Paulian=moron

2 assholes talking shit. Happens anytime you get 2 liberals within ten feet of one another.

Maher is such a stooge,if Shemp showed up he would need a pass to get in the act!

"A Paulian"

I thought they were Paulettes.

Both dangerous dhimmis.

I fear that the CIA is still in the Clintoons hands and has been working against GWB for the whole time.

two idiots..which one is more of one? Hard to say lol.

I made a mistake and bought Imperial Hubris that Scheuer wrote anonymously after seeing him on Glenn Beck. I just could not get into the book, it seemed like it was a blame America thing for 9/11 and his reasoning frankly sounded stupid.

Later on another Glenn Beck show, scheuer showed his true colors and actually stated that our policies caused 9/11..then he kept wailing on all sorts of stupid liberal ron paulian talking points. I was glad that Glenn Beck had another guy there (I'm so bad with names but he was kinda red headish..fantastic guy) that really set scheuer straight.

I went and grabbed that book and put it in the trash..yeah that is right *al gore environmentalist cult followers*, I didn't recycle the crap book.

mwuwhahahhhahhaha

So, will Maher invite Ahmadinejad for next week's show?

re: #7 mbruce

I fear that the CIA is still in the Clintoons hands and has been working against GWB for the whole time.

Dubble-Nought SPIES like CZ?!

re: #5 Randman

"A Paulian"

I thought they were Paulettes.

I prefer Paulistinians.

Well, he's just following his view of policy to its logical conclusion. He couldn't get bin Laden, so it must be bad to get bin Laden. Yeah! Ron Paul!

THE correct term is Paulmyfingers

This video may leave you feeling slightly nauseous, as Maher’s moonbat audience applauds Scheuer’s call to abandon support for Israel. Maher is almost on the right side in this one, but “almost” is light years away.

I heard boos as well. I think it's fair to say that the reaction from the audience was mixed. The non-vocal ones were probably just stunned.

Another GCP sock puppet has been banned.

Heh

14 leading into 15; too funny.

The applause was pretty week.

Scheuer was (is) completely unlikable. He acts like he really enjoys being an a--hole.

Shows where the CIA is coming from, doesn't it.

Incidentally, I don't think he shows himself as an Israel hater so much a "realist" in the James Baker mold. He's not pro-Israel or anit-Israel per se; he just contends that America's interests are best served by a purely amoral foreign policy.

The applause was whatever the Applause light was directing.

re: #15 Charles

Who..?

Did that asshat really say that the US would be just fine if noone else in the world ever voted again?

#11 - I prefer Paulistinians.

That shall be how I now refer to them.

But wow, Scheuer is a complete freaking IDIOT ! I thought Bill Maher actually came off as rational and on the right side (*shocking*)

This is how problems happen in high places.

WOW!

With CIA leaders like this, who needs enemies?

re: #10 cbinflux

Well their not brain surgeons.

I would have walked out after that Israel crap. Seriously. The only worthwhile place over in the ME is Israel, the rest of them are complete crapholes.

I'm so annoyed by the "if we stop supporting Israel, terrorism will stop." Um, no it won't. Muslim terrorists hate us. They will continue to murder and create mayhem even if we stop supporting Israel.

And for me, there will be a snowball in a really really hot place before I stop supporting Israel.

This guy was our top spook on the OBL trail?! We're doomed.

re: #8 Highrise

The gentleman patriot that I could not name was Steve Emerson.

Here is the argument between the two that I was referring to.

Emerson...flat rules and showed how stupid scheuer is. scheuer needs to move out of the usa..I am not sure how his ilk can even sleep at night.

re: #27 formercorpsman

Was that a shot?

#29
I was thinking the exact same thing, followed closely by, who sends Jim Henson out after OBL?

This man didn't get bin laden when he headed up the 'bin laden unit'. That says it all.

re: #30 Highrise

I saw that too, Emerson bitch slapped him.

Democracies do not go to war against each other. However, they do talk each other into a slow and agonising sleep.

Democratic leaders are answerable to the people at election. Of course, I'm talking about real democracies, amongst which is Israel. In Iraq, the mistake was letting the Iraqi's define their own "constitution", instead of the Japanese/German approach. For this, I think, we will pay hard.

Not protecting Israel is one less democracy in the world. That alone is why we should stand by Israel.

While Israel stands "protected", all the Middle East is protected from a barbaric, violent war over the caliphate. Of course, there are some who think we should let that happen, and those "some" will still find some way of blaming the Americans.

I will have no problem sacrifying this guy life for Israel.

ron paul: no hope for america

re: #31 cbinflux

A shot at what?

Can you imagine the level of a mind that makes Maher look good by comparison?

re: #33 newsjunkie_ky

This man didn't get bin laden when he headed up the 'bin laden unit'. That says it all.

Indeed.

Maybe he didn't get bin laden because he didn't want bin laden.

re: #38 formercorpsman
Brain surgeons and their helpers.

Schuer is nothing but an extreme isolationist who appears to set aside all facts he must know about jihad given he was tracking OBL.

Plus he worked for clinton, and didn't get bin laden.

He didn't get Bin laden b/c he doesn't get Bin Laden.

re: #41 yah

Maybe he didn't get bin laden because he didn't want bin laden.

Could be, was he as consumed with getting bin laden as much as clinton was?
/

re: #42 cbinflux

No, I guess when I think I am being a comical genious in my own mind, it really is,

my own mind.

You made reference to double naught spies.

As I recall, that was the episode where Jethro was going to be either a brain surgeon, or a double naght spy.

I tried.

re: #23 redshirt

Did that asshat really say that the US would be just fine if noone else in the world ever voted again?

Yep.

I suppose that it would be more efficient if all countries were dictatorships. @@

Scheuer is a fucking asshole.

Bin Laden is an "insurgent leader""

Spooks who come out are not to be trusted.

re: #47 formercorpsman

D'oh! Thought you was castin' 'spersions on my job.

Why rag on Bill Maher? He is one of the only lefties that is a strong supporter of Israel. He strongly disagreed with Scheuer and stated in no uncertain terms that the US should come to the defense of Israel if needed.

Even the Jeruselem Post, in an article that I think was highlighted here a few months ago, published an editorial in which it proclaimed that Israel wished it had a spokesman like Bill Maher. That endorsement is good enough for me

re: #26 SuperdaveTWC

WOW!

With CIA leaders like this, who needs enemies?

HE' WAS NOT A LEADER!

re: #49 MandyManners

All the donuts went to his head.

re: #51 guest77

More's the pity.

Every Clinton who ever ran for president needed a Ro P running in a 3rd party to steal votes from the opposition.

re: #15 Charles

Dang! They're everywhere. Good job ferreting them out, Charles.

re: #55 Mich-again
FDT?

Michael Scheuer is frightening. To think that he was deeply involved in the effort to catch OBL does not engender confidence. He claimed on Glenn Beck's show that the world-wide caliphate was a neocon myth, and yet he wrote extensively in his own book about AQ's desire to see the caliphate restored.

He doesn't even remember his own words! Reality escapes him.

G*U*S*H

Scheuer is actually a guest on morning drive talk in Philly every once in a while as a voice of experience for the Michael Smirconish show.

IIR, he is usually introduced as the man who ran the bin laden desk for the CIA during the Clinton years.

The one thing that always stood out in my mind, is with all the shit bin laden was able to pull off during that time, especially increasing his operational capability, who is this guy to come off as an expert.

I would not be trying to tout my record given the circumstances.

re: #57 cbinflux

re: #55 Mich-again
FDT?

