are corporations allowed to exceed the 2300.00 limit under McCain-feingold. Are corporations allowed to doante at all. Can the "soft-money" veil be pierced and the MoveOn entity is a front for the Democrat party, DNC? If so then does not the $102K dscount violate federal election laws.
and both NYT and the DNC and be toasted?

re: #32 SpartanWoman

Hilary's choice of Sandy Berger for her national security team

What she doesn't know is that he no longer has anything in his pants.

Blackfive's action is BEAUTIFUL. An individual citizen CAN petition a federal agency to correct a blatantly unfair and illegal action by a big corporation on behalf of a traitorous political action gang.

As a former prosecutor, my guess is Rudy understands full well that the discount is considered a campaign donation and subject to the laws that apply to that particular type of donation. I'm no lawyer, but I don't think Rudy would play that card unless he knew he is was correct.
As a test to see how valid it is, stand by and see how many lawyers come out of the woodwork in droves to appear as talking heads and opinion piece authors defending the discount in the next few days.

re: #32 SpartanWoman

Holy God, you're KIDDING. Sandy Berger? I bet this is his pre-negotiated payment for that Archives theft.

re: #32 SpartanWoman
Sandy Burgler must have something on Shrillery. Even some libs I know didn't like the deal Burgler cut with the Feds over his little senior moment (stuffing itchy, scratchy stuff down various pieces of clothing - eeuuww).

I guess it's balanced by Wafa Sultan whooping some major ass with a posting by MEMRI!

Nice!

Oh for Pete's sake...moonbats never stop flying...

..TEHRAN -- Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has told an American professor that he can be buried in the historic town of Isfahan in central Iran, the semi-official Mehr news agency said Thursday.

Richard Nelson Frye, aged 87, professor at the Iran and Central Asia Studies Center at Harvard University, wrote to the Iranian president seeking his permission, the agency said.

Frye told Ahmadinejad he had spent his life making known the culture and civilization of ancient Iran and Islamic Iran, and had always loved Isfahan. He wanted to be buried there, to show the indestructible links between the Iranian and American people.

The Iranian leader said the request showed: "the desire of two peoples for justice, monotheism, and humanitarian and divine values."

He added: "While hoping for a long life for this dear professor, who has consecrated his life to making known the ancient heritage of our culture ... and Islamic culture, we must ensure that this request be granted."

[Link: www.metimes.com...]

re: #18 Charles

No, not if the actual email address is only contained in the server-side script that processes the form submission.

Shucks!

Oh well, it was worth a try.

Thx for the info.

re: #37 Cap'n DOC

What he has in his pants is the truth about his burglary. A powerful tool against the Clintons.

re: #11 DesertSage

When's the new full page Al Qaeda ad coming out in the NY Times?

Haven't you seen them? I believe the NYT calls them the "front page" and editorial section...

The suspect in the Miami police shootings has just been completely changed. The guy they were after wasn't even in Miami today. Live on Fox now.

How can the NYT claim any objectivity? I don't read it very much, except when they step in it, but are they even trying anymore?

re: #15 Bob in Breckenridge

Bob, he was speaking in technical terms. He stated that it's a misdemeanor and that we don't prosecute; we deport (supposedly).

Syrian & North Korean mischief goes back a while,

In 2004, returning from a trip to Beijing, there was a massive explosion at a North Korean border crossing, just hours after Kim's train transited that location. Some South Korean analysts believe the blast was a failed assassination plot; however, some media reports indicate that Syrian military technicians died in the explosion, suggesting that it might have been related to some sort of WMD project between Damascus and Pyongyang. Security was reportedly tight as Kim's train crossed the North Korea-China border yesterday; it will probably be even tighter on the return trip.

re: #15 Bob in Breckenridge

Not a Rudy man myself,but if you listen to his explanation what he was saying is deportation hearings are civil and not criminal cases.

Nice discount, with business practices like this, no wonder NYT is a stock i wouldn't buy with other people's money. Way to go, Pinch. Keep this up. NYT may be bankrupt someday.

re: #48 peck

The suspect in the Miami police shootings has just been completely changed. The guy they were after wasn't even in Miami today. Live on Fox now.

