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Hamas Video: 'In Black Bags, Chunks of Flesh of Jews'

Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 8:34:56 am PDT

The savages of Hamas aired a “music video” in Hebrew yesterday, boasting about murder and filled with clips of masked terrorists and suicide bombings.

Jimmy Carter’s friends.

(Courtesy of MEMRI TV.)

Click picture to play video. Requires Windows Media Player; Mac users should install Flip4Mac.

Hamas, Hamas, Hamas the apple of my eye – Hamas
They destroyed the Merkava [tank]
the apple of my eye – Hamas
Repeated eight times

A bombing every minute
Soldiers are afraid
A bombing every minute
Soldiers are afraid
In black bags
Chunks of flesh of Jews
repeated five times

In retaliation for Yassin we want Sharon’s head
We want Sharon’s head
we want Sharon’s head!

Hamas, Hamas, Hamas the apple of my eye – Hamas
They destroyed the Merkava [tank]
the apple of my eye – Hamas
the apple of my eye – Hamas
the apple of my eye – Hamas

“Produced by AL-Aqsa TV, 2007”
Dedicated to the Arab and Palestinian community in Sweden

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1 SonOfLiberty  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:36:10am

But, but... OJ WAS ARRESTED!

2 insanity police  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:36:34am

Sick terrorist scum

3 astronmr20  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:36:43am

Let's give them a..

nevermind

4 phoenixgirl  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:37:11am

this is evil

5 Sizzlack  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:37:28am

HAM ASS is oh so creative.

I dont think Israeli soldiers are afraid of some cavemen with rocks and homemade rockets...but thats just my opinion.

6 insanity police  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:37:31am

re: #3 astronmr20

kick in the arse

7 DistantThunder  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:37:35am

Sharpton claiming to be getting rid of roaches in Jena.

8 wargammer2005  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:37:36am

is there one person running for POTUS that will cut off all funds to these animals?

9 storagemanager  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:38:18am
filled with clips of masked terrorists and suicide bombings

The brave men of Hamas...who hide behind children...cover their faces and wage war...aginst women and children...spit

10 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:38:25am

[DELETED]

/these [DELETED] don't deserve my words

11 The Other Les  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:38:31am

This is a test of the violence suggestion system.

12 insanity police  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:39:08am

Hamas is pure evil.

Related O/T:
Daniel Pipes Lecture“The Threat To Israel’s Existence: Why it’s Back, What it Means”
Monday, October 8, 2007, 1:00 PM
Wayne State University

*I hope a bunch of Lizards will attend

13 experiencedtraveller  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:39:34am

From a marketing perspective their core message has not changed.

14 Sizzlack  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:39:37am

Only the Palestinians could take pride in saying "A bombing every minute"

and the left thinks they want peace?

15 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:39:45am

re: #8 wargammer2005

I think our best bet is Rudy, but even that's doubtful.

16 SonOfLiberty  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:40:47am

I love that dedication tagline. Real subtle.

Sorry, Sweden, you're at war with Islam. Good luck.

17 Lee  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:41:10am
the apple of beam in my eye – Hamas

Fixed that.

18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:41:51am

3 words on what the Israeli response should be:

Sustained Artillery Barrage

19 Sir Napsalot  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:42:37am

Not just Jimmah's friends.

People make friends for lots of reasons. Jimmah champions these murderers/terrorists as the real victims, the down-trodden.

Huge difference.

20 samsgran1948  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:42:56am

Do you think MTV will air it?

21 Eowyn2  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:44:33am

sick bastages

22 trailortrash  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:45:08am

sick fucks

23 Alouette  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:45:16am

Clear your brain out with this

Nidfok otcha inshallah

24 29Victor  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:45:23am

Fargin iceholes.

25 jamgarr  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:46:03am

But, . . . but, . . . but, they were elected.

26 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:46:31am

Hey - even the '62 Mets had their "fight song", didn't help much though.
Look at it this way, when the electricity is turned off in Gaza we will find out how good these guys are at "a capella."

