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Tue, Sep 18, 2007 at 5:53:04 pm PDT

After her appearance with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad at a hatefest in Tehran presided over by Cuba, United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Louise Arbour jet-setted over to Geneva, where she condemned the unwashed masses of Europe for their bigotry and Islamophobia.

GENEVA (Reuters) - United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Louise Arbour said on Monday that bigotry and prejudice, especially in regard to Muslims, were common in Europe and called on governments to tackle the issue.

The remarks from the former Canadian Supreme Court judge, which came in the wake of similar charges issued last week by a U.N. rights investigator, were quickly challenged by a leading global non-religious grouping.

The report by investigator Doudou Diene of Senegal documented what he called an alarming rise in intolerance, and in particular Islamophobia, in European countries, and Arbour said, “I have no reason not to share his concerns.”

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1 Piglet-U93  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 5:55:06pm

So many traitors to the West. I have lost count.

2 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 5:55:42pm

How about Copts in Egypt?

How about the wrong type of Muslim in Pakistan?


Christian school girls in Indonesia?

Buddhist rubber farmers in Thailand?


How about there human rights?

3 jcm  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 5:55:49pm

First; I 'aint afraid of no one.
Second; if your declared intention is impose your religion on me or kill me, we got a serious problem.

4 Harry Flashman  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 5:56:01pm

So the EU buries the report on rising anti-semitism in Europe because it implicated the you-know-who's but the UN has no difficulty in highlighting fictional 'islamophobia' in Europe.

Something is wrong with this picture.

5 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 5:56:20pm

What is it with these people? Are they hipmotized?

6 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 5:56:21pm
The report by investigator Doudou Diene of Senegal documented what he called an alarming rise in intolerance

The more muslims europe lets in the more intolerance europe will see because islam is as intolerant as it gets. The leftists' blindness to hypocrisy will be their undoing.

7 ibrodsky  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 5:56:23pm

She's just jockeying for position for when the IslamoNazis take over.

8 Thanos  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 5:56:27pm

It's those cartoons, we are torturing them with them, it's sooo much worse than panties on the head.

9 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 5:56:54pm

The United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights.

Heh.

If she spoke out in Iran, she be the United Nations Stoned Commissioner for Human Rights.

10 jcm  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 5:56:56pm

re: #2 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

How about Copts in Egypt?

How about the wrong type of Muslim in Pakistan?


Christian school girls in Indonesia?

Buddhist rubber farmers in Thailand?


How about there human rights?

Human Islams' rights.
Fixed it for 'ya.
/s

11 Malatrope  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 5:57:06pm

I wish I thought there was a chance we'd grow a pair and throw the UN out of the country, but I'm losing hope that it will ever happen.

12 Shug  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 5:57:22pm
The report by investigator Doudou Diene of Senegal documented what he called an alarming rise in intolerance, and in particular Islamophobia

Behead those who fear islam

Death to the phobes !

/UN

13 Shug  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 5:58:08pm

Doudou Diene

if the name fits...

14 jcm  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 5:58:45pm

re: #7 ibrodsky

She's just jockeying for position for when the IslamoNazis take over.

Yeah, end of the neck cutting line.

15 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 5:59:12pm

The woman must be on dope.

16 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 5:59:21pm

I particularly enjoy Doudou's title: U.N. special rapporteur on racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related forms of intolerance

17 Highrise  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 5:59:47pm

re: #5 Noam Sayin'

What is it with these people? Are they hipmotized?


/head boggles

in these times: good = bad, bad = good

/head boggles some more

18 Pro-Bush Canuck  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:00:43pm

Louise Arbour is a (excuse my language) fucking Canadian communist bitch. This is what Canada specializes in these days: providing the world with viciously evil Marxist robots to pollute the globe with anti-Western libel.

She deserves (self-censored) from every (self-censored) in her entire (self-censored).

19 jcm  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:01:12pm

re: #17 Highrise

re: #5 Noam Sayin'

What is it with these people? Are they hipmotized?


/head boggles

in these times: good = bad, bad = good

/head boggles some more

Isaiah 5:20
Woe unto them who call evil good, and good evil; who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

20 Thanos  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:01:24pm

WEA Criticizes UN Islamophobia Report

“I would propose that the very heart of the issue is not ‘defamation’ of Islam or ‘baseless’ Islamophobia,” expressed Elizabeth Kendal of the WEA’s Religious Liberty Commission, “but the fact that the dictators of Islam are now as ever consumed and driven by 'apostaphobia!'”

“Indeed the new openness brought to the world through globalization and developments in information and communication technologies is causing the power stakeholders and religious dictators of the non-free world to be seriously gripped by apostaphobia – a well-founded fear of loss of adherents, which is manifested primarily as uncompromising repression and denial of fundamental liberties, by violent and subversive means,” she added Monday.

Kendal, who serves as the principal researcher for the WEA RLC, was writing in response to a report to the U.N. Human Rights Council (UNHRC) written by U.N. Special Rapporteur Doudou Diene, who recommended that the international human rights covenants be “reinterpreted and amended” to deal with Islamophobia.

21 6pat6  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:01:47pm

How many bureaucratic ass-kissers, apologists and appeasers does it take to give away the farm?

22 FriarsTale  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:02:33pm

hat tip me!
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

23 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:02:37pm

re: #7 ibrodsky

She's just jockeying for position for when the IslamoNazis take over.

Yep. That's what leftists do- curry favor with those they believe will have positions of power. It's a political nepotism.

24 Killian Bundy  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:03:37pm

re: #5 Noam Sayin'

Did you see the answer to your options question?

/anyone still holding deep in the money S&P puts is insane, they're worthless

25 Armed  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:03:40pm

Please somebody, please tell me why we fund the U.N.?

26 Syrah  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:04:27pm

re: #21 6pat6

How many bureaucratic ass-kissers, apologists and appeasers does it take to give away the farm?

1

27 EE  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:04:40pm

What the UN Human Rights Head did not notice: the renaissance of Hizb ut-Tahrir. This organization calls for a caliphate headquartered in the Middle East. It also calls for the murder of every Jew. Not something that would be noticed by any UN official, of course. And not an organization that is outlawed by the UK.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

28 6pat6  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:04:55pm

That idiot Arbour had a practically orgasmic look on her face as she was hobnobbing with Chavez, Ahcmidinijad, and the other thugs she and her kind love so much! Truly pathetic Commie bitch.

29 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:05:19pm

Doudou was spewing more of the same bilge last week.

30 Thanos  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:05:45pm

re: #27 EE

What the UN Human Rights Head did not notice: the renaissance of Hizb ut-Tahrir. This organization calls for a caliphate headquartered in the Middle East. It also calls for the murder of every Jew. Not something that would be noticed by any UN official, of course. And not an organization that is outlawed by the UK.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]


Speaking of, New report on HuT in the UK
[Link: jamestown.org...]

31 Golem Akbar  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:05:50pm

Ahh, the UN Human Rights Council. Well now, that's two-fer if ever there was. UN + Human Rights Council. And of course Islamophobia is the problem. (/needed?)

32 Pro-Bush Canuck  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:06:22pm

Arbour isn't your typical expense-account-padding, private-jet cruising, prostitute-fondling UN drone. She's a black-hearted harridan straight from the stinking bowels of the Seventh Level of Leftist Hell.

She makes Markos Moulitsas look like Rush Limbaugh.

33 Arkay  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:06:35pm

"One thing is for certain: there is no stopping them; the ants will soon be here. And I for one welcome our new insect overlords."

-- Kent Brockman

34 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:07:22pm

Another Gramscian Whore of the Caliphate spouts off.

35 greenmamba  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:07:34pm
she condemned the unwashed masses of Europe for their bigotry

Louise Arbour is worried about bigger tree?

Posted elsewhere yesterday, but I just can't help myself.

36 Golem Akbar  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:07:35pm

re: #29 JammieWearingFool

Doudou was spewing more of the same bilge last week.

Your're right. It is good news. Maybe Europe has a chance, after all.

37 Phoenikz  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:07:44pm

"The report by investigator Doudou Diene of Senegal documented what he called an alarming rise in intolerance, and in particular Islamophobia, in European countries"

He may have a point.

On the other hand, the intolerance in muslim nations such as Saudi Arabia and Iran is already at such a high level such that it can hardly get any worse. So, nothing to be alarmed at there...

If we flush a Koran down a toilet, it's "Islamophobia", but stoning women to death for being raped or beheading kaffirs who strayed into Mecca - well, that's all just following tradition, y'know...

