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Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 2:08:45 pm PDT

Drudge has an excerpt from this Sunday’s 60 Minutes, an interview with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in which he says he won’t insist on visiting Ground Zero.

And he’s “amazed” anyone would be insulted.

PELLEY: Mr. President, do you intend to press your request to visit the World Trade Center site?

AHMADINEJAD: Well, it was included in my program. If we have the time and the conditions are conducive, I will try to do that.

PELLEY: But the New York Police Department and others do not appear to want you there. Do you intend to go there anyway?

AHMADINEJAD: Well, over there, local officials need to make the necessary coordinations. If they can’t do that, I won’t insist.

PELLEY: Sir, what were you thinking? The World Trade Center site is the most sensitive place in the American heart, and you must have known that visiting there would be insulting to many, many Americans.

AHMADINEJAD: Why should it be insulting?

PELLEY: But the American people, sir, believe that your country is a terrorist nation, exporting terrorism in the world. You must have known that visiting the World Trade Center site would infuriate many Americans.

AHMADINEJAD: Well, I’m amazed. How can you speak for the whole of the American nation?

PELLEY: Well, the American nation—

AHMADINEJAD: You are representing a media and you’re a reporter. The American nation is made up of 300 million people. There are different points of view over there.

Daily Kos, he’s talking to you.

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1 Nadnerb  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:10:21pm

Speaking to the enemy within...

2 Dianna  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:10:26pm

Good.

But why are they bothering to interview him?

3 Fat Tone  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:10:27pm

He should visit Gitmo, after he sees the Holocaust museum.

4 NoSubmission  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:10:32pm

Wheew!

5 Angel  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:10:41pm

There is a God after all!

As a New Yorker who worked at Ground Zero for months...all I can say is...
THANK GOD!

6 Maui Girl  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:12:27pm

I guess we need to take a nationwide poll just to let little Mr. Dinnerjacket know that the majority of Americans DO feel the way Mr. Pelley is saying we do. Little worm!

7 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:12:32pm

I still say we toss him off the Brooklyn Bridge.

8 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:13:08pm

It's too bad Pelley isn't trained in hand-to-hand combat.

/i could break your neck just like... oh, never mind

9 bluegrass boy  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:13:09pm

why is he allowed in my country in the first place?...

10 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:14:25pm

Love that bolding, Charles. The $ quote so to speak.

11 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:14:26pm
Ahmadinejad Won't Visit Ground Zero

Then we should take the planned protest to him at the UN.

12 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:15:08pm

Should still contact Columbia University and let them know he should not be invited to speak there.

13 Perry  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:15:10pm

I don't believe him. I guess I'll just stay mad until he's gone back home. Why is he being allowed to come anyway? Nazi-sympathizing, terrorist, s-o-b.

I don't mean to throw a tantrum and stir the pot, but I do not believe the man.

14 Gearhead  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:15:46pm
AHMADINEJAD: You are representing a media and you’re a reporter. The American nation is made up of 300 million people. There are different points of view over there.

My irony meter just pegged. Did the reporter have the stones to bring up the plight of Iranians with "different points of view" from the Mullahs?

15 bluegrass boy  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:15:56pm

intercept his flight and turn him back...its ridiculous that he is allowed to come here...

16 Athos  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:16:32pm

re: #11 Ringo the Gringo

Ahmadinejad Won't Visit Ground Zero

Then we should take the planned protest to him at the UN.

Don't forget to also picket / protest at Columbia U.

17 eastvillageinfidel  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:16:34pm

re: #11 Ringo the Gringo

I'm in.

18 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:17:04pm

I would not put it past him to direct his limo to pass Groud Zero and for him to get out for a photograph anyhow.

19 Athos  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:17:12pm

re: #14 Gearhead

AHMADINEJAD: You are representing a media and you’re a reporter. The American nation is made up of 300 million people. There are different points of view over there.

My irony meter just pegged. Did the reporter have the stones to bring up the plight of Iranians with "different points of view" from the Mullahs?

That would have been the 'right' response for Pelley...as opposed to being caught flat footed.

20 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:17:19pm

re: #11 Ringo the Gringo

PLAN B. Shouldn't be much of a problem,bein' it's Turtle Bay and all. Don't know if he'd catch it, however.

Hmmm. Kind of wondering though - can a turtle stick his head in his ass?

21 tivadoc  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:17:30pm

I bet he wouldn't agree with MY point of view.

22 gop_patriot  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:17:32pm

re: #14 Gearhead

AHMADINEJAD: You are representing a media and you’re a reporter. The American nation is made up of 300 million people. There are different points of view over there.
My irony meter just pegged. Did the reporter have the stones to bring up the plight of Iranians with "different points of view" from the Mullahs?

That's exactly what I was thinking.

23 new2thezoo  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:17:38pm

Maybe we should escort him to the Holocaust Museum, if wants to do a little sight seeing in NYC.

24 Eowyn2  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:17:44pm

re: #13 Perry

I don't believe him. I guess I'll just stay mad until he's gone back home. Why is he being allowed to come anyway? Nazi-sympathizing, terrorist, s-o-b.

I don't mean to throw a tantrum and stir the pot, but I do not believe the man.

Yeah. He doesnt actually SAY that he wont be visiting ground zero, just that he might not if security cannot be arranged. Sounds wishy swishy to me.

Tin Cup Dictator with a little footed man complex.

25 Perry  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:17:55pm

A photo op there would be a trophy. No way will he pass it up.

26 trailortrash  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:18:25pm
Daily Kos, he’s talking to you.

no doubt...

27 Sharku  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:18:27pm

let him land, visit the un, and give him half the fuel he needs to get back across the atlantic

28 Render  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:18:40pm

And yet...

Pelly did not claim to be speaking for the American people as a whole.

"...and you must have known that visiting there would be insulting to many, many Americans."

"You must have known that visiting the World Trade Center site would infuriate many Americans."

That "many Americans" clearly does not include the Kostards, the Troofers, or at least 20 some-odd Democratic congress-critters.

It does, however, include all of the sane people in America...

MANIAC
MUNCHKIN,
R

29 g3n3r1c  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:18:53pm

AHMADINEJAD: You are representing a media and you’re a reporter. The American nation is made up of 300 million people. There are different points of view over there.

PELLEY(my follow up question): Why do you not allow different points of views and open minds and opinions in your country, Mr. President

30 Pent.  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:18:55pm

Funny how they address the leader of a nation that we knowingly harbors and aids terrorist activity with such formality and respect...

31 Athos  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:19:19pm

re: #24 Eowyn2

re: #13 Perry

I don't believe him. I guess I'll just stay mad until he's gone back home. Why is he being allowed to come anyway? Nazi-sympathizing, terrorist, s-o-b.

I don't mean to throw a tantrum and stir the pot, but I do not believe the man.

Yeah. He doesnt actually SAY that he wont be visiting ground zero, just that he might not if security cannot be arranged. Sounds wishy swishy to me.

Tin Cup Dictator with a little footed man complex.

He's just trying to play to the media and nutroots - just like Castro, Chavez, etc and stir the pot. Easiest way to solve the problem - deny him entry.

32 Spiny Norman  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:19:32pm
Daily Kos, he’s talking to you.

Most Kos Kidz will take that as a compliment.

33 gedalia  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:19:59pm

As a structural engineer, I am sure we can rearrange the rebar 9 steel reinforcement bars) in a nearby construction, preferably a foundation, to provide enough space accommodate a longer visit. People may think he disappeared like the 12th imam.

