the sheer and utter GALL of these people.

I'm not surprised.

This is proof of a police state denying personal freedoms and liberties! These fascists must be impeached!

/

Not suprised anymore

Doesn't surprise me in the least...if Osama Bin Dead's corpse was brought by someone to ground zero, the Koslings/et al would defend it...after all, in their reality, Bush brought the Towers down.

There could be some sort of aviation accident before he arrives here.

here;s another one from Hot Air Headlines...
Stunt or Statesmanship? Ahmandinejad Goes to Ground Zero

Maybe President Ahmandinejad's trip to Ground Zero could provide a first step toward forging a new relationship with Iran. Maybe not. But this is, after all, Ground Zero. To me, there could be no better place for the dialogue to begin.

(And, frankly, if it weren't for President Bush, this dialogue (and many others like it) might have commenced six years ago in the wake of 9/11. But then again I digress...)

Let's not question their patriotism, though. They're only siding with our sworn enemy, after all.

The American nation is made up of 300 million people. There are different points of view over there.

See. "Progressives".

re: #7 Killgore Trout

here;s another one from Hot Air Headlines...
Stunt or Statesmanship? Ahmandinejad Goes to Ground Zero

Maybe President Ahmandinejad's trip to Ground Zero could provide a first step toward forging a new relationship with Iran. Maybe not. But this is, after all, Ground Zero. To me, there could be no better place for the dialogue to begin.

(And, frankly, if it weren't for President Bush, this dialogue (and many others like it) might have commenced six years ago in the wake of 9/11. But then again I digress...)

humph...the only "dialogue" that we need to have with Iran should be delivered via bunker busters

Does anything the Left does really surprise anyone anymore? I may often be shocked, saddened, dismayed, incredulous, disheartened, et al but never surprised. The loathing the Left has for the US and Western civilization in general leaves no room for surprise from these folks.

They are only saddened that Castro isn`t with him.

Idiots.

Lil' Mahmoud's charm offensive reaching out to Oliver Stone once again.

Hey, give the psychopath credit, he knows his audience.

Get 'em while their hot...

Don't Taze me Bro T-Shirts

For the ladies too.

Is it really a ‘good faith’ gesture? Maybe not. Maybe it is just a stunt to make him look good. One thing is for sure...denying him the opportunity doesn’t make us look good.

It's not about looking good it's about looking strong.

their = they're

oy

If dialogue begins, it begins over there, after they are defeated.

This from the other moonbat page:

Moreover, don’t we want Muslim leaders to acknowledge the tragedy of 9/11? Doesn’t that help us? Whatever we think about Ahmadinejad, wouldn’t it be constructive to have a prominent Middle Eastern head of state, particularly one that is hostile to America, publicly acknowledge the horribleness of what happened on 9/11? We are, after all, supposedly engaged in a battle of ideas.

But this is all too complicated for today’s Republican Party. Apparently all that matters is that Ahmadinejad is an “Islamofascist” and therefore it is imperative that he not be allowed anywhere near Ground Zero.

I think we should let him visit, whack him over the head with a shovel, toss him in the next batch of concrete at the WTC. It would be so New Yorkish...

"One the back of the wreath, you will find the number of a Swiss bank account and instructions for Ms. Huffington and Mr. Moulit Maloot the Kos guy. This Post will self destruct in 10 seconds..."

re: #14 JammieWearingFool

Lil' Mahmoud's charm offensive reaching out to Oliver Stone once again.

Hey, give the psychopath credit, he knows his audience.

ManManDinejad's not afraid to use dhimmi liberals to spread his terrorist Islamist agenda.

Stone is a dolt.

Koskidz...
Demonizing Iran

Any Iranian overture towards peace is either ignored or twisted into a source of outrage. A relentless campaign of demonization is underway, meant to lay the groundwork for an attack on a nation that has never attacked ours, a nation that might be willing to forge peaceful relations with the US, if our leaders would only allow it.
...
If our political leadership would only take more interest in the possibilities of peace than war, if they ever made an overture of peace to the nations we decide to call our enemies, or even responded positively when those nations make gestures of peace towards us, the escalation might be defused. One thing I'm sure of, that if the US had responded positively to Ahmadinejad's request to lay his wreath at the WTC site, it might have made things better between the two nations, and it sure couldn't have made them any worse.

But this doesn't seem to be what any of our politicians really wants.
Demonizing Iran is a step up to power, and that seems to be all they care about.

Americans are the war mongers and the Mullahs are men of peace.

re: #21 insanity police

Geeze, I meant: ManManDinejad's MadManDinejad's.

Kind of like that name too.

re: #21 insanity police

ManManDinejad's not afraid to use dhimmi liberals to spread his terrorist Islamist agenda.

Spread? Hell - he's looking for a successful recruiting drive!

Perhaps a group of radical Amish will storm his motorcade and hold him hostage for, oh, 444 days...

The part they don't seem to get it that this nutter won't ever acknowledge it was Islamists that perpetrated this act. He would simple acknowledge that a tragedy happened, and leave it open ended like that.

This allows him to go back and spin things to his liking. Such as, "I have visited Ground Zero in NY. After the visit and much contemplation, I am further convinced it was Bush and his Zionist puppetmasters who perpetrated this event."

That people think it is a good thing, that something good could come from this is simply mind-boggling.

re: #10 Rogue198

Inshallah.

I will not read rantings of brain dead morons.

I wrote charles this morning about this. On CNN website they had one of those non-scientific polls. The result was 38% said let imadinnerjacket visit the site.
- I'm just wondering where the other 6% of the troofers were?

a sad commentary of the left.
-granite

The liberal Booman Tribune writes:
[H]ere this man comes, to make an ostensibly good-faith gesture and to pay respects to our dead. Maybe he wants to help himself understand the magnitude of the tragedy so he can better understand why his country is under such a threat.

He wants to look for "relics" and honor those "brave" "martyrs" who stood up to the Great Satan. He is here to create tragedy, not understand it. Gloating is not the same as paying respects. His nation is under a threat because he, a loose cannon who is hoping for the mahdi, wishes to make nuclear weapons to speed his coming. Couldn't we find where he will be staying and have room service send up a complimentary roast pig each night? Or is that too diplomatic?

Are they out of their fucking minds?

It's a bit of a shame he isn't going to insist on going now, actually. I was going to suggest over at MM's that she try and organise 300 people dressed as Leonidas' famous band to add that little extra bit of cultural flavour to Dinnerjacket's visit. The Iranians do so love to proclaim themselves the successors to the Persian Empire after all. Plus if I remember correctly Iran did level an official protest about the film being anti-muslim. Despite there being no muslims at the time of the Battle of Thermopylae. Cause, y'know, they would have been if they could. Right?

[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]

This must be how they're thinking.

I question the timing.

'Gesture of good-will'?

*headslap*

Are people really this stupid, or are they trying to be 'cool'?

re: #15 Ringo the Gringo

Ain't capitalism grand

re: #22 Killgore Trout

"Any Iranian overture towards peace..."

They've had since 1979 to make said overtures. They have yet to do so...

ARMAGEDDON,
R

I believe before he leaves New York he will visit ground zero. I don't trust our own people to prevent it happening.

re: #8 JammieWearingFool

Let's not question their patriotism, though. They're only siding with our sworn enemy, after all.

He is not our sworrn enemy, we are his.
That is the problem. "We" won't recognize the forces that are working against us until after a 9/11 or 10/12 or 12/7, whatever. He is not a nut. He is a part of the leadership of a government who want to restrict the US influence in the world so as to facilitate the destruction of western society. (eastern too, if it comes to that, but right now the east is positioning itself to take over from the west in funding the destruction of the west.)

re: #30 Granitebill

Koskidz have been spamming online polls for days.

good will my eye!

This was a bad move on the part of those in power (NYPD, Port Authority and other city officials). The Iranian President desired to make a gesture of good-will towards the US and we won’t let him? That sounds like a great way to avoid future conflicts with a growing world power. Who are we to judge his sincerity?

Watch any number of clips from Iran, what do you notice?
"Death to America" is the mantra..
Sincerity?

re: #39 l'omega It takes two to have a dialogue. Dinner jacket has stated his willingness to wipe Israel off the map. Islam=convert or die. What part of what this evil person has said don't you understand?

Who are we to judge his sincerity?

ROFL. Who are we? I'll tell you. We're people who aren't so morally and intellectually confused, that we can see the obvious.

re: #39 l'omega

I respectfully disagree with your premise.
there is a 100% chance he will spin this the way he wants to even before he gets home.
- nothing good can become of this.
-granite

Folks, I think we found out what the end game in all of this was.

re: #39 l'omega

I guess you think that people that should "Death to America" are only pulling a high school prank?

re: #39 l'omega

However, I think that Ahmadinejad visiting Ground Zero could be good, so long as he refrains from declaring the attacks of 9/11 to be a conspiracy by President Bush or the Jews.