Ross Perot

Ron Paul

re: #8 Highrise

I believe you are speaking about Steve Emerson who is one of the
saviest and BRAVEST terrorism analysts around. Here is his website:
[Link: www.investigativeproject.org...]

Maher doesn't have the guts to have someone like Steve Emerson on.
I can't watch much of that show anymore because having my blood boil is just too upsetting. I will record it though and fast forward to see if he has anyone on with brains and wit who will take on the lunatics. It's usually 3 against 1
and the 1 is usually a bit wimpy.

You can find Steve Emerson debating Scheuer on you tube.

re: #50 cbinflux

What do you do?

Michael Scheuer, you are a motherfucking piece of shit. I would rather my federal tax monies go to support Abu Abbas than you and your fucking retirement.

re: #11 inkling

re: #5 Randman

"A Paulian"

I thought they were Paulettes.

I prefer Paulistinians.

I like that one!

I've found Scheuer to be a disturbing and less-than-100%-there kind of guy ever since he began commenting publicly on his book. That impression has grown stronger as his exposure his spread.

re: #60 formercorpsman

It worked for O. North and S. Berger, both Hefty Bag spokesmen, and Sandy's working a deal with Gold Toe.

I wonder now that Michael Scheur is not in the CIA, if he's taking money from the Saudis or other countries with mucho petrodollars. Or is he just an idiot.

re: #64 MandyManners

Mandy, you been drinking?

re: #61 Mich-again

Yeah... couldn't resist.

Kudos to the audience member who booed.

re: #15 Charles

Mazel tov! Will you tell us which one?

Steve Emerson is The Man

re: #63 formercorpsman

Well, I'm not a lawyer.

Sorry Charles...you are wrong. He didnt just reveal himself to be an Israel hater, he has done that previously...
From Wikipedia on this guy

Israel and the Lobby
Michael Scheuer entered into the controversy surrounding the Mearsheimer and Walt paper on the "Israel Lobby". He said to NPR that Mearsheimer and Walt are basically right. Israel, according to Scheuer, has engaged in one of the most successful campaigns to influence public opinion in the United States ever conducted by a foreign government. Scheuer said to NPR that "They [Mearsheimer and Walt] should be credited for the courage they have had to actually present a paper on the subject. I hope they move on and do the Saudi lobby, which is probably more dangerous to the United States than the Israeli lobby." [4]

In February, 2005, Scheuer gave an interview in which he discussed, among other things, Israeli lobbying in the United States.[5] In the interview, the following exchange took place:

"QUESTIONER: I’m curious — Gary Rosen from Commentary magazine. If you could just elaborate a little bit on the clandestine ways in which Israel and presumably Jews have managed to so control debate over this fundamental foreign policy question.
SCHEUER: Well, the clandestine aspect is that, clearly, the ability to influence the Congress — that’s a clandestine activity, a covert activity. You know to some extent, the idea that the Holocaust Museum here in our country is another great ability to somehow make people feel guilty about being the people who did the most to try to end the Holocaust. I find — I just find the whole debate in the United States unbearably restricted with the inability to factually discuss what goes on between our two countries."

Mental health break.

Sometimes, you just gotta' get away from the crazies!

Nice that Scheuer says, "Sir" when he condemns Israel to death. It's nice that's he's so polite. This probably got him the coveted spot of Ron Paul's foreign policy adviser.

For once, Maher wasn't the biggest asshole in the room.

re: #64 MandyManners

Mandy,

Don't be timid dear, tell us what you really think!

;-)

re: #74 cbinflux

That's good.

Although, you know we could always use another lawyer.

You can't say?

Hi all. I am appalled that individuals of this low caliber are serving at some of the most crucial positions in our government, esp. the military or CIA. I already knew that the State Dept. is filled with arabists, but to see that the CIA might be as well is most disheartening.

First off, if this person was the head of the task force seeking Bin Laden, its quite obvious why he wasn't caught or killed. I read a sympathy in this man's comments that make me wonder if the various escapes were not by accident.

Second, it boggles the mind when someone can make such utterly stupid comments, like "not one US dollar is worth (blank country)..." Would the US have been better off if the UK fell in 1942 under the U-Boat onslaught? Would the US have been better off if it allowed the world after WW2 to fall into communist hands? Of course there are vital national US interests in maintaining strong, stable democratic allies around the world.

Third, and probably the least intelligent statement made had to do with the cause for the muslim terrorism, as if it were US policies driving this hate.

The muslim world - and more importantly, the non-muslim - abounds with terrorism for no other reason than perceived slights, or simply a desire to destroy western civilization.

Was it US policies that caused:

-the Bali bombing
-Spanish train bombing
-the murder of Vincent Van Gogh
-shiite/sunni violence over the past 14 centuries
-pakistani suicide bombings against india, and secular pakistanis
-the repression, torture and murder of syrian, saudi, or egyptian democracy advocates by their own countries' mukhabarats
-the support and financing of terrorism by iran, along with its own awful repression of its people?

It is clear that people like this are either like Jimmy Carter, now on the payroll of unsavory terrorist apologists like the saudi gov't, or are simply mentally defective.

I am embarrassed as an American taxpayer that this fool was allowed to work as long as he did in so important a position, while sustaining such extreme views clearly antithetical to the fundamental tasks he was required to undertake.

re: #79 formercorpsman

Used to build reactors, these days I invent/engineer medical implants and instruments.

re: #68 marwan's daughter

I wonder now that Michael Scheur is not in the CIA, if he's taking money from the Saudis or other countries with mucho petrodollars. Or is he just an idiot.

Reminds me of that former weapons inspector who turned out to be on Saddam's payroll.

No wonder the US didn't capture bin Laden while this guy was in charge, he is a friggin idiot.

al Qaeda is defeating us in Afghanistan?

Frikkin asshat.

No wonder they never got Bin Laden.

re: #69 formercorpsman

re: #64 MandyManners

Mandy, you been drinking?

Why do you ask?

I'm this blunt all the time.

re: #59 cbinflux

G*U*S*H

Surely you don't have a crush on these guys :P what are you referring to?

Here is the epicenter nof the ex-intelligence community moonbats stricken with Cheney Derangement Syndrome.. Oh jeeze I know Homeland Security is watching this broh.

At the last link below one can watch, free, a number of clips that clearly assert that 9-11 in NYC was a case of controlled demolitions. This makes Dick Cheney, Rudy Gulliani, and Larry Silverstein absolutely indictable for mass murder, and of course Cheney is impeachable as well. To not impeach Cheney at this time, is in my view an impeachable offense on the part of every Senator and Representative.

I have watch Michael Scheuer on a lot of cable news and for some reason he is sounding a lot different now then I ever seen him. To me it sounds like the Clintons got to him

re: #85 MandyManners

You were snortin' bourbon a short time ago, and wistfully looking at the ceiling fan...

What's really sad is that they are both smart enough to see small bits of truth -- e.g. Scheuer is right that Bin Laden's more than a terrorist -- but I don't agree that he's an "insurgent leader". Instead he sees a dust mote in the corner of the universe and imagines he knows the whole of it. Bin Laden is the current Deoband candidate for Caliph, but he completely doesn't get that -- obvious from his Israel hate. Maher gets that we should stick by an ally that's democratic and free, but misses that the problem is worldwide, and that Jews are just the first victims on the list of the would-be Caliphate.

re: #62 Ruby

I can't watch much of that show anymore because having my blood boil is just too upsetting.

You are so right! I used to enjoy the show when it had an illusion of balance. Then I began realizing that after watching the show I was way too pissed off to go to sleep. Their conservative guests were just too timid and never said what I wanted them to say.

re: #86 Highrise

Oh, no, not again.

