eeeek!

Who knew Lillian Vernon (real name Lillian Hochberg) was involved. How odd.

What do you want to make a bet that Lillian Vernon's catalog is filled with crap made in China?

It's the Mao suits she wears...so sexsay to Hsu...

Do these Hsu's go with my outfit?

clintons and fund raising scandals go together like a horse and carriage.

Flip did a great piece of work. And there's more to be had.

It'll be interesting to see all the fallout.

Picture of Hillary:

"Do these Hsu's go with my pants suit?"

I can see it now....

The cruel Hsus...

Both were left feet.

/Steve Martin

It would'nt surprise me if Hsu had a different title in China....perhaps like "General Hsu"

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

I find this interesting...

But wait... there's still more. Hochberg is also a dean at the New School, where Hsu was a trustee until this scandal broke last month and the school hurriedly removed his name from their website. Also on the New School board is Bernard Schwartz, one of Bill Clinton's biggest financial backers and the central figure in Clinton's scandal involving the sale of missile technology to China.

With the Clintons there are no coincidences. They are in the tank with the toxic Chi-Coms.

Too convoluted for the OJ-Brain-dead masses. Would require Venn diagrams and other assorted visual aids just to keep up.

What a strategy.

Make sure to read it all. The Clintons are so corrupt. & the msm and the blind democrats still love them. Truly disgusting.

The Clintons could eat live babies on live TV and people would still worship them blindly.

This whole thing stinks to high heaven and the MSM just yawns.

Actually, all the facts we need to know are still unknown. We are still just beginning to scrape at the tip of the iceberg. There's lots of bloggy goodness to deal with here - and I can only hope that the media really begins to look more closely (though because these are overwhelmingly Democrats involved, it wont be that close a look).

If these were GOPers involved, Hsu would have the same name recognition as Jack Abramoff, and those politicians affected would become just as persona non-grata as DeLay and Ney and others implicated in the Abramoff mess.

Questions still unresolved:
How did Hsu get his money in the first place?
What is the Hsu-Hochberg connection, and why was Hsu bundled in with Hochberg's contributions?
Who are the Paws and how did they get the money?
Have the candidates who received Hsu and Hsu-bundled money returned all the money? And is Hillary that stupid to demand(request) that those contributors redonate the money right back to her campaign?

Something stinks here.

The Hsu, The Bagmen, and the Ugly.

re: #10 FrogMarch

I find this interesting...

But wait... there's still more. Hochberg is also a dean at the New School, where Hsu was a trustee until this scandal broke last month and the school hurriedly removed his name from their website. Also on the New School board is Bernard Schwartz, one of Bill Clinton's biggest financial backers and the central figure in Clinton's scandal involving the sale of missile technology to China.

With the Clintons there are no coincidences. They are in the tank with the toxic Chi-Coms.

Amen to that.

Well BrianA, if it weren't for double standards, the MSM wouldn't have any standards

Even more disturbing?... Notice how the MSM is trying to purify the Clintons and their connections. Sweep it all down the memory hole.
We have a press that actively hides the shenanigans and corruption of one party and person: Bill a Hillary Clinton.

General Hsu's Clinton - but you're hungry for more cash in an hour

Wait now... it all depends on how exactly you define "corrupt"...

Incidentally, the new Lillian Vernon catalog will feature a full line of Democrat inspired clothing...
Pant Suits with new, larger and deeper pockets..
Sandy Berger brand underwear, with built-in document pockets...
Stain-proof blue dresses suitable for Oval Office visits...
And... the ever popular head-scarf and knee-pad combo..

We saw stories just like this one in the NY Times when it was Abramoff who was being investigated. Good luck in finding the same sort of coverage of Clinton devotees.

I'm still looking through the spread-sheets.

Good heavenly day, but this is getting...fraught.

re: #11 xgaijin

People are not stupid. They are not brain-dead.

They're simply uninformed; how many of them have even heard of Suitably Flip?

I will grant that ignorance can seem like stupidity, but they are not the same thing.

re: #14 lawhawk

The Paws are pawns. I very much doubt they have the slightest ability to say "no" to Norman Hsu.

I posted this earlier today.

re: #16 xgaijin

Well BrianA, if it weren't for double standards, the MSM wouldn't have any standards

Tends to match their lack of integrity, too.

Ace of Spades is posting on this. Got to love the burning skull.

Yay! I am very happy that someone who has the time is digging into The New School connections -- I did some scraping, but this is going to take real exhaustive excavation. The New School stinks to high heavens, and I've mentioned some speculation in several articles but have not had the time to really trench into it. Hats off to Flip!

re: #25 FrogMarch

I posted this earlier today.

Over the course of many years, the Clintons have received large sums of money from the Communist Chinese government and their surrogates. (Hsu anyone?) The Clintons have even used the power of the presidency to sell the Chinese whatever they wanted in the form of US military secrets. It's for the children ideology.

