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Homeland Absurdity

Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 11:38:56 am PDT

At Detroit Metro Airport:

(Hat tip: LGF readers.)

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1 Eri  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:39:41am

Hahahaha

2 ThinkRed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:40:29am

Nun's have been known to be armed with rulers.

3 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:41:22am

Take your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ape!

4 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:41:57am

The rise of militant Christianity, raging nun wing.

5 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:41:59am

I would like to see the nun smack that guy across the knuckes with a ruler.


LOL

6 FrogMarch  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:42:30am

As a nation, we're f*cked.

7 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:42:53am

Oh, I feel so much safer. Don't you?

8 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:43:01am

re: #5 NJDhockeyfan

I would like to see the nun smack that guy across the knuckes with a ruler.


LOL

I could be wrong but i think that guy is a gal-but your point is still right on.

9 POL_CAT12  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:43:03am

There we go, but for the (dis)Grace of TSA...

10 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:43:40am

On the upside, the American flag is still up at the airport, though I'm sure the ACLU is working on that.

11 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:43:42am

re: #6 FrogMarch

As a nation, we're f*cked.

Been saying that for a long time.

12 Charles  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:44:23am

In case it's not clear, that is a Muslim TSA agent wearing a hijab.

13 Shug  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:44:26am

charles,
I want to send you a picture mail that I took at the Starbucks yesterday in Dearborn ( from my cell phone camera )

kind of goes along with the pic here of our local airport

Is this america ?

14 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:44:27am

Why the hell is a Muslim working there in the first place?

15 jcm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:44:32am

There is a long history of Nun's hijacking airplanes, bombing civilians, and beheading people of course they should be searched.
/

16 ibrodsky  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:44:34am

Didn't all the nuns who worked at the WTC stay home on 9/11?

17 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:44:47am

re: #8 Nevergiveup

re: #5 NJDhockeyfan


I would like to see the nun smack that guy across the knuckes with a ruler.


LOL


I could be wrong but i think that guy is a gal-but your point is still right on.


Hard to tell with the costume and all.

18 Conserve Liberty  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:44:48am

Is that TSA screener wearing a head scarf? The irony would be too sweet, but I can't really tell from the photo.

19 wanderer  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:44:52am

Remember Christain fanatics are the real danger to our security and nation. The left's PC gone mad! Let's strip search the terrorist nun. The other woman is of the ROP. Ask any moonbat .

20 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:45:12am

Did they sign up for TSA jobs after 9/11/01 en masse?

21 pegcity  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:45:18am

im sure you will see muslim hijabed woman patting down nuns very soon.

22 Confuzed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:45:36am

This should be posted worldwide to show the absurdity of PC.
A female Muslim patting down a nun.
Would a non-Muslim female be allowed to pat down a female Muslim in public?

23 Charles  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:45:41am

re: #18 Conserve Liberty

Is that TSA screener wearing a head scarf? The irony would be too sweet, but I can't really tell from the photo.

Yes.

24 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:45:43am

Utter nun-sense.

/Someone had to go there

25 capitalist piglet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:45:51am

Wearing a hijab. Nice. Sheesh.

26 bikermailman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:46:04am

Nuns, little old ladies with walkers and O2 tanks, six year olds, yeah, check them out...the 29 year old male ME male, beard, praying in Arabic? Come right on through, good sir, have a good flight?

27 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:46:10am

As if we needed another reason to snatch that slimy PoS Ahmadinejad and reroute him to Club Gitmo.

Iran Arming the Taliban, Admiral Says

28 PISSED  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:46:15am

TSA " Have you got any weapons"

Sister " Nun"

sorry had to add that ; )

I agree with the statement " as a nation we are fucked" I agree

29 ibrodsky  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:46:19am

re: #12 Charles

In case it's not clear, that is a Muslim TSA agent wearing a hijab.

She couldn't find an orthodox Jew to frisk.

30 Blackacre  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:46:21am

At Detriot Metro Airport . . . I wonder how many other black-clad gals get the sister's treatment.

31 Conserve Liberty  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:46:38am

re: #18 Conserve Liberty

Is that TSA screener wearing a head scarf? The irony would be too sweet, but I can't really tell from the photo.

re: #18 Conserve Liberty

Is that TSA screener wearing a head scarf? The irony would be too sweet, but I can't really tell from the photo.

Charles beat me (#12)

32 Shug  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:46:43am

re: #13 Shug

charles,
I want to send you a picture mail that I took at the Starbucks yesterday in Dearborn ( from my cell phone camera )

kind of goes along with the pic here of our local airport

Is this america ?

Looking for the e-mail link.

can anybody help me out?

33 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:46:57am

EC Marm posted a version with tweaked contrast earlier, it come out a bit clearer.

34 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:47:05am

So is this the dreaded backlash from the Pope's remarks?

35 Caliredst8r  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:47:07am

re: #16 ibrodsky


Don't know about that, but apparently the Nun in the photo was overheard making a pro-life statement.

36 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:47:18am

I remember getting 2nd-level security screened at Detroit by a Muslim with a Hijab.

It pretty much summed everything up that's wrong with the TSA to me, until I saw this picture.

Anyway, I was inches from asking a supervisor "can I not get screened by a Muslim?," but thought that the potential ensuing problem might cause me to miss my flight.

37 nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:47:26am

re: #12 Charles

In case it's not clear, that is a Muslim TSA agent wearing a hijab.

Now now--we can't stereotype and profile here--no no!
Just because that person is wearing a hijab?

38 lifeofthemind  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:47:56am

One question here. Are the evil maniacs who have used women and children to conceal their weapons of death capable of using a nun's habit to hide a bomb belt? Since the answer is yes then we have to treat the threat seriously and not carve out special exemptions for any race, class, costume or condition. Remember in "The Battle of Algiers" when the French searched all the traditionally dressed women but let the bombs go by with girls dressed as if they were assimilated?

39 livefreeor die  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:47:57am

I think I'd rather fly out of the airport where the nun was frisking the hijabed TSA worker.

40 jOjOEofArcadia  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:48:19am

This is nothing less than the fruits of moral equivalence run amuck.
/no sarc

41 jcm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:48:46am

My favorite TSA moment.

TSA wants to take pointy metal object from passenger.
Passenger was Joe Foss.
The pointy metal thingy?
Foss' Medal of Honor.

42 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:48:49am

re: #27 JammieWearingFool

As if we needed another reason to snatch that slimy PoS Ahmadinejad and reroute him to Club Gitmo.

Iran Arming the Taliban, Admiral Says

They just got caught red handed.

HERAT, Afghanistan (AFP) - Afghan authorities said they had seized dozens of Iranian and Chinese-made weapons after a brief battle Saturday with Taliban fighters near the border with Iran.

The weapons found in the western province of Herat included about 40 mines and rocket-propelled grenades, the government's intelligence agency said in a statement.

They were found in a vehicle that Taliban fighters abandoned following an exchange of fire in the province's Ghoryan district on the Iranian border, it said.

"The weapons were seized after Taliban escaped and left one of their vehicles behind with the weapons," it said.

43 opnion  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:48:58am

This shows you how much we are not serious people.
If you click on that picture you will be treated with the knowledge that the TSA agent is Ta Da! a Muslim.
Thats right the logic has become so inverted that Muslims can be the frisker's & Little old nuns the friskees.
Wonder if the confiscated her rosary beads, you know because they do not conform with standard issue prayer beads.
Jut when you thought that it couldn't get any nuckin futtier

44 nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:49:18am

re: #40 jOjOEofArcadia

This is nothing less than the fruits of moral equivalence run amuck.
/no sarc

or run by a smuck.

45 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:49:25am

Also note, the wheelchair in the lower right is most likely for the nun.

46 Live4Truth  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:49:59am

re: #12 Charles

In case it's not clear, that is a Muslim TSA agent wearing a hijab.

Wow, no, I didn't catch that. I presumed it was a black woman.

Deciding whether to laugh or cry now...

47 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:50:12am

re: #42 NJDhockeyfan

Thnaks. Most interesting.

48 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:50:13am

re: #38 lifeofthemind

One question here. Are the evil maniacs who have used women and children to conceal their weapons of death capable of using a nun's habit to hide a bomb belt? Since the answer is yes then we have to treat the threat seriously and not carve out special exemptions for any race, class, costume or condition. Remember in "The Battle of Algiers" when the French searched all the traditionally dressed women but let the bombs go by with girls dressed as if they were assimilated?

Yeah, but that don't need to have a Muslim doing the search.

49 ibrodsky  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:50:26am

re: #35 Caliredst8r

re: #16 ibrodsky

Don't know about that, but apparently the Nun in the photo was overheard making a pro-life statement.

In that case, the nun was showing disrespect for Islam. Pro-life statements hurt their feelings.

50 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:51:17am

re: #47 JammieWearingFool

Connecting the dots is getting easier.

51 Carol Herman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:51:17am

Why is there a wheelchair in the picture?

Was the nun in a wheelchair? And, the woman, pictured, paying attention and at the edge of her seat? Was she pushing the wheelchair?

How sad is that?

Not easy working for our government in Homeland Security.

But we live in a world, when something's NOT obvious; it can still produce UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES.

Oh, boy. The more people who see this disgraceful action, don't automatically think "wow, the nun could be hiding a bomb."

I think Homeland Security, RIGHTFULLY takes the hit!

Shows ya, we need to clean out government.

52 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:51:22am

re: #38 lifeofthemind

To me, the problem is not searching a nun. It is allowing a Muslim to work at TSA.

53 ibrodsky  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:52:36am

re: #52 MandyManners

re: #38 lifeofthemind

To me, the problem is not searching a nun. It is allowing a Muslim to work at TSA.

Six of one, a half-dozen of the other.

54 nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:53:17am

Did the TSA agent get a full body search including her hear covering before going on duty in a secure area?

55 lifeofthemind  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:53:47am

re: #48 BeerForMyHorses

re: #38 lifeofthemind


One question here. Are the evil maniacs who have used women and children to conceal their weapons of death capable of using a nun's habit to hide a bomb belt? Since the answer is yes then we have to treat the threat seriously and not carve out special exemptions for any race, class, costume or condition. Remember in "The Battle of Algiers" when the French searched all the traditionally dressed women but let the bombs go by with girls dressed as if they were assimilated?

