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Ahmadinejad's Columbia Speech, Thread 2

Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 11:33:05 am PDT

Here’s another thread to discuss the thug-in-chief’s appearance at Columbia’s Distinguished Speaker lecture series.

Lots of readers seem to think Columbia president Lee Bollinger deserves credit for his opening speech. I don’t. I think it was an attempt to redeem his reputation and keep the money flowing in from alumni, and does not even begin to make up for the atrocity of giving this creature a podium at one of America’s most prestigious schools.

UPDATE at 9/24/07 11:35:08 am:

The students in the audience are laughing along with Ahmadinejad and applauding him.

UPDATE at 9/24/07 11:45:45 am:

You can watch this travesty live over the web at C-SPAN3.

UPDATE at 9/24/07 11:47:14 am:

The Kos Kidz weigh in on Lee Bollinger: Daily Kos: Bollinger’s Diatribe.

As an American, I was stunned and embarrassed by Bollinger’s harangue of Ahmedinejad.  It was a craven and cowardly capitulation to political pressures, and unworthy of the academic institution that Bollinger represents.  I know who and what Ahmedinejad is, but I also know that he was at Columbia at Columbia’s invitation.  Bollinger’s speech was less a challenge to Ahmedinejad than it was an ambush, and it dishonered all of us as Americans.

Bollinger could have challenged Ahmedinejad’s many hyperbolic and absurd statements in a manner that was not abusive and insulting.  He chose instead to curry favor with those who are intent on demonizing Iran and plunging the U.S. into another illegal and immoral war.

Bollinger’s behavior was inappropriate.  It presented to the world the face of an ugly and bullying America.  I am utterly humiliated that Bollinger should have behaved this way.

UPDATE at 9/24/07 11:58:33 am:

Line of the day: “In Iran, we don’t have homosexuals like you do in this country.”

Students applauded again when he said the US has no right to question their pursuit of nuclear weapons.

UPDATE at 9/24/07 12:11:37 pm:

Ahmadinejad finished by thanking everyone, and got a round of thunderous applause, with cheers.

And Columbia dean John Coatsworth went over to him and shook his hand.

UPDATE at 9/24/07 12:29:52 pm:

President Bush once referred to Iran as a member of the “Axis of Evil.”

Today he said this.

Earlier Monday, President Bush said that while he’s “not sure” he would have offered the head of a state sponsor of terror a platform from which to outline his agenda, he thinks it’s OK that Columbia University did invite Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to speak.

“This is a place of high learning and if the president (of Columbia) thinks it’s a good idea to have the leader from Iran come and talk to the students as an educational experience, I guess it’s OK with me,” Bush told FOX News in an interview. “The problem is Ahmadinejad uses these platforms to advance his agenda, which I suspect in this case ... He doesn’t want America to know his true intentions.”

UPDATE at 9/24/07 1:00:04 pm:

The only moment where the student audience really parted ways with Ahmadinejad is when he said, “In Iran we don’t have homosexuals like in your country:” Video: There are no gays in Iran, says Ahmadinejad.

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1 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:33:48am

Boos!

2 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:33:51am

I had more fun at my last root canal...

3 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:34:55am

He's done ranting... praise be... answer the question, nitwit.

4 new2thezoo  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:35:22am

We love all nations and the Jewish nation... (lie)

it's Zion he wants to rid the planet of... buddy it's the same thing.

5 Lawrence Schmerel  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:36:08am

Thanks, but I am not going to watch this. I will wait for the highlights and commentary.

6 Charles  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:36:13am

Applauding him again.

7 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:36:32am

Big applause from the useful idiots.

8 Scooter  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:36:37am

Uhhh...... the Palestinians made a choice. As usual it was the wrong one.

9 Globular Cluster  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:36:46am

Bollinger and everyone else who has followed the madman's "ideas" knew that he couldn's say anything new or academically interesting. The only result of giving him a platform to repeat his typical BS is to legitimize him by virtue of his presence.

10 wee fury  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:36:58am

Wow. Answer yes or no.

11 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:36:58am

Heh.

12 jcm  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:36:59am

re: #3 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

He's done ranting... praise be... answer the question, nitwit.

Answer from previous thread.

I have two I remember.

Koof ti zaramar. (Spit of a snake)

Pedar e sag. (Father of a dog)

both could provoke fist-o-cuffs.

13 Charles  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:37:02am

More applause.

14 Globular Cluster  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:37:20am

Yes or no answer please.

15 TeamDub  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:37:42am

I simply cannot believe the applause.

Good G*d.

16 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:37:45am

A tough follow-up. He danced again.

17 new2thezoo  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:37:49am

He won't answer it so move on...
We already know the answer... he would blow it to bits in a heart beat.

18 gmsc  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:38:03am

I've turned to Mythbusters over on the discovery channel. They're shooting up cars. Actually, it's fun to switch between their shooting and Un-mended Dinner Jacket. It gives one hope.

19 Scooter  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:38:04am

The translator is definitely biased, eh? She finally became animated when he started ranting about the Palis.

20 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:38:07am

Dodges the question, and gets applause.

21 Ballistic Renegade  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:38:07am

He can't answer a simple yes or no to the first question.

Translation - YES!

22 Globular Cluster  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:38:08am

Dumbass students applauding at Achmedinajad's justification for his refusal to answer a question.

23 tedzilla99  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:38:14am

Universities are full of these idiots...the future of this country is in big trouble

24 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:38:29am
The students in the audience are laughing along with Ahmadinejad and applauding him.

How disgusting can it get?

/that's rhetorical

25 SonOfLiberty  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:38:30am

Of course Dinnerjacket thinks that the holocaust didn't happen. To him, it's not a holocaust, it's Allah's will and retribution upon jews. To him, it was a gift.

26 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:38:38am

What you have in your mind will happen?

27 JeffWinNJ  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:38:50am

Security please remove this maniacal tyrant from the campus please.

28 Charles  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:38:52am

"The Iranian nation is a victim of terrorism."

29 Ballistic Renegade  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:38:53am

#19 Scooter - I agree - noticed that too

30 Sizzlack  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:38:55am

He has yet to answer a single question.

His balls are so big he might want to get them checked out to make sure he doesnt have cancer.

31 Dave the.....  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:39:04am

Did Bollinger say he is lifting the ban on the ROTC?

32 loppyd  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:39:21am

Of course he is answering a question with a question

33 Charles  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:39:24am

This line is really going to get applause.

34 Tumulus11  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:39:28am

'We love all nations. The Israeli people are our friends.'

. Where is that lightning bolt?

He answers the Israel question with a question and the moonbats cheer.

Next question: terrorism - answers with a question and answers the question himself.

35 CLLRusso  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:39:29am

The applause must be from the Palestinian supporters and other dingbats.

36 rab3  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:39:38am

Pie in the face please.

37 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:39:39am

Dinnerjacket's getting a little pissed. Heh.

38 judymac  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:39:41am

What a bullsh*tter! Look at his face, being asked to say "yes" or "no" about the existence of Isreal - what a whining weasel.

He never answered the question, btw.

EVERY time a question is asked of him, he poses another question. The Democrats have nothing on this guy - he's as slick as they are.

Then again - who ever thought we'd get a straight answer out of this guy?

39 jcm  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:39:53am

Dinnerjacket doesn't like to be pinned down.

40 mama winger  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:39:57am

This is what happens when you give evil a forum. No one should be surprised.

41 Ballistic Renegade  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:39:58am

I want Dick Cheney there to question him...or take him hunting.

42 MellyMel  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:40:00am

"26 years ago..." -- I thought we weren't allowed to talk about the past.

43 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:40:22am

re: #12 jcm

Thanks. Spit of Snake. Gotta remember that one.

44 Charles  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:40:34am

More applause.

45 SummerSong  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:40:41am

This CNN translator...

quite the dramatic actress.

46 blbfootballs  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:40:47am

It doesn't get more sickening than this.

47 Globular Cluster  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:40:54am

"Americans are terrorists, Iran objects to terrorists. "

Cue applause from students.

48 Tumulus11  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:40:59am

. And the moonbats applaud H_tler.
Disgusting.

49 towerclimber37  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:41:19am

what a dog and pony show

50 loppyd  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:41:21am

we were the first nation to object to terrorism....

51 mama winger  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:41:26am

This is supposed to be an excercise for students to learn how to engage in diplomacy. That's what the Columbia spokesman said on TV this morning.

How do you think it's going?

52 Scooter  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:41:36am

What a whiny beotch.

Yeah, loosing someone to terrorism is sad, isn't it? I remember losing someone in Beirut.

POS

53 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:41:39am

Iran! First to fight terrorism!

[applause]

54 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:41:39am

The root cause of terrorism? It's the koran.

55 JonathanD  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:41:47am

Was he invited to Columbia U. or was his appearing a precondition for releasing a Columbia Alumni? Odd coincidence.
------
[Link: www.cnsnews.com...]

Columbia Alumnus Freed in Iran in Advance of Ahmadinejad's Speech
By Susan Jones
CNSNews.com Senior Editor
September 24, 2007

(CNSNews.com) - The president of Columbia University is expressing relief that a Columbia alumnus was released from an Iranian prison -- just days before the Iranian president is scheduled to speak at Columbia University.

Dr. Kian Tajbakhsh, who works for George Soros's Open Society Institute, was one of several Iranian-Americans detained by Iran for allegedly conspiring against Iran's national security.

Tajbakhsh was freed on bail last Thursday. Iranian President Mahmoud Amadinejad is speaking at Columbia on Monday, and the invitation for him to appear on campus has drawn widespread condemnation from politicians and ordinary Americans, who view Amadinejad as an enemy of the United States and Israel.

In a statement on the Columbia University Web site, President Lee C. Bollinger said that he was among the "chorus of voices" calling on the Iranian government to free Dr. Tajbakhsh, a graduate of Columbia's Graduate School of Architecture, Planning and Preservation.

"In recent discussions with the Iranian Mission, I communicated that I would raise his case, among many other issues, directly and publicly if President Ahmadinejad came to speak on our campus," Bollinger said in the statement.

"Dr. Tajbakhsh's belated release on bail should not change our determination to challenge the regime's record of unjust imprisonment and repression of such scholars, journalists and advocates working for a freer society in Iran," Bollinger added.

56 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:42:03am

re: #34 Tumulus11

The bolt is in some deep compartment of a US carrier, probably.

57 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:42:11am

He was just passed a note: "HIDDEN IMAM STILL A NO-SHOW; KEEP TALKING"

58 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:42:25am

re: #23 tedzilla99

Universities are full of these idiots...the future of this country is in big trouble

no shit.
the future journalists of America.

59 mama winger  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:42:27am

The translator loves this guy.

60 DistantThunder  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:42:38am

sociopathy!

61 Ballistic Renegade  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:43:01am

That mic looks kinda fallic....like what's on top of his shoulders.

62 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:43:23am

Justifying Holocaust denial as "scientific research".

SPIT SPIT SPIT

63 gijoe  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:43:24am

whatanut.

64 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:43:28am

re: #55 JonathanD

Very interesting.

65 madisonsfriend  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:43:28am

I didn't watch- have there been any student protesters in the audience? Anyone with the guts to do something- wave an Israeli flag, show a photo fromthe Holocaust, wear a shirt saying" no Murderers wanted here"?

66 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:43:29am

America is terrorizing Iran? You ain't seen nuthin' yet you little pimple.

67 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:43:33am

re: #56 Ojoe

It will find him too.

68 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:43:38am

Questioning need to do further research on Holocaust research? For what purpose. That was an awful question.

Ahmadinejad is questioning the Holocaust's existence, and supports holocaust deniers.

69 John3-16  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:43:42am

I can't imagine that it would sound much different if any of the current Democrat hopefuls were to stand up in front of the same student body and debate themselves.

70 new2thezoo  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:43:47am

More research on the Holocaust... dang... he would have been a charter member of the SS in WW2. Let's give him a 'Global Warming Grant' to research it some more. He come up with the same conclusion. Why muck it up with facts?

71 lance  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:43:50am

Semi-OT....the paranoia is palpable today at the Globe and Mail:

Gordon Biddy from Vancouver, Canada writes: Israel and it's Zionist policies are the only problem.

Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Afghanistan, Syria are just in the way. Scapegoats who's deeds and misdeeds are blown out of proportion to serve the purpose of Israel and it's puppet-state, the US.

This isn't a conspiracy theory because it isn't a theory: there is more than enough evidence, historical and present, to overwhelmingly prove this as fact.

We gentiles are witnessing the mid-stages of a very well orchestrated, ongoing, and longe-lived campaign to place Israel and it's beliefs, values, world-view, and citizenry, at the centre of the Western world.

We have been so mislead and deceived--just look around and see where the bombs are falling, who is dying, who is in prison, who is loosing land, who is expanding, who is impoverished, who is rich, who is oppressed, and who claims to be free, and who is benefiting from the status quo.

The pattern of this truth is so easily seen for those willing to scratch the centuries of sleep out of their eyes...

Quick, I have to alert my Jewish masters.....

72 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:43:55am

Denying he's a denier. Amazing!

73 me  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:43:58am

Investigate G-d !? Did I hear that?

Blasphemy by nutjob!

74 Scooter  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:44:14am

I've changed my mind about bombing Iran.

