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Columbia Students Applaud and Cheer Ahmadinejad

Mon, Sep 24, 2007 at 1:13:44 pm PDT

Here’s the conclusion of mini-Hitler’s speech at Columbia, in which he invites the students to visit Iran (applause, applause), then finishes with some “love, peace, and brotherhood” bunkum and gets a round of sustained applause, with cheers.

Watch at the end, as Columbia dean John Coatsworth walks over and shakes Ahmadinejad’s hand, smiling.

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1 mama winger  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:15:18pm

There were boos throughout the speech that gave me a glimmer of hope. Not all our young people are noodles.

2 Abu Al-Poopypants  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:15:43pm

Screw him! /kos

3 filetandrelease  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:16:11pm

I still think a shoe would have been better than a jeer.

4 SummerSong  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:16:15pm

Sickening...Just incredibly offensive.

5 Le_Patriot  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:16:29pm

I am simultaneously sad and angry

6 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:17:14pm

Expensive education doesn't prevent idiocy, I guess.

7 Wookieelips  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:18:36pm

"Treated with 100% respect."....
As long as you're not a Jew, woman, or gay. Or too outspoken against the regime. Or not a muslim. Or you just look funny to us....

8 Dirk Diggler  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:18:38pm

As usual, President Bush responds forcefully and unequivocally to Ahmadinejad's speech...

“This is a place of high learning and if the president (of Columbia) thinks it’s a good idea to have the leader from Iran come and talk to the students as an educational experience, I guess it’s OK with me,” Bush told FOX News in an interview.

Umm-kay.

9 mama winger  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:18:56pm

And then there are students like this

[Link: wcco.com...]

10 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:19:02pm

re: #6 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Expensive education doesn't prevent idiocy, I guess.

Apparently it opens vast new vistas of idiocy.

Most PHDs stand for Piled Higher and Deeper.

11 Sharmuta  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:19:08pm

Thank you for posting video for the Lizards who missed this, Charles.

/Off to watch

12 MandyManners  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:19:13pm

re: #1 mama winger

There were boos throughout the speech that gave me a glimmer of hope. Not all our young people are noodles.

I think some eyes were--if at least not completely opened--fluttering awake.

13 Iron Fist  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:19:14pm

Somewhere in Iran, a missile is missing its target.

14 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:19:16pm

Any word on what the Persian Hitler Wannabe's Big Eid al Fitr surprise around October 12th is supposed to be?


I wonder about a small scale nuke test in the desert, but anything is possible, I suppose.

15 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:19:17pm

This is why I will refuse to pay tuition for my childred should they ever be accepted at Columbia.

16 BingoBunny  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:20:06pm

"Best of luck to all of you.".. and remember tin foil hats also reduce fallout.

17 FrogMarch  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:20:17pm

Ahmadinejad left out his anti-Israel screed. How odd. I'll bet the anti-Israel leftists in the audience wanted to hear that.

18 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:20:51pm

re: #14 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Any word on what the Persian Hitler Wannabe's Big Eid al Fitr surprise around October 12th is supposed to be?


I wonder about a small scale nuke test in the desert, but anything is possible, I suppose.


If it turns out to be a nuke test, I think we will see our fighters adding a few extra doors, windows and skylights to Mahmood's palace(s).

19 Ben Hur  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:21:01pm

If he didn't go to Columbia, he would've gone to Princeton, and we just couldn't have THAT now, could we?

20 mama winger  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:21:06pm

re: #12 MandyManners

It's ironic, but one thing that may work in the conservatives favor is the whole gay issue.

21 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:21:21pm

re: #17 FrogMarch

Ahmadinejad left out his anti-Israel screed. How odd. I'll bet the anti-Israel leftists in the audience wanted to hear that.

He's saving it for the UN.

22 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:21:42pm

re: #16 BingoBunny

"Best of luck to all of you.".. and remember tin foil hats also reduce fallout.


I hope he gets offered lox and bagels for breakfast tomorrow morning.

23 judymac  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:22:14pm

He is a clever, clever man . . . but sometimes the truth pops out, like his "Iran has no homosexuals" line. I mean - I'm sure even Pat Robertson snickered at that one.

