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-RetweetUpdate: 'Terrorist Threat' at Raleigh-Durham Airport (FBI: 'Misperceived')

Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 9:43:19 pm PDT

Annie Jacobsen interviewed a spokeswoman for Raleigh-Durham Airport about the “terrorist threat” incident today (totally ignored by mainstream media so far): “Terrorist Threat” at Raleigh-Durham Airport.

Two airline passengers were arrested at Raleigh-Durham International Airport earlier tonight after causing what airport spokeswoman Colleen Fischvogt has just confirmed with me was a “serious incident on American Eagle Flight 518 from Jacksonville.” Local news station WRAL reports, “the disturbance was classified as a terrorist threat.”

In a telephone interview, Fischvogt also told me, “we received word from the pilot about the suspicious activity before the flight landed.” Fischvogt explained that when Flight 518 landed, it sat on the tarmac for 45 minutes before FBI “took jurisdiction,” boarded the plane and arrested two people. DHS and local law enforcement were also present on the tarmac but “FBI took over the sight and the situation,” Fischvogt said.

“Wait a minute,” I asked, “The passengers were stuck inside the plane with two bad guys for 45 minutes before law enforcement boarded the aircraft?” I wanted to make sure I heard Fischvogt correctly.

“Yes,” Fischvogt confirmed.

Consider the agencies present 24/7 at the federalized Raleigh-Durham International Airport: FBI, DHS, (TSA & Federal Air Marshal Service), Joint Terrorism Task Force, ICE (Immigrations and Customs Enforcement) and airport police. And yet it took seven law enforcement agencies some forty-five minutes to put a single officer on the plane to counter the threat and secure the plane?

My analysis is that the delay was caused by FBI and DHS fighting over who had jurisdiction; protocol over ‘acts of air piracy’ are a constant source of bickering between the two agencies and have been the subject of at least one DHS Inspector General’s Report. But what were the passengers doing, I asked Fischvogt?

“Using their cell phones to call people in the terminals and call the news media,” Fischvogt said.

I asked Fischvogt the ethnicity of the two passengers who were arrested: “one report says ‘of Middle Eastern descent’ but I personally can not confirm that,” she said.

UPDATE at 9/22/07 8:56:02 am:

FBI: Incident on Flight to RDU Posed No Threat.

Morrisville — The FBI early Saturday said a misunderstanding apparently sparked an incident on a flight from Florida that Raleigh-Durhuam International Airport officials initially classified as a possible terrorist incident.

FBI agents determined that a “misperception” caused the alert and said there was never any threat to passengers or crew members.

American Eagle Flight 4518 left from Jacksonville, Fla., at 7:10 p.m. for Raleigh. “Approximately 30 minutes prior to landing, a flight attendant observed suspicious activity by two of the passengers and reported this activity accordingly,” the FBI said in a statement. ...

“Subsequent investigation, including interviews with those aboard the aircraft and a search of the airplane, has determined there was never any apparent threat or danger to the passengers or crew, and the observed activity was apparently misperceived,” agents added.

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1 pat  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:45:56pm

Whoa!

2 mikeysdca  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:46:18pm

Oh no, they were Tibetan Buddhists.

3 pat  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:46:42pm

Muslims Misbehaving. If only I could discern the pattern.

4 breezecj  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:46:45pm

Where is the national newsmedia on this story?

5 lowandslow  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:47:02pm
My analysis is that the delay was caused by FBI and DHS fighting over who had jurisdiction


Unbelievable.

6 zionausi  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:49:17pm

Another day, another islamist terror attack...

7 lowandslow  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:49:33pm

If this is true heads should roll at both the FBI and DHS. These are people who have sworn to protect us and their infighting could have gotten people killed.

8 Cognito  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:50:00pm
Annie Jacobsen interviewed a spokeswoman for Raleigh-Durham Airport about the “terrorist threat” incident today (totally ignored by mainstream media):

Geez, man. It just happened tonight, and the TV stations are all over it... How short should the news cycle be?

9 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:51:14pm

Did they ask for seatbelt extenders?

Damn incompetent Feds! This one's on you, Chertoff Jerkoff.

10 Annelid[deleted]  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:51:26pm
11 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:51:57pm

It's Cognito, to the rescue!

/of the msm

12 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:52:25pm

CAIR to claim islamophobia in 3...2...

13 Reev  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:52:58pm

Move along nothing to see here, there is no threat from the Muslim world, you are just a bunch of racists.

14 toni_in_ny  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:54:00pm
I asked Fischvogt the ethnicity of the two passengers who were arrested: “one report says ‘of Middle Eastern descent’ but I personally can not confirm that,” she said

NO Really? I woulda thought it was those Episcopalians again.

15 Cognito  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:55:27pm

No. 11 Ward,

Just being honest, man.

Feel free to correct me, if I'm wrong...

16 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:55:42pm
protocol over ‘acts of air piracy’ are a constant source of bickering between the two agencies and have been the subject of at least one DHS Inspector General’s Report.

Comforting...

17 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:56:34pm

re: #8 Cognito

Annie Jacobsen interviewed a spokeswoman for Raleigh-Durham Airport about the “terrorist threat” incident today (totally ignored by mainstream media):

Geez, man. It just happened tonight, and the TV stations are all over it... How short should the news cycle be?

We have it here.

'nuff said?

18 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:57:45pm

Well, the good news, a 30 passenger turbo-prop might be able to cause a big enough fire to take down the largest buildings in JAX, CLT or RDU, but the largest buildings in ATL and MIA probably would have survived.

/so wrong.

19 Cognito  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:57:57pm

re: #17 Noam Sayin'

re: #8 Cognito

Annie Jacobsen interviewed a spokeswoman for Raleigh-Durham Airport about the “terrorist threat” incident today (totally ignored by mainstream media):
Geez, man. It just happened tonight, and the TV stations are all over it... How short should the news cycle be?
We have it here.

'nuff said?

Right... "We" broke the news? Or did it come from an NC television station?

20 Hawaiian cocoNUT  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:58:36pm

And this is only Ramadan's 2nd Friday...

21 ornery elephant  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:59:06pm

I'm afraid we live in a time when a hunting accident in Texas dominates the MSM for three weeks while a terrorist arrested in South Carolina with a trunkfull of bomb making materials is only mentioned on the blogs.

22 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:59:28pm

Big story on CNN is Barry Bonds, Sensei of the Human Growth Hormone, is leaving SF.


Not a word on this.

Just checked.

23 Clemente  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:59:37pm

12 hour rule?

But still, it does look like trouble...

24 Abu Maven  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 9:59:45pm

Probably just Zionists trying to make Islam look bad.

25 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:00:30pm

re: #19 Cognito

re: #17 Noam Sayin'

re: #8 Cognito

Annie Jacobsen interviewed a spokeswoman for Raleigh-Durham Airport about the “terrorist threat” incident today (totally ignored by mainstream media):

Geez, man. It just happened tonight, and the TV stations are all over it... How short should the news cycle be?

We have it here.'nuff said?

Right... "We" broke the news? Or did it come from an NC television station?

My fucking point, asshole, is that it's now in print and being commented on in the blogosphere. You think that a fucking news organization could possibly contribute a few bytes to the issue? Maybe a Breaking News banner at the top of their site?

26 nyc redneck  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:00:39pm

isn't this kind of thing always a moslem? when is it not motivated by islam? it's difficult to keep being open minded. we joke abt. it being a baptist, or hindu or jew but that never quite happens. when will it NOT be a moslem?

27 squarepeg  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:00:42pm

The passengers were "Using their cell phones to call people in the terminals and call the news media"? Why don't we know yet exactly what the threat was? Or do we? This kills me when they tell you everything except what happened.

28 Cognito  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:01:50pm

re: #25 Noam Sayin'

re: #19 Cognito

re: #17 Noam Sayin'
re: #8 Cognito
Annie Jacobsen interviewed a spokeswoman for Raleigh-Durham Airport about the “terrorist threat” incident today (totally ignored by mainstream media):
Geez, man. It just happened tonight, and the TV stations are all over it... How short should the news cycle be?
We have it here.'nuff said?
Right... "We" broke the news? Or did it come from an NC television station?
My fucking point, asshole, is that it's now in print and being commented on in the blogosphere. You think that a fucking news organization could possibly contribute a few bytes to the issue? Maybe a Breaking News banner at the top of their site?

Relax.

And in the meantime, check out Fox News.

29 Afterimage  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:02:05pm

If those passengers were stranded for 45 minutes heads should roll at the agancies responsible.

30 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:02:20pm
“one report says ‘of Middle Eastern descent’ but I personally can not confirm that,” she said.

Racist!

31 PIERRE_LEGRAND[deleted]  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:03:33pm
32 Ron_W  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:03:47pm

Must be artists.

33 Canadian Guy  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:04:55pm

TSA's Statement on American Eagle Flight to Raleigh-Durham International Airport
News & Happenings


American Eagle flight 4518 departed Jacksonville, Fla enroute to Raleigh-Durham International Airport at 7:10 p.m. Approximately 30 minutes prior to landing, a flight attendant onboard observed a passenger acting suspiciously.
Upon landing at approximately 8:40 p.m., the aircraft taxied to a remote location of the airfield where local and federal law enforcement responded. At approximately 9:45 p.m. passengers were evacuated from the aircraft and are now being transported from the area via bus. FBI is leading the law enforcement response to the incident.

This statement will be updated as more information becomes available.

34 neverquit  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:05:34pm

Let's not lose sight of the fact that no one got killed.

35 Cornholio  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:05:51pm

re: #29 Afterimage

If those passengers were stranded for 45 minutes heads should roll at the agancies responsible.

I'd be steamed if my family were trapped for 45 minutes inside a plane with two terrorists. While the cops at the airport just sat around. But nobody cares about the 45 passengers. The authorities just want the plane on the ground so the terrorists don't crash the plane into a building.

Face it, if you're onboard an airplane which is hijacked like on 9/11, our own Air Force will shoot it down, killing all passengers aboard.

36 Joan Not of Arc  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:06:04pm

If I may share something.
I was en route from Korea to Canada when- after a spate of turbulence- lights blinked on and off and an announcement declaring it was not only illegal to smoke on an aircraft but to disable the smoke alarm was aired. Some idiot decided to smoke and disable the smoke alarm in one of the washrooms. When we finally landed (the flight itself was delayed), everyone was detained so that the guilty party could be removed from the aircraft and questioned by the police. This took ten minutes.
Ten minutes.
It took forty five minutes to deal with these guys? What could the reason be? Didn't the TV cameras arrive on time?

37 xenophobic  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:06:21pm

Not to cause a stir but every time I hear of the DHS inability to do it's job I wonder if we didn't make a big mistake in rolling in already ineffective and overly bureaucratic departments into a slow moving super SLUG of an agency. They still have all the downfalls of the individual agencies, but now with 104 levels of paperwork in between.

38 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:06:51pm

re: #28 Cognito

Great. Fox has it.

Check out CNN

Check out ABC

Check out CBS

Check out NBS ---> MSNBC

Whose top story is:

Collecting of details on travelers documented
Gathering of personal information violates Privacy Act, activists contend

39 Mich-again  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:07:24pm

re: #35 Cornholio

re: #29 Afterimage

If those passengers were stranded for 45 minutes heads should roll at the agancies responsible.

...Face it, if you're onboard an airplane which is hijacked like on 9/11, our own Air Force will shoot it down, killing all passengers aboard.

Stupid Post Alert !

40 Mich-again  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:08:06pm

re: #34 neverquit

Let's not lose sight of the fact that no one got killed.

Yes.

41 Clemente  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:09:34pm

re: #28 Cognito

And in the meantime, check out Fox News.

Yup. Fox is earning their keep, better than the rest, as usual...

Way OT - And I also found this:

Iowa Family Finds Snake Head in Can of Beans

Yeah, I'm a sucker for this kind o' crap!

42 tradewind  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:09:44pm
I asked Fischvogt the ethnicity of the two passengers who were arrested: “one report says ‘of Middle Eastern descent’ but I personally can not confirm that,” she said.


Get with the program, Ms Fishvote: it's ' Asian'. From now on, any Muslim-appearing passengers will be lumped into the vague category of ' Asian', a' la Brits. It's like a nudge...we get it, but they're not Singled Out.

43 Vinegar Joe  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:09:58pm

I figure the "authorities" were too busy confiscating tubes of toothpaste and strip searching 70 year old grandmas.

44 cbinflux  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:11:05pm

re: #33 Canadian Guy

Why do cops always hype their response time?!

45 Cognito  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:12:16pm

re: #38 Noam Sayin'

There are a number of stories about the incident online, already, hours after it happened.

You can wait just a little while, and read even more stories about it.

And then even more.

Or you can go on ranting about the media, which bears exactly zero responsibility for what's happening in North Carolina.

46 rtheyserius  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:13:12pm
‘of Middle Eastern descent’

Boy is that puzzling. I wonder who it could be. Jews? Nah. Christians? Nah. Welp, there it is. I'm stumped.

47 Canadian Guy  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:14:17pm

re: #41 Clemente

re: #28 Cognito

And in the meantime, check out Fox News.

Yup. Fox is earning their keep, better than the rest, as usual...

Actually the story on the Fox site is an AP wire story, so there's no excuse for the other big sites not having it.

48 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:14:30pm

re: #45 Cognito

Or you can go on ranting about the media, which bears exactly zero responsibility for what's happening in North Carolina.

Again- so disingenuous. Where did Noam say the msm was responsible for what is happening?

49 tradewind  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:14:56pm

re: #39 Mich-again

...Face it, if you're onboard an airplane which is hijacked like on 9/11


You won't be.
Not like that.
The game has changed, and no plane load of passengers is ever again sitting around while [bigoted word]s scamper around a cabin with knives slitting throats. Not to mention the crew's revamp.

50 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:15:40pm

re: #35 Cornholio

Face it, if you're onboard an airplane which is hijacked like on 9/11, our own Air Force will shoot it down, killing all passengers aboard.

Methinks you got some 'splainin' to do with that one...

51 Cognito  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:15:44pm

re: #48 Sharmuta

re: #45 Cognito

Or you can go on ranting about the media, which bears exactly zero responsibility for what's happening in North Carolina.
Again- so disingenuous. Where did Noam say the msm was responsible for what is happening?

He didn't, Sharmuta. I mentioned it as a point of perspective.

You crack me up.

52 jonturner  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:17:28pm

re: #36 Joan Not of Arc

It took forty five minutes to deal with these guys? What could the reason be? Didn't the TV cameras arrive on time?

Maybe they needed time to to ask Mike Nifong what he'd do... so they could then do the opposite.

53 Canadian Guy  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:18:21pm

CAIR press release coming in 5, 4, 3 ...

FBI: No threat on plane that landed at RDU

Associated PressAdvertisement
A federal investigation determined there was no threat aboard an American Eagle flight on which a flight attendant reported that two passengers were acting suspiciously, an FBI spokesman said early Saturday

The FBI searched the plane and interviewed the 27 passengers and three crew members aboard American Eagle Flight 4518 from Jackonsville, Fla., and determined "the observed activity was misperceived," FBI spokesman Newsom Summerlin in Charlotte said.

He would not comment on what the flight attendant thought she saw.

No one was arrested, he said.

Flight 4518 left Jackonsville, Fla., about 7:10 p.m. The report of suspicious activity occurred about 30 minutes before the plane landed at 8:40 p.m. in a remote area of the airport, Summerlin said.

Passengers were taken by bus from that location to a terminal about 9:45 p.m., the Transportation Security Administration said.

54 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:19:18pm

re: #51 Cognito

I mentioned it as a point of perspective.

Ah, okay- pretty stupid perspective.

/And I'll be here all week. Please tip your server, folks!

55 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:19:44pm

re: #45 Cognito

Once again, as usual, you've ignored my point yet offered some bullshit answer just for the attention. Good luck with your psychotherapy. once you've recognized you're a narcissist. Meanwhile, I'll try to decide whether I'll be compassionate and ignore you henceforth, or damage you further by continually engaging your petty little fantasies. For the meantime, fuck off.

56 Cognito  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:20:11pm

re: #54 Sharmuta

re: #51 Cognito

I mentioned it as a point of perspective.
Ah, okay- pretty stupid perspective.

/And I'll be here all week. Please tip your server, folks!

So clever!

57 Cognito  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:20:29pm

re: #55 Noam Sayin'

re: #45 Cognito

Once again, as usual, you've ignored my point yet offered some bullshit answer just for the attention. Good luck with your psychotherapy. once you've recognized you're a narcissist. Meanwhile, I'll try to decide whether I'll be compassionate and ignore you henceforth, or damage you further by continually engaging your petty little fantasies. For the meantime, fuck off.

ok

58 lowandslow  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:20:41pm

re: #51 Cognito

You crack me up.

And that's all this is for you isn't it, a place you can be a contrarian just for your amusement. That routine grow old for us about 6 months ago.

59 tradewind  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:21:15pm

re: #35 Cornholio

The authorities just want the plane on the ground so the terrorists don't crash the plane into a building


And that (above) is just wrong because...?
Thought so.

60 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:21:33pm

re: #55 Noam Sayin'

DING DING DING!

/My GAZE mode has been on and off- think I'll leave it on off for the rest of the night.

61 Catttt  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:22:36pm

re: #51 Cognito

re: #48 Sharmuta


re: #45 Cognito
Or you can go on ranting about the media, which bears exactly zero responsibility for what's happening in North Carolina.
Again- so disingenuous. Where did Noam say the msm was responsible for what is happening?

He didn't, Sharmuta. I mentioned it as a point of perspective.

You crack me up.

No. You on crack.

62 SeafoodGumbo  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:22:53pm
“serious incident on American Eagle Flight 518 from Jacksonville.”


Jacksonville seems to be in the news for stuff like this lately:
July 11, 2007

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. (AP) — A man was charged with trying to bring a gun wrapped in aluminum foil and a towel aboard a plane at Jacksonville International Airport, authorities said Tuesday.

Ahmad Abdallah Abu Ghanam was on his way to Chicago then Jordan on Monday when Transportation Security Administration workers found the .380-calibar semiautomatic gun in his checked luggage. The serial number had been scratched off, said Michael Stewart, director of external affairs for the airport.


July 2, 2007

An area of about 12 square blocks in downtown Jacksonville was cordoned off by police Sunday after they arrested a man who they said had made a bomb threat.

Police kept the area closed for most of the afternoon while they searched a car for a bomb, eventually concluding there wasn't one, Sheriff John Rutherford said.

The man was identified as Yossef Bouchlarhem, 34, police spokeswoman Lauri-Ellen Smith said. When police first approached him, he was speaking in both English and Arabic and saying "Allah is great," according to the police report.

Bouchlarhem has been charged with resisting police and with making a false report about a weapon of mass destruction, Smith said. Police reportedly searched a residence on Bert Road in connection with the case.

Bouchlarhem remained in custody Sunday night and was to be arraigned today, Smith said.

Police received a call about 11:45 a.m. reporting that "a man was acting strangely and making threats" at the corner of Laura and Forsyth streets, Smith said.

Lester McGriff, who was part of a construction crew working on the Laura Street Trio, a group of historic buildings on Laura Street, said a man was walking back and forth across Laura Street shouting that he was going "to blow up downtown Jacksonville."

63 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:25:47pm
So clever!

Jealousy is unbecoming. So is constant condescension.

64 carbon footprint  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:27:18pm

FoxNews has this story up on their website now. Sorry if I am echoing info.

65 SeafoodGumbo  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:27:21pm

Re Jacksonville, where this plane took off from...

Another curious Jacksonville/Muslim fact is that the Islamic Center of Northeast Florida is right next to an airport. It isn't Jacksonville's main airport, but knowing that the "political wing" of terror groups in America has a place right next to an airport is something I hope the FBI is watching.

The reason that this is disturbing is because the center is associated with CAIR and other terror-supporters:

Up until recently, Shah had made Florida his home. In 1996, he was the Imam of the Islamic Center of Northeast Florida (ICNEF), which is presently the spiritual dwelling of the National Chairman of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), Parvez Ahmed. [CAIR, a group created by a front for Hamas, is currently the defendant in a 9/11 lawsuit for the murder of FBI agent John O'Neill.] From at least May of 1996 through May of 1999, Shah acted as a Director for the Islamic center.
66 Clemente  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:27:24pm

re: #47 Canadian Guy

...there's no excuse for the other big sites not having it.

Aside from my conclusion that, in their "minds" it's excused (like every recent terror-interruptus) from any level of interest, we agree.

When they can make of this a story of bigoted intolerance by Republicans against innocent, peace-loving Islamists, then it'll become news. Big news! If not, it'll get buried like a trunkful of "fireworks".

67 cbinflux  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:28:16pm

Mattel apologises to ‘the Chinese people’

Mattel was forced to deliver a humiliating public apology to “the Chinese people” on Friday over the damaging succession of product recalls of China-made toys that the US toymaker has announced in recent months.

In a carefully stage-managed meeting in Beijing with a senior Chinese official, which, unusually, was open to the media, Thomas Debrowski, Mattel’s executive vice-president for worldwide operations, read out a prepared text that played down the role of Chinese factories in the recalls.

“Mattel takes full responsibility for these recalls and apologises personally to you, the Chinese people, and all of our customers who received the toys,” Mr Debrowski said.

//Pet owners also owe the greedy, communist bastards an apology. NEVER.

68 lowandslow  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:29:46pm

SeafoodGumbo is all over this, nice work.

69 Daryl Herbert  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:29:53pm

Thanks to this update, we know even less than we knew before.

The 24-hour rule is looking better and better...

70 SeafoodGumbo  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:31:35pm

Other Jacksonville/Muslim/terror stories in the news over the summer:

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - The plot never unfolded, but learning that a group of extremist Muslim physicians schemed in 2005 to attack the USS John F. Kennedy and Mayport Naval Station has some people in northeast Florida sitting up and taking notice.

"The fact they're even talking about it gives us concern," Jacksonville Mayor John Peyton said Thursday, the same day that The Telegraph of London reported the Internet-based terror plot against the now-decommissioned aircraft carrier.


link

71 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:33:08pm

re: #68 lowandslow

I concur. Awesome job Seafood!

72 txlady  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:34:46pm

Just a thought... today is Yom Kipur. Has anyone taken note? Islamic important days are the same time, so since they are at their holy times, then wouldn't it make sense that this is when they would show off for their own people?

73 SeafoodGumbo  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:35:45pm

re: #68 lowandslow

re: #71 Sharmuta

Gracias. It was easy because I just copy-n-pasted from comments I made a few months ago. :)

74 Syrah  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:36:36pm

Not what I wanted to hear about while I am packing for a trip.

I would like to hear that the passengers refused to allow these scumbags turn their airplane into a weapon of Jihad.

75 WimbledonWomble  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:41:54pm

The MSM will have to obviously clear it through CAIR before they can report on it.

76 Clemente  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:43:20pm

re: #73 SeafoodGumboWhat they said, double! Please, keep on connecting more dots, and thanks!

(extra fruit cup for Gumbo!)

77 eastvillageinfidel  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:45:07pm

re: #57 Cognito


If the religion of the suspects does, in fact turn out, to be muslim and it is not immediately revealed, what will your intepretation of the news services' intent be ?

78 Yankee Division Son  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:47:00pm

Yakutat tlingit eskimos causing trouble again?

/

79 rorschach  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:47:01pm
Middle Eastern...

Wouldn't that be somewhere around Maryland?

I mean, Kansas would be Middle Western, right?

80 Clemente  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:47:08pm

re: My #76 Clemente

Well, that was sloppy... I blame this dart and all these wires!

81 mikulla  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:50:02pm

Pro-life Christians?

82 Clemente  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:51:57pm

Hmm... Have the hamsters got the hiccups again?

83 Cognito  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:52:18pm

re: #77 eastvillageinfidel

re: #57 Cognito


If the religion of the suspects does, in fact turn out, to be muslim and it is not immediately revealed, what will your intepretation of the news services' intent be ?

Well. Seeing how the FBI says there was nothing to the report, I don't really plan to spend much time interpreting anything.

84 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:54:52pm

Mmm... Seafood gumbo...

85 Canadian Guy  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:56:15pm

The Islamist Fifth Column In America
INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY

Posted 9/21/2007

We are at war with Islamic terrorists and extremists. Those who sympathize with them must be exposed just as we exposed those American agents who sympathized with the Nazis during WWII.

Other than the religious aspect, there is little difference now vs. then. The First Amendment may protect freedom of religion, but it does not protect sedition. The U.S. government must draw the line there in dealing with Islamism in America.

86 SeafoodGumbo  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:57:33pm

re: #76 Clemente

re: #73 SeafoodGumboWhat they said, double! Please, keep on connecting more dots, and thanks!

(extra fruit cup for Gumbo!)

Not to be rude, but can I trade the fruit cup for some flounder stuffed with crab meat and a bowl of turtle soup?

87 mbruce  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:58:01pm

The FBI dismissing the actions of the flight crew as "nothing to report" is cause for concern in itself IMHO.

88 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:58:52pm

re: #82 Clemente

Hmm... Have the hamsters got the hiccups again?

Hamster Fight

/hat tip: someone from yesterday

89 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:59:27pm

re: #87 mbruce

See my #16.

90 Russkilitlover  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 10:59:47pm

Like the "alleged" Syrian musicians of a year or so ago, we'll probably hear no more about this. The passengers may be interviewed on the occasional talk radio programs and then...silence.

OTOH, we have not been successfully attacked in the US for over six years. Things may be being done that we are not privvy to...

91 Canadian Guy  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:02:35pm

re: #87 mbruce

The FBI dismissing the actions of the flight crew as "nothing to report" is cause for concern in itself IMHO.

Also the FBI not revealing what the flight attendent thought was suspiciuos.

92 SeafoodGumbo  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:06:15pm

re: #84 Noam Sayin'

Mmm... Seafood gumbo...

Here ya go.

93 JimmyTheClaw  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:08:29pm

Army Sergeant Who Blogged From Iraq Killed Wednesday

[Link: newsbusters.org...]

94 mbruce  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:08:44pm

True #90, these asshats live for press coverage among other things, not giving it to them can be a specific tactic .

95 SeafoodGumbo  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:09:37pm

re: #83 Cognito

re: #77 eastvillageinfidel

re: #57 Cognito


If the religion of the suspects does, in fact turn out, to be muslim and it is not immediately revealed, what will your intepretation of the news services' intent be ?

Well. Seeing how the FBI says there was nothing to the report, I don't really plan to spend much time interpreting anything.

Because we've never seen any stories about the FBI being wrong.

/guffaw
/snicker

96 Cognito  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:11:49pm

re: #95 SeafoodGumbo

re: #83 Cognito

re: #77 eastvillageinfidel
re: #57 Cognito


If the religion of the suspects does, in fact turn out, to be muslim and it is not immediately revealed, what will your intepretation of the news services' intent be ?

Well. Seeing how the FBI says there was nothing to the report, I don't really plan to spend much time interpreting anything.
Because we've never seen any stories about the FBI being wrong.

/guffaw
/snicker

Sounds like a problem with the FBI, then.

97 eastvillageinfidel  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:13:49pm

re: #83 Cognito

Well, I guess that's the end of it then.

98 SeafoodGumbo  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:16:53pm

re: #96 Cognito

re: #95 SeafoodGumbo

re: #83 Cognito

re: #77 eastvillageinfidel

re: #57 Cognito
If the religion of the suspects does, in fact turn out, to be muslim and it is not immediately revealed, what will your intepretation of the news services' intent be ?

Well. Seeing how the FBI says there was nothing to the report, I don't really plan to spend much time interpreting anything.

Because we've never seen any stories about the FBI being wrong./guffaw
/snicker

Sounds like a problem with the FBI, then.

You changed your mind about the FBI pretty quick there. From "seeing how the FBI says there was nothing wrong..." to "sounds like a problem with the FBI" in no time at all.

99 pat  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:18:47pm

Federal Bureau of Idiots. Making America a dumber and less safe nation.
Motto: "Americans Are The Enemy"

100 Cognito  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:19:36pm

re: #98 SeafoodGumbo

re: #96 Cognito

re: #95 SeafoodGumbo
re: #83 Cognito
re: #77 eastvillageinfidel
re: #57 Cognito
If the religion of the suspects does, in fact turn out, to be muslim and it is not immediately revealed, what will your intepretation of the news services' intent be ?
Well. Seeing how the FBI says there was nothing to the report, I don't really plan to spend much time interpreting anything.
Because we've never seen any stories about the FBI being wrong./guffaw
/snicker
Sounds like a problem with the FBI, then.
You changed your mind about the FBI pretty quick there. From "seeing how the FBI says there was nothing wrong..." to "sounds like a problem with the FBI" in no time at all.