75 jcm  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:44:33am

re: #57 Occasional Reader

He was just passed a note: "HIDDEN IMAM STILL A NO-SHOW; KEEP TALKING"

Coffee on screen!

76 vagabond trader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:44:41am

What? Research for an event that the perpetrators so efficiently documented? btw, my cat suddenly started chasing his tail and acting out.Kitty is the best BS meter around.

77 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:44:50am

Is this man capable of a coherent thought?

/don't bother answering that.

78 BartlebyTheScrivener  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:44:53am

I love when he calls himself an academic. That's a hoot.

79 ElKafir  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:45:11am

Dead man rambling.

80 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:45:21am

This perfectly civil questioner trying to explain his question, the nature of empiricism, etc. Um, you don't get it, do you? He's evil. He wants to kill us. It's not because of some flaw in his logic.

81 tappin52  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:45:23am

He's arguing that science and logic should implore us to keep studying whether the Holocaust occurred. Unbelieveable........but he does seem to be getting flustered.

82 Paco from Sefarad  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:45:24am

1+1=2
2+2=4

Who says?

Why be empirical?

We need more research!

83 blbfootballs  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:45:32am

re: #51 mama winger

This is supposed to be an excercise for students to learn how to engage in diplomacy. That's what the Columbia spokesman said on TV this morning.

How do you think it's going?

I think this is exactly what the students can expect in the world of "diplomacy". It's very representative.

84 littleoldlady  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:45:49am

re: #51 mama winger

This is supposed to be an excercise for students to learn how to engage in diplomacy. That's what the Columbia spokesman said on TV this morning.

How do you think it's going?

"Kids, if you answer any of the questions on this test the way AhmaAmelek did in his speech to Columbia...we get to flunk you."

/how's that for a lesson?

85 Dianna  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:45:50am

I think he's melting down.

86 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:45:56am

Must have been some really large endowments at risk. Clearly you are correct Charles. Thank you.

87 christheprofessor  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:46:00am

Why doesn't he just ask: Did the Holocaust occur?

88 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:46:04am

re: #79 ElKafir

My thoughts exactly.

89 Potfry  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:46:17am

Uh, oh. Maybe the interpreter got a word wrong and is being "retrained."

90 new2thezoo  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:46:33am

Woman rights... genuine and true... (they are free to be hanged anytime we feel like it.)

91 SummerSong  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:46:41am

"nothing known as absolute"

Yeah? Including Allah?

92 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:46:44am

He's got his propaganda victory. It'll play well in the Iranian media.

93 loppyd  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:46:47am

women in Iran enjoy the highest levels of freedom....

94 shifty  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:46:51am

I'm going to use this against Yankee fans who claim that they have won 26 world series. More research needs to be done.

95 loppyd  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:47:11am

Hi Ward!

96 mama winger  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:47:15am

People.

I give you the face of Hitler 2.0.

Never thought it could happen again. But here we are.

97 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:47:20am

The Iranian people are free?! The iranian women have the highest level of freedom?!

Iranian trooferism?

98 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:47:22am

Ahmadinejad will continue demanding revisionist holocaust studies until they can discover that it didn't occur - that's the subtext.

Still, Ahmadinejad is latching on to the whole notion of criminalizing Holocaust denial - a thought crime.

99 george ford  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:48:11am

His answers never seem to coincide with the question asked.

100 Egfrow  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:48:13am

This is an absolute propaganda windfall for him. Bollinger is a lightweight compared to this fascist. He didn't become president of Iran for no reason. He's the mullahs front man to the west.

101 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:48:15am

Appaluse for that?! WTF is wrong with these kids?!

102 JeffWinNJ  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:48:15am

He's really avoiding the gay question. Wait a minute, he's avoided every question.

103 Just_A_Grunt  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:48:17am

re: #96 mama winger
He doesn't have the military muscle to back up his bravado,...yet.

104 varmint  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:48:23am

"Iranian freedoms are true freedoms"

he said this in response to a question about the oppression of women. wow.

i'm waiting for someone to ask where he was in 1979. did he have anything to do with the hostage taking?

105 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:48:25am

Oh, my. "You have capital punishment in the US, too", followed by applause. Uh, yes, we do, for killers. You do for teenage girls who get raped.

106 new2thezoo  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:48:30am

One thing for sure... he hasn't had this kind of grilling ever. I wish he would have been invited by the Heritage Foundation. Then you would really some BBQ.

107 KingPhin  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:48:46am

Hah, they applauded over Iran executing drug trafficers, yet I wonder how many of the audience would label us a police state/fascists.

108 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:48:50am

re: #96 mama winger

Let us not make the mistake of letting him arm, like we let hitler arm.

109 madisonsfriend  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:48:54am

re: #71 lance

Semi-OT....the paranoia is palpable today at the Globe and Mail:


Gordon Biddy from Vancouver, Canada writes: Israel and it's Zionist policies are the only problem.

Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Afghanistan, Syria are just in the way. Scapegoats who's deeds and misdeeds are blown out of proportion to serve the purpose of Israel and it's puppet-state, the US.

This isn't a conspiracy theory because it isn't a theory: there is more than enough evidence, historical and present, to overwhelmingly prove this as fact.

We gentiles are witnessing the mid-stages of a very well orchestrated, ongoing, and longe-lived campaign to place Israel and it's beliefs, values, world-view, and citizenry, at the centre of the Western world.

We have been so mislead and deceived--just look around and see where the bombs are falling, who is dying, who is in prison, who is loosing land, who is expanding, who is impoverished, who is rich, who is oppressed, and who claims to be free, and who is benefiting from the status quo.

The pattern of this truth is so easily seen for those willing to scratch the centuries of sleep out of their eyes...


Quick, I have to alert my Jewish masters.....


Who is this guy? Gee, have you noticed any Jews trying to get you to believe in our religion? We are not allowed to do that. Any non-Jews(well, not Muslims) would recognize that our values are the same as yours- I think the people who want to get you to believe their way- by violence- are not the Jews.

110 'Nam Grunt  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:49:03am

I have to say Charles are we the only ones that see Lee and shorts**t are in cahoots with each other? This is the most reprehensible BS I've seen in a long time, I won't say what I would do if given the chance out of respect for your rules, but it wouldn't be G Rated!

111 MellyMel  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:49:03am

Wow, he's defending killing homosexuals. Badly, but he is trying.

112 rab3  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:49:10am

re: #64 Killgore Trout

re: #55 JonathanD

Very interesting.

Bollinger's Diatribe

As an American, I was stunned and embarrassed by Bollinger's harangue of Ahmedinejad. It was a craven and cowardly capitulation to political pressures, and unworthy of the academic institution that Bollinger represents. I know who and what Ahmedinejad is, but I also know that he was at Columbia at Columbia's invitation. Bollinger's speech was less a challenge to Ahmedinejad than it was an ambush, and it dishonered all of us as Americans.

KOS kids on the job.

113 Egfrow  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:49:16am

re: #99 george ford

His answers never seem to coincide with the question asked.

Oh, don't worry they will coincide with the questions once he gets back to Iran.

114 CLLRusso  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:49:24am

He extends the hand of friendship to every nation? Oh remember that rambling letter where he invited all Americans to become Muslims! That must be his hand of friendship, saving us from ourselves, of course. So he doesn't have to kill us for being Christians, Jews etc.

115 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:49:27am

re: #78 BartlebyTheScrivener

I love when he calls himself an academic. That's a hoot.

I question his scholarship, not to mention his carbon footprint.

116 Just_A_Grunt  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:49:35am

Went from killing homosexuals, the question, to meteing out the death penalty for drug dealers.

117 KingPhin  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:49:37am

LOL, they dont have gays! Lets move to Iran!

118 ElKafir  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:49:40am

Q: Why are homosexuals executed in your country?

A: Bla, bla bla, bla.

Moonbats (many of them homosexuals) applaud again.

Death wish.

119 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:49:41am

re: #95 loppyd

Hi Ward!

Hi Lopps! I saw jars of Fluff in the grocery store last week. At Brookshire's, right here in Wylie. I almost bought a jar.

120 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:49:41am

T he question was not about criminals and druggies. It was about homosexuals and women.

We don't have homosexuals.

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS.

121 Charles  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:49:46am

"In Iran we don't have homosexuals like in your country."

Gets a big laugh from the students.

122 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:49:49am

re: #102 JeffWinNJ

He's really avoiding the gay question. Wait a minute, he's avoided every question.

Well, let me ask YOU a question: Didn't your country oppress the Cherokees?

/Mahmoud technique

OH, man, "there are no homosexuals in Iran"! He gets booed.

123 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:49:53am

re: #105 Occasional Reader

Yes, and for hungry teenage boys caught eating during the day during ramadan.

I won't let that one go.

124 Dianna  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:49:54am

Oh, nice job of calling him back to the question!

And listen to the dinnerjacket lying!

125 new2thezoo  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:49:58am

No Mo's in Iran... better watch YouTube.

126 judymac  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:50:05am

The translater might be sounding more animated to try to reflect Ahmad's excitement - then again, she might be getting a little hot under her burka about seeing her man in the U.S.

HOWEVER - this is obviously the "Ahmie Show," paid for by you and me (his security detail) and the good students of Columbia University. Every question is answered with "Let me ask you a question . . ." - and then a lecture on how great things are in Iran, how much they love everyone, etc.

OH MY GAWD - I can't believe it. Who knew that Iran is the only country on earth without homosexuals?

127 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:50:06am

Injections of microbes into these people?

We don't have homosexuals in Iran?

128 loppyd  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:50:07am

we don't have homosexuals in our country.

129 jcm  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:50:10am

Iran doesn't have homosexuals.

130 Render  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:50:16am

No homosexuals in Iran?

HA,
R

131 jonturner  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:50:24am

If a giant sinkhole were to open up and swallow the whole damned campus, America, and indeed the world, would be better for it.

We are reliving the insanity of the 1920s and shall all suffer the consequences. Is the whole Western world completely ignorant of modern history?

132 Just_A_Grunt  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:50:33am

Well taht settles it. No homosexuals in Iran. Can we do more research on that achmed?

133 tappin52  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:50:34am

In Iran, we don.t have homosexuals, I don't know who told you that.......LOL

134 ArcherB  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:50:41am

When I read the phrase immoral war, I would like to respond with What would you call a moral war?

I would like to know what would it take for a war to be deemed legitimate and supported by these pinheads. (Other than a Democrat being in charge, of course.)

135 kafir  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:50:47am

No queers in Iran?

Denial is not just a river in Egypt....

136 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:50:49am

He's floundering. The jeering gays got to him!

137 loppyd  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:50:50am

he calls homosexuality a phenomenon

138 usajihad  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:50:52am

I knew the homo question was going to wake-up some of the nutroots.

139 29Victor  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:50:52am

I find it interesting that AhmJay keeps throwing out "physics" and "mathematics" and using them in metaphores, but he never uses any specifics. He just throws out the words generally. He doesn't say something like "string theory is still being researched and questioned," "general relativity even had problems..." or something like that.

Don't know what this could mean, but it kept bugging me.

140 The Shadow Do  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:50:59am

Anyone else think he might be a little light in his loafers?

141 mean Gene  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:51:00am

Women and gays are so free in Iran!
Why not just say that a whisp of hair is haram and that's it's in the Koran?
Oh, because it isn't.
As for the executions....2 questions....not an answer.
You, too!
Boy, does he use odd examples as he compared to gays and whisps of hair to armed hostage taking and kidnapping.
I guess that's just bad, bad, bad!
Called on the carpet for that.
Iran has no gays......ha ha ha! Crowd roars.
Women, on the other hand are "respected" into a corner.
OK, I said that.
Never answered the question.

142 Alouette  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:51:01am

"There are no homosexuals in Iran"

LAUGHTER

143 Egfrow  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:51:10am

re: #121 Charles

"In Iran we don't have homosexuals like in your country."

Gets a big laugh from the students.

Maybe because they are killed on sight.

144 crown_of_feathers  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:51:10am

"In Iran we don't have homosexuals"

ROTFLMAO - jeers!

145 blbfootballs  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:51:12am

Sounds like one heck of a country...

146 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:51:14am

Still liveblogging -

Talking about women's participation in Iranian life - heh. He's deflecting attention from his lynching and killing of minors and capital punishment of adulterers.

Capital punishment for drug traffickers, violating rights of others, he's talking about using the rule of law to defend his country's order. Comparing criminals to virii.

The crowd takes exception to the assertion that homosexuality doesn't exist in Iran. Well, considering that the punishment is death, if you were gay in Iran wouldn't want to go out of my way to go public with that knowledge.

147 rappmandu  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:51:27am

Does anybody else see a Coors Light spoof coming out of this?

148 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:51:27am

I hope the moonbats just learned something.

149 29Victor  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:51:33am

Women aren't overburdened by, ya know, freedom and such.

150 rab3  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:51:34am

re: #130 Render

No homosexuals in Iran?

HA,
R

He thought they killed them all already.

151 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:51:45am

re: #114 CLLRusso

He extends the hand of friendship to every nation? Oh remember that rambling letter where he invited all Americans to become Muslims! That must be his hand of friendship, saving us from ourselves, of course. So he doesn't have to kill us for being Christians, Jews etc.


I'd like to return the gesture with one of my own. I'd like to extend to him the middle digits of both hands.

152 EC Marm  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:51:59am

Wow! Boos, catcalls, and moans.

