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Columbia Dean: We'd Certainly Invite Hitler

Sat, Sep 22, 2007 at 4:07:51 pm PDT

Columbia University dean John Coatsworth says if Hitler were in the United States he’d find “plenty of platforms from which to speak.”

And Columbia would be one of them; they would “certainly invite him.”

The Ivory Tower has turned into an insane asylum.

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1 Canadian Guy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:09:29pm

There are no words

2 Far Sparkle  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:09:45pm

Give Him A State, Too.

3 trailortrash  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:10:28pm

...

4 Pangloss  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:10:34pm

No suprise

5 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:10:36pm
6 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:10:52pm

Higher education is highly over-rated.

Two words :

Technical college.

7 mikefln  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:10:58pm

Un-freakin-believable.

I know every generation probably says this, but damn, we're in trouble.

8 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:10:59pm

They'd invite hitler. Have they invited Bush?

9 He's dead, Jim  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:11:12pm

re: #1 Canadian Guy

Yes there are:

"Subversion"

"Treason"

"Subterfuge"

"Ideological Warfare"

10 Da_Beerfreak  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:11:23pm

re: #1 Canadian Guy

There is one word...
Sick

11 winston06  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:11:42pm

Disgusting!

12 BignJames  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:11:46pm

They'd give him tenure,too.

13 Far Sparkle  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:11:49pm

Next thing we know is that he has invited Ron Paul (to make a trifecta.)

14 brakes  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:12:18pm

What's he trying to prove?

15 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:12:30pm

This implies that Hitler had legitimacy. That he had ideas worth listening to and considering. That he was a thinker that deserved a forum, and that his plans may have some validity.

16 Blastforth  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:12:35pm

Why do they think its OK to pay respect to criminals?

17 Athos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:12:49pm

But if you represent the Minutemen or are Military recruiters - the answer is a definitive NO.

18 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:13:35pm

But of course, the ROTC is illegitimate. Not like that peaceful Adolph guy.

19 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:14:19pm

re: #14 brakes

What's he trying to prove?


He's proving the he makes no moral judgements. That's the foundation of multiculturalism and moral equivalence.

20 CrimsonFisted  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:14:45pm

There is no question in my mind students are leaving the school in droves, transferring, parents are no longer paying. What good use can we put those buildings after the school closes? Just thinking ahead.

Perhaps a War College? A museum to document real, not revisionist, history perhaps?

21 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:14:52pm

re: #19 Killgore Trout

re: #14 brakes


What's he trying to prove?


He's proving the he makes no moral judgements. That's the foundation of multiculturalism and moral equivalence.

DING DING DING

22 lifeofthemind  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:15:12pm

Coatsworth! Really? I know him. Long time member of the Communist party, I had him for Latin American Civ. at Chicago back in the Stone Age. He was a courteous man who I could disagree with without his being disagreeable. Times on campus have changed I fear.

23 Da_Beerfreak  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:15:33pm

re: #6 mama winger

As a tech school alumni I couldn't agree more.

24 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:15:38pm

What?

25 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:15:45pm

re: #6 mama winger

Preach it.

That's how I learned my trade.

Straight past the bullshit, and right into my field. I earn much more than most of my peers who went into debt attending moonbat colleges.

26 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:15:53pm

re: #22 lifeofthemind

Coatsworth! Really? I know him. Long time member of the Communist party, I had him for Latin American Civ. at Chicago back in the Stone Age. He was a courteous man who I could disagree with without his being disagreeable. Times on campus have changed I fear.

Really ?!? Extraordinary!

27 Carol Herman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:17:00pm

Well, they can't, because the putz killed himself, when he realized "all was lost."

As to Columbia, they certainly can invite whomever they like. "Whatever brings an audience," I suppose?

But they are without taste.

And, other than they're expecting those who buy their credentials, to pay through the nose for them; exactly how far are they actually getting on affirmative action?

Dan Rather, also, doesn't know he shot his wad.

Because? Seems there's an audience for all this crap.

Confusing all that works, with this steaming pile of horse shit.

28 Wendya  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:17:15pm

re: #15 mama winger

This implies that Hitler had legitimacy. That he had ideas worth listening to and considering. That he was a thinker that deserved a forum, and that his plans may have some validity.

Exactly!

Let's also remember those same students trumpeting Ahmadinejad's supposed right to free speech in America would be protesting, seething and rampaging if President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Sec Rice or former Sec Rumsfeld were invited to speak.

29 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:17:37pm

re: #23 Da_Beerfreak

re: #6 mama winger

As a tech school alumni I couldn't agree more.

I know so many young people , spending money they don't have, flopping around in some liberal arts college with no frickin idea of what they plan on doing for a job.

A job?

Foreign concept. The object is to go to school for as long as you can, on dad's dime.

30 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:17:51pm

Should I be laughing at this? For some reason I am, this guy is insane and he is running one of the largest universities in America. hahahahhahahahahaha

31 Wendya  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:18:13pm

re: #20 CrimsonFisted

There is no question in my mind students are leaving the school in droves, transferring, parents are no longer paying.


This would require parents to take a firm stand and refuse to pay for their kids to continue. It ain't gonna happen.

32 pat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:18:19pm

Of course this may seem good and well in a vacuum, but this University, and i use the term loosely, does not allow army recruiters, has no ROTC, has harassed Christian clubs unmercifully, is openly anti-Israel and pro-Islam, takes money from Saudi Arabia and operates the most liberal and useless journalism school in the Nation, a school that is a disgrace to news reporting.

33 agrosquid  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:18:52pm

I saw this on FOX and remember the "plenty of platforms" as not being Columbia. He prefaced saying that he could of spoken at Columbia provided he was willing to face the scrunity of the faculty; whatever that's worth. But, I do think that's a bit of a selective quote there, Charles.

34 ZionistYoungster  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:19:01pm

Hi lizardot and lizardim,

I know as well as any of us how depressing that can be, and, before I go hit the sack, I'd just like to bring a post of mine I wrote long ago (in blogging terms; December 20, 2006, to be accurate) as a cautious consolation about the future:

Potentially A Great Generation

I hope I'm right in that post; in any case, seeing all those pieces that make you feel like tearing your hair out, I wanted to do my part in bringing a little optimism.

Good night, lizards.

35 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:19:03pm

re: #32 pat

Of course this may seem good and well in a vacuum, but this University, and i use the term loosely, does not allow army recruiters, has no ROTC, has harassed Christian clubs unmercifully, is openly anti-Israel and pro-Islam, takes money from Saudi Arabia and operates the most liberal and useless journalism school in the Nation, a school that is a disgrace to news reporting.

Other than that, I hear it is a pretty good school.

/

36 Carol Herman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:19:39pm

Well, when Patton crossed the Rhine, there were a lot of germans ripping off their nazi insignias.

Ah, "if" they could invite Stalin, HE could certainly discuss this.

37 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:19:47pm

re: #34 ZionistYoungster

Goodnight, and thanks for the link !

38 StinkHammer  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:19:54pm

re: #15 mama winger

This implies that Hitler had legitimacy. That he had ideas worth listening to and considering. That he was a thinker that deserved a forum, and that his plans may have some validity.

My thoughts exactly, Mama -- thanks for summing up. Of course, presenting a rational argument like that is ineffective in an arena where "Fuck Bush" is accepted as erudite political discourse.

39 Athos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:20:13pm

re: #29 mama winger

re: #23 Da_Beerfreak

re: #6 mama winger

As a tech school alumni I couldn't agree more.

I know so many young people , spending money they don't have, flopping around in some liberal arts college with no frickin idea of what they plan on doing for a job.

A job?

Foreign concept. The object is to go to school for as long as you can, on dad's dime.

...and get indoctrinated then turn that into a career in academia to start indoctrinating yet another generation of 'experts' to promote multiculturalism and moral relativism while being nurtured in the echo chamber.

40 Abu Bin Squid  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:21:06pm

re: #19 Killgore Trout

re: #14 brakes

What's he trying to prove?

He's proving the he makes no moral judgements. That's the foundation of multiculturalism and moral equivalence.


Killgore: They won't let the ROTC on campus nor would they invite our current President. He makes moral judgements about those with whom he disagrees/hates. Very childlike for any educator.

41 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:21:13pm

re: #29 mama winger

I recently dated a girl like that. Brilliant Korean, 34 years old. Still a student, and still not sure what she wanted to do.

10 years in American universities warped her mind. She worshiped her fart-smelling professors and anything they told her... most of which was re-cycled anti-capitalist drech.

All while getting deeper into debt.

Needless to say, it didn't work out.

I enjoyed it while it lasted, though. (:

42 Athos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:21:23pm

re: #35 mama winger

re: #32 pat

Of course this may seem good and well in a vacuum, but this University, and i use the term loosely, does not allow army recruiters, has no ROTC, has harassed Christian clubs unmercifully, is openly anti-Israel and pro-Islam, takes money from Saudi Arabia and operates the most liberal and useless journalism school in the Nation, a school that is a disgrace to news reporting.

Other than that, I hear it is a pretty good school.

/

Isn't it amazing that reality does nothing to alter perceptions?

43 towerclimber37  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:21:56pm

Its sorry pieces of crap like the dean of columbia university that gave hitler a nobel peace prize too...

he's so smart, he's a retard.

44 So?  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:22:02pm

Build a wall around Columbia University.

45 StinkHammer  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:22:42pm

re: #28 Wendya

Let's also remember those same students trumpeting Ahmadinejad's supposed right to free speech in America would be protesting, seething and rampaging if President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Sec Rice or former Sec Rumsfeld were invited to speak.

Too true -- just ask David Horowitz, Ann Coulter or any number of right-of-center political figures.

46 He's dead, Jim  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:23:42pm

Columbia, home of the Frankfurt School, where the modern dialetic method was perfected: thesis - antithesis - synthesis.

When you are in charge of the synthesizing, you can change the direction of things; two steps "progressively" forward, one step back. It might take you twice as long to get there, but you still get there, and few people are the wiser.

In this case, they know Iran is going down over it's nuke program, and because they hate America and capitalism so much they are willing to believe every petty thug who lays claim to past American wrongs, they will do everything they can to head off that conflict.

In their idealistic little minds, having an anti-American, vaguely anti-capitalist theocratic regime with nuclear weapons is a good thing, because they think helping out the petty thugs will get them closer to a brave new socialist world.

Too bad the thugs tend to liquidate the idealists whenever their power becomes secure.

47 marwan's daughter  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:23:42pm

re: #33 agrosquid

I saw this on FOX and remember the "plenty of platforms" as not being Columbia. He prefaced saying that he could of spoken at Columbia provided he was willing to face the scrunity of the faculty; whatever that's worth. But, I do think that's a bit of a selective quote there, Charles.

And what scrutiny will Ahmadinutjob face from faculty? Nada, zip, zippo, zilch! You can bet many are supporting this, especially from the Middle Eastern Studies Department. And in the 1930s, much of the faculty at that time would have been receptive to Der Fuhrer too.

48 ornery elephant  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:23:43pm

OT

Sorry but I need some good news!

His name is Staff Sgt. Chad Malmberg. And he is the FIRST Minnesota National Guardsman to be awarded the Silver Star since World War II. This young sergeant, leading 15 of his men on a convoy in Iraq was attacked by insurgents and in almost movie-like form, he left his vehicle to stand in the line of fire to heave grenades, to fire a shoulder mount rocket and direct air cover.

The President of Columbia University isn't worthy of licking Staff Sgt. Malmberg's boots.

Here's the story

49 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:23:48pm

re: #41 astronmr20

She must have been very pretty :)

50 Promethea  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:24:09pm

But would they invite George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, Rush Limbaugh, or Ann Coulter?

I think not.

These so-called Freedom of Speechers (to coin a term) have not really thought things through very carefully. They are inhabitants of a bubble. Surely there's some Twilight Zone episode that gives an analogy of the kinds of intellectual lives these foolish people lead.

If my children were looking for colleges now, I would be extra careful not to send them to a moonbat school. At the time my children went to college, post-modernism was just getting its death grip on the humanities. I didn't recognize it at the time, but now I understand what was going on--the "narrative" and all.

I can guarantee that future historians will regard this era in the same way they wrote about Madam Blavatsky and the phrenologists.

51 So?  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:24:25pm

re: #44 So?

Build a wall around Columbia University.

You can go in, but you can never come out!

52 ChildOfMary  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:25:04pm

For those who have access to C-SPAN 2 they will carry the National Press Club's luncheon video conference with Ahmadinejad at noon on Monday. So far the schedule on the web site does not show when it will be rebroadcast.

53 StinkHammer  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:25:08pm

re: #15 mama winger

This implies that Hitler had legitimacy....

Well, he did green light the Volkswagon . . .

