This guy is disgusting

I question both their sanity and patriotism.

Relax.

I'm sure those were just the Post-Colonial Women's Lit minors.

The President is reciting verses of the Holy Koran in Arabic.

Kill Jews/American troops/proclaim jihad = Good

Advocate enforcing immigration laws = bad

Columbia Student thinking...

Your American Higher Education system at work...*sigh*

When asked what they are majoring in, one student replied "Political Science".

When asked to elaborate, he said "I would like to become a Fascist Leftist Dictator like my heroes Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and Hugo Chavez".

Why do people who adore America's enemies stay in America? They can't be happy here. Why not go someplace where you will be happy?

Brace yourselves, Lizardia.

I believe this is the beginning of something big and bad.

I'm beginning to think the WoT is not going to be fought with nukes, or by acts of foreign-sponsored terrorism, but will be a civil war, fought on our own soil, between the enemies of civilization and those who want to preserve it.

Get ready. The times ahead are going to be interesting.

And just for some context, quite a few of the students in the audience were not at all happy with Bollinger’s speech. Here they applaud Ahmadinejad when he blasts Bollinger back:

You get extra credit in Columbia's ME studies dept. if you applaud Jew-hating islamo-Nazis.

I'm not sure why anyone would be surprised at the reactions of these students. They have been indoctrinated since Kindergarten practically to believe what they do. They really get most of their ideas from their professors, who in my opinion are nothing more than American hating socialist/communists.Before anyone says anything ,all Professors are not bad. Just 99.9%.

re: #4 Ben Hur

The President is reciting verses of the Holy Koran in Arabic.

You can bet your life that if a Western speaker tried to recite something from the Torah or the Christian Bible, the mic would be shut down and the goons with Tazers would be all over him.

If Ann Coulter were the speaker (never happen at Columbia, unless pie-throwing or tazering were planned...but just suppose) and Bollinger were to speak highly of her in the introduction, the students would hiss and boo.

#7 ArcherB

They don't want to leave. They want to stay here, in order to fight us and impose their will on us. They want to get power over us, and make America over into their own Utopian vision.

Must...not...dropkick...keyboard...
ARRRGH!

Most of the liberals I know think Dinnerjacket is truly an evil thug. They may not be willing to sanction a spanking yet, but they do NOT believe what he says.

It is shocking how many do believe this idiot.

Still my favorite line:

I am muslim, I cannot lie (*wink wink).

Simpletons. They were applauding Aminijihad because he was sticking it to the man.

Boy, i hope they take up his invitation to go visit Iran and decide to stay over there.

These children are our future.

Those clapping for Dinnerjacket are lucky I wasn't there. POS moonbats.

What and incredble d-bag Bollinger is! He dignifies a despot with an invitation to speak, than calls him names in his introduction, and gets slammed for being uncivil. He couldn't have messed it up more if tried.

Are they holding Islamo-fascist awareness week festivities at Columbia?

Some of Bollinger's opening remarks (first time I'm listening to them) are more forceful than I would have expected. Particularly his references to "know thine enemy", and dropping of the word "evil". Plus the "petty and cruel dictator", of course.

Yet he then completely muddles the idea of "free speech" as somehow requiring Columbia to host this monster.

re: #19 Jeff_McAwesome

These children are our future.

God, help us. Literally.

re: #19 Jeff_McAwesome

These children are our future.

Home schooling! Even for college!
/dreaming

They love him for "Stickin it to the man."

Some of them will outgrow it.

The ones who won't are the ones who will stay in University for the rest of their lives, call themselves "intellectuals" and run their universities as if they were independent countries- just without the real-world responsibilities or consequences.

re: #21 Blastforth

What and incredble d-bag Bollinger is! He dignifies a despot with an invitation to speak, than calls him names in his introduction, and gets slammed for being uncivil. He couldn't have messed it up more if tried.

I disagree. Dinnerjacket shouldn't have been invited at all, but since he was, Bollinger gave him the introduction he deserved. Of course, the most fitting way to thank MadmanDinejad after his speech would have been to arrest him.

re: #19 Jeff_McAwesome

These children are (a small subset of) our future.

Fixed that for you. Not every college student is a moonbat.

OldLineTexan

Shameful. Depressing. What is there to even say about this? I don't believe we have sunk this low. Oh wait, we have.

re: #11 jonturner

re: #4 Ben Hur

The President is reciting verses of the Holy Koran in Arabic.

You can bet your life that if a Western speaker tried to recite something from the Torah or the Christian Bible, the mic would be shut down and the goons with Tazers would be all over him.

Don't tase me, bro!

Koskidz detect the hand of Rove...
Columbia U. president calls AhmadiNejad "petty and cruel" at campus speech,sounded like a setup!

After I listened to the President Lee Bollinger introduce him with mass insults I understood why AhmadiNejad was allowed to speak and why Bush didn't mind. It was a Bushite setup! AhmadiNejad sounded ridiculous to me and that had to be the obvious intention of President Bollinger.

re: #18 stoker

Boy, i hope they take up his invitation to go visit Iran and decide to stay over there.

Can't wait for the videos of Bollinger's delegates making anti-American statements as they take up their positions as human shields.

re: #28 OldLineTexan

Being a college student myself, I am aware of that.

re: #24 jonturner

re: #19 Jeff_McAwesome

These children are our future.

God, help us. Literally.

None of my five kids are like that. Of course, none of them are at Columbia, which may be why.

OldLineTexan

Koskidz say 'It was a setup!"

A great darkness is creeping across the land. Dim bulbs are reaching out to embrace it.

Bollinger got owned. What a hare brained thing to do.

The fact of the matter is that we don't invite someone in to speak and bash them with a diatribe before the speech has even begun in this country either.

Apparently Bollinger thought he could have it both ways. Invite this sh*tweasel here to propagandize from an elevated platform but somehow appease angry Americans by launching a diatribe to introduce the speaker. This simply compounded the error, inviting Ahmanutjob to assume the role of magnanimous victim.

Nice self ownage you utter ahole. Columbia (Genocide Tech) should be so proud of both of their idiots today.

re: #33 Jeff_McAwesome

re: #28 OldLineTexan

Being a college student myself, I am aware of that.

Excellent. Why so glum, then? That's for us old farts.

OldLineTexan

I thought I saw the ‘missing 12 imam’ sitting in the back row, no?

Tomorrow, when he speaks at the UN and everyone stares in rapture, not blinking for 27 minutes – will someone check Pelosi’s eyes?

I’d be curious to know...

The blacking out of the Columbia University background should be remedied by someone who knows how to photoshop.

re: #27 insanity police

Well the problem as I see it is Bollinger unwittingly maximized the PR/propaganda value of this whole debacle for shorty, home and abroad.

Now I think this was a great thing that he spoke at Columbia, mostly due to Bollingers opening comments (WOW! Bravo!), because I think this will show many people on the left just what the situation within an Islamic country really is, and that we have to fight the human rights travesty that is inevitable in an Islamic dominated country (which also leads to terrorism against the west as Islamists they think it is their duty to fight kufr). I think this showing today will sway many on the left to see what is really going on past the "blame America first' mindset.

Our only hope is that these kids will either be to stoned or self-absorbed to breed.

KOS Kid want Anarchy now. Now I tells ya.

The Time for Radical Change is NOW

The time for demanding radical change and serious guts from our politicians is now. Small-scale gains and trading out Republicans for Democrats on a case-by-case basis, election by election, isn't even close to enough. We need major, serious change--and quickly. We need the current crop of Democrats to stand up and fight; we can't wait another ten years.

Otherwise, the long-term planning required of government will be superfluous: the painful changes that are demanded of us now, will be forced upon us tomorrow or else we, as a democratic nation, will fall into the dustbin of history. Either way, it won't be pretty.

Your right I saw your convention and it was not pretty.

re: #35 NJDhockeyfan

Good lord, man, it's Columbia (1+ / 0-)
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What in that institution's background convinced you that the reception for a Muslim would be polite?

First comment.

They really do just exchange "Muslim" in the the Jewish Narrative everywhere they can, don't they?

Bollinger's faux bravery is directly related to the amount of funding the alumni association would have withheld. But it would be nice for George Bush to stand before the U.N. and give similar words about the worth of that POS that sits on the East River. Take all the time you need George to list the grievances one by one.

As far as Ahmadinejihad's speech. I think what was missing was Natalie being allowed to chunk a heavy cigarette lighter, rock, or rotten egg right at little man's head with all the force a 47yr old could muster. That way, nothing gets lost in translation.

re: #23 Occasional Reader

Some of Bollinger's opening remarks (first time I'm listening to them) are more forceful than I would have expected. Particularly his references to "know thine enemy", and dropping of the word "evil". Plus the "petty and cruel dictator", of course.

Yet he then completely muddles the idea of "free speech" as somehow requiring Columbia to host this monster.

Bollinger's remarks just make Ahmadinejad look good to American Muslims and the Left. Poor little Ahmadinejad was invited to speak at Columbia and he was greeted with insults and accusations. And all he wanted was to spread his message of brotherhood, love, and Death to Israel!

re: #2 JammieWearingFool

I question both their sanity and patriotism.

