Iran will have no homosexuals for the same reason it will have no Jews.

Persecution!

Ahmedinejad: "I am a Muslim, I cannot Lie" [paraphrasing].

Ahmedinejad: "There are no homosexuals in Iran".

hmmm :-?

“We don’t have homosexuals in Iran like you do in this country,”

Yes, they kill them

I'd love to send the YouTube links to my lesbian, moonbatty sister but it would not change her belief that it's not gonna' come here. Too bad she doesn't feel solidarity with homosexuals in Iran.

Iran's solution to homosexuality is just like Saudi Arabia's was to Jews get rid of them.

re: #3 me

He Tehran's answer to Baghdad BoB. Unfoutrunately the Koskidz and other leftists don't care about Human rights in Islamic coutries. They're too busy being anti-American.

re: #5 MandyManners

Sad but true.

And the Gay coalition will still vote with the leftists and islamists.

You want to be gay, so be it. Just don't touch my children. That is all I ask.

Islam adhores homosexuality. It is one of the reasons, and it's probably true, they consider our way of life decadent. Muslims are homosexual at their own peril.

"... In the last days ... I shall restore the fortunes of Elam (Iran), declares the Lord."

- Jeremiah 49:39

re: #3 me

Ahmedinejad: "I am a Muslim, I cannot Lie" [paraphrasing].

Ahmedinejad: "There are no homosexuals in Iran".

hmmm :-?

Trying to apply logic to the Seventy Century's adherents will only drive you insane.

Jesus loves homosexuals...love the sinner hate the sin! Billy Graham was asked once what he would do if his son was gay, he said he would love him even more.

Thanks for posting this, Charles! I was beginning to get nervous, and was going to post it in a comment instead! The quicker the better with this meme!

Most Iranian Christian refugees are Muslim convert Christians. Under the Islamic Law (Sharia) they are considered apostates from Islam. The Islamic Law commands that such persons should be put to death, their marriages annulled and their children and property taken from them. In countries like Iran and Afghanistan, as the recent case of Abdul Rahman exposed, the death penalty for apostasy is the normal and accepted practice.

Such barbaric treatments, as those that are practiced in the Islamic Republic of Ian are in clear violation of the international human rights such as Article 18 of the United Nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights. Every human being should have the freedom to hold to a faith other than Islam and change his/her faith without fear of punishment from his government or people. However, it is clear that members of minority religions in Islamic countries will not be granted this freedom anytime soon.

re: #8 Killgore Trout

re: #5 MandyManners

Sad but true.

The intellectual dishonesty is astounding but, she's never been much on academics.

But, I love her to pieces. She just drives me up the wall at times.

But - but -

I just read somewhere that 50,000 or something Jews live in Iran happily and have seats in local government and everything, and refuse to move to Israel despite the Zionist's financial incentives and all that.

re: #7 Killgore Trout

re: #3 me

He Tehran's answer to Baghdad BoB. Unfoutrunately the Koskidz and other leftists don't care about Human rights in Islamic coutries. They're too busy being anti-American.

Yeah, so true. Listening in to some of the LLL callers after the CSPAN broadcasts was like being stuck on stupid. Fortunately there were also a few sane voices.

This episode of Ahmedinejad overload in the past couple days has me feeling very very queasy. Sure I'm not the only one.

I've seen pictures of young Iranian men being hung for homosexuality.

I've seen pictures of Iranian women being draped in a full body burqa and hung.

I've seen pictures of other Iranian women being forced to kneel down and shot in the back of the head.

Then, there are the barbaric stoning of women for alleged adultery.

Just what is it Columbia students hope to learn from this fascist, Islamic freak?

I m very upset! Why did you, Americans, allow this to happen? :-(

re: #11 MandyManners

Trying to apply logic to the Seventy Century's adherents will only drive you insane.

Ah, so THAT's what happened to me!

re: #18 Milk Toast Intolerant

Just what is it Columbia students hope to learn from this fascist, Islamic freak?

That dialogue will make you feel better about yourself.

re: #19 winston06

I m very upset! Why did you, Americans, allow this to happen? :-(

Are you Iranian, my friend?

Via Powerline, kudos to TheNoseOnYourFace for putting together questions that should have been put to Ahmadenijad.

Dearest Sultan:

First, I want to apologize for the so-called lizards at the Zionist blog Little Green Footballs who have taken to calling you “DinnerJacket.” That their ignorance and intolerance extends even to their fashion sensibility should not surprise us. The enlightened among, us, however, can appreciate that a Members Only jacket never goes out of style.

My question is this: many BusHitler supporters conveniently believe that, in your famous “World Without Zionism” speech, you said that “Israel should be wiped from the map.” Last week, in my Tibetan Film and TV class, the professor told us that academic scholars have properly translated the phrase as, “Live long and prosper my Hebrew brethren.” Clearly, this translation is more in keeping with Iran’s great tradition of tolerance. But I remain perplexed: why is it that Israel wants to kill Arab babies?
___

re: #20 me

re: #11 MandyManners

Trying to apply logic to the Seventy Century's adherents will only drive you insane.

Ah, so THAT's what happened to me!

It's happened to me a lot and I have the bruised brain to show for it!

there are no homosexuals in Iran just men with unusually wide stances

re: #18 Milk Toast Intolerant

I've seen pictures of young Iranian men being hung for homosexuality.

I've seen pictures of Iranian women being draped in a full body burqa and hung.

I've seen pictures of other Iranian women being forced to kneel down and shot in the back of the head.

Then, there are the barbaric stoning of women for alleged adultery.

Just what is it Columbia students hope to learn from this fascist, Islamic freak?

For one thing, they learned that we should question whether the holocaust happened until we've had a chance to research the situation.

I've been stewing about this all day, and barraging Charles with links. The gall of DinnerJacket to not only deny his regime tortures and massacres gays, but to even deny they exist! Meanwhile, over at Kos, they have "lesbian crushes" on the guy and want to elect him president of the US. Grrr!

Here are some of the links, for posterity:

The Persian Gay and Lesbian Organization, recently renamed the Iranian Queer Organization:

[Link: www.pglo.net...]

First-hand testimonies of gay Iranians:

[Link: www.thegully.com...]

[Link: www.globalgayz.com...]

The Persian gay and lesbian magazine "Cheraq" (in Farsi):

[Link: www.pglo.net...]

Gay man hanged in public in Iran (2006):

[Link: www.iranfocus.com...]

Iranian gay youth hanged (2005 news article):

[Link: gayorbit.net...]

Gay Iranian torture victim:

[Link: www.zmag.org...]

Hi-res original wmv video of the YouTubes above:

[Link: www.cbc.ca...]

re: #19 winston06

I m very upset! Why did you, Americans, allow this to happen? :-(

It's part and parcel of being a free society.

re: #19 winston06

Tell us what you want us to know about your country of origin. How can we help?

This video is not really about the "Gay" scene in Iran -- it's about drug traffickers, which corrupt Iranian society, and are thus eligible for execution, as they are here, in America.

Jeez -- didn't you guys understand Mahmoud's speech today?

Iranian General: U.S. Troops in Iraq and Afghanistan Are Within Iran's Firing Range

/whistling past the graveyard

re: #19 winston06
Do you know kamingir? I wish he had an lgf account, I'd love to hear what he has to say, too.