54 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:25:14pm

Charles:

I really submit and suggest that you get cracking on splitting your feeds. Over at Breitbart they're carrying "Saturday Afternoon Open" as opposed to some of the others which are more preferrable.

55 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:25:17pm

re: #40 Abu Bin Squid

They won't let the ROTC on campus nor would they invite our current President. He makes moral judgements about those with whom he disagrees/hates.

Of course the whole thing is Ant-americanism but in their minds if they let ROTC on campus then they'd have to openly allow Al Qaeda recruiters for the insurgency.

56 leepro  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:25:19pm

Got three questions:

1.) Does Columbia receive any fed funding? And I do mean any... like tuition grants, research, etc., etc.

2.) Where is the voice of their older alumni? (Or are even the older alums of the same ilk?)

3.) Have their contributions, donations, endowments (whether by alums or from outsiders) dropped off at all?

57 ted  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:25:26pm

Actually this is nothing new. We all know the U.S University system has always embraced the ideology du jour. First Bolshevism , then Nazism, now Jihadism. Harvard was an avid supporter of the 3rd Reich.

Really any belief that has at its core jewish genocide.

Whenwas the last time you heard Buddhists or Amish being invited to speak?

58 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:25:47pm
59 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:25:52pm

re: #48 ornery elephant

Thank you mightily for that. Wow - just wow!

I have loved the spirit of the MN National Guard since they made that 'dumb' sign for John Kerry. That was a classic, and one of the most popular threads we ever had here.


NATIONAL GUARD ROCKS !

click my name sometime

60 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:25:55pm

re: #49 mama winger

re: #41 astronmr20

She must have been very pretty :)

Ha! Gorgeous.

(I get yer point (:

61 pat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:26:20pm

Did any of you catch the girl from Columbia on O'reilly last nite? Her hatred for America bled through her fake smile. And of course she made much of the fact that she was not from here, but was from South America so that somehow made her smarter than other Americans, more liberal and nuanced, a giant among pink Pygmies. And no doubt a star in ethnic studies and Spanish classes.

62 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:26:35pm
63 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:26:43pm

This guy should go on Bill Mauhers show.

64 abolitionist  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:26:43pm

re: #8 Killgore Trout

They'd invite hitler. Have they invited Bush?

Good one, but for LLLs, questions like that just go in one ear and get lost.

65 Carol Herman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:26:51pm

In 1939. the "Nobel" committee selected Hitler for their top prize.

Sometimes, the stupidity of it all remains as surprising as ever.

Hilter passes the Columbia "smell test." What were they smelling? Affirmative Action "heroes?"

Sez more about the dean than you can imagine.

66 Yank in the EU  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:26:56pm

Allowing Hitler -- or Ahmadinejad -- to speak at an US university would be an abomination. By this, it is as if they have speech fit to be heard in decent / civilized society and a viewpoint that merits our hosting and legitimation. It is sheer weakness and complicity in the evil by Columbia. Hitlers and Mahmouds can speak well enough from their own totalitarian, brutalized nations. Treating genocidal, sworn enemies and state sponsors of terror as though they are legitimate actors in the public and political spheres, whose speechs we ought to host and have respectful dialogue with, is categorically wrong. That is no way to treat true evil and thuggery.

67 PaxAmericana  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:27:22pm

Why can't we question their patriotism again?

68 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:27:27pm

re: #48 ornery elephant

The thing he's most proud of, he said, is that none of his troops was injured.

Malmberg plans to graduate from Minnesota State University, Mankato, with a law enforcement degree in a few months, then hopes to join the St. Paul Police Department.

A true hero.

69 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:27:28pm

re: #15 mama winger It certainly does and that the Dean said this on the Eve of Yom Kippur indicates that he, too, has never heard of, or doesn't belive the Holocaust ever happended.
Wonder if he'd invite Pol Pot to speak as well?

71 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:28:02pm
72 Egfrow  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:28:46pm

If moral clarity was listed on the NASAQ. It would be at an all time low.

73 Promethea  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:29:00pm

#27 Carol Herman . . .

I thought your description a few days ago of how your political views changed was excellent.

I too will never vote Democrat again unless this rump of a party changes drastically. Right now it's infected by rabies-crazed moonbats.

74 Idle Drifter  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:29:21pm

Military recruiters and ROTC bad, while hate filled examples of humanity get a free pass and a platform with a bunch of soft students asking even softer questions.

Actually, I would be all for Dinner jacket making an appearance at these schools for some real questions:

The Air Force, Army, and Naval Academies

Virginia Military Institute

The Citadel

Wouldn't have to worry about security.

75 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:29:21pm

re: #58 savage_nation

He wouldn't do it while he's here. If he wanted to do something he'd be safe in Tehran.

76 Charles  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:29:44pm

re: #33 agrosquid

I saw this on FOX and remember the "plenty of platforms" as not being Columbia. He prefaced saying that he could of spoken at Columbia provided he was willing to face the scrunity of the faculty; whatever that's worth. But, I do think that's a bit of a selective quote there, Charles.

It is not a selective quote. Those are the exact words he said.

Sure, he also said "if he were willing to engage in a debate," as anyone can hear for themselves simply by following the link and watching the video. But this in no way changes the meaning of what he said.

77 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:29:49pm

re: #66 Yank in the EU

Bravo !

78 Athos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:29:59pm

re: #46 He's dead, Jim

Too bad the thugs tend to liquidate the idealists whenever their power becomes secure.

All they would have to do is objectively look at what happened in Iran since the islamofascist takeover - communists, intellectuals, homosexuals, feminists, etc all targets and arrested / executed in many cases.

They are so naive that they actually do think the enemy of my enemy is my friend when it comes to ideology. They are nothing but the same useful idiots that lenin spoke so proudly of.....now it's the islamofascists celebrating the useful idiots.

79 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:30:24pm

re: #61 pat

Did any of you catch the girl from Columbia on O'reilly last nite? Her hatred for America bled through her fake smile. And of course she made much of the fact that she was not from here, but was from South America so that somehow made her smarter than other Americans, more liberal and nuanced, a giant among pink Pygmies. And no doubt a star in ethnic studies and Spanish classes.


There are alot of them at Mason, arogant elitist snobs that always bring up how they are not American and were not born here. Like that somehow gives their opinions weight. Meanwhile in order to get here im sure they are millionaires in their home countries so its not like they have alot in common with the masses in their homelands. If their countries were so good why the fuck dont they move back is my question.

80 TMK  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:31:05pm

Bush Derangement Syndrome, Advanced (BDSA): A syndrome of acquired malformations and lesions of brain tissue, characterized by intense autophobia (hatred of self and the group to which one belongs), transference of autophobia to a charismatic individual, cultural alienation, paranoia, pathological lying, prolific swearing, severe mood swings, public nudity, and a cult-like adherance to transcendental idealism.

The advanced stage of the disease is marked by self-destructive behavior, whereby the damage caused by each act of self-sabotage is attributed to the charismatic target. This robs the sufferer of the ability to recognize the true source of damage, thus treatment is rarely sought. The advanced stage of the disease is usually fatal.

The disease is contagious and is transfered orally. Children and young people between the ages of twelve and twenty-five attending public schools have a significantly high risk of contracting BDS. As always, self-education is the key to prevention.

The Mad Kaiser Center for Moonbat Treatment & Rehabilitation

81 Carol Herman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:31:16pm

re: #15 mama winger

This implies that Hitler had legitimacy. That he had ideas worth
listening to and considering. That he was a thinker that deserved a
forum, and that his plans may have some validity.

He took germany down the toilet.

I don't mind people discussing hitler these days. ON par with discussing afarart, arafish, or araFAT. Failures, not just in their own right; but taking people down with them.

Stalin got to enjoy hitler's fall.

Why forget?

If people understood, you wouldn't have to be inviting ghosts to columbia U.

The Affirmative Action crowd has it all wrong.

Ditto, for the Code Pinko's.

How do you flash those people that the hitler schtick no longer arouses fears? You need me to introduce you to Mel Brooks?

82 pat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:31:40pm

re: #69 realwest

re: #15 mama winger It certainly does and that the Dean said this on the Eve of Yom Kippur indicates that he, too, has never heard of, or doesn't belive the Holocaust ever happended.
Wonder if he'd invite Pol Pot to speak as well?

Now realwest that is a silly question. The left has questioned Hitler's socialist credentials since he attacked Russia. Pol Pot is still held in high esteem. Just a bad bout of publicity did old Pol in.

83 brakes  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:31:45pm

re: #75 Killgore Trout

re: #75 Killgore Trout

re: #58 savage_nation

He wouldn't do it while he's here. If he wanted to do something he'd be safe in Tehran.

He's a real simpleton if he thinks he's going to be safe in Iran.

84 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:32:10pm
85 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:32:39pm

#33 agrosquid

I saw this on FOX and remember the "plenty of platforms" as not being Columbia.


Just watched it again.....
"We would certainly invite him"

86 The Shadow Do  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:32:44pm

A couple of suggestions for future forums sure to intellectually stimulate:
Charles Manson
John William "Possum" King

Perhaps there are others

87 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:32:53pm

My mother is a Columbia grad. Med school. She's an R.N.


Here was her letter that she copied me on today:

To: secretary@columbia.edu

Dear Sir,

As a past Alumni of Columbia, I am appalled at the University allowing the
president of a terrorist regime to set foot on the campus. It does not
matter how strong your forum will be. He is an enemy of the U.S and
responsible for the death of many of our soldiers fighting for mine and your freedom in this war on terrorism.

It is an abuse of your freedom to sanction a terrorist on the Campus under the guise of a Global Forum, regardless of how strong you or the
International studies dept. feels this will benefit the Campus.

This is a slap in the face of every American, and a degradation of Columbia University.

Neither myself nor my friends who are Alumni will continue to support the University.

Please forward to the President of Columbia and the trustees as I do not
have their e-mail.


Signed sincerely,
(my Mom)

88 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:33:18pm

re: #84 JammieWearingFool

Just Poop™

89 Said Infidel  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:34:24pm

Isn't it about time that the University Board and administrators were publicly ostracised and snubbed, including those that support the university, especially SPONSORS.

90 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:34:40pm

re: #27 Carol Herman

Carol -

A former President of Columbia, Dwight D. Eisenhower, allowed Private Eddie Slovik to be shot for far less potential damage to the nation. That is all.

-S-

92 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:34:51pm

This discussion reminds me of what we were talking about on a previous thead - recruitment.

If colleges and universities promote anti-Americanism, and are outright hostile to all things military, it is going to become harder and harder to reach college-age young people as far as encouraging military service. The Left will rob us of our potential heros, people like ornery elephant referenced above.

Parents - have you talked to your children about the idea of a career in military service? Or even a four-year stint? Do it.

93 He's dead, Jim  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:35:00pm

Hilary's mentor, the legendary radical Saul Alinsky, said this about revolution:

"There's another reason for working inside the system. Dostoevsky said that taking a new step is what people fear most. Any revolutionary change must be preceded by a passive, affirmative, non-challenging attitude toward change among the mass of our people. They must feel so frustrated, so defeated, so lost, so futureless in the prevailing system that they are willing to let go of the past and chance the future. This acceptance is the reformation essential to any revolution. To bring on this reformation requires that the organizer work inside the system,

Education is a critical part of our system; hence the infiltration of secret communists to the academy for the past century and their dominance of it now.

94 Charles  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:35:36pm

By the way, the obsessed morons at GCP are still talking about their plans to sabotage LGF, and another one of their accounts was just blocked.

95 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:35:53pm

re: #87 astronmr20

Go Mom!

96 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:36:40pm

re: #94 Charles

Talk to the great Lizard Hand, bitches!

97 ted  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:36:40pm

Here are some more of Columbias illustrative faculty;

Edward Wadie Saïd (Arabic: %u0625%u062F%u0648%u0627%u0631%u062F %u0648%u062F%u064A%u0639 %u0633%u0639%u064A%u062F, Edward Wad%u012B‘ Sa‘%u012Bd; 1 November 1935 – 25 September 2003) was a Palestinian-American literary theorist and outspoken Palestinian activist. He was University Professor of English and Comparative Literature at Columbia University, and is regarded as a founding figure in postcolonial theory.

"On July 3, 2000, Said was photographed lobbing a rock across the Lebanon-Israel border.

Although Said denied aiming the rock at Israeli soldiers, an eyewitness account in the Lebanese newspaper As-Safir asserted that Said had positioned himself less than 30 feet from Israeli soldiers manning a two-story watchtower before throwing the rock over the border fence, though it instead hit barbed-wire. "One stone tossed into an empty space scarcely warrants a second thought", he later said, labeling the stone-throwing as "a symbolic gesture of joy". The stoning was witnessed by Israel-based television journalist Dennis Zinn, who suggested "the Lebanese line up and wait to throw their rocks until soldiers and civilians are exposed."