38 Syrah  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:07:48pm

re: #6 Sharmuta

The report by investigator Doudou Diene of Senegal documented what he called an alarming rise in intolerance

The more muslims europe lets in the more intolerance europe will see because islam is as intolerant as it gets. The leftists' blindness to hypocrisy will be their undoing.


If it wasn't for their pyramid scheme social pensions, they would not need to import Muslims.

Europe is selling it soul for the price of their pensions.

39 littleoldlady  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:07:55pm

Absolutely the Europeans are Islamophobic!

Every time the Muslims say, "JUMP!" they answer, "How high?"

THEY.ARE.SCARED.

40 6pat6  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:08:19pm

re: #32 Pro-Bush Canuck

That is one of the most amazing descriptions I've ever seen! Can I use that? That's good!

41 EE  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:08:41pm

re #27


Hizb ut-Tahrir's renaissance
By ALEX KOGAN

Hizb ut-Tahrir (the Party of Islamic Liberation) is undergoing a dramatic increase in activity both worldwide and locally.

Founded in Jerusalem 54 years ago, the Sunni pan-Islamic Party seeks to establish a Middle Eastern Caliphate to promote further expansion of Islam.

Active in 40 countries from Asia to the US, Hizb ut-Tahrir urges its membership to "kill Jews wherever you find them." One of Hizb ut-Tahrir's most active cells is stationed the United Kingdom, where a proposal is currently on the table to ban the organization.

The party is not only fervently anti-Zionist, but it also endorses the murder of any other "Infidel" in its path.

Earlier this month, German police arrested three men on suspicion of plotting to bomb military and civilian airports, restaurants, and nightclubs-two of which were Uzbek members of a Hizb ut-Tahrir splinter cell.

This splinter cell, the Islamic Jihad Union, was unknown until spring of 2004 after bomb attacks in the Uzbek cities of Tashkent and Bukhara that left 47 people dead. In July 2004, this same cell bombed the US and Israeli embassies in Tashkent.

Uzbek authorities and secret services claim that Hizb ut-Tahrir's cells in the region have recently received a boost in activity and members.

Uzbekistan was always the most preferable spot for Hizb ut-Tahrir's "activists", as the local population has proven highly receptive to militant Islamist ideology. After the collapse of the USSR in the mid-1990s, fundamentalist preachers of Hizb ut-Tahrir managed to recruit strong support in Uzbekistan, winning over a restless people under by a weak government.

Uzbekistan became Hizb ut-Tahrir's stronghold in the region. Its current instability renders it even more attractive to Hizb ut-Tahrir, whose activity is becoming increasingly aggressive.

The murder of Mark Weil, director of Tashkent's independent Ilkhom Theatre and one of the most prominent Jewish artists of Uzbekistan, explains the recent blacklisting of Uzbekistan by Israeli LOTAR experts (WHICH EXPERTS?) as a country of potential danger to Israeli tourists.

For Hizb ut-Tahrir, Uzbekistan functions as a gateway to expansion into the adjacent, more stable Muslim countries.

Kyrgyz security services arrested at the beginning of September several municipal officials along the Uzbek border after who accepted bribed to forge identification documents for members of Hizb ut-Tahrir to illegally enter the country.

Kazakh secret police also report a sudden upsurge of Hizb ut-Tahrir's activity, as Kazakhstan is one of the ideal targets for the movement.

Several years ago the KNB (National Security Service of Kazakhstan) almost succeeded in uprooting Hizb ut-Tahrir in the country. Today the fundamentalists are trying to even the score by destabilizing this powerful regional player, a major gas, and oil and uranium supplier to the world.

According to the KNB, several newly formed fundamentalist cells were disrupted last month with members originating in Uzbekistan, Russia and Chechnya. Police found leaflets and CDs during the raids that followed-the cells were working to recruit young Muslims for international action.

The detained fundamentalists were also planning violent acts against banks and prominent businessmen in Kazakhstan. Proceeds from their armed robberies were to be transferred to militant groups in various international hotspots, including Afghanistan and Palestinian territories.

The confiscated propaganda included video clips, which had been previously published on YouTube. The clips depict Muslims being attacked by Western forces and ask "for how much longer?" Produced by the Hizb ut-Tahrir's Malaysian branch, the clips call on Muslims to "arise and shake off the dust" of European colonialism and show members marching in support of Palestinians to the commentary "Oh armies of the Muslim world, we await your help."

42 Thanos  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:09:52pm

re: #3 jcm
Sneaksie JCM, Sneaksie... you must be one of those Hobbittses!

43 lurknomore  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:09:56pm

I don't know why, maybe it's because I've run out of things to say, BUT I'm in a voting mood tonight, so WATCH OUT folks...

:)

44 jcm  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:09:58pm
45 Catttt  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:10:04pm
Fair is foul, and foul is fair.

~William Shakespeare

46 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:10:09pm

re: #10 jcm

You could have fixed the 'there'/'their' homonym error while you were at it.

47 Piglet-U93  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:10:11pm

re: #7 ibrodsky

She's just jockeying for position for when the IslamoNazis take over.

Little does she know that there will be a forced marriage, a bag over her body and no more trips outside her new dump of a home. And that will be the last the world ever hears from her again.

48 EE  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:10:13pm

re #27, just to finish the rest of this interesting article:

Palestinians are thought to be receiving funding from the flourishing Hizb ut-Tahrir branches worldwide. They are taking over Hamas estates on the West Bank.

After taking control of Sair village, north of Hebron, Hizb ut-Tahrir accounted for close to 400 followers. On August 11 10,000 supporters marched through Ramallah, Fatah's stronghold, calling for the creation of a Caliphate.

"Hizb ut-Tahrir's rise symbolizes the fall of Hamas' brand of political Islam and Fatah's nationalist ideology," claims Palestinian analyst Hani Al-Masri. "Palestinian despair is Hizb ut-Tahrir's tool".

Hizb ut Tahrir has no military wing in the Palestinian Authority yet.

49 sa trawler  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:10:51pm

It's time to let these heathens the difference between good and evil.

Good = glass.


Bad = 72 virgins.


Country by Country.


I spit on their Koran, their profit Muhamhead, let piss be upon him, and their Allah.


Burn in Hell all of you!

50 nyc redneck  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:11:04pm

i really do believe that at some point the unwashed masses will rise up and lay low these elitist scum who presume to tell us how to be in the world. we will reach our breaking point. (btw, i ust had a nice hot bath w/ bubbles)

51 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:11:58pm

Arbour obviously missed the latest news from Sweden.

"I Noticed That You Can't Criticize the Muslim World"

52 Syrah  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:12:30pm

re: #50 nyc redneck

i really do believe that at some point the unwashed masses will rise up and lay low these elitist scum who presume to tell us how to be in the world. we will reach our breaking point. (btw, i ust had a nice hot bath w/ bubbles)

Those "unwashed masses" will most likely do it while screaming "Allahu Akbar!"

53 jcm  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:12:35pm

re: #47 Piglet-U93

re: #7 ibrodsky

She's just jockeying for position for when the IslamoNazis take over.

Little does she know that there will be a forced marriage, a bag over her body and no more trips outside her new dump of a home. And that will be the last the world ever hears from her again.

And if she bitches, she buried to her waist and stoned.

54 El matamoros  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:12:57pm

"wake of similar charges issued last week by a U.N. rights investigator, were quickly challenged by a leading global non-religious grouping."

HUH? Who was it exactly that challenged these BS reports? It does'nt say in the article. Who were these brave souls who told the libtard political elites where to shove it? Was it LGF? I demand an investigation by a bilateral commission with an internal inquiry with adjuctent compuntuality!

On a good note however, the UN is a useless, worthless, Powerless piece of shit, so what they say or do counts for zip. And People called the swiss crazy for never joining that body.

55 nyc redneck  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:13:38pm

re: #39 littleoldlady

Absolutely the Europeans are Islamophobic!

Every time the Muslims say, "JUMP!" they answer, "How high?"

THEY.ARE.SCARED.

they are cowards. sad and disgusting.

56 meMarc  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:14:02pm

Here's a picture of Louise Arbour with Kofi.

Anyone for a caption contest?

How about, "When in doubt, blame it on the Jews."

57 lurknomore  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:14:10pm

re: #50 nyc redneck


Will you
PLEASE tell me when this will happen? I keep waiting, but no one ever steps up... I feel that my words, alone, and all the rest of us, RING DEAD!