153 vagabond trader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:51:59am

No homosexuals, but lots of happy, respected, women and jooos lmao.

154 loppyd  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:52:10am

here we go with the 9/11 ground zero question

155 Greensoccer  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:52:14am

He was asked why he is executing homosexuals, and women. So far he has not answered the question.

He answered "we don't have homosexuals in our country."

He didn't answer the question about killing women.

Now he is asked what he would have said at ground zero. Very annoying.

156 KingPhin  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:52:22am

Our 9/11 families do not want fucking sympathy from a terrorist. I think I speak for them all there.

157 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:52:25am

re: #142 Alouette

One would think many gays would enlist to help destroy this idiot.

158 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:52:28am

"the site of the September 11 tragedy"... no, that's ATROCITY, you evil dwarf.

159 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:52:31am

re: #121 Charles

"In Iran we don't have homosexuals like in your country."

Gets a big laugh from the students.

'Cause he's killed all the ones he can find.

160 HobokenIrish  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:52:40am

I freaking hate when people call it the "September 11th tragedy". It was an attack! Katrina is a tragedy, 9-11 was an act of war!

161 Egfrow  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:52:42am

What a utopia Iran is?

162 reine.de.tout  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:52:44am

re: #111 MellyMel

Wow, he's defending killing homosexuals. Badly, but he is trying.

"We don't have this phenomenon in Iran".
Right; because all homosexuals are dead. And the crowd laughed! Did they not understand what exactly he was telling them?

163 AZNJ  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:52:57am

It wasn't a tradegy. It was an attack.

164 rab3  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:53:11am

re: #149 29Victor

Women aren't overburdened by, ya know, freedom and such.

They learned how far they can stick the fingers in their ears and say Laa, Laa, Laa I can't here you. Deep ear canals

165 Intestinal Fortitude  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:53:13am

re: #129 jcm


Yeah, no Ho-moes.

166 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:53:14am

Whiney-ass babyman! Gonna' stomp your widdle feet?

167 Ballistic Renegade  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:53:16am

"We don't have that in our country"

Boos from audience....

Personally, I think it's stupid to question him about gays and adulterers being executed. It's their law, they are evil, end of discussion.

I'd ask him "Exactly WHAT is stopping you from wiping Isreal off the map?". Then I'd answer my own question, before he could rant again..."It's because if you even so much as think about it, Isreal will take care of you and your piece of sand in the desert. Permanently."

168 Iron Fist  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:53:22am

But, but they support the troops terrorists!

169 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:53:37am

He sounds just like Cindy Sheehan at the moment.

170 jcm  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:53:45am

re: #139 29Victor

I find it interesting that AhmJay keeps throwing out "physics" and "mathematics" and using them in metaphores, but he never uses any specifics. He just throws out the words generally. He doesn't say something like "string theory is still being researched and questioned," "general relativity even had problems..." or something like that.

Don't know what this could mean, but it kept bugging me.

Uses big words without knowing what they mean, pseudo-intellectual.

171 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:53:49am
172 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:53:52am

re: #147 rappmandu

Does anybody else see a Coors Light spoof coming out of this?

Yeah, I could see that. Incredibly tasteless one, though. Kinda like Coors Light.

173 Egfrow  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:53:57am

Love and peace! You were right Charles.

174 bulwrk  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:54:08am

We don't have homosexuals in Iran because we hang them.

175 Maui Girl  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:54:10am

Like the reporter said on FOXnews before this event began, Ahmedinajead (sp) will answer questions with questions that are basically unrelated to the originally asked question. The man is an expert at avoiding the question.

The fact that ANYONE is applauding this man is absolutely appalling to me as I am sure it is to others.

I agree that Bollinger was covering his ass. While WHAT he was saying was truthful, it was just to make him look good. Coward. Hopefully however, all being said, this broadcast will open people's eyes to the idiocy that is the Iranian president. Most people will not be able to get their minds around the circles that the Iranian presidents draws and may end up concluding that the guy makes sense. THAT'S truly the scary part.

176 KingPhin  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:54:14am

Oh wow, apparently the worst part of 9/11 is when we went after the Terrorists....

177 LC LaWedgie  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:54:16am

Troooooferrrr!

178 EC Marm  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:54:28am

If parts of this get back to the mullahs, and they hear the audience, he may end up 'hanging out' on the street corner himself.

179 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:54:45am

TROOFERISM! "Who was truly involved in 9/11?"

180 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:54:54am
....we don't have homosexuals in our country.

We did, but....

181 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:54:57am

No applause for the 9/11 speech.

182 Egfrow  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:54:58am

LOL! No homosexuals in Iran!

183 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:55:06am

re: #137 loppyd

he calls homosexuality a phenomenon

Straight out of the nearest "artsy" neighborhood near you, the newest phenomenon to hit the streets of the Iran, ladies and gentlemen, I give you......

Homosexuality!

184 KingPhin  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:55:55am
185 Peacekeeper  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:56:03am

He should have introduced him with; "Say hallo to my leetle friend."

186 'Nam Grunt  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:56:11am

Time to move our Fleet closer to Iran to get a "good look at what's going on"!

187 wee fury  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:56:34am

What he didn't say is -- there are no homosexuals in Iran because we kill them.

188 Argath93  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:56:57am

Politically retarded?

189 Charles  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:56:58am

More applause for Ahmadinejad, as he says we have no right to question their pursuit of nuclear weapons.

190 xenophobic  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:57:00am

3,000 centrifuges to enrich to 5% right? I seem to believe the IAEA said they believed he had dual programs.

191 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:57:02am

Will the students carry him out of the room on their shoulders?

192 Maui Girl  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:57:04am

I really getting to hate the voice of the translator, like she believes every word this little sh*t is spewing.

Applause, applause.

193 gijoe  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:57:06am

The more he talks the better.
He is making an ass of himself.

194 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:57:11am

Wow, I actually agree (in a way) with exactly one thing he's said: "We all know that the nuclear issue with Iran is a political issue, not a legal one." Absolutely. I could give two shits whether the mullahs have a "legal right" to nuclear weapons or not.

195 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:57:24am

re: #186 'Nam Grunt

Yes.

196 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:57:28am

re: #182 Egfrow

LOL! No homosexuals in Iran!

The velcro kiss!

197 AZNJ  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:57:31am

you mean you aren't joking now?

198 tappin52  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:57:51am

They don't believe in nuclear weapons, and politicians who do are retarded. What a juvenile!

199 LC LaWedgie  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:58:04am

re: #188 Argath93

He's a real Islamic joke generator.

200 29Victor  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:58:12am

Nothing like a retarded joke to begin wraping things up.

201 TeamDub  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:58:33am

"Zionist regime"

202 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:58:36am

I would throw a koran at him

203 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:58:48am

re: #170 jcm

re: #139 29Victor


I find it interesting that AhmJay keeps throwing out "physics" and "mathematics" and using them in metaphors, but he never uses any specifics. He just throws out the words generally. He doesn't say something like "string theory is still being researched and questioned," "general relativity even had problems..." or something like that.

Don't know what this could mean, but it kept bugging me.


Uses big words without knowing what they mean, pseudo-intellectual.

Perhaps he's trying to compensate for other inadequacies in addition to the inadequacy between his ears.

204 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:58:49am

re: #189 Charles

More applause for Ahmadinejad, as he says we have no right to question their pursuit of nuclear weapons.

He knew exactly how to handle that one: "YOU and your 'retarded' politicans have all those nukes, who are you to question us?" That was guaranteed applause from the useful idiots.

Oh, and now, Apartheid South Africa = "Zionist" regime in Israel... great.

205 MellyMel  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:58:49am

re: #162 reine.de.tout

re: #111 MellyMel

Wow, he's defending killing homosexuals. Badly, but he is trying.

"We don't have this phenomenon in Iran".
Right; because all homosexuals are dead. And the crowd laughed! Did they not understand what exactly he was telling them?

I heard that too -- sadly, I do think they understood it.

206 mean Gene  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:59:25am

Humane values?
Where?
In the koran?
The man is certifiable!

207 Saif al Kufr  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:59:42am

Iran is a civilized nation?

[Link: www.apostatesofislam.com...]

208 'Nam Grunt  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 11:59:49am

I want Bollinger brought up on treason charges for allowing this fiasco, it's like inviting Gen. Giap during 'Nam to address a University, no difference!

209 InfidelQueen  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:00:02pm
...and it dishonered all of us as Americans.

Do you know what dishonors me? Bad spelling and grammar.

210 Maui Girl  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:00:13pm

Hopefully, the next week will be spent in putting the words Ahmed speaks today side by side with the words he speaks in Tehran on a weekly basis.

I love the way he has completely demonized the US in front of this audience and they applaud him.

Columbia alumni (with balls), withdraw your support, immediately!

211 LC LaWedgie  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:00:25pm

Shut him up, please!

212 Argath93  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:00:28pm

I hope they were laughing at him.

213 VinceP1974  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:00:30pm

I haven't watched this , so I'm only making a general statement....

I think everyone here understands the difficulity involved with debating a Muslim (Robert Spencer comes to mind and is there anyone out there who is more informed about Islam than Spencer?).. They are masters in deflection, lies, deception , etc..

It's a joke that the dhimmis at the university think they're in a position to challenge this guy... they have no absolutely no idea how masterfully they're going to be used as the useless idiots (sic) that they are.

214 29Victor  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:00:35pm

Translation:

"Hey, we held hosted 52 of your citizens for 444 days back in the '70s. What? Hostages? Noooooo. We were trying to organize a discussion pannel."

215 29Victor  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:01:22pm

Whiney freakin' victim.

216 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:01:34pm

We have them under "propaganda embargos"?

217 loppyd  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:01:42pm

re: #183 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #137 loppyd

he calls homosexuality a phenomenon

Straight
out of the nearest "artsy" neighborhood near you, the newest phenomenon
to hit the streets of the Iran, ladies and gentlemen, I give you......

Homosexuality!


It's the latest fad, don't you know....

218 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:01:54pm

*Surprised he called himself retarded*

219 rab3  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:02:03pm

“In Iran, we don’t have homosexuals like you do in this country.”

I can see the t-shirts now.

220 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:02:03pm

re: #213 VinceP1974

They are best debated by mooning, IMHO.

221 Charles  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:02:06pm

He's wrapping up now. Wait for the applause.

222 loppyd  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:02:15pm

I can't listen too much longer...

223 Eowyn2  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:02:24pm

Sounds like a lesson in Chamberlain Diplomacy.

224 Charles  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:02:33pm

There it is.

225 Maui Girl  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:02:52pm

I'm sure he'd love to thank the audience seeing as how they're reading to kiss his Iranian ass and throw roses in his path.

Send all those who applaud him to Iran and let them really see what's going on.

No guarantee we won't jail you, though.

226 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:02:52pm

They're officially invited! Booyah for them!

227 Ballistic Renegade  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:02:53pm

Sure he'd allow faculty & staff from Columbia to come to Iran...

You check out any time you like, but you can...never leave!

228 Argath93  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:02:54pm

28 years ago our President and prime minister were killed in a terrorist act...

28 years ago our revolution succeeded....


Oh, crap- about that.

229 Winsmom  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:02:59pm

I believe we are seeing Satan incarnate. This hairy little monster is beyond belief - I'm glad people laughed at him and booed at his statement that there were no homosexuals in Iran. I am amazed at the amount of applause he's received.

As far as the dialogue devoutly wished for by the clueless, they got what they deserved - a whole lot of bullshit.

230 loppyd  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:03:01pm

Inviting them to come to Iran....just not the Jews.

Oh, BIG applause.

231 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:03:05pm

Ooooh, he wants to be our "best friend"! Isn't that special.

232 Greensoccer  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:03:22pm

This format is not working for me. His answers should be shorter. He should be interrupted when he goes off on a tangent that is misrepresenting history. He says "we picked a fight with Iran?" What about Iran invading our territory i.e. our embassy and seizing our embassy personelle?

233 rab3  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:03:36pm

Of Ahmadinejad and Holocaust Denial

More KOS

Just a quick note about Holocaust denial in reference to the NYC appearance of one of the world's most famous Holocaust deniers, Mahmoud Gonadigonad. (Did I spell that right?)

I've seen some comments, here and elsewhere, that it's wrong to call Ahmadinejad a Holocaust denier; after all, he hasn't ever said "The Holocaust didn't happen," just that it may not have happened, or may have happened far differently than the way we think it did.

234 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:03:44pm

Not one student has stood up and thrown a shoe at him yet?

235 wee fury  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:03:44pm

Well, isn't this special. You are invited to Iran. . . . 'course you might be arrested . . . .

236 Paco from Sefarad  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:03:52pm

University faculty invited to Iran!

Can they bring their own interpreters?

237 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:03:52pm

Oh please moonbats... go ahead and take him up on the free trip to Iran offer.

Just don't expect our armed forces to lay their necks on the line to rescue your dumb asses.

238 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:03:59pm

re: #121 Charles

"In Iran we don't have homosexuals like in your country."

Gets a big laugh from the students.

There wasn't a touch of jealousy/compliment in that was there?

239 jonturner  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:04:04pm

re: #96 mama winger

People.
I give you the face of Hitler 2.0.
Never thought it could happen again. But here we are.