24 xenophobic  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:22:18pm

Ajax is hanging like a "non-existent" homosexual in Iran.

25 loppyd  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:22:35pm

Moonbats to Dinnerjacket:

Say you what you want about the Joos, but leave the gays out of it!

26 RickZ  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:22:57pm

Interesting point made (with pictures) about today's Ahmanutjob 'speech' at Columbia.

If Columbia is not ashamed of the decision... then why did they blacken out the podium and the backdrop?

27 jemima  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:23:01pm

It wasn't as bad as it could have been. Bollinger could have gotten down on his knees and given Shorty a Lewinski.

28 SummerSong  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:24:11pm

re: #24 xenophobic

Ajax is hanging like a "non-existent" homosexual in Iran.

Nomination for rotating title

29 Ben Hur  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:24:25pm

I heard a quick answer from a Columbia student on the radio news this morning on why she was going to hear him speak.

"Because, I like, wanna hear what he has to say."

*Sigh*

30 BrianA  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:24:37pm

KosKids seething over Bollinger's introductory remarks.

Bollinger's Diatribe

31 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:24:42pm

"Mahmoud, Mahmoud, he's our man! If he can't kill the Jews, no one can!"

/sarc, obviously

32 xenophobic  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:25:17pm

re: #27 jemima

It wasn't as bad as it could have been. Bollinger could have gotten down on his knees and given Shorty a Lewinski.

He gave the alumni cash cows one instead.

33 loppyd  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:25:20pm

re: #29 Ben Hur

I heard a quick answer from a Columbia student on the radio news this morning on why she was going to hear him speak.

"Because, I like, wanna hear what he has to say."

*Sigh*

BEN HUR!

I weep for the future.

Miss me?

34 filetandrelease  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:25:32pm

re: #26 RickZ


Whoaa, interesting, not sure how to explain that one away.

35 shibumi  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:25:56pm

I'm sure this essentially positive response from the Columbia crowd will only give credence back in the Middle East to the concept that most in the U.S. are sympathetic to the Iranian regime. Dinner Jacket will be hailed for standing up to the Great Satan. His popularity will increase; the only upside to that is the fact that it might anger the Bin Laden crowd and cause some internal Sunni/Shiite strife.

36 nevergiveup  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:26:05pm

Strategically I think the little rat bastard may have a point. Now follow me on this. The next illegal immigration bill that comes up for a fight--we just oppose it because ,well, there are no illegal immigrants! N o illegal immigrants; Therefore, no need for a bill. The liberals have to go along.

37 FrogMarch  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:26:43pm

Ahmadinejad invites everyone to Iran and they will be treated with 100% respect.

Gays and uncovered women too?
What if I want to wear a cross around my neck?
What if I want to wear a star or David?
What if I want to shout out - (left-winger American style) death to Ahmadinejad! Will I have access to free speech?

38 mike_trivisonno  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:26:58pm

Well, at least we know they don't have gay people in Iran.

Phew! That was a close one!

39 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:27:07pm

re: #29 Ben Hur

I heard a quick answer from a Columbia student on the radio news this morning on why she was going to hear him speak.

"Because, I like, wanna hear what he has to say."

*Sigh*

Brainiac.

40 Rednek  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:27:23pm

Mini-Hitler?

I think he should be called the Lesser-Hitler...at least until he gets the Bomb.

41 observer  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:27:24pm

This guy reminds me of Rudolf Hess, and hi "mision of peace"in his flight to England. The Brits knew what to do with him because they then still knew evil existed and that it had to be fought. The reception at Columbia and the Bush comment show me that too many in the West have lost both understanding and will. Bad, bad omens.

42 chinesearithmetic  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:27:41pm

16:23 EDT Welcome, sucker!
16:24 EDT Welcome, sucker!
16:25...

43 DeMoeial  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:27:43pm

Can anyone point me to the full version of the event?

44 Ben Hur  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:27:55pm

re: #33 loppyd

Always.

I went away for 2 1/2 weeks and Boston imploded.