Um, no. I'm saying that your snickering and guffawing should likely be directed at the FBI.

If the FBI says there was no problem onboard the plane, I have a choice: I can either take their word for it, or I can question their judgment. If you're questioning the judgment of the FBI, that's a call that's beyond my knowledge.

101 RTLM  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:21:15pm

OT
(apologies for the roger)

I will now proudly show you my first and only LGF hat tip

102 DesertSage  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:23:03pm

re: #92 SeafoodGumbo

re: #84 Noam Sayin'

Mmm... Seafood gumbo...

Here ya go.

That did it, now I'm hungry!
Now, where does one go in the big city for a midnight snack?

103 Cognito  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:26:55pm

I can't help but laugh when I look at the comment ratings.

Someone asked me my interpretation of specific aspects about this case, and I answered that none of it apparently matters, since the FBI looked into it and says the report was a false alarm.

That simple post has earned, so far, four negative ratings.

104 Yankee Division Son  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:26:56pm

OT -

Bill Clinton jokes he might not handle being 'first husband' very well..."I may slit my throat"

105 SeafoodGumbo  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:27:00pm

re: #100 Cognito


If the FBI says there was no problem onboard the plane, I have a choice: I can either take their word for it, or I can question their judgment. If you're questioning the judgment of the FBI, that's a call that's beyond my knowledge.


How can you not question the FBI's judgement when there have been scores of stories at LGF through the last few years where they were wrong. There are no doubt many, many intelligent people at the FBI, but there are also a good number of total idiots who have their heads up their asses. You've seen the same stories here that I have.

106 Cognito  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:28:35pm

re: #105 SeafoodGumbo

re: #100 Cognito



If the FBI says there was no problem onboard the plane, I have a choice: I can either take their word for it, or I can question their judgment. If you're questioning the judgment of the FBI, that's a call that's beyond my knowledge.

How can you not question the FBI's judgement when there have been scores of stories at LGF through the last few years where they were wrong. There are no doubt many, many intelligent people at the FBI, but there are also a good number of total idiots who have their heads up their asses. You've seen the same stories here that I have.

Hey, that's fine. Direct your frustration at the FBI, then. Not me.

I'm no expert on the FBI, and I won't pretend to be.

107 nikis-knight  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:29:34pm
But what were the passengers doing, I asked Fischvogt?

“Using their cell phones to call people in the terminals and call the news media,” Fischvogt saidEngaging in some 'friendly' full-contact religious debate."

/If I was there (well, assuming that something serious was apparent to the passengers, can't say I know really what happened at the moment.)

108 SeafoodGumbo  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:30:10pm

re: #102 DesertSage

re: #92 SeafoodGumbo

re: #84 Noam Sayin'

Mmm... Seafood gumbo...

Here ya go.

That did it, now I'm hungry!
Now, where does one go in the big city for a midnight snack?

Probably a bar.

109 eastvillageinfidel  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:30:43pm

re: #100 Cognito


Oh come on man, aren't all your tough investigative reporterly instincts kicking in yet? And for the record, I have not minused your comments. Not even the 'slathering' one.

110 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:31:45pm

re: #103 Cognito

/the down dingers rule the night

111 Cornholio  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:31:48pm

Mich-again, Cap'n DOC, tradewind

Why Mich-again considers my observation out a "stupid post" is beyond me. It is common knowledge that if, God forbid, there is another 9/11 style hijacking of an airline in the U.S., our military will shoot the airliner down - unless the passengers/sky marshals use force against the terrorists and land the plane quickly.

Bush was forced to make what Cheney called "the toughest decision" of the day: whether American pilots should be authorized to shoot down an airliner filled with American citizens.

Fighter jets had taken off from Otis Air National Guard Base in Cape Cod, Mass., and Langley Air Force Base in Virginia, bolting toward New York and Washington.

But, Cheney said on NBC's Meet the Press, "It doesn't do any good to put (up) a combat air patrol if you don't give them instructions to act."

"The president made the decision on my recommendation as well," Cheney said. "If the plane would not divert, if they wouldn't pay any attention to instructions to move away from the city, as a last resort our pilots were authorized to take them out."

Said Bush: "I gave our military the orders necessary to protect Americans. Of course, that was difficult. Never did I dream we would be under attack this way."



from a USA Today article after 9/11

112 squarepeg  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:31:58pm

re: #93 JimmyTheClaw

God damn.

113 Cognito  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:32:18pm

re: #109 eastvillageinfidel

re: #100 Cognito


Oh come on man, aren't all your tough investigative reporterly instincts kicking in yet? And for the record, I have not minused your comments. Not even the 'slathering' one.

Is that what's happening on this thread? Tough investigative reporterly instincts?

Or people sitting around speculating on things about which they know little, yet?

114 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:34:48pm

re: #109 eastvillageinfidel

Gotta keep that Little Green Flame™ of investigative reporting alive.

115 Cognito  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:34:53pm

re: #110 Killian Bundy

re: #103 Cognito

/the down dingers rule the night

Made me laugh.

116 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:36:55pm

re: #110 Killian Bundy

Must be when the gcp sock puppets like to strike.

117 Canadian Guy  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:36:59pm

Sanctions will not work: Iran(DPA)
22 September 2007

TEHERAN - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said on Saturday at a military parade in Teheran that renewed United Nations Security Council resolutions and sanctions against Iran would not work.

“Those (countries) still thinking that decaying methods such as psychological war and economic sanctions would work and prevent Iran from technological progress are making a mistake, but they are welcome to test the previously failed test again,” Ahmadinejad said at the parade.

118 Ojoe  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:37:12pm

Well it would be way more efficient for us not to let a whole group of people fly, rather than checking everybody's toothpaste in a clear plastic bag.

How Very Sad.™

I just flew back today from taking care of my 85 year old mom for a week.

Everybody at the airport, an extra half to one hour, their travel made longer by the islamic terrorists.

How much time is that, nationally,if you add it up?

A rational response would not be so tedious.

I'm going to bed, If not for these (deleted), I'd have been home an hour sooner and my ticket would have been cheaper.

My mom is doing better.

119 SeafoodGumbo  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:40:21pm

re: #106 Cognito

re: #105 SeafoodGumbo

re: #100 Cognito


If the FBI says there was no problem onboard the plane, I have a choice: I can either take their word for it, or I can question their judgment. If you're questioning the judgment of the FBI, that's a call that's beyond my knowledge.


How can you not question the FBI's judgement when there have been scores of stories at LGF through the last few years where they were wrong. There are no doubt many, many intelligent people at the FBI, but there are also a good number of total idiots who have their heads up their asses. You've seen the same stories here that I have.

Hey, that's fine. Direct your frustration at the FBI, then. Not me.

I'm no expert on the FBI, and I won't pretend to be.


First, to the "direct your frustration at the FBI" line...so no one here should say anything bad about Ahmadinejad, but should instead contact the Iranian Embassy; no one should take issue with Jimmy Carter here, but should instead call him to direct their frustration where it matters? This is a political forum.

And, I'm not directing any frustration at you as you passively-aggressively assert, but trying to state that the FBI does not deserve the benefit of the doubt here because:
1. They've been wrong about so many things so many times the last few years. I mean, how do you know that the FBI agent who said there was nothing to worry about here wasn't trained by CAIR about Islam?

2. The quickness of deciding that there's nothing here, move on now, indicates that it has not been a thorough investigation.

120 Killian Bundy  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:41:29pm

re: #116 Sharmuta

Must be when the gcp sock puppets like to strike.

Hmmm . . . nope.

/guess again

121 eastvillageinfidel  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:41:45pm

re: #113 Cognito

Lighten up, do you know where you are? We make meat and potatoes (and seafood gumbo!) out of skewering the mainstream media, and with good reason. You are too reflexively defensive about it.

122 eastvillageinfidel  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:42:25pm

re: #114 Sharmuta

I totally plussed you for that!

123 RTLM  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:42:38pm

I post on GCP quite a bit. Find the company to be quite well informed.

(about lots of other stuff than what you think)

124 xenophobic  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:44:58pm

Hooray!

Jesse MacBeth sentenced to 5 months in Prison

/preemptive apologies if posted.

125 Cognito  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:46:03pm

re: #119 SeafoodGumbo

re: #106 Cognito

re: #105 SeafoodGumbo
re: #100 Cognito

If the FBI says there was no problem onboard the plane, I have a choice: I can either take their word for it, or I can question their judgment. If you're questioning the judgment of the FBI, that's a call that's beyond my knowledge.

How can you not question the FBI's judgement when there have been scores of stories at LGF through the last few years where they were wrong. There are no doubt many, many intelligent people at the FBI, but there are also a good number of total idiots who have their heads up their asses. You've seen the same stories here that I have.
Hey, that's fine. Direct your frustration at the FBI, then. Not me.

I'm no expert on the FBI, and I won't pretend to be.


First, to the "direct your frustration at the FBI" line...so no one here should say anything bad about Ahmadinejad, but should instead contact the Iranian Embassy; no one should take issue with Jimmy Carter here, but should instead call him to direct their frustration where it matters? This is a political forum.

And, I'm not directing any frustration at you as you passively-aggressively assert, but trying to state that the FBI does not deserve the benefit of the doubt here because:
1. They've been wrong about so many things so many times the last few years. I mean, how do you know that the FBI agent who said there was nothing to worry about here wasn't trained by CAIR about Islam?

2. The quickness of deciding that there's nothing here, move on now, indicates that it has not been a thorough investigation.

Well. Firstly, my line about directing your frustration at the FBI didn't end there. It ended with "Not at me." So I didn't "passively-aggressively" assert anything. I said it outright.

And I'm not suggesting you phone up your local FBI office. Or write a letter, or even send an email. Of course not. Don't be absurd. I'm suggesting you sit around and complain in a blog's comments section. Or, pardon me: a "political forum."

And if you don't want to give the FBI the benefit of the doubt, that's fine. I haven't told you not to -- work up a good lather, if it suits you.

But me? I'll do as I please.

126 Canadian Guy  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:50:54pm

22/09/2007 06:21 TEHRAN, Sept 22 (AFP)
Iran shows off new longer-range missile
Iran on Saturday showed off a new longer-range missile named the "Ghadr," saying it had a range of 1,800 kilometres (1,100 miles), in an annual military parade to mark an eight-year war with Iraq.

The "Ghadr" -- meaning "power" -- appears to be an upgrade of Iran's existing longer-range missile the Shahab-3, which according to Iranian officials has a range of 1,300 kilometres (805 miles).

©2007 AFP

127 blackpajamas  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:55:19pm

._..__...___...-=:::{[{ Prophet from Irony }]}:::=-...___...__.._.

And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire.

For those who would seal up the things which the seven thunders threaten to utter, and to those who ask the simple questions,

"And you also have to wonder how the students of Iran are reacting to this debacle."

"Why have American liberals been silent regarding Ahmadenijad doing Manhattan?"

These are natural questions, to which there are just as naturally ugly, hard, and fast answers.

Here is wisdom. He that hath understanding, let him count the number of the Monday.

You see, September 24 is a special day for the Ahmadi-Hajj to the U.N. sweatlodge - to share his spirit-vision with the righteous:


The prophet Muhammad escapes death by completing the Hegira, or flight,
to Medina from Mecca on this day. Mecca is the holy center of Islam and
the birthplace of Muhammad, the religion's great prophet and founder.


In 610, in a cave in Mount Hira, north of Mecca, Muhammad had a vision
in which God commanded him to become the prophet of the true religion.
He gained a significant following in Mecca, provoking the jealous
city authorities to plot his death.


Muhammad escaped and on September 24, 622, arrived at Medina.
There, Muhammad founded Islam as a religion and organized community,
and in 630 he returned to Mecca as a conqueror. The Hegira would
later mark the beginning (year 1) of the Muslim calendar.

Well, I had a vision of my own too, stumbling around last evening under the harvest moon, a vision where 20,000 protesters each hit him in the head with a pumpkin*, on Monday September 24.

However, and this is the point, if you REALLY want to knock the cheese off that guy's cracker, just delay his visit until next month. (No vision for you! Not yours! Bad Prophet, no cookie).

*Naturally, there will be some among you that will say, "Can we use pumpking chucking trebuchets?" While purists might say that this would not be sporting unless one was at a further distance from the U.N. (Staten Island?), ultimately, this is a very personal decision.

128 SeafoodGumbo  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:55:35pm

re: #125 Cognito

But me? I'll do as I please.


Congratulations, quite a step forward.

I'm going to dreamland now, so you can have the last word.

129 Cognito  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:56:54pm

re: #128 SeafoodGumbo

Sweet dreams.

130 Cognito  Fri, Sep 21, 2007 11:57:19pm

:)

131 Sharmuta[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:00:19am
132 SeafoodGumbo  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:02:34am

:)re: #129 Cognito

re: #128 SeafoodGumbo

Sweet dreams.

You too. :)

133 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:03:28am

re: #127 blackpajamas

Who cares? Last year it was August 26th, yada, yada, yada.

/it's a bull[expletive deleted] religion with bull[expletive deleted] beliefs, ain't nothing gonna happen

134 Killian Bundy[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:07:08am
135 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:09:40am

re: #134 Killian Bundy

You have a linky to back up that unsubstantiated allegation?

136 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:11:21am

re: #135 Sharmuta

re: #134 Killian Bundy

You have a linky to back up that unsubstantiated allegation?

Geez, Sharm. If you hadn't sprang into action, there, I wouldn't have even realized there was an allegation at all...

137 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:14:57am

re: #135 W-Lover

You have a linky to back up that unsubstantiated allegation?

Of course not.

/but that doesn't explain last night, because you weren't the ones being consistently dinged down

138 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:17:01am

re: #137 Killian Bundy

You can go look at my totals for the last few nights- I have been a target, along with others- including ploome- whom everyone has noticed getting dinged down.

139 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:18:01am

People notice?

140 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:19:30am

re: #137 Killian Bundy

You have no proof, and back these people when you'd joined in the snarking of Charles back then. I'm not going to stay here for this. You belong with gcp- go join them- they're waiting.

Good night.

141 Canadian Guy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:20:11am

Sinks for Muslims at airport are up in air
Facing complaints, officials say plans for wash basins are 'only preliminary'

By Robert King
robert.king@indystar.com

Airport officials, facing complaints from the public and criticism from a local Baptist minister, say plans to accommodate the prayer needs of Muslim taxi drivers in a new terminal's design are a long way from being "set in stone." ...

One person objecting is the Rev. Jerry Hillenburg, a Baptist pastor who lost a son in Iraq two years ago.

Hillenburg, who wrote Mayor Bart Peterson about his concerns this week, said putting sinks on public property would be unconstitutional, given that their primary purpose is to serve Muslims.

Beyond that, Hillenburg said, the move would represent an "appeasement" of Muslims at a time when he has serious doubts about whether Muslims can be loyal Americans.

Hillenburg plans to preach Sunday on what he calls America's problem of "caving in to Islam" at his 700-member Hope Baptist Church on the Far Westside. He announced the sermon and his church's concerns about Muslims with a news release that said: "We also oppose the fraternization with our open enemies during a time of war."

142 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:20:39am

Good lord.

I'm glad I stayed up.

I feel like a babe in toyland.

143 RTLM  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:21:40am

I will now coin a new term: Dingbat
Definition:
"Agitated poster who feels a snarling need to belittle those whom he/she has already lost a previous contest to - thereby producing an OCD repeat behavior that compels said AP (agitated poster) to continually restart his/her browser of choice for the sole purpose of "dinging" others comments."

Dingbat

144 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:21:42am

re: #138 Sharmuta

Fine. If they're doing that, they should be hunted down and given the stick. Hell, I was getting down dings for posting news articles.

/now explain tommoon and anyone who stuck up for him

145 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:25:20am

re: #143 RTLM

I will now coin a new term: Dingbat
Definition:
"Agitated poster who feels a snarling need to belittle those whom he/she has already lost a previous contest to - thereby producing an OCD repeat behavior that compels said AP (agitated poster) to continually restart his/her browser of choice for the sole purpose of "dinging" others comments."

Dingbat


Funny. And for what it's worth, I get negative ratings for saying hello.

I think the whole rating thing is a bit of a lark, really. I tend to think the weight of an opinion is usually worth the effort required by its expressor. So ratings? Eh.

146 eastvillageinfidel  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:27:21am

re: #139 Cognito


They notice, and they remember. Odd atmosphere here as of late.

147 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:27:43am

re: #141 Canadian Guy

ROFLMAO. How in Hell did we ever go from Flyin' Pigs to Flyin' Footbaths?

I don't know whether I should try to catch up with this thread or not.

148 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:30:35am

re: #146 eastvillageinfidel

re: #139 Cognito


They notice, and they remember. Odd atmosphere here as of late.

Pay 'em no nevermind.

I strongly suspect that half of all LGF posters are below the average. ;)

149 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:31:59am

Shit. Do I have stop ignoring 'the ratings' now or what?re: #134 Killian Bundy

That was yesterday's Jheka. Are we now looking for Mr. Hide?

150 Outrider  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:32:41am
...Hours later, the FBI said it was closing the case and that there had been a misunderstanding on the plane.

"Approximately 30 minutes prior to landing, a flight attendant observed suspicious activity by two of the passengers and reported this activity accordingly," the FBI said in a statement.

"Subsequent investigation, including interviews with those aboard the aircraft and a search of the airplane, has determined there was never any apparent threat or danger to the passengers or crew, and the observed activity was apparently misperceived," agents added...


Has anyone read anything as to what this "misunderstanding" or "suspicious activity" was? And how it could have been "misperceived"?

151 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:33:55am

re: #140 Sharmuta

You have no proof

I notice the specific absense of a denial there.

and back these people when you'd joined in the snarking of Charles back then.

Well, that's just utter bull[expletive deleted], why don't you try quoting me? Although, that might take forever.

/I have absolutely no interest in GCP, but thanks for playing

152 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:34:26am

Sorry I said anything.

/note to self: return to lurk mode.

(whistling softly) Nothin' happenin' here. What it is ain't exactly clear.

153 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:35:27am

And BTW - What the Hell is GCP? Inquiring novice Lizards want to know.

154 eastvillageinfidel  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:35:30am

re: #148 Cognito

Ouch! I did NOT ding you! Dinging an honest adversary is beneath the dignity of the infidel from the east village! ;)

155 g3n3r1c  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:37:13am

re: #153 Cap'n DOC

And BTW - What the Hell is GCP? Inquiring novice Lizards want to know.


GCP is an acronym for Genistein Combined Polysaccharide and is derived from organic, GMO-free soybeans developed in Japan. Genikinoko contains GCP, which is produced by the fermentation of soybean isoflavone extracts with basidiomycetes mushrooms.

GCP contains a rich content of isoflavones aglycon, especially genistein as well as a rich content of polysaccharides and basidiomycetes. It is well absorded from the small intestine and is taken up by the liver and transported into bile. In studies at Columbia University in New York, several experiments revealed that GCP can have a dramatic effect on prostate cancer cells. GCP can cause prostatic cancer cells to stop growing and dividing. Their findings have been duplicated in both cell cultures and animals. when the cancer cells are exposed to GCP, they undergo cell death known as apoptosis. The death of these cancer cells occurs early, often a few hours after exposure to GCP. It is expected that GCP will be useful for cancer treatment and may play a significant role in the management of cancer in the U.S. One bottle is equivalent to 1 month's supply.

For more technical information on GCP go to [Link: www.GCPresearch.com...]

156 EtNorskTroll  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:37:15am

re: #29 Afterimage

If those passengers were stranded for 45 minutes heads should roll at the agancies responsible.

If there really were "terrorists" on the plane, one would think that the plane would be filled with 'rolling heads' after sitting on the tarmac for 45 minutes.

Doesn't take a lot to get certain types of "terrorists" busy...

*cough muslim cough*

~Norsk Troll

157 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:37:53am

re: #154 eastvillageinfidel

No, no, I wasn't saying you did.

Honestly I couldn't care less about the ratings. In an already anonymous world of anonymous opinion, they're even further removed from accountability.

It's all just binary code.

158 Pawn of the Oppressor  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:39:42am

re: #65 SeafoodGumbo

Re Jacksonville, where this plane took off from...
Another curious Jacksonville/Muslim fact is that the Islamic Center of Northeast Florida is right next to an airport. It isn't Jacksonville's main airport, but knowing that the "political wing" of terror groups in America has a place right next to an airport is something I hope the FBI is watching.

I noticed the same thing in a "find your local mosque" map search that was linked here a couple of days ago... There is an Islamic center of some sort - has the name "Association" at the end, which is generally bad news - near the southeast corner of DFW airport.

Granted that may be due to funny zoning, but it's a bit of an eyebrow-raiser.

I thought it was interesting that this site had a "rate your mosque" system and the graphic for it said "Insightful/Inciteful?" with a thumbs-up/thumbs-down respectively.

I wonder what sort of "Incitement" is so frequent in mosques that it rates a special graphic on an Islamic community website? Hmm...

159 Outrider  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:40:28am

re: #156 EtNorskTroll

*cough muslim cough*

Subtle. ;-)>

160 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:40:53am

re: #157 Cognito

/Charles knows, the ratings aren't anonymous

161 RTLM  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:50:12am

re: #145 Cognito

re: #143 RTLM

I will now coin a new term: Dingbat
Definition:
"Agitated poster who feels a snarling need to belittle those whom he/she has already lost a previous contest to - thereby producing an OCD repeat behavior that compels said AP (agitated poster) to continually restart his/her browser of choice for the sole purpose of "dinging" others comments."

Dingbat


Funny. And for what it's worth, I get negative ratings for saying hello.

I think the whole rating thing is a bit of a lark, really. I tend to think the weight of an opinion is usually worth the effort required by its expressor. So ratings? Eh.

No, yours are real.

:)

162 RTLM  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:51:44am

pimf

;J

163 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:52:29am

re: #161 RTLM

Oh, of course -- I'd be disappointed otherwise. Even so, their cumulative weight adds up to a fraction of one well-worded response, in my opinion.

164 JimmyTheClaw  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:52:35am

re: #145 Cognito

re: #143 RTLM

I will now coin a new term: Dingbat
Definition:
"Agitated poster who feels a snarling need to belittle those whom he/she has already lost a previous contest to - thereby producing an OCD repeat behavior that compels said AP (agitated poster) to continually restart his/her browser of choice for the sole purpose of "dinging" others comments."

Dingbat


Funny. And for what it's worth, I get negative ratings for saying hello.

I think the whole rating thing is a bit of a lark, really. I tend to think the weight of an opinion is usually worth the effort required by its expressor. So ratings? Eh.

lol i randomly +- except for squarepeg (who asked to be minused the first night of ratings)

165 eastvillageinfidel  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:54:13am

re: #160 Killian Bundy

For what it's worth, I "plus" things that make me laugh. There have been a couple of bizarre, hostile link laden threads that kinda freaked me out.

166 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:56:13am

re: #165 eastvillageinfidel

This one has freaked me out a bit. Makes me suspect I've been on here posting away, for a while now, with a grand total of seven other people who are pretending to be seven hundred.

That's a little weird.

167 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:04:36am

re: #165 eastvillageinfidel

Once again, I must admit that I somewhat misbehaved during the first two weeks concerning a couple of commenters, until I was disabused of the anonymous part.

/now I pretty much just up ding good comments and down ding blog pimps

168 EtNorskTroll  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:06:19am

re: #159 Outrider

re: #156 EtNorskTroll

*cough muslim cough*

Subtle. ;-)>

I might be completely upside-down about this, Outrider...


...but I'm going to take a wild, shot in the dark and say that this is connected to Islam in some wild, wacky way.

I might be proven later to be completely off base, but for now, that's what I'm going to guess.

/wild and wacky guy

~Norsk Troll

169 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:15:14am

re: #166 Cognito

LOL. I just evened you up a tad...

170 jdow-antijihad  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:17:44am

re: #38 Noam Sayin'

re: #28 Cognito

Great. Fox has it.

Check out CNN

Check out ABC

Check out CBS

Check out NBS ---> MSNBC

Whose top story is:

Collecting of details on travelers documented
Gathering of personal information violates Privacy Act, activists contend

Explain to me in small words (ideally without credibility damaging profanity) just why having the government able to collect the same information that already exists in hundreds plus of corporate databases is a bad thing.

Either the corporate databases must be dismantled and the data destroyed or the government should be able to independently collect the same sort of information. It sounds to me like this dual standard places far more faith in corporations than the government. And demonstrably corporations do not have the best interests of customers or non-customers in mind when they build their databases. Arguably the government might not, as well. The corporations are more able to misuse their data without getting into oversight trouble than the government.

Public data is public data. Who holds that public data matters little if ANYBODY is holding the data. XYZ corp could black mail a person ove data in their potfolio with a threat to notify the government. Or the government could simply have the data, notice the blackmail potential, and act on it. The latter situation offers less potential danger to the nation and in practical terms less long term damage to the potential blackmailed victim.

So I would appreciate a rational answer absent your profanity. After all profanity is usually the effort of a weak mind to express itself.

{^_^}

171 The Other Les  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:18:04am

Minnesota Lutherans

/obligatory

172 CommonSense  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:18:57am

re: #2 mikeysdca

I thought they were disgruntled Amish Farmers. I'm shocked that those of the Muslim faith are involved. The Jews must have planted them there.

173 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:19:13am

re: #167 Killian Bundy

Define Blog Pimp. Please. I'm getting this image of someone with a Stable of Thoroughbred BlogPonies.

174 The Other Les  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:20:23am

re: #21 ornery elephant

I'm afraid we live in a time when a hunting accident in Texas dominates the MSM for three weeks while a terrorist arrested in South Carolina with a trunkfull of bomb making materials is only mentioned on the blogs.

A nonfatal hunting accident.

175 U.S. 395  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:22:11am

re: #120 Killian Bundy

re: #116 Sharmuta

Must be when the gcp sock puppets like to strike.
Hmmm . . . nope.

/guess again

Killian Bundy, above is your response to Cognito's question about why his/her posts get negative dings.

By your positively stating it is not people from GCP, not having all GCP posters under your direct control, logic dictates that you are indicating that you know who is doing it, or that you are just B.S.ing. How do you come by your information that people from GCP are not selectively dinging specific posters? It came from YOUR mouth, you know. From what I've read, a lot of people would like to know who's stirring the pot. Is it you, then?

I will say straight out say that as a long-time reader but new poster, I have down-dinged (is that a word?) quite a few comments in the last few days because of gratuitous profanity. I'm not trying to be a game warden, but sheesh, it seems like for the last week or maybe longer it doesn't matter which thread, I keep running into pissing matches where the names Cognito, noam sayin', Highrise, Sharmuta, keep coming up. Everytime I see the names I want to scroll over. I'm not taking sides or laying blame because, frankly, it seems like such a personal grudge match that it's hard to follow, and I don't care to keep score! In fact when I joined, I turned off the ratings boxes. Then I turned them on, to see what people thought of the fighting I saw. But now that it seems games are being played, I think I'll probably turn them off again. They have become a game and a distraction unto them selves.

I will also say that some of the debate between the posters mentioned and others has been very intense, thoughtful, excellent debate. I hope that continues. It would just be nice (at least for me) if you guys could take a breath before personal jiu-jitsu mode kicks in. I could learn a lot more that way, instead of having to try to filter out the insults from the nitty gritty of the debate.

I don't know what kind of personal thing is driving all this, or whether this is some old grudge between people who are using the above names as sock puppets, but for the rest of us, could some of you please just chilll a bit, leave out the %#�%$ words - THEN we could more easily follow the debate. But yeah, I just joined but have read for quite awhile and so my dings are coming from useless profanity. And it's a pain in the butt for me to keep scrolling over, with this small laptop keyboard, because other posters' comments are interspersed with your fighting, and I'd like to read them, too!

Thanks for at least considering what I'm saying. I'm not trying to be a jerk. It's just starting to become a chore to scroll past endless dogfights with the same names involved.

176 The Other Les  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:22:58am

re: #173 Cap'n DOC

re: #167 Killian Bundy

Define Blog Pimp. Please. I'm getting this image of someone with a Stable of Thoroughbred BlogPonies.

Someone who pimps his or her blog like I've sometimes done with Living In The Surreal World and My Own Private Universe.

177 U.S. 395  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:28:08am

re: #134 Killian Bundy

What is this?

