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Daily Kos: 45% Want Ahmadinejad As US President

Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 8:19:11 am PDT

A Daily Kos diarist has put up a poll asking the question, Daily Kos: Who would you rather have lead, Bush or Ahmadinejad?

Bush is actually ahead. But not by much.

(Hat tip: Killgore Trout.)

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1 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:20:00am

Have they no shame?

2 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:20:58am

re: #1 MandyManners

Have they no shame?

No. The Kostards have absolutely no shame.

3 rab3  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:21:34am

Let's see 66 + 56 = 122. Wow Kos readership is up to 122 trolls now.

4 BrianA  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:21:49am

And they allow these "people" to vote in real elections?

5 jcm  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:21:53am

Let's buy one way tickets for the 56 to Iran, and check back with 'em in a year. See how they like it.

6 phil flavin  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:22:38am

re: #5 jcm

Let's buy one way tickets for the 56 to Iran, and check back with 'em in a year. See how they like it.

HEAR HEAR! I'll throw in 20$!

7 Peacekeeper  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:22:43am

The LGF Poll:

All in favor of Islamic rule raise your remaining hand.

8 jcm  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:22:57am

re: #3 rab3

Let's see 66 + 56 = 122. Wow Kos readership is up to 122 trolls now.

Don't forget the vote early vote often block, more like around 50.

9 SonOfLiberty  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:23:06am

45% of Kos wishes to be subject to Shitria law, what?

10 BrianA  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:23:11am

How long before they start screaming about 56 lizard infiltrators?

11 scottthecanuck  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:23:14am

Hey I know its just the Kos-asses but if we get Dinnerjacket on the ballot in all 50 states it might be enough to split the vote aka Nader anf give the GOP the whitehouse in 08.

12 rab3  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:23:21am

re: #6 phil flavin

re: #5 jcm

Let's buy one way tickets for the 56 to Iran, and check back with 'em in a year. See how they like it.

HEAR HEAR! I'll throw in 20$!

Don't forget the "I'm a human shield T-shirt"

13 summergurl  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:23:34am

Why in the world would they poll something as insane as that? Oh yeah - so the MSM can pick it up and report it as fact.

Hey - I have an idea.. why don't these folks all ask Dinnerjacket if they can hitch a ride on his plane back to Iran with him?

14 gibsonz  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:23:41am

And just when you think they can`t get any dumber,they prove stupidity knows no bounds!

15 xgaijin  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:23:44am

This was for our benefit (our higher blood pressure that is), not theirs.

16 littleoldlady  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:23:47am

I would love to be able to laugh at these clowns, but they are making it very difficult. I can't bring myself to ridicule the mentally challenged.

17 itellu3times  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:23:54am

Who would you rather have as speaker of the house?

18 jcm  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:24:20am

re: #7 Peacekeeper

The LGF Poll:

All in favor of Islamic rule raise your remaining hand.

Wonder how many of the Dinnerjacket votes are women. And how many have seen the videos of police beating women for have a curl of hair showing.

Never mind stupid question.

19 Manzanita and Sage  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:24:27am

These idiots really suffer from an almost suicidal self loathing. The Iranian President would kill them all in a heartbeat. I don't think that these people would even know how to fight back. Nihilists - every one.

20 Bearster  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:24:29am

A Dark Ages mass-murdered who is driven by apocalyptic visions of holocaust... how "progressive."

Now can we question their loyalty?

21 itellu3times  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:24:33am

Who would you rather be locked in a closet with Hillary?

22 Egfrow  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:24:45am

I cry fowl! They didn't have a slot for Joesph Stalin. He would have cleaned up on that poll.

23 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:25:16am

re: #2 Honorary Yooper

re: #1 MandyManners


Have they no shame?

No. The Kostards have absolutely no shame.

Were they raised by parents who did not believe in instilling a feeling of shame/embarassment/rue? While I don't believe it should be a large tool in the box of parenting tricks, shame is necessary.

24 rab3  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:25:24am

re: #21 itellu3times

Who would you rather be locked in a closet with Hillary?

Stinky.

25 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:25:28am

This just in: NBC has declared Mahmoud the winner in Florida.

26 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:26:01am

re: #22 Egfrow

Ron Paul?

27 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:26:03am

I think Bush is only in the lead because of Rovian Diebold technology.

28 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:26:04am

I may have to go with Mahmoud over The Pantsuit.

/

29 jcm  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:26:21am

re: #25 JammieWearingFool

This just in: NBC has declared Mahmoud the winner in Florida.

The hanging chad gays put him over the top.

30 Globular Cluster  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:26:24am

You know, these Kos fucktards could just do everyone a favor and actually move to Iran. But no, the iPhone service sucks there and the Dixie Chicks won't come to play....

31 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:26:27am

Call me an glass-half-full optimist, but I see an alignment of interests here. For that 45%, I'd prefer they have Ahmadinejad as their president, too. And I'm willing to help them pack, and drive them to the airport.

32 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:26:29am

re: #22 Egfrow

Waiting for a very general single word comment.

33 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:26:35am

Has Ahmalittlehitler been named keynote speaker at the next Kos convention yet?

34 xgaijin  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:26:43am

Mandy,

The gene for blushing was bred out of them a couple of generations ago.

35 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:26:45am

Ron Paul!

36 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:26:47am

One day the Kostards will turn on the TV news to see liberals in major cities across the U.S. being hanged from cranes, by the Islamic Republic of America's Ministry of Virtue and Vice, and wonder, "How the fuck did we get to this point?"

37 rab3  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:26:57am

re: #28 JammieWearingFool

I may have to go with Mahmoud over The Pantsuit.

/

He will be here VP choice.

38 Golem Akbar  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:27:00am

Now we're talking. Good for Kos. Out of the (other) closet, at last. The anti-American closet. He came of the other one a long time ago, you know.

39 ZionistYoungster  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:27:01am

The diarist says:

P.S. - I'm sure some enterprising Kossack will peruse my past diaries and comments and realize that no, I am not a Kossack. I am an independent. [...]

If, following that and using it as pretext, the diary won't be deleted, I'll be very surprised. They booted Sheehag, they kicked out quite a few from the Green Party, they'll have no problem putting the lid on this guy. Particularly now that Lord Screwem may be prompted to get into damage control mode because of these Ahmadinejad diaries.

40 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:27:03am

re: #28 JammieWearingFool

I may have to go with Mahmoud over The Pantsuit.

/

Not I. Hillary might talk you to distraction but, ShortShit will cut my head off.

41 scottthecanuck  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:27:04am

re: #22 Egfrow

re: #26 MandyManners

I was gonna say that but I fear it may be the next addition to the deletion policy.

42 DanThePainter  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:27:04am

What tha ...! Ron Paul is not on the poll! Where are his backers?

43 SonOfLiberty  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:27:13am

re: #31 Occasional Reader

This man speaks wisdom.

44 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:27:31am

Expect them to: 1) take the poll down since it might prove too embarrasing to Markos who would have to explain such a thing to the Democrats who come to him pandering for votes; 2) revel in the comparison between Bush and pure evil; or 3) post similar polls - [T]hugo and Castro for example - only to watch the numbers jump in favor of the dictators.

These people seem to think that comparing a US president with a thugocracy is legitimate. They think that the US engages in restrictions on free speech, but when was the last time you heard of a newspaper or media outlet shuttered because they violated the government sanctioned line on anything? Iran did that today. And they've been doing that - imprisoning political prisoners whose only crime is speaking out against the theocracy and the apocalyptic visions of Ahmadinejad and his cronies.

They revel in the comparison, and think that if only Ahmadinejad were a Christian that the same people on the right who castigate him would suddenly come to his defense. That's a seriously perverted worldview.

There is a clear defined line between good and evil - and Ahmadinejad is clearly evil. His intentions are evil and he makes no bones about what he seeks to do, even as the media obfuscates on his behalf. All the while, the centrifuges continue spinning and Iran's nuclear ambitions move that much closer to fruition.

45 so.cal.swede  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:27:47am

It's just a showoff poll, you know that if it came down to a real election between the two, the Koslings would never vote away their right to bitch and moan on the internet or public arenas.