45 Mister Ghost  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:28:25pm

How stupid are these self-loathing American progressives?

I can see Muslim Supremacists cheering on Ahmadinejad, but don't these Progressive types in the Moonbat colloquium
understand what Mahmoud and his fellow Islamic Radicalists did to their leftist brethren during the Islamic Revolution?

The Mullahocracy used the Communists to overthrow the Shah of Iran, and then they purged the Communists from power sharing in the the year that followed the Revolution. The Iranian Communists were murdered, imprisoned, disappeared, and exiled...

46 Pope Insouciance IV  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:28:55pm

Jemima,

It wasn't as bad as it could have been. Bollinger could have gotten down on his knees and given Shorty a Lewinski.

He got a "redeem anytime" coupon instead.
Maybe later on tonight, if the Monday Night Football game gets dull.

47 christheprofessor  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:29:00pm

re: #26 RickZ

That's an excellent catch...

48 Mister Ghost  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:29:35pm

OT
Is That A Quaran In Your Pants, Or Do You Really Like Me? And of course, CAIR is involved...

49 judymac  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:29:43pm

re: #26 RickZ

Interesting point made (with pictures) about today's Ahmanutjob 'speech' at Columbia.

If Columbia is not ashamed of the decision... then why did they blacken out the podium and the backdrop?

EXCELLENT POINT!

I noticed right away all the blacked-out logos/names in the background, and realized that at least the marketing dept. of Columbia was thinking ahead, because when this video hits the streets in the heart of Islamicville, they're NOT going to want their name plastered all over this propaganda.

50 gymnast  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:30:01pm

Columbia University, originator of the newest subject matter for an academic field of study, "The Idiot Savant as PhD and Professor".

51 loppyd  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:30:15pm

re: #44 Ben Hur

re: #33 loppyd

Always.

I went away for 2 1/2 weeks and Boston imploded.

Tell me about it. But they did clinch. And I'd like to see them
play the Angels as opposed to the Indians so maybe a wild
card would be good....?

And all this time, I haven't been around and
have been wondering what kind of smack was being thrown
down in my absence.

Hope you went somewhere fun!

52 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:31:02pm
53 purplemonkeydishwasher  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:33:00pm

re: #45 Mister Ghost

It's all about Bush. If Bush says the sky is blue, the sky isn't, or shouldn't be blue. If Bush says 2+2=4, then obviously there's a conspiracy to keep it that way.

54 OldLineTexan  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:33:15pm

re: #40 Rednek

lil' Hitler

OldLineTexan

55 polprof  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:33:23pm

re: #41 observer

Absolutely right. It is easy to imagine the future historian writing about how Ahmad's positive reception at Columbia led him to what one hopes is the misjudgment that the US is after all a "weak horse" that will give in when pressed, thus emboldening him to pursue dangerous policies the more vigorously.

56 KSK  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:33:35pm

For a moment I had a vision... Dinner Jacket had something around his neck and someone raised a cell phone to film it...

Ooops... wrong dictator.

For now

57 Little ol Me  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:34:15pm

I think it's true that they have no homosexuals in Iran, Of course he didn't say why...they are executed.

58 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:34:47pm

re: #41 observer

I was thinking of Japan.
The diplomacy was going on. All was sunshine, unicorns, and bunny rabbits.
Then they bombed the shit out of Pearl.

I

59 PeaceAtAllCosts  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:35:07pm

Such absolute scum and depravity.

I am speaking of course of Columbia University's administration and a fair amount of it's student body.

In some ways I can't fault the little Hitler on his hatred of our country. He feels the same contempt for all Americans as I feel for the leftest useful idiots who clapped for his sickening tripe.

May Allah strike this ugly man down in a painful death.

Upbeat post huh?

60 runrabbitrun  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:35:53pm

What a dark day in our city's history.

We can never articulate or quantify the visceral horror of losing our citizens on 9-11. But today we - NYC and the country - lost something else this afternoon, something that is equally real and lasting.

I agree with John Bolton. This will not just 'go away'; this will affect us, personally, nationally, and politically, for a very long time. Seeing those hopelessly indoctrinated children applauding a murderous dictator in the city of my birth: sorry if it's a downer, but I feel like Frodo "I am wounded, wounded; it will never really heal".