Kinda late for that, don't you think?

Prior Mahmoud Ahmadinejad quote:

September 11 events were horrible. Killing innocent people is shameful everywhere in the world. Our government condemned the attacks at the time...It is said that you have an extensive intelligence system which is even capable of hunting your opponents outside your borders. 9/11 was not a simple operation. Is it possible that such an operation is designed without the intelligence systems helping with it or being massively infiltrated? This is in fact a reasonable possibility. Why is this being kept secret? Why is it not mentioned who failed in doing his job? Why are the people responsible for the attacks not tried?

Israel must be wiped off the map.

~ Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

"Who are we to judge his sincerity?"

Who indeed.

re: #39 l'omega

No.
His visit is not to "open his eyes" or embrace dialogue- although he would love to engage the US in a long drawn out pointless dialogue that would allow his bomb makers more time to get ready.

His visit is like that of a single combat warrior who charges through the lines of soldiers and steals a totem from the opposing war chief.

His visit would be coup-counting by walking into our most painful wound and demonstrating that we could not protect it from him personally.

The insanity of that comment from the CNN website is frustrating and stupid. The current government of Iran breached the security walls of the U.S. Embassy in Tehran in 1979 and held Americans hostage for 444 days. If the Iranian President wants to make a "gesture of goodwill" he should start by apologizing for what happened in 1979, prosecuting those who broke international law when they seized the Embassy and paying restitution to the Hostages and their families.

Who are we to judge his sincerity?

Boy, doesn't that just sum it up.

re: #39 l'omega

I don't understand that line of thinking. If you haven't noticed Iran hasn't done a damn thing but cause mayhem for the last 30 years. If not for Russia and the socialist euros and the Chinese supporting them in lieu of their horrible behavior in the name of economics, they would be nothing. They should not have a seat at the UN let alone be able to speak in it or visit the US.

l'omega left basically the same statement on the other thread about dinner jacket. An agent provocatuer?

re: #54 Kevin Shook

If the Iranian President wants to make a "gesture of goodwill" he should start by apologizing for what happened in 1979, prosecuting those who broke international law when they seized the Embassy and paying restitution to the Hostages and their families.

He'd have to prosecute himself...

Who are we to judge his sincerity?

They have absolutely no problem judging any American leaders' sincerity.

Who are we to judge his sincerity?

That was so stupid I think it gave me cancer.

Did ChenZhen get a sock puppet?

Who are we to judge his sincerity?

We are America, were people can voice their opinion.

I don't recall ahmadinejihad mentioning who the wreath he wanted to lay in honor, was for. The 9/11 victims, or the "magnificent 19?"

I have be warning about this...Saudi Arabia has refused to cut interest rates in lockstep with the US Federal Reserve for the first time, signalling that the oil-rich Gulf kingdom is preparing to break the dollar currency peg in a move that risks setting off a stampede out of the dollar across the Middle East.

China threatens 'nuclear option' of dollar sales

This could get very ugly...

.This is a very dangerous situation for the dollar," said Hans Redeker, currency chief at BNP Paribas.

"Saudi Arabia has $800bn (£400bn) in their future generation fund, and the entire region has $3,500bn under management. They face an inflationary threat and do not want to import an interest rate policy set for the recessionary conditions in the United States," he said.

The Saudi central bank said today that it would take "appropriate measures" to halt huge capital inflows into the country, but analysts say this policy is unsustainable and will inevitably lead to the collapse of the dollar peg.

As a close ally of the US, Riyadh has so far tried to stick to the peg, but the link is now destabilising its own economy.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

re: #53 Texas Joel

re: #39 l'omega

His visit would be coup-counting by walking into our most painful wound and demonstrating that we could not protect it from him personally.

nicely put.

McCain gets it right - physically restrain him

re: #46 pingjockey

re: #39 l'omega It takes two to have a dialogue. Dinner jacket has stated his willingness to wipe Israel off the map. Islam=convert or die. What part of what this evil person has said don't you understand?

But he's changed. He wants to be our friend now. He wants to start the dialogue. Sure last week he wanted to kill us all and wipe Israel off the map, but this week he's different. He holds out an olive branch, shall we not take it?

/but inexplicably his olive branch has thorns on it.

re: #39 l'omega

So, unless you are willing to pay for an extremely expensive and painful war with Iran, having Ahmedinijad recognize the tragedy of 9/11 and debate possible solutions to is the only course of action.

With some humility, I will quote the words of my betters, when faced with a decision about an enemy of no lesser threat:

And for the support of this declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.

re: #39 l'omega

Are you gonna cut&paste that shit on every fuckin' thread?

re: #66 David IV of Georgia Take the olive branch and beat him soundly about the head and shoulders.

12er Shi'a who stones homosexuals, kidnaps foreign nationals, hangs rape victims, funds genocidal proxy armies, advocates sharia law, and ceaselessly calls for the destruction of the United States and Israel, among others, for a living...

/let's give him a visa!

re: #39 l'omega

However, I think that Ahmadinejad visiting Ground Zero could be good, so long as he refrains from declaring the attacks of 9/11 to be a conspiracy by President Bush or the Jews. He might even acknowledge that the attacks were committed by the Sunni extremist group Al Qaeda.

Get this man/woman a straight jacket.

Not online yet, but on the 6PM news on the ABC news channel, a reporter was on the Columbia campus interviewing students and staff..she could not find anyone who was the least bit upset re Amhadinadinnerjacket's appearance there..to a man? 'Freedom of speech', both sides of the story', yada, yada, yada.

And the tickets are all sold out.

Wish we could get the money back that we payed for our oldest son's Masters degree.

The only reason he would want to go there is to offer thanks and tribute to the terrorist scum that brought the towers down. It upsets me that NYC and Mr. Bloomberg even considered allowing him access to the site. Then again, it is the NYC Council and Mr. Bloomberg.

The Iranian President desired to make a gesture of good-will towards the US and we won’t let him?

Know what a better gesture would be? Quit killing our men and preaching our destruction.

That sounds like a great way to avoid future conflicts with a growing world power.

Sure, give them everything they want and there is no conflict.

Who are we to judge his sincerity?

His victims.

Fucking scum

Don't bother with l'omega.

Check his history. Drops a "post" and then leaves, to let others enjoy the smell.

Surely at least one Iranian citizen died in the WTC. It is a measure of what ninnies Ahmadinejad and his gang are that nobody cited Iranian victims as a reason to lay a wreath. If he had, no one could have refused him.

wonder if code pink will be there nekked to pose for pictures with him.talk about ruining his arse at home

re: #71 ciaospirit

Ironically it registered on 9/11/07.

US Military Says Iranian Officer Under Arrest in Northern Iraq

The U.S. military says it has arrested an Iranian officer accused of smuggling powerful roadside bombs into Iraq for Tehran's elite Quds force. The military says the Iranian man was seized from a hotel in the Kurdish city of Sulaimaniyah.
...
In Washington, Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman said the man arrested Thursday is the seventh Iranian Quds Force operative that U.S. forces have detained in Iraq. He said Tehran is ignoring repeated U.S. requests to stop such activities.

Why he's even allowed into the country is beyond me.

re: #70 kulthur

12er Shi'a who stones homosexuals, kidnaps foreign nationals, hangs rape victims, funds genocidal proxy armies, advocates sharia law, and ceaselessly calls for the destruction of the United States and Israel, among others, for a living...

/let's give him a visa!

...and the liberals flock to defend his visit to ground zero, support his proxy war in Iraq by advocating cut and run and wonder why Iran shouldn't be allowed nukes?

re: #68 Cobra

Hey is that a kosling or a pigling?

re: #23 insanity police

re: #21 insanity police

Geeze, I meant: ManManDinejad's MadManDinejad's.

Kind of like that name too.

i prefer i'madinnerjacket or i'manattentionwhore

Generally speaking, people who do not take religion seriously themselves are incapable of taking religious fanatics seriously. Some of the journalists and bloggers in question cannot imagine radical commitment to anything. They project their own emotion-guided litmus(how do I feel? vs. what do I think?) on terrorists. They assume these fanatics who are literally dying to destroy our way of life will have a change of heart if we can just make tears come to their eyes or get them to laugh or otherwise "feel better about us". For someone to say that the apocalypse-obsessed Ahmadinejad's visit to Ground Zero could "forge a new relationship with Iran... "? That tells you all you need to know about not taking religion--and in this case a diabolical religious fanaticism--seriously.

"Iran was very quick to offer its condolences after 9/11, and there were reportedly spontaneous street demonstrations against the attacks. Iran went even further by offering to support the US war in Afghanistan by re-patraiting grounded pilots. It was not until February 2002 that Iran returned to its hostile stance towards the United States."

You have got to be kidding me.

Iran had "nothing" to do with 9/11 or al-Q?

And the excuse of the old Shia vs. Sunni schism will not fly here.