While the photo provoked criticism from some Columbia faculty and students as well as from the Anti-Defamation League, the provost issued a statement defending Said's act on the grounds of freedom of expression, a position echoed by his supporters on campus.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

98 Yank in the EU  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:37:09pm

re: #77 mama winger
Yes, it's one thing to study Hitler and read his books for good purposes and another to give him quarter and a platform of any kind. It's a very basic idea that you just don't lend support of any kind, such as allowing them to speak a university, to figureheads of evil. Any possible good that might result from that is far-outweighed by the original moral failing regarding the evil they do.

99 leepro  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:37:11pm

re: #79 SecretInternetDoucheBag

There are alot of them at Mason, arogant elitist snobs...

You talking about George Mason University? If so, Mason also has Walter Williams, multi-degreed, multi-award-winning/honored economics professor (catch him at TownHall.com) who frequently slams leftist philosophies! Subs for Rush sometimes, too.

100 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:37:14pm

re: #86 The Shadow Do

A couple of suggestions for future forums sure to intellectually stimulate:
Charles Manson
John William "Possum" King

Perhaps there are others

I have no idea who Possum King is, but you read my mind on Charles Manson.

I was going to post that.

101 mama winger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:37:23pm

dinner apparently is being served ......

one benefit of being sick :)

bbl

102 Texas Joel  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:37:26pm

re: #75 Killgore Trout

Wait until 10/12.
Last day of Ramadan.
Last Friday of Ramadan- "Let us destroy Israel Day" in Iran
Iran has said the world will have Iran's final answer on nuclear development on that date.
News reports say terrorists arrested in Germany had instructions to act on or before 9/15-- needing a month to let security calm down before the big blow?
Increasing tempo of dry runs covering schools, school buses, ferrys, fire stations, etc.
Even French politicians beginning to think Iran is a threat. (sure sign that it is too late do anything major)

103 Egfrow  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:37:49pm

re: #94 Charles

Is there a link to peep them out?

104 Athos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:38:16pm

re: #92 mama winger

This discussion reminds me of what we were talking about on a previous thead - recruitment.

If colleges and universities promote anti-Americanism, and are outright hostile to all things military, it is going to become harder and harder to reach college-age young people as far as encouraging military service. The Left will rob us of our potential heros, people like ornery elephant referenced above.

Parents - have you talked to your children about the idea of a career in military service? Or even a four-year stint? Do it.

You're right - the foundation for the values of this country and to introduce to them the idea of providing service to the country has to start with the parents. Set that foundation into place well before the idiotarians and anti-American academics can start to inflict their indoctrination efforts.

105 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:38:24pm

What is GCP?

106 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:38:41pm

re: #97 ted

Wow,

Therefore under the same logic of "freedom of expresion," I could kick him in the nuts and I would be vindicated.

How are these people in charge of educating our youth?

107 pat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:39:10pm

I hope Dinner Jacket is in full Weirod Mode. OMG, LOL

108 Luigi  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:39:17pm

I would just appreciate it if we and the Israelis "do" Iran while he's on Sixty Minutes.

109 Charles  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:39:30pm

re: #103 Egfrow

re: #94 Charles

Is there a link to peep them out?

I'm not linking to that site, sorry.

110 ornery elephant  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:39:42pm

re: #87 astronmr20

Hurray for your Mom !


On another subject.....

Re: Charles #94

Probably one of the dumbest questions ever here on LGF, but who is "GCP" ?

111 MrAndMrsSmith  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:39:48pm

This is most telling for the institutions of so-called higher learning.

"Memo to tyrants 'round the world: Please come to US colleges so you can use us to create propaganda of how much you're welcome and loved in America. We have no problem undermining the position the nation has had with you and your ilk."

Yeah, wonderful. If it weren't for the vast majority of academia, America wouldn't need enemies. It's nice to see that our enemies have allies here in America.

If this were done at the university I graduated from, and the one my wife currently attends (AZ. State), I might be tempted to sue for our tuitions back. Talk about malfeasance.

112 Egfrow  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:40:11pm

re: #109 Charles

LOL! I perfectly understand! No Worries.

113 ratherdashing  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:40:18pm

Just a few days ago a Columbia University student group nixed the appearance of Jim Gilchrist, Minuteman Project co-founder. See the story:

Columbia student union nixes speaker and founder of anti-illegal immigration group


NEW YORK: The founder of the Minuteman Project, who was forced off a Columbia University stage by protests last year, will not come for a return engagement after all.

A nonpartisan student group that had invited Jim Gilchrist, head of the anti-illegal-immigration group, to a forum next month, said on its Web site Tuesday that "it has become clear that this event cannot take the form we had originally hoped."

The Columbia Political Union said in its statement that the event "could not effectively accomplish the goals we had hoped it might."

Gilchrist said in a telephone interview that he was surprised at the decision, saying he had already bought airplane tickets for the event.

"I think Columbia is making a serious mistake," he said. "The CPU originally had a majority wanting me to come there. The deans wanted me to come there," although he said he always expected resistance from the student body.

Invite Ahmadinejad and Hitler, dis-invite Gilchrist. This is not the same school that graduated Pat Buchanan years ago, fo sho.

114 pat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:40:45pm

Charles, lots of new registrants don't know about the Friday Night Massacre and the follow thru.

115 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:40:49pm

Israelis seized nuclear material in Syrian raid

Israeli commandos seized nuclear material of North Korean origin during a daring raid on a secret military site in Syria before Israel bombed it this month, according to informed sources in Washington and Jerusalem.

The attack was launched with American approval on September 6 after Washington was shown evidence the material was nuclear related, the well-placed sources say.

They confirmed that samples taken from Syria for testing had been identified as North Korean. This raised fears that Syria might have joined North Korea and Iran in seeking to acquire nuclear weapons.

/big brass balls

116 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:41:49pm

What a second he said this shit on Yom Kippur too? I bet you this idiot would not in a million years say he would invite David Duke on campus, but yet its ok to invite on a mass murderer. Great job Columbia.

117 Charles  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:41:49pm

re: #114 pat

Charles, lots of new registrants don't know about the Friday Night Massacre and the follow thru.

And I really have no desire to tell the story again.

118 sheik yer'mami  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:41:53pm

This A-sole here must have gone to Columbia also:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

They must be breeding turkeys at Columbia.

In other news:

Erdogan: “Islam encourages peace”

[Link: sheikyermami.com...]

119 ted  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:43:11pm

re: #106 astronmr20

re: #97 ted

Wow,

Therefore under the same logic of "freedom of expresion," I could kick him in the nuts and I would be vindicated.

How are these people in charge of educating our youth?

Thats just the tip of the iceberg. Read David Horowitz's The Professors.

120 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:43:28pm

re: #82 pat Well, hows about we ask him about the takeover of the US Embassy in 1979 and the kidnapping and holding hostage our American Citizens who were embassy employees for 444 days?
Hell, why don't we just invite him outside into the alley for some real instruction "diaglogue"?!

121 BrooklynRed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:43:38pm

Anyone not around or in academia has no idea how bad it really is. I would not believe it myself if I weren't in school right now. The only places that seem not crazy anymore are business schools and hard sciences.

Not coincidentally, guess who makes the most money when they finish? Let me also add, guess who tends to actually finish?

122 pat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:43:54pm

re: #115 Killian Bundy

One of the pit falls of testing nukes or even blowing up nuclear material with conventional explosives if the signature. I do not doubt the the IAF team was after the nuke signatures more than anything else.

123 pat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:44:20pm

re: #117 Charles

Nor I.

124 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:44:53pm

Egfrow: The lava lamp

All:

Update on The Collegiate editorial, video from Breibart, Editor regrets decision after ads are pulled.

125 Cobra  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:45:13pm

*sigh*
If only J. Edgar's FBI were still with us.

126 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:45:55pm

re: #115 Killian Bundy

Israelis seized nuclear material in Syrian raid

Israeli commandos seized nuclear material of North Korean origin during a daring raid on a secret military site in Syria before Israel bombed it this month, according to informed sources in Washington and Jerusalem.

The attack was launched with American approval on September 6 after Washington was shown evidence the material was nuclear related, the well-placed sources say.

They confirmed that samples taken from Syria for testing had been identified as North Korean. This raised fears that Syria might have joined North Korea and Iran in seeking to acquire nuclear weapons.

/big brass balls


To me, this is pretty much "solid proof" about the whole axis of evil thing.

Big news in my book.

(unfortunatelly, the rest of the world has been mum on this airstrike and why it was done).

127 realwest  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:46:02pm

re: #117 Charles Don't blame you Charles - having to go through that once was bad enough for you and those of us who watched it with ever increasing disbelief.
And their continuing to come here with sock puppets and then slamming you ATS is an indication of a truly unhealthy obsession on their part.

128 Da_Beerfreak  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:46:45pm
re: #67 PaxAmericana

Why can't we question their patriotism again?

Because they don't have any to question.
Never had any in the first place, nor will they ever get any in the future.

129 sheik yer'mami  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:47:16pm

re: #48 ornery elephant

OT

Sorry but I need some good news!

His name is Staff Sgt. Chad Malmberg. And he is the FIRST Minnesota National Guardsman to be awarded the Silver Star since World War II. This young sergeant, leading 15 of his men on a convoy in Iraq was attacked by insurgents and in almost movie-like form, he left his vehicle to stand in the line of fire to heave grenades, to fire a shoulder mount rocket and direct air cover.

The President of Columbia University isn't worthy of licking Staff Sgt. Malmberg's boots.

Here's the story

The Somali taxi drivers of Minnesota will kill him on arrival when he comes out of the airport with a bottle of whiskey. Now that they got his picture...

130 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:47:44pm

Breitbart now has your post on Palestinian Terror Attack averted.

131 bikermailman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:47:49pm

OT: Don't know if it's been mentioned, been away for a while, but N.Y. Drops Citizenship Proof For Driver's Licenses.

132 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:48:15pm

re: #94 Charles

By the way, the obsessed morons at GCP are still talking about their plans to sabotage LGF, and another one of their accounts was just blocked.


I see they're sifting through the comments today and trashing people.

133 pat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:48:21pm

re: #120 realwest

Why don't we take "this hairy Persian dwarf's" ( Courtesy of BabbaZee) fingerprints and see if we can place him at the embassy takeover. Then toss his little ass in jail with murals of the Three Pigs and that Lion King ape all over the cell.

134 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:49:00pm

re: #127 realwest

re: #117 Charles Don't blame you Charles - having to go through that once was bad enough for you and those of us who watched it with ever increasing disbelief.
And their continuing to come here with sock puppets and then slamming you ATS is an indication of a truly unhealthy obsession on their part.


Is there a link?

135 Charles  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:49:22pm

re: #127 realwest

re: #117 Charles Don't blame you Charles - having to go through that once was bad enough for you and those of us who watched it with ever increasing disbelief.
And their continuing to come here with sock puppets and then slamming you ATS is an indication of a truly unhealthy obsession on their part.

Yep.

136 Samson  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:50:36pm

[Link: www.israpundit.com...]

May 31, 2007
Columbia appoints another anti-Israel Dean
by Jerry Gordon

When former Dean of Columbia University’s School of International and Public Affairs (SIPA), Lisa Anderson resigned in a huff and returned to the faculty after the kerfuffle of her inviting Mad Mahdist Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad on the eve of Rosh Ha Shanah last fall, you might have thought things might improve with appointment of her successor. Not the case. Instead, Professor John H. Coatsworth, currently Monroe Gutman Professor of Latin American Affairs at Harvard’s David Rockefeller Center got the nod. Coatsworth is a noted scholar on Latin American economic and international history and past President of the American Historical Association.

Notwithstanding his Latin Americn expertise, Professor Coatsworth signed the anti-Israel Harvard divestment petition.

While at Chicago University in 1990, Professor Coatsworth weighed in on a Chicago public library controversy regarding a reading list put together by a virulently anti-Israel librarian, David Williams and contested by the ADL. Coatsworth, chairman of the University of Chicago history department at the time wrote the head of Chicago’s library commission: “For the general reader, Williams [the anti-Israel librarian at the center of the controversy] has put together an extremely useful and carefully balanced works on this important topic. As usual, Mr. Williams work conforms to the highest standards of professionalism. Criticisms by groups like [the ADL] with strongly partisan sympathies in respect to the Palestinian-Israeli conflict should, in my judgment, be dismissed out of hand.”

Having attended patently anti-Israel events at Columbia’s SIPA, Professor Coatsworth will no doubt be welcomed with open arms by like minded faculty. People like Rashid Khalidi, Joseph Massad and the shame of sister institution Barnard College, Nadia Abu El-Haj

Sic gloria transit my alma mater, Columbia.