Yeah, but that don't need to have a Muslim doing the search.

No, we don't use religion to bar people in America but we do need to have real background checks and enforce rules on courteous and professional demeanor that given the conditions of government service are frequently not enforced in the work place.

56 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:53:51am

Bet the Muslim TSA worker let a bunch of praying imams and burka babes on board without a second glance.

57 NoKoolAidForMe  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:54:20am

Those Christians are causing trouble again. Throw them to the lions.
The TSA really needs to look out for elderly nuns brandishing canes. They're nothing but a threat.

58 Berlinsun  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:54:33am

Send out the holy hand grenade.

59 LaMano  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:54:39am

Dare I say ... going where no man has gone before ...

60 americanpundit  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:54:52am

You know, Charles, we simply can't be too careful with all of those suicide-bombing nuns running around.

61 rawmuse  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:55:05am

I have a prejudice towards any person that wears a mask over their face, due to negative past associations. To me, they are all called "bandits". No one that resembles a bandit gets to frisk me. I'll walk first.

62 Carol Herman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:55:08am

re: #41 jcm

My favorite TSA moment.

TSA wants to take pointy metal object from passenger.
Passenger was Joe Foss.
The pointy metal thingy?
Foss' Medal of Honor.

Let me repeat what I've said: Homeland Security has NOT made the sale to the American public, that they even begin to know what they're doing.

They wouldn't even cut the mustard as bathroom attendants.

63 jOjOEofArcadia  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:55:38am

re: #44 nevergiveup

re: #40 jOjOEofArcadia


This is nothing less than the fruits of moral equivalence run amuck.
/no sarc

or run by a smuck.

I'm certainly grateful that you didn't utilize the word "schmuck" in this scenario.

64 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:55:42am

re: #55 lifeofthemind

You need to study Islam more carefully. Read anything by Robert Spencer. Visit Jihad Watch.

65 LaMano  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:55:57am

A new oxymoron:

Muslim security agent

66 Maximu§  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:55:58am

My God, I never thought Id see the day...

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

67 Jon Carry  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:56:01am

There was a burka clad female TSA worker at Philly's airport back in 2005. She doesn't even say anything, just sort of holds out her paw demanding to see your ticket. Creepy, sick weirdo.

68 JeepThang  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:56:53am

Does the Airport screener look like shes wearing a scarf on her head? Maybe that would explain why a nun is singled out for extra checking.

Free teh penguins!

69 Maximu§  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:56:54am

re: #26 bikermailman

Nuns, little old ladies with walkers and O2 tanks, six year olds, yeah, check them out...the 29 year old male ME male, beard, praying in Arabic? Come right on through, good sir, have a good flight?


Thanks for clearly putting my thoughts into words.

70 zombie  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:56:55am

Any LGF Dictionary editors here?

Are any of you currently editing the dictionary?

Because something screwy happened and I just lost hours of work.

What the hell is going on?

I suspect that someone copied the entire code, made one change, and then pasted it all back in. Then the updates I made in the interin were overwritten. Either that, or...what?

Help!

71 nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:57:09am

re: #63 jOjOEofArcadia

re: #44 nevergiveup

re: #40 jOjOEofArcadia


This is nothing less than the fruits of moral equivalence run amuck.
/no sarc


or run by a smuck.

I'm certainly grateful that you didn't utilize the word "schmuck" in this scenario.

spelling was never one of my best subjects in school-nor handwriting- that's why I became a Dr.

72 Egfrow  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:57:25am

re: #52 MandyManners

I travel allot. Muslim TSA and Airline Employees are very common in Chicago, Philadelphia, New York, and Atlanta airports. I do mean very common. head scarfs for women and Skull caps and beards for men. I've been either issued a ticket or searched by Muslims 1 out of 4 times. I've made over 130 flights in the past 12 months.

73 abolitionist  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:57:29am

re: #33 Killgore Trout

EC Marm posted a version with tweaked contrast earlier, it come out a bit clearer.

Post linky: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Pic linky: [Link: i89.photobucket.com...]

74 zombie  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:57:35am

interin = interim

PIMF

75 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:58:29am

re: #62 Carol Herman

They wouldn't even cut the mustard goat cheese as bathroom attendants.

There.

76 lifeofthemind  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:58:34am

re: #61 rawmuse

I have a prejudice towards any person that wears a mask over their face, due to negative past associations. To me, they are all called "bandits". No one that resembles a bandit gets to frisk me. I'll walk first.

Personally I'd think given the legacy of the KKK we should be able to get a law that passes constitutional muster banning all face covering with narrow exemptions for 1) medical necessity verified in a legal proceeding 2) theatrical work and 3) time limited events like Halloween.

77 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:59:05am

And now that I've thought it over a bit:

Yes, because of the threat, they do have to search everyone. You don't know if that's really a nun, etc.

We cannot, and should not, bar people from TSA jobs on the grounds of religion. But I hope there are SERIOUS background checks.

And, finally; yes, we DO have to "profile" in security screening. Sorry to passengers who "look Muslim/Arab", but that's the way it is.

78 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 11:59:21am

This photograph is indicative of this "feel good" security that Homeland has been running since 9/11. Instead of real security where we target suspicious people (or possibly groups) we target everyone with these PC BS measures. Don't you feel better?

79 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:00:09pm

re: #26 bikermailman

Nuns, little old ladies with walkers and O2 tanks, six year olds, yeah, check them out...the 29 year old male ME male, beard, praying in Arabic? Come right on through, good sir, have a good flight?

Based on what I hear from friends who look Arab, that is not exactly the case.

80 opnion  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:00:14pm

I know what is going through the nun's mind
"If I had Fatima here in my 6th grade class, I'd get that laundry off of her head.She would stand straight for the Pledge of Allegiance and oh, I'd rap her knuckles with my ruler.

81 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:00:59pm

re: #77 Occasional Reader

And now that I've thought it over a bit:

Yes, because of the threat, they do have to search everyone. You don't know if that's really a nun, etc.

We cannot, and should not, bar people from TSA jobs on the grounds of religion. But I hope there are SERIOUS background checks.

And, finally; yes, we DO have to "profile" in security screening. Sorry to passengers who "look Muslim/Arab", but that's the way it is.

That's all spot on, I think.

82 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:01:01pm

Strangely,

France might actually be the one to "get it" in regards to airport screening.

Recently, I remember a story showing up here on LGF, where dozens (maybe hundreds) of muslims were suddenly "let go" from their airport screening jobs, and were seething about it.

Now.. these may have been ones that ACTUALLY had extremist ties, and the French screening process may be worse than we realize, but it was encouraging nontheless.

Anyone else remember the story?

83 m  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:01:41pm

re: #32 Shug

charles @ littlegreenfoobtalls .com

84 jOjOEofArcadia  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:01:44pm

re: #71 nevergiveup

re: #63 jOjOEofArcadia


re: #44 nevergiveup

re: #40 jOjOEofArcadia

This is nothing less than the fruits of moral equivalence run amuck.
/no sarc

or run by a smuck.

I'm certainly grateful that you didn't utilize the word "schmuck" in this scenario.

spelling was never one of my best subjects in school-nor handwriting- that's why I became a Dr.

I wasn't making reference to your spelling. I actually thought you were rhyming [sp?]. My wife relates that "schmuck" is a put-down in Yiddish, but I am operating on second-hand knowledge, at best.

85 Carol Herman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:02:12pm

re: #5 NJDhockeyfan

It's not a guy! It's a muslim female wearing a burka head piece. But she's smart enough to let her face go uncovered.

Do you know what a man could do to her "by accident" ... if she tried this on a male passenger?

Okay. Sometimes, there a people who can't picture this. Try a full body body-slam. Give the guy about 50 pounds more, for average weight differences.

Yesterday, I saw a magnificent poster comment about [bigoted word]s, in general. And, he said (when they take on Israel), they're fighting those "above their weight class."

Oh, and the lady in the fabric helmet? Kneeling? What if the guy had experiences playing soccer? Just asking?

You'll notice the "garbed muslim" is not wearing the bottom part of her burka.

Do you know why? Because it would take the average male, about a second, to figure out how to "pin her" ... by accidentally stepping on her gown.

86 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:02:33pm

re: #77 Occasional Reader

And now that I've thought it over a bit:

Yes, because of the threat, they do have to search everyone. You don't know if that's really a nun, etc.

We cannot, and should not, bar people from TSA jobs on the grounds of religion. But I hope there are SERIOUS background checks.

And, finally; yes, we DO have to "profile" in security screening. Sorry to passengers who "look Muslim/Arab", but that's the way it is.

Sorry,

If your background has anything with "islam" in it, no screening job for you.

Remember, it's not a religion. It's a manual for killing kuffars.

87 nikis-knight  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:03:22pm

re: #22 Confuzed

This should be posted worldwide to show the absurdity of PC.
A female Muslim patting down a nun.
Would a non-Muslim female be allowed to pat down a female Muslim in public?


Except liberals don't see it as absurd. Looking through the comments at that sight, the people who thought it was silly were called racist and bigot.
People can't think straight, too much PC brainwashing.

88 Egfrow  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:03:31pm

re: #77 Occasional Reader

That's not always true anymore, women with babies get searched allot more lately than before. The middle eastern profile has been greatly expanded. The next attack will be perpetrated by not so obvious ethnicities. Our enemies adapt very quickly.

89 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:03:40pm

Terrorists Training in Rural America?

RED HOUSE, Va. - Islamic extremists in the United States have traditionally set up shop in big cities with large Muslim populations: places like New York City, Dearborn, Michigan and even Washington, DC. But one secretive group is doing just the opposite.

They call themselves Muslims of America. They've established compounds throughout the rural U.S. Members say they moved to the countryside to lead peaceful lives free of "Western decadence." But others say that doesn't tell the whole story.

"Certainly, when you're in a rural area it enables you to better escape from the prying eyes of law enforcement," said CBN News consultant David Gartenstein-Ross.


He says Muslims of America has close ties to a violent Pakistani group named Jamaat Al-Fuqra. Both groups are led by the same extremist cleric: Sheikh Mubarak Gilani.

"Sheikh Gilani is an extremist figure known to be very much involved in the jihads against India, also known to be very much anti-Semitic," Gartenstein-Ross said.