This story is so strange

re: #6 Shug

Why would Rudy advertise in a rag that nobody reads?

Force the NYT to give the discount to everyone, and bankrupt them.

/they're already morally bankrupt

re: #46 squarepeg

re: #37 Cap'n DOC

What he has in his pants is the truth about his burglary. A powerful tool against the Clintons.

I don't wanna know anything about Sandy Berger's tool.

/he is a tool, though

The left is getting desperate and lashing out like a cornered animal. The mud has not even started to be slung.

He just happened to drop a phony I.D. that led the cops on the wrong path for hours...I don't buy it.

Did Hillary really decide to (re)associate herself with ol' docs in socks?

Hsu knew that she could be so foolish?

re: #41 squarepeg

And she can't find ANYBODY else on the planet for that job? But for a Bush Justice dept. cave-in on this one, Burglar would be a convicted felon. Hill really does keep company with a slimy crowd (and no, I don't mean lizards).
Maybe it is just the residual effects of Watergate, but damn, WTF is going on here? As my dad would say: who is doing who and who is gettin' the 2 cents?

re: #56 Ward Cleaver

Yikes. I walked right into that. "Tool in his pants," indeed.

re: #54 storagemanager

Yeah. Actually sounds like a case of stolen/appropriated identity. The first suspect was actually in Jacksonville today. Really strange.

General Petraeus = General Betray Us.

How droll. Seriously why does everything have to rhyme with these idiots?

Oh, and good for Rudy for responding quickly and clearly. I have a feeling that if he is our next POTUS, we won't have to wonder too long about how and when we will respond when we are slandered or attacked.

Miami-Dade County Mayor Carlos Alvarez, a former police officer, said the "extremely violent" suspect "assassinated" a police officer.

"We need to find him as soon as possible and make sure that he's behind bars, where he belongs," Alvarez said.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

re: #63 Dirk Diggler

Because they retain many childlike qualities. One of which is to reduce everything to a simple game. And I am speaking of very young children here, under say the age of 3.

I would bet money this Hillary/Berger thing is blackmail. He didn't save her husband's sorry-ass reputation and risk a felony conviction for nothing.

/little did any of them know how limp the Bush DOJ would be

re: #56 Ward Cleaver

Yah, and he no longer has a license to practice 'law', either. What good is he with nothing in his pants or his socks?

Boy, this will be a big hit with the local mosques in Toronto...

Gay Muslim documentary coming out at Toronto

TORONTO (Hollywood Reporter) - A documentary about Islam and homosexuality is vying for attention at the Toronto International Film Festival, where high-profile movies set in the Middle East are already making a splash.

"A Jihad For Love," which was six years in the making, follows gay and lesbian Muslims battling racial profiling and harassment after the September 11 attacks and subsequent attacks in London and Madrid.

heh.

It's a shame so many Republicans can't see that Giuliani- who among many other talents knows how to drive the New York Times crazy- is the only Republican that can save the party in 2008.

re: #51 Kenneth

Great find. I remember that incident. What do Iran, N. Korea, Syria and the other Jihad's have in common?

The destruction of Israel, the Western powers and the decline of the United States as a world power.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Lets not forget also the Korean war is still ongoing.

re: #68 Cap'n DOC

re: #56 Ward Cleaver

Yah, and he no longer has a license to practice 'law', either. What good is he with nothing in his pants or his socks?

His mouth still works...that's what the Clintons are afraid of.

re: #63 Dirk Diggler

A impulsive need to make "clang associations", or rhymes, is a recognized symptom of mania.

Um, the Miami thing- anybody know if it was a SJS? Because non-Muslims do sometimes snap and go out with guns. I recall a McDonalds on the US side of the Tijuana border, and the premier academic institution in the State of Texas, where non-Muslims went on shooting sprees.

Of course, I was convinced that the Beltway sniper was an angry white man, when we now know the sniper's name was Mohammad, so I rule nothing out.

re post #69

wow.
we have the first case of islamohomophobia

I wish I could say that I'm shocked that the NYT thought it could get away with this but, I'm not shocked.

re: #68 Cap'n DOC

re: #56 Ward Cleaver

Yah, and he no longer has a license to practice 'law', either. What good is he with nothing in his pants or his socks?

