Another example, here.

Did he win ?

I think all the lizards are back on the last thread still waiting for Tammy to say somethin'.

Heil Alfred Nobel!

A long tradition... of dumbass decisions.

Well the fact that Jimmah The Dimmah and Arafish won it, says lots about the credibility of that prize.

Is it really so hard for people to differentiate good from evil? Time and the Nobel prize committee (and Columbia University, the MSM, etc.) seem only to focus on the "great" part of these men and not the "-ly evil" bit. It's amazing the places you end up without a moral compass...

This is dynamite!

seems logical to me

Don't forget Mussolini.

Charles,

Worth a note: Erik Brandt made the nomination to point a the absurdity of the genuine nomination by some of his colleagues of Neville Chamberlain.

It was a protest.

That makes sense.

If I had known that when Arafat got his Nobel Peace Prize, I wouldn't have been so surprised.

Quit stallin'! Nominate your genocidal madman today!

In 1939? This defies belief. It must have been Scandinavian Nazi sympathizers. By 1939, there was no doubt at all about what Hitler was all about and what his intentions were. In fairness, though, anyone solicited of note can nominate someone for a Nobel Prize. Nomination is different from selection. Still...

The Nobel Prize for Peace should be abolished. There is no objective way to determine whether someone has had an impact on global peace except, as is the case with science, a dozen or more years after the fact. With a few exceptions of clearly ground-breaking and influential discoveries, the Nobel Prizes in science have been awarded to people well after they made their Nobel-worthy discoveries. The Peace Prize is different. It is given to those who are politically in favor with the Nobel committee.

A call to appear in Stockholm should only be given to those who have at least a little bit of history between their actions and their award to give some time to see if their actions really had an impact.

Arafat got a Nobel Peace Prize, and Hitler was nominated for one. The Nobel Peace Prize devalues the importance of the other Nobel Prizes, that by and large, with the exception of the occasional silly Literature prize, have gone to the richly deserving. In the sciences, I would say that almost everyone who got a Nobel Prize deserved it, and the problem is the converse to that for the Peace Prize: a considerable number of people who deserved it did not get it (not because someone else got it who didn't merit it but because it only comes around once a year and there are more deserving scientists than that).

The Nobel should be for science achievements only, and even then only a dozen or more years after the discoveries for which the Nobel is awarded, to make sure the discoveries really are that important and influential.

Nobel Peace Prize? What a piece of crap.

re: #14 WimbledonWomble

In 1939? This defies belief. It must have been Scandinavian Nazi sympathizers.

Quite the opposite. See post 11.

re: #11 Cognito

cognito, do you know anything about the nominations of Mussolini (1935) and Stalin (1945)?

re: #16 squarepeg

re: #11 Cognito

cognito, do you know anything about the nominations of Mussolini (1935) and Stalin (1945)?

No, except reading that they were made. But a Nobel nomination doesn't amount to much -- it's just one guy standing up and saying, "I nominate so-and-so."

Obviously they didn't win the Prize.

Although, for the record, I find the Nobel people highly annoying.

re: #2 ted

Did he win ?

Of course not. The Zionist conspiracy would never have allowed it.

/

So, ShortShit will be nominated soon?

Nominee:
Name: Adolf Hitler
Gender: M
Year, birth: 1889
Year, death: 1945
Profession/Category: Chancellor and Führer of Germany (1933-1945).
City: Berlin
Country: DE (GERMANY)

Motivation: Hitler was the leader of the German Nationalist Socialist Party.

Hey leftists - Hitler was one of you.

Anybody can be nominated. Look at that guy on death row who was executed, forget his name. Just last year. I say we nominate Santa.

re: #19 MandyManners

I'm tired of "ShortShit." Alliteration can be tiring.

I'll go for "FuckingRunt" for assonance.

re: #21 meMarc

Anybody can be nominated. Look at that guy on death row who was executed, forget his name. Just last year. I say we nominate Santa.

That was sorta the point of the Hitler nomination. It was intended to point out the absurdity of the whole process. A protest nomination.

Yes, anyone can be nominated. And it speaks volumes about the Prize to see who IS nominated.

And who wins.

re: #19 MandyManners

I'm sure you're right.

