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Suspicious Activity at California Fire Stations

Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 12:24:08 pm PDT

A series of suspicious incidents at California fire stations: Video, photos taken at fire stations spark concerns.

During the last week of July, fire officials in the Bay Area city of Campbell reported that two men had been seen videotaping routine activities at a fire station.

The men were reportedly in their 20s or early 30s, and one was using a sophisticated news media-style camera. When firefighters attempted to talk with the men, they reportedly jumped into a waiting car and sped off.

The incident prompted the Sacramento Regional Terrorism Threat Assessment Center to send out a request for Northern California fire stations to watch for similar incidents, and report them immediately.

The day the request went out, Sept. 6, a second, similar incident was reported at a fire station in Yuba City. According to officials, a fire captain encountered two men parked outside the city’s main fire station. One of the men got out and allegedly began taking pictures of the fire station’s administration building. When the captain approached the men, to tell them they were in a no-parking zone, the photographer jumped in the vehicle and the men left.

The man who took the photos was described as being between 30 and 40 years of age.

On Sept. 12, Fresno Fire Department officials spotted two men in a vehicle allegedly observing activities at a fire training center. When questioned, the driver reportedly said they were just checking things out, then left immediately.

Two days later, on Sept. 14, personnel from the Sacramento Metro Fire Department noticed two men taking photos of a fire station. A third man sat in the back of a car, and appeared to be drawing or taking notes. When fire officials walked toward them, the two taking pictures jumped in the vehicle and sped away.

The men allegedly took pictures in front of the station, and in the rear. They ranged in age from late teens to about 60, officials recalled.

Tim Johnstone, a commander with the threat assessment center in Sacramento, said all of the incidents are being investigated, but there is no indication they might be related. “We aren’t considering this a specific threat at this time; we’re just asking our public safety partners to be on the watch for suspicious activity,” he said.

(Hat tip: zombie.)

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1 insanity police  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:24:58pm

Book em Danno

2 insanity police  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:26:17pm

CAIR accuses fire stations of racism against Muslim and Fire.

3 Ziggy  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:26:46pm

Isolated incidents. Nothing to be concerned about. Put your heads back in the sand now.

4 MarkX  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:28:18pm

Amish?

5 Peacekeeper  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:28:21pm

The ACLU should sue Al Queada to release all their surveillance tapes...

6 Old Tanker  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:28:22pm

Nope, not related, nothing to see here,

7 southernborn  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:28:24pm

school buses...now fire trucks. good bomb carrier

8 allah this  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:28:40pm

Where there's smoke...

9 commander_vimes  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:28:56pm

nobody followed them? Nobody got a license plate? If they didn't, they will...

10 MarkX  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:29:31pm

Did they look like doctor types in Jeeps?

11 Arne97  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:29:34pm

Damn Buddhists ! Always causin' trouble !

12 kansas  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:29:37pm

Move on folks.....nothing to see here. When we completely white wash the whole thing we'll let you know.

13 Peacekeeper  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:29:45pm

WHat ever became of that story about the massive fire outbreak in Greece?

14 xtraBilly  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:30:13pm

They could be taking pictures for the 2008 Fireman's Calendar.

15 BLBfootballs  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:30:43pm

Is there any physical description of these "men" aside from their overall manliness?

16 insanity police  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:31:59pm

re: #11 Arne97

Damn Buddhists ! Always causin' trouble !

They're not Amish, because the firemen would have caught up to their horse and buggy.

17 allah this  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:32:30pm
Tim Johnstone, a commander with the threat assessment indifference center in Sacramento, said all of the incidents are being investigated, but there is no indication they might be related.

Fixed.

18 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:33:04pm

OK, we have ages ranges and what not, but how about physical or (gasp!) ethnic descriptions?

Perhaps they were representatives of the pyromaniac community and are preparing a lawsuit against Big Fire.

19 syncrodude  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:33:07pm

Ya know, If you got a good enough look at the men doing the photography, shouldn't you be able to give a better description than just their age? I am sure these firefighters did, but why wasn't it reported. Where they of "Northern African decent", ALA french yooots?
syd

20 inkling  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:33:23pm

"Nothing to see here, lookie-loos. Move along!"

(/Officer Barbrady)

21 ronaldusmagnus  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:33:39pm

Nothing to worry about - probably just some harmless British doctors.

22 varmint  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:33:46pm

did they ever locate the guys from the ferry?


maybe the islamofascist terrorists will light up a forest and sttart a fight with the eco nut terrorists.

23 feedupdem  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:33:55pm

Firehouse spotting. A well known hobby in the States. Nothing to be concerned about. Just a bunch of harmless anoraks. Go back to sleep.

24 Da Coyote  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:33:55pm

It's the Jooooooooos! I've got notes and photos.

Dan Rather

25 eclectic infidel  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:34:36pm

What's missing from these reports are the physical descriptions of the suspects. Black, white, middle eastern, what? Damn political correctness.

26 xtraBilly  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:34:46pm

re: #24 Da Coyote

It's all our fault!

Ron Paul

27 jcm  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:35:28pm

Wonder if they look like these guys.

28 opnion  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:35:51pm

Just peaceful Muslims having fire house learnings to benefit glorious country of........Oh never mind!

29 Carol Herman  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:37:42pm

Good for the Net! Good for ya, too, Charles.

Just like the two turkeys who rode the ferry; and the PI wouldn't print the story.

Story gets OUT!

I'd be surprised IF the Firemen haven't taken license plate numbers; since many fire departments, if they're like mine, here, are attached to the police department, as well. SO checks must have been run.

As to what was being "cased," since this wasn't a bank; was the EMPTY building, after there's a 9/11 call that requires attention.

Do they want to steal uniforms? Why not?

Perhaps, a vehicle, if it were left unattended?

Or, perhaps, these are "free-loaders on the Saud's dime." They've got great cameras, it seems, from these stories.

And, now? There's a place to collect 'em. The fish wraps were never this good!

30 syncrodude  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:37:53pm

re: #18 JammieWearingFool

OK, we have ages ranges and what not, but how about physical or (gasp!) ethnic descriptions?

Perhaps they were representatives of the pyromaniac community and are preparing a lawsuit against Big Fire.

re: #25 eclectic infidel

What's missing from these reports are the physical descriptions of the suspects. Black, white, middle eastern, what? Damn political correctness.

I'm glad I'm not the only one who saw this BIG hole in the reporting.

31 MeatRocket  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:38:23pm
all of the incidents are being investigated, but there is no indication they might be related.....

other than all perpetrators were taking pictures of Fire Response or training facilities, they all left the scene when either questioned or the attempt to question them was made.

Are we the only ones that clearly identify these scenarios as surveillance operations?

32 ronaldusmagnus  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:38:58pm

We conclude from this story that we are to be on the lookout for men ranging in age from their "late teens to about 60".

33 jcm  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:39:22pm

re: #29 Carol Herman

Fire engine could pull right up to just about any building without any body raising an eyebrow.

34 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:39:51pm

re: #14 xtraBilly

They could be taking pictures for the 2008 Fireman's Calendar.

Like this one?

Or, this one?

Or, this?

35 Rufus Lee King  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:39:52pm

If it was in the UK we'd have video of all of them already.

Can't let bIg BrOtHeR win the war, y'know.

36 jcm  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:40:28pm

re: #34 MandyManners

re: #14 xtraBilly

They could be taking pictures for the 2008 Fireman's Calendar.

Like this one?

Or, this one?

Or, this?

Mandy, Mandy, Mandy!

37 ronaldusmagnus  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:40:39pm

Taking pictures of apparatus. How to make a fake firetruck.

Taking pictures of turn-out gear. How to look like a firefighter.

38 xtraBilly  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:40:43pm

Male - Check
Ages - teens to 60's - Check
Have Car - Check
Hobby - Photography - Check

Run it through the database and get back to me.

39 Kenneth  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:41:11pm

The Islamist Trojan Horse

Have you watched the Arabic Channel, also known as TAC, which serves the New York region? Probably not, as most New Yorkers neither understand nor speak Arabic. But if you are among the estimated 1 million viewers — legal and illegal, new and old Arabic-speaking immigrants to the tri-state area — who tune in daily to Channel 507 on Time Warner Cable, this is what you can get:

%u2022 A daily dose of Islamic jurisprudence from an Egyptian sheik, Amr Khaled, who comes direct from Cairo as TAC's prime advocate of "peaceful jihad," on how the duty of every Arab-American is to become first, second, and only a member of the Muslim Ummah.

%u2022 A nightly helping of Syria's CNN-style digest of the world, sent fresh from a Damascus studio where the Iraq war is nothing but an American butchery of Arabs, and the Zionist regime in Jerusalem is just biding its time until it gets what it deserves.

40 Dianna  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:41:36pm

Campbell?

Oh, I do not like the sound of this!

41 theheat  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:41:49pm

This happened four times between September 06 and September 14, and an alert notice went out after the first incident?