58 Pro-Bush Canuck  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:14:26pm

re: #40 6pat6

Be my guest. Leftists deserve all the invective we can sling at them.

59 Friend of USA  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:15:02pm

Everytime Louise Arbour does something like that I feel ashamed to be like her a french Canadian.

Shut down the UN before they destroy the western world completely!

60 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:15:02pm

Next week we get to have our noses rubbed in shit again while Thugo Chavez and Lil' Mahmoud slither into NY with all the rest of the whores, pimps, and thieves.

61 Pro-Bush Canuck  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:15:43pm

re: #56 meMarc

Photoshop a Nazi insignia on that bitch and you're off to a good start...

Canada and the UK have this putrid core of hard-leftists that rise to power. There isn't really a good parallel in the US to show you what I'm talking about...

62 Highrise  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:15:51pm

Whenever these human rights people *speak out* or *issue reports* they never seem to point out the atrocities that are happening to the true victims. They go after the USA and other western countries nearly every time. It seems they spin numbers and facts to support the bad guys and when asked hard questions about this, they are raving lunatics to support their point.

---

jcm - thanks :) Wasn't sure what passage that came from. Now I know.

63 peck  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:15:57pm

Anything out of any UN rep is nothing more than an opinion. And we all know that opinions are like a**h***s, everybody has at least one. The bigger question is, why is anyone paying attention?

64 MandyManners  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:16:33pm

re: #44 jcm

Arbour's CV

A flaming liberal.

65 Highrise  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:16:35pm

re: #43 lurknomore

I don't know why, maybe it's because I've run out of things to say, BUT I'm in a voting mood tonight, so WATCH OUT folks...

:)

HAHA..I better get my game on then.

/snickers

66 EC Marm  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:16:36pm

re: #46 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

re: #10 jcm

You could have fixed the 'there'/'their' homonym error while you were at it.

I suspect jcm has homonymphobica.

67 pablito  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:17:04pm

What, and no condemnation of Israel from this french-speaking Islamist tool?

68 Thanos  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:17:39pm

re: #49 sa trawler

I read a book once that was made into a movie about a sea captain. It starred Gregory Peck I think.

69 meMarc  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:18:11pm

Be funny if the next post gets more minuses than comments.

70 nyc redneck  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:18:29pm

re: #57 lurknomore

yes. it seems bleak. and it is frustrating. but it's not over till the last farmer lights a torch and grabs a pitch fork.

71 lurknomore  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:18:49pm

I think the "hamsters" have gotten to me, I can't vote, and I can't get to the newest post, either... WTF is going on here!

72 Maine's Michael  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:18:58pm

Charles, get a load of this NYTIMES piece.

A front page headline is how the Palestinian economy is suffering because of shipping constraints brought on by isolation.

The second page is absolutely unfucking believable. It is devoted to how badly the arms and explosive sufferers and tunnel diggers are suffering because the market for smuggled weaponry is depressed. Fewer targets and customers . . .

Boo fucking hoo. Steven Erlanger is crying his eyes out.

The price of the best AK-47 rifles, made either in Russia or former Yugoslavia, has fallen from $2,200 before June to $500 now, he said, roughly the price paid for them in Egypt. The last shipment he knows about was bought and stored by a Gazan arms dealer as an investment, “hoping the situation will get bad again,” Muhammad said, laughing.

Chinese or Czech versions were $1,400, and now no one wants them.

An AK-47 bullet, before June, cost $8.80 — “the price of eight shwarma” sandwiches, he said, “enough to feed a family.” His profit was $6.58. Even before the Hamas election, in 2005, the price was between $3.45 and $4.40. Now a bullet costs $1.21.

In Egypt, the same bullet costs 73 cents, 40 percent less. But with the expense of tunneling and bribing, Muhammad said, the current profit on a bullet is less than 5 cents.

A rocket-propelled grenade launcher with six grenades cost $900 in Egypt and could be sold in Gaza for $6,000. Now, the price is $1,000, but no one is buying.

Before, a shipment of 300 AK’s, 500,000 bullets and 50 rocket-propelled grenades “was easy, light and quick, and made a profit of $500,000,” Muhammad said. “If you lost a tunnel, okay. But not now.”

Hamas is working with the Egyptians to destroy unauthorized tunnels, Muhammad said, while the Egyptians, under pressure from the United States and Israel, have recently changed all the security officers along the border, many of whom had been bought by smugglers. Egypt, he said, is clearing 300 meters of houses from the Egyptian side of Rafah, a city cut in two by the border.

When Israel cleared Palestinian houses in Rafah to stop smuggling tunnels, there was an international uproar and many demonstrations. Will there be demonstrations in Egypt? Muhammad roared with laughter.

Go ahead and laugh, Muhammad.

73 Thanos  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:19:28pm

I refuse to go to an OJ thread.

74 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:19:45pm

re: #42 Thanos

re: #3 jcm
Sneaksie JCM, Sneaksie... you must be one of those Hobbittses!

No, Precious, Hobbitses are false and tricksy!

OldLineTexan

75 Highrise  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:19:52pm

re: #60 JammieWearingFool

I really want to know why this is being allowed..there has got to be a reason behind closed doors why we are allowing this. I don't buy the fact that they NEED to attend the UN meeting on USA soil. With technology nowadays, I'm sure hollywood would be happy to set them both up with video conferencing. michael moore will oblige.

/wake me up when this is over...I don't get it.

76 lurknomore  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:20:12pm

re: #65 Highrise

who takes care of ya...

;)

77 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:20:55pm

re: #66 EC Marm

re: #46 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet


re: #10 jcm

You could have fixed the 'there'/'their' homonym error while you were at it.


I suspect jcm has homonymphobica.

Better than homonymphomania.

OldLineTexan

78 EE  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:21:17pm

re: #30 Thanos

re: #27 EE

What the UN Human Rights Head did not notice: the renaissance of Hizb ut-Tahrir. This organization calls for a caliphate headquartered in the Middle East. It also calls for the murder of every Jew. Not something that would be noticed by any UN official, of course. And not an organization that is outlawed by the UK.
[Link: www.jpost.com...]


Speaking of, New report on HuT in the UK
[Link: jamestown.org...]

Thanks for that update on what is going on, regarding pressure for Hizb ut Tahrir to become more moderate.
But I think that just means showing the kafir a more moderate face; the organization will still be radical, as far as what it says and does among Muslims. It will recruit for the caliphate, the khilafa. It will recruit jihadis to get rid of regimes that are not sufficiently radical to meet its standards of islamofascism. It will incite Islamic armies to fight to kill the Jews. It will still tell Muslims that they should murder all Jews.

In my opinion this attempt to put a nice face on this radical organization is like putting lipstick on a pig; it will remain a pig, lipstick or no lipstick.

Hizb ut-Tahrir has been banned in a number of countries, especially those where HuT has been trying to overturn the regime and to carry out terrorist jihad. Britain should not kid itself into thinking that it is immune from the goals of Hizb ut-Tahrir. By keeping Hizb ut-Tahrir legal, and refusing to outlaw it, the UK is following the picture of an appeaser.

"An appeaser," said Sir Winston Churchill, "is someone who feeds the crocodile hopining that the crocodile will eat him last".

That's what the government of the UK is doing with regard to Hizb ut-Tahrir. It allows this radical organization to recruit freely, to raise funds, to incite to jihad for the khilafa, to plot, to carry out all of its work. All this is done, all this to feed the crocodile, in the hope that the crocodile will eat Britain last. And after so much of the world is eaten by the crocodile, who is going to come to Britain's aid? This is the wrong strategy, this strategy of feeding the crocodile. The croc should be killed, or incapacitated as much as possible. Then it will not be a threat to other countries, and it will not be a threat to Britain.

Outlaw Hizb ut-Tahrir, and don't continue to feed the crocodile.

79 IowaInfidel  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:21:25pm

Feh! When anyone from the UN accuses muslims of infidelophobia, I'll start to listen to them again. Until then, they're irrelevant.

Muck de fuslims.

80 OldLineTexan  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:21:38pm

re: #73 Thanos

I refuse to go to an OJ thread.

AMEN!

OldLineTexan

81 defender  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:22:12pm

Resistance to Islamic Subjugation = Intolerance

/UN Calculus

82 darkster2400  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:22:37pm

As a Canadian, and as a lawyer to boot, I am ashamed to acknowledge that Louise Arbour hails from the Great White North. She would not know what human rights were if they bit her on the nose, or, maybe more appropriately given her current comments about Islamophobia, blew her up.