Michael Scheuer seems to be a severely hard-core Ronulan.

For him to fail to catch bin Laden is surprising; after all, the Ronulans are pretty smart people. They have cloaking devices and can pass for Vulcans when needed.

It wouldn't have made any difference to the US if Germany, Japan, or the USSR had prevailed? And, do I have this correct, he was in charge of the Bin Laden Unit before 9/11? So his failure mutates to a collaboration at this point? Or did he think Bin Laden was insignficant then, too?
And he is unaware of the significance of the dyed beard, which I learned about here?

Michael Scheuer

/geez, not this guy again

re: #93 Arbalest

Michael Scheuer seems to be a severely hard-core Ronulan.

For him to fail to catch bin Laden is surprising; after all, the Ronulans are pretty smart people. They have cloaking devices and can pass for Vulcans when needed.

He couldn't fint OBL in the Constitution.

So...the guy who was in charge of the bin Laden unit and had no freaking clue what he and his organization were up to... is calling bin Laden a resistance leader? What's next... a freedom fighter?

This jackass is yet one more reason why the CIA should have been disbanded following 9/11. Clean that nasty little cesspool up.

re: #80 rhodescholar

Excellent post!

Also -

First off, if this person was the head of the task force seeking Bin Laden, its quite obvious why he wasn't caught or killed. I read a sympathy in this man's comments that make me wonder if the various escapes were not by accident.

Makes sense. Asshats like these are not simply trying to cover up for their incompetence. If they were they would slink away and hide.

re: #88 tblot

I have watch Michael Scheuer on a lot of cable news and for some reason he is sounding a lot different now then I ever seen him. To me it sounds like the Clintons got to him

More like schwartz soros

re: #98 Racer X

re: #92 cbinflux

re: #86 Highrise

Oh, no, not again.

What?

re: #80 rhodescholar

And how is US policies causing Buddhists to get beheaded just about every
day in Southern Thailand?

Or the beheading of young Christian girls walking to school in Indonesia?

re: #100 cbinflux
He's been working on his retirement for the last fifteen years.

re: #88 tblot

I have watch Michael Scheuer on a lot of cable news and for some reason he is sounding a lot different now then I ever seen him. To me it sounds like the Clintons got to him

I agree. The first few times I saw him, not long after 9/11, he made some sense. Now he seems to have changed his opinions on a lot of things.

Which one's Beavis, and which one's Butthead?

re: #51 guest77

Here you go. I never knew this about him..I was brought up to find at least one good thing to say about someone..now I have one for Bill Maher.

re: #106 NY Nana

Was that after he was run off the networks?

#97 Wendya
This jackass is yet one more reason why the CIA should have been disbanded following 9/11.

Agreed -- they sure dig their own propaganda though: "You never hear about our successes!"
I guess we can't count the amount of times CIA sources have leaked these "successes" to the frontpage to the NYT either?

re: #82 Canadian Guy

re: #68 marwan's daughter

I wonder now that Michael Scheur is not in the CIA, if he's taking money from the Saudis or other countries with mucho petrodollars. Or is he just an idiot.

Reminds me of that former weapons inspector who turned out to be on Saddam's payroll.

If you're thinking the former Marine who was at one time very tough on Saddam, his predilection for 12 year old girls left him very open for blackmail. Scott Ritter, I believe, but I do believe he did eventually wind up on the payroll.

re: #89 cbinflux

I was trying to be discrete earlier.

Tornadoes in my dreams represent rape.

Musical interlude dedicated to Scheuer

re: #110 MandyManners

Figured as much / humor helps.

re: #30 Highrise

re: #8 Highrise

The gentleman patriot that I could not name was Steve Emerson.

Here is the argument between the two that I was referring to.

Emerson...flat rules and showed how stupid scheuer is. scheuer needs to move out of the usa..I am not sure how his ilk can even sleep at night.

Thanks for this link.
Scheuer said in the video, "Iran and Hezbollah are not irrational actors."

re: #106 NY Nana

re: #51 guest77

Here you go. I never knew this about him..I was brought up to find at least one good thing to say about someone..now I have one for Bill Maher.

He slammed the truthers pretty good in the previous episode. Could that be two?

re: #85 MandyManners

Blunt, yes, and that is what I love about you.

Perhaps a little joking on my part, but your posts seemed a little angry, possibly ethonol inspired by the flavor.

Don't be offended, it was not meant in any way to be an insult.

re: #107 cbinflux

The article is from Aug.'06...Maher is off of TV? I watched him once.

re: #99 Thanos

will not argue with that

re: #111 Canadian Guy

He couldn't get no loan 'cause Jimmah had interest rates in the high 20's.

Michael Scheuer, you are a f'ing moron.

Is Scheuer the "terrorism expert" who published an editorial stating the terror threat is overblown... about one week before 9/11/01?

What a freaking disgrace this man Scheuer is. I find Bill Maher repellent, but he's correct about Israel. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

So schueuer is saying we need to change terminologies- osama is a "resistance fighter" not a "terrorist" and that will cause us to start winning? Not exactly the term I would have chosen. How about the term we change is "religion of peace"?

re: #116 NY Nana

As he alludes to in the video, he was kicked off of network TV for slandering the troops, etc. He has been in ~ career repair since -- on cable.

re: #112 cbinflux

re: #110 MandyManners

Figured as much / humor helps.

Yes, it does.

Heartbreaker... at the end of lonely street.

So I here Mrs. Clinton going to be on everyones Sundays news show even Fox Just can't watch

Hey, the President of Columbia University just got a new cat!

re: #115 formercorpsman

Sweetie, I don't need anything to inspire my posts!

Schuer wasn't a CIA UNIT Leader, he was a Donut Addicted Pension Rider. Until we understand that, Israel will have to do our intelligence.

/

re: #121 stevieray

Is Scheuer the "terrorism expert" who published an editorial stating the terror threat is overblown... about one week before 9/11/01?

Linky? PLEASE!

re: #127 tblot

I think she knows the Hsu thing is not going away, especially since there is another form of media not willing to be complicit.

She is trying to get ahead of this.

What's a GCP sock puppet? Gay Commie Pinko? Give Clinton the Presidency?

re: #133 Caliredst8r

Don't even go there, not today.

re: #130 cbinflux

Interesting parallel.

Homer, at the controls of the power plant.

IIRC, Maher has maternal Jewish ancestry. Maher is an Irish surname, but that would be his father's side.

I believe he hit on Zulubaby in a club in LA once, She described him as creepy.

Speaking of LA, did any Angelenos notice anything unusual about the weather today?

re: #33 newsjunkie_ky

This man didn't get bin laden when he headed up the 'bin laden unit'. That says it all.

Considering Michael's responses I can understand why he and the OBL group never found Bin Laden.

re: #128 meMarc

Hey, the President of Columbia University just got a new cat!

I prefer What Jeff Killed.

/looks like he's been slacking off lately

re: #136 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

It was moist.

re: #133 Caliredst8r

Stop that shit RIGHT NOW.

re: #139 meMarc

re: #136 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

It was moist.

A third of an inch of rain moist, indeed!

I was mowing the lawn, and neglected to link a wonderfully rare radar today.

re: #126 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

AHHH!

That is great!

I bought their CD many years ago. This video is classic!

re: #126 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Heartbreaker... at the end of lonely street.

How about In the Light ... Wedding

re: #138 Killian Bundy

EEeeesh.

