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Columbia Cancels Ahmadinejad Speech (Update - No, They Didn't)

Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 3:55:18 pm PDT

The Ahmadinejad reversals are coming in fast and furious. Now Columbia University is backing out of their invitation to the Holocaust-denying thug: Columbia Says It Canceled Ahmadinejad’s Appearance.

Sept. 20 (Bloomberg) — Columbia University said it canceled a planned speech by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad after failing to reach agreement on the format of his scheduled appearance on Sept. 24.

Columbia wasn’t able to “establish a conversation with the Iranian embassy that would ensure to my satisfaction that the specific arrangements of any such program would reflect the academic values that are the hallmark of a university,” university President Lee Bollinger said in a statement.

Bollinger earlier said he would introduce Ahmadinejad by challenging him on issues such as the Iranian leader’s denial of the Holocaust, his vow to destroy Israel, support for terrorism and nuclear ambitions. Ahmadinejad also must “divide his time evenly” between a speech and questions, Bollinger said.

The university came under pressure during the day to cancel the Iranian leader’s appearance. “A man who is directing the maiming and killing of Americans troops should not be given an invitation to speak at an American university,” Senator John McCain, an Arizona Republican and presidential candidate, said in a statement.

UPDATE at 9/20/07 4:36:42 pm:

We have another backflip.

Sept. 20 (Bloomberg) — Columbia University said it has not canceled a planned speech by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, contrary to a Bloomberg News report.

The Sept. 24 event will go forward as scheduled, said Robert Hornsby, the director of media relations at Columbia University in New York.

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1 cjstavern  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:56:34pm

Won't be long before the kos kids start whining about the right of free speech.

2 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:57:02pm

I'm kinda wondering if the problem was that they couldn't come up with a podium short enough or a foot stool tall enough.

3 rabid fanatic  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:57:08pm

SWEET!

4 Son Of The Godfather  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:57:26pm

Maybe they can dig up Hitler's corpse and use that.

5 theheat  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:57:47pm
wasn’t able to “establish a conversation with the Iranian embassy that would ensure to my satisfaction that the specific arrangements of any such program would reflect the academic values that are the hallmark of a university”

Never stopped them before.

Somehow, this will be blamed on Bush. He orchestrated the whole thing behind the scenes. Bank on it.

6 wordwolf  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:58:03pm

I guess this must mean that ol' Ahmadojihad is some kind of "conservative" ...

7 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:58:18pm

well, i'm feeling alittle better. two venues taken from this pos.

8 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:58:23pm

re: #4 Son Of The Godfather

LOL. It's Hail Columbia, not Heil Columbia!

9 Eowyn2  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:58:35pm

YES

10 pat  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:58:39pm

I guess the female faculty members that they would not be in the front row afterall. They would be in the designated Burqua Balconey.

11 chrisbg99  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:58:45pm

I can just imagine the softball questions that would have been thrown his way.

12 Meryl Yourish  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:58:51pm

Good. Common sense is making a comeback.

13 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:58:58pm

In other words he was not going to be given a forum to bash the United States and backed out. Little chicken shit.

14 Corona  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:59:10pm

Columbia prolly got so many threats the head honcho decided it wasn't worth the publicity.

15 Eowyn2  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:59:13pm

re: #6 wordwolf

I guess this must mean that ol' Ahmadojihad is some kind of "conservative" ...

Shouldnt that be Ahmadohihado

16 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:59:27pm

re: #10 pat

It's that or the press would get no photo-ops.

17 bulwrk  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 3:59:51pm

re: #4 Son Of The Godfather


I hear Stalins corpse is still in good shape and is just laying around.

18 goodbye_natalie  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:00:43pm

Oh darn. I was hoping to get a ticket. I've been practicing my throwing and was just getting in rhythm.

19 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:00:46pm
20 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:01:11pm

re: #17 bulwrk

I hear Stalins corpse is still in good shape and is just laying around. stiff.

There.

21 goodbye_natalie  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:01:35pm

Is Hugo still available?

22 ted  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:01:36pm

Columbia Excuse= Dhimmitude

23 Eowyn2  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:02:36pm

re: #19 buzzsawmonkey

Columbia University said it canceled a planned speech by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad after failing to reach agreement on the format of his scheduled appearance on Sept. 24.

Bollinger agreed to wear the slap shoes and the Bozo wig while making his introduction, but he drew the line at the light-up, beeping red nose.


they just couldnt get the glowing halo effect ready on time.

24 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:02:43pm
The university came under pressure during the day to cancel the Iranian leader’s appearance.

Good.

I hope they felt an elephant sitting on their chest, however, I somehow doubt they did.

25 opnion  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:04:27pm

We all believe in academic freedom , but this would have been over the top.
This guy is a little monster & should not be hosted anywhere while he is facilitating the killing of our troops.
Oh hell , he should never be hosted anywhere at any time.

26 Eowyn2  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:04:36pm

re: #14 Corona

Columbia prolly got so many threats the head honcho decided it wasn't worth the publicity.

I'm guessing it was the following kinds of threats

1) Financial
2) PR
3) Financial
4) Financial
5) Financial

the negative financial did not offset any positive financials.

27 goodbye_natalie  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:04:44pm

Oh good, I see it is now back on.

28 Gagdad Bob  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:04:47pm

Makes sense. Columbia wasn’t able to ensure the program reflected its academic values. They were afraid it might not be sufficiently anti-American.

29 missouri boy  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:05:00pm

Why don't we offer him the UN? I'm sure iran would love to have it on their shores.

30 cosmo  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:05:10pm

There was a threat of an on-campus tasing...

31 The Bruce  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:05:14pm

The adults must have contacted the Columbia prez and told him precisely what would happen to the school after the Islamoid left the campus.

32 Eowyn2  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:05:49pm

I'm going home.

No Submission - check your mail on Saturday.

33 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:06:03pm

Bloomberg news says speech(copious amounts of bullshit) is still going to happen.

34 traeh  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:06:12pm

Click the link again guys. The speech apparently has not been cancelled.

35 Gagdad Bob  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:06:23pm

Well, at least Ahmadinejad is in good company at Columbia. They don't allow the ROTC either.

36 missouri boy  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:06:30pm

re: #18 goodbye_natalie

Oh darn. I was hoping to get a ticket. I've been practicing my throwing and was just getting in rhythm.

How far can you throw a peice of bacon? LOL!

37 eastvillageinfidel  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:06:49pm

When I click on the above link , the page has an article stating it IS happening. Am I looking in the wrong place?

38 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:06:59pm
39 winston06  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:07:18pm

He and his regime must go to hell

[Link: thespiritofman.blogspot.com...]

40 Amy  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:07:43pm

Now the link says that the visit is back on. I guess we need an update, Charles...

41 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:07:55pm

re: #35 Gagdad Bob
Nope, they're going to allow this terrorist enabler and holocaust denier but not our military on campus. The Ivy League can go to hell.