83 meMarc  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:23:17pm

Where is everybody?

84 lurknomore  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:24:02pm

And anyway, why would we want to participate in an "OJ" thread...Charles, how could you STOOP to such pathetic-ness...(I don't care if that is not a word)

Seriously, this story is all the msn cares about- non important CRAP

85 Thanos  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:24:23pm

re: #78 EE
Yeah, I don't agree with the conclusion they've made... that's like granting the Taliban a ceasefire. Silliness.

86 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:24:25pm

re: #83 meMarc

Over on the OJ thread.

87 marsouin  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:24:31pm

The whores and sluts are at it again. The funny thing, they actually pretend as though they mean it.

88 Paul  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:24:53pm

I think stereotyping the citizens of an entire continent as bigots is, in fact, an act of bigotry on the part of Ms. Arbour and the U.N. The U.N. itself is infected with anti-western bigotry, something that can be called "Occidentophobia" or an irrational hatred of Western civilization.

The U.N. has institutionalized hatred of the West and its values and it's time for the citizens of Western nations to demand their respective government cease the funding these attacks on our culture, our mores and our dignity.

89 darkster2400  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:25:03pm

from Wikipedia:

A report by French magistrate Jean-Louis Bruguière has alleged that Arbour refused to examine certain avenues of investigation concerning the downing of the flight carrying the Presidents of Rwanda and Burundi in 1994, which sparked the Rwandan Genocide. Allegedly, Arbour in 1997 (then the war crimes prosecutor based in The Hague) ordered investigators to cease examining whether current President of Rwanda Paul Kagame was responsible for the missile launch that downed the plane.

90 Trinitytim  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:25:05pm

Just saw something on FOX that said the Muslim Brotherhood is asking for the US Constitution to be replaced by Islamic Rule. they claim our constitution is outdated.

Never Submit.

91 EC Marm  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:25:15pm

re: #73 Thanos

I refuse to go to an OJ thread.

Say something good about Fred Goldman.

92 meMarc  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:25:19pm

re: #86 Jim in Virginia

You're just encouraging him.

93 yenta-fada  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:25:59pm

Wait a sec...I'm having a deja vu all over again:

Mrs. Louise Arbour, High Commissioner
UN High Commission for Human Rights
Palais Wilson, CH 1211 Geneva 10
Switzerland – Suisse

Paris, 6 January 2005

Dear Madam High Commissioner,

On 25 March 2003, the Simon Wiesenthal Centre requested the UNHRC Chair to withdraw Rapporteur on Racism Mr. Doudou Diène's reports due to their lack of equilibrium and even denial. His well-documented 57-paragraph report on Islamophobia (E/CN.4/2003/23 "Situation Of Muslim And Arab Peoples In Various Parts Of The World In The Aftermath Of The Events Of 11 September 2001") was accompanied by a 40 paragraph counterpart on other forms of racism (E/CN.4/2003/24 "Contemporary Forms Of Racism, Racial Discrimination, Xenophobia And Intolerance"). This contained only one paragraph (n° 38), which states that he had "received from the Government of Israel and from several Jewish NGOs allegations of the large-scale distribution in the Middle East and in Europe of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion... the document apparently appeared... In one Middle Eastern country, a private television channel has allegedly produced and shown the Protocols.”

94 meMarc  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:26:03pm

re: #91 EC Marm

Takes guts to wear such a stupid mustache.

95 lurknomore  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:26:46pm

re: #90 Trinitytim

Are we all prepared to fight to the death w/ these sub-humans? It's coming...

96 darkster2400  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:26:55pm

Also from Wikipedia:

Madam Louise Arbour has been awarded honorary doctorates by twenty-seven universities. She is also the subject of a 2005 fact-based Canadian-German made-for-television movie, entitled Hunt For Justice which follows her quest to indict Bosnian war criminals. Arbour was played by Canadian actress Wendy Crewson.

I can't imagine what editing the above might elicit...

97 Abu Bin Squid  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:27:40pm

#91 EC MARM
You comment about Fred Goldman on the OJ thread was be touching.
Not that I was over there or something.

98 defender  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:27:59pm

re: #72 Maine's Michael

A front page headline is how the Palestinian economy is suffering because of shipping constraints brought on by isolation.

Or, perhaps also the market has been flooded with freebies from Iran.

99 lurknomore  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:28:16pm

God Bless you all tonight, good-night till next time...

100 sa trawler  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:28:28pm

Heaven is the only place where there will be no mu slims, and very few Democrats.

and I don't want 72 virgins, why would you want 72 more mouths asking over and over where you were at 7:00?

101 Friend of USA  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:28:47pm

So I'm not the only Canadian who's ashamed of Arbour...

A least I can be proud of our Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper who's party I just sent a check to today!

102 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:28:48pm

re: #24 Killian Bundy

I was just about to pop back over there, 'cuz I figured you would have an answer.

I kind of thought it was BS, but for the life of me don't know enough about puts and calls to know why.

Thanks.

103 derkrieger  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:29:09pm

I guess it didn't occur to her that just maybe the rise in Islamophobia is a reaction to the the aggression of Muslims in Europe. Nationalism and xenophobia are reactionary phenomena that don't exist in a vacuum, i.e. if Europe were either Muslim free or the Muslims behaved like civilized people there would be no Islamophobia.

104 Abu Bin Squid  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:29:25pm

#97 illiterate Squid
PIMF: "was be touching"

105 EE  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:29:27pm

re: #85 Thanos

re: #78 EE
Yeah, I don't agree with the conclusion they've made... that's like granting the Taliban a ceasefire. Silliness.

I agree with you.

Human beings will go to great lengths to rationalize their pre-chosen decision to do nothing significant about a great problem that they face. If they trivialize the problem, then they don't have to do anything about it (in their mind). But Hizb ut-Tahrir is not going to be moderate, no matter what lipstick is put on the pig.


An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.


--- Sir Winston Churchill

106 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:32:01pm

re: #78 EE

By keeping Hizb ut-Tahrir legal, and refusing to outlaw it, the UK is following the picture of an appeaser.

I believe Charles had a thread concerning this- IIRC it was a video thread where officials were concerned that banning hizb ut-tahrir would drive their rhetoric underground. The argument was, of course, ridiculous in that the officials seem to think the public statements are all they are saying. The true message of hizb ut-tahrir already is underground. It called it as a BS excuse. They are appeasers and Sir Churchill must be rolling in his grave.

107 EE  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:32:47pm

re #105
They are putting flowers on the croc, and pretending that it's a flower-child.
Then they can continue to feed it.

108 l'omega  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:33:08pm

I think Islamophobia is a poor choice of words if it is meant to describe unjustified discrimination against Muslims. Given the many violent and horrifying acts committed by Muslims in the cause of their faith,fear of Islam is justified. In fact, I would argue that Muslims have more to fear from each other than they have to fear from Jews, Christians, Hindus or Buddhists (despite the fact that Muslims are in conflict with all of these religious groups). Witness the slaying of Shiites in Irak and Pakistan by Sunnis, or the fighting between Hamas and Fatah.

109 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:33:23pm

Investigator DooDoo?

Oh brother, they're multiplying. We're in for it now.

110 peck  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:33:30pm

re: #79 IowaInfidel

I think the Muslims suffer from Christaphobia. It is the only explanation for their insanity.

111 txlady  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:34:50pm

She was "Vice-President of the Canadian Civil Liberties Association" so that tells you something about her

112 coldpizza  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:36:13pm

I heard she has High blood pressure. If we all prey at the same time maybe she will have coronary. As a Canadian I'm embarrassed that Trash like Arbor even came from my Country. She is a Rabid anti-Semite.

113 EE  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:36:23pm

re: #106 Sharmuta

re: #78 EE

By keeping Hizb ut-Tahrir legal, and refusing to outlaw it, the UK is following the picture of an appeaser.

I believe Charles had a thread concerning this- IIRC it was a video thread where officials were concerned that banning hizb ut-tahrir would drive their rhetoric underground. The argument was, of course, ridiculous in that the officials seem to think the public statements are all they are saying. The true message of hizb ut-tahrir already is underground. It called it as a BS excuse. They are appeasers and Sir Churchill must be rolling in his grave.

You are right, of course.

The real reason for officials' not recognizing the danger of Hizb ut-Tahrir is that once the dangers are recognised, then officials will have to do something about it. So they make up all kinds of excuses, to allow them to do nothing of significance. That is what people love to do: nothing.