-S-

27 cosmo  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:46:43am

re: #1 SonOfLiberty

But, but... OJ WAS ARRESTED!

Everybody look over here! Zac Efron is gay! Look over here! Britney in custody battle with K-Fed!

28 29Victor  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:47:00am

One world.

There's no real difference between them an us.

It's Bush's fault.


/29Victor tasers self

29 American Soldier  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:47:44am

It was a film such as this that led to my "necklace of oznayim" statement which Charles deleted.
So, to save the Lizard King some time, [deleted].
Hamas, you know where to find me. Come try for your bag of Jewish basar.

31 cosmo  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:51:26am

re: #23 Alouette

Clear your brain out with this

Nidfok otcha inshallah

"...we'll send you back to allah with all the hezbollah..."

Classic.

Note that Israel defends and its foes offend. There's a difference, Mr. Carter.

32 Maine's Michael  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:53:33am

The graceless and unprincipled 'Condi' speaks, just yesterday:

"What I have heard from everyone, and it's not just the Saudis... is 'Make this conference serious and substantive.' ...What are we trying to do here? We're trying to support the forces in the Middle East, and in this case most especially the Palestinians and the Israelis... who believe in a two-state solution.

"We can't simply continue to say we want a two-state solution. We've got to start to move toward one, and this international meeting is also going to be doing exactly that... [not] just to declare that we all want to see a two-state solution."

She went on to say

"Did you know I once had an oil tanker named after me?"

33 Thanos  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:55:33am

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34 Maine's Michael  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:55:41am

'We in America understand the benevolence that lies at the heart of Islam.'

'There can be no greater achievement than for the US to assist in the birth of a Palestinin State.'

'The good cause of the Palestinian people'

Rice, Rice, and Bush, respectively.

35 AuntAcid  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:55:55am

just the Islamopithecines at play

36 kentuckyjoe  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:57:17am

"Dedicated to the Arab and Muslim community in Sweden"--but the same people who are threatening Lars Viks for a cartoon, and the same cretins who murdered Van Gogh's grandson. Animals.

37 David Simon  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:57:45am

I can't remember the name of a Texas woman who was executed for a brutal murder. She confessed that when she was stabbing her victim repeatedly, she had an orgasm.

If you read the words of the Hamasshole savages, it isn't hard to imagine them blowing their load when they see those images. They salivate at the thought of butchering their victims in the most gruesome manner possible.

It's what the intellectual slobs of the Left refuse to see: it's not about the "struggle" to "liberate" "Palestine"; it's about satisfying ghoulish blood lust.

38 too near Dearborn  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:58:54am

Just another media piece to stir the restive natives in Gaza. I'm actually optimistic that in 10 years they'll grow tired of their own culture of death. If not, they'll only stoop lower and become cannibals.

39 WriterMom  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:58:57am

I will not let this shock me.

I will not let this-or any other IslamoJihadiNazi intimidate me.

I will continue to live-make Jewish children and live Jewish.

NO JIHADI PROPAGANDA, no matter how grewsome, will ever ruin my life, my day or my children.

Everyone do something nice for someone you love, or a random act of kindness for a stranger. Keep fighting. We will endure and thrive.

40 Maine's Michael  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:00:32am

I don;t blame Hamas and the palestinians at this point, any more than I blame a schizophrenic or manic sufferer.

They have been brainwashed and inculcated to the point that their values and thought process are no longer normal.

I am pretty sure that if one were to do some sort of functional brain imaging, their responses to violence and depradation would be entirely different to those of westerners.

I believe even the German population of WW2 was not inculcated to the same degree, the Nazis going to great lenghts to hide theri atrocities from the population at large, and not splashing images about in their media.

The 'Palestinians' at this point are irretrievably lost. Weaposnized. Human pit-bulls.

41 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:01:53am

re: #7 DistantThunder

Sharpton claiming to be getting rid of roaches in Jena.

Stomping them with his Bruno Maglis?

42 Maine's Michael  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:02:38am

That the Israeli and American Admins should coddle these monsters is just unbelievable, and speaks to the power of the arab oil weapon and its system of punishment and reward.

