Wow, seriously uncalled for.

Wow.

The MSM would be hyperventilating if President Bush were tazering people at his speeches.

But Charles, Michelle has an update on this. Seems this poor moonbat was mad 'cause he didn't get the time to talk to Mr. Kerry. He rushed the stage. Lucky being tased was all he got.

How come nobody used a taser on code pink protesters at congress last week?

Statistically, about 10% of the audience was Tased.

Halp hym, Jon Carry.

"Don't taser me, Bro'...Aaaahhh!"
I love videos like this, you can just rewind over and over...

Sorry!

Linky: [Link: michellemalkin.com...]

see the update

Reminds me of the time when my son was very young and had a toothache -- tried to give him some children's asprin, but he just kept kicking and screaming "Tastes yucky!" "Tastes Yucky!"

I wonder if the cops will be charged with assault and moonbat-tery

/hahhahaha

re: #1 TeamDub

Get all the facts first.

He deserved it.

I don't agree with what this guy did (disrupting a meeting), but I don't approve of the way that the cops handled it.

Tasering should only be used when there is a threat to an employee of the security detail...not when they want someone to do what they want done.

I'm telling you, Lizards: think this one through.

First they tasered moonbats and I said nothing...

Think it through.

~Norsk Troll

/the cops should be charged with assault.

*pulls the pin and throws it in*

Responses?

Sorry for ot so soon:

Times to Stop Charging for Parts of Its Web Site

The New York Times will stop charging for access to parts of its Web site, effective at midnight Tuesday night.

The move comes two years to the day after The Times began the subscription program, TimesSelect, which has charged $49.95 a year, or $7.95 a month, for online access to the work of its columnists and to the newspaper’s archives. TimesSelect has been free to print subscribers to The Times and to some students and educators.

In addition to opening the entire site to all readers, The Times will also make available its archives from 1987 to the present without charge, as well as those from 1851 to 1922, which are in the public domain. There will be charges for some material from the period 1923 to 1986, and some will be free.

The Times said the project had met expectations, drawing 227,000 paying subscribers — out of 787,000 over all — and generating about $10 million a year in revenue.

“But our projections for growth on that paid subscriber base were low, compared to the growth of online advertising,” said Vivian L. Schiller, senior vice president and general manager of the site, NYTimes.com.

What changed, The Times said, was that many more readers started coming to the site from search engines and links on other sites instead of coming directly to NYTimes.com. These indirect readers, unable to get access to articles behind the pay wall and less likely to pay subscription fees than the more loyal direct users, were seen as opportunities for more page views and increased advertising revenue.

“What wasn’t anticipated was the explosion in how much of our traffic would be generated by Google, by Yahoo and some others,” Ms. Schiller said.

The Times’s site has about 13 million unique visitors each month, according to Nielsen/NetRatings, far more than any other newspaper site. Ms. Schiller would not say how much increased Web traffic the paper expects by eliminating the charges, or how much additional ad revenue the move was expected to generate.

Those who have paid in advance for access to TimesSelect will be reimbursed on a prorated basis.

Colby Atwood, president of Borrell Associates, a media research firm, said that there have always been reasons to question the pay model for news sites, and that doubts have grown along with Web traffic and online ad revenue.

“The business model for advertising revenue, versus subscriber revenue, is so much more attractive,” he said. “The hybrid model has some potential, but in the long run, the advertising side will dominate.”

In addition, he said, The Times has been especially effective at using information it collects about its online readers to aim ads specifically to them, increasing their value to advertisers.

Many readers lamented their loss of access to the work of the 23 news and opinion columnists of The Times — as did some of the columnists themselves. Some of those writers have such ardent followings that even with access restricted, their work often appeared on the lists of the most e-mailed articles.

Experts say that opinion columns are unlikely to generate much ad revenue, but that they can drive a lot of reader traffic to other, more lucrative parts of The Times site, like topic pages devoted to health and technology.

Well, at least one good thing comes of this. The left got a taste what it is like to have America’s Hitler Youth interrupt a political gathering. This kid could have been wearing a Code Pink Shirt.

Doesn’t matter whether it was Kerry or not to me. When time was up, the kid should have shut his mouth and sat down. Once he started resisting, that big black cop should have walked him out the door and administered the black jack to the back of the head.

No need for arrest since the jails are too full already. Just beat the snot out of him. It does wonders for opening the mind to civility.

Moonbat: "what did I do?"

Reality: "get a clue and grow up, moron."

re: #4 RedDish

But Charles, Michelle has an update on this. Seems this poor moonbat was mad 'cause he didn't get the time to talk to Mr. Kerry. He rushed the stage. Lucky being tased was all he got.

Watch the video -- he did not rush the stage. He did, however, struggle with the police, which is never a great idea.

Sometimes a good ol' "wooden shampoo" is the only thing that makes a dent on thck-headed moonbats. I think the police used remarkable restraint when faced with this recalcitrant tantrum thrower.

"Can't we all just get along...whine".

If you fight the police, expect the worse.

PIMF

"...and throws it into the discussion*

~ENT

"Help Me! Help Me! Help Me!"

Suggestion for future reference: Argue the merits of a cop restraining you AFTERWARDS - not during.

John "Lurch" Kerry says can I be next I might perk me up a bit.

So, this guy was to the moonbat left of Kerry.
LOL.
Right on the heels of Kos' site claiming Lamont could have beat Lieberman any other day but election day.

re: #3 Black George Bush

The MSM would be hyperventilating if President Bush were tazering people at his speeches.

I'd pay money to see GWB taze a moonbat.

re: #8 rawmuse

"Don't taser me, Bro'...Aaaahhh!"
I love videos like this, you can just rewind over and over...

"Dont tase me, Bro"

It never enters there head if they stopped acting like a shithead (or didnt act like one in the first place) they wouldn't be getting zapped.

Stupidity should be painful.

Wow. This is the third video of this I have seen. At least three cameras caught this.

The longer video shows him, near the end, screaming that "they are going to kill me!" (The Taser didnt seem to relax him too mcuh)

http://video.nbc6.net/player/?id=157250

"Help me, John Effin' Carry, you're our only hope--" *blip*

"Help me, John Effin' Carry, you're our only hope--" *blip*

"Help me, John Effin' Carry, you're our only hope--" *blip*

/certainly not Obi-Wan Kenobi

I'm shocked by this behavior! Truly shocked.
/

Immature, self-absorbed moonbat throws a public tantrum, refuses order to desist, warned not to continue throwing tantrum or he'll be tasered, gets tasered when he keeps thrashing around.

Recipe for protest. Ooh boy.

:^þ

Notice how Lurch kept droning on the whole time? What a dope.

re: #29 victor_yugo

"Help me, John Effin' Carry, you're our only hope--" *blip*

"Help me, John Effin' Carry, you're our only hope--" *blip*

"Help me, John Effin' Carry, you're our only hope--" *blip*

/certainly not Obi-Wan Kenobi

ROFLMAO!

re: #29 victor_yugo

LOL...

It brings a smile to my face to see one barking mad moonbat turn on another barking mad moonbat.

Kragar -

Uncalled for regardless of moonbattery. Do I get some twisted satisfaction seeing (and hearing) that twit get tazered?

Yes.

Was it appropriate?

From what I saw, no.

Pretty simple.

Charles,
The video shows cops already standing behind this student. The update on Michelle's blog mentioned that the video started after he rushed the stage. When I checked back at her blog, there was that additional update from the Hopkins grad, so there are two different stories being passed around. Sorry I wasn't clearer.

**grin**

re: #6 EC Marm

Statistically, about 10% of the audience was Tased.

The poll said that 1 Billion were tased.

Well, if he rushed the stage then he's lucky a little jolt is all he got.

OT- speaking of moon bats.

Reading The Pictures: Bush Hype And The Loss Of Sheikh

Her is the laugh line.

My question is, did George Bush effectively "off" an ally -- and even undermine his Anbar strategy -- for the sake of the "surge sale" and a single photo-op?

/such nice questions they as a Huffpo.

The guy was acting like a real jerk -- he deserved it. He is known to them apparently, and he wasn't interested in answers, just acting like an immature prick.

re: #15 EtNorskTroll

Police are fully within their right to tase a suspect when said suspect is in the process of being taken into custody and refuses to do so per their instructions, especially after being warned of the consequences numerous times!