114 Friend of USA  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:39:23pm

What's the difference between Louise Arbour and OJ Simpson ?

None!

They both are responsible for the death of innocent people and they both run free.

115 Wilderstad  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:39:33pm

I've read several articles on the woman. Here's one:

[Link: www.theinterim.com...]

From that article: "Arbour's reputation for being openly political, even when her behaviour risks undermining the reputation she needs to operate effectively in the courts, extends to the international sphere. While sitting on the tribunal (on leave from the Ontario Court of Appeal), she openly lobbied in favour of the International Criminal Court. "For example, on Dec. 8, 1997, she appeared before the preparatory committee on the establishment of an International Criminal Court in New York, to personally argue in support of a strong independent prosecutor," notes Landolt.

The ICC statute, agreed upon last year by Canada and most other countries, met with strong resistance from advocates of national sovereignty, as well as from social conservatives who objected to the concepts and terminology used to define the jurisdiction of the court, and the "human rights" violations it is supposed to prosecute. Canada's official delegates, however, lobbied hard "to turn the ICC into a powerful vehicle to promote worldwide radical feminism, including abortion and homosexual rights," charges Landolt."

116 yenta-fada  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:39:43pm

Re #103 derkrieger:

"I guess it didn't occur to her that just maybe the rise in Islamophobia is a reaction to the the aggression of Muslims in Europe. Nationalism and xenophobia are reactionary phenomena that don't exist in a vacuum, i.e. if Europe were either Muslim free or the Muslims behaved like civilized people there would be no Islamophobia."

You are being too kind to Ms. Arbour to suppose she is rational.
She's an unrelenting Jew hater who is happy siding with Islam.
She is not an appeaser. She is a traitor to the West with the
full blessings of the leftover Trudeau era commies. Anti-Semitism
has been, and continues to be popular in her home Province of
Quebec. Some of their politicians cheer and march in public with
Hezbollah flag wavers.

117 stevieray  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:40:07pm

Does the expression "riding the tiger" ring any bells?

I think some in the EU bureaucracy are starting to understand that in time the Muslim wave crashing over the Western world is not going to lessen, but become more fierce, more rigid, more intolerant... but they have no way to stop it now.

Between the promises to the oil ticks, the deals made with mad potentates, and the promises made to the Muslims already in their countries, the typical euro-politician is pinned to the wall with their own words. If they were to admit that the grand experiment in multiculturalism wasn't working, the whole pyramid scheme that is the EU financial model would come crashing down. Without new adult taxpaying immigrants, the books are too far out of whack to fudge. Even though each new immigrant ends up costing more than they ever could pay in taxes, the train keeps a rollin'... pushing the collapse a little further down the tracks... with a bigger crash when the bills come due.

Some EU politicians have been hinting about the troubles... that's why this warning shot was fired. She shouldn't have bothered. The weasels that run Europe will not turn on the immigrants, no matter the level of violence, because they can't. They would be eaten if they jumped. They can't get off that tiger.

118 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:41:34pm

re: #113 EE

That is what people love to do: nothing.

Indeed. Doing something requires work, and the first bit of work is critical thinking. Wouldn't want to do that, now would we?

/Thinking is hard and stuff!

119 Beobachter  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:43:37pm

re: #9 JammieWearingFool

The United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights.

Heh.

If she spoke out in Iran, she be the United Nations Stoned Commissioner for Human Rights.



That's a good one !

However, there is some truth to it. I would say that she and many others like her are stoned. Not in the Iranian sense of being stoned, but in the Western sense of bring stoned, you know what I mean.

120 Alouette  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:44:42pm

Doudoudienne?

Isn't that the name of the anti-Semitic French comedian?

121 Peter_Wiggin  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:46:44pm

Do they have any sort of proof of islamaphobia? Seems that when Catholic bishops are telling their congregations to use the word allah that Europe is suffering from islamabendoverandtakeit.

122 EE  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:47:07pm

Here is a possible list of categories of people in the UK who don't want to outlaw Hizb ut-Tahrir: Islamists (who agree with its goals); those allied with the Islamists (including the radical Left; can't annoy their partners, you know); those who hate the enemies of Hizb ut-Tahrir (the enemy of my enemy is my friend, they figure) (and some in the UK hate not only Bush, but also America, and there are some folks who are not overly fond of the Jews either, including neo-nazis, and neo-antisemites); appeasers; cowards; sloths.

With all these types eager to keep Hizb ut-Tahrir legal, and keep it in business, what's an ordinary person in the UK to do?

123 justamomof4  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:50:53pm
bigotry and prejudice, especially in regard to Muslims, were common in Europe

One can only hope that Europeans really are waking up and that concern about Islam is a growing trend.

124 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:53:11pm

re: #122 EE

With all these types eager to keep Hizb ut-Tahrir legal, and keep it in business, what's an ordinary person in the UK to do?

Not only do people like to do nothing, but people like to pass the buck. I thought I heard many were just leaving the UK, because taking a stand and fighting is as much work as thinking critically.

125 nyc redneck  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 6:54:46pm

re: #52 Syrah

re: #50 nyc redneck

i really do believe that at some point the unwashed masses will rise up and lay low these elitist scum who presume to tell us how to be in the world. we will reach our breaking point. (btw, i ust had a nice hot bath w/ bubbles)
Those "unwashed masses" will most likely do it while screaming "Allahu Akbar!"

no. i think we're not on the same " unwashed masses" page. lol. if my unwashed cohorts go down, they decidedly won't be screaming greetings to allah.

126 justadot  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:00:00pm

re: #106 Sharmuta

re: #78 EE

By keeping Hizb ut-Tahrir legal, and refusing to outlaw it, the UK is following the picture of an appeaser.

I believe Charles had a thread concerning this- IIRC it was a video thread where officials were concerned that banning hizb ut-tahrir would drive their rhetoric underground. The argument was, of course, ridiculous in that the officials seem to think the public statements are all they are saying. The true message of hizb ut-tahrir already is underground. It called it as a BS excuse. They are appeasers and Sir Churchill must be rolling in his grave.

For those interested, the thread Sharmuta is referring to is
Video: Hizb Ut Tahrir in Britain.
It includes the thoughts of Shiraz Maher, a former member of hizb ut-tahrir. More on him at
Video: Former Hizb Ut-Tahrir Member Speaks

Worth watching if you haven't seen it.
/excuse the interruption

127 Maximu§  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:00:35pm

This Hag reminds me of Janet Reno.


Maximu§
3/11 ACR

128 PineCone  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:01:37pm

The people of Europe are beginning to wake up to the threat that Islam is posing to them and realize that they need to stop Islam before it completely takes over their culture. I hope they are not too late. As for the UN, they can go to hell. They are a big part of the problem, and will never be part of the solution.

129 Aisha  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:01:42pm

It is true that the Euros are Islamophobic. My brother Achmed was doing an honour killing in Paris, and he got arrested. then my uncle Mohammed was doing a clitorectomy with a piece of broken glass, no anasthesic, and the police in Brussells told him that he had to stop. Well, kufr, that is both haraam and persecution of the Muslims. Why is it that the Jews always get a free pass on this stuff when they kill Muslims in Palestine, and cut off the willies of little boys? Oh Allah! Just because Hitler, if the history books are correct, which is not proven, killed some Jews, why is it that the Muslims have to suffer? And then there was the time that Aisha got arrested for allegedly wearing a bomb vest in a Synagogue, and the police in London wouldn't pluck the hairs out of her front-bottom, and wouldn't provide her with a toilet facing sideways-to-the-quiblah, which is required by the sunnah of Our Beloved Nabi (SAW).

May they all be subjected to the punishment of Allah Taala.

130 irish rose  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:01:56pm

The scandal-ridden U.N. is a sham, a crooked and completely ineffective body.

It has become little more than a milquetoast mouthpiece for radical Islam, a platform for paid shills, a funder and enabler to those who support global jihad and promote antisemitism.

They intervene in human rights issues only when it supports their sick and increasingly transparent "global agenda".

Dear President Bush: WHY is the U.S. still a member of the U.N.?
Dear Department of Homeland Security: WHY is the terror-enabling U.N. still in the U.S.?

The U.N. has institutionalized hatred of the West and its values and it's time for the citizens of Western nations to demand their respective government cease the funding these attacks on our culture, our mores and our dignity.

Well said Paul #88, and I fully concur.