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[Link: www.cnn.com...]

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

[Link: www.time.com...]

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

[Link: www.meforum.org...]

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LITTLE
EARTHQUAKES,
R

re: #75 Geepers

the smell stink

Fixed it for you, Geeps.

re: #16 bulwrk

No, it's about preventing an obscenity! I really don't care how it looks; I can't even begin to care.

I wonder if he is trying to find the 12th immam there?

This man and the regime is Tehran is nothing but unadulterated evil. Anyone who would even consider any kind of duologue with them is morally deficient. People love to compare Bush to Hitler, but the regime in Iran has round up 100's of thousands (jailing and/or killing them) for their opposition to the regime. Iranian students have been killed at the hands of their government for protesting. And you think he should be able to go to Ground Zero to pay his condolences? We all saw the spontaneous condolences from the Iranian people after 9/11. And Bush made it very clear that the Iranian people were not a part of the Axis of Evil, but its government was. Anyone who would want to allow this nut job anywhere in the US to do anything, other than go to the UN, needs really examine their soul.

Let the mad man go to Ground Zero. Just tell me exactly when and where he will be. I have a gift for him. Its a helicopter ride to 1100 ft. Then he gets to view New York from there to the ground like some of the poor souls that jumped on 9/11.

The shame of it is that we lost an opportunity to encourage every single New Yorker to show up with bacon, ham, pork chops, pig's feet and every other bit of Porky Pig to hurl at the piece of shit while presenting him with the finalists in a larger than life Momo cartoon contest.

re: #83 southernborn

re: #68 Cobra

Hey is that a kosling or a pigling?

*Shrugs*
I dunno, but Geeps was right. It took a shit and ran off.

re: #39 l'omega

I'm thinking you're playing some kind of game here.

This is what you posted in another thread, shortly before it was deleted:

So given that Muslim people are incapable of living among themselves in peace and prosperity, and those that live in the Western diaspora often get caught up in Jihad, why do we advocate spending hundreds of billions of dollars, and thousands of young promising lives, to give Muslims opportunities they will inevitably squander? I believe the answer is simple. We don't give them an opportunity. The next time a Muslim people threaten us, we kill them, all them, with the weapons we use best, long range, civilian saturation bombing. No Muslims, No Problem.

That's right. From "kill 'em all!" to "dialogue is a precondition to the resolution of the clash of civilisations."

What's that smell?

re: #39 l'omega

L'omega,

You're pretty optimistic about old "I'manutjob" suddenly changing his spots. And why do we need to "debate possible solutions" to 9/11 with him? I think we know how to handle what led to Ground Zero (and sitting around singing "Kumbyah" -or however you spell the name of that stupid song- with people constantly calling for "Death to America" is not one of them.)

I can't believe it's only six years since 9/11 and we're having to defend not letting the leader of a terrorist state go to Ground Zero.

re: #75 Geepers So we have a "chicken" troll? Comes in and throws illogic bombs and runs.

CNN besides advocating for this terrorist has also been stoking the fires for the "Jena 6".

Not having learnt its lesson from the Duke LaCrosse sham, it and the MSM have been relentlessly promoting this latest incident with the usual angle of "Afro-Americans as victims of the evil and racist American justice system" and "whites being ignorant of their own racism".

Tonight they plan on airing a report propaganda entitled, get this: Judgement at Jena".

re: #74 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

The Iranian President desired to make a gesture of good-will towards the US and we won’t let him?

Know what a better gesture would be? Quit killing our men and preaching our destruction.

Now that would be a good gesture.
I'd advise against holding one's breath in anticipation.

Chutzpah with a capital Ch ...

re: #95 Charles

re: #39 l'omega

I'm thinking you're playing some kind of game here.

This is what you posted in another thread, shortly before it was deleted:

So given that Muslim people are incapable of living among themselves in peace and prosperity, and those that live in the Western diaspora often get caught up in Jihad, why do we advocate spending hundreds of billions of dollars, and thousands of young promising lives, to give Muslims opportunities they will inevitably squander? I believe the answer is simple. We don't give them an opportunity. The next time a Muslim people threaten us, we kill them, all them, with the weapons we use best, long range, civilian saturation bombing. No Muslims, No Problem.

That's right. From "kill 'em all!" to "dialogue is a precondition to the resolution of the clash of civilisations."

What's that smell?

Charles,
IMHO
the "civilian saturation bombing" phrase right there qualifies this person for a banning

no LGF'r would use that phrase
way too moonbatty
my advice, ban

re: #95 Charles Smells like gamy troll buttocks!

#95 Charles

re: #39 l'omega

I'm thinking you're playing some kind of game here.

This is what you posted in another thread, shortly before it was deleted:

So given that Muslim people are incapable of living among themselves in peace and prosperity, and those that live in the Western diaspora often get caught up in Jihad, why do we advocate spending hundreds of billions of dollars, and thousands of young promising lives, to give Muslims opportunities they will inevitably squander? I believe the answer is simple. We don't give them an opportunity. The next time a Muslim people threaten us, we kill them, all them, with the weapons we use best, long range, civilian saturation bombing. No Muslims, No Problem.

That's right. From "kill 'em all!" to "dialogue is a precondition to the resolution of the clash of civilisations."

What's that smell?

It is either chicken kosling or camel they smell the same

If I lived in New York and Ahmadinejad were to visit Ground Zero, I'd be there with a big sign reading:

DID YOU SAY
"DEATH TO AMERICA!" ?
I hope and pray, if he shows up there, that he is met with the biggest demonstration of opposition to him and his regime. Bigger than any Code Pink-O/KOS/DU/ANSWER circus we've seen.

Power to the Correct People!

The Iranian President wanted to lay a wreath in memory of the hijackers. Some Dem's and idiots think it's a good idea. Not surprising.

re: #95 Charles

Charles asked " What's that smell?"

Troll Provacateur ?

re: #103 pingjockey

re: #95 Charles Smells like gamy troll buttocks!

i took this as Charles smells like gamy troll buttocks

Does not smell lizzardy.re: #95 Charles

re: #80 buzzsawmonkey

re: #72 NY Nana

As I noted in an earlier thread, universities--and particularly Big Name universities, and their students--are whores for Big Name speakers.

If Hitler, Stalin, or Torquemada were to come back from the dead for One Night Only, you'd get the same reaction.

Well maybe not Hitler, in their warped minds him and Bush are moral equivalents.

Charles, do you think you could keep the door closed next Sept. 11?

OT:
Iran blames Israel for Lebanese Murder
[Link: www.jpost.com...]

re: #80 buzzsawmonkey

Buzz

You are right...may G-d help our kids and grandkids. Some legacy we leave. I remember when a number of these universities were prestigious. Now? They have become an incubator for the dead heads of the future...

Rudy taps the Iron Lady's brain trust...
Thatcher Advisors Join Team Rudy

The Rudy Giuliani Presidential Committee announced today that former advisors to former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher Robert Conquest and Dr. Nile Gardiner are supporting Mayor Giuliani for President. Conquest will serve as a member of the Senior Foreign Policy Advisory Board and Gardiner, the Director of the Margaret Thatcher Center for Freedom at the Heritage Foundation, will serve as a member of the European Advisory Board.
...
The other new addition to the Mayor’s foreign policy team is National Review Senior Editor David Pryce-Jones, who joins as a Senior Foreign Policy Advisor.

There are bios of the new additions for those who're interested.

That one is so obviously trolling that it's now blocked.

re: #39 l'omega

Oh boy - So much chum, so few minutes...

having Ahmedinijad recognize the tragedy of 9/11 and debate possible solutions to is the only course of action.

Debate? DEBATE? You don't need to make shit up. AssHatMyBad ain't capable and furthermore desires no debate. He's looking to embolden our enemies. Need I recount the number of casualties in Iraq directly attributable to this guy's government? Have you not been listening? Reading?

(rolls eyes, mumbles to self and reminds self to apply filtering lens to eyes when viewing comments like the one above)...

Who are we to judge his sincerity?

We are the targets of islamofascism- that's who.

re: #108 lefty201

re: #103 pingjockey

re: #95 Charles Smells like gamy troll buttocks!

i took this as Charles smells like gamy troll buttocks

why are yall pickin on charles?...

pingjockey (#97),

So we have a "chicken" troll? Comes in and throws illogic bombs and runs.

Looks that way.

#39, l'omega. Your try-out for the Dry Pool Diving Team has commenced. You are up. Good luck shitbird.

The whole "saturation bombing" or "carpet-bombing" phrase smacks of uneducated moonbattery.

Neither tactic has been used since WW2. It was invented by the Germans, and "perfected" by the British and Americans.

The Rolling Thunder, Arc light, and Linebacker bombing raids on North Vietnam were NOT "saturation" or "carpet" in intent or execution.