34 Curt  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:20:16pm

You are representing a media and you’re a reporter. The American nation is made up of 300 million people.

Yep, irony alright, Gearhead. When the MSM says something Mr. A likes, then they speak for the American people, like the mortgage market going under and all Americans not having health care. When it contradicts his vision, then the MSM isn't worthy to speak for the masses.

Sheesh!

35 So?  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:20:27pm

Why the hell are American institutions falling all over themselves to give the hatemonger Dinnerjacket the time of day?

Now 60 Minutes (Dumbasses) are going to interview him, so he can openly say, "I don't see a problem visiting ground zero." I say call CBS and tell them to can the upcoming show (Sept 23) show. His disgusting face should not be permitted on American TV.

I posted this 10 minutes ago in the open thread thread and wondered why nobody was responding...then I decide to go front page and here you all are...with this story.

/you sly devils: leaving me hanging out alone

36 yochanan  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:20:29pm

fornicate him and the goat his father had to make him no human is that fugly. except for maybe the shehag and rosie o'd

37 Athos  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:20:30pm

re: #30 Pent.

Funny how they address the leader of a nation that we knowingly harbors and aids terrorist activity with such formality and respect...

He learned from Rather...who learned from Cronkite who probably learned from admiring Duranty.

38 bluegrass boy  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:20:46pm

re: #30 Pent.

Funny how they address the leader of a nation that we knowingly harbors and aids terrorist activity with such formality and respect...

deep down even the most hardcore libs know that dinnerjacket is really capable of the stuff they accuse bush of doing...

39 Gagdad Bob  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:20:53pm

They should let him visit Ground Zero, with the understanding that he is looking at the future of Iran's nuclear program.

40 wetfun  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:20:56pm

He wants to honor the 19, not the fallen, but the hijackers!

41 Eowyn2  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:21:16pm

re: #31 Athos

re: #24 Eowyn2


re: #13 Perry

I don't believe him. I guess I'll just stay mad until he's gone back home. Why is he being allowed to come anyway? Nazi-sympathizing, terrorist, s-o-b.

I don't mean to throw a tantrum and stir the pot, but I do not believe the man.


Yeah. He doesnt actually SAY that he wont be visiting ground zero, just that he might not if security cannot be arranged. Sounds wishy swishy to me.

Tin Cup Dictator with a little footed man complex.


He's just trying to play to the media and nutroots - just like Castro, Chavez, etc and stir the pot. Easiest way to solve the problem - deny him entry.

He doesnt have Chavez or Castro's GRAVITAS:)

Reminds me of Snape in the Potter books.

42 Gearhead  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:21:17pm

Even if he does decide to go, he should be easy to track with that green glow.

43 PineCone  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:21:31pm

I like McCain's position. He said that Ahmadinejad sould be physically restrained if necessary to keep him from going to Ground Zero.

44 stuck in california  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:22:03pm

Let me explain it to you SIR. It won't take long. Excuse us for a moment...

45 g3n3r1c  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:22:13pm

re: #40 wetfun

He wants to honor the 19, not the fallen, but the hijackers!

unfortunately thats the truth behind the request I'm afraid

46 So?  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:22:44pm

re: #2 Dianna

Good.

But why are they bothering to interview him?

That's what I said.

47 new2thezoo  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:22:51pm
#30 Pent. 9/20/07 2:18:55 pm reply quote report

Funny how they address the leader of a nation that we knowingly harbors and aids terrorist activity with such formality and respect...


When Dennis the Menace Kuchinich meets him, he will bow low, get on his knees and call him, 'His Excellency'... then Nan will don her hajib and swoon at her idol...
/I'm gagging, I'm gagging... quick some V-8.

48 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:22:55pm

I hope Americans will still be able to give him hell when he comes here.

49 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:22:55pm

that worthless sob better not change his mind.

50 bulwrk  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:23:00pm

Why should it be insulting?

This from a guy who belongs to the religion of the perpetually insulted

51 Mich-again  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:23:40pm
Daily Kos, he’s talking to you.

ROFL! You know he does see eye to eye with Markos.

52 Perry  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:24:06pm

re: #43 PineCone

I agree with McCain on that. Wouldn't mind helping.

53 bluegrass boy  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:24:11pm

re: #51 Mich-again

Daily Kos, he’s talking to you.

ROFL! You know he does see eye to eye with Markos.

is he that short also?

54 Eowyn2  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:24:24pm

re: #47 new2thezoo

#30 Pent. 9/20/07 2:18:55 pm reply quote report
Funny how they address the leader of a nation that we knowingly harbors and aids terrorist activity with such formality and respect...

When Dennis the Menace Kuchinich meets him, he will bow low, get on his knees and call him, 'His Excellency'... then Nan will don her hajib and swoon at her idol...
/I'm gagging, I'm gagging... quick some V-8.

And there will be a glow about his personage.

55 jones  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:24:25pm

Countdown 'til some moron writes a "Iran didn't have anything to do with 9/11" piece.

56 So?  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:24:44pm

What is CBS hoping for?

/Ratings

57 g3n3r1c  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:25:07pm

re: #52 Perry

re: #43 PineCone

I agree with McCain on that. Wouldn't mind helping.

I say we let the men he personally held captive back in 1979 hold him back

58 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:25:12pm

re: #39 Gagdad Bob

To let him desecrate what is sacred ground? No. I am so greatful that he will not be there.

The fragments of people from my suburb are there..and the families and friends have been hurt more than enough. This would devastate them.

59 Eowyn2  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:25:32pm

re: #55 jones

Countdown 'til some moron writes a "Iran didn't have anything to do with 9/11" piece.

Check the op ed page of the sunday times. NY times, LA times, Picayune times.

60 g3n3r1c  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:25:35pm

re: #55 jones

Countdown 'til some moron writes a "Iran didn't have anything to do with 9/11" piece.

its already on HuffPO

61 Perry  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:25:48pm

re: #57 g3n3r1c

Poetic.

62 So?  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:26:00pm

re: #7 Ringo the Gringo

I still say we toss him off the Brooklyn Bridge.

...and then toss him again

63 SonOfLiberty  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:26:55pm

re: #40 wetfun

I've been saying this all day; I totally, totally agree.

64 Gearhead  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:27:05pm

re: #7 Ringo, #62 So?

Isn't dwarf tossing illegal?

65 g3n3r1c  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:27:17pm

re: #60 g3n3r1c

re: #55 jones

Countdown 'til some moron writes a "Iran didn't have anything to do with 9/11" piece.

its already on HuffPO

collapse altohone (See profile | I'm a fan of altohone)
Give me a break.

Iran was one of the first nations to condemn the attack on 9/11.
Iran aided American efforts to oust the Taliban from Afghanistan.

Iran is not Al Quaida.
Iran did not attack us on 9/11, and having Ahmedinjad stand with us against those who actually attacked us would be a wise policy to weaken support for Bin Laden.

The neocon goal is to use 9/11 to conflate these conflicts. Endless repetition of their talking points means that to this day 30% of Americans still think Saddam was involved when he wasn't. These new talking points are aimed at convincing Americans to allow another pre-emptive attack on a nation that poses no clear or present danger.

Embracing a visit by Ahmedinjad to ground zero would be a PR coup that divides Muslims into those who support Al Quaida and those who oppose them.

Opposing the visit fuels the herd mentality supported by Bush/Cheney that may well lead to another disastrous war based on lies.