46 abolitionist  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:27:54am

I'd bet the State Department's working on some long lost paperwork to prove that Ahmadinejad was an anchor baby.

/maybe with help from Dan Rather

47 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:27:55am

These fools deserve him

48 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:28:08am

re: #12 rab3

I can't wait for them to start showing up to be human shields at Iranian nuke sites. They'll do it.

49 opnion  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:28:22am

A lot of clear thinking. Mahmoud would have such a sterling relationship with the "Progressive" community if he were the US president.
He would absolutely honor homosexuals, atheists, Marxists and other left leaning types. All of that tolerance is right there in the Koran.
It is really disturbing to see how far the lunacy has gone.
Remember the Democrat candidates flocked to the Yearly Kos hate fest, but boycotted FOX debates. There is a message there.

50 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:28:38am

re: #31 Occasional Reader

Call me an glass-half-full optimist, but I see an alignment of interests here. For that 45%, I'd prefer they have Ahmadinejad as their president, too. And I'm willing to help them pack, and drive them to the airport.

I'll kick in for gas. Hell, they can ride to the airport in the back of my truck.

51 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:28:50am

re: #40 MandyManners

re: #28 JammieWearingFool


I may have to go with Mahmoud over The Pantsuit.

/


Not I. Hillary might talk you to distraction but, ShortShit will cut my head off.

She'll just cut something else off.

52 rab3  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:29:14am

re: #42 DanThePainter

What tha ...! Ron Paul is not on the poll! Where are his backers?

Voting of Afterdinnerjacket.

53 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:29:18am

re: #39 ZionistYoungster

ChenZen pointed out last night that the diarist is actually a lizard. However the votes are from koskidz themselves.

54 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:29:29am

Hey guys.

THEN MOVE!


/effing islamo-libs

55 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:29:52am

re: #53 Killgore Trout

Where?

56 SonOfLiberty  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:30:08am

45% of Kos supports the subjegation of women.

57 shibumi  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:30:33am

Gee, you think all those psychiatrists that have "proven" that the liberal brain is vastly superior to the conservative brain have interviewed the suicidal nihilists at Kos who support Dinner Jacket? I'm thinking no.....

58 phil flavin  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:30:49am

re: #12 rab3

I was thinking this instead
[Link: www.tshirthell.com...]

59 Egfrow  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:31:23am

re: #41 scottthecanuck

Nah, it's the initiation of violence Charles deletes. Calling the Left Communists is not violent it's a classification based on observed behavior patterns and statements.

60 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:31:34am

The irony here is that the diarist who posted the poll was apparently trying to hammer some sense into the KosKidz. Note that (s)he precedes the poll with Orwell quotes regarding insipid Westerners who only condemn the use of violence by Western countries in self-defense. The poll was put up as if to say "you wouldn' REALLY rather live under a Shiia theocracy, no matter how much you hate Bush, right?" And yet... the poll results are what they are.

61 rab3  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:31:42am

re: #48 Killgore Trout

re: #12 rab3

I can't wait for them to start showing up to be human shields at Iranian nuke sites. They'll do it.

Yea, and when the hear the first explosion, or a car backfire, they will run like little girls.

/no offense to any little girls out there.

62 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:31:48am

re: #55 Cap'n DOC

Little Green Football's hates Roald Dahl

by laxmatt

Quick and to the point - I am registered at both Little Green Footballs and here at Daily Kos. Don't try to figure out why - I don't identify myself with the politics of either site. Just go with it.

63 sadatoni  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:32:11am

These same people would have voted for Hitler.

64 Golem Akbar  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:32:19am

I'd like to see Kos try to explain the vote.

Well yes, we at Kos do support the President of Iran, but that's because he'll bring peace in our time and keep the trains running on time. [and he'll kill the Jews, but whattheheck, no one is perfect]
65 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:32:45am

re: #42 DanThePainter

What tha ...! Ron Paul is not on the poll! Where are his backers?

Ahmadinejad is just a stalking horse for the real candidate, Ron Paul!

66 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:33:08am

re: #62 Killgore Trout

Thanks. BiPolar? Or... Good Moby?

67 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:33:16am

re: #61 rab3

Yea, and when the hear the first explosion, or a car backfire, they will run like little girls.


Just like Saddam's leftist human shields, the Iranians aren't going to let them leave when they want to.

68 Cobra  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:33:54am

re: #25 JammieWearingFool

This just in: NBC has declared Mahmoud the winner in Florida.

UPDATE: Chavez supporters demand recount!

69 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:34:13am

re: #62 Killgore Trout

Quick and to the point - I am registered at both Little Green Footballs and here at Daily Kos. Don't try to figure out why - I don't identify myself with the politics of either site. Just go with it.

IOW, he's a spineless jellyfish.

70 Roger  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:34:39am

re: #62 Killgore Trout

I trust the hazmat team took good care of you when you came back from diving for the KOS poll!

71 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:34:48am
72 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:34:54am

re: #34 xgaijin

Mandy,

The gene for blushing was bred out of them a couple of generations ago.

'Tis a pity.

73 EC Marm  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:34:57am

re: #62 Killgore Trout
I checked his history at lgf. Very occasional comments here. I think he keeps the account here for bragging rights only.

74 rab3  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:35:01am

re: #58 phil flavin

re: #12 rab3

I was thinking this instead
[Link: www.tshirthell.com...]

Gross stuff there. Pedophile t-shirts. Not for censoring the Internet but someone should take a look at these guys.

[Link: www.tshirthell.com...]

75 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:35:07am

re: #10 BrianA

How long before they start screaming about 56 lizard infiltrators?

************************************************** ********

I KNEW this was going to be an issue somewhere in this thread!...LOL...

76 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:35:40am

re: #56 SonOfLiberty

45% of Kos supports the subjegation of women.

That's the only way they can get women.

77 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:35:44am

re: #70 Roger

I think of it as a mutual stink exchange.

78 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:35:59am

re: #41 scottthecanuck

No rule against it to my knowledge.

79 rab3  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:36:29am

re: #67 Killgore Trout

re: #61 rab3

Yea, and when the hear the first explosion, or a car backfire, they will run like little girls.


Just like Saddam's leftist human shields, the Iranians aren't going to let them leave when they want to.

They could try this.

......Terrorist Hid Under Pregnant Woman's Bed

[Link: yonitheblogger.com...]

Hamas Terrorist Hid Under Pregnant Woman's Bed

(IsraelNN.com) IDF soldiers operating for the sixth straight day in the Ein Beit Ilma neighborhood of the biblical city of Shechem arrested one of Hamas' senior local officers Sunday. Ahmed a-Ez, 36, had been hiding in a hole which had been dug under a bed in a residential home.

IDF who combed the home encountered a pregnant woman sitting on a bed. When asked to move she refused, claiming that she felt ill and that there was nothing to see under the bed. The soldiers made her get up and discovered a-Ez in the underground hole.

He was arrested and taken to SHABAK (General Security Service) interrogation.

80 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:36:43am

re: #51 JammieWearingFool

re: #40 MandyManners


re: #28 JammieWearingFool

I may have to go with Mahmoud over The Pantsuit.
/

Not I. Hillary might talk you to distraction but, ShortShit will cut my head off.

She'll just cut something else off.

Poor Bill.

81 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:36:55am

re: #62 Killgore Trout

Followup. I carefully read his post. I recall my last. Conveniently forget I asked.

82 rab3  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:37:11am

re: #80 MandyManners

re: #51 JammieWearingFool

re: #40 MandyManners


re: #28 JammieWearingFool


I may have to go with Mahmoud over The Pantsuit.
/


Not I. Hillary might talk you to distraction but, ShortShit will cut my head off.


She'll just cut something else off.

Poor Bill.

She gives it back on weekends.

83 Farang Kheemao  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:37:12am

These nutroots haven't a clue!

84 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:37:44am

re: #79 rab3

Yoni rocks!

85 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:37:49am

re: #56 SonOfLiberty

45% of Kos supports the subjegation of women.

They're still pissed at their mommies. (Serious toilet-training issues at work.)