Gilani's images and messages are all over the Muslims of America Web site.

He founded the group during a visit to Brooklyn in 1980. Shoe bomber Richard Reid and Beltway sniper John Allen Muhammed are said to have been among his followers.

Gilani encouraged his U.S. pupils-mostly African Americans-to move to rural areas and establish Muslim communes. The group now has dozens of these communes nationwide.

"Al Fuqra has compounds from coast-to-coast.and what this indicates is they're going to areas where land is plentiful--where you can get land for relatively cheap prices," Gartenstein-Ross said.

CBN News visited the group's 45-acre site in Red House, Virginia - a town so small you can barely find it on a map. There are no traffic lights, and the only signs of industry are a pair of convenience stores. So when a street sign popped up named after a radical Pakistani sheikh-along with men and women dressed in traditional Islamic garb- the locals took notice.

Sheikh Gilani has been on U.S. intelligence agencies' radar for years. He's currently under investigation for possible ties to al-Qaeda. He also trained jihadists to fight against the Soviets in Afghanistan during the 1980s.

In addition, Gilani attended a 1993 jihadist conference in Sudan along with members of Hamas, Hezbollah and Osama bin Laden himself.

American journalist Daniel Pearl was on his way to interview Gilani in 2002 when he was murdered. The sheikh denies any involvement in Pearl's killing.

CBN News spoke to a former member of Muslims of America who wishes to remain anonymous. 'Mustafa' says Gilani runs the group from Lahore, Pakistan.

erica?

More at the link.

90 docremulac  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:03:49pm

I'm sure this picture gives liberals great joy. It's a demonstration of the power they wield to force absurdity on people. If liberals say 80 year old Christian nuns are just as likely to cause a terrorist attack as a 27 year old Saudi on a student visa, then that's the law of the land. The more absurd, the more it punctuates their un-restrained power.

Sickening.

91 Carol Herman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:03:51pm

re: #63 jOjOEofArcadia

re: #44 nevergiveup

re: #40 jOjOEofArcadia


This is nothing less than the fruits of moral equivalence run amuck.
/no sarc


or run by a smuck.

I'm certainly grateful that you didn't utilize the word "schmuck" in this scenario.

An "amok" delight.

Whatever happens? Ahead. If there's a need for citizen blow back?

92 jcm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:03:53pm

Caption for the Photo.

Why we are losing.

93 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:03:58pm

re: #86 astronmr20

Exactly.

94 LACO_Bolt_Fan  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:04:06pm

all the while the flying Imam wearing his jammies says to TSA...don't dare touch or unveil my wickedly ugly wife...or I will sue you.

Michigan is a lost state...like their football team...why don't they just secede and form the first Islamic Caliphate in northamerica?

95 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:04:16pm

Besides the obvious absurdity of searching an elderly nun who needs a wheelchair, if Muslims can get jobs at TSA, how hard would it be for a terror cell to plant a member or two at an airport, and then coordinate boarding a flight for hijacking when their inside people were working the screening?

96 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:04:23pm

re: #85 Carol Herman

re: #5 NJDhockeyfan

It's not a guy! It's a muslim female wearing a burka head piece. But she's smart enough to let her face go uncovered.

Do you know what a man could do to her "by accident" ... if she tried this on a male passenger?

Okay. Sometimes, there a people who can't picture this. Try a full body body-slam. Give the guy about 50 pounds more, for average weight differences.

Yesterday, I saw a magnificent poster comment about Muslims, in general. And, he said (when they take on Israel), they're fighting those "above their weight class."

Oh, and the lady in the fabric helmet? Kneeling? What if the guy had experiences playing soccer? Just asking?

You'll notice the "garbed muslim" is not wearing the bottom part of her burka.

Do you know why? Because it would take the average male, about a second, to figure out how to "pin her" ... by accidentally stepping on her gown.

I'm confused.

Are you saying a male passenger would try to beat her up?

Remember, female screeners pat down female passengers, and likewise for men.

97 Speegon  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:05:01pm

I would've searched her.

Think: How easy would it be to buy an accurate "nun costume" online? Seriously now, think about it for a second. If the terrorists ever learn that there is a specific group that we just don't search because we already know they're not a threat, don't you think they'll exploit that knowledge?

Sure it seems a little silly, but I'd rather frisk a nun than let "Walid the Nun look-alike" stroll right on board with a bomb under his habit.

98 Piglet-U93  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:05:47pm

re: #64 BeerForMyHorses

re: #55 lifeofthemind

You need to study Islam more carefully. Read anything by Robert Spencer. Visit Jihad Watch.

Those are good recommendations but if you really want to know Islam and Mohammad read Prophet of Doom (4 free).

99 rtheyserius  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:06:24pm

A Muslim TSA agent?

Somebody at the TSA is seriously insane.

FUBAR

100 Cognito  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:06:38pm

re: #85 Carol Herman

Try a full body body-slam. Give the guy about 50 pounds more, for average weight differences.

Yesterday, I saw a magnificent poster comment about Muslims, in general. And, he said (when they take on Israel), they're fighting those "above their weight class."

Oh, and the lady in the fabric helmet? Kneeling? What if the guy had experiences playing soccer? Just asking?

You'll notice the "garbed muslim" is not wearing the bottom part of her burka.

Do you know why? Because it would take the average male, about a second, to figure out how to "pin her" ... by accidentally stepping on her gown.

That's the finest Dwight Schrute parody I've ever read. Brilliant!

101 Egfrow  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:06:41pm

re: #78 Sharmuta

It has more to do with discrimination laws for government employees than it does with a public feel good campaign. Most of the TSA Muslims are women, especially in the NE USA because other Muslim women travelers. This is just my direct observation.

102 Gagdad Bob  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:07:11pm

Makes sense to me. They're just making sure it's not Sally Field.

103 Carol Herman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:07:16pm

re: #84 jOjOEofArcadia

You want a lesson in Yiddish?

A schmuck is a working penis.

A "putz" meanwhile, is one that's shrunken in. Like a turtle, hibernating. Or a man, born with a short appendage, and then it keeps this characteristic, instead of growing into adulthood.

104 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:07:23pm

re: #99 rtheyserius

A Muslim TSA agent?

Somebody at the TSA is seriously insane.

FUBAR

There are LOTS of them.

Male and female.

105 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:07:55pm

re: #100 Cognito

Ah...


you got me!


Love some Dwight Schrute.

106 nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:08:14pm

re: #84 jOjOEofArcadia

re: #71 nevergiveup

re: #63 jOjOEofArcadia


re: #44 nevergiveup


re: #40 jOjOEofArcadia

This is nothing less than the fruits of moral equivalence run amuck.
/no sarc


or run by a smuck.


I'm certainly grateful that you didn't utilize the word "schmuck" in this scenario.


spelling was never one of my best subjects in school-nor handwriting- that's why I became a Dr.

I wasn't making reference to your spelling. I actually thought you were rhyming [sp?]. My wife relates that "schmuck" is a put-down in Yiddish, but I am operating on second-hand knowledge, at best.

1) I was trying to rhyme your great original statement
2) Your wife is right
3) I am just trying to have fun till I can eat again--But I am drinking Jonny Walker blue on Ice--I believe the pope gives a special dispensation for Blue.

107 jcm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:08:21pm

Given many of the statements about Muslims duty to Islam consider the following scenario.

TSA screen picture, or one like her is approached by the local Imam. The Imam tells her she will be approached by a brother and she should cooperate with the brother. Within a few days a greets her and makes clear he is a muslim, he asks tells her is about to miss his flight and if she could quickly pass the bag.

How confident are we she would do her duty as a TSA agent, or would she do her Muslim duty as requested by the Imam.

108 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:08:57pm

re: #82 astronmr20

Strangely,

France might actually be the one to "get it" in regards to airport screening.

Recently, I remember a story showing up here on LGF, where dozens (maybe hundreds) of muslims were suddenly "let go" from their airport screening jobs, and were seething about it.

Now.. these may have been ones that ACTUALLY had extremist ties, and the French screening process may be worse than we realize, but it was encouraging nontheless.

Anyone else remember the story?

I remember the story!

109 debutaunt  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:09:11pm

Carry bacon on your person!re: #12 Charles

110 Piglet-U93  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:09:45pm

re: #107 jcm

You have to ask?

111 Egfrow  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:09:59pm

re: #39 livefreeor die

I think I'd rather fly out of the airport where the nun was frisking the hijabed TSA worker.

Take the Train that ain't gonna happen.

112 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:10:36pm

re: #109 debutaunt

Carry bacon on your person!re: #12 Charles

LOL...imagine the horror on their face when they reach into your pocket and remove a handful of bacon.

113 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:10:48pm

re: #89 NJDhockeyfan

Any relation to the outfit that has a compound in Hancock, NY?

114 Josephine  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:11:12pm

My first thought was, "Holy (something), that's just wrong."

My second was, "What do they do in Israel?"

I understand the point of the photo, and if the person doing the search wasn't a Muslim, it would still seem stupid to me (only less so).

Does anyone know if a nun in a habit would be physically manhandled like that in an airport in Israel? Or are our (North American) airports just doing it to be politically correct?

115 Maximu§  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:11:16pm

re: #97 Speegon

I would've searched her.

Think: How easy would it be to buy an accurate "nun costume" online? Seriously now, think about it for a second. If the terrorists ever learn that there is a specific group that we just don't search because we already know they're not a threat, don't you think they'll exploit that knowledge?

Sure it seems a little silly, but I'd rather frisk a nun than let "Walid the Nun look-alike" stroll right on board with a bomb under his habit.

Have you looked at the color of her skin or do you need glasses?

Obviously, she is a white Catholic Nun of European heritage, but you go ahead and search her if it makes you feel safer.

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

116 Carol Herman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:11:26pm

re: #96 astronmr20

At first, you referred to this woman screener "as a guy."

Nope.

And, men aren't allowed to play the games they'd play very well IF this muslim woman came over "to pat them down."

See? The reason it's not done is that the female screeners would be at risk.

And, all the men would say is "sorry ... I have big feet." (Didn't see your flesh, there.)

Fer shur, Michigan is not like Israel. And, screeners in Detroit are not like those at Ben Gurion. A whole other set of priorities.