Later, Lizards!

re: #30 song_and_dance_man

Good thing Arafat didn't live in Iran.

Nice.

Winston -

I love this quote on your blog :)

Winston is a pen name for a Canada based Pro-America, Pro-Israel Iranian neo-conservative who is seeking regime change in Iran! Winston is also a supporter of the Global War on Terrorism & President Bush's policies in the middle-east. --- ((On a side note: This weblog is to side with the Neo-con American Right-wing Zionist/Christian Imperialist Conspiracies against the Iranian Mullahocracy. If this is your cup of tea, please enjoy your stay here. If not, please back off & don't waste your time - Thanks))

Very nice ! :)

re: #29 mama winger
His web page will tell you much.

But...but...but the Rethuglicans won't allow gays to get married which is exactly the same as executing them, if you think about it.

/Moonbat moral equivocation.

re: #18 Milk Toast Intolerant

I've seen pictures of young Iranian men being hung for homosexuality.

I've seen pictures of Iranian women being draped in a full body burqa and hung.

I've seen pictures of other Iranian women being forced to kneel down and shot in the back of the head.

Then, there are the barbaric stoning of women for alleged adultery.

Just what is it Columbia students hope to learn from this fascist, Islamic freak?

TOLERANCE

re: #37 EC Marm

I just clicked on it. See the quote above - it's marvelous

Could we treat the Libs in the US like iran treats the Jewish people and the gays?

I have to go lie down for a bit - Vicodin is kicking in.

I will catch up later.

G-d loves dinner jacket...

Two years after 9/11 with its destruction of the World Trade Center, Billy was holding meetings in Dallas. Some Americans felt all Muslims were suspect. Billy's colleague, Rick Marshall, told us, "It surprised me to learn that one of the largest U.S. populations of Muslims is in central Texas. We were at Texas Stadium in October, right between Dallas and Fort Worth. Billy did an interview with The Dallas Morning News, and one of the questions the writer put to him was, 'Dr. Graham, do you have a message for the Muslims of Texas?' He answered without hesitation.

"The next day the headline on the front page, bottom section was 'Billy Graham has a message for Muslims: 'God loves them, and I love them.'

"It was a powerful statement. Talk about cutting right to the heart of the gospel! Everyone was talking about it, because it defused so much anger and so much criticism. It brought to the table the hallmark of Billy's ministry."

IMAO's take.

There Are No Gays, But Men Do Sodomize Each Other (In a Completely Hetero Way)
Posted by Frank J. at 05:36 PM

When asked about Iran's execution of gays, Ahmadinejad said there are no gays in Iran. He added that while his country had been bad to gays, he would love to treat them with respect now, but unfortunately they had killed them all so it's a moot point.

Why is it that conservatives seem to be the ones most concerned about the persecution of gay people in places such as Cuba and Iran? I thought conservatives were supposed to hate gays? I guess we need gays to be alive and free before we can hate them.

In 1983 the Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini ruled that sex change surgery is not only halal, but that it is mandatory that homosexuals to live as the opposite sex. Read this article from 2005:
Iran's Transsexual Revolution
By Caroline Mangez
The Independent UK
Also see this video from MEMRI: Sex Changes in Iran

re: #28 MandyManners

re: #19 winston06

I m very upset! Why did you, Americans, allow this to happen? :-(

It's part and parcel of being a free society.

nobody asked me my opinion and I'm an American...get a grip

Combine all that with this "humor" post at Kos:

Republicans hail Ahmadinejad for gay-free Iran

AP -- New York -- Leading Republicans excoriated Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad today for what it characterized as threatening statements against Israel, for denying the historical veracity of the Holocaust, and for pursuing nuclear weapons for Iran, but reserved praise for Ahmadinejad's claim that Iran does not have any homosexuals.

"Much as I think the little bugger is a raving lunatic," said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, "and as much as I think we need to bomb his country into miniscule, carbonized fragments as soon as humanly possible, it is quite a pleasing revelation to hear that his country has managed to solve the G-A-Y problem. Huzzah, Mahmoud. Huzzah indeed."

Except, you see, none of that really happened. Well, it shoulda happened, in a truth-y sort of way, except that in reality it didn't.

What happened in reality was that the denizens of Kos practically vote to make Ahmadinejad president of the US, and "progressives" cheered him when he spoke to them in NY. While us "neo-cons" condemned his every gesture, every syllable.

That's right, you disgusting Kossacks, look deeply into the mirror: it is YOU that are validating this guy, it is YOU that are applauding his message, it is YOU that are responsible for the relentless brutal massacre of gays in Iran. And all your snarky phony news stories will never change that.

re: #41 LeftJustAintRight

Could we treat the Libs in the US like iran treats the Jewish people and the gays?

NO, never ever ever. Thats why we fight against Sharia Law.

re: #38 Spiritualized

One would think that would give them pause, just as it tumbles past their lips. Odd how it never happens.

re: #19 winston06

I wouldn't have given him the platform if the decision was mine to make. However, there is good that can come from this. Ahmadinejad made a fool of himself today to everyone but the most insane progressive. They laughed in his face when he said there were no gays in Iran.
Now, every website and news agency is discussing the treatment of homosexuals and women in Islam.
There is a silver lining here.

I dunno, Mahmoud. You sure look like a hairy "bear" to me.

re: #44 rab3

There Are No Gays, But Men Do Sodomize Each Other (In a Completely Hetero Way)
Posted by Frank J. at 05:36 PM

...

Why is it that conservatives seem to be the ones most concerned about the persecution of gay people in places such as Cuba and Iran? I thought conservatives were supposed to hate gays? I guess we need gays to be alive and free before we can hate them.

Conservatives hate gays? Who knew? And even those who find homosexuality immoral certainly don't think they should be persecuted. It should be added that the mainstream Democrat party doesn't support gay marriage. John Kerry, for example.

The madness slips past the Veil.

re: #47 zombie

I saw that too. It's their fantasy of what they imagine should be happening. Since they can't find what they want on the news wires they have to make it up.

re: #22 mama winger

re: #19 winston06

I m very upset! Why did you, Americans, allow this to happen? :-(

Are you Iranian, my friend?

Yes, I am an Iranian living in Canada... IN EXILE, away from my loved ones... I am so upset, so angry, so sad...

re: #42 mama winger

Vicodin is kicking in.

It's the only way to really relax. Sleep well.

We don't have homosexuals in Iran

re: #50 Killgore Trout

re: #19 winston06

I wouldn't have given him the platform if the decision was mine to make. However, there is good that can come from this. Ahmadinejad made a fool of himself today to everyone but the most insane progressive. They laughed in his face when he said there were no gays in Iran.
Now, every website and news agency is discussing the treatment of homosexuals and women in Islam.
There is a silver lining here.

The spin will be on in 5,4,3,2,1
'President Ammaleisuresuitjacket reiterated today that there is "not a problem with gays in Iran." The Columbia University Interpreter has been sent back to Iran for further education.

Huffpo covers this and yet readers comments still manages to lump conservatives in with Afterdinnerjacket.

Sure,... right,... whatever,...

Denial,... not just a river in Africa.