86 moonstone  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:37:58am

re: #44 lawhawk

I think we're giving them too much credit. This just confirms the fact that they are simple-minded, attention-seeking, hateful losers -- as they say, "educated beyond their intelligence."

I've been earnestly trying for years to find a leftist with enough of a brain to make him/her worth my time to argue with. I'm still looking.

87 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:38:25am

I think he is registering to vote in the primary while he is here
Will he vote for Billary or Obama ?
Absentee of course

88 bianchi_roadie  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:38:34am

re: #1 MandyManners

Nope - Kos is a true partisan. Lofty principles don't matter more than "winning" political points. Bush hates Ahmadinejad, and vice-versa, therefore he is a useful prop. He's no more than that to the KosKids: They would hate the rest of his "platform" (i.e. killing gays, crushing dissent) but that happens "over there", so it doesn't matter in the US. Here, only Bush and everyone's opinion of Bush matters. Nothing else.

89 Alone in NY  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:38:48am

President Ahm-A-DinnerJacket Emulator On/

I would like to run for President of the United States after the American People here the troof from me today and when I speak with the good people at Columbia Infidelersity. Then they will know that I am the one, and Hillary the Pants Suit could be my running mate. After all, Ahm-A-DinnerJacket and she's the Pant Suit. Ha Ha Ha, death to Israel and the Joooz. Ha ha ha. Don't they know nuclear power could mean something other then the bomb? Silly Americans, they have been scared by the Bushitler and his running mate the Hunting "Accident"

President Ahm-A-DinnerJacket Emulator Off/

90 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:39:19am

re: #79 rab3

Re: the linked story

What, was she expecting? w or w/o the puctuation.

/pregnant pause

91 rab3  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:40:32am

re: #84 Ward Cleaver

re: #79 rab3

Yoni rocks!

Yes he does.

92 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:40:33am

re: #88 bianchi_roadie

re: #1 MandyManners

Nope - Kos is a true partisan. Lofty principles don't matter more than "winning" political points. Bush hates Ahmadinejad, and vice-versa, therefore he is a useful prop. He's no more than that to the KosKids: They would hate the rest of his "platform" (i.e. killing gays, crushing dissent) but that happens "over there", so it doesn't matter in the US. Here, only Bush and everyone's opinion of Bush matters. Nothing else.

That's the very reason I say "shame on them." I didn't like Bill Clinton but, I never wanted to be ruled over by a Jew-hating dictator.

93 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:40:39am

I am pretty sure this is a joke.
That funny Charles !

94 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:41:08am

:-(
:-(
:-(

95 Maine's Michael  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:41:28am
Daily Kos: Who would you rather have lead, Bush or Ahmadinejad?

Well, I guess that depends on whether or not you want Israel destroyed in one fell swoop, or nibbled to death by the 'Peace Process'.

96 opnion  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:41:35am

re: #87 LeftJustAintRight

I think he is registering to vote in the primary while he is here
Will he vote for Billary or Obama ?
Absentee of course


Gotta be Obama. True he is an apostate and all, but hey his middle name is Hussein. He would put Hillary in a bag, make her shut up & do menial labor.
OK half right.

97 JamesTKirk  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:42:37am

re: #14 gibsonz

And just when you think they can`t get any dumber,they prove stupidity knows no bounds!

I'm actually pleasantly surprised that Bush is winning.

re: #18 jcm

Wonder how many of the Dinnerjacket votes are women...

... and/or gay, and/or Jewish, etc.

98 Bill Amos  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:42:43am
Meanwhile, Gateway Pundit has photos of Mahdi greeting 1,500 starstruck Iranian fascists last night in the heart of the western world’s greatest city.

Wonder if they were this group

The national Iranian American Council

[Link: www.niacouncil.org...]

Is important because of this guy who was on its board

The Clinton campaign has done as much if not more than
any campaign to protect itself from situations such as
this, and none of the other campaigns, other than
hypocritically, can point a finger at the Clinton
campaign on fund-raising problems,” said Hassan
Nemazee, who is a fund-raising bundler for Mrs.
Clinton, as Mr. Hsu had been.
some background

[Link: 209.157.64.200...]

Hassan Nemazee, an Iranian American financier based in
New York, was on the board of the American Iranian
Council when that organization arranged for President
Clinton’s secretary of state, Madeleine Albright, to
apologize for America’s role in the 1953 coup that
brought the Shah to power in Iran.

99 ZionistYoungster  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:42:46am

OT and linkage: on CounterPunch, in the article "A Good Year for Etrogs", Debbie Nathan suddenly forgets to dress Leftist Jew-hatred in anti-Zionism and goes for Judaism proper. Excerpts:

Nice story, but only that - a story - according to revisionist archaeologists. Lately they've found evidence suggesting the Jews were plotzed in Canaan the whole time the Bible has them enslaved in Egypt, then wandering the Sinai. As reported by Daniel Lazare in Harper's a few years ago, competing desert tribes from the period, including Jews, spun "wandering" and "conquest" myths to lay claim to land they'd never been kicked out of but were simply trying to hold onto, in part by spinning elaborate rationales.

So now it's not only the modern Zionism of the 19th-21th centuries that doesn't have a legitimate case for Jewish sovereignty over the Land of Israel--the ancient Zionism of 3,000 years ago didn't have any either. Nice to know. "Jews, know your place: wandering the world forever. Being settled in your own land is only for all other nations."

Etrogs cost $50 to $100 - apiece. (Do the goyim need to know this? Is it good for the Jews?) Quite the fetish, and the commodity to boot, as evidenced by Mr. Zagelbaum's brisk business and high anxieties. [...]

[...]

[...] The result [Of modern ways of growing it. --ZY]: etrogs bigger than XXX-rated breasts.

Speaking of which, look how Chabadniks are sexifying the etrog. [...]

OK, I get the idea. And now... let's see you write a similar piece about the Muslims and their sheep on Eid el-Adha. Deal?

100 father_of_10  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:42:47am

re: #28 JammieWearingFool

I may have to go with Mahmoud over The Pantsuit.

/

No, you can't. The pantsuit could be voted out. She could could evenb change her mind now and again, and as terrible as she may be, I don't think she is even in the same league as Our Man in a Dinner Jacket. Saying we would have him over the pantsuit isn't much different than the KOSidiots selecting Our Man in a Dinner Jacket over Bush.

101 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:43:14am
102 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:43:20am

re: #44 lawhawk
But, but Hawk?
He said,I am a muslim,I cannot Lie!
HAHAHAHAHAHAH!
tHAT'S RICH... HAHAHAHA

103 JamesTKirk  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:44:28am

re: #19 Manzanita and Sage

These idiots really suffer from an almost suicidal self loathing. The Iranian President would kill them all in a heartbeat. I don't think that these people would even know how to fight back. Nihilists - every one.

They don't believe actions have consequences; at least, not for them. No matter what scary things Charles posts about terrorists and sharia in America, they don't think it will ever affect them. Because they're special.

DailyKOS is the short bus of the internet.

104 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:44:39am

re: #93 Poitiers-Lepanto

It's no joke but I'm laughing anyways.
Bwahahahaaa!

105 abolitionist  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:45:00am

Maybe it's their BDS/Anyone-but-Bush conditioning. Some koslings actually resisted it. But yes, this result pushes the envelope of insanity.

106 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:45:05am

Now up to 182 total votes; yet the percentages remain the same.

And Koskidz, if you're reading this... YES I would take President Hillary Clinton, or President Obama, or President Gore, or hell, even President Kucinich, over President Ahmadinejad. Because I understand the difference between a democratic political opponent, and a genocidally-minded thug.

107 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:46:00am

From the komments:

Well, that's a good question. (1+ / 0-)
Recommended by:Eternal Hope
Bush believes in the end times. So does Ahmadinejad. That's a deal-breaker for me.

So I guess I wouldn't vote for either.

For what it's worth though, the Iranian leader doesn't seem to believe in privatizing everything in sight. They have free health care and education there.

Here, Bush doesn't want to give health care to children, and wants to get rid of public education.