42 ted  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:07:59pm

OT: Time Magazine mocks critics of MoveOn.org's "General Betray Us" Ad:

How Dare You
Wednesday, Sep. 19, 2007 By MICHAEL KINSLEY
Enlarge Photo
Goodness gracious. oh, my paws and whiskers. Some of the meanest, most ornery hombres around are suddenly feeling faint. Notorious tough guys are swooning with the vapors. The biggest beasts in the barnyard are all aflutter over something they read in the New York Times. It's that ad from MoveOn.org — the one that calls General David Petraeus, the head of U.S. forces in Iraq, general betray us. All across the radio spectrum, right-wing shock jocks are themselves shocked. How could anybody say such a thing? It's horrifying. It's outrageous. It's disgraceful. It's just beyond the pale ... It's ... oh, my heavens ... say, is it a bit stuffy in here? ... I think I'm going to ... Could I have a glass of ... oh, dear [thud].
Welcome to the wonderful world of umbrage, the new language of American politics. You would not have thought that the likes of Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly would be so sensitive. Sticks and stones and so on. Yet they all seem to have taken one look at that ad and fainted dead away. And when they came round, they demanded — as if with one voice (or at least as if with one list of talking points) — that every Democratic presidential candidate must "condemn" this shocking, shocking document.

The ad is pretty tough, and the pun on the general's name is pretty witless. You could argue that since the verb betray and the noun traitor have the same root, the ad is accusing the head of American forces in Iraq of treason. The ad can also be interpreted — more plausibly if you consider the rest of the text — merely as questioning the general's honesty, not his patriotism. But whatever your interpretation of the ad, all the gasping for air and waving of scented handkerchiefs among the war's most enthusiastic supporters is pretty comical.

It's all phony, of course. The war's backers are obviously delighted to have this ad from which they can make an issue. They wouldn't trade it for a week in Anbar province (a formerly troubled area of Iraq that is now, thanks to us, an Eden of peace and tranquillity where barely a car bomb disturbs the perfumed silence — or so they say). These days, mock outrage is used by every side of every dispute. It's fair enough to criticize something your opponent said while secretly thanking your lucky stars that he said it. The fuss over this MoveOn.org ad is something else: it is the result of a desperate scavenging for umbrage material. When so many people are clamoring for a chance to swoon that they each have to take a number and when the landscape is so littered with folks lying prostrate and pretending to be dead that it starts to look like the end of a Civil War battle re-enactment, this isn't spontaneous mass outrage. This is choreography.

[Link: www.time.com...]

43 edomswim  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:08:11pm

OT (sorry for the OT this early)


Barak Obama is going to be on my campus tomorrow. I'm very excited to ask him a few questions such as:

Why he supports a racist like Al Sharpton?
Why invade Pakistan but pull out of Iraq?
Why he thinks the Palestinian people are suffering more than those in Darfur?
Why he wants to teach sex ed to 2nd graders?

Anything else I should be aware of before going in? This should be fun, and at the very least I hope I get to yell "Don't tase me bro!" at some point.

44 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:08:24pm
45 Shug  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:09:03pm

He'll be at caribou coffee and will be reciting poetry and signing autographs 7-9 PM

46 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:09:11pm
47 gibsonz  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:09:19pm

Could be the "little creep" spiced up his speech enough with leftist tripe and America hating rhetoric for Columbia to allow him to go on as planned.

48 Shug  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:09:59pm

Maybe he'll visit the site of the Freddy's fashion mart fire

49 coquimbojoe  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:10:00pm

This is good news! Maybe he can back out of life and make even more of us happy!

50 kafir  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:10:14pm

What troubles me more than the invitation is that a supposedly pre-eminent university does not have the intellectual capacity to reason ahead of time that this is a really, incredibly stupid idea.

Maybe this is because of such thinkers as Rashidi, or Massad, and the rest of the "winners" they have on staff. Who knows.

The point is that Columbia canceling because of public outcry over their stupidity is as bad as them not being able to make a value judgement in the first place.

Would Columbia have given Hitler a platform from which to speak? They seem to wish to give his intellectual followers such a platform. And it is just as disgusting and disgraceful.

I bet what did happen was that the jewish cabal that rules the world called Lee in his office and told him to back down. Yeah. Thats right.

More likely, quite a few Columbia alumni pointed out in communications with the university that they would be hard pressed to continue associating with the university if the university decided that this particular bit of speech should be free.

That is, despite the sheer magnitude of the indoctrination attempted by the university, the alumni have a clue. Or at least the ones with the large checkbooks.

And that will alter the univerisities outlook damn fast.

Not morals. They don't have any as demonstrated by their abject failure to deal with Massad and others in a rational manner.

I feel for Columbia alumi. It must be terrible to have an alma mater so focused upon being a negative influence upon the youths it is supposed to educate. So focused upon making profound statements of freedom of speech in the face of immorality of the speaker.

For shame Columbia, for shame.

51 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:10:43pm

Give it the best spin for Columbia U, and with reference to the Iranian Political System where the President is NOT the real power. In any case,
who the hell would have invited Hermann Goering to a US University during the war?

-S-

52 ted  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:11:21pm

re: #43 edomswim


Ask him why his wife says he stinks in the morning.

53 J.S.  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:12:32pm

O/T
It's being reported that Dubai wants to own a large segment of NASDAQ.
[Link: money.cnn.com...]

54 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:12:41pm
55 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:13:07pm

I think we're going to see a lot of this, events will be canceled then put back on, re-cancelled, etc...

56 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:13:12pm
57 wordwolf  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:13:14pm

The speech is back on? Dang! Way to prove David Horowitz' thesis, Columbia!

(%$#@ing place is my father's alma mater. He was a lying, selfish cheat, but he hated Nixon, so he fit right in...)

58 Hardcore UFO  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:13:27pm

But what about developing a constructive dialog? Establishing challenging conversation? Creating an atmosphere for free speech and debate? BLAH BLAH BLAH!

59 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:13:38pm
60 ted  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:13:50pm

re: #51 Dr. Shalit


"In any case,
who the hell would have invited Hermann Goering to a US University during the war?"

Columbia would have. Harvard too.

61 Pope Insouciance IV  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:13:54pm
Bollinger earlier said he would introduce Ahmadinejad by challenging him on issues such as the Iranian leader’s denial of the Holocaust, his vow to destroy Israel, support for terrorism and nuclear ambitions.

and offering to fellate him on stage.

62 bop1[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:14:07pm
63 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:14:16pm
64 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:14:32pm

It's truly amazing how Carl Rove is able to pull off all of these Geo-political shenanigans. Or was it Cheney?...?...

/just another conspiracy theory...

Power to the Correct People!

65 ted  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:14:42pm

re: #56 ploome hineni


Thx.

66 kafir  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:14:59pm

re: #60 ted

re: #51 Dr. Shalit


"In any case,
who the hell would have invited Hermann Goering to a US University during the war?"

Columbia would have. Harvard too.

Would have heard more than a few Seig Heils as well...

67 tarkus  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:14:59pm

if you go to that link, it has been corrected. Columbia U is now saying that the lecture is NOT cancelled...

68 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:15:02pm

re: #50 kafir

kafir -

With a little luck, perhaps Gen. David Petreaus might be the Next President of Columbia U. Worked for "Ike" - didn't it?

-S-

69 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:15:29pm
70 BenZacharia  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:15:59pm

re: #45 Shug

Speaking of caribou, at The James Tuesday, I went to the caf to find some coffee under 3 bucks a cup. While looking around I asked someone where the coffee service was. They pointed to a caribou kiosk, I asked them if they had any coffee that didn't support homicide bombers, got the 'funny look' before they pointed me towards the normal coffee, 80¢ a cup.