So many moonbats, so few brains.

re: #35 TeamDub

Kragar -

Uncalled for regardless of moonbattery. Do I get some twisted satisfaction seeing (and hearing) that twit get tazered?

Yes.

Was it appropriate?

From what I saw, no.

Pretty simple.

I agree with you, TeamDub.

Do we really want to turn a blind eye to this kind of stuff, Lizards?

What about when Hitlary gets into office next year? If her goons start tazering us when we protest her forcing medical insurance on everyone in America, we won't have any moral ground to stand on.

Be very, very careful, Lizards.

After they are done tazering people you don't like, they may come after you, next, for doing something they didn't like.

~Norsk Troll

re: #15 EtNorskTroll

I don't agree with what this guy did (disrupting a meeting), but I don't approve of the way that the cops handled it.

Tasering should only be used when there is a threat to an employee of the security detail...not when they want someone to do what they want done.

I'm telling you, Lizards: think this one through.

First they tasered moonbats and I said nothing...

Think it through.

~Norsk Troll

/the cops should be charged with assault.

*pulls the pin and throws it in*

Responses?

They were not cops, they were security guards. The person was asked to leave, pulled gently, pushed, shoved, dragged... If he didnt' get it by then he deserved the Tasering.

I'm going to fall back on my days as a bar bouncer -- a drunk patron acting this bad in a bar would receive much worse than a tasering. He's at a public gathering, but the owners and the custodians of the property have the right to use reasonable force to remove unruly people.

He was tasered in a fashion reminiscent of Jenjis Kahn...

The KosKidz are going absolutely apeshit over this...but a lot of them fail to understand this individual was resisting arrest.
They claim this is proof of the totalitarian police state we live in...uh maybe when youre on two hits of LSD
But in the real world, when the police ask you to leave and you refuse, and they try to escort you out but you throw a hissy fit and try and wrestle away from them, you are giving them every reason on earth to tase you into submission.

re: #35 TeamDub

Was it appropriate?

From what I saw, no.

Pretty simple.

The cops tell you to comply and warn you, like various accounts said they did before the various videos and edits started popping, then you shut up and comply. Otherwise, you get what you deserve. He was lucky they use tasers now. Another time it would have been night sticks and submission (choke) holds.

I knew J-effn'-K was just another fascist chimp ...

re: #26 Harry Tuttle

re: #3 Black George Bush

The MSM would be hyperventilating if President Bush were tazering people at his speeches.

I'd pay money to see GWB taze a moonbat.

great way to raise campaign funds

taser some guy/woman in a hillary, edwards, obama mask. - okay, we might have to leave out obama because that might be called racist.

re: #36 RedDish

Charles,
The video shows cops already standing behind this student. The update on Michelle's blog mentioned that the video started after he rushed the stage. When I checked back at her blog, there was that additional update from the Hopkins grad, so there are two different stories being passed around. Sorry I wasn't clearer.

That account says he rushed to the microphone as soon as the Q&A started -- not that he rushed the stage.

re: #15 EtNorskTroll

Look at the police in the video. They consist of undersized women and overweight men. Of course they had to reach for the Taser.

/Just tired of the taxation/the huge local police expense/ and seeing fat cops all the damn time

re: #47 TeamDub

LOL!

I hate to admit it, but I enjoyed that. The good guys won.

Aside from that, notice how those two cops (or maybe they were just security guards) who first attempted to restrain the guy where completely ineffective? He could wiggle away from both of them, even when one cop had some sort of arm-hold on him. It wasn't until the really big cop stepped in, that the guy was taken down. And even then, it took a long time for a group of about five cops to get cuffs on him and taze him in order to be able to take him away. So my question: was the guy on drugs, or were the cops/guards just not very good at it?

"Dont tase me, Bro"

Perhaps a new rotating title Charles?

"May I suggest using your nightsticks, officers?"

/Billy Ray Valentine

re: #9 RedDish

He even has his own webpage: [Link: www.theandrewmeyer.com...]

What a loon.

re: #43 wolverine20

re: #15 EtNorskTroll

Police are fully within their right to taze a suspect when said suspect is in the process of being taken into custody and refuses to do so per their instructions, especially after being warned of the consequences numerous times!

And you're good with that, Wolverine?

Torturing people with electricity that don't comply with orders, even after 6 guys are on top of him?

/just askin'...

~ENT

he might not have had it coming but what a jerk!

re: #52 Charles

You're right, my bad. But he had the "cops in pursuit", so there was something going on. They must've had a reason to be worried about this guy.

The whole world's watching, bro!

re: #52 Charles

he rushed the mic and refused to stop asking questions, he was attempting to turn Kerrys speech into his own personal Q&A.

I love how he calls the black cop "bro."

"Don't tase me, Homey G!"

re: #52 Charles

The mics are right in front of the stage, no?

It continues outside the lecture hall.

Full on Drama Bat

That account says he rushed to the microphone as soon as the Q&A started -- not that he rushed the stage.

If that's truly the case, then, despite my schadenfreude, it was inappropriate and *I* would have resisted too. I wouldn't have screamed like a 12 year old girl, but I WOULD have resisted.

As Norsk said, be very careful here - goose, gander and all that.

I would pay money to see Helen Thomas tasered from the stage at one of those Washington Press gatherings and while she was still quivering thrown out the door by big burly men.

Any time you get physical with a cop, tasing is an option.

I know cops with bad knees, backs, etc., because some goof decided to get physical some years ago before tasers were around. Some of these injuries are very serious and result in a line-of-duty disabilty for life.

I have no problem with this guy getting tased. Any time a police officer tells you to cool it, the response should be yes Sir and immediately comply.

re: #58 Killgore Trout

Don't tell me it was THE Andrew Meyer!

I think he's lucky he wasn't shot. You can't freak out like that around politicians. If there had been secret service protection this could have had tragic consequences.

Watching this, I could help but think of an annoying kid in a supermarket, "I want a ring pop, I want a snickers bar!" The progression is complete.

re: #12 PISSED

I wonder if the cops will be charged with assault and moonbat-tery

/hahhahaha

I wonder if the cops will be charged with assault and moonbat-tasery.

Another in the myriad of possible 'offenses'.

Ron Paul was tased.

I have no problem with the tasing, either, by the way. He clearly asked for it.

But I don't see any evidence he rushed the stage, or acted in a threatening way toward Kerry. (Except in the sense that any crazy person is unpredictable.)

re: #72 Killgore Trout

I think he's lucky he wasn't shot. You can't freak out like that around politicians. If there had been secret service protection this could have had tragic consequences.

If Jon Cary had been on a presidential campaign event, I suspect you may be right.

re: #77 Charles

I have no problem with the tasing, either, by the way. He clearly asked for it.

But I don't see any evidence he rushed the stage, or acted in a threatening way toward Kerry. (Except in the sense that any crazy person is unpredictable.)

Yep you never know what crazy Kerry will do.

Were any Purple Hearts awarded?

re: #3 Black George Bush

The MSM would be hyperventilating if President Bush were tazering people at his speeches.

Could you imagine?

Cops: "Inciting a Riot"

re: #71 jamgarr

Who the hell is THE Andrew Mayer for those of us who are MSM deprived?

THIS WILL NOT END WELL, LIZARDS~!

THIS WILL NOT END WELL, LIZARDS~!

THIS WILL NOT END WELL, LIZARDS~!

THIS WILL NOT END WELL, LIZARDS~!

THIS WILL NOT END WELL, LIZARDS~!

NO~!
NO~!

NO! Don't taze me, Charles!

*zap*
*zzzappp*

AAHHHGGGHHH~!

Eh...guess I did deserve that.

Still...I encourage everyone to think this over a little and...

*ZZZzzzaaappp*

Okay!, Okay!

I'm going, Charles. I'm going, already!

Forgive me if this has already been discussed, but I've only scanned the comments here, but according to Chrarles' link:

Toward the conclusion of Kerry's UF forum, Meyer approached an open microphone at the University Auditorium and demanded Kerry answer his questions. The student claimed that University Police Department officers had already threatened to arrest him, and then proceeded to question Kerry about why he didn't contest the 2004 presidential election and why there had been no moves to impeach President Bush.

A minute or so into what became a combative diatribe, Meyer's microphone was turned off and officers began trying to physically remove him from the auditorium. Meyer flailed his arms, yelling as police tried to restrain him.