So, why is all these people had to do to get away - repeatedly - was jump in their cars and drive away? Seem like someone would have called the police after, say, the second time, after the notice went out.

I guess it's more fun to wonder and speculate, and be outsmarted by people that only need to turn their key to drive away after the fourth time suspicious behavior was observed.

This stinks of stupid. I suggest they take up bird watching if this is how pro-active they are. At least they might be able to identify a species.

42 Jonas Parker  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:41:59pm

re: #34 MandyManners

re: #14 xtraBilly

They could be taking pictures for the 2008 Fireman's Calendar.

Like this one?

Or, this one?

Or, this?

Mandy, aren't there any heroic "fire-ladies"?

43 bluegrass boy  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:42:01pm

re: #34 MandyManners

re: #14 xtraBilly

They could be taking pictures for the 2008 Fireman's Calendar.

Like this one?

Or, this one?

Or, this?

i have not authorized my likeness to be used on this forum!

44 xtraBilly  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:42:10pm

re: #36 jcm

re: #34 MandyManners


re: #14 xtraBilly

They could be taking pictures for the 2008 Fireman's Calendar.

Like this one?

Or, this one?

Or, this?


Mandy, Mandy, Mandy!


Gee, Mandy. How'd you come up with those example so fast?

45 Kenneth  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:42:18pm

re: #34 MandyManners

Cold shower, Mandy!

46 Carol Herman  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:42:30pm

Wait a minute! Wait a minute!

Don't the arabs train their military minded? To jump through burning hoops? Maybe, they were looking to see if America's fire departments have hoola hoops, as part of its arsenal?

Ya know? I doubt if fire departments ever have "empty buildings." Because there's always somebody on duty, 24/7, to answer the phones.

While during the Rodney King Riots, back in what? '92? There were real fires. And, the fire trucks got shot at by the locals. And, one fire captain was not only shot; but seriously hurt.

Can't imagine that since that time the fire department isn't a lot more careful about going about their business of "answering fire alarm calls."

If you need to see "film" of activities; though, these jerks are on par with the jerks who committed crimes in London, and Glasgow. Where the toasted terrorist finally died. If you didn't know? This is an update.

Animals and savages. Not the ROP. Puleeze. Let the idiots keep banging their heads.

47 PatriotLizardoid  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:42:51pm

Makes sense that if they're planning something big, they'd want to disable the first responders. So a good question would be what population centers are equidistant to all the fire department's surveyed, if any? I'm not familiar with California.

48 jcm  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:43:02pm

re: #44 xtraBilly

They are her rotating desk top wallpaper. ;-)

49 imploder  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:43:06pm

re: #31 MeatRocket

all of the incidents are being investigated, but there is no indication they might be related.....

other than all perpetrators were taking pictures of Fire Response or training facilities, they all left the scene when either questioned or the attempt to question them was made.

Are we the only ones that clearly identify these scenarios as surveillance operations?

Classic surveillance. There is no doubt. The only question is what sort of sinister shieza are they planning. A fire house itself is a soft target.

50 bunz351  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:43:19pm

this kind of thing goes on all the time. don't pay any attention to the man behind the camera......or the curtain.

There's no place like paradise.......there's no place like paradise........

51 Carol Herman  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:43:29pm

re: #30 syncrodude

Well, there's only so many ways to spell mohammed, achmed, and ding-dong.

52 bluegrass boy  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:43:30pm

re: #44 xtraBilly

re: #36 jcm

re: #34 MandyManners


re: #14 xtraBilly


They could be taking pictures for the 2008 Fireman's Calendar.


Like this one?Or, this one?

Or, this?


Mandy, Mandy, Mandy!


Gee, Mandy. How'd you come up with those example so fast?

i bet they are on her desk top....

53 Irenike  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:43:42pm

#34 Mandy Manners,

That is some serious eye candy! Thanks for brightening this gal's lunch hour.

54 FlyingTigress  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:44:55pm

re: #7 southernborn

school buses...now fire trucks. good bomb carrier

Don't forget the reported 'unusual surveillance' of the Washington State DOT ferry system.

55 commander_vimes  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:44:56pm

re: #37 ronaldusmagnus

Taking pictures of apparatus. How to make a fake firetruck.

Taking pictures of turn-out gear. How to look like a firefighter.

How to spot when a truck is going on a call to snatch it and drive it yourself.

57 RoughRider  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:46:02pm

Authorities request the public be vigilant and report any persons of various descriptions engaged in activities.

58 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:46:17pm

This is my wallpaper.

I'm just a dirty white girl.

59 jcm  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:47:23pm

We know the bad guys have used two stage attacks. Pull a smaller attack, enough to draw a shitload of media an a bunch of police/fire/EMS, when everything is live on all the outlets, part II begins. Another fire engine arrives.............

If they guys were legit they would of talk to the firefighters, most departments are pretty open, if they were working some the guys on the spot might have filled the request for shots, if it took would take more time the Public Information Office could have scheduled a photo shoot.

60 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:47:48pm
61 RaiderDan  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:47:55pm
Taking pictures of apparatus. How to make a fake firetruck.

Taking pictures of turn-out gear. How to look like a firefighter.

Don't forget to add going to the Safeway to get 6 pints of ice cream for your shift, a double helping of chocolate chip cookie dough for your Capt, and if in San Francisco, two bottles of merlot with dinner.

Can't be a chief with a ``chief gut.''

62 MarkX  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:48:05pm

re: #34 MandyManners

re: #14 xtraBilly


They could be taking pictures for the 2008 Fireman's Calendar.

Like this one?

Or, this one?

Or, this?

I'm at work.

Why do I get the feeling I better not click?

63 GreenDroll  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:48:40pm

More likely a plan is afoot to interfere with the fire departments ability to respond.

64 MarkX  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:49:48pm

re: #38 xtraBilly

Male - Check
Ages - teens to 60's - Check
Have Car - Check
Hobby - Photography - Check

Run it through the database and get back to me.


Well.

That should narrow it down to only about 2 million in the Bay Area.

65 jcm  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:50:04pm

re: #62 MarkX

Firefighter calender shoot, Mandy's favorites, just bare chested firemen. Depending on your work place use your own judgement.

66 SpringheelJack  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:50:39pm

The two terrorist possibilities that suggest themselves are either a scheme to disable fire response, or to use fake (or hijacked) fire vehicles in an incident

Alternately, perhaps this is deliberate misdirection, and the planned scheme has nothing to do with fire depts

67 MarkX  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:51:49pm

re: #65 jcm

re: #62 MarkX

Firefighter calender shoot, Mandy's favorites, just bare chested firemen. Depending on your work place use your own judgement.

Yeah, just what my boss needs to see me looking at; firemen.

68 imploder  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:52:10pm

re: #52 bluegrass boy

re: #44 xtraBilly


re: #36 jcm

re: #34 MandyManners

re: #14 xtraBilly

They could be taking pictures for the 2008 Fireman's Calendar.

Like this one?Or, this one?

Or, this?


Mandy, Mandy, Mandy!

Gee, Mandy. How'd you come up with those example so fast?

i bet they are on her desk top....

re: #62 MarkX

re: #34 MandyManners


re: #14 xtraBilly

They could be taking pictures for the 2008 Fireman's Calendar.

Like this one?
Or, this one?

Or, this?


I'm at work.

re: #64 MarkX

re: #38 xtraBilly


Male - Check
Ages - teens to 60's - Check
Have Car - Check
Hobby - Photography - Check

Run it through the database and get back to me.


Well.

That should narrow it down to only about 2 million in the Bay Area.

A description would help. A description of the automobile would help.

USAF security forces would have bagged these dudes that were obviously surveilling the facility, broke their cameras, flexi-cuffed them and thrown them head first into the back of a blue six-pax pick-up truck.

They would have interviewed them maybe a little later, once they got them onto the base.

69 Carol Herman  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:52:56pm

re: #33 jcm

re: #29 Carol Herman

Fire engine could pull right up to just about any building without any body raising an eyebrow.

NOT IF THERE'S NO SMOKE !

And, by the way, the reason fire trucks have sirens, is to call attention to themselves.

As I said, during the Rodney King Riots, it was dangerous for the firemen. Even though the fires were REAL.

I doubt very much if there's a chance these goofballs can steal a fire truck, and get very far! Not exactly the equipment you can steal, and then just blithly park at your apartment (rental).

Stealing uniforms?

Why bother? You can "hire them out" at any store that provides costumes.

Heck, and then? "Afterwards," you co go back to collect your deposit.

The weakest link is still in the craft trades.

And, now that this story is out on the Net?

WHo do you think gets the advantage?

Imagine a stolen fire truck, maybe, with the sirens on. (Because I think it takes a passenger to be in charge of the noise.) And, then, ALL THE POLICE CARS in hot pursuit.

Something tells me the fire truck doesn't get very far.

But that's just me.