131 sheik yer'mami  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:02:30pm

Sheik yer'mami's take here:

Luise Arbour: A Candidate For Gitmo?

* The slime from the UN:
Are they all on the take or are they just stupid? Or both?
This dumb twit is whoring for the caliphate just like Islamiane Ammanwhore...


[Link: sheikyermami.com...]

132 Maximu§  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:03:43pm

re: #129 Aisha


Get the F**K outta here!

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

133 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:04:42pm

re: #129 Aisha

Heh.

134 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:05:05pm

re: #132 Maximu%uFFFD

Dude- Aisha is satire.

135 Maximu§  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:06:32pm

re: #134 Sharmuta

re: #132 Maximu©

Dude- Aisha is satire.

Doh

136 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:07:20pm

re: #126 justadot

/excuse the interruption

No, no! Thanks for digging it up- now others can see that of which EE and I were speaking. Good job.

137 irish rose  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:07:31pm

re: #132 Maximu§

re: #129 Aisha


Get the F**K outta here!

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

But your heart was in the right place ;).

138 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:08:06pm

re: #135 Maximu%uFFFD

Don't worry- you're not the first.

139 Attaboid  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:08:40pm

An example of an Ugly Canadian.

Arbour= tree.

140 EC Marm  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:10:29pm

re: #138 Sharmuta
S/he got me once too. Fortunately, ChrisTheProfessor was kindly enough to clue me in.

141 justadot  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:11:03pm

re: #136 Sharmuta

Thanks. It's good to get refreshed on old threads. Gotta love that search function.

142 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:12:38pm

re: #135 Maximu§

re: #134 Sharmuta

re: #132 Maximu©

Dude- Aisha is satire.

Doh

She gets one of us about every three months or so.

I wish the regulars wouldn't be so quick to let on. It's fun watching Aisha tweak a newby's melon.

143 Maximu§  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:12:58pm

re: #137 irish rose

re: #132 Maximu§


re: #129 Aisha


Get the F**K outta here!

Maximu§
3/11 ACR


But your heart was in the right place ;).

Thanks Princess.

Max

144 Shaky Louie  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:15:20pm

"An appeaser, such as Ms. Arbour," said Sir Winston Churchill, "is someone who feeds the crocodile hoping that the crocodile will eat her last".
Way to misquote, Shaky!
Yeah, but I'll bet he would say that!
The hungry croc, having eaten will eat again.

145 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:15:26pm

re: #142 Noam Sayin'

Point taken- I'll let Aisha have fun next time. Sorry Aisha.

146 m  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:17:11pm

Aisha there are better ways to the smooth front bottom ya know~

/but Allah Taala knows best!

147 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:17:40pm

re: #145 Sharmuta

Maybe if we just did a...

tee hee

it would be enough of a signal to clue everybody else in. Then sit back and watch the fun.

148 sh007r  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:18:37pm

re: #7 ibrodsky

She's just jockeying for position for when the IslamoNazis take over.



And she's been jockeying for quite a while.

"A report by French magistrate Jean-Louis Bruguière has alleged that Arbour refused to examine certain avenues of investigation concerning the downing of the flight carrying the Presidents of Rwanda and Burundi in 1994, which sparked the Rwandan Genocide.[12] Allegedly, Arbour in 1997 (then the war crimes prosecutor based in The Hague) ordered investigators to cease examining whether current President of Rwanda Paul Kagame was responsible for the missile launch that downed the plane."
13 years

and counting. Might be she IS the islamonazi.

149 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:18:48pm

With the ratings feature we'll now be able to see who gets Aisha and who doesn't. Current Rating= 5... +6, -1.

150 Sharmuta  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:19:13pm

re: #147 Noam Sayin'

I tried! I said "Heh".

151 cousin it  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:21:52pm

I saw that Taiwan wants a seat at the UN, think GWB would be willing to sell them ours?

152 Capitalistincharge  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:22:52pm

re: #75 Highrise

I second that notion...what don't we know, cause this is insane.

153 rtheyserius  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:25:18pm
"UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Louise Arbour...condemned...Europe for...bigotry"

Makes perfect sense. Condemn the victims of bigotry for objecting to the bigotry of the aggressors.

Psychology has a term for this. It's called "identifying with the aggressor". It's considered a form of psychopathology, common in those who have been victimized by aggressors.

Collectively, this is what aggressors, particularly terrorists, depend upon.

The good news is that about half of a given population is not susceptible ('Your Jedi tricks won't work on me!') and fights back. That would be us.

154 jihad_for_what  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:29:44pm

Apparently being critical of, and expressing my concerns with Islam and its political agendas makes me Islamophobic.

Does being critical of, and expressing my concerns with the UN and its political agendas make me UNphobic?

155 Drained Brain  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:34:07pm

re: #18 Pro-Bush Canuck

Louise Arbour is a (excuse my language) fucking Canadian communist bitch. This is what Canada specializes in these days: providing the world with viciously evil Marxist robots to pollute the globe with anti-Western libel.

She deserves (self-censored) from every (self-censored) in her entire (self-censored).

Other than being too restrained, you've pretty well nailed it.

156 EE  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:34:38pm

re: #126 justadot

re: #106 Sharmuta

re: #78 EE

By keeping Hizb ut-Tahrir legal, and refusing to outlaw it, the UK is following the picture of an appeaser.

I believe Charles had a thread concerning this- IIRC it was a video thread where officials were concerned that banning hizb ut-tahrir would drive their rhetoric underground. The argument was, of course, ridiculous in that the officials seem to think the public statements are all they are saying. The true message of hizb ut-tahrir already is underground. It called it as a BS excuse. They are appeasers and Sir Churchill must be rolling in his grave.

For those interested, the thread Sharmuta is referring to is
Video: Hizb Ut Tahrir in Britain.
It includes the thoughts of Shiraz Maher, a former member of hizb ut-tahrir. More on him at
Video: Former Hizb Ut-Tahrir Member Speaks

Worth watching if you haven't seen it.
/excuse the interruption

Thanks for those links to interesting videos here at LGF on Hizb ut-Tahrir.
One thing that everyone in the video agrees on is that Hizb ut-Tahrir is a force for radicalizing Muslims. Nobody disputes that.

Radicalizing Muslims leads to bringing them to terrorist jihad.
Besides, the underground actions of Hizb ut-Tahrir support their basic agenda of bringing about a caliphate by toppling existing regimes. That makes them revolutionary, and they are outlawed in various countries that are at the front of their jihad activities.

Is speech without legal limits? I don't think one is allowed to scream "Fire!" in a crowded theatre. That's because the consequences of doing that would be disastrous. So what has to be considered are the consequences of speaking.

Same with the work of Hizb ut-Tahrir in radicalizing Muslims, as everyone seems to agree that that is something that they do. The consequences of doing that involve producing jhadis, which is contrary to the public safety, in Britain and elsewhere. Can't that be sufficient grounds to outlaw Hizb ut-Tahrir?

And isn't Britain a member of the international community also? How can it keep legal an organization that is subversive and revolutionary and terrorist-oriented in other countries with which Britain has diplomatic relations? If Hizb ut-Tahrir's actions abroad are terrorist and involve war crimes, how can an upstanding state like the UK aid and abet such things by keeping Hizb ut-Tahrir legal, and fully operational in Britain?

157 rightymouse  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:38:14pm

"United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Louise Arbour said on Monday that bigotry and prejudice, especially in regard to Muslims non-Muslims, were common in Europe and called on governments to tackle the issue. "

Much better. And also:

"The report by investigator Doudou Diene of Senegal documented what he called an alarming rise in intolerance, and in particular Islamophobia hatred of everything by Islam, in European countries, and Arbour said, “I have no reason not to share his concerns.”

158 Syrah  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:40:54pm

re: #125 nyc redneck

no. i think we're not on the same " unwashed masses" page. lol. if my unwashed cohorts go down, they decidedly won't be screaming greetings to allah.

True enough. I am not an optimist enough to think that our "unwashed masses" will take up the necessary challenge.

The Demographic advantage will soon go to the Muslim hoards in Europe. They are certainly unwashed and when massed or when killing infidels, are oft to be heard praising their god of the black rock.

159 cartoonboy  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:48:19pm

What a load of Doudou

160 ladycatnip  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:48:25pm

#154 jihad_for_what

Apparently being critical of, and expressing my concerns with Islam and its political agendas makes me Islamophobic.

Hard to tell if there was forethought to pc'ness, but the left set us up pretty good back in the day it started... Always screaming racist!, bigot! or invectives ending with phobe on anyone who dares disagree with them. Now islam is milking it to the max.