:-(

61 ratherdashing  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:36:31pm

Columbia's World Leadership Forum photos. A quick Google search.

62 jcm  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:38:03pm

I would love to return to Iran....
Once the Mad Mullahs are history.

63 RaiderDan  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:38:29pm
Columbia dean John Coatsworth walks over and shakes Ahmadinejad’s hand, smiling.

``Remember, Mahmoud, to spare me, as I can give you a list of the Jewish professors and students on campus. We have a deal, right?''

Blood on this man's hands. If he had any honor, he would have clasped them behind his back. That'll be a screenshot to capture for future fundraising letters, efforts to ``black out'' Columbia's association notwithstanding....

64 code red 21  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:40:15pm

re: #27 jemima

How do you know he didn't?

65 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:43:17pm

re: #60 runrabbitrun

If I was a NYC resident, I would actively be looking to move.
Find another job somewhere else.
Especially if I had kids. NYC is the capital of the free world. As such it is target number 1.
I am not a coward, and I will fight them to my death if need be.
But I would be damned if I would sit there and be a target because half the country decides there is not threat to us from these islamo-fascists and I end up being sacrificed to prove how foolish they are.

66 darkster2400  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:44:10pm

absolutely revolting and disgusting - I need industrial strength puke remover to get the vomit off my screen and desk.

Those shits students and staff at Columbia should be completely ashamed.

How the hell can that asshole Dean talk about the University's commitment to free expression when they don't allow ROTC and let the Minuteman guy get chased off the same stage?

I have a graduate degree, but since it is not from Columbia, I guess I am too stupid to figure all this out.

Thinking of starting a "Columbia Sucks Dictators" line of clothing. Also, the nickname for their sports teams should be changed to the "Appeasers".

67 purplemonkeydishwasher  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:44:20pm

So did he go to Ground Zero?

68 OldLineTexan  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:45:04pm

re: #15 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

This is why I will refuse to pay tuition for my childred should they ever be accepted at Columbia.

Moonbattery is present at most college campuses of any size. If the media reports are any indication, it has only gotten worse since my good old days. The student must be capable of sustained critical thinking before going to class in order to survive, and/or the classes containing moonbattery must be a small portion of the student's curriculum.

Moonbattery is reduced in the hard sciences and engineering, as there is little place for it in the world of facts. However, as a male of the species (retired), I must point out there are many fewer babes. Male students will naturally pursue the female students into whatever classes they choose.

Taking the above into account, one must therefore take the most care in teaching critical thinking to boys*, OR one must encourage girls to enter science and engineering in order to reduce the chances of moonbattery.

Mothers, don't let your daughters take Liberal Arts.

OldLineTexan
*Teaching critical thinking to boys under 18 is like teaching a pig to sing.

69 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:47:59pm

Prediction: The only thing that will bother the "progressives" will be the "Iran: Certified 100% Homo-Free" bit. And even that they'll manage to rationalize away... "well, it's a different culture, who are we to judge, and besides, Bush is worse."

70 wolfgang_bwl  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:49:13pm

Forget it all - this is the MUST-SEE:

There are no gay people in Iran:

I wonder what these two would say about this statement...

[Link: isna.ir...]

71 shiek al beif salami  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:49:15pm

IdiAminajob

72 rtheyserius  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:49:39pm

Just got through watching the whole thing.

Typical bullshitter, Ahmadinejad.

I can't believe Bush actually said, "I guess it’s OK with me."

73 hous bin pharteen  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:50:05pm

re: #68 OldLineTexan

You got that right.

Economics, meteorology, art history, psychology.
It does not matter. Any class is subject to the political indoctrination of the professor.
Except ROTC.
Professors hate buzz cuts.
(But chicks dig em!)

74 Occasional Reader  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:55:30pm

Slightly surreal, the bit were 'jein follows his "there are no homos in Iran" remark with "I don't know who told you we did".

Okay, who was it? 'Fess up, y'all. Who's been spreading those "Iran is a gay party palace" rumors?