#131 was written by Sharmjuta, not by "imadhimmi"

178 EtNorskTroll  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:28:53am

re: #171 The Other Les

Minnesota Lutherans

/obligatory

Midwestern Presbyterians...

/I'm just sure of it

~ENT

179 U.S. 395  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:33:35am

re: #137 Killian Bundy

WTF, Killian Bundy?

#135 commented as Sharmuta, NOT W-Lover!

CHARLES, WILL YOU PLEASE SORT OUT THIS MESS

I don't know if Sharmuta, Cognito, etc. are playing sock puppet games and Killian bundy is right, or if Killian Bundy is throwing gasoline for fun, but this continued sniping is RIDICULOUS!

I'm reporting all three comments. This is a waste of my time. I don't come to LGF to watch baby games, and there's something going on here more than meets the eye!

I have had enough. Going to check the weather, but not going to stick around for this idiocy!

180 Da_Beerfreak  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:34:51am

re: #175 U.S. 395

Looks like it's another outbreak of [Insert Poster's Name Here] Derangement Syndrome. There's no known cure, only careful wielding of the stick by Charles can keep it under control.

181 U.S. 395  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:38:27am

I reported my own #179 so that the management can see why I just reported all the underhanded maneuvering apparently going on upthread.

Not trying to make enemies of any of you. But something really stinks about the way you are interacting. And if NONE of you are sockpuppets, then stop the accusations. If some of you have a hidden agenda, take it elsewhere!

I'm out of here, just like I left the other night to watch "House" on TIVO.

This is ridiculous.

Dingbat wars.

182 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:39:26am

re: #173 Cap'n DOC

Define Blog Pimp. Please. I'm getting this image of someone with a Stable of Thoroughbred BlogPonies.

/Jay77 and Sheik something or other, blog pimping can be tasteful or obnoxious, I flag the obnoxious

183 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:43:20am

re: #177 U.S. 395

What is this?

#131 was written by Sharmjuta, not by "imadhimmi"

And?

/why do you care are so upset about it?

184 Confuzed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:44:02am

Yesteryear, the bad guys would have prayed for a quick law enforcement response to save their sorry butts.

Maybe a return to the old ways might solve many of today's problems.

185 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:49:37am

re: #179 U.S. 395

You come here in the middle of the night for what?

/Mr. sock puppet 43 comments in the last week

186 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:55:53am

re: #175 U.S. 395

That comment was a lot of words equaling stupid.

/GCP much?

187 pink freud  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:56:59am

Risking some more of what 395 has gotten here, I'm gonna jump in and say that I come here in the middle of the night also. I come to read, to catch up on the day's news ...and quite frankly, I too am put off by all of the sniping and nastiness that I am seeing in the last few days.

Whats up with that?

188 Corpsman Mom  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:59:42am

This blog has gotten scary lately...in a kind of bully in the schoolyard way. Maybe some fruitcup will help.

189 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:00:05am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

/...you're on your own for fruitcup today. sorry.
//I shouldn't even be here...

190 eastvillageinfidel  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:00:34am

re: #188 Corpsman Mom

Amen to that sister!

191 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:00:44am

re: #181 U.S. 395

I reported my own #179 so that the management can see why I just reported all the underhanded maneuvering apparently going on upthread.

/sniff, sniff, smells like teen spirit GCP crap

192 Stuck-in-CA  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:00:44am

re: #37 xenophobic

Not to cause a stir but every time I hear of the DHS inability to do it's job I wonder if we didn't make a big mistake in rolling in already ineffective and overly bureaucratic departments into a slow moving super SLUG of an agency. They still have all the downfalls of the individual agencies, but now with 104 levels of paperwork in between.

My nephew does some work for the NSA. According to a friend of his there, the DHS is a chaotic mess. So it's whole purpose has become pointless...unless making things worse is what we were after. Makes a person feel REAL secure.

193 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:00:48am

re: #188 Corpsman Mom

Maybe. But you'll have to make it yourself. ;-)

194 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:00:50am

re: #179 U.S. 395

Whoa, whoa.

How about taking a deep breath before you start tossing my name around, if you please.

I'm no 'sock puppet' and I think that sort of thing is silly.

Thanks.

195 RTLM  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:01:46am

Hi littleoldlady :)

(The fruitcup was always second)

196 pink freud  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:02:01am

re: #189 littleoldlady

Is eveything ok, LOL?

197 Corpsman Mom  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:02:12am

re: #193 littleoldlady

Well, ok, but I'm putting valium in it!

198 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:02:26am

re: #195 RTLM

RTLM! :-) Thank you!

199 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:03:32am

re: #197 Corpsman Mom

re: #193 littleoldlady

Well, ok, but I'm putting valium in it!

Just like my chicken soup with matzoh balls recipe, it comes with the tagline:

"Vell, it couldn't hurt!" ;-)

200 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:04:51am

pink! :-)

Yom Kippur. I get to watch the rest of you eat...

201 Corpsman Mom  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:08:10am

Ok then...

Good morning/afternoon/evening everyone! Substitute fruitcup is on the buffet. Help yourselves and don't mind the white powdery substance. It's just sugar, I swear.

202 Render  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:09:11am

Lemme make this easy...

I do not, and never have had, on this blog, a sock puppet.

And it's freakin fruitcup time, so STFU and eat.

WAH
WAH
WAH,
R

203 pink freud  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:11:14am

re: #200 littleoldlady

My apologies for my airheadedness. I immediatley thought something might be up with MNT. Last we spoke you were lube-ing up the MasterCard for the shopping extravaganza. And drooling over doing laundry for some reason ...? ;-)

I hope all is well in your world!

good yontif :-)

204 Corpsman Mom  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:11:55am

I don't even know what a sock puppet is unless you're talking about those creepy monkey-looking puppets we used to have as kids. Those things gave me nightmares.

205 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:12:14am

Oh, and pink... vis a vis the sniping, etc:

/damn, here I was about to go into RENDERmode, and look who shows up!...

WATER
OFF A
DUCK,
R

206 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:14:49am

re: #203 pink freud

Thank you for the good wishes! :-)

I hope all is well in my world, too.

/how should I know? NO COFFEE!

How's by you?

207 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:15:24am

re: #201 Corpsman Mom

Oh, well done! BRAVO!

208 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:15:33am

Horses

/Gloria, yep she's a heathen

209 pink freud  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:15:56am

re: #205 littleoldlady

Done.

210 Corpsman Mom  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:16:24am

re: #207 littleoldlady

re: #201 Corpsman Mom

Oh, well done! BRAVO!

Thank you very much!

/blush

211 Fearless Fred  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:16:46am

re: #188 Corpsman Mom

This blog has gotten scary lately...in a kind of bully in the schoolyard way. Maybe some fruitcup will help.

Mornin' ... tho I'm not quite through sleeping yet ... what's gotten scary lately?

FF

212 pink freud  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:18:58am

re: #206 littleoldlady

I'm close to taking a semester off. Campus has become intolerable for me. Moonbats out of the freaking woodwork. I need some real world for a while.

/thinks there should be a pill: WATER OFF A DUCK

213 Stuck-in-CA  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:21:08am

re: #93 JimmyTheClaw

I email with Eddie's Dad. It's very sad, but they are SO proud of their son. As are all of us.

214 Corpsman Mom  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:21:33am

re: #211 Fearless Fred

Well, long story short, there seem to be some factions arguing with other factions over past arguments with yet a third faction. Sides have been taken and accusations are flying. Everyone thinks everyone else is a "sock puppet" whatever that is, and everyone is being a big meany!

215 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:22:46am

re: #212 pink freud

/thinks there should be a pill: WATER OFF A DUCK

If we can come up with something (legal! ;-) I may actually get this tuition bill paid off.

Things must be pretty bad in academia when psychology students can drive you crazy!

/market creation?
//like, there's not enough nuts in the world?

216 Fearless Fred  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:23:51am

re: #208 Killian Bundy

Horses

/Gloria, yep she's a heathen

Wow! ... ... ... hmm. That's makin' goin back to sleep here kinda weird.
Luv that girl!

217 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:27:37am

re: #214 Corpsman Mom

It's actually a bit more complicated than that. Another blog is actively registering nics specifically to cause trouble at LGF.

/sour grapes without end

218 pink freud  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:28:43am

re: #215 littleoldlady

Best wishes for the legal endeavor!

You know, LOL, I think this whole Jena 6 thing was the last straw. I've never seen so much en masse irrationality in my life.

And its not the students, its the profs. "You guys are masters students and just because I don't come in here and teach you doesn't mean you aren't responsible for figuring out what you are supposed to learn and then learning it!" Verbatim.

219 Fearless Fred  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:30:18am

re: #214 Corpsman Mom

Oh my --- sorry! Seriously, I hope it turns out well.

We need to hold together a bit longer, as our Lizard Master and that brave Texas Individualist, Mr. Rather, review various things!

220 pink freud  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:31:42am

re: #217 Killian Bundy

Thanks for the explanation. I've been reading for over two years and know some of the history (the purging, GCP, the players, etc.) Now I understand.

221 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:33:03am

re: #218 pink freud

And its not the students, its the profs. "You guys are masters students and just because I don't come in here and teach you doesn't mean you aren't responsible for figuring out what you are supposed to learn and then learning it!" Verbatim.

GOOD Lord!

/"and I'm paying all this money...why?"

222 pink freud  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:35:37am

re: #221 littleoldlady

/tenure's a wonderful thing.

223 andalus  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:36:37am

Great, more Americans getting harassed for being the wrong ethnicity on a plane.

224 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:38:12am

And...they're off!

225 Fearless Fred  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:38:19am

re: #180 Da_Beerfreak

re: #175 U.S. 395

Looks like it's another outbreak of [Insert Poster's Name Here] Derangement Syndrome. There's no known cure, only careful wielding of the stick by Charles can keep it under control.

yes ... true
life can be so tough ...

226 pink freud  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:38:26am

Nite, all.

Good seeing you again, littleoldlady. I missed you. Take care of yourself.

/sweet dreams!

227 bp sf  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:38:42am

"I shouldn't be here"

Good One.

I fondly remember the touch football games of my youth on this very day. We called it the Yom Kippur Bowl and played in our suits.

228 Render  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:39:34am

And why shouldn't a certain ethnicity, prone to irrational and inexplainable extreme violence, be harassed?

We all know how dangerous little old ladies can be when they're in flight.

RUN
ALONG,
R

229 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:42:11am

'Night pink!

/don't let the b*stards get you down...

re: #227 bp sf

AHA. I'm not alone! ;-)

Yom Kippur Bowl! LOL!

230 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:43:07am

re: #223 andalus

Great, more Americans getting harassed for being the wrong ethnicity on a plane.

Are they Americans?

/you're probably right, I'm sure the reported "terrorist incident" in the air was based on ethnicity

231 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:44:20am

re: #228 Render

We all know how dangerous little old ladies can be when they're in flight.

ZUG 'EM!

/okay, I've hit a couple of people with my broom in passing.
//accidently, of course!

232 Corpsman Mom  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:45:00am

re: #217 Killian Bundy

I'm aware that it's more complicated than I stated. What I don't understand is why some people care so much about what others are posting on another blog. Let them deal with their own problems. There is no reason why it should spill over to here unless they come in here and cause trouble, which Charles seems to control very well.

I do have to say, however, that from my view, Hwy 395 was accused of being a "sock puppet" for simply pointing out that things are seriously out of whack here lately. The fact that's he's only posted 48 times in the last...whatever, seems to be evidence to this fact. I've been registered with LGF since 2004 and I have a grand total of 154 posts. Does that make me a "sock puppet"? No. Does that preclude me from having just as much right as anyone else to point out the snarky direction this blog has taken lately? No.

Perhaps it is those of us who spend more time reading and less time posting who have the clearest view of the downward spiral taking place...no personal attachments and such. Nevertheless, accusing someone of being a "sock puppet" or being in cahoots with the trouble makers every time they comment on the bad feelings flowing through here isn't going to accomplish anything other than create more hard feelings.

I wasn't going to get involved in this, and I have no intention of getting involved any further. Those of you who wish to continue this petty blog war can just have at it. But don't expect that all of the members of LGF are going to like it, or remain silent about it.

Maybe a step back and a deep breath is in order for everyone. Or maybe not, I don't know. And before anyone suggests that I FOAD, I haven't typed any of this as an accusation or personal insult toward anyone. It's just my opinion.

/rant off

233 bp sf  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:45:49am

Another Yom Kippur kid memory was all my older relatives who went in the bathroom to smoke.

234 bp sf  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:48:17am

It's 5768...can't we all get along?

235 bp sf  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:48:49am

He scores! Hat Trick!

236 bp sf  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:50:23am

Four on the floor.

237 bp sf  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:50:47am

Five card trolley.

238 bp sf  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:51:12am

Six pack at sundown.

239 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:51:42am

re: #232 Corpsman Mom

You should post more often! :-)

Not to worry - this will pass. (I have seen WAY worse in my many years here at LGF.) Of course, there may be a lot of dead bodies strewn all over the floor...

240 bp sf  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:51:55am

Seven come eleven.

241 Render  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:52:26am

re: #231 littleoldlady

My Mom qualifies as a little old lady (and makes chicken & dumplings that I could eat until bursting), and she flies quite often, (sometimes by plane instead of broom).

Mom travels with a handicap assistance dog, an extremely well trained large red female Doberman.

I'm still waiting to hear Mom say they tried to cavity search the dog...

WOOF,
R

242 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:53:27am

re: #233 bp sf

WOW! Your family musta been really religious!

"I'm going for a walk..."
"Where are you going?"
"Just far enough so they can't see me from the front door of the synagogue!"

243 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:54:37am

re: #232 Corpsman Mom

Well, IMO, Hwy 395 is a GCP nic. I'll leave it to Charles to sort it out.

/please notice that it abruptly dropped in, claiming a desire for late night edification, made a huge fuss, and then promptly ran away with no intention of defending itself

244 MODERATIONIST[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:55:38am
245 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:58:26am

re: #241 Render

My mom is 85 years old, a survivor of Auschwitz (tattoo on her arm), and somewhere around 4' 9 or 10 inches tall.

Last year they pulled her out of line and made her take her shoes off.

/Bubbe abuse!

246 Corpsman Mom  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:58:30am

re: #239 littleoldlady

Thank you again :-)

247 bp sf  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:59:21am

littleoldlady...they were, and a lot of their weird customs on this day have passed on with them, remembered so fondly.

I'm serious about the football game, kids got kicked out of shul in the afternoon while our parents grieved for their parents.

248 Corpsman Mom  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:01:29am

re: #243 Killian Bundy

I've seen that particular individual in here on several occasions attempting to join in the conversation. It's not always an easy thing for a new (or not so new) person to do here. I'm not discounting your opinion, just sharing what I've seen.

And with that, I'm finished with the topic. I have to get all this left over fruit cup properly refrigerated.

249 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:05:52am

re: #248 Corpsman Mom

Fair enough.

/that said, I won't take, IMO, unjustified personal attacks lying down

250 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:07:44am

re: #247 bp sf

We got kicked out during Yizkor, too! But they wouldn't let us leave the building because they knew we wouldn't come back. ;-) There was a "designated yeller" who came out every few minutes to beg us to be quiet.

We actually belonged to an orthodox shul in the "old neighborhood" - not because we were orthodox, but that's where the Europeans were members and my parents felt more comfortable there. Rabbi did his sermons in Yiddish.

Unfortunately, these days I have to stay for Yizkor. :-(

251 Corpsman Mom  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:15:03am

re: #249 Killian Bundy

re: #248 Corpsman Mom

Fair enough.

/that said, I won't take, IMO, unjustified personal attacks lying down

That reminds me, without going into the whole discussion again, I had the same experience he did. My screen showed a person made a comment to you, and you responded to the comment. You quoted the comment, but it showed a different author than the original comment. It was almost like you saw one name on your screen and we saw a different one on ours. It was confusing and freaky.

My apologies for my 3rd grade grammar and sentence structure. I couldn't figure out a way to s'plain it and sound intelligent at the same time. lol

252 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:17:48am

Feds Target Blackwater in Weapons Probe

Federal prosecutors are investigating whether employees of the private security firm Blackwater USA illegally smuggled into Iraq weapons that may have been sold on the black market and ended up in the hands of a U.S.-designated terrorist organization, officials said Friday.

/the plot thickens

253 gettinby  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:20:05am

Hi everyone!

A DING can be a bad thing...as in I'm going to DING that post. :(

A DING can be a good thing...as in, DING-DING-DING! A winner! :)

And, my favorite, the all-time fun DING!

254 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:21:07am

re: #251 Corpsman Mom

It was deliberate on my part.

/sock puppets

255 mrsoc  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:23:55am

re: #35 Cornholio

re: #29 Afterimage

If those passengers were stranded for 45 minutes heads should roll at the agancies responsible.

I'd be steamed if my family were trapped for 45 minutes inside a plane with two terrorists. While the cops at the airport just sat around. But nobody cares about the 45 passengers. The authorities just want the plane on the ground so the terrorists don't crash the plane into a building.

Face it, if you're onboard an airplane which is hijacked like on 9/11, our own Air Force will shoot it down, killing all passengers
aboard.


When did that happen? Oh, it didn't? Dumbass.

256 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:24:19am

gettinby! :-)

/you bad!

257 gettinby  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:24:36am

re: #234 bp sf

It's 5768...can't we all get along?

LOL

/Charles needs to change the calendars in his search function. ;)

258 Corpsman Mom  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:24:41am

re: #254 Killian Bundy

Well that explains quite a bit...about several things. I guess those of us who aren't privvy to the little games are not only ignorant, but suspect. What fun.

I think I'll just let my comment #232 speak for me regarding this issue and I'll go back to reading.

259 Da_Beerfreak  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:24:42am

re: #251 Corpsman Mom

There are some new problems with formatting nested quotes. I too have seen cases where two posters had different nic's for the same post number in their reply's.
Until Charles fixes the auto quote function I will avoid using it.

260 hayseed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:27:00am

Good Morning All...for all that care,with25 minutes to go
Germany1-N.Korea 0 .N.Korea is really putting on the pressure though.

USA. playe England at 8:00...Germany scores again now 2-0

261 gettinby  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:29:20am

re: #256 littleoldlady

gettinby! :-)

/you bad!

Thank you!

/I'm learning from the bestuvem here.

Another suggestion...There's the Lizard Lounge for fun and frolic, right?!

What about another "room" for yelling at one another? Maybe like a "Lizards Letting Loose Lounge" ? ?

262 Corpsman Mom  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:29:57am

re: #259 Da_Beerfreak

Thank you for your reply. In this case it appears that it was done deliberately as part of the on-going gang war. I'm with several others who have decided they don't need the aggravation. If I need aggravation I can call my ex. lol

263 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:31:04am
264 hayseed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:31:22am

Germany 3 N.Korea 0 I'm loviv it!

265 hayseed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:32:55am

pimf loving it time toget coffee,been up watchin football since 4:00

266 mrsoc  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:34:50am

re: #116 Sharmuta

re: #110 Killian Bundy

Must be when the gcp sock puppets like to strike.

I seem to have lost this to a small stroke-what is GCP?

267 Da_Beerfreak  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:35:08am

re: #262 Corpsman Mom

You are welcomed.
// {;-)™

268 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:35:31am

re: #261 gettinby

What about another "room" for yelling at one another? Maybe like a "Lizards Letting Loose Lounge" ? ?

I LIKE IT! We could have different "rooms" for different purposes.

/good thing we don't know each other in real life. you and I could be dangerous together! LOL!

269 gettinby  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:42:30am

re: #268 littleoldlady

ROFLM*O

I'm stealing this line...

Shut your festering gob, you tit!

/should make for a fun time next time Mr. GBy wants to argue with me!

/good thing we don't know each other in real life. you and I could be dangerous together! LOL!

Hmmm...could we make any money at it?!?

:D

270 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:43:50am

re: #266 mrsoc

re: #116 Sharmuta


re: #110 Killian Bundy

Must be when the gcp sock puppets like to strike.


I seem to have lost this to a small stroke-what is GCP?

its a 'rival' blog

271 mrsoc  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:44:51am

re: #270 albusteve

Thank you. I appreciate your answer.

272 vxbush  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:45:19am

Morning, everyone. I have a few minutes to talk before I have to go into work (groan). I suppose I should be thankful that it's only for a few hours, and it's for a good cause, but it does rather interfere with my original plans for the day.

What's the word today?

273 The Albatross  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:46:28am

Confederate Yankee might pick up the story and develop it more,
He's not far from there.

45 minutes with bad guys though is what some victims of bank robbery get... or more.

Nice catch. Too bad the whole plane didn't go whoop ass on em.

274 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:46:54am

re: #262 Corpsman Mom

No, I did it to expose an example of sock puppet hypocrisy, complaining about them while maintaining same.

/besides that, I couldn't care less

275 The Albatross  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:47:26am

RE: #272

Good morning back at you vxbush,

It ain't all bad... this lizard has to go in too.

276 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:47:36am

re: #269 gettinby

Hmmm...could we make any money at it?!?

Hey! That's MY line! ;-)

vxbush! :-)

277 vxbush  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:52:33am

Albatross, littleoldlady

Good to see you two; hope you are well. Albatross, I hope you only have to go in for a bit. Work sometimes isn't fun!

278 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:58:16am

Marcia Clark now reporting on O.J.

/and time has not been kind

279 gettinby  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:01:06am

re: #272 vxbush

Hi vxbush!

This lizard, alsotoo, must leave for work. (Which is the correct word?)

/what ever happened to the saying "getting the weekend off?"!

Y'all have a great and wondrous day.

280 The Albatross  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:01:51am

Heh vxbush,

That's why they call it "work".

I've been grappling with some post surgical medical issues, but I'm good Thanks.

This is my respite before the drudgery, and when I come home I'll check in to see what's shaking.

Hope you have a good day...as for me, I'm ready to roll (and get it over with as quickly as possible).

281 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:02:15am

re: #278 Killian Bundy

Marcia Clark now reporting on O.J.

/and time has not been kind

How old do you think she is?

282 vxbush  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:02:41am

re: #279 gettinby

It's too early for me to think about which is the "correct" word! And I needed the weekend off so I could help the hubby finish the deck. We have to get it done today!

Okay, two more minutes and then I'm outta here.

Oh, re: Marcia Clark: let's just say time isn't kind to all of us at some point.

283 gettinby  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:03:16am

re: #276 littleoldlady

Hey! That's MY line! ;-)

LOL...I know...told you...I'm learning from the bestuvem!

{littleoldlady}

284 vxbush  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:05:03am

re: #280 The Albatross

Glad to hear you're well. I had a procedure done last week, and the doctor seemed quite pleased yesterday. Lots of good news there and perhaps a solution! Always nice when they get it right.

And I know it's "work"; I also know it's a pain sometimes.

Okay, time to go; I'll see if I can check in later once the deck is done!

285 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:05:27am

Have a great day, gettinby! :-)

/don't worry about me...I'll sit in the dark*
// *punchline to "How many Jewish mothers does it take to change a lightbulb?"

286 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:06:10am

re: #281 littleoldlady

In her fifties?

/can I Google?

287 hayseed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:06:27am

Final Germany 3 N.Koreao 0...feel sorry for the Korean women. what does the great leader have in store for them?

288 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:07:43am

re: #284 vxbush

YAY! I hope you mend quickly.

289 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:09:07am

re: #287 hayseed

Final Germany 3 N.Koreao 0...feel sorry for the Korean women. what does the great leader have in store for them?

/eating tree bark, something that occurs in no other country?

290 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:09:39am

re: #286 Killian Bundy

Killian,

Sure you can google! I just wanted to know what "time hasn't been kind" means. I think she looks pretty good, depending upon her age.

/then again, I have first-hand knowledge as to what kind of hard work goes into making wrinkles...

291 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:16:48am

re: #290 littleoldlady

Yep, she's in her fifties, could use some Botox.

/Deborah Harry is much older and looks better

292 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:16:53am

Oy. She's younger than I am.

293 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:18:27am

re: #291 Killian Bundy

Killian,

Never underestimate the power of DNA.

/I come from wrinkled people. :-/

294 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:22:14am

Uh, Killian? That looks like some pretty serious plastic surgery on Ms. Harry.

295 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:23:18am

re: #293 littleoldlady

Never underestimate the power of DNA.

/I come from wrinkled people. :-/

/well, for sure I won't be entering any beauty contests, I took advantage of my heyday long ago and it has now passed

296 Aylios  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:26:29am

The whole length of the article I was wondering about the ethnicity of the suspects and imagine my surprise when they turned out to be 'middle eastern'.

Now I can hold my breath until we find out what religion they follow. As we all know there are many Christians and Jews in the ME, so it was probalby one of those radical Zionists but there was this one other religion ... dangit what was it again?

Ah I remember! Zoroastrianism. Yes that must be it, they were undoubtedly radical middle-eastern Zoroastrians!

297 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:27:28am

re: #295 Killian Bundy

well, for sure I won't be entering any beauty contests, I took advantage of my heyday long ago and it has now passed

Can we talk about something else now?

;-)

298 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:30:04am

re: #294 Irene NYC

Uh, Killian? That looks like some pretty serious plastic surgery on Ms. Harry.

/sure, but she can afford it

299 hayseed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:36:18am

re: #291 Killian Bundy

killian I loved Blondie...also had a thing for Diane Chai from the alley cats. she plays a preety mean bass

300 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:36:48am

Killian Bundy (#291),

I see 25 years later Blondie still sucks live.

One of my favorite bands.

301 hayseed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:37:02am

hows about a link for Diane Chai

302 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:44:50am

Another rock and roller who hasn't changed a bit.

303 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:47:35am
THE West was still underestimating the evil of Islam, an influential Muslim thinker has warned, insisting that Australia and the US have been duped into believing there is a difference between the religion's moderate and radical interpretations.

On a two-week "under the radar" visit to Australia, Syrian-born Wafa Sultan secretly met both sides of federal politics and Jewish community leaders, warning them that all Muslims needed to be closely monitored in the West.

In an interview with The Australian, Dr Sultan -- who shot to recognition last year following an interview on al-Jazeera television in which she attacked Islam and the prophet Mohammed -- said Muslims were "brainwashed" from an early age to believe Western values were evil and that the world would one day come under the control of Sharia law. The US-based psychiatrist -- who has two fatwas (religious rulings) issued against her to be killed -- warned that Muslims would continue to exploit freedom of speech in the West to spread their "hate" and attack their adopted countries, until the Western mind grasped the magnitude of the Islamic threat. "You're fighting someone who is willing to die," Dr Sultan told The Australian in an Arabic and English interview. "So you have to understand this mentality and find ways to face it. (As a Muslim) your mission on this earth is to fight for Islam and to kill or to be killed. You're here for only a short life and once you kill a kafir, or a non-believer, soon you're going to be united with your God."


Thank you! [Link: ummahnewslinks.com...]

304 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:49:01am

re: #301 hayseed

hows about a link for Diane Chai

Righteous.

/how about some Vanilla Mood?

305 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:49:37am

hayseed (#299),

Ally Cats were totally underrated. Excellent musicians that completely captured the sound of that era.

306 hayseed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:50:56am
307 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:53:00am

littleoldlady (#302),

LOL.

308 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:54:39am

Geeps! :-)

309 hayseed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:54:52am

re: #304 Killian Bundy

killian how did you know I like oriental?

310 BenZacharia  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:55:39am

re: #305 Geepers

Stray cats? Brian Setzer?

311 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:56:02am

Mohammad cat.

312 BenZacharia  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:56:27am

re: #311 storagemanager

Cat stevens

313 hayseed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:57:19am

Geepers it seems bands from that time could put a big sound for being small groups.

time for USA womens team vs England. go USA USA USA USA!

314 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:58:32am
'God' responds to senator's lawsuit
GOD has apparently responded to a lawsuit filed by a Nebraska legislator, and one of the filings seems to have dropped in from the heavens. "This one miraculously appeared on the counter. It just all of a sudden was here, poof!" said John Friend, clerk of the Douglas County District Court in Omaha, US.

The response was one of at least two to a lawsuit filed against God last week by state Senator Ernie Chambers of Omaha, the state's longest-serving legislator. Chambers said in his five-page lawsuit that God has made terror threats against him and his constituents, inspired fear and caused "widespread death, destruction and terrorisation of millions upon millions of Earth's inhabitants." Signed by "God", the response argues the defendant is immune from some earthly laws and that the court lacks jurisdiction over God. "I created man and woman with free will and next to the promise of immortal life, free will is my greatest gift to you," according to the response.