161 rightymouse  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:50:44pm

re: #129 Aisha

You da bomb, babe. LOL!

162 cartoonboy  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:52:02pm

When Doudou talks, diversity concerned Europeans listen.

163 cartoonboy  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:55:29pm

What are the chances of Doudou getting a sympathetic ear here in the states?
I think Doudou's time has come.
All hail Doudou.
Bow to Doudou.
Doudou's truth is self-evident.

164 markie  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:57:10pm

I'm still trying to figure out what the UN is good for, besides squandering money.

165 cartoonboy  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 7:58:33pm

Doudou has raised the alarm. We must all follow Doudou's lead-with the prerequisite pooper-scooper of course.

166 stevieray  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 8:00:27pm

Please don't be fooled by the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights... she is completely aware of the atrocious behavior of the Muslims of Europe. In her mind, and the minds of her fellow internationalists, the crime and intolerance displayed by the immigrants toward the native population fits snugly into the "you must break some eggs to make an omelet" category.

They big picture is an eventual rough homogenization of the world... no intact peoples, no rich nations, no "first" or "third" world. The introduction of the "unassimilatable" into the West is necessary... the high must be brought low. Haven't you noticed yet that the guilt-ridden left already thinks the riches of the West are unfair? Unjust? Unearned? Our nations' children are being prepared for the decline that the left is engineering for us... and the worst among us actually welcome it.

People like her will lie when they have to, they will browbeat when the must, and they will accelerate the influx if need be to achieve their goals. They figure that they can get things so far gone that they cannot be changed even when the misguided masses wake up. And I'll bet that she thinks someday the world will thank her and her descendants for their foresight... she thinks she's making the world a better place... and she just needs to fool the ignorant xenophobic masses for a generation or two.

She is wrong on all counts... civil war will come like it always does... bottom up.

167 Nemo  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 8:06:03pm

I have often wondered when the term islamophobia is used in that context, is it referring to the fear that you too might be a muslim? Or is it the fear that a muslim is going to strap on a bomb, enter a bus / market place / house of worship (other than a mosque of course) and kill you, your wife, your child, and/or other innocent people? Come on people, really, there's no real reason to be even a little concerned about what muslims might be up too.).

168 rightymouse  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 8:11:47pm

Louise Arbour is such a coward. She knows by speaking on behalf of murderous thugs, hell-bent on the destruction of Western Civilization, that the Pope certainly isn't going to put out a fatwah on her and call for her execution. But if she ever challenged the Islamists who are really causing all the problems in Europe, she'd be a marked person.

Bah.

169 phoenix360  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 8:17:10pm

Where are the anti Christian, anti western, anti European, anti Latin, anti Buddhist, anti Jew, anti etc...

Where are the Commissions, boards, panels, groups, foundations etc... in the U.N and across the middle eastto address the hate?

Where?

170 dak  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 8:17:37pm

Tell her:

Criss ton camps de mon pays, estie de vache. Va en Arabie Saoudite, espece de pute, voir comment ils vont te traiter. Et apporte ton crucifix, pour le fun.

171 straitcircle  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 8:20:06pm

But it also criticized Islamic states for their treatment of non-Muslim minorities and for refusing to recognize the right of people born into Islam to change their religion. -- embedded deep in the article.

So this justifies the lead headline of "U.N. rights chief sees bigotry in Europe on Islam " ?

172 stevieray  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 8:25:37pm

re: #166 stevieray

Hello! People! She's a cultural marxist! She knows what she says is a lie... it is inverted... that is her whole point!

She is just another international leftist... she hates western culture and actively seeks to undermine and destroy it. She will knowingly defend the indefensible because it serves her larger purpose!

Its not blindness, its not fear... it is marxism, plain and simple.

173 paybacktime  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 8:32:17pm

They're in DEEP DOUDOU.

174 Nemo  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 8:34:28pm

re: #172 stevieray
Hello! People! She's a cultural marxist! She knows what she says is a lie... it is inverted... that is her whole point!

Yes, you are right.

"It is nothing short of staggering that the myth of Islamic tolerance could have gained such currency in the teeth of Muhammad's open contempt and hatred for Jews and Christians, incitements of violence against them, and calls that they be converted or subjugated. While human nature is everywhere the same and Muslims can, of course, act as tolerantly as anyone else, the example of Muhammad, the highest model for human behavior [according to Muslim belief - CSM], constantly pulls them in a different direction. The fact that Western analysts ignore all this demonstrates the ease with which people can be convinced of something they wish to believe, regardless of overwhelming evidence to the contrary." -- Robert Spencer

175 Said Infidel  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 8:51:16pm

Dec 27th 2005 - regarding the cartoon contraversy.

"she is concerned over the drawings that Jyllands-Posten printed in September, expressing "apologies" for statements and actions demonstrating a lack of respect for the religion of other people."
[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

Treacherous, traitorous, commie BITCH.
She should be ostracised out of the country.

176 AZDave  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 8:55:15pm

All things being equal, who would the Europeans hate more a peaceful Jew or an Islamofascist?

The Jew, of course. They're getting what they deserve (IMHO).

177 stevieray  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 9:00:24pm

re: #174 Nemo

Nice quote from Spencer... he really understands what is going on.

I see it like this:

The intellectuals and bureaucrats like Louise Arbour are trying to do to an "Abu Graib" to entire nations.

They will lie, and keep lying about Muslim violence, knowing that eventually some Euro-natives will snap and strike back against a mosque or Muslim school... and then they and their allies in the media will relentlessly pound the new European-on-Muslim hate crimes into the conscience of the population. Over and over they will play it, analyze it, parse it and spin it until the people of Europe believe they are no better than the invaders in their midst.

The cultural marxist operates by undermining, by severing a people from their roots. When the people have been whipsawed into near catatonia, the reprogramming will begin in earnest. The phrase "freedom is submission" will be borrowed from a nameless religion and sold to the mentally bloodied masses... and most will buy it, for most cannot stand the cultural vertigo.

Its been said before by others in here; the left thinks they are using the "primitives", and the Muslims think they are plucking lefty chickens. A marriage of convenience with a brutal divorce in the cards.

178 AZDave  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 9:01:13pm

re: #148 sh007r

re: #7 ibrodsky

She's just jockeying for position for when the IslamoNazis take over.

[snip]

Yep, they'll dress her up in a nice clean orange jumpsuit before they hack off her head. So many infidels and not enough sharp knives. Such a pity.

179 pablito  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 9:01:21pm

re: #176 AZDave

That's probably why they murdered all of their Jews and replaced them with Muslims.

What they get now is poetic justice, IMO.

180 Wendya  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 9:31:18pm

Gee...I wonder why people in Europe are fed up with Muslims.


Hmmm...

181 Aisha  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 9:45:31pm

Aisha is in a public internet place sitting next to a Muslimah wearing a niquab. Asking her about her favourite shar'ee shave might not be prudent, all things considered! Peace and blessings of Allah Taala to all, except the Jews and the non-Muslims and the kafir and the apostates, and those with bristle on the front-bottom (like this pious Muslimah next to me probably has...)

182 Steve Young  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 10:27:18pm

re: #119 Beobachter

re: #9 JammieWearingFool


The United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights.

Heh.

If she spoke out in Iran, she be the United Nations Stoned Commissioner for Human Rights.



That's a good one !

However, there is some truth to it. I would say that she and many others like her are stoned. Not in the Iranian sense of being stoned, but in the Western sense of bring stoned, you know what I mean.

Well she is the "High" Commissioner after all!

183 RoughRider  Tue, Sep 18, 2007 10:38:39pm
United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Louise Arbour said on Monday that bigotry and prejudice, especially in regard to those practices carried out by Muslims, were common in Europe and called on governments to tackle the issue.

seems to make a lot more sense to me.

184 Boazhorribilis  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 12:30:38am

re: #126 justadot


re: #106 Sharmuta

re: #78 EE

By keeping Hizb ut-Tahrir legal, and refusing to outlaw it, the UK is following the picture of an appeaser.

In a nutshell, at the end of the clip: Gently, gently, hey..hey...hey!