75 runrabbitrun  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:55:30pm

re: #65 hous bin pharteen

Thank the heavens, Mr rabbit and I left NYC and our jobs there (where living in the debased culture of midtown for 10 years took 20 years off my life) for a sleepy town in NJ about 6 years ago.

But I have kids and grandkids still living in Brooklyn, another of our kids and her family in Long Island. I'd LOVE for ALL of us to move to big sky country, red-state country asap; I'm more than ready to become a survivalist.

76 Stuck-in-CA  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 1:58:59pm

Just heard that some Columbia alumnus is going to tear their diploma up on Hannity & Colmes tonight. An empty gesture...but at least a gesture.

77 wanumba  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:06:55pm

John Coatsworth, the little Quisling.
Who does not of course suspect that Ahmedinejad has probably used this as an opportunity to personally enter the GPS coordinates of Columbia so as to better calibrate Iran's targeting for the nuke that is planned for NYC.

78 Richard Romano  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:08:40pm

Sigh.

79 gringo  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:09:08pm

re: #68 OldLineTexan
Teaching critical thinking to boys under 18 is like teaching a pig to sing.
__________________________________________________ ____
It's hard for them to think when all the blood is in the small head!

80 Maui Girl  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:10:42pm

The backdrop and the podium were all blacked out because it makes the president of Iran stand (however short) out. They probably did it at his request.

81 cosmo  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:11:26pm

I've always thought it was a little idiotic for CSPAN to put three separate phone lines up for (R) (D) and (I)...can anyone explain to me why the heck they do that?

BTW: at 1:48 I think he flips someone off...either that or his middle finger is as long as Chris Rock's...

82 El Anti-Idiotario  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:12:17pm

Kudos to Columbia dean John TurnCoatsworth for a fine performance.
/really sickening.

83 cosmo  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:13:27pm

re: #73 hous bin pharteen

It's my understanding that Columbia U. doesn't have an ROTC

/completely shocked

84 Stuck-in-CA  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:13:52pm

These kids at Columbia (and so many like them) remind me of this scene in Independence Day... it's 1 minute 57 seconds into the video

85 Stuck-in-CA  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:14:46pm

re: #78 Richard Romano

you aren't my cousin Richard R from New Jersey are you?

86 edy  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:15:45pm

the reaction of the students shows that the jewish civil rights groups especially the adl, have been ineffective in teaching the lessons of the holocaust-there seemed to be an anti-israel bias permeating the student body--perhaps all that arab money is getting to their hearts--this is a turning point for the status of the jews in this country. the most shocking thing was the applause and the handshaking nonsense of coatsworth.
this was a hate the jews and israel forum

87 Maui Girl  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:19:17pm

re: #72 rtheyserius


Bush should have said "Mahmoud who?, Columbia what?" Oh, yea, that little shit from Iran? He's back in town?"

88 leepro  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:24:30pm

re: #26 RickZ

Interesting point made (with pictures) about today's Ahmanutjob 'speech' at Columbia.

If Columbia is not ashamed of the decision... then why did they blacken out the podium and the backdrop?

Yeah! I noticed that, too. I don't, for one second, believe that we can change Bollinger, but I think HOPE a few eyes were opened.

89 leepro  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:28:55pm

re: #39 Ward Cleaver

re: #29 Ben Hur

I heard a quick answer from a Columbia student on the radio news this morning on why she was going to hear him speak.

"Because, I like, wanna hear what he has to say."

*Sigh*

Brainiac.

I wonder why she wasn't in the running for Miss Universe? She qualifies.

/snarc

90 Cygnus  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:32:35pm

re: #21 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #17 FrogMarch

Ahmadinejad left out his anti-Israel screed. How odd. I'll bet the anti-Israel leftists in the audience wanted to hear that.

He's saving it for the UN.

Or Ground Zero.

Let's send him a lovely Honey Ham.

91 FlyingTigress  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 2:55:50pm

re: #70 wolfgang_bwl

Forget it all - this is the MUST-SEE:

There are no gay people in Iran:
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Could you all imagine what the reaction in Iran would be for the Islamic equivalent of "The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence"?