If I was forced to choose, I just might pick the less crazy of the two. I'll leave that up to all of you to decipher.

by dantyrant on Sun Sep 23, 2007 at 08:05:00 PM PDT

I'm glad this kossack cleared things up.

108 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:46:00am
109 ZionistYoungster  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:46:19am

re: #101 buzzsawmonkey

We all love our
Ahmadinejad...
Ahmadinejad...
Ahmadinejad...

/sung to the tune of a certain beatles song

110 insanity police  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:46:27am

Forget "party of cut and run."

The dems are the party of genocide incitement and Holocaust denial.

111 JamesTKirk  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:46:29am

re: #36 Ward Cleaver

One day the Kostards will turn on the TV news to see liberals in major cities across the U.S. being hanged from cranes, by the Islamic Republic of America's Ministry of Virtue and Vice, and wonder, "How the fuck did we get to this point?"

They'll blame Bush, of course. But we know the real villain.

112 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:46:41am

re: #44 lawhawk

re: #102 reloadingisnotahobby

IMHO, You guys are CherryTree picking...

/NoLie

113 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:47:20am

I think this komment sums it up nicely.

114 gymnast  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:47:46am

A prime example of the Kos shitbird mentality on the shitbird Kos website

115 HBob  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:47:49am

re: #79 rab3

re: #67 Killgore Trout

re: #61 rab3
Yea, and when the hear the first explosion, or a car backfire, they will run like little girls.

Just like Saddam's leftist human shields, the Iranians aren't going to let them leave when they want to.
They could try this.

......Terrorist Hid Under Pregnant Woman's Bed

[Link: yonitheblogger.com...]

Hamas Terrorist Hid Under Pregnant Woman's Bed

(IsraelNN.com) IDF soldiers operating for the sixth straight day in the Ein Beit Ilma neighborhood of the biblical city of Shechem arrested one of Hamas' senior local officers Sunday. Ahmed a-Ez, 36, had been hiding in a hole which had been dug under a bed in a residential home.

IDF who combed the home encountered a pregnant woman sitting on a bed. When asked to move she refused, claiming that she felt ill and that there was nothing to see under the bed. The soldiers made her get up and discovered a-Ez in the underground hole.

He was arrested and taken to SHABAK (General Security Service) interrogation.

I can't believe that. Sally Field said that if mothers ruled the world there would be no war. Maybe it's because the pregnant lady hasn't given birth yet. As soon as she does give birth I'm sure she'll feel really bad about hiding terrorists.

116 princetrumpet  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:47:49am

What's the beef? It's just the children at Kos practicing truth in advertising. May the self destruction of the Democrat Party continue. Hell, they're into the law of natural selection, right? The Dodo, Northern Spotted owls, and Democrats.

117 JamesTKirk  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:47:52am

re: #22 Egfrow

I cry fowl!

You're just being chicken.

118 dahozho  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:47:55am

Here's another MSM/NYT spinning story. A terrorist becomes a civilian in Judea/Samaria....

[Link: blog.camera.org...]

Too late to invite him to Columbia.

Today's speech is SO much more interesting once you know that Walid Shoebat's invitation to speak at Columbia (sponsored by the student Republican club) was recinded.... (Shoebat has renounced islam and terrorism, and delivers great interviews and speeches from his first-hand experience)

119 Golem Akbar  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:48:14am

re: #103 JamesTKirk

DailyKOS is the short bus of the internet.

I couldn't agree more. Which is why I really love it when the democrats and Kos get together on issues. Finally the American people can see what their "beloved" middle-left political party has become: the terror-enablers; anti-semites; haters of freedom.

120 beblebrox  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:48:17am
Everything Harry says is a lie. Remember that, Norman. *Everything* he says is a lie.
121 Ben Hur  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:48:19am

re: #99 ZionistYoungster

Just don't tell them about the hieroglyphics in Egypt that mention it.

122 Idle Drifter  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:48:36am

re: #60 Occasional Reader

The irony here is that the diarist who posted the poll was apparently trying to hammer some sense into the KosKidz. Note that (s)he precedes the poll with Orwell quotes regarding insipid Westerners who only condemn the use of violence by Western countries in self-defense. The poll was put up as if to say "you wouldn' REALLY rather live under a Shiia theocracy, no matter how much you hate Bush, right?" And yet... the poll results are what they are.

I suspect that the people voting for dinnerjacket are just being antagonistic though it wouldn't be a surprise if a few voted for him because they think he's better than Bush. I just don't place much faith in polls unless their outcome actually has a result such as an election. Other than that their just props of what's on people minds at the time.

123 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:49:10am

It is now open and in the clear:

the IOG is here.

The islamic occupation government.

And this is for real. No joke.

125 toadbelly  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:49:35am

the 45% can be Ahmadinejad's new "immortals"

126 ZionistYoungster  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:49:47am

re: #108 buzzsawmonkey

I know, but don't tell that to Debbie Nathan, because it would blow away her thesis of traditional religion as a tool of capitalism.

127 Spenser (with an S)  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:49:52am

Every idiot commenting on the visit says "Why are you afraid of his ideas?" We're not afraid of him or his ideas! We are righteously angry and we understand the Honor- Shame culture that we're dealing with. To count coup on your enemy by having him escort you to the scene of your world's greatest recent triumph where you can laugh up your sleeve at them... Priceless.

128 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:50:27am

re: #99 ZionistYoungster

So now it's not only the modern Zionism of the 19th-21th centuries that doesn't have a legitimate case for Jewish sovereignty over the Land of Israel--the ancient Zionism of 3,000 years ago didn't have any either.

Ironically, the Harper's article to which Nathan is referring really should lead to the opposite conclusion. The thrust of it is that the Jews were in the land of Israel all along; that is, they're the "aboriginal" people of that area, and therefore--by modern lights--are the "authentic" inhabitants.

129 kynna  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:50:34am

My husband has to work with people who would answer this poll for Ahmadinijad. If asked face-to-face if they would really rather have him as president they'd answer "no". They just hate Bush so much that they have to continue the rhetoric further and further into the absurd.

It's not just Bush though. It's all Republicans and whoever the leftists' latest target happens to be that day.

Many of my husband's colleagues could be considered geniuses in their field, but it's obvious they merely have savant skills and the rest of their intellectual make-up is closer to mediocre. And where that exists, hate is sure to follow. They need emotion to fill the space where they know they lack the genius they've cultivated in their actual specialty. Hate is an easily maintained and heightened emotion.

That's my psychoanalysis of the day. Now I need a nap.

130 ruby  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:51:09am

Now we know what Bush needs to do to become more popular with the lunatics,
start executing homos & barbers who give western style haircuts, fire all liberal professors (will there be any remaining?), no more music, close down all the television stations, and start planning to wipe Israel off the map. His approval ratings will soar!

131 Cobra  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:51:17am

re: #103 JamesTKirk


DailyKOS is the short bus of the internet.

Rotating title?

132 Bubbaman  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:51:32am

Let's see:

On the one hand we have a university newspaper publishing an editorial with the headline F--- Bush,

On the other hand, we have a university inviting a genocidal maniac, AchtungImonaJihad to spread his propaganda and hatred.

It seems about right in the Kos world.

I'm feeling as though it is past time for revolution in this country to retake our universities, courts, and legislative branches back.

133 dahozho  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:51:36am

re: #121 Ben Hur

re: #99 ZionistYoungster

Just don't tell them about the hieroglyphics in Egypt that mention it.

Or the large city site they are excavating in Egypt which have children entombed in mud-brick walls...

134 Egfrow  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:51:42am

re: #117 JamesTKirk

re: #22 Egfrow

I cry fowl!

You're just being chicken.

Duck! Duck! Goose!

135 BrianA  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:51:56am

The kids are really beating themselves up over this poll.
Example:

Oh, Just shut the **** up! (4+ / 0-)
Recommended by:Eternal Hope, MadEye, KenBee, condoleaser
It's these things that get me worked up about Iran - this should be common knowledge, but instead on Kos your more likely to find a defense of Iran rather than criticism


Then why don't you fuck off somewhere else then?

It's really kind of funny.

136 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:51:57am

Mahmoud's buddy Chavez tackling the important issues of our time.