Actually there is a huge school of thought on American campuses that equate patriotism with disease. America bashing is tres chick

Christopher Hitchens made an interesting case for trying Henry Kissinger for war crimes/human rights abuses. It's reached a point where Kissinger has to advoid certain european countries for fear of being indicted by some prosecutor.

Why can't we do the same with Ahmedinijhad?

re: #21 Blastforth

I agree completely with your comment. Bollinger presumed to be America's "champion" and ended up embarassing the US twice in one day.

I mean, David Project has rooms full of Jewish professors screaming at their Muslims students, "How many babies have you killed?!?"

The moral and intellectual bankruptcy of today's major universities is truly unbelievable!

I'm reposting from the bottom of the last thread.

Okay, just got back from Columbia. Anyone who says that this was not a good platform for the Iranians is wrong.

Unfortunately, the anti-Bush looney-left protesters were extremely well organized, rolling out huge banners all around. "Ahmadenihad is bad...Bush is worse/Stop the threat of American nuclear war on Iran." That sort of thing. Most were dressed in their uniform of orange tops and black pants, making them extremely visible and easy to identify. You can see that they have had a lot of practice. In contrast, the anti-Iranian forces just didn't have that kind of organization or penchant for drama. Signs were mostly small, chants were barely heard (except for the group of people to the north side of the 116th St. gates) and there were no leaders pulling it all together to sent out a clear message.

Non-Columbia students or faculty could not enter the university grounds, but, just glancing in through the gates you could easily see the main green. No large group of students were chanting or demonstrating in any fashion that could be discerned from less than 150 feet away. In fact, most of the Columbia students who entered past security looked tickled pink to be the center of attention. I didn't see one serious student who seemed to understand the enormity of what was happening. Girls were giggling to each other as they sauntered past showing their picture ID cards. That sort of thing. Which doesn't say much for the current crop of Columbia undergrads. Many looked like spoiled fashionistas sucking on their ubiquitous water bottles.

In general, I was very disappointed with the turnout. Had the Jewish schools, yeshivas and synagogues not organized, I doubt 200 people would have been counted. I didn't see any groups protesting Iranian IEDs, arms, Quds Force, etc. in Iraq, although there were a few individuals holding up signs accusing Iran of killing our soldiers. But high marks go to WoundedWarriors.org for endlessly circling their large truck in front of Columbia by going up and down Broadway for the entire course of the demonstration.

Of course, there were TONS of media. American (Fox), British (BBC), Spanish (Telemundo I think), just to name a few. It'll be interesting to see their variety of viewpoints.

As the Iranian press contingent left Columbia, they waved and blew sarcastic kisses at the anti-Iranian protestors saying "We love you." They were extremely pleased, or at least gave the appearance of being extremely pleased.

That was probably the Shiite branch of the MSA applauding. (I'm sure they were all invited)

I generally don't hate, but I really really hate these liberals applauding this animal.

I hate their ignorance and it's really too bad they cannot be deported to Iran, just so we can have the pleasure of them begging to come home to the evil America.

re: #38 OldLineTexan

Because these people are so easily persuaded by his lies. That they take the theory of 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' to such extremes is mind boggling. This man is directly responsible for hundreds of American's deaths, and yet he is treated better than Ann Coulter.

If any member of Lizard Nation is in a position where you interview people for jobs, I would ask that you carefully look at any Columbia graduates with a skepitcal eye. Should you have the opportunity to interview them, try and find out how they feel about the events of this day. Be careful how you approach it during the interview process. But if they were in favor of dinnerjackass appearing, I would not hire them. Because if they have a values system that favores dinnerjackass, I would not consider them acceptable for employment. But be careful how you handle it. You don't want to be sued.

At least he didn't throw out the first ball at Yankee Stadium.

re: #41 Blastforth

re: #27 insanity police

Well the problem as I see it is Bollinger unwittingly maximized the PR/propaganda value of this whole debacle for shorty, home and abroad.

It definately is gonna give it more attention, but at least it wasn't a complete love fest.

re: #21 Blastforth

I actually disagree with you. While I still maintain that Achmadinejad should not have been given a forum because it tends to lend legitimacy to this tyrant, I was impressed with the way Bollinger defended his own positions and called Achmadinejad to account for his words and actions.

re: #47 ibrodsky

Exactly! Ahmadinejad becomes the more mannered.

#44 rab3

Interesting all these calls for "change now!" are suddenly coming out, to coincide with Ahmadenijad's visit.

I'm beginning to wonder if he's ever going to leave. . .

Why Iran has no gays.

Evidently, its A-OK with those enlightened men and women of Columbia. Must have something to do with "nuance."

Ahmadinejad denies having homosexuals in Iran.
Ahmadinejad denies the Holocaust.

Leftists and Kos Kiddies love Ahmadinejad.

My question is: Why do lefties hate Gays and Jews? !

Does anyone else here get the sense that our "best and brightest" are going into an educational wasteland when they go to the Ivy League? They learn the rhetoric of relativism but not much else, IMO.

I am glad that this country is able to import engineering talent - yes, we produce fine engineers, but not enough of them, and not out of schools like Columbia.

If the Dollar keeps sliding, that ability to import engineers might get impinged, and I don't see our elite institutions giving a damn about teaching people hard science skills, instead deferring to more "masturbative" subjects like rhetoric and cultural history.

Having watched the entirety of the opening remarks, I'll give Bollinger a half-credit.

Here's the thing; those same remarks, with a few edits, would have been perfect for a public statement explaining why Columbia was NOT inviting Ahmadinejad.

Amadjihadist tasered
Report: Ahmadinejad Tasered at Columbia University
by Scott Ott

(2007-09-24) — Columbia University promised a full investigation into charges of police brutality after today’s reported Tasering of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who had come to the Ivy League school to give the annual Adolph Hitler Memorial Peace and Tolerance Lecture.

Like a similar incident at the University of Florida last week, the stun-gun assault by police followed a lengthy anti-American rant by the alleged victim, and was immediately condemned by civil rights advocates.

According to eyewitnesses, Mr. Ahmadinejad was dragged from the room shouting: “Do not make to Tase myself, slang brother man.”

It was not immediately known whether the victim was legitimately attempting to exercise his freedom of speech or if, as one unnamed witness said, “he’s little more than a publicity hound and prankster who will do anything to get news coverage.”

Bollinger undressed the man and revealed him as he really is and the Left didn't take to kindly to that. Awww illusions shattered by an academic of all people.
And the secret in doing this effectively is to stay clear of the Israel issue because that's who Ahmadinejad plays to - the latent anti Semitism that he knows and understands exists in every society whether their are Jews or no Jews. It just is the way it is. But there are so many more arguments to make supporting the demise of this tyrant and those are what Bollinger addressed. Bahai, homosexuals, women and freedom of the most basic sort are all denied in Iran and that's what the argument and debate must be about and if that's what happens, we will win the day. The Left hates Israel, dislikes or mistrusts Jews and have bought into the Palestinian narrative and now the far left have led many of the mainstream Left to a sort of benign fashionable anti semitism. Stay clear of the Israel issue and deny Ahmadinejad the only issue he can use to win. Take it away from him and he's helpless and exposed and looks finally like the ignorant person he is. As everyone can see, the moment he said "we don't have homosexuals in Iran like you have here in America" he was over. The gay community and the left who so wants to be accepted by everyone immediately had to dismiss him. That moment was the beginning of the end for Mahmoud the mouth.

re: #63 Cicero05

Why Iran has no gays.

Evidently, its A-OK with those enlightened men and women of Columbia. Must have something to do with "nuance."

There's at least one.

I wonder if it would scare the parents of these students if say... Billy Graham were to speak with them next week.

re: #37 DaMav

Apparently Bollinger thought he could have it both ways.

Precisely.

These people think they are clever. They also think we are stupid.

#61 cont. This kind of "debate" was done in history before another darkness that crept very far.

re: #58 chinesearithmetic

At least he didn't throw out the first ball at Yankee Stadium.

The days not over yet
I heard Bloomberg and dinnerjacket are going out clubbing after dinner tonight

re: #26 Ben Hur

they love him for sticking it IN a man, perhaps... no?

re: #61 Roger

since when has the left cared about manners?

Mahmoud's buddy Chavez is upset with all the attention the dwarf is getting, so he decided to turn back time today.

Things didn't turn out well.

President Hugo Chavez postponed a plan to put Venezuela's clocks back half an hour on Monday after his attempt to rush through the change in record time caused widespread confusion.

Socialists and widespread confusion: Perfect together.

How sickening are the occupants of our universities.

If Bollinger really believed that Ahmadinejad lacked the intellectual courage to respond to him, then he makes the point of everyone who was against inviting Ahmadinejad: it was nothing but a propaganda stunt for Ahmadinejad.

BTW, Hitler also claimed that Germany did not intend on attacking anyone. Hitler claimed all along that Poland was oppressing German citizens and then the Nazis staged an attack by Poles (Germans dressed in Polish uniforms) on a German radio station.