[Link: www.gulf-daily-news.com...]

315 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:59:01am

re: #312 BenZacharia

re: #311 storagemanager

Cat stevens

Very good lol

316 littleoldlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:59:30am

Well, boys [Killian] and girls, I have to go get ready for services. Because you know [Killian] that in my old age [Killian] it takes much longer these days to look presentable.

/forget "good". I'm going for "clean and presentable"

Good day, ALL!™

Oh wait...{BenZ!}

317 hayseed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:00:21am

the world can come to a stop now, womens world cup futball! Live from China.

318 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:00:28am

littleoldlady!

319 BenZacharia  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:00:43am

re: #316 littleoldlady

Buh bye {LoL}

320 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:01:56am
Dealing With Mahmoud
Former New York City mayor Ed Koch was on Glenn Beck's television show last night and he had this solution to Ahmadinejad visiting Ground Zero.

An all Jewish police escort.

Now that would be interesting to watch

[Link: mypetjawa.mu.nu...]

321 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:02:14am

re: #309 hayseed

killian how did you know I like oriental?

I had no idea.

/corinthian leather

322 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:04:16am
London, Sept. 21 (PTI): A Muslim preacher who chanted "Allah-o-Akbar" (God is great) while showing children film of planes flying into the World Trade Centre has been suspended as a chaplain at a hospital here.

Usman Ali, 30, a former member of the now-banned al-Muhajiroun radical movement, was removed from his post after police expressed serious concerns, media reported today. Ali was ousted from his job at the Queen Elizabeth Hospital in Woolwich, south-east London, after a BBC London investigation into the incident

[Link: www.hindu.com...]

323 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:04:41am

BenZacharia (#310),

Stray cats? Brian Setzer?

I'm a big Stray Cats fan too. Hung out back stage at the Agora in '80.

And the Brian Setzer Orchastra. Good stuff there for sure.

324 Sheldon  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:04:46am

re: #26 nyc redneck

isn't this kind of thing always a moslem? when is it not motivated by islam? it's difficult to keep being open minded. we joke abt. it being a baptist, or hindu or jew but that never quite happens. when will it NOT be a moslem?

When this country is called North Arabia

325 BenZacharia  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:07:33am

Coming right up

Isaiah 17:1 JPS
1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.

Israel to Syria: Use chem weapons & we'll wipe you off map

326 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:07:59am
KABUL - A top NATO commander said Thursday that a shipment of weapons intercepted by international forces in western Afghanistan this month clearly came from Iran and almost certainly was sent here with the knowledge of "at least the Iranian military."

U.S. Army Gen. Dan K. McNeill, NATO's senior commander in Afghanistan, said a convoy of weapons captured Sept. 6 in the far western province of Farah, which shares a long border with Iran, was transporting "upscale" roadside bombs that had the hallmarks of those made in Iran and used with lethal regularity against U.S. forces in Iraq

Welcome to New York Mr . President...How many of us have you killed today? [Link: www.iranpressnews.com...]

327 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:09:27am

re: #325 BenZacharia

Coming right up

Isaiah 17:1 JPS
1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.

Israel to Syria: Use chem weapons & we'll wipe you off map

It shall cease to be a city...forever.

328 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:09:29am

storagemanager Link King (#322),

London, Sept. 21 (PTI): A Muslim preacher who chanted "Allah-o-Akbar" (God is great) while showing children film of planes flying into the World Trade Centre has been suspended as a chaplain at a hospital here.

That was in Britian? Gotta be a misprint.

329 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:09:52am

re: #314 storagemanager

This is a strange story: Some man was cursing God loudly and in a very profane and insulting way demanding to know why God allowed some things to happen. An eagle dropped a 5 pound turtle on his head while he was in mid-blasphemy. I think the turtle lived. (Ostrog, Montenegro, 1950's - other details unknown)

330 BenZacharia  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:10:36am

Geepers (323)

So there was an Alley Cats too?

Met Brian back in '99 at the Pickett Suites downtown we talked for a bit about Cols.

331 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:11:48am
My mother and father told me to ignore the bully in my life and “they” would go away. Today, they might tell me to be tolerant and understanding. After all, they may have suffered some terrible circumstance that caused them to behave in this manner. Miserable, terrible advice or so I learned the hard way!

As we have grown up, the bullies in life have also grown up. They still seek power and submission. They still gather a crowd of supporters to laugh and jeer at their victims. They just want their own way on their own terms.

As I said, I learned the hard way; the only way to stop a bully and win is a show of strength. Pres. Ahmadinejad, Osama and their friends are the most sophisticated bullies I have yet to see. In their case, being a bully is built on a belief system, Islam, or submission. Until we truly understand this and respond accordingly we will always be at the mercy of the bullies and have you ever seen a merciful bully?

[Link: blog.americancongressfortruth.com...]

332 BenZacharia  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:14:01am

Got another.

MacBeth redux

More waiting in the wings?

333 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:15:17am
Iran warns West against attack 8:12am EDT
TEHRAN (Reuters) - Iran told Western powers on Saturday that they would regret launching any attack over Tehran's nuclear activities and it rolled out a display of missiles and other hardware that underscored its warning

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

334 BenZacharia  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:16:14am

re: #332 BenZacharia

Oops! it IS MacBeth. So sarry.

335 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:17:49am
336 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:18:17am
Coalition for Peace-Fayyazi
There is a persistent voice for peace in the current troubled world and every individual in the international community is committed to achieve more secure and decent future for humanity, Managing Director of the Islamic Republic News Agency (IRNA) Jalal Fayyazi said on Saturday.

He said in his statement on the occasion of "The International Day for Peace" that the international community needs to make collective efforts to achieve peace.


Then throw away the Koran...admit Mohammad was a liar...and treat your neighbor as yourself. [Link: www2.irna.com...]

337 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:20:12am

BenZacharia (#330),

Yup, and both three member bands too; guitar, base and drums.

338 BenZacharia  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:22:52am

Geepers (337)

Well I'll be jiggered.

Battle of the Bands, Alley Cats v. Stray Cats

339 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:23:34am
Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has issued a tough warning to any country considering an attack on Iran.
He said Iran's forces were just for defence, but that anybody who attacked would experience nothing but regret.

He urged those he called the occupiers in the region - an apparent reference to the US and its allies in Iraq - to admit defeat and withdraw their troops.

Welcome to New York Mr President...where should we park your tank? [Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

340 BenZacharia  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:26:06am

SWAT descends on Amish compound, muslim compounds still safe from intrusion.

341 BenZacharia  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:27:35am

TTFN™, off to wake the wifffeee and such.

342 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:30:28am

storagemanager (#339),

He said Iran's forces were just for defence, but that anybody who attacked would experience nothing but regret.

Gosh, that sounds exactly like what Saddam was saying around 2002.

343 BulgarWheat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:31:52am

Terrorist incident @ RDU.

This is my airport, and it was barely mentioned on local news last night.

I think Ed of many names mentioned this being a Turbo Prop aircraft. American Eagle on flies Regional Jets out of RDU, along with conventional jets. No turbo props.

I'm curious what we're going to find out about this in the coming days.

344 kcladderman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:35:22am

re: #340 BenZacharia

SWAT descends on Amish compound, muslim compounds still safe from intrusion.


From the article,
Anyone who knows me knows I will never hurt any child, whether they’re Amish or English,” Abdalla said
You can't be both?

345 FriarsTale  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:36:39am

hey, today the airport thing was all just a misunderstanding!

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

maybe even a satire?

346 kcladderman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:38:06am

re: #342 Geepers

storagemanager (#339),

He said Iran's forces were just for defence, but that anybody who attacked would experience nothing but regret.

Gosh, that sounds exactly like what Saddam was saying around 2002.


My only regret is we did not do it in 1979. It might have prevented a lot of innocent deaths over the years.

347 BulgarWheat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:38:38am

[Link: www.wral.com...]

Link to RDU airport incident.

Nothing to see here folks, move along.

348 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:40:11am

kcladderman (#344),

Amish use "English" for not Amish.

349 FriarsTale  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:41:21am

re: #347 BulgarWheat

yeah, but they don't say what the suspicious activity was...

a dry run, perhaps?

350 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:43:29am

Good morning, Lizards.

I havne't read the thread--were the two suspects restrained?

351 kcladderman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:43:47am

re: #348 Geepers

I did not know that.Still sounded kinda odd coming from the sheriff.

352 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:45:14am

kcladderman (#346),

Hey, Jimmy lowered the speed limit to 55MPH. Just how much do you expect one man to do?

353 Just_A_Grunt  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:45:49am

We have another candidate for "Mother of the Year"
Mom accused of being getaway driver for ring of young robbers

ATLANTA (Map, News) - Fulton County police are looking for a mother who may have driven the getaway car for her 12-year-old son and a large group of young teens suspected of committing hundreds of home robberies in the last few months.

Police believe 36-year-old Lakechia (pronounced la-KEE-sha) Woodard drove the children and a car full of stolen merchandise to a pawn shop in at least one burglary. Detectives have arrested at least 25 teens -- including Woodard's 12-year-old son -- for robberies in new subdivisions off of Camp Creek Parkway in suburban Atlanta.

Police say Woodard has an arrest record that includes fraud charges.

354 hayseed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:49:44am

at the break USA 0 England 0

355 FriarsTale  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:50:21am

re: #350 goddessoftheclassroom

Good morning, Lizards.

I havne't read the thread--were the two suspects restrained?

now it was all a "misunderstanding"


[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

can you say "dry run?"

356 Just_A_Grunt  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:50:52am

And in the "Nothing to see here, move along" department.
N.Korea's Kim Meets Syrian Delegation

SEOUL, South Korea (Map, News) - North Korea's No. 2 leader met with a Syrian delegation in Pyongyang on Saturday, the North's media reported, amid suspicions of a secret nuclear connection between the two countries.

Kim Yong Nam, head of the North's rubber-stamp legislature and titular head of state, had "a friendly talk" with the Syrian delegation, led by Saaeed Eleia Dawood, director of the organizational department of Syria's Baath Arab Socialist Party, the North's Korean Central News Agency reported.

The Syrian official expressed satisfaction that the "friendly and cooperative ties" between the two countries "are growing stronger under the deep care" of Syria's President Bashar Al-Assad and North Korean leader Kim Jong Il, KCNA said.

357 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:52:20am
YORKTOWN, Ind. — A man accused of snatching another man's false teeth straight from his mouth during a fight has been charged with robbery.

Robert Henry Stahl, 62, was charged Thursday in Delaware Circuit Court with felony robbery and battery causing bodily injury, a misdemeanor. If convicted of robbery, he could face two to eight years in prison.

Billie Townsend, 56, told police that he went to a bar on July 27 to pay Stahl money he owed him, when Stahl asked him outside and started punching him repeatedly.

During the fight, Stahl allegedly put Townsend in a headlock and removed his false teeth. "He said, 'You ain't getting these back,"' Townsend told police.

Stahl was not present at Thursday's hearing and the prosecutor did not seek a warrant for his arrest. Another hearing was scheduled for Oct. 22.

Stahl had no number in published listings for Yorktown or Muncie and he could not be reached for comment Friday. Police and prosecutors said they did not know if Stahl had retained an attorney.

A proud member of the OJ school of robbery [Link: www.foxnews.com...]

358 GreenDroll  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:54:15am

"serious incident on American Eagle Flight 518 from Jacksonville."

followed by

"A federal investigation determined there was no threat aboard an American Eagle flight on which a flight attendant reported that two passengers were acting suspiciously, an FBI spokesman said early Saturday"

= dry run

359 Fredlike  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:55:17am

re: #348 Geepers

kcladderman (#344),

Amish use "English" for not Amish.

Was the sheriff a former Amish? Seems weird for a non-amish to use that expression. It also seems weird for an Amish to threaten to kill someone.

360 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:01:10am
One truck carried the words "Death to America".

Western military experts say Iranian forces would be no match for U.S. military technology but that they could still create havoc in the Gulf and Strait of Hormuz, through which a large volume of the world's traded oil passes.

Jafari admitted Western powers enjoyed air superiority but suggested Iran would be able to outwit them. Asked how Iran would respond if any country allowed its territory to be used as a base for an attack, he said: "You have seen the missiles -- just pull the trigger and shoot."


The stupid American people...welcome you to New York Mr. President...where would you like to SPIT first? [Link: www.reuters.com...]

361 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:02:14am
Sept. 22; Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and other dignitaries watch as military jeeps carry anti-U.S. and anti-Israel slogans during large-scale military parades to mark the 27th anniversary of the Iraqi invasion of Iran in Tehran.

And we wonder why Columbia University invites Ahmadinejad to speak.

362 FrogMarch  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:03:10am
Middle Eastern descent

No way. There must be some mistake. That's racist!

The terrorists have be two knuckle dragging white guys.
have.. to ..be!

363 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:05:38am

Good morning Y'all from a summery like (72 degees, going up to 91 degrees) cloudy Charlotte!
How is everyone this fine day?

364 Just_A_Grunt  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:06:29am

US -1
England - 0
World Cup

365 hayseed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:06:53am

re: #364 Just_A_Grunt

yahooo!

366 Just_A_Grunt  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:07:04am

re: #364 Just_A_Grunt

US -1
England - 0
World Cup

Just started 2nd half

367 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:08:44am

The lovely and talented Jeneane Garofalo was flapping her gums again last night.

Ink-Stained Wretch: "Bush a War Criminal"

Be sure not to allow children or those with heart conditions to see the photo of this beast.

368 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:09:11am

re: #366 Just_A_Grunt For those of us who don't follow soccer, er, football, is this like the "Final" game to determine the World's Champ?

369 akak  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:09:47am

[Link: www.newsobserver.com...]

FBI: No threat on plane that landed at RDU
He would not comment on what the flight attendant thought she saw.

cair commentlawsuit in 5,4,3,2,1

370 Just_A_Grunt  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:10:29am

re: #368 realwest

re: #366 Just_A_Grunt For those of us who don't follow soccer, er, football, is this like the "Final" game to determine the World's Champ?

No this is a quarter final game, however it is win or go home.

371 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:12:47am

re: #367 JammieWearingFool Morning Jammie!
Uh, went to your blog, then to Ms. Underestimated and still couldn't tell, what television show was Ms. Garafalo on when she made these truly illuminating observations?

372 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:13:27am

Sad news to report: George C. Looney survives motorcycle wreck, only breaks a rib.

373 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:13:43am

{realwest}

I'm doing okay. It's cloudy here in Western PA, too. I have TONS of paperwork to do today.

Notice that I still find time to comment here...

374 Just_A_Grunt  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:13:45am

The last time our womens team lost a game was some time back in 2004. They have had some ties in that time but no loses.
Like they say this is the greatest sports team in America that you have never heard of, going back to the 90's.

375 Bob's Kid  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:14:14am
can you say "dry run?"

But even if it is, I hope they realize that people these days will not take that sort of behavior lying down any more. Not after 9-11. And I suspect that the more things like this get publicized, the more likely people (rational people, not nutcases) will be willing to go out on a limb to stop it.

376 FrogMarch  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:14:17am

re: #367 JammieWearingFool

The lovely and talented Jeneane Garofalo was flapping her gums again last night.

Ink-Stained Wretch: "Bush a War Criminal"

Be sure not to allow children or those with heart conditions to see the photo of this beast.

OMG. She's really turned herself into something freakish.
I suppose that's what obsessive blind-faith hatred does to people.

377 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:14:54am

re: #371 realwest

Bill Maher. Ms. Underestimated has a video link at the bottom. I'm waiting on a Youtube version.

378 Just_A_Grunt  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:15:21am

US - 2
England - 0

379 hayseed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:15:32am

we score again

380 Bob's Kid  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:15:46am

re: #373 goddessoftheclassroom

{realwest}

I'm doing okay. It's cloudy here in Western PA, too. I have TONS of paperwork to do today.

Notice that I still find time to comment here...

Ah, it's why I never bring things home to grade. I learned a long time ago I wouldn't do it, so why pretend!

(get to work at 6 AM instead)

Whoa...it just started to rain here. Ahhh...

381 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:16:24am
The Islamic Republic of Iran is to expand cultural, scientific and educational cooperation with Afghanistan, it was announced on Saturday.

According to the Public Relations Department of the Presidential Office, the decision to this effect was made by President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in a directive to the Ministry of Culture and Islamic Guidance to confirm the cultural, scientific and educational agreement between Iran and Afghanistan on Saturday.

The agreement consists of one introduction and 14 articles which got approval of Majlis and the Guardian Council. It lets the two counties exchange relative documentation to broaden mutual ties.

The agreement is to provide suitable opportunities for both sides to enhance cultural and Islamic arts.

The agreement covers a wide range of cultural, scientific and academic cooperation between the two countries.

And roadside bombs to kill American troops fighting for that hell hole. [Link: www2.irna.com...]

382 hayseed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:18:30am

oh yes!

383 Just_A_Grunt  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:18:35am

USA -3
England - 0

384 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:19:57am

re: #369 akak Hey, thanks a lot for that post - I was flipping through all the flippin' TV news shows hoping to hear about it and ...nada.
Hell, Fox even spent a disproportionate amount of time on Brittany! - whether or not her walking around nude in front of her one and two year old kids was "decent" or some such, but nothing on terror.
They DID sorta slam Rudy's appearance before the NRA - he apparently pulled a gag he stole from Mitt Romney and pretended (or maybe did) to take a call from his wife while at the podium - and surprise, surprise, surprise, Rudy didn't go over too well the the Lance Kates NRA audience. But no word at all about the topic of this thread.

385 FrogMarch  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:20:07am

The Iranian regime must be crushed. The 70%+ people of Iran deserve better.

If we crush dinnerjacket and his mad-mullahs - the left will be pissed.
Double plus good -- I say we do it. It's looong over due.

386 hayseed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:20:11am

re: #383 Just_A_Grunt

on the bbc boards I predicted 3-1 USA, this is good!

387 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:20:53am

re: #370 Just_A_Grunt Thank you kindly for that answer. If the US wins, do they know yet who they'll face next?

388 Annelid[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:22:02am
389 BulgarWheat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:22:40am

#383 Just_A_Grunt

Is this on ESPN? What channel?

390 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:23:09am

Drink up.

Munich mayor taps Oktoberfest barrel

Npthing like that first beer of the morning.

391 Attaboid  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:23:18am

re: #175 U.S. 395

Hear Here! :)

392 Just_A_Grunt  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:23:34am

re: #387 realwest

re: #370 Just_A_Grunt Thank you kindly for that answer. If the US wins, do they know yet who they'll face next?

Not yet. It will be winner of the Australia - Brazil game I believe.

393 Just_A_Grunt  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:24:04am

re: #389 BulgarWheat

#383 Just_A_Grunt

Is this on ESPN? What channel?

ESPN2

394 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:24:05am

re: #388 Annelid

I know the neighborhood. Shame I wasn't around so I could laugh at him.

395 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:25:22am

re: #377 JammieWearingFool

Ah, that explains it. I wouldn't shower, wash my hair or otherwise give a damn about my appearance for the Bill Maher show either; all ya gotta do is slam the Looney Left Liberal's favorite targets and you'll do alright, so why clean up (especially when you manifestly think so little of yourself).

396 hayseed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:26:11am

I,ll be rooting for the Aussies myself...for the Aussie Lizards

397 akak  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:26:31am

re: #384 realwest

Your welcome Realwest. It took a while to find, probably 45 minutes.

Wonder what the stewardess saw? Not what the FBI CAIR sensitivity trained agent has to say

398 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:27:48am

re: #373 {goddessoftheclassroom} good morning back atcha! Um, this paperwork woudn't have anything to do with your getting your PhD now,
would it? Cause if it does, then, ya know, you're gonna have to get on it sooner or later!
Other than the paperwork, how are y'all doing this morning?

399 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:29:42am

re: #380 Bob's Kid Good morining to you! Um where is it that you're at that you're getting rain(he says with GREAT envy in his heart!)?

400 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:31:13am

re: #398 realwest

This paperwork is making a grocery list, grading essay (which I've put off for a disgracefully long time), editing articles for the school paper (I'm now the adviser), paying bills, and filling out forms for the child and spousal support hearing on Thursday.

The Ph.D.? Well, maybe next month...

401 Just_A_Grunt  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:31:35am

We definitely need some rain in GA. We are under a total ban on outdoor watering now because of the drought. We are 14" below normal.

402 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:31:53am

JammieWearingFool (#390),

The First Drink of the Day.

403 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:32:31am

re: #385 FrogMarch Um, I certainly have no problem with "regime change" in Iran, that's for sure, but just how do we achieve that without killing several thousand (if not more) and what did you mean by the "70+% people of Iran"?

404 Attaboid  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:34:18am

re: #402 Geepers

Scary.

405 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:34:47am

re: #402 Geepers

JammieWearingFool (#390),

The First Drink of the Day.

good one...flying monkeys playin strats...some rockin horns...GOOD MORNING!

406 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:35:58am

Um, Just_A_Grunt, Hayseed, Bulgar Wheat and anyone else I've missed - sorry to interrupt your watching of the game, but good morning to y'all (you don't have to reply to this comment either).

407 Bob's Kid  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:37:34am

re: #399 realwest

re: #380 Bob's Kid Good morining to you! Um where is it that you're at that you're getting rain(he says with GREAT envy in his heart!)?

It sure is unusual for this time of year, but I ain't complaining none. I hope it bodes well for a wet winter, as last winter was somewhat dry.

408 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:37:34am

re: #397 akak Yeah, I'm inclined to go with Bob's Kid on this one: dry run. Or else suicide bombers who chickened out).

409 Just_A_Grunt  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:37:37am

re: #406 realwest

morin'
No problem I have learned how to multi- task

410 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:38:06am

re: #403 realwest

re: #385 FrogMarch Um, I certainly have no problem with "regime change" in Iran, that's for sure, but just how do we achieve that without killing several thousand (if not more) and what did you mean by the "70+% people of Iran"?

we could starve them till they do it themselves I would think...

411 Bob's Kid  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:38:10am

Oh, I'm in Sacramento.

412 Bob's Kid  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:39:34am

re: #400 goddessoftheclassroom

None of that sounds live very much fun to me...especially that whole child support thingie.

And it's just the beginning.

[insert profanity of your choice here]

413 Perry  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:39:46am

re: #402 Geepers

I thought I was ready but still jumped out of my skin.

414 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:40:20am

re: #402 Geepers

JammieWearingFool (#390),

The First Drink of the Day.

I'm dizzy from watching that.

415 big L  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:41:11am

26 NYC redneck- I erad that the REd Chinese won't lef tMuslims fly commercial. Anyone else eversee that? If so it sure stops all these upsetting,disruptive "test" flights

416 hayseed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:42:16am

no problem realwest...now if Bama wins today it will be great!

417 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:42:57am

re: #402 Geepers ROTFLMAO! LOVED that one.
Course as a non-drinking alcoholic, I can only relate to it on a "memory" level, but still it's pretty damn funny!
How are you doing this fine morning my friend?

418 akak  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:43:55am
AVIATION SERVICES COMPANY AND ITS OWNER CHARGED WITH ILLEGAL EXPORTS TO IRAN AND ITS GOVERNMENT

[Link: washingtondc.fbi.gov...]

419 Just_A_Grunt  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:44:14am

re: #416 hayseed

no problem realwest...now if Bama wins today it will be great!

Rooting for Georgia Tech here. They play Virginia and after the way they looked last week, Tech that is, against Boston College I hope they have straightened up.

420 Just_A_Grunt  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:45:56am

re: #418 akak

AVIATION SERVICES COMPANY AND ITS OWNER CHARGED WITH ILLEGAL EXPORTS TO IRAN AND ITS GOVERNMENT

[Link: washingtondc.fbi.gov...]

It is a Dutch company based out of the Netherlands.

421 Bob's Kid  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:46:04am

re: #419 Just_A_Grunt

re: #416 hayseed

no problem realwest...now if Bama wins today it will be great!
Rooting for Georgia Tech here. They play Virginia and after the way they looked last week, Tech that is, against Boston College I hope they have straightened up.

Cal, always Cal. Go Bears!

/totally biased

422 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:46:39am

Course as a non-drinking alcoholic, I can only relate to it on a "memory" level, but still it's pretty damn funny!

good for you amigo...take alot of power to do that...

423 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:47:12am

re: #412 Bob's Kid

re: #400 goddessoftheclassroom

None of that sounds live very much fun to me...especially that whole child support thingie.

And it's just the beginning.

[insert profanity of your choice here]

My favorite expletive is "sugar!"

As much of a headache the fiddly legal stuff is, I can handle it with more equanimity than the uncertainty, tension, verbal abuse, iies, and betrayal of the past year and a half.

424 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:49:20am

re: #418 akak Whoa, another good one! A Dutch aviation services company? Operating out of the US?
Can y'all spell S-T-U-P-I-D ?! I hope those mofos get what's coming to 'em and more.
Somefolks will do ANYTHING for money (see, e.g., the aforementioned Brittany! and Garafalo.).

425 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:49:21am

Perry (#413),

Hey Perry.

Joel's got a way with it don't he?

426 Just_A_Grunt  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:51:59am

Final Score
USA - 3
England - 0

427 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:52:43am

JammieWearingFool (#414),

I'm dizzy from watching that.

Ah, then now is the time to Chill Out.

428 hayseed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:52:51am

another W for the Womens team. I will not say go girls mandy may get bent.lol

429 Bob's Kid  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:53:31am
As much of a headache the fiddly legal stuff is, I can handle it with more equanimity than the uncertainty, tension, verbal abuse, iies, and betrayal of the past year and a half.

Yep. At least you're solving a problem. Brings up a host of other problems, sure, but at least they're problems you can tackle. You can't change a spouse who is being a punk.

Whey my divorce was final (and like you I did not want to do it and put it off for a long time) people asked me if I felt sad about it. I said no, the sad part was the years when I fought and kicked and screamed to keep it going because I wanted to stay married and have a great marriage. When I had to admit that I failed at doing that (even though I know it was not my doing--logic has little place in dealings of the heart) hurt much more than the actual divorce, which was years later. The legalities were the least of the thing to me. The marriage was actually over a long time before that.

But I didn't have kids under 18. That makes it harder, and I just took all the bills because I knew he wouldn't pay them and I'd end up with them anyway eventually.

It isn't fun no matter how "easy" it goes.

430 Perry  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:53:40am

re: #425 Geepers

My kid was playing Fiesta on my computer and left the sound up. Zowee.

431 big L  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:53:51am

101 RTLM-- good for you. That desn't happen to most of us.

432 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:53:52am

Somebody go wake up Ed!
Rare hummingbird spotted in Wisconsin

BELOIT, Wis. - Birdwatchers are descending on a rural area near this southern Wisconsin community following the sighting of what is believed to be a green-breasted mango, a type of hummingbird commonly seen in parts of Mexico and Central America.

433 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:54:23am

re: #422 albusteve Thank you, but ya know - it really didn't take all that much - first week or so was unpleasant, and I did have to change my circle of friends (it's really amazing - some people that I used to think were hilarious when we were both drunk, turned out to be, well...
boring when I was sober and they were drunk.
And I had to give up hunting for women in bars, cause bars are boring when all you're drinking is coke and the women you meet, if they're lit up while you're sober, well they ain't all as attractive as they were when I was a drunk.
But like I said, after the first week or so, just NOT drinking was ok. No big problems (and yes, I was a MAJOR LEAGUE boozer, too.).
But I do appreciate your kind words!

434 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:54:47am

Good morning! Perhaps someone who's awake at this early hour can explain the acronym GCP. I asked last PM (may have been early AM), and I got #155 in response. I don't buy that explanation.

Upthread this AM, it was mentioned that it's a 'rival' blog. Excuse me? If it's a rival blog, why did I get gratuitous slatherings on #155?

It's a pretty simple question really, and since it appears to have something to do with spats and inside quarrels, I'd like to know what it is. I don't want to be 'inside', and there have been a few here who've pointed me, discretely, in the right direction. I'll turn on my email so you can do it that way if you'd rather not do it in comments.

435 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:57:19am

re: #433 realwest

re: #422 albusteve Thank you, but ya know - it really didn't take all that much - first week or so was unpleasant, and I did have to change my circle of friends (it's really amazing - some people that I used to think were hilarious when we were both drunk, turned out to be, well...
boring when I was sober and they were drunk.
And I had to give up hunting for women in bars, cause bars are boring when all you're drinking is coke and the women you meet, if they're lit up while you're sober, well they ain't all as attractive as they were when I was a drunk.
But like I said, after the first week or so, just NOT drinking was ok. No big problems (and yes, I was a MAJOR LEAGUE boozer, too.).
But I do appreciate your kind words!

its internal and that can make it tough tho...new sacrifices and such...as a rasta would say...respect mon...