117 nikis-knight  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:13:11pm
Think: How easy would it be to buy an accurate "nun costume" online? Seriously now, think about it for a second. If the terrorists ever learn that there is a specific group that we just don't search because we already know they're not a threat, don't you think they'll exploit that knowledge?

Well, don't announce "only Muslims will be screened", just have wisdom when conducting the "random searches."
It's like on King of the Hill (a cartoon, very conservative) when Hank was reported to DHS, the agent said something like, "Don't worry Mr Hill, we know what were looking for--not that we're looking for anything--and you're not it."

118 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:13:27pm

re: #113 JammieWearingFool

re: #89 NJDhockeyfan

Any relation to the outfit that has a compound in Hancock, NY?

I think I read somewhere there is a large network across the country where these compounds are all connected.

119 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:13:27pm

I offered this once already on another thread, but here goes -

Nuns who still wear 'habits' (which is what her 'dress' is called), often wear a large rosary attached to their belt, and it is often covered up by the front portion of what appears to be a poncho-like part of the habit.

Perhaps the nun walked through the gate and got dinged - for the rosary, which is often constructed of small chain and a large metal crucifix. Is it possible that the hijabed screener is holding a wand in her right hand, which is also not in view from this angle?

I guess what I am doing is offering something reasonable for an explanation for the pat-down, or whatever is taking place. I'm not a frequent flier.

120 Shr_Nfr  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:14:29pm

I rest my case about the MIT student. She was stupid and sophomoric, but then again I dare say most sophomores are sophomores.

121 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:15:27pm

re: #101 Egfrow

My comment was concerning the searchees, not the searchers.

122 mungagungadin  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:16:00pm

Are my eyes playing tricks? Is a person in a HEADSCARF frisking a NUN at an airport? IS THIS POSSIBLE?

123 bj  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:16:22pm

Sorry guys, whatever works for one, works for all, I don't care who or what the TSA agent is. I've been searched because of a last minute flight change which was not my fault. It was the airlines that scheduled me to take off from an airport in another part of the state because of their screw up. I don't care, rules are rules. I want to travel safely. Do we even know the reason this nun was searched?

124 Carol Herman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:17:13pm

re: #114 Josephine

My first thought was, "Holy (something), that's just wrong."

My second was, "What do they do in Israel?"

I
understand the point of the photo, and if the person doing the search
wasn't a Muslim, it would still seem stupid to me (only less so).

Does
anyone know if a nun in a habit would be physically manhandled like
that in an airport in Israel? Or are our (North American) airports just
doing it to be politically correct?

Israel uses REAL STANDARDS!

They look for eyeball recognition technology. And, they rarely mistake a nun, or any other passenger, for a terrorist.

We could do the same. (The money spent using American taxpayer money dwarfs what it costs the Israelis.) But there's still the training.

The [bigoted word]s? Might as well have them jumping through burning hoops, and calling "that" training; as just about anything else. What a waste of time!

Go ahead. Make a list. Think of the things you think gets done in Israel. And, compare it to Michigan's "dead last" status?

Muslims grow on the carcasses of dead cities.

Who killed those cities? Not terrorists. Just union goons. And, the idiots in management who thought their credentials were better than those of engineers.

Can't revive what's dead, though.

Japan's not returning our car industry any time soon.

As to the flying public? You mean the idiots at the FBI, and Homeland Security, think they've formed a long-lasting entity for themselves? Well. I think not.

But it's sickening to see this affirmative action crapola playing out. Because, we could have done better!

125 jcm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:17:16pm

Many airports don't have "random" searches, to keep things "fair" the search every x number. All one has to do is watch the pattern, when it's you're turn just drop a bag and let stuff spill out, be gracious and tell the person behind you to "go ahead."

El Al profiles based upon behaviors of passengers, there systems is very effective, and one we should be modeling.

126 nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:17:29pm

re: #114 Josephine

My first thought was, "Holy (something), that's just wrong."

My second was, "What do they do in Israel?"

I understand the point of the photo, and if the person doing the search wasn't a Muslim, it would still seem stupid to me (only less so).

Does anyone know if a nun in a habit would be physically manhandled like that in an airport in Israel? Or are our (North American) airports just doing it to be politically correct?

If you fly out of Israel or if you fly in on EL AL--the most important part of the security check has already occurred before you ever show up at that airport. They have a tremendous data base on file. They know who I am ( for better or worse ) in advance. They still check everyone extremely well but they already have an idea who they are looking for.

127 samsgran1948  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:18:15pm

re: #38 lifeofthemind

At the risk of being tarred, feathered and carried out on a rail, I was about to make that same exact point.

We know from reading the news that the jihadis are trying to convert and recruit non-Muslim-looking individuals to carry out suicide bombings. Do any of you doubt that Lynn Stewart (the one-eyed sheik's lawyer) would hesitate an instant to impersonate a nun to smuggle explosives or a weapon through a checkpoint?

On the other hand, yes, the picture has enough irony for a decade worth of iron supplements.

128 Egfrow  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:19:21pm

re: #121 Sharmuta

Oh, I'm not going to challenge you or the problems of Political Correctness. It is indeed out of hand.

Lawyers, slithering politicians, and agenda driven media have all ensured we will will collapse from within as a society.

129 lifeofthemind  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:19:49pm

The searching of Nuns is a non issue can we agree? It is not done to "feel good" but despite the desire to calm the public that it is done for real threat needs. The nature of the TSA staff and of non government employees given access to airport secure areas is another issue that does need to be addressed.

130 Nisse  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:21:05pm

Good thing they managed to find a woman to do the searching. She doesn't have to go wash her hands after she's done.

131 Shug  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:21:08pm

Perhaps this TSA guard mistook this Catholic Nun for a dangerous Amish Operative.
Her Amish recognition skills are sorely lacking, but her frisking technique is spot on !

/

132 Josephine  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:21:08pm

re: #107 jcm

This is interesting. The Aviation Nation lists some suspected and convicted Muslim terrorists who have worked at airports:

[Link: www.theaviationnation.com...]

133 Egfrow  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:21:29pm

The photo kinda looks like an apostate Muslim women on her knees is a begging forgiveness and confessing her sins.

134 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:21:32pm

The radical Catholic Nun's are just as bad as those ROP Imams
I can't sleep at night worrying about those Catholic suicide bombers running around this country without proper illegal wire-tapping surveillance.

135 Egfrow  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:22:02pm

re: #132 Josephine

I run into them all the time.

136 Confuzed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:22:46pm

Oh wait, Detroit is in Michigan.

Hamtramck, Michigan allows public calls to prayer in Arabic over public loud speakers, from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m., 5 times a day.

137 justamomof4  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:22:49pm

re: #12 Charles

No, Charles . ..it wasn't clear. I've gone from seething to explosive re: #114 Josephine

My first thought was, "Holy (something), that's just wrong."

My second was, "What do they do in Israel?"

I understand the point of the photo, and if the person doing the search wasn't a Muslim, it would still seem stupid to me (only less so).

Does anyone know if a nun in a habit would be physically manhandled like that in an airport in Israel? Or are our (North American) airports just doing it to be politically correct?

What do they do in Israel? They don't hire muslims as security agents at their airports.

138 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:23:19pm

re: #70 zombie

Any LGF Dictionary editors here?

Are any of you currently editing the dictionary?

Because something screwy happened and I just lost hours of work.

What the hell is going on?

I suspect that someone copied the entire code, made one change, and then pasted it all back in. Then the updates I made in the interin were overwritten. Either that, or...what?

Help!

I haven't Zombie, However this is why mongo thinks separate categories per word good. Also good for easy linkage to the one word you want...

:)

139 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:23:44pm

re: #133 Egfrow

he photo kinda looks like an apostate Muslim women on her knees is a begging forgiveness and confessing her sins.


That is Funny

140 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:25:04pm

Please forgive me in advance

141 LeftJustAintRight  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:26:51pm

Mo and a couple of Catholic priest did have one thing in common
I will not say it out loud tho

Please forgive me

142 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:27:09pm

re: #118 NJDhockeyfan

re: #113 JammieWearingFool


re: #89 NJDhockeyfan

Any relation to the outfit that has a compound in Hancock, NY?


I think I read somewhere there is a large network across the country where these compounds are all connected.

Here's a link to an article about that very issue.

143 DocMartyn  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:27:14pm

I know that some people will decry this, but this is what the security people should be doing.
In the ME terrorists have dressed as orthodox Jews, to infiltrate and then explode their bombs. If nuns get a pass, then they will send a sucide bomber dress as a nun.
I believe that a Arab woman was stopped in Israel with a domb desguised as an unborn baby.
With white, disaffected young people joining THE death-cult instead of more tradition left-wing death machines, Islamicist terrorist can look like anyone. Search everyone you can.

144 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:28:12pm

The folks in the article I linked are Muslims of America, too.

145 Josephine  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:28:25pm

re: #124 Carol Herman

"Israel uses REAL STANDARDS!"

Yes, and my understanding is that these standards require that security people use their powers of observation. As you said, it's all about the training.

Our airports (I'm in Canada) need to learn more from Israel.

146 RememberSekhmet?  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:29:12pm

Hey, nuns can be dangerous with those rulers. Here's a Homeland Security plan. Sic Sister Mary Agnes with one of those metal-edged rulers on the terrorists. They'd beg for mercy that is not the sister's to give!

147 Carol Herman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:29:43pm

re: #92 jcm

Caption for the Photo.

Why we are losing.

CAPTION FOR PHOTO: Kneeling before a nun makes you a Catholic.

148 mattm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:29:54pm

Let's stop thin nun and ignore the muslim behind her. we wouldn't want to offend anyone

/TSA off

149 Bunker Buster  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:32:00pm

All I can think of is the scene from Airplane 2, where airport security lets the heavily-armed mujahedeen types breeze through the metal detector unmolested, then proceed to take down a little old lady who sets off the buzzer. Not too far from the truth under current TSA policy, it seems...

150 Josephine  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:33:29pm

re: #126 nevergiveup

That's interesting; thanks.