You are correct, and the future is truly dark. How many hundreds of millions who are alive today will die in the wars that will surely come, because of the decisions being made today by our cowardly so-called leaders? Where is the outrage from Congress?

This evil man defiles the ground he walks on and I am disgusted as I am flabbergasted that our government allows this! George Bush is a complete sellout. Having the UN here is bad enough, but to allow him to take one step on American soil is intolerable. It is time to strike E.O. 12333.

240 seadoo  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:04:06pm

I thought it was a great speech.!

241 CLLRusso  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:04:09pm

Why do you suppose the students give more reaction to the gay comments than any other? Last I heard gay's are a slim minority everywhere. Aren't there many more women that are discriminated against than gays? Just proving his lies?

242 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:04:11pm

"many politicians in the US are trained here in Columbia"... sadly, that's true.

Now he's going to sing "I'm So Glad We Had This Time Together".

243 29Victor  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:04:12pm

"Hundreds of meetings like this"

Where we whine and blame Jews for everything.

244 Bordm  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:04:18pm

You can come visit Iran anytime you want.


You just can't leave Iran once you come.

245 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:04:22pm

Isn't he gracious with all the thank yous?

/puke

246 rappmandu  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:04:26pm

Bonus round question for Mahmoud:

Why did the Qods force in Iraq recently flee back across the border into Iran rather than become shahid to the last man?

247 Charles  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:04:26pm

Here comes the peace and brotherhood stuff again.

More applause. Extended applause this time, with cheers.

248 gmsc  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:04:26pm
249 Maui Girl  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:04:37pm

He'll go back to Iran and claim, "See they were applauding me because they know we, in Iran, are right!"

250 Peacekeeper  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:04:45pm

Sympathy for the Devil

251 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:04:46pm

re: #232 Greensoccer

Carter at fault there for not responding to that act of war with a war.

We would not be listening to this moron now.

252 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:04:52pm

Thunderous applause for his exit.

253 christheprofessor  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:04:53pm

Heh. He calls American politicians "retarded" then says he understands many politicians are trained at Columbia -- a shot at Bollinger, perhaps?

254 Ballistic Renegade  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:05:04pm

Dick Cheney SALUTE!

255 loppyd  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:05:04pm

How big is the prtotest outside?

I don't have access to a TV.

256 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:05:08pm

re: #217 loppyd

re: #183 The Pulchritudinous Patriot


re: #137 loppyd

he calls homosexuality a phenomenon

Straight
out of the nearest "artsy" neighborhood near you, the newest phenomenon
to hit the streets of the Iran, ladies and gentlemen, I give you......

Homosexuality!


It's the latest fad, don't you know....

Everybody'serm lots of guys are ....forget it.

My quote is from Steel Magnolias: All gay men have track lighing and are named Mark, Rick or Steve.

Say, is Mamood (or however you spell his name) the Arabic equivilent to Mark? You know like Roberto is Robert etc?

257 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:05:14pm

Evil is the victim of Good.

258 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:05:14pm
259 Tumulus11  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:05:17pm

. Moonbat huzzahs for the departing H_tler.

260 EC Marm  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:05:24pm

Bolton on FNC now

261 tappin52  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:05:37pm

If Geotge Bush asked the Almighty God for blessings for all he would have been booed and admonished for not separating Church and State.

262 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:05:40pm

Bollinger salutes Mahmoud's "commitment to free debate"!

Disgusting.

263 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:05:41pm

His real audience is not the US... it's the Middle East.

264 htom  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:05:44pm

What a pile of babble.

265 filetandrelease  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:05:47pm

Bolten on FOX

266 MrScribbler  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:05:47pm

Did he want to express his sorrow at the 9/11 site to 19 dead, or 2974?

The little sheep are applauding him like mad.

If they are the future, we're doomed.

267 Charles  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:05:49pm

Coatsworth went over and shook his hand.

268 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:05:58pm

Celebrating Free Speech with thugs who deny Free Speech.

Priceless.

/Ugh!

269 FightingBack  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:06:16pm

He invited them to Iran.
Let them go.

270 SonOfLiberty  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:06:24pm

How's that line from "The Usual Suspects" go?

"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist."

271 Dianna  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:06:37pm

You did catch Bollinger saying what amounted to, "He didn't answer what we asked him"?

272 LC LaWedgie  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:06:45pm

re: #229 Winsmom

He's just the little horn - Ya ain't seen nothing yet.

273 stoker  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:06:50pm

re: #234 Ringo the Gringo

Not one student has stood up and thrown a shoe at him yet?

Or anything else? Ann Coulter must have run 'em out of pies.

274 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:07:02pm

re: #267 Charles

Uncle Jim tells Coatsworth to go to hell.

275 Carolyn  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:07:25pm

How many of the moonbat students will he welcome to live in Iran?
Please LLLeftists go to your hero's homeland for a learning experience.

276 Egfrow  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:07:32pm

"There are no absolutes"

This is the lie that drives liberalism.

277 SonOfLiberty  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:07:32pm

re: #262 Occasional Reader

Bollinger salutes Mahmoud's "commitment to free debate"!

Disgusting.

This cements what Charles has been saying.

278 cptham  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:08:01pm

"In Iran, we don’t have homosexuals like you do in this country.”

No shit, you've executed tham.

279 filetandrelease  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:08:09pm

Bolten

"Allowing Ahmadinejad to speak at Columbia will hurt us in the long run"

280 Charles  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:08:16pm

re: #234 Ringo the Gringo

Not one student has stood up and thrown a shoe at him yet?

The students were warned that if they stood up, they'd be taken out by the Secret Service.

281 Maui Girl  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:08:38pm

FOX is interviewing Amb. Bolton right now. He just said that this event will in the long run, hurt the US.

John Bolton for President 2008!

282 rappmandu  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:08:44pm

Mahmoud to Columbia:

"Pleased to meetchoo. Hope ya guessed my name!"

283 jzm  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:08:45pm

So how can a enemy of ours like Ahmadinejad have Free Speech rights here in America when he is not an American citizen.
He should have no right's here.
Just sayin'

284 SummerSong  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:08:47pm

We should endlessly question the events of the holocaust, but let's stop all this distrust of Iran's nuclear ambitions....

/

285 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:09:23pm

re: #280 Charles

The students were warned that if they stood up, they'd be taken out by the Secret Service.

Holy [deleted]. It's Bizzaro World......

286 wee fury  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:09:35pm

Bolton has my vote.

287 Carolyn  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:09:39pm

Any country that has "religious police" is not a free country.

288 jonturner  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:09:42pm

re: #280 Charles

Here come the moonbat callers.re: #234 Ringo the Gringo

Not one student has stood up and thrown a shoe at him yet?
The students were warned that if they stood up, they'd be taken out by the Secret Service.

"taken out"... does that mean "asked to leave" or "shot?"

289 yochanan  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:10:10pm

any reports on the demos?

290 Egfrow  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:10:10pm

re: #281 Maui Girl

FOX is interviewing Amb. Bolton right now. He just said that this event will in the long run, hurt the US.

John Bolton for President 2008!

I agree. This is a gigantic windfall for Iran and the Left.

291 xenophobic  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:10:16pm

re: #283 jzm

So how can a enemy of ours like Ahmadinejad have Free Speech rights here in America when he is not an American citizen.
He should have no right's here.
Just sayin'

Surprising? No, not when they call for the same rights for terrorists in detention at Gitmo.

292 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:10:25pm

re: #280 Charles

Here come the moonbat callers.re: #234 Ringo the Gringo

Not one student has stood up and thrown a shoe at him yet?
The students were warned that if they stood up, they'd be taken out by the Secret Service.

You can chuck a shoe from the seated position as well...

293 bianchi_roadie  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:10:49pm

Line of the day: “In Iran, we don’t have homosexuals like you do in this country.”

I've heard this meme from others. In grad school, several Indian students believed this. Homosexuality was a western "disease" and not found in other cultures.

Of course I expect a few leftist writers to play defense for Ahmadinejad on this. They'll say something like "the concept of sexuality is different in other cultures, only we seek to categorize people according to who they have sex with" or something similar. That only goes so far. Should someone ask the Pres of Iran if homosexual relations is a sin? That might be a more direct question to ask.

294 EC Marm  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:10:55pm

Bolton:
'giving him a chance to speak will be viewed around the world as conferring a sense of legitimacy'

295 'Nam Grunt  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:11:19pm

Shorts**t days are numbered, he'll swing like Saddam ("Just a Swangin'"), Hitler was a little guy too, maybe he''ll take lessons from his demise!

296 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:11:30pm

I was glad to hear some students booing during his homosexual prisoners comments. With any luck they will question everything the man told them.

297 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:11:45pm

C-span caller makes a good point:
It was another display of weakness, He was asked tough question in the beginning but was never expected to answer them. He wasn't pressed and was given a platform to say whatever he wanted, essentially unchallenged.

298 The world of fuzziness  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:11:50pm

...And now he shall go back to Tehran with a suitcase full of great propaganda clips readily supplied by MSM...

299 Egfrow  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:11:56pm

Nah, the moonbats were pre-selected and sat up front. The protesters and conservatives were placed in the back.

300 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:11:57pm

re: #288 jonturner

re: #280 Charles


Here come the moonbat callers.re: #234 Ringo the Gringo
Not one student has stood up and thrown a shoe at him yet?
The students were warned that if they stood up, they'd be taken out by the Secret Service.

"taken out"... does that mean "asked to leave" or "shot?"

Interesting enough to ponder. OTOH, if someone were to assasinate the Dinner Jacket on American soil all hell would break loose. Like it or not the Secret Service is responsible for his safety. I hate that fact, but there it is.

301 Winsmom  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:12:49pm

Disgusting. Absolutely Disgusting. May his faith in physics and mathematics be shaken to the roots in the very near future.

302 mama winger  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:12:54pm

If, as has been shown by his answer to what they do to homosexuals in Iran, he has been demonstrated to be a pathological liar, why are any further questions necessary?

303 LC LaWedgie  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:12:57pm

The translator can go towel off, now.

304 neverquit  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:13:03pm

Well folks, I have not seen it yet. I'm sure it will be on YouTube sooner or later.

Based on what I've read here, he had a friendly audience..Nice, how quaint....

Also, it appears that of all the issues before him that the audience should have been adverse to his answers on, the only thing they did not believe was that there are not any homosexuals in Iran........

This will be the outrage from the Left, not his support of terrorism, Holocaust denial, his desire for the destruction of Israel, his alleged Nuke Weapons program - or at minimum obsfucation - none of that is an issue for this audience.......Just the gay thing...it appears they even gave him a pass on womens issues/rights as well.

305 canadiancrackpot  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:13:29pm

This is such a weird scene. Seeing the man who is killing American troops and arming your enemies- standing lecturing to you like a college prof.

It's like it's out of the Twilight Zone...

306 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:13:39pm

re: #297 Killgore Trout

I had to turn it off- are the callers any good? I'll put it back on, maybe.

307 LC LaWedgie  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:14:35pm

That dunce said he defends his right to free speech - ahh... he's not an American citizen.

308 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:14:55pm

When they were on the homosexual topic did anybody else hear him talk about injecting microbes into people or was that reserved for the drug dealers.

309 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:15:13pm

re: #306 Sharmuta

No, it's mostly the usual lame crap.

310 realwest  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:15:13pm

re: Bollinger's speech - Charles, I have no doubt that it was a show to redeem his reputation (and to keep the almuni money flowing in) but it was still ONE HELL OF A SHOW!
And now Dinnerjacket just said they have no homosexuals in Iran to an enormous chorus of boos from the audience.
I gotta say, so far, Dinnerjacket is looking exactly like what we know he is - a freaking lunatic, with no genuine native intelligence, who cannot stand up and answer hard questions put to him by Bollinger or by the students.
He's a poseur. A dangerous one, but still a poseur.
And the level of applause he's been getting has been dropping the more he speaks.

311 liam76  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:15:30pm

Does anyone know when his trip to WTC is going to be? I want to be near a TV to see the protests if he does go?

312 DesertSage  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:15:33pm

No homosexuals in Iran?

Doesn't that require a willing suspension of disbelief?

313 americanpundit  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:15:49pm

Who is this student on Fox now? Does she really believe he'll take our thoughts and feelings to implement elsewhere? She thinks the people in Iran will get to hear Bollinger, too, seeing their President questioned. Oy.

314 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:16:06pm

re: #302 mama winger

Even the moonbats laughed at him for that one.

315 gmsc  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:16:23pm

Slightly OT thought:

Columbia has said that they'd invite Hitler to speak. As we've all heard from the Kossacks, Bush=Hitler. So, when is Bush speaking at Columbia?

316 tfc3rid  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:16:26pm

Today I am ashamed this 'University' is in my city...

This was a disgrace and those who are alumni from Columbia should be ashamed of those who attend...

All those who applaud him are like the Hitler Youth... So dumb, so idiotic, they just don't believe this man wants us dead...

'Father, forgive them, they know not what they do...'

317 EC Marm  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:16:39pm

re: #297 Killgore Trout
Was it just me, or did you think that the third (or fourth maybe) caller on CSPAN2 after the earlier press conference sounded exactly like Doug Hooper? Called himself an 'independent' who spent time in middle east.

318 Eowyn2  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:16:47pm

re: #205 MellyMel

re: #162 reine.de.tout

re: #111 MellyMel

Wow, he's defending killing homosexuals. Badly, but he is trying.