Posted by Jerry Gordon @ 5:21 pm

137 observer  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:50:49pm

So when I suggested that Joseph Goebbels would be guest speaker in the Spring Term a couple of days ago in a post here, I didn't realize how morally ch anallengedd mindboggingly stupid today's crop of academic truly can be.
Why, they'd have a forum too, with Stalin, Hitler and Pol Pot if they could. With questions from the audience, natch: "So, Herr Hitler, when you speak of eradicating Europe's Jews, you are speaking metaphorically, of course?"
But then in NYC, they'd send out for food too.
Pol Pot Stickers?

138 bikermailman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:50:53pm

First there was BDS, now we have CDS...people really need to grow up and get a life.

139 Charles  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:51:24pm

re: #132 JammieWearingFool

re: #94 Charles

By the way, the obsessed morons at GCP are still talking about their plans to sabotage LGF, and another one of their accounts was just blocked.

I see they're sifting through the comments today and trashing people.

The behavior is so infantile it's almost unbelievable.

140 The Other Les  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:51:57pm

re: #15 mama winger

This implies that Hitler had legitimacy. That he had ideas worth listening to and considering. That he was a thinker that deserved a forum, and that his plans may have some validity.

To the Left, he did.

141 kafir  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:52:11pm

The mind boggles.

It is way past time for all Columbia supporters to start withholding alumni checks. Columbia alums, these whackjobs are doing damage to your alma mater. You can force a change, and if Columbia is to be anything other than a backwater laughing stock, you need to take action immediately.

Freedom of speech is important. Giving homicidal maniacs a platform from which to speak shows a deep and profound misunderstanding of free speech.

And this is being done with your donations, in your name.

All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to sit idly by.

Evil is in ascendancy at Columbia. Don't sit idly by.

142 pat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:52:23pm

re: #139 Charles

re: #138 bikermailman

CDS, LOL

143 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:52:24pm

One of them said the comments here are so dull and there are no interesting links (then why are they reading them)?

I see more news tips linked here on an average thread than Drudge can get up in a week.

144 observer  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:52:29pm

typo: #137

morally challenged

145 agrosquid  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:53:14pm

re: #76 Charles

It is not a selective quote. Those are the exact words he said.

Sure, he also said "if he were willing to engage in a debate," as anyone can hear for themselves simply by following the link and watching the video. But this in no way changes the meaning of what he said.

Your missing my point. The "plenty of platforms" statement was in deference to Columbia. Hitler would of found many venues such as the League of Nations or a pro-nazi group in the US. He is making a distinction that Columbia would hold him to a higher standard by engaging him in debate.

Of course that won't happen with the Iranian president; the faculty will most likely swoon over him.

146 Midwestprof  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:53:30pm

re: #121 BrooklynRed

Anyone not around or in academia has no idea how bad it really is. I would not believe it myself if I weren't in school right now. The only places that seem not crazy anymore are business schools and hard sciences.

Not coincidentally, guess who makes the most money when they finish? Let me also add, guess who tends to actually finish?

I presume you're including engineering schools with the "hard sciences." A large chunk of my colleagues in the engineering field are ok. However, many in the sciences are fruitcakes, and the few liberal arts profs we have are, for the most part, true lefties.

147 bikermailman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:53:37pm

re: #87 astronmr20

My mother is a Columbia grad. Med school. She's an R.N.


Here was her letter that she copied me on today:

To: secretary@columbia.edu

Dear Sir,

As a past Alumni of Columbia, I am appalled at the University allowing the
president of a terrorist regime to set foot on the campus. It does not
matter how strong your forum will be. He is an enemy of the U.S and
responsible for the death of many of our soldiers fighting for mine and your freedom in this war on terrorism.

It is an abuse of your freedom to sanction a terrorist on the Campus under the guise of a Global Forum, regardless of how strong you or the
International studies dept. feels this will benefit the Campus.

This is a slap in the face of every American, and a degradation of Columbia University.

Neither myself nor my friends who are Alumni will continue to support the University.

Please forward to the President of Columbia and the trustees as I do not
have their e-mail.


Signed sincerely,
(my Mom)

Good for her. I wish that it made a difference. People with this mindset see her, and us, as simply too dumb, too ignorant, too unimportant to see the importance of thier smarter way of seeing things.

148 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:54:02pm

Some Achmedenijad Haiku. Please join me.

A hairy Hobbit,

Fronting for Mullahs to kill Jews.

Khaki is the new black.

149 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:54:22pm

re: #132 JammieWearingFool

re: #94 Charles


By the way, the obsessed morons at GCP are still talking about their plans to sabotage LGF, and another one of their accounts was just blocked.

I see they're sifting through the comments today and trashing people.

As someone with people I consider friends, some I've met in person, at both GCP and LGF, I hope this just dies down, and as I referred to it before, call it a (semi-)amicable divorce.

There is a lot of bitterness on both sides, which is sad, as the average poster at both sites probably agrees on 90% of the issues.

150 bikermailman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:54:42pm

re: #142 pat

re: #139 Charles

re: #138 bikermailman

CDS, LOL

Now, CRS, that's another story. That one, I've had coming on for some time.

151 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:54:53pm

I'm opening a new bottle of Hennessey VSOP to toast to the honor and bravery of Staff Sgt. Chad Malmberg tonight. It's almost 7 in KC, so not to early to start the SNDT.

152 Ojoe  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:54:58pm

How very sad.

153 pat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:55:30pm

I am convinced that more bloggers comment here than any other blog anywhere. The count is enormous. Likely Charles knows an estimate. I am also personally aware of many media monitors that check in here.

154 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:56:01pm

re: #149 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

re: #132 JammieWearingFool


re: #94 Charles

By the way, the obsessed morons at GCP are still talking about their plans to sabotage LGF, and another one of their accounts was just blocked.

I see they're sifting through the comments today and trashing people.

As someone with people I consider friends, some I've met in person, at both GCP and LGF, I hope this just dies down, and as I referred to it before, call it a (semi-)amicable divorce.

There is a lot of bitterness on both sides, which is sad, as the average poster at both sites probably agrees on 90% of the issues.


There are a lot of good threads and good info there. Than there are the threads I avoid, because I'd prefer not to get banned here.

155 Charles  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:56:35pm

re: #145 agrosquid

And it's still not a "selective quote."

156 DP111  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:57:06pm

Twelfth Imam is Coming to Town
By Red Square

[Link: www.thepeoplescube.com...]

And scroll down for some lovely festive hymns.

157 Charles  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:57:29pm

re: #149 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

re: #132 JammieWearingFool

re: #94 Charles

By the way, the obsessed morons at GCP are still talking about their plans to sabotage LGF, and another one of their accounts was just blocked.

I see they're sifting through the comments today and trashing people.
As someone with people I consider friends, some I've met in person, at both GCP and LGF, I hope this just dies down, and as I referred to it before, call it a (semi-)amicable divorce.

There is a lot of bitterness on both sides, which is sad, as the average poster at both sites probably agrees on 90% of the issues.

Sorry, Ed, but you're wrong. I have no bitterness toward those people. I don't even think about them, until they force the issue by this kind of childish, malicious behavior.

158 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:58:12pm

I googled GCP and the first link that came up was to a church.

159 nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:58:23pm

I just sat down to break the fast with all my Jewish democratic liberal relatives. Well I am now hiding in my bedroom trying to recover from the absolute suicidal
outlook of said relatives. All I can say is thank g-d the Yankees won. Oh hum!

160 The Shadow Do  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:58:33pm

re: #100 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

re: #86 The Shadow Do

A couple of suggestions for future forums sure to intellectually stimulate:
Charles Manson
John William "Possum" King

Perhaps there are others

I have no idea who Possum King is, but you read my mind on Charles Manson.

I was going to post that.

Possum King - now on death row in Texas for the brutal murder of James Byrd in Jasper shortly before the 2000 election. It was George Bush's fault of course. Remember the NAACP dragging chains ad? This guy is truly a natural for Columbia.

161 bikermailman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:58:33pm

Charles, let me hereby make a promise: No matter what happens here in the future, no matter if I get turned crossways with you, or any of the other Lizards, I refuse to engage in the childish behavior that has been going on. Furthermore, if perchance if said crosswaysness occurs, and I do manage to act like a little brat, I hereby give any and all of you permission to dig this here promise up and throw it in my face. No kidding.

162 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:58:36pm

re: #149 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

99.9% of the folks here either don't know who they are or give a hoot.

They need to get over it.

163 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:59:32pm

re: #158 SecretInternetDoucheBag

I googled GCP and the first link that came up was to a church.

/quit while you're ahead

164 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 4:59:45pm

This whole shit just sticks in my craw. PERSONALLY.

Iran sens highly trained troops and weapons to kill my brother while he tried his best to help maintain peace in Ramadi

(Luckily, he and his squad dispatched each one that came their way).

Not every American soldier has been so lucky.

165 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:00:32pm

This beggars belief. Is the Dean so blinded by PC idiocy that he truly believes that even Hitler deserves a platform? Or does he just hate everything about his own country so much that he reflexively is in favor of any enemy?

I am ever-more happy to report that back when I was seventeen, I was accepted to Columbia University. And I turned them down. In retrospect, probably one of the best decisions I've ever made.

The list of acceptable colleges for my future kids keeps narrowing. West Point, Annapolis, Colorado Springs...

166 bikermailman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:01:05pm

re: #156 DP111

Twelfth Imam is Coming to Town
By Red Square

[Link: www.thepeoplescube.com...]

And scroll down for some lovely festive hymns.

I love that guy...he called in to Glenn Beck's show a while back. The man came from behind the Iron Curtain, so he Gets It. Funnier'n He11, too.

167 madmama  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:01:28pm

Hey Yank in the Eu....are you still around?
How's it going?
I'm hoping the demonstration against Lil Hitler will be better than in Brussels!
Somehow I doubt it!

168 pat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:01:56pm

re: #158 SecretInternetDoucheBag

Gulf Coast Pundit

It is important to remember that there are good people there. But some others have proven themselves to be filled with hate or are so dogmatic that they are impossible or are angry drunks. Overall it it not a fun siye ,I think, because it is gossip instead of topic.

169 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:02:08pm

The speaker on The Coral Ridge Hour, Dr. Farris (sp?), was no dhimmi. Sorry that I missed the first 2/3.

170 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:02:19pm

And of course I predict nothin' but softball questions for the Members Only maniac, both from 60 Minutes and Columbia U. And this prediction doesn't exactly make me Nostra-frickkin'-damus.

171 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:02:19pm

We are litelally fighting a war with this sick regime, and they get visas and a prime-time spot on American TV.

Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?

172 nevergiveup  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:02:43pm

re: #165 Occasional Reader

This beggars belief. Is the Dean so blinded by PC idiocy that he truly believes that even Hitler deserves a platform? Or does he just hate everything about his own country so much that he reflexively is in favor of any enemy?

I am ever-more happy to report that back when I was seventeen, I was accepted to Columbia University. And I turned them down. In retrospect, probably one of the best decisions I've ever made.

The list of acceptable colleges for my future kids keeps narrowing. West Point, Annapolis, Colorado Springs...

Dam! I was thinking the same thing. Now it will be even tougher to get into one of the academies!

173 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:02:44pm

re: #159 nevergiveup

I just sat down to break the fast with all my Jewish democratic liberal relatives. Well I am now hiding in my bedroom trying to recover from the absolute suicidal
outlook of said relatives. All I can say is thank g-d the Yankees won. Oh hum!


I thought that game would never end.

More good news: KC leads Detroit 5-1.

174 bikermailman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:03:14pm

re: #160 The Shadow Do

re: #100 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet


re: #86 The Shadow Do

A couple of suggestions for future forums sure to intellectually stimulate:
Charles Manson
John William "Possum" King

Perhaps there are others


I have no idea who Possum King is, but you read my mind on Charles Manson.

I was going to post that.


Possum King - now on death row in Texas for the brutal murder of James Byrd in Jasper shortly before the 2000 election. It was George Bush's fault of course. Remember the NAACP dragging chains ad? This guy is truly a natural for Columbia.

The funny thing of that one was, they gave Bush a hard time for not supporting hate crime laws. IIRC, he came back with something like 'he's getting the death penalty, what more do you want to happen to him?'

Possum Kingdom, however....heckuva lake.

175 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:03:17pm

On a totally unrelated topic, but the talk about people at different blogs not getting along...


If the Western half of Virginia stayed loyal to the United States during the Civil War (or, as some Texans refer to it as (no, really), 'The War of Northern Aggression'), and the Union won the war, why isn't West Virginia called 'Virginia', and what we call Virginia called "South Virginia" or "East Virginia"?

