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George Soros and His Campaign to Buy the US Presidency

Wed, Sep 26, 2007 at 8:43:45 am PDT

Investor’s Business Daily has an excellent series of articles on George Soros and his political hit team, MoveOn.org: George Soros & MoveOn.org.

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1 Ben Hur  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:45:19am

The GOP is the party of the rich.

2 wargammer2005  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:45:19am

as i keep saying, the Left is a greater threat to the freedoms we have in the US than all the terrorists combined

3 SonOfLiberty  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:45:40am

But... but... Halliburton did this already! And so did Enron! And Jews!

4 insanity police  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:45:48am

Soros the scumbag makes me sick!

5 mglazer  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:46:25am

Posh Dinner for Lib Elites with dinner Jacket

[Link: www.time.com...]

6 bofh  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:46:38am

Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain...

7 daughter of patriots  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:46:59am

This man is the epitomy of the insidiousness of evil.

8 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:47:25am

soros is a cancer trying to spread through the American body politic.

9 SpartanWoman  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:48:12am

re: #2 wargammer2005

as i keep saying, the Left is a greater threat to the freedoms we have in the US than all the terrorists combined

The bigger problem is that they work hand in glove to undermine the nation and achieve some socialist/anarchist amalgam.

10 MandyManners  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:48:22am

I've been wondering what can be done about this gutter-sucker but, I'll shut up now 'cause my suggestions would raise Charles' BP very quickly and very high.

11 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:49:02am

re: #8 Sharmuta

Using only his Left Hand.

12 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:49:02am

re: #1 Ben Hur

The GOP is the party of the rich.

And fire cant melt steel.

13 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:49:39am

I keep expecting Soros to burst into maniacal laughter during some interview and exclaim, "no, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die! muuaahahahaha!".

14 Psycotte  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:49:39am

We have Rove...

They have Soros...

We still win. :)

15 phoenixgirl  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:50:21am

the left are the useful idiots of the terrorists

16 JammieWearingFool  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:50:59am

Why is this enemy not deported?

17 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:52:02am

I'd call George Soros a clown but that what be an affront to the profession of absurdly dressed comedic performers. Perhaps he is just an idiot?

18 tfc3rid  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:52:07am

I've always said that George Soros is a very dangerous man... His plan is to take down the US dollar and it would not surprise me that he and his cronies have a hand in the current deflation of the American dollar versus the Euro.

19 Ben Hur  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:52:07am

You guys always blame der Juden...


Wait a sec...

20 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:52:08am

re: #16 JammieWearingFool

Why is this enemy not deported?

He'd get anyone who came after him fired.

21 chinesearithmetic  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:52:08am

#13 You're a woman of many parts, OR! (You're not?)

The Man Who Sored The World

22 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:52:14am

re: #16 JammieWearingFool

$$$

23 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:52:39am

Aw, don't be so hard on Mr. Soros - all he wants is THE BEST, MOST GOVERNMENT THAT MONEY CAN BUY.

-s-

24 Cygnus  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:53:06am

I wish that Soros would Move On. To another career. Maybe as a greeter at Wal-Mart.

25 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:53:41am
[Soros'] OSI partners with the Tides Foundation, which funnels cash from wealthy donors who may not want it known that their cash goes to fringe groups engaged in "direct action" — also known as eco-terrorism.

Okay. Then let's roll out those conspiracy indictments, please.

26 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:53:41am

Posted this last night...

#282 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet 9/25/07 9:08:18 pm reply quote report 1

IIRC, the Soros family was named 'Schwartz' (someone can check this), and when it became obvious that Hilter meant business, the family moved to a different city in Hungary, and assumed the name Soros and passed themselves as Gentile.

They did it so well, the actually had family vacations in Germany during the war.

If that was the only was Soros' father could save the family from the Holocaust, I can't blame him.

But it must have done something psychological, to live as pretend Gentiles, knowing enough about the persecution of Jews that the family assumed new names, and fit in with the Nazi supporting public.

27 wee fury  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:54:19am

Soros is already a rich and powerful person.
He wants more power . . . always more.
Dangerous man.

28 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:54:22am

re: #13 Occasional Reader

I keep expecting Soros to burst into maniacal laughter during some interview and exclaim, "no, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die! muuaahahahaha!".

I always picture him with a white long haired cat on his lap.

29 Sharmuta  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:54:26am

re: #15 phoenixgirl

the left are the useful idiots of the terrorists

No- some kosling told me the terrorists are the useful idiots of HaliBushCo.'s war machine. We're just not nuanced enough to get that.