Lets not forget, college students tend to be pretty ignorant, naive and misinformed

Their in their late teens and early 20s, not an age known for it's astuteness in political opinions

Most of these idiots will come around

Maybe

Jew and Christian haters rally.

re: #56 Jeff_McAwesome

re: #38 OldLineTexan

Because these people are so easily persuaded by his lies. That they take the theory of 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' to such extremes is mind boggling. This man is directly responsible for hundreds of American's deaths, and yet he is treated better than Ann Coulter.

But they don't represent you, right?
Do you think they represent everyone else your age?
If yes, what is your evidence?
If no, why is there no hope?

In the World, you have to get out of bed every day, put on the Big Boy pants, and deal with the situation at hand. You can make a difference somewhere.

OldLineTexan

I still have not heard the first question Ahmadinejihad should have been asked from the audience.

"President Ahmadinejad, what was your role in the taking of American hostages and keeping them captive during the period of 1979 - 1981?"

re: #77 JammieWearingFool

Par for the course for the man who attempted to ban Santa Claus. (No, really.)

As an American, I am outraged that such an evil man was allowed to speak to our students at a prestigious university. In retrospect, the reality of today's events show me that his musings were no worse than what the students are subjected to every day from their professors in their classes.

re: #85 GeeWiz

As an American, I am outraged that such an evil man was allowed to speak to our students at a prestigious university. In retrospect, the reality of today's events show me that his musings were no worse than what the students are subjected to every day from their professors in their classes.

True, but Ahmadinejad actually has people murdered, including U.S. troops. The lefty morons teaching the classroom can't claim to do that, even if they wanted to.

re: #83 goodbye_natalie

Yeah, now that you mention it... that WAS a pretty frickkin' glaring omission, wasn't it?

I think his response would have been something like: "Blahblablah let me ask you a question, the Israelis have been holding the Palestinian people hostage for 58 years..."

re: #58 chinesearithmetic

At least he didn't throw out the first ball at Yankee Stadium.

LOL, don't give anyone ideas.

re: #76 bulwrk

You have a point!

I looked up the definition of mannered after posting that and discovered it has a slight different meaning than I thought. The dictionary's definition is more appropriate:

Adj. 1. mannered - having unnatural mannerisms; "brief, mannered and unlifelike idiom"
affected, unnatural - speaking or behaving in an artificial way to make an impression

re: #86 insanity police

Making Dinnerjacket much worse

re: #77 JammieWearingFool

Leave it to a flunkie to think turning back time 1/2 hour is a great idea...

re: #83 goodbye_natalie

I still have not heard the first question Ahmadinejihad should have been asked from the audience.

"President Ahmadinejad, what was your role in the taking of American hostages and keeping them captive during the period of 1979 - 1981?"

Was that established for sure yet? I've heard people say he did and did not participate. Dinnerjacket sure looks like the guy in those pictures.

The people applauding him were probably from "Queers for Palestine" or some other fringe nutcase group.

Or that's what I'm hoping, anyway.
BHG

re: #59 insanity police

But in the era the "sound bite" no one back home will see bollinger's belated attempt to have a spine. Only Shorty's rebuke.

Maybe just maybe the left will get a clue of damage this sort of thing does. Despots don't play by our rules.

Why is LGF so slow today. This "chugging" of this website seems to be happening with increasing frequency. What's up?

A prediction"

In the next few weeks, the Left is going to call more and more for "Change now!" and "We can't wait! Bush is destroying the country!" This will be followed by riots, acts of violence, attempts to take over cities and more and more "activism" (sometimes violent) against Jews and Christians. I wouldn't be surprised if some Leftists began converting en masse to Islam.

Rest assured that 99.9% of Columbia students are absolutely disgusted by this thug, and we’re glad he made himself look even more insane. It’s important for people to understand how truly nuts he is.

word.

i hope...

re: #87 Occasional Reader

I think his response would have been something like: "Blahblablah let me ask you a question, the Israelis have been holding the Palestinian people hostage for 58 years..."

I'm sure you are right. But it would have quickly ended his joyous mood at the invite.

re: #94 Blastforth

re: #59 insanity police

But in the era the "sound bite" no one back home will see bollinger's belated attempt to have a spine. Only Shorty's rebuke.

You are dead on. Especially in Iran where nothing bad will get out to the masses. That's why I didn't want him to speak in the first place. Although we know a few jabs got in, which is still a small consolation prize.

To the Columbia student who sent a note to Charles-

Does that really sound like 20-30 people applauding when Ahmadinutjob smacked down Lee Bollinger? Sounded like more than a hundred. I do agree that people need to see up close how nuts he is. But I also worry about the people that, either secretly or openly, agree with this guy.

Too bad this is his only college appearance. I would have liked to see him up close, if he came to Cal. And zombie would have a ball with it.

Welcome to bizarre-o world. It is going to get crazier , before it gets better...if it gets better.
On a brighter note...it is alot easier to buy a gun , now, in Missouri.

I had noticed that some of the applause seemed to start before the 'translation" of the monster's comments was even completed. The thought that the entire audience were Arabs ran across my mind. Maybe that's who was in the back cheering? Would have to have been there to tell.

re: #83 goodbye_natalie

I still have not heard the first question Ahmadinejihad should have been asked from the audience.

"President Ahmadinejad, what was your role in the taking of American hostages and keeping them captive during the period of 1979 - 1981?"

That was Greta Van Sustren's question and it didn't get picked to be asked Now, I'm wondering who selected the questions.

re: #77 JammieWearingFool

Mahmoud's buddy Chavez is upset with all the attention the dwarf is getting, so he decided to turn back time today.

Things didn't turn out well.

President Hugo Chavez postponed a plan to put Venezuela's clocks back half an hour on Monday after his attempt to rush through the change in record time caused widespread confusion.

Socialists and widespread confusion: Perfect together.

ROFLMAO!

A HALF hour!

Why not declare the sun revolves around the earth while you're at it?

like it or not it's about free speech.
[Link: www.law.cornell.edu...]

The note from the Columbia student, if true, makes me feel a little better. But why didn't the boos drown out the clapping for miniHitler?

I hope the FBI is watching the people who clapped.

re: #105 hayseed

Congress shall make no law
Congress shall make no law
Congress shall make no law

Three times just in case you went to Columbia undergrad.

I just found LGF live

Youtube Video

The email that Charles received and posted as an update should be given some consideration. The AP article I read supports what this student (who was in the audience) says stating the students did applaud Bollinger's affront on Nutjob. The student also makes a point to let us know the Nutjob supporters were about 30 (sitting near the camera (which would make their LLL applause sound like more people that it was)) out of 600.

re: #82 OldLineTexan

re: #56 Jeff_McAwesome

re: #38 OldLineTexan

Because these people are so easily persuaded by his lies. That they take the theory of 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend' to such extremes is mind boggling. This man is directly responsible for hundreds of American's deaths, and yet he is treated better than Ann Coulter.

But they don't represent you, right?
Do you think they represent everyone else your age?
If yes, what is your evidence?
If no, why is there no hope?

In the World, you have to get out of bed every day, put on the Big Boy pants, and deal with the situation at hand. You can make a difference somewhere.

OldLineTexan

I didn't say they represent *everyone* who is in college. But they are emblamatic of a resounding majority of fools.

I never said there was no hope, but this generation has a lot of challenges before it. I'm not sure that too many are up to the task. (Except of course for those 160,000 people in Iraq)

re: #105 hayseed

like it or not it's about free speech.
[Link: www.law.cornell.edu...]

Columbia didn't have to give him a forum. If it refused, LIKE IT DID LAST YEAR, then the 1st amendment wouldn't have been violated.

Rest assured that 99.9% of Columbia students are absolutely disgusted by this thug

I find that very hard to believe.

I will say, though, that the applause after Bollinger's scathing opening remarks was pretty strong.

re: #106 insanity police

I hope the FBI is watching the people who clapped.

___
But if Shrillary wins POTUS, she will bring in her own FBI people in the middle of all the investigations ["we need the slots"]

#97 zyganzint

Doesn't matter.

I'm sorry to say this, but it really, really doesn't matter any more, whether 99.9% of Columbia students are disgusted with Ahmadenijad or not. They let him come there. They didn't protest, they didn't shut down the college, they didn't go on strike for the day. They let him come, and they let him be applauded by the 1% of their number, who think he's the new messiah. In short, they let that 1% speak for all of them. They didn't voice their disgust beforehand, they didn't organize any sort of answer to him, or, as far as I can tell, protest their college's policies, so what good is their disgust now? The time to act was before he spoke. Now he's got a political, diplomatic coup, and all the disgust in the world won't change that.

Ahmadenijad shouldn't even be in our country, let alone speaking at a college. Feeling disgusted about doesn't do a damn thing.

re: #114 Le_Patriot

re: #106 insanity police

I hope the FBI is watching the people who clapped.