176 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:04:13pm

re: #168 pat

It's also very slow and inactive compared to LGF, but in fairness, a whirling dervish compared to CZ's blog and LGF Watch.

177 Kyle_st  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:04:33pm

Could this be a "know thy enemy" sort of thing?

178 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:04:59pm

re: #177 Kyle_st

Could what be?

179 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:05:21pm

re: #175 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

and what we call Virginia called "South Virginia" or "East Virginia"?

I'd proposed just calling the whole thing "Greater Metropolitan Washington, DC".

180 pat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:05:23pm

re: #176 cbinflux

I haven't done my annual trip to LGF watch yet. Last time I was there it had 12 people on line. And that was busy hour.

181 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:06:06pm

re: #179 Occasional Reader

HELL NO!

(:

182 pat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:06:50pm

re: #180 pat

1000 paper cuts had a 1,350 visitor day! Pretty good for a start up.

183 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:06:54pm

MOm is a poophead.

184 DaMav  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:07:22pm

Columbia should be renamed Genocide Tech.

185 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:07:26pm

re: #181 astronmr20

re: #179 Occasional Reader

HELL NO!

(:

"Outer Beltway", then? "I-66 Scenery"?

(I kid the Commonwealth)

186 bikermailman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:07:28pm

Ed, even though we call it the 'Civil War', the proper name for it would be 'War Between the States' or 'War or Secession'. A civil war, by definition, is where two factions are fighting for control of the same government and territory. This war was of several states to seceed from the Union, and form their own country, not fitting the definition. But, I'm guessing you already knew all this.

187 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:07:42pm

re: #179 Occasional Reader

re: #175 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet


and what we call Virginia called "South Virginia" or "East Virginia"?

I'd proposed just calling the whole thing "Greater Metropolitan Washington, DC".

Hell no I live in this area and hate DC. Only time you go there is during the day to visit the monuments, as soon as the sun goes down you better get the hell outa dodge unless you want to get mugged or shot. I got pulled over there for being white once. Very ironic.

188 pat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:07:51pm

re: #183 MandyManners

That is not a nice thing to say. LOL

189 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:08:23pm

re: #14 brakes

What's he trying to prove?

Liberals right.

Ideas are not dangerous.

190 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:09:05pm

re: #180 pat

re: #176 cbinflux

I haven't done my annual trip to LGF watch yet. Last time I was there it had 12 people on line. And that was busy hour.

BC (before Chen)?

191 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:10:20pm

OT: Euroweenie Accuses Canada of Genocide .... but he didn't mean that kind of genocide....

192 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:11:56pm
193 Paul  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:12:00pm

Don't buy Columbia's new found respect for the First Amendment and its sudden commitment open and frank discussion and the exchange of ideas. As soon as Ahmadinejad is gone, the "progressive" moonbats will be back shouting down and mobbing any conservative speaker or anyone who challenges or even questions their campus hegemony.

194 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:12:00pm

re: #186 bikermailman

Ed, even though we call it the 'Civil War', the proper name for it would be 'War Between the States' or 'War or Secession'. A civil war, by definition, is where two factions are fighting for control of the same government and territory. This war was of several states to seceed from the Union, and form their own country, not fitting the definition. But, I'm guessing you already knew all this.


Yes. In my opinion, if the Southern states had voted for secession, and organized a government, and then through diplomatic channels requested the withdrawl of Union outposts throughout the Southern US, they would have been completely within the US Constitution as it existed at the time.


BTW, Sam Houston, Texas hero, as governor, opposed secession, but when it was inevitable, preferring not to join the CSA, proposed secession back to an independent Republic, as it has been after the defeat of Mexico at San Jacinto. But the Texas legislature demanded all office holders sign an oath of loyalty to the CSA, Houston refused, and was impeached and removed from office as governor of Texas.

195 Bubbaman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:12:15pm

I wonder if they would be so forthcoming if Bush or Cheney wanted to speak. I could only imagine the reaction! These Columbia creatures are despicable.

196 xenophobic  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:12:16pm

#94 Charles
One of the reasons I never used to comment here was because of 90% of the GCP crowd - every open registration became a 'troll hunt' where newbies with opinions they didn't agree with got trounced - The Friday open thread was a place the clique would get together to collectively slam anyone they didn't like, and if they couldn't get the person to leave by attacking them on every thread then they would call for your ban stick.
When not hiding behind their moral authority of having an account the longest, they would always be whining about someone they didn't like ruining LGF. They thought they were the life of the party at LGF, and that it wouldn't survive without them. Well it did.


Three posts on GCP frontpage about LGF -- they're getting as creepy and obsessive as lgfwatch.

197 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:12:19pm

re: #32 pat

And so, their graduates are in (MSM) like Flynn.

198 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:12:21pm

re: #182 pat

re: #180 pat

1000 paper cuts had a 1,350 visitor day! Pretty good for a start up.

Whose site is that?

199 RTLM  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:14:20pm

The Columbia nitwits are treating this Fascist as a member of their "community of ideas and understanding". There is a war on against his ideology and these libtards are fawning all over this visibly insane Theocrat.
He'd willingly order any/every one of them hanged - as they nod vacantly while he addresses them.

200 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:15:04pm

OT, if you have Fox Sports Southwest


Even accounting for alumni bias, there are some fine looking women attending The University of Texas.

201 gettinby  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:15:39pm

Now, certainly I'm not one of the substance-posts posters here (though I continue to learn and attempt it), and I try to stay out of matters that are none of my business....

But, LGF is important to ALL of us...for all the right reasons, imho.

So...regarding the GCP/AtS/"Others" dealie, I have ONE question.

If they did not have LGF to talk about, then what would they talk about?

202 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:16:06pm

re: #43 towerclimber37

he was nominated, never awarded a NPP.

203 pat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:16:19pm

re: #198 JammieWearingFool

[Link: deathby1000papercuts.blogspot.com...]

Ginn and Mondoreb, from here. With contributions from BabbaZee, Trigger Girlie and ,ahem, once me. They had a big hit day. Leave a comment for them.

204 The Other Les  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:16:29pm

This is a demonstration of the bankruptcy of multiculturalism.

205 Bob's Kid  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:17:48pm
The Ivory Tower has turned into an insane asylum.

I really really really want to say that I am surprised by this, but once again, I cannot.

How bad does it have to get before people just start saying NO MORE?

Evidently much worse than Hitler.

206 NY Nana  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:19:23pm

re: #134 SecretInternetDoucheBag

You really would not want to infect your computer with their hate virus. Trust me.

207 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:20:17pm

Blackwater has issued an official denial regarding the arms smuggling investigation.

208 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:22:01pm

re: #196 xenophobic

I've posted over there too, but I stopped once things got weird. I don't even like reading over there. They still seem to spend a lot of time reading our comments and talking about people they don't like.
I'd rather the situation just go away but they seem interested in keeping it alive.

209 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:23:02pm

Well I only figured out a month or so ago who all the people were, and I"m still not sure.. I tend not to pay attention to cliques and have a policy that everyone's my friend until they prove otherwise.

Have noticed a couple things since then... less rancorous BDS, less pessimism, less "we are all doomed no matter what" mentality.

210 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:23:12pm

18Z GFDL predicts 45 mph minimal tropical storm to hit South Padre Island, where I never got drunk, much to my regret, in college

This is Tropical Disturbance #94L getting ready to cross the Yucatan.

May never develop at all, may become a weak TS, but, after a very rainy summer, no rain since Humberto, and my yard needs rain, so even an undeveloped African wave is ok by me.

211 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:23:19pm

Snatched: Israeli commandos ‘nuclear’ raid

ISRAELI commandos from the elite Sayeret Matkal unit – almost certainly dressed in Syrian uniforms – made their way stealthily towards a secret military compound near Dayr az-Zawr in northern Syria. They were looking for proof that Syria and North Korea were collaborating on a nuclear programme.

/more details

212 Occasional Reader  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:23:22pm

re: #187 SecretInternetDoucheBag

as soon as the sun goes down you better get the hell outa dodge unless you want to get mugged or shot

I'd, ah, gently suggest that your picture of DC is a little distorted. I've somehow managed to survive living here 16 years (off and on) without getting mugged or shot.

213 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:23:29pm
214 towerclimber37  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:23:45pm

re: #202 cbinflux

re: #43 towerclimber37

he was nominated, never awarded a NPP.


I get the feeling if coatsworth had anything to do with it, ahmadootypacket would get nominated as well...

215 RTLM  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:23:57pm

re: #207 Thanos

I believe the Dems have a new strategy for US defeat in Iraq.

Remove Blackwater from their State security roles and backfilling with active Special Ops. Taking them out of the theater where they are having the most effect. Putting ever more pressure on the front line troops.

Despicable

216 DP111  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:26:12pm

Just to whet LGF appetite

Give me nails in my bomb, keep me splodin' splodin' splodin',
Give me nails in my bomb I pray, Ally Akbar
Give me nails in my bomb, keep me splodin' splodin' splodin'
Keep me splodin' in that Jew café.
Sing, Osama, Sing Osama, Sing Osama, till the pigs have wings
Sing, Osama, Sing Osama, Sing until those pigs have wings.

[Link: www.thepeoplescube.com...]

More on site.

I normally finish the day by going to this site and having a good laugh.

217 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:26:24pm

re: #213 savage_nation

I'm afraid we're just encouraging them by talking about it so I'll put the topic to rest.

218 markx  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:26:46pm

re: #6 mama winger

Higher education is highly over-rated.

Two words :

Technical college.

Well.......

There are good private colleges out there. I daughter goes to a church affiliated small university. It's good and expensive, about twice as much as our state university.

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

219 NY Nana  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:27:24pm

re: #168 pat

Not gossip, Pat...unadulterated hate and envy of Charles, and LGF. They are LGF Watch lite.

I don't remember anything even half as bad when I was in Grade 6. I posted there and learned just what they can do, especially to a very loved lizard who was knifed in the back on a Fourth of July weekend. He also knew a group of them personally. A bunch of us left in disgust and 20/20 hindsight.

And there are some people signed up from here over there that shocked me.

220 Carol Herman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:27:32pm

re: #207 Thanos

Blackwater has issued an official denial regarding the arms smuggling investigation.


I'm glad you posted this! I sure hope Charles opens a thread to discuss what's going on in Irak. Today, at Iraq The Model, Omar posted that Maliki's government is sliding out from under him; and the coalition is breaking up.

When Maliki went after Blackwater, I saw this as an act of desperation.

I also think Maliki wanted to see Ambassador Crocker, and his convoy, blown sky high on the streets of Baghdad.

Meanwhile? Bush ain't playing with the Shia. Pretty much everyone's on base, and out of the business of patrolling. The Shia, who did not get any of the "surge" benefits ... which are designed to give the sunni's survival skills; to say the least ...

Is the stuff we really should be watching more closely.

221 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:27:50pm

re: #217 Killgore Trout

I'm afraid we're just encouraging them by talking about it so I'll put the topic to rest.

/if a tree falls in the forest . . .

222 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:28:38pm

re: #215 RTLM

re: #207 Thanos

I believe the Dems have a new strategy for US defeat in Iraq.

Remove Blackwater from their State security roles and backfilling with active Special Ops. Taking them out of the theater where they are having the most effect. Putting ever more pressure on the front line troops.

Despicable


Yes it is the new strategy -- chip away at the support, without taking the vote they should in Congress if they really want us out.

and right now the hounds are in full bay

DKOS: Blackwater should be tortured in Guantanamo

223 kcladderman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:28:47pm

re: #215 RTLM

re: #207 Thanos

I believe the Dems have a new strategy for US defeat in Iraq.

Remove Blackwater from their State security roles and backfilling with active Special Ops. Taking them out of the theater where they are having the most effect. Putting ever more pressure on the front line troops.

Despicable


There are in Fact several Security Contractors working in Iraq Right now. Black is of course the largest and most talked about but I am sure if they are forced to leave the other company's will be more than happy to take the business

224 markx  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:29:38pm

re: #65 Carol Herman


Hilter passes the Columbia "smell test." What were they smelling?

They can't smell.

When you live in a pigsty, you can't smell pig sh*t.

225 Lauraf  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:30:12pm

re: #66 Yank in the EU

Allowing Hitler -- or Ahmadinejad -- to speak at an US university would be an abomination. By this, it is as if they have speech fit to be heard in decent / civilized society and a viewpoint that merits our hosting and legitimation. It is sheer weakness and complicity in the evil by Columbia. Hitlers and Mahmouds can speak well enough from their own totalitarian, brutalized nations. Treating genocidal, sworn enemies and state sponsors of terror as though they are legitimate actors in the public and political spheres, whose speechs we ought to host and have respectful dialogue with, is categorically wrong. That is no way to treat true evil and thuggery.