You go right ahead and tell yourself that - 'cause it makes you fit right back in with our own American brand of religious wing-nuts.

and this.

Ahmadinejad gets laughed at. His foolishness makes us laugh.

But at least he faces a hostile public audience.

Bush makes sure he'll never face an audience which will laugh in his face or boo him.

Bush sorts his audiences and only the worshipful Bush-loyalists are allowed to be seen or heard in his presence.

(As an atheist...) it's really pathetic that some on the left think the christian right is the same as the islamic right.
That they think not wanting legal gay marriage is the same as hanging gay people, for, well, being gay!
Stupid people!

re: #19 winston06

I m very upset! Why did you, Americans, allow this to happen? :-(

G-d allowed it to happen...yes or no?

re: #25 bulwrk

there are no homosexuals in Iran just men with unusually wide stances

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA !

re: #47 zombie

The last time I was on Kos, there was some person trying to say that the Jews created the cold war and after the fall of the berlin wall, well, the Jews knew that america needed a new enemy so they latched on to the whole 'evil terrorist' muslim entity. It was bizarre. Nothing about Berlin 1972.

re: #55 winston06

re: #22 mama winger

re: #19 winston06

I m very upset! Why did you, Americans, allow this to happen? :-(

Are you Iranian, my friend?

Yes, I am an Iranian living in Canada... IN EXILE, away from my loved ones... I am so upset, so angry, so sad...

relax...its just Hollywood posturing...

re: #9 Sevoguy

You want to be gay, so be it. Just don't touch my children. That is all I ask.

You sound like someone who might think that the world is 6000 years old or something :)

It's not a case of gay people wanting to be gay. It's a case of them being that way and having no choice.

Just as someone is short or tall, so people are gay or straight.

As for you not wanting them to touch your children: homosexuality isn't a disease. It cannot be spread by touch.

Although I visit this site daily, I do despair when I discover fellow "anti-idiotarians" with views such as yours.

Do as I say, not as I do!

“We don’t have homosexuals in Iran like you do in this country,”

Odd, it took two mouse clicks to find this, must be a satirical site.

Charles

have u seen this

[Link: www.mererhetoric.com...]

re: #47 zombie

Combine all that with this "humor" post at Kos:

That's right, you disgusting Kossacks, look deeply into the mirror: it is YOU that are validating this guy, it is YOU that are applauding his message, it is YOU that are responsible for the relentless brutal massacre of gays in Iran. And all your snarky phony news stories will never change that.

The Kos Kidz lack any appreciation for the gravity of the plight of gays in Iran and elsewhere. They view international geopolitics as some sort of soccer match, where they get to hoot, throw litter on the field, and beat up adjacent audience members.

Any gay person who supports Achmedinajad or thinks life for Gays is bad in the US should just move to Iran for a while and sober up.

There was a TV programme on UK TV just now about the infamous Ulster terrorist Johnny 'Mad Dog' Adair who is 'idolised' by ex Neo-Nazi's in Germnay.

While the programme was about Adair and the leader of the ex Neo-Nazi's, it did touch on their search for a 'new goal', as seen briefly in this clip of the programme that the future was a battle against christians and islamists.

This is a chilling insight in the type of characters who will come into prominence if the madness of political correctness that is griping our society is allowed to continue.

re: #62 Hooray for Captain Spaulding

re: #25 bulwrk

there are no homosexuals in Iran just men with unusually wide stances

BWAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA !

Ahmadinejad Seeks to Soothe Critics

Huh? Could have fooled me. I don't feel soothed.

re: #21 mama winger

re: #18 Milk Toast Intolerant

Just what is it Columbia students hope to learn from this fascist, Islamic freak?

That dialogue will make you feel better about yourself.

Shouldn't that be "dialogue"? What we saw sure wasn't dialogue, but the LLL like to fool themselves...

#11 Mandy Manners

The cleric and dinnerjacket are indulging in an informal logical fallacy

...There are no homosexuals in Islam.
But that fellow over there is Muslim and homosexual.
...Oh, but he's not a true Muslim, then.

This fallacy has been around for so long it has a name- No True Scotsman

re: #55 winston06

How long have you been seperated. I had an Iranian friend on the run after the Shah (not Shaw as some illiterates on certain sites type) was deposed. The last I saw him he hadn't heard from his family in over a year and believed them to be murdered by the thought police.

NEVER EVER give the thought police weapons.

Me thinks he doth protest to much?

Bahley, Ahmadinejad Bache Kuni ast!

re: #73 insanity police

Me, neither. Not in the least.

Anyway, off to practice. Maybe the throbbing in my head will ease off.

Yo, Iran,

Honor Mahmoud...by putting him on the 3 Rial bill!

/

Flash news for the supporters of the visiting "dignitary":

When Ahmedinejad says:

"Iranian homosexuals are well hung"

it's not a compliment.

We don’t have homosexuals in Iran like you do in this country

Dinnerjacket actually might refer to this:

Socially segregated from women, Arab men succumb to homosexual behavior. But, interestingly enough, there is no word for "homosexual" in their culture in the modern Western sense. That is because having sex with boys, or with effeminate men, is seen as a social norm. Males serve as available substitutes for unavailable women. The male who does the penetrating, meanwhile, is not emasculated any more than if he had sex with a wife. The male who is penetrated is emasculated. The boy, however, is not, since it is rationalized that he is not yet a man.

In this culture, males sexually penetrating males becomes a manifestation of male power, conferring a status of hyper-masculinity. It is considered to have nothing to do with homosexuality. An unmarried man who has sex with boys is simply doing what men do. As the scholar Bruce Dunne has demonstrated, sex in Islamic societies is not about mutuality between partners, but about the adult male's achievement of pleasure through violent domination.

That is... Arab men have gay sex without being gay?

the Billy Graham quote...

jews and homosexuals are equal?

Brilliant.

re: #65 sneaky

re: #9 Sevoguy

You want to be gay, so be it. Just don't touch my children. That is all I ask.

You sound like someone who might think that the world is 6000 years old or something :)

It's not a case of gay people wanting to be gay. It's a case of them being that way and having no choice.

Just as someone is short or tall, so people are gay or straight.

As for you not wanting them to touch your children: homosexuality isn't a disease. It cannot be spread by touch.

Although I visit this site daily, I do despair when I discover fellow "anti-idiotarians" with views such as yours.

Sounds like not wanting Italians, or French, or Gypsies, ... or Jews, or to touch the kids.

Interestingly enough, "the kids" may turn out gay regardless.

re: #65 sneaky

I'm with you. My best friend is a gay man, who takes care of his 2 nieces and a nephew because their straight momma would rather do crack. He's the best thing that ever happened to those kids.

Gay does not equal pedophile.

re: #81 hans ze beeman

Most Iranians aren't Arab (they're Persian), but generally the same concept applies anyway.

re: #85 m

Thanks for answering that one; I have erased six replies because they ceased being polite rather quickly.

re: #4 shug

“We don’t have homosexuals in Iran like you do in this country,”

Yes, they kill them

Come on. You're missing the subtle nuance... He said that they don't have homosexuals in Iran like we do here.