185 shmu  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 3:31:30am

The United nations...is the sickest most corrupt institution on american soil ...time to remove the cancer

186 wolfgang  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 3:50:41am

Quite frankly, it's becoming more apparent that Mohammed was the Anti Christ. His followers are busily doing his dirty work today in preparation for his reappearance and everything else that this entails. We, as a Christian Nation, should recognize this for the threat it presents and get down to business, instead of letting Carl Levin (D-Dearbornistan) and his cohorts dictate the downfall of Western Civilization on His terms

187 cry of defiance and not of fear  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 4:35:56am

It's not all dhimmitude and surrender in Europe:-

"No Sharia Here"
Brussels Journal link to the fuller article:
http:/www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2478null

Member of European Parliament speaking on 18 September:

"Islamic law laid donwn in the Sharia is not compatible with European fundamental rights and standards. The fact that there are different forms of Sharia does not change anything in this matter."

188 dcbatlle  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 5:30:18am

There is no such thing as Islamophobia. It's a myth.

~Ayan Hirsi Ali

189 Challenger  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 5:37:50am

This garbage is so predictable from the UN. Why do we continue to support it as a viable solution to anything? It is brain dead.

190 Jed  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 5:56:54am

The way to end Islamophobia is for the Muslims to stop the fatwas and killings. Start being civilized humans instead of violent animals.

191 Goosio  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 6:00:51am

Double standard much?

192 brinkley  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 6:08:24am

sunni's and shia's are lining up to kill each other in Iraq.
muslims are killing in every country on the globe in the name of islam.

Seems to me, there's a lot of killing associated with Islam.

Maybe 'islamophobia' is just an indicator of higher brain function?

193 ChristianRepublic  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 6:10:58am

re: #54 El matamoros

The UN is even worse than you might realize:

Fearful Master: A Second Look at the United Nations: Books: G. Edward Griffin

It's a Bircher book worth reading.

194 samhein  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 6:22:39am

.."United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Louise Arbour said on Monday that bigotry and prejudice, especially in regard to Muslims, were common in Europe and called on governments to tackle the issue. .."

But she's right! In regard to muslims, they (muslims) are FULL of bigotry and prejudice. Oh...and she forgot hatred.

195 Ballistic Renegade  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 6:29:18am

OT

Anyone see this video?

I don't know how old it is, but found it today on Liveleak.

196 Williamnr  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 7:04:42am

Did you hear the one about the UN Human Rights Commissioner who complained about islamophobia in Europe?

When Europe fell to the RoP(tm) she could never show her face in public again.

Good thing the UN is spending its resources looking for rogue cartoonists or anyone that might profile a terrorist or else they might accidentally say something about antisemitism, persecution of Christians or the way women are treated under islamic regimes

197 arier_tzvi  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 7:07:46am

re: #148 sh007r

The CBC has a few interesting lefty links dedicated to MME Arbour. Dont forget even though she did her studies in Ontario part time and lived outside of Canada she still is part of the Xenophobic tribe of the Fwench Quebecoise which are sympathetic to the Islamic cause and most are anti-Jewish.
link 1. [Link: www.cbc.ca...]
link 2. [Link: www.cbc.ca...]
link 3. [Link: www.cbc.ca...]
On a related topic Quebecistan held three by elections in the province two nights ago. I can report that the Conservatives won one seat. The Bloc Quebecois won one seat and the NDP won a seat in the formerly liberal held riding of Outremont shutting out the liberal nominees.
Harper will wait until the Ontario and Newfoundland elections in order to call a possible election in and or prior to Dec 25, 2007.

198 CLLRusso  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 7:11:03am

re: #186 wolfgang

Quite frankly, it's becoming more apparent that Mohammed was the Anti Christ. His followers are busily doing his dirty work today in preparation for his reappearance and everything else that this entails. We, as a Christian Nation, should recognize this for the threat it presents and get down to business, instead of letting Carl Levin (D-Dearbornistan) and his cohorts dictate the downfall of Western Civilization on His terms

But most of the ignorant US citizens are just to busy watching American Idol, et al, to pay attention to how the country
is being eroded by political correctness and self indulgence.

199 opnion  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 7:44:50am

Let me see if I have this straight. This dogmatic politicaly correct UN official has her panties in a bunch over Islamopobia?
Uh huh. Then as an after thought she mentions that religious minorities & apostates in Muslim countries are not always treated well.
OK, let me see. She thinks that a hostile stare at a Muslim is somehow worse than executing religious minorities and apostates in the Islamic earthly paradises. Have I got it?

200 Deseeded  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 7:45:56am

Poor Doudou always wanted to know why he has to cover the bullsh*t stories.

201 maninthemiddle  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 8:29:14am

When one reads (in combination):
1. The voting pattern of Muslim immigrants in favor of the Islamist apologists and Islamophobia fear mongers (the socialist, left, labor parties in several countries)
2. The parties attempting to increase Muslim immigration in the name of (enter your own here - multi-culturalism, globalism, empathy toward those wanting a better life) - are the very same (socialists, left, labor).
3. Once again, these same parties (socialist, left, labor) are the driving forces for the EU superstate - and have been running into problems with an electorate not quite so motivated to hand their lives over to a monster, globalist bureaucracy - thus they need more sympathetic voters.

Thus, the left's goal of gaining a new and large constituency combines with the goal of national deconstruction in favor of the EU superstate.

We also see, of course, that Muslim dominant areas contain (increasingly) enclaves where native Europeans (even law enforcement) dare not tread. Add this to the obvious disdain that many immigrants hold for their hosts (not just verbal, but violent attacks, rapes, threats, and demands emanating from the immigrant communities) and we see that opposition to increased immigration, and calls for controls on current immigrants are not phobic, but a reflexive defensive action.

The problem is that the reflexive defensive action runs counter to the goals of the left - gaining the voting power for national deconstruction and preeminence of the EU.

202 RobCon  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 9:07:38am

EU - RIP

203 Is it me?  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 9:34:55am

The EU wouldn't know what the ordinary indiginous people of Europe felt if their lives depended on it.
The UN is unspeakable and a force for evil.

The Canadian posters have my sympathy, you are not alone in having people like This Woman (who needs her head extracted from the warm dark place it currently resides) in Europe we have the same thing.
But they are Politicians and have now proved themselves beyond question not to be Real People like the rest of us.

204 freewesterncanada  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 9:36:54am

Thus, the left's goal of gaining a new and large constituency combines with the goal of national deconstruction in favor of the EU superstate.

IE Theres no England anymore

In 10-20 years they might have open war.

205 Sabraguy  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 10:37:44am

This pompous bitch and her moonbat commission should be strung up from the nearest lampost. Is she completely unaware of Islamic bigotry, racism, intimidation and violence? Has she not heard of the mass murder in Madrid that killed over 200, and the London bomb that killed 50 and injured hundreds more?

Given the appalling record of Islam in Europe, its contempt for the Kaffir, and its openly proclaimed agenda for jihad, she should be praising Europeans for their restraint in not demolishing every single mosque on the continent, and for their admirable refusal to wreak vengeance on individual Muslims.

206 nutofthenorth  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 10:50:21am

I know that every country has their nutbars but twits like this makes us Canadians look like the creepy Euro-trash/lefty's. Granted Quebec and many of our politicos fit the mold but...

Ah crap, gotta stop before I dig myself any deeper and I'm a centrist by most standards .

207 bald headed geek  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 11:20:29am

I'm ashamed to be from the same country as her.

BHG

208 kansas  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 12:33:27pm

I got the Muslim foot basin figured out. They wear no shoes line up and bend over to pray. The row behind complains of stinky feet, ala foot bath.
What other orifice is aimed at the back row? New product. Muslim ass baths. Hey, is that comment too annoying or frivolous? Cracked my own self up.

209 arier_tzvi  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 1:30:17pm

re: #207 bald headed geek

Good to see you posting BHG. How are things?

210 Shaken  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 5:40:31pm

She covers her head as a symbol of what, tolerance?

Would she ever think for a moment that perhaps they need to tolerate her uncovered head?

How utterly foolish of her.

211 EE  Wed, Sep 19, 2007 7:20:29pm

Did it ever occur to her that the major problem that threatens civilization today is Islamic kafirophobia, involving not fear of the kafir, but a lethal hatred of the kafir?

Human rights includes a very important right that she seems to have forgotten: the right to live. The hyper-jihadism that exists in the world threatens people's right to live.

The main threat to civilization comes from the global jihad. And if that is stopped, and if radical Islamism is neutered so that it no longer is a threat, then there will not be any fear of radical Islamism. Or does she want the kafir world not to protect itself against the global jihad?

212 Rune  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:50:57am

As a proud - if somewhat unwashed European - I tell Louise Arbour to go stick her face in a bucket.


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