___
But if Shrillary wins POTUS, she will bring in her own FBI people in the middle of all the investigations ["we need the slots"]

Then arrest them quickly.

he comes to town and trumpets what he says we need to know...and how to think...he styles himself with a easy familiarity and he's patronizing...the reality is he doesnt really know anything about america...was he happy with the last episode of the Sopranos?...whats his take on Notre Dames flat start...he's a fraud and an amusing poser...his days are numbered if he dont get with Tony Romo...an alien...get some Kos cred?...so what...maybe I'm just under reacting...

The one thing Bollinger should have pointed out to blow a hole in Ahmadinejad's support for Palestinians is to point out how the Islamic Republic treats her own Arab population in Kuzestan. Iran gets away with murder regarding the Ahwazi Arabs and no one calls them out on it.

re: #111 Jeff_McAwesome

Jeff, way back in #19 you wrote:

These children are our future.

If I misunderstood you, I apologize.

I don't think these children are the sum total of our future, that's all. God speed in your studies.

OldLineTexan

Charles,

"inviting the moster"

/if that doesn't scream rotatin', nuttin' does!

let the dumb shits expose themselves...maybe more people will figure it out.

jus / sayin

re: #37 DaMav

Bollinger got owned. What a hare brained thing to do.

The fact of the matter is that we don't invite someone in to speak and bash them with a diatribe before the speech has even begun in this country either.

How soon we forget the diatribe prior to Gen. Petraeus's testimony.

Oh wait, he wasn't invited to give testimony, he was 'summoned'. Congress ISN'T in the General's chain of command, contrary to popular belief. Yes, congress approves officer commissions, but those officers are under the command of the President.

Gen. Petraeus's testimony was given as a courtesy to the Armed Services committee.

Ok, I need help from the Lizard Community.

I'm looking at a survey which appears to be near some sort of elevated rail system.

buildings are marked as "Head House"

What the crust is a "Head House" ? (Vlad the Impaler references aside)

So, was this invitation worth it?

/who won the day?

When he referred to the Iranian Constitution, I'm sure the genius students assumed it was the same as the US Constitution.

Rest assured that 99.9% of Columbia students are absolutely disgusted by this thug, and we’re glad he made himself look even more insane.

I'm sure we'll see that reflected in tomorrow's student newspaper.

/not holding my breath

re: #123 buzzsawmonkey

Is Ahmedinejad going to make his coup complete, and be on Letterman tonight?

good one!...for whatever else you're sure dependable...lol!

re: #105 hayseed

Our Constitution is for the whole world. Who knew.

Charles

Regarding the email from the Columbia student ...

I was in the audience today, and it is completely unfair to characterize the students in the audience as all having clapped for him. We didn’t. The applause you heard was from about 20-30 students (in the back, nearest to the cameras) out of an audience of over 600.

It isn't unfair. Those students haplessly gave this guy a soundstage and a stooge audience from which to project his bile to their apparent approval. They let him in. They provided the platform. They promoted the idea of this thing as "open discourse". Then some shills planted in the audience handed him a propaganda coup.

The people of Iran are worse off today for what Columbia students endorsed with their hapless participation in this dog and pony show. The security of the Middle East is worse off. When you hand an absolutist and propagandist a microphone, you can expect such to happen.

These students shouldn't feel victimized - they should feel deserved shame.

They. Were. Duped.

Rest assured that 99.9% of Columbia students are absolutely disgusted by this thug, and we’re glad he made himself look even more insane. It’s important for people to understand how truly nuts he is.

Sorry - I won't rest assured. The caravan has passed. No one wants the opinion of Columbia students anymore - the circus has moved to the next town. Trying to set things right after the fact is itself an unconscious admission of the mistake they made.

Columbia distinguished itself as a fools paradise today. No pity from me if they feel they have been mischaracterised.

Instead of asking for an apology from others, they should be apologizing to the Iranian people - the dictator is more powerful today than he was yesterday.

re: #102 Stuck-in-CA

Not arabs - he speaks Farsi (persian.

Iranian Gays React

re: #86 insanity police

True, but Ahmadinejad actually has people murdered, including U.S. troops. The lefty morons teaching the classroom can't claim to do that, even if they wanted to.

True, not to mention his involvement in the Hostage Crisis. My point was centered around his musings today at Columbia and the dinner earlier. I was hinting about the enablers educating our children whose teachings are not far removed from what we witnessed today from Dr. Strangelove.

re: #126 Killian Bundy

So, was this invitation worth it?

/who won the day?

kind of a draw so far...but I think I can take him next time...

He puts the Dick, in dictator.

BBL.

re: #109 LeftJustAintRight

I just found LGF live

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

That is hilarious.

re: #84 Occasional Reader

re: #77 JammieWearingFool

Par for the course for the man who attempted to ban Santa Claus. (No, really.)

He's coming after breast implants as well. I have to draw a line sometime.

The applause you heard was from about 20-30 students (in the back, nearest to the cameras) out of an audience of over 600. Rest assured that 99.9% of Columbia students are absolutely disgusted by...

It's obvious that math isn't this kids major.

re: #109 LeftJustAintRight

I just found LGF live

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Excellent! Here's LGF live during open registrations:
---> watch short Video of hatchling during a registration

lgf: hoster wit da moster!

re: #137 zulubaby

heh, that is pretty good.

re: #130 Roger

well we are in Iraq. it was a great idea,to bad our president had no clue about Islam. I really love my country,but you can't teach dumb shits about freedom.

re: #102 Stuck-in-CA

I had noticed that some of the applause seemed to start before the 'translation" of the monster's comments was even completed. The thought that the entire audience were Arabs ran across my mind. Maybe that's who was in the back cheering? Would have to have been there to tell.

Except that most Arabs don't speak Farsi, and I doubt that Muslims would applaud recitations from the Koran.

re: #138 JammieWearingFool

He's coming after breast implants as well.

"After" or "over"?

re: #125 LanceKates

What the crust is a "Head House" ? (Vlad the Impaler references aside)

Reading announced that the new depot would include a new trainshed, advertised to be the biggest in the world, fronted on Market by an eight-story headhouse, which would serve as the passenger station and company headquarters for the Reading Railroad.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #137 zulubaby

That is hilarious.

I wish i could say outloud what i post and what i think sometimes

It reminded me of LGF with the guy saying First all the time

re: #143 hayseed

He knew. Franklin Graham 'splained it to him and got banished.

re: #10 nigella

Right you are; and just for grins take note that the figures according to the comment posted here would be around 95%! Must not be a math major.

Semper Fi
Bill

re: #140 Le_Patriot

re: #109 LeftJustAintRight

I just found LGF live

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

Excellent! Here's LGF live during open registrations:
watch short Video of hatchling right after a registration

we’re glad he made himself look even more insane. It’s important for people to understand how truly nuts he is.

Then again, we already knew that, so what was the point?

/today's circus didn't break any new ground that I can see

It’s important for people to understand how truly nuts he is.

Therefor it was completely unnecessary to give him a platform at Columbia.

Well guys, it's not like you had a large number of Columbia students demonstrating against Ahmadenijad's policies. And we're supposed to be impressed that most students who heard him didn't applaud him? Ha! That's a joke. Columbia students for the most part couldn't have cared less. And it was readily apparent to anyone who was there. Professors looked miffed that they were slightly put out by the demonstrators - one professor came sailing across Broadway on his bicycle ignoring everything that was going on around him as though even acknowledging the hoi polloi was beneath him. Students were bored, giggling and uninvolved. If these brave Columbia students really didn't support what Ahmadenijad had to say, they should have made their voices heard. They just couldn't be bothered.

Oh, yeah, Columbia put on a great show demonstrating how much they cared.

/sarc OFF

bollinger says this:

"Frankly and in all candor, Mr. President, I doubt that you will have the intellectual courage to answer these questions. But your avoiding them will have meaning for us."

Wow. Will someone please say that EXACT SAME THING to Hillary next time she uses her talking point nonsense to answer a question. or when she says "I'm not going to dignify that with an answer."

I wonder what President Ronald Reagan would have asked him.

Bollinger was surprisingly great:

[Link: americandigest.org...]

re: #110 ciaospirit

The email that Charles received and posted as an update should be given some consideration. The AP article I read supports what this student (who was in the audience) says stating the students did applaud Bollinger's affront on Nutjob. The student also makes a point to let us know the Nutjob supporters were about 30 (sitting near the camera (which would make their LLL applause sound like more people that it was)) out of 600.

It. Doesn't. Matter.

The US and European press will gloss over the event.

What matters is what Iranians see.

Do you really want to go to war with Iran, or would you prefer that the Iranians have another revolution?

I prefer the latter.

I would think Columbia students would prefer the latter.

I know the Bush Administration prefers the latter.

Yet that is much less likely to occur now that the applause and support for his speech is being beamed into Iranian living rooms.

These students and their instructors are utter dolts and should simply have the character to admit they were had.

re: #154 FrogMarch

Didn't the concluding person say Ahmadinejad answered most of the questions?

re: #147 LeftJustAintRight

re: #137 zulubaby

That is hilarious.