I'm sure that the gays/lesbians in Iran wouldn't DARE behave like they do in, say, San Francisco during Pride. So, 'his' homosexuals, by definition, aren't like those 'we do' [have] in this country.

re: #65 sneaky

You may have mis-understood just a bit.

1) Everyone has the right to be gay. I havent read anyone here saying different.

2) 'keep your hands off my kids' is not to say that anyone believes homosexuality is a contageous disease but heterosexuals generally do not want our school policy, public policy, private business policy to be dictated to by the militant gay community.

hmmm..try again

re: #89 Eowyn2

Amen sister

re: #73 insanity police

Ahmadinejad Seeks to Soothe Critics

Huh? Could have fooled me. I don't feel soothed.

He's just like a nice hot bubblebath.

re: #87 Dianna

I went through quite a few revisions myself. :)

[Link: atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com...]

good coverage

re: #55 winston06

re: #22 mama winger

re: #19 winston06

I m very upset! Why did you, Americans, allow this to happen? :-(

Are you Iranian, my friend?

Yes, I am an Iranian living in Canada... IN EXILE, away from my loved ones... I am so upset, so angry, so sad...

Salam Alakem, holly showma chitori, (pardon the transliteration) we must at times tolerate displays such as this. While I wish Columbia would not have invited him, hearing him and the response of the audience is most instructive.

The worst effect is that it is propaganda for him to use at home and in the Islamic World, that many in the heart of the "Great Satan" are sympathetic to his goals.

re: #89 Eowyn2

re: #65 sneaky

You may have mis-understood just a bit.

1) Everyone has the right to be gay. I havent read anyone here saying different.

2) 'keep your hands off my kids' is not to say that anyone believes homosexuality is a contageous disease but heterosexuals generally do not want our school policy, public policy, private business policy to be dictated to by the militant gay community.

Some of us who are, don't want school policy, public policy, private business policy to be dictated by the combative, narcissistic, members of our 'community'... either.

"We don’t have homosexuals freedom in Iran like you do in this country,..."

There.

Fixed it.

~Norsk Troll

Koskidz continue the praise...

Ahmadenijad @ Columbia: the Video

No wonder those that are beating the war drums against Iran didn't want Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to speak any place American might hear him. Thanks to Columbia University and CPAN he was heard by many. He sounds entirely to reasonable. Hearing his own word doesn't help the cause of demonizing him as a madman and the most recent Hitler. This is someone we definitely should be talking to. so in the interest of promoting peace and knowledge, I present these short excerpts from his talk at Columbia University today.

re: #65 sneaky

As for you not wanting them to touch your children: homosexuality isn't a disease. It cannot be spread by touch.

I thought being gay only happened to people for whom the antibiotics didn't work! ;)

re: #89 Eowyn2

re: #65 sneaky

You may have mis-understood just a bit.

1) Everyone has the right to be gay. I havent read anyone here saying different.

2) 'keep your hands off my kids' is not to say that anyone believes homosexuality is a contageous disease but heterosexuals generally do not want our school policy, public policy, private business policy to be dictated to by the militant gay community.

Exactly. Take a vote. I highly doubt "the 10%" chance of winning a vote in a democracy.

re: #83 right wing zephyr

Wonder where a female, lesbian, Jewish ex-Muslim fits in the human rights heirarchy in Iran?

When we start seeing more US politicians that put American's before political correctness then this will start to be a much better world.

re: #98 Killgore Trout

Gee. Thanks. Now I'm even more depressed about the future of this country than I was this morning.

The enemy is the one that spoke at the school today...not a lizard.

re: #101 Eowyn2

Probably right below 'rotted meat'...

re: #103 FlyingTigress

Buck up, this is great publicity for us. Wait until Dkos endorses the Democratic presidential nominee and all these diaries will campaign ads for Repulicans.

Six people complained of a burning sensation in their eyes, difficulty breathing and sickness after using the elevator at the Afula Interior Ministry building on Monday.

Police and fire fighting crews rushed to scene and evacuated dozens of people from the building.

After an initial investigation police believe the substance that caused the reaction was a type of tear gas.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

re: #96 FlyingTigress

re: #89 Eowyn2

re: #65 sneaky
You may have mis-understood just a bit.

1) Everyone has the right to be gay. I havent read anyone here saying different.

2) 'keep your hands off my kids' is not to say that anyone believes homosexuality is a contageous disease but heterosexuals generally do not want our school policy, public policy, private business policy to be dictated to by the militant gay community.

Some of us who are, don't want school policy, public policy, private business policy to be dictated by the combative, narcissistic, members of our 'community'... either.

Thats why I put in "militant gay community" rather than gay community. I have gay friends and acquaintences and relatives. Some are liberal and some are conservative. I am not embarrassed by their relationships. Love is precious. It should never be vilified.

*chuckling*

'You're a petty, cruel tyrant'

I would bet...no one ever said that to him!...and lived...I loved it. [Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

re: #108 Eowyn2

then is there a difference between the "militant community" and "gay militant community"?

re: #105 FlyingTigress

So, it would take 548 female, lesbian, Jewish ex-Muslim's to equal the truthiness of a male muslim?

I am not embarrassed by their relationships. Love is precious. It should never be vilified.
how do you say I love you to a hairy arse hole?
jus/sayin

So to stop homosexuality the Iranian Vice & Virtue squad runs around grabbing homosexuals and ... raping them? Must be some more of that good 'ole islamic logic.

Incredibly powerful videos.

I was struck by the inherent dangers of residing within Iran while being gay. The risk undertaken by the Rights people is admirable, even though I fear little will come of their struggle in this current climate of hostility.

If people were nearly as vociferous in their denunciations of Iranian actions as they were with any act/statement associated with the U.S., this madness would come sooner to an end. Unfortunately, I see little relief in the foreseeable future.

Member of Parliament (Majlis) Mostafa Mohammadi said on Monday that the US President George Bush and his country may face the fate of Saddam Hossein and Communism.

Mohammadi added that the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei's remarks calling for trial of Bush were similar to the late Imam Khomeini's message to former Russian president Gorbachev.

Condemning the US action in branding the Islamic Revolution's Guards Corps (IRGC) as a terrorist group, he said that all nations know which countries support state terrorism.

[Link: www2.irna.com...]

He denies the Holocaust happened, why wouldn't he deny that there are gays in Iran?

This is the kind of guy that would piss on your leg, smile at you, and claim its raining.

Let's not look at what he's saying, but rather what he's doing.

Is he allowing international nuclear inspectors to examine his so-called "peaceful use" nuclear sites?

re: #115 St. Pancake

St. Pancake...where ya been?

re: #111 hans ze beeman

re: #108 Eowyn2

then is there a difference between the "militant community" and "gay militant community"?

After perusing some of Zombies photo shoots, I'd say NO. Maybe the militant gay community has a better appearance, dress nicer, are cleaner than some of the others:)

Is there any particular reason why the two gay rights leaders shown in the video chose Canada as their refuge country? Is there a gay thing that I'm not getting?

re: #113 hayseed

love and sex are not mutually inclusive.

I have 4 gay friends. They are all affluent and intelligent. I trust them with my kids. They also know that they are an exception rather than the rule and they despise gays who use the term "breeders".

I think you are who you are, faults and strengths. That doesn't mean that you ever try to force others to be like you. Not ever.