They also speak more honestly from those venues, and I doubt that most of Dinnerjacket's Columbia audience will be aware of what he says at home.

226 pat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:30:31pm

re: #219 NY Nana

Ahh. You have inadvertently explained a mystery to me.

227 Strike Hornet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:31:14pm

re: #34 ZionistYoungster

Hi lizardot and lizardim,

I know as well as any of us how depressing that can be, and, before I go hit the sack, I'd just like to bring a post of mine I wrote long ago (in blogging terms; December 20, 2006, to be accurate) as a cautious consolation about the future:

Potentially A Great Generation

I hope I'm right in that post; in any case, seeing all those pieces that make you feel like tearing your hair out, I wanted to do my part in bringing a little optimism.

Good night, lizards.

Thank you for that outstanding read...I have forwarded the link to many who will enjoy your wisdom...

228 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:31:30pm
229 markx  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:31:45pm

re: #63 SecretInternetDoucheBag

This guy should go on Bill Mauhers show.

I don't know about that, but he would be perfect for Bill Maher's show.


j/k

230 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:31:52pm

BTW, Texas is playing Rice. A Division 1 football school with less than 3,000 students.


Gotta respect that, when schools like Texas State University-San Marcos have almost seven times the enrollment, and doesn't play the big boys.

I think even John F Kennedy, expressed admiration for Texas playing Rice.


BTW, not even 20 years ago, at the height of Texas' footballs decline, Rice beat Texas. That would normally be an Appy State-Michigan upset, but during the McWilliams and Mackovich years Texas had several 6-5 and 5-6 seasons.

231 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:32:29pm

For your earlholes....


Masala - Od Tarnobrzegu po Bangladesz

Polish Hip-hop meets Bollywood!

232 ibrodsky  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:32:32pm

OT: Israel seized North Korean nuke material in Syrian raid

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

233 NY Nana  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:32:46pm

re: #213 savage_nation

A common occurrence...a barf bag is advisable..if you want to go look again.

re: #217 Killgore Trout

re: #213 savage_nation

I'm afraid we're just encouraging them by talking about it so I'll put the topic to rest.

I will. too, Killgore. You are right. It is just that Jheka and all his sockpuppets, along with others who are banned, and theirs? Detestable. But we already knew that.

234 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:33:35pm
235 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:34:46pm

re: #188 pat

The Kid got on my computer while I was doing dishes.

236 NY Nana  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:35:07pm

re: #226 pat

There is more, a lot more, but not for posting. Killgore is right.

I left my email blue...

237 Charles  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:35:16pm

re: #217 Killgore Trout

Right -- that's Stalking 101. The stalker is excited by acknowledgement.

238 Oh no...Sand People!  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:35:24pm

Late to the party, and only have time for a Drive By Comment...

I fell asleep in America and have woken up in PC Moral Relativism land...Can I have my Thundercats, Transformers, Ghostbusters, Smurfs, looney toons, and Gummy Bears back on Saturday morning, and weekly afternoons? That was a time when things seemed right to me and I was living in blissful ignorance...

When people/towns/city's/states/nations have no compass or principle, but simple secular cold pseudo-academia it is time for something to be done...I wonder if I want my ignorance back...but alas, there is a fight to fight and we need to step up.

Have as good a weekend as is possible giving the state of things...bye.

239 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:35:34pm

re: #230 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

BTW, Texas is playing Rice. A Division 1 football school with less than 3,000 students.


Gotta respect that, when schools like Texas State University-San Marcos have almost seven times the enrollment, and doesn't play the big boys.

I think even John F Kennedy, expressed admiration for Texas playing Rice.


BTW, not even 20 years ago, at the height of Texas' footballs decline, Rice beat Texas. That would normally be an Appy State-Michigan upset, but during the McWilliams and Mackovich years Texas had several 6-5 and 5-6 seasons.


Just mentioned, the Rice team doctors were all Rice grads who played on the football team.

240 NY Nana  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:36:05pm

re: #235 MandyManners

Honest Injun? :)

241 pat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:36:43pm

re: #234 savage_nation

She is gorgeous. i got a lot of flak for defending her, pointing out she got classic stage fright. But then others, including a lot of conservatives, have come forward and said the same thing. She melted under pressure and was able to laugh it off. A real sweetheart.

242 markx  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:36:51pm

re: #115 Killian Bundy

Israelis seized nuclear material in Syrian raid

Israeli commandos seized nuclear material of North Korean origin during a daring raid on a secret military site in Syria before Israel bombed it this month, according to informed sources in Washington and Jerusalem.

The attack was launched with American approval on September 6 after Washington was shown evidence the material was nuclear related, the well-placed sources say.

They confirmed that samples taken from Syria for testing had been identified as North Korean. This raised fears that Syria might have joined North Korea and Iran in seeking to acquire nuclear weapons.

/big brass balls

Yup, and no wonder Syria has been relatively quiet about it. If the IDF can seize nuclear material from what has to be one of the most secure sites in Syria. Then they can pretty much go and do anything, anywhere in Syria.

I'm sure Bashar al-Assad has difficulty sleeping.

243 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:37:02pm

OT
The ‘carbon offset’ child labourers
Indians work off West’s holiday guilt

244 NY Nana  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:37:55pm

re: #234 savage_nation

ROTFL! Hmmm, you are probably right.

245 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:37:57pm
247 RTLM  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:38:52pm

re: #242 markx

Not to mention the deafening silence from Iran.

248 bikermailman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:38:58pm

re: #230 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

BTW, Texas is playing Rice. A Division 1 football school with less than 3,000 students.


Gotta respect that, when schools like Texas State University-San Marcos have almost seven times the enrollment, and doesn't play the big boys.

I think even John F Kennedy, expressed admiration for Texas playing Rice.


BTW, not even 20 years ago, at the height of Texas' footballs decline, Rice beat Texas. That would normally be an Appy State-Michigan upset, but during the McWilliams and Mackovich years Texas had several 6-5 and 5-6 seasons.

I've always had a soft spot for Rice. Small school, they keep emphasis on academics, for their athletes as well. Academically, it's always rated as one of the best in the country, as well as a best for the money. I looked into going there when I was in HS. I decided that while I could get in, I probably would have never managed to stay in.

249 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:40:45pm

re: #242 markx

I'm sure Bashar al-Assad has difficulty sleeping.

Can't get Nancy off his mind... Lucky she found the dong nukes while she was kissy-facing him, huh?

250 Stuck-in-CA  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:40:47pm

will they be giving the diminutive monster an honorary degree too?

251 pat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:40:51pm

re: #235 MandyManners

LOL. Little tyke is almost as colorful as mom.

252 Outrider  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:40:53pm

re: #32 pat

Of course this may seem good and well in a vacuum, but this University, and i use the term loosely, does not allow army recruiters, has no ROTC, has harassed Christian clubs unmercifully, is openly anti-Israel and pro-Islam, takes money from Saudi Arabia and operates the most liberal and useless journalism school in the Nation, a school that is a disgrace to news reporting


Strangely enough, most of them do not consider themselves leftists or ultra liberal, feeling instead they are mainstream and moderate. They work with others like them, socialize with others like them, and only associate with others that feel as they do. They don't feel they are to the left of the political spectrum as everyone they know or deal with are of the same school of thought. The very few people they encounter that are the slightest bit to the right of the spectrum are thought to be anomalies and radicals.
These same people feel the MSM are in fact too conservative in their points of view, not liberal; which is why they find FOX News so radically to the Right in their viewpoint. This perspective obviously carries over in all phases of their social and business life.

253 Thanos  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:41:39pm

The DKOS comments on Blackwater get so many things so egregiously wrong that it's ridiculous. To discuss or correct them here though would only allow them to re-tune their attack, so I'm not going to do it.

254 LSD  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:41:56pm

#232

They confirmed that samples taken from Syria for testing had been identified as North Korean. This raised fears that Syria might have joined North Korea and Iran in seeking to acquire nuclear weapons.

Glad they got proof ...

255 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:43:14pm

re: #241 pat

"Gorgeous."

Who cares?

Can we cast off the superficial bullshit in this lifetime?


Although I agree with you about the stage fright; she's young and it could have happened to anyone.

256 SeafoodGumbo  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:43:22pm

No Place at the Table

In November of 1998, Columbia University President George Rupp dispatched a team of security guards to keep students interested in a conservative conference from meeting on campus. Participants in Accuracy in Academia's "A Place at the Table: Conservative Ideas in Higher Education" learned that only liberals have a place at Columbia's table when their meeting was kicked off-campus and forced to reconvene in a park. This, despite the fact that a contract had been signed, the meeting space had been paid for, and the event had been planned three months in advance. A mob of activists protested the event, which featured Ward Connerly, and shouted down author Dinesh D'Souza as he attempted to speak in an alcove overlooking Morningside Park. Chanting "Ha! Ha! You're Outside, We Don't Want Your Racist Lies," demonstrators held up signs bragging of their accomplishment, which read ACCESS DENIED and WE WIN: RACISTS NOT ALLOWED AT COLUMBIA. "This is an alcove where homeless people sleep and piss," student Franklin Amoo stated. "I'll do whatever needs to be done [to stop the conference] in order to make sure they know their sentiments are not shared." Salmon Rushdie, Khalid Muhammed, and Angela Davis have all spoken on the New York campus without "security" concerns trumping free speech rights. Yet the only instance of a conservative event on the campus in recent memory elicits a ban handed down by the school's president, who happens to be an outspoken advocate of racial preferences.
257 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:43:23pm

re: #248 bikermailman

re: #230 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet


BTW, Texas is playing Rice. A Division 1 football school with less than 3,000 students.


Gotta respect that, when schools like Texas State University-San Marcos have almost seven times the enrollment, and doesn't play the big boys.

I think even John F Kennedy, expressed admiration for Texas playing Rice.


BTW, not even 20 years ago, at the height of Texas' footballs decline, Rice beat Texas. That would normally be an Appy State-Michigan upset, but during the McWilliams and Mackovich years Texas had several 6-5 and 5-6 seasons.


I've always had a soft spot for Rice. Small school, they keep emphasis on academics, for their athletes as well. Academically, it's always rated as one of the best in the country, as well as a best for the money. I looked into going there when I was in HS. I decided that while I could get in, I probably would have never managed to stay in.


Last year they actually played in a bowl game. Ok, the mid-December R&L Carriers New Orleans Bowl against Troy State, but still. Their football players are real students, many are on athletic scholarships but there are no 'Parks & Recreation' or 'Kineseology' degree programs there.


Of course, with less than 1500 male undergrads, anyone with good grades, not football scholarship material, but decent on the HS team, the walk on 'Rudy' thing is very possible.

258 Carol Herman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:43:33pm

re: #250 Stuck-in-CA

will they be giving the diminutive monster an honorary degree too?

Will they be playing the chorus, Springtime For Hitler, as he walks to the stage, and climbs up on the phone books behind the podium, so he can be seen?

259 Carol Herman  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:44:15pm

GCP "seems" to hold meaning for some. To me? Grand Central Parkway.

But what else could it mean?

260 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:44:16pm

re: #254 LSD

I'd say that this little black op, if nothing else in Isaeli history, has put them on the side of Right.

No one seems to care, though.

261 pat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:44:41pm

re: #255 astronmr20

I am not going to an Ugly Pageant. And you can't make me.

262 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:45:07pm
263 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:45:44pm

re: #245 savage_nation

That one came from Boing-Boing.

264 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:47:12pm

Che Guevara's children visit Iran

Two children of Marxist revolutionary Ernesto "Che" Guevara are visiting Iran and are due to meet with top officials, the student ISNA news agency reported on Saturday.

/bizzaro world

265 Stuck-in-CA  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:48:12pm

re: #254 LSD

#232


They confirmed that samples taken from Syria for testing had been identified as North Korean. This raised fears that Syria might have joined North Korea and Iran in seeking to acquire nuclear weapons.

Glad they got proof ...

uh oh, I feel a strongly worded letter from the UN coming on!

266 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:48:47pm
267 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:49:23pm

re: #242 markx

I'm sure Bashar al-Assad has difficulty sleeping.

/especially when Israeli jets fly low over his compound at supersonic speed

268 NY Nana  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:49:32pm

re: #231 Killgore Trout

How about some Jewish rappers?

269 Lauraf  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:49:54pm

re: #265 Stuck-in-CA

re: #254 LSD


#232

They confirmed that samples taken from Syria for testing had been identified as North Korean. This raised fears that Syria might have joined North Korea and Iran in seeking to acquire nuclear weapons.

Glad they got proof ...

uh oh, I feel a strongly worded letter from the UN coming on!

Don't count on it. Syria has just been appointed co-chair of the IAEA!