ANOTHER
PERFECT
DAY,
R

Charles - You chose well.

re: #115 Charles

Thank you, Charles.

alls well that ends well

troll gone

clean LGF smell wafting about the cubicles now

I just missed a banning? Darn!

Splat!

re: #127 Sharmuta

I just missed a banning? Darn!

hey, don't blame me

I voted against it before I voted for it

re: #114 Killgore Trout

Whoo-hoo!

Robert Conquest! Oh, it just doesn't get any better than this!

Go, Rudy!

re: #122 Render

The whole "saturation bombing" or "carpet-bombing" phrase smacks of uneducated moonbattery.

Neither tactic has been used since WW2. It was invented by the Germans, and "perfected" by the British and Americans.

The Rolling Thunder, Arc light, and Linebacker bombing raids on North Vietnam were NOT "saturation" or "carpet" in intent or execution.

ANOTHER
PERFECT
DAY,
R

Whatever. That kind of talk means nothing and has no place here.

Mark Levin is saying that Dinnerjacket won't speak at Columbia now because Columbia can't agree on the format of the presentation. Hurrah.

re: #127 Sharmuta

I just missed a banning? Darn!

You didn't miss much.

Wasn't even a fun troll.

re: #121 buzzsawmonkey

If he were truly the moral equivalent of Hitler, they would would be trampling themselves to get him to speak--whether from admiration of his strength and they'd be dead.

The Iranian President desired to make a gesture of good-will towards the US and we won’t let him?

It's not like they had 28 years to make a goodwill gesture or anything. It's not like they seized our embassy in Tehran and held everyone hostage for 444 day. It's not like they used their proxies in Lebanon to drive a truck bomb into the Marine barracks or kidnapped and killed American citicizens over there. It's not as though they're providing arms and training to kill American soldiers in Iraq.

A little late in the game for 'goodwill' gestures.

re: #98 ted

CNN besides advocating for this terrorist has also been stoking the fires for the "Jena 6".

Not having learnt its lesson from the Duke LaCrosse sham, it and the MSM have been relentlessly promoting this latest incident with the usual angle of "Afro-Americans as victims of the evil and racist American justice system" and "whites being ignorant of their own racism".

Tonight they plan on airing a report propaganda entitled, get this: Judgement at Jena".

I was wondering what to call beating a stranger to a pulp because you're mad at someone else.

OldLineTexan

See the following for the Dinnerjacket Columbia U. cancellation --- Speech Cancelled

re: #133 Ringo the Gringo

Wasn't even a fun troll.

IMO- all trolls are sad, sorry little creatures.

Goodwill gesture?
The ghost of Usama Bin Laden gave us the gesture the other day, you remember? Convert or die, I believe it was.

re: #53 Texas Joel

Well put!

re: #132 velsin

There was a disagreement on the Taser voltage to use.

OldLineTexan

re: #130 Dianna

Rudy still has some weaknesses. Gun control and abortion seem to be the biggest problems.
The staff he's putting together couldn't have been better if it was hand picked by Lizards.

re: #95 Charles

That's right. From "kill 'em all!" to "dialogue is a precondition to the resolution of the clash of civilisations."

What's that smell?

The exact word is "moby." A lot of people have been describing l'omega as a "troll," and while "troll" may be correct as the generic category, he is specifically a moby:

moby - An insidious and specialized type of left-wing troll who visits blogs and impersonates a conservative for the purpose of either spreading false rumors intended to sow dissension among conservative voters, or who purposely posts inflammatory and offensive comments for the purpose of discrediting the blog in question. The term is derived from the name of the liberal musician Moby, who famously suggested in February of 2004 that left-wing activists engage in this type of subterfuge:

Problem is, he dropped his moby mask on this thread and -- ooops! -- revealed his agenda.

re: #27 Def Comedy Jihad

Exactly.

re: #110 kham

re: #80 buzzsawmonkey

re: #72 NY Nana

As I noted in an earlier thread, universities--and particularly Big Name universities, and their students--are whores for Big Name speakers.

If Hitler, Stalin, or Torquemada were to come back from the dead for One Night Only, you'd get the same reaction.

Well maybe not Hitler, in their warped minds him and Bush are moral equivalents.

I think it's beyond that now. In their minds, Bush is worse than Hitler, who was simply a misunderstood progressive. After all "Mentwell Adolph" understood the Zionist threat well ahead of them.

After all, if Dinnerjacket can murder-by-crane gay teens, mentally ill 16 year old girls, and his own country's other "miscreants", deep down, he's really a good guy. He's just deprived - probably needs therapy.
/sarc. ? (you decide)

re: #138 velsin

See the following for the Dinnerjacket Columbia U. cancellation --- Speech Cancelled

yeah!

re: #144 zombie

re: #95 Charles

That's right. From "kill 'em all!" to "dialogue is a precondition to the resolution of the clash of civilisations."

What's that smell?

The exact word is "moby." A lot of people have been describing l'omega as a "troll," and while "troll" may be correct as the generic category, he is specifically a moby:

moby - An insidious and specialized type of left-wing troll who visits blogs and impersonates a conservative for the purpose of either spreading false rumors intended to sow dissension among conservative voters, or who purposely posts inflammatory and offensive comments for the purpose of discrediting the blog in question. The term is derived from the name of the liberal musician Moby, who famously suggested in February of 2004 that left-wing activists engage in this type of subterfuge:

Problem is, he dropped his moby mask on this thread and -- ooops! -- revealed his agenda.

so that does not make him a Nazicrat, eh ?

I can see it now on Iranian TV.

President Ahmandinejad laying a wreath in honor of the 9-11 martyrs.

re: #136 OldLineTexan

"I was wondering what to call beating a stranger to a pulp because you're mad at someone else."

Granted, hanging nooses on a tree is pretty disgusting ,but it doesn't give you the right to beat someone almost to death. The MSM makes it like 6 choirboys are in jail.

#138 velson

See the following for the Dinnerjacket Columbia U. cancellation --- Speech Cancelled

wouldnt it be great if it was because of alumini protest? But not likely

I'm not sure who if this has been mentioned, but let me attempt to put this into perspective.

DinnerJacket visiting Ground Zero is comparable to me taking a dump on their moon stone in Mecca.

I don't think this little craphat should be able to do it. No one is asking me though.

re: #108 lefty201Bad grammar.

they consider a good will gesture to be placing an artificial wreath at the site?
i consider a good gesture to be:

- the cessation of Iranian agents killing U.S. Soldiers in Iraq
- the cessation of their nuclear program
- the cessation of EFPs from entering Iraq
- the cessation of supporting Hezbollah and Hamas
- admitting that the Holocaust actually did happen

oh but forget about those...that wreath will make EVERYTHING better...i just know it will
these people live in their heads...they need an education in reality more than anything or were in for trouble

re: #143 Killgore Trout

I would go for Rudy if I didnt have the gun control problem with him.

re: #147 phoenixgirl

I'm pleasantly surprised that Columbia U. president has come to his senses. However, I and any LGF'ers in NY should still go to the rally by the UN on monday to protest Dinnerjacket's incitement to Genocide and warmongering.

re: #138 velsin

C

olumbia University said it canceled a planned speech by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad after failing to reach agreement on the format of his scheduled appearance on Sept. 24.

No doubt the requirement that women sit separately in Burkas proved troublesome to the feminists who never realized that is forced upon Muslim female chattel.

re: #146 daughter of patriots

After all, if Dinnerjacket can murder-by-crane gay teens, mentally ill 16 year old girls, and his own country's other "miscreants", deep down, he's really a good guy. He's just deprived - probably needs therapy.
/sarc. ? (you decide)

Dont forget those infamous "enemies of God" they kill weekly

re: #139 Sharmuta

re: #133 Ringo the Gringo

Wasn't even a fun troll.

IMO- all trolls are sad, sorry little creatures.

Some are wonderfully deranged though.

re: #152 BulgarWheat

I'm not sure who if this has been mentioned, but let me attempt to put this into perspective.

DinnerJacket visiting Ground Zero is comparable to me taking a dump on their moon stone in Mecca.

I don't think this little craphat should be able to do it. No one is asking me though.

perhaps when i am old and in poor health, ready to die, i will make the haj and do what you mention above...oh wait, i'm a girl...perhaps when my husband is old and in poor health, ready to die, i will make him make the haj and do what you mention above.

ACHTUNGMINIJERK

Rhetorical question, but if Ahmadinejad did in fact go to Ground Zero, do you think he'd be able to surpress a little grin?

re: #144 zombie

re: #95 Charles

That's right. From "kill 'em all!" to "dialogue is a precondition to the resolution of the clash of civilisations."

What's that smell?