71 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:16:03pm

I mentioned this in the previous thread, but I figured it bears repeating.

So as it stands right now, no ground Zero visit or Columbia U speaking engagement for Dinner Jacket?

I'm sure this will be a big blow to the Kos-KKKidz, troofers, Code Pinkos and other assorted lefty freaks who suddenly hold this tenuous and contrived appreciation for freedom of speech (for Dinner Jacket, at least- imagine if Wayne LaPierre wanted to speak @ Columbia).

But look at it this way, Kos KKKidies- no trip to Ground Zero or Columbia is a far more mild rebuke for Ahmadinejad than a dissident in Iran would get from the hands of his government.

/Think Komiteh thugs beating on you or your loved ones with bicycle chains- and from there, that's about as good as it gets.

72 yenta-fada  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:16:47pm

I hope that the entire faculty of Columbia goes back to Iran and tries out "free speech" over there. It's only fair. Public hanging?
I can hope.

Re#61 Pope I-4
You are baaad!

73 ted  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:17:03pm

re: #61 Pope Insouciance IV

Bollinger earlier said he would introduce Ahmadinejad by challenging him on issues such as the Iranian leader’s denial of the Holocaust, his vow to destroy Israel, support for terrorism and nuclear ambitions.

And if there is a Santa Claus too, right ?

74 missouri boy  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:17:57pm

Maybe iran will buy Columbia...after all, saudis own Harvard.

75 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:18:32pm
76 kafir  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:18:35pm

Columbia university: Giving free speech platforms to immoral genocidal maniacs.

At Columbia, we are happy to provide a platform for the most heinous dictators and regimes to spew their vile distortions and half-truths, all in the name of freedom of speech. After all, it doesn't matter if the speech is true or made up. It just matters if its free.

77 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:18:40pm

Now I'm feeling much much better...I was really down when I thought our government was going to treat ol'dinnajacket like...well... somebody important... and other than the filth he is and represents

78 Cobra  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:19:46pm

re: #74 missouri boy

Maybe iran will buy Columbia...after all, saudis own Harvard.

Apparently, they have.

79 Pro-Bush Canuck  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:22:38pm

The problem is that America isn't imperialistic.

The world would be much better off if America simply conquered and then ran properly the entire Arabian peninsula. Sort of like a modern-day version of the Raj.

80 missouri boy  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:22:59pm

re: #78 Cobra

An armed society is a polite society

From your football...I like! gmtal

81 garycooper  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:23:11pm

It's back on, again!

WTF is going on, over there?

82 tblot  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:24:51pm

BROVO Now if someone in New York would LT him from the back side

83 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:24:52pm

re: #81 garycooper

The article has been corrected..by Bloomberg..re-read it.

84 garycooper  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:25:10pm

Columbia Says Ahmadinejad Appearance Not Canceled (Correct)

By Michael Forsythe

(Corrects story to say event to proceed.)

Sept. 20 (Bloomberg) -- Columbia University said it has not canceled a planned speech by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, contrary to a Bloomberg News report.

The Sept. 24 event will go forward as scheduled, said Robert Hornsby, the director of media relations at Columbia University in New York.

To contact the reporter on this story: Michael Forsythe at mforsythe@bloomberg.net

Last Updated: September 20, 2007 18:56 EDT

85 Cobra  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:25:15pm

re: #80 missouri boy

re: #78 Cobra

An armed society is a polite society

From your football...I like! gmtal

I'm from Missouri too.

86 ted  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:26:13pm

re: #66 kafir

Historian: Harvard welcomed Nazis in the 1930s


BOSTON (AP) — Harvard University enhanced the reputation of the Nazi regime when it sanctioned events in the 1930s attended by Nazis, a historian claimed Sunday.
"Harvard remained largely indifferent to the persecution of Germany's Jews," said Stephen H. Norwood, a University of Oklahoma history professor who is writing a book about the response of American universities to the Nazi party.

Norwood presented some of his findings at a conference on the Holocaust at Boston University, where he was the keynote speaker.

[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

87 phoenixgirl  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:26:49pm

what started out as a bleak day has certainly made a 180! Thank you to everyone who called and emailed your representatives, senators and the university!

88 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:26:51pm

Columbia Says Ahmadinejad Appearance Not Canceled (Correct)

By Michael Forsythe

(Corrects story to say event to proceed.)

Sept. 20 (Bloomberg) -- Columbia University said it has not canceled a planned speech by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, contrary to a Bloomberg News report.

The Sept. 24 event will go forward as scheduled, said Robert Hornsby, the director of media relations at Columbia University in New York.

To contact the reporter on this story: Michael Forsythe at mforsythe@bloomberg.net

Last Updated: September 20, 2007 18:56 EDT

89 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:26:51pm

Hot Air headlines...
Courage for Dan Rather
By Mary Mapes

90 missouri boy  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:28:11pm

re: #85 Cobra

re: #80 missouri boy


re: #78 Cobra

An armed society is a polite society

From your football...I like! gmtal


I'm from Missouri too.

Hot damn! One of our boys! lol!

91 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:28:14pm

Mr. Mahmood Ahmadinejad has the right to speak at ANY American University he wishes ok?

Exactly as Mr. George W. Bush has the right to speak at ANY Iranian University he...

Wait a minute...
He can't? No equality? No justice? No tit-for-tat? No same rights for Americans in Iran?

Then FUCK MAHMOOD AHMADINEJAD AND THE GOAT HE RODE ON.
AND FUCK THE IRANIAN REVOLUTION.

There. I feel better.

Why? Because I'm pro-women and I just found out that women are treated like TRASH in Iran. Fuck all those who trample on women and treat them like fourth-class citizens (after goats and camels).

Disgustin Iran, disgusting islamic anti-women cult. Ugh.

92 beens21  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:28:22pm

it is on according to link.

93 Killgore Trout  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:28:59pm

Re:89
premature post...

Instantly, the far right blogosphere bully boys pronounced themselves experts on document analysis, and began attacking the form and font in the memos. They screamed objections that ultimately proved to have no basis in fact. But they captured the argument. They dominated the discussion by churning out gigabytes of mind-numbing internet dissertations about the typeface in the memos, focusing on the curl at the end of the "a," the dip on the top of the "t," the spacing, the superscript, which typewriters were used in the military in 1972.

It was a deceptive approach, and it worked.

These critics blathered on about everything but the content. They knew they would lose that argument, so they didn't raise it.

94 bluegrass boy  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:29:02pm

ive never been a big mccain guy,...but his stock went up a good bit with me today...

on another note...what the hell is this guy doing in my country to begin with...i guess im just an old southern red neck...i dont watch nascar though

95 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:29:37pm

ok, i'm not taking any chances w/this arrogant little bastard.
i'm going to ground zero on monday.

96 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:30:06pm

Hmmm.

Says NOT CANCELED when I look at it.

97 yenta-fada  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:30:11pm

OT Five alarm fire with explosions at Toronto auto wreckers:

Glenn Goodfellow, a resident on Thora Ave., a block east of Victoria Park Ave., said he heard explosions after the fire started, and that black smoke was hanging above all the houses in the neighbourhood.