92 AirForceWife  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 3:04:16pm

#72 rtheyserius 9/24/07 1:49:39 pm reply quote report 0

Just got through watching the whole thing.

Typical bullshitter, Ahmadinejad.

I can't believe Bush actually said, "I guess it’s OK with me."

So very Presidential. He has set the bar so high. I just love how some of the Republicans running for President in the primaries are criticized for a not being presidential enough when this has been the caliber of leadership we've had for almost 7 years.

93 hsmomof2  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 3:05:39pm

re: #68 OldLineTexan

That's part of why we home school :-). And it's working...

One day during history we were studying the beginnings of communism. I was explaining to my 11 year old son that communist governments basically take away the money earned by the hard working people then use it to buy equal food, housing and medical care for everyone, including the people who don't work, or don't work very hard. He got that "wait a minute, I need to process this" look on his face, then said, (in all seriousness) "so, Democrats are Communists?" ...bright boy, that one!

94 Trumpeter  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 3:08:48pm

The difference since the 1968 is that the teachers also are crazy.

95 AirForceWife  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 3:19:43pm

#36 nevergiveup 9/24/07 1:26:05 pm reply quote report

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Strategically I think the little rat bastard may have a point. Now follow me on this. The next illegal immigration bill that comes up for a fight--we just oppose it because ,well, there are no illegal immigrants! N o illegal immigrants; Therefore, no need for a bill. The liberals have to go along.

That's pretty much what we do anyways. There are no illegals in our country. Just a lot of undocumented workers. Poor people have lost their SS cards or something. There is no border problem. The U.S., Mexico, and Central America are all one big country now because we can just will it so.

96 Seattle Rep  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 3:37:44pm

I can't believe it. He's wearing a different jacket. I guess the little dictator jacket store must have sold the rest of their stuff to Kim Jong Il.

97 hsmomof2  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 3:39:09pm

re: #92 AirForceWife

Sorry, but I'd probably have said about the same. I don't have a problem with Ahmanutjob speaking at our universities or press clubs. How else will our young-heads-full-of-mush ever learn to think for themselves if they aren't provided the opportunity to hear it for themselves? And what better opportunity to see and hear first hand what this man is truly all about? We constantly say how slanted and dishonest our news media is, why not allow people the opportunity to see for themselves? Let him talk, and let us listen and judge for ourselves.

I frequently hear from fellow home schoolers that they won't use a certain book or curriculum because it talks about something they don't believe in or it contains material they find offensive. I can't help but think that they are squandering an opportunity to teach their children how to think independently and winnow out the truth for their own selves.

98 AirForceWife  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 4:14:56pm

#97 hsmomof2 9/24/07 3:39:09 pm 0

re: #92 AirForceWife

Sorry, but I'd probably have said about the same. I don't have a problem with Ahmanutjob speaking at our universities or press clubs. How else will our young-heads-full-of-mush ever learn to think for themselves if they aren't provided the opportunity to hear it for themselves? And what better opportunity to see and hear first hand what this man is truly all about? We constantly say how slanted and dishonest our news media is, why not allow people the opportunity to see for themselves? Let him talk, and let us listen and judge for ourselves.

I frequently hear from fellow home schoolers that they won't use a certain book or curriculum because it talks about something they don't believe in or it contains material they find offensive. I can't help but think that they are squandering an opportunity to teach their children how to think independently and winnow out the truth for their own selves.

There are a million things he could have said that would have shown a sign of strong leadership. I'm not saying he should have condemned Columbia for allowing him to speak but he could have approached the subject from a different angle than "I guess it's okay with me". He could have pointed out that no amount of dialog is going to force Ahmedinejad to stop building his nuclear program and all that will come of his speech is to convince more people that the Iranian regime is not a threat to western civilization.