The exact word is "moby." A lot of people have been describing l'omega as a "troll," and while "troll" may be correct as the generic category, he is specifically a moby:

moby - An insidious and specialized type of left-wing troll who visits blogs and impersonates a conservative for the purpose of either spreading false rumors intended to sow dissension among conservative voters, or who purposely posts inflammatory and offensive comments for the purpose of discrediting the blog in question. The term is derived from the name of the liberal musician Moby, who famously suggested in February of 2004 that left-wing activists engage in this type of subterfuge:

Problem is, he dropped his moby mask on this thread and -- ooops! -- revealed his agenda.

Zombie Nuancing !

The Horror !

there are actually left-wing bloggers who will defend letting Ahmadinejad visit Ground Zero.

Of course there are. Part of the unhinged Left's modus operandi these days is to engage in stringent contrarianism. Therefore -- no matter how sound the arguments -- since those on the Conservative/Right side of the political divide went (rightfully, in my view) ballistic about the prospects of Ahmadinejad visiting Ground Zero, it's predictable that the unhinged Left would oppose that view. Whatever the Cons/Right support/oppose, the Left will erupt with a reactionary, polar opposite view. Simple as that.

LGF Ladies,

I made a promise just 48 hours ago to watch my language. You will have to forgive me for this post...

I have not read anything from above. And forget for a minute this megalomaniac is a sworn enemy of our ally Israel, sponsors terrorism, is actively pursuing obtaining a nuclear bomb of which I am sure he would use, and is indirectly or directly responsible for American soldiers being killed. My beef goes back a ways with this slug.

This SON OF A BITCH assisted in holding American hostages captive for 444 days, blindfolding them and parading them around like scared race horses. If Natalie had anything to do with, he would be arrested when he disembarked the plane and if he resisted I would pistol whip his ass on the tarmac for the world to see. If he was fortunate enough to remain cognizant of his surroundings, I would calf rope him, blindfold him, and literally throw him to the back of a paddy wagon where he would be escorted to the nearest pen to spend the rest of life in solitary confinement. Mahmoud would be listening to Barry Manilow songs and Rosie O'Donnell inspirational tapes for his only enjoyment.

And that's for starters.

re: #155 southernborn

It doesn't bother me at all but I think it's a deal breaker for a lot of people.

ACLU calling emergency meeting in 5..4..3..2..1...

re: #165 goodbye_natalie

/how dare you say rosie o'donnell! or barry manilow!

Achtungminijerk is shocked shocked that Americans don't want him to visit ground zero.

#160 phoenixgirl

Whoever does it better bring the Charmin. They don't get the whole butt-wiping thing over then.

left hand-right hand, who cares. I want some soft tissue.

Europe's version of TP is nothing to write home about either. Ouch!

When it comes to DinnerJacket, this is a good picture to never forget.

re: #165 goodbye_natalie
SOB is not that bad. Had to really restrain myself from using some very colorful metaphors about this little colorful metaphor deleted.

#98, #136

I read a similar article on CNN- right away the use of the word 'justice' set off my BS detector and I wondered 'Did Sharpton or Jackson make their way down there yet?'. It wasn't until the very end of the article that they matter-of-factly made mention that indeed both of them were in the area.

Also kind of glosses over the fact that one of the Jenna 6 had some priors for battery.

re: #132 velsin

Sounds like a CYA excuse. Methinks that Columbia probably got quite an earful over hosting a soapbox for this pig.

re: #166 Killgore Trout

it bother's me, but it is not a deal breaker for me...i only care about electing the best person to win this war. it is a one issue election for me. if he wins the election and wins the war and screws up on the other things...well i'll vote against him in the following election. i want the war won.

re: #169 Atweber

Achtungminijerk is shocked shocked that Americans don't want him to visit ground zero.

He is getting a lesson in reality, Democrats have big mouths and seem like they are in power but the story from the American people is very different.

Who are we to judge his sincerity?

Considering he has an established, irrefutable record as a world class murdering, terrorist sponsoring, douchebag, we can judge his sincerity. We can and we will.

Yes, it really is that simple.

re: #84 lefty201

re: #23 insanity police

re: #21 insanity police

Geeze, I meant: ManManDinejad's MadManDinejad's.

Kind of like that name too.

i prefer i'madinnerjacket or i'manattentionwhore

I also like immamadjihadi

Iranian child abuse...
Child uses Opium in Iran

Who are we to judge his sincerity?

When he says he wants to 'wipe Israel off the map' I'll take him at his word and plan a offensive strike to save my country, thank you very much.

Born Again--agreed except I live near Berkeley and S.F.

re: #150 ted

re: #136 OldLineTexan

"I was wondering what to call beating a stranger to a pulp because you're mad at someone else."

Granted, hanging nooses on a tree is pretty disgusting ,but it doesn't give you the right to beat someone almost to death. The MSM makes it like 6 choirboys are in jail.

Too many reporters and protesters from too far away creating more "martyrs to Southern bigotry," yet have no clue as to the facts. Another manufactured racist song and dance by Al Sharpton (I will not dignify him with "the Rev").
Very small town in rural Louisiana and the media mob will get nowhere near the truth. All that will happen is that any local with an axe to grind will get his/her chance at the mike, and the "two TV truths" will spread farther and farther apart, just like the BDS and non-BDS halves of the USA.
In small towns like this, the truth is known locally, will be gotten at locally, will be dealt with locally. "White Louisianian," whether civilian or local official, does not automatically mean "racist," including the judges and cops, and the media glare on the "Jena 6" will do nothing but distort the verdicts.

re: #32 MandyManners

Yes.

re: #174 Fenway_Nation

There is no way hanging nooses in that tree was acceptable.

But it does not equate to beating an uninvolved person into the hospital.

The punishments should not be equal.

Libs and moonbats - here's an actual race-based hate crime for you. What are you gonna do about it?

OldLineTexan

re: #95 Charles

re: #39 l'omega

I'm thinking you're playing some kind of game here.

This is what you posted in another thread, shortly before it was deleted:

So given that Muslim people are incapable of living among themselves in peace and prosperity, and those that live in the Western diaspora often get caught up in Jihad, why do we advocate spending hundreds of billions of dollars, and thousands of young promising lives, to give Muslims opportunities they will inevitably squander? I believe the answer is simple. We don't give them an opportunity. The next time a Muslim people threaten us, we kill them, all them, with the weapons we use best, long range, civilian saturation bombing. No Muslims, No Problem.

That's right. From "kill 'em all!" to "dialogue is a precondition to the resolution of the clash of civilisations."

What's that smell?

burnt troll

re: #138 velsin

See the following for the Dinnerjacket Columbia U. cancellation --- Speech Cancelled

This is excellent news. Thank you.

Greeting Lizards. As I have informed you my research continues into the phenomenon of brain liquefaction caused by watching Oprah & The View in succession.I intend to have my findings presently.
However after reading comments by koz Kids and other 'Progressives" regarding allowing the little Iranian fellow to visit Ground Zero", I feel I must conduct other research as well. I intend to look into the reasoning process of the species of "Americanis Moonbatis".
It has long been rumored that woolly caterpillars inhabit their frontal lobes. I feel that there is more at work here that can cause one to be such a complete & total ass. I will report back with my findings.

Who are we to judge his sincerity?

I can't speak for some abstract "we," but I can certainly speak for myself -- and as a sentient human being, I reserve the right to judge anyone I choose (based on their behavior and utterances) as it suits my ability to (at the least) interact with other human beings and (at most) survive.

In the case of Ahmadinejad, I've come to the judgemental conclusion that he's a dangerous loon.

re: #189 Josephine

Better click on that link again, Josephine.

#186 OldLineTexan

The problem is the way the law is written in Louisiana. The kids who hung the noose should be punished to the fullest extent of the law.

The kids who beat the living crap out of someone, who happened by also need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

The kid who got the crap beat out of him should sue Reverend Al and Jesse.

AARRRGGHHH! Oh, sorry. Pirate Day was yesterday.
Oh, well. Sentiment is the same.

Ditto Traeh!

The Columbia speech was not cancelled.

re: #150 ted

re: #136 OldLineTexan

"I was wondering what to call beating a stranger to a pulp because you're mad at someone else."

Granted, hanging nooses on a tree is pretty disgusting ,but it doesn't give you the right to beat someone almost to death. The MSM makes it like 6 choirboys are in jail.

Too many reporters and protesters from too far away creating more "martyrs to Southern bigotry," yet have no clue as to the facts. Another manufactured racist song and dance by Al Sharpton (I will not dignify him with "the Rev").
Very small town in rural Louisiana and the media mob will get nowhere near the truth. All that will happen is that any local with an axe to grind will get his/her chance at the mike, and the "two TV truths" will spread farther and farther apart, just like the BDS and non-BDS halves of the USA.
In small towns like this, the truth is known locally, will be gotten at locally, will be dealt with locally. "White Louisianian," whether civilian or local official, does not automatically mean "racist," including the judges and cops, and the media glare on the "Jena 6" will do nothing but distort the verdicts.