436 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:57:21am

albusteve (#405),

flying monkeys playin strats...some rockin horns...GOOD MORNING!

No better way to start the day.

437 akak  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:57:22am

re: #420 Just_A_Grunt

buying US parts & shipping to Iran

438 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:58:06am

Dude, get some new material already.

Gore Meddling in Australian Election

439 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:58:17am

re: #434 Cap'n DOC

gulf coast pundit...where the people Charles banned here...go and rage about LGF.

440 akak  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:58:44am

gulfcoastpundit

441 goddessoftheclassroom  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:00:08am

re: #429 Bob's Kid


How uncannily alike our situations are.

442 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:00:23am

re: #434 Cap'n DOC

Gulf Coast Pundit is another blog site. Some who left here, some who post at both blogs...

443 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:00:35am

re: #434 Cap'n DOC


some one was spoofin you with the chemistry...I'm sure its a blog but I dont know what the acronym stands for...

444 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:00:53am

Attaboid (#404),

Scary.

Did you say Sweary?

What?

Oh, scary.

That too.

445 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:02:15am

re: #426 Just_A_Grunt

Final Score
USA - 3
England - 0

Proudly kicking England's arse for four centuries. (TM)

446 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:03:00am

re: #434 Cap'n DOC

Good morning! Perhaps someone who's awake at this early hour can explain the acronym GCP. I asked last PM (may have been early AM), and I got #155 in response. I don't buy that explanation.

Upthread this AM, it was mentioned that it's a 'rival' blog. Excuse me? If it's a rival blog, why did I get gratuitous slatherings on #155?

It's a pretty simple question really, and since it appears to have something to do with spats and inside quarrels, I'd like to know what it is. I don't want to be 'inside', and there have been a few here who've pointed me, discretely, in the right direction. I'll turn on my email so you can do it that way if you'd rather not do it in comments.

It's this blog.

Some former LGFers there, some who were banned from here.

447 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:03:06am

re: #444 Geepers


good grief!...thats worse than Bananarama at this hour...

448 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:03:39am

Wonder if der General would feel more welcome there..?

449 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:03:41am

Hey, here's a GREAT article on George Soros (hat tip: Beach Lover):[Link: www.ibdeditorials.com...]

450 Perry  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:04:27am

re: #432 cbinflux

Boy, he's off course. It's almost time for the native birds to leaving way up there. Neat little bird. [Link: www.camacdonald.com...]

451 ec marm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:04:37am

Over the years many politicians (both parties, not naming names here, not the point) have pointed to the dissidents in Iran and said that instead of engaging Iran militarily we need to encourage them in hopes that they will rise up.
Well, this time next week the dissidents in Iran will be flooded with these images on newspapers and web sites:

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad speaking in front of the United Nations Security Council
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad preaching the glories of islam before students at a major U.S. University
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad lecturing the U.S. press at a luncheon at a four star U.S. restaurant
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (possibly) honoring the memory of the Sept. 11 'martyrs' at Ground Zero in New York


What are these same politicians saying now?
*crickets*
/rant over

452 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:04:57am

The last Jew in Afghanistan Marks Yom Kippur Alone

KABUL (AFP) — Zebulon Simentov, the last Jew in Afghanistan, is once again marking the Jewish holy day of fasting in solitude, in a deserted synagogue in the capital of a devoutly Islamic nation.
"I have everything I need for the 24 hours of praying and fasting," Simentov tells AFP before the start of Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, at sunset on Friday.
Around two decades ago, there were still about 20 Afghan Jewish families living in Kabul, although all were from Herat -- the largest city in northwestern Afghanistan near the border with Iran.
Through the Soviet occupation of the 1980s, the subsequent civil war and the Taliban's 1996-2001 regime, all went to Israel or moved to neighbouring former Soviet republics -- undoing a Jewish presence built up from the seventh century.
Only Simentov has been left behind, becoming by default the guardian of Kabul's empty synagogue.
The room where he receives visitors was once a prayer room for women. On the wall are pictures of Afghan President Hamid Karzai and the late ultra-orthodox Lubavitch rabbi, Menahem Scheerson.
Adjoining this room is the bare-walled "small synagogue" for men, where he prefers to pray.
Simentov, approaching 50, dislikes the "big synagogue" across the corridor -- another large and dirty room in which stands only a platform traditionally reserved for the rabbi.
A cupboard built into the wall faces Jerusalem. Its doors are open and it has been stripped of its treasure, a scroll of the Torah.
453 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:06:25am

re: #450 Perry

Heh, don't go gettin' all Audubon weepy on us...
/

454 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:06:40am

Hey realwest.

How goes it brother? Feeling any better?

455 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:07:21am
EL FASHER, Sudan (AP) - Armed men ambushed an aid convoy in Darfur, wounding three humanitarian workers, the U.N. mission to Sudan said Saturday.
The convoy from U.S.-based World Vision International, which included eight staff members, was attacked some 25 miles south of Nyala, the capital of South Darfur state, on Thursday, the U.N. said.

All three wounded aid workers were Sudanese. Two were shot in the head and one in the arm, World Vision said. Two are in stable condition, and one is serious condition, the group said. It did not provide more information.

The attackers have not been identified but the U.N. statement said Arab tribes have been regularly clashing in the area.

"This is a horrifying and brutal attack on aid staff who are working to save the lives of Sudanese people," U.N. humanitarian chief John Holmes said.

Attacks against humanitarian workers have increased by 150 percent from June 2006 to June 2007, the U.N. says

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

456 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:08:11am

re: #451 ec marm

Get your propaganda right here!

457 Bob's Kid  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:08:33am

re: #441 goddessoftheclassroom

Unfortunately it's an old story. In August I finally paid off all the debt from that divorce--tens of thousands of dollars worth. I don't own much, but I have my honor left, which means a lot to me.

Now if only I could get my credit in shape enough to get a house of my own!

458 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:08:45am

re: #455 storagemanager

EL FASHER, Sudan (AP) - Armed men ambushed an aid convoy in Darfur, wounding three humanitarian workers, the U.N. mission to Sudan said Saturday.
The convoy from U.S.-based World Vision International, which included eight staff members, was attacked some 25 miles south of Nyala, the capital of South Darfur state, on Thursday, the U.N. said.
All three wounded aid workers were Sudanese. Two were shot in the head and one in the arm, World Vision said. Two are in stable condition, and one is serious condition, the group said. It did not provide more information.

The attackers have not been identified but the U.N. statement said Arab tribes have been regularly clashing in the area.

"This is a horrifying and brutal attack on aid staff who are working to save the lives of Sudanese people," U.N. humanitarian chief John Holmes said.

Attacks against humanitarian workers have increased by 150 percent from June 2006 to June 2007, the U.N. says



[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Right on Zawahiri's cue.

459 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:08:47am

re: #446 JammieWearingFool

and current LGF'ers.

460 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:09:25am
461 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:10:14am

re: #429 Bob's Kid "It isn't fun no matter how "easy" it goes."
Amen to that - I've been divorced twice (fortunately no children) and I got over the first one in about a year and a half (which is as long as the marriage lasted) and the second one...well, we were together for 16 years and I'm still not over that, mostly cause it was my fault - and, no, no other people involved.
Course, as B.B. King once said "You can't be a man if you're heart ain't been broken at least once in you're life."

462 Perry  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:10:39am

re: #453 cbinflux
Sorry; it's genetic. I'll weep all alone.

463 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:11:08am

re: #459 cbinflux

re: #446 JammieWearingFool

and current LGF'ers.

I noticed that. They do need to expand the discussion outside of talking about LGF.

Just a thought.

464 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:12:20am

Attaboid,

As a 6/15er you might remember our VtheK, nee Viking the Kitten, got his nic from the first ever Joel Vietch animation.

Viking Kittens.

465 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:13:00am

Offense in Helmand ongoing

KABUL, Afghanistan -- Heavy battles punctuated by a barrage of airstrikes killed 75 suspected Taliban and at least six civilians in southern Afghanistan, while a suicide car bomb in the capital killed two people, including a French soldier.

The bomb attack in western Kabul came against a convoy of French troops traveling in armored vehicles, killing one soldier and an Afghan civilian, and wounding many other Afghans, hospital and North Atlantic Treaty Organization officials said. The blast blew the windows out of a civilian bus and set at least one vehicle on fire.

NATO's International Security Assistance Force confirmed that one French soldier was killed in the blast, but a spokesman said he had no other information. A hospital official said one Afghan civilian also was killed by the blast.

Meanwhile, heavy fighting in the south killed about 75 Taliban militants over the last 48 hours, the U.S.-led coalition said. Six civilians were also killed after Taliban fighters sought shelter in their homes, which were then targeted by airstrikes, an Afghan official said.

The outbreak of fighting comes on the heels of a new NATO operation that began Wednesday in Helmand province, where the U.S. Central Command reported that F-15 and A-10 fighter jets dropped multiple bombs during a prolonged engagement. Helmand, the world's largest poppy-growing region, has seen the heaviest fighting in Afghanistan this year.

It's looks like we aren't going to sit back and take it during Ramadan anymore - that's a change.

466 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:13:03am

re: #452 Thanos Hey Thanos - good morning. That was one of the most moving stories I've read in I don't know how long.
Thank you very much for that.

467 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:14:10am
It's looks like we aren't going to sit back and take it during Ramadan anymore - that's a change.

Oh bullshit.

468 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:15:02am

re: #454 Geepers Eh, sometimes I feel ok, mostly pretty shitty, physically. Course it don't help when I either get my med's screwed up or forget to take em. But I'm still here.
How you doing buddy?

469 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:15:51am

re: #459 cbinflux

re: #446 JammieWearingFool

and current LGF'ers.

Nice blog...they have a trash Charles thread up now...bitter,hateful people.

470 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:16:01am

re: #467 Geepers

It's looks like we aren't going to sit back and take it during Ramadan anymore - that's a change.

Oh bullshit.

?

I remember past Ramadans where we didn't mount offensive actions?

471 phoenixgirl  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:16:42am

re: #452 Thanos

this man is truly a man of God. i have no doubt his reward in heaven will be HUGE!

472 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:18:10am

re: #465 Thanos

its turning into a slaughter...

473 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:18:41am

Um, hope y'all don't mind, but I'd as soon not discuss GCP out here anymore. It's just not productive and I suspect it's gonna make the Blogfadda (hat tip: BabbaZee) less than happy, too.
Just sayin, y'all...

474 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:18:48am

re: #468 realwest

Tried Procrit..?

475 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:19:40am
“FBI took over the sight and the situation,” Fischvogt said.

Spell checker's no substitute for common sense.

476 Attaboid  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:19:47am

re: #444 Geepers

Those cats are way cool.

477 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:19:48am

re: #473 realwest

True that. I regret mentioning it.

478 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:19:51am

re: #473 realwest

Who?
/

479 Attaboid  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:20:23am

re: #464 Geepers

Loved the Vikings.

480 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:20:26am

Mandy!

481 Perry  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:22:20am

VtheK is one of the 5 funniest people on the planet.

482 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:24:56am

For anyone who might have missed this yesterday when Kilgore posted it:

Can't Tase This

483 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:25:36am

this just in...

Penn State 42
Michigan 10

why wait

484 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:25:47am

re: #480 cbinflux

Cbinflux! How goes it this a.m.?

485 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:26:22am

BTW, my uncle, Juan Cbinflux-Valdez, sez those mango hummingbirds are muy delicioso! Get yourself 15-30 of them, and you've got a nice lite snack.

486 irish rose  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:26:27am

Is it just me, or were tempers running unusually hot last night here at LGF? Must have been a tough week for everyone, the Pope thread was a real doozy.

The moon wasn't full... I checked.

Anyway, it's now Saturday morning. Started my day with a run on the beach, and I'm now sitting on the back patio in the sun... its' a beautiful morning, and the birds are singing.

Scrambled eggs, bacon, potatos, freshly squeezed OJ and good strong coffee all around for the stressed out Lizard contingent.

And a special iced double-chocolate donut with sprinkles, for Charles.

487 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:27:18am

realwest (#468),

Eh.

488 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:27:32am

Thanks to all for being straight with me. It helps. I didn't just fall of the turnip truck, and the lurking I did was mainly to get my news. I enjoyed some of the comments here (before I got registered) but I speed read anyway and I recognize spats quickly - and just skim on by. This past week or so however...

Need JAVA. BRB.

489 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:27:44am

re: #484 MandyManners

All's quiet on the Western Front (Tenn.) Football Homecoming activities all day long...

490 phoenixgirl  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:28:20am

re: #486 irish rose

hi irish! sounds like a lovely morning for you! have a great weekend!

491 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:28:48am

Good morn Realwest & All

492 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:29:16am
Cairo - Police in Egypt arrested 28 people in the Mediterranean city of Alexandria after Muslim and Christian youths clashed in a row over a girl, police said on Saturday.

Fighting broke out late on Friday after Ahmed Abdel Hamid, a 22-year-old Muslim, claimed he saw a Muslim girl headed for a residential building with Sami Rustum, 22, a Christian in the Al-Asafra district, the policeman said, on condition of anonymity.

Abdel Hamid demanded to know where Rustum was taking the girl and a verbal exchange took place before both called on their friends to support them.

The fight, in which at least 20 Christians and 20 Muslims threw stones and hurled bottles at each other, left six lightly injured.

[Link: www.int.iol.co.za...]

493 phoenixgirl  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:30:31am

re: #488 Cap'n DOC

you're not the only one who has noticed.

494 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:30:44am

re: #492 storagemanager

Cairo - Police in Egypt arrested 28 people in the Mediterranean city of Alexandria after Muslim and Christian youths clashed in a row over a girl, police said on Saturday.
Fighting broke out late on Friday after Ahmed Abdel Hamid, a 22-year-old Muslim, claimed he saw a Muslim girl headed for a residential building with Sami Rustum, 22, a Christian in the Al-Asafra district, the policeman said, on condition of anonymity.

Abdel Hamid demanded to know where Rustum was taking the girl and a verbal exchange took place before both called on their friends to support them.

harbinger of the future...just warmin up here

The fight, in which at least 20 Christians and 20 Muslims threw stones and hurled bottles at each other, left six lightly injured.


[Link: www.int.iol.co.za...]
495 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:31:10am

re: #494 albusteve


whoops...

496 hayseed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:33:05am

according to some on the 606 boards,womens football is not a real sport. what a bunch of fucking loosers the English are.
rant/ off

497 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:34:18am

Mrs. Mahmoud is making bacon and eggs.

Handy Manny is on TV.

498 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:34:52am

re: #496 hayseed

according to some on the 606 boards,womens football is not a real sport. what a bunch of f*cking loosers the English are.
rant/ off

Dude! Cut 'em some slack; they playing were in full burqas.

499 ec marm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:35:11am

re: #486 irish rose

Is it just me, or were tempers running unusually hot last night here at LGF? Must have been a tough week for everyone, the Pope thread was a real doozy.

I'm glad I got out of there when I did. I, early in the thread, tracked down the actual text of what the Pope said, collected my h/t and decided to quit while I was ahead. I knew that was as good as it was going to get.
I wish you hadn't mentioned this, though. Now I'm gonna have to read the entire thread. :~(

500 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:35:29am

re: #497 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

What about the mango hummingbirds?!

501 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:35:29am

re: #489 cbinflux

Homecoming in September? I recall that our homecomings were always in October--the nights were chilly and crisp and the trees were turning.

502 irish rose  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:35:59am

re: #490 phoenixgirl

re: #486 irish rose

hi irish! sounds like a lovely morning for you! have a great weekend!

Planning on it... sweetheart and I are running away to a B&B this afternoon to escape from our teenagers ;). An elegant Saturday night dinner downtown and a good comedy act, should round out the weekend nicely.

503 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:36:22am

re: #501 MandyManners

Not HS, a Youth Sports event.

504 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:37:18am

re: #502 irish rose

R u gonna get lucky?!

505 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:37:32am

re: #485 cbinflux

BTW, my uncle, Juan Cbinflux-Valdez, sez those mango hummingbirds are muy delicioso! Get yourself 15-30 of them, and you've got a nice lite snack.

And you asked why I wondered why, if parrots from the Amazon can survive in the wild four four decades through NYC winters, why, over the millenia, the parrots didn't migrate up North on their own.

506 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:38:14am

re: #486 irish rose

Whoa. If I wasn't fasting, I'd be on that! Charles ain't awake yet I do believe. I flick the sprinkles off, however.

507 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:38:18am
Muslim religion taught under guise of history
'Students perform skits about the tenets of Islam belief'

[Link: www.worldnetdaily.com...]

508 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:38:58am

re: #505 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Again, the answers are obvious. The parrots are doing fine; the hummingbirds are under pressure. A cursury reading of Darwin...
/

509 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:40:00am

re: #499 ec marm

It actually turned out to be a good read. I quit about 0230.

510 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:40:28am

re: #474 cbinflux Don't even know what it is! So no, I haven't tried it. But if its for drinking alcoholics, I don't need it, thanks. Never thought I'd hear myself saying this, but Nancy Reagan was right when she said "Just say No".
If it's something else though, I'd like to hear about it.
Thanks.

511 ec marm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:40:45am

The folks at the blog that shall not be mentioned can bitch all they want, did they get a chance to chat with Tammy Bruce last night?

512 Just_A_Grunt  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:42:17am

Time for another vent which continues to point out how bad the media is at reporting on anything military related. This time it is an article from a newspaper in Gainesville, GA about one of our soldiers being featured on an episode of 20/20.

As Afghan forces were pelting the five humvees carrying American soldiers without mercy, then-Pvt. Channing Moss took aim and fired back with the machine gun fixed atop one of the tanks under fire.


HMMVS are not tanks.
This is a HMMV
This is a tank. (Abrams)
And this is an Infantry Fighting Vehicle (Bradley) Also not a tank.
And our newest Fighting vehicle the Stryker Also not a tank. Notice it has wheels.
These images are free to any in the news business. Please keep them handy for future reference.

513 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:43:08am

re: #500 cbinflux

re: #497 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

What about the mango hummingbirds?!


At the 2007 Mini-LGF Meetup near Winnie, TX, at BordM's parents house (they lost the carport and several trees, including a pecan tree that ruptured a gas pipeline last week, but they got electricity and internet back this past Sunday), with Miss Trixie, who has shapely legs for a Canadian woman, and Nam Grunt, and a seat held in honor of the late Obiwan, there were two different types of hummingbird. The hummingbirds didn't seem to like each other much. Lots of bird arguing.

514 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:43:43am

re: #481 Perry Huh? I mean I LOVE V the K but one of the five funniest people on the planet?
I don't know about that. I mean ya got Geepers, CtP, Me, Iowahawk, mama winger and well, shoot there's five right there!

;>'

515 irish rose  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:43:44am

re: #504 cbinflux

re: #502 irish rose

R u gonna get lucky?!

I was lucky the first time that I ever set eyes on him... I've been waiting all of my life for this man.

We're planning to tie the knot in a couple of years, when our kids have graduated high school.

Have another slice of bacon ;).

516 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:43:55am

re: #472 albusteve

re: #465 Thanos

its turning into a slaughter...

Yes, the AFP lead is "French Soldier and 40 Taliban Killed on Peace Day" They also mention all the gore, etc.

However, it's unusual for Nato to mount offensive campaigns during Ramadan in Afghanistan, lots of defense going on every year since the Taliban always does an offensive, but this year we are sending even the Afghan army out in Helmand during Ramadan.

517 gettinby  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:44:52am

This has nothing to do with anything, but it's an interesting site for information and demographics for your zip code.

/well, I found it interesting anyway! ;)

518 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:45:26am

re: #511 ec marm

She didn't do too much chatting.

519 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:45:30am

re: #510 realwest

re: #474 cbinflux Don't even know what it is! So no, I haven't tried it. But if its for drinking alcoholics, I don't need it, thanks. Never thought I'd hear myself saying this, but Nancy Reagan was right when she said "Just say No".
If it's something else though, I'd like to hear about it.
Thanks.


Not referring to your victory over booze, just the rundown feeling. Procrit helps with anemia, etc. in cancer, HIV/AIDS pts, etc. Especially the after effects of chemo and radiation.

520 phoenixgirl  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:45:50am
with Miss Trixie, who has shapely legs for a Canadian woman,

Edofmany...omg, that was funny!

521 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:46:27am

Ed Mahmoud's (#513),

At the LGFOhio BBQ at BenZ's place there were hummingbirds all over the place. (He caters to them.)

And hummingbird fights are bad-ass. Them little suckers go at it, at warp speed.

522 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:46:34am

re: #512 Just_A_Grunt

Cognito the Contrarian in 5 4 3 2 ...

523 nyc redneck  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:47:23am

re: #511 ec marm

The folks at the blog that shall not be mentioned can bitch all they want, did they get a chance to chat with Tammy Bruce last night?

i was so happy i got to tell i her how much i admire her. go tammy.

524 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:47:41am

re: #486 irish rose Why thank you kindly for that fine breakfast (second one today and I wonder why I'm getting fat chubbier!).
Yeah, I know what you mean about last night. And a few times I'm aware of before that and I've got it narrowed down to three trolls and two sockpuppets (none of whom are here yet) but I s'pect I'll deal with 'em once I find the time and place. Hot damn, I'm sure gonna enjoy it, too.

525 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:48:45am
526 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:48:53am
It's ironic that, on the eve of the Jewish High Holiday of Yom Kippur, a big news story is a visit to America by Iran's genocidally-inclined President Ahmadinejad. He is believed to be one of the "students" who seized American diplomats in 1979. And now he's been invited to speak at Columbia. If there were justice in this world, the American students would rise up and grab him, but that probably won't happen. No, American students only turn violent when someone of the "Right" (whatever that means) is scheduled to speak. A few years ago, former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's speech at Berkeley was cancelled due to violent protests. Berkeley, you will recall, is the self-proclaimed "free speech capital" of the nation. Also, the article below notes how Jim Gilchrist has faced violence and cancellations at Columbia and elsewhere.

Speaking of Yom Kippur...It was on Yom Kippur in 1973 that Egypt and Syria attacked Israel in one of their several wars of aggression against the Jewish state. The Russians were restocking the Arab munitions faster than they could be used. Meanwhile, Europe, under threat of an oil embargo, had cut all military exports to Israel. As the war passed into its second week and Israel was in danger of being overwhelmed, President Nixon authorized "Operation Nickel Grass" to resupply the Israelis by airlift. The Europeans refused access to fueling facilities or permission to overfly, making the staging very uncertain. Finally the Americans worked out a deal for a stopover in Portugal, followed by a perilous flight into the gateway of the Mediterranean, sticking to a narrow corridor of international airspace. (By the way, the Europeans did the same thing during the recent war between Israel and Hezbollah. Give them points for consistency.)

[Link: tammybruce.com...]

527 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:48:57am

re: #517 gettinby

WOW. It's no wonder that I saw my very first hijab last week.

Bookmarked.

528 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:49:39am

re: #487 Geepers LOL! Short but not so sweet hey my friend? Well don't worry, the day's just starting and I'm hoping yours gets a whole lot better!

529 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:50:53am

re: #512 Just_A_Grunt

The hits - they just keep on comin'...

530 Perry  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:51:10am

re: #514 realwest I see your cause for confusion. My list is... my dad, my husband, Lileks, my sister, VtheK, Iowahawk, my friend Darrell. There ya go. The 5 greats. ;~P

531 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:51:49am

re: #525 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

There's an easy dozen jokes, but it's too 1984.

532 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:52:45am

re: #499 ec marm Hey ec - don't bother reading the whole thread, ain't nothing you haven't seen before, but it were nasty, although not as nasty as the Victims of 9/11 thread on September 16, starting around #81 (whaddya mean I hold grudges?! LOL!).

533 OpenTheDoor  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:53:02am

re: #86 SeafoodGumbo

re: #76 Clemente


re: #73 SeafoodGumboWhat they said, double! Please, keep on connecting more dots, and thanks!

(extra fruit cup for Gumbo!)


Not to be rude, but can I trade the fruit cup for some flounder stuffed with crab meat and a bowl of turtle soup?


Ahhh, cooter stew, haven't had that in a while.
[Link: www.etsu.edu...]

534 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:53:18am

Geepers:
Hope you are doing well this morn, but I'm still curious about the bullshit call you made earlier. It will bug me all morning because I hate stating things that aren't factual. Did we do past offensive campaigns in Afghanistan during Ramadan previous years and I missed it?

535 Ballistic Renegade  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:54:17am

OT Headline:

Man Tasered For Refusing To Lift Hand Off Quran

[Link: www.local6.com...]

CAIR seething begins soon...

536 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:55:26am

Investigating the Iranian Paris Hilton

A sex scandal tape leads a journalist to explore Iran's sexuality


Editor’s Note: Forget Iran’s nuclear program, that is not the talk of the tea shops in Tehran. What has got Iran buzzing these days is a videotape – a pornographic videotape – showing a popular Iranian soap opera starlet having sex. The videotape has sent shockwaves through the Islamic Republic. New America Media editor Amir Soltani speaks to Pari Esfandiari, founder of Irandokht about her investigation into the sex life of Iranians for an article published in the May issue of Playboy.

537 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:57:13am

re: #535 Ballistic Renegade

OT Headline:

Man Tasered For Refusing To Lift Hand Off Quran

[Link: www.local6.com...]

CAIR seething begins soon...

That's a strange one... looks like a set up to me, anonymous tip and all...

538 gettinby  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:58:01am

{REALWEST}

Good to esee you!

Just a driveby to drop off the zipskinny link.

Back to work...*sigh*

/can't wait to make my first gazillion!

539 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:58:09am

re: #525 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Elderly Catholic nun searched by Muslimah TSA agent

Take your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ape!

540 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:58:33am

re: #525 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

reported

541 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:59:12am

re: #517 {gettinby} Hey There! Good morning to y'all! I done as you wished, posted a couple of times on the weekly DT that you were busy working with your hubby to make some money.
Several folks thought that making money was a piss-poor excuse for not being out here, though!
Just kidding!
How are you doing and how's your hubby; you both still hanging in there and working tons of hours?

542 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:59:32am

Why drinking can be bad during Ramadan

Forty people have died as a result of drinking contaminated alcohol in the Pakistani city of Karachi after 13 more deaths Saturday, police and medics said.

Doctors were trying to save around two dozen others admitted to hospitals in the southern port city where scores fell sick Thursday and Friday after drinking the liquor, medics said.

"So far 40 people have died because of drinking toxic liquor," city police chief Javed Bokhari said. Around 14 died on Thursday and another 13 on Friday.

"It is tragic to see people dying in so many numbers," doctor Seemi Jamali of Jinnah Postgraduate Medical Centre, where many of the victims were admitted, told AFP.

"The victims suffered irreversible damage because of poisoning," she said.

Many victims were shy of reporting to hospital because the holy month of Ramadan is being observed in this overwhelmingly Muslim country.

Drinking alcohol is prohibited in Islam but even those who drink often stop during Ramadan.

"Those victims came to the hospital after horrible delays and only when they suffered blindness," said Jamali.

Around 25 more victims were hospitalised and, according to Jamali, many of them were in a serious condition. "Patients are still coming," said Jamali.

Most of the victims were labourers who lost consciousness after buying the alcohol on Thursday.

Police chief Bokhari said they had arrested two men for illegally brewing the alcohol and another four for selling it.

543 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:59:48am

re: #535 Ballistic Renegade

A hollowed out Koran holding drugs. Charges dropped.

544 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:00:03am
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ill leave Tehran for New York on Sunday to take part in the 62nd conference of the United Nations General Assembly.

According to the Presidential Office Media Bureau, Ahmadinejad, heading a high-ranking delegation, is scheduled to address the assembly and hold talks with the UN secretary general as well as presidents and senior officials of some other countries.

Delivering a speech at Colombia University, and holding discussions with a number of American Muslim, Jewish and Christian leaders are among the president's programs during his visit to New York.

The Iranian president will also have interviews with a number of leading US media.

Meanwhile, he is to hold talks with Iranian expatriates residing in New York.


Who the hell does he think he's fooling? [Link: www2.irna.com...]

545 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:00:49am

re: #542 Thanos

Deliberate contamination?