Real boob rails against fake boobs

137 ChristianRepublic  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:52:05am

Why inflate kos's hit counter? Who cares what the village idotarian just said? Make them irrelevant by making them irrelevant: boycott kos.

138 ZionistYoungster  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:52:41am

re: #121 Ben Hur

Or Pharaoh Merneptah's Stele, which is the first external mention of "Israel" by name, where he gloats, "Israel has been wiped out, its seed is no more". Mahmoud has deep roots to base himself on.

139 HBob  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:52:59am

re: #125 toadbelly

the 45% can be Ahmadinejad's new "immortals"

We can only hope. ( Just watched '300" last night. )

140 phoenixgirl  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:53:06am

wow, that many would still prefer Pres. Bush! there might be some hope here lizards!

141 JamesTKirk  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:53:18am

re: #102 reloadingisnotahobby

re: #44 lawhawk
But, but Hawk?
He said,I am a muslim,I cannot Lie!
HAHAHAHAHAHAH!
tHAT'S RICH... HAHAHAHA

Why isn't there ever anyone present with the brains and balls to ask about taqiyya when they make a comment like that?

142 Sizzlack  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:54:06am

Oh man this is too funny. These kids are idiots. They bitch and moan about how Bush took away their "civil liberties", which I have yet to notice in my everyday life. Well if they think its oh so terrible under Czar Bush what the hell do they think is gonna happen with Ahmadipshit at President. This illustrates how absolutely uninformed they are, as Ahmadickhead actually does take away civil liberties. I know Kos is a pathetic website but I used to at least think they were legit, as far as the Dems were concerned....but this has officially shown me how absolutely out of touch with reality these people are, and once again makes me think the only people who write stuff there are students from UC Berkley and 12th graders from San Francisco.

143 Sponge  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:54:08am

I voted for Bush, but ahamfordinnerjihad is quite compelling when he says "I'm muslham...I cannot lie."

It was almost believable.

/no it wasn't

144 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:54:30am
145 Zim  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:54:42am

anyone can vote. I went and voted for Bush. Go over and vote. Yes there is no Ron Paul to vote for!

146 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:54:56am

Per a Wall Street Journal story this morning the approval rating of the Congress is now down to 11%. The final paragraph of the story is as follows:

The one Iraq-related vote that did pass last week was a Republican resolution condemning MoveOn.org for its New York Times ad accusing General David Petraeus of betrayal. That "sense of the Senate" resolution passed with 72 votes, but 25 Democrats -- a majority of Democrats voting -- refused to condemn the ad. Mrs. Clinton was one of the MoveOn 25. That's a vote to remember next year, after she's won the nomination and is running as a national security hawk.

147 JamesTKirk  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:55:24am

re: #120 beblebrox

Everything Harry says is a lie. Remember that, Norman. *Everything* he says is a lie.

You're stealing my best lines.

148 ZionistYoungster  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:55:24am

re: #128 Occasional Reader

Nice point of view! I didn't think of it that way--and neither did the writer, else she'd never have used that argument.

*sigh* So many "Jews for a Bad Cause" in the world. How could my nation have produced all of those?

149 grumpy_old_soldier  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:55:42am

"Stupid is as stupid does!"

Forrest Gump

150 AW  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:55:59am
Daily Kos: 45% Want Ahmadinejad As US President

I hope this is only because they're in the "anything but Bush" mode...

Here's an idea for a reality show:

Put a few dozen leftist nutjobs on an uninhabited island and see what happens. My guess is that they'll have a proper dictatorship in a matter of weeks.

151 rab3  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:56:06am

re: #131 Cobra

re: #103 JamesTKirk


DailyKOS is the short bus of the internet.

Rotating title?

Short bus.

152 Sizzlack  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:56:10am

OT...there was a small blurb in the NY Post today that said Cheney proposed an Israeli airstrike on the Natanz facility in Iran, in order to provoke a response from Iran, which would then allow the U.S. to launch a massive airstrike. I duno if anyone has said anything about it yet, interesting thought process...Cheney really is Darth Dick. Not that I would have been opposed to that plan had it actually gone down.

153 Maine's Michael  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:56:11am

re: #128 Occasional Reader

re: #99 ZionistYoungster

So now it's not only the modern Zionism of the 19th-21th centuries that doesn't have a legitimate case for Jewish sovereignty over the Land of Israel--the ancient Zionism of 3,000 years ago didn't have any either.

Ironically, the Harper's article to which Nathan is referring really should lead to the opposite conclusion. The thrust of it is that the Jews were in the land of Israel all along; that is, they're the "aboriginal" people of that area, and therefore--by modern lights--are the "authentic" inhabitants.

The HArper stuff is just derivative of long extant theroies abot the nature and origin of the Israelites. One school of thought has them as being the hill people who harrased the coastal philistines and other more develoepd coastal societies - who were perhaps augmented by the arrival of ethnic realtives retrurning from Egypt in small numbers.

Who knows for sure?

One thing is certain, there were no arabs, no muslims, and certainly no 'palestinians'. Today's Israelis are the cultural (and also ethnic) descendants of the Israelites.

154 American Soldier  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:56:49am
However, I have been a member of Daily Kos for a few years now, and it would be a shame if I were banned for one provocative dairy.


Daily Kos- the milk of human kindness.


/drive-through

155 nev.  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:57:07am

Its times like these that I think the world is begging for the equivalent of a biblical flood.

156 JamesTKirk  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:57:37am

re: #103JamesTKirk

DailyKOS is the short bus of the internet.

re: #131 Cobra

Rotating title?

Do I get a bigger check from our Zionist masters if one of my quotes becomes a rotating title?

157 goodbye_natalie  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:58:15am

If I thought KKKos represented the American mindset, I would vote for Ahmadinejihadi too.

I would love to watch KKKos and his lackeys get a taste of what's in store, if only for a short time.

158 EC Marm  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:58:23am

Just turned CSPAN on. John Edwards is on right now. With the lighting direction it looks like he has fresh road kill sitting on top of his head.

159 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:58:36am

re: #122 Idle Drifter

though it wouldn't be a surprise if a few voted for him because they think he's better than Bush.

Have you read the comments? Selected samples:

but do allow me to say that Mr. A. is much more well-read, articulate and intelligent than Mr. GWB.

For what it's worth though, the Iranian leader doesn't seem to believe in privatizing everything in sight. They have free health care and education there.

Bush is guilty of war crimes that would get him judged guilty in the Hague and a life sentence

I'd love to have that saintly, brilliant statesman Ahmadinejad as president of the US, but he wasn't born here!

The sovereign people of Iran are responsible for their government, and we are responsible for ours. After the last six years, we have a lot more to answer for than do they.

Can Mahmoud meet my strict criteria? Can he "shock and awe me" like Bush can? Can he catch the really big fish in the middle of a national disaster, while thousands of his countrymen are dying, stranded, and homeless like Bush can? Can he cheat in a presidential debate like Bush can?

Is it possible to have a discussion with Bush about anything? I think Ahmadinejad actually listens.

Although, constitutionally, the Iranian president can act as commander-in-chief, he has that ability if and only if the Supreme Leader, Ayatollah Khamanei, sees fit to appoint him such. So far as I know this has not happened. In other words, Ahmedinejad has to listen to the grown-ups before doing anything truly stupid -- like launching an attack on someone.

160 JamesTKirk  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:58:50am

re: #134 Egfrow

re: #117 JamesTKirk


re: #22 Egfrow

I cry fowl!

You're just being chicken.

Duck! Duck! Goose!

This conversation is poultry in motion.

161 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:58:58am

re: #152 Sizzlack

What with WingTank Poopies and large Kabooms (and gaping holes) in the Chinless Dentist's arena, I don't think that one was necessary.

162 D'kian_  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:59:06am

"A liberal is a man too broad-minded to take his own side in a fight."

I'd appreciate if someone recognizes the source of this quote. Thanks.

163 Ben Hur  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:59:10am

A-had is on.

164 Sizzlack  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:59:19am

Why dont all those people who voted for Ahmadickhead actually show how much they meant it, and move to Iran where they can actually have him as their President...see how great their lives become....Fools.