"We don't have this phenomenon in Iran".
Right; because all homosexuals are dead. And the crowd laughed! Did they not understand what exactly he was telling them?

I heard that too -- sadly, I do think they understood it.

No, I dont think they understood it. They think he was making a joke about conservatives 'lying' about the homosexuals who come out of the closet in Iran.

Remember these are the same types of people who think the Jooos gave us WWII and the cold war. It is the Jooos who pit nation against nation, not the murder of thousands(?) of homosexuals, the slicing and dicing of female genitalia, stoning for THOUGHTS of adultery.

319 mama winger  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:16:55pm

I would like to see the American soldiers wounded by Iranian weapons be given the stage at Columbia next month for a similar forum.

If we are interested in hearing all voices, I would like to hear theirs.

320 mglazer  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:17:05pm

Weak Leaders produce weak People

We are a weaker Country

Thanks to our weak Leaders!

321 jonturner  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:17:20pm

I feel physically sick at the level of support my own countrymen give to this monster.

322 Iron Fist  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:17:24pm

re: #300 The Pulchritudinous Patriot,

What would Iran really do? Support international terrorism?

323 mglazer  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:18:19pm

There are a lot of traitors in America with US native citizenry

We as a country are very weak and our leaders are only making us all weaker

324 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:18:31pm
325 Carolyn  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:18:38pm

John 8:44

44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

326 jcm  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:19:00pm

re: #190 xenophobic

3,000 centrifuges to enrich to 5% right? I seem to believe the IAEA said they believed he had dual programs.

I recall doing the U235 U238 centrifuge purification equations in a physical chem class. You got to bomb grade at around 1000 in series, 3000 means three production lines.

327 Dirk Diggler  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:19:17pm

Personally I was disappointed Ahmadinejad didn't sign off with his catch phrase "Dah plane! Dah plane!".

I always thought he was great in Fantasy Island.

328 GreenSoccer  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:19:44pm

re: #255 loppyd

You're right. I want to see the TV shows showing the demonstrations.

329 Europhobe  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:20:04pm

So let the Secret Service carry you out. Not one student with the balls to stand up and call this guy a scumbag?

330 FQ Kafir  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:20:29pm

Cursor went crazy, somehow I sent a report. False alarm, Stinky.

331 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:20:43pm

re: #309 Killgore Trout

Then you've saved me! You are my hero today!

332 jonturner  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:21:10pm

re: #329 Europhobe

So let the Secret Service carry you out. Not one student with the balls to stand up and call this guy a scumbag?

Exactly. We have living proof that "Those will stand for nothing, will fall for anything."

333 Sizzlack  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:21:12pm

He certainly gets my vote for Best Muslim in a Leading Role for this years Muslim equivalent to the Oscars, Allahwood.
Great performance...he'll be appearing next on Broadway in "The Muslim Cometh"

334 j-damn  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:21:33pm
The students were warned that if they stood up, they'd be taken out by the Secret Service.

So a terrorist tinhorn gets to speak his obviously demented minds but the American citizens paying a princely sum to attend Columbia don't?

Niiiiiiiiice.

335 yochanan  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:22:01pm

[Link: edwardcropper.blogspot.com...]

PHOTO SHOP BUT FUNNY

336 Dianna  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:22:02pm

re: #308 Pvt Bin Jammin

Drug dealers.

They execute those who aren't under Iranian government supervision, evidently.

337 Ballistic Renegade  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:22:23pm

#267 Charles

Coatsworth went over and shook his hand.

The friend of our enemy is also our enemy, in this war on terrorism.

338 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:22:28pm

re: #285 Sharmuta

re: #280 Charles


The students were warned that if they stood up, they'd be taken out by the Secret Service.

Holy [deleted]. It's Bizzaro World......

Actually, that's what we would want - it's to ensure reciprocal protection for our diplomats abroad - even as the Iranians themselves violated that in a big way in 1979.

339 Carolyn  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:22:50pm

Just one more relevant scripture,

9The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, 10and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing. They perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved. 11For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie 12and so that all will be condemned who have not believed the truth but have delighted in wickedness.
340 sheik yer'mami  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:22:55pm

No magic Allah-ray's yet?

[Link: sheikyermami.com...]

341 rappmandu  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:23:08pm

I think a fitting response to Mahmoud is nailing Mughniyeh.

342 ibmkeyboard  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:23:22pm

Amadinerjihad.

Why do I feel like I have been to a three stooges movie?

Moe playing his part giving a speech to the sheep.

Nyuk Nyukl Nyuk.

343 cosmo  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:23:25pm

No gays in Iran due to the zero tolerance-execution policy against them there.

Ahmadinnerjihad is telling the truth. For once.

344 yochanan  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:23:32pm

DEFEAT IRAN!

345 mama winger  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:23:44pm

re: #321 jonturner

I feel physically sick at the level of support my own countrymen give to this monster.

Me too.

I think I can speak on behalf of mothers whose sons and daughters are defending this nation, and in harm's way, when I say.....

go to hell you madman

346 'Nam Grunt  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:24:02pm

I wonder if when the students and faculty of Columbia will be welcomed by Woodstock Iran with "Cat Stevens" as the headliner singing "Peace Train" before they are all beheaded........Hmmmmmmm!

347 ronaldusmagnus  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:24:08pm

Bollinger has been a leftist tool every since his days as President of the University of Michigan (the Kremlin of the Midwest).

Coatsworth (one of the deans at Columbia) should now be given the nic "Turncoatsworth" or "Coatsworthless".

I watch this despicable creature, this epitome of evil, and think of Churchill warning the world in the 1930's about Hitler. Winston was a voice crying in the wilderness, while asshats like Chamberlain sucked up to Hitler. Today it repeated itself at Columbia with Coatsworth and Bollinger playing the role of Chamberlain.

Columbia was doomed when Bollinger became president. Today, its fate was sealed.

348 j-damn  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:24:25pm
All those who applaud him are like the Hitler Youth... So dumb, so idiotic, they just don't believe this man wants us dead...

Membership in the Hitler Youth was mandatory.

Attending this speech--and enjoying it--was not.

349 sheik yer'mami[deleted]  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:24:26pm
350 mama winger  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:24:40pm

re: #342 ibmkeyboard

Amadinerjihad.

Why do I feel like I have been to a three stooges movie?

Moe playing his part giving a speech to the sheep.

Nyuk Nyukl Nyuk.

Why do I feel as if I have been kicked in the gut.

351 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:24:50pm

re: #233 rab3

Of Ahmadinejad and Holocaust Denial

More KOS


Just a quick note about Holocaust denial in reference to the NYC appearance of one of the world's most famous Holocaust deniers, Mahmoud Gonadigonad. (Did I spell that right?)

I've seen some comments, here and elsewhere, that it's wrong to call Ahmadinejad a Holocaust denier; after all, he hasn't ever said "The Holocaust didn't happen," just that it may not have happened, or may have happened far differently than the way we think it did.

Holocaust denier deniers.

352 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:24:59pm

re: #338 lawhawk

I thought their job was to protect and uphold the Constitution, not defend It's enemies.

I know what you're saying though. Still makes me want to puke.

353 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:25:13pm

re: #336 Dianna
LOL

354 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:25:30pm

re: #322 Iron Fist

re: #300 The Pulchritudinous Patriot,

What would Iran really do? Support international terrorism?

Iron Fist, you know me. I'm not taking up for the Dinner Jacket here. I'm merely saying that we don't need to assasinate him on American soil.

355 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:25:43pm

re: #303 LC LaWedgie

The translator can go towel off, now.

And smoke a cigarette.

356 FightingBack  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:25:59pm

re: #334 j-damn

What about the "right to free speech" that they were bleating about as an excuse for this travesty? Only he has that right?
/

357 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:26:19pm

re: #280 Charles

re: #234 Ringo the Gringo


Not one student has stood up and thrown a shoe at him yet?

The students were warned that if they stood up, they'd be taken out by the Secret Service.

Had I been there, I probably wouldn't have thrown my shoe at him....I would have simply tossed it onto the stage.

I doubt they could charge you with much for throwing a shoe on stage.

Of course the tasering afterwards might hurt a bit.

358 yochanan  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:26:39pm
359 J.S.  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:26:45pm

What an obscenity. I agree with Charles summation with respect to Bollinger -- the useful idiot who attempted to put a "happy face" on Holocaust denial, hanging homosexuals, stoning women, and genocidal aspirations. Well done, Bollinger -- you disgusting piece of -- Bollinger is just as rotten, just as corrupted, just as fithy as any dinner jacket.

I stopped watching after a "question" about what the terrorist would have said at Ground Zero. Missed that -- I don't want to know what a Hezbollah and Hamas supporter and cheer-leader for mass murderers has to say -- and certainly not at a so-called "university."

It is a dark, dark day for American "universities" -- maybe it's time for a Columbia divestment campaign...or rescinding "degrees" from these utterly bankrupt institutions.

360 allah this  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:27:11pm

re: #36 rab3

Pie in the face please.

You misspelled bullet.

361 threeCents  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:27:18pm

Where is the coverage of the protest? Did they not happen?

362 LC LaWedgie  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:27:23pm

re: #355 Ward Cleaver

They caught that murderer from Collin Co. that escaped from Huntsville and murdered a guard.

363 loppyd  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:27:55pm

re: #328 GreenSoccer

re: #255 loppyd

You're right. I want to see the TV shows showing the demonstrations.


I'll have to hope to see it on the news later on Brit Hume.

364 EtNorskTroll  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:27:59pm

Why are you Lizards paying so much attention to what this guy is saying?

You don't speak to corpses, do you?

You don't go to Cemeteries and listen to the dead people there, do you?

Why is it any different with this walking corpse?

?

~Norsk Troll

365 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:28:42pm
366 Killgore Trout  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:30:35pm

At the top of Drudge....

GAYS IN IRAN 1

367 Iron Fist  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:30:36pm

re: #338 lawhawk,

Like the way Iran protected our diplomats in '79? We should just hold Dinnerjacket hostage for 444 days or until Iran stops nuclear production.

368 hooligan  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:30:38pm

Was it Mama Winger that called him Hitler 2.0?

You are chillingly correct. I am sick over this. Only fifty years go by and the Great Liar picks up a mighty head of steam once again.

369 jonturner  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:30:51pm

Ahmadinejad's must leave immediately to keep his fellatio appointment with our leaders. He's on a tight schedule.

re: #338 lawhawk

re: #285 Sharmuta

re: #280 Charles

The students were warned that if they stood up, they'd be taken out by the Secret Service.

Holy [deleted]. It's Bizzaro World......
Actually, that's what we would want - it's to ensure reciprocal protection for our diplomats abroad - even as the Iranians themselves violated that in a big way in 1979.


Then it is time to recall the damned worthless "diplomats" who do nothing more than feed the crocodile! Muslim leaders are proven liars, ordered to do so by their hate-filled instruction manual known as the Koran. To believe their word is of any value whatsoever, it to be suicidally naive.

370 sheik yer'mami  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:30:58pm

re: #62 Occasional Reader

Justifying Holocaust denial as "scientific research".

SPIT SPIT SPIT

Just as good as 'Islamic science' from the Koran.

371 cosmo  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:31:38pm

re: #361 threeCents

...um...yeah...this is Columbia University. You know, where "diversity" means "agree with the establishment" or shut up.

372 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:31:39pm

re: #362 LC LaWedgie

re: #355 Ward Cleaver

They caught that murderer from Collin Co. that escaped from Huntsville and murdered a guard.

Wow, I didn't even hear about that.

/going over to dallasnews.com

373 droplet  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:31:40pm

I sensed only a smattering of applause for him at some points, and at its loudest, maybe one-third of the audience clapping heartily. Probably foreign exchange students.

I thought the female interpreter did a great job. Sometimes these kinds of things can be confusing disasters.

374 VinceP1974  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:31:51pm

All of this is warmup for his real speech to be given at the UN.

Last year he closed the speech with a prayer to Allah to hasten the coming of the Imam Mahdi.

I wonder what he's got in store this year.

375 Carolyn  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:32:20pm

re: #350 mama winger

Me too. Just a deep down feeling of sadness.

376 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:32:31pm

re: #367 Iron Fist

Turnabout being fair play.

377 cosmo  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:32:49pm

re: #366 Killgore Trout

It's a good bit--but cuts off. Notice it was done in February...and that the imam says "there's no homosexuality in Islam."

/no crying in baseball

378 LC LaWedgie  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:33:00pm

re: #372 Ward Cleaver

Yeah, him and another guy stole a truck and ran over a guard.

379 Roger  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:33:04pm

There is a similar "debate" back in time I could mention but I don't want anyone to pop a blood vessel;-) After the "debate" the world darkened and increased in desolation. The audience was much the same as this one and there was a Bollinger in it too. Lost in a similar way. Think back in history...choose the historical "debate" that makes comparable sense to you.

380 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:33:11pm

re: #159 Ward Cleaver

re: #121 Charles

"In Iran we don't have homosexuals like in your country."

Gets a big laugh from the students.

'Cause he's killed all the ones he can find.

No they don't have homosexuals like in our country.