Where I think picking on police and firemen, is about as stupid as you can get.

What are they gonna do next? Show up at a bank, in full uniform, hoping to pull of a heist?

Gimme a break.

70 imploder  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:52:57pm

oops, my comment was appended to a different post, sorry.

71 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:53:15pm
72 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:53:21pm

re: #7 southernborn

fire trucks. good bomb carrier

That was the premise behind Sleeper Cell.

73 Carol Herman  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:53:58pm

re: #57 RoughRider

Authorities request the public be vigilant and report any persons of various descriptions engaged in activities.

So good, it's worth repeating.

74 Rufus Lee King  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:54:13pm

To intercept trojan horse EMS vhicles, would it be so hard to add a layer of security at every major EMS response incident? Every responder that pulls up must enter a PD perimeter checkpoint and show DHS ID for a second before entry.

Same perimeter would also serve other purposes, like traffic control, evidence protection, witness collection, etc. Seems pretty do-able to me.

75 rtheyserius  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:54:27pm

re: #13 Peacekeeper

WHat ever became of that story about the massive fire outbreak in Greece?

Great question. I just Googled around for news... but there's nothing new since the end of August. Just suspects described as "a 60 year old man" and some 'youths'.

76 Carol Herman  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:55:27pm

re: #71 buzzsawmonkey

Sects, lies, and videotape.

(In)sects, lies and video-photo-shops.

Oh, and fake black beards.

77 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:55:30pm

re: #34 MandyManners

re: #14 xtraBilly
They could be taking pictures for the 2008 Fireman's Calendar.

Like this one?
Or, this one?
Or, this?

I officially volunteer as photographer for next year's calendar. I'll do it for free. No pay needed.
;*)

78 PatriotLizardoid  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:56:15pm

Ok I was curious, so I mapped the locations I could find. They roughly form a nice 1/2 circle a 200 or so mile radius fanning out from San Francisco. All the major responders that would come to help the bay city out if the moonbats there ever got into trouble. Huh... nope, nothing going on there at. all.

Some analysis might conclude that jihadists would attack moonbats last (given that both ideologies sort of converge), but if the goal is really a "perfect day" scenario, the whole point to setting up the perfect day is to get EVEN the suicidial left so mad at you that they are willing to give the Islamic fascists the Holy war these nuts think they want.

Just a theory.

79 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:57:29pm
80 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:57:48pm

re: #77 NoSubmission

Hasn't it been canceled due to a firefighter getting raunchy on film?

81 jcm  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:58:16pm

re: #69 Carol Herman

Build inspections, non-emergency calls, training, all sorts of things. Firefighters don't spend much time in the station during the day, they are out and about. So an engine pulling up into a fire lane right at the front door of building, which in many cases block to anything but police and fire, would not raise much concern.

82 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:58:16pm

re: #48 jcm

re: #44 xtraBilly

They are her rotating desk top wallpaper. ;-)


Mine is a photograph of an exploding volcano. What could that mean...?

83 tfc3rid  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:58:22pm

re: #77 NoSubmission

I want a Ladies of LGF calendar!

84 Carol Herman  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:58:38pm

re: #34 MandyManners

Mostly, men without chest hairs are gay. Like women, they wax.

85 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:59:09pm

re: #75 rtheyserius

You mean it wasn't Bush's fault?

86 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:59:12pm

re: #80 MandyManners

re: #77 NoSubmission

Hasn't it been canceled due to a firefighter getting raunchy on film?


Yep. They pulled the plug on us lovers of firemen. Sad.

87 Georgia_Boy  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 12:59:55pm

re: #47 PatriotLizardoid

Maybe by counting the numbers of equipment at each station and determining how many distraction fires/incidents are required to divert attention from a major target? I know I have a sick mind...

88 jcm  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:00:12pm

re: #82 NoSubmission

re: #48 jcm

re: #44 xtraBilly

They are her rotating desk top wallpaper. ;-)


Mine is a photograph of an exploding volcano. What could that mean...?

Temper Temper;-) is it this one?

89 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:00:13pm

re: #82 NoSubmission

re: #48 jcm


re: #44 xtraBilly

They are her rotating desk top wallpaper. ;-)


Mine is a photograph of an exploding volcano. What could that mean...?

Positively Freudian!

90 tfc3rid  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:00:15pm

re: #86 NoSubmission

I've seen an FDNY 2008 Calendar in the Hallmark across the stret from my office...

91 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:00:31pm

re: #79 buzzsawmonkey

re: #77 NoSubmission

Have you tried Fireman's Abs Beer?

It only comes in six-packs.


LOL! Reminds me....
When is Bloombat going to give us back our firehouse?

92 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:00:47pm

re: #84 Carol Herman

re: #34 MandyManners

Mostly, men without chest hairs are gay. Like women, they wax.

Just don't walk into a NYFD house and say that.

93 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:01:32pm

re: #84 Carol Herman

re: #34 MandyManners

Mostly, men without chest hairs are gay. Like women, they wax.

Women wax their chests? No one told me.

94 Carol Herman  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:01:53pm

re: #13 Peacekeeper

Not on this thread. But if you followed the story, the socialists just lost their seats. Greece had an election. Which followed the fires. Which destroyed the socialist party. In Greece.

95 christheprofessor  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:02:00pm

re: #79 buzzsawmonkey

I've got a six-pack... It's hiding up underneatt the 12-pack... :(

96 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:02:24pm
97 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:02:24pm

re: #86 NoSubmission

:-(

98 jcm  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:02:37pm

re: #93 MandyManners

re: #84 Carol Herman

re: #34 MandyManners

Mostly, men without chest hairs are gay. Like women, they wax.

Women wax their chests? No one told me.

Never seen a thread spin out so fast.

99 christheprofessor  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:03:49pm

re: #84 Carol Herman

Really? Hmmmm, velcro...

100 rtheyserius  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:04:32pm

re: #59 jcm

...If they guys were legit they would of talk to the firefighters, most departments are pretty open...

Of course, that would be ill-advised if the photographers have Middle Eastern accents, olive skin, and introduce themselves like, "Hello, my name is Mohammed Ahmed, and this is my friend, Mohammed Umar Abdul, and we are wishing to photograph the interior of your fire station and equipment please."

101 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:04:46pm
102 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:06:01pm

re: #96 buzzsawmonkey

re: #91 NoSubmission

When is Bloombat going to give us back our firehouse?

The smart money says, after another 15,000 people pay between $650,000 and $1.3 mil to occupy shoddy new construction along Kent and Wythe.


Precisely, my most knowledgeable friend.
IF they are stupid enough, that is, to want to live in a rattly, noisy, construction zone for the next 8 years with insufficient public transit, no schools, no hospital and no firehouse..
They call it luxury............... /groan.

103 cygnus  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:06:08pm

re: #44 xtraBilly

re: #36 jcm

re: #34 MandyManners


re: #14 xtraBilly


They could be taking pictures for the 2008 Fireman's Calendar.


Like this one?Or, this one?

Or, this?


Mandy, Mandy, Mandy!


Gee, Mandy. How'd you come up with those example so fast?

She's got the site bookmarked. Top of the list.

104 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:06:46pm

re: #98 jcm

re: #93 MandyManners


re: #84 Carol Herman

re: #34 MandyManners

Mostly, men without chest hairs are gay. Like women, they wax.


Women wax their chests? No one told me.

Never seen a thread spin out so fast.

It's those big axes and hoses. The brain just can't keep straight.

105 U.S. 395  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:07:06pm

Sorry to post OT, but I just realized I posted the following at the bottom of a dead thread, and thought some of you might want to see it:

Here's one way to keep up the good reporting by the New York Daily News:

I just called up and ordered two copies of today's issue, linked by NY Nana in #428 of the Ahmadinejad Ground Zero visit thread. Total cost, including shipping= $10.00.

I know Charles' policy against phone numbers, but this is for a good cause.
Here's the direct number to order today's paper:

(212) 949-3000.

They close at 5 p.m. Eastern time, so get going.

It's a good way to put our money behind our sentiments, those who can't be there Monday to stop the desecration of Ground Zero.

Oh, it wouldn't hurt to briefly tell them you're calling from out of state to stand by New York, since you can't be there when Iran's president tries to visit Ground Zero, to keep up the good reporting, and tell them others ARE coming to New York to stand against this travesty. This may make its way up the ladder into the news - each little bit helps.

106 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:07:15pm

re: #103 cygnus

Yep. I got good bookmarks.

107 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:08:14pm

And it's not even Friday!

108 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:08:45pm

re: #10 MarkX

Would that be Dr. Toast or Dr. Crispy?

109 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:08:48pm

On topic:
Remember the Greek fires last month?

110 xtraBilly  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:09:27pm

re: #82 NoSubmission

re: #48 jcm


re: #44 xtraBilly

They are her rotating desk top wallpaper. ;-)


Mine is a photograph of an exploding volcano. What could that mean...?