So much easier for the world to stomach, of course, when it is aimed at Jews.

43 WriterMom  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:05:00am

re: #40 Maine's Michael

I agree with you completely. I believe that Palestinian/death cult Islamic society is unreedeemable.

44 LC LaWedgie  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:05:47am

If anyone would like to send a note of thanks, or link, or maybe an example of Palestinian poetry, to the Carter Foundation you can do it through the carterweb email address at Emory University.

45 Alouette  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:05:54am
46 nev.  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:06:23am

Never forget that Hamas is not separate from "Palestinians" in general - it is comprised of "Palestinians" and supported by "Palestinians".

47 Maine's Michael  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:07:08am

Walt and Meersheimer don;t know WTF they're talking about. This is the USA's real Israel policy:

'We need you to bleed AND to be seen to bleed. We will help you survive, but we will shrink you down, over time and in return for arab acquiescence to our goals elsewhere in the mid east, to the smallest size sustainable by military technology and diplomatic fantasy. When those technologies improve, we will shrink you down further. If you don't agree, you can make your own military spare parts for American equipment, and use your own veto to negate binding resolutions at the Security Council."

48 Maine's Michael  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:10:14am

re: #43 WriterMom

IN a perfect world, then, there would only be one just solution.

Transfer/deport them all, into the arab world that created them and weaponized them.

Either that, or a just war that settles the issue once and for all.

49 nev.  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:11:38am

re: #48 Maine's Michael

re: #43 WriterMom

IN a perfect world, then, there would only be one just solution.

Transfer/deport them all, into the arab world that created them and weaponized them.

Either that, or a just war that settles the issue once and for all.

Israel can't settle it once and for all through war because she is too small and too civilised.

50 GreenDroll  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:12:45am

It's got a good beat and you can dance to it, but if you sing along you may face eternal damnation...

51 undhimmicratic  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:15:47am

Just in time for Yom Kippur.

As a Christian in Jerusalem, I am moved as I watch the life-loving Jewish people around my neighborhood preparing for a day of soul-searching and spiritual growth. At the end of it all, they will celebrate with family and friends, with singing and laughter.

Meanwhile the terrorists who envision unspeakable atrocities and gloat over their own blood lust and death wishes are, in some parts of the city, just 5 or 10 minutes away.

May the Guardian of Israel continue to watch over His people.

52 Maine's Michael  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:18:37am

re: #51 undhimmicratic

Beautiful sentiments. Made my morning.

53 David Simon  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:23:01am

re: #51 undhimmicratic

Just in time for Yom Kippur.

As a Christian in Jerusalem, I am moved as I watch the life-loving Jewish people around my neighborhood preparing for a day of soul-searching and spiritual growth. At the end of it all, they will celebrate with family and friends, with singing and laughter.

Meanwhile the terrorists who envision unspeakable atrocities and gloat over their own blood lust and death wishes are, in some parts of the city, just 5 or 10 minutes away.

May the Guardian of Israel continue to watch over His people.

Thanks for that terrific post.

55 J.S.  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:24:05am

Yes, irredeemable. Even calling this society/culture "toxic" sounds like an understatement. I believe the Islamists, Hamas, Hezbollah, and all the many, many other terrorist organizations/with their world-wide sympathizers, admirers and followers are mental deviants -- psychopathic deviants...definitely something wrong with these folk on an emotional/moral/social level...and, unfortunately, just as with criminal psychopaths, there is no "cure."

56 ChristianRepublic  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:36:12am

re: #32 Maine's Michael

The graceless and unprincipled 'Condi' speaks, just yesterday:


"We can't simply continue to say we want a two-state solution. We've got to start to move toward one, and this international meeting is also going to be doing exactly that... [not] just to declare that we all want to see a two-state solution."

Maybe her "two state solution" is something like this: The "Palestinians" of Gaza and the West Bank are herded into Egypt and Jordan. Voila! Two-state solution. Ya think that's what she means?

57 American Soldier  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:39:26am

re: #51 undhimmicratic

Thank you for the sentiment.
May G-d also watch out for my son and all his comrades on the line protecting the Peace of Jerusalem.