I wish i could say outloud what i post and what i think sometimes

It reminded me of LGF with the guy saying First all the time

LOL! You know that started with a poster whose nic was First!

For real.

It was funny, until it was annoying. Now it's funny again.

He calls for the soon coming of the Shiite mahdi or moslem messiah. No boos or hisses from the audience.
I wonder what kind of welcome a Christian would get praying for the return of Jesus?

tough thread...

I've analyzed Dinnerjackets body language during the "no homosexuals in Iran" part of his speech and have determined that it is a desperate cry for some hunky gay New Yorker to invite him down to the village tonite and show him a good time.

re: #31 Killgore Trout

And rather than take the fact that the dinner jacket sounded insane and ridiculous as a hint, the writer decided it was a Bush set-up?

BDS runs rampant!

Instead of Bollinger, they should have had Sally Field to give the opening remarks. A little tongue-lashing from the Flying Nun about A-jad and his all-male warmongering ways would have reduced him to a soggy Persian rug.

I wish the nerd would wear a necktie with that plastic Iranian suit.

re: #160 Carolyn

come on you know the answer...the would have been crucified. people hate the truth,but love the lies of satan

re: #155 Roger

I wonder what President Ronald Reagan would have asked him.

Nancy and I wondered if we could present a gift to your fledgling nuclear reactor tonight. You don't have to answer right now. The bombing begins in five minutes.

re: #167 ec marm

heh!

re: #125 LanceKates

House at the Rail Head? The house belonging to the Head of something?

Throw out the first ball at Yankee Stadium? Maybe. Also may be invited to the Democratic National Convention as keynote speaker.
(Stand in for Usam bin Laden)

re: #132 karmic_inquisitor

yeah, but I didn't think they would be Iranians applauding them. Most of them here hate him. So maybe Palestinians instead of Arabs?

The fact that Ahmadinejad got any applause for his opening remarks regarding Bollinger's introduction underscores that this murderer should never have been allow to speak there. He'll surely feel he has support in the USA, which of course he does, and now he can use this bit of propaganda to gain additional support around the world, unbelievable!

re: #151 Killian Bundy

we’re glad he made himself look even more insane. It’s important for people to understand how truly nuts he is.

Then again, we already knew that, so what was the point?

/today's circus didn't break any new ground that I can see

thats exactly why I wont be bothered more than I am right now...it is what it is and I think this will eventually go badly for the left...the pot just got stirred again so we'll see...altho I enjoy reading them the returns from Kos are way overrated in importance...there is some merit to having him in the states if for nothing more than having him exposed to people unfamiliar with the situation...the good stuff usually taked awhile so lets be patient and see how it all shakes out...

Where was "don't taze me, bro!" boy when we could use him?

re: #153 Irene NYC

Students were bored, giggling and uninvolved. If these brave Columbia students really didn't support what Ahmadenijad had to say, they should have made their voices heard. They just couldn't be bothered.

Oh, yeah, Columbia put on a great show demonstrating how much they cared.

Ah come on Irene, we got to give these young students a break. There's little room for more protest after the last Bush/Hitler Cheney/Halliburton parade. These people are so focused on hating their own government that it leaves little free time for something meaningful.

re: #168 Roger
Don't take that wrong. I loved the man. But communism was his fight, not islamofascism.

OT: Qatar, Dubai gain control of London Stock Exchange

QATAR has upped its share in London's Stock Exchange to nearly 24 per cent, giving the gulf state and neighbour Dubai a controlling stake of nearly 52 per cent.

Quoting LSE sources, a Qatari newspaper reported the gas-rich Gulf state bought an additional 3 per cent of shares on Friday, a day after it bought a 20 per cent slice of Europe's oldest stock exchange.

The Qatar Investment Authority (QIA), the investment unit of the Qatar government, initially bought a 20.8 per cent stake off two hedge funds.

The US-based Nasdaq, which was the LSE's biggest shareholder with a 31 per cent holding, said last month that it wanted to sell up after a failed hostile takeover attempt.

Neither the Nasdaq nor the German stock exchange could take over the LSE. But now it is in the hand of two Muslim states.

Welcome Sharia banking!

See. USA first. Get it?

re: #176 ec marm

re: #168 Roger
Don't take that wrong. I loved the man. But communism was his fight, not islamofascism.

good point...islamofascism is a new breed of dog...its mind bending decadence can leave you behind in a hurry if you dont pay very close attention...I thank god for the bloggosphere

Why are all these pics of Ahmad in Jihad telling the world he wants to destroy us cropped off? and why doesn't Bollinger have them printed and stapled to his head?

Nice speech though.
/

I am wondering if nutjob's speech,deny the holocaust... no gays live in iran, violated Columbia's hate speech code.

We are supposed to believe this was filmed with home movie cameras with built in microphones? That this accounts for the loudness of the applause of only 20-30 people near the cameras? I don't think so.
I hope no one buys that excuse.

...and even better: LOO WITH NO ONE TO USE IT

BAKERY giants Greggs have installed a Muslims-only toilet at their new Scottish headquarters - despite the fact that no Muslims work there.

Workers at the state-of-the-art factory were shocked when they were given a tour of the building and told a cubicle had been fitted for the use of Muslim employees. The staff said they are baffled at the decision because they are not aware of any Islamic workers at the base in Cambuslang, near Glasgow.

But staff at the new £15million plant labelled the decision "political correctness gone mad". One said: “We were being given a guided tour of the new factory before moving there when they told us that they had a toilet for use only by Muslims.

The Islamic faith has particular rules regarding personal hygiene when going to the toilet, including squatting, washing feet, remaining silent and limited use of toilet paper.

Personally, the most disturbing moment is Ahmadoobiewah starting his "performance" by calling for the quick return of the 12th Imam, the apocalyptic event that he feels he's the designated driver for.

The left gets all jittery when President Bush mentions God in any context. Now this guy is all but calling for a supernatural end of the world in the near future right in front of everyone and there is hardly a mention of it. Man, does no one have ears to hear or eyes to see?

Thank you, Charles, for putting on the reply from the Columbia student. It earned you the first "plus" from me to one of your posts :)

And the Columbia student hit the nail on the head. It's important to see Ahminedijad for what he really is - a crazy tinpot fanatic in charge of a crazy, dysfunctional, but dangerous nation. And what better way to see him than in person? It's better than just taking your word for it.

Way more than 20 or 30 people were clapping after the midget's introduction. I think the line "Columbia students are so open minded their brains have fallen out." is the only way to describe what happened there today.

I am appalled that 570+ Columbia students couldn't compete with 30 nutjob applauders...

Is Charles Manson coming to speak soon? You could debate him too, if you want to waste some more time.

Jim Gilchrist was summarily uninvited to speak at Columbia. That as a result of a few protesting noise makers. What an ironic twist at CU today. Columbia University should be punished for this unbelievable travesty.

Compare Jim with the Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (as described by Bollinger)

Jim Gilchrist founded the multi-ethnic Minuteman Project on Oct. 1, 2004, after years of frustrated efforts trying to get a neglectful U.S. government to simply enforce existing immigration laws.

Jim holds a B.A. in newspaper journalism, a B.S. in business administration, and an M.B.A. in taxation. He is a former newspaper reporter and a retired California CPA (Certified Public Accountant).

Jim is a veteran of the U.S. Marine Corps and recipient of the Purple Heart award for wounds sustained while serving with an infantry unit in Vietnam, 1968 - 1969.

These are the same wacademics that kept insisting it was legitimate to give Ward Churchill a forum to spout his insanity. Where has common sense and moral decency gone?

re: #187 Gordon

see my 178 and 181 foolish one. Take a good look.

re: #187 Gordon

And the Columbia student hit the nail on the head. It's important to see Ahminedijad for what he really is - a crazy tinpot fanatic in charge of a crazy, dysfunctional, but dangerous nation. And what better way to see him than in person? It's better than just taking your word for it.

Huh?

Iran is run by a Mullahtocracy, or are you not willing to take my word for it? The nation that is Iran is ancient and is made up of many people of different ethnicities and religions who would love to get rid of the guy.

Aren't you the one who waltzes in here from time to time and condemns people for lumping "others" together unfairly?

re: #171 Stuck-in-CA

Most but not all. NYC is a big place. 20 or 30 Farsi speaking sympathizers should be easy to locate.

So...Ahmadinnerjacket...steps up to the podium indignant because he was insulted by a some lefty lap dog...and proceeds to scold said lap dog for not having the manners to be welcoming, warm and fuzzy.

Yet when Ahmadinnerjacket is back in his own country, he imprisons, has murdered, rapes and destroys any dissenting voice against his tyranical rule...where are his manners?

The only thing that did not surprise me was to hear the loud clapping by the lefty stooges in the audience who are the willing servants of anybody or anything but sanity. Columbia I can clearly say will never be a consideration as a college option for my children, then again 90% of colleges are off my list including UCLA, USC, Harvard and man other leftist bastions...I will try very hard to educate my kids with the hope that they will ba able to gain entrance into a military academy, West Point or AFA.
barring that there are many Christian based colleges out west.