151 Jonas Parker  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:34:46pm

After 8 years of education under the Sisters of Notre Dame in the 1950's, I can say with certainty that those nuns I had as teachers made any Islamofacist jihadi of today look like a Brownie Scout when it came to "tough"! Sister Mary Cresthantia would have ripped that screener's head off, no sword necessary...

152 jcm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:40:22pm

re: #145 Josephine

re: #124 Carol Herman

"Israel uses REAL STANDARDS!"

Yes, and my understanding is that these standards require that security people use their powers of observation. As you said, it's all about the training.

Our airports (I'm in Canada) need to learn more from Israel.

If we were serious we'd follow El Al's lead on security, instead we are putting makeup on a PC sow.

153 bernard  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:40:27pm

I would be outraged if I did'nt know that Osama Bin Laden has been known to hide under Nuns Skirts.

154 nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:41:17pm

re: #151 Jonas Parker

After 8 years of education under the Sisters of Notre Dame in the 1950's, I can say with certainty that those nuns I had as teachers made any Islamofacist jihadi of today look like a Brownie Scout when it came to "tough"! Sister Mary Cresthantia would have ripped that screener's head off, no sword necessary...

Just curious? Were those Sisters football fans? What would they think of ND team today?

155 Freedomforsome  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:41:19pm

I can only imagine what is going through this nun's mind as she stares down at the hijab.

WOW!

156 Son Of The Godfather  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:42:47pm

Clicking brings you to the Flickr page with comments.

Some commenters say we are "racist" for thinking there's anything unusual with the picture...

Is "Muslim" a race?

Read through some of the comments, and tell me some of those people aren't as dangerous as terrorists with their ignorance.

157 trip  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:42:52pm

The troops may be winning the war overseas, but we are surely losing it here! Allowing a muslim to "search" for weapons on a "obviously very dangerous" Nun, is about the most absurd stupid thing that I have ever seen. This country will not survive long under conditions like this. We are giving it away!

158 Josephine  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:43:10pm

re: #133 Egfrow

The photo kinda looks like an apostate Muslim women on her knees is a begging forgiveness and confessing her sins.

I like that idea.

159 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:45:28pm

What I want to know, is why are we having potential Jihadists as security personnel? I mean here, nobody in the police or military can even be openly religious, let alone wear any of that garbage.

160 lifeofthemind  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:45:49pm

Here is a TSA link about Behavior Detection (SPOT)
http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/bwi_story.shtm

161 Josephine  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:46:43pm

re: #135 Egfrow

I'm not sure I understand. Do you mean that you see people working at airports who look like potential terrorists? (Sorry if I'm being dense; I need a nap.)

162 marsouin  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:46:45pm

Now that muslim "civil rights" activists, along with the ACLU, have successfully charged discrimination, now we ALL are being profiled. Share the love.

163 varmint  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:46:52pm

Karen Armstrong used to be a nun. I'd be damn uncomfortable sitting on a plane with her.

164 msdixie  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:47:36pm

My son in law who is an engineer for a firm that works with aiports and travels all the time calls the TSA, etc. 'security theater' and says that it's a joke. He knows all the ways to get around carry-on rules as do all those who work in the airports.

Why don't we bring in El Al and follow their lead? Oh I forgot. It's the RoP and since political correctness rules, there's no need for real security.

/

165 nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:47:50pm

re: #152 jcm

re: #145 Josephine

re: #124 Carol Herman

"Israel uses REAL STANDARDS!"

Yes, and my understanding is that these standards require that security people use their powers of observation. As you said, it's all about the training.

Our airports (I'm in Canada) need to learn more from Israel.

If we were serious we'd follow El Al's lead on security, instead we are putting makeup on a PC sow.

Let me sum up Israeli Security Standards:
1) Do ALL possible to prevent plane from being blown up, hyjacked, or used
as weapon of mass destruction!
2) Share all imformation from whatever source, regardless of anyones civil
liberties to prevent violation of Standard 1.
3) All debate about profiling, civil liberties, and anything else---see #1.

166 saintarctangent  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:47:51pm

This is nothing more than religious profiling! Can't fly while Catholic anyone? Can't she sue like the non-flying imams did? Any John Does that might have instigated this whole thing?

Geez, I can't imagine how the hajibed one got a job at TSA - can you? I'm sure it had nothing to do with quotas, or anything. In the middle east, she'd be stoned for working!

I bet it gives her quite a feeling of satisfaction humiliating the nun like that.

I wish I could get some muslim TSA screener on her knees in front of me - I'm sure I could say a few things under my breath that'd make her pay at least a little bit for the satisfaction she gains from searching a non-muslim! Only problem is that males only get male screeners - bummer!

167 demanian  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:48:12pm

A Muslim hijab-wearing female is wanding a nun! How did America get to this level of PC absurdity? I sincerely hope this pic is a hoax/fake. If it is not, we are doomed.

168 Blue Chip  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:48:18pm

Like scary stories?

2007: At the Detroit Metro Airport, a Christian Nun is searched by a hijab wearing TSA agent.

Like Horror stories?

2009 Dearborn Michigan legalizes Sharia Family Courts for ‘Muslim family disputes’

2010 Wisconsin introduces ‘religious minority protection laws’

2011 Saudi Arabian businessmen purchase Time / AOL

2012 The ‘American Islamic Members’ (AIM) national political party is founded.

2013 Pepsi introduces ‘Jihad Cola’

2014 Typhoid and Cholera start to appear in several Northeastern States

2015 The State of California agrees to fund Muslim religious schools

2016 The UN officially denounces “capitalism”

2017 Al Jazeria buys Fox News

2018 The Muslim population of California increases to 39%, nationwide it’s 13%

2019 The Oscar for Best Picture of the Year is awarded to “Mohammad – Prophet of
Peace”. The actor playing Mohammad is never shown on screen or heard speaking.

2020 The American Islamic Members party nominates a candidate for President. Nationwide he receives 18% of the total votes

2021 In Seattle, ‘non Muslims’ are asked to ‘voluntarily relocate’ via eminent domain to other cities, thereby preserving the ‘religious privacy’ of Muslims

2022 The UN officially assumes international control of the Internet

2023 McDonald’s is sold to a private overseas investment group for $100 billion – and immediately renamed “Ronald Mohammad’s”.

2024 In California, Michigan and Wisconsin, martial rape is re-classified as a misdemeanor

2025 In several states, circumcision is officially banned – Female genital ‘reconstruction’ is officially instituted

2026 The Muslim population of California is 46%; nationwide it’s 32%

2027 Nationwide childhood mortality rates increase due to the resurgence of Polio, whopping cough, and rubella

2028 This winning Presidential Candidate is an avowed atheist; his running mate is a devout Muslim

2029 AM talk radio is labeled hate speech banned by the FCC

2030 A new cabinet post is named; Secretary of Science and Religious Theory

2031 The Supreme Judicial Court of California begins to incorporate sharia law into California State Statues

2032 The first Muslim is elected President of the United States

..con't...

169 Josephine  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:49:18pm

re: #137 justamomof4

re: #12 Charles

No, Charles . ..it wasn't clear. I've gone from seething to explosive re: #114 Josephine

My first thought was, "Holy (something), that's just wrong."

My second was, "What do they do in Israel?"

I understand the point of the photo, and if the person doing the search wasn't a Muslim, it would still seem stupid to me (only less so).

Does anyone know if a nun in a habit would be physically manhandled like that in an airport in Israel? Or are our (North American) airports just doing it to be politically correct?

What do they do in Israel? They don't hire muslims as security agents at their airports.

Did I say something wrong? I honestly didn't mean to upset anyone.

I didn't know that Israel doesn't hire Muslims to work in security at their airports.

170 Blue Chip  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:49:29pm

(con't from above...)


2033 Mohammad becomes the most popular name for newborn males

2034 Per new legislation, all Public schools are required to teach Islam as a ‘life path’

2035 In California, it is illegal for women to ride bicycles

2036 In the US, childhood immunization rates drop to under 31%

2037 Less the 100,000 Jews now live in California

2038 Dogs, horses and cattle are now classified as ‘weapons’ and must be registered with the Federal Gov’t.

2039 Mohammad’s birthday replaces President’s Day as a National Holiday

2040 Nationally, all restaurants must obey Islamic dietary restrictions - Citing ‘health concerns’, the sales of pork and pork products is prohibited in most states


2041 In most major cities, burquas outnumber baseball caps 5 to 1

2042 Mosques now outnumber libraries and public schools combined.

2043 The Amish, long a part of Pennsylvania, have disappeared.

2044 Most private interstate travel is prohibited or restricted

2045 A 35 year-old gay man in Madison Wisconsin is convicted and executed for ‘homosexuality’ by a local Sharia Court. No group publicly objects.

2046 The 2nd, 4th and 7th amendments to the constitution are ‘temporary revoked’

2047 The literacy rate drops to under 67% in the United States

2048 The city of Las Vegas is closed, emptied of its valuables and burned to the ground.

2049 The United States no longer produces enough food to feed itself.

2050 The US Constitution is amended to incorporate the principals of Sharia Law

2051 The 50th Anniversary of 9/11 and most people under the age of 60 can’t identify the locations, events or groups involved in that now forgotten day.

2052 No Jews can be located in California, New York, or Florida.

2053 Slavery is considered a legitimate business practice

2054 Baseball and Football, long ignored by the public, are quietly banned.

2055 The literacy rate is under 50%, - Average life span is 53. 3 years for women

2056 Women in most major cities are subject to inspections by the morality police

2057 Yankee’s Stadium is renamed “Allah’s Palace”

2058 Formal education now stops at 6th grade: all higher education consists of religious training

2059 Due to a lack of architects, engineers, physicists and scientists: the air line industry is dissolved, buildings higher than 4 stories are banned, all bridges are required to be made of wood, and the internet ceases to exist.

2060 The letter ‘T’ is banned

2061 The US approves an official language: Arabic

171 txlady  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:51:07pm

re: #42 NJDhockeyfan

With everything that we know Iran to be doing, how is it that our "leaders" have not declared Iran an enemy state?

If they did declare Iran as an enemy state, then couldn't MR. Ahma jini dad then be arrested and tried for crimes against humanity?