IIRC, he plea deal lets him reapply to the bar in 2009.

re: #74 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

I was convinced the shooter was a conservative christian and proud card carrying member of the NRA.

re: #63 Dirk Diggler

General Petraeus = General Betray Us.

How droll. Seriously why does everything have to rhyme with these idiots?

Because they're juvenile.

re: #78 CommonSense

re: #74 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

I was convinced the shooter was a conservative christian and proud card carrying member of the NRA.

Who voted for Bush

re: #17 storagemanager

? Odd?

re: #44 storagemanager

Oh for Pete's sake...moonbats never stop flying...

..TEHRAN -- Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has told an American professor that he can be buried in the historic town of Isfahan in central Iran, the semi-official Mehr news agency said Thursday.
Richard Nelson Frye, aged 87, professor at the Iran and Central Asia Studies Center at Harvard University, wrote to the Iranian president seeking his permission, the agency said.

Frye told Ahmadinejad he had spent his life making known the culture and civilization of ancient Iran and Islamic Iran, and had always loved Isfahan. He wanted to be buried there, to show the indestructible links between the Iranian and American people.

The Iranian leader said the request showed: "the desire of two peoples for justice, monotheism, and humanitarian and divine values."
He added: "While hoping for a long life for this dear professor, who has consecrated his life to making known the ancient heritage of our culture ... and Islamic culture, we must ensure that this request be granted."

[Link: www.metimes.com...]

Puleese... i'm gonna hurl.

Good for Guiliani!

As to the New Yuk Times fish wrap, Rudy is OVER-PAYING! But, given the Net's propensity to give Rudy this kind of FREE SPACE; whatever it costs, is worth every penny.

As to the Move-on goof balls; the one thing the Net has is "mileage." Just wait till U-Tube keeps the memories alive.

There was so much good stuff out there, that, believe me, anyone at home with time, and photo-chop-chop; and the knowhow to put something up on U-Tube; will delight us with the nonsense the Bonkeys permitted to happen inside the senate!

Wanna know how bad it could become? Try multiplying "hand-signals" in the men's toilet ...

With what happens when the "secret's out."

Because? Before, a man wouldn't be up-ended by his ankles; and dunked inside a toilet bowl, for "soliciting" a straight guy.

Do you know why? The straight guy would probably think he was being asked to "pass a few sheets of toilet paper."

Such non-verbal antics now have a life of their own.

And, sometimes? You bet, a man could want "something" from a guy who is cute and straight.

Which is why secret hand-gestures were born, in the first place.

And, just like that! After decades. EXPOSED.

If the Bonkeys think they did well spitting towards Petraeus; they're as stupid as the criminals who defaced the Vietnam Memorial. Sure. Late at night. Nobody's around. And, 2/3rds of the memorial are now all gunked up; with a destructive substance that defies removal.

Lest you forget.

re: #64 Jheka

Oh, and good for Rudy for responding quickly and clearly. I have a feeling that if he is our next POTUS, we won't have to wonder too long about how and when we will respond when we are slandered or attacked.

Not my favorite (as I have mentioned almost ad nauseum here before), but I'll have no problems pulling the lever (well, it is touchscreen voting now in my corner of Harris County) for Rudy if he is the GOP nominee.

re: #80 storagemanager

I'll add with stock in Haliburton...

re: #73 Kenneth

re: #63 Dirk Diggler

A impulsive need to make "clang associations", or rhymes, is a recognized symptom of mania.

Hey! I resemble that remark.
Blake and Whitman would like to say
they also take umbrage from beyond the grave.
Yes... they told me so, channeling the dead also being a recognized symptom of mania ...
;~}

re: #85 CommonSense

re: #80 storagemanager

I'll add with stock in Haliburton...

lol

Great, a hurricane that didn't exist until last night shut down some refineries and oil hit $80/barrel again. And guess what? the breaking news is that WE are going to pay for it. This startling bit of info. from Cavuto. The unrelenting effort to break the back of the middle class and throw the economy into a serious recession continues.

re: #86 BabbaZee
Don't forget your propensity toward neologisms! Another symptom!

re: #82 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #44 storagemanager

Oh for Pete's sake...moonbats never stop flying...