Thus it would appear that the student actually started asking questions of Kerry, which quickly turned into an indecipherable rant, while the time for questions was still open; in other words, he didn't "rush" the mike after time was up.
So I'm a little confused (I know, so what's new):
Was this person "tased" and hauled off
a) because time ran out while he was rantingcommenting? or
b) because of what he was, however inarticulately, trying to say?
In other words, was this guy's freedom of speech "tasered" because time ran out or
because someone - probably one of Kerry's aides, didn't like what he was saying?

This kid wrote Sports for the school newspaper & by one account was always a publicity whore.
He will probably get interviewed on the Today Show.
And somehow , in some mysterious way it will all be the fault if the
Criminal Bush.

You can hear Lerch droning on in the background. Is there any video to see whether his almost-lifelike expression even changed with this KosKid went crazy?

re: #80 arf

Were any Purple Hearts awarded?

Yes but the were someone else's and were immediately thrown off the stage.

Wait a sec, is this the same John F. Kerry who went to Vietnam? When there was, like, a war going on there?

We can't have our veterans abused in this manner. Doesn't the moonbat know he risked sparking a flashback reminiscent to the tasers used by Genghis Khan?

re: #80 arf

Were any Purple Hearts awarded?

Heh.

Maybe he should have been Swiftbooted instead of tazed.

hahahahahaha! Awesome! What a jerk!

Check out the first comment:

I attended the speech this afternoon. The police in this situation clearly acted above and beyond the line of duty. After all, this was a town forum. They even broke the stun gun out in the middle of the auditorium while students set in their seats screaming to stop! This is an outrage and personally I feel it is a violation of Andrews rights of free speech. He simply asked Mr. Kerry why he conceded so quickly in the 04' election to Bush after proof of voter fraud. Remmeber the margin was roughly 50k votes, and if it were true that they both belonged to the Secret Society Bones & Skulls at Yale. It's an outrage that such an event would take place on a college campus, the GPDP should be ashamed!

Cluelessness with blinkers on. What a lovely combination.

re: #68 TeamDub

That account says he rushed to the microphone as soon as the Q&A started -- not that he rushed the stage.

If that's truly the case, then, despite my schadenfreude, it was inappropriate and *I* would have resisted too. I wouldn't have screamed like a 12 year old girl, but I WOULD have resisted.

As Norsk said, be very careful here - goose, gander and all that.

and when you resist the law, whether you were right or wrong, you will walk or crawl away injured. it's a very simple concept.

OT
Muslim dentists in London force NHS patients into burqua as a condition of dental care.
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

re: #92 jamgarr

LOL. That was swift, I tell ya - and nuanced as well.

someone needs to dub over the cops so they say respect my autharitah
rofl

re: #70 3 wood

Any time you get physical with a cop, tasing is an option.

I know cops with bad knees, backs, etc., because some goof decided to get physical some years ago before tasers were around. Some of these injuries are very serious and result in a line-of-duty disabilty for life.

I have no problem with this guy getting tased. Any time a police officer tells you to cool it, the response should be yes Sir and immediately comply.

Well...and I agree with that, wood.

Funny thing: everytime a cop has told me to do something, I've done it.

...AND I'VE NEVER BEEN TAZED IN MY LIFE~!

However, this wasn't a cop. It was security people.

And it wasn't one security guy, it was 6 security guys.

~Norsk Troll

Michelle Malkin has a whole boatload more on this story. The guy who got tasered pushed and shoved his way to the microphone, and then launched into a diatribe/question of Kerry.

Kerry apparently did try to keep things calm, but one has to wonder why he had to be tased. Was he that uncontrollable that tasing was necessary?

Ace wonders about a double standard - and points out that there's a Dkos entry on the incident... with a poll showing 83% finding the cops out of line.

re: #77 Charles

I have no problem with the tasing, either, by the way. He clearly asked for it.

But I don't see any evidence he rushed the stage, or acted in a threatening way toward Kerry. (Except in the sense that any crazy person is unpredictable.)

/no he begged not to be tased but his actions demanded the tasing!

His mother should have taught him some manners. Don't want to be tased? Then behave yourself in public and respect your elders and superiors.

If he were my kid, I would taser him twice more when he came home.

perhaps we could start doing this to Trolls?

niceLass: Don't taze me! Don't TAZE me! zzzrrrack OW!

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re: #90 jcbunga

Wait a sec, is this the same John F. Kerry who went to Vietnam?

Whoa, whoa whoa... John Kerry served in Vietnam?

First I've heard of it.

re: #89 rab3

re: #80 arf

Were any Purple Hearts awarded?

Yes but the were someone else's and were immediately thrown off the stage.

Just the ribbons were thrown off the stage

John Kerry missed a chance to deliver his trademark coup de grace, once the assailant was down.

/since half a dozen totally ripped cops were having such difficulty

From one of Malkin's updates:

Update 10:00am Eastern 9/18. Andrew Meyer’s milking his 15 minutes of fame. Check out his email address: “famouswriterman@aol.com.”

He doth think highly of himself.

Now he has the fame he so desperately seeks.

What will he do to top it?

re: #73 davidwb

HaHa. Saw one in the store this am. Threw, THREW a large toy car at mom because she wouldn't get the sugar frosted sugar bomb cereal or something. Mom showed great restraint with child.

re: #59 EtNorskTroll

Yeah, I am fine with that. Once he was being taken into custody and told so he has no choice but to comply, which he continually refused to do. He might have been surrounded by numerous guards/cops, but he would not comply with their requests to put his hands behind his back, which is their only way to ensure the saftey of themselves, others in the room, as well as the individual himself. He had already demonstrated that he was willing to physically resist when standing.

His right to challenge the arrest/custody was something that happens after the fact, not during.

re: #85 realwest
He was tazed for resisting the cops. It is always best not to be a pain in the ass when cops are trying to remove you from a situation. If you feel you were in the right and the cops were in the wrong for trying to remove you, take it up at a later time. Not during the incident, it will only escalate the situation. Why Rodney King 'excessive' arrest went down. He wouldn't obey the cops and kept fighting them.

This moron got a teensy weensy taste of life under Saddam and the Taliban, Castro and Lil' Kim, and whatever other tinpot dick-taters he supports. Fortunately for him, he survived.

Am I okay with that?

Damn right I am.

3 purple hearts and you get to leave the Moonbat Wars

re: #97 pat

Omer Butt is said to have told the patient that unless she wore a headscarf she would have to find another practice.

Dr. Omer Butt.
/heh

This calls for a 'Summer Soldier Investigation"
/kos

Call me un-American but in my book "freedom of speech" does not give one the right to disrupt an entire audience of people. If we don't put a stop to the shenanigans, this willl become the norm and I'm not sure it is not already the norm at many college campuses.

You can peacefully protest outside the halls of the auditorium by handing out pamphlets, holding signs, or beating your drum.

But I have never bought into the theory that one individual's rights supersede the rights of an entire crowd.

Personally, I have holstered the taser and brained him, dragging him out by his feet.

A presumed liberal (the arrested) was confronting a confirmed liberal (Kerry) about not trying to steel the election.

Could it be a sign of the cognitive dissonance across liberal philosophy, policy and thinking patterns?

This is like any episode of cops
the perp always screams OOWWW youre hurting me
well then stop resisting
but no...the perp continues to struggle, all the while screaming that he is being hurt
if you dont want the cops to hurt you, dont struggle
its as simple as that

If he had only waited for a John Edwards' appearance he would have had an ambulance chasing lawyer there to press a law suit.

re: #104 lefty201

perhaps we could start doing this to Trolls?

niceLass: Don't taze me! Don't TAZE me! zzzrrrack OW!

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Hmmm

*Norsk does his best Marge Simpson impersonation*

I don't like the sound of that idea...!

~Et Norsk Troll

re: #97 pat

OT
Muslim dentists in London force NHS patients into burqua as a condition of dental care.
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]

But but buttt butt . Will they pull his license.

Socialized medicine.
Sharia-ized medicine.

He was tasered because the Democratic Party knows what it's base is capable of and it scares the crap out of them.

re: #95 phoenixgirl

and when you resist the law, whether you were right or wrong, you will walk or crawl away injured. it's a very simple concept.