Homosexuals in our country are not certain of being killed if they come out.
Homosexuals in our country have to tolerate discrimination from people that will condemn them with words and dirty looks.
Homosexuals in our country wonder how to tell their parents, and most of them are accepted as they are by loving families.
Homosexuals in our country get to have big parades on Pride days throughout the country.
Homosexuals in our country get their own TV shows.
Homosexuals in our country get to hear me say, "I'm flattered, but I don't play for your team" not, "Bob, get the noose, I found another one" when they hit on me. (It happened once, but we were very drunk.)

No, we do not have homosexuals like Iran.

381 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:33:31pm

re: #374 VinceP1974

All of this is warmup for his real speech to be given at the UN.

Last year he closed the speech with a prayer to Allah to hasten the coming of the Imam Mahdi.

I wonder what he's got in store this year.


Hopefully he'll spontaneously combust.

382 kulthur  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:33:43pm

Ha - I love the Arab/Farsi translator women they have here and, for example, on NPR. Reminds me of a comment made by a psychatrist who dedicated his post-9/11 work to developing a sociologically rigorous understanding of who these Islamists were, exactly. After relating that, whattayaknow, it wasn't poverty but "alientation" (i.e., hey I'm a muslim raised to imagine I'm somehow superior and yet I'm just a dork in an insular fearful and incompetent little tribal ghetto, what the hell?) and ideology, he went on to say, with a bemused expression, it isn't lack of sex either: "you should meet the women we interviewed - my god!"

HA! A bunch of banshees. Always amusing to hear the tone of an NPR producer or correspondant pushing in one direction, followed ten seconds later by its intended beneficiary's tone of vicious, expasperated malice - from which the faithful correspondant was attempting to distract her other intended beneficiary: the ignorant resentful little moonbats.

Honestly, what kind of ludicrous tragicomedy is this. O and props to Bollinger today for at least redeeming a shred of his dignity. That was a pretty great display, however cynical might have been the motivation. Good job!

But seriously, moonbats: no more of this double-edged crap. Next time, call him a petty fanatical lying tyrant While you refuse him a rostrum like Columbia U, ok?

383 droplet  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:34:33pm

re: #361 threeCents

Where is the coverage of the protest? Did they not happen?

FOX news ran a split screen of the protest during parts of The Speech (the audio was on for bozo, not the protest).

384 j-damn  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:36:22pm

re: #354 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #322 Iron Fist


re: #300 The Pulchritudinous Patriot,

What would Iran really do? Support international terrorism?


Iron Fist, you know me. I'm not taking up for the Dinner Jacket here. I'm merely saying that we don't need to assasinate him on American soil.

Maybe we can hook him up with a nice pilot from Egypt Air on his way out of JFK.

385 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:36:44pm

re: #364 EtNorskTroll

The weapon that will kill him is probably aboard some US carrier in the gulf at this very moment.

386 phoenixgirl  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:36:46pm

someone should do a satirical dinnerjacket roast at the friar's club

387 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:36:47pm

Turnaround is fair play. I think we should send Richard Simmons to give a speech in Iran.

388 red satellite  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:37:56pm

"....and it dishonered all of us as Americans."

Wrong. Don't speak for me, you pathetic POS. There are millions out there who weren't.

389 mama winger  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:37:57pm

re: #375 Carolyn

re: #350 mama winger

Me too. Just a deep down feeling of sadness.

Carolyn - i tried once before to respond to your post above but the hamsters didn't co-operate.

You are so on target with this. A POWERFUL DELUSION has come over people, and our children are being swept along in it, at the mercy of those to whom we have entrusted them. The educational system in this country is hell-bent (and I use that term literally) on dismantling whatever resources we are going to need when this atrocity comes upon the world.

Father of lies, and the liars who love him.

390 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:38:00pm

re: #372 Ward Cleaver

re: #362 LC LaWedgie


re: #355 Ward Cleaver

They caught that murderer from Collin Co. that escaped from Huntsville and murdered a guard.


Wow, I didn't even hear about that.

/going over to dallasnews.com

Oh, okay, he was in prison for attempted capital murder (shooting at Collin Co. sheriff's deputies and DPS troopers back in '94, in McKinney). Sad, they ran over a guard with a Huntsville city truck and killed her. Why was a female guard doing that job, anyway?

DMN saying they caught the other guy (murderer serving life from Matagorda Co.), but not Martin from Collin Co.

391 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:38:23pm

re: #386 phoenixgirl

I'd pay to see that.

392 alexa kim  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:38:28pm

I am ashamed that when Bollinger referred to the Columbia students who are war veterans, rather than a round of applause, it specifically was met with silence from the audience. Disgusting.

He continues to dance around the questions with what he usually does: he asks a question and then harangues us.

Bollinger's comments sounded great but amount to whispering at the executioner.

Columbia had better invite back the Minutemen and to give them the protection they deserved. In fact, the students who shouted Gilchrist down had better extend the invitation.

I also expect Coatsworth to invite the Aryan Brotherhood to speak, since Hitler is busy with a "bigger" name (though not the biggest).

To Gay People: Do you really think that the "don't ask, don't tell" policy, a reasonable compromise, is as bad as what the Iranian president just said about you? (You know you will never force the majority to openly accept you, but you are not prevented from joining, and you know that. We all know that you are among the brave, courageous, self-sacrificing, and we honor you for it. In fact, you in particular, go an extra measure to make an additional sacrifice in order to serve.)

If I were a graduate of Columbia, I'd hide my diploma for a while.

393 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:38:37pm

Effective speach by Der Fuhrer.

Gets his propaganda out to his own people and those in the Islamic world.

Hits the democratic talking points and those of the Jew haters so I am sure he picked up supporters there, as well as sowing more discontent among his enemy (us). Makes it harder now for the US to build a consensus against him here or internationally for the use of force if he does not stop the Nuke work. That buys him a lot of time to develop them. Made Bollinger look rude.
This should play very well in the mideast.
Looks like it has been a succesfull trip for him so far.

394 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:39:07pm

re: #387 newsjunkie_ky

Turnaround is fair play. I think we should send Richard Simmons to give a speech in Iran.


OMG! ROTFLMAO!

395 GreenSoccer  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:39:17pm

What is with our spineless media that they won't show the demonstrations? They show 1 reporter with 5 students beside him as if that is covering the demonstrations - not.
If it was Blacks being led by Jessie Jackson they would show it. If it was the million man march they would show it. If it was gays, they would show it. If it was Obama they would show it. Do they not show it because of the ownership of their shares by the Saudi Prince?

396 possumfest  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:39:18pm

I think if I was a professor and had tickets, I would pull a reverse code-pink and give my tickets to 2 or 3 godaddy.com models, and have them run up on stage for photos, and make sure the scandal gets distributed through Iran. That, or maybe 3 drag queens.

397 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:40:13pm

re: #387 newsjunkie_ky

Turnaround is fair play. I think we should send Richard Simmons to give a speech in Iran.

Harvey Fierstein.

398 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:41:12pm

re: #396 possumfest

I think if I was a professor and had tickets, I would pull a reverse code-pink and give my tickets to 2 or 3 godaddy.com models, and have them run up on stage for photos, and make sure the scandal gets distributed through Iran. That, or maybe 3 drag queens.

A big wet kiss from RuPaul.

399 opnion  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:42:00pm

All of the so nuanced progressives in the audience laughing and generall supporting this monster. The irony is really something. Mamoud is a murerous manic stuck somewhere in the sixth or seventh century & they treat him like a rock star,
When he and the other thugs sit around at night smoking their hooka pipes & drinking that crapy tea, they must really get a laugh. The very people that the hold in the most disdain & will kill first if they get a chance are their cheerleaders.

400 Globular Cluster  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:42:05pm

Gay people are the same as drug traffickers, according to Mahmoud, and therefore it is ok to execute them, just as Americans have capital punishment.

Who knew?

401 LC LaWedgie  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:42:13pm

re: #390 Ward Cleaver

Why was a female guard doing that job, anyway?

My first thoughts, too.

They've caught both of them.

402 mama winger  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:42:54pm

Hey Columbia Students!

Do something useful with your pathetic lives. Enlist, why don't ya.

403 grumpy old codger  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:42:56pm

What was said at Columbia is only really for US/Western consumption. Any criticism, etc., of this little shit will not appear on Irani media. It will be shown that our brave little dwarf bravely went into the Great Satan's den and "spoke truth to power". He will be applauded for standing up to the Great Satan and declaring that a plebiscite should determine the existence of the Little Satan. It was a propaganda coup meant for Iran and the Middle East. It might also get him some mileage among our "friends and allies" in Europe. Iran is flexing its geopolitical muscle because no one, that is the west, has stood up to this munchkin's ridiculous comments and ideology.
Yesterday, my division lost two soldiers, one of whom I knew. I place the blame for their deaths indirectly on the smurf's doorstep. His cries of bringing peace ring rather hollow, given Iran's actions. Securing borders has nothing to do with giving mines, etc., to terrorists who do Iran's bidding.
That's my take as a "former" scholar. I won't even get into the disgust I feel for this toxic gnome as a a Christian with Jewish blood.
Charles, your hamsters are slow. Apply the whip or increase their rations!

404 Droplet  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:43:07pm

re: #374 VinceP1974

All of this is warmup for his real speech to be given at the UN.

Last year he closed the speech with a prayer to Allah to hasten the coming of the Imam Mahdi.

I wonder what he's got in store this year.

Is Imam Mahdi the 12th Imam?
Can't wait for Alamadidajan's U.N. speech. Isn't Bush in NYC today? Damn, what did we ever do to deserve these two at this moment in history?

405 Bill Amos  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:43:13pm

New poll

What was biggest message out of Columbia university today ?

A) No Gays in IRan
B) The Columbia students are raving moonbats
C) Kos is upset that Amdailykos stole his talking points
D) Ron Paul !

406 CyanSnowHawk  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:43:33pm

re: #397 Ward Cleaver

re: #387 newsjunkie_ky

Turnaround is fair play. I think we should send Richard Simmons to give a speech in Iran.

Harvey Fierstein.

Or better yet, let Harvey play him in the movie.

407 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:43:51pm

re: #405 Bill Amos

New poll

What was biggest message out of Columbia university today ?

A) No Gays in IRan
B) The Columbia students are raving moonbats
C) Kos is upset that Amdailykos stole his talking points
D) Ron Paul !

RON PAUL!

408 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:44:03pm

re: #400 Globular Cluster

Because we routinely execute drug trafficers.

409 FightingBack  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:44:04pm

re: #397 Ward Cleaver

Rosie

410 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:44:12pm

re: #399 opnion

The audience and the speaker all hate the same authority, i.e. the Creator,
thus the coincidence of speech and applause.

411 Carolyn  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:44:23pm

Columbia students and Kossacks,
You strain at the gnat and swallow the camel whole.

412 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:45:06pm

re: #397 Ward Cleaver

re: #387 newsjunkie_ky


Turnaround is fair play. I think we should send Richard Simmons to give a speech in Iran.

Harvey Fierstein.

I'd go with Ellen for the daily double (gay and a woman).

413 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:46:02pm

re: #357 Ringo the Gringo

Don't throw your shoe, bro!

414 gmsc  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:46:29pm

I think military recruiters should try and recruit on the Columbia campus. When people protest their policy against homosexuals, they should just reply that there is no policy against gays, because there are no gays in this country.

415 mama winger  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:47:13pm

re: #402 mama winger

Hey Columbia Students!

Do something useful with your pathetic lives. Enlist, why don't ya.


Here ya go

416 marwan's daughter  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:47:17pm

Please post clips of this, somebody! I had class, and I really wanted to watch this f*** tard Ahmadinutjob.

417 LC LaWedgie  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:47:22pm

re: #409 FightingBack

That was my second thought. heh

418 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:47:55pm

re: #385 Ojoe

I wish.
It wasn't that easy to get Saddam.

419 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:48:08pm

re: #406 CyanSnowHawk

re: #397 Ward Cleaver


re: #387 newsjunkie_ky

Turnaround is fair play. I think we should send Richard Simmons to give a speech in Iran.

Harvey Fierstein.

Or better yet, let Harvey play him in the movie.

Ouch.

420 Iron Fist  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:48:50pm

re: #354 The Pulchritudinous Patriot,

Heh™. That brings all kinds of ideas to mind :-)

421 desertdweller  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:49:25pm

If Imadinnerjacket denies the Holocaust, he can take the mantle of victimhood from Jews. (This was described in the past but I can't attribute the source).
Poor Persian victims!

422 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:49:29pm

re: #418 hous bin pharteen

Let us hope and pray it will be easy this time.

423 xenophobic  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:49:50pm

Question is how edited will this be on Iranian state TV? There was enough cheers to spin it that the 'U.S people' support him.

424 Ojoe  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:50:52pm

re: #423 xenophobic

Every bit of applause was treason in my opinion.

425 Pvt Bin Jammin  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:51:02pm

Well I'll be darned if I didn't just get a thank you letter from Camp Taji, Iraq....right in the middle of the speech. Made my day!

426 loppyd  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:51:36pm

re: #416 marwan's daughter

Please post clips of this, somebody! I had class, and I really wanted to watch this f*** tard Ahmadinutjob.

C-Span will probably re-broadcast it....check their website.

427 FightingBack  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:52:28pm

This just proves how useless rhetoric is when confronting true evil. Columbia&co can blab all they want. Now they've had their "dialogue" and their "open exchange of ideas." We listened, they applauded, he smiled. What was accomplished? Nothing. They've had their day.