546 Just_A_Grunt  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:00:53am

re: #537 Thanos

re: #535 Ballistic Renegade

OT Headline:

Man Tasered For Refusing To Lift Hand Off Quran

[Link: www.local6.com...]

CAIR seething begins soon...

That's a strange one... looks like a set up to me, anonymous tip and all...

My original thought is not safe for posting but anytime somebody with a gun saids to put your hands up and the common sense approach is to put your hands up. The officers have no way of knowing what was under his shirt.

547 ec marm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:01:14am

re: #532 realwest

re: #499 ec marm but it were nasty, although not as nasty as the Victims of 9/11 thread on September 16, starting around #81 (whaddya mean I hold grudges?! LOL!).

You've still got your Nixon style 'enemies list' glued to the side of your monitor, I see. :~)

548 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:01:43am

re: #544 storagemanager

Delivering a speech at Colombia University, and holding discussions with a number of American Muslim, Jewish and Christian leaders are among the president's programs during his visit to New York.

Who he meets with will be instructive. ISNA, CAIR...?

549 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:02:50am

re: #535 Ballistic Renegade

OT Headline:

Man Tasered For Refusing To Lift Hand Off Quran

[Link: www.local6.com...]

CAIR seething begins soon...

Did he yell, "Don't taz me, bro"?

550 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:04:00am

re: #519 cbinflux AH HA! Now that sounds promising! Is it a prescription drug or over the counter?

551 ec marm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:05:18am

re: #544 storagemanager
Interesting typo from an Iranian news service, dontchathink?

Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ill leave Tehran for New York on Sunday to take part in the 62nd conference of the United Nations General Assembly.


ill?

552 Lokki  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:05:20am

Much as I hate to drag us away from the concept of Iranians having sex, the update on the original story is that the FBI has investigated and labeled this a false alarm.

Good thing that we have the John Doe protection in place; better a few false alarms than a few explosions.

553 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:05:50am

re: #545 BeerForMyHorses

re: #542 Thanos

Deliberate contamination?

Could be, but you still read stories occasionally here of people going blind from moonshine. It's a fine art, easy to get it wrong by just a bit and produce poison. Probably didn't clean all the glycol out of the radiator before trying to make it or something...

554 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:06:30am
555 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:06:42am

re: #552 Lokki

Much as I hate to drag us away from the concept of Iranians having sex, the update on the original story is that the FBI has investigated and labeled this a false alarm.

Good thing that we have the John Doe protection in place; better a few false alarms than a few explosions.

False alarm or swept under the rug? The FBI has been infiltrated by Muslims.

556 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:06:55am

Is reporting my 535 post (Nuns & Muslims) the way to alert Charles of possible thread?

557 v the k  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:07:03am

I think a lot of these false alarms are the "shark bumps" al Qaeda uses to assess how a target will respond while they plan the next attacks.

558 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:07:22am

re: #513 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Ed,

Since you see Miss Trixie, would you please tell her that yesterday someone posted the code to format the music symbol that she used to use to greet everyone good morning with.

"&" + "#9834" &#9834
"&" + "#9835" &#9835
"&" + "#9836" &#9836

559 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:07:54am
Feds: Lizards hidden in hollow leg

which one of you was it?..fess up. [Link: www.cnn.com...]

560 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:08:05am

re: #550 realwest

Prescription

Beware of countefeits.

561 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:08:45am

re: #551 ec marm

re: #544 storagemanager
Interesting typo from an Iranian news service, dontchathink?


Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad ill leave Tehran for New York on Sunday to take part in the 62nd conference of the United Nations General Assembly.

ill?

They admit it...he is a sick man.

562 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:09:15am

re: #553 Thanos

Usually it's ~ wood vs. grain alcohol.

563 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:09:52am

re: #545 BeerForMyHorses

You'd have no problem - stick to the HorseBrew. BTW - That's one step below MicroBrew. Maybe you'd like Moose Drool. Turn your speakers on...

564 Cornholio  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:10:20am

re: #255 mrsoc


When did that happen? Oh, it didn't? Dumbass.

All your name-calling makes me wonder if there should be a minimum age for posting on this board. No posters under the age of 12 without a parent.

Go read the article linked in my post #111. Or read this:

the new reality around the country, as air bases broaden and strengthen their mission to protect the skies. Prior to Sept. 11, the order to shoot down a commercial plane could only come from the president. Since then, the president has pushed that authority down the chain of command to military generals. The idea is to speed up response time, should an airliner be used again as a guided missile.

Pilots at Otis say they hope that day never comes. However, they insist that they wouldn't hesitate to fire. "Every day we fly, we pray it's a totally quiet day," says one pilot, who goes by the call name Hollywood. "We do not want to shoot down an airliner. We would only do that as a last resort to save further human lives."


link

I stand by my original post. A 9/11 style hijacking will be shot down, if the unarmed passengers are unable to kill the hijackers. This is terrible, but it is better than letting another airliner crash into a skyscraper killing thousands more.

565 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:11:01am

re: #554 NJDhockeyfan

Another Mohammed Cartoon

heh

Oh, Allah! Let the seething begin!

566 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:11:20am

re: #540 cbinflux

?

567 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:12:05am

re: #562 cbinflux

re: #553 Thanos

Usually it's ~ wood vs. grain alcohol.

Yes that's normally it.

568 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:12:13am

re: #564 Cornholio
I pray that day never comes.

569 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:12:13am

re: #558 Irene NYC

re: #513 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Ed,

Since you see Miss Trixie, would you please tell her that yesterday someone posted the code to format the music symbol that she used to use to greet everyone good morning with.

"&" + "#9834" %u266A
"&" + "#9835" %u266B
"&" + "#9836" %u266C


I saw Miss Trixie, she is back near Ottawa, I am in Houston.

570 FrogMarch  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:12:47am
571 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:12:55am

re: #563 Cap'n DOC

:)

572 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:13:18am

re: #569 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

I meant here on LGF. I rarely am on a thread when she is.

573 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:13:20am

Report: Iran's Ahmadinejad to meet 9/11 survivors

Tehran (dpa) - After having been rejected by the United States administration to visit the site of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is now planning to meet the families of the 9/11 victims, Fars news agency reported.

Fars, which is close to the presidential office, further reported that Ahmadinejad would also meet US war critics and give a speech at the University of Columbia and answer to questions by students and lecturers.

The Fars report has not yet been officially confirmed.

Ahmadinejad is due to leave Sunday for New York to attend the United Nations General Assembly, where he is to give an address.

Lies! No way this is true.

574 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:13:38am

re: #566 BeerForMyHorses

re: #540 cbinflux

?


You can use "report" to bring articles to Charles' attention for a possible thread as well as reporting trolls. In a thread a few days back he said he actually prefers it because it gives him the whole content.

575 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:14:30am

re: #571 BeerForMyHorses

I actually prefer your tune.

:o)

576 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:14:33am

re: #572 Irene NYC

re: #569 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

I meant here on LGF. I rarely am on a thread when she is.


Oh.

577 Pullus Iulius  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:15:24am

re: #573 NJDhockeyfan

And will he be referring to the families as "the ones that got away"?

578 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:15:30am

re: #573 NJDhockeyfan

Maybe not, but their readers will believe it.

579 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:15:51am

re: #574 Thanos

I know. I just didn't think it was anything to report.

580 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:16:38am

re: #573 NJDhockeyfan

There is a group of 'disgruntled' survivors is there not? Could this possibly be the group that is referenced here?

581 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:16:48am

re: #566 BeerForMyHorses

It's a good thang

582 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:17:18am
DUBAI - An Indian maid in Kuwait was allegedly beaten up by her employer after she asked him to clear her salary arrears.

The maid, identified as Kumari, hailing from Andhra Pradesh was working in a house in Hawally and the incident happened when she asked her boss to clear her salary arrears, Arab Times reported on Saturday.

"Enraged, the employer then started assaulting her till she became unconscious," it said adding the maid is struggling for her life.

Kuwait is home to some 280,000 Indian workers and the Indian government recently set a minimum wage of KD 75 for its workers. The Kuwait government had recently decided to build a shelter for runaway maids.

Hashem Majed, chairman of Al-Huqooq International, a firm safeguarding workers rights' said: "This is a move in the right direction but the Ministry of Social Affairs and the Interior Ministry should work in tandem in order to bring this project to fruition."

According to Majed, the permanent facility for runaway maids should be able to accommodate as many as 1,000 workers. Al-Huqooq has been instrumental in safeguarding workers rights' and has helped repatriate numerous stranded workers.

"The ministries will require a large workforce given that they will be dealing with hundreds of cases. A maid should not be kept more than 3 to 4 days at the facility."

"A distressed maid can give the power of attorney to a lawyer, and he, in turn, can then pursue her case. Once this is done the maid can be repatriated to her country," he said.

"Under the current system, cases fester and until the case is settled, the maid cannot leave the country," he said.

[Link: ummahnewslinks.com...]

583 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:18:15am

No Pope riots yet?

584 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:18:16am

The Taliban Blows up CD shops in the Frontiers Unless they carry these.

Osama bin Laden's call for Pakistanis to rise up against their U.S.-allied military leader struck a chord among an angry, extremist minority, but resonated little among the wider public and was dismissed by the government Friday as "ridiculous."

Still it could feed into growing debate over whether Pakistan is sacrificing its own stability by supporting Washington's unpopular war on terror.

The al-Qaida chief's audio message, released Thursday, urged Pakistanis to wage jihad against President Gen. Pervez Musharraf, whose decision to send troops into a pro-Taliban mosque in the capital and against Islamic militants at the Afghan border has stoked an insurgency.

Musharraf's representatives on Friday dismissed the idea that many in Pakistan's overwhelmingly Muslim population of 160 million would respond to the latest call to arms.

"If Osama bin Laden has spoken to the people and urged them to rise, and the people were really following him, they would have done so much earlier," said the army spokesman, Maj. Gen. Waheed Arshad. "He doesn't have much following here."

585 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:18:20am

re: #579 BeerForMyHorses

It has good potential to set off seething, protests and death threats.
/Charles sometimes follows such.

586 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:18:28am

re: #544 storagemanager Good morning! Ha, I saw your post and misread "The Iranian president will also have interviews with a number of leading US media." to be "...will have interviews with a number of leading US Mafia..."!
Well, actually given the way this mofo is trying to extort everything he can from anyone he can, the Mafia really are the folks he'd like to talk to...but not alone!

587 opnion  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:18:34am

I am sure that the youts were just involved in a peaceful internal struggle.

588 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:18:40am

re: #255 mrsoc
When did that happen? Oh, it didn't? Dumbass

590 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:20:13am

re: #580 Cap'n DOC

re: #573 NJDhockeyfan

There is a group of 'disgruntled' survivors is there not? Could this possibly be the group that is referenced here?

I just can't fathom any family would really meet this monster.

591 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:20:23am

"Under the current system, cases fester and until the case is settled, the maid cannot leave the country," he said.

Allowing time for an expedient beheading.

592 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:20:39am

re: #573 NJDhockeyfan

I hope one of them stomps his ass.

593 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:20:55am

I think it is -- a security employee at the airport wearing full niqab gives one pause. Full Niqab is a statement, not a requirement of the Religion of Pieces.

594 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:21:55am

re: #586 realwest

Good morning real hope you are well...I wonder what he wants to spit on first?

595 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:22:48am

Really!? Must we drag up yesterday's spats?

All we are saying is give peace a chance
All we are saying is stop Cog's contrarian rants

Give CZ the boot
His enabler's a hoot

All we are saying...

596 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:23:13am

re: #590 NJDhockeyfan

re: #580 Cap'n DOC


re: #573 NJDhockeyfan

There is a group of 'disgruntled' survivors is there not? Could this possibly be the group that is referenced here?


I just can't fathom any family would really meet this monster.


Cindy would...and who knows...she just may.

597 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:23:14am

re: #588 albusteve

re: #255 mrsoc
When did that happen? Oh, it didn't? Dumbass

here's a towel...go clean up and try not to shit yourself too often...

598 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:24:25am

re: #547 ec marm LOL! Well, my "enemies list" is MUCH shorter than Nixon's and only contains the names and sockpuppets of those who I feel have besmicrched, betrayed or otherwise unfairly and inaccurately attacked other LGFer's or tried to blacken the good name of LGF.
Still, it DOES seem to get a little longer every day. Think maybe I need to start sharpening up my Ginsu knives (ya know, the ones that are really sharp, have carbon somethin or other handles that don't hold fingerprints and are cheap enough to throw away when you're threw using 'em). Then try to find the right time and thread to get to work.

599 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:25:00am

re: #583 Killgore Trout

All's quiet on the Roman Front.

600 bikermailman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:25:00am

re: #482 Thanos

For anyone who might have missed this yesterday when Kilgore posted it:

Can't Tase This

That's a great one. Did you catch the version where they dubbed Monty Python over the video?

601 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:25:28am

re: #590 NJDhockeyfan

You couldn't be more wrong, and here's why. Referring to an old, and often proved CBINFLUX saying, "Most Americans will do ANYTHING for TV cameras."

Sad but true.

602 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:26:45am

Tropical Disturbance #94L


Probably doesn't develop, but can't be certain, yet.

At the least, it brings some rain to Louisiana next Monday and Tuesday.

603 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:27:17am

re: #601 cbinflux

re: #590 NJDhockeyfan

You couldn't be more wrong, and here's why. Referring to an old, and often proved CBINFLUX saying, "Most Americans will do ANYTHING for TV cameras."

Sad but true.

604 ec marm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:27:26am

re: #583 Killgore Trout

No Pope riots yet?


Here's the actual text of his speech. Some writer had some fun trying to make that appear inflammatory, you think? Search for the word "Islam" in the speech.

605 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:27:48am

re: #603 albusteve

re: #601 cbinflux


re: #590 NJDhockeyfan

You couldn't be more wrong, and here's why. Referring to an old, and often proved CBINFLUX saying, "Most Americans will do ANYTHING for TV cameras."

Sad but true.

whoops again...damn

606 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:27:51am

Yesterday Charles had to put one of the lizards in 'time out' because that person was getting very emotional about Ahmadinejad's visit to NYC. They lost a relative in one of the towers. I can understand their anger and it made me think about something. If this person is so enraged about Ahmadinejad, how many more are past that kind of rage and will attempt to attack the little dictator while he's here?

607 bikermailman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:27:54am

re: #497 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Mrs. Mahmoud is making bacon and eggs.

Handy Manny is on TV.

You seem like a yard type of person. Do you listen to Neil Sperry on the weekends?

608 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:29:22am

The solution to Dinnerjacket's travel. Traffic snarls -- I'm sure that NYPD would cooperate.
[Link: www.daybydaycartoon.com...]

609 Ghengis Khan  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:30:00am

My girlfriend was flying home last night and was on a flight to Detroit, pretty late. She said that they called someone up to the front of the plane right before takeoff, with the name of "Hamas" (she thinks anyway, it was at least an arabic name). American Airlines Flight 860. It could have been nothing, but as it coincides with another American flight, I just thought I'd post it. Check it out lizard investigators.

610 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:30:03am

re: #604 ec marm

He has excellent Ghost Writers. Just sayin'.

611 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:30:52am

re: #602 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Can we name this one Nagin?

612 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:31:48am

re: #552 Lokki Amen!

613 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:31:53am

re: #606 NJDhockeyfan

Yesterday Charles had to put one of the lizards in 'time out' because that person was getting very emotional about Ahmadinejad's visit to NYC. They lost a relative in one of the towers. I can understand their anger and it made me think about something. If this person is so enraged about Ahmadinejad, how many more are past that kind of rage and will attempt to attack the little dictator while he's here?

As Glenn Beck said yesterday, that would be an Archduke Ferdinand moment.

614 filetandrelease  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:32:04am

OT

The Blackwater persecution has me concerned. These guys have alway represented somewhat of a heroic standing to me putting themselves in extremely dangerous environments, albeit for money. So what, their individual resumes are undoubtedly impressive for their chosen line of work.

I don't believe for a minute they killed innocent civilians. But I am interested to hear opinions of fellow lizards regarding these guys if anyone is so inclined.

615 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:32:21am

re: #607 bikermailman

re: #497 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet


Mrs. Mahmoud is making bacon and eggs.

Handy Manny is on TV.


You seem like a yard type of person. Do you listen to Neil Sperry on the weekends?

One more cup of coffee, than into the office for a couple of hours, then mow the yard, then set out sprinkler. No rain here since Humberto.

Oranges probably ripe.

Tomorrow, I have decided to take advantage of last few weeks of warm, but not August hot weather, and take kids to the zoo after church.

I'll miss the NASCAR race from Dover, but the Car of Tomorrow races don't have much passing, so I won't feel too deprived.

616 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:32:46am

re: #611 cbinflux

I'm holding out for Stinky.

/only if it gets near Beaumont.

617 Bucephalas  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:33:09am

re: #600 bikermailman

The Python overdub is perfect. The peasant groveling in the mud spouting marxist tripe really characterizes most of the LLL.

618 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:33:50am

re: #604 ec marm

Search for the word "Islam" in the speech.

Ha! Very funny. Creative reporting 101.

619 ec marm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:34:05am

re: #589 FrogMarch

Barney Frank and two congresswads from California are teaming up to bail out Wall Street bankers stuck with bad loan portfolios.

That makes sense, reward the folks that decided not to substantiate income, ignore low appraisals, write contracts that are unintelligible to 75% of the population, bumped the interest rate up the day before settlement, and the multitude of other crap that caused the problem get bailed out.
Meanwhile the folks that lost their houses, and the parts of the country that are experiencing a housing value meltdown? Screw 'em.

620 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:34:30am

re: #556 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet Beat's the hell outta me, Ed. I've got a lot of posts out here but only three hat tips and I can't even get theads going when I say forget about the hat tips!
Maybe it'll work! Want me to report it to Stinky and see if that works? Or better yet report your link to Stinky and make it an e-mail to Charles!

621 Cornholio  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:35:16am

re: #568 storagemanager

re: #564 Cornholio
I pray that day never comes.

Me too. But given the state of our current airline "security" system farce I am not optimistic.

We're so blinded by political correctness, our government plans and trains to shoot down our own airliners instead of issuing a regulation banning people from Saudi Arabia/Syria etc. from flying on domestic flights.

622 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:35:21am

re: #619 ec marm

Not to worry, out of the goodness of his heart, Barney takes in strangers.

623 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:35:22am

Interesting...

According to Toronto Blue Jays general manager J.P. Ricciardi, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is staying at the same hotel as the team Sunday night.

[Link: www.theglobeandmail.com...]

Sounds like a great opportunity for a blanket party.

624 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:35:24am

re: #619 ec marm

Makes perfect $ense.

625 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:36:25am

re: #557 v the k Hey there v the k! Good morning to ya. I agree that a lot of these situations are just sorta dry runs or recon moves.
BTW, you were picked as one of the 5 funniest people in the world upthread there!

626 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:36:46am
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I just walked past the TV in the other room. Oprah’s on. She’s interviewing Sean Penn, who has directed a new movie–a true story about a young man who hiked into the Alaskan wilderness by himself. Looks well photographed. Sounds compelling. I’ve enjoyed most of what I’ve seen Sean Penn in. In fact I think he’s a great actor (not that I think acting is a particularly difficult skill, but that’s a different argument) and I may go see this picture. But I see him sitting next to Oprah pitching this film and I think of all the angry, hostile and intolerant things he’s said about people like me and the things we believe.

Was all that garbage necessary, Sean? I’m willing to believe you want the best for the country, even though I strongly disagree with your opinions. Would you grant me the same goodwill? I wish I knew. Now that he wants us to buy a ticket for his movie, he’s not carrying on about politics–I guess our money is good enough for him, if not our beliefs.

Civility is on life support, and Sean Penn is one of many very angry people responsible for it.



[Link: politicalmavens.com...]

627 Bucephalas  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:36:53am

re: #618 Killgore Trout

I think you're missing the point. I'm gald they're putting words into the Pope's mouth. It seems that he's the only public figure willing to call a spade a spade. I wish he were making a speech a week that could be interpreted as insulting to Islam. It's about time someone did it.

628 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:37:29am

re: #556 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Yes, it's actually his preferred recommend method. Of course, it helps if he's awake, ahem, Realwest...

629 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:39:05am

re: #627 Bucephalas

Now that's a dangerous invitation to MSM.

630 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:40:16am

re: #614 filetandrelease

OT

The Blackwater persecution has me concerned. These guys have alway represented somewhat of a heroic standing to me putting themselves in extremely dangerous environments, albeit for money. So what, their individual resumes are undoubtedly impressive for their chosen line of work.

I don't believe for a minute they killed innocent civilians. But I am interested to hear opinions of fellow lizards regarding these guys if anyone is so inclined.

I agree that mercs are needed, however there are other things coming out, like investigations of BW personell selling guns to PKK terrorists. I am concerned that a handfull of yahoos are going to get the needed services thrown into ill repute and discredit.

631 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:41:37am

re: #630 Thanos

They're just doing the jobs that Liberals won't take...

632 ec marm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:41:59am

re: #613 BeerForMyHorses I've been thinking the same thing for days; 'Archduke Ahmadinejad'. Sure hope it doesn't come to that, but this country has a long history of nut cases popping up out of the blue and taking out someone famous.
Reagan, Ronald (survived)
Kennedy, Robert and John
Lennon, John
King, Martin Luther
Lincoln, Abraham
and so on...

633 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:43:13am

e-mail and self-reporting, done.

That picture is just sad, almost perversely so.

634 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:44:38am
635 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:45:42am

re: #630 Thanos

Do you have a link for this:

selling guns to PKK terrorists

.

Not that I'm a fan of Turkey after the way they've acted (refusing passage), but the PKK, is Turkey's excuse...

I thought that BW was providing security under contract, but perhaps they have rogues in their ranks.

636 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:45:55am

re: #560 cbinflux Thanks and I'll check with my oncologist when he returns from vacation. Don't know if it's for me or not, and the side effects warnings ("Death, heart attack etc. etc.) weren't the most charming I've read, but I will check it out with him and THANK YOU you bringing it to my attention.
Thank you.

637 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:46:01am

Man bailed after gun found on plane

A man arrested on suspicion of smuggling a firearm into Britain on a Ryanair flight has been released on police bail.

The man, 39, from Blackpool, was detained at the town's airport after officers found a blank firing gun and ammunition in his luggage.

Lancashire Constabulary went to meet the flight from Gerona, Spain, on Friday afternoon following an anonymous tip-off to security staff.

A police spokesman emphasised that the man was not believed to be a terrorist and was not thought to have smuggled the weapon for anyone else.

"The man has been questioned by officers and released on police bail pending further enquiries," he said.

"At this stage officers are not treating the incident as terrorist related, nor do we believe the gun was intended to be passed on to anyone else."

A spokeswoman for Ryanair said the handgun was found in the man's hold luggage. She added that Ryanair is co-operating fully with the police investigation.

Nothing is ever terror related.

638 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:46:24am

Way the hell off topic:

Protests in Burma Against the Junta are Growing

Burma's detained pro-democracy activist Aung San Suu Kyi has greeted protesting Buddhist monks when they were allowed to march past her home in Rangoon.
Witnesses say police who have been blocking University Avenue since protests began five days ago Saturday allowed at least 1,000 monks to approach the opposition leader's home, where she has spent much of the past two decades under house arrest.

According to local witnesses, nearly 2,000 monks marched for the fifth straight day to Sule Pagoda in downtown Rangoon.

639 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:47:09am

re: #635 Cap'n DOC

Mercenaries are sometimes so, well... mercenary.

640 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:47:55am

re: #635 Cap'n DOC

re: #630 Thanos

Do you have a link for this:

selling guns to PKK terrorists

.

Not that I'm a fan of Turkey after the way they've acted (refusing passage), but the PKK, is Turkey's excuse...

I thought that BW was providing security under contract, but perhaps they have rogues in their ranks.


[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

[Link: www.stratfor.com...]

641 ec marm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:48:55am

re: #633 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

e-mail and self-reporting, done.

That picture is just sad, almost perversely so.

I adjusted the contrast and brightness and "boxed' a closeup of the TSA agent, here. I don't know if I made it any better, but I just had to look at that close up.

642 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:49:16am

re: #638 Thanos

Way the hell off topic:

Protests in Burma Against the Junta are Growing


Burma's detained pro-democracy activist Aung San Suu Kyi has greeted protesting Buddhist monks when they were allowed to march past her home in Rangoon.
Witnesses say police who have been blocking University Avenue since protests began five days ago Saturday allowed at least 1,000 monks to approach the opposition leader's home, where she has spent much of the past two decades under house arrest.

According to local witnesses, nearly 2,000 monks marched for the fifth straight day to Sule Pagoda in downtown Rangoon.

"on behalf of the people"...how courageous

643 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:50:34am

re: #630 Thanos

I agree that mercs are needed, however there are other things coming out, like investigations of BW personell selling guns to PKK terrorists. I am concerned that a handfull of yahoos are going to get the needed services thrown into ill repute and discredit.

Some contractors are good guys, who previously volunteered to serve their countries with tremendous dignity. And some are messed-up people who deserve prosecution.

It's like any other business: A mixed bag.

644 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:50:39am

re: #633 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

I think it's hilariously ironic. Ya, just have to laugh.

645 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:50:41am

re: #564 Cornholio Aside from hoping that never happens, I hope the folks in charge take into account where the Airliner is.
Right after 9/11 when the anger level was extremely, albeit justifiably high, some folks wondered why the Air Force didn't shoot 'em down or why Rudy didn't use surface-to-air missles to knock 'em down (?!). Again, I pray that never happens, but as horrible as the devastion was on 9/11, I'd hate to think of how bad it would have been if two airliners, chock full of fuel, were shot down right over the middle of Manhattan Island.

646 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:50:47am

re: #641 ec marm

re: #633 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet


e-mail and self-reporting, done.

That picture is just sad, almost perversely so.


I adjusted the contrast and brightness and "boxed' a closeup of the TSA agent, here. I don't know if I made it any better, but I just had to look at that close up.


Yes, the close-up reveals that it's not full niqab in that you can see through the veil.

647 Canadian Guy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:50:56am

Check out these gems from Rather's former colleagues in a story about Rather's lawsuit

Dan Rather: Victim of a right-wing conspiracy?

Rather’s former colleagues at CBS have something to say.

Take, for example, Don Hewitt, the legendary producer of “60 Minutes.” “Any news organization, print or broadcast, has the right to protect its reputation by divesting itself of a reporter, irrespective of who he or she is, who it feels reported as fact something that reflected his or her biases more than the facts bear,” he said in a NEWSWEEK interview. “And if the reporter’s defense is that he or she had been ‘had,’ isn’t he or she someone a news organization worth its salt can no longer trust not to be ‘had’ again.”

Hewitt says he had questioned whether the reporting was biased at a CBS meeting convened to discuss the controversy that began to swell after the story aired. “Let me ask one question,” he recalls addressing the gathering. “If this had been John Kerry, wouldn’t you have been more careful about the story?” A senior CBS News insider said Rather is further damaging his reputation by suing. “I think it looks pathetic,” this executive told NEWSWEEK on condition of not being identified. "It looks like the musing of an older man who can’t let go. This will have no winners. But the biggest loser will be Dan.”

648 rightwinger3  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:51:01am

re: #637 NJDhockeyfan

NJD, I agree with your sarcastic "Nothing is ever terror related". But this was a gun in the HOLD baggage. Probably for personal protection and I believe handguns are illegal in England.

649 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:51:45am

re: #633 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Since we can't see the nun's other side (not the Dark Side, and no pun intended), it could possibly be that she was wearing a large rosary attached to her belt which would have set off the walk-through scanner.

Many 'order' nuns (don't know the female equivalent of Orders for priests) wear a rather large rosary.

Just offering a potential explanation.

650 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:52:57am
Official says Iran produces sophisticated arms...He maintained that every country including Iran has some capabilities which are not usually displayed in such maneuvers and are used at time of war for ambushing purpose.

[Link: www2.irna.com...]

651 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:53:09am

re: #641 ec marm

re: #633 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet


e-mail and self-reporting, done.

That picture is just sad, almost perversely so.


I adjusted the contrast and brightness and "boxed' a closeup of the TSA agent, here. I don't know if I made it any better, but I just had to look at that close up.

Was that wheelchair for the nun?

652 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:53:25am

re: #573 NJDhockeyfan IF IT IS TRUE, they'd better search those families of the victims real carefully before letting him meet with them, ya know?
Even so it's a really stupid, shitty idea.