270 pat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:50:14pm

re: #262 savage_nation

Yeah. She was on The Today Show and I think a Fox program. Also local TV. She did very well. Pointed out that she has no idea what she was talking about and laughed. I think her place, the final 5 and second in scores just came over her at exactly the wrong time. As it was she still came in 4th.

271 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:51:20pm

re: #261 pat

re: #255 astronmr20

I am not going to an Ugly Pageant. And you can't make me.

I'm not going to any pageant.

And I used to date the 4th runner up in Miss Universe 1998.

272 SeafoodGumbo  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:51:24pm

I don't think I've seen if mentioned, but Columbia is where that traitorous professor Nicholas DeGenova teaches...the one who hoped our troops would face a "million Mogadishus."

273 astronmr20  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:51:41pm

re: #266 savage_nation

re: #264 Killian Bundy

Che Guevara's children visit Iran
Two children of Marxist revolutionary Ernesto "Che" Guevara are visiting Iran and are due to meet with top officials, the student ISNA news agency reported on Saturday.
/bizzaro world
Can they go to Bolivia for some R&R?

Creepy.

274 MrAndMrsSmith  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:51:47pm

re: #115 Killian Bundy

OK. 'Nuff said. Time to ramp up the pressure on all three. Cut off NorK deal for humanitarian aid and fuel. Blockade the Straits for Iran, and let Israel bomb Assad back to the Stone Age (not much of a difference from where they are now).

Forget showing any of the evidence to the UN. They're anti-Semitic at heart, and wouldn't buy anything the Israelis presented. Ban ki-Moon? At this point, he's synonymous with Kooky Uncle Kofi, and that's not just on this issue. He's doing his best to stall/thwart any investigation into the counterfeit money still being peddled by Kim "I'm so ronery" Jong-Il. And he doesn't even want to address the continuing sexual abuse by UN peacekeepers.

If only we didn't have the utterly retarded restriction on assassination. Not that I'm condoning or calling for such an action, but imagine these tyrant tykes if THAT option were on our table, in addition to levying war on them.

"We have no intention of invading Iran; FLATTENING it, yes, but not invasion." -- Thomas Clark, May 2007

275 LSD  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:52:04pm

re: #269 Lauraf

Don't count on it. Syria has just been appointed co-chair of the IAEA!

Up is Down ...

276 ec marm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:53:09pm

re: #231 Killgore Trout
You always like these kind of articles:

House for sale, statue of St Joseph included
With the US housing market in crisis, vendors are turning for help to St Joseph, patron saint of home sellers.
Agence France-Presse reports that vendors bury a statue of St. Joseph in the garden of a property they want to sell, and then beseech him to intervene on their behalf to find a buyer.


Mine is buried in the front yard. I'm beginning to lose faith. Maybe if Alan Greenspan (pbuh) would shut the hell up about housing values dropping either further, I 'd feel better.

277 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:53:17pm
278 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:53:41pm

re: #268 NY Nana

See also: Matisyahu - King Without A Crown

It's a classic.

279 markx  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:53:45pm

re: #249 cbinflux

Yeah, it's been rumored al-Assad has No Dong.

/sophomoric humor

MarkX couldn't help himself

280 pat  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:54:38pm

re: #272 SeafoodGumbo

The good professor must have missed Blackhawk Down. 23 dead Americans, 1,000 Somalis. Moron likely thinks we lost Tet too.

281 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:55:54pm

re: #240 NY Nana

Yep. He was a bit peeved because I'd lectured him about something and he took it out on me on the computer.

282 Maine's Michael  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:56:05pm
he’d find “plenty of platforms from which to speak.”

Probably been said, but Amadinejad will need an extra tall one.

283 MrAndMrsSmith  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:56:07pm

re: #279 MarkX

Kim Jong-Il is exporting sex toys now for those that are deficient?

284 Killgore Trout  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:56:07pm

re: #276 ec marm

Special kits includes a small statue of the saint, a brief history of St Joseph, and an instruction book on how to bury him.

The Pope can't possibly find that to be Kosher.

285 NY Nana  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:57:08pm

re: #277 savage_nation

Oh, wow! I remember that one. BTW ,which one is you? :)

286 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:57:31pm

Iran promises missiles will fly if US attacks

Iran has threatened to retaliate with missile attacks if Western forces launch raids against the Islamic state's nuclear programme — putting on a defiant show of military force to back up the message.

The Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, addressed a military parade in Teheran and mocked threats from the United States, while the head of the Revolutionary Guards said Iran would "pull the trigger" if attacked.

You know, I'm getting really tired of this [expletive deleted].

/let's just get it over with, sooner rather than later

287 ec marm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:57:56pm

re: #284 Killgore Trout

The Pope can't possibly find that to be Kosher.

Is that an example of a mixed metaphor?

288 Mich-again  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:58:20pm

These just-released pictures of SS officers at Aushwitz yucking it up on their day off are good context for this thread. Unbelievable.

289 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:59:06pm

re: #280 pat

1,000 Somalis.

/that's an extremely low estimate

290 cbinflux  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:59:21pm

re: #284 Killgore Trout

Nomination:

The Pope can't possibly find that to be Kosher.
291 Stuck-in-CA  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:59:46pm

re: #258 Carol Herman

re: #250 Stuck-in-CA


will they be giving the diminutive monster an honorary degree too?

Will they be playing the chorus, Springtime For Hitler, as he walks to the stage, and climbs up on the phone books behind the podium, so he can be seen?

now THAT would make YouTube.

292 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 5:59:48pm
293 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:00:24pm

re: #33 agrosquid

I saw this on FOX and remember the "plenty of platforms" as not being Columbia. He prefaced saying that he could of spoken at Columbia provided he was willing to face the scrunity of the faculty; whatever that's worth. But, I do think that's a bit of a selective quote there, Charles.

have

294 MrAndMrsSmith  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:00:38pm

Re: #286 Killian Bundy

Ahmadinejad may be nuttier than a fruticake (or possibly fruitier than a nutcake) but he can't possibly be so barking moonbat stupid to play chicken with one nuke.

Oh, let me count the ways we could turn his nation into a parking lot for future Iraqi execs ....

295 NY Nana  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:04:14pm

re: #281 MandyManners

He is too bright, Mandy. What an innocent world my kids grew up in...no computers.

My 7 year old granddaughter did it verbally...to my son..'poopyface'...I'll email it later. Still laughing! My son could not keep a straight face.

And the Drama Queen also informed her parents that she is the only one who doesn't have a Halloween costume yet..did it with a straight face, too.

296 ec marm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:04:20pm

Iran reveals new high speed drone. Picture.

Iran Manufactures High-Speed Drone

TEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- Iranian defense industries succeeded in building a Radar-evading drone with the speed of 700 km per hour, a senior Iranian army official said Saturday.

Deputy commander of the General Staff of Armed Forces for logistics and research, Mohammad Reza Naghdi told a press conference here today that that the high-speed drone jet 'Shahed' can be used for different purposes, specially for reconnaissance operations.

Former commander-in-chief of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) Major General Yahya Rahim Safavi earlier said that the pilotless jet would be utilized for reconnaissance operations and for gathering information and dispatching images.

Safavi also said that the form and building material of the drone provide it with an opportunity to evade Radar waves and enemy fire, adding that the large-scale production of the plane had started and that it could now be used even for operations.

297 Stuck-in-CA  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:04:55pm

re: #268 NY Nana

re: #231 Killgore Trout

How about some Jewish rappers?

Ohmigod! I haven't laughed that hard in days. Dr. Drek! LOL

298 mikeysdca  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:05:10pm

Why not? Catch his act.

As to I'mANutJob, as Leno called him, when has he ever spoken in public and not made an absolute ass of himself?

299 Killian Bundy  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:06:23pm

Launch the attack while the odious gnome is in New York

/bonus points

300 MandyManners  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:09:02pm

re: #251 pat

Yep. He's a lot like me.

301 gymnast  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:09:09pm

re: #296 ec marm

Iran reveals new high speed drone. Picture.


Iran Manufactures High-Speed DroneTEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- Iranian defense industries succeeded in building a Radar-evading drone with the speed of 700 km per hour, a senior Iranian army official said Saturday.

Deputy commander of the General Staff of Armed Forces for logistics and research, Mohammad Reza Naghdi told a press conference here today that that the high-speed drone jet 'Shahed' can be used for different purposes, specially for reconnaissance operations.

Former commander-in-chief of the Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) Major General Yahya Rahim Safavi earlier said that the pilotless jet would be utilized for reconnaissance operations and for gathering information and dispatching images.

Safavi also said that the form and building material of the drone provide it with an opportunity to evade Radar waves and enemy fire, adding that the large-scale production of the plane had started and that it could now be used even for operations.

That drone in the picture has a reciprocating engine and a propeller and in not capable of the above mentioned speeds.

302 NY Nana  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:09:56pm

re: #292 savage_nation

You mean this isn't you?

[hard to type when I'm hiding under the computer table!]

303 NY Nana  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:10:33pm

re: #297 Stuck-in-CA

There are more videos...hilarious.

304 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:12:18pm
305 NY Nana  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:12:31pm

re: #288 Mich-again

I wish I had not looked...and there is a new thread, also with a photo. Even over 60 years later, I still can't take it.

306 BrooklynRed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:14:22pm

re: #146 Midwestprof

Yes, you're correct. Engineering tends to be pretty rational.

I guess my hard science generalization might be a little off. You are also correct that there are some wacky science folks. But my general impression is that these departments at least have some balance (politically); perhaps more importantly, everything is not about politics in those departments!

Liberal arts are worthless now. I was a liberal arts student and had to go back to get some real skills to support myself. Of course, maybe that's the problem - I have actually worked in the real world and not been isolated in the ivory tower my whole life.

307 siiras  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:18:04pm

American university presidents and other progressives demonstrate the kind of open-mindedness where their brains have fallen out.

It would be laughable if they weren't endangering all of us by enabling the enemy and encouraging him to think that we are all so suicidally stupid.

308 bonz  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:18:56pm
309 Conserve Liberty  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:20:18pm

re: #50 Promethea

In "Reveille for Radicals" Saul Alinsky, father of '30's unionism and radical change agent, writes of education, "In the last analysis the objective for which any democratic movement must strive is the ultimate objective implicit within democracy - popular education. . . . The Organization is convinced that when people get to know one another as human beings instead of as symbols or statistics, a human relationship - carrying with it a full constellation of human attitudes - will inevitably result."

Note that the concept democratic refers to direct involvement in the political process, not the constitutional republic that we in the US currently mislabel democracy.

Also note that Hilda wrote her Masters' Thesis (which disappeared from the reference room shelves during the first term) on the means to bring Alinsky's vision to reality.

Destroying traditional identity groups, intentionally misstating facts, refusing to honor ordered meritocracies - all the things we comment here - all of them are part of a long term strategy to wrest power and control from the individual - to destroy individual liberty - and convey it to the group, the "Organization," the State.

Hosting Ahmadinejad is at once a paean to Alinksy and a weapon, turning the strength of the institution (free thought at a University) back against itself. This use of the strength of an enemy against it is the principal weapon espoused by the radical.

310 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:21:20pm
311 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:22:42pm
312 Conserve Liberty  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:22:49pm

re: #276 ec marm

re: #231 Killgore Trout

House for sale, statue of St Joseph included

Mine is buried in the front yard. I'm beginning to lose faith.

Did you bury him head-down? Worked for me - and I'm a Protestant! Had to go to Catholic Supply to get him!

313 NY Nana  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:23:03pm

re: #304 savage_nation

You are certainly bright enough to have been a nerd...no, you would never be a Bill Gates, thankfully.

314 Pdogg  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:24:09pm

In the 1930s, Columbia University, denied many Jews entry because of the "Jewish Quota." Only a small amount of Jews were allowed in. One Jew in particular who was rejected under the Jewish Quota was a man named Richard Feynman. He instead went to MIT. This man later worked on the Manhattan Project and got a Nobel Prize in Physics.

Columbia has a long history of intolerance. What's most telling is how happy this dean was when fantasizing about Hitler. This institutions claims it's progressive yet it never changes.

315 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:25:45pm
316 AmeriCAN  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:25:53pm

"Hate of America" is the new drug for these 60"s dizzy-spinners afraid that doing coke...etc, will blow out their pitiful pumpers. Hate+insanity=demonic mental rush that begs an extended stay in Hell. Mirrors line their halls...each one revealing the only lord they believe in. The adrenaline of hate is a church only the darkest of souls can join. Columbia University.

317 NY Nana  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:31:08pm

re: #278 Killgore Trout

He is great! And he is also a homey...he grew up in White Plains, not that far from us. It is the county seat.

318 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:31:37pm

re: #109 Charles

I lurked a bit early this AM.

Eeeeewwww. Stinky (no offense).