66 chinesearithmetic  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:27:19pm

#22 Did the reporter have the stones to bring up the plight of Iranians with "different points of view" from the Mullahs?

Iran knows from stones.

67 Curt  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:27:28pm

I wonder if Obama has written Mr. A into his meeting schedule while he is in the US?

You know, he says we should talk to our enemies...

Oh, then Hillary will have to show up, to get the same check mark...what size burqa does Hillary wear? Will the fashion reporters tell us about that part of the meeting?

68 Pent.  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:27:32pm

re: #37 Athos

re: #30 Pent.

Funny how they address the leader of a nation that we knowingly harbors and aids terrorist activity with such formality and respect...

He learned from Rather...who learned from Cronkite who probably learned from admiring Duranty.

It just amazes me that through their constant claims of 'journalistic integrity' and 'unbias' that they lose all sense of what is simply decent. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised at this, considering the world is the way it is now.

69 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:27:43pm

Evil little dwarf bastard. Looks like the offspring of arafish and madeline halfbright.

70 tubbyhubby  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:28:45pm

"different points of view" here indeed. Tar and feathers before strapping the culprit to a rail, or after.

71 Bob's Kid  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:28:59pm

He's got the lefty doublespeak down, doesn't he?

72 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:29:11pm

re: #56 So?

What is CBS hoping for?

/Ratings

I never watch it, so they won't get any ratings from me.

73 reloadingisnotahobby  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:29:20pm

How many day's in jail would a person...be sentenced to for throwing Pig blood water ballons at this POS!
...Just askin?

74 the Daily Kos Om Islaam  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:29:30pm

I say let Ahmedinejad visit ground zero. Then we can fly in Sen. Obama to rendezvous with Ahmedinejad there, and request Obama ask Ahmedinejad, "Just who bombed the twin towers?"

PLUS SIDE: Ahmedinejad poses to the American media and admits Muslim scum bombed the towers.

or

OTHER PLUS SIDE: Ahmedinejad retorts to Obama that the "Jooos" did it, and Obama is videotaped forming a buffoonish expression on his face as he realizes the declaration made a few months ago to meet and speak with crazy world leaders without precondition was a crock of chara.

75 lefty201  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:29:31pm

we're giving this little 5'2" attention whore more respect than he deserves letting him come into the country. I think his plane needs to suddenly burst into flames as it crosses american airspace, and send him straight to his Virginians. And as far as what this reporter called him "Mr. President" I think that in and of it'self deserves a taserin.

screw that little bastard i'manattentionwhore.

76 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:29:43pm

re: #69 pingjockey

Evil little dwarf bastard. Looks like the offspring of arafish and madeline halfbright.

Shhh! Don't let the secret out!

77 bulwrk  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:29:57pm

re: #40 wetfun

He wants to honor the 19, not the fallen, but the hijackers!

Or he's looking for the hidden imam.

78 justacanuck  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:30:13pm
AHMADINEJAD: You are representing a media and you’re a reporter. The American nation is made up of 300 million people. There are different points of view over there.

Hey, pick me AhmaDinnerjacket! I've got a different point of view from those pesky sensitive Americans. I think you should indeed visit ground zero. In particular, I'd like to have you stand against the FDNY's 9-11 Memorial Wall where some of New York's finest and other interested parties could provide you with several 21-gun salutes in honour of your visit.

If these plans meet with your approval, please advise, as I have a Canadian contingent already lined up to fly to New York and help out with the 'ceremonies'.

Your pal,

Justa Pissed Off Canuckistani.

79 Eowyn2  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:30:28pm

re: #56 So?

What is CBS hoping for?

/Ratings

Sunday starts the new shows.
60 minutes is screwed in the ratings for this week.

Its a posterity piece. One they can drag out for their Best Of series after they settle with Dan's immediate kin.

"see aren't we progressive in keeping our minds open to the wind in the willows"

80 june_july  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:30:43pm

Dinnerjacket is a lunatic messianic pig, no doubt, but he is a smart slick POS. He knows how to tweak the West's sensibilities.

His responses to the "reporter" were pretty good. This is not a guy we want to underestimate.

81 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:31:05pm

re: #56 So?

I have not watched SeeBS since Blathergate. And I will not be watching this...even if it was on Fox, but I don't think they would have it...can you just picture Geraldo kissing Ahmadinadinnerstraightjacket's tush?

82 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:31:12pm

re: #67 Curt

I wonder if Obama has written Mr. A into his meeting schedule while he is in the US?

You know, he says we should talk to our enemies...

Oh, then Hillary will have to show up, to get the same check mark...what size burqa does Hillary wear? Will the fashion reporters tell us about that part of the meeting?

To receive further instructions from Mr. A?

83 hsmomof2  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:31:23pm
AHMADINEJAD: Why should it be insulting?

PELLEY: But the American people, sir, believe that your country is a terrorist nation, exporting terrorism in the world. You must have known that visiting the World Trade Center site would infuriate many Americans.


I find it interesting that, as an american and someone who makes his living using words, Pelley can't seem to clearly say why the american people would be insulted by Ahmadinejad getting anywhere near ground zero. Why couldn't he just say, "Because that is the place where cowardly terrorist thugs murdered 3,000 innocent americans. You have made it clear that you and your government support these terrorists and their successors. Why shouldn't we be insulted at your request to stand at the graves of innocents to gloat?"

84 So?  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:31:36pm

re: #64 Gearhead

re: #7 Ringo, #62 So?

Isn't dwarf tossing illegal?

Not on the Brooklyn Bridge LOL

85 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:32:04pm

re: #79 Eowyn2

re: #56 So?


What is CBS hoping for?

/Ratings


Sunday starts the new shows.
60 minutes is screwed in the ratings for this week.

Its a posterity piece. One they can drag out for their Best Of series after they settle with Dan's immediate kin.

"see aren't we progressive in keeping our minds open to the wind in the willows"

Actually, I think the premieres begin on Monday, the 24th.

86 sheik yer'mami  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:32:16pm

Masters of doublespeak. You can't beat a Muhammedan in that.

Chutzpah, an old jiddish word, according to Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz, is best defined by somebody who murders his mother and father, only to claim leniency in the courts because he has now become an orphan.

check out this poptard at the Guardian:

[Link: sheikyermami.com...]

87 Pickle  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:32:38pm

He has a point, unfortunately. Lots of fifth column terrorist symapthizers in America, such as the Kossacks, Moveon.org crowd, and Democrats in general, are probably wondering what all the fuss is about.

88 insanity police  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:33:09pm
PELLEY: But the American people, sir, believe that your country is a terrorist nation, exporting terrorism in the world. You must have known that visiting the World Trade Center site would infuriate many Americans.

I give him credit for saying that. Pretty gutsy if you ask me.

I cannot understand why Dinnerjacket is surprised. Shows how clueless he really is. He's in for a rude awakening when he comes to NYC.

He're the info. for his Columbia Q&A:

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad Speaks On Campus
September 24, 2007 from 1:30 - 2:30 PM
Roone Arledge Auditorium, Alfred Lerner Hall

89 GreenSoccer  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:33:53pm

Sounds like he has more sense than our so called leaders.

90 commander_vimes  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:34:01pm

re: #87 Pickle

He has a point, unfortunately. Lots of fifth column terrorist symapthizers in America, such as the Kossacks, Moveon.org crowd, and Democrats in general, are probably wondering what all the fuss is about.

Yep, I'm in an email "debate" with some who just don't see why not. needless to say, they're losing.