58 kemaste  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:40:59am

Ode to Martyrdom

Martyrdom, O martyrdom, The sound of churning skies and faint whistling of my name in the world to come.  A flash and my eyes turn heavenward. I taste smoke and eternity sears my lips. No more the bloom of youth do I send.  No more to crush tender expectation into wine of sacrifice. In trepidation and foul stench I am dispatched. Flames and gloves of scarlet my stinging burial shroud. 

All the pieces that I am, separating what is, from what was in one expansive gesture. No glory and untouched houris to penetrate? No cup of wine or boys with eyes like pearls to quench my thirst? Where is the honor for my bitter acrimony and attempts to obliterate, G-d's remnant?

So I, to heaven question: Who was my god, then? What is The Name, the One who fashions my torment? I heave ash and disappointment. My eyes weep from their sockets. O to grasp a fist of my holy land, to occupy it now and not this grave. 

 
 

59 ChristianRepublic  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:41:33am

re: #37 David Simon


It's what the intellectual slobs of the Left refuse to see: it's not about the "struggle" to "liberate" "Palestine"; it's about satisfying ghoulish blood lust.

Human sacrifice is as essential to radical (close to the root) Muslims as it was to the Mayans, only less ceremoniously and without the Mayan panache.

60 ChristianRepublic  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:44:14am

re: #40 Maine's Michael

So if a family on your block is comprised of junkie parents who raised junkie kids who rob and steal to support their habits, they shouldn't be reviled or punished?!

61 Maine's Michael  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:47:43am

re: #59 ChristianRepublic

Human sacrifice is as essential to radical (close to the root) Muslims as it was to the Mayans, only less ceremoniously and without the Mayan panache.

They are debased humans.

62 EmeraldLakeEyes  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:49:55am

re: #34 Maine's Michael

'We in America understand the benevolence that lies at the heart of Islam.'

This just makes me sick. I Hate that quote

63 Maine's Michael  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:50:15am

re: #60 ChristianRepublic

re: #40 Maine's Michael

So if a family on your block is comprised of junkie parents who raised junkie kids who rob and steal to support their habits, they shouldn't be reviled or punished?!

Oh no. They should defintiely be removed from any situation where they can cause damage to innocents, even if those methods are necessarily violent.

The pont I was making is that I am beyond blaming them, at this point, becasue they are a known, irredeemably evil enity.

I am on to blaming their facilitators and apologists at this point.

Like the American Admin and its vassal Israeli Admin.

64 ChristianRepublic  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:51:02am

re: #61 Maine's Michael


But your earlier implication that they are diseased would mean that they are not responsible for their actions and should be pitied and protected. Only Nazi-types devalue and punish the diseased. Perhaps you would clarify.

65 undhimmicratic  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:52:11am

#57

Amen.

Many blessings on you, your son and all who stand guard--with nearly miraculous success--against this rising tide of diabolical filth.

I wish I really believed that the pen is mightier than the sword!

66 RickZ  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:53:58am

After that dreck "[p]roduced by AL-Aqsa TV, 2007," time to repost my rebuttal, written in 2003:


. . . for Yasser and Abu and Hamas, too.


Israel uses soldiers to counter-attack,
Civilians who would try to break her back,
While we dither and slither away from this fact:
Terrorists kill – without looking back.

The answer, it seems, is not to be found,
Amongst the ruins of people, strewn on the ground.
Reasons for murder, supercilious, abound,
But will not stop while Insanity’s around.

Though it takes two to tango, only one’ll do,
When it comes to killing any ol’ Jew.
Civilization has Rule of Law as its glue –
Except for Yasser and Abu and Hamas, too.

Terror, like silence, adores a vacuum,
Yet for logic and truth, it has no room.
The future, bleakly on the landscape, will loom:
We do nothing at peril of our own doom.

67 Maine's Michael  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 10:01:14am

re: #64 ChristianRepublic

The 'diseased' have to be removed from any situation where they can casue damage to healthy.