..TEHRAN -- Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has told an American professor that he can be buried in the historic town of Isfahan in central Iran, the semi-official Mehr news agency said Thursday.
Richard Nelson Frye, aged 87, professor at the Iran and Central Asia Studies Center at Harvard University, wrote to the Iranian president seeking his permission, the agency said. Frye told Ahmadinejad he had spent his life making known the culture and civilization of ancient Iran and Islamic Iran, and had always loved Isfahan. He wanted to be buried there, to show the indestructible links between the Iranian and American people.

The Iranian leader said the request showed: "the desire of two peoples for justice, monotheism, and humanitarian and divine values."
He added: "While hoping for a long life for this dear professor, who has consecrated his life to making known the ancient heritage of our culture ... and Islamic culture, we must ensure that this request be granted."

[Link: www.metimes.com...]

Puleese... i'm gonna hurl.

I have friends buried in Isfahan, they are in a small garden cemetery used by Christians and Jews. Beautiful spot.

This turd would spoil it.

re: #79 MandyManners

re: #63 Dirk Diggler

General Petraeus = General Betray Us.

How droll. Seriously why does everything have to rhyme with these idiots?

Because they're juvenile.

Hey, Hey, Ho, Ho, crappy liberal rhyming has got to go!

re: #89 ec marm

That's rite!

/

re: #86 BabbaZee

Babba, Thanks for the kind words.

The ole grey lady needs to be thrown in the wash with some bleach to remove the lefty stains.

Your kidding me...

GREENSPAN SAYS HE KNEW ABOUT ABUSES IN SUBPRIME LENDING BUT FAILED TO FORSEE THEIR PARALYZING MARKET EFFECTS UNTIL LATE 2005

by the way...Oil closes at over $80.00 a barrel for the first time ever. [Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

re: #88 peck

Great, a hurricane that didn't exist until last night shut down some refineries and oil hit $80/barrel again. And guess what? the breaking news is that WE are going to pay for it. This startling bit of info. from Cavuto. The unrelenting effort to break the back of the middle class and throw the economy into a serious recession continues.

When a hurricane hits oil refineries, and reduces refined product production, if supply and demand were previously balanced, if the price doesn't change, shortage will result.

Who should pay for it?

OT
Authors of Cambridge University Press Title Secure Rights to Their Banned Book

The authors of the book Alms for Jihad have regained rights to the book, which was pulped and put out of print by Cambridge University Press (CUP) after a Saudi sheik filed suit for libel in the UK, and are hoping to get it published in the U.S.

Sheikh Khalid bin Mahfouz filed the suit against CUP because the book links him with terrorist activities, claims which Cambridge called "manifestly false." The case has garnered the attention of government officials here in the US. PW sister publication Library Journal reports that coauthor Robert O. Collins spent most of last week in Washington, DC, invited by Congressman Frank Wolf (R-VA), where he addressed "some 20 senior figures from law enforcement, the intelligence community, and homeland security," on the entire affair. "Evidently, the government has been following this case in order to defend the rights of its citizens to write and publish without fear of Islamist intimidation," Collins said.

Earlier this week, Collins published his account of the "sordid and sorry saga" in an editorial on the History News Network web site. Collins reported that CUP sent letters to "280 libraries around the world asking them to withdraw the book or insert an erratum slip" and "pulped 2,340 existing copies." CUP also agreed to make a monetary payment and issued a stunning public apology. The authors, however, have refused to be part of any settlement. Collins repeated his coauthor Millard Burr's defense of their book: "Alms for Jihad had been meticulously researched, our interpretations judicious, our conclusions made in good faith on the available evidence."

They were upset about Enron, right?

re: #79 MandyManners

Because the Democratic Party stands for nothing. They have no national platform and have no concept of issues.

Just like the Democratic majority in Congress who won not by their policies but disinformation managment of Republic Campaigns and issues.

Does anyone have a link to Thompson's "due process for Bin Laden" comment? I'd like to see it in context.