91 Eowyn2  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:34:15pm

re: #65 g3n3r1c

You gotta learn to use quotes.

Evidently none of the huffpos were outta diapers in 75.

92 Sifty  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:34:21pm

WAAA! You're a reporter! You are supposed to be on my side!

WAAA!

93 So?  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:35:13pm

re: #79 Eowyn2

re: #56 So?

What is CBS hoping for?

/Ratings

Sunday starts the new shows.
60 minutes is screwed in the ratings for this week.

Its a posterity piece. One they can drag out for their Best Of series after they settle with Dan's immediate kin.

"see aren't we progressive in keeping our minds open to the wind in the willows"

We can't stop Iran's behead of state from appearing at the UN but we can request that CBS quash this particular interview. Don't they see how wrong that is? CBS ratings will soon be ZERO.

94 GreenSoccer  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:35:21pm

PS I meant by him "deciding" to not insist on visiting it, shows sense, in contrast to our spineless jerky leaders who can't figure it out.

95 traeh  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:35:59pm

Ahmadinutjob is so out-of-the-loop loopy that it seems possible he really is amazed.

96 U.S. 395  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:36:52pm

Ahmadinejad's last paragraph tells it all. He's skillfully using the irresponsible and irrational behavior of those Americans and media exhibiting BDS as a wedge to split the nation.

This is case study in how to lose a world war. I almost admire Ahmadinejad for his answers. He's playing our media and the BDSers like bagpipes on the way to a funeral. Hope it isn't ours.

97 Eowyn2  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:37:08pm

re: #85 Ward Cleaver

fox sunday night cartoon lineup.

98 PeaceBeUponHim  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:38:01pm

re: #11 Ringo the Gringo

Ahmadinejad Won't Visit Ground Zero

Then we should take the planned protest to him at the UN.

We should take Ground Zero to him.

99 insanity police  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:39:06pm

He should be arrested the second he steps his monkey foot on American soil.

100 pvoce  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:39:45pm

At last! Common sense prevails! That would be the last place we would need to hear about us being the "Great Satan"

101 Sifty  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:39:59pm

Move the protest to the UN or wherever the little bastard holes up. Let the evil little garden gnome know we won't stand for his garbage, even though some spineless politicians will.

102 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:40:05pm

Mahmoud, remember that on the Day of Resurrection you will have to present yourself to Allah.

Allah will say to you: "Mahmoud, the Angels have told me that in your time in your country you killed even 16 year old girls in a way that would make an animal haram if you were to do so."

Mahmoud you will have to say: "The Angels never lie."

Allah will say to you: "Mahmoud, the Angels say there were guests in your house and you bound them and held them hostage."

Mahmoud you will have to say: "The Angels never lie."

Allah will say to you: "Mahmoud, the Angels you have ordered your soldiers to equip missiles with weapons that will kill women and children who were not in combat with you, even though the Prophet (PBUH) stated that women should not be killed in battle."

Mahmoud you will have to say: "The Angels never lie."

Allah will then say: "Begone from my sight and go to the place where Yazid is with Satan for all eternity. For you known not the message of the Prophet (PBUH)"

Remember Mahmoud there will be a day of reckoning before Allah.

103 Tumulus11  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:40:13pm

'AHMADINEJAD: You are representing a media and you’re a reporter. The American nation is made up of 300 million people. There are different points of view over there.'

. At this point Mr. Ahmadinejad winked broadly into the camera, tapped three times on his wristwatch, and drew a forefinger across his throat.

104 thanos  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:40:21pm

No Disney land either Dinnerjacket.

105 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:40:50pm

Chilling OT:

Soviet plan for WW3 nuclear attack unearthed

Chilling Soviet plans to launch massive nuclear strikes in Europe followed by a ground offensive in Germany and southern France have been unearthed by a Nato historian.

According to scenarios drafted in 1964, Warsaw Pact forces planned to use 131 tactical nuclear missiles and bombs to sideline NATO armaments and destroy Western Europe’s political and communications centres, in the event of an “imperialist” strike.

In an alarming insight into the “Doctor Strangelove” mindset of Soviet strategists, the Czechoslovak People’s Army, CSLA, was then expected to immediately march over deadly radioactive landscape and invade Nuremburg, Stuttgart and Munich, then bastions of West Germany.

On the ninth day the troops would take Lyon, south eastern France.

Soviet reinforcements would then continue the offensive towards the Pyrenees in the west.

Historian Petr Lunak from NATO’s information office in Brussels, found the 17-page Warsaw Pact plan while sifting through declassified communist-era documents in Prague’s military archives.

“Russians outlined the general (war) plan, while the (leaders of) individual Warsaw Pact armies prepared precise military blueprints, with details on front lines, deployment of troops and arms,” said Mr Lunak.

The text, written in Russian and entitled CSLA Plan of Action for a War Period, was signed by the Czech defence minister of the time and carried president Antonin Novotny’s stamp of approval.

According to Mr Lunak, the plan was still an option until 1986, three years before the fall of the Berlin Wall.

It was shelved by Vaclav Havel in 1990 when he was elected Czech president.

106 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:41:53pm
107 gunner  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:42:26pm

how about one of those good old fashion traffic jams from hell in NYC. then he'd be stuck for several hours and unable to go anywhere. with a little help from the NYPD he could be funneled in endless circles away from both GZ and the UN-die building.

then leave his motorcade stranded in the Bronx somewhere and walk away from it.

108 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:43:46pm
109 So?  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:45:36pm

Ahmadinejad is a smart dumbass. Look at all the publicity he's gotten with this stunt. The little worm is a mastermind at PR. The world's media falls for it all the time. What's been debated on talk radio, the net, etc...over the past 48 hours...Dinnerjacket, Dinnerjacket, Dinnerjacket.

You know he's scoring billions of points with wanna be suicide bombers, martyrs and terrorists. He keeps showing these Islamo nazis how DUMB western media is. He did it with his Holocaust art contest, exhibition, threats against Israel, etc. etc. etc. Now he's got 60 minutes shoving a mic up his ass.

DEAR WORLD: THE MAN HAS YOU BY THE BALLS AND YOU FALL FOR HIS BS TIME AND TIME AGAIN.

110 southernborn  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:47:34pm

That proves it don't it? Straight from the lips of the man who wants to kill all jews and all of the west: AHMADINEJAD: You are representing a media and you’re a reporter. The American nation is made up of 300 million people. There are different points of view over there.

kos enables the enemy. Huppofluff enables the enemy. all the moonbats enable the enemy.Causing the enemy to keep murdering our troops. bastards.

111 hsmomof2  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:48:03pm
AHMADINEJAD: You are representing a media and you’re a reporter. The American nation is made up of 300 million people. There are different points of view over there.

Hey Kos, the mothership is calling!

112 thanos  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:48:37pm

re: #105 NJDhockeyfan

Chilling OT:

Soviet plan for WW3 nuclear attack unearthed

Chilling Soviet plans to launch massive nuclear strikes in Europe followed by a ground offensive in Germany and southern France have been unearthed by a Nato historian.

According to scenarios drafted in 1964, Warsaw Pact forces planned to use 131 tactical nuclear missiles and bombs to sideline NATO armaments and destroy Western Europe’s political and communications centres, in the event of an “imperialist” strike.

In an alarming insight into the “Doctor Strangelove” mindset of Soviet strategists, the Czechoslovak People’s Army, CSLA, was then expected to immediately march over deadly radioactive landscape and invade Nuremburg, Stuttgart and Munich, then bastions of West Germany.