Medicall, one would quarantine or restrain an otherwise uncontrollable and dangerous psychopath. This is done all the time with the criminally insane.

One does not give them a state.

My suggestion would be to transfer them back to the the people that created and weaponized them, and let them cure or otherwise dilute or deal with them in the manner they see fit. While in theory that would include the Soviet union as well as the arab world, the soviet union no longer exists. Egypt, Syria and Saudi Arabia still do.

68 ChristianRepublic  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 10:03:29am

re: #63 Maine's Michael


Oh no. They should defintiely be removed from any situation where they can cause damage to innocents, even if those methods are necessarily violent. The pont I was making is that I am beyond blaming them, at this point, becasue they are a known, irredeemably evil enity.
I am on to blaming their facilitators and apologists at this point.
Like the American Admin and its vassal Israeli Admin.

They are completely responsible for their actions, their culture, their crimes, their religioin, etc etc. Who were their facilitators and apologists a hundred years ago? Ten centuries ago? I am not trying to bust you, it's just that they are what they are, and their only hope for improvement is to switch religions - a capital offense!

Any view that sees them as victims, let alone mentally ill, is "codependent," if you will.

69 ChristianRepublic  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 10:05:13am

Somehow I messed that up. Let's try again:
re: #68 ChristianRepublic

re: #63 Maine's Michael

Oh no. They should defintiely be removed from any situation where they can cause damage to innocents, even if those methods are necessarily violent. The pont I was making is that I am beyond blaming them, at this point, becasue they are a known, irredeemably evil enity.
I am on to blaming their facilitators and apologists at this point.
Like the American Admin and its vassal Israeli Admin.

They are completely responsible for their actions, their culture, their crimes, their religioin, etc etc. Who were their facilitators and apologists a hundred years ago? Ten centuries ago? I am not trying to bust you, it's just that they are what they are, and their only hope for improvement is to switch religions - a capital offense!

Any view that sees them as victims, let alone mentally ill, is "codependent," if you will.

70 kafir  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 10:08:19am

Those jooos, denying the 'palis' exercise of their inalienable right to whack jooos. Must condemn the jooos in the UN GA, UN HRC, HRW.

They obviously have earned a state. Time to force them to generate their own power, water, and everything else a state needs to do. Cut them off. Today. No more. Screw the "innocent victims" in Gaza. No one bothers to think of the innocent jewish victims of inbound missles from Gazastan.

You don't like collective punishment? Don't vote for f*cking terrorists. You elected them Gaza, you deal with them.

It may be a war crime to perform population transfer, but this is the only mechanism that looks like it has any hope of creating peace. Absorb the transfered populations into their host countries.

'Palis' polity is not ready. They had 60+ years. The 'palis' experiment has failed miserably. It is time to take away their suffering by finally, permanently resettling them in arab lands.

71 Maine's Michael  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 10:12:31am

re: #69 ChristianRepublic

I simply see them as irredeemable. They are not reformable. They have a mental illness they will take to their graves.

Their leadership is responsible for letting things get to this point.

72 J.S.  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 10:14:08am

Psychotics -- those suffering from a true debilitating, mental illness are delusional...with full-blown hallucinations (hearing voices, seeing things, speaking to people who are not present, and so on). (If anyone has ever witnessed a psychotic -- when delusional -- well, you'll realize that the psychotic person is not "with it" -- that is they are in another world -- completely "out of it." Thus, nearly every civilized nation in the world does not and cannot hold true psychotics (the delusional paranoid schizophrenic, for example) responsible for one's actions. Psychotics who "act out" in a criminal fashion are thus put into mental hospitals.

A psychopath, on the other hand, does NOT suffer from delusions. They are perfectly rational and functioning. It's a "personality disorder" -- not a psychotic illness. So a psychopath fells nothing for his victims, has no conscience, can easily commit the most heinous acts and be unconcerned. (There are other manifestations of psychopathy -- 22 "traits" -- and it's on a scale, thus there are degrees of psychopathy.) Criminal psychopaths are routinely put into prisons (there's no treatment, and no "cure")...but they cannot escape punishment on the grounds of "insanity." They typically are fully aware that there acts are "evil" -- it's just that they don't care.