Well, then I guess we have different views on protecting personal freedoms. If I feel I'm being unlawfully detained or arrested, I will most certainly do what I feel I need to whether it will help or not and I will accept the consequences. I have an aversion to heavy-handed authority, perhaps you're more amenable to the idea.

and the guy didnt rush the stage or try to do anything to Kerry
he tried to take over the Q&A and refused to stop talking when asked
he continued to blab his moonbat questions
people started to get tired of it and asked the cops to intervene and remove the individual when he refused to stop talking

re: #109 RedDish

re: #73 davidwb

HaHa. Saw one in the store this am. Threw, THREW a large toy car at mom because she wouldn't get the sugar frosted sugar bomb cereal or something. Mom showed great restraint with child.

Reason number three to shop for groceries at 1 am.

re: #64 Charles ROFL!

re: #125 Sizzlack

and the guy didnt rush the stage or try to do anything to Kerry
he tried to take over the Q&A and refused to stop talking when asked
he continued to blab his moonbat questions
people started to get tired of it and asked the cops to intervene and remove the individual when he refused to stop talking

Isn't that any and all moonbats?

That wussy was whining like a little girl. I am concerned about our future in general if these are the types of entitled weenies our universities are churning out. Take the taser like a man and stop your cryin'. This guy certainly would not give KSM a run for his money under the waterboard!

He's the new Rodney King, bro!

Consider the trouble the cops had handling this nut and think back to the King incident, another one conveniently edited, btw.

King had ingested enough PCP and LSD to drop your average Troofer and gave the cops all they could handle.

He went on to reap millions and rack up countless more arrests.

This punk probably has a battery of lawyers lined up.

re: #77 Charles

His rushing the stage/mics precedes the questioning show in the video. This video doesn't even captur ehis previous two questions to Kerry. From what I've read, there aren't any videos that show his actions that started all this when they tried to end the Q&A session before the idiot got his chance in line.

re: #115 Killgore Trout

re: #97 pat

Omer Butt is said to have told the patient that unless she wore a headscarf she would have to find another practice.

Dr. Omer Butt.
/heh

you said "butt"

re: #97 pat
Halitosis ain't nothin' when you have Butt in your mouth.

The best part, he is a journalism student. Looks like Dick Gregory's replacement at ABC is secured.

The same ones criticizing the police for detaining someone not responding to their orders, would be the same ones complaining about the police if they hadn't stopped him, and he had managed to rush Kerry and do something harmful.

This is what an offline troll looks like.

It's almost like one of those comedy videos where people act as though they're chatting online.

I think the moonbat got what he deserved. However, I'm shocked, shocked I say, that Kerry, the SMP (Senior Moonbat Present), didn't stop his drone and instruct the police to allow the good citizen to continue to speak.

After all, hasn't Kerry said that everyone's voice must be heard and everyone's vote must be counted?

Also, was that applause I heard when the police were wrestling with the moonbat? How can that be? Doesn't to the moonbat left insist the 1st Amendment doesn't just give freedom of speech, it also gives freedom to be heard?

[Link: www.audiosparx.com...]

Help! Help! I'm being repressed! Bloody peasant!

From the single video I saw, it seemed the police came forward too soon. Being a jerk isn't illegal. That being said, once he began throwing a tantrum and resisting, the taser seemed justified.

Either way, he is clearly an idiot.

re: #94 Geepers Hi Ya Geepers! 50k? I thought it was more like 4,000,00 - no?!

re: #130 JammieWearingFool

He's the new Rodney King, bro!

Consider the trouble the cops had handling this nut and think back to the King incident, another one conveniently edited, btw.

King had ingested enough PCP and LSD to drop your average Troofer and gave the cops all they could handle.

He went on to reap millions and rack up countless more arrests.

This punk probably has a battery of lawyers lined up.

This just in.
John Kerry testifies in court case entire audience falls asleep.

Is that guy really wearing white pants?

They could have tasered him before he resisted.

/Because he might have resisted if they didn't

But notice, did any other moonbats in the audience help take the guy down? Or did they just sit back and let the Powers That Be deal with it?

A huge difference between Them and Us.

BTW,

TASER ===

Thomas
A
Swift
Electric
Rifle

And now you know.

The police had to act, the guy was about to reveal Jon Carry's ties to Skull and Bones, the secret society of the Bushies, and prove the 2004 elections were all a sham.

re: #84 EtNorskTroll

NO! Don't taze me, Charles!

Ahhhahaha! LMAO!

re: #88 song_and_dance_man

Just released close-up of his face as he was being tasered.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA~!

Ahhh...I haven't laughed that much in the morning for a good long while, S&D man.

Thanks for that.

~Norsk Troll

This was a very surreal, odd scene on several levels. This big strapping young man in his late teens/early 20s is yelling like a six year old having a tantrum. He seems to have no sense of dignity. Moreover, he expresses not just outrage but is yelling for help. From whom? The audience, J. F. Kerry, teachers? Meanwhile, except for a couple of girls screaming, "Why are you doing this?" The audience just sits there, passive. They seem to have no interest in this scenario. If they ignore what's going on, maybe it's not real? Kerry keeps talking the whole time while this guy is yelling and being tasered. Weirdest thing I've ever seen.

I agree about the undersized women, oversized men comment. There are five or six officers and they can't handle one guy who isn't even punching, kicking or biting, he's just trying to get away. My cousin (a Tallahassee cop) could have handled him all by himself, I've seen him in action. That many cops and they couldn't just pick him up and carry him outside the venue to handcuff at their leisure?

I think the tasering was totally unnecessary and unfortunate because now this guy will be making the rounds of the news shows talking about his trauma, when he should have learned a very different lesson from this experience.

The reaction of the audience was definitely the strangest. I am not suggesting that the students should have rushed the cops by any means but 99% appeared completely detached from any reaction whatsoever. Just weird.

re: #118 defender

Oops.

That would be "steal the election."

Charles, when will you deploy the grammar checker? We are sooo... spoiled.

re: #69 goodbye_natalie

Oh man, I had to snort it back up after reading that.

You are a just a little twisted.

That got me.

"Hep' Me, Hep' Me, Hep' Me Oprah Winnifree!"

re: #140 filetandrelease

Either way, he is clearly an idiot.

re: #150 stranded conservative

This was a very surreal, odd scene on several levels. This big strapping young man in his late teens/early 20s is yelling like a six year old having a tantrum. He seems to have no sense of dignity. Moreover, he expresses not just outrage but is yelling for help. From whom? The audience, J. F. Kerry, teachers? Meanwhile, except for a couple of girls screaming, "Why are you doing this?" The audience just sits there, passive. They seem to have no interest in this scenario. If they ignore what's going on, maybe it's not real? Kerry keeps talking the whole time while this guy is yelling and being tasered. Weirdest thing I've ever seen.

I agree about the undersized women, oversized men comment. There are five or six officers and they can't handle one guy who isn't even punching, kicking or biting, he's just trying to get away. My cousin (a Tallahassee cop) could have handled him all by himself, I've seen him in action. That many cops and they couldn't just pick him up and carry him outside the venue to handcuff at their leisure?

I think the tasering was totally unnecessary and unfortunate because now this guy will be making the rounds of the news shows talking about his trauma, when he should have learned a very different lesson from this experience.

The reaction of the audience was definitely the strangest. I am not suggesting that the students should have rushed the cops by any means but 99% appeared completely detached from any reaction whatsoever. Just weird.

Well put, about sums it up for me.

I understand tasered moonbat is quite gamey...

The audience member was preliminarily identified by UF officials as Andrew Meyer, a UF student in the College of Journalism and Communications.

Let's wait and see just how long it is before "Tazer Boy" is on MSLSD, or CNN, or working for the DNC.

re: #15 EtNorskTroll

The police/security response seemed excessive, all things considered. I have to admit we should be worried when someone is arrested for being a little kooky and impolite when addressing a politician in a public forum.

re: #135 buzzsawmonkey

I think you give J-school much too much credit for educating their students in government and current events.

J-School ranks right up there with Radio/Television/Film and Parks & Recreation Management as blow-off party majors.

Sorry for the off-topic post but I had to vent about this article:

Abizaid: World could abide nuclear Iran

John Abizaid, the retired Army general who headed Central Command for nearly four years, said he was confident that if Iran gained nuclear arms, the United States could deter it from using them.

There is a couple problems with this. One is that the whole idea of deterrence requires rational thought. Ahmadinejad seems to subscribe to the end-times theology of the 12th imam, where he can bring about a messianic return by establishing themselves as the center of Islam and destroying Islam's enemies (USA, Israel, etc.)

Look at Iran's involvment with Hamas, Hezbollah and the proxy war in Iraq. Could Iran hand off the weapons and claim plausible deniability? Look at Syria's "secret" nuclear base that was recently revealed.