To comment on the picture above is a moot point. However, one action that one person may take is to go to their airport and see who the screeners are. If one find a similar TSA agent, then one can declare that one has no confidence that proper security is being provided. The left will tell you that they have validated the TSA agent and therefore he or she is good as gold.
Please, everyone, point them to this
“Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief, except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty.” Surah 16: 106
That is a quote from one of the books of their "Bible" the Quran. The book is full of moral relativism's just like that. They justify everything from that book. Please, read some of it if you all have not. It's the book of EVIL. And the line above is just one little bit. The book is filled with this garbage.
/ X2

172 bernard  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:53:39pm

Re-136 Confuzed
Do you think any Polish people still live in Hamtramck?

173 Josephine  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:53:43pm

re: #152 jcm

Thank you for the link; I will read the article.

174 baconeatingkaffir  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:54:28pm

re: #171 txlady

Now you know why Korans make good kindling.

175 Josephine  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:56:11pm

re: #160 lifeofthemind

Here is a TSA link about Behavior Detection (SPOT)
http://www.tsa.gov/press/happenings/bwi_ story.shtm

Thank you; that's interesting.

176 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:56:33pm

re: #170 Blue Chip

It is only scary because it is so realistic! Unfortunately.

177 Confuzed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:58:40pm

Would there be problems during a pat-down search if pages from a Koran were found in one's drawers (pants or panties)?

178 Josephine  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 12:58:57pm

re: #165 nevergiveup

Sounds good to me!

179 Confuzed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:04:14pm

Wearing pigskin leather pants while traveling is sounding better by the minute.

180 kafir  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:05:43pm

re: #23 Charles

I have been pointing out for years Charles, that we are screened at DTW by guys named Mohammed, and hijab wearing women.

Screening a nun looks ludicrous on the surface, but remember, in Israel, arabs regularly dress as Haredi in order to get jews to let down their defenses, bring them into their fold, so the arabs can do their evil.

I am waiting to hear from the catholic church on this. Flying nuns scandal is coming.

The vatican council on american catholic relations is about to start suing.

/sarc

My question is one of loyalty. If mohammed or fatima find a member of the ummah with a bomba, are they gonna stoppa la bomba, or let the splodydope go boomba on the plane?

I have very little faith that they would stop a bomber.

This picture shows everyone what is wrong with being PC.

181 RobCon  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:06:08pm

Hey, no joke. I am a Catholic School veteran and nuns are danegerous.
I have the scars to prove it.

182 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:08:48pm

#12 Charles

Yes, I saw right away that the security guard was in a hijab. Boy, she must be tittering all the way home about how her men kin have turned our great nation upside down and made us all a laughing stock.

This is a case of "a picture paints a thousand words."

I really wish this photo would make the rounds in major newspapers. Yeah, I know, when pigs fly . . .

183 wanderer  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:16:23pm

As a nearly sixty-five year old male traveling from Los Angeles to Kansas City I got put throught the secondary security search as did my wife while a late twenties mohammed and his bagged women ahead of us walked through security without a wink. Ahead of my wife in the secondary search line they were doing a search on an eighty year old plus woman .
TSA searches are a pc joke nothing more. Fortunately the crews of the US airlines are considerably more astute and so far I haven't seen cabin crews stuffed with bagged employees yet.

184 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:21:32pm

For those who asked about security practices in the Israeli airport -- first of all, as someone said, they don't allow Muslims in that job. Secondly, I have never been patted down nor have I ever witnessed someone being patted down, but they do question you intensely about your past life, where you went to school, where you live, what it is traditional to do on Israeli holidays, where you studied Hebrew, etc. It's VERY intense questioning, every single time. Thirdly, Israeli is a Big Brother kind of country -- everything about you is on the computer so they already know all about you before you come through the ticket line. It is the safest airport in the world (bli aiyen ha'ara).

185 Thoughtful  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:21:39pm

Given that two Russian jets were taken down by women wearing explosives as fake pregnancies, and the flurry of male islamist attempt to escape wearing burkas, and the couple in Europe attempting to smuggle explosives on board an airline in their baby's bottle, and the baby was with them... need I go on?

Yeah, TSA does a lot of security theatre. Not sure this photo is part of it. The loose, layered smock and inherent social status of a nun is potential capability to carry on proscribed items. I'd guess a hand search is in order if the sister tripped any of the behavior tells or simply rang-the-bell on the metal detector.

Any "class" of passenger that has a defacto no-search status will rapidly be imitated by the bad guys, as the opening examples show. That's why AQ is particularly interested in white-skinned, blue-eyed converts.

I for one, make it a point to thank the TSA guy who wands me when I'm pulled out of the line. I know my intentions, and I'm the only one who possibly could.

Same applies to the good sister.

186 oh2be21  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:21:48pm

There should be some kind of photo I.D. issued by the church to identify those of the clergy. A couple of years ago a friend, having left an arm and leg in a rice paddy in Viet Nam and wearing metal prosthesis was pulled aside by TSA for screening. He is a retired military officer - plus a Lutheran minister, carrying identification from the military and the synod. They wanted him to remove his prothetics so they could examine the items! The lunacy never stops.

187 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:23:52pm

Oh, forgot to add: some time ago, TSA consulted with Israel on their airport security policies. An article was written about this in the Jerusalem Post. The Israelis point blank told the American TSA folks: PROFILE PEOPLE, NOT THINGS. But then, that would mean looking more closely at weak minded moonbats and guys named Achmed, and it's so much more politically correct to confiscate my freaking NAIL CLIPPERS.

188 crepuscular prick  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:25:54pm

Sister Mary Corporal Punishment, my second grade teacher would have punched her in the face. I remember how bad that hurts.

189 Josephine  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:26:12pm

re: #184 American Jewess In Jerusalem

Thank you very much. I didn't know this.

I have a Jewish cousin in England who's been to Israel but he's been offline for a while, so I can't ask him. (I need to buy another long-distance calling card.)

190 donna quixote  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:26:16pm

I guess I am a fascist but I don't think the Muslim woman should be working for TSA.

191 lifeofthemind  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:27:46pm

Now stop this, they dont ask anyone to remove prosthetics, they inspect them and if they alarm and they can't clear them then tough you don't fly, and they don't take nail clippers they take knives.

192 Outrider  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:28:15pm

re: #185 Thoughtful

Any "class" of passenger that has a defacto no-search status will rapidly be imitated by the bad guys, as the opening examples show. That's why AQ is particularly interested in white-skinned, blue-eyed converts.


This is a valid point and has been evidenced by the number of men around the world caught committing crimes or trying to evade capture while wearing a burka.

193 debee1015  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:28:19pm

Detroit Wayne County airport also has a "Religious Reflection Room" in the Northwest Wing of the airport.

Not surprising since Dearbornistan is right outside Detroit.

194 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:29:23pm

#185 Thoughtful

Thoughtful, I actually agree with you on this, but it still makes me angry. Here in Israel, Muslims dress up like Haredim all the time and that's how they get Jewish hitchhikers into their cars, etc. So yeah, we have to check everyone because as you say, once one group gets a certain no-check status, the Muslims will start immitating them. Sigh. But I am still disturbed greatly by this picture because it is such a distasteful visual commentary on the results of multiculturalism in America. How did it happen that we place our safety and well-being into the hands of a religious Muslim while a religious Catholic is under suspicion and "needs to be checked" ?

195 Josephine  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:31:39pm

re: #185 Thoughtful

Those are all good points.

They don't change my visceral reaction to the photo, however.

196 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:33:02pm

#191 lifeofthemind

What the hell are you talking about? They do too take nail clippers -- they confiscated a nice pair that I had gotten as a gift while at a conference. They said I could leave the security area to go to the airport post office and mail them to myself . . . When I tried to argue about the utter absurdity of that, they pointed to a box full of these nail clippers. Apparently they were catching everyone who had been to the conference.

I fly a lot and I have seen my share of stupid IDIOTS. Whenever a security agent is polite and USES HIS OR HER HEAD, I always say thank you and I never act huffy at them for doing their job. But I do lose my patience when my nail clippers and my lotion and my contact lens solution gets taken. That is just bullhickey.

197 reine.de.tout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:35:35pm
re: #194 American Jewess In Jerusalem

... How did it happen that we place our safety and well-being into the hands of a religious Muslim while a religious Catholic is under suspicion and "needs to be checked" ?

A very very sad state of affairs, indeed.

198 lifeofthemind  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:36:58pm

re: #196 American Jewess In Jerusalem

Bet they had a knife attached, even a small one. And if you know they will want you to check the lotion why not do it before you get to the security checkpoint? The jihadis delight in the fact that they get us to annoy and alienate our own citizens and supporters.

199 oh2be21  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:39:08pm

re: #191 lifeofthemind
That is absolutely true. They gave up when he told them they'd have to help him put the items back on because he was unable to do it by himself. He now refuses to fly and I don't blame him.

At one time at DFW there were huge containers of confiscated nail clippers/nail files/letter openers from briefcases. Ever wonder who had their pick of those items to take home?

200 Reluctant Democrat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:41:13pm

We are the laughing stock of the world. This photo says it all and tops off a week where we welcome a terrorist to our elite salons and call for free speech to be stifled so we don't offend him! I weep for the West.

201 Outrider  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:48:53pm

Wonder if the wheelchair parked right to the front is being used by the nun to get around the airport?

202 Gadfly  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:51:18pm

Surprised no Klansman has yet demanded its "right" to wear an open-faced hood on the job and claim its part of its religion.

203 uptight  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:56:11pm

a hijabi muslima in a uniform
with a gun
engaging in sly lesbianism
with a nun

Chuck in a rubber-clad vamp in a nazi outfit and it's a fetishists disneyland

204 TheBugMan1956  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:56:32pm

Will the last American leaving the country, please bring the flag...
Where is Harry S. Truman, when we need him?

205 wiggs  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 1:57:45pm

No. Way.

/sound of one jaw dropping

206 eff plus  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:01:46pm

re: #190 donna quixote

I guess I am a fascist but I don't think the Muslim woman should be working for TSA.

you're not a fascist, based on this remark - you're rational.

207 FreeRadical  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:02:05pm

Perhaps the most telling image in American history.

208 Egfrow  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:02:12pm

re: #161 Josephine

Not just look like but act like also. I've had more than a few hostile stare downs in airport terminals from scull cap bearded workers.

209 TS  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:04:21pm

I bet the Muslim enjoyed every second of this.