On the ninth day the troops would take Lyon, south eastern France.

Soviet reinforcements would then continue the offensive towards the Pyrenees in the west.

Historian Petr Lunak from NATO’s information office in Brussels, found the 17-page Warsaw Pact plan while sifting through declassified communist-era documents in Prague’s military archives.

“Russians outlined the general (war) plan, while the (leaders of) individual Warsaw Pact armies prepared precise military blueprints, with details on front lines, deployment of troops and arms,” said Mr Lunak.

The text, written in Russian and entitled CSLA Plan of Action for a War Period, was signed by the Czech defence minister of the time and carried president Antonin Novotny’s stamp of approval.

According to Mr Lunak, the plan was still an option until 1986, three years before the fall of the Berlin Wall.

It was shelved by Vaclav Havel in 1990 when he was elected Czech president.

And the reason it was shelved? Missiles in Europe and Star Wars.
Thanks again President Reagan.

113 Yogurt  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:48:45pm

I'm sure FDNY would love to provide "security" for him :)

114 Sifty  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:48:56pm

re: #105 NJDhockeyfan

The only surprise to me in this report is that the French were expected to hold out that long before surrendering.

115 Beobachter  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:48:57pm

re: #13 Perry

I don't believe him. I guess I'll just stay mad until he's gone back home. Why is he being allowed to come anyway? Nazi-sympathizing, terrorist, s-o-b.

I don't mean to throw a tantrum and stir the pot, but I do not believe the man.

I guess we'll need to do a little seething, won't we? May then they'll get the drift.

116 daughter of patriots  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:48:59pm

re: #106 MandyManners

Rubber ducky you're the one.

You can't see my bum! Cheeky fellow! (Sorry Mike Myer's bathtub SNL skit on the brain!)

117 Farang Kheemao  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:49:18pm

PELLEY: But the American people, sir, believe that your country is a terrorist nation, exporting terrorism in the world. You must have known that visiting the World Trade Center site would infuriate many Americans.

AHMADINEJAD: Well, I’m amazed. How can you speak for the whole of the American nation?

PELLEY: Well, the American nation—


AHMADINEJAD: You are representing a media and you’re a reporter. The American nation is made up of 300 million people. There are different points of view over there.

Yes, and those different points of view come from the Nutroots and Moonbats!

118 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:49:20pm

I just checked you tube. No one has posted this yet.

You might find the interviews that are there hard to take. He says that Israel is weak and doomed.

119 gunner  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:49:29pm

108 ploome hineni

even leave him outside of yankee or shea stadium during a game.

120 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:49:35pm

What was 60 Minutes doing with such immediate access??

121 gedalia  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:50:17pm

There are many neighborhhoods, particularly Brooklyn, in NY I wouldn't advise him to visit, much less invade.

I do remember Khobar, Beirut aand the embassy in Tehran ( where he was a kidnapper) . We should arrest him. There is no worry that it will start a war as there is one already.

122 Sifty  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:50:44pm

re: #120 Eric Cartman's Conscience

We have got to infiltrate a Lizard into 60 Minutes. They get sooo close to all the killers.

123 l'omega[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:50:53pm
124 bulwrk  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:51:28pm

re: #105 NJDhockeyfan

NATO had similar plans I would be more shocked to find out the Russians had no such scenarios in their war planning during the cold war period.

125 So?  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:51:37pm

re: #120 Eric Cartman's Conscience

What was 60 Minutes doing with such immediate access??

Maybe it was their idea in the first place to have him visit Ground Zero and then give them an exclusive live (deleted) interview.

126 livefreeor die  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:52:30pm

I like how it's presented as it's his decision as to whether he'll visit Ground Zero or not. I think he'll be surprised at how many walls of people will be there to stop him.

127 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:52:57pm

The mullahs in Iran have been empowered since the peanut let khomeni back in to overthrow the shah!

128 jamgarr  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:53:33pm

re: #41 Eowyn2

Reminds me of Snape in the Potter books.

I guess you haven't read the last book.

129 Tenacious  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:53:54pm

PELLEY: Well NBC studios are in N.Y., would you like to come visit there? We'll hire security for you.

DINNER JACKET: No kidding? I'd love to. Will David Gregory be there?

PELLEY: I can't speak for Dave any more than I can speak for 300 million Americans!

DINNER JACKET: Ahhh, see? You're learning.

PELLEY: But why Dave?

DINNER JACKET: I have some questions for Mr. David Gregory, in him Allah be praised.

PELLEY: You have questions for him? Usually he is the one asking the questons.

DINNER JACKET: Well I know that, douchebag, but I have some more questions for him to ask Bush. Mr. David Gregory is one of our strongest allies in our war against your country. . .

130 Sifty  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:54:01pm

re: #123 l'omega

ahhh. The "Bush squandered all the goodwill" card is played.

Refraining from bashing Israel and the United States has been this evil lawn gnome's MO so far. I'm sure he would be respectful at the Twin Towers.

/need I?

131 southernborn  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:54:33pm

#123 1omega

HUH HUH HUH? BULL SHIT!

132 Joshua (not a hamster) Scholar  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:54:34pm

By the way, when Amadinejad says that there are different views in the United States you should consider that he says

that Israel will be destroyed because it is "has not got a united public and all other neighboring countries are against it, it can not continue its life." He does not value diversity of opinion.

133 SunCat  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:54:44pm

Because you held Americans hostage, Mahmoud.

134 Meremortal  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:54:51pm

Uhhh, I hate to have to tell you all this but...read on

"Iranian president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad requested to visit Ground Zero during an upcoming trip to New York. That request was rejected Wednesday. But a source tells Eyewitness News that the decision may not stop him.
A law enforcement source says the Iranian mission to the United Nations has informed the Secret Service that the Iranian president intends to visit Ground Zero Monday at 10 a.m.
The source says regardless of the NYPD's rejection of the request for a Ground Zero tour, Iran's president and his entourage will be accompanied by a Secret Service protective detail, a detail provided to all heads of state when they visit the United States."

[Link: abclocal.go.com...]

135 Tenacious  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:55:06pm

Ooops. . .OK so 60 minutes isn't on NBC. Still. . .pick your reporter, fill in the blanks.

136 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:55:11pm

re: #105 NJDhockeyfan

On the ninth day the troops would take Lyon, south eastern France.

Take Lyon on the ninth day?

Hell they can have in on the 1st day along with the rest of Fwance, all Putin need do is ask.

Allo Zarko?
Oui.
You qives - zurrender?
Oui.

End of war.

See? A happy ending.

137 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:56:13pm

#122 Sifty

There's an idea - the lizard fund. It works like the ACLU or moveon.org where people are privately funded to free themselves to undermine certain government institutions. It's obviously been done well by leftists at the state dept., the pentagon, the NEA, the attorney general's office and elsewhere. I have a long, 13 year-old pony tail. I'm ready for recruitment right now.

138 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:56:17pm

The question is why?

The answer: Imad Mugniyeh

Imad Mugniyeh is the most capable terrorist in the world.

As this report by the Claremont Institute makes abundantly clear, with regard to 911, Iran may not be guilty but they are far from innocent. The Claremont report calls for a closer look at Iran's relationship with al Qaeda and Mugniyeh's personal involvement with 911. If Mugniyeh was involved in 911, he did so on Iran's direct orders.

The fact that Claremont is able to show Mugniyeh in contact with Bin Laden in the early 90s in Sudan and sharing the same flights as 911 plotters indicates there is definitely smoke.