Cats kills a lot of songbirds. Read about a study they did in England. The authors were surprised at the impact cats had on the bird population there. Jeff should wear a bell around his neck.

re: #131 MandyManners

re: #121 stevieray

Is Scheuer the "terrorism expert" who published an editorial stating the terror threat is overblown... about one week before 9/11/01?

Linky? PLEASE!

I don't have a link... I don't remember which expert wrote that. That is why I asked the question. Its late, and my brain has night fuzz all over it.

My suspicion is Scheur is taking Saudi money.

re: #138 Killian Bundy

re: #128 meMarc

Hey, the President of Columbia University just got a new cat!

I prefer What Jeff Killed.

/looks like he's been slacking off lately

Jeff's probably been spending too much time in the internet.

Time to get some sleeps -- Chiefs home opener tomorrow, my son got tickets.

I'll leave you with a Globular Cluster [warning: don't click the thumbnail if you have a slow connect] and some good music.

Maher supports Israel, and to me that fact alone is enough reason to forgive so many other things he's wrong about. Hearing that support coming from people in the entertainment and/or news outlets isn't as common as it was 30 years ago and, sadly, I think we're heading for a day when calling for the abandonment of Israel is going to get a lot of traction in this country. Particularly if people like Scheuer ever convince enough people that it marginilizing Israel would make America safer.

Now I don't buy that. I'm a fire and brimstone kind of guy and any Nation that stands against Israel will face God's wrath. I think that's Europe's problem. I don't want it to be our problem, but I think it could happen. For his open support, I'll give Maher a lot of credit regardless of what I think of his overall leftist views.

Maximus

re: #145 stevieray

It is the truth.

Ron Paul is a breath of fresh air amongst a cadre of Republican candidates who seem content with simply spewing sound bytes, and have little problem with the direction of the GOP- Which seems to be big government, interventionism, and little concern for civil liberties or the free market.

The periodic Christian Nudist Convocation took place in July at the Cherokee Lodge nudist camp in Tennessee, and according to a dispatch in Nashville Scene, the group evokes skepticism not only from most Christians (who dislike the flaunting of naked bodies, even if innocently done) but from most Cherokee Lodge members, who see them as too intense for naturism's laid-back attitude. One CNC attendee acknowledged that many Christians would not approve of Cherokee Lodge, but to him "(I)t's Jerusalem." Another compared his work at nudist camps to missionary work: "(S)ome people get sent to Africa, some people get sent to South America and the Lord was like, 'I want you to go to nudist resorts.' And I'm like, 'Wow, what an assignment.'" [Nashville Scene, 8-2-07] NotW

re: #68 marwan's daughter

Hey -- did not see your post re Scheur and Saudi money. But I've reached the same conclusion.

re: #151 Logan

Now that you put it like that... I still won't be suckered in by his Troofers.

re: #151 Logan

Ron Paul is a breath of fresh air amongst a cadre of Republican candidates who seem content with simply spewing sound bytes, and have little problem with the direction of the GOP- Which seems to be big government, interventionism, and little concern for civil liberties or the free market.

Okie dokie, then.

News that Sounds Like a Joke
In July, National Hockey League player Derek Boogaard, an "enforcer" known for his willingness to brawl, opened the Derek and Aaron Boogaard Fighting Camp in Regina, Saskatchewan, to train teenage hockey players in that highly essential skill. [Chicago Tribune-Minneapolis Star-Tribune, 7-17-07]

Iran's state-sponsored news agency IRNA announced in July that its agents had broken up a Western countries' "spy ring" that employed more than a dozen squirrels trying to bring "spy gear" of foreign agencies into the country. [Washington Post-BBC, 7-20-07] NotW

re: #152 cbinflux

The periodic Christian Nudist Convocation took place in July at the Cherokee Lodge nudist camp in Tennessee, and according to a dispatch in Nashville Scene, the group evokes skepticism not only from most Christians (who dislike the flaunting of naked bodies, even if innocently done) but from most Cherokee Lodge members, who see them as too intense for naturism's laid-back attitude. One CNC attendee acknowledged that many Christians would not approve of Cherokee Lodge, but to him "(I)t's Jerusalem." Another compared his work at nudist camps to missionary work: "(S)ome people get sent to Africa, some people get sent to South America and the Lord was like, 'I want you to go to nudist resorts.' And I'm like, 'Wow, what an assignment.'" [Nashville Scene, 8-2-07] NotW

Like, wow, he got a nudist resort assignment from Jesus. Groovy.

Maher is an uneducated half-wit who has convinced moron he is a genius.

One priority of President Vladimir Putin's Nashi national youth movement is procreation to build up Russia's declining population, according to a July report in London's Daily Mail (which also charged the Nashi with inculcating authoritarianism). Its two-week convention in July (with 10,000 in attendance) featured on-site sexual encouragements with not a condom in sight. [Daily Mail (London), 7-27-07]

And in Russia's Ulyanovsk province, the government again this year promoted Sept. 12 as a patriotic conception day, featuring SUVs and other prizes to couples who manage to time their blessed events for June 12, which is Russia's Constitution Day. [Denver Post, 8-15-07]

BILL GATES IS EVIL
Modernizations: Congregants of Rev. Tom Ambrose, of St. Mary and St. Michael Church in Trumpington, England, met in September to complain of several things about their vicar, most notably that he delivered the Christmas sermon last year (and several since then) using Microsoft PowerPoint. [Daily Mail (London), 9-4-07]

The IDF sent Israeli Air Force fighter jets after a Syrian aircraft that disappeared from IDF radar Saturday.

According to IDF sources, the Syrian aircraft was later found on the Syrian side of the border, after it had crashed.

The IAF jets found no evidence of the aircraft attempting an attack and proceeded to return from their mission safely.

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

re: #121 stevieray

No, you are thinking of Larry Johnson.

re: #154 cbinflux

re: #151 Logan

Now that you put it like that... I still won't be suckered in by his Troofers.

Paul denies that the attack on the World Trade Center was a part of a government conspiracy and has explicity denied any association with the "9/11 Truth Movement." On the Mike Gallagher radio show on July 19, 2007, he said: "Some people try to twist what I say and turn it into that, and I think some of my supporters lean in that direction, but that's not my position. I do think government's basically inept. I mean we were spending $40 billion a year collecting intelligence and a lot of information was out there. We had one FBI agent, I think sent dozens and dozens of memos to his superiors saying that there are people trying to fly airplanes but not land them, and nobody would pay any attention. So, I don't think that's a conspiracy. I think that's a lot of bureaucracy that doesn't work very well. And, then when we have government investigations, whether it's 9/11 or assassinations, I think the main goal is to protect the government and to protect their ineptness - not - and that is a lot different than saying 'Oh they conspired to do this so they can use this as an excuse to spread the war in the Middle East whether they had anything to do with 9/11 or not.' I don't see it that way. But, I believe some who did want to spread the war would use it as an opportunity. But, it wasn't something that was deliberately done." [40] When Paul was asked by Shawn Wasson in an interview on LiveLeak.com if he believed that "9/11 was orchestrated by the government," Paul responded emphatically, "Absolutely not."[41] Paul was again asked in an interview on Fox News on August 5 if he agreed with the conspiracy theorists; he explicitly said that he does not believe that 9/11 was a government conspiracy and that he does not think the government would stage an attack.[42]

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

If you're a Dilbert™ or Scott Adams fan, be prepared to be pissed.
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re: #145 stevieray

I don't have a link... I don't remember which expert wrote that. That is why I asked the question. Its late, and my brain has night fuzz all over it.

That would be Larry Johnson, the media darling who wrote this piece in July 2001:

[Link: www.berg-associates.com...]

re: #151 Logan

Interesting to have a supporter of a so-called Republican repeating democrat talking points.