653 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:54:34am

re: #643 Cognito

Did it occur to you that those convoys run a dangerous guantlet every day? That they strictly enforce a stay back/away distance?

I think that you're just being Contrarian again. Score another roger of Cog.

654 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:56:10am

re: #627 Bucephalas

No I don't think so. He was being tame, respectful and diplomatic to the point of being silly. I think the reason why the Pope is irrelevant in international affairs is because, like the Dali Lama, he's the leader of a peaceful religion. He's also a diplomat and he has no choice other that to preach peace and understanding. He'll might condemn Al Qaeda (although not by name) but he'll also condem Israel's treatment of the Palestinians. He has to. I don't fault the Vatican for that but it's their role.

655 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:56:38am

re: #631 cbinflux

re: #630 Thanos

They're just doing the jobs that Liberals won't take...

Ain't that the truth. I respect people who work for "mercenary" outfits -- because they are absolutely needed. Most of their job is to guard convoys and workers who are trying to rebuild Iraq. I have a friend's son who is still being held hostage (the press isn't covering this much at all, even though it's probably Quds holding him. ) [Link: home.freecote.com...]

He's not Alan Johnston or Korean, just an american citizen and ex-soldier who served in Iraq and Afghanistan.

656 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:56:46am

My Nuns back at St. Martin of Tours in Amityville were Dominicans. The old nun in the supply office (a closet, really) who sold low price note books and pencils and the such, huge, huge, NY Mets fan. Her little supply shop/closet was full of NY Mets memorabilia. This was about the time of 'The Miracle Mets', so who knows what the praers of a Catholic nun did for the Mets.

657 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:57:10am

re: #652 realwest

re: #573 NJDhockeyfan IF IT IS TRUE, they'd better search those families of the victims real carefully before letting him meet with them, ya know?
Even so it's a really stupid, shitty idea.

Didn't read the story. Were they from Iran, perhaps?

658 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:57:18am

re: #654 Killgore Trout

There's that, and then there's the elephant in the Church and seminaries.

659 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:57:45am

re: #653 cbinflux

Whatever, man. The video speaks for itself. Contractors in Iraq have overstepped their bounds again and again -- to the point of firing on American military -- and I feel no inclination to excuse them.

660 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:58:23am

re: #651 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Yes, I think so. and the airport employee who's sitting is the designated pusher.

661 Mich-again  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:58:24am

I see the incident at Raleigh Durham has officially been swept under the rug. Nothing to see here people, move along..

FBI: Incident on Flight to RDU Posed No Threat
[Link: www.wral.com...]

662 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:59:15am

re: #655 Thanos

Word to Cogtrarian

Most of their job is to guard convoys and workers who are trying to rebuild Iraq

and pols, and diplomats, and prisoners headed to interrogation...

663 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:59:50am

re: #659 Cognito

You are a blithering idiot.

664 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:59:57am

re: #658 cbinflux

You can't mention the elephant this early in the morning! The resulting seething will cause headaches for Stinky, and he's been having a tough time lately.

665 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:00:21am

Taliban Still Rampant in Swat, near Peshawar

PESHAWAR, Pakistan -- A bomb exploded outside a hotel in northern Pakistan Thursday, killing one police officer and wounding four of the guards, police said.

No one immediately claimed responsibility for the attack in Swat, a scenic valley where security forces are confronting Islamic militants.

Mohammed Javed, the town's police chief, said the dead and injured were transported to a hospital.

No guests at the Pak-Australia Hotel, which has attracted both local and foreign tourists, were injured, he said.

He declined to say who might be behind the attack.

The army sent thousands of troops into the valley and Taliban strongholds along the Afghan border in July, prompting a surge in violence, including a string of suicide attacks.

Earlier this month, Islamic militants tried to blow up an ancient statue of Buddha carved into a mountainside in the area, echoing the Taliban's destruction of the famous Bamiyan statues in neighboring Afghanistan in 2001.

666 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:00:25am

re: #663 cbinflux

re: #659 Cognito

You are a blithering idiot.

ok

667 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:00:52am

re: #656 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

The one with red eyes..?

668 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:01:18am

re: #664 Killgore Trout

My baad, duude.

669 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:02:37am

Freedom Watch to run full page ad in Mondays New York times...Calling Dinnerjacket a terrorist...Fox news tv. just now.

670 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:03:18am

re: #669 storagemanager

At the discount rate?

671 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:04:23am

Off to start my day, will check in later.

Play Nice.

672 ec marm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:05:19am

re: #651 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Was that wheelchair for the nun?

It sure looks that way. The young lady to the right looks like she may be holding onto the nuns cane in her right hand.

673 Miss Trixie  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:05:41am

re: #520 phoenixgirl

with Miss Trixie, who has shapely legs for a Canadian woman,

Edofmany...omg, that was funny!

It is? I don't get it ...

*scratches head*

{realwest} Good morning *smoooch* *hug* Having a good day, sweetie?

674 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:06:07am

re: #644 Killgore Trout


I think it's hilariously ironic. Ya, just have to laugh.

It's not very funny when you're going through it. Like this nun, I was frisked, but in front of an entire planeload of passengers, by a female security agent running her hands over my breasts while I was wearing a skin-tight tank top while also being forced to keep my legs in a open stance. I furiously brushed her hands aside, and they called additional security on me. It was humiliating and I swore I would never, ever undergo a search like that again, if I had to scream bloody murder and be arrested.

675 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:06:14am

AP: Bush To Veto Kids' Health Care

Our friend Jennifer Loven.

676 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:06:18am

re: #672 ec marm

That's not a cane, it's a bloodied, yard-long ruler.

677 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:07:17am

Miss Trixie,

Did you see my comment upthread for you?

678 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:07:52am

re: #676 cbinflux

re: #672 ec marm

That's not a cane, it's a bloodied, yard-long ruler.

rah roh...that was last night!...c'mon catch up dude...lol!

679 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:08:02am

re: #674 Irene NYC

They've fondled my 'nads before, doesn't bother me.

680 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:08:17am

re: #675 JammieWearingFool

AP: Bush To Veto Kids' Health Care

Our friend Jennifer Loven.


Good for him. 'bout time he started vetoing congress.

681 Canadian Guy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:08:33am

re: #669 storagemanager

Freedom Watch to run full page ad in Mondays New York times...Calling Dinnerjacket a terrorist...Fox news tv. just now.

Freedoms Watch spokesperson told Fox they are getting the same rate as Moveon, $65,000, but no guarantee the ad will run Monday.

Here's text of the ad

The text of the advertisement follows.
For more information about Freedom's Watch, please visit
[Link: www.freedomswatch.org...]
Ahmadinejad Is A Terrorist
Columbia University is wrong to give him a platform.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad threatens our nation and the
freedoms we value. He has supported attacks on our soldiers and our allies.
He should be treated as the terrorist that he is. Yet, while Columbia gives a terrorist like Ahmadinejad a platform to
speak, they refuse to allow the ROTC on campus.
What has happened to this prestigious university?
People who support killing Americans are welcome. But the military that defends them is not.
Columbia should be ashamed of its actions.
Freedom's Watch knows that America and the forces of freedom are right.
We know the threat of terrorism is real. And we know Democracy must
prevail.
The terrorists and their appeasers are wrong.
"And God willing, with the force of God behind it, we shall soon
experience a world without the United States and Zionism."
-- Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
(CNN, 10/27/05)

Support Freedom's Watch.
Stand up for freedom and those who defend it.
Surrender is not an option.
Victory is America's only choice.

682 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:08:36am

re: #662 cbinflux

re: #655 Thanos

Word to Cogtrarian


Most of their job is to guard convoys and workers who are trying to rebuild Iraq

and pols, and diplomats, and prisoners headed to interrogation...

COGTRARIAN! ROFLMAO...wow...needed that...

St. Cog Defender of the Indefensible MSM...we love you man.

683 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:08:39am

re: #673 Miss Trixie

re: #520 phoenixgirl


with Miss Trixie, who has shapely legs for a Canadian woman,

Edofmany...omg, that was funny!

It is? I don't get it ...

*scratches head*

{realwest} Good morning *smoooch* *hug* Having a good day, sweetie?

OK, now I'm going.


I just thought you had shapely legs. And how many Canadian women do I know?

None, personally, and just from TV, you probably have better legs than Alanis Morrissette.

684 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:08:39am

re: #676 cbinflux

HA!

685 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:08:44am

re: #659 Cognito

Okay. Linky for

...to the point of firing on American military

No name-calling please. I want to see it.

686 ec marm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:08:52am

re: #676 cbinflux

That's not a cane, it's a bloodied, yard-long ruler.

The h8ters are up early this morning, I see. Though, that did make me laugh.

687 newsjunkie_ky  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:09:15am

re: #679 Killgore Trout

re: #674 Irene NYC

They've fondled my 'nads before, doesn't bother me.

Bet you enjoyed it!

688 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:09:43am

Bye, for now, and this time I mean it.

689 Ma Sands  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:09:46am

re: #661 Mich-again

Yeah...prob'ly the two "mideastern" folks were praying in the aisle, and had asked for seat belt extenders...and the airline and everyone else probably didn't want to get in the legal mess the six non-flying imams are still causing from my hometown's airport, a couple of months ago...BUT! --it's too late...they'll get sued anyway, flak from C.A.I.R., etc., just because there was the tiniest objection, holding them, searching, suspicion-ing, etc. ...just watch -- it's all a part of "push, push, push"...

690 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:10:13am

re: #614 filetandrelease Well as you know Blackwater is headquarted here in North Carolina. They maintain an extremely low profile.
As to what happened over there I don't know.
I do know that troops - and that includes Americans who are hired by the American government to provide Security for Embassy personnel and others, are all subject to the strains and tensions that come with their line of work. Most of them, through training or experience or both, are extremely able to handle situations such as have been reported (and many different versions have been reported) but if it turned out that they accidentally shot some Irqui civilians, it wouldn't surprise me nor would it justify the treatment Blackwater 5 are getting both in the media and from the effin' State Department.Things may be black and white when you're writing your news article from the safety of the Green Zone, but it's all pretty much grey in the real world.

691 Miss Trixie  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:10:41am

re: #558 Irene NYC

re: #513 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Ed,

Since you see Miss Trixie, would you please tell her that yesterday someone posted the code to format the music symbol that she used to use to greet everyone good morning with.

"&" + "#9834" %u266A
"&" + "#9835" %u266B
"&" + "#9836" %u266C

Thanks, toots! Lessee ...

&#9834 &#9835 &#9836 Good morning {LGF} &#9834 &#9835 &#9836

:D

692 Irene NYC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:10:50am

re: #679 Killgore Trout

I'm glad it didn't bother you. But it bothered me. I had just had an operation and was feeling a bit delicate. Even so, in the normal course of things, this is not something I want done to me in front of all the other passengers.

693 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:10:55am

re: #685 Cap'n DOC

re: #659 Cognito

Okay. Linky for

...to the point of firing on American military
No name-calling please. I want to see it.

Will it make a difference? The problem is, people here call for a 'linky' with a wave of the hand, and after I waste my time finding one, they say, "Ah, doesn't matter to me anyway."

So if I show up with a 'linky' will it make a difference?

694 karmic_inquisitor  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:11:19am

In case you were wondering how to observe Ramadan in space, The Government of Malaysia has come to your aid.

695 filetandrelease  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:11:20am

OT

Blackwater. I have read a couple of books by Richard Marcinko (sp) an ex seal with a reputation, and remember him saying that one day we will need him. That day is now. My gut suggest there is more to this story than meets the press, probably obvious, and some good guys are being hung out to dry in an effort to appease Maliki, who may not be for the best interest of the U.S.

696 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:11:37am

re: #681 Canadian Guy
Thank you...that made my day.

697 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:11:43am

re: #685 Cap'n DOC

re: #659 Cognito

Okay. Linky for

...to the point of firing on American military
No name-calling please. I want to see it.

And I hope the 'name-calling' part wasn't intended for me, because I don't do that.

698 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:12:11am

re: #684 Killgore Trout
She looks like Nun Knuckles Nellie from Amityville. Nunchux.

/just sayin.

699 vxbush  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:12:18am

Yeah--works done, and I'm home again! I see everything is moving along swiftly here, although did someone feed Charles a sleeping pill? :D

700 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:13:15am

re: #686 ec marm

Just funnin' wif you.

701 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:13:27am

re: #626 storagemanager Great post and really GREAT LINK! Thanks.

702 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:13:38am

re: #699 vxbush


AHEM, realwest!

703 Ma Sands  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:14:34am

vxbush...I have a chocolate link for you... :)

704 vxbush  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:14:47am

re: #702 cbinflux

REAL?! You did it? I'm tellin'...
/pointing finger

705 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:15:28am

re: #701 realwest

re: #626 storagemanager Great post and really GREAT LINK! Thanks.


anytime real

706 big L  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:15:33am

623-NJDhockeyfan--Mayb OJ and his tong will bust into Mahkmouds's room and toss him in a blanket ...

707 vxbush  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:15:39am

re: #703 Ma Sands

ROTFLMAO! That makes perfect sense.

And I did have a chocolate chip muffin this morning while I was waiting for servers to kick in. Good to know I'm doing my part.

708 6pat6  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:15:46am
“Subsequent investigation, including interviews with those aboard the aircraft and a search of the airplane, has determined there was never any apparent threat or danger to the passengers or crew, and the observed activity was apparently misperceived,” agents added.

So, if there was no terror threat, what exactly happened? Hey, FBI, if it wasn't a big deal, tell us what happened! How about you, ICE? Raleigh PD? If it was not a big deal, tell us what happened!

709 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:15:53am

It's nucking futs that anyone here does not know that SH*T HAPPENS in war! But, by all means, hav another go at derailing.

710 vxbush  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:16:52am

Ah, the cat is happy; I made room for her on my lap by putting the laptop on one knee so she can take residence on the other knee.

Life is good.

711 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:16:58am

re: #693 Cognito

Please don't be contrary. I asked politely for a link if you have one.

I ain't looking to start an argument, but it would be really helpful if you're going to make an assertion of that magnitude, you'd better be able to support it.

I can probably give you a link to the effect we never set foot on the moon, or that's it's actually Al Gore's ToeJam, but I've yet to read, anywhere, that BW personnel have fired on our military.

Now. Do we get a link or not?

712 Miss Trixie  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:16:59am

{vxbush} Honey, I'm so glad you're back and ok. *hug* treat yourself to lots of choccie.

:)

713 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:17:24am

re: #630 Thanos I've seen reports of a Ductch company selling weapons and the like, but haven't seen anything about Blackwater 5 doing it. Do you have any links for it?
Fair Notice: I'm a big fan of Blackwater 5 and other groups providing security - I read somewhere, that there are 129,00 or so "private security" personnel (or as that asshole Kos would call 'em, "Mercenaires") in Iraq right now - damn near as many as the number of troops we have, even after the Surge.).

714 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:17:43am

re: #710 vxbush

We've been cat-sitting lately. They're not soo bad.

715 vxbush  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:18:05am

re: #712 Miss Trixie

And I'm glad you've got your notes back. Mornings seems slightly less melodic without them.

716 Carol Herman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:18:21am

ONE: You can't add the FBI to the terrorism list, because they don't know what terrorism IS.

TWO: If you remember back to Nixon, you'd realize the #2 guy in the FBI, with access to "court" testimony; which is supposed to show up only in court; made headlines. TREASON. So you can add to your list, that after JFK got shot in Dallas, our government went OUT of the terrorism/treason "business." Into something else, entirely.

3: Oddly enough, with the passengers "held" inside the plane, with the two terrorists, they used their cell phones. And, alerted the police, and media. And, their families.

Not sure, but I think the plane held 47 passengers. Plus crew.

And, all they had was less than an hour to get this story OUT, and to top the FBI at catching criminals; AND alerting the public.

Nobody goes on board planes, thinking they are on "missions." But sometimes? Yes. You are called upon.

My son told me (because he flies a lot), that his Chinese martial arts training would ensure he wasn't a victim. He'd know he could use paraphernalia readily available; and aim at a terrorist's eyes. He also knows he could scoop out the overhead luggage racks; making it quite impossible for a "few" terrorists to actually gain an advantage of the "many."

Yes, here is a story of an "inconvenience," you won't readily forget.

But when Newt Gingrich, now advertising himself as presidential timber; tells you he'll bring "SOLUTIONS" to government, he's lying through his teeth.

Remember this: JUST LIKE ISRAELIS, IN THE MAJORITY, AMERICANS AREN'T VICTIMS, EITHER.

So? Only victims sit and kvetch for 45-minutes.

Everyone else can learn that the FBI didn't get the last word. And, they're far away from the old harms, where they saw JFK assassinated; and Nixon had to resign from office.

Those were the old days. Before the Internet.

IF we had a movie industry? You'd get a movie out of this in one heck of a hurry. With very alert passengers. And? Perhaps two terrorists holding their private parts, because someone decided a good way to keep them seated was to spill hot coffee into their laps.

YOU. ARE. NOT. A. VICTIM!

And, Annie Jacobsen writes for the Wall Street Journal. (She's got a better by-line than any of the "chaz-ers" up at the WashPost of the fish wrap in NYC. Did you notice? The New Yuk Times cut itself into a smaller paper; not even as good anymore to use when you're training puppies.

Sorry, if some of this just flies over a few heads. Some people really do have a difficult time reading BETWEEN THE LINES. And, not taking media's story telling for granted. So what?

717 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:18:22am

re: #688 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Hot Air Headlines picked up your nun pic.

718 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:18:46am

re: #711 Cap'n DOC

re: #693 Cognito

Please don't be contrary. I asked politely for a link if you have one.

I ain't looking to start an argument, but it would be really helpful if you're going to make an assertion of that magnitude, you'd better be able to support it.

I can probably give you a link to the effect we never set foot on the moon, or that's it's actually Al Gore's ToeJam, but I've yet to read, anywhere, that BW personnel have fired on our military.

Now. Do we get a link or not?

Fine.

Here you go: Contractors arrested by Marines.

I'll be interested to hear your response.

No reflection on you, yet, but tpically, faced with facts, people retreat to namby-pamby digression.

719 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:18:55am

re: #710 vxbush

Ah, the cat is happy; I made room for her on my lap by putting the laptop on one knee so she can take residence on the other knee.

Life is good.


Mohammad cat

720 filetandrelease  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:19:01am

This thread has no rails.

721 big L  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:19:51am

573 NJD...I'll bet that little bastard is headed for WTC anyway.I hope there is still some Protestors plannedto great him block him
It is just like the imigration bill.Nowthe illegal aliens lobby is slipping the amnesty bit-by-bit into other bills. Like the Dream Visa act that gives illegas the discount for in-state college tuition and allows chain migration for relatives.
This is dick durbin gift to us all in a defense appropriation bill of IRaq.
/effer

722 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:19:58am

re: #718 Cognito

Search for "Stephen T. Johnson" if you're in a hurry. But as always, I suggest you read the whole thing.

723 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:20:30am

re: #720 filetandrelease

Love your nic

724 vxbush  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:20:38am

re: #714 cbinflux

Excellent! Soon you will miss the lovely fur, and you will decide that you need to open your home to a lovely beastie. You can go to your local humane society and bring home a new family member!

725 swamprat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:21:15am

Cognito in full troll mode now. Posting videos of cars aggressively approaching convoys and getting shot. The do-not-approach-rule is well known and certainly well enforced. Please note that in most of those vids, After the car was shot, the convoy then STOPS. You are either disingenuous, or a complete moron.

726 big L  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:22:08am

721-NJD-anyway it is the same thing with Ahmadinejad, the US and Iran will say one thing and then do another...
/"ph it doesn't hurt for him to drive -by, Oh it doesn't hurt for him to get out and look around.

727 ec marm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:22:39am

re: #700 cbinflux

Just funnin' wif you.

I know. It was funny. What a night and day difference between Judeo-Christian people and ROPers, huh?

Charles sleeping late this morning. Tammy Bruce on lgf last night.
/ I think I'll rent "Chasing Amy" tonight. I forget how it ended.

728 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:23:44am

re: #725 swamprat

Cognito in full troll mode now. Posting videos of cars aggressively approaching convoys and getting shot. The do-not-approach-rule is well known and certainly well enforced. Please note that in most of those vids, After the car was shot, the convoy then STOPS. You are either disingenuous, or a complete moron.

ok

729 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:24:10am

re: #718 Cognito

Go stand posts with them, run the guantlets that they run, struggle in unbearable heat. Walk a mile..., but until then get some help with your issues.

730 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:25:03am

re: #729 cbinflux

re: #718 Cognito

Go stand posts with them, run the guantlets that they run, struggle in unbearable heat. Walk a mile..., but until then get some help with your issues.

The Marines, you mean?

(This is what I meant about "namby-pamby digression," above.)

731 filetandrelease  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:25:06am

re: #723 cbinflux


Thank you, in some circles it actually annoys people, can you imagine? The irony is that typically I release catches. But it is a small thing I do to annoy those most deservings of being annoyed.

732 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:25:33am

re: #720 filetandrelease

This thread has no rails.

we use ice skates this time of day

733 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:26:14am

re: #673 Miss Trixie*smooch* right back atcha sweetie! I'm doing ok today thank, how are you, the "Canadian Lady with the great Legs"?!

734 vxbush  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:26:21am

The Lizard Master awakes!

735 SeafoodGumbo  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:26:31am

So the FBI feels that this was a "misperception." Maybe it was, but considering that...

1.this was a flight from Jacksonville to Raleigh
2.a truly thorough investigation would involve Feds from J'ville and Raleigh
3.CAIR held training for FBI agents and others in Jacksonville

...I'm not so sure there's nothing to this. Are the FBI agents who feel this is a "misperception" ones who have been through CAIR sensitivity training? It's a legitimate question.

On December 1, 2004 Yahoo News/Newswire reported, "the Florida office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-FL) today held a diversity training workshop on Islam and the American Muslim community at the FBI's Jacksonville Division All Employee Conference. More than 150 law enforcement agents, including FBI and Joint Terrorism Task Force supervisory personnel, attended the workshop that examined basic Islamic beliefs and concepts, common stereotypes of Islam and Muslims and ways in which to improve interactions with the Muslim community. Agents were able to ask questions throughout the two-hour CAIR-FL presentation."
736 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:26:35am

re: #725 swamprat

You will now activate his Full Woe-Is-Me Whine mode. I am sooo weary of his and CZ's schticks.

737 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:27:12am

re: #725 swamprat

Cognito in full troll mode now. Posting videos of cars aggressively approaching convoys and getting shot. The do-not-approach-rule is well known and certainly well enforced. Please note that in most of those vids, After the car was shot, the convoy then STOPS. You are either disingenuous, or a complete moron.


aggressively approaching?...hmmm

738 Carol Herman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:27:17am

There was also a small plane air crash ... into a restaurant ... YESTERDAY. Also, in Raleigh-Durham area.

Foggy? Yes. Visibility was way down.

And, somebody at the scene of the destroyed restaurant, had a camera. (Or a cell phone that does video?) The pictures were available at Drudge. (Or InstaPundit.) BEFORE, the arrival of the fire trucks! So you see it from the beginning. I doubt anyone aboard the little plane survived.

The sprinklers were going, overhead. And, the people, before the police cordon tape were put up ... had all evacuated. There was a photo of a man, inside, (with the sprinklers on). Asking if everybody had left. TRUE.

No one (except aboard the plane), were injured or dead.

In America, PEOPLE race in to HELP. Sure the police and fire departments were called. But notice this: I saw a tape of this on the Internet. Where people who were on the scene RAN. INTO. HELP.

Let me repeat this for the retarded: JUST LIKE IN ISRAEL, AMERICANS, FOR THE MOST PART, ARE NOT A BUNCH OF "KVETCHING" VICTIMS.

Not only that! But I bet most of you know this, like you know your alphabet.

739 filetandrelease  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:27:22am

re: #732 albusteve

Oh, no wonder why I keep landing on my ass.

740 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:27:36am

re: #713 realwest

re: #630 Thanos I've seen reports of a Ductch company selling weapons and the like, but haven't seen anything about Blackwater 5 doing it. Do you have any links for it?
Fair Notice: I'm a big fan of Blackwater 5 and other groups providing security - I read somewhere, that there are 129,00 or so "private security" personnel (or as that asshole Kos would call 'em, "Mercenaires") in Iraq right now - damn near as many as the number of troops we have, even after the Surge.).


I posted two links up thread Realwest. There's an investigation, two Blackwater guys have apparently gone state's evidence in the probe. This might be stirring up old stuff though, looks like the alleged arms sales took place in '05. Someone's definitely putting blackwater in the news.

Here's the CNN story

[Link: edition.cnn.com...]

741 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:27:37am

re: #732 albusteve
Phew! Inflating bowling lane bumpers...

742 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:28:09am

re: #718 Cognito

re: #711 Cap'n DOC


re: #693 Cognito

Please don't be contrary. I asked politely for a link if you have one.

I ain't looking to start an argument, but it would be really helpful if you're going to make an assertion of that magnitude, you'd better be able to support it.

I can probably give you a link to the effect we never set foot on the moon, or that's it's actually Al Gore's ToeJam, but I've yet to read, anywhere, that BW personnel have fired on our military.

Now. Do we get a link or not?


Fine.

Here you go: Contractors arrested by Marines.

I'll be interested to hear your response.

No reflection on you, yet, but tpically, faced with facts, people retreat to namby-pamby digression.


They did not work for Black water...you did not tell the truth...yet again...

Sixteen American security guards were arrested and jailed by U.S. Marines in battle-scarred Fallujah in 2005 following a day of shooting incidents in which they allegedly fired on a Marine observation post, a combat patrol and civilians walking and driving in the city, about 40 miles west of Baghdad.

The guards, employed by Zapata Engineering of North Carolina, were imprisoned for three days. “They were detained because their actions posed a threat to coalition forces. I would say that constitutes a serious event,” Marine spokesman Lt. Col. Dave Lapan said at the time

743 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:28:25am

Still only the first quarter but South Frorida is putting it to North Carolina 14-0...

744 vxbush  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:28:28am

re: #730 Cognito

(This is what I meant about "namby-pamby digression," above.)

Excuse me? I realize you're talking about the diversion of topic to be "namby-pamby", but I think there is a legitimate point that you should get a better understanding of the job itself that these contractors perform.

745 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:28:30am
And I hope the 'name-calling' part wasn't intended for me, because I don't do that.

Followed immediately by:

No reflection on you, yet, but tpically, faced with facts, people retreat to namby-pamby digression.

You're one funny disingenuous fellow Cognito.

And for someone who is a master of the rebuttal contortion, even more so.

746 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:29:23am

re: #742 storagemanager

re: #718 Cognito

re: #711 Cap'n DOC

re: #693 CognitoPlease don't be contrary. I asked politely for a link if you have one.

I ain't looking to start an argument, but it would be really helpful if you're going to make an assertion of that magnitude, you'd better be able to support it.

I can probably give you a link to the effect we never set foot on the moon, or that's it's actually Al Gore's ToeJam, but I've yet to read, anywhere, that BW personnel have fired on our military.

Now. Do we get a link or not?


Fine.Here you go: Contractors arrested by Marines.

I'll be interested to hear your response.

No reflection on you, yet, but tpically, faced with facts, people retreat to namby-pamby digression.


They did not work for Black water...you did not tell the truth...yet again...
Sixteen American security guards were arrested and jailed by U.S. Marines in battle-scarred Fallujah in 2005 following a day of shooting incidents in which they allegedly fired on a Marine observation post, a combat patrol and civilians walking and driving in the city, about 40 miles west of Baghdad.The guards, employed by Zapata Engineering of North Carolina, were imprisoned for three days. “They were detained because their actions posed a threat to coalition forces. I would say that constitutes a serious event,” Marine spokesman Lt. Col. Dave Lapan said at the time

Huh. Weird. I'm glancing upthread, and all I see is "contractors."

747 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:29:57am

re: #744 vxbush

re: #730 Cognito

(This is what I meant about "namby-pamby digression," above.)
Excuse me? I realize you're talking about the diversion of topic to be "namby-pamby", but I think there is a legitimate point that you should get a better understanding of the job itself that these contractors perform.

I know it well.

748 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:30:23am

re: #741 cbinflux

re: #732 albusteve
Phew! Inflating bowling lane bumpers...

wont help...you'll just richoche around!...(like I do most of the time)...I'm waiting for a penii thread

749 Miss Trixie  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:30:59am

re: #733 realwest

re: #673 Miss Trixie*smooch* right back atcha sweetie! I'm doing ok today thank, how are you, the "Canadian Lady with the great Legs"?!