You should take an aptitude test. You could be a budding geologist.

111 new2thezoo  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:09:33pm

Upon reading this story to my retired fireman husband... his assessment is that they are checking the response times and checking the equipment available for a response and maybe a way to disrupt a response to an incident. Evidently, the fire departments have been allocated money from the Homeland Security for equipment, but of course, not much has been done with it. I guess they are banking that there will be no big incident....

112 cygnus  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:09:33pm

re: #62 MarkX

re: #34 MandyManners

re: #14 xtraBilly


They could be taking pictures for the 2008 Fireman's Calendar.


Like this one?Or, this one?

Or, this?

I'm at work.

Why do I get the feeling I better not click?

They're perfectly OK. Just some really buff guys with no shirts (woo-hoo!). It's #58 I'm afraid to click on!

113 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:10:30pm
114 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:10:33pm

re: #105 U.S. 395

The NY Daily News front cover actually outdid the NYPost this time. Might be a first.

115 southernborn  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:11:33pm

OT: Joe Libberman speaking on Nochin coming to ground zero. Go Joe..you the man. sure the moonbats are upside down after hearing him.

116 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:13:17pm

re: #112 cygnus

No. 58 is a Marine.

117 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:13:26pm

Why do I get a bad feeling that they may attack the rescue squads/fire houses before attacking schools & school busses to prevent the emergency responders to get to the kids?

scary

118 Little ol Me  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:13:54pm

Not related, .. surely they don't really believe that. Nah..
Be ever vigil,

119 southernborn  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:14:00pm

re: #93 MandyManners


whoohooooo hahahahhahahahahahah im in the floor

120 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:14:50pm

re: #113 buzzsawmonkey
I'll be out of there soon. I hope. My entire building shakes from 6.30 am to 4 pm from the pounding of pylons.
Tired of the tattooed freaks, smelly hippies, half-assed yuppies, the stench of endless restaurant and bar trash baking on the sidewalks and the lot.

121 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:15:05pm

re: #119 southernborn

Just spreading smiles all around.

122 varmint  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:16:02pm

buddy of mine was out riding north of ojai last week. he stopped to take some photos of the burned are up there. cop rolled by and questioned him for five minutes.

they take this seriously.

123 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:16:03pm

re: #120 NoSubmission

I believe you've cured me of my dream to live in NYC.

124 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:16:22pm

re: #110 xtraBilly

You should take an aptitude test. You could be a budding geologist.

I AM a bit of an amateur rock collector. Does that count?

125 meMarc  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:16:30pm

Rasmussen Reports

50% Favor Government Guaranteed Health Care Coverage
Thursday, September 20, 2007

Half (50%) of American voters favor government guaranteed universal health care coverage. A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey also found that a plurality (43%) believe such a program would be better run by private companies than by the government.

The survey was conducted shortly after Senator Hillary Clinton unveiled her health care proposal to the nation. Clinton’s plan would require every American to purchase health insurance and provide financial assistance through tax breaks and other means to help keep in affordable.

Sixty-two percent (62%) of voters now say that the U.S. health care and health insurance system needs major changes. Twenty-seven percent (27%) say modest changes are needed. In evaluating Senator Clinton’s proposal, 49% of voters believe it calls for major changes and 24% say Clinton is seeking modest changes. Another 7% say she is proposing only minor while 20% are not sure.

Seventy-seven percent (77%) of liberal voters say that major changes are needed. Only 39% of liberals believe that Clinton is proposing major changes.

126 new2thezoo  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:17:40pm
#117 NJDhockeyfan 9/20/07 1:13:26 pm reply quote report

Why do I get a bad feeling that they may attack the rescue squads/fire houses before attacking schools & school busses to prevent the emergency responders to get to the kids?

scary

Connecting the dots...My thought as well. Very scary.

127 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:18:17pm

re: #123 MandyManners

re: #120 NoSubmission

I believe you've cured me of my dream to live in NYC.


It was better when people were afraid to live here. Strange but true.

128 U.S. 395  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:18:53pm

re: #114 NoSubmission


Click NoSubmission's link in #114 - this Daily News cover (today, Sept. 20) is what I bought. One for keeping and one to be laminated and put on my fridge next to my 2001 Osama Wanted poster and my red circle w/slash Saddam playing card poster.

129 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:19:11pm
130 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:19:30pm

Burn, baby burn
disco inferno


And that's all I have to say on the subject.

(5 hours of conference calls today... brain is now consistency of oatmeal)

131 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:21:05pm

re: #129 buzzsawmonkey

You're surely not considering "East Williamsburg" Bushwick?

Is that the counterpoint to "Hell's Kitchen" Clinton?

132 Carol Herman  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:22:46pm

re: #81 jcm

Small problem for your plan to work. FIRST, it's gotta work!

So, the fire truck, "pulling up" ... has spent some time in the shop, perhaps? Or does it just go through a car wash, for the bomb to be planted on top?

Think this through.

I remember reading a Peggy Noonan piece, where she practically did her business in her pants, because she saw "Mideastern types" filming St. Patrick's.

Big difference from Mo having "big plans" ... to actually getting somewhere beyond the electronic transfer of funds.

And, Ehud Barak just dropped his calling card on Assad; and the Dinner Jacket.

What did you see? Well, there's nothing in print, besides a minor complaint drawn up by syria. To the UN. Which has elected a syrian into the #2 chair; discussing nuclear disarmament.

Seems syria just got de-nuked. Or dis-armed. No matter what the diplomats at the UN have been doing.

Seems secrets work.

Seems Israel, at least, (and now including a joint effort with India), have all sorts of eye-balls in the sky.

While what do the Mohammedan's have? Huh? A few guys with cameras. And, fake black beards.

Want my opinion? This story is similar to the one where a cop sat on a toilet seat; and Larry Craig spread his legs.

Well, for Craig to say he was "solicited," which he did ... Then he has to know the meaning of "hand signals." This pertains to all sorts of surveillance, as well. It's done without anyone talking.

HONEST. The article is meaningless, because the firemen aren't sharing with you, any details.

Besides. Lots of fire departments invite in kids. To fool around. Big things planned for when the kids show up? I think that's kind'a desperate reaching.

And, I also think we stuck a big crimp in their works.

Racing fire trucks stolen in broad daylight: Horse feathers.

Let alone, what you'd have to remove from the paraphernalia, just to stick a bomb, inside.

Yes. The trucks are shiny red. And, washed very often. Doesn't give ya a clue on how to drive the thing.

If anyone remembers the silent films done by the Keystone Cops; you'd get an idea of some spectacular comedy, at first time drivers ... trying to drive these things.

While the monkeys in gazoo got fooled by an Israeli Special Op team, showing up as "grocers."

133 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:22:53pm
134 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:23:50pm

re: #129 buzzsawmonkey

re: #120 NoSubmission

You're surely not considering "East Williamsburg" Bushwick?


LOL! or how about Bed Stuy East Bushwick, or South Bronx Sobro?
No. If anything I'm leaving the city. For good.

135 Peacekeeper  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:24:30pm

re: #130 Occasional Reader

Burn, baby burn
disco inferno


And that's all I have to say on the subject.

(5 hours of conference calls today... brain is now consistency of oatmeal)


That's a step up for you...

136 Carol Herman  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:24:41pm

re: #98 jcm

Check out french women. They don't shave.

Otherwise, I doubt you've seen a pretty girl that was as fuzzy as a bear. Waxing is about the best approach. Heck, the Eygptians and Romans did it. SO, it's also very old.

137 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:25:24pm
138 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:25:35pm
139 tfc3rid  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:25:41pm

re: #134 NoSubmission

Same here... Soon enough....

140 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:27:30pm
141 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:28:22pm

re: #120 NoSubmission

re: #113 buzzsawmonkey
I'll be out of there soon. I hope. My entire building shakes from 6.30 am to 4 pm from the pounding of pylons.
Tired of the tattooed freaks, smelly hippies, half-assed yuppies,
the stench of endless restaurant and bar trash baking on the sidewalks
and the lot.


A perfect description of my day. Construction outside my work window 9-5, then I ride the train home with the Geriatric Lesbian Brigade, only to see "IMPEACH" bumperstickers on every Pius, I mean Prius, on my block driven by smug hipsters & grey-beard hippies.

At least the cheesesteaks are good.

142 Highrise  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:28:38pm

A few things to note:

*Campbell, California is right near san jose...the whole bay area pretty much is liberal. This is south of San fran by about 40 mins.

*Moffett Field Nasa Ames Research Center is in Mountainview, Ca...only 14 mi's away. If it were a huge alarm fire at that field, campbell station I'm sure would be called.

*Sacramento is 35miles north (30 min drive on freeway) from Lodi, California..where those muslims were charged with training at Pakistan (?). It also seems to have a lot of muslim activity. Sorry I'm rusty on my lodi facts on the muslim case but people can google it or search it here.