Out of context, it sounds disturbingly Clintonian and reminds one of our suicidal response to the first WTC bombing. I'd like to think that Thompson does not subscribe to that discredited mindset.

re: #89 ec marm

Actually it is a propensity for protologisms...
(neologisms that have not yet caught on)
But I don't think that makes me any less nuts on the secular worldy nuts-o-rater.
lol

re: #93 jcm

My pleasure, IMO you earn 'em.

re: #88 peck

Walk!

My understanding is that supply is not the issue but refining the oil as the US in ancient in refining capability.

Anyone have info on this?

I wonder whether the NYT follows the same "family" discount practices during elections. I woudn't be surprised that money is going back and forth under the table.

Ever so off topically...

Iranian nuke site -

33 degrees 43" 32.12" N 51 degrees 43' 41.03" E Ringed with an inner security wall and an outer band of SAM-15 sites.

33 degrees 53" 10.79" N 51 degrees 43' 41.03" E SAM-2 site protecting the airfield that serves the above nuke site.

PICK
N
CHOOSE,
R

Someone needs to start a website encouraging people cancel their subscriptions and to boycott the advertisers of the NYT.

When someone boycotts an advertiser, a message will be sent to the company telling the CEO that they will not buy their products or services again until they stop supporting that anti-American newspaper. (A boycot works better if feedback is provided to the company).

And huzzah to Rudy who ALWAYS leads and never has to deign to follow, IMO this leads among his most admirable traits.

re: #88 peck

Hey Einstein get stock in oil companies! Record profits!

re: #103 CommonSense

Look for a poster named (I THINK this is the nic, or it's something very close)
Alberta Oil Peon

These are the same ones screaming about the need for a 'fairness doctrine'? Pot, meet Kettle

re: #28 Shug
I have to tell you, as one who lost a family member in this war, I would have kicked him off that flag and probably kicked his ass.
And I am a woman.

re: #96 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Yeah, I know. I was just bummed that one more thing jumps up to make life for the oppressed peasants a little more difficult. It's just been a bad week. I'll pay.
humbled peck

re: #100 Jheka

Remember, Fred's an actor. He probably forgot he was playing a presidential candidate, and thought he was back to playing the DA on Law & Order.

re: #103 CommonSense

Actually Cavuto (if I understood) explained that todays events were two different issues. 1) the hurricane and the refinery issue and 2) the price of crude is up.

re: #111 ArmyAunt

may God bless you and your family, i'm so sorry for your loss.

re: #108 CommonSense

If I weren't going broke buying gas, I would gladly take your expert advice. Thanks for the recommendation.

re: #103 CommonSense

That is true. The limits and restrictions on building a new refinery make the process take a huge amount of time as well as the astronomical costs involved.
The last new refinery was built in the US in 1976.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

re: #103 CommonSense

Well, there's a reason for the US' falling behind in refinery capacity - things like Jerry Brown, the California Attorney General, blackmailing one of the oil companies into paying $10 million before they even pay for expanding their refinery in Richmond.

re: #115 phoenixgirl
Thank you phoenix.
I know about free speech and all but my nephew didn't die so that scum like that guy could walk on our flag.

re: #111 ArmyAunt

re: #28 Shug
I have to tell you, as one who lost a family member in this war, I would have kicked him off that flag and probably kicked his ass.
And I am a woman.

These people make me so MAD! Why don't they try this shit in a muslim country or communist country and just see how far they get. Those black hoods would come in handy as they would be strung up and hanged.

Since it appears not to have been mentioned yet, let me point out some pretty careless and callous words John Boehner used in a CNN interview with Wolf Blitzer yesterday.

WOLF BLITZER: How much longer will U.S. taxpayers have to shell out $2 billion a week or $3 billion a week as some now are suggesting the cost is going to endure? The loss in blood, the Americans who are killed every month, how much longer do you think this commitment, this military commitment is going to require?

REP. JOHN BOEHNER: I think General Petraeus outlined it pretty clearly. We’re making success. We need to firm up those successes. We need to continue our effort here because, Wolf, long term, the investment that we’re making today will be a small price if we’re able to stop al Qaeda here, if we’re able to stabilize the Middle East, it’s not only going to be a small price for the near future, but think about the future for our kids and their kids.