Sharpton and Jackson were so delighted this happened because they have not had any attention lately. And there are always those people who will march for anything even when they don't know what the hell they are marching about. I hope they lock up both of these idiots

So as it stands right now, no ground Zero visit or Columbia U speaking engagement for Dinner Jacket?

I'm sure this will be a big blow to the Kos-KKKidz, troofers, Code Pinkos and other assorted lefty freaks who suddenly hold this tenuous and contrived appreciation for freedom of speech (for Dinner Jacket, at least- imagine if Wayne LaPierre wanted to speak @ Columbia).

But look at it this way, Kos KKKidies- no trip to Ground Zero or Columbia is a far more mild rebuke for Ahmadinejad than a dissident in Iran would get from the hands of his government.

/Think Komiteh thugs beating on you or your loved ones with bicycle chains- and from there, that's about as good as it gets.

re: #15 Ringo the Gringo

Get 'em while their hot...

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re: #144 zombie

re: #95 Charles

That's right. From "kill 'em all!" to "dialogue is a precondition to the resolution of the clash of civilisations."

What's that smell?

The exact word is "moby." A lot of people have been describing l'omega as a "troll," and while "troll" may be correct as the generic category, he is specifically a moby:

moby - An insidious and specialized type of left-wing troll who visits blogs and impersonates a conservative for the purpose of either spreading false rumors intended to sow dissension among conservative voters, or who purposely posts inflammatory and offensive comments for the purpose of discrediting the blog in question. The term is derived from the name of the liberal musician Moby, who famously suggested in February of 2004 that left-wing activists engage in this type of subterfuge:

Problem is, he dropped his moby mask on this thread and -- ooops! -- revealed his agenda.

Thanks for explaining that. I just might get a handle on what happened. I do have a question. If they kill enough of us what do we do?

re: #198 Fenway_Nation

no trip to Ground Zero or Columbia is a far more mild rebuke for Ahmadinejad than a dissident in Iran would get from the hands of his government.

Well put.

re: #165 goodbye_natalie

LGF Ladies,

I made a promise just 48 hours ago to watch my language. You will have to forgive me for this post...

I have not read anything from above. And forget for a minute this megalomaniac is a sworn enemy of our ally Israel, sponsors terrorism, is actively pursuing obtaining a nuclear bomb of which I am sure he would use, and is indirectly or directly responsible for American soldiers being killed. My beef goes back a ways with this slug.

This SON OF A BITCH assisted in holding American hostages captive for 444 days, blindfolding them and parading them around like scared race horses. If Natalie had anything to do with, he would be arrested when he disembarked the plane and if he resisted I would pistol whip his ass on the tarmac for the world to see. If he was fortunate enough to remain cognizant of his surroundings, I would calf rope him, blindfold him, and literally throw him to the back of a paddy wagon where he would be escorted to the nearest pen to spend the rest of life in solitary confinement. Mahmoud would be listening to Barry Manilow songs and Rosie O'Donnell inspirational tapes for his only enjoyment.

And that's for starters.

All the more reason for the UN building to be on an island in the Atlantic.

re: #196 traeh

The Columbia speech was not cancelled.

Link?

NOW...Back to the Liberal,Leftist,Socialist,Communist,and Dimokrats. Was there any Rational thinking person, who actually didn't expect them...(Named above)... to want DinnerJacket to visit?...Hell, They most likely would like to give him a Parade down 5th Ave.

re: #98 ted

CNN besides advocating for this terrorist has also been stoking the fires for the "Jena 6".

Not having learnt its lesson from the Duke LaCrosse sham, it and the MSM have been relentlessly promoting this latest incident with the usual angle of "Afro-Americans as victims of the evil and racist American justice system" and "whites being ignorant of their own racism".

Tonight they plan on airing a report propaganda entitled, get this: Judgement at Jena".

This protest in Jena is scary. Al Sharpton and his ilk are trying to take our country backwards 60 years. This is race mongering at it's worst.

re: #203 Cobra

The same link Bloomberg link cited by Charles -- Bloomberg has updated the story.

re: #203 Cobra

Here: [Link: bloomberg.com...]

re: #203 Cobra

re: #196 traeh

The Columbia speech was not cancelled.

Link?

Well shit. Nevermind.

re: #202 lookingup

re: #165 goodbye_natalie

LGF Ladies,

I made a promise just 48 hours ago to watch my language. You will have to forgive me for this post...

I have not read anything from above. And forget for a minute this megalomaniac is a sworn enemy of our ally Israel, sponsors terrorism, is actively pursuing obtaining a nuclear bomb of which I am sure he would use, and is indirectly or directly responsible for American soldiers being killed. My beef goes back a ways with this slug.

This SON OF A BITCH assisted in holding American hostages captive for 444 days, blindfolding them and parading them around like scared race horses. If Natalie had anything to do with, he would be arrested when he disembarked the plane and if he resisted I would pistol whip his ass on the tarmac for the world to see. If he was fortunate enough to remain cognizant of his surroundings, I would calf rope him, blindfold him, and literally throw him to the back of a paddy wagon where he would be escorted to the nearest pen to spend the rest of life in solitary confinement. Mahmoud would be listening to Barry Manilow songs and Rosie O'Donnell inspirational tapes for his only enjoyment.

And that's for starters.

All the more reason for the UN building to be on an island in the Atlantic.

All the more reason for the UN building to be on an island the bottom of the Atlantic.

So what are the odds that Ahmadinejad's calculated actions and the timing of this leak from the "60 Minutes" interview have been specifically designed to keep the NYC protestors guessing - to split them between Ground Zero and Turtle Bay, to avoid a LARGE protest? Bueller? Anyone?

I know If I were he (fain the thought), I'd think it was a darn smart trick.

re: #209 Carolyn

lol

re: #138 velsin

The article has, sadly, been corrected:

Columbia Says Ahmadinejad Appearance Not Canceled (Correct)

re: #212 NY Nana

Sue me! I type slooowly. :)

re: #192 traeh

Welcome to LGF. How's JW?

re: #211 lookingup

Hi lookingup, :)

re: #214 David IV of Georgia

Thanks very much. As far as I know, all is well over there at JW.

re: #165 goodbye_natalie

Tell us how you really feel! :)

The longer I'm here the more things are "lookingup". I love this blog with all the really nice people. Though some have some grumpy names.
Thanks

re: #95 Charles

male bovine excriment i would say

re: #217 HippieforLife

re: #165 goodbye_natalie

Tell us how you really feel! :)

Yeah, and don't sugarcoat it this time. ;)

re: #115 Charles

troll meat unlike hatchling does ot taste good with MINT SAUCE.

197

205

Sharpton and Jackson smell $.

The MSM stung by Duke are now making this a feeding frenzy.

Meanwhile, the huffhos are saying much the same things about how President Bush is sooo much worse than this man.

Are these people really my neighbors? Yikes!

re: #205 HippieforLife

re: #98 ted

CNN besides advocating for this terrorist has also been stoking the fires for the "Jena 6".

Not having learnt its lesson from the Duke LaCrosse sham, it and the MSM have been relentlessly promoting this latest incident with the usual angle of "Afro-Americans as victims of the evil and racist American justice system" and "whites being ignorant of their own racism".

Tonight they plan on airing a report propaganda entitled, get this: Judgement at Jena".

This protest in Jena is scary. Al Sharpton and his ilk are trying to take our country backwards 60 years. This is race mongering at it's worst.

What they are doing is tearing apart a small town like jackals on a gazelle, for their own TV facetime. The people of Jena would have gotten it right. There was already enough coverage. Notice it was stupid high-school kids hanging the nooses, NOT the adults. Where were "the Revs." when adult, white cops in Torrance, California were hanging nooses over the desks of African-American cops? Jena was known as a rather peaceful, rural community. The adults were handling the situation until you showed up. Now the adults are involved in the race-baiting. Thank you, Jesse and Al, for helping set a small town at each others' throats, using the magnifying power of the media, and changing it forever, for the worse.

For the two "Reverends," get the hell out of Lousiana and get real jobs. Judging from your blank resumes of real employment, I'd say start at flipping burgers and work your way up. Or maybe 50-cent or Ludacris will hire you as co-producers. Unlike Bill Cosby, a TRUE African-American role model, you "Reverends" certainly have had no problems with and refused to engage with the NATIONWIDE damage that their gangsta rap has been doing, yet you leech onto Jena.

You've done enough damage by refusing to work on the social cancer in the African-American community for the past two generations. MLK would be so proud of you, Jesse.
If you want to redeem yourself ever, in the eyes of one of the greatest Americans ever (notice I did NOT call MLK an "African"-American), leave Jena now, get with Cosby, and address the REAL problems facing Americans of African descent.

re: #187 traeh

You have posted 25 comments since joining on Sept. 15 2007.
Have any of them been anything except this spam?

What have they been learning in school? If they've been learning anything at all.