165 father_of_10  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:59:51am

This guy voted for Our Mani in a Dinner Jacket... and rides the short bus.

166 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:59:58am

re: #163 Ben Hur

Is he on now? I'm still seeing Edwards.

167 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:00:25am

re: #141 JamesTKirk

It's obvious where the kos kiddies get thier info....
Right on campus! and the msn....

Every quote from that little POS would convince anyone
with 3 brain cells that he doesn't play well with infidels!
Thier attention span is is measured in the reverse when it
come to the facts.

168 Sizzlack  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:00:36am

re: #161 Cap'n DOC

The report was apparently from a few months ago, long before the strike in Syria.

169 goodbye_natalie  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:00:47am

re: #155 nev.

I think the next one is going to be more in the mode of fervent heat...think I would rather drown then burn.

170 tfc3rid  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:01:00am

Please live blog for us.

171 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:01:04am

re: #163 Ben Hur

Do we get a blow by blow? No TV.

172 Texas Joel  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:01:07am

re: #158 EC Marm

It is okay for him. He bought a "roadkill offset" from Al Gore so the total roadkill balance is unchanged.

173 madisonsfriend  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:01:27am

I am pretty sure Iran would let these people in. I f they want to be someplace without free speech, where gay people can be killed, where women have been arrested and beaten in the past few months for having hair showing under the veil or wearing too much make-up- well, they can go there. Now getting back in the USmay be a lot harder- but hey, they should go and live under Imanutjob if it is so bad here.

174 Ben Hur  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:02:12am

re: #166 Killgore Trout

re: #171 Cap'n DOC

I know.

They said 12 Eastern

Blow by blows get you killed in Iran.

[Link: www.c-span.org...]

175 amphibian  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:02:21am

Greetings, lizards, and happy Monday!

Frankly, I am surprised at such a high level of support for the President (ours, dammit!) among the Koslings.

And oh, by the way, thanks for ruining Dilbert for me. Take one day off for a religious holiday and you can't read funnies any more. Next I'll find out that coffee is bad for me, and then wher'll I be?

176 grayp  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:02:25am

re: #53 Killgore Trout

re: #39 ZionistYoungster

ChenZen pointed out last night that the diarist is actually a lizard. However the votes are from koskidz themselves.

Oh, no, they've been punked?! (who is the lizard?)

177 Egfrow  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:02:43am

The people who post on Kos are very sick people. I can't even believe the need to do a comparison.

178 HBob  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:02:44am

re: #137 ChristianRepublic

Why inflate kos's hit counter? Who cares what the village idotarian just said? Make them irrelevant by making them irrelevant: boycott kos.

It really is painfully obvious that kos punks only consider "will this make conservatives angry?" before they make any statement or take any action. Now, if we could somehow convince them we'd be really angry if they all renounced their citizenship and moved to Iran...

179 ElKafir  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:03:05am

The intelligent, educated, well informed, compassionate, open minded left.

So open minded, its brains are falling down on the floor.

180 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:03:07am

re: #150 AW

" Kos Kiddie Nation"
I'll get right on that!
HaHa!

181 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:03:19am
182 Texas Joel  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:03:30am

re: #162 D'kian_

"A liberal is a man too broad-minded to take his own side in a fight."

I'd appreciate if someone recognizes the source of this quote. Thanks.

Robert Frost.
quarrel vice fight

183 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:03:32am

Gravel: Let Ahmadinejad Go to Ground Zero

But Ahmadinejad is Iran's elected head of state and by snubbing him, we snub the Iranian government and its people. Right now, such a snub is not only wrong-headed, it's dangerous.

Sadly, most politicians find it much easier to fall back on tough talk, phony moralism and warmongering rather than try to explain the complex reality of international relations. Bush, Bloomberg, Lieberman, and most of my fellow Democratic presidential candidates want you to think the world is divided between good and evil and they are on 'the side of angels.'

Huffposters lapping it up.

Colmore (See profile | I'm a fan of Colmore)
Why was Bush allowed to visit ground zero? After all, he ignored all the warnings ahead of time. NO IRANIANS were involved with 9/11, so why should their president be barred from visiting the site? After his 60 Minutes interview, I was impressed. This man is intelligent, and knowledgeable. He probably knows more about the US than Thompson. When is the US going to get a leader with intellectual ability like him?
Log in | posted 11:37 am on 09/24/2007
184 SeattleSE  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:03:49am

OT:

Sorry to go off topic but I think that this is really interesting. Apparently, the New York Times has a policy of giving MoveOn.org preferential ad rates for their hit ads.

185 pat  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:03:52am
186 Ben Hur  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:04:15am

I'm seeing Coatsworth.

Moron.

187 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:04:33am
188 Cobra  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:04:38am

re: #156 JamesTKirk

re: #103JamesTKirk

DailyKOS is the short bus of the internet.

re: #131 Cobra
Rotating title?

Do I get a bigger check from our Zionist masters if one of my quotes becomes a rotating title?

Don't think so. What I believe to be one of mine, ("you want fries with that?"), had no effect on my checks. It's still $18,465.17 monthly, same as always.

189 goodbye_natalie  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:04:57am

re: #159 Occasional Reader

For what it's worth though, the Iranian leader doesn't seem to believe in privatizing everything in sight. They have free health care and education there.

So why do the Iranians keep coming over here? If I were a KKKos Kid, I'd be scooting on over the Tehran ASAP.

Don't answer. The KKKos kids wouldn't understand anything of logic or depth. They'll just keep going to the emergency room to let the taxpayer pay for their ongoing drug abuse. That's free too if you don't mind a 10 hour wait.

190 EC Marm  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:05:02am

re: #172 Texas Joel

It is okay for him. He bought a "roadkill offset" from Al Gore so the total roadkill balance is unchanged.

Maybe I got it wrong and it's really "Hare Club for Men".

191 Honorary Yooper  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:05:13am

Read the comment section below the diary. The Koslings show their true colors so readily. They are so partisan that they'd slice off their head to spite their body.

192 Golem Akbar  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:05:16am

re: #181 buzzsawmonkey

re: #153 Maine's Michael


Today's Israelis are the cultural (and also ethnic) descendants of the Israelites.

Some people set store by this because of the anti-Israel theory of "interloping descendants of Khazar converts."

However, if a native-born American jailhouse convert to Islam is considered to be sufficiently hundred-percent Muslim to be part of the Ummah, with full traveling-to-Mecca rights, and a potentially legitimate spokesman for Islam, why the hell should it make any difference if Jewish converts, or their descendants, have a stake in the Land of Israel?

I am not saying that today's Jews are not descended from the Jews of yore; there is abundant genetic evidence that they are. I'm just saying that convert status is considered utterly immaterial as far as the enemies of the Jews are concerned; it is only when Jews are at issue that it comes up.


Quick note: it's racism to say that modern-days are not really Jews.

193 Iron Fist  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:05:42am

re: #156 JamesTKirk,

Your check will be multiplied 100 fold. Really :-)

194 SeattleSE  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:06:41am

re: #184 SeattleSE

OT:

Sorry to go off topic but I think that this is really interesting. Apparently, the New York Times has a policy of giving MoveOn.org preferential ad rates for their hit ads.

"We paid this rate before, so we recognized it," Pariser told the Times.

If this is a pattern of conduct on behalf of the Times, when does it go from being a "mistake" to being a criminal violation of FEC rules?

Sorry, the link got screwed up by my too clever use of of bold. Here it is.

195 beblebrox  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:07:14am

re: #147 JamesTKirk

re: #120 beblebrox

Everything Harry says is a lie. Remember that, Norman. *Everything* he says is a lie.

You're stealing my best lines.

sorry, it's in my blood. ;)

196 Texas Joel  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:07:42am

re: #159 Occasional Reader

re: #122 Idle Drifter

though it wouldn't be a surprise if a few voted for him because they think he's better than Bush.
Have you read the comments? Selected samples:
but do allow me to say that Mr. A. is much more well-read, articulate and intelligent than Mr. GWB.

For what it's worth though, the Iranian leader doesn't seem to believe in privatizing everything in sight. They have free health care and education there.