So, Rep. Boehner, 5000 dead American servicemen and women, contractors, and journalists are a small price? Be more careful in your choice of words if you're going to go around criticizing others.'

re: #119 ArmyAunt

re: #115 phoenixgirl
Thank you phoenix.
I know about free speech and all but my nephew didn't die so that scum like that guy could walk on our flag.

Armyaunt. I think I'd be appalled if someone did that in front of me. A General that was asked to come on fox and talk about these types had the best answer. There was a pundit on the split screen with him too to present the *other side*.

They both were asked about what they think about the people who had nasty speech almost borderline traitorous language.

The pundit quipped...It's free speech and that is why blood is shed for it and I would die for their right to say it. I bet that guy has never even had anyone be in the armed forces and has no clue the impact of that statement.

The General answered...I don't fight for those types of people, I do what I do for the patriotic Americans. Basically in essence, those traitors could kiss it. I could tell he wanted to really rip them haha...but he was so controlled in his answer.

So now, if I hear people talk about free speech about crapping on the flag or saying how much they hate america, I use his answer...I'd never die for THEIR right to tear America apart, I would however die for others' that love America. Let the traitors fend for themselves!

$65,000 VS $181,692 ?

That's a 65% discount.

No wonder the NYT business is going to hell in a handbasket.

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Once again, the moonbat influenced, New York Slimes proves themselves to be lesser than the fungus that grows on pond scum. Even though MorOn.org paid for this ad, (at a discounted rate not given other vendors) The NY Slimes still has editorial responsiblity when it comes to anything they publish. To print something like this about a career military man who has given his life to serve his country proves that The New York Slimes editorial staff shares the same opinions as the low-lifes at Moron.Org. As far as I'm concerned, anything Moron.Org says, does, or publishes should be burned at the stake.

re: #66 peck

re: #63 Dirk Diggler

Because they retain many childlike qualities. One of which is to reduce everything to a simple game. And I am speaking of very young children here, under say the age of 3.

That would explain their stupid 'Hey-hey, ho-ho...' chants at protests.

..TEHRAN -- Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has told an American professor that he can be buried in the historic town of Isfahan in central Iran, the semi-official Mehr news agency said Thursday.

Yeah, too bad they'll need pick axes to get through the smoking sheet of glass...

Liberal newspapers run daily anti-Republican cartoons on their editorial pages. I wonder how much John Kerry would have had to pay if he had to buy a daily bash-Bush cartoon in, say the Mpls Star Tribune (2nd largest circulation newspaper in the Midwest and plains states...behind Chicago Tribune) during the 2004 campaign.

The advantage the liberals get is enormous.

re: #125 Cygnus

And the pink costumes outside of halloween and ballet recitals.

The NYT is hemorrhaging money right and left, but Pinch Sulzburger has such a monumental case of BDS that he brazenly throws away advertising money to advance his agenda.

It's time to put the Grey Lady in the nursing home; obviously she has a terminal disease.

Now can we say they're biased?

re: #28 Shug

Leftist scum desecrate a US flag at a 9/11 memorial

DISCLAIMER Those with high blood pressure or medical conditions worsened by extreme moonbat-induced anger should not watch

PS: some language also

Come to a small town in Texas and do that—please... "They died in a car wreck. ... No. I don't know how a car wreck left them with numerous gunshot wounds. ... The coroner, the county sheriff and the county judge all say it was a car wreck..." We'd show them fascist.

re: #110 zandtar

These are the same ones screaming about the need for a 'fairness doctrine'? Pot, meet Kettle

That is exactly what I was going to say. But you know this 'doctrine' will only apply to media sources, where the democrats are not represented in a favorable way.

But hey, none of this means that the NYT has a liberal bias! (chuckle)

And what's more, none of this sheds any doubt, whatsoever, on liberals' "support" of the troops! (chuckle)

re: #113 Dianna

re: #100 Jheka

Remember, Fred's an actor. He probably forgot he was playing a presidential candidate, and thought he was back to playing the DA on Law & Order.