A gesture of goodwill would be to stop supplying terrorists and weapons to kill american troops in Iraq. Visiting Ground Zero is an act of mockery at best.

I can't say this enough: Bomb Iran

TODAYS MOONBATS like anyone who hates America

some one should hit them with a the biggest clue bat out there HERR SNICKILEGRUBER hated America too.

and this iranian momzar would have been a happy allie of the nazi just like the grand mufti of jerusalem arafish's uncle.

re: #225 CyanSnowHawk Its been deleted.

re: #192 traeh

re: #189 Josephine

Better click on that link again, Josephine.

Thanks, Traeh. Rats. That is extremely disappointing.

re: #224 U.S. 395

Well put. Al and Jesse need to start being responsible for their actions. The are trying to stir up hate, not "equality".

re: #221 yochanan

PIMF
not

The cry of the LLLooney bird - "Who are we to judge___."

WhO aRe We tO qUeStIon his Death to America decades of homocide on Americans?

re: #228 pingjockey

I noticed. And my mistake, traeh has posted it no more than once in any thread. It just seemed that it was all he was posting.

Americans are the war mongers and the Mullahs are men of peace.

from above. Wanna bet that the writer is a Muhammedan with an agenda?

Spotlight on Israel:

[Link: sheikyermami.com...]

re: #232 easy

The cry of the LLLooney bird - "Who are we to judge___."

Not to mention the hypocrisy of that statement..

re: #122 Render

"The Rolling Thunder, Arc light, and Linebacker bombing raids on North Vietnam were NOT "saturation" or "carpet" in intent or execution."

pardon the late entry, but I was reading the posts of the late "l'omega" (the L must stand for loser) and I had to laugh that this young asshat was obviously unaware that the most infamous "carpet bombing" in US history was ordered by one of the greatest leftist dhimmis of our time...LBJ! Stupid moonbat.

wackademics WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU EXPECT.

I GUESS THEY COULD NOT GET HITLER, STALIN, POL POT OR ARAFISH

oops i forgot they are all dead

re: #230 HippieforLife

re: #224 U.S. 395

Well put. Al and Jesse need to start being responsible for their actions. The are trying to stir up hate, not "equality".

It just makes me so sad to compare the self-esteem and hope raised by leaders like MLK in the '60s, to the social squalor much of the poorer segments of African-Americans have fallen back to. I blame it on
1. Paying unwed mothers to have babies.
2. Lack of father figures.
3. Gangsta rap/BET.
4. Glorification of such in the mass media.
5. De-emphasization and ridicule of education.
6. A total loss of hope among the last couple generations, when to swim against the current of gangsta anger and alienation means ostracization (witness what has been done to Condi Rice, whatever you think of her job performance).
7. The coup de grace: the influx of illegal Hispanic immigrants who are sucking up all the remaining entry jobs because my points 1 through 6 have resulted in a largely (please don't accuse me of broad-brush speech) very poor work ethic among African-American youth.

Many business owners, aware of lax border enforcement, have learned through empirical experience that when hiring for a minimum-wage job, by and large, (and these jobs are filled, by and large, by those with poor educational credentials) he will very often get twice the work out of the illegal Hispanic, with no complaints or backtalk, and the illegal Hispanic will show up for work regularly because he isn't getting a government check to stay home.

Sad but true. My prayer is for a second coming of an MLK - to teach self-respect, education, work-ethic, to erase the idea that "whitey is out to get me so I might as well sling crack." I pray that somehow the current dysfunction in much of our African-American society can be turned around, and that America will gain the wonderful energy of a restored people.

Government programs can only do so much. I pray that God sends some more like MLK, despite his human faults, and that the Jacksons and Sharptons can be tossed into the ashheap of history. (Oh yeah, Jesse, you DID make sure to get MLK's blood all over you that day. I pray for your rebirth, because I am sure that he is looking down at you and so very, very disappointed.)

This is my prayer.

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Let him visit if and only if Iran donates at least $1M to the Jewish Heritage Museum there in New York. (Cash only.)

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re: #187 traeh

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Charles seems to disagree.
#187 [deleted] 9/20/2007 3:57:03 pm PDT

"The Iranian President desired to make a gesture of good-will towards the US and we won’t let him?"

Somehow that reminds me of Neville Chamberlain: "I have here from Herr Hitler a piece of paper..."

re: #203 Cobra

Same Link. Guess the news changes quickly. Per the article, they changed the original report. Looks like Mahmoud will need to be greeted by the LGF NYer parade after all. Looking forward to it. Stinking anti-american Columbia U.

/spit

re: #242 Cobra

Noted.

I do think Madman AMadmanOnJihad should visit Ground Zero.

Just at the proper time.
Like when they're pouring concrete and moving steel around.

Hey, where'd he go? All I see down there is a form full of concrete. I guess he was taken to paradise by the Mahdi.

I guess with that mouthful, I'd better offer some solutions. In no particular order:

1. Declare a state of emergency in the African-American community - aimed especially at inner-city youth, such as Detroit, East St. Louis, Los Angeles, Baltimore, New Orleans.

1. Monitor and ban "Gangsta rap" under statutes dealing with obscenity and contributing to the deliquency of minors. Financially ruin companies that release it and jail the perps with stiff sentences. All this can be done because any semi-serious reader of gthe First Amendment knows that it is not a carte blanche.

2. Identify youths not attending school or failing at school, and do case studies.

3. Depending on the reasons for the failure (usually a toxic mix of all the adversity facing African-American youth), assess potential skill areas with vocational aptitude tests.

4. Provide financial incentives to attend vocational schools so that those who cannot learn by book due to poor education, can learn by demonstration. Many jobs in America - welders, oil-field workers, all sorts of techs, still rely less on the possession of a high-school or college diploma than on the sheer aptitude of an individual to master a task.

5. Many of these jobs are becoming increasingly well paid. Shortages of all sorts in the technical field on the HANDS-ON end are growing. I would trust a high-school dropout with an accredited training program over an MBA to weld my trailer hitch on.

6. Provide financial disincentives to have children out of wedlock. After the first out-of-wedlock birth where it cannot be demonstrated that the parents are making an effort to make it on their own, reduce support for each additional child, and make sure this is WELL KNOWN. Before you say "but, but, you'll starve the children," NO. It won't happen. What will happen is that with the reduced federal support, the extended family and community will be forced to pitch in and help. And they won't be too happy about it. This will provide a psychological disincentive to the mother to keep having children.

7. Greatly increase penalties for selling drugs. Combine this with proactive placement programs for those trained in points 4 and 5.

8. Pray for a group of younger men to help ol' Cosby spread the word. Like James Brown said, "I'm BLACK and I'm proud." Bring a positive spirit to this.

May the can-do spirit of MLK guide it all. Show the young folks the fruits of their labor. Teach them a skill they can master, be proud of, and make a decent living at. The awful backslide since the '60s has been reversed for too long. It's time for fresh thinking. No able-bodied man can feel proud living on a government check. I believe many, many, would leap at the chance to drop out of high school and get government help for VoTech. This is an emergency measure for this current lost generation. But light a candle, and it may grow. Emphasize the education, patch the current holes in the boat, and move forward.

The status quo is unacceptable. And it need not be permanent, once the Sharptons and Jacksons are shoved aside and the Cosbys get the help they need. Then there will be hope. I hope I live to see it.

Just my.. well, more than $0.02. I am just so sad at the current state of affairs. The Jena thing really has brought things to a head for me. Where is the black Jesus to throw the money changers out of the temple?

"Who are we to judge his sincerity?"

Because, after all, that would be, well, judgmental (and there's no greater sin than that in the multiculti handbook).

I'll tell you who: me for one. It's my absolute right to be judgmental. It's one of the things that distinguishes the species, don't you know? I celebrate my ability to be judgmental. And it's my judgment that you're a damned fool.

"He’s a Shiite Persian. Bin Laden is a Sunni Arab. They’re not allies. Never have been. They don’t even have similar goals or aims."

Yeah they do -- the elimination of Western culture, Jews, and Israel, oh and everything not Islamic.

late to the party I am again, but I must say what an idiot this guy is, in mho,, the photo op that ahemahadinajackass is looking for would be brodcast as a ultimate victory for them, proof that the jihad started by 9/11 has come full circle,, the fricken "wreath" he wants to put there is a tribute to the 19 murderers, not the 3000 plus innocent people who died that day,,I simply cannot under stand the people who say things like this (not Thanos,, the other guy)
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If dialogue begins, it begins over there, after they are defeated.

This from the other moonbat page:

Moreover, don’t we want Muslim leaders to acknowledge the tragedy of 9/11? Doesn’t that help us? Whatever we think about Ahmadinejad, wouldn’t it be constructive to have a prominent Middle Eastern head of state, particularly one that is hostile to America, publicly acknowledge the horribleness of what happened on 9/11? We are, after all, supposedly engaged in a battle of ideas.