Can't complain and I'm procrastinating getting my chores done today by being here. You should know - I did sent you some pics!

Enough procrastinating - work to be done. have a good day, luv, and I'll find you later *smooch*

750 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:31:15am

re: #695 filetandrelease " My gut suggest there is more to this story than meets the press, probably obvious, and some good guys are being hung out to dry in an effort to appease Maliki, who may not be for the best interest of the U.S."
Yep.

751 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:31:20am

re: #745 Geepers

And I hope the 'name-calling' part wasn't intended for me, because I don't do that.
Followed immediately by:
No reflection on you, yet, but tpically, faced with facts, people retreat to namby-pamby digression.
You're one funny disingenuous fellow Cognito.

And for someone who is a master of the rebuttal contortion, even more so.

I didn't call anyone names. And if me saying "namby-pamby" is too jagged for you, then I wonder if I've wandered into some weird parallel LGF blog...

752 storagemanager  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:32:07am

re: #746 Cognito

nevermind...I should know better.

753 heretic  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:32:51am

I think the FBI has settled on an overall policy of denying *all* terrorist incidents on the grounds that (1) it will prevent panic among the stupid and unstrustworthy hoi polloi, and (2) it's not politically correct to accuse Muslims of being mass murderers and terrorists, so it's better just not to go there in the first place unless there are actual heaps of bleeding body parts that can't be ignored.

The same sort of policy has the Air Force has been pursing about UFO's since the 50's.

I wonder if there's any way to get this policy reversed, and to FORCE the FBI into more transparency.

754 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:33:30am

re: #718 Cognito

Your link title appears to be disingenuous at best. Nowhere do I see any reference to BW employees being arrested. I note the word 'alleged' or variations of the word 'allege' used at least three times.

I can well understand why there are many in uniform that would be unhappy about the pay differential - I deal with that on a daily basis.

It is also a good thing to remember that unless you've been in the shit, you have no idea what it smells like - and there is no possible way to describe it.

There are examples to be found every damned day of Bad Apples.

Thank you for the link. Your assertion is unwarranted and unsubstantiated.

Do you have another?

755 Ma Sands  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:33:58am

re: #738 Carol Herman

Amen. :)

756 Carol Herman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:35:31am

re: #695 filetandrelease

OT

Blackwater. I have read a couple of books by Richard
Marcinko (sp) an ex seal with a reputation, and remember him saying
that one day we will need him. That day is now. My gut suggest there is
more to this story than meets the press, probably obvious, and some
good guys are being hung out to dry in an effort to appease Maliki, who
may not be for the best interest of the U.S.

On the other hand, it's Maliki who may be twisting in the wind?

Bush doesn't like publicity of any kind.

And, neither do Special Ops people. Or Navy Seals.

What we don't know, but is starting to seem obvious to me; is that Bush and Company have decided Irak needs to be split in 3.

The whole surge is to train the sunnis to take care of themselves. And, this is on the agenda.

Which is what has pissed Maliki off, no end.

The Kurds? First up to working with the USA. Now, it seems the sunnis have climbed on board.

While the Shi'a are out in the cold.

What will Iraqi politics do to a leader that loses altitude?

Given that some of Maliki's chips are with iran and syria. And, given that Israel just busted "chops" in syria ... What's left on Maliki's plate?

You say, hate? And, I say, hate.

Doesn't help ya get elected during those election phases, when ordinary citizens go out to vote.

As to Blackwater: The State Department hired them, to BYPASS using Iraqi police with American soldiers. To get Ambassador Crocker from the airport back to base.

And, right now? No one's moving out of the base to do any "infrastructure for the Shi'a."

Seems to me, there's a plane there, if you looked.

Do not expect interviews for the media! Let Israel teach you a lesson. They found NOT TALKING TO THE PRESS to be to their own advantages. (Except for Bibi. More mouth than brains.)

By the time Bush leaves office, Iraq will be a "federation." 3 PARTS. And, two will work against ONE. Will all the Shi'a line up to be "ONE?" I have no idea; but even the Pied Piper wasn't so lucky.

Don't worry if you don't get my comments. There's no "test" to follow.

757 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:36:04am

re: #754 Cap'n DOC

re: #718 Cognito

Your link title appears to be disingenuous at best. Nowhere do I see any reference to BW employees being arrested. I note the word 'alleged' or variations of the word 'allege' used at least three times.

I can well understand why there are many in uniform that would be unhappy about the pay differential - I deal with that on a daily basis.

Are you kidding?

Incredible. Faced with unassailable fact, this is your response? I told you that contractors had fired on Marines.

You asked for a link.

I provided one.

And yet -- yet! -- you look away.

758 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:36:18am

re: #704 {vxbush} Hey there, good morning! You sure sound chipper this morning, are you really feeling better now that it's over? I mean, are you healing up quickly and nicely? Sure hope so.
AND I won't begin to dignify a certain poster's bullshit allegations about me feeding Charles a sleeping pill.
Criminey, folks, even Charles needs some sleep or whatever he may be doing this morning - give him a break!

759 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:37:54am

I KNEW IT! I KNEW that the minute I started typing my #758, Charles would put up a new thread. It's uncanny how he always seems to do that, just after I comment on letting him sleep in a while!

760 albusteve  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:38:11am

hey cap...it's gettin stale

761 vxbush  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:39:37am

re: #758 realwest

I think I am feeling better. The procedure was a bit painful, but I've had far worse from just dealing with my stupid body. After talking it over with Mr. Doc, we came up with a plan of action. We're going to follow it for a month, check some bloodwork, and see how I feel. If I continue to feel better, then we'll continue the regimen.

So far, so good. I might need to see a different doc for a totally different issue, but I'm going to try and wait so I'm only handling one issue at a time!

762 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:40:24am
And if me saying "namby-pamby" is too jagged for you,

Like I said you're a funny disingenuous fellow.

Let me know which insults aren't insulting enough for you to label them insults.

Not that you're trying to have it both ways or anything.

You're a dickhead.*

*Not name calling. Because I don't do that.

763 ec marm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:40:31am

It also is possible that the passenger(s) in question are already part of a larger investigation and the FBI is downplaying the event because there are larger fish involved.

764 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:41:27am

re: #757 Cognito

And YOU cannot read - even your own link.

YOU pull the quote and paste it. Right Here. Otherwise, you're lips are flapping. If they don't quit flapping, you be pulling on a barbed hook.

765 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:41:54am

re: #762 Geepers

And if me saying "namby-pamby" is too jagged for you,
Like I said you're a funny disingenuous fellow.

Let me know which insults aren't insulting enough for you to label them insults.

Not that you're trying to have it both ways or anything.

You're a dickhead.*

*Not name calling. Because I don't do that.

Right. Let me know when you're ready to pull this conversation back down into the realm of reason and fact.

766 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:42:14am

re: #762 Geepers

You crack me up...

767 Da_Beerfreak  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:42:22am

re: #464 Geepers

Hey!
I want to nominate that phrase "6/15er" for inclusion the LGF dictionary.
// {;-)™

768 Carol Herman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:44:05am

re: #325 BenZacharia

Coming right up

Isaiah 17:1 JPS
1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.

Israel to Syria: Use chem weapons & we'll wipe you off map

EXCELLENT POST!

Great link to an article that actually makes sense.

While in syria? Today, the undertaker who showed up to bag-the-bodies, has probably been killed by the secret police.

It's a form of "radio silence," I guess?

769 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:44:45am

re: #764 Cap'n DOC

re: #757 Cognito

And YOU cannot read - even your own link.

YOU pull the quote and paste it. Right Here. Otherwise, you're lips are flapping. If they don't quit flapping, you be pulling on a barbed hook.

You're making yourself look foolish.

Read the link.

Actually, you know what? I'll facilitate you:

Sixteen American security guards were arrested and jailed by U.S. Marines in battle-scarred Fallujah in 2005 following a day of shooting incidents in which they allegedly fired on a Marine observation post, a combat patrol and civilians walking and driving in the city, about 40 miles west of Baghdad.

Response?

770 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:49:25am

re: #769 Cognito

allegedly

You apparently couldn't read my original reply, either.

That italicized word is used numerous times in the article. Would you like me to count them?

771 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:49:45am

Just to clear up a couple things: the press is pimping the Blackwater discredited lead heavy, the more we discuss here, the more "newsworthy" it becomes. Blackwater wants to get the job done, not be in the press.

Blackwater is back in business in Iraq.

Two aides to Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani were killed in shootings within hours, prompting his Basra followers to boycott Friday sermons in protest amid fears that an internal Shiite power struggle was increasingly targeting Iraq's top Shiite cleric.
The U.S. Embassy resumed limited convoy movements with Blackwater USA protection in Baghdad, four days after all land travel by U.S. diplomats and other civilian officials was suspended in response to Iraqi outrage over the alleged killing of civilians by the American security firm.

U.S. Embassy spokeswoman Mirembe Nantongo said the decision was made after consultations with the Iraqi governments and the convoys will be allowed to leave the heavily fortified Green Zone on a select basis.

"All movements supported by the PSDs have to be mission-essential," she said, referring to an acronym for personal security details run by Blackwater and other security contractors protecting Westerners and other dignitaries in Iraq.

A top aide to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki conceded it may prove difficult for the Iraqi government to expel Western security contractors.

772 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:50:25am

re: #770 Cap'n DOC

re: #769 Cognito

allegedly
You apparently couldn't read my original reply, either.

That italicized word is used numerous times in the article. Would you like me to count them?

Right. Alleged by the Marines.

You side with the contractors. I'll side with the Marines.

773 joemama  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:50:26am

FBI..."OK, we'll take it from here!"
DHS..."The hell you will, this is ours!"
TSA..."No, it's our jurisdiction!"
Federal Air Marshal Service..."But we got one on the inside!"
Joint Terrorism Task Force..."It's the Cessna, right?"
ICE..."We don't need no stinking badges!"
Airport Police..."Hey! none of you-all can park here!"

(HUGE EXPLOSION)

(SECONDARY EXPLOSION)

774 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:51:05am

re: #769 Cognito

You're making yourself look foolish. That pain you feel is the hook being removed.

775 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:51:43am

re: #774 Cap'n DOC

re: #769 Cognito

You're making yourself look foolish. That pain you feel is the hook being removed.

I'll stick with facts, thanks.

776 Carol Herman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:51:45am

re: #75 WimbledonWomble

The MSM will have to obviously clear it through CAIR before they can report on it.


Ah, yes. The fact-checking. Such "experts."

777 irish rose  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:53:08am

Sheeesh.

People, I have a suggestion... if you can't be nice to others today, then TURN THE DAMNED COMPUTER OFF and go play a round of golf or something!

Sometimes caps are justified, and this is one of those times.

Two days of bickering and contention... ENOUGH, already!

778 insanity police  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:53:22am

I want to know more details about this "incident."

779 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:54:10am

re: #718 Cognito That's a very interesting link and does seem to support an assertion that private security guards fired on Marine positions - not quite the same as firing on Marines directly, but that's nit-picking.
That link is gonna require some careful thinking. And while reading it, try to remember that these private security guards all seem to be or be led by former Green Berets, Rangers and Seals - all of whom are certainly familiar with the current ROE's and it may be something like the fact that they get paid SO MUCH MORE than the military personnel, while actually knowing what they're doing (I'd say the former Green Berets [more properly , Special Forces - a green beret is a hat] Rangers and Seals) has created animosity because of the pay differential (and may even explain why those five Blackwater contractors were left hanging on that bridge just outside of Falluja for so long), know what their doing and are just doing it privately cause the pay is better - they are still on the same side.

780 Carol Herman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:55:47am

re: #773 joemama

A very similar occurrence happened in August; when police stopped a car, with 2 Muslim "yoots." And, then you got the argument:

"Fireworks."

Not-fireworks.

Finally, when the fighting cops and FBI agents stopped; it turned out to be "not fireworks."

So? Well, the lamestream media did not cover the story.

As if you didn't know! As if you don't use the Internet to learn about stuff on a timely basis.

The only things the lamestream fears are the days when the accountants come in, looking glum. And, the "chiefs" look even glummer.

On par with Dan Rather's law suit. Good for making popcorn. But both sides can lose, for all I care.

781 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:55:52am

re: #772 Cognito

I'll side with the Marines.

Been in the boots? SHIT HAPPENS. And it bears repeating - There are Marines that aren't happy about the pay differential. They can allege all sorts of things. Lord only knows where the bullets are coming from when your only option is covering your butt.

782 vxbush  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:56:39am

[Hmm...time for a distraction]

OMG PUPPIES!

783 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:58:15am

re: #775 Cognito

Your FACTS remain

alleged

.

Get my drift? Prolly not.

784 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:58:27am

re: #781 Cap'n DOC

re: #772 Cognito

I'll side with the Marines.
Been in the boots? SHIT HAPPENS. And it bears repeating - There are Marines that aren't happy about the pay differential. They can allege all sorts of things. Lord only knows where the bullets are coming from when your only option is covering your butt.

Right. So moments ago it never happened. Now it "happens."

And stop insulting the military -- in this case a Maj. General -- with your insinuations that this is all made up because they're jealous about "pay differential."

How patronizing. How, if you please, laughable.

785 ChildOfMary  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:59:02am

re: #771 Thanos

A top aide to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki conceded it may prove difficult for the Iraqi government to expel Western security contractors.

Yeah, especially since they seem to be incapable of protecting themselves.

786 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:05:10am

re: #784 Cognito

And how disingenuous of you.

Put it down and walk away.

I won't bother to respond to your BS about how I'm dissing the Marines or any Marine for that matter - on account of your lack of facts to support assertions. I called you on it and you don't like it. Tough.

I'm accepting of the fact that you'd stoop to that. You have no idea how I feel about the Marine Corps.

Did I see a Bait and Switch in there somewhere?

787 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:07:31am

re: #786 Cap'n DOC

re: #784 Cognito

And how disingenuous of you.

Put it down and walk away.

I won't bother to respond to your BS about how I'm dissing the Marines or any Marine for that matter - on account of your lack of facts to support assertions. I called you on it and you don't like it. Tough.

I'm accepting of the fact that you'd stoop to that. You have no idea how I feel about the Marine Corps.

Did I see a Bait and Switch in there somewhere?

Spare me.

Anyone reading along can see what happened here. You asked for a link. I provided it. You asked for a quote from that link. I provided it. Backed into a corner, you said, "There are Marines that aren't happy about the pay differential. They can allege all sorts of things."

Goodbye.

788 Irish Rose  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:14:08am

Gentlemen, this fellow lizard is respectfully asking that you agree to disagree and let it go.

It's a beautiful Saturday afternoon... and Charles has better things to do today, than babysit comments.

Give the man a break.

789 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:15:42am

re: #788 Irish RoseIf by the man you mean Charles, always.

790 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:16:21am

re: #777 irish rose

Okay, Irish Rose. I am capable of keeping my thoughts to myself, and perhaps I should do so more often. Everyone have a nice day.

791 Irish Rose  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:17:16am

re: #789 realwest

re: #788 Irish RoseIf by the man you mean Charles, always.

Indeed.

792 Irish Rose  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:19:07am

re: #790 Sharmuta

re: #777 irish rose

Okay, Irish Rose. I am capable of keeping my thoughts to myself, and perhaps I should do so more often. Everyone have a nice day.

Have a nice day yourself, Sharmuta ;).

793 right wing zephyr  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:20:52am
the msm was responsible for what is happening?

actually... Yes.

794 christheprofessor  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:22:06am

Indubitably.

795 Sgt.Slappy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:22:59am

re: #787 Cognito

Anyone reading along can see what happened here.

Survey says...

BZZZT! (Large red X flashes on screen)

I read along, and near as I can see, younz two just can't agree. (ooh, hey, it rhymed!) Remember though, you've been called out before for being full of shiite on other topics. I was "just reading along" those times too.

796 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:24:10am

re: #795 Sgt.Slappy

Well. Feel free to point out where I'm wrong, here.

797 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:26:04am

re: #795 Sgt.Slappy

Actually, you know what? Forget it. I'll just stand by post 787.

People can make up their own minds.

798 Da_Beerfreak  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:27:30am

Wow...
It sure didn't take long for full fledged Cognito Derangement Syndrome to break out on this thread for a second time!

799 joemama  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:29:56am

re: #780 Carol Herman

I remember a time when a pack of firecrackers was just that...
A Pack of Firecrackers

Now, it's considered 16 individual WMD's, and, 16 felony counts of possessing explosives with intent to...
***
Oh, and you other kid(s)...Let's keep-um-wagg'n, huh?

Intraweb fights are so droll

800 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:30:49am

Cognito says:

Incredible. Faced with unassailable fact, this is your response? I told you that contractors had fired on Marines.

Wrong.

You used the illustration of contractors firing on marines as the ultimate culmination of an assertion that contractors were routinely overstepping their bounds.

Contractors in Iraq have overstepped their bounds again and again -- to the point of firing on American military

And then whine about being required to back that assertion up with evidence.

Then after making a big deal about being required so to do:

Will it make a difference? The problem is, people here call for a 'linky' with a wave of the hand, and after I waste my time finding one, they say, "Ah, doesn't matter to me anyway."

You finally come up with one instance, from two years ago, in a hot battle zone.

That single instance of long past action just isn't sufficient to support your cumulative judgment on contractors.

You can't back up your assertions, bitch about being asked to do so, preemptively claim that your 'rabbit with a pancake on it's head' link will be dismissed as proof of close-mindedness and then make grandiose statements about "unassailable fact" which have no real relevance to proving your contention anyway.

A master debater you are not.

801 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:31:56am

re: #800 Geepers

ok

802 Sgt.Slappy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:35:46am

re: #796 Cognito

O.k. #1, well, you're Cognito.

2nd, see #1.

3rd... Hey! Did vxbush say puppies? Awww...

803 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:40:48am

re: #800 Geepers

A master debater you are not.

You, Sir, are a master. Sheer artistry.

804 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:42:59am

re: #798 Da_Beerfreak It never does take time for CDS to break out cause he brings it on himself (although he was closer to being right this time than at any other time I remember).

805 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:45:55am

re: #800 Geepers Hey Geeps! I HATE to disagree with you, but I do think he is a master debater. How else to explain his constant outpouring of...well, ya know.
OTOH, he's getting closer to the truth - actually circling it now. Who knows, someday maybe he'll be on target!
Never give up hope!

806 Geepers  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:46:16am

Da_Beerfreak (#767),

Hey!
I want to nominate that phrase "6/15er" for inclusion the LGF dictionary.
// {;-)™

Here.

I've used it before so this one won't be the earliest usage.

807 Sgt.Slappy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:47:20am

re: #800 Geepers

Very concise, and very well done rebuttal. I was only seeking to annoy the Cognito. You (should) have humbled the Cognito. I stand in the shadow of your greatness.

808 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:52:47am

re: #806 Geepers Um, sorry to be quite so stupid this afternoon, but what does "6/15er" mean?

809 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:53:34am

So much sound and fury, as the man said.

810 Da_Beerfreak  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:54:33am

re: #806 Geepers

Thanks for the link.

811 Da_Beerfreak  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:58:14am

re: #808 realwest

June 15, 2004
The first day of registration. It's one way to spot the fossils around here.
//{;-)™

812 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:07:32am

re: #811 Da_Beerfreak Ah, and me, older than dirt and here before then and I couldn't remember place it!

813 Render  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:17:37am

Coggy...

If you're trying to go somewhere else with this, you should probably just get to the point with it...

Because something tells me that the contractors, or mercenaries as you chose to call them at least once, are just a tool for you to make a different point altogether.

EH?,
R

814 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:35:27am

re: #813 Render

Coggy...

If you're trying to go somewhere else with this, you should probably just get to the point with it...

Because something tells me that the contractors, or mercenaries as you chose to call them at least once, are just a tool for you to make a different point altogether.

EH?,
R

My very simple point is entirely contained in my first post on the subject:

Some contractors are good guys, who previously volunteered to serve their countries with tremendous dignity. And some are messed-up people who deserve prosecution.

It's like any other business: A mixed bag

And I've never called them 'mercenaries,' thanks. Only others have.

815 Render  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:17:31pm

re: #814 Cognito

Yup, that's the point I thought you were working on.

Blackwater is not Aegis (the convoy videos released by disgruntled ex-employees), is not Zapata Engineering (the noobs that fired in the general direction of US Marines), is not a whole host of similar companies that do the exact same kind of work.

By the same token that AP/AFP/Reuters is not the NYSlimes or WashPoo or Ballmore Sun or LASlimes.

uh-huh, waitasec here...

The case of the Zapata independent contractors being mistakenly labeled as Blackwater employees by at least one press report is a case in point. The press got it wrong, and as near as I can tell, has never issued a correction. You got that wrong in your first couple of comments on the matter.

You yourself seemed to imply that Blackwater was being held accountable, not just for the convoy incident, but for every single other contractor incident that has occurred within Iraq.

And that would appear to be exactly what has happened - Blackwater is being held accountable, by the Shia led Iraqi government and members of the Western press corps, for the incidents of Aegis and Zapata.

Those who control and/or support the Shia death squads would really like to see all of the security contractors removed from Iraq. It would make their death squad jobs a lot easier.

===

My apologies, it was the non-Iraqi terrorists operating within Iraq that you called mercenaries. (Totten: Hell is Over thread, post #487).

Yet by that definition, all soldiers, in all armies, who collect a paycheck can also be called mercenaries. When the reality is they're just guys doing a really nasty job, for fairly low pay, that really needs to be done. Because there are things like death squads and terrorists out there, that must be defended against.

So that the rest of us can blather on about meaningless platitudes online...

33 1/3,
R

816 Render  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:12:03pm

re: #815 Render

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

RIDE
HARD,
R

817 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:38:13pm

Render,

All good points, well received.

You may be right that Blackwater is being unfairly held accountable for the sins of all contractors; that said, B'water is juggling a number of allegations all their own, right now, from shooting civilians to exporting/importing illegal weapons that ended up in the hands of terrorists.

I can't say whether all those allegations are true or not -- against Blackwater, Zapata, Aegis or others -- but I also won't feign surprise when the Iraqi citizenry gets ticked off, because the Marines themselves aren't a big fan of (at least some) contractors.

Like I said, a mixed bag.

818 spam spam spam spam  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:21:56pm

re: #2 mikeysdca

Oh no, they were Tibetan Buddhists.

How original.

819 spam spam spam spam  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:22:47pm

re: #14 toni_in_ny

I asked Fischvogt the ethnicity of the two passengers who were arrested: “one report says ‘of Middle Eastern descent’ but I personally can not confirm that,” she said
NO Really? I woulda thought it was those Episcopalians again.

How original.

820 spam spam spam spam  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:23:26pm

re: #24 Abu Maven

Probably just Zionists trying to make Islam look bad.

How original.

821 spam spam spam spam  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:24:51pm

re: #81 mikulla

Pro-life Christians?

How original.

822 spam spam spam spam  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:27:28pm

re: #78 Yankee Division Son

Yakutat tlingit eskimos causing trouble again?

/

How original.

823 threeCents  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:28:52pm

re: #43 Vinegar Joe

...and nuns by hijabed, female TSA agents!

824 spam spam spam spam  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:29:09pm

re: #171 The Other Les

Minnesota Lutherans

/obligatory

How original.

825 spam spam spam spam  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:37:12pm

re: #439 storagemanager

re: #434 Cap'n DOC

gulf coast pundit...where the people Charles banned here...go and rage about LGF.

If you've seen the banjo & squeal like a pig scenes from "Deliverance", you've experienced Gulf Coast Pundit. Think singlewide trailers with '77 Camaros on blocks. Home of seceret service fantasies & the True Believers.

826 Xango Annie  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:27:09pm

Happy to see that the ever loverly Miz Garafolo is looking as stunning as ever.
It's somehow comforting that she has chosen butt ugly tats that are only going to look more hideous with age...

827 SunCat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:28:38pm
“Wait a minute,” I asked, “The passengers were stuck inside the plane with two bad guys for 45 minutes before law enforcement boarded the aircraft?” I wanted to make sure I heard Fischvogt correctly.

“Yes,” Fischvogt confirmed.


Thanks a lot, idiots from Federal law enforcement. You've just informed the terrorists that they have a 45 minute window of opportunity.

Coin Check!

828 U.S. 395  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 2:16:16am

re: #243 Killian Bundy

re: #232 Corpsman Mom

Well, IMO, Hwy 395 is a GCP nic. I'll leave it to Charles to sort it out.

/please notice that it abruptly dropped in, claiming a desire for late night edification, made a huge fuss, and then promptly ran away with no intention of defending itself


--
Killian Bundy,

Seeing as you decided to attack the messenger after I went to sleep, I will now calmly and factually set the record straight regarding your misunderstanding of the motives behind my requests to Charles for late-night clarification of just what the heck was going on upthread. This will be my last comment on the subject, as it makes my point for the second time, and there's no need for a third.

First, you opine that U.S. 395 is an LGF nic, not a GCP nic as you say. Your surmise is false. I say your wife is a chuckwalla. Our statements carry equal weight. What prompted me to comment on the arguing going on early in this thread was that first you changed Sharmuta's nic in your responses to "imadhimmi," and then to "w-lover." This seemed like a deliberate provocation, personally insulting if incorrect. I really was responding to all parties in the tiresome argument, but I addressed my comment to you due to this and to another reason listed below.

Now tonight I see in your response (that you made after I went to bed) that you changed my nic to Hwy 395. The latter seems like an honest mistake, but the previous two nic changes for the other posters seemed intentional on your part. Given that I was tired of the constant fighting, maybe you can see how it looked like to me you were the one intentionally trying to provoke other posters by calling them sock puppets. Just now, when I revisited this thread for the first time, I saw that you called ME a sock puppet. I am just me.

As you said, let Charles sort it out. That's exactly what I asked him to do when I reported the comments last night, instead of expanding the thread-derailing argument that was already nicely burning. And if you will consider for a moment, I named four other posters as possible parties to some secret fight. I also declared that I did not know the rights and wrongs of it, and did not care to try to sort it out, especially with all the code language being used.

If you felt I singled you out, it's because of your choice not to respond to other posters by their screen names, and because you stated absolutely that it was not posters from GCP dinging down comments. Basic logic dictates that if Killian Bundy states an absolute, he/she either KNOWS the absolute (which means that you knew who is actually doing it, or have incontrovertible evidence that the "dingbats" were not coming from GCP - doubtful you would have this information unless you run GCP), or that you were simply blowing smoke on LGF, which behavior could be considered by some a first cousin to lying.

If it was just bluster, had you not been so definitive, I would not have responded. The running battles with Cognito, Sharmuta, High Rise and Noam Sayin' have just struck me as so boring and detrimental to quality discussion, said arguments which seem to recur regularly. You recall how unpleasant LGF became last year until Charles chucked some of the horses overboard to save water.

As far as my leaving (not "running away"), I stated my reason at the time, AND on Tuesday night when the same tired argument led me to go watch "House" on TIVO. I was tired of schoolyard pissing matches. Unstated was that it also was late at night and I was tired, I had washed my hands of it by reporting the mess to Charles, and I was done with the thread. I saw no point in staying up late to argue with you about some 3-D chess vendetta that apparently was in play.

829 U.S. 395  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 2:17:47am

I wish neither you nor the other posters ill will. Just asking for more civility.
You could make a good-faith start by not calling me "it."
If you would like to have the last word, I don't mind.
Thank you, U.S. 395

830 U.S. 395  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 3:34:36am

Re: my #828

Well, caught my mistake just before I hit the hay. Had changed the syntax without reversing the position of the acronyms.
Below is what I said in #828:


--


Killian Bundy,
First, you opine that U.S. 395 is an LGF nic, not
a GCP nic as you say. Your surmise is false. I say your wife is a chuckwalla.
Our statements carry equal weight.


---
To fix this I need to reverse, of course, the acronyms, "LGF" and "GCP."

/left myself wide open for accusations of Freudian slip, I know.

It should read:


--
Killian Bundy,
First, you opine that U.S. 395 is an GCP nic, not
an LGF nic. Your surmise is false. I say your wife is a chuckwalla.
Our statements carry equal weight.


-0---
Good night.

I don't know the rights and wrongs of this. Just called out certain behaviors by an entire group that seemed designed to provoke. If Killian Bundy is our knight in shining armor, I apologize. And chuckwallas are actually pretty cool.

Let Charles sort it out.


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