He hadn’t yet left his home by 2:30 p.m., although police had evacuated homes on the next street over. “I was just thinking to myself if I should leave and go for a walk,” he said. Goodfellow had closed all his doors and windows due to the smoke.

The fire was first reported at 1:51 p.m., with numerous callers describing the smell of rubber, explosions and billowing, black smoke. Toronto police Const. Wendy Drummond said evacuation of neighbouring buildings occurred right up the block to Danforth Avenue. While there are no injuries, the fire is not yet under control. A total of 49 fire vehicles were on the scene at 5 p.m.

WHY DO I THINK MUSLIMS WERE INVOLVED? I'm Islamaphobic... Oh yeah. The fact that they don't give out any facts in the media is making me craaazy. SOP

98 keyword  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:30:35pm

He is going to speak at Columbia University: I'm not surprised, but don't give a rat's ass.
He won't speak at Columbia University: I'm not surprised, but don't give a rat's ass.

He wants to desecrate Ground Zero by visiting: He'll be surprised at how much we care.

99 americanpundit  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:30:39pm

It's still on.

100 ted  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:30:48pm

OT: Get this:

CNN SIU: Judgment in Jena

CNN's Kyra Phillips gets to the heart of a racial crisis gripping a small southern town. A can’t miss hour of justice in black and white.

Watch Thursday, 8 p.m. ET

Also cant miss.

Dan Rather on Larry King at 9pm !

101 RightOfAtilla  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:31:13pm

re: #95 nyc redneck

ok, i'm not taking any chances w/this arrogant little bastard.
i'm going to ground zero on monday.

Wish I could be there, he'd be hearing some good ole profane American iinvective!

102 zygazint  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:31:36pm

Finally, some good news.

103 WayDownSouthInBama  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:31:47pm

What kind of "academic value" can a terrorist supporting scumbag like Ahbeenajerk offer to Columbia University? Does supporting the destruction of Jews,and their nation,have any academic value? Does helping supply our enemies in Iraq so they can kill our soldiers have and academic value? I'd like to see Columbia University explain what academic value they saw in inviting one of the worlds biggest terrorist supporters to speak.

President Lee Bollinger is now on a CYA mission. His b.s. isn't working on me. Ahbeenajerk was INVITED to speak and no doubt Mr. Bollinger gave his O.K. in the matter before the invite was offered. The invitation itself is an insult to every American and it's something that should have been knocked down by Bollinger before it ever got wings.

104 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:32:04pm

re: #86 ted

I feel sick to my stomach, literally. I was born in 1938, and lived in a Boston suburb...so many cousins went to Harvard, including one who got in when there was a quota (unwritten) for Jewish students..same with my classmates at Newton High School.

I had no idea. It should not be a surprise, given that the Ivies were all like that, but the idea that nazis were given a platform?

Those who forget the past...

105 Thanos  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:32:08pm

Is sanity breaking out on campus or what?


Sorry to have been gone all day, I had someone leave a comment on my blog saying they knew where Bin Laden was, some interesting pics but looks like another loon. On top of that the virus I thought I was rid of keeps coming back, three flavors of scan, the stinger, F-secure's online scan all fail to remove it. It's an interesting little beastie.

106 americanpundit  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:33:03pm
#105 Thanos

Is sanity breaking out on campus or what?

'Fraid not.

107 Bobblehead  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:34:21pm
Columbia wasn’t able to “establish a conversation with the Iranian embassy that would ensure to my satisfaction that the specific arrangements of any such program would reflect the academic values that are the hallmark of a university,” university President Lee Bollinger said in a statement.

That's choice!

108 Eric Cartman's Conscience  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:34:25pm

McCain is back in the race.

After I saw that fat, female truther confront Rudy and basically blame him for 9/11, only to have Rudy respond haltingly instead of telling her off, I've been waiting for a man to take the reigns. Imagojihad must be rooting for McCain because McCain is taking the ground zero/Ahmadinejad mantle and he's running with it.

109 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:34:29pm

When I click on the Bloomberg link above it say that the speech IS NOT CANCELED.

110 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:34:42pm

Sanity on a "liberal" campus? Surely you jest. Not going to happen.

111 zygazint  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:35:05pm

Maybe not. grrroan...

112 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:35:48pm
113 Bobblehead  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:36:09pm

Ooh..I'l bet the "Move Ons" are pissed.

114 missouri boy  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:37:00pm

re: #109 Ringo the Gringo

When I click on the Bloomberg link above it say that the speech IS NOT CANCELED.

Charles needs to update.

115 ted  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:37:07pm

re: #89 Killgore Trout

Hot Air headlines...
Courage for Dan Rather
By Mary Mapes

Charles, you must read this..Mapes is off her meds...again.

116 Eri  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:37:30pm

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON?

117 nikis-knight  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:37:43pm

I don't know if it has been said yet, but remember, Ahmadinejad was likely one of those who took over the American Embassy a few decades ago. Let him apoligize (and make reparations for) that before... well, before we kick him out for more current reasons!

118 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:39:05pm

I'm getting whip-lash.

119 Cobra  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:39:06pm

re: #109 Ringo the Gringo

When I click on the Bloomberg link above it say that the speech IS NOT CANCELED.

It's been updated/corrected. The earlier version definitely said canceled.
I still have it in an open window. Could wrap it up and send it to you if need to see it.

120 americanpundit  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:39:10pm

I'm sorry, but CBS (hat tip Allah) reported the same thing. What happened?

121 ted  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:39:21pm

re: #104 NY Nana

re: #86 ted

I feel sick to my stomach, literally. I was born in 1938, and lived in a Boston suburb...so many cousins went to Harvard, including one who got in when there was a quota (unwritten) for Jewish students..same with my classmates at Newton High School.

I had no idea. It should not be a surprise, given that the Ivies were all like that, but the idea that nazis were given a platform?

Those who forget the past...

Yes Nana, very sad that things haven't changed much.

122 Pro-Bush Canuck  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:39:43pm

re: #117 nikis-knight

I don't know if it has been said yet, but remember, Ahmadinejad was likely one of those who took over the American Embassy a few decades ago. Let him apoligize (and make reparations for) that before... well, before we kick him out for more current reasons!

I can think of a few ways he can make "reparations". Involving a cattle prod and a swimming pool full of barbed wire...

123 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:40:34pm
124 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:41:02pm

re: #114 missouri boy

Charles already did.

Lizards, please, please take this poll..apparently the cozkidz and moonbats have taken over re Columbia

125 J.S.  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:41:15pm

re: #103 WayDownSouthInBama

In an interview, the dinnerjacket claims that he wants to stand in front of ground zero and discuss the "root causes" of 9/11. I presume he'd do the same at Columbia U and the moonbats would applaud wildly and give him a standing ovation.

126 pdogg  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:42:00pm

re: #43 edomswim

Don't ask too many questions or you might get tased, bro.

127 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:42:14pm

re: #121 ted

Yes Nana, very sad that things haven't changed much.

*sigh*

128 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:42:24pm

Perhaps on his way to Columbia, Mr Amadinnerjacket will have his driver cruise past Ground Zero...just to take in the sights and have his picture taken.