*Fresno is down south inland among farmland..I don't know what sensitive gov't stuff is around there. Maybe someone else does.

143 Steve  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:29:49pm

This worries me because I have a brother that is a fireman.

144 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:30:04pm

re: #134 NoSubmission

re: #129 buzzsawmonkey

re: #120 NoSubmission

You're surely not considering "East Williamsburg" Bushwick?


LOL! or how about Bed Stuy East Bushwick, or South Bronx Sobro?
No. If anything I'm leaving the city. For good.

"Don't tase me, Sobro!"

145 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:30:39pm

re: #140 buzzsawmonkey
I'm not gone yet. Still have lots more to do here.
Someone asked me about 'Nolita' recently and I had no farking idea what he was talking about. I replied that I thought it might have been a restaurant. He looked at me like I was out of it. Gee, I was only born and raised here. LOL

146 tfc3rid  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:31:23pm

Or like the City wanted to split my neightborhood into 'Upper Ridgewood' and 'Lower Ridgewood'...

You figure out why...

147 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:32:08pm

re: #133 buzzsawmonkey

re: #131 Occasional Reader


"Hell's Kitchen" became Hell's Steam Tray a long time ago.

Heck's Bistro?

Complete with Lace-Curtain Westies.

148 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:32:12pm

re: #139 tfc3rid

re: #134 NoSubmission

Same here... Soon enough....


Eventually most of us end up leaving. Never thought I would, but the idea is increasingly appealing.

149 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:33:27pm

re: #141 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

At least the cheesesteaks are good.


One good reason to stay.
:)

150 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:33:30pm

re: #145 NoSubmission

They're doing that crap here in Philly too. South of South Street is "Soso," south of Market is "Soma," Fishtown (which was named by Charles Dickens!) has some new jackass name, even the neighborhood just north of me has street flags that read "Soha" - I don't even know what the hell that stands for!

151 Highrise  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:33:39pm

re: #142 Highrise


I forgot to include in my first starred comment in 142...that in addition to that san jose/campbell area being liberal, the bay area has a ton of diversity not only in race but also in people from other countries get visa's to come work at the technical places from all over, including arab countries.

There were times in my engineering career in the bay area, I felt like the minority being white.

That same area was the one where I took that toddler class that when we would recite the little piggies on the toes, we could not say little piggy had roast beef..we had to say pizza. I'm sure pig will be eliminated from that child game soon.

152 tfc3rid  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:33:47pm

re: #148 NoSubmission

The gf has already made it perfectly clear that when we get married we've got to get out of here because we wouldn't want to raise children here...

I agree with her...

153 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:33:50pm

When I was in Chile a few years back, I wound up dining in a resturant that was in an active firehouse run by firefighters. Apparently, it's a fairly common practice in Chile for the firefighters in the larger towns to operate a small resturant or cafe out of the fire house- I'm guessing this was a way of raising money during the various economic crisises over they years that just sort of stuck.

Having said that, I'm pretty sure these men- of unidentified ethnicity aged 16-60- didn't show up at the Sacramento or Fresno fire departments looking for a bite to eat.

/This stuff about the school buses and Washington State Ferries stinks to high heaven as well.

154 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:35:05pm
155 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:35:34pm

re: #153 Fenway_Nation

How about that - genuine firehouse chili in a Chile firehouse!

156 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:36:15pm
157 Highrise  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:36:24pm

re: #153 Fenway_Nation

I just hope someone is connecting the dots somewhere that can act and see...

I don't believe in coincidences really....

158 WriterMom  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:37:09pm

re: #135 Peacekeeper

Yay. I'm making popcorn.

159 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:37:38pm

re: #153 Fenway_Nation

When I was in Chile a few years back

Actually Chile has just been renamed "SoPe" (South of Peru) by real-estate developers.

160 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:37:42pm

re: #141 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

A perfect description of my day. Construction outside my work window 9-5, then I ride the train home with the Geriatric Lesbian Brigade, only to see "IMPEACH" bumperstickers on every Pius, I mean Prius, on my block driven by smug hipsters & grey-beard hippies.


Sounds familiar!

161 tfc3rid  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:37:51pm

re: #157 Highrise

Or someone is hoping that 'vigilance fatgue' is going to make people drop their defenses...

162 leepro  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:38:19pm

re: #34 MandyManners

re: #14 xtraBilly

They could be taking pictures for the 2008 Fireman's Calendar.

Like this one?

Or, this one?

Or, this?

Mandy ROCKS!

163 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:39:38pm

re: #159 Occasional Reader

LOL!

164 inldad67  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:39:40pm

It's strange, but any tiem I see someone with a camera I do a double take. My wife says I'm getting paranoid but I'd rather err on the side of caution.One day these so called "unrelated incidents" will all add up to something...

165 WriterMom  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:40:36pm

re: #141 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

A perfect description of my day. Construction outside my work window 9-5, then I ride the train home with the Geriatric Lesbian Brigade, only to see "IMPEACH" bumperstickers on every Pius, I mean Prius, on my block driven by smug hipsters & grey-beard hippies.

ROFL. Sounds like my day, except my lesbians today were the militant Jewish lesbian Marxist sort.

(and no-they are not really MY lesbians-they are just around my work place)

166 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:40:40pm

re: #154 buzzsawmonkey
Would you believe the rent we used to pay on St. Mark's Place in the East Village - formerly known as the Lower East Side - now also stupidly named 'Loisaida'- used to be $41.00 a month in the mid-60s?

167 leepro  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:40:45pm

re: #47 PatriotLizardoid

Makes sense that if they're planning something big, they'd want to disable the first responders. So a good question would be what population centers are equidistant to all the fire department's surveyed, if any? I'm not familiar with California.

EXACTLY my thoughts!

/you beat me to it.

168 inldad67  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:40:48pm

I think I speeled TIME wrong...?

169 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:42:03pm

re: #165 WriterMom

re: #141 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

A
perfect description of my day. Construction outside my work window 9-5,
then I ride the train home with the Geriatric Lesbian Brigade, only to
see "IMPEACH" bumperstickers on every Pius, I mean Prius, on my block
driven by smug hipsters & grey-beard hippies.

ROFL. Sounds like my day, except my lesbians today were the militant Jewish lesbian Marxist sort.

(and no-they are not really MY lesbians-they are just around my work place)

Sounds like a great bumpersticker - "Not My Lesbians!"

170 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:42:56pm

re: #165 WriterMom

(and no-they are not really MY lesbians-they are just around my work place)


I just love you! LOL

171 WriterMom  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:47:16pm

HANDS OFF MY LESBIANS!

172 Dianna  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:47:28pm

re: #142 Highrise

Regarding this:

Moffett Field Nasa Ames Research Center is in Mountainview, Ca...only 14 mi's away. If it were a huge alarm fire at that field, campbell station I'm sure would be called.

It's 14 miles of the worst traffic you've ever seen, even if they take 85 to 87 (I'm around the area). I was at Moffett back in May (I think it was), and it does not seem a good target - it's too empty. However, San Jose airport is smack-dab in the middle of San Jose, with downtown less than five miles away - a lot less. Even with dreadful traffic, that would be an "all hands" kind of call.

Though I see no reason for the terrorists to repeat themselves, San Jose is a remarkably interesting location.

173 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:48:25pm

re: #163 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

And I'm not quite sure how to break the news to all the lizardoid Canucks up in what is now "NoMi" (North of Minnesota)...

174 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:48:49pm

US OUT OF MY LESBIANS

175 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:48:52pm

UPDATE!

Fox is reporting that the Iranian scumsucker told 60 minutes in an interview to be aired Sunday (why are they interviewing this murderer anyway) that he wont go to ground zero

176 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:49:40pm
177 leepro  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:51:12pm

re: #93 MandyManners

re: #84 Carol Herman

re: #34 MandyManners

Mostly, men without chest hairs are gay. Like women, they wax.

Women wax their chests? No one told me.

ROFLMAO!

178 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:51:23pm

did they yell, "don't tazer me, bro!" before they all jumped in their cars and sped away?

179 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:51:34pm

re: #173 Occasional Reader

Delaware will henceforth be known as TriBePaVaMa - Triangle Between Pennsylvania, Virginia and Maryland . Someone alert Joe Biden.

180 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:51:45pm

re: #176 buzzsawmonkey

The lesbian in the rent-controlled apartment on the floor below

Good Lord... you're an absolute lesbian magnet, man.

181 Highrise  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:52:04pm

Let's see..what else gov't wise is in fresno......

*main IRS hub.
*main agriculture area for california..could be messy if there were some fires.

Still looking.....

182 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:52:59pm

re: #174 Occasional Reader

Not In My Lesbian!

183 bob's Kid  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:53:04pm

Okay, someone's gonna have to convince me that these little incidents are unrelated. What evidence do the PTBs have that this is true?