The progressive fools applaud the very man who would have them executed with a smile and a wink - and manage to ridicule those who stand against him. I cannot fathom what sort of twisted logic you need to embrace a murderous madman like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad.

re: #38 Spiritualized

But...but...but the Rethuglicans won't allow gays to get married which is exactly the same as executing them, if you think about it.

/Moonbat moral equivocation.

Shows that you know. The Moonbats think it's worse than executing them.

And if that doesn't frighten you, why the hell doesn't it?

important

No Submission dba Urban Infidel has her photos up. And there are some good ones.
[Link: urbaninfidel.blogspot.com...]

re: #110 storagemanager

'You're a petty, cruel tyrant'

I would bet...no one ever said that to him!...and lived...I loved it. [Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

I'm guessing the apology roses have already been delivered.

Now watch the lie...

Despite entire US media objections, negative propagation and hue and cry in recent days over IRI President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's scheduled address at Colombia University, he gave his lecture and answered students questions here on Monday afternoon.

On second day of his entry in New York, and amid standing ovation of the audience that had attended the hall where the Iranian President was to give his lecture as of early hours of the day, Ahmadinejad said that Iran is not going to attack any country in the world.

Before President Ahamadinejad's address, Colombia University Chancellor in a brief address told the audience that they would have the chance to hear Iran's stands as the Iranian President would put them forth.

He said that the Iranians are a peace loving nation, they hate war, and all types of aggression.

No word on this...

'You're a petty, cruel tyrant'

[Link: www2.irna.com...]

Howdy hayseed!

I was on for a bit on Sat. The beginning of the school year has been strange, but life is slowly getting back to normal.

First two weeks of school:

1. Open House
2. Getting body back on work hours
3. Finding out a former student was murdered by a sex offender-no body located yet.
3. Transmission died on car, and replaced it.

Blah, blah
Not a good opening for me.

This is climbing the rec list at DKos...
How Much Should We Hate Gays?

Ohhh, I see. Ahmadinejad is bad because his country kills gays. Ohhh. (By the way, Newt, Ahmadinejad was elected... unlike our own President) So that answers that. You can hate gays, but you shouldn't kill them.

What's OK then? Waterboarding? No? Well how about denying them equal rights under the law? Converting them to being straight? Telling them being gay is a choice and therefore immoral? Kicking them out of your family? Forcing them to hide their sexualities and only look for sex and love in secret? Making them resign from the Senate?
...
How can you demonize another country for its crimes against gays, journalists, and students when your own country does the same things in its own way?

Moral equivalence gone awry.

re: #129 St. Pancake

Howdy. How you been?

re: #126 pat

cool, i've been waiting all day

re: #130 Killgore Trout

This is climbing the rec list at DKos...
How Much Should We Hate Gays?

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How can you demonize another country for its crimes against gays, journalists, and students when your own country does the same things in its own way?

Moral equivalence gone awry.

thats just bizarre.

.re: #108 Eowyn2

Precisely. They tend to mess things up for the rest of us, in the process of getting attention... For example, say, The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence -- who REALLY p_ss me off -- even if I hadn't been baptized/confirmed as a Catholic (which I was).

re: #112 Eowyn2

At least.

re: #113 hayseedre: #108 Eowyn2

You say it to the same place... to their face

OT More Pakistanis Arrested in Maryland

This makes 39 indictments. Will the Islamophobia never end? "FBI arrests six more Pakistan-origin suspects on charges of money laundering,"

The US Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) has arrested six more suspects of Pakistani origin from Maryland on charges of money laundering.

On Thursday, 11 suspects were arrested in Maryland, including nine illegal immigrants from Pakistan. On the same day, US federal officials had indicted 39 people, including some Pakistani operators of convenience stores in Eastern Shore communities, the Dawn reported.

More at Jihad Watch

President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad expounded on important international and regional issues in a speech given to academics at the prestigious University of Columbia in New York on Monday
The following is the full text og President's speech:
In the name of God, the compassionate, the merciful...

The president recites verses from the holy Koran in Arabic.

"Oh, God, hasten the arrival of Imam al-Mahdi and grant him good health and victory and make us his followers and those to attest to his rightfulness."
Distinguished Dean, dear professors and students, ladies and gentlemen, at the outset I would like to extend my greetings to all of you. I am grateful to the almighty God for providing me with the opportunity to be in an academic environment, those seeking truth and striving for the promotion of science and knowledge.

[Link: www2.irna.com...]

re: #130 Killgore Trout

Oh brother.

i'm off to urban infidel
have a good night

Do you think thats why Billary denied being a lesbian last week?
She and dinner jacket had their talking points ironed out ahead of time?

Howdy Troutster
See # 129

Hope your kids are doing ok. Mine are great, thankfully. I could not take any more crap now.
My murdered student's family is from Iran. Brilliant young lady who was planning on becoming a neurosurgeon.

Brother is a senior at Harvard, and he is planning on entering law school.

Clinton campaign kills negative story in GQ

/Free Speech they cry!

re: #138 song_and_dance_man

Not entirely.

re: #134 FlyingTigress

An arsehole by any other name is still an arsehole.

re: #138 song_and_dance_man

More evidence here, here and here.

Oh my, Hans

Where did you find that?

Ew!

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would have been a lot more accurate if he said there are no Gays in Iraq. They've really had the snot beaten out of them
in the post-war period, many by Mahmouds own fellow Shia kinsmen...

re: #141 St. Pancake

I'm so sorry to hear that. Very tragic.

re: #146 St. Pancake

Just googled a bit, Dinnerjacket seems to indulge in multiple... adventures, especially with crooks and dictators.

re: #149 song_and_dance_man

Eww

re: #141 St. Pancake

a friend of mine daughter was raped and killed at Ohio state 12 years ago, the guy just now was convicted. just happened to get caught in a dna test.

re: #130 Killgore Trout

Typical childish tantrum from an autistic koskid.

Screw you, Ahmandinnerjacketjihad.

What, are we supposed to be embarassed about having a small percentage of gay people in our population (just like everyone else--whether they admit it or not)?
Are we supposed to be ashamed of not killing them?
I fully support gay rights, and I pray they Iranian gay community makes some headway in their fight for rights.
Honestly, are there any conservatives here that "hate" gay people? All I see is lizards critizing the middle east for the way they treat homosexuals (which leads me to conclude that they don't hate them at the very least).

This is her, Trout

Truly a beautiful Iranian young lady.

re: #153 Cobra

re: #130 Killgore Trout

Typical childish tantrum from an autistic koskid.

Hey, please don't insult autistic people that way. The autistic people I know (I was self-diagnosed autistic for a long while, just because I share an insane amount in common with them... I have neurological issues, but not autism. Just seems so) are conservative. They don't have irrational tantrums, it is due to a difficulty in processing reality, in short, not a "childish tantrum").

hayseed
Thanks, but the terrible thing is the perp drove across the country in his vehicle. He says he has no clue where she is now. Her body could be anywhere between the Pacific, the desert, or in the Gulf of Mexico. The idiot was on crack, when apprehended.