One could also suggest that the current violent, terroristic Islamism is akin to a "disease" in that it seems to be spreading -- it's the noxious ideas that act almost like a contagion.

73 MadJadBad  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 10:14:40am

Wow. That makes gansta rap seem pretty benign.

74 TOWM  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 10:16:59am

These guys are as talented musically as they are in children's programming
/sarc

Lets just hope this hits the top 10: WITH A BULLET

75 Maine's Michael  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 10:37:52am

re: #72 J.S.

I'm not a psychiatrist, but I would bet the 'palestinians' would make for an interesting real world experiment testing the hypothesis that culture/upbringing creates psychopathic personality disorder. Perhaps this is 'known' already, though.


Relatedly, would you have considered the Nazis psychopaths?

It would seem to me that Nazi Germany was qualitatively different from the palestinians. German society was not innately psychopathic, but Nazi Germany exploited its fraction of psychopaths to carry out is plans, and everyone else more or less closed an eye or went along.

Palestinian society has its bloodlust bred in the bone, at this point, and it is endemic throughtall levels, all strata, all ages of its 'society'.

Truly sick.

76 boocat  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 10:39:56am

Thank you, Dhimmi Carter. Encourage them some more, please.

77 Maine's Michael  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 10:40:41am

Correction:

testing the hypothesis that culture/upbringing can create psychopathic personality disorder.

78 WriterMom  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 10:41:00am

re: #51 undhimmicratic

Lovely. Thank you. I'm glad you're on our team.

79 WriterMom  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 10:43:38am

By equating the current death cult fad with a disease, it takes away the human factor that developed, encourages and disseminates the culture. There are certain delusional elements that have been fed to the Palestinians so many times that they actually believe the whoppers, but this cannot be succesful without human beings supporting the whole infrastructure.

80 Maine's Michael  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 10:46:09am

re: #79 WriterMom

As long as all agree that the solution is transfer or, failing that, nuke from orbit, I am ok with any explanation.

/just kidding about the nuke from orbit.

81 WriterMom  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 10:47:02am

re: #75 Maine's Michael


German society was not innately psychopathic, but Nazi Germany exploited its fraction of psychopaths to carry out is plans, and everyone else more or less closed an eye or went along.

MM-but there were certain factors that were quite unique to Germany-for example the underlying culture of antisemitism in the society, the German particular adulation for order, following orders and the aspirations of most German workers to be professional bureaucrats and functionaries. That was their ideal lifestyle.

However, nobody ever expected at the end of WWII that the Germans would ever be democratic-the same can be said of Imperial Japan. However, what is different now is that America is not taking the moral and transparent stand against the scourge of Islamic terror and caliphate dreams. Without that-without the will-we will be sunk.

82 WriterMom  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 10:48:24am

re: #80 Maine's Michael

{MM}

83 Pope Insouciance IV  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 10:51:11am

I question the tempo.

84 Maine's Michael  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 10:52:10am

re: #81 WriterMom

The Germans and Japanese were utterly defeated. Ground into the dirt, civilians included, because it was understood that it is ultimately the civilian population had to be convinced and reformed of its delusions, and only by threatening the families of the fighting men could they get total surrender.

Islam by its nature is far more intrisic to the psychological makeup of its adherents that were either Nazism and even military Shintoism, I think.

And yet we pussyfoot around muslims. With this strategy, perhaps we can contain, but we cannot win.

Furthermore, the Saudis won't allow it.

85 undhimmicratic  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 11:01:44am

Just keep writing, WriterMom!

86 Cygnus  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 11:07:17am

re: #6 insanity police

re: #3 astronmr20

kick in the arse

Dang, you beat me to it! I'll second the motion.

87 madisonsfriend  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 11:07:43am

But, but Hamas is the elected gov't- why aren't we supporting them? I am sure they would love us and be really nice if we gave them lots more money and let them kill everyone in Israel. Oh, and of course, if we all converted to Islam or killed ourselves if we wouldn't convert. So what's the problem- must be us, not them.