184 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:53:52pm

re: #176 buzzsawmonkey
We had an apt. in the lower east side with a toilet in the hall too. Tub in the kitchen was standard. In fact, I never had a shower in the bathroom until I was 12 years old.
We were robbed 9 times in one place and the detective who investigated found out it was the junkie upstairs but wouldn't prosecute unless my mother slept with him.

Good times.
/

185 Highrise  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:54:18pm

re: #172 Dianna


I'm just tossing it out there :) for people who read this blog to give them an idea of the area. It's a nasa research center that I used to work right next to. I'm not sure I'd say it's empty from my tour there about 10 yrs back.

The traffic you speak of is correct if it's during peak travel times. If something is being planned in an offpeak travel time though, it isn't all that bad from my travels there.

186 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:55:20pm

re: #179 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #173 Occasional Reader

Delaware will henceforth be known as TriBePaVaMa - Triangle Between Pennsylvania, Virginia and Maryland . Someone alert Joe Biden.

Brainstorm! What if we renamed the "Sunni Triangle" something like "TriBeKu" (Triangle Below Kurdistan)? Wouldn't it immediately start filling up with overpriced lofts and adorable boutiques, ruthlessly gentrifying-out the jihadists?

187 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:55:55pm
188 WriterMom  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:56:13pm

re: #174 Occasional Reader

LOL.

US OUT OF LESBANON

189 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:56:29pm
190 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:56:46pm

re: #186 Occasional Reader

Friggin' brilliant!

191 Reluctant Democrat  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:56:47pm

Amazing how there is no description of the men in the paper...must be like Tim Blair's Men of No Appearance.

192 WriterMom  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:57:20pm

re: #186 Occasional Reader

Of course that works. They only had to dress Arafat up in a shitty peace scarf and a revolver and he became A PRESIDENT. You put Hamas jihadi murderers in suits and they become GOVERNMENT MINISTERS.

193 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:57:32pm
194 WriterMom  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:57:47pm

re: #189 buzzsawmonkey

Give them our lesbians?

195 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:57:54pm

re: #187 buzzsawmonkey

re: #180 Occasional Reader

Hey--I'm not responsible for the rest of the lesbian action on this thread.

Considering how few women will go out with me, sometimes I feel responsible for a lot of lesbian action.

196 yochanan  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:58:07pm

re: #34 MandyManners

you can be sure this will be a big hit in 'boys town'

197 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:58:12pm

re: #186 Occasional Reader

re: #179 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey


re: #173 Occasional Reader

Delaware will henceforth be known as TriBePaVaMa - Triangle Between Pennsylvania, Virginia and Maryland . Someone alert Joe Biden.


Brainstorm! What if we renamed the "Sunni Triangle" something like "TriBeKu" (Triangle Below Kurdistan)? Wouldn't it immediately start filling up with overpriced lofts and adorable boutiques, ruthlessly gentrifying-out the jihadists?

You're brilliant!

198 eastvillageinfidel  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:58:20pm

I had a few apartments with tubs in the kitchen. If you live alone , I think it's preferable to the cramped, poorly done bathrooms they always seem to put in those apts. when they "renovate".

199 WriterMom  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:58:24pm

re: #187 buzzsawmonkey

No-but you're watching.

200 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:58:49pm
201 bulwrk  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:59:04pm

re: #181 Highrise


there is not much hell of a big mosque though just outside Fresno


oh yeah a fairly large muslim own trucking company Royal Frieght is based out of Fresno.

202 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:59:07pm

re: #127 NoSubmission

re: #123 MandyManners

re: #120 NoSubmission

I believe you've cured me of my dream to live in NYC.


It was better when people were afraid to live here. Strange but true.

how abt. a dinkins write in campaign

203 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:59:32pm

re: #196 yochanan

re: #34 MandyManners

you can be sure this will be a big hit in 'boys town'

But, it'll fall flat in Lesbian Town.

204 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 1:59:51pm

In the same vein, we could re-designate Kosovo "East Clinton". Seems fitting.

205 Dianna  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:00:50pm

re: #185 Highrise

10 years ago, Moffett was a much busier place! I lived in Palo Alto then (shudder) and used to ride past there on my bike a lot.

Traffic - even off-peak traffic - just keeps getting worse. The other day, my Male had to drive from South San Jose (where he works) to Mountain View, and it took over an hour each way. You would not believe how incredibly over-burdened the freeways down in the South Bay are, lately; I don't quite believe it, myself.

206 RELOADINGISNOTAHOBBY  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:01:54pm

Would this fall under the heading of :
" Diverse persons .... doing things"!
Ya Think?

207 WriterMom  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:02:33pm

re: #203 MandyManners

The flat lesbians are not going to be very popular.

What are we talking here? Grapes? Oranges, melons? What?

208 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:03:18pm

re: #134 NoSubmission

re: #129 buzzsawmonkey

re: #120 NoSubmission

You're surely not considering "East Williamsburg" Bushwick?


LOL! or how about Bed Stuy East Bushwick, or South Bronx Sobro?
No. If anything I'm leaving the city. For good.

i know how you feel. i'm getting closer myself.

209 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:03:28pm

re: #202 nyc redneck

how abt. a dinkins write in campaign?


LOL!
ehr... no.

210 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:03:50pm

Just cause some guys don't have chest hair doesn't mean they wax. I took all mine off in a gas grill accident, also some eyebrows.

211 Harry Tuttle  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:04:01pm

re: #188 WriterMom

re: #174 Occasional Reader

LOL.

US OUT OF LESBANON

All your lesbians are belong to us.

212 Occasional Reader  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:04:11pm

"Sadr City"... no way, can you say "low-rent"? It will henceforth be known as "Euphrates Heights".

213 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:04:17pm

re: #185 Highrise

re: #172 Dianna


I'm just tossing it out there :) for people who read this blog to give them an idea of the area. It's a nasa research center that I used to work right next to. I'm not sure I'd say it's empty from my tour there about 10 yrs back.

The traffic you speak of is correct if it's during peak travel times. If something is being planned in an offpeak travel time though, it isn't all that bad from my travels there.

I can practically guarantee you that the traffic is at least twice as bad now as it was 10 yrs ago..even in the off hours.

214 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:04:20pm

re: #207 WriterMom

"Flat Lesbian" - is that like "Flat Stanley," but for San Fran?

215 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:04:41pm

re: #207 WriterMom

re: #203 MandyManners
The flat lesbians are not going to be very popular.
What are we talking here? Grapes? Oranges, melons? What?


IIRC:
Wasn't one of your Lesbians having a very special Gaza romance recently?

216 johnnygriswold  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:04:49pm

Would the 60 year old still be considered a "youth"?

I'm sure this is just a bunch of Christians up to no good. You know... like the Crusades.

217 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:06:24pm

re: #214 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #207 WriterMom

"Flat Lesbian" - is that like "Flat Stanley," but for San Fran?


Or Flat Fatima.. was she a lesb.. oh nevermind!

218 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:06:46pm
219 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:06:47pm

re: #58 MandyManners

hey I have that whole calendar. He's Mr. August (no kidding)

220 jcm  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:06:59pm

re: #132 Carol Herman

I spent 20 years on a FD, get 1000-2000 lbs of AMFO on a fire engine wouldn't take long and no mods necessary. There are water tanks on engines, and hose beds, pull 800ft off and cover the bomb with 200ft.

Problem for the bad guys is if they steal one everyone is looking for one. They have to either buy one, of fake one.

221 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:07:44pm

re: #204 Occasional Reader

In the same vein, we could re-designate Kosovo "East Clinton". Seems fitting.

One of the few, the happy few, women I date is a Serb & her feelings on Kosovo can be easily guessed. Funny that she is happy to live in America, but the muslim world shows no love for helping "free" Kosovo.

222 Dianna  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:08:05pm

re: #213 Stuck-in-CA

Moan. It's awful, and it's only getting worse. They can't revamp the roads fast enough to keep up with the increases in traffic.

The train is even crowded.

223 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:08:35pm

re: #218 buzzsawmonkey BOOO!

224 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:09:02pm

re: #220 jcm

That was the plot on the first season of "Sleeper Cell" - the terrorists bought a Fire Department command center truck & were planning on using it as a chem weapons bomb.

225 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:09:13pm

Just wanted to repost the good news in lieu of all the Lesbian talk.

Fox is reporting that the Iranian scumsucker told 60 minutes in an interview to be aired Sunday (why are they interviewing this murderer anyway) that he wont go to ground zero.

Now back to your regularly scheduled LBGT programming.

226 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:09:42pm

re: #222 Dianna

re: #213 Stuck-in-CA

Moan. It's awful, and it's only getting worse. They can't revamp the roads fast enough to keep up with the increases in traffic.

The train is even crowded.

Yup..it's just great. Let's keep those borders open. :-(

227 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:11:25pm
228 Highrise  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:14:33pm

re: #205 Dianna

Dianna,

I lived there for over a decade and just moved a tad east a few months ago. I know the area :) .