Also keep in mind that Iran a few years ago tested the remote detonation of a missle over the Caspian sea. There are only 2 plausible reasons for such a feature. One is to abort a launched missle attack. The other is as an EMP weapon which in theory could wipe out most electronic curcuits in North America (read this for details)

In summary, the idea that is would be possible to deter Iran from using nukes strikes me as dangerously naive about the nature of the person who would have his finger on the reb button.

re: #156 Abu Bin Squid

The audience member was preliminarily identified by UF officials as Andrew Meyer, a UF student in the College of Journalism and Communications.

Let's wait and see just how long it is before "Tazer Boy" is on MSLSD, or CNN, or working for the DNC.

Does he go by the name, "Scott Thomas"

re: #157 ScrewTapeSaysHi

re: #15 EtNorskTroll

The police/security response seemed excessive, all things considered. I have to admit we should be worried when someone is arrested for being a little kooky and impolite when addressing a politician in a public forum.

That's my concern as well.

Slippery slope.

re: #155 christheprofessor

I understand tasered moonbat is quite gamey...

But at least you don't have to pick out the buckshot.

re: #111 newsjunkie_ky Um, I know he was tazed
(tased?!) for resisiting the security guards, but I think it better not to bring the Rodney King case into this ya know?

Here in Florida, the police are very quick to taser people...it makes the papers all the time.

Frankly, as one who watched the Chicago Democrat convention on tv in 1968, I'd say this guy got off easy.

Considering that mootbat anger is already at record level on the Seethe-O-Meter, just imagine how insane they will act at the GOP convention next summer or at any GOP campaign stop. By using this as a lever, I predict that the KozKidz and their MSM allies will turn this against police for engaging in "strong-arm tactics," meaning that moonbats will be allowed to disrupt and scream at will.

re: #160 DeafDog

re: #156 Abu Bin Squid

The audience member was preliminarily identified by UF officials as Andrew Meyer, a UF student in the College of Journalism and Communications.

Let's wait and see just how long it is before "Tazer Boy" is on MSLSD, or CNN, or working for the DNC.

Does he go by the name, "Scott Thomas"

If the money is good he'll go by any name you want.

better yet

help i'm being repressed

actually this is amusing watching the left eat itself. love the skull and bones question. my only problem is the not using of tasers when leftists rush the stage or get disruptive when anyone to the right of gore speak at colleges

re: #157 ScrewTapeSaysHi

re: #15 EtNorskTroll

The police/security response seemed excessive, all things considered. I have to admit we should be worried when someone is arrested for being a little kooky and impolite when addressing a politician in a public forum.

I am loathe to give government power, Screwtape...for this very reason.

~ENT

re: #124 TeamDub

re: #95 phoenixgirl

and when you resist the law, whether you were right or wrong, you will walk or crawl away injured. it's a very simple concept.

Well, then I guess we have different views on protecting personal freedoms. If I feel I'm being unlawfully detained or arrested, I will most certainly do what I feel I need to whether it will help or not and I will accept the consequences. I have an aversion to heavy-handed authority, perhaps you're more amenable to the idea.

the guy was asked to leave and started screaming...he resisted the security/campus police and ignored their requests. he had the option to comply and leave and talk about it outside calmly but he chose to make a scene and scream and draw attention to himself like a spoiled child. in my house i give the order once, after that it's non compliance and there are consequences. i'm sure this guy acts this way in class with his professors, i'm sure his parents saw him act this way at home, and i'm sure he acted like this on the field or court when a call didn't go his way.

On some level you have to give the guy props for being the only one able to stay awake through a Kerry speech.

re: #155 christheprofessor

I understand tasered moonbat is quite gamey...

Not if prepared properly. Forget the 50,000 volt Taser, use the new 1.2 million* volt Taser and they come out quite crispy.

* according to poll results

re: #166 JimmyTheClaw

help i'm being repressed

See the violence inherent in the system!

re: #107 rappmandu

I prefer to use the term Counting Coup.

St. JFK shoulda jumped off the stage and touched this guy with his MagicHat. I'm sure that would have mafe everything all better. Or... an alternative ending would involve St. JFK applying a BandAid to the Taser wounds.

This guy reminds me of my 7 year old son that yells twice as loud over the smallest things just to get his siblings in trouble. I would have liked to see Andy Sipowicz handle the fool.

And for the record, I've been tased and shot with the 2-probe taser gun and, while not exactly pleasant, shouldn't cause infantile screeching.

(cop friends + alcohol = some bad decisions)

re: #1 TeamDub

Wow, seriously uncalled for.

Wow.

What? He rushes ahead of everyone waiting in line to ask a question when told they wouldn't take anymore, refuses to leave the microphone and asks question after question including why Bush wasn't impeached since Clinton was over the "blowjob", then fights the police.

I'd say it was quite called for.

re: #169 bulwrk

must have been why noone came to his aid

re: #162 jamgarr

re: #155 christheprofessor

I understand tasered moonbat is quite gamey...

But at least you don't have to pick out the buckshot.

True, but it's got that "electrical fire" taste...

The TRULY funny thing about this whole incident is that Aluminum foil shirts and hats REALLY WOULD have saved these guys~!

A lot of people don't know this, but the TAZE units are impervious to people wearing chain mail or tin foil under their garments.

Shorts out the probes.

Funny, huh?

This guy really might have been protected if he had simply worn some tin foil...

heh.
~ENT

re: #125 Sizzlack

Actually reports are that they were going to remove him from the room immediately when he rushed the stage/mics, but JK intervened and told them to let him ask his Q(s). Based upon his less than rationale approach, the guards/cops stayed at his side. It is a very good thing that SS agents were not present (as well they shouldn't have been), because he never would have even gotten to the mic!

Did they taser CODE PINK during the Petraeus testimony? I hear one or more of the shriekers resisted arrest.

Kerry, of course, should have negotiated a peace agreement between the student and police. As he'd tell you we have to be smart about unprovoked attacks and excessive use of force. No WMDs were found . It would have been better to get all the parties to sit down with the regional powers, the Euros, and the UN. A little bit more nuance and less juice was called for.

re: #175 Hard Right

What? He rushes ahead of everyone waiting in line to ask a question when told they wouldn't take anymore, refuses to leave the microphone and asks question after question including why Bush wasn't impeached since Clinton was over the "blowjob", then fights the police.

I'd say it was quite called for.

Well, you certainly have an appropriate moniker.

re: #178 EtNorskTroll

omg that is funny! i have an image of the left dressed for jousting

As soon as I read this on AP I thought of LGF and the rotating titles.

"Don't Tase me, bro" - classic.

He is known to them apparently, and he wasn't interested in answers, just acting like an immature prick.

Agreed. All he wanted to do was get up there, be the center of attention and spout all the conspiracy theories that he and his other cracked out friends could come up with.

There were some new ones in there on me...like did anyone hear him rant something about "diebold voting machines that counted backwards"?

What is wrong with people these days...I would agree normally that that an semi-unruly/unarmed person shouldnt be tazed if there is no risk of injury to anyone, but this guy was basically sturggeling the whole time...the cops were just trying to get him pinned...who knows what happened...

maybe he reached a little to close to an officers weapon? Or possibly even accidently struck an officer in the struggle...if he would have just stopped being a douchebag, and stayed still, he could have mouthed off all he wanted when the cuffs got on. Then he could return home to his friends and say how he was oppressed by the man, and he will be given the highest of all moonbat honors, that of be a victim...what a stupid a-hole this guy was all around.

re: #146 Eagle

BTW,

TASER ===

Thomas
A
Swift
Electric
Rifle

And now you know.

Did someone say Tom Swift?
I think the guy was a Brungarian agent...

'member the South Park episode where the disabled woman's electric chair ran out of power in the middle of the street and Cartman tasered it?

The rest is classic...er, I mean I was appalled.

Another gathering of Idiots.

The Code Pink Hate-America Happy Hour

Mary Katharine Ham reports.

Well, that’s the logic on display on the anti-war Left these days. Saturday, I went to a Code Pink and Iraq Veterans Against the War karaoke night to check it out first hand. They always say they truly love the country. Surely, after a couple beers, they’d be raising one for Old Glory and singing God Bless America.

Wrong. The first break in the singing, which consisted of lilting old protest songs and wilted old hippies from another war, came a few minutes after I walked in. An emcee from one of the sponsoring groups took the stage to announce the purpose of the night.