88 Cygnus  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 11:09:26am

re: #51 undhimmicratic

Amen, brother (or sister).

89 J.S.  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 11:16:50am

re: #75 Maine's Michael

There are rigorous debates in the psychiatric community (I'm not a psychiatrist either), about the role of genetics vs socialization -- and how various factors interplay. (There was a book recently published in 2005 called "The Handbook of Psychopathy" which put together some of the latest research findings from a range of experts in the field.) Just about every aspect of psychopathy is subject to debate (including the definitions, the models, the causations, the diagnosis, the etiology, the prognosis, etc.)

I suspect that the two (nazis vs Islamists) are qualitatively different. Particularly, given the fact that the Islamists are religiously based. The nazis prided themselves on being "scientists" (today we'd call it pseudo science), and on being cold and calculating. It's a different kind of diabolicalness. (?) (I believe the prime exemplar of the German nazi psychopath was, pretty clearly, Mengele).

It's as if there are different sub-species of psychopathy. And the nazi and Islamist versions differ...yet simultaneously also share certain features. (I was reading recently about the need to conduct further research into antisemitism...) (Also, btw, the current climate at most universities, I don't think it would be possible to even broach the topic of say, Palestinians and psychopathy...let alone suggest research. (it's politically unthinkable.) (Another promising area, by the way, is brain research -- neurotransmitters, etc.)

90 Sabraguy  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 11:18:26am

Let them rot behind their wall, sinking lower and lower into savagery until they lose all contact with their human origins, and run about on all fours slavering at the mouth, having lost the power of speech, and scavenging in their own dung to keep alive. It shouldn't take long at the rate they are going.

91 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 11:19:13am
92 Cygnus  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 11:19:29am

re: #23 Alouette

Clear your brain out with this

Nidfok otcha inshallah

Go IDF! G-d bless Israel!

93 WriterMom  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 11:24:41am

re: #84 Maine's Michael

We agree. Unless Islam (not just stupid fucking Osama I Bin Dead Laden)-all of Islam and its adherants get their very own Emperor Hirohito moment, we are doomed to diddle the Saudi Princes, and watch people cry crocodile tears for dead Jews and other assorted kafirs forever.

94 WriterMom  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 11:25:09am

re: #85 undhimmicratic

Thanks, I shall!

95 WriterMom  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 11:27:53am

re: #91 buzzsawmonkey


But Arab society has had the opportunity to do what the German Nazis did not; raise up three generations from birth in an ideology of supremacy, hatred and murder.

Good point, buzz. And-of course, I would add that the historical period during which the death-cult Islamic pathology against Jews has flustered is also an important point. The world gave the Jews a very brief breather after the Shoah-and now, though the earth under European feet is soaked with the blood of our ancestors, and the ghosts greet us at every European city, the world can heave a sigh of relief-content that the Jews have their new status as the "real" Nazis, and devote all their energy to the spiritual descendants of the Nazis without even batting an eyelash.

96 Sunlight  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 11:30:38am

That's all they can come up with? Their contribution to the world is that they can chew up humans and their technological triumph is finally finally figuring out a weak spot on the Merkava. No contribution to eliminating a disease or coming up with alternate energy or water cleaning approaches... nothing ...just death, mutilation and attempted destruction of the technological progress of others. Pathetic.

97 toomanysnax  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 11:32:59am

"I give it a "9," Dick (Clark). It has a good beat and you can dance to it." Frankie Avalon

98 looking closely  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 11:36:24am

Yawn.
They're trying to rile you up and its worked.
Such lovely people, LGTAS, etc.

Unfortunately for them, the Gazans are now stuck with HAMAS for the foreseeable future.

Its that old saw about one free election, one time.

99 wiles  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 11:38:57am

When will Israel once and for all just put an end to this? Do you realize how pacified (and not a little bloodied at the same time) the ME and much of the rest of the world would be as a result? When is enough enough?

100 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 11:42:04am

This is all they've got?