Maybe he could have taken the opportunity to stand up for Israel and say something to the effect that we are in a world struggle between western civilization and radical Islam and Israel is interlinked in that struggle and therefore any threat to Israel is a threat to all western nations and one we won't back down from. Heck, I've been reading arguments off and on all day made here at LGF that are far more compelling than anything Pres. Bush has said about this subject. Is the ability to express powerful ideas that resonate with people and that don't come off as scripted really too much to ask for in a President? Is it really too much to ask for that our President be frank rather than worried about who he might offend? If we are to win this world struggle, we're going to have to start offending some people.

99 hsmomof2  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 4:55:27pm

re: #98 AirForceWife

I'm guessing that we won't agree here :-) but appreciate the points you made and think them worthy of a reply. First, I don't know exactly what question the President was responding to but I'm guessing it was something like "What do you think of Ahmanutjob being invited to speak at Columbia?" His answer (more fully given here) was “This is a place of high learning and if the president (of Columbia) thinks it’s a good idea to have the leader from Iran come and talk to the students as an educational experience, I guess it’s OK with me.” I took it to mean that he's saying "I'm the president of the country, not the president of the university. It's supposed to be a place of higher learning, if the president of that university wants to show his true colors and those of his school, let him, it's not my place to stop him." He is, after after all the president of a country that exists on free speech.

While I agree with the comments you suggested he could have said, (and believe he has said similar remarks on other occassions) I don't think they would have answered the question he was being asked...which would just give David Letterman more material than he really needs.

100 AirForceWife  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 5:09:16pm

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re: #98 AirForceWife

I'm guessing that we won't agree here :-) but appreciate the points you made and think them worthy of a reply. First, I don't know exactly what question the President was responding to but I'm guessing it was something like "What do you think of Ahmanutjob being invited to speak at Columbia?" His answer (more fully given here) was “This is a place of high learning and if the president (of Columbia) thinks it’s a good idea to have the leader from Iran come and talk to the students as an educational experience, I guess it’s OK with me.” I took it to mean that he's saying "I'm the president of the country, not the president of the university. It's supposed to be a place of higher learning, if the president of that university wants to show his true colors and those of his school, let him, it's not my place to stop him." He is, after after all the president of a country that exists on free speech.

While I agree with the comments you suggested he could have said, (and believe he has said similar remarks on other occassions) I don't think they would have answered the question he was being asked...which would just give David Letterman more material than he really needs.

They would have answered the question asked of him and a strong leader does not take into account what comedians like David Letterman choose to use for their material. The "I guess it's okay with me" line will give the comedians more material than they really need and those kinds of comedians will find a way to poke fun of the President no matter what they say. President Reagan was the strongest leader of our time and there was no shortage of material there for the comedians and I don't think President Reagan chose his words based on that fact. He had unwavering principles and people respect that even when they disagree or poke fun of the delivery.

101 pocomoco  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 5:24:48pm

”Columbia Students Applaud and Cheer Ahmadinejad”

The fact that some students cheered Ahmadinejad speaks volumes of what the American primary school system has done in indoctrinating our children with liberal propaganda instead of teaching them the three R’s.

The indoctrination clearly shows that the cheering students are incapable of thinking for themselves, because if they did they would realize that, given the chance, Ahmadinejad would behead the lot of them. Let’s see them cheer then.

102 hsmomof2  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 5:49:00pm

re: #100 AirForceWife

Wow. Um, the David Letterman thought was mine, and pretty much an afterthought to try to lighten the mood. Sorry. I am certain that the President couldn't care less about what anyone says about him or his choice of words. It doesn't matter what the man says, someone is going to be offended or amused, so he speaks his mind. That you are offended that he chose to actually answer the question he was asked, rather than make a speech about something else just kind of proves my point.

103 zplot  Mon, Sep 24, 2007 7:15:47pm

I especially love how this guy yapped about freedom of speech, then avoided any questions. The speech could have been cut a few minutes shorter to allow for that. Iranian universities don't tolerate opposition to this lunatic, so it's pretty clear that Ahmadinejad just wouldn't have been able to handle it.

104 Boazhorribilis  Tue, Sep 25, 2007 12:40:45am

Invitation to Iran: he is looking for future human shields in case the U.S. decides to take out his nuke toys. And those who will take him up on the invite are just what the doctor ordered for the occasion. Have a safe trip!


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