So why was Ahmadinejad wanting to see ground zero? Because he wanted to breath in the power of Terrorislam (and this is exactly the right word for it). Just as the Nazis would psyche themselves up with torchlit parades at Nuremburg, Ahmadinejad wanted to revel in his evil and piss on the memory of our dead- right in front of our faces.

Either he will kill us or we will kill him; but with the like of him, it is 100% one or the other. George Bush, wherever you are, save the world and kill this barbarian before he kills us all.

139 arcatan  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:56:18pm

Actually Pelley was right - the American people think Iran is a terrorist state ... anyone living here who doesn't believe that isn't really American (in anything more than superficial demographic characterization).

These Leftist Globalists and pseudo-Marxists aren't American by choice by by unfortunate accident.

140 livefreeor die  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:56:21pm

re: #123 l'omega

So now Bush made Iran evil? Iran knew we wouldn't accept their help and people don't "spontaneously" demonstrate in the streets there unless so ordered to by the government. It was an empty publicity stunt.

141 ec marm  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:58:37pm

Prior Mahmoud Ahmadinejad quote:

September 11 events were horrible. Killing innocent people is shameful everywhere in the world. Our government condemned the attacks at the time...It is said that you have an extensive intelligence system which is even capable of hunting your opponents outside your borders. 9/11 was not a simple operation. Is it possible that such an operation is designed without the intelligence systems helping with it or being massively infiltrated? This is in fact a reasonable possibility. Why is this being kept secret? Why is it not mentioned who failed in doing his job? Why are the people responsible for the attacks not tried?


The troofers would have been lining up to service the pip squeak.

142 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:59:06pm

@125 SO

You have something there. They've proven their affection for the guy so your suggestion is a real possibility. Something like a reality-documentary show where CBS follows him around New York during these "dangerous times".

143 1redthread  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 2:59:48pm

I don't believe him. He knows that the NYPD can't stop him, because they don't have the final say. Those who have the final say won't say no to him, in the name of diplomacy. He won't need to "insist", he'll just go.

The only way to prevent him is to make sure that there are enough people there to block him.

144 livefreeor die  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:01:09pm

Maybe we should declare Monday "Bring your potbellied pig to Ground Zero Day" in New York.

145 formercorpsman  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:01:46pm

re: #65 g3n3r1c

re: #60 g3n3r1c


re: #55 jones

Countdown 'til some moron writes a "Iran didn't have anything to do with 9/11" piece.

its already on HuffPO

collapse altohone (See profile | I'm a fan of altohone)
Give me a break.

Iran was one of the first nations to condemn the attack on 9/11.
Iran aided American efforts to oust the Taliban from Afghanistan.

Iran is not Al Quaida.
Iran did not attack us on 9/11, and having Ahmedinjad stand with us against those who actually attacked us would be a wise policy to weaken support for Bin Laden.

The neocon goal is to use 9/11 to conflate these conflicts. Endless repetition of their talking points means that to this day 30% of Americans still think Saddam was involved when he wasn't. These new talking points are aimed at convincing Americans to allow another pre-emptive attack on a nation that poses no clear or present danger.

Embracing a visit by Ahmedinjad to ground zero would be a PR coup that divides Muslims into those who support Al Quaida and those who oppose them.

Opposing the visit fuels the herd mentality supported by Bush/Cheney that may well lead to another disastrous war based on lies.

I won't resort to troll responses, or anything like that.

It would seem to me, where we are at with respect to the world stage as it relates to threat potential, and terrorism, Iran beats Bin Laden hands down.

Regardless of whether or not Iran has anything to do with 911, which it was complicit, (free passage, Osama's son, we could name quite a bit here) they are the largest state sponors of terrorism. On top of 911, we still have an issue of retribution for our hostages, our Marines, Col. Higgins, again, this could go on forever.

The analogy as far as weakening the Arab street support for Bin Laden, does not settle in having them divided by the actions of Mahomoud. Sunni and Shiite are not very fond of each other as you well know.

As far as clear and present danger, it is obvious that one of the axis of evil nations re-flagged a ship, found it's way to Syria, and the rest is history.

Judging by your post, and going back to try and refute point by point is at best just stroking my own ego, because you hit all of the talking points for the merit badge.

Why do we bother?

Neocon?

You realize many Democrats have acknowledged Iran, and their nucular ambition is something we are not able to live with?

146 Meremortal  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:01:56pm

re: #143 1redthread

I don't believe him. He knows that the NYPD can't stop him, because they don't have the final say. Those who have the final say won't say no to him, in the name of diplomacy. He won't need to "insist", he'll just go.

The only way to prevent him is to make sure that there are enough people there to block him.

Here's more:
"The word today from the relevant powers that be is that there’s simply nothing they can do — nothing to stop him from entering the country, nothing to restrict his movement when he’s here, and nothing to keep him away from one small spot downtown. It’s an absurd microcosm of American impotence in the face of terror. He might as well drop trou and take a leak into the pit just to prove the point."

147 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:02:45pm
148 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:02:53pm

#134 MM

That info was before the outrage throughout the day and the fact that McCain basically said "try it punk." I had counted McCain out of the race until he suggested "restraining" Imagojihad if the asshole pushed the issue. This touches a nerve not even Bush's incompetance can fail to recognize.

149 Meremortal  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:04:16pm

re: #148 Eric Cartman's Conscience

#134 MM

That info was before the outrage throughout the day and the fact that McCain basically said "try it punk." I had counted McCain out of the race until he suggested "restraining" Imagojihad if the asshole pushed the issue. This touches a nerve not even Bush's incompetance can fail to recognize.


Please see #146. I don't think this is over.

150 BBEV  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:05:15pm

I have a vision in my head it comes from the movie "The 300". when a emissary comes to Sparta looking for Sparta to back down, he is talking to King Leonidas, and after giving his grounds for surrender King Leonidas starts to get mad the emissary tells King Leonidas to choose his word wisely. King Leonidas says "You bring me the heads of the kings you have Defeated and want be to surrender to you, you better choose your works wisely" after that all hell brakes loose and King Leonidas kicks the emissary into a large hole.

Can you just picture GWB meeting Imadinnerjacket at ground zero and kicking him into the hole.

151 Rufus Lee King  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:05:51pm

I hope President Giuliani goes to Ground Zero of Iran's former defense infrastructure and takes a leak on it.

152 livefreeor die  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:06:26pm

Will New York's senators follow McCain's lead and defend Ground Zero? Or will they have a "previous commitment"?

153 Cobra  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:07:47pm

re: #123 l'omega

The only thing that Bush accomplished with this accusation was empowering the Mullahs in Iran.

You must be pretty young. That's to Carter's credit.

154 Mich-again  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:07:58pm

I bet Mahmoud really wants to go visit the Soup Nazi. Maybe Castanza can take him.

155 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:09:13pm

#149 MM

Well, I remain hopeful that someone in New Yrok punks this shitcan in the face. But then, I saw brash, smirking 9/11 truthers run around NYC with impunity last year. Not one firefighter stopped to pop even one in the mouth. Men who lived through 9/11 just sat there while truthers in their black t-shirts ran smiling smack at the entire occasion. When truthers can successfully invade ground zero and no one leaves with a bloody lip, we're no longer a tolerant nation, we're a stupid, lost nation. So, you're probably right. This extra from The Planet of the Apes, Ahmadinejad, probably WILL visit ground zero.