210 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:06:57pm

#198

Are you a Kos child? On my honor, I have never seen a pair of nail clippers with a "knife" attached. Anyone? Anyone?

Waiting.

And what is truly ridiculous is that we have allowed the Muslims to cause us such inconvenience, to the level of abject absurdity, that a mother cannot bring a juice box online for her child, or that I cannot have my saline solution (which means I have to wear my glasses whenever I fly -- something I don't think I should be FORCED to do).

PROFILE PEOPLE, NOT ITEMS.

When will we stop letting the moonbats of this country set the rules?

211 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:07:46pm

Ack, I mean "onboard" not "online." Why don't we have an edit feature?

212 TheHussar  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:08:09pm

The TSA in this instance was absolutely correct. El Al would have frisked the nuns. The fact is that shoe bomber Richard Reid was not an Arab and did not fit any particular profile. What would keep a terrorist from dressing up as a nun? And, finally, terrorists use mules, or unsuspecting people to carry bombs aboard for them. To that extent, there is no profile
for a terrorist and safety is more important than the loss of lives.

213 Gadfly  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:14:34pm

re: #212 TheHussar
e.g. Rachel Corie

214 oh2be21  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:15:18pm

re: #210 American Jewess In Jerusalem
Believe #198 means those little clippers with a fold out file. Heck, my house or car keys could do more damage than those things. Don't recall seeing one more than 1 inch or less. I'd best keep quiet on keys or TSA will start taking those tomorrow.

215 Spiny Norman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:18:20pm

re: #212 TheHussar

The TSA in this instance was absolutely correct. El Al would have frisked the nuns. The fact is that shoe bomber Richard Reid was not an Arab and did not fit any particular profile. What would keep a terrorist from dressing up as a nun? And, finally, terrorists use mules, or unsuspecting people to carry bombs aboard for them. To that extent, there is no profile for a terrorist and safety is more important than the loss of lives.

You are irony-impaired, aren't you?

What makes this scene absurd is the context: young men of Middle-Eastern appearance are not to be frisked or even questioned by TSA under threat of civil-rights lawsuit, at least according to Hamas front group CAIR and their tireless cheerleaders, the American Civil Liberties Union.

216 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:20:20pm

re: #184 American Jewess In Jerusalem

For those who asked about security practices in the Israeli airport -- first of all, as someone said, they don't allow Muslims in that job. Secondly, I have never been patted down nor have I ever witnessed someone being patted down, but they do question you intensely about your past life, where you went to school, where you live, what it is traditional to do on Israeli holidays, where you studied Hebrew, etc. It's VERY intense questioning, every single time. Thirdly, Israeli is a Big Brother kind of country -- everything about you is on the computer so they already know all about you before you come through the ticket line. It is the safest airport in the world (bli aiyen ha'ara).

I remember not to long ago booking a flight on EL AL and requesting the bulk head seat in Business Class- putting me real close to the cockpit. I was told it was full but after giving them my passport # etc, they called me back and said OK its yours. I actually never gave them my work number but of course they had it any way. I called my wife to tell her i guess they did not consider me a security risk--she pointed out that maybe in case of trouble they considered me expendable. My wife always puts things in perspective.

217 JohnRC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:27:22pm

TSA being a government agency is probably riddled with affirmative action. Those needing such favors come from backgrounds steeped in hatred and dysfunction thereby disabling them to understand subtelties and nuances. Their frame of reference is very limited. From day one they're born into that belief system. A good government job will habilitate them. Yea, right.

218 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:27:23pm

Reminds me of the news photograph , taken right after 911, when National Guardsmen where assigned to airports. Security Screener passing a Garrent wand over a National Guardsmen with his arms spred, (with me see far) while holding an M-16 by the sling in his right hand!

219 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:33:11pm

#216

LOL! Your wife is a funny woman. :-)

I love that they profile unashamedly and unapologetically in Israel. My husband looks Lebanese, though he is Ashkenazi, so he gets "profiled" all the time. When we first moved here, and encountered security lines everywhere, like the grocery store, mall, bus station, etc, I would breeze on through and he would be stopped every time. Once we were sitting at a bus station on a main street with our black overnight bag, as we were going to visit friends, and a police car pulled up and of all the people there, they motioned only to my husband to come over. He went over and said "Shalom" in his American mid-western drawl and before he even made it to the police car, they waved him away and drove off! They are so astute and can tell from your accent whether you are American, English, Australian, South African, etc. They can tell an Arab accent from a Hebrew accent in a split second, though this is something that I still have trouble with if an Arab is speaking Hebrew -- sometimes that is tough for me to discern. But I can hear the difference between Arabs speaking Arabic and Jews speaking Hebrew.

The police and security personnel at the airports are very well trained. Nothing gets by them. Now my husband has learned to speak and say something, like "how are you" or "shalom" before his turn and then they let him pass. I guess the first self-hating Jewish moonbat who straps a bomb to himself in solidarity with Muslims will put a stop to all that, but thankfully, we haven't had any so far (may we never see the day, please God.)

220 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:35:59pm

#219

I should clarify: everyone gets stopped technically speaking, and at places like the bus station, everyone has their handbags/luggage/backpacks searched. But at other security check locations, some people are waved on through quickly after a cursory check while others are searched more thoroughly. That is the distinction I was trying to make.

221 justamomof4  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:37:58pm

re: #169 Josephine

You said nothing inflamatory at all.

Personally, I find the image offensive & the TSA PC agenda suicidal. There are days I feel I've entered the Twilight Zone, and pray that at some point I can change the channel. Do you know what I mean?

In all honesty, I don't know for a fact that Israel doesn't hire muslims for airport security. IMHO, it would however be a justifiable policy, whether in Israel or the USA.

222 Speegon  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:39:33pm

re: #115 Maximu§

And we're supposed to pretend that no white people ever joined the Taliban or al Qaeda?

223 Victor  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:42:37pm

#38 lifeofthemind 9/22/07 11:47:56 am

"One question here. Are the evil maniacs who have used women and children to conceal their weapons of death capable of using a nun's habit to hide a bomb belt? Since the answer is yes then we have to treat the threat seriously and not carve out special exemptions for any race, class, costume or condition."

Since the answer is "yes", wouldn't it make far more sense to simply keep Islam, and Muslims, out of America?

224 WideAwake  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:42:45pm

I agree with others that have said this: The outrage is not that a nun was searched. It's that a member of the most crazy cult of all time is doing the searching.

I haven't flown since before 9/11 but can a passenger request a different screener without causing all sorts of problems? I mean, I wouldn't even get on a plane with this woman and now she's going to detemine if I'm safe or not?

225 justamomof4  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:43:06pm

re: #169 Josephine
PIMF . . .I just looked at my original comment at 137 . I thought I erased my comment to Charles. My reply to your comment at #114 was a 'run on' type of sentence that latched onto the comment I thought I erased earlier. Whooops. Sorry, I missed that.

Clicking heels together three times and repeating PIMF, PIMF, PIMF.

226 Nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:44:23pm

re: #219 American Jewess In Jerusalem

#216

LOL! Your wife is a funny woman. :-)

I love that they profile unashamedly and unapologetically in Israel. My husband looks Lebanese, though he is Ashkenazi, so he gets "profiled" all the time. When we first moved here, and encountered security lines everywhere, like the grocery store, mall, bus station, etc, I would breeze on through and he would be stopped every time. Once we were sitting at a bus station on a main street with our black overnight bag, as we were going to visit friends, and a police car pulled up and of all the people there, they motioned only to my husband to come over. He went over and said "Shalom" in his American mid-western drawl and before he even made it to the police car, they waved him away and drove off! They are so astute and can tell from your accent whether you are American, English, Australian, South African, etc. They can tell an Arab accent from a Hebrew accent in a split second, though this is something that I still have trouble with if an Arab is speaking Hebrew -- sometimes that is tough for me to discern. But I can hear the difference between Arabs speaking Arabic and Jews speaking Hebrew.

The police and security personnel at the airports are very well trained. Nothing gets by them. Now my husband has learned to speak and say something, like "how are you" or "shalom" before his turn and then they let him pass. I guess the first self-hating Jewish moonbat who straps a bomb to himself in solidarity with Muslims will put a stop to all that, but thankfully, we haven't had any so far (may we never see the day, please God.)

Myself and my entire family always feel safer in Israel in general than in the USA. It is difficult to explain that to people who have not been to Israel often. You do an real good job explaining.

227 mannyishere  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:45:36pm

Eh
I got no problems with this. Probably a little too aggressive (screening wise), but better to be safe than sorry.

228 WideAwake  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:47:20pm
#224 WideAwake 9/22/07 2:42:45 pm reply quote report 0
I agree with others that have said this: The outrage is not that a nun was searched. It's that a member of the most crazy cult of all time is doing the searching.

I haven't flown since before 9/11 but can a passenger request a different screener without causing all sorts of problems? I mean, I wouldn't even get on a plane with this woman and now she's going to detemine if I'm safe or not?

Duh... "determine"...

229 lectrikhed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:50:11pm

re: #13 Shug

Can you post the picture somewhere. I'm interested, especially since its Dearborn.

230 American Jewess In Jerusalem  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:52:18pm

#221 justamomof4

Justamom, I suppose I don't know that for a "fact" either but I'm fairly certain. I've never seen an Arab working in security. For one thing, it would place those Muslims in jeopardy, because if it were known that they held such an opportune position, they would become a target for terrorists immediately. It is well known that Muslim terrorists threaten non-violent Muslims from the territories who have passes into Israel that if they don't cooperate with terrorist demands to assist in terrorist activities, then their daughter/sister/mother/wife will be raped or another member of their family assaulted or murdered. For the average construction worker, the odds may not be that high that he will fall into this unlucky scenario, but someone (obviously would have to be an "Israeli Arab" rather than a Pali from the territories, the latter which would never qualify to work at the airport) who works in airport security at Ben-Gurion? Oh, boy. That would be irresistable for a terrorist. Remember that these two groups, Palis in the territories and "Israeli Arabs" are the SAME PEOPLE, SAME FAMILIES, just living on different sides of the green line, one having citizenship and one not. A terrorist can threaten an Israeli Arab's sister or cousin who lives in the territories, for example, or he can nab an "Israeli Arab" who comes to visit family in the territories. No one is safe and the threat of horrific violence is always present.