But this is all too complicated for today’s Republican Party. Apparently all that matters is that Ahmadinejad is an “Islamofascist” and therefore it is imperative that he not be allowed anywhere near Ground Zero.

This was a bad move on the part of those in power (NYPD, Port Authority and other city officials). The Iranian President desired to make a gesture of good-will towards the US and we won’t let him? That sounds like a great way to avoid future conflicts with a growing world power. Who are we to judge his sincerity?

How refreshingly naive.

i so wish I lived in New York right now. I pray that weather the asshole goes there or not,, for the entire time he is in NYC, that every availible New Yorker or for that matter any one who lives in that area would go down to the site, you know, to pay their respects, and everyone could stand hand and hand and make a huge circle around the entire thing,, two and three deep, start now and stay till he leaves,, don't let him SEE IT, and no HE DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE ANYWHERE NEAR GROUND ZERO,, and he surley should not be speaking at one of our "prestigious" universities,, I guess we should re think the "prestigious"
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re: #203 Cobra

Same Link. Guess the news changes quickly. Per the article, they changed the original report. Looks like Mahmoud will need to be greeted by the LGF NYer parade after all. Looking forward to it. Stinking anti-american Columbia U.

/spit

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Moreover, don’t we want Muslim leaders to acknowledge the tragedy of 9/11? Doesn’t that help us? Whatever we think about Ahmadinejad, wouldn’t it be constructive to have a prominent Middle Eastern head of state, particularly one that is hostile to America, publicly acknowledge the horribleness of what happened on 9/11?

Can this person be so stupid as to think that is what this is about - that Imanutjob wants to acknowledge what happened on 9/11? Can I send it some reading material- his exact words, a few videos?

You are correct- he wants to go to celebrate 9/11

This was a bad move on the part of those in power (NYPD, Port Authority and other city officials). The Iranian President desired to make a gesture of good-will towards the US and we won’t let him? That sounds like a great way to avoid future conflicts with a growing world power. Who are we to judge his sincerity?

Somebody bitchslap this weenie!

what is this picture?

re: #171 EC Marm

When it comes to DinnerJacket, this is a good picture to never forget.

re: #5 Rogue198

Doesn't surprise me in the least...if Osama Bin Dead's corpse was brought by someone to ground zero, the Koslings/et al would defend it...after all, in their reality, Bush brought the Towers down.

I'd like to see him cremated, and his ashes secretly (so the moonbats and jihadi-lovers wouldn't come to worship him) scattered at a dog park. Or in a feedlot full of pigs.

re: #19 ointmentfly

I think we should let him visit, whack him over the head with a shovel, toss him in the next batch of concrete at the WTC. It would be so New Yorkish...

Or put him in cement overshoes, and throw him in the East River.

/sleepin' with the fishes

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re: #239 U.S. 395

You are forgetting that Martin Luther King was being cast aside, even before his assassination, by the Marxist and Muslim ideologues whose revolutionary rhetoric and separatism gave rise to 40 years of isolationist ghetto misery, the careers of grievance-mongers of the picayune stature of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, and all the other ills which you describe.

The great success of the Civil Rights Movement--and MLK--was the passage of the Voting Rights Act and the federal commitment to back it up with troops if necessary. The ink on that bill's signature was barely dry before the Marxists and Islamists began leading the black community away from political participation in mainstream society.

If someone of King's stature were to appear today, he would be ignored; Bill Cosby, an exemplar of how far talent can go regardless of color, is reviled and derided by black "leaders" when he says things similar to what you say.

Yes, you make good points. My response is that that was then, and this is now. I think the Marxist/Muslim influence came not as much from a belief in it, as to align themselves with "the other." Sort of like the '60s version of BDS: "If the white man hates Commies, I Looove Commies!" Also, they wanted financial and social parity right away, without recognizing that these things take time. With MLK gone, this also provided evidence that "whitey IS out to get me," feeding the extremist flames.

The difference now, I think, is that enough time has gone by where I think there are fewer African-Americans who genuinely believe that "whitey's out to get me," but more of them without hope because they have no leaders. Down deep, I think many of them know that the Al & Jesse show is a Barnum 7 Bailey act. Easy to wallow in. But the wallowing occurs because they know Cosby is right, but are afraid to follow him, because they see no way to get "there" from "here."

I'm not sure if the analogy fits totally, but many say this about "moderate Muslims" - that there's peer pressure and no leader to stand up and show them the way out. I don't think they want separatism anymore - they want success - and just need hope, and specific direction.

That's why I said Cosby needs young help (because I believe very much that a significant number of the African-American population, if asked anonymously, would say that he is right), and that a government program is needed to provide those missing rungs in the ladder of upward social mobility (whether they are rightly or wrongly perceived to be missing). Some of the best years for learning - the mid-teens, are being wasted as African-American fail and drop out of high school, while instead they could become expert at a well-paying skill.

If a couple more MLK types came along to help old Cosby (he is too old to do it himself), and the government broke the mold of dependency (pun subconsciously intended), I do believe they would be listened to. The African-American community is tired of misery. You have to have read the many stories of Katrina evacuees who DON'T want to return to New Orleans, once they became part of a community that worked. The key is a positive message.

Buzzsawmonkey, I appreciate your take on this topic. Gave me more food for thought!

OK, end of the OT.

Back to parsing Ahmadinejad's slippery multidimensional maneuvers.

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re: #240 Josephine

re: #225 CyanSnowHawk

re: #187 traehYou have posted 25 comments since joining on Sept. 15 2007.
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#187 [deleted] 9/20/2007 3:57:03 pm PDT

Just check out her website. Then decide. She has a long and honorable presence on other blogs concerned with Islamic encroachment.

"10-10" Threatening Postcards Terrorize Marion County, Florida Schools
Clearly the threat involves a date of significance. To who?

The month of Ramadan, the month of fasting, has a special status as the month of religious spirituality and devotion. However, in Muslim tradition it is also perceived as a month of Jihad, a month in which Allah grants military victories to His believers. It was during Ramadan that Muslims triumphed in many battles throughout the history of Jihad for the sake of Allah – among them the battle of Badr in 624, the conquest of Mecca in 630 and of Andalusia in 711, the battle of Al-Zallaqa (in Andalusia) in 1086, the battle of Ein Jalut in 1260, as well as the 1973 War (called The Ramadan War)

Iran is a 1/2 day ahead of us... when it's 10/11 there it will still be "10-10" here.

Iran has promised a devastating “final response” to supporters of the Jewish State on October 12, the Islamic Republic’s Quds (Jerusalem) Day.

“Supporters of the Zionist regime will receive their response during the world Quds Day's rallies,” Iranian government spokesman Gholam-Hossein Elham said at a weekly press conference Wednesday.
...
Quds Day is held each year on the last Friday of the Islamic month of Ramadan. It was instituted in 1979, following the Islamic revolution by Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini.

Will Iran be be celebrating a devastating “final response” on 10/12/2007 at their Quds Day rallies in Tehran?

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re: #240 Josephine

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re: #187 traehYou have posted 25 comments since joining on Sept. 15 2007.
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#187 [deleted] 9/20/2007 3:57:03 pm PDT

Just check out her website. Then decide. She has a long and honorable presence on other blogs concerned with Islamic encroachment.

I agree with your conclusion but it's not my decision to make.
Jay777, (not sure of the nic)among others, used to "blogpimp" "Stop The ACLU". (A decent site in my opinion) and Charles put a stop to it. I guess if you let one do it, you'd have to let all do it. I respect his position on this. I hope you can show the courtesy to do likewise..

It wouold be a shame if a piece of something fell on dinnerjacket's head if that asshole visits Ground Zero...wait, no, it wouldn't.

There needs to be protesters around wherever that jackass appears while he's in the US, holding signs with his picture showing his direct involvement in the 1979 hostage crisis! That SOB shouldn't be allowed on US soil, much less Manhattan Island!

Of course, Jimmah will be there to greet him, I suppose, and give him a great big hug, all the whille, dinnerjacket is thinking about what a useful idiot Jimmah really is to him. It's positively sickening.

The Iranian President desired to make a gesture of good-will towards the US and we won’t let him?

I don't know if any has mentioned this (didn't read all the posts), put have those idiots on the left that are support this visit ever stopped to consider that maybe, just maybe, dinnerjacket is actually wanting to visit ground zero to pay homage to the hijackers?

Having Ahmanutjob visit ground zero would be like having Hirohito or Tojo visiting Pearl Harbor or Hitler visting Yad Vashem.. But then again, who am I to judge...

/sarc off

Like,WHAT?

Who are we to judge his sincerity? Because we take him at his words, sincerely, we must not allow this sewer rat to make propaganda points on American soil. Oh no, we do not doubt this rat's sincerity at all.

gesture of goodwill? oh yeah, we should totally reward them for those nicely packed roadside bombs and missiles they are freely giving to Iraqi Insurgents. What great guys!