It was a "protest nomination," Cognito, because the corrupt nature of this prize was evident even then.

re: #23 Cognito

re: #21 meMarc

Anybody can be nominated. Look at that guy on death row who was executed, forget his name. Just last year. I say we nominate Santa.

That was sorta the point of the Hitler nomination. It was intended to point out the absurdity of the whole process. A protest nomination.

Got proof of that?

Have you read the thread below about Harvard?

(Why do I even try?)

From the nobelprize.org web site:

Nomination to the Nobel Peace Prize is by invitation only. The Nobel Committee sends confidential forms to persons who are competent and qualified to nominate. The names of the nominees and other information about the nominations cannot be revealed until 50 years later.

How's that for an open process.

re: #23 Cognito

Funny, you make a protest nomination like that nowadays and . . . people take it seriously.

re: #26 Charles

It was a "protest nomination," Cognito, because the corrupt nature of this prize was evident even then.

Right. Which is why I said, "It was intended to point out the absurdity of the whole process."

re: #27 MandyManners

re: #23 Cognito

re: #21 meMarc

Anybody can be nominated. Look at that guy on death row who was executed, forget his name. Just last year. I say we nominate Santa.

That was sorta the point of the Hitler nomination. It was intended to point out the absurdity of the whole process. A protest nomination.

Got proof of that?

Have you read the thread below about Harvard?

(Why do I even try?)

The tiniest amount of research would confirm that, for you.

The Nobel peace prize is obsolete and irrelevant. Who cares who gets it nowadays anyway?

Anybody could win the Nobel Prize. I bet if some idiot nominated, say, Jimmy Carter, hell, he'd probably win.

re: #20 FrogMarch

Nominee:
Name: Adolf Hitler
Gender: M
Year, birth: 1889
Year, death: 1945
Profession/Category: Chancellor and Führer of Germany (1933-1945).
City: Berlin
Country: DE (GERMANY)

Motivation: Hitler was the leader of the German Nationalist Socialist Party.

Hey leftists - Hitler was one of you.

I read a real good article the other day, linked from here, don't remember who. Maybe it was even you, dunno. Anyway, there are some links at the left of the page that provide some detailed reading, fleshing out what you said.

On the first ballot, "Mr. T" was elected our high school class president.

/Just throwin' it out there

A bit more information, should anyone care:

The right to submit proposals for the Nobel Peace Prize shall, by statute, be enjoyed by:

1. Members of national assemblies and governments of states;
2. Members of international courts;
3. University rectors; professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes;
4. Persons who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
5. Board members of organizations who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
6. Active and former members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee; (proposals by members of the Committee to be submitted no later than at the first meeting of the Committee after February 1) and
7. Former advisers appointed by the Norwegian Nobel Institute.

No wonder the awardees are such a motley bunch.

Nomination to the Nobel Peace Prize is by invitation only. The Nobel Committee sends confidential forms to persons who are competent and qualified to nominate.

Well, who 'nominates' them? Creepy freaks in that group, no doubt.

Cognito. Question here. you do have a Phd? You sure sound like it!

I'll bet Alfred Nobel is spinning in his grave at about 1,000,000 RPM!

re: #36 Opilio

College philosophy profs can submit nominations?

How many times has the guy who invented the bong won?

re: #11 Cognito

Worth a note: Erik Brandt made the nomination to point a the absurdity of the genuine nomination by some of his colleagues of Neville Chamberlain.

It was a protest.

How could it have been a protest when Hitler's name was the FIRST name nominated?

re: #15 Cognito

re: #14 WimbledonWomble

In 1939? This defies belief. It must have been Scandinavian Nazi sympathizers.

Quite the opposite. See post 11.

It just goes to show that a "nomination" means nothing. The problem beyond that with the Nobel Peace Prize is that the committee making the decision can go off of political or otherwise arbitrary criteria for elevating a nominee to an awardee. This is not difficult to do with science Nobel Prizes, where the actual impact of the discovery needs to be assessed and can be objectively. Moreover, there is more responsible behavior in awarding science Nobel Prizes, as often a dozen or more years passes between the Nobel-worthy discovery (or series of discoveries) and the prize being awarded. With the Peace Prize, it is often given shortly after some "event" on the basis of political concerns or at least as a kind of encouragement with the expectation of future movement in a peaceful direction. That's why the great pioneer of modern terrorism who didn't have a peaceful bone in him, Yasser Arafat, got one.