Free health care = after you lose your hand in court the bailiff makes sure the wound is clean and closed before you get thrown to the mob.
Free education = for men

If I had any confidence in government intervention I would say that Kos shows we do need more longer deeper free school for about fifty percent of this country.

197 funky chicken  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:07:47am

Sorry if it was already discussed, but I just emailed this to Charles:

[Link: www.solomonia.com...]

Do we really have no choice under our "treaty obligations," as some insist? History says otherwise.
In 1983, after the Soviet Union shot down Korean Air Lines flight 007, Soviet Foreign Minister Andrei Gromyko canceled a trip to the U.N. after Governor Mario Cuomo of New York and Governor Thomas Kean of New Jersey (not exactly rabid right-wingers) both vowed not to allow a Soviet plane to land in their states.

In 1988, the Reagan Administration denied Arafat a visa to speak to the U.N. because he was a terrorist. The U.N. General Assembly passed a resolution condemning the United States, and then packed up and moved to Geneva, where Arafat was warmly embraced...

198 JamesTKirk  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:08:07am

re: #162 D'kian_

"A liberal is a man too broad-minded to take his own side in a fight."

I'd appreciate if someone recognizes the source of this quote. Thanks.

Robert Lee Frost

199 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:08:17am
200 JamesTKirk  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:09:47am

re: #173 madisonsfriend

I am pretty sure Iran would let these people in...

Sure, it would be great propaganda, just like those defectives who defected to the USSR.

201 funky chicken  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:09:49am

I wish the bastards had just stayed in Geneva.

202 HBob  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:10:23am

re: #182 Texas Joel

re: #162 D'kian_

"A liberal is a man too broad-minded to take his own side in a fight."

I'd appreciate if someone recognizes the source of this quote. Thanks.

Robert Frost.
quarrel vice fight

"My mind, it ain't so open, that anything can crawl right in."
Howard Devoto

203 THX-42  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:12:19am

Actually, I find DailyKos plays a vital role in our society. It keeps the mentally ill off our streets and out of taxpayer-funded institutions. It is a virtual equivalent of padded walls and bataka free-for-alls 24x7. It's definitely a public service.

204 amphibian  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:13:25am

re: #40 MandyManners

re: #28 JammieWearingFool


I may have to go with Mahmoud over The Pantsuit.

/


Not I. Hillary might talk you to distraction but, ShortShit will cut my head off.

All right, how's about, the little hairy man, or Rosie O'blubber?

205 Texas Joel  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:15:51am

re: #190 EC Marm

re: #172 Texas Joel


It is okay for him. He bought a "roadkill offset" from Al Gore so the total roadkill balance is unchanged.
Maybe I got it wrong and it's really "Hare Club for Men".

So his hair is grey and cracks wise while he tries to talk.

206 Christinewjc  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:16:43am

Sorry to break up the fun here, but I could use some help locating an article.

This morning, the real truth finally came out. In a Fox News interview with former ambassador Marc Ginsburg, much more intricate details were revealed about why Columbia University would invite that despicable I'm in a jihad president of Iran and give a terrorist like him a platform to spew more of his lies and dangerous, hateful rhetoric.

Former Ambassador Marc Ginsberg appeared on Fox News today, and I am currently actively looking for the op-ed piece that he mentioned during the interview. He said he wrote about the formidable relationship between a Columbia U. alumnus (I think) and another "person" who has a long history of ties with Iran.

With the threat that Iran is gaining nuclear weapons; the regular pronouncements of the Iranian Madman who wishes to "wipe Israel off the map" and incites crowds in his country to chant "death to America." it is beyond belief that an American university would even want such a creep to appear on campus.

I have so many questions! When Mr. Ginsberg shared the information of the "connections" during his appearance on Fox News, it was then that I realized how much more details need to come out about the Columbia U. president's decision to host the Iranian madman. I wondered, what could possibly be the reason that this CU president would go through with this, despite all the protests of so many Americans?

I predict that when Mr. Ginsberg's informative article is widely shared (hopefully the MSM will get their heads out of the sand and report it!), many U.S. citizens (except, of course, the Kos kidz) will be led to wonder why aren't American traitors like these being investigated?

I just knew that there had to be more to this story than what the MSM was reporting.

I tuned in to the interview session a bit too late to write down where the essay was printed/posted, or any of the names and exact details. I am currently searching for either a link to the Fox News video or a link to Mr. Ginsberg's essay.

If any commenter here locates the essay or video, would you be kind enough to either post the link in the comment section at my Talkwisdom blog or here in this comment section? Thanks.

207 JamesTKirk  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:17:10am

re: #203 THX-42

Actually, I find DailyKos plays a vital role in our society. It keeps the mentally ill off our streets and out of taxpayer-funded institutions. It is a virtual equivalent of padded walls and bataka free-for-alls 24x7. It's definitely a public service.

It doesn't keep them off the streets, as long as they can get free wireless camping out in front of Starbucks.

208 deesine  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:17:12am

Now can we question their patriotism?

209 ChristianRepublic  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:18:08am

re: #178 HBob

re: #137 ChristianRepublic


Why inflate kos's hit counter? Who cares what the village idotarian just said? Make them irrelevant by making them irrelevant: boycott kos.

It really is painfully obvious that kos punks only consider "will this make conservatives angry?" before they make any statement or take any action. Now, if we could somehow convince them we'd be really angry if they all renounced their citizenship and moved to Iran...


I've been told that I could sell straw hats to eskimoes, but I dn't think that I could hold a straight face long enough to use reverse psyche to such an extreme extent.

210 Alouette  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:18:11am

re: #79 rab3

IDF who combed the home encountered a pregnant woman sitting on a bed. When asked to move she refused, claiming that she felt ill and that there was nothing to see under the bed. The soldiers made her get up and discovered a-Ez in the underground hole.

He's so Ez

(Sorry, Lizards, I couldn't help myself.)

211 ROPMA  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:18:22am

The problem is that these IDGITS vote in real elections.

212 Alouette  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:22:02am

re: #99 ZionistYoungster

OT and linkage: on CounterPunch, in the article "A Good Year for Etrogs", Debbie Nathan suddenly forgets to dress Leftist Jew-hatred in anti-Zionism and goes for Judaism proper. Excerpts:


Nice story, but only that - a story - according to revisionist archaeologists. Lately they've found evidence suggesting the Jews were plotzed in Canaan the whole time the Bible has them enslaved in Egypt, then wandering the Sinai. As reported by Daniel Lazare in Harper's a few years ago, competing desert tribes from the period, including Jews, spun "wandering" and "conquest" myths to lay claim to land they'd never been kicked out of but were simply trying to hold onto, in part by spinning elaborate rationales.

Debbie Nathan's cute-as-a-fucking-button writing style with lame Yiddishisms sprinkled like poppy seeds reminds me of somebody who posts here.

213 Osama Bin Porkchop  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:23:30am

Farking loons.....

214 Eowyn2  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:24:09am

re: #11 scottthecanuck

Hey I know its just the Kos-asses but if we get Dinnerjacket on the ballot in all 50 states it might be enough to split the vote aka Nader anf give the GOP the whitehouse in 08.


For a Canuck you sure understand US politics.

215 OldLineTexan  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:27:40am

Good news for KosKids...you CAN have lil' Hitler as your very own President.

Just move to Iran. I understand from you all that it's a great nation with none of the US' many ills. What are you waiting for?

Buh-Bye!

OldLineTexan

216 Sabraguy  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:29:38am

Only 45% want the Islamofascist? If they had the option of choosing Adolf Hitler, I think the percentage would have been far higher.

217 LoneSome Journey  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:35:07am

Could there be a better reason to implement a test for common sense and rational thinking before allowing a person to vote?

It is so frightening to realize that one day these children may elect the next president of the US. The democrat "candidates" in the past 4 elections have been horrible to say the least. The current crop is even worse and with the children at daily kos and the lunatics at moveon dot org controlling who gets the nomination, I shudder to think of what will happen in my "golden years", if they don't mandate liquidation of senior-senior citizens.