129 Bobblehead  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:43:39pm

Mamoody must be laughing his ass off watching the U.S. tie itself in knots over his visit. This is all very sad.

130 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:43:47pm

re: #124 NY Nana
Nana, I'm sorry but most college campuses(sp) have been taken over by the fellow travelers in academia teaching, and young minds full of mush following.

131 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:43:51pm

some wealthy alumnus must have threatened to pull his big endowment.

132 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:43:57pm

re: #119 Cobra

I believe you.

133 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:44:19pm

re: #115 ted

I read it as well... I have to say, she did a good job of kickin' the long dead horses.

What more can you expect? She got fired, didn't she?

134 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:44:23pm

re: #118 MandyManners

You ain't the only one.

135 Canadian Guy  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:44:26pm

I'm listening to the Mark Levin Show

He's reporting the Bloomberg story is erroneous and Dinner Jacket's speaking engagement is still on.

136 Thanos  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:44:50pm

re: #123 ploome hineni

Thanos,

re: #105 Thanos

try AVG 2-3 times also, somthimes it isn;t erased the first time

I've thought I've completely erased it about four times now, and I am watching what it does through netstat, firewall logs, and task manager. It looks like it's gone, but it's not. F-Secure has a new extended update out today, I am trying that. Think this is a new mutable

137 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:45:05pm

re: #53 J.S.

J.S. -

If it were us buying their exchange is one thing, them buying OURS is ridiculous. Too much room for manipulation, if they want to participate in our market - LET THEM BUY STOCKS!

-S-

138 missouri boy  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:45:23pm

re: #124 NY Nana

re: #114 missouri boy

Charles already did.

Lizards, please, please take this poll..apparently the cozkidz and moonbats have taken over re Columbia


Where do you vote?

139 J.S.  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:46:18pm

And next, of course, Robert Hornsby, the director of media relations will be putting in a good word for the vertically challenged dinnerjacket and be advising that the dinnerjacket be given an honorary doctorate on behalf of Columbia U...that'd be for "the sake of media relations" and to maintain their close Iranian ties.

140 ubercheesehead  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:46:24pm

In an effort to humanize Mr. Ahmadinejad, Columbia is in a full-court press to find a few babies for him to kiss. However, since the school is largely populated by people who believe in cultural suicide by demography they are having a very difficult time coming up with any babies.

/sarc

I didn't really need that sarc tag, did I?

141 Canadian Guy  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:47:40pm

Express your outrage to Columbia

Contact Bollinger's office

The number can be found here.

142 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:48:19pm

re: #138 missouri boy

Go to the left sidebar and click on SNAP POLLS.

143 yochanan  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:49:21pm

wackademics

DOES ANYTHING THEY DO SUPRISE YOU?

I guess they could not get snickergruber, stalin, pol pot or arafish

i guess they are still dead.

144 yochanan  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:51:10pm

re: #141 Canadian Guy

phone mail box is already full.
no shit.

145 Canadian Guy  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:51:50pm

re: #144 yochanan

re: #141 Canadian Guy

phone mail box is already full.
no shit.

You dialed in already, Yochanan?

146 GreenSoccer  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:52:40pm

I hear the meeting is closed to the press though so that pictures of Columbia U students clapping for the little rat won't appear on US TV stations and the sounds won't appear on conservative talk radio stations.

147 pingjockey  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:54:53pm

re: #146 GreenSoccer
Probably be on aljeezera edited for consumption by troofers and jihadis everywhere.

148 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:55:10pm
149 Gozer the Carpathian  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:55:12pm

Hmm... based on the standard number of liberal flip flops I figure they'll call it off and back on at least two more times before they finally let him speak. :p

150 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:55:25pm

re: #94 bluegrass boy

ive never been a big mccain guy,...but his stock went up a good bit with me today...

on another note...what the hell is this guy doing in my country to begin with...i guess im just an old southern red neck...i dont watch nascar though

I'm CA transplant from NJ and I feel exactly the same way. So the location and color of your neck has nothing to do with it.

151 njdhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:57:05pm

re: #146 GreenSoccer

I hear the meeting is closed to the press though so that pictures of Columbia U students clapping for the little rat won't appear on US TV stations and the sounds won't appear on conservative talk radio stations.

Let's hope we have a NYC Zombie in attendance.

152 finallyhere  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:57:06pm

We are blaming wrong people. At least we should start with the "root cause", namely Bush and Rice who allowed this terrorist into the United States in the first place.

153 njdhockeyfan  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:59:10pm

re: #124 NY Nana

re: #114 missouri boy

Charles already did.

Lizards, please, please take this poll..apparently the cozkidz and moonbats have taken over re Columbia

Currently it is

Should Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad be allowed to speak at Columbia University?
Yes 70.0%
No 30.0%

154 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 4:59:25pm

re: #141 Canadian Guy

Express your outrage to Columbia

Contact Bollinger's office

The number can be found here.

and here's his email address... bollinger@columbia.edu

155 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 5:05:28pm

re: #94 bluegrass boy

ive never been a big mccain guy,...but his stock went up a good bit with me today...

on another note...what the hell is this guy doing in my country to begin with...i guess im just an old southern red neck...i dont watch nascar though

"bg" -

Due to OLD UN TREATY OBLIGATIONS - we have to let him in to the extent of being able to go to the UN. Same went for Castro, (El Comandante que ya no puede andar), and the Arafish. The UN gets to invite whoever THEY want. If the resulting video of the sessions looks like the Intergalactic Cafe scene from the first Star Wars - and it usually does -
all WE can do is "suck it up", until and unless we get rid of the treaty. As to NOT watching NASCAR, ok everyone has their tastes but as a Southern Guy - WTF! As I am becoming older than sand - let me tell all y'all - as a geographic Yankee, been watching NASCAR since Benny "Kid" Parrett died in the Boxing Ring. Fireball Roberts, in car tuned by Smokey "Best Dam-ed Garage in Town" Yunick vs. Holman + Moody with
"Fast Freddie" Lorenzen - those were the DAYS my friend.

-S-

156 yenta-fada  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 5:05:30pm

Re #53 JS

The Saudis are having all kinds of responses to the fall of the dollar:

The dollar fell 0.4 per cent to $2.0093 against the pound, lost 1.5 per cent against the yen to Y114.44 and dropped 1 per cent to SFr1.1717 against the Swiss franc.

Some analysts put the dollar’s weakness down to speculation that Saudi Arabia was set to abandon its peg against the US dollar.

The talk was started after the Saudi Arabian Monetary Authority announced that it was not going to follow the Fed and cut interest rates in spite of the Saudi riyal’s link to the dollar.

Hans Redeker, of BNP Paribas, said Saudi Arabia not following the Fed’s lead was understandable given the rising inflationary pressure within its economy. “The currency peg will come under increasing pressure the more economic fundamentals of the region diverge from the recessionary US environment,” he said.

Marc Chandler at Brown Brothers Harriman said the dollar’s fall was a reflection of negative sentiment towards the dollar, and talk that Saudi Arabia would abandon its link to the US currency was wide of the mark.

The SAMA had subsequently announced that it held rates steady to combat domestic inflation, he said.