Like the science Nobels, the Peace Prize should only be given many years after the fact, when the "peacefulness" and importance of the "contribution" can be assessed objectively. In Arafat's case, it should have never been given obviously.

mark levin nominated rush, i can't beleive he didn';t win. (lol)

What did Hitler get nominated for? Making the trains run on time?
If we executed Amtrak Engineers for being late, Amtrak would be on time too.

re: #41 6pat6

re: #11 Cognito

Worth a note: Erik Brandt made the nomination to point a the absurdity of the genuine nomination by some of his colleagues of Neville Chamberlain.

It was a protest.

How could it have been a protest when Hitler's name was the FIRST name nominated?

It was a protest to point out the absurdity of the entire Prize, following the nomination of Neville Chamberlain.

Year: 1939
Number: 9-1

Nominee:
Name: Adolf Hitler
Gender: M
Year, birth: 1889
Year, death: 1945
Profession/Category: Chancellor and Führer of Germany (1933-1945).
City: Berlin
Country: DE (GERMANY)

Motivation: Hitler was the leader of the German Nationalist Socialist Party.

re: #38 Bob the Scot

Cognito. Question here. you do have a Phd? You sure sound like it!

No. Far from it.

Tookie Williams: Gang Founder Versus Nobel-Nominated Peacemaker

Since his conviction, Williams has written nine books warning children and teenagers about the dangers of gang life. He's been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize five times and for the Nobel Prize for literature once.

I rest my case.

Cog, you're missing the point. Hitler's name was the FIRST one nominated, How could it be a protest to Chamberlain's nomination if it had yet to be made?

re: #49 6pat6

Cog, you're missing the point. Hitler's name was the FIRST one nominated, How could it be a protest to Chamberlain's nomination if it had yet to be made?

No, sorry, I'm not missing anything. Chamberlain was nominated that year by several of Brandt's colleagues at the Swedish Parliament. He nominated Hitler to point out the ridiculousness of the whole idea.

Maybe 6pat6 can explain what i meant

Cog. you are so wrapped up in minsuca, you have lost track of right and wrong

re: #52 Bob the Scot

Cog. you are so wrapped up in minsuca, you have lost track of right and wrong

Please enlighten me.

What have I got wrong, here?

Fuzzy Math?

Thinking that leads to a outcome you like?

Shapeing the world to the one you want?

Reading the news that you like, not all of it?

Charles is going to ban me lol

Bob...

I haven't got the faintest clue what you're talking about (in serial form) or how it relates to Hitler's Nobel nomination.

You wouldnt

try Hitler

this is the kind of jet - a smallish one for regional hops - which was ion a few years back when about 8 muslim men were acting so weird (the whole seat changing eye signaling thing) that i deplaned.

from cincy to newark

they were testing. do a dry run.

i took the next plane out.

we flew over 3mile island.

just saying...

My "top" ten eight Nobel Peace Prize winners:

2005 - IAEA / Mohamed ElBaradei
2002 - Jimmy Carter
2001 - UN / Koffi Annan
1994 - Yasser Arafat, et al.
1990 - Mikhail Gorbachev
1988 - UN Peacekeeping forces
1977 - Amnesty International
1973 - Le Duc Tho

re: #63 Opilio

My "top" ten eight Nobel Peace Prize winners:

2005 - IAEA / Mohamed ElBaradei
2002 - Jimmy Carter
2001 - UN / Koffi Annan
1994 - Yasser Arafat, et al.
1990 - Mikhail Gorbachev
1988 - UN Peacekeeping forces
1977 - Amnesty International
1973 - Le Duc Tho

Now that's a good criticism.

re: #26 Charles

No different than the NY Times' Duranty winning a Pulitzer for his coverage of the Soviet Union in the 1930's.

Down in hell, Arafat gives Hitler his ration of shit everyday, because Arafat got one and Hitler didn't.

Does anyone here understand what Cog is trying to say?

re: #41 6pat6

6pat6, I'm missing something. Where does it say that Hitler's was the first name submitted? I don't know what the "number" entry means, or what "9-1" means.