The applause you heard was from about 20-30 students (in the back, nearest to the cameras) out of an audience of over 600. Rest assured that 99.9% of Columbia students are absolutely disgusted by this thug...

This quote shows how terminally naive both the students and the university administration are. How could they not anticipate that Ahmahdinejad and his supporters in the audience would manipulate the details to their advantage? How absurdly easy will it be for Al-Jazeera and others to edit the speech/applause/pictures to make it look as though the audience APPROVED of and was openly in favor of Ahmahdinejad? And these students will be "shocked" that no one will ever know that they were really "99.9%" disgusted?

Fools.

On the whole, most people realized that him being there was a mistake— because to have rational discourse, parties to the debate have to be, well, rational.

This is priceless. I once heard a speaker say "I don't have to eat crap to know I'm not gonna like it." I guess at Columbia, one has to eat crap to know that he doesn't like it. Did anyone prior to today's performance, not know that the Persian peshgel was irrational? I guess they are so sophisticated at Columbia that it isn't 'til they've been penetrated that know their being raped.

It's good to know that most of the Columbia Students have a good head on their shoulders, at least as far as this thug is concerned.

karmic inquisitor: There are many Iranians who want to throw off Ahminedijad and the mullah theocracy. Unfortunately, they live in a rigged dictatorship - the levers of power are controlled by the crazies. I hope for a day soon when they are thrown out of power - because of their rigged rules and willingness to use violence, I fear that any removal of them from power by other Iranians will have to be violent too.

And no, the U.S. shouldn't do it. If there's one thing that would rally Iranians in patriotism around Ahminedijad and the mullahs, that would be it. And they know it too. That's why they're baiting us - they know a U.S. military strike or invasion is a sure way to hold onto power.

re: #176 ec marm

I didn't. Can't find it at the moment but I believe President Reagan's Diaries show he knew a considerable amount about islamofacism and Iran.

Shaddap, Gordon.

re: #201 Gordon

Horse pucky.

re: #68 buzzsawmonkey

re: #58 chinesearithmetic

At least he didn't throw out the first ball at Yankee Stadium.

No, he got the press and the academy to throw out their own balls.

EXCELLENT!

Why did these students even attend the lecture? They could have boycotted and left him speaking to the "20 to 30 students" who are his fans.

Ahmadinejad: a Borat-inspired mello Hitler.

I wonder if ol' Ahma-whats-it would consider speaking at...um... one of our (Texas) institutions of higher learning? I’m thinking of Texas A&M. I pay to watch. I’d pay a lot to watch. Might even bring back the bonfire.

Hey Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, would it have been better manners if Bollinger’s cya lasted 444 days?

re: #42 TS

I agree with you completely. Having this monster stand up there and lie about his stance on the holocaust, homosexuals, the Jewish state, etc. I think gives a strong and transparent view of who he is. I thought he was evil and disgusting before his speech and he solidified my opinion.

And no, the U.S. shouldn't do it. If there's one thing that would rally Iranians in patriotism around Ahminedijad and the mullahs, that would be it. And they know it too. That's why they're baiting us - they know a U.S. military strike or invasion is a sure way to hold onto power.

My G-d man are you dense. I sincerely hope your family is not dealt the repercussion of your appeasement failure.

re: #21 Blastforth

What and incredble d-bag Bollinger is! He dignifies a despot with an invitation to speak, than calls him names in his introduction, and gets slammed for being uncivil. He couldn't have messed it up more if tried.

Charles Krautheimer said on Fox tonight that Dinnerjacket is right. In his part of the world, you don't invite someone into your tent and then tell them off. He said it just proves that Bollinger never should have invited the nut in the first place.

re: #201 Gordon

And no, the U.S. shouldn't do it. If there's one thing that would rally Iranians in patriotism around Ahminedijad and the mullahs, that would be it. And they know it too. That's why they're baiting us - they know a U.S. military strike or invasion is a sure way to hold onto power.

Well in a way I agree with you. I remember pre-Iraq invasion, all the Iraqi-Americans were all pro-war, pro-Bush. Now they aren't, they have turned against it. Anti-Mullah Iranians and Iranian-Americans might change their minds too. But their attitude is NOT what we should base our attack against their nuke facilities on or the overthrow of their govt. It has to be based on our national security interests.

re: #115 TalkinKamel

#97 zyganzint

Doesn't matter.

I'm sorry to say this, but it really, really doesn't matter any more, whether 99.9% of Columbia students are disgusted with Ahmadenijad or not. They let him come there. They didn't protest, they didn't shut down the college, they didn't go on strike for the day. They let him come, and they let him be applauded by the 1% of their number, who think he's the new messiah. In short, they let that 1% speak for all of them. They didn't voice their disgust beforehand, they didn't organize any sort of answer to him, or, as far as I can tell, protest their college's policies, so what good is their disgust now? The time to act was before he spoke. Now he's got a political, diplomatic coup, and all the disgust in the world won't change that.

Ahmadenijad shouldn't even be in our country, let alone speaking at a college. Feeling disgusted about doesn't do a damn thing.

I still admire the young student who did (finally) speak up, but I agree with you on the whole picture. Too late. Damage done.

re: #211 mensamann

re: #42 TS

I agree with you completely. Having this monster stand up there and lie about his stance on the holocaust, homosexuals, the Jewish state, etc. I think gives a strong and transparent view of who he is. I thought he was evil and disgusting before his speech and he solidified my opinion.

really? I didn't learn anything new about him (except how short he is). And I doubt anyone else did either. I don't think he changed any minds either way. The reception he got from the moonbat students probably had him smiling and thinking "...like sheeps to the slaughter".

re: #216 Stuck-in-CA

pimf...

like SHEEP to the slaughter. (not sheeps)

re: #215 leepro

Or if he is here he should be arrested.

Surely today must be counted as one of the saddest in the history of American Academics.

it doesn't matter.

say i'm an editor at the tehran television station. i show twenty seconds of ahmedinijhad denouncing israel, then cut to the sound of applause. then a minute of him calling americans terrorists, and some more applause. and wrap it all up with some religious gibberish, and more aplplause.

then have the newcasters explain that the beloved president was speaking before an audience of students at one of the great satan's most prestigious universitys.

and this is the only report that 99% of the arab world will see.

The National Press Club transcript

If you look closely at Bollinger's left eye, you'll notice the message .. .---. -- --- -. .-.. -.-- -.- .. -.. -.. .. -. --. -.-- --- ..- -.-. ..- - . .-.. .. - - .-.. . -.. .. -.-. - .- - --- .-.

re: #222 Myshkin

lol!

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/but to be fair to Charles, lets not abuse this technique with statements he doesn't want.

A handy tool! Isn't the internet great?

re: #201 Gordon

karmic inquisitor: There are many Iranians who want to throw off Ahminedijad and the mullah theocracy. Unfortunately, they live in a rigged dictatorship - the levers of power are controlled by the crazies. I hope for a day soon when they are thrown out of power - because of their rigged rules and willingness to use violence, I fear that any removal of them from power by other Iranians will have to be violent too.

And no, the U.S. shouldn't do it. If there's one thing that would rally Iranians in patriotism around Ahminedijad and the mullahs, that would be it. And they know it too. That's why they're baiting us - they know a U.S. military strike or invasion is a sure way to hold onto power.

I hope you re-read my post to you.

The point was this - you have a habit of accusation when you come here. One that centers on picking at people for over-generalizing in a medium that pretty much requires generalization. From there, you antagonize people for their soft-bigotry and tell them they are inclined to rash solutions as a result. That is my experience from reading you here, and I wouldn't be purprised to now hear that my summary is an over generalization.

All of that aside, let's look at outcomes and our options at this point in time:

Outcomes - binary:

Iran gets nuclear weapons or Iran does not get a nuclear weapons.

Options - many:

1) Allow Iran to get nuclear weapons - deal with Iran being more assertive in their sponsorship of terror in the region. Beef up intelligence and law enforcement capabilities to better counter act a more likely terror attack using nuclear weapons. Attempt to devise a deterrent strategy against use of such weapons while understanding that deterrence has yet to work against Islamic terrorism.

2) Attack Iran in order to set back their nuclear weapons capability for 10 years. Attack hardened infrastructure with sustained bombing and some raids by on-ground forces. Limit attacks to Iranian military and nuclear infrastructure. Deal with near universal condemnation of the US in almost all public forums (while being thanked by many states via back channels). Deal with Iranian blockades of Gulf oil shipping. Deal with Iranian orchestrate Shia uprising in Iraq, including condemnation by Shia Iraqi government. Be held accountable for any nuclear materials that enter the atmosphere as a result of the attacks. See a spike in global terrorism against US interests and persons. Re-iterate 10 years from now.

3) Attack Iran in order to topple government. See 2 for reaction, condemnations and options. Costs are higher in blood and treasure. Outcome is less assured. Costs associated with nation building in the face of another Islamist insurgency we are all familiar with. Only benefit is the prospect of not having to do it again in 10 years. Downside is that administration after Bush may not have stomach to see strategy through, so a worse regime is able to fill the void.