It will take military might to set things straight.

428 Confuzed  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:53:02pm

Instead of waving light wands like some concert-goers do, the audience members should take off their shoes and wave to him with them.

Applause should be conducted by clapping shoes together, with chants of
Israel Akbar.

Let's see how tolerant he is of dissent.

429 lawhawk  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:54:08pm

re: #423 xenophobic

Question is how edited will this be on Iranian state TV? There was enough cheers to spin it that the 'U.S people' support him.

It will be spun to make Ahmadinejad look most favorable, and the members of the audience will be treated as set pieces - to be used to the benefit of the Iranian regime. Their cheers and jeers will alternatively be shown to show their support of Ahmadinejad and how we have not yet come to submit to Islam (the jeers on the gay comments in particular).

430 Spiny Norman  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:54:14pm

re: #408 Sharmuta

re: #400 Globular Cluster

Because we routinely execute drug trafficers.

We do? The why the f*ck is Pineapple Face Noriega about to be paroled?!?

431 phoenixgirl  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:54:17pm

re: #419 Ward Cleaver

re: #406 CyanSnowHawk


re: #397 Ward Cleaver

re: #387 newsjunkie_ky

Turnaround is fair play. I think we should send Richard Simmons to give a speech in Iran.

Harvey Fierstein.

Or better yet, let Harvey play him in the movie.

Ouch.


i think nathan lane should play the dinnerjacket

432 Peacekeeper  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:54:28pm

“This is a place of high learning and if the president (of Columbia) thinks it’s a good idea to have the leader from Iran come and talk to the students as an educational experience, I guess it’s OK with me,” Bush told FOX News in an interview.

"I guess" ? WTF? You're tired out man.

433 ciaospirit  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:56:04pm

AP's story is up:

Tough US welcome for Iran's Ahmadinejad

NEW YORK - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad took the stage at Columbia University on Monday to a blistering reception from the president of the school, who said the hard-line leader behaved like "a petty and cruel dictator."
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Ahmadinejad smiled as Columbia President Lee Bollinger took him to task over Iran's human-rights record and foreign policy, and Ahmadinejad's statements denying the Holocaust and calling for the disappearance of Israel.

"Mr. President, you exhibit all the signs of a petty and cruel dictator," Bollinger said, to loud applause.

He said Ahmadinejad's denial of the Holocaust might fool the illiterate and ignorant.

"When you come to a place like this it makes you simply ridiculous," Bollinger said. "The truth is that the Holocaust is the most documented event in human history."

Ahmadinejad rose, also to applause, and after a religious invocation, said Bollinger's opening was: "an insult to information and the knowledge of the audience here."

"There were insults and claims that were incorrect, regretfully," Ahmadinejad said, accusing Bollinger of falling under the influence of the hostile U.S. press and politicians.

"I should not begin by being affected by this unfriendly treatment," he said.

434 AirForceWife  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:56:38pm

Sorry to have to re-post this but I kept refreshing the page and did not see a second thread on this so didn't know I was posting on a dead thread. Anyways....

How about the student from Columbia interviewed on Fox news after the speech? She believes that dialog is the answer to all of our differences. So what good came out of Ahmedinejad's speech today then? Was he convinced to stop his nuclear weapons program? Or were more people convinced of his lies that "Iran is a loving and peaceful nation"? Dialog is highly over-rated by liberals. How many deeply held beliefs have ever been changed by dialog? Too small of a number to count on it preventing a nuclear exchange I'd say.

The Soviets were far more rational than Islamic fundamentalists are and even they needed a thousand nukes pointed at them in order to be negotiated with. They could be deterred because they understood the enormous ramifications to themselves of using their weapons against us and were not suicidal. The threat we face today does not view loss of human life the way we do. Speaking today gave him the opportunity to use his lies as a means of fooling more people into underestimating Iran as an enemy of western civilization.

435 ciaospirit  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:59:10pm

More from the AP:

"You are either brazenly provocative or astonishingly uneducated," Bollinger told Ahmadinejad about the leader's Holocaust denial. "Will you cease this outrage?"

Ahmadinejad said he simply wanted more research on the Holocaust, which he said was abused as a justification for Israeli mistreatment of the Palestinians.

"Why is it that the Palestinian people are paying the price for an event they had nothing to do with?" Ahmadinejad asked. He closed his prepared remarks with a terse smile, to applause and boos, before taking questions from the audience.

Thousands of people jammed two blocks of 47th Street across from the United Nations to protest Ahmadinejad's visit to New York. Organizers claimed a turnout of tens of thousands. Police did not immediately have a crowd estimate.

436 Spiny Norman  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 12:59:19pm

re: #134 ArcherB

When I read the phrase immoral war, I would like to respond with What would you call a moral war?

I would like to know what would it take for a war to be deemed legitimate and supported by these pinheads. (Other than a Democrat being in charge, of course.)

When the US has absolutely no strategic, economic, or even self-defense interests in the conflict whatsoever. "Meals on Wheels" courtesy of the Pentagon.

437 alexa kim  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:03:04pm

re: #313 americanpundit

Who is this student on Fox now? Does she really believe he'll take our thoughts and feelings to implement elsewhere? She thinks the people in Iran will get to hear Bollinger, too, seeing their President questioned. Oy.

Oh yeah, she's an eye-roller. If she isn't an excellent example of why ignoring the condition of our campuses for this long actually endangers our country, I don't know what is. Wait! I forgot about the abundant supply over at KosKinderKare.

Critical thinking went the way of common sense that went the way of the mammoth.

I hate to admit it but I think it's true: my generation's crop of parents has failed not only their own children, but America. I'll be apologizing for the rest of my life. I'm so very sorry.

438 Roger  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:03:30pm

It truly is the worship of mojoistic sophistry.

439 crabtree  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:04:37pm

Once upon a time when people in this country had backbone I remember that Fidel came to NY for a UN get-together and was not allowed to go anywhere except the UN and his hotel (which as I recall was in Harlem to show his solidarity with the common folk). We may be obligated to let tyrants come to the UN, but we aren't obligated to let them be treated like celebrities. Bush's "yeah, whatever" attitude is totally inappropriate and represents a missed opportunity to make clear what we think of a country that is actively KILLING our soldiers in Iraq. I know he likes to remain above the fray rather than engaging his critics, but sometimes it is necessary and important to get down and dirty, and this was one of those times.

440 cosmo  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:06:05pm

re: #406 CyanSnowHawk

re: #397 Ward Cleaver

re: #387 newsjunkie_ky

Turnaround is fair play. I think we should send Richard Simmons to give a speech in Iran.

Harvey Fierstein.

Or better yet, let Harvey play him in the movie.

I would pay $10 for that. You can guarantee that movie wouldn't make the screenings at Cannes or Sundance, though. Movies starring gay characters are kosher, but those disparaging islam are kuffar.

441 coquimbojoe  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:06:26pm

Apparently, there is teh ghey in Iran. I remember recently a minister in their govenment's boyfriend had to have a sex change so things would remain kosher....er...so to speak. Anybody got a link for that?

442 jonturner  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:06:54pm

re: #401 LC LaWedgie

re: #390 Ward Cleaver

Why was a female guard doing that job, anyway?
My first thoughts, too.

Political correctness and EEOC. Same with policemen, firemen, paramedics and the military, and it's putting everyone's safety at jeopardy. Scrawny women can't and shouldn't attempt to do a big man's job. And neither should scrawny men. Reality doesn't care about EEOC rules.

443 coquimbojoe  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:08:26pm

Oh, and does the Ayatollah' Khomeini's book allow for beastiality? Give me a parade full of gays any day over the animal buggers!

444 doubledip  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:09:46pm
Coatsworth went over and shook his hand.

Wondering if Coatsworth had any problems with Rumsfeld and Saddam shaking hands the way many on the left do....maybe Coatsworth can invite Rummy on campus to speak about it....

445 jonturner  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:10:40pm

re: #421 desertdweller

If Imadinnerjacket denies the Holocaust, he can take the mantle of victimhood from Jews. (This was described in the past but I can't attribute the source).
Poor Persian victims!


If he can deny the Holocaust, can I deny the Crusades?

446 mama winger  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:10:41pm

re: #427 FightingBack

This just proves how useless rhetoric is when confronting true evil. Columbia&co can blab all they want. Now they've had their "dialogue" and their "open exchange of ideas." We listened, they applauded, he smiled. What was accomplished? Nothing. They've had their day.

It will take military might to set things straight.

Bravo. Wonderful post.

447 Joan Not of Arc  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:12:56pm

I really feel the world has gone mad.
I agree with you, Charles, that that Bollinger insulted Ahmadinejad to save face. Too late for that.
I think that even if another terrorist attack were to occur, nothing would come of it. We generally have lost all will and resolve to even get incensed let alone to retaliate.

448 JethroC  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:13:40pm

Mental note: Never hire students from Columbia Univesity.

449 jonturner  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:15:01pm

re: #437 alexa kim

I hate to admit it but I think it's true: my generation's crop of parents has failed not only their own children, but America. I'll be apologizing for the rest of my life. I'm so very sorry.

It started with The Greatest Generation. They went off and fought two world wars, but raised the Baby Boom generation which is destroying all that for which their parents sacrificed. GenX is mostly just clueless, self-absorbed nitwits; to wit: "Valley Girl."

450 JethroC  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:15:56pm

Ooops. UniveRsity. My R is sticking.

451 Geepers  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:18:35pm

ciaospirit (#433),

From your link:

"Mr. President, you exhibit all the signs of a petty and cruel dictator," Bollinger said, to loud applause.

He said Ahmadinejad's denial of the Holocaust might fool the illiterate and ignorant.

"When you come to a place like this it makes you simply ridiculous," Bollinger said. "The truth is that the Holocaust is the most documented event in human history."

Ahmadinejad rose, also to applause, and after a religious invocation, said Bollinger's opening was: "an insult to information and the knowledge of the audience here."

Well I guess that tells us what he thinks of Columbia students.

"You're all ignorant and illiterate."

"Isn't he special? I just love him."

452 possumfest  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:19:47pm

I wish they could have showed a video of men and women being stoned in Iran--- before his speech. Sidenote: Braveheart has been playing on the History Channel at the same time. If purposeful, the programmer is a magnificent guy.

453 Geepers  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:24:47pm

alexa kim (#437),

I hate to admit it but I think it's true: my generation's crop of parents has failed not only their own children, but America. I'll be apologizing for the rest of my life. I'm so very sorry.

Thanks anyway.

454 alexa kim  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:31:32pm

re: #449 jonturner

re: #437 alexa kim
I hate to admit it but I think it's true: my generation's crop of parents has failed not only their own children, but America. I'll be apologizing for the rest of my life. I'm so very sorry.

It started with The Greatest Generation. They went off and fought two world wars, but raised the Baby Boom generation which is destroying all that for which their parents sacrificed. GenX is mostly just clueless, self-absorbed nitwits; to wit: "Valley Girl."

The Greatest Generation thought they were improving the lot of their childrens' lives by not using some of the harsher methods of child raising used on them. Unfortunately, they threw the baby out with the bath water. So rather than keeping the sound parenting methods of molding what are essentially wild creatures (children), they decided to be nice and friendly and indulgent and, dare I say it, tolerant. So tolerant that our children will now tolerate anything and think it's ok.

I am hoping that more parents will come out of their hyper-defensive fog of denial and start fixing the damage. We can reverse the tide, but we have to start yesterday and keep fighting until fools like Bollinger lose their jobs, and the stinking State Department is slapped back into shape. God, at least I hope so, before it's too late.

455 Greensoccer  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:32:14pm

Come to think of it, there are no homosexuals in Iran. They killed them. It reminds me of when a representative was asked about Jews in Germany twenty or thirty years ago. He said "We don't have them." Guess why.

456 alexa kim  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:34:41pm

re: #453 Geepers

alexa kim (#437),

I hate to admit it but I think it's true: my generation's crop of parents has failed not only their own children, but America. I'll be apologizing for the rest of my life. I'm so very sorry.

Thanks anyway.

And I'll be doing more than just apologizing, I will. I will try what I can to turn it around, with every child I come across now. It's not easy to get other parents to listen, because, as you know, every parent thinks they're children are perfect and their parenting is perfect.

457 Greensoccer  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:36:50pm

You can't fix the State Dept. It has been the way it is for about 100 years. In fact when I listened to that fool Ron Paul and he was talking about getting rid of all sorts of departments of the Federal government, he left out the State Department as a department of which to get rid.

458 Mardukhai  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:37:30pm

Just send the bastard to Guantanamo until the embassy in Tehran is returned, the former hostages are compensated, and the criminals are in our hands.

It's just reciprocity. They broke diplomatic law, it's not a one way street.

459 Geepers  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:37:48pm

alexa kim (#456),

I will try what I can to turn it around, with every child I come across now.

Well good at ya then.

460 sandspur  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:37:48pm

re: #357 Ringo the Gringo

re: #280 Charles

re: #234 Ringo the Gringo


Not one student has stood up and thrown a shoe at him yet?


The students were warned that if they stood up, they'd be taken out by the Secret Service.

Had I been there, I probably wouldn't have thrown my shoe at him....I would have simply tossed it onto the stage.