"Sigh"

This is not a dialogue with the president of Iran about gays, it is a confrontation of an evil regime and their totalitarian rule. They make the rules and they will lie about their implementation of same. Dinnerjacket's responses were nothing more than swatting away flies buzzing someone enjoying a picnic lunch. The moonbats fail to "see" the big picture and welcome the role of flies. Maybe the required reading of our collegiate brethren should be "The Lord Of The Flies".

What Islam doesn't have is any relationship to reality, tolerance or compassion.

re: #130 Killgore Trout

Typical childish tantrum from an autistic asshole koskid.

re: #155 St. Pancake

Unimaginable that somebody would destroy such beauty.

161 Killgore Trout

I know.

Thanks.

No help for her parents. Her dad cannot even function right now, much less work. Brother left summer school to look. She has been missing since June 23rd.

Just terrible.

Dinner Jacket is part of a religion that is almost always wrong. I say almost because I don't know everything about it. But if you were anti-gay knowing he was anti-gay should force you to reconsider.

“We don’t have homosexuals in Iran like you do in this country,”

Hey we may have shortchanged this guy. I just found a transcript of the actual speech...it seems he actually said

“We don’t have homosexuals in Iran like you do in this country, not that there is anything wrong with that."

re: #156 MattMacD

"Autism is a brain development disorder characterized by impairments in social interaction and communication, and restricted and repetitive behavior, all exhibited before a child is three years old."

Pretty much describes the KosKrowd.
However, I do apologise for the unintended offense.

Personally I can't find homosexuality immoral:

1. It's not a "choice." Many gays report feeling "different" from others of their sex even before puberty, and they can't help feeling attracted to people of their own sex anymore than straight people can help being attracted to people of the opposite sex.

2. It's between 2 consenting adults.

3. The human race is in no danger of extinction from gay people not having babies.

4. You can't "spread" homosexualty. It's not a contagious disease. There's no "gay germ."

5. Homosexuals are no more likely to touch your children with sexual intent than heterosexuals. The priests who molest altar boys are not gay, they are pedophiles. Male pedophiles just find it easier to gain access to young boys than to young girls.

6. Saying "what they do with each other is disgusting" is not an argument for immorality. I find the thought of really old people or Dan and Roseanne together disgusting, but that doesn't make it immoral.

The emphasis on multiple partners and shallow, sex-based relationships that is quite prevalent particularly in the male gay community, I do find immoral, for the same reasons I find the same behavior in the straight community immoral. However, men are naturally polygamous, so when you have men with men as opposed to men with naturally monogamous women, it's more difficult to put a check on such behavior. Seems to me efforts by gay men to rise above their polygamous impulses and commit themselves to one person should be encouraged, actually.

re: #156 MattMacD

"Hey, please don't insult autistic people that way."

I'm with you. Neurological glitches abound even when they don't rise to the level of 'syndromes'. I love what the brilliant Neurologist Oliver Sachs had to say about people suffering neurological disorders: " 'They' are us. "

For anyone uninformed &/or insensitive enough to squawk about me being 'too sensitive' on this subject .. try living w/a neurological disorder in yourself or a child (for even 5 minutes) and get back to me.

How can you demonize another country for its crimes against gays, journalists, and students when your own country does the same things in its own way?
Moral equivalence gone awry.

How can you demonize your own country for it's crimes (even if fictional) against homosexuals without demonizing Iran for it's blatant crimes against homosexuals?
Where the heck is their logic?
The Left is gunna get me killed!

Power to the Correct People!

re: #85 m

re: #65 sneaky

I'm with you. My best friend is a gay man, who takes care of his 2 nieces and a nephew because their straight momma would rather do crack. He's the best thing that ever happened to those kids.

Gay does not equal pedophile.

But sometimes it does.

Wanted to add on the baby thing ... would anyone call a man with good, healthy sperm immoral for wanting to marry a woman who cannot have children?

re: #108 Eowyn2

re: #96 FlyingTigress

re: #89 Eowyn2

re: #65 sneaky

You may have mis-understood just a bit.
1) Everyone has the right to be gay. I havent read anyone here saying different.
2) 'keep your hands off my kids' is not to say that anyone believes homosexuality is a contageous disease but heterosexuals generally do not want our school policy, public policy, private business policy to be dictated to by the militant gay community.

Some of us who are, don't want school policy, public policy, private business policy to be dictated by the combative, narcissistic, members of our 'community'... either.

Thats why I put in "militant gay community" rather than gay community. I have gay friends and acquaintences and relatives. Some are liberal and some are conservative. I am not embarrassed by their relationships. Love is precious. It should never be vilified.

In America, we tolerate a lot of lifestyles and by and large, most people really, genuinely, don't care who you have sex with, just don't rub it in our faces. I don't want to discuss my sex life with you, don't discuss your sex life with me, and we'll all get along just fine. I think it's totally fair. But the militant gay do demand -- demand -- that we greet them with open arms and say it's all ok, we'll tolerate anything and anyone. Well, we very nearly do. And it's killing us. And I don't mean gayness, so stop right there.

Not enough gay groups are denouncing anonymous, un-protected sex among themselves. Wait. I don't think there are any TV ad dollars being spent on that message, is there. (I'm not talking about people who catch it without high risk behaviour, of course.)

No sane, decent person of any type seeks the persecution of gays in America. Please read that sentence carefully before yelling at me. In America, while not perfection, it is light years ahead of Iran. And in the military, most straight soldiers also don't care as long as you pull your own weight and soldier on -- and just don't tell them your sex prefs.

There are many devoted, patriotic, brave and self-sacrificing gays who serve in our military and willingly go along with don't ask, don't tell. It's not gay nirvana, but it is a reasonable compromise. And they know it is far and away better than many other countries on this planet.

re: #166 Tigger2005

Well said, bravo.

Hey gang, I got back from my activist activities a couple of hours ago - went to all three demonstrations - and I'm exhausted. Me and nyc redneck went to Ground Zero this morning and the first thing that struck me was the real live true diversity of the crowd. It was the smallest of the demonstrations, but it was remarkable how many different kinds of people - black, white , Spanish, Jewish, Christian, blue collar, white collar - all came together with one voice and were united by their fierce devotion to this country. It was beautiful, really, and I'm not ashamed to admit I teared up a time or two, especially when some groups of uniformed soldiers walked by and the U-S-A chant went up.
The Un and Columbia both had much bigger turn-outs and both were very cool also. We met a lot of great patriotic people and I got to yell at a moonbat. another interesting thing - At all 3 rallies people were giving away buttons and posters and literature and flags - at Columbia the moonbats were SELLING these items.

re: #170 Tigger2005

Wanted to add on the baby thing ... would anyone call a man with good, healthy sperm immoral for wanting to marry a woman who cannot have children?

I would not
Love can make up for alot

re: #165 Cobra

re: #156 MattMacD

"Autism is a brain development disorder characterized by impairments in social interaction and communication, and restricted and repetitive behavior, all exhibited before a child is three years old."

Pretty much describes the KosKrowd.
However, I do apologise for the unintended offense.

If you simplify it hugely. Even autistic children (what you are meaning here) aren't stupid the way those guys are. I'm quite sure many on the left are very socially capable (better to manipulate people into following their insane views). But even if they are the same, autistic children are not that way by choice, the far-left (or, centre-left, these days) people are.