4) Foment a revolution. Get Iranians who are tired of regime to revolt in what one hopes would be a velvet revolution. Such a path would have been advocated by neo-cons based on expectations theory. However, with the Iranian president being handed a string of propaganda coups by hapless western "progressives" such "expectations" are lowered significantly. Further, velvet revolutions assume a government/military unwilling to fire on its own population, which is what the Revolutionary Guard is trained to do and does regularly (thus its name).

Got an alternative I have missed? I am all ears.

The Iranians are the victims in all of this. The future victims will be those who stand in the way of Iran asserting regional hegemony. The Columbia students and faculty are not being victimized here - they have enabled the latest propaganda coup and would have seen it coming were they to have listened to criticism (eg "engaged in open discourse") rather than condemn all crticism of their "Potemkin tolerance fair" as neo-con rantings.

re: #219 scottthecanuck

Surely today must be counted as one of the saddest in the history of American Academics.

Just wait. They're still digging.

I'm watching CNN, not surprisingly they and all the MSM are now circling the wagons by rallying around Columbia and attempting to portray the whole event as some kind of take down by the heroic Columbia President.

The sad thing about a totalitarian society such as Iran is that the victims are also the perpetrators. Look at E. Germany.

re: #220 varmint

it doesn't matter.

say i'm an editor at the tehran television station. i show twenty seconds of ahmedinijhad denouncing israel, then cut to the sound of applause. then a minute of him calling americans terrorists, and some more applause. and wrap it all up with some religious gibberish, and more applause.

then have the newscasters explain that the beloved president was speaking before an audience of students at one of the great satan's most prestigious university's.

and this is the only report that 99% of the arab world will see.

Exactly. But Gordon doesn't see things that way. He can't understand the power of propaganda in the arab world. He has to see evil, in flesh and blood, on our shores before he can comprehend it. Thinking 'outside of the box' doesn't come easily to some, I guess. I can say to a young child, don't hit yourself in the thumb with that hammer. Some children will understand and be wary, others have to experience the pain for themselves before they can comprehend.

Nutjob said on 60 Misraminutes that "I am Muslim. I cannot tell a lie."

Yet he did just that. Lied about lying. Their Koran allows, in fact, encourages lying to infidels. And I bet he'll top that lie by lying to fellow Iranians about how he set America straight and that even the great Satan could not stop him from speaking.

We should not have let him get that mileage here. As I said yesterday, shuttled to the UN and after his speech, shuttled right back to the airport. Short of arresting his sorry ass.

Well, I guess I'm in the minority here. First of all, while Bollinger's speech may very well have been intended to keep Alumni happy and thier bucks flowing to Columbia, I watched it live (on Fox) and my jaw was agape - I came into it about 5 minutes late and don't know if he mentioned 1979, but he sure hit every other point right on target. Moreover, he may be an actor, but he sure seemed sincere with what he was saying, and DinnerJacket sure took umbrage with it.
As for the cheers and applause, AS I WATCHED IT *, it started out almost 50/50 during Bollinger's speech, but once Dinnerjacket started rambling, the applause took a definite dive, to the point where, when he was asked about the treatment of homosexuals, the cheers and applause were for the question. By the time Dinnerjacket finished his, again, rambling disembling, ending in the there are no homosexuals in Iran, there were no cheers or applause of any significance and there were boos - loud and sustained from all over the audience. I'd hardly call Dinnerjacket's speech a resounding success for him, indeed, quite the opposite.
*apologies for the all caps, but the Italics button isn't working. Nor, apparently, is the preview button.

Listen to the Bollinger speech. You will hear very loud applause from the students, again and again, for Bollinger's shredding of ImaDamnNutjob.

re: #231 realwest

On target! That's pretty much the way I saw it, too.

re: #225 karmic_inquisitor

I'd go for option #2 fully prepared to go again in 10 years knowing by then that the worm will have turned on the oil money that is the underlying power fueling 90% of Islamic terror. Once viable alternative technology is in place (and one day it will be) we will see the so called muslim world rapidly descend back in to oblivion this time for good.

As for a revolution forget it. It is not in the nature of the muslim culture 1979 notwithstanding. muslims are hopelessly prevented from ever attaining democracy so long as they remain...muslim. The ideas are incompatible in the long run. Just look at Turkey slowly edging to theocracy.

re: #229 ec marm

I can say to a young child, don't hit yourself in the thumb with that hammer. Some children will understand and be wary, others have to experience the pain for themselves before they can comprehend.

And some children are so dense they will keep hitting themselves with the hammer and never make the connection.

re: #232 traeh

Listen to the Bollinger speech. You will hear very loud applause from the students, again and again, for Bollinger's shredding of ImaDamnNutjob.

That's also what the AP reported.

re: #235 Stuck-in-CA

Still others will continue hammering and blame Bush.

re: #225 karmic_inquisitor?

Here is the definition of projection.

M@therF*cker should have been arrested and tried for his crimes during the American hostage crisis back in 1979.

For a start.

is there a full version of this session on the internet anywhere yet?

link me

re: #234 scottthecanuck

The hope held out for Iran was that it is Persian and not Arabic and has its own identity that predates the expansion of Islam.

That was the hope.

Moot point now, IMO.

I agree that option 2 is it.

I have people who argue with me that Iran won't nuke the US -- that they aren't suicidal. That isn't the point, however. They will take their nuclear umbrella / deterrent out for a spin and try to dominate the region and build the competing terror franchise to AQ.

At that point, who will stop them? Hillary? Obama? Pelosi?

Option 1 isn't an option to anyone interested in political stability in this world.

re: #238 Roger

Good point.

Interesting too that The Economist is a publication out of the UK, where one does not have constitutional rights of any kind and the press is regularly censored. I always find it interesting when the UK's elite lectures the US on the erosion of rights.

re: #236 ciaospirit

re: #232 traeh

Listen to the Bollinger speech. You will hear very loud applause from the students, again and again, for Bollinger's shredding of ImaDamnNutjob.

That's also what the AP reported.

I just listened on youtube to "part 1" of Ahmadinejad's replies to Columbia students. In Part 1, Ahmadinejad unfortunately does get applause from the more benighted students in the audience.

re: #203 zulubaby

Hello again. It's nice to see that not all the oldtimers have been banned, or moved to a certain weird site that I perused for the first time today, or both.

And, thanks to Charles' rating system, I got to put a nice little "minus" by your comment! Life is grand, ain't it?

On a more serious note, it's nice to see that some LGF regulars like realwest don't think that Ahminedijad's visit to Columbia was quite the disaster some LGF doomsayers are all to eager to argue.

This is exactly why Columbia was enabling terror and evil by hosting this man. The propaganda of Columbia students enthusiatically applauding the mouthpiece of the mullahs of the tyrannical regime in Tehran will be used for the advancement of Islamofascism, and oppression of free people and civilization, not any Ivory Tower concepts of "free speech" and "liberal thought" or "we're better than that" blah blah.

Nothing will be remembered, just that Columbia invited and students cheered the man. He must therefore be right. Useful Idiots - the fools who prefer to believe the word of the wolf over the word of the guard who strode the fenceline, warning them to be careful.

If this hasn't been posted already.

Transcript of speach and Q & A

AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Oh, God, hasten the arrival of Imam al-Mahdi and grant him good health and victory and make us his followers and those to attest to his rightfulness.

President Lee C. Bollinger's Introductory Remarks

re: #246 Cactus

If this hasn't been posted already.

Transcript of speach and Q & A

AHMADINEJAD (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Oh, God, hasten the arrival of Imam al-Mahdi and grant him good health and victory and make us his followers and those to attest to his rightfulness.

President Lee C. Bollinger's Introductory Remarks

I hope someone is checking her translation of what he said.

re: #244 Gordon

re: #203 zulubaby

Hello again. It's nice to see that not all the oldtimers have been banned, or moved to a certain weird site that I perused for the first time today, or both.

And, thanks to Charles' rating system, I got to put a nice little "minus" by your comment! Life is grand, ain't it?

On a more serious note, it's nice to see that some LGF regulars like realwest don't think that Ahminedijad's visit to Columbia was quite the disaster some LGF doomsayers are all to eager to argue.

LOL! Gordon, I think that is the first time you have ever made me laugh. Evah!

You're still a tool though.

P.S. What weird site? I'm a bit out of the online loop, believe it or not ...

Holocaust denying/plannning Iranian dictator and terrorist Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's presence at Columbia University is abhorrent. Columbia University is a disgrace.

A lot more clapping than 30, thats for sure. And the lies, the lies!

'In Iran we allow our invited guests to speak freely and the students can make up their own minds'- he said.
Okay: Invite Robert Spencer or Daniel Pipes to Iran and let the students make up 'their own mind'.