Just gotta push/drag us to socialism/communism. Bless their black hearts.

Hsu tried to kill himself with pills on train ride, lawyer says

No more Lillian Vernan in my house ever.

re: #5 Sharmuta

clintons and fund raising scandals go together like a horse and carriage.

Like pigs and mud. OK, everybody, make you own anaolgy!

re: #2 FrogMarch

What do you want to make a bet that Lillian Vernon's catalog is filled with crap made in China?

I'll guarantee it is. I deliver those durned things all the time. About to be delivering mounds of them over the next couple of months.

re: #8 rappmandu

The cruel Hsus...

Both were left feet.

/Steve Martin

One of my favorite bits of his...evah

Another example of The Blogosphere - Doing Jobs That the MSM Just Won't Do.

Due to the "new tone" the Bush Adm is very reluctant to point out the corruption of the DIMOS. In my opinion, there is far too much co-operation and a need by Repubs to get along with the DIMOS. I think this is aptly illustrated by the Shamnesty farce.

There is a history of the Repubs taking the so called "high road" when dealing with the DIMOS. We can look back at the trashing of the White House when Bush first got into office and how this was denied and covered up. Then we have a Bush speech praising Clinton as a great Pres (spit) and the close relationship with his father and Clinton in fund raising, speeches, etc. Also the DIMO Congressman from La is still serving proudly after the discover of thousands of dollars of cash in his freezer and further corruption evidence that was turned up in his Congressional office. As far as I know, nothing has been done to prosecute him for his glaring corruption.

When the situation is reversed and the DIMOS have a chance to point out Republican transgressions they have no qualms about shouting about this from the rooftops.

I for one would like to see the Repubs on the offense with the DIMOS, taking off the gloves and then giving the DIMOS a bit of their own medicine

The "new tone" and the go along to get along tactics of the Repubs do not inspire the conservative base and causes a blurring of the differences between conservatives and liberals.

I propose we, as compassionate people (the reports say the red-state and red-state minded are better contributors), help our fellow citzen, Hillary.

I hear she lost her Hsu. That's sad, very sad. Now, if you have just one Hsu, you will need a pair to replace them, for no one wants to walk around with unmateched Hus on.

So, find a pair of Hsus, be they sandals, tennis Hsus, jogging Hsus, dress Hsus, or maybe "comfortable" Hsus and send them to Hillary's HQ for her election campaign.

Include a note, if you like, showing your concern and noting how happy you are to help her to get replacement Hsus.

The mail contributions address on her election HQ is:

Hillary Clinton for President
PO Box 40430
Arlington, VA 22204

website coming soon: [Link: www.hsusforhillary.org...]

This could turn into the best Democrat scandal ever. Plus, Hsu's name is eminently punnable. I'm loving it.

New kids show, "Who's Hsu's?"

Can anyone catch Clinton?

Democrats enter the fall campaign with one question hanging over their party: Can anyone catch Hillary Clinton?

The New York senator has combined the party’s most popular brand name with a muscular, disciplined campaign to take a commanding position almost everywhere. She's opened double-digit leads over her nearest rivals in national polls, as well as in early voting states such as New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida and California. If she runs the tables there, the nomination almost certainly will be hers.

Hsu's muscular discipline? Certainly the willing suspension of disbelief.

re: #10 FrogMarch

Hey! My posting vanished!

re: #14 lawhawk

Actually, all the facts we need to know are still unknown. We are still just beginning to scrape at the tip of the iceberg. There's lots of bloggy goodness to deal with here - and I can only hope that the media really begins to look more closely (though because these are overwhelmingly Democrats involved, it wont be that close a look).

If these were GOPers involved, Hsu would have the same name recognition as Jack Abramoff, and those politicians affected would become just as persona non-grata as DeLay and Ney and others implicated in the Abramoff mess.

Questions still unresolved:
How did Hsu get his money in the first place?
What is the Hsu-Hochberg connection, and why was Hsu bundled in with Hochberg's contributions?
Who are the Paws and how did they get the money?
Have the candidates who received Hsu and Hsu-bundled money returned all the money? And is Hillary that stupid to demand(request) that those contributors redonate the money right back to her campaign?

Something stinks here.

The Hsu, The Bagmen, and the Ugly.

It's not just Hsu either, there's a history of criminal immigrant donors in Hillary's wake: Hsu, Chatwal, Rehman... and the "support" given by questionable businessman Vinod Gupta of InfoUSA, the company that passed out the scam lists to the con artists.

This is interesting.

I was actually on Malkin's site yesterday, and then started pursuing this myself.

Went to the website metioned, as well as others.

Also looking at some guy Martinez who was a mayor in Florida now handling some of the campaign affairs.

I planned on sending this in to LGF, but did not think it would really get any traction.

Thanks for posting this Charles, in my opinion, this is only going to become a bigger problem for the Senator.