And hey, autistic children can't talk (the vast majority of the time). If they were the same in that regard, I think we'd all be very grateful. Sadly, the far-left is perfectly capable of talking. So you'd be comparing them to autistic adults, who typically can talk - but are in no way similar to the people at kos. Despite appearing to be uncaring people, autistic people actually do care, and do have a conscience. They are just no good at expressing/acting on it.

Btw, I wasn't really angry when I made the comment, just didn't like the misunderstanding of autism.

I found that CBC coverage fascinating . . . the young people were articulate, well-dressed and passionate - like kids I would find at the coffee house down the street. Kids I would have hung out with in college.

Made me sad - for all those young people involved, and for their families.

re: #9 Sevoguy

You have far more to fear from the closet-cases thumping their bibles than you do from anyone who's out and not ashamed of their orientation.

-jcr

How do you say, "Not that there's anything wrong with it." in Farsi.

ot, i just got up from my nap after spending the whole day protesting the racist,bigot, holocaust denier, war criminal, terror monger, genocider supporter and now speaker at columbia. we had a sm but enthusiastic group at ground zero beginning at 9:30 am. no submission snapping photos, lots of pedestrians stopping to check out why we were so enthisiastic and we were. only one crazy moonbat from germany, she said she thought dinner jacket was an ok guy, (of course she did, they tend to love little dictators). i loved being there. this pro-america bunch at gz consisted of a really diverse group. a little old black lady abt 80, cute as a little bird. she had no upper teeth which did not stop her from hollerin' down the dumb german. several big construction worker types. spanish people, jewish people. i met dan from gathering of eagles. pamela from atlas was there. we headed up to the un abt noon. this was a well attended gathering. so many people, many jewish. curtis sliwa spoke, loudly. ha. and well, lots of israeli and american flags, lots of blue and white posters: CHRISTIANS UNITED FOR ISRAEL . also a sm group of pro american PERSIANS w/ the old persian flag, pre: l979. hope no sub got a photo of that old persian gal in the wheel chair, w/ the leopard cushion and both flags hooked on the back of her ride. she was a delight. we got up to columbia just before the runt finished his spew. i was amazed to see so many students at bdway and ll6st. mostly jewish but not all. some clever posters. not too many idiots, one old code pink type but doing the orange color for her hippie head band, she was so sour and bitter and angry. some students got up on each others shoulders and blocked her stupid banner w' the israeli flag. most of the pro america students were up beat and positive, no violence, one black moslem w/ a red beard threw a coke bottle at a guy who had a sign that said "scape goats no more" more smiles on the subway than frowns re: the two flags i carried, one sticking out of my purse, one held high in my hand. tho i did get a really big snear from a macho lesbian., i stared her down because we have already discussed her and how she could go straight for dinner jacket. there were some walled off hasidic jews who did not seem pro israel. east village infidel was a trooper and yelled at afew dingbats. i finally got a crimp cramp in my back from all the standing, but it was worth it. i guess i'm an activist now finally, at a time when it's do or die. can't wait for the photos from our ny documentarian, no submission.

re: #175 MattMacD

Duly noted.

re: #166 Tigger2005

I'm not sure I've ever seen that point of view put more eloquently - glad you posted.

re: #181 judymac

"hear, hear!"

It is an abbreviation for "hear, all ye good people, hear what this brilliant and eloquent speaker has to say!"

re: #180 Cobra

re: #175 MattMacD

Duly noted.

Okay, good good. :) Sorry if I seem a little bit uptight about the issue. :p

re: #166 Tigger2005

What is more the issue to me is the Iranian vice & virtue squad claiming to be ultimate authority on morality yet as the one guy stated in the video they rape homosexuals they catch. Secondly how can anybody knowing this still show deference to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's faux piety about how he cannot tell a lie [just a regular George Washington].

Wookielips,

As lizards, we're often labeled as being racist, sexist, homophobic and intolerant.

Because we are often intolerant of willful ignorance, perhaps we do deserve that last epithet; though I think that anyone with a modicum of common sense would recognize there is a difference between not suffering fools gently and demanding that, in the pursuit of intelligent discourse, one would expect both sides of a debate arrive armed.

Though not suffering fools is the safer route.

I'm constantly amazed at the numbers of folks that believe that lizards are racist, sexist, or homophobic. It's been my personal experience that conservatives (and libertarians) exhibit MORE tolerance and understanding than those that claim more liberal leaning views.

I've witnessed people who claim to be staunch liberals saying and doing things that I would never consider; even with my inside voice. Mean, spiteful things, as a matter of inconsequential discussion.

"You don't think that name sounds too black, do you?" - A soon-to-be grandmother wondering about potential names for her granddaughter.

At a nearby amusement park - "It's much quieter when there aren't any black people around" - from a woman who was proud to note that she was a lesbian AND a Bush Hater (go figure).

A gay man, proud Kucinich supporter, in describing his loathing for customers in his store as "sand n***s" or "K***y K***nsteins". In a Che Guevara t-shirt no less.

How does one respond to that? "Boy, you're just a bastion of tolerance, huhn?". You jump in their shit and they look at you like you've got a third eye. They don't seem to understand why they've just been called a dumb motherfucker.

But WE get tarred with the racist brush. Go figure. Free Speech? Well, yes, the government can't stop you from being a gaping asshole. But you still are, if that's the way you want to act.

I recognize the tactic; it's classic doublespeak. Accuse others of being and doing the very things that you are and do. It's projection.

Liberals fear what conservatives may do, because they would behave that way if they had the chance. Conservatives fear what liberals will do, because they've SEEN how they behave when they do get the chance.

THAT'S the difference.

re: #166 Tigger2005

Very well put concerning the rampant, indiscriminate sex gay men tend to have, especially without protection. (Um, everyone, with gay friends, just some friendly advice: don't let a gay man or woman kiss you on the lips. Hug, peck the cheek, hug again, no worries. Just avoid the lips. Sad, but true. Search the internet and you'll reach TMI pretty fast. Dang.)

Ahmadinejad: In America they have women who place their mouths on another womans private parts.

Rafsanjani: Really? What do they call these people?

Ahmadinejad: They are called Lesbians. They also have, in America, men who place their mouths on another mans private parts.

Rafsanjani: Seriously brother Mahmoud? What do you call them?

Ahmadinejad: When I catch my breath, I call 'em "Precious".

re: #19 winston06

I m very upset! Why did you, Americans, allow this to happen? :-(

I'm an American, I am upset too, and I don't know why we did this. If it was to be "better" than that Iranian pos it wasn't a good reason.

Was anyone else thinking why wasn't GLAAD, every gay celebrity, just about every other gay rights group in North America there protesting this guy?

re: #166 Tigger2005

From another thread:

I started out as a believer. I ridiculed atheists. Never was an orthodox Christian, but had absolutely no doubt of the existence of God. My move toward agnosticism and then atheism was an often painful exercise in intellectual self-honesty.

Believers in Yeshua don't ridicule anyone because they themselves are convicted sinners, each and every one, covered in His blood. “Judge not, that you be not judged." - Matthew 7:1

Christians don't pray for homosexuals to be heterosexual, they pray for them to be holy.

re: #184 Roger

[just a regular George Washington].

I thought that too. He's got some marketing team working behind the scenes!