That's what I'm afraid of.

Who knows, Maybe Soros also sent along some leftover oil vouchers along with the cash.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Notice it does not say that Congress can not make a law abridging the freedom of marketing firms. The NYT is not "Press" in a traditional sense. Its just an advertising firm for the global leftist movement. As such, the NYT ought to be forced to comply with the rules in Section 5 of the Federal Trade Commision Act that prohibit unfair or deceptive advertising just like all the other advertising firms out there.

And I'm not talking about the Moveitonover.org ad, I'm talking about their reporting.

re: #53 chicagodudewhotrades

Yeah I made some decent money in early '06 shorting NYT. You need to get out quickly , wait for a bit and short again. I stopped at the end of last year because rumors were flying around about big shots buying the name. Like what happened to the WSJ. But I'm sharpening my knives right now and looking at the succulent beast. Its bound to pop back up from this 4 month drop and then time to short it.

That admission of the ad rate will cost them dearly with there cash cows.

This discount seems to be the absolute epitomy of an "in kind" contribution.

Giving someone something of substantial value and not making them pay for it is the same as a cash gift.

This fact is so remedial that I am astonished that no one is pointing it out.

re: #28 Shug

Oh My. That was just scary. Disgusting and scary.

It is funny that they subsidize this incredibly scurrilous ad, & the Move on drops a dime on them by outing them.
We used to use the NY Times to line the bird cage
We had to stop because the bird threatened to leave home if we didn't

re: #28 Shug

Shug,
That's because they can say "fuck" on film! Wow, their parents must be so proud.
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Fairness Doctrine for talk radio, but not for the rest of the MSM, I see.

The New York Times ad that size normally runs about 180 thousand dollars, but they gave it to moveon.org for 60 thousand, because they agreed with what the ad said: it questioned General Petraeus' patriotism and accused him of treason, calling him "General Betray Us".

By covering 2/3 of the cost of that ad, essentially The New York Times itself placed that ad denouncing the patriotism of our commander in Iraq.

What is even worse, none of the Democrat candidates has denounced the content of that ad, which accuses General Petraeus of "cooking the books", and accuses him of being unpatriotic and of betraying our country. Hillary Clinton has not denounced the content of the ad; Barack Obama has not denounced the content of the ad; John Edwards has not denounced the content of the ad.

These Dem candidates for President of the USA and Commander in Chief of our armed forces refuse to put any separation between themselves and the content of this ad denouncing the patriotism of General Petraeus, because they want to stay in the pockets of the radical Left, in the pockets of moveon.org extremists, and of the nutroots community of the extreme Left.

Media bias isn't just in the US, it's here in Canada too.

Check out [Link: www.globeandmail.com...] for it's top story entitled "Bush to announce the obvious". What is the obvious you may ask? That Bush is bringing back 30000 troops.

A Frightening read:
The Worst School In America

Why are we giving F**kOn.org attention? They're total patsies who would gladly let jihadists in the United States with the free reins to spread terror and think they're wonderful and peaceful.

Also, do your research on the real power behind MoveOn.org, folks.

George Soros.

New York Times gave move on a deep deep discount?

LOL,

no wonder they are going broke

Every bit as surprising as the Woodstock promoter sneaking $40m to the Clintons.

I'm a little late to the LGF party, but here's the citation from the FEC regulations.

re: #28 Shug

I am in the military and defend their right of free speech... but that doesn't mean they don't suck and need their asses severely kicked.

defensor fortis

The NYSlimes has devolved into such a propaganda rag, I wouldn't line my bird's cage with it...not even during a bout of intense birdie diarrhea. Wouldn't want to risk tainting the bird.

Good for Rudy!

re: #15 Bob in Breckenridge

You know he's accurate though, right? It is not a criminal offense to either enter or be in the US 'illegally'. It is only a misdemeanor to enter illegally and there is no law on the books stating that it is illegal to be here afterwards.

I don't like the fact that that's the law, but you shouldn't take it out on Rudy for telling the truth.

Go Rudy. Not surprising that Hil is controlled by BowelMovement.org (a more appropriate name than MoveOn.org). Her ideology is more important than the welfare of the US.