Emcee: We’re here tonight to recognize that the government is moving us in the wrong direction. And it’s not just now. It’s a whole series of what we call wrong direction.

/everyone sing along.

re: #117 goodbye_natalie Well, whether or not his freedom of speech rights were or were not violated isn't really the case (my earlier post was designed to try to get this fact out.). The simple matter is, whether or not he was talking/ranting/screeching into the microphone, once told by the Security Guards to stop, he should have. They might have abridged his free speech rights, but that's a matter to be settled in the court(s).
When told to knock it off and come with us by the security guards, IMO, he shoulda shut the hell up and gone with them.
HE provoked what happened afterwards (and not just the tasering).

RTLM (#67),

Thanks for the link.

"There are people that know I'm here. You can't just like, kill me."

"Oh my god. You're giving me to the government, They're giving me to the government. They're giving me to the government."

"I don't want to give you that. [his name] I'm afraid. I'm not telling you anything."

"Everyone that was here today please go to the police station. Ask them where's the guy that was at the protest. Because They're going to try to kill me. They are going to try to kill me."

This guy needs a serious psych evaluation.

re: #185 phoenixgirl

re: #178 EtNorskTroll

omg that is funny! i have an image of the left dressed for jousting

Wait for it, phoenixgirl...

Waaait for it...

Here come the Monty Python jokes:

re: #123 bulwrk If only.

my only regret is, they didn't taser John F**king Kerry

Instead of screaming for help like a whiny child, he should have just cooperated with security. Was he hoping for a full-blown riot over his inane questions?

That said, I'm glad it was at a Kerry talk instead of a Republican forum.

I agree with the NorskTroll; Tasering was over the line. I would think the cops would be trained in alternate ways to control unruly people. Security cops aren't always the best trained, but they somehow got by for years before the invention of the taser. Seems like someone had a new toy he wanted to try out. I don't advocate prosecuting the cop or anything like that; just condemning taser use when there's no serious threat.

In the years ahead, I can see myself and other lizards in the position of that moonbat. Though I think we would all handle ourselves better than he did, I don't think any of us should have a taser waved under our nose. Beware the precedent, indeed.
SJ

My favorite Taser demonstration

re: #174 TeamDub

(cop friends + alcohol = some bad decisions)

ROTFLMAO

Help! Help! I'm being repressed.

Come see the violence inherited in the system.

Sorry had to.

re: #174 TeamDub

And for the record, I've been tased and shot with the 2-probe taser gun and, while not exactly pleasant, shouldn't cause infantile screeching.

(cop friends + alcohol = some bad decisions)

Heh, reminds me of the same, when telling a cop friend pressure points don't work. Which, got me a quick demonstration, that had me on the ground.

re: #198 Smilin' Jack

I agree with the NorskTroll; Tasering was over the line. I would think the cops would be trained in alternate ways to control unruly people. Security cops aren't always the best trained, but they somehow got by for years before the invention of the taser. Seems like someone had a new toy he wanted to try out. I don't advocate prosecuting the cop or anything like that; just condemning taser use when there's no serious threat.

In the years ahead, I can see myself and other lizards in the position of that moonbat. Though I think we would all handle ourselves better than he did, I don't think any of us should have a taser waved under our nose. Beware the precedent, indeed.
SJ

Agreed - that's why I feel like it was a tad overboard.

If this poor simp had been a conservative asking difficult (or even crazy) questions and suffered the same fate would everyone here be as gung ho?

Maybe, since he was eventually in a physical confrontation, but I just don't like the precedent.

Again, I have no problem with the police removing him from the venue both for safety and because he was disruptive. However, tasering him did not seem to quiet or subdue him. It just made him scream louder. My point is that they had sufficient (or should have been sufficient) manpower to remove him without tasering him. I am not disputing that they had the right to do it. I just don't think it was the best choice under the circumstances. All it did is create a martyr for the next 15 minutes.

Secondly, the reaction of the audience is what really concerned me. They were so passive. I think about the Virginia Tech shootings and I wonder if that's what the kids did there when Cho burst into the classroom. Just sit and hope he would go away.

I love the sound of moonbats being tased in the morning.

Oh, give me land, lots of land under starry skies above, Don't Tase me bro
Let me ride through the wide open country that I love, Don't Tase me bro
Let me be by myself in the evenin' breeze
And listen to the murmur of the cottonwood trees
Send me off forever but I ask you please, Don't Tase me bro

re: #202 zandtar

re: #174 TeamDub

And for the record, I've been tased and shot with the 2-probe taser gun and, while not exactly pleasant, shouldn't cause infantile screeching.

(cop friends + alcohol = some bad decisions)

Heh, reminds me of the same, when telling a cop friend pressure points don't work. Which, got me a quick demonstration, that had me on the ground.

Oh yes, they work. They work well.

You cannot resist the cops. They can use whatever force is necessary. Try it sometime.

re: #184 TeamDub

re: #175 Hard Right

What? He rushes ahead of everyone waiting in line to ask a question when told they wouldn't take anymore, refuses to leave the microphone and asks question after question including why Bush wasn't impeached since Clinton was over the "blowjob", then fights the police.

I'd say it was quite called for.

Well, you certainly have an appropriate moniker.

Let me put it this way, doesn't matter whether the cops were right to remove him (they were), when you fight them, then resist arrest, refuse their commands to put your hands behind your back (like him), you're going to get tazered.
That people here actually think it was excessive tells me you haven't had to do those officer's jobs and don't understand the leeway they have. Those cops will not be punished in any way-they behaved exactly as they were supposed to.

#203 TeamDub

Taze the lad! It might be the first time in his life someone told him no and actually meant it.

Who knows, it might do him some good someday.

re: #202 zandtar

On a related note, won a $100 bet when I stayed standing for 5 seconds after being shot with the 2-probe taser.

Not fun, not easy... not recommended.

re: #209 Hard Right

Well, I generally agree, but I simply don't like the chain of events that led to said tasering.

Just sayin'.

realwest (#141),

re: #94 Geepers Hi Ya Geepers! 50k? I thought it was more like 4,000,000 - no?!

I think the moonbat is making reference to Ohio. And if OH's Electoral College votes had gone to Kerry He'd have won. You have to really dig deep to try to figure out what a moonbat is attempting to say.

I just do not see how this tasering was justified. This is obvious police misconduct. I don't even understand why they tried to detain him after he was done asking questions. It's absurd!

re: #207 TeamDub

re: #202 zandtar

re: #174 TeamDub

And for the record, I've been tased and shot with the 2-probe taser gun and, while not exactly pleasant, shouldn't cause infantile screeching.

(cop friends + alcohol = some bad decisions)

Heh, reminds me of the same, when telling a cop friend pressure points don't work. Which, got me a quick demonstration, that had me on the ground.

Oh yes, they work. They work well.

Indeed they do. Sobered me right up, and begging for it to stop. We now refer to it as 'Pressure Point Theater'

re: #99 JimmyTheClaw

someone needs to dub over the cops so they say respect my autharitah
rofl

that was a great south park episode..."respect my authoritah!"

re: #161 TeamDub

He was arrested because he refused to follow the orders the officers gave him. Plain and simple. If he would have stopped talking and left, there would have been no further action.

re: #180 wolverine20

re: #125 Sizzlack

Actually reports are that they were going to remove him from the room immediately when he rushed the stage/mics, but JK intervened and told them to let him ask his Q(s). Based upon his less than rationale approach, the guards/cops stayed at his side. It is a very good thing that SS agents were not present (as well they shouldn't have been), because he never would have even gotten to the mic!

Watch the video...the mics arent close to the stage. they are in the middle of the audience. He preached his moonbat logic for the first minute and a half of his two minutes of alloted time, then began to askquestions when he was told his time was up. They cut off his mic but he continued to scream his questions. From the stage Kerry was telling them he wanted to answer, but the guy refused to back down and the university had him removed. He didnt charge the mics or rush the stage.

re: #215 zandtar

Heh...

'Pressure Point Theater'

I'd LOVE to see that in the rotation...

If I m not mistaken, tasering is so that no bones be broken, no skulls fractured, No bullets piercing..so take your pick. He was a wild sob with no regard for police orders. yep he deserved just what he got.

re: #208 easy

You cannot resist the cops. They can use whatever force is necessary. Try it sometime.

Not cops, easy.

Security goons personnel.