156 chubby vegan  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:09:29pm

I hear Bush is might visit Mecca during Ramadan. Any problems with that?

157 jamgarr  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:09:32pm

re: #154 Mich-again


I bet Mahmoud really wants to go visit the Soup Nazi. Maybe Castanza can take him.

No Ground Zero for you!

158 allah this  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:09:41pm

re: #15 bluegrass boy

intercept his flight and turn him back into fish food...its ridiculous that he is allowed to come here...

Harsh, but I'd say the same for Hitler.

159 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:09:45pm
160 southernborn  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:09:50pm

#150 BBEY
have a vision in my head it comes from the movie "The 300". when a emissary comes to Sparta looking for Sparta to back down, he is talking to King Leonidas, and after giving his grounds for surrender King Leonidas starts to get mad the emissary tells King Leonidas to choose his word wisely. King Leonidas says "You bring me the heads of the kings you have Defeated and want be to surrender to you, you better choose your works wisely" after that all hell brakes loose and King Leonidas kicks the emissary into a large hole.

Can you just picture GWB meeting Imadinnerjacket at ground zero and kicking him into the hole.

What I imagine is George Bush kissing his ass and handing him a suitcase of money

161 BBEV  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:11:55pm

re: #160 southernborn

I don't think so.

162 1redthread  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:13:04pm

re: #146 Meremortal

If he gets there, wonderful photos will be taken of Dinnerjacket looking pensive and serious, later posted everywhere. The English captions will read "Iranian President visits Ground Zero", or some such, and the Arabic captions will be all about him visiting the site where 19 "martyrs for Allah" *spit* struck at the heart of the Great Satan. Can you imagine what a coup this would be for Islamists around the world?

They're already laughing at our "weaknesses", now our pols are giving them another reason.

Like I said, people need to be there to make sure he doesn't get there. It doesn't need to be a full out protest, but wouldn't it be great if thousands of us just blocked his way, standing in the street?

163 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:14:38pm

#160 Southernborn

"What I imagine is George Bush kissing his ass and handing him a suitcase of money"

Yup! Lest we forget - The SAUDI ROYAL FAMILY ALREADY VISITED GROUND ZERO! What did Bush, Rudy, Bloomberg, Hillary, Peter King do to stop it?

(yeah, I know Rudy turned the $20 mil down. He should have put a hit on those assholes)

164 Rufus Lee King  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:15:01pm

re: #160 southernborn

Can you imagine George Bush pledging to take down terrorists and their hosts immediately post 9/11, then taking down the Taliban, the Saddam regime and scaring Khadaffi into surrendering his entire WMD program?

Then cover your eyes.

165 Rain Patriot  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:16:31pm
#150 BBEY
Can you just picture GWB meeting Imadinnerjacket at ground zero and kicking him into the hole.

"This is blasphemy! This is madness!"


"Madness...

THIS

IS

'MERICA!" *KICK*

166 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:16:46pm

Ahmadinejad says he wants to lay a wreath? A wreath for who? The 3,000 dead or the 19 martyrs of Allah.

167 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:16:55pm

re: #147 ploome hineni

islamic diversity is met with decapitation

Ladies and gentlemen, please!@! May I have your attention. We have a clear winner.

Congratulations ploome!

168 BBEV  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:17:34pm

Well if nothing else the vision was a nice one..

169 Meremortal  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:17:51pm

re: #162 1redthread

I'm much too far away, but if I lived in the area, I would be at the site on Monday. There needs to be a solid mass of humanity for blocks around the site, arms locked.

170 1redthread  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:19:57pm

re: #169 Meremortal

It's pretty far for me, too. I would love to be there. If there way any way at all.*sigh*

171 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:20:02pm

#164 Rufus

Can YOU imagine Political Islam having more power now than ever in the history of Islam or Western Civilization AFTER 9/11?

Because it does. It wasn't Ahmadinejad, Zawahiri, Bin-Laden or some Allah-asshole distrubting the most effective "religion of peace" trope. I never heard that shit until Bush and the boys insisted on it over and over and over again.

172 Obsidiandog  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:20:28pm

Scott Pelley IS a sanctimonious ass. These two deserve each other.

173 Meremortal  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:23:01pm

re: #171 Eric Cartman's Conscience

#164 Rufus

Can YOU imagine Political Islam having more power now than ever in the history of Islam or Western Civilization AFTER 9/11?

Because it does. It wasn't Ahmadinejad, Zawahiri, Bin-Laden or some Allah-asshole distrubting the most effective "religion of peace" trope. I never heard that shit until Bush and the boys insisted on it over and over and over again.

OK, point taken. At the same time, who has done more to fight radical Islam than Bush? No other leader has stepped up like he has.

174 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:23:57pm

FDR after Pearl Harbor

"December 7th...a day that will live in infamy...a small group of disaffected Japanese have sullied the peaceful reputation, the generosity, the kind-heartedness that exemplifies the Japanese people. This radical minority of Japanese, most of whom are peace-loving, clear thinking individuals, are attempting to undermine a great people..."


-you get the f-in' point

175 Meremortal  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:26:46pm

Well, duty calls. Later, Lizards.

176 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:28:50pm

#173 MM

He's afraid now to even utter the phrase. He tried it, it met with Arab condemnation and he abandoned the term. Now he's talking about universal healthcare. This guy is a disaster. Not only does Islam have a greater presence in western society, but western socialism does as well. I don't care that the "world hates us." I care that Bush has rendered us basically incapable of making a counter argument against anything. I voted for him twice, for his dad twice, for Dole in '96. And if I CAN'T STAND THE GUY, I can't imagine how hard the hate must be for the haters.

177 Irene NYC  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:29:50pm

I read what Ahmadinejad says in the interview differently from Charles.


AHMADINEJAD: Well, over there, local officials need to make the necessary coordinations. If they can’t do that, I won’t insist.


At no point does he say he won't go. All he admits to is that he won't insist that local officials help him make the arrangements.

Anybody else reading it that way?

178 Charles  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:37:10pm

PLEASE NOTE: the dishonest troll calling itself "l'omega" is now blocked.

179 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:38:51pm
180 opnion  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:39:57pm

Scott Pelley gets high marks for telling him like it is.
The unfortunate part is that the little Iranian worm is right.There are Americans who would not object to him visiting Ground Zero.

181 Rufus Lee King  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:40:21pm

re: #171 Eric Cartman's Conscience

#164 Rufus

Can YOU imagine Political Islam having more power now than ever in the history of Islam or Western Civilization AFTER 9/11?

Because it does. It wasn't Ahmadinejad, Zawahiri, Bin-Laden or some Allah-asshole distrubting the most effective "religion of peace" trope. I never heard that shit until Bush and the boys insisted on it over and over and over again.

Nonsense. Islam is in far more disrepute than it has been in recent times. Middle of the road people now openly talk approvingly of profiling Muslims because it is known to be a society dominated by violent miscreants. We don't have tea parties with mass killers like Arafat or kiss their faces like the Clintons and Carters did. Because they are in disrepute.

And their militant vanguard of Saddam Hussein, the Taliban, Khadaffi and much of Al Qaeda now reside in body bags rather than attack us from their previous diversity-protected pillars of America-loathing correctness.

Bush has sounded offensively apologetic on Islamic culture to more aware ears but he has had to navigate the political realities of power sharing with the most inane, defense-dysfunctional groups of allies and political opposition members imaginable. But he has gotten his way mostly and turned the most putridly anti-war allies into more hawkish, aware allies. And kept the DemoCracks dysfunctional, as always, to achieving their stated despicable goals of surrender to our proven war enemies.