Pathetic cowards.

They will fail in the end.

101 kentuckyjoe  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:07:09pm

I don't know about anyone else, but I can't get this to play. Even going to Memri's site.

102 Joel  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:37:46pm

Is that the Haaretz editorial staff singing in Hebrew?

103 Maine's Michael  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:00:26pm

re: #89 J.S.

(Another promising area, by the way, is brain research -- neurotransmitters, etc.)

Yes. As I posted above, I think there is an excelelnt chance that fucntional brain imaging would show differences in responses/cognition patterns between palestinian and western brains.

The palestinians harbor the most extreme version of IBP.

(IBP = Islamic brain pathology. It's not yet in the DSM, and has no CPT code yet, but give it a hundred years)

104 WriterMom  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:09:29pm

re: #102 Joel

OY.

:P

105 WriterMom  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:10:50pm

re: #103 Maine's Michael

There is no doubt in my mind that you would find pleasure centres in the brain lighting up if the Palestians were being monitored by PET or CT while watching these images. For most normal humans I believe the areas indicating horror or truama would be visible.

106 Maine's Michael  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:11:51pm

re: #102 Joel

That's actually quite funny.

And, yes it is. Don;t you recognize Rubinstein's voice?

Peres came in for a cameo in the chorus.

107 Maine's Michael  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:13:27pm

WM,

if the Palestians were being monitored by PET or CT while watching these images.

Your Canadian underwear is showing! Down here in the big show, we use functional brain MRI along with PET, not CT ;)

108 J.S.  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:36:53pm

re: #103 Maine's Michael

I read an interesting article about psychopaths and certain brain anomalies. The researchers found that psychopaths (these were criminal psychopaths) had dysfunctions of the paralimbic system...Here's also a Wiki article on the Insular Cortex (note in the article that Insular Cortex plays a role in addictions, also higher functions, such as an ability to feel empathy.)

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

109 Joel  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:41:28pm

re: #106 Maine's Michael

I thought I could recognize Gideon Levy's voice as well in the background.

110 WriterMom  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:43:51pm

re: #107 Maine's Michael

You can see my underware through this screen? GAAA!

111 J.S.  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:53:57pm

The article was "Brain Potentials Implicate Temporal Lobe Abnormalities in Criminal Psychopaths" from the Journal of Abnormal Psychology; Aug2006, Vol. 115 Issue 3, p443-453.

"Abstract:Psychopathy is associated with abnormalities in attention and orienting. However, few studies have examined the neural systems underlying these processes. To address this issue, the authors recorded event-related potentials (ERPs) while 80 incarcerated men, ...[snip] The data are interpreted as supporting the hypothesis that psychopathy may be related to dysfunction of the paralimbic system—a system that includes parts of the temporal and frontal lobes."

Note the Wiki article on the Insular Cortex, also references William James (who also wrote on the nature of religious experience -- taxonomies of emotions related to religious experience / insight -- "embodied cognition" -- conversely, psychopaths are reported to have impaired emotions or emotional impairment..Also see "Abraham Heschel interprets William James," by Edward K. Kaplan).

112 Josephine  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:00:31pm

re: #16 SonOfLiberty

I love that dedication tagline. Real subtle.

Sorry, Sweden, you're at war with Islam. Good luck.

Well said.

113 Josephine  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:04:13pm

re: #39 WriterMom

This should be on a poster.

114 Josephine  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:17:07pm

The word "savages" says it all.

The discussion of Palestinian psychopathology is interesting; thanks to everyone for sharing those points.

115 Maine's Michael  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 6:08:40pm

It is now clear that certain occupations shape neural pathways in the brain. The brain rewires itself, hypertrophying pathways that are most commonly used, and these changes are now mapable in some cases with functional brain imaging.

Perhaps someone at Hebrew University can apply for a United Nations / World Health Organization grant to study the neural pathway deformities engendered by Islamism, particularly 'palestinian' Islamism.

I'm sure it would have an excellent chance of getting funded. Certainly a better chance than the earth has of getting struck by solid gold asteroid on New Year's Day.


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