229 Dianna  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:14:35pm

re: #226 Stuck-in-CA

Gah!

230 wiggs  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:16:27pm

I just can't believe they'd be so bold... and stupid.

Don't these bozos own binoculars?

Something ain't right.

231 Highrise  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:17:49pm

re: #213 Stuck-in-CA

No, I know the traffic there in campbell as of a few months ago for over a decade. Traveled those routes many of times.

I worked in sunnyvale, santa clara, and mountainview for a number of years. I know the routes well...I lived ate and breathed working so much I really didn't even know how to get to anything else but the grocery store lol.

It was 10 yrs ago that I had a private tour of moffett field.

Look, I'm just tossing out possible stuff here so that people know the area that aren't from here..that is all.

232 Dianna  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:20:24pm

re: #228 Highrise

I moved from Fremont to San Jose last year.

Really, I thought traffic was bad in Fremont! It probably doesn't help that I'm not far from 87, the perpetual construction project. This morning, at 5:25 a.m., I could see the lights of the cars just creeping along. I swear, my dogs were moving faster, never mind that they have to sniff every square inch of the route!

233 U.S. 395  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:20:35pm

Re: my comment #105,

I noticed that the duplicate comment I had left at the bottom of the dead Ahmadinejad thread has been deleted.

Sorry, Charles, I knew there was a phone number rule. Thought that it pertained more to "outing" people or something. I meant no harm, just wanted people to know how to order a copy of today's NY Daily News with the Ahmadinejad cover. Or maybe you deleted it because it was a duplicate comment?

If you would let me know, I will better understand and not repeat the mistake. My apologies.

234 Highrise  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:21:57pm

re: #232 Dianna


haha I only have one good thing to say about fremont. You don't need air conditioning there as the breeze is just perfect.

I had a rule after I got to know the traffic in the bay area, never live north of 237! I settled in my last year in Milpitas so could take montague up to 101 a few exits. I've moved so much in the bay area, when I see moving boxes, I cringe.

235 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:23:34pm

re: #231 Highrise

re: #213 Stuck-in-CA

No, I know the traffic there in campbell as of a few months ago for over a decade. Traveled those routes many of times.
..............................

It was 10 yrs ago that I had a private tour of moffett field.

my apologies, I misunderstood the 10 yr reference. In any case..the traffic in most of California SUCKS!

236 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:24:12pm
237 Highrise  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:24:34pm

re: #235 Stuck-in-CA

You do know I'm a bit envious you got out of here...lol. I think I need your nick :P .

238 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:25:16pm

re: #235 Stuck-in-CA

Here I thought that your nic refered to you being a Lizard stuck in La-La Land. But it turns out that you are literally stuck in California!

239 Highrise  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:26:41pm

re: #238 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #235 Stuck-in-CA

Here I thought that your nic refered to you being a Lizard stuck in La-La Land. But it turns out that you are literally stuck in California!

and Stuck in California just moved! Hopefully to a better place :) .

240 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:27:32pm

re: #236 buzzsawmonkey

One of the interesting things about "LGBT"--seriously, now; I'm
setting aside jokes about Rosie O'Donnell starring as the Lesbionic
Woman--is how it keeps being added to.
blockquote>

Bur Rosie does keep being added-to.

241 Dianna  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:28:24pm

re: #234 Highrise

Me, too. I got lucky after I left Palo Alto in 98; I didn't move until last year.

We still have a garage full of tumbled boxes and "stuff" - you know, the things you can't find a home for? To say nothing of a certain recliner, beloved of the Male of the Species, that I will not allow into my parlor.

But hey, we're five minutes from his work, and not even ten from the train station. The commute's pretty awful, but the house is nice. It balances. Your rule is a good one; just wouldn't work too well for the Male's phone-leashed-job. Or at least Fremond didn't.

242 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:29:18pm

re: #237 Highrise

re: #235 Stuck-in-CA

You do know I'm a bit envious you got out of here...lol. I think I need your nick :P .


No, I am still here...STUCK in Ca. Southern CA (Redondo Beach). It's actually very nice here in this town, but leaving the town turns into a traffic nightmare no matter what time of day.

243 Highrise  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:29:46pm

Another thing I found interesting about the Bay Area when my ex was in real estate....many of the complexes made sure that only SINGLE FAMILIES could live in the homes bought in the area. I assume they were able to control that by homeowners dues and contract before buying.

I guess there were a ton of arabs and vietnamese buying up homes and having like 5 families live in one, they'd pay it off, then buy another and help each other that way. People said *enough of that* and that is why that phrase is used.

244 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:29:58pm
245 Dianna  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:30:43pm

re: #236 buzzsawmonkey

Well said.

Oh, O'Reilly just had a caller ask why the UN can't be moved to San Francisco, where it started.

O'Reilly said, "I want it moved out of the country, but I guess San Francisco would do."

246 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:31:18pm

#227

Tell me truthfully: when you see "LGBT," don't you really start thinking of bacon, lettuce and tomato sandwiches?

Well....I actually start thinking of Lettuce Guacamole Bacon & Tomato sandwhiches.

#155
for whatever it's worth, I think poultry and seafood (only fair, since the whole country looks like nothing but coastline on the globe) were specialites of the firehouse resturants in Chile. Firehouse chili in a firehouse in Chile would've been great- something out of a Dr. Seuss book, maybe?

247 FlyingTigress  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:32:25pm

re: #181 Highrise

Let's see..what else gov't wise is in fresno......

*main IRS hub.
*main agriculture area for california..could be messy if there were some fires.

Still looking.....

Central Valley....Grapes... ergo 72 scoops of white raisins.

248 Dianna  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:33:11pm

re: #243 Highrise

It's in all the CC&Rs. That doesn't stop some people from cramming folks into the garage.

Wild stuff.

249 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:34:10pm

re: #245 Dianna

re: #236 buzzsawmonkey

Well said.

Oh, O'Reilly just had a caller ask why the UN can't be moved to San Francisco, where it started.

O'Reilly said, "I want it moved out of the country, but I guess San Francisco would do."


philosophically speaking, San Fran IS out of the country.

250 leepro  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:34:54pm

re: #217 NoSubmission

re: #214 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #207 WriterMom

"Flat Lesbian" - is that like "Flat Stanley," but for San Fran?


Or Flat Fatima.. was she a lesb.. oh nevermind!

Hey! Lay off the "flat" cracks. Hurts my feelings...

:p

251 Highrise  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:35:37pm

re: #241 Dianna

You can't beat that 5 mins. That is why I ended up moving to milpitas, my husband's work was right there 5 mins away. I grew up with a dad that commuted bless his heart..for 3 hours total a day to Boeing in Renton/Kent, WA to make sure we had a home and lived in the country. I'd never do that to my kid though..commuting really takes a chunk out of the family so if it can be avoided, it should be if you have kids. He really thought he did the right thing for us but I do think it may have hindered bonding with him. I give him credit though for days that we had soccer or baseball games, the guy would go in extra early so he could come home early and never miss them. Sometimes I must admit that one just can't second guess things too much as there is no crystal ball. Perhaps if we lived in the city I would have been a troubled kid...hehe.

----------------------------------

re: #242 Stuck-in-CA

oops looks like I got my people confused. I thought you had asked for a nic change at one time due to moving east.

252 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:36:20pm
253 Dianna  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:38:03pm

re: #249 Stuck-in-CA

Whimper! Mercy!

This city makes me want to cry. Some days, it's like it's not in the same reality.

254 Highrise  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:39:05pm

Well whatever is going on..may God truly be with our first responders...

They do NOT get paid enough and they have some of the biggest hearts I have ever seen. Worked among them for about 4 years....I have a deep fondness for their patriotism.

255 leepro  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:39:28pm

re: #252 ploome hineni

re: #250 leepro



Hey! Lay off the "flat" cracks. Hurts my feelings...:p

cracks hurts my feelings!

:P

LOL

256 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:40:10pm
257 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:40:59pm
258 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:41:05pm

It's official then...homeland security sucks balls. Regular men smell a fish and approach said fish only to find said fish speed away. Then the regular men are told to conclude that there is no fish and no stink. Nice. Hey, we're in a war for our survival, so we're told. So, to combat this war for our survival, let's keep the borders open, sell our ports to some Dubai outfit, condemn any hint at racial profiling, and rely on John McCain and Rudy G. to adequately snub Ahmadinejad's request while Bush takes up fiddle as America burns....isn't that the point of the post, after all? Bizarre surveillance of firehouses? Why would that be? What preoccupies men and citizens and resources better than multiple brush fires? The Japanese concocted a plan early in WWII to attempt to set the western states ablaze with arson attacks. It didn't' work then. But who is to say it isn't working now?

259 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:45:21pm

re: #251 Highrise


oops looks like I got my people confused. I thought you had asked for a nic change at one time due to moving east.

That was probably Stuck-in-california you are thinking of. We are 2 different people with almost identical nics. He's a he, I'm a she. I haven't heard from him in awhile, so I am not sure if he's still "stuck" or not.