~ENT

If an investigation determines it excessive force, do I still say he deserved it and that it was appropriate?

/Just thinking out loud

The guy obviously has social issues, as in "what have I done? What have I done?", but equally sad is the comments from other "students" in the news article. They think this is political discourse.

#214 BLBfootballs

Ok, fine. Everyone has a different point of view.

Argue with a cop, you're on your own sport. It's not a prudent thing to do. If you have a beef settle it afterwards. Not at the moment.

If you chose to do otherwise, don't come crying to me through your gums.

re: #55 Live4Truth

I hate to admit it, but I enjoyed that. The good guys won.

Aside from that, notice how those two cops (or maybe they were just security guards) who first attempted to restrain the guy where completely ineffective? He could wiggle away from both of them, even when one cop had some sort of arm-hold on him. It wasn't until the really big cop stepped in, that the guy was taken down. And even then, it took a long time for a group of about five cops to get cuffs on him and taze him in order to be able to take him away. So my question: was the guy on drugs, or were the cops/guards just not very good at it?

***
***
IT IS EASY for people who have no experience or who have never had to subdue another person, to belittle, second guess, or armchair quarterback the efforts of the Law Enforcement or Security officers involved. I have in previous comments read references to the physical and other aspects of the officers involved. One even said this guy would 'wiggle' away from the cops. IF you would notice, this guy is not a small guy, and also NOT weak looking in physical size.
People like this DO NOT 'wiggle' away from you, they jerk, shove, twist, and very forcefully drag you with them. No matter how good you are at what you do, or your physical size, I know from personal experience, that to keep from breaking bones and causing severe contusions(bruises,scrapes,etc.)you wont hold a person or grab so hard or forceful at first, that even a small person can fight you with all their strength and get loose make it look like you are inept.
When the level of force you are using is not enough to subdue an individual who is resisting being subdued or arrest after you have tried to peaceably stop his behavior, you are allowed to use the next level of force, short of bodily harm, unless the individual has a weapon or is combative in a manner that puts the officers in probability of physical harm, or life at risk, at which time the officer is authorized to use sufficient or deadly force.

Tasering was quite appropriate.

Andrew Meyer wasn't there to ask serious questions. He was there to engage in a narcissistic (almost masturbatory) celebration of his own moral superiority.

re: #203 TeamDub

i would feel the same if it was a conservative...

Accoring to liberals, there is no order and therefore no consequences for disorder. Saddam Hussein should have been left in charge of Iraq, but "contained" whatever that means to a billionaire sitting on billions more in oil. This idiot UF jackass should have just been left to rant forever. Rodney King should have been able to resist until the cows came home.

re: #188 Thanos

Thanks. I used to love reading those books as a boy.

He wasn't threatre: #198 Smilin' Jack

I agree with the NorskTroll; Tasering was over the line. I would think the cops would be trained in alternate ways to control unruly people. Security cops aren't always the best trained, but they somehow got by for years before the invention of the taser. Seems like someone had a new toy he wanted to try out. I don't advocate prosecuting the cop or anything like that; just condemning taser use when there's no serious threat.

In the years ahead, I can see myself and other lizards in the position of that moonbat. Though I think we would all handle ourselves better than he did, I don't think any of us should have a taser waved under our nose. Beware the precedent, indeed.
SJ

No one waved a Tazer under his nose. That's hyperbole. We won't face such a fate because we aren't idiots looking for trouble. As for other methods before the tazer, they had them. They're called the baton, and more recently pepper spray. Other items include the sap or blackjack.
Folks, the Tazer is used on noncompliant people all the time. It also protects the officers from being hurt in addition to the suspect. The use in this case was not excessive in any way, shape or form.

re: #209 Hard Right

re: #184 TeamDub

re: #175 Hard Right

What? He rushes ahead of everyone waiting in line to ask a question when told they wouldn't take anymore, refuses to leave the microphone and asks question after question including why Bush wasn't impeached since Clinton was over the "blowjob", then fights the police.

I'd say it was quite called for.

Well, you certainly have an appropriate moniker.

Let me put it this way, doesn't matter whether the cops were right to remove him (they were), when you fight them, then resist arrest, refuse their commands to put your hands behind your back (like him), you're going to get tazered.
That people here actually think it was excessive tells me you haven't had to do those officer's jobs and don't understand the leeway they have. Those cops will not be punished in any way-they behaved exactly as they were supposed to.

I used to work as an Orange County sheriff's deputy, Hard Right.

Next question?

~Norsk Troll

re: #213 Geepers Um, my shovels and post hole diggers don't work well as far down as you'd need to go to figure him out.

Kerry must have been for tasering the protestor before he was against it...

Kerry Condemns Heckler Arrest

re: #198 Smilin' Jack

I would think the cops would be trained in alternate ways to control unruly people

Of course they are, a good friend of mine has a missing front tooth to prove it.

Note: if grabbed from behind during a brawl, don't turn around and punch before identifying who it is.

Instapundit's take on this:

THEY TOLD ME THAT IF GEORGE W. BUSH WERE REELECTED, those who spoke out to authority would be taken down by its minions. And they were right!

Heh™.

re: #226 buzzsawmonkey Thanks. I knew you could improve on that. :~)

re: #224 BulgarWheat

#214 BLBfootballs

Ok, fine. Everyone has a different point of view.

Argue with a cop, you're on your own sport. It's not a prudent thing to do. If you have a beef settle it afterwards. Not at the moment.

If you chose to do otherwise, don't come crying to me through your gums.

The issue isn't about "arguing" with cops. It's about whether the cops behaved appropriately. They clearly did not. People have a free speech right to ask irritating and obnoxious questions. The questioner was indeed irritating and a bit rude but not otherwise out of line. His questions had ended and Kerry's response had already begun. There was no reason for police intervention at that point.

It's not the police's job to protect the delicate feelings and poll ratings of politicians. I understand why he argued with the police. The police were wrong, aggressive and totally out of line.

re: #218 Sizzlack

re: #180 wolverine20

re: #125 Sizzlack

Actually reports are that they were going to remove him from the room immediately when he rushed the stage/mics, but JK intervened and told them to let him ask his Q(s). Based upon his less than rationale approach, the guards/cops stayed at his side. It is a very good thing that SS agents were not present (as well they shouldn't have been), because he never would have even gotten to the mic!

Watch the video...the mics arent close to the stage. they are in the middle of the audience. He preached his moonbat logic for the first minute and a half of his two minutes of alloted time, then began to askquestions when he was told his time was up. They cut off his mic but he continued to scream his questions. From the stage Kerry was telling them he wanted to answer, but the guy refused to back down and the university had him removed. He didnt charge the mics or rush the stage.

Yes he did run up to the mic. That's why the cops were behind him. They had grabbed him, but Kerry said to let him go and ask his question. There is more than one vid out there that shows this. So the fact is, he rushed the mic.

re: #103 Whale Watcher

His mother should have taught him some manners. Don't want to be tased? Then behave yourself in public and respect your elders and superiors.

If he were my kid, I would taser him twice more when he came home.

This episode (as well as a lot of the other jackassery we're seeing these days) is a direct result of treating our kids like children into their 20's.

Thanks a lot, Dr. Spock.

Uh... I just watched the other footage from closer to the front of the room in comment #67. It also appears that there was more audience involvement from that angle than could be heard from the back. Most of them seemed amused except for the girls that were really upset.

I honestly don't think this guy has ever been told "no" before. He can't believe that anyone else has a right to tell him what to do. He really thinks the "government" is going to kill him. I agree with the poster that recommended a psych evaluation.

Charles,

Maybe you could update this with RTML's LiveLeak link.

It shows him after being taken from the auditorium carrying on and on about how he's "being given to the government" and how "they're going to try to kill me". This guy is a serious nut case.

re: #227 Dirk Diggler

Tasering was quite appropriate.

Andrew Meyer wasn't there to ask serious questions. He was there to engage in a narcissistic (almost masturbatory) celebration of his own moral superiority.

Exactly. I was thinking much the same thing in #31.

re: #239 Hard Right

I was under the impression it was a Q&A (hence the mics in the crowd) and he got up and was allowed to ask a question...yes he hijacked the Q&A but I didnt think this guy like plowed thru people to get to the mic when he wasnt supposed to
thats not how any of the stories i read/watched presented it

#238 BLBfootballs

Like I said, you're entitled to your point of view.

Don't get the oatmeal on me complaining.