To recap the posting that vanished:

My bet is that there is a common denominator through the Clintons' money shenanigans: the overseas Chinese. Eventually every strand leads back to China by way of an overseas Chinese family or clan.

I also believe that the publication of Craig's bathroom folly was released at the exact moment Hilary's problems with Hsu came to light in order to distract from Hsu.

As for the Clintons' financial ties to China being exposed: In your dreams! Even if you had a video of Slick Willie handing weapons systems plans to the Chinese military and receiving a fat check in return, the Dems will not see it. "None is so blind as he who will not see." The Dems are so in love with their vision of a socialist utopia, they are incapable of seeing any flaws in that vision's flag bearers.

re: #24 Dianna

I don't deny that the Paws are pawns, but determining the money trail deals squarely with them - and would prove to be a crucial part of unravelling the situation.

Oh, and California refused to grant Hsu bail. He'll be spending time in jail awaiting sentencing on his earlier charges while awaiting trial on the new ones from coast to coast.

Flip's analysis is excellent, but it may benefit from temporarily ignoring the obvious dependent variable - that the recipients were almost exclusively Democrats - and considering one possible independent variable - the presence of "progressive" political forces and personalities. This should make the linkages stand out a bit more...

To wit:

- The New School was founded by an heiress and fleshed out by exiled European radical intellectuals and has the stated goal to turn out "progressive" students who will bring "progressive change" to the world.

- Hilary's protege relationship to radical Saul Alinsky is well known. How many of the other high-end recipients have linkages to radical pasts or "progressive" boosters or causes?

- Hsu's NY business partners themselves started of in radical circles; What of their current political bedfellows?

Once you pick up the radical ("progressive") politics angle, the Ponzi scheme makes less sense and the China angle makes more sense...birds of a feather and all. The CPUSA was the direct beneficiary of KGB largess for half a century. The Clintons have been the recipients of questionable overseas cash before. The number of businesses tied to this which would also be doing business with China would make for perfect covers for large cash transactions.

IMHO, this is but a tiny front in an ongoing saga; the century-plus old effort of well-funded radical elites who seek to fundamentally alter that which our founding fathers left to us. My sense is that there is no end to this story.

Keep up the great work, Flip!

Hillary also told a reporter that she was not a lesbian.
On another note, Bill said "That's news to me."

re: #47 He's dead, Jim
I was wondering earlier if a Ponzi scheme is a great way to collect cash without leaving an international money transfer trail. In theory, all domestic money, from suckers, but 100% manipulated by foreign interests to illegally buy political swing.
Cheap plan, cash-flow-wise. No messy international transfers traceable form one bank to another. All ChiComs needed to fund initially was the "facilitator" who could do the necessary con jobs to start the money rolling in, then funnel it to preferred customer.

Wow. Linked to Flip's site. Great stuff. Am very very happy to see some serious and very competent beavers throughout the blogsphere are working on this.

Unfortunately, it's frightening. Just see the example of Zimbabwe and Venezuela - two healthy countries brought to ruin by communist totalitarian dictators - how fast they dismantled the democratic structures, once elected into power. Civilization does not come naturally - it must be built and then protected!

Hillary Clinton wants to become president, based on her experience as the WIFE of a president. If elected, her husband is back in the White House with her - an awkward Constitutional situation if there ever was, and all their network is set back into place, with intentions to stay for the long haul. The stresses would be horrific.

re: #50 wanumba

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Hillary Clinton wants to become president, based on her experience as the WIFE of a president. If elected, her husband is back in the White House with her - an awkward Constitutional situation if there ever was, and all their network is set back into place, with intentions to stay for the long haul. The stresses would be horrific.

Funny...I seem to recall the Left hollaring something about the damage a "Bush Dynasty" would do to the country....Amazing how they complain that someone else is doing exactly what they are, but in their case...it's for our good...for they know best...just like hugo did/does

re: #51 Curt
Exactly. They always project their schemes onto the opposition and spend their time berating everyone else for the "sins" they indulge in.

re: #49 wanumba

While I agree that is a plausible way to fund an influence fund, I'm not buying it. A Ponzi scheme doesn't make good long-term sense...people get wise and complaints get filed...this is what Hsu got into trouble with previously, IIRC. More likely they picked Hsu because of his previous run-ins with this type of crime; much easier then to convince the public that his current dealings are the same when it's fall-guy time.

The business connections scream out for more thorough investigation, because this is a perfect way in which to clandestinely channel or launder funds. In particular, channeling funds should be fairly straightforward; the overseas end of the supply chain uses heavily discounted or subsidized manufacturing or materials funded in turn by a foreign government, and the US manufacturer or distributor in turn reaps a greater profit. Input at one end of the manufacturing process is output at the other. No scrutiny from the Treasury (large transactions get reported), the FEC (foreign gov't agent registry), no linkage in any direct way to a foreign government.

Way more here than meets the eye.