“SAMA did not follow the Fed with a rate hike last year and has repeatedly indicated it will not abandon the peg.”
THESE ARE BIG ECONOMIC SHIFTS imho

157 Stuck-in-CA  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 5:06:28pm

Ground Zero is a hallowed ground.

Columbia is fallow ground.

158 Shaky Louie  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 5:06:54pm

re: #124 NY Nana
70.0% -Yes
30.0%-No
Come on Lizards!

please, please take this poll..apparently the cozkidz and moonbats have taken over re Columbia
159 yenta-fada  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 5:07:12pm

Sorry, I forgot to add that my #156 was OT. I'm still learning the ropes.

160 Jesusland Joe  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 5:09:06pm

I would appreciate it if the good people of New York would take Mr. Ahmadinejad into protective custody. I suggest he be sent down here to Texas where we have a few questions for him to answer, including why he is sending EFDs to Iraq. There are also a number of parents of soldiers who were killed by EFD's who will be allowed to question him more fully, if you know what I mean.

161 Dr. Shalit  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 5:13:50pm

re: #156 yenta-fada

"y-f" -

Love your nic. Assume you are female for what that might be worth.
I look at it this way - Historically - all y'all can make money - SHORT TERM -
betting against the USA and/or the Dollar. Long Term - as the Late Former President Ronald W. Reagan once said - WE WIN/THEY LOSE.

-S-

162 kansas  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 5:15:44pm

How does an observant Muslim kneel to Mecca — in zero gravity?

Add your own punchline.

163 ciaospirit  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 5:20:21pm

re: #43 edomswim

Barak Obama is going to be on my campus tomorrow. I'm very excited to ask him a few questions such as:

Why he supports a racist like Al Sharpton?
Why invade Pakistan but pull out of Iraq?
Why he thinks the Palestinian people are suffering more than those in Darfur?
Why he wants to teach sex ed to 2nd graders?

Anything else I should be aware of before going in?

Yeah, ask him what he thinks of this parody.

Rev. Sharpton Sings:
"Barack the Magic Negro
(That's What the LA Times Called Him)"
%u2022 Visit: PaulShanklin.com

164 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 5:23:00pm
165 darkster2400  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 5:25:27pm

Columbia sounds like a crackerjack organization to me.

How hard is it to figure out the right thing to do (tell the little prick Iranian President to F*** OFF) and get it over with.

Oops - forgot about the B***S*** about intellectual stimulation, free exchange of ideas, etc. - oh, but why doesn't little prick the Iranian President allow that at home?

This is pathetic taken to unheard of dimensions.

166 J.S.  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 5:31:36pm

re: #156 yenta-fada

O/T

THESE ARE BIG ECONOMIC SHIFTS imho

I agree. For the first time in over 30 years the Canadian dollar was at par with the U.S. dollar today. Here's a part of that transcript (CNN's Situation Room) about Dubai buying up NASDAQ:

This could be a first. A Middle Eastern state owned stock exchange holding a large stake in an American stock exchange. Part of a four-way deal, Borse Dubai -- ring a bell -- has agreed to take a 20 percent stake in Nasdaq.

Dubai, which is in the United Arab Emirates, has been highlighted as a transit point for money used to finance terrorism. So, as you might imagine, not everybody thinks this is a terrific idea. Some lawmakers are worried about compromises to security in the U.S., and it sounds like some of what we heard back when another Dubai-owned company -- remember D.P. Ports World? -- tried to buy a company that manages several American ports.

Senator Chuck Schumer said the deal, which would make Dubai a big player in New York finance, would "raise serious questions that have to be answered." Adding, quoting again, "Should any government own any part of a major U.S. stock exchange?"

When asked about it, President Bush said a national security review will be conducted on the planned investment.

167 FrogMarch  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 5:45:37pm

oh good. Nancy Pelosi just bought a stack of new fancy head-scarves.

168 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 5:55:22pm

re: #158 Shaky Louie

Scary. Very scary.

/Apparently they don't keep up on current events.

169 peck  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 5:59:39pm

re: #1 cjstavern

And the Bill of Rights is whose again? I didn't realize it extended to leaders of enemy states seeking the destruction of our Bill of Rights.
Maybe I just need to read it again./

170 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 6:00:53pm

re: #153 njdhockeyfan

Still the same ratio. Apparently they are not even finished reading this.

171 yenta-fada  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 6:04:16pm

Re #161 Dr. Shalit

Thanks on the nic' compliment.

About making money shorting the U.S. dollar. Not so fast! There are
many chickens coming home to roost for us in the West. Congress just
had to raise the debt ceiling going over 6 TRILLION dollars. Money is
being printed and devalued as we speak. While the U.S. is probably the
consumer of last resort (thus the currency of last resort), that will
change as inflation makes imported goods too expensive for Americans.
We have been losing the middle class since the Reagan years. It just
got harder with the subprime mortgage fiasco. The Fed and the
offshoring of manufacturing have stalled an economic crisis. The dollar
will be sacrificed, but the economy has been hollowed out as well.
Very bad times coming. All must get out of debt as much as possible
stay out of debt.

172 abolitionist  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 6:05:28pm

re: #105 Thanos

It's an interesting little beastie.

Some AV programs can be run in SafeMode, and can be more effective, because only minimal components of windows are yet active. I'm sure you know that already. (Many don't.)

But taking that strategy further, you might want to take a look at F-Prot for DOS. See also How to Make an F-Prot CD

The Windows version of F-Prot (not free) also includes a cmd-line version. Disinfecting viruses using the Command-Line Scanner in Windows XP

173 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 6:06:17pm

re: #130 pingjockey

Believe me, so am I. My 3 grandchildren are 7, 5, and 1. I can't even imagine what it will be like for them.

174 republic  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 6:08:09pm

This would be a

How very sad,

environment.

175 peck  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 6:08:50pm

re: #146 GreenSoccer

Maybe Zombie could cover. Better than msm any day.

176 EE  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 6:13:28pm

On Special Report today (on Fox News), Charles Krauthammer pointed out the odd standard that exists in academe today, when the outstanding Larry Summers (former Harvard president) is disinvited to give a talk at a large university and Ahmadinejad (whose state is a sponsor of terrorism, and a killer of American forces) is invited to speak at Columbia University.

Here is an article about an academic disinvitation to Larry Summers.
[Link: www.captainsquartersblog.com...]

177 EE  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 6:15:27pm

re #176


September 15, 2007
UC Davis Disinvites Lawrence Summers

UC Davis had invited former Harvard president Lawrence Summers to speak at a board dinner during a visit from the regents on September 19th. After his invitation to speak created a firestorm of controversy on campus, the university disinvited Summers in a process that appears to be gaining ground on University of California campuses (via The Corner):

After a group of UC Davis women faculty began circulating a petition, UC regents rescinded an invitation to Larry Summers, the controversial former president of Harvard University, to speak at a board dinner Wednesday night in Sacramento. The dinner comes during the regents' meeting at UCD next week.

Summers gained notoriety for saying that innate differences between men and women could be a reason for under-representation of women in science, math and engineering.

“The regents' dinners have always been informal, social occasions,” said UC spokesman Trey Davis. “Chairman (Richard) Blum and Dr. Summers talked yesterday, and agreed that UC would locate a different speaker. Susan Kennedy, the governor's chief of staff, has this morning graciously agreed to speak at the dinner.”