News of the Weird reported in February that Estrella Benavides had been sued by the city of San Mateo, Calif., for refusing to clean off the words that she had written in big lettering all over the outside of her house, even though she said those messages had been dictated by God. In August, she similarly wrote all over a second home she owns, in Belmont, Calif. (For those readers seeking the word of God: "Help worse crime ever; evil + out of mind: from Bush to neighbors using witchcraft + technology against people not belong to their religious group.") [KNTV (San Jose, Calif.), 8-28-07]

re: #8 Highrise

two idiots..which one is more of one? Hard to say lol.

I made a mistake and bought Imperial Hubris that Scheuer wrote anonymously after seeing him on Glenn Beck. I just could not get into the book, it seemed like it was a blame America thing for 9/11 and his reasoning frankly sounded stupid.

Later on another Glenn Beck show, scheuer showed his true colors and actually stated that our policies caused 9/11..then he kept wailing on all sorts of stupid liberal ron paulian talking points. I was glad that Glenn Beck had another guy there (I'm so bad with names but he was kinda red headish..fantastic guy) that really set scheuer straight.

I went and grabbed that book and put it in the trash..yeah that is right *al gore environmentalist cult followers*, I didn't recycle the crap book.

mwuwhahahhhahhaha

Was Steve Emerson the other guy? I'm wondering what Glenn will say the next time he has this dipstick on.

re: #162 Abu Maven

re: #121 stevieray

No, you are thinking of Larry Johnson.

Ahh... ok! Thanks!

One Hump...
A 60-year-old female rancher was killed in August in Mitchell, Australia, when a 10-month-old male camel (recently arrived as a birthday gift for the woman) apparently mistook her for a female camel, knocked her to the ground, and lay on top of her in what one camel expert said "no doubt" was "sexual" behavior, crushing her with his 330 pounds. [CBS News-AP, 8-19-07]

Sorry...should scroll down some more before I respond...duh.

re: #134 cbinflux

Ah, okay. I used to like reading some of them when they posted here. Looking at it a bit just now it looks like a sour grapes anti-LGF website. Whadda shame.

re: #166 Sharmuta

re: #151 Logan

Interesting to have a supporter of a so-called Republican repeating democrat talking points.

I'm not repeating any Democrat talking points, I'm simply showing that Ron Paul is not a 9/11 "Troofer" even if some from that conspiracy club might support him.

If you're going to criticize, do so on the basis of his policies and voting record, not based on who may or may not be supporting him for candidate for President.

re: #165 Wendya

Yes, that was it. Thank you too!

re: #168 bikermailman

I didn't buy the book, but this man convinced most of America that the CIA is made up of idiots. And there has been nothing to change anyone's minds since.

re: #168 bikermailman

Was Steve Emerson the other guy? I'm wondering what Glenn will say the next time he has this dipstick on.

Yep it sure was! I watched him closely...Glenn Beck cut him off :) he said we don't agree there, but I gotta go..haha!

Went to a fight...

In July, National Hockey League player Derek Boogaard, an "enforcer" known for his willingness to brawl, opened the Derek and Aaron Boogaard Fighting Camp in Regina, Saskatchewan, to train teenage hockey players in that highly essential skill. [Chicago Tribune-Minneapolis Star-Tribune, 7-17-07]

Hmm. He led the bin Laden unit from 1996-1999. What did we do to stop bin Laden during those years? Oh, yeah...nothing. Sad day when Maher is smarter than someone he's interviewing.

re: #140 MandyManners

Jiminy Christmas, gimme a break, okay? I'm not able to be on here all day so I miss some things that happen.

Ron Paul is going nowhere, get off the libertarian fantasy bus at the next stop.

/wake up to reality

re: #170 cbinflux

My poor wife.

In fairness to his audience, a majority either booed or didn't clapped. The second time when he said it didn't matter to Americans if they ever voted again, there were boos.

re: #177 cbinflux

Went to a fight...

In July, National Hockey League player Derek Boogaard, an "enforcer" known for his willingness to brawl, opened the Derek and Aaron Boogaard Fighting Camp in Regina, Saskatchewan, to train teenage hockey players in that highly essential skill. [Chicago Tribune-Minneapolis Star-Tribune, 7-17-07]

Boogaard is a monster!

Boy do I love hockey.

Out guys, have a good one.

re: #180 Killian Bundy

Ron Paul is going nowhere, get off the libertarian fantasy bus at the next stop.

/wake up to reality

I don't believe in voting for someone based on their 'electability'.
To me there is no such thing as a wasted vote... I examine voting records, stated positions, ideology, education, experience etc.

re: #184 formercorpsman

Good night!

re: #182 americanpundit

In fairness to his audience, a majority either booed or didn't clapped. The second time when he said it didn't matter to Americans if they ever voted again, there were boos.

When he said that crap about voting...I literally shook my head, not sure I was hearing what I was hearing. I think Maher was doing the exact same thing.

re: #181 formercorpsman
Whoa, Big Fella!

#187 bikermailman

Yep. Maher kind of just stared for a minute, and I think he was trying to interpret it as some sort of slanted message, but realized what the idiot had actually said. Kudos to Maher for saying "Well, I wouldnt.".

Lets be frank here. The CIA is compromised. Scheuer, Plame, Ray McGovern, Larry Johnson are the tip of the iceberg. The solution? I'm not sure, but its time to at the very least clean house.

re: #185 Logan

I don't believe in voting for someone based on their 'electability'.
To me there is no such thing as a wasted vote... I examine voting records, stated positions, ideology, education, experience etc.

Fair enough, but there is such a thing as wasted time.

/feel free to waste yours tilting at windmills

re: #185 Logan
You could not have possibly examined Pandering Paul's record. O'wise, you'd know why the LGF community think he's a joke.

re: #173 Logan

Um- okay. But I was criticizing your talking points. I've told sandrine to quit shilling for hillary here because she will convince no one. You are our ron paul sandrine- good job!

In case you missed it...

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re: #183 Logan

To the jaw Adam's Apple

re: #164 meMarc

If you're a Dilbert™ or Scott Adams fan, be prepared to be pissed.
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Scott Adams loses his mind.

Well if you're like me and you didn't think Dilbert was funny, read this blog and you'll really won't think it's funny. Here's one quote from it.

Ahmadinejad also called the holocaust a "myth." Fuck him! A myth is
something a society uses to frame their understanding of their world, and act accordingly. It's not as if the world created a whole new country
because of holocaust guilt and gives it a free pass no matter what it
does. That's Iranian crazy talk

re: #185 Logan

I don't believe in voting for someone based on their 'electability'.
To me there is no such thing as a wasted vote... I examine voting records, stated positions, ideology, education, experience etc.

Actually, let me put it this way, obviously Ron Paul will not be the GOP nominee.

/so, GOP nominee vs. Hillary Clinton, who do you vote for?

So glad I haven't seen Maher's sycophant-filled (and psycho-filled) circus since canceling HBO.

We had been HBO subscribers for many, many years, and then they started running this anti-American propaganda every week.  That was the end of HBO.

The guy was in CIA under Clinton?

Well fuck him then. I don't know why this guy is in TV with those "credentials".

re: #190 MrArchieBunker

Lets be frank here. The CIA is compromised. Scheuer, Plame, Ray McGovern, Larry Johnson are the tip of the iceberg. The solution? I'm not sure, but its time to at the very least clean house.

Hillary will staff it with Ark. Troopers and her Travel Office veterans

Awful, despicable, deluded cretins. What has Scheuer learned in Afghanistan? What does Maher know about the ME? These spoilt brats are the ultimate moonbats who take us to the abyss!