That's my point of view

I giggled when I saw the video, because he's clearly a dumbass who deserved it. I'm fine with all of this. :) I kinda feel bad for Kerry at some level because he's giving a talk, yadda yadda and all of the sudden, this lamo starts talking all crazy.

It's like this kid knew he'd be tasered and end up with free publicity.

But as we all know, this is Bush's fault.

re: #232 EtNorskTroll

re: #209 Hard Right

re: #184 TeamDub

re: #175 Hard Right

What? He rushes ahead of everyone waiting in line to ask a question when told they wouldn't take anymore, refuses to leave the microphone and asks question after question including why Bush wasn't impeached since Clinton was over the "blowjob", then fights the police.

I'd say it was quite called for.

Well, you certainly have an appropriate moniker.

Let me put it this way, doesn't matter whether the cops were right to remove him (they were), when you fight them, then resist arrest, refuse their commands to put your hands behind your back (like him), you're going to get tazered.
That people here actually think it was excessive tells me you haven't had to do those officer's jobs and don't understand the leeway they have. Those cops will not be punished in any way-they behaved exactly as they were supposed to.

I used to work as an Orange County sheriff's deputy, Hard Right.

Next question?

~Norsk Troll

I stand corrected. Change it to Most of you. However, it's your opinion they shouldn't have tazered him. Bet there are many, like my father who would agree they did the right thing.

re: #243 buzzsawmonkey

BTW, the whole "Don't tase me! Don't tase me!" is highly reminiscent of Br'er Rabbit, is it not?

"Pleeeze don't fling me in dat brier patch, Br'er Bear!"

Hmmm... interesting.

::pyramids fingers in Mr Burns fashion::

Served the punk right...he wanted to be a marytr and he got his wish.

Still, I can't watch this video and not think:

"“Come see the violence inherit in the system. HELP! HELP! I’m being repressed!”

Last comment, I promise.

That was a really sparse crowd to hear someone who was elected president in 2004.

/

I hope that guy's going to be OK.

#47 Team Dub
He was tasered in a fashion reminiscent of Jenjis Kahn...

LMAO - you've even gotten the pronunciation perfected...

re: #225 BODYGUARDEAGLE

re: #231 Hard Right

What you guys said. It doesn't matter if they were police or private security guards hired by the school. He was asked to shut up and leave the auditorium with the security guards. HE resisted them. More security guards got involved and HE resisted them, too. At some point y'all have to ask yourself - is it better to obey the lawful requests of the first two security guards, the more forcefull "requests" of the additional security guards or get tasered?
HE was responsible for what happened. Period.

The names are different, but the personalities are the same...so, it begs the question: Is Andrew Meyer really Scott Beauchamp's brother?

re: #242 Geepers

Charles,

Maybe you could update this with RTML's LiveLeak link.

It shows him after being taken from the auditorium carrying on and on about how he's "being given to the government" and how "they're going to try to kill me". This guy is a serious nut case.

ROFLMAO!

re: #232 EtNorskTroll

ANYONE WHO HAS WORKED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT, has experienced an individual like this guy, and knows the type of situation it can evolve into if not stopped immediately. Therefore it does seem justified to use the Taser. IMHO

BODYGUARDEAGLE

#250 Rogue198

Truly a Monty Python moment if I ever saw one!

This young little asshat went out of his way to instigate this.

Don't cry about getting wet when you piss in the wind.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist

re: #254 realwest

re: #225 BODYGUARDEAGLE

re: #231 Hard Right

What you guys said. It doesn't matter if they were police or private security guards hired by the school. He was asked to shut up and leave the auditorium with the security guards. HE resisted them. More security guards got involved and HE resisted them, too. At some point y'all have to ask yourself - is it better to obey the lawful requests of the first two security guards, the more forcefull "requests" of the additional security guards or get tasered?
HE was responsible for what happened. Period.

___
Exactly right!

As Mr. Etrain pointed out in an earlier thread, We think the moonbats are just kooks. The moonbats think conservatives are pure evil. If they get their hands on enough power, whatever they have that passes for principles will be tossed out and they will try to eliminate us. By killing off "evil" they'll think they're saving the world.

This guy, whoever he is, will probably become some kind of moonbat symbol/martyr/saint. If the Right is on record that he deserved Tasering then, in their moonbat minds, a conservative will deserve far worse...not that that won't happen anyway.
SJ

"I'm not, as you so colloquially put it, 'your bro'... Bzzzt!"

Aaahg, you're killin' me, Sparks!

- iirightii

re: #238 BLBfootballs "It's not the police's job to protect the delicate feelings and poll ratings of politicians. I understand why he argued with the police. The police were wrong, aggressive and totally out of line." Even if what you say is true, legally the security guards were asked to remove this person from the auditorium. They asked him to and he said no and HE started the fracus.
If you believe the police were wrong, aggressive and totally out of line, then you sue their ass off for it - you don't get into a fight with, ultimately 6 or 8 of 'em.

re: #240 mikefln

This episode (as well as a lot of the other jackassery we're seeing these days) is a direct result of treating our kids like children into their 20's.

Thanks a lot, Dr. Spock.

Why blame Spock? He would have set his phaser to stun.
What's that?
Wrong Spock?
Sorry.

re: #261 Smilin' Jack

The moonbats think conservatives are pure evil. If they get their hands on enough power, whatever they have that passes for principles will be tossed out and they will try to eliminate us. SJ

Like Liz Hasslebeck on the view
According to Barry Manilow she is "dangerous" and he refuses to do the show unless she is not present

BLBfootballs says:

The issue isn't about "arguing" with cops.

Yes it is. If he would have left when asked he would have walked away.

It's about whether the cops behaved appropriately. They clearly did not. People have a free speech right to ask irritating and obnoxious questions.

But not the "right" to resist arrest.

It's not the police's job to protect the delicate feelings and poll ratings of politicians.

What utter nonsense.

re: #248 Hard Right

re: #232 EtNorskTroll

re: #209 Hard Right

re: #184 TeamDub

re: #175 Hard RightWhat? He rushes ahead of everyone waiting in line to ask a question when told they wouldn't take anymore, refuses to leave the microphone and asks question after question including why Bush wasn't impeached since Clinton was over the "blowjob", then fights the police.

I'd say it was quite called for.

Well, you certainly have an appropriate moniker.

Let me put it this way, doesn't matter whether the cops were right to remove him (they were), when you fight them, then resist arrest, refuse their commands to put your hands behind your back (like him), you're going to get tazered.
That people here actually think it was excessive tells me you haven't had to do those officer's jobs and don't understand the leeway they have. Those cops will not be punished in any way-they behaved exactly as they were supposed to.

I used to work as an Orange County sheriff's deputy, Hard Right.Next question?

~Norsk Troll

I stand corrected. Change it to Most of you. However, it's your opinion they shouldn't have tazered him. Bet there are many, like my father who would agree they did the right thing.

The LAPD did this kind of thing in the 80's with nunchucks to get the anti-abortion protesters to get up from their sit-ins to protest the children being murdered in the clinics (according to them).

The cops would put the nunchucks around the wrists and then 'twist' the chucks around and pull back on them.

They broke many, many little bones in the wrists of people because they wouldn't get up.

Many protesters live in agony to this day from the torture inflicted upon them.

That little stunt by the LAPD figured prominently in my decision to leave the force. I'm not a thug. I don't care if I have the legal right to be one or not...and I refuse to be associated with people who behave like thugs.

I have an engineering degree, now.

Thank God~!

~Norsk Troll

As a conservative, it disgusts me to see this sort of heavy handedness. Yes, to all of the comments about brats not respecting decorum and all that...I agree with you, BUT, THIS MAN HAS THE RIGHT to speak, whether you agree with his views or not (I do not). Words that are not incitement to violence should NEVER be met with force. This goes completely against the founding principles of this country...As I am certain the Framers of the Constitution would have been carted off by the British, if they could have been. Not that this guy is in any danger of being on their level. I fully believe that you are allowed to resist an unlawful arrest. This man offered NO offense to the officers, simply resisted. In light of the video, this arrest should be thrown out and the officers suspended without pay (at the very least). To those of you who believe this was an appropriate action on the part of the university and officers...Wait until it's you...If you allow this to stand, it will not be long.

Look at CSPAN, hell look at any public discourse. These things happen everyday. Is it right? No, of course not, but you did not see Barbara Boxer being manhandled for going over her alloted time in questioning Petraeus.