Summers also garnered criticism for a decline in tenure offers to women during his term as Harvard's president. The combination of those helped force him into resigning his position two years go. His comments on innate differences between genders continue to spark controversy and debate.

Summers may well be wrong about gender differences impacting educational aptitudes in a general or specific sense. Does that mean that Summers should get barred from addressing academics in the future? Does he need to do a Galileo and issue public recantations while muttering E pur si muove under his breath? Because as long as institutions like UC Davis continue to surrender to the dogmatists, Summer will never be heard, and his views will never get proper refutation or support in accordance with the evidence, as opposed to the passions of the day.

Shutting down debate and silencing voices is the antithesis of academic purpose, imposing a politically-correct party line rather than a true pursuit of truth. On the other hand, UCD professor Maureen Stanton, who organized the petition demanding Summers be silenced, would probably be the first to object to firing a dean for his liberal views. It's fascinating to see what happens when the other ox gets gored.

Posted by Ed Morrissey on September 15, 2007 10:11 AM

178 madisonsfriend  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 6:19:10pm

re: #146 GreenSoccer

I hear the meeting is closed to the press though so that pictures of Columbia U students clapping for the little rat won't appear on US TV stations and the sounds won't appear on conservative talk radio stations.

But this is all about free speech- they said so- I mean , why would they lie? If there is no press- how this poor man- who never gets heard- spread his message of love, and peace. How is it free speech if we can't all hear it.

179 J.S.  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 6:21:33pm

re: #176 EE

Who has invited this designated terrorist (that the Dinner Jacket) to the campus? Was it a student organization or the administrators? I'm getting conflicting reports.

180 rhodescholar  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 6:22:15pm

The lowlifes running the unaccountable universities in this nation have overstepped the red line which they were not to cross.

Hiding behind "academic freedom" or "freedom of speech" to "keep the channels of dialogue open is absolute nonsense. There are homeless lunatics on the street, is there opinion of value as well?

This is a perfect example of the desire of this awful school to burninsh its credentials amongst the leftwing elite which it aspires to attract, both socially and for donations.

I, on the other hand, can no longer accept my hard-earned tax dollars going to fund these institutions who demand my money through grants - while enjoying multi-billion-dollar endowments - but refuse any oversight or accountability from me in how their operations are conducted.

The very large jewish community in NYC would obviously be insulted, and I wonder what the media would be saying had a Klan member/party-member of an Austrian right-wing party being given a platform to deny the slavery past of the US. Would the blacks in the US not come to the school to kick ass? Of course they would.

This unforgivable spit in the face of the jews should be met head on, with an aggressive, non-stop campaign to do the following:

1-target the school's tax-exempt, non-profit status. A clearly politically-inclined organization such as this cannot enjoy a tax-exempt status while promulgating arch-leftwing political views.

2-target the donor base, made up of a large number of wealthy jews who, if they were not aware of this school's recent awful behaviour towards its jewish student population, should be.

3-attack the grants being provided to the school to fund research and school programs. Starving the school of funding will reduce professorial salaries, which will in turn lead to high turnover among staff. This will bring significant pressure to bear on their decision making.

4-Demand that if the middle east studies department is not filled with more balanced voices (it is a well-known bastion of the most extreme terrorist apologists and anti-israel and anti-west advocates). This can be performed by striking at the heart of its lifeblood - all high schools students and their college advisors be told that Columbia U graduates will not be well-received in the workforce. I have already instructed my department heads that noone from that school can be accepted as a positional candidate, and this policy will be verified by me personally.

These tactics need to be expanded to other institutions to ensure that this heinous action not be repeated in any shape or form.

Comments welcome.

181 J.S.  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 6:25:06pm

The State Department lists Iran as a sponsor of terrorism and terrorists. The State of Iran is a designated enemy of the United States. So, it is outrageous that a "university" (unless of course, like Columbia it has no qualms with appeasing and smiling at vicious murderers and enemies of America) invites the dinner jacket to lecture Americans about "terrorism" or the "root causes" of 9/11. Let us all contact the Univ Admin...

182 gmsc  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 6:42:22pm

I thought we weren't supposed to distinguish between terrorists and those who support them!

183 mattm  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 6:52:34pm

I wonder id anyone will get tazered t this speech.

184 Reggie Dunlop  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 6:54:58pm

This from a school who refuses to allow military recruiters on its campus due to "discrimination" against gays. Yet Senor Crazy hangs them for fun...

So it seems that Ahmadinejad is more "ok" than those that give us our freedom, at least in the eyes of Columbia.

You gotta be kiddin me.

185 shmu  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 7:24:20pm

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE PUT THIS MASS MURDER PSYCHOPATHIC JEW HATING BARBARIC PIG OUT OF HIS INSANE FANTASTICAL LIFE?

186 kafir  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 7:46:40pm

re: #171 yenta-fada

Money is
being printed and devalued as we speak

Yeah, this bugs me. Few people noticed that the Fed has injected in several hundred *billion* dollars to the currency market to stave off a liquidity crunch. This is a problem.



. While the U.S. is probably the
consumer of last resort (thus the currency of last resort), that will
change as inflation makes imported goods too expensive for Americans.

Well it won't be inflation that does this. It is the devaluing of the dollar relative to other currencies. It is actually very good for exporters, and could have the effect of increasing exports, as our products get less expensive overnight. The problem is imported components get more expensive, which means fewer of them will be purchased. This is a corrective to trade imbalances, and had China not pegged its currency to a fraction of the dollar, there would be strong positive valuation of the yuen, and thus the trade imbalance would be lower.

But the Chinese didn't let their currency float, and we never had the balls to tell them they should let it float. We let them buy huge amounts of debt, we are addicted to debt, and now they are going to attempt to influence the government by rattling not their swords, but their debt instruments. Get the US government to declare fealty.


We have been losing the middle class since the Reagan years. It just
got harder with the subprime mortgage fiasco. The Fed and the
offshoring of manufacturing have stalled an economic crisis.

Actually the offshoring of manufacturing was going to happen anyway. Manufacturing always seeks the lowest cost provider, anyone thinking otherwise is deluding themselves, and setting themselves up for far more pain in the future.

The subprime mortgage issue appears to be due to people assuming that there is no real risk in mortgages, coupled with huge layoffs of the riskiest set of people getting these mortgages. This was a time bomb, and it didn't blow, but it did cough a little.

What is shocking is that this is going on while the economy is *relatively* ok. All employers are under global competitive pressure, pricing pressure and alike. All have to cut costs to compete. You and I are costs.


The dollar
will be sacrificed, but the economy has been hollowed out as well.
Very bad times coming. All must get out of debt as much as possible
stay out of debt.

In reality, the economy has not been hollowed out, it has undergone a transition. I don't see many buggy whip companies around any more, and for good reason. Same thing is happening with other companies who can do their work remotely for lower cost. This includes IT and knowledge workers.

The issue is that, as with the mortgage, there is risk, substantial risk, in having little manufacturing capability left. In WWII we won in large part because we could make more stuff more quickly than anyone else. As we have shifted to a knowledge based economy, we might be able to consult our enemies to death, but we sure as hell will not be about to out manufacture them.