260 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:54:29pm
261 SunCat  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:01:38pm

Fire fighters, get your own digital cameras ready to photograph the people who photograph you. License plates and vehicle descriptions as well.

262 gymgal  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:01:52pm

Another 2 men casing things out. They seem to travel in two's don't they? 2 men on the ferry taking pictures, 2 men arrested in S Carolina with supposed fireworks, 2 men jumping on a school bus. Things that make you go HMMMMMM.....

263 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:07:52pm

re: #260 buzzsawmonkey

don't be too hard on ploome. Murderous impulses and murder have been around since the beginning of time too, but that doesn't mean we legitimize it. Though the way things are going, I'm sure there will be a lobby group for murderers one day to try and do so.

264 gozips  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:08:04pm

re: #15 BLBfootballs

Men, huh? 30-40? Wow, don't they know how insensitive they are picking out this demographic? I think that they should only be able to be described as "live forms", thereby not offending any human (or other mammal, fish or lizard.

265 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:12:56pm
266 Shaky Louie  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:15:33pm

It was just individuals doing things.
Have to just shrug it off when you realize that it was just individuals doing things. Sure they speed away, but that's because these individuals were finished doing things.

267 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:25:30pm

re: #265 buzzsawmonkey

re: #265 buzzsawmonkey

It's not that I am equating homosexuality with murder. I am just making the point that there are all kinds of impulses and behaviors. A society has to decide whether they are acceptable or not. Our society is moving in the direction of legitimizing homosexuality. That doesn't make it right (not in my book anyway). Look at what Islamic societies legitimize in the way of behaviors. That ugly list is endless. And it doesn't exactly strengthen that society.

268 FlyingTigress  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:36:16pm

re: #242 Stuck-in-CA

re: #237 Highrise


re: #235 Stuck-in-CA

You do know I'm a bit envious you got out of here...lol. I think I need your nick :P .


No, I am still here...STUCK in Ca. Southern CA (Redondo Beach). It's actually very nice here in this town, but leaving the town turns into a traffic nightmare no matter what time of day.

FT = former (1973-1976) R.B. resident/ Aviation H.S. grad. Whereabouts, generally?

269 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:49:05pm
270 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:55:18pm

re: #268 FlyingTigress

I live on Beryl near PCH (just up the hill from King Harbor). Ring a bell?

271 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:59:32pm

re: #269 buzzsawmonkey

I won't address the issue of what "does not make homosexuality right" without some further explanation on your part, since that can allude to any number of things. I am merely pointing out that how society chooses to respond to practitioners of homosexual behavior need not be determined by a "movement" which contains many self-contradicting elements.


Well, I agree with you on the whole "movement" thing. Everyone wants a lobby group today and all that does is separate people and pit them against each other.

272 U.S. 395  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:05:36pm

re: #270 Stuck-in-CA

re: #268 FlyingTigress

I live on Beryl near PCH (just up the hill from King Harbor). Ring a bell?

Wow.. my friend Willy the painter just moved out of one of the last surf shacks there.... #207. Remember the white Toyota pickup? You may have walked past the white picket fence some night as we grilled in the front yard!

If so, "hi!"

273 Carol Herman  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:20:27pm

re: #204 Occasional Reader

In the same vein, we could re-designate Kosovo "East Clinton". Seems fitting.


Clinton-East'a is already taken.

274 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:25:40pm

re: #272 U.S. 395

re: #270 Stuck-in-CA


re: #268 FlyingTigress

I live on Beryl near PCH (just up the hill from King Harbor). Ring a bell?


Wow.. my friend Willy the painter just moved out of one of the last surf shacks there.... #207. Remember the white Toyota pickup? You may have walked past the white picket fence some night as we grilled in the front yard!

If so, "hi!"

yes, I probaby have! I think I know the one. I walk up and down that hill all the time. Small world.

275 DockScience  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:30:32pm

I guess the Californians may be starting to get over their idea that being unarmed and innocent is protection against terrorism and crime.

276 FlyingTigress  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:35:33pm

re: #270 Stuck-in-CA

re: #268 FlyingTigress

I live on Beryl near PCH (just up the hill from King Harbor). Ring a bell?


Yeppers! Looking at local.live.com, it appears to have changed a lot since I was still living in the South Bay area (RH 1962, PVE 63-73, RB 73-76).

277 DistantThunder  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 5:33:41pm

When we moved to Silicon Valley aka Santa Clara County in 1972 it was all apricot orchards out by IBM and most of the valley.

We bought a home in Saratoga where I went to high school for $62,000. Now those homes sell for 1.5 million. MILLION!

Later we owned a horse farm in Los Gatos - Now mansions sit on that land. Absurdly large mansions on little 1/3 acre plots - stupid.

278 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 5:43:06pm
279 mattm  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 6:47:26pm

If memory serves me right, you don't need a key to start a fire truck. If someone broke into a Vol. FD they could probably get out with a truck. No one would suspect a fire truck parked next to a office building, mall or sports arena.

280 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 6:53:52pm

re: #276 FlyingTigress

re: #270 Stuck-in-CA


re: #268 FlyingTigress

I live on Beryl near PCH (just up the hill from King Harbor). Ring a bell?


Yeppers! Looking at local.live.com, it appears to have changed a lot since I was still living in the South Bay area (RH 1962, PVE 63-73, RB 73-76).

I moved here in 1990, and it's changed alot since I've been here. It's probably unrecognizable to you.

281 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 6:58:04pm

re: #278 buzzsawmonkey

Well, gosharootie. It looks like some people have a little problem with Lesbian Levity (tm), discussions of gay rights, or something of the sort--at least if one can judge by the trail of negative checkmarks on some of the preceding posts.

It does not, however, appear that Negative Check Person has made the causes of, or basis for, his/her/its ire known, so that these causes--or his/her/its misunderstandings--can be discussed and addressed.

Which is, of course, his/her/its weaselly, gutless, skulking right.

you talking about me, buzzsaw? I am not weaselly or gutless. I had to run out and then start dinner!

I'm happy to debate homosexuality with you. I think it's unnatural. Is that a good enough reason for you? Are you gay...is that why you are offended that I am not aok with homosexuality? I have friends and a very close cousin who are gay. I still love them, I just don't approve of their lifestyle. I don't think it's a crime.

282 6pat6  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:31:06pm

"Nothing to see here. Typical paranoia/islamophobia/whining of the Right. The islamists are our friends."

/channeling the Lefty response...

283 OneGyT  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:56:37pm

No indication they were connected? How often does this kind of thing happen in the same day?

Then again, it is California...

284 wildfire  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 10:38:26pm

October is fire season in California. That's when the Santa Ana winds kick up and because everything is dry fires are a real problem. Lawrence Livermore is up that way - not sure how close to these reported firehouse photo shoots. It seems to me a large fire there could be a disaster especially if our fireman were to be incapacitated in some way first.

285 U.S. 395  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 12:40:06am

re: #274 Stuck-in-CA

re: #272 U.S. 395

re: #270 Stuck-in-CA

re: #268 FlyingTigressI live on Beryl near PCH (just up the hill from King Harbor). Ring a bell?

Wow.. my friend Willy the painter just moved out of one of the last surf shacks there.... #207. Remember the white Toyota pickup? You may have walked past the white picket fence some night as we grilled in the front yard!If so, "hi!"
yes, I probaby have! I think I know the one. I walk up and down that hill all the time. Small world.

Bet you did walk by and we greeted each other as we BBQed! #207 was (still is) on the left, a couple doors past the Dive 'n' Surf Shop. Pickup was older, plain-Jane Toyota, with ladders,/paint buckets. Good times there! Small world indeed.

286 Captain Sensible  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 4:25:22am
The man who took the photos was described as being between 30 and 40 years of age.

...and of no identifiable ethnic or religious background?

287 Captain Sensible  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 4:30:03am

re: #45 Kenneth

re: #34 MandyManners

Cold shower, Mandy!

Hey don't give Mandy grief, I'm male and straight but even I can see the appeal.

288 Ron(Ron)  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 6:02:10am

I have only one word: License Plate. Didn't any one of these people note down the easily read license plate or plates? Especially after stations received notification of a possible terrorism connection?

289 WriterMom  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 6:55:29am

re: #215 NoSubmission

Silly NoSub-that was last year's anti-Israel lesbian. She was a "Christian Peacekeeper". LOL

290 WriterMom  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 6:56:29am

re: #250 leepro

We are not talking about the cracks. Perv. That is tushy territory and I ain't going there.

;)

291 wargammer2005  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 7:03:28am

re: #69 Carol Herman

it if possible to get old fire trucks
for restoration (quote-unquote)

after all, most people in this country are asleep.

292 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 8:44:59am
293 KayMichelle  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:20:15am

Are we to assume that these young men were blonde hair blue eyed Methodists?


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