I doubt they could charge you with much for throwing a shoe on stage.

Of course the tasering afterwards might hurt a bit.

Too bad the audience didn't simply all remove their shoes and hold them aloft, soles pointed at Satan's Sidekick.

461 Stuck-in-CA  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:44:04pm

re: #455 Greensoccer

Come to think of it, there are no homosexuals in Iran. They killed them. It reminds me of when a representative was asked about Jews in Germany twenty or thirty years ago. He said "We don't have them." Guess why.

That's exactly right. They don't have gays because they came up with the "solution" to the problem. And now there is no longer a problem.

462 cosmo  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:48:44pm

re: #445 jonturner

re: #421 desertdweller

If Imadinnerjacket denies the Holocaust, he can take the mantle of victimhood from Jews. (This was described in the past but I can't attribute the source).
Poor Persian victims!


If he can deny the Holocaust, can I deny the Crusades?

Other things that never happened:

711 Berbers from N. Africa do not invade the Iberian Peninsula
1212 Christian forces do not defeat muslims at Navas de Tolosa
0 Christ not born
33 Christ not crucified
ca. 70 Temple at Jerusalem not destroyed
ca. 1465 Gutenberg doesn't invent printing press
1776 America does not declare its independence from Britain
ca. 10,000 BC Man does not discover and domesticate fire
1969 Man does not land on moon
2000 Recount in Florida does not show Bush wins election
2000 Second recount in Florida does not show Bush wins election
2000 Third recount in Florida does not show Bush wins election

/River in Egypt

463 Stuck-in-CA  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:49:23pm

And with all this opportunity to show a real affront to this monster, so far I haven't heard of any (other than Bollinger's faux attack). Instead he got cheers and applause. I fear for the future of this nation, when there are so many braindead lemmings running around in it....most of them in leadership and future leadership positions.

464 Piglet-U93  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:54:00pm

re: #445 jonturner

re: #421 desertdweller

If Imadinnerjacket denies the Holocaust, he can take the mantle of victimhood from Jews. (This was described in the past but I can't attribute the source).
Poor Persian victims!


If he can deny the Holocaust, can I deny the Crusades?

The Holocaust is fact and the Crusades are fact.
The Crusades began after 450+ years of Islam slaughtering millions of Christians and Jews. After the conquest of entire Spain, Northern Africa and to the door steps of Rome and to the libraries of India.

Islam destroys history it is what they do.

465 ciaospirit  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:56:30pm

I'm glad Bollinger at least took Nutjob to task. I didn't expect that much.

466 finallyhere  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:01:43pm

I blame Bush and Rice for this travesty. They are busy trying to force Israel to commit suicide, but they allowed this terrorist to cruise around NYC.

Not that Columbia officials are blameless, but "the root cause" are Bush and Rice.

467 MODERATIONIST[deleted]  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:04:25pm
468 ciaospirit  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:09:36pm

re: #467 MODERATIONIST

Maybe Ahmadinejad should be asked why there are few descendents of black slaves in the Arab world: answer: black males were castrated (at 90% mortality rate) and black babies were killed upon birth!

Link? I'd like to read more.

469 zipity  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:11:04pm

reminds me of a bit from the TV comedy "Soap" which had Billy Crystal playing a gay man who fathers a child with a woman who subsequently runs off with another man, leaving Billy with the child. The womans mother arrives from Texas and when she learns Billy is gay, she says "We don't have homosexuals in Texas. Well, not live ones anyway...."

470 leepro  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:14:30pm
Lots of readers seem to think Columbia president Lee Bollinger deserves credit for his opening speech. I don’t. I think it was an attempt to redeem his reputation and keep the money flowing in from alumni, and does not even begin to make up for the atrocity of giving this creature a podium at one of America’s most prestigious schools.

I agree 1000%! This was a totally hypocritical, sycophantic, a**kissing turnabout designed to protect himself and curry favor with CU Alums.

Also, having read yesterday the he (Bollinger) would be choosing which of the student-submitted questions would be read, I fully expected the usual left wing patronizing of a mass murderer and declared enemy of the USA. While I was glad the right questions were actually asked, for Bollinger, it was too little, too late. The real damage was done in the invitation and pandering in the first place.

Then, after denying the free speech of conservative viewpoints on his own campus, he had the nerve to challenge Ahmadidajob to allow free-speech advocates on Iran's campuses!

Sidenote:
I did notice a good amount of applause and cheering at the statements and questions Bollinger presented.

471 GreenSoccer  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:43:27pm

By the way, when he mentioned Iranian Jews I checked with Jimena, Jews Indigenous to the Middle East and North Africa. She said :
"There are about 20,000 living in Iran, and they won't leave! It is
home and they are afraid to go some where else."

We had plenty come to Quebec back in the 1960's and 70's.

He talked about the poor "Palestinians" who have had nowhere to go for the last 60 years while Israel absorbed from Muslim lands, Jews who were more numerous than the number of "Palestinian" refugees - see the move "The Forgotten Refugees" or look up the site of Jimena on the internet. Don't order the DVD from Amazon as they are not fulfilling their orders. Order it from Jimena for $50. or possibly the David Project. And Israel is 1/625 the size of Muslim lands and new so the fact that the "Palestinians" have not been absorbed is not the fault of Israel but of the Arab rulers who have used the "Palestinians" as political pawns by not absorbing them. Either that or it is the fault of the "Palestinians" who made themselves such a pain in the neck in every country they lived that they were kicked out by the hundreds of thousands.

472 GreenSoccer  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:46:41pm

re: #468 ciaospirit

I don't know about Moderationist's story but look at Darfur. The Arabs are racially cleansing the land of Black Christians to create more room for Muslims and Arabs.

473 southernborn  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:53:54pm

Wonder what Israel was thinking when the brainless ones cheered when the maniac mentioned the poor Palestinians.Don't worry Israel we out number those brainless incompetent fools.

474 FightingBack  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:55:02pm

re: #454 alexa kim

I think this was related to the drop in child mortality, and the development of vaccines that removed threats of most common childhood diseases. The Boomers suffered Polio and Measles, but their children did not. The next generation has not even heard of these diseases. Child rearing activities were no longer affected by the need to outwit contagion, and parents were able to be successful ( to rear kids to adulthood) with much less work. As a result, they turned their efforts towards their own recreational practices, and away from controlling the kids.

Before the 1970's, only extraordinary women worked outside of the home. After that, work became normal, and expected. Many women who did not have the skills to balance both worlds were thrust into them, nonetheless. Score another against disciplined child nurturing.

Finally, the disciplinary head of the family ("Just wait 'til your father gets home.") was replaced by no one, in some cases, and institutional surrogates, in many others. When a father, figuratively, provides the food on the table, that gives him the moral authority to ask "Did you do your homework?"

Child rearing is successfully accomplished by parents in many situations, including the above, of course. But it takes extraordinary parents, making personal sacrifice that is not the norm, to do so in these circumstances.

475 big L  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 3:13:56pm

I guess the lefties and bollinger want to prove that the war on terror is bull and that we can "reason" with them, just invite them over for lunch and a speech. And these despots are just like us,college professors. No need for armies and war. Halocaust denial? Translation faulty. Wpe the jews in Israel offthe map? Just a Farsi figure of speech. No gays in Iran? sure we are diferent than the USA. Of course, if a gay came to our attention, he'd run in front of a firing machine pistol, no prob. Capital punishment? sure, but more civilized..we use a crane and just raise it in the air until their neck is lonesome for their skull...
so bollinger proves his point, nothing to see, move along.

476 alexa kim  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 3:31:59pm

re: #474 FightingBack

re: #454 alexa kim

I think this was related to the drop in child mortality, and the development of vaccines that removed threats of most common childhood diseases. The Boomers suffered Polio and Measles, but their children did not. The next generation has not even heard of these diseases. Child rearing activities were no longer affected by the need to outwit contagion, and parents were able to be successful ( to rear kids to adulthood) with much less work. As a result, they turned their efforts towards their own recreational practices, and away from controlling the kids.

Before the 1970's, only extraordinary women worked outside of the home. After that, work became normal, and expected. Many women who did not have the skills to balance both worlds were thrust into them, nonetheless. Score another against disciplined child nurturing.

Finally, the disciplinary head of the family ("Just wait 'til your father gets home.") was replaced by no one, in some cases, and institutional surrogates, in many others. When a father, figuratively, provides the food on the table, that gives him the moral authority to ask "Did you do your homework?"

Child rearing is successfully accomplished by parents in many situations, including the above, of course. But it takes extraordinary parents, making personal sacrifice that is not the norm, to do so in these circumstances.

And who is responsible for fathers not being a part of the family unit? I really don't want to have that discussion here (it would derail the thread). But you do understand part of the problem.

And in Texas, getting vaccinations is optional. Because a bunch of people have scared the under-educated into thinking that there's a mass conspiracy to poison them. And so whooping cough is on the rise. So don't get all comfy about all the ground gained by vaccination.

477 Joseph  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 3:54:40pm
Gordon Biddy from Vancouver, Canada writes: Israel and it's Zionist policies are the only problem.

Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Afghanistan, Syria are just in the way. Scapegoats who's deeds and misdeeds are blown out of proportion to serve the purpose of Israel and it's puppet-state, the US.

This isn't a conspiracy theory because it isn't a theory: there is more than enough evidence, historical and present, to overwhelmingly prove this as fact.

We gentiles are witnessing the mid-stages of a very well orchestrated, ongoing, and longe-lived campaign to place Israel and it's beliefs, values, world-view, and citizenry, at the centre of the Western world.

We have been so mislead and deceived--just look around and see where the bombs are falling, who is dying, who is in prison, who is loosing land, who is expanding, who is impoverished, who is rich, who is oppressed, and who claims to be free, and who is benefiting from the status quo.

The pattern of this truth is so easily seen for those willing to scratch the centuries of sleep out of their eyes...

My Zionist Death-Ray machine is prompting me for Biddy's coords and I can't seem to uncover the info.. Any ideas?

478 jayzee  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 3:55:53pm

OK-he was lying about the gay thing, but everything else he was pretty truthful with.

/koskid

Actually, the best spin comes from AP Iran will not attack Israel. Actually the quote is "Iran will not attack any country,"
Two things the MSM failed to mention:
1) He lies like a Persian rug
2) Iran DOES not consider Israel a country. Indeed when asked the question at Columbia he called Israel "Palestine" with "Palestinian" Jews, Muslims and Christians.

How they extracted that Iran has no intention of attacking Israel from the above mentioned quote illustrates the worst kind of editorializing from a supposed straight news source.

479 GreenSoccer  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 4:46:25pm

re: #467 MODERATIONIST

By the way, Persians are not Arabs. Persians had their own civilization. Arabs come from the Arabian peninsula across the Red Sea from Egypt.

480 GreenSoccer  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 4:48:46pm

re: #363 loppyd

The last time there were demonstraitons about his stating that he wanted to wipe out israel, Fox did not show 1 photograph of the demonstrations.

481 marjoriemoon  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 5:02:59pm

Hey guys! What's shakin? I'm probably too late to the party, but here goes.

I agree with Charles' assessment about Bolinger, but maybe for different reasons. I didn't see the video live but have been reading here, at Malkin and various sundry places all day. At any rate, I think it was despicable for Bollinger to insult him like that, for whatever reason. He should have had the balls to ask him serious questions without the insult or never should have invited him at all.

I see it this way. Ahmedineajad is a liar, more than that, of course, a sadistic kook. We have to talk to him to know this? He's trying to make nicey to the far left with his warm and fuzzy statements of peace but all of his answers are rehearsed and well placed. What does he say in his own country? Death to us all. There are no surprises here. And so Bollinger goes in, NOT for a real discourse as he was claiming, but as an antagonist, fueling an ever-burning fire. I really don't see the point of this ridiculous excerise. Free speech? What have we learned that we didn't know?

482 marjoriemoon  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 5:13:41pm

re: #471 GreenSoccer

By the way, when he mentioned Iranian Jews I checked with Jimena, Jews Indigenous to the Middle East and North Africa. She said : "There are about 20,000 living in Iran, and they won't leave! It is home and they are afraid to go some where else."

That number is about right. I heard it a bit larger, 25-30,000. I don't know the reasons why they don't leave. Economics maybe, not wanting to leave their homeland. Maybe it's understandable, but seeing how many there are now, many have indeed left. Do you know where the largest concentration of Persian Jews live today? In Israel. So yes, they have a choice.

483 Greensoccer  Tue, Sep 25, 2007 6:05:33am

re: #475 big L

I don't know what was accomplished. Bollinger insulted him before speaking. Then they asked questions to which Ahma did not answer or answered with a propaganda statement or lied. They moved on. No where was there a rebuttal or a clarification. One is supposed to learn from this? 45% of Lefties on the Kos poll said they'd rather have him as president than Bush. So that translates to millions that bought his lies. The media went "tut tut tut, can you believe it?" but they did not go over his answers and show where he lied. The media acted like Americans know who he is and what his former statements have been. The media did not show films of his speeches nor pictures of those executed. They did not interview Iranians who had been tortured. So a propagandist got a stage. The media did not review the history of Irans' relations with the US. That might have taken work.

Propagandist 10 Education 0

Apparently Horowitz is launching an education program.
I wonder if Columbia will let him speak or whether he'll need a defense team to speak.


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