It is a horrible situation.

231 So?  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:53:13pm

Hijab Vs. Habit

Is this a reprisal for yesterday's address by the Pope?

232 Maximu§  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:57:18pm

re: #222 Speegon

re: #115 Maximu§

And we're supposed to pretend that no white people ever joined the Taliban or al Qaeda?

Facts are facts, most terrorists are young Muslim males with brown skin and names like Mohammed, Abdul or whatever. In regards to any white or Black Muslim converts, they should be profiled and jacked up twice as much as a born Muslim.

I would trust a Muslim convert about as far as I can throw one.

Maximu§
3/11 ACR

233 Dustyvet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 2:57:35pm

re: #231 So?

Hijab Vs. Habit

Is this a reprisal for yesterday's address by the Pope?


Now that's an angle I had not considered...

234 lectrikhed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:04:27pm

I flew El Al out of Los Angeles. It was a very intense security screening process. They had a team of people which came out, quizzed you, and then checked you in. There was no messing around. It was very efficient. It was the quickest check in process at the airport I've ever had. They had their security down. It would be very easy to detect a terrorist, criminal, etc.

So if a small airline can do it, why can't the united states airlines provide that level of security. It's not hard to figure out who the terrorists are.

PS, El Al was the best airline I have ever flown. It was modern, with plenty of movies, good food, clean, and everyone was polite. Plus the hot Jewish women.

235 missykrissy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:09:58pm

I don't know about weapons, but for a while it was very common ( or so I have heard ) for drug runners to dress as priests and nuns. The more traditional nuns habit has a lot of loose fabric to cover packages taped to the skin, and back then fewer border patrol people would suspect and/or search a religious person.

We should not forget that - while weapons/terror is perhaps the first thing WE think about at the airport checkpoints - they ARE still checking for sundry other violations of the law.

PS: There are any number of real nuns that *I* wouldn't trust. I don't think the Catholic Worker is quite into suicide bombs ( yet ) but I have heard stories of currency smuggling (CASH for 'social justice' - and we know what that means! ) so I wouldn't want nuns-as-a-group to be given a 'walk'.

236 aussie_dave  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:11:56pm

If it was me being searched, I'd say "while your down there.."

237 Trumpeter  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:15:18pm

re: #101 Egfrow

re: #78 Sharmuta
Most of the TSA Muslims are women, especially in the NE USA because other Muslim women travelers.

If the Muslims were made to travel only one direction (which one?) there would be no need to have Muslims security staff.

238 Cheese Eating Victory Monkey  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:20:35pm

The picture reminds me of an old yet relevant joke:

[Link: www.leerburg.com...]

239 carray  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:49:55pm

how do we know the nun wasn't deliberately targeted because she's obviously Christian?

240 Josephine  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:51:54pm

re: #208 Egfrow

re: #161 Josephine

Not just look like but act like also. I've had more than a few hostile stare downs in airport terminals from scull cap bearded workers.

Wow. That would make me uncomfortable (I rarely fly).

241 George Wilhelm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:53:17pm

re: #6 FrogMarch

re: #6 FrogMarch

As a nation, we're f*cked.

I hate to say it, being my first post and all ... but ... DITTO!

242 Josephine  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 3:56:22pm

re: #221 justamomof4

re: #169 Josephine

You said nothing inflamatory at all.

Personally, I find the image offensive & the TSA PC agenda suicidal. There are days I feel I've entered the Twilight Zone, and pray that at some point I can change the channel. Do you know what I mean?

In all honesty, I don't know for a fact that Israel doesn't hire muslims for airport security. IMHO, it would however be a justifiable policy, whether in Israel or the USA.

Phew, thank you for clarifying. I totally agree with you.

243 Josephine  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:02:21pm

re: #225 justamomof4

re: #169 Josephine
PIMF . . .I just looked at my original comment at 137 . I thought I erased my comment to Charles. My reply to your comment at #114 was a 'run on' type of sentence that latched onto the comment I thought I erased earlier. Whooops. Sorry, I missed that.

Clicking heels together three times and repeating PIMF, PIMF, PIMF.

LOL. I thought I was in big trouble and didn't know why!

244 Andrew2  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:19:32pm

Wow. This photo says it all. Everything that made this nation great is being destroyed by the 5th column within. That especially includes our large and growing Moslem population. Why is this happening? And don't forget people, that it all has the weight of the law behind it. It comes in the package of multiKultural drivel and diversity.

A country so constructed has never existed in the entire history of human experience. Yet the dummy's, the mostly white liberal idiots that is, are championing unto death, the deadly notion that we can all just get along.

I guess when white Christian Europe, white Christian America, and maybe Australia are all "Diverse", the world will be a better place. OK. Then what nation will defend the rights of non-minorities?

245 JWM  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:56:45pm

Thank the moslems among us for such screenings. Thank the leftists among us for moslems being hired to do them.

JWM

246 spam spam spam spam  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:59:39pm

re: #14 MandyManners

Why the hell is a Muslim working there in the first place?

I notice airports are FULL of muslim workers...from parking lot attendants to car rental employees to cabbies to TSA workers to baggage handlers to, well, you-know-whoists.

247 Strike Hornet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:05:44pm

re: #79 Occasional Reader

re: #26 bikermailman

Nuns, little old ladies with walkers and O2 tanks, six year olds, yeah, check them out...the 29 year old male ME male, beard, praying in Arabic? Come right on through, good sir, have a good flight?

Based on what I hear from friends who look Arab, that is not exactly the case.

My 78 year old Mother (German/French/Irish decent) has been frisked and taken to secondary security TWICE this year alone...that is how ridiculous this PC crap has gotten...

248 duck  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:30:02pm

What have we come to?! This is disgusting. If it weren't for Muslims like her and her relatives, we wouldn't be going through this b** s*** at the airport.

Don't know about you, but I fly much less because of the continual mess and restrictions.

249 hb  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:48:49pm

I wonder what she is planting on that nun?

250 charles_martel  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:18:24pm

My Irony Meter is smoking. I think it broke.

251 nev.  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:24:09pm

re: #33 Killgore Trout

EC Marm posted a version with tweaked contrast earlier, it come out a bit clearer.

Here.

252 justamomof4  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:34:58pm

re: #230 American Jewess In Jerusalem
Your insight is very much appreciated. It is a sad situation, but one of their own making - thanks to the hateful doctrine their prophet preserves.

253 guzziguy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:36:12pm

This nonsense, my friends, is why I refuse to fly. I will not be treated like a terrorist. I am a patriot. I have carried arms in the service of this nation. I have faced down armed thugs in defense of the innocent. I have stepped toward harm so that the innocent could escape danger. I would do it again.

I now am in a job that requires a bit of travel. I will NOT fly. I bill my employer only for a reimbursement equal to the cheapest coach flight available rather than the full mileage traveled.

If the airlines and/or the govt. want me to fly they can change my mind by simply allowing me to carry my duty weapon. I can pass their security clearance needs. Traveling police should be allowed to carry. Marine on leave...bring your sidearm. Everybody in the plane would feel safer.

254 newshutr  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:40:21pm

I've always found out that scanning a nun becomes habit forming...

255 WideAwake  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:52:05pm
#254 newshutr 9/22/07 7:40:21 pm reply quote report 0
I've always found out that scanning a nun becomes habit forming...

:)

256 world turned upside down  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:10:46pm

# Mandy Manners

"Take your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ape!"


Hilarious!

257 wiley  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:27:56pm

obviously security doesn't know the difference between a burqua and a habit.

mike

258 jenv  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:36:49pm

I wonder if she's so diligent when inspecting fellow members of the umma. It should be obvious that if a Muslim terrorist is going to get something dangerous on a plane, Muslim security guards are the likely means by which that will happen. But I forgot, "moderate" Muslims would never help "radical" Muslims expand Islam's power, as the Koran instructs Muslims to do, assuming you could actually tell which of your prospective Muslim employees is "moderate".

259 descolada9  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:34:29pm

I think I'm on the verge of tears over this one, Charles. This really, really upsets me to no end to see a Catholic nun submitting to an inspection from a Muslim like that.

260 Kalifornia Kafir  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:51:55pm

Personally I don't think its as funny as it seems. If I were an Islamic Jihadist, I would be working overtime to find Dhimmis that seem to be above suspicion... dhimmis who were willing to carry out Jihad for me because their delusions of compassion, tolerance and interest in peace, love and understanding make them easy marks ( i.e., easily brainwashed). And that includes nuns, mothers with babies, journalists, U.S. Senators, etc. As far as I'm concerned NO ONE is above suspicion.

261 wildwood  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:32:18am

metro sucks, big time. they were so rude to my 93 year old father, who was in a wheelchair just to try to make it through the airport. they wouldn't let me help take his belt off. it made me sick. another time i walked through the metal detector with 2 batteries in my pocket. it didn't go off because it wasn't ON, and when i said something they got mad and waved me through, obviously irritated.

262 Alwaysfaithful  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 6:08:40pm

Why isn't our flag upside down in this photo?

263 TheHussar  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 11:29:14pm

#215
My sense of irony is fine:

Your comment:

What makes this scene absurd is the context: young men of Middle-Eastern appearance are not to be frisked or even questioned by TSA under threat of civil-rights lawsuit, at least according to Hamas front group CAIR and their tireless cheerleaders, the American Civil Liberties Union.

While CAIR as a Hamas front would like the above to be the case, it most definitely is not. All I said was there is no standard profile for a terrrorist and even El Al and the Israelis agree on this. I did not say that Middle Eastern males should not be frisked because CAIR wants to prevent this; of course they should. If you think frisking the nuns was wrong, you are unaware of how anti-terrorism security works. The fact that TSA agent has a hijab may be ironic to you, but I seriously doubt she does not undergo a security frisking herself by the TSA. Yes, frisk Arabs, but frisk everyone. The hijab is just a stupid statement by the wearer.

As for the remark about Rachel Corrie: She was not a terrorist who carried a gun, but a human shiled for terrorists who do. Her activities helped smuggle weapons into Gaza that killed Jewish children in Sderot. She was a terrorist enabler who called terrorists "martyrs."


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