182 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:43:10pm

#181 Rufus the King

I hope you are right. I want to believe you are right. I would not be happier in being wrong.

183 traeh  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:43:34pm

re: #102 Shr_Nfr, you said

...the Prophet (PBUH) stated that women should not be killed in battle...

But the oh-so-pacific Mohammed made exceptions. See this:

[Muhammad] himself provides a precedent during the siege of Ta’if, where he used catapults. The Prophet’s response to the question of killing women and children, which of course catapult missiles would do perforce, was “They [women and children] are from among them [infidels].

And Qur'an Chapter 9, verse 29, is deemed by many Muslims to command aggressive (not just defensive) warfare against non-Muslims:

Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book [Christians and Jews], until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.

And let's not forget another one from the Islamic greatest hits parade:

Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 2, Number 24:
Narrated Ibn 'Umar:
Allah's Apostle said: "I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah's Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform all that, then they save their lives and property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah."

Oh, but the Islamic hit parade is so long, one can refer to so many other wonderfully pacific anti-theocracy statements from the Qur'an and the canonical hadith, one just doesn't know where to begin...Why, with the wonders of the Qur'an and Hadith, how can it possibly be that not all Muslims are saints? The cognitive dissonance of it is so huge that it feels like my head might do this!

Unfortunately, Shr_Nfr, a great many Muslims disagree with you about where Ahmadinejad is going to end up. Many expect for him a cush spot on the finest brocaded couches, ambrosial beverages in golden chalices served up by boy-Adonises for the discerning pederast, and 72 black-eyed virgins beyond Hugh Hefner's wildest dreams.

184 traeh  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:49:11pm

re: #183 traeh

Here's the link that didn't work.

185 Sifty  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:01:38pm

re: #178 Charles

There IS someone up there looking out for us! Thanks Buddy!

186 cosmo  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:21:58pm

re: #120 Eric Cartman's Conscience

What was 60 Minutes doing with such immediate access??

You gotta ask? Hmm...


This is great, though. No Ground Zero. No Columbia "University"...

Here's your Ahmaditineraryijihad:

0850 Get off flight from Tehran
0855 Receive hand-delivered indictment from Mitt Romney
0900 Visit UN - keep mouth shut the entire time
0910 Get on flight to Tehran

187 Crepuscular Prick  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:23:10pm

re: #40 wetfun

He wants to honor the 19, not the fallen, but the hijackers!

He probably wants to lay a wreath for them.

Screw Ahmadinajerkwad.

188 D'kian_  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:30:05pm

Crafty bastasrd. Reporters are incapable of answering questions.

189 traeh  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:30:33pm

re: #186 cosmo

Apparently the Bloomberg story has been revised: the Columbia visit has not been canceled.

190 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:44:30pm

re: #174 Eric Cartman's Conscience

FDR had it quite wrong. If he had any understanding of the militarism that was rampant through Japanese society in the 1920s and 30s he never would have said this with a straight face. That leaves 2 possible alternatives: 1) He was totally ignorant, or 2) He was a pathological liar. I will not draw the conclusion which, but Eleanor was a better man than he was.

I would suggest that you read "The Rape of Nanking" by Chang [Link: www.amazon.com...]

191 abolitionist  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 5:02:11pm

re: #40 wetfun

He wants to honor the 19, not the fallen, but the hijackers!

So I wonder if he has plans to visit the worlds largest outdoor mosque (under construction) near Shanksville PA - known to most of us as the Flight 93 National Memorial.

Announcements
Click Here to lean [SIC] about the September 11, 2007 commemorative events

PLEASE NOTE: This project website is being merged into the permanent websites for the national memorial. Starting in late-September 2007, you will be redirected to the National Park Service website (www.nps.gov/flni) or the website for the Flight 93 National Memorial Fund (www.honorflight93.org)

It's a conspiracy I tell ya, and I'm feeling kinda lean and mean.

192 Shay4l  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 5:04:15pm

I say let him visit wherever he wants in America.

AFTER he lets nuclear experts visit wherever they want in Iran. Just give us the word, Ahmawhackjob.

193 Meremortal  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 5:14:35pm

re: #176 Eric Cartman's Conscience

I was right. I didn't think you would answer directly, as it would undermine your reason to hate a little bit.

194 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 5:59:13pm

re: #183 traeh

Al'Bukhari's Sahih Volume 2, page 274 [147]

3014 - Nafi narrated from Abdullah ABPWH; During sp,e pf tje jp;y battles of The Prophet ABAPBUH a woman was found killed. Allah's Apostle ABAPBUH disapproved the killing of women and children.

Al'Bukhari's Sahih Volume 2, page 275 [148]

3015 - Nafi narrated from Abdullah Ibn Omar ABPWB: During some of the holy battles The Prophet ABAPBUH a woman was found killed. Allah's A[pst;e ABAPBUH forbade killing of women and children

Your reference is to men. Please remember women are chattel as in cattle in Islam. Mo's only son was with Mary the Copt.

---

One should also hope he leaves his Koran behind him in Iran:

Al'Bukhari's Sahih Volume 2, page 268 [129]

2990 - Abdullah Ibn Omar ABPWB reported: Allah's Apostle ABAPBUH forbade the people to travel to a hostile country carrying (copies of) the Holy Qur'an.

195 Shr_Nfr  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 6:02:10pm

Do nore: #194 Shr_Nfr

do not know why 3014 came out mangled. It is of course "some of the holy" I must have phase shifted my fingers one key. sorry bout that.

196 traeh  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 6:14:38pm

re: #194 Shr_Nfr

Your reference is to men.

This reference was not to men:

[Muhammad] himself provides a precedent during the siege of Ta’if, where he used catapults. The Prophet’s response to the question of killing women and children, which of course catapult missiles would do perforce, was “They [women and children] are from among them [infidels].
197 Conga Hands  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 6:57:31pm

Amanutjob can visit the World Trade Center site the day after the Muslim world will allow a herd of pigs permanent free rein of Mecca.

198 code red 21  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 7:33:54pm

This is the one time in my life that I actually wished I lived in the Northeast just so I could be there to block this son of a bitch's access to our holy place. Dammit get the UN out of our country, send it to Haiti as Neil Boortz suggested, so this sort of nonsense doesn't have to be tolerated. This creep shouldn't be allowed to step foot in our country let alone NYC his ass ought to be arrested for holding our citizens captive back in the 70's. G-d bless it I'm am pissed.

199 SpartanWoman  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:27:30pm

re: #165 Rain Patriot

#150 BBEY
Can you just picture GWB meeting Imadinnerjacket at ground zero and kicking him into the hole.

"This is blasphemy! This is madness!"


"Madness...

THIS

IS

'MERICA!" *KICK*


Alas, NYC is not SPARTA.

200 Droplet  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 1:17:28am

I'm surprised Scott Pelley didn't end up at the wrong end of one of those multipurpose cranes over there. lol!

201 Pass The Moonbaticide  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 6:19:14am

Ahmadinejad only wants to visit Ground Zero to mourn the lives of those lost on 9/11.

The hijackers' lives , that is .

Non-Muslims are forbidden entry to Mecca , and some other Islamonazi shrines , as it is considered holy ground to Islam .
Surely GZ is equally holy to the USA and therefore all Muslims should be denied access in like manner

202 sarah  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 7:45:50am

All I have to say is that as soon as he steps foot in the US he should be arrested.


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