319 SeafoodGumbo  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:32:29pm

re: #280 pat

re: #272 SeafoodGumbo

The good professor must have missed Blackhawk Down. 23 dead Americans, 1,000 Somalis. Moron likely thinks we lost Tet too.

Good point. I guess DeGenova has the same mindset as the Iranian (Khatami? Ahmadinejad?) who was quoted as saying that even if Israel responded to a nuke attack by Iran, Israel would be finished while Iran would lose tens of millions, but not all, of its people.

DeGenova wouldn't mind sacrficing an order of magnitude larger number of expendable Africans if that meant the death of enough American troops that we lost.

320 Macker  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:33:32pm

I hate to utter these words, so fellow Lizardoids, please forgive me right now...
Should a calamity worse than 9/11 ever befall our country and Martial Law is declared, I can imagine Columbia University being one of the first "institutes of higher learning" to be shut down.

321 NY Nana  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:36:26pm

re: #315 savage_nation

Do you have any idea how many boys can empathize with you? It is not a great experience if you are not a jock, or have a cool car...and these guys who don't 'fit in' are the boys who grow up to be real men.

It seems like forever, doesn't it? And looking back? It was relatively a very short part of your life.

The jocks, etc.? That wears off, and they are left wondering where their 'popularity' went, as they are dummies as adults..women actually prefer brains! They are forever.

322 Odinist  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:37:39pm

re: #94 Charles

Charles-

Please, provide some proof of this 'sabotage' so this senseless blog war can, maybe, finally end....

-Odinist

323 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:40:04pm
324 NY Nana  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:41:52pm

re: #320 Macker

You are right. They have not learned. Sad. Did they think that 9/11 happened on a remote island?

And the liberal Jews who go there and worse, the professors who poison the minds of students and turn them into L3 moonbats? Bet they are 98% demonrats...and will be there cheering on Ahmadinadinnerjacket.
Fools.

Ask the kids what the Holocaust was, and they will stare at you blankly.

325 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:45:02pm

re: #234 savage_nation

LOL. Wait a second - Left me find my MAP - forget it. She's hot. Please don't talk.

On second thought. She's on the ballot. Better than listening to Shrillary.

326 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:46:43pm
327 NY Nana  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:48:36pm

re: #323 savage_nation

Savage? I wish I could answer that...I do not understand why...I know just how bright and just how good a person you are...the women in your life? You deserve better. That is all I will say.

Except that you are one of the good people, and would be a wonderful Dad..you already are to your step daughter, who would be totally lost to the world without you.

328 NY Nana  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:52:39pm

Top 9 Happenings That Could Prevent Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad From Speaking At Columbia University

9. His cabbie learns he’s from out of town and takes him to Columbia via a “great shortcut” he knows.

8. Refuses to address President Bush as either “Bushitler” or “The World’s Biggest Terrorist.”

7. Gets tickets to Rent.

6. Ban on taser use by university security is upheld.

5. Gets hooked on his hotel’s adult entertainment feature, Mesopotamian Girls Gone Wild and “totally spaces” on the speaking engagement.

4. Osama clears his schedule and becomes available that same evening.

3. His agent informs him that he has been called back for a second reading for the role of “Balki” in the new Lifetime movie, Perfect Strangers: The Golden Years.

2. Mossad wins the bid to handle his personal security detail.

1. Suggests that there are innate differences between men and women.

329 savage_nation[deleted]  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 6:59:02pm
330 darkster2400  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:07:57pm

Memo to Columbia University:

I hear that Fidel Castro is not well, so you'd better get him to come and speak soon.

You can also run a "Blast from your Past" series, inviting all the past leaders of the KKK.

PS - are you guys out of your f***king minds?

331 Patrizio  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:13:51pm

Mr. Coatsworth, you are fired

332 Challenger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:14:12pm

Cuckoo-cuckoo!

Are they freaking nuts?

333 wanumba  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:15:34pm

re: #323 savage_nation

Wish I could agree with you about women proferring brains over looks. Never happened with me. I got brains galore.

So why the fuck don't I have any kids of my own? Huh? What's up with that?


Wonder how many times George Washington muttered that in his life?

334 Confuzed  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:16:24pm

I'd certainly hope that all alumni, Jewish and non-Jewish alike, will demonstrate their displeasure by not donating anything for a while.

335 Pdogg  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:18:46pm

re: #330 darkster2400


You can also run a "Blast from your Past" series, inviting all the past leaders of the KKK.

I'm sure Senator Robert C Byrd(D) would love to speak there.

336 gatorbait  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:51:54pm

Anyone know the whereabouts of Pol Pot? If so, tell the folks at Columbia so they can book his appearance ASAP.

337 Sharmuta  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 7:58:38pm

re: #219 NY Nana

And there are some people signed up from here over there that shocked me.

Indeed.

338 So?  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:06:30pm

I just went to Drudge and he has it as his main headline. It's linked to a YouTube video of the Hitler Dean, but what caused me lots of sorrow I noticed over 300 people had left comment. Well I decided to take a peek and the first 10 or so nearly made me wanna puke.

One dumbfuck wrote" Hitler should have won the war. He was right"

....or some shit like that... what bothers me are tweenies & unies (U-niversity students) read and look at this stuff....

Just plain sickening. The world is becoming a scary place.

That's why we NEED TO BOMB IRAQ now.

We can let people like Dinnerjacket usurp the media and shape public opinion. Fuck him, fuck the dean, fuck the dickheeads who commented on YouTube.

/can ya tell I'm pissed

339 So?  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:07:57pm

re: #338 So?

We can't let people like Dinnerjacket usurp the media and shape public opinion.


typo

340 wanumba  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:24:38pm

So, what's the excuse for not inviting President Bush to speak?
They call him Hitler all the time, so how come he doesn't get the red carpet treatment? As a neo-Hitler, he's evidently just the kind of guy they cater to.

Or do they then admit that they actually know for a fact that Bush isn't anything like Hitler after all?

341 UncleSam  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:42:39pm

re: #102 Texas Joel

re: #75 Killgore Trout

Wait until 10/12.
Last day of Ramadan.
Last Friday of Ramadan- "Let us destroy Israel Day" in Iran
Iran has said the world will have Iran's final answer on nuclear development on that date.
News reports say terrorists arrested in Germany had instructions to act on or before 9/15-- needing a month to let security calm down before the big blow?
Increasing tempo of dry runs covering schools, school buses, ferrys, fire stations, etc.
Even French politicians beginning to think Iran is a threat. (sure sign that it is too late do anything major)

Does 'final answer" remind anyone of a similar phrase?

Such as, "The Final Solution."

342 rtheyserius  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 8:59:04pm

OK, Coatsworth... and when I'm President I'll haul your sorry rear end into court for trial on charges of treason.

Too bad that has as much of a chance of happening as you producing Hitler to speak at your school.

May events produce some alternative ways of achieving it. You are a disgrace.

343 mattm  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:05:02pm

And how much does this dip**** make a year. $0.01 would be too much.

344 Challenger  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:20:17pm

Imagine the Hitler-Ahmadinejad double billing! Who'd do the intros? Che? Mao?
/s

345 leepro  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 9:55:12pm

OT (sorta)

Take a look at this: "Rummy at Stanford"

346 pegcity  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:11:26pm

re: #310 savage_nation

The Iranians have invented a plane that looks exactly like an F16.

Interesting, i see they also invented a plane that looks remarkably similar to an F4 as well

347 traeh  Sat, Sep 22, 2007 10:11:51pm

Giuliani says he's determined to prevent Iran getting the Bomb. Most analysts seem to think Iran hasn't got a Bomb yet and won't have one for a year or more. But maybe Iran already has gotten hold of one or two.

Ahmadinejad for a long time has been amazingly provocative. He certainly seems to want war, and perhaps wants someone else to start it. It's hard to know what his exact motives are. Is he being so belligerent because, somewhat like Saddam Hussein, Ahmadinejad really is out of touch with reality and surrounded by yes-men and by his own illusions about what his provocations could cost him and his country? Or is it not illusion that leads him to provoke, but some kind of realistic appraisal of what he's getting himself into? Maybe he wants to use a nuke, but is not entirely sure Allah would be happy with a first use policy, and so Ahamadinejad is trying to provoke the U.S., Europe or Israel to strike Iran first? No, that's probably not it.

I think the more likely motive for Ahmadinejad's belligerence is to save face when faced with the constant -- and deserved -- insults that Ahmadinejad gets from around the world and from some of his own countrymen who, though they cannot openly insult him, find ways to tear him down. I'm guessing that, like many raised in an Islamic culture, he cares more about how others see him than how he really is within himself. Obviously that happens in Western cultures too, but at the same time there is in the West a continual influx, from various quarters, of something else: the contributions of those who are inwardly directed. In the West such people are not all crushed. But Islam seems to be a kind of honor and shame culture that is subservient to appearances and to external or scriptural authority to an extent that makes it rare to "march to the beat of a different drummer" within. It is a culture where it is comparatively rare to grasp that what others think of you, good or bad, doesn't change who you really are or alter whatever your worth really is. Even at a suicidal cost then, and even for no good purpose, someone like Ahmadinejad, on a public stage, will sometimes become belligerent and aggressive in a childish gambit to save face and to squirm free of public humiliation. Insofar as Ahmadinejad has no inner touchstone, and nothing of the sort is discovered in Islamic culture because that culture does not recognize or institutionalize any protections for freedom of conscience or for the "kingdom of heaven within" -- i.e., for a sacred, inviolate, inner self -- to that extent a person like Ahmadinejad may actually not be able to help himself when his "honor" is publicly besmirched around the world. His feels compelled to throw up a Potemkin belligerent braggadocio to save face, even though he may bring down catastrophe on himself and his country and the world as a result.

This seems plausible when one considers the frequency of honor killings in the Muslim world. Who hasn't read all too many times of how a Muslim father has murdered his own daughter when the family's "honor" was sullied in the community by the fact that she was raped, or she left Islam, or is dating someone not approved of by the family or community, or has done something else injurious to the "honor" of the family. It's remarkable that in Islamic communities a father killing his own daughter over such things need not bring dishonor, but can wipe dishonor away. That could only happen to the extent it does in Islamic countries because those countries are so enslaved to an external code of conduct that the insanity and inhumanity of that code can turn life utterly against itself -- can make a father murder his own daughter.

348 drk  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 2:35:21am

The "Ivory Tower" was always - and always will be - an insance asylum where the most respected crazy folk get a free rein to infect otherwise sane folk with their weird self-centred arrogant madness.

This is the primary reason I quit academia and went and got a "real job" ...

349 Sabraguy  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:30:46am

Is it so difficult to understand that some "ideas" are simply unworthy of dignifying by debate?

Giving a platform to a self-proclaimed genocidal anti-semite is not a sign of academic integrity, it is not a pricnipled defence of free speech, it is a sign of moral deficiency.

350 directorblue  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 5:50:00am

I've modified Coatsworth's office decor to reflect his invitation. Perhaps a raid reminiscent of Animal House's infiltration of a horse into the Dean's office can effect the changes one night.

351 vestalmiss  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 7:16:42am

Hey some high and mighty elitist folks might think that we billies from the south are so stupid but we would know what to do with Imadickajad... We would take his ass out in the woods kill him and then throw his carcass into the fish pond.

Damn it is good to live with rednecks. At least the terrorist are not trying to blow up Jackson Mississippi.


In all seriousness, I do worry about the folks up north in NY, Boston, Washington D.C. It frightens me when liberals shoot off their stupid mouths and put everyone in danger.

352 J.S.  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 8:33:35am

re: #349 Sabraguy

I agree. How does one "debate" with a demagogue? A dictionary definition of a "demagogue" is someone who attains power and popularity through "arousing the emotions, passions, and prejudices of the people." It has NOTHING to do with "debate." Demagogues are, by definition, not open to "rationality". They give their "speeches" so as to arouse hatred and contempt for those whom they despise, and to simultaneously appeal to their followers by way of pity.

The only reason why the President of Iran, a racist antisemite, wants to go to Columbia is so as to gain legitimacy. And, Columbia, the pathetic institution that it is, has agreed. Thus making Columbia complicit with racism and calls to genocide.

Do the administrators at Columbia really believe that given an opportunity to ask questions of a genocidal racist that minds will be changed for "the better?" How utterly pie-in-the-sky. Such naivety. They should be required to read a history book (one not written by moonbats.)

353 DockScience  Sun, Sep 23, 2007 10:39:11am

This man is too stupid and too morally inverted to run a university. He should be cleaning toilets to regain some sense of honor.

354 Yank in the EU  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 4:57:07am

madmama: Hey, sorry I missed your post, there!

Yes, some "demonstration." Well, it was definately worth the short ride into Brussels for that fine afternoon. Hope all is well with your family and I will see you on recent threads.


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