Tie them both up in a sack and wack them good; rest assured you always hit the right one!

[Link: sheikyermami.com...]

re: #192 cbinflux

re: #185 Logan
You could not have possibly examined Pandering Paul's record. O'wise, you'd know why the LGF community think he's a joke.

I have examined Ron Paul's record, very closely.
I've read his stated positions, his voting record, his philosophies, his economic, social and foreign policies.

I'm not really interested in who or what the so-called "LGF community" has deemed a joke- I think he brings to the forefront a lot of legitimate and important points about the war on terror, conservatism, expansion of the federal government and a lot of other contemporary American political issues.

re: #159 cbinflux

One priority of President Vladimir Putin's Nashi national youth movement is procreation to build up Russia's declining population, according to a July report in London's Daily Mail (which also charged the Nashi with inculcating authoritarianism). Its two-week convention in July (with 10,000 in attendance) featured on-site sexual encouragements with not a condom in sight. [Daily Mail (London), 7-27-07]

And in Russia's Ulyanovsk province, the government again this year promoted Sept. 12 as a patriotic conception day, featuring SUVs and other prizes to couples who manage to time their blessed events for June 12, which is Russia's Constitution Day. [Denver Post, 8-15-07]

He does not want the Muslims to out-birth native Russians and eventually take over the country. He's not stupid and neither are the Russians.

re: #185 Logan

re: #180 Killian Bundy

Ron Paul is going nowhere, get off the libertarian fantasy bus at the next stop.

/wake up to reality

I don't believe in voting for someone based on their 'electability'.
To me there is no such thing as a wasted vote... I examine voting records, stated positions, ideology, education, experience etc.

Good for you. Now stop wasting our time and stick to the main topic, which is not Ron Paul.

He was in charge of finding Bin Laden? No one we haven't caught him!

I'm way, way late to the topic, but: That's one interesting video.

Firstly, my jaw dropped when Maher said the things he did about Israel. The guy climbed a wrung or two up the ladder of estimation, in my mind. He's still hanging out near the bottom, but higher than twenty minutes ago.

Scheuer has some bizarre, conflicting views that really baffle me. I'll give him one thing --- unlike so many other leftists, he seems to base his ideals on information instead of sheer jibbering emotion. But the ideals themselves leave me nonplussed.

Weird interview.

I'm not really interested in who or what the so-called "LGF community" has deemed a joke

What a coincidence the LGF community isn't interested in what you think about Ron Paul -- conspiracy?

UN vows to broaden role on Iraq

The UN is ready to broaden its activity in support of Iraq, Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has said.

Mr Ban said at a key meeting in New York the time for determined action on Iraq had come, but that a greater UN presence would need better security.

This will last until the next time al-qaeda bombs their headquarters.

No surprise that Scheuer is a Paulian. Here is an excellent analysis and summary of Scheuer's positions:

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

This Scheuer guy says were losing the war ... in Afghanistan!

Who knew?

OT: Sorry if this was posted earlier...
The 'F*** Bush Editor Regrets Editorial...after advertisers flee.
via hotair

re: #197 Killian Bundy

re: #185 Logan

I don't believe in voting for someone based on their 'electability'.
To me there is no such thing as a wasted vote... I examine voting records, stated positions, ideology, education, experience etc.

Actually, let me put it this way, obviously Ron Paul will not be the GOP nominee.

/so, GOP nominee vs. Hillary Clinton, who do you vote for?

You are likely correct.
The chances of Ron Paul being the GOP nominee for President are very low. I'm not sure I can honestly say I'm excited about any of the candidates for President from the Republican field.
I think there are admirable and important qualities to Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, Tom Tancredo and Fred Thompson.

But to me, none have the kind of true and consistent conservatism I'd like to see from the Republican party. Nor do any of them seem to bring any fresh ideas or perspective to Iraq or the War on Terror.

re: #211 bikermailman

They are always sorry once their pocketbook takes a hit.

PAKISTAN

Opposition leaders arrested

ISLAMABAD -- Police swept the Pakistani capital on Saturday to arrest the leaders of opposition parties vowing to obstruct President Gen. Pervez Musharraf's re-election bid, officials said.

A security official said police in Islamabad had orders to take some 35 opposition leaders into preventive custody.

GERMANY

CIA spies won't be extradited

FRANKFURT -- U.S. authorities have told Germany that they will not extradite 13 purported CIA agents sought in the alleged kidnapping of a German citizen, an official said Saturday.

A Justice Ministry spokeswoman said the Bush administration told Berlin it would not hand over the group and said the ministry had, as a result, decided against giving Washington Munich prosecutors' formal request for their arrest.

Munich prosecutors issued warrants for the arrest of the 13 purported CIA agents at the end of January, accusing them of wrongfully imprisoning Khaled el-Masri, of Lebanese descent, and causing him serious bodily harm. El-Masri claims he was abducted in December 2003 at the Serbian-Macedonian border, and flown to Kabul, Afghanistan, where he was detained and abused. He says he was released in May 2004 in Albania.

SOUTH KOREA

N. Korean leader meets Syrians

SEOUL -- North Korea's No. 2 leader met with a Syrian delegation in Pyongyang on Saturday, the North's media reported, amid suspicions of a secret nuclear connection between the two countries.

Kim Yong Nam, head of the North's rubber-stamp legislature and titular head of state, had "a friendly talk" with the Syrian delegation, led by Saaeed Eleia Dawood, director of the organizational department of Syria's Baath Arab Socialist Party, the North's Korean Central News Agency reported.

PR
Death date causes alert on island

A man identifying himself as Comandante Guasabara claimed on Puerto Rican police frequencies that he was a revolutionary, that he intended to kill Puerto Rico Police Superintendent Pedro Toledo and that pro-independence radicals would bomb the FBI headquarters and the San Juan airport.

They'd do it today, a sacred day for Puerto Rico's independence movement because it marks not only the anniversary of the island's 1868 revolt against Spanish rule, but also the day two years ago when FBI agents killed longtime independence leader and bank robber Filiberto Ojeda Rios in a shootout.

As the two-year anniversary of Ojeda's death approaches, Puerto Rico police and the FBI are on alert this weekend throughout the island.

The radio threat has been dismissed as a prank by some and a set-up by others.

re: #204 Canadian Guy

re: #185 Logan

re: #180 Killian Bundy

Ron Paul is going nowhere, get off the libertarian fantasy bus at the next stop./wake up to reality

I don't believe in voting for someone based on their 'electability'.
To me there is no such thing as a wasted vote... I examine voting records, stated positions, ideology, education, experience etc.

Good for you. Now stop wasting our time and stick to the main topic, which is not Ron Paul.

No, but the topic was an interview with Michael Scheuer, who is a Ron Paul supporter, and fairly in line with Ron Paul's views on foreign policy etc.

re: #202 Logan

re: #192 cbinflux

re: #185 Logan
You could not have possibly examined Pandering Paul's record. O'wise, you'd know why the LGF community think he's a joke.

I'm not really interested in who or what the so-called "LGF community" has deemed a joke- I think he brings to the forefront a lot of legitimate and important points about the war on terror, conservatism, expansion of the federal government and a lot of other contemporary American political issues.