218 Roger  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:39:23am

Now
57% President Bush 181 votes
42% Terrorist Sponsor Ahmadinejad 131 votes

219 DoubleU  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 9:48:51am

Of course they would rather have someone like Ahmadinejad as their leader. They believe in total control over people's lives and death to anyone who falls out of line. Why is this shocking?

220 D'kian_  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 10:10:06am

re: #182 Texas Joel

re: #162 D'kian_


"A liberal is a man too broad-minded to take his own side in a fight."

I'd appreciate if someone recognizes the source of this quote. Thanks.


Robert Frost.
quarrel vice fight

Thank you and JamesTKirk for the valuable info.

D'kian's addition: "Or to choose his own life over that of the enemy."

221 Maine's Michael  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 10:12:31am

re: #181 buzzsawmonkey

Exactly. There is admixture into Jewish stock, no question, but there are also clear genetic links to the Israelites among most Jews, particularly Cohanim (priestly subtribe).

Arabs around the Mediterranean basin are so admixed with the blood of the various foreign interlopers into the region that them making a claim they are the blood descendants of the ancient inhabitants of Judea and Samaria is simply ridiculous, especially when considering the fact that even the 'arab' component of their ethnicity only spilled out of the arabian peninsula in the 500-700's, AD.

222 Lorenska  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 10:15:13am

This is the kind of thing I want broadcast on all the news networks - rational people need to see that these nutjobs, who try to seem so logical and reasonable when speaking about the war and other things, are really raving lunatics. Then maybe people will stop giving them ANY credence and treating them as the traitors they are - this should be the lead on the 6:00 news, rather than the recent top story on the LA newscast (I'm not making this up) about how many shoes people own these days. What the hell is wrong with our media?

223 jester6  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 10:20:56am

Charles,

Could you post a Hillary vs. DinnerJacket poll with the same wording? It would be nice to see the comparison.

224 mattm  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 10:22:50am

I'm suprized that the KosKiddies would actually support Bush over Dinnerjacket.

225 shiek al beif salami  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 10:24:57am

Let's see: one cruise missile at, oh say, $1,500,000 per missile plus another $500,000 for overhead and maintenance divided by, mmm, $1500 per one way ticket plus per diem for two travel days and miscellaneous charges and fees to round it up to $2000 per emigre' = 1000 moonbats sent to Iran for the cost of one cruise missile.

All I can say is

GIVE PEACE A CHANCE, PEOPLE.

226 krypto  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 10:33:04am

The same moonbats would vote for Hitler over any Republican. Too bad they can't selectively be given what they ask for without imposing it on the rest of us. It would be interesting to see how they would vote if they really had to live under Hitler, or Ahmadinejad, and not just talk it up about how they think it would be better.

227 the historian  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 10:33:25am

We know that Imadimjihad is not constitutionally eligible to be president here so the best solution to this problem is for the Kos 45% to move on to Tehran. Advice: they need to have their papers in order before going since we will not hear from them again. But they will get their presidential wish.

www.greensrealworld.blogspot.com

228 Carol Herman  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 10:41:12am

Sorry, without a "Ron Paul" choice on the "lists" ... it just ain't accurate.

Ron Paul ... and his Paulettes ... who have come out of top.

But it's just the tip of the iceberg.

Plenty of flakes are inside that cereal box.

229 JeremyR  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 10:41:42am

re: #6 phil flavin

You're an ass. Seriously, if you really want them gone, we will all need to contribute more. I can spare $50, and probably another next week.

230 Cobra  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 10:44:49am

re: #223 jester6

Charles,

Could you post a Hillary vs. DinnerJacket poll with the same wording? It would be nice to see the comparison.

Excellent idea!
Seconded.

231 cookielady  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 10:52:23am

re: #120 beblebrox

Everything Harry says is a lie. Remember that, Norman. *Everything* he says is a lie.

Harcourt Fenton Mudd!

232 JeremyR  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:00:05am

re: #230 Cobra

Heck, for that matter, add an Osamma vs Obama poll. Dems would be clueless.

Second thought, better not, some KOS kids think they are the same guy.

233 Lawrence Schmerel  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:13:57am

This is great news.

54% of people who are afflicted with Bush Derangement Syndrome would still rather have George W. Bush as president than Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

234 AZDave  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:25:09am

re: #12 rab3

re: #6 phil flavin

re: #5 jcm

Let's buy one way tickets for the 56 to Iran, and check back with 'em in a year. See how they like it.

HEAR HEAR! I'll throw in 20$!

Don't forget the "I'm a human shield Useful Idiot T-shirt"

Much better.

235 AZDave  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:32:20am

re: #40 MandyManners

re: #28 JammieWearingFool

I may have to go with Mahmoud over The Pantsuit.

/

Not I. Hillary might talk you to distraction but, ShortShit will cut my head off.

Don't hold your breath. Good ole Hill will send your ass of to some God forsaken gulag in northern Alaska. (She's a strict Stalinist.)

236 AZDave  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:45:50am

re: #142 Sizzlack

Oh man this is too funny. These kids are idiots. They bitch and moan about how Bush took away their "civil liberties", which I have yet to notice in my everyday life. Well if they think its oh so terrible under Czar Bush what the hell do they think is gonna happen with Ahmadipshit at President. This illustrates how absolutely uninformed they are, as Ahmadickhead actually does take away civil liberties. I know Kos is a pathetic website but I used to at least think they were legit, as far as the Dems were concerned....but this has officially shown me how absolutely out of touch with reality these people are, and once again makes me think the only people who write stuff there are students from UC Berkley and 12th graders from San Francisco.

Don't forget those from the People's Republic of Boulder, Co.

237 PeggyU  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:39:59pm

Forty-five per cent of them would rather have Ahmadinejad as president? And they had the temerity to call Terry Schiavo brain dead? Does this mean we no longer have to feed and water these people? I mean, isn't that how we deal with the hopeless?

238 southernborn  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 3:00:07pm

nothing like a poll that also shows your iq

239 southernborn  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 3:05:23pm

re: #160 JamesTKirk


LMAO

240 mondoreb  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 4:31:05pm

re: #166 Killgore Trout

Kilgore, I know the hour is late. But if you ever return to this thread, you'll see you're immortalized as an undercover lizard for LGF.

In the lonely night somewhere, a lone wolf howls.
And a lizard laughs manically, "BAAWWWWAHAAHAAAHAHHH"!

241 sngnsgt  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 6:19:21pm

I would rather have as President of the United States...

George Bush
64% 566 votes

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
36% 313 votes

Why doesn't this 36% just go live with their chosen leader in Iran?

242 laxmatt1984  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:37:56pm

re: #240 mondoreb

Well, as the author of said poll and diary, I can assure you I'm not an undercover Lizard. (Not to mention Kilgore Trout has already figured this out.)

Just to follow up on an earlier comment, I do not entirely identify with the politics of either site (and my politics, if you must know, is of the Christopher Hitchens, Reason Magazine, and Penn Jillette stripe - so it's fair to say I'm much closer to LFG than Kos. It's just that many Lizards are clearly of the religious right kind - which I don't support.)

Someone earlier said I was a "spineless Jellyfish" - meh, I consider myself pretty stubborn actually, and maybe it's just my youthful naivete, or plain idiocy, but I like to think it's possibly to mingle among both LGF and Kos without drawing too much flak.

Before a good number of Lizards - and random passer-bys - skewed the polls, it was running about 55% - 45% Bush. That's a pretty disturbing number, and though a lot of Kossacks felt I presented a false choice (and unfortunately almost all of my comments have since been hidden), I feel it may be a very real choice soon. And it's something, frankly, Kossacks should think hard and honestly about.

243 laxmatt1984  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:39:45pm

re: #242 laxmatt1984

I should expand on the "not undercover Lizard" comment. I posted that diary in good with, knowing it was provocative, in the hopes of sparking some thought among a few readers. The response was a bit more heated than I expected, but meh, whatever.

244 laxmatt1984  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:40:11pm

Good faith*, not good with, obviously.

245 DU Jimbo  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 8:46:04pm

O. Mi. God.

I'm going to have to head over there and knock some sense into their heads.


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