There is strategic risk to having your supplies come from an enemy or a country that does not have your best interests at heart.

However, they have as much of a problem in that if their major customer goes away, they are going to have serious issues. LIkely social unrest.

187 garycooper  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 7:56:39pm

I wonder how long it would take America to re-tool, in the unlikely event that we had to ramp up domestic production of armaments for a multi-theater war. A lot of factories were built from scratch in the '40's, and others had to be completely re-tooled, to churn out the tanks, planes, guns, ammo and myriad other requirements of the vast new military machine. I guess I think we could do it again, if need be. It's just not likely we will ever need to fight that kind of war again. We have excess production capability in the auto industry, around here (Detroit), that could be converted if need be. There are empty factories all over the country, in fact.

188 usefulidiot  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 7:57:16pm

I say: let the Iranian leader travel freely throughout the entire US and speak wherever he wishes. And, we will do our best to provide safety and security for him.
/wink wink

189 FrogMarch  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:11:34pm
190 J.S.  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:17:23pm

re: #186 kafir

Right now I'm reading: "Crash Proof: How to profit from the coming economic collapse" by Peter D. Schiff. (from the jacket cover, ya gotta re-think your stock protfolio; capitalize on the gold market; and stay liquid. I like the last point -- stay liquid.)

191 tchad  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:17:48pm

Here is my theory on how the non-cancelled speech came to be reported as cancelled. I think that Bloomberg reporter Bill Varner mistook a year-old letter from CU President Lee Bollinger for a current document. Ahmadinejad was scheduled to speak at Columbia almost exactly one year ago, and that appearance was cancelled.
Varner's piece, at
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
says:
Columbia wasn't able to ``establish a conversation with the Iranian embassy that would ensure to my satisfaction that the specific arrangements of any such program would reflect the academic values that are the hallmark of a university,'' college President Lee Bollinger said in a statement.

Bollinger's September 2006 letter at
[Link: www.columbiaspectator.com...]
contains that exact quote.

192 Dustyvet  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:20:25pm
193 Dahveed  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 8:36:01pm

ADL Calls On Columbia University To Rescind Invitation To Iranian President Ahmadinejad

New York, NY, September 20, 2007 ... The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today called on Columbia University to reconsider its decision to host Iran's president at a question and answer session with faculty and students. Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is scheduled to speak September 24 at a forum sponsored by the university's School of International and Public Affairs.

A similar invitation to Ahmadinejad was revoked last year by Columbia President Lee Bollinger.

"It is inappropriate and a perversion of the concept of freedom of speech," said Abraham H. Foxman, ADL National Director. "Columbia University has no moral imperative, no legal imperative, no social imperative to give Ahmadinejad a platform, which he would not give them in Tehran. Why give him the credibility and the respectability of a major institution of higher learning? What message does that send to the students? This is not what the First Amendment is all about."

In a letter to President Bollinger, ADL said it was "extremely dismayed" by the university's invitation to the Iranian President, who has repeatedly called for the destruction of Israel and has made remarks denying the Holocaust, and Bollinger's plans to personally introduce him at the forum. The League noted Iran's support for international terrorism and his country's ambition to acquire nuclear weapons as reasons enough not to provide Ahmadinejad a platform at Columbia.

"Last year, Columbia almost made the same mistake," said Mr. Foxman. "Ahmadinejad didn't get better since then. He's gotten worse."

194 Timbre  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:06:18pm

Hey, Columbia: Saving face is especially pathetic when you are two-faced. Dwight Eisenhower would be embarrassed to be your University President now.

195 Mike Nargizian  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:10:24pm
Holocaust-denying thug:


HOW ABOUT -
1) Hostage taking thug 1979
2) Religious extremist
3) Islamist Dictator thug guilty of human rights violations of students, Kurds and many other Iranian groups. (Any stupid Columbia retards ask any questions on that)

COLUMBIA HAS A PROBLEM WITH -
1) Daniel Pipes
2) Minutemen
3) Brigitte Gabriel

Those groups are "too extremist" in their points of view...
but an actual real life Human Rights Violating, murdering, Dictator... who also happens to deny the Holocaust and has vowed to "wipe Israel off the map"...
HE'S PERFECT FOR A "DISCUSSION"... well bcs he's from the Muslim world... so it's PC... and fascist to prevent him from speaking here and visiting Ground Zero.

196 blue_like_jazz  Thu, Sep 20, 2007 9:56:33pm

re: #182 gmsc

I thought we weren't supposed to distinguish between terrorists and those who support them!


and there we have it, ladies and gentlemen.

197 redvoter  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 12:25:54am

so are any Neo-Nazis scheduled to speak in the coming months? Klansmen? Was it Columbia where the Minutemen spoke? I wonder if any enraged students will be allowed to storm the stage and censor the speech they do not like.

198 funkyfantom  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 6:41:42am

re: #91 MigueldowninMexico

Mr. Mahmood Ahmadinejad has the right to speak at ANY American University he wishes ok?

Exactly as Mr. George W. Bush has the right to speak at ANY Iranian University he...

Wait a minute...
He can't? No equality? No justice? No tit-for-tat? No same rights for Americans in Iran?

Then FUCK MAHMOOD AHMADINEJAD AND THE GOAT HE RODE ON.
AND FUCK THE IRANIAN REVOLUTION.

There. I feel better.

Why? Because I'm pro-women and I just found out that women are treated like TRASH in Iran. Fuck all those who trample on women and treat them like fourth-class citizens (after goats and camels).

Disgustin Iran, disgusting islamic anti-women cult. Ugh.

Hola amigo. Mira esto:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5217424.stm

199 bkgodfrey  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 7:41:36am

re: #1 cjstavern

You are right. It's sad that some individuals on a campus like this will give the leader of a country that openly sponsors terror more freedom of speech than a group of individuals fighting and proposing for the U.S. to secure its borders. Remember what happened to the MinuteMen on this campus?

200 samsgran1948  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:11:21am
We have been losing the middle class since the Reagan years. It just
got harder with the subprime mortgage fiasco. The Fed and the
offshoring of manufacturing have stalled an economic crisis.

I went to High School from Sept. 1962 to June 1966. (Yes, I'm old; I freely admit it. And I'm going to get just a little bit older on Sunday. BLAH!) During my entire four years at Sterling Regional, we kids were hammered day after day with statements from the faculty and the administration that industrial jobs were going to dry up, and that we needed to acquire knowledge skills in order to secure and hold onto meaningful employment after we graduated. Of course, our teachers weren't thinking about off-shoring, but automation, the idea that one individual would control a machine that would do the work previously done by lots of men. But even though they weren't concerned about off-shoring, they knew back in the early '60s that manufacturing jobs were going south, so it shouldn't be that big of a surprise today.

I have already instructed my department heads that noone from that school can be accepted as a positional candidate, and this policy will be verified by me personally.

RhodesScholar: I was going to question this policy on the grounds that very likely it is only the liberal arts departments at Columbia that are infested with proselytizing LLLs, not the hard sciences. But then I realized that the hard science majors are required to take things like sociology, philosophy and other soft science course, so had probably been infected.

I hope enough people in influential places adopt your policies to make Columbia sit up and notice.


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