Good for you

We all saw Ron and Rudy debate and Ron's blowback theory that we're essentially responsible for 9-11. That view is not gonna sell here, Logan. Ron Paul is living in a pre-911 matrix that people here have broken out of. Maybe you should learn more about Islam and listen to what bin Laden and Ahmadinejad say and then reread Ron Paul's views on foreign policy.

re: #203 Piglet-U93

He may be the the next Stalin.

re: #203 Piglet-U93

re: #159 cbinflux

One priority of President Vladimir Putin's Nashi national youth movement is procreation to build up Russia's declining population, according to a July report in London's Daily Mail (which also charged the Nashi with inculcating authoritarianism). Its two-week convention in July (with 10,000 in attendance) featured on-site sexual encouragements with not a condom in sight. [Daily Mail (London), 7-27-07]

And in Russia's Ulyanovsk province, the government again this year promoted Sept. 12 as a patriotic conception day, featuring SUVs and other prizes to couples who manage to time their blessed events for June 12, which is Russia's Constitution Day. [Denver Post, 8-15-07]

He does not want the Muslims to out-birth native Russians and eventually take over the country. He's not stupid and neither are the Russians.

The Russians are having serious demographic issues. Far worse than America, Japan, or Europe. The life expectancy is something like 58 years for men, alcoholism and AIDS are rampant, and over the next 40 years, the population is supposed to drop from 160 million to 90 million.

Something Victor Davis Hanson had to say about Scheuer here:

Not long ago, a nameless CIA operative published Imperial Hubris, a scathing analysis of the Bush administration’s war on terror. Eventually, word spread that the author, called “Anonymous” on the book jacket, was one Michael Scheuer.

In the meantime, both the Washington press corps and the CIA had played a sort of coy game of gossiping in private about the real identification of the author while publicly maintaining the mystique of an anonymous authoritative insider whose station was too high up and too covert to be disclosed.

But once Scheuer was publicly identified, the world could examine what he had to say on various topics. People weren’t impressed — especially by Scheuer’s assertions in interviews that Osama bin Laden shouldn’t be identified as a terrorist , and that the Holocaust Museum in Washington was a means to make Americans feel guilty about the Holocaust.

(...)

If an “I accuse” author like Scott Thomas Beauchamp or Michael Scheuer avoids using his own name, or reporters like Dan Rather or Michael Isikoff won’t name a source for a potentially history-changing story, there is often a good suspicion why: They apparently don’t look forward to questions about why — and how exactly — they wrote what they wrote.

Instead, anonymity gives them free rein as judge and jury, exempt from cross-examination. This “trust me” practice goes against the very grain of the American tradition of allowing the aggrieved the right to face his accusers.

(...)

Scheuer sounds goofier each time he gives an interview — and the credibility of his once anonymously written Imperial Hubris shakier and shakier. Isikoff has never quite recovered his journalistic reputation. We all know what happened to Dan Rather.

re: #212 Logan

Again, who will you vote for, the GOP nominee or Hillary Clinton?

/your answer matters

re: #216 Canadian Guy

Ron believes that the Govt. might have assinated JFK.

re: #213 Sharmuta

re: #211 bikermailman

They are always sorry once their pocketbook takes a hit.

He says he'd still do it again though...

re: #206 Cognito

I'm way, way late to the topic, but: That's one interesting video.

Firstly, my jaw dropped when Maher said the things he did about Israel. The guy climbed a wrung or two up the ladder of estimation, in my mind. He's still hanging out near the bottom, but higher than twenty minutes ago.

Scheuer has some bizarre, conflicting views that really baffle me. I'll give him one thing --- unlike so many other leftists, he seems to base his ideals on information instead of sheer jibbering emotion. But the ideals themselves leave me nonplussed.

Weird interview.

Agreed with your first point.
For a Hollywood liberal, Jewish or not, to be so forthcoming about their support of the State of Israel, is something to be noted.

Especially since a lot of Hollywood Jews are secular in their politics.

Good for Bill Maher I say.

re: #219 traeh

Great post.

Oh, and Sheuer's a news analyst for CBS news, which as we all know, has "unimpeachable sources".

re: #222 bikermailman

Ah! One of those kinds of "sorry".

re: #219 traeh

BWAAAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA! VDH is truly one of the smartest people out there. The MSM just doesn't get it why they are failing, and flailing. We have options now, sites like LGF, and real journalists like VDH and zombie put them to shame.

re: #221 cbinflux

re: #216 Canadian Guy

Ron believes that the Govt. might have assinated JFK.

I'm not surprised, but no kidding?

/so, GOP nominee vs. Hillary Clinton, who do you vote for?

You are likely correct.
The chances of Ron Paul being the GOP nominee for President are very low. I'm not sure I can honestly say I'm excited about any of the candidates for President from the Republican field.
I think there are admirable and important qualities to Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, Tom Tancredo and Fred Thompson.

But to me, none have the kind of true and consistent conservatism I'd like to see from the Republican party. Nor do any of them seem to bring any fresh ideas or perspective to Iraq or the War on Terror.

Translation?
"I'm voting for Hillary, Just not going to say so."

re: #217 cbinflux

re: #203 Piglet-U93

He may be the the next Stalin.

A possibility and if so is likely to go after the Muslims (Beslan) instead of the gentle Jewish people. Though, Russia aiding Iran to build a nuclear reactor is not a good indicator.

re: #220 Killian Bundy

re: #212 Logan

Again, who will you vote for, the GOP nominee or Hillary Clinton?

/your answer matters

I'm not an American citizen so therefore I cannot, unfortunately, vote legally in the upcoming 2008 President Election.

But if I were able to, I would sooner abstain from voting then support Hillary Clinton.

re: #229 Cobra

/so, GOP nominee vs. Hillary Clinton, who do you vote for?

You are likely correct.
The chances of Ron Paul being the GOP nominee for President are very low. I'm not sure I can honestly say I'm excited about any of the candidates for President from the Republican field.
I think there are admirable and important qualities to Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, Tom Tancredo and Fred Thompson.

But to me, none have the kind of true and consistent conservatism I'd like to see from the Republican party. Nor do any of them seem to bring any fresh ideas or perspective to Iraq or the War on Terror.

Translation?
"I'm voting for Hillary, Just not going to say so."

Absolutely not.

re: #230 Piglet-U93

re: #217 cbinflux

re: #203 Piglet-U93

He may be the the next Stalin.

A possibility and if so is likely to go after the Muslims (Beslan) instead of the gentle Jewish people. Though, Russia aiding Iran to build a nuclear reactor is not a good indicator.

Nope...he's in bed with them. As you mention, Iran is just one indicator. They still need hard currency, and can sell their weapons and nuclear technology to get it.

re: #229 Cobra

I'm thinking that he might be considering not voting.

/which is as useful as tits on a boar

re: #227 bikermailman

re: #219 traeh

BWAAAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA! VDH is truly one of the smartest people out there. The MSM just doesn't get it why they are failing, and flailing. We have options now, sites like LGF, and real journalists like VDH and zombie put them to shame.

I like what he had to say, I think he's a fresh and original thinker, and the media could use a lot -- lot -- more like him. But for what it's worth, the National Review is a highly esteemed part of the 'old' media, and the Tribune Company is one of the largest mainstream media outfits in the world.

I'd say it's the message that matters, not so much the format.

It's nice to know that Michael Scheuer "appreciated the comments" from Bin Laden praising Scheuer's book.

Kind of gives you a warm, fuzzy feeling inside.

re: #231 Logan

re: #220 Killian Bundy

re: #212 Logan

Again, who will you vote for, the GOP nominee or Hillary Clinton?

/your answer matters

I'm not an American citizen so therefore I cannot, unfortunately, vote legally in the upcoming 2008 President Election.

But if I were able to, I would sooner abstain from voting then support Hillary Clinton.