Chances are the Iranian students will be running from the scene with their invited speakers testicles in their mouths and their guts over their shoulders...[Link: sheikyermami.com...]

re: #244 Gordon

re: #203 zulubaby
Hello again. It's nice to see that not all the oldtimers have been banned, or moved to a certain weird site that I perused for the first time today, or both.
And, thanks to Charles' rating system, I got to put a nice little "minus" by your comment! Life is grand, ain't it?
On a more serious note, it's nice to see that some LGF regulars like realwest don't think that Ahminedijad's visit to Columbia was quite the disaster some LGF doomsayers are all to eager to argue.

Hello again? The committee of Gordon - two or three heads are better than one to take on LGF. SO brave. Some people got banned because they raged too rawly at evil, but you show up and love it, laugh as if it was a fantasy, embrace it and think it's ironic and something to belittle.
Guess you don't know how it felt to be the hostage with the blindfold over his face, with the grinning Ahmedinejad clutching his arm, pushing him before the cameras to be used to mock our nation, snickering at the fact that he was part of commiting an act of war, but was going to get away with it. Guess you've never felt that cold fear that you are looking at death, seen the flames of fire raging into the black night, charring screaming people into black husks.
The man who stood at Columbia today desires to kill them all - that whole audience. He liked it, he reveled in it, looking over those faces, mocking them with his presence, boldly lying to them, to us all. And YOU come here to laugh about it. On what grounds? Humanitarian? Intellectual? Moral? High IQ? Impressed by an uneducated brute? Amazing.

re: #244 Gordon

On a more serious note, it's nice to see that some LGF regulars like realwest don't think that Ahminedijad's visit to Columbia was quite the disaster some LGF doomsayers are all to eager to argue.

Some will inevitably pay the price. Maybe not in this country, but some people are able to extend their sense of empathy beyond their own shallow life.

re: #248 zulubaby

re: #244 Gordon

re: #203 zulubaby

LOL! Gordon, I think that is the first time you have ever made me laugh. Evah!

You're still a tool though.

Hello zulubaby. Long time no see, and here you are being beastly to Gordon!

How are you?

re: #249 zulubaby

P.S. What weird site? I'm a bit out of the online loop, believe it or not ...

Greetings. Hope you are well. There is a site that some lgf posters, unable to understand that free speech has limits, have congregated. They take pot shots at Charles from there. I won't give you a link to it, because that would please them. Gordon, tool that he is (and you have properly noted) is only wishing to sow dissent.

re: #254 greenmamba

re: #248 zulubaby

re: #244 Gordon

re: #203 zulubaby

LOL! Gordon, I think that is the first time you have ever made me laugh. Evah!

You're still a tool though.

Hello zulubaby. Long time no see, and here you are being beastly to Gordon!

How are you?

Hello greenmamba! I still think Gordon is an amoral moron. But enough about him ...

#256 Zulubaby

Gordon is an amoral moron (and I think there's more than one of him), but he's fun to laugh it! It's also fun to put those negative checks next to his comments.

re: #255 EC Marm

re: #249 zulubaby

P.S. What weird site? I'm a bit out of the online loop, believe it or not ...

Greetings. Hope you are well. There is a site that some lgf posters, unable to understand that free speech has limits, have congregated. They take pot shots at Charles from there. I won't give you a link to it, because that would please them. Gordon, tool that he is (and you have properly noted) is only wishing to sow dissent.

All my old friends tonight! :-)

I think someone told me about that site. If they have nothing better to do than talk crap about Charles, well, at least he gives their lives some kind of meaning. I love Charles. Always have, always will.

I hope you're well. I must go to bed now or I'll be demented tomorrow. Sending love to everyone.

Life is grand, ain't it Gordon? Especially when you're the undead but oh-so-lively Baldwin IV, the Leper King---moi!

The dolphins and I are sending you some of my new disco dancin' CD's. Enjoy!

re: #257 TalkinKamel

#256 Zulubaby

Gordon is an amoral moron (and I think there's more than one of him), but he's fun to laugh it! It's also fun to put those negative checks next to his comments.

Too funny! As if I care what Gordon thinks about anything, but especially about my comments. How are you?! I really have to go, but I'm so happy to see everyone! I'll try to post again some time this week. Mwuh!

#258 Zulubaby

And love to you, too!

:>)

#260 Zulubaby

Oh, and I'm doing quite well, and hope you are, too!

re: #259 TalkinKamel

Life is grand, ain't it Gordon? Especially when you're the undead but oh-so-lively Baldwin IV, the Leper King---moi!

The dolphins and I are sending you some of my new disco dancin' CD's. Enjoy!

LOL! You are hilarious.

Night.

#263 Zulubaby

Many thanks!

(And sweet dreams!)

Gordon should be celebrated as an excellent opportunity to give new readers summaries of history - the events that came up to today- the background of this terror man, the reminders that this man declared America his enemy in 1979, when the radicals burst through the gates of the United States Embassy, and overran the compound, taking the staff of the Embassy hostage, an act of war.
The subesquent years of Iran abusing the diplomatic protocols that all nations use to be able to function. The acts of terror - one building on the next. The failing of then President Jimmy Carter a DEMOCRAT totally out of his depth - unable to confront a wobbly and disorganized Iran - barely into its revolution, NO power to stop any serious AMerican demands to return the hostages - a president so unworthy of the title, of the office - ignorant of the history of America with the Muslim states and hostage-takings. Those the very reasons for the establishment of our Navy - AND the construction and formation of our foreign policy from 1799 !
Yes! Let's educate the readers, let's remind them of things the likes of Gordon and Co. do NOT want people to learn - they've kept it out of our schools, so no one knows the proud and brilliant history of America against the barbarian states of slaves and despots. The Beys and Pashas who declared that they would triumph over free men of America, a new country, hardly healed from it's wounds of the war that created it, yet were brought low by a few ships sent thousands of miles over hostile seas, just a FEW of America's BEST - freedom-loving men who fought state-sponsored piracy and liberated Americans from dungeons and slavery. The kings who demanded that America was a tributary state to their wasteland kingdoms- ordering a payment of tribute to them upon the death of George Washington.
Yes, anytime. Let's celebrate our brave and glorious past fighting depots and winning.

The first time a left wing rant actually makes sense. Of course it sound like the pressure got to Lee and he was forced to do the right thing.
By inviting and then slamming this thug, he has only won the scorn from BOTH sides of the argument.

re: #265 wanumba

I don't know why we would be fighting railway stations. Perhaps you meant despots ...

Also, after a big initial flurry of Ahmedinejad as hostage-taker allegations the story disappeared. Has it been proven conclusively that he was one of them in 1979? Or even non-conclusively?

#267 Gordon

While despots is what Wanumba actually said. So perhaps she meant---despots? Like, you know, tyrannical guys who make life a misery for their people, like Beys and Pashas, and Ahmadenijad?

However, train depots can, indeed, be dangerous sometimes, as can trains themselves! They are nasty, and up to no good. When you travel, use your handy-dandy SUV, or roller skates or your convenient pocket time travel device, which is what I always use, when I travel around the galaxy. Avoid trains and train depots at all costs---they are not to be trusted, and they have bad habits.

Sincerely,

Baldwin IV, the travelin' man Leper King.

re: #267 Gordon
re: 265 wanumba

I don't know why we would be fighting railway stations. Perhaps you meant despots ...

Good catch! I saw the typo and thought, should I bother to post again and mention it or should I ASSUME that readers put their top-notch brains cells to the task and are perfectly capable of recognizing it for a typo? Then, I thought, people who need to avoid the master point being made 'cause they have nothing worthwhile to use to rebut, will dodge and come back and focus on a typo to belittle the clear message and not at all mention the profound and serious issues confronting us.
Heh! Right on cue! Gordon goes for the typo! YEEESSS!
thank you thank you thank you!

Also, after a big initial flurry of Ahmedinejad as hostage-taker allegations the story disappeared. Has it been proven conclusively that he was one of them in 1979? Or even non-conclusively?

Initial flurry is a irresponsible way to phrase the genuine concerns that we are dealing with a man who started his career by participating in an act of war. He didn't have any power to do worse then, now he confronts us with the threat of Nukes, he with a track record of trashing the international structures that allow countries to function with each other.
So, the question really is, not WOULD you bet your life on it, but you MUST bet your life on being right about this. He is PROMISING his followers that he will NUKE us. It's a variation on Pascal's Wager. Which is the more prudent route to take: believing Ahmedinejad's threats to Nuke us and Israel or NOT believing Ahmedinejad's threats?
Pascal would point out that LOSING the wager that Ahmedinejad's promise of instant searing incineration and degenerative radioactive DEATH for us is false, and therefore doing NOTHING to protect oneself, means DEATH, just as he promised. The other position is losing the wager that Ahmedinejad is serious and formulating a strategy to guard against it, which turns out to be not necessary, which only ends in some level of managable embarrassment. You are alive. Or, you believe Ahmedinejad is serious, you take all necessary measures to protect yourself - no one bounces back from being Nuked. It is folly to take a Nuke hit that you could have prevented.
Choose. Your LIFE and the LIVES of millions depend on the correct wager.