No homosexuals in Iran... I beg to differ...

Lipsmack here
here
and
here

re: #9 Sevoguy

You want to be gay, so be it. Just don't touch my children. That is all I ask.

Living in the people's republic of MA, I see firsthand, the militant gay agenda in our public schools. For instance, "How to" books distributed to kids...

Sponsored by the Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network, the event, said the Article 8 Alliance, featured a "hard-core pornographic homosexual 'how-to' booklet given to hundreds of kids."

"The book was prominently distributed at the first table, right after registration, where everyone would be sure to go," the group states on its website.

The booklet, entitled "The Little Black Book – Queer in the 21st Century," contains what the activist group calls "deadly misinformation on health."

Included in the booklet are graphic descriptions of homosexual conduct, including "fisting," along with a photo-spread discussion of condoms and instructions on how to put them on.

re: #193 daughter of patriots

re: #9 Sevoguy

You want to be gay, so be it. Just don't touch my children. That is all I ask.

Living in the people's republic of MA, I see firsthand, the militant gay agenda in our public schools. For instance, "How to" books distributed to kids...

Sponsored by the Gay Lesbian Straight Education Network, the event, said the Article 8 Alliance, featured a "hard-core pornographic homosexual 'how-to' booklet given to hundreds of kids."

"The book was prominently distributed at the first table, right after registration, where everyone would be sure to go," the group states on its website.

The booklet, entitled "The Little Black Book – Queer in the 21st Century," contains what the activist group calls "deadly misinformation on health."

Included in the booklet are graphic descriptions of homosexual conduct, including "fisting," along with a photo-spread discussion of condoms and instructions on how to put them on.

That's absolutely disgusting.

But I don't think it's comparable to the Iranian government hanging people for being gay.

re: #166 Tigger2005

Great post

re: #193 daughter of patriots

You know, I believe that must be the fringe element.I think, like straight people, most gay people just want to live their lives and be left alone. All that crap is highly unlikely to turn someone else gay that is not in the first place.

re: #63 Eowyn2

re: #47 zombie

The last time I was on Kos, there was some person trying to say that the Jews created the cold war and after the fall of the berlin wall, well, the Jews knew that america needed a new enemy so they latched on to the whole 'evil terrorist' muslim entity. It was bizarre. Nothing about Berlin 1972.

I think you may have meant
Munich Massacre 1972 Olympics - Wikipedia
Who murdered the athletes of the Israeli 1972 Olympic Team in Munich? - Palestinefacts

re: #47 zombie

Combine all that with this "humor" post at Kos:

Republicans hail Ahmadinejad for gay-free Iran
AP -- New York -- Leading Republicans excoriated Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad today for what it characterized as threatening statements against Israel, for denying the historical veracity of the Holocaust, and for pursuing nuclear weapons for Iran, but reserved praise for Ahmadinejad's claim that Iran does not have any homosexuals.

"Much as I think the little bugger is a raving lunatic," said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, "and as much as I think we need to bomb his country into miniscule, carbonized fragments as soon as humanly possible, it is quite a pleasing revelation to hear that his country has managed to solve the G-A-Y problem. Huzzah, Mahmoud. Huzzah indeed."

Except, you see, none of that really happened. Well, it shoulda happened, in a truth-y sort of way, except that in reality it didn't.

What happened in reality was that the denizens of Kos practically vote to make Ahmadinejad president of the US, and "progressives" cheered him when he spoke to them in NY. While us "neo-cons" condemned his every gesture, every syllable.

That's right, you disgusting Kossacks, look deeply into the mirror: it is YOU that are validating this guy, it is YOU that are applauding his message, it is YOU that are responsible for the relentless brutal massacre of gays in Iran. And all your snarky phony news stories will never change that.

Wisdom for the ages, zombie. Thank you.

Thanks for the link. I watched it and now I'm sending it onward and outward.

That should be required viewing for every moonbat and every college student.

While liberals pride themselves for being the champions of tolerance, how do they respond when other cultures denigrate women and homosexuals? It is wonderful to watch this cognitive dissonance unfold. At what point do liberals start making objective determinations of right and wrong? At what point do liberals say that burying a 16-year-old girl to her neck in dirt, and subsequently stoning her to death is not an acceptable form of cultural expression?

Ironically, liberals consider conservatives evil because many conservatives support the military’s don’t ask, don’t tell policy. Yet, it is amazing that these same liberals are apathetic when Iran hangs, stones, and beheads homosexuals. Moreover, Iran is one of the few Countries in the World that executes children.

When confronted with this clear hypocrisy, liberals simply resort to bashing President Bush. If they don’t attack Bush, they attack America for being an evil Country. I am telling you, these people have been totally brainwashed by their indoctrination universities.

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I m very upset! Why did you, Americans, allow this to happen? :-(

Are you Iranian, my friend?

Yes, I am an Iranian living in Canada... IN EXILE, away from my loved ones... I am so upset, so angry, so sad...

Salam Alakem, holly showma chitori, (pardon the transliteration) we must at times tolerate displays such as this. While I wish Columbia would not have invited him, hearing him and the response of the audience is most instructive.

The worst effect is that it is propaganda for him to use at home and in the Islamic World, that many in the heart of the "Great Satan" are sympathetic to his goals.

Your persian is fine. Man Khubam. Merci.

My headache has got worse since this morning due to this ugly madman speech at Columbia Univ.

Any ways, I want the US to help us free our country, even if it means BOMBING the regime. I am okay with it.

1. It's not a "choice." Many gays report feeling "different" from others of their sex even before puberty, and they can't help feeling attracted to people of their own sex anymore than straight people can help being attracted to people of the opposite sex.

For some, being "gay" is a "choice". To flat out state that it isn't a choice for all those exercising their sexual preference for those of the same sex is simply arrogant. Don't lump them all into one category. Some do make a conscious "choice" to be gay.

My brother-in-law is a perfect example. A wonderful guy but it was a "choice" he made.

re: #32 Killian Bundy

Iranian General: U.S. Troops in Iraq and Afghanistan Are Within Iran's Firing Range

/whistling past the graveyard

Pretty tough talk considering that once the shooting started, the bullets would be flying both ways, isn't it?

re: #203 Maui Girl

1. It's not a "choice." Many gays report feeling "different" from others of their sex even before puberty, and they can't help feeling attracted to people of their own sex anymore than straight people can help being attracted to people of the opposite sex.

For some, being "gay" is a "choice". To flat out state that it isn't a choice for all those exercising their sexual preference for those of the same sex is simply arrogant. Don't lump them all into one category. Some do make a conscious "choice" to be gay.

My brother-in-law is a perfect example. A wonderful guy but it was a "choice" he made.

This is semantics.

You can choose who you engage in (consentual) sexual behavior with, but you can't choose who you are attracted to. In other words, you can choose your sexual partners, but you can't choose your sexual preference.

Its certainly possible to engage in sexual behavior that falls outside your sexual preference (eg there are no sexually available members of the opposite gender). Its also possible to be sexually indiscriminate or pan-sexual. Presumeably your brother-in-law likes having sex with *somebody*.

Now, if you mean by "gay" adopting an openly/overtly homosexual lifestyle (with mannerisms, dress, etc), sure, that's a choice.