Which, of course, hypothetically, helps elect her. All indications are that this election are going to be close close close...and a person staying home is as good bad as a vote for Hillary.

re: #231 Logan

Then what is the point of you stumping for him?!

re: #232 Logan

Good.

re: #195 cbinflux

re: #183 Logan

To the jaw Adam's Apple

Can't wait for NHL to start!

Nearly 10,000 from states sponsoring terrorism obtain permanent U.S. residency

re: #219 traeh

I wish Scheuer and his credibility had suffered. Unfortunately, he's probably a hero to the left and even MSM, and makes a lot of money on the speaking circuit.

re: #231 Logan

I'm not an American citizen so therefore I cannot, unfortunately, vote legally in the upcoming 2008 President Election.

And does that mean you'll be voting illegally?

re: #228 bikermailman

It's viral.

re: #242 meMarc

re: #219 traeh

I wish Scheuer and his credibility had suffered. Unfortunately, he's probably a hero to the left and even MSM, and makes a lot of money on the speaking circuit.

Yeah. Guys like him -- he did an important job, once upon a time -- bring an enormous amount of built-in credibility, whether he currently deserves it or not. So when he swerves into a ditch, too many people are willing to follow.

re: #237 bikermailman

All indications are that this election are going to be close close close..

/guess again

OT

This link was in a post in an earlier thread.

An accidental cookie for Islam.

Pedophilia in Germany is State approved.

re: #238 Sharmuta

re: #231 Logan

Then what is the point of you stumping for him?!

I'm not stumping for anybody. If someone brings an educated, rational, interesting and fresh perspective on matters of contemporary American politics or foreign policy it's worth examining and discussing.

re: #234 Killian Bundy

re: #229 Cobra

I'm thinking that he might be considering not voting.

/which is as useful as tits on a boar

"I would sooner abstain from voting then support Hillary Clinton."

Which means he would have voted Democrat. Just not that one. Glad he can't vote.

Bin Laden likes Scheuer, and Scheuer like Ron Paul.

Love triangle?

There must be something in the water.

re: #243 Sharmuta

re: #231 Logan

I'm not an American citizen so therefore I cannot, unfortunately, vote legally in the upcoming 2008 President Election.

And does that mean you'll be voting illegally?

Ha, of course not. I just wanted to be clear and honest on my position and perspective for the purposes of this discussion.

re: #249 Cobra

re: #234 Killian Bundy

re: #229 Cobra

I'm thinking that he might be considering not voting.

/which is as useful as tits on a boar

"I would sooner abstain from voting then support Hillary Clinton."

Which means he would have voted Democrat. Just not that one. Glad he can't vote.

I never said I would have voted Democrat.
I have never stated support for any of the Democratic candidates for President.

re: #243 Sharmuta

re: #231 Logan

I'm not an American citizen so therefore I cannot, unfortunately, vote legally in the upcoming 2008 President Election.

And does that mean you'll be voting illegally?

LOL. Nice catch. He might just do that.

re: #235 Cognito

re: #227 bikermailman

re: #219 traeh

BWAAAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA! VDH is truly one of the smartest people out there. The MSM just doesn't get it why they are failing, and flailing. We have options now, sites like LGF, and real journalists like VDH and zombie put them to shame.

I like what he had to say, I think he's a fresh and original thinker, and the media could use a lot -- lot -- more like him. But for what it's worth, the National Review is a highly esteemed part of the 'old' media, and the Tribune Company is one of the largest mainstream media outfits in the world.

I'd say it's the message that matters, not so much the format.

I agree that it's the message that matters, not the format. It's just that for the most part, from what I've seen, the MSM is stuck in an 'agenda' driven mode, which is antithetical to what a free press is supposed to be about. When you get a 9-1 ratio Democrats to Republicans, there's going to be a certain way of thinking and doing in the MSM that leans along ideological lines. I wish they would get their act together, because I don't want them to go by the wayside. Again, a healthy, free press is essential to a democracy. They just have to be able to look at both sides with a hard eye, instead of just one. Iraq is just one example. I don't have a problem with reporting the bad stuff, it is a war after all, bad stuff will be happening. They almost seem to be refusing to report the good that goes on over there, though. We know it does, not because President Bush says so, or General Petraeus says so, but because of soldiers and Marines coming home with stories, and milbloggers telling us the good, bad, and ugly. Okay, I'm rambling, been working on the floor, tired, back hurts, so I'll shut up now...lol

re: #254 Cobra

re: #243 Sharmuta

re: #231 Logan

I'm not an American citizen so therefore I cannot, unfortunately, vote legally in the upcoming 2008 President Election.

And does that mean you'll be voting illegally?

LOL. Nice catch. He might just do that.

It was hardly a "catch".
As I stated, I was just being honest about my citizenship (or lack thereof).

re: #248 Logan

I'm not stumping for anybody.

Repeat that enough and we might, just might, buy into that.

/not!

re: #255 bikermailman

re: #235 Cognito

re: #227 bikermailman

re: #219 traehBWAAAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA! VDH is truly one of the smartest people out there. The MSM just doesn't get it why they are failing, and flailing. We have options now, sites like LGF, and real journalists like VDH and zombie put them to shame.

I like what he had to say, I think he's a fresh and original thinker, and the media could use a lot -- lot -- more like him. But for what it's worth, the National Review is a highly esteemed part of the 'old' media, and the Tribune Company is one of the largest mainstream media outfits in the world.I'd say it's the message that matters, not so much the format.

I agree that it's the message that matters, not the format. It's just that for the most part, from what I've seen, the MSM is stuck in an 'agenda' driven mode, which is antithetical to what a free press is supposed to be about. When you get a 9-1 ratio Democrats to Republicans, there's going to be a certain way of thinking and doing in the MSM that leans along ideological lines. I wish they would get their act together, because I don't want them to go by the wayside. Again, a healthy, free press is essential to a democracy. They just have to be able to look at both sides with a hard eye, instead of just one. Iraq is just one example. I don't have a problem with reporting the bad stuff, it is a war after all, bad stuff will be happening. They almost seem to be refusing to report the good that goes on over there, though. We know it does, not because President Bush says so, or General Petraeus says so, but because of soldiers and Marines coming home with stories, and milbloggers telling us the good, bad, and ugly. Okay, I'm rambling, been working on the floor, tired, back hurts, so I'll shut up now...lol

Feel free to keep going! I think you're right on the money.

re: #253 Logan

I never said I would have voted Democrat.
I have never stated support for any of the Democratic candidates for President.

I never said you said it. What's your point?

re: #257 Sharmuta

re: #248 Logan

I'm not stumping for anybody.

Repeat that enough and we might, just might, buy into that.

/not!

Wow, there seems to be a great deal of hostility at the idea of considering and debating a differing position! Apparently it's "stumping" for a politician if I can recognize some merit in an individuals arguments or perspective...
Especially if he doesn't have the support of the "LGF community" as I was told earlier.

re: #247 Piglet-U93

OT

This link was in a post in an earlier thread.

An accidental cookie for Islam.

Pedophilia in Germany is State approved.

That's not just pedophilia...that's...holy crap!

re: #256 Logan

re: #254 Cobra

re: #243 Sharmuta

re: #231 Logan

I'm not an American citizen so therefore I cannot, unfortunately, vote legally in the upcoming 2008 President Election.

And does that mean you'll be voting illegally?

LOL. Nice catch. He might just do that.

It was hardly a "catch".
As I stated, I was just being honest about my citizenship (or lack thereof).

Then what purpose does the word "legally" serve in your statement?

re: #259 Cobra

re: #253 Logan

I never said I would have voted Democrat.
I have never stated support for any of the Democratic candidates for President.

I never said you said it. What's your point?