I wish I knew of this a few years ago. I used to argue with this one leftest idiot whose only information on Arafat was that he won the Noble Peace Prize. This would have been great to throw in his face.

re: #67 Bob the Scot

Does anyone here understand what Cog is trying to say?

I think it was pretty darn clear. I just pointed out that the Hitler nomination was made in protest, following the nomination of Neville Chamberlain. It poked fun at the whole idea of the Prize.

Not exactly rocket science.

You figured that out? Hitler was bad?

And I'm trying to figure out what 6pat6's evidence is that Hitler's was the first name submitted for the 1939 prize. This stuff interests me.

Square. they thought Hitler was going to save Germany

re: #71 Bob the Scot

You figured that out? Hitler was bad?

and then,

Square. they thought Hitler was going to save German

Bob, I'm seriously starting to wonder... Are you... Do you understand what I mean, about a protest nomination?

Wrong person Cog . i was a math major

re: #75 Bob the Scot

Wrong person Cog . i was a math major

Bob... we're not talking lofty concepts, here.

You okay?

I may be Banned when Charles reads this thread, lol

But not his fault, i am a newbie

re: #77 Bob the Scot

I hope not! I'm having fun with you.

/little did you know

Weren't the Nazis the National Socialist German Workers' Party (NSDAP), just to perfect the leftist meme?

Cog, you idea of lofty isnt the same as mine, you will have too quote your
betters you havent done that

start by correcting the spelling

Squarepeg. i am a idiot!

Cog. where are you?

There's a new thread up if you all care to continue your duel there, although it seems to be big news.

Re: Bob the Scot

That's one of the finest examples of the cumulative effects of alcohol and/or chemical enhancements that I've witnessed in quite some time.

re: #86 mike(in)savage

Precisely why I'd rather stay down here than bone up on some papal bull.

Don't forget that Adolf Hitler was TIME Magazine's Man of the Year in 1938!

To be fair, the nominator withdrew the nomination in February, 1939.

Still the overall history of the Peace Prize has shown what a joke it is.

Ok, just to make sure it is clear:

Adolph Hitler's nomination was not meant to be serious. It was NOT a sign that the peace prize was corrupt even back then. What happened was, to quote Wikipedia (which *IS* more often than not accurate on most matters):

When the past nominations were released it was discovered that Adolf Hitler was nominated in 1939 by Erik Brandt, a member of the Swedish Parliament. Brandt's intention was primarily to protest against the nomination of Neville Chamberlain by twelve of his colleagues. The tone of the nomination letter was ironic, even sarcastic. Its publication caused an uproar in the Swedish press as some newspapers initially failed to recognize the irony, while others thought it highly inappropriate to mock Hitler and make fun of the Nobel Peace Prize. Brandt retracted the nomination after a few days.

(ref: Richardson, Gunnar, Förtroligt and hemligt : kunglig utrikespolitik och svensk neutralitet under andra världskriget. Stockholm : Carlsson, 2007)

The Neville Chamberlain nomination that was the target of the protest.

There were 9 other separate Neville Chamberlain nominations that year.

List

Silly me! and I thought it was a serious award up until they gave it to Carturd and Airafart.

Just for the hell of it, I typed in the name of the Grand mufti of Jerusalem and was surprised he was never nominated. That was the shocking part.

Nothing else surprises me anymore.

Winner of nobel peace prize ...Yassir Arafat

An old Israeli Joke:
I nominate Madonna for the Nobel Prize in Physics.
Motivation: Madonna is worthy of the Physics prize at least as much as Arafat/Carter is worthy of the Peace Prize.

re: #86 mike(in)savage

Re: Bob the Scot

That's one of the finest examples of the cumulative effects of alcohol and/or chemical enhancements that I've witnessed in quite some time.

That's exactly what I was thinking. Bob was making me dizzy there and not making much sense.

Petty stereotyping. Who would accuse a "Scot" of being under the influence. For shame!

Further evidence, if needed, of the absurdity of the Peace Prize is the nomination of Josef Stalin in 1945.

Yes, it's true.

This should remind us that after any struggle peace is possible by either of two alternatives-- victory or surrender.
If the British had submitted after June 40 europe would have been very much at peace-- in that case a wholly undesireable situation.

This nomination was never seriously intended. He who sent it in was a swarn anti-nazi. The reason he did it was that he thought that the nomination of Chamberlin was just to outrageous.