30 zmdavid  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:55:05am

re: #3 SonOfLiberty

But... but... Halliburton did this already! And so did Enron! And Jews!


Ha. On a lark, I decided to google "Soros Haliburton" and "Soros Enron" and he was evidently connected to both.

31 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:56:20am

Nice, we have been talking about the little adolf for two days, now we can talk about the little lenin.

32 storagemanager  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:56:55am
They're the strong and the proud, but the Marines aren't free to stand on the streets of San Francisco.

The Silent Drill Platoon of the U.S. Marine Corps wasn't allowed to be filmed Sept. 11 on California Street in San Francisco for a segment of its new advertising campaign, a Marine spokesman told FOXNews.com.

Instead, the elite group took its austere display to the Golden Gate National Recreation Area for the final segment of its "America's Marines" TV commercial. The group is on a two-month nationwide tour as part of the campaign.

Stefanie Coyote, the executive director of the San Francisco Film Commission, the group that denied the permit, was unavailable for comment Tuesday. Her office referred calls to San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom's press office

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

33 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:58:08am

re: #26 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet


George Soros is the son of the Esperanto writer Teodoro Schwartz. Teodoro (also known as Tivadar) was a Hungarian Jew who was a prisoner of war during and after World War I and eventually escaped from Russia to rejoin his family in Budapest.[4]

The family changed its name in 1936 from Schwartz to Soros, in response to the Fascist threat to Jews. Tivadar liked the new name because it is a palindrome and because it has a meaning. Though the specific meaning is left unstated in Kaufmann's biography, in Hungarian "soros" means "next in line, or designated successor", and in Esperanto it means "will soar".[5] Tivadar wrote of his ordeal to survive in Fascist Hungary, and help many people escape it, in his book Maskerado. George Soros later said that he "grew up in a Jewish, anti-semitic home," and that his parents were "uncomfortable with their religious roots."[6]
From Wiki

34 NoSubmission  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:58:08am

Marxist Billionaire. Doesn't make any sense.

35 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:58:44am

re: #32 storagemanager

They're the strong and the proud, but the Marines aren't free to stand on the streets of San Francisco.
The Silent Drill Platoon of the U.S. Marine Corps wasn't allowed to be filmed Sept. 11 on California Street in San Francisco for a segment of its new advertising campaign, a Marine spokesman told FOXNews.com.

Instead, the elite group took its austere display to the Golden Gate National Recreation Area for the final segment of its "America's Marines" TV commercial. The group is on a two-month nationwide tour as part of the campaign.

Stefanie Coyote, the executive director of the San Francisco Film Commission, the group that denied the permit, was unavailable for comment Tuesday. Her office referred calls to San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom's press office


[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Maybe if they told the City Council they wanted to have Gay sex in a city park they could have gotten a permit.

Wait, what am I thinking? You dont need a permit for that in SF.

36 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 8:59:54am

re: #34 NoSubmission

Marxist Billionaire. Doesn't make any sense.

See my #33. He is a man in conflict, he hates himself. As a billionaire, the best way to hate himself is to be a Communist.

37 JamesTKirk  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:00:16am

re: #33 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Anyone related to Esperanto is evil.

38 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:00:16am

re: #18 tfc3rid

I've always said that George Soros is a very dangerous man... His plan is to take down the US dollar and it would not surprise me that he and his cronies have a hand in the current deflation of the American dollar versus the Euro.

"tfc" -

Been thinking the same - however - historic long term bettors against the USA and its economy have generally lost - BIG TIME.

-S-

39 Ziggy  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:00:17am

Drudge has a link to an IBD story about a Soros group, The Open Society Institute, paying $720,000 for the NASA "whistle blower" who accused the Bush administration of censoring him. This included legal and Media help. Soros is so slimy and deceitful I think he can be called evil.

40 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:00:42am

Breaking News: Soros's reaction to the articles

That makes me angry, and when George Soros gets angry, Mr. Bigglesworth gets upset, and when Mr. Bigglesworth gets upset people DIE!

41 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:00:50am
“If you can’t get your lips off the backside of George Soros long enough to use those lips to say it’s wrong to declare a sitting general ... guilty of treason, how would you ever expect to have the support of the very military you might have to send into deadly battle?”

Mike Huckabee on Hildebeast

42 Cap'n DOC  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:01:59am

re: #32 storagemanager

Stefanie Coyote - Barkin' MoonBat?

Most coyotes just bark at the moon. This one is fully-fledged.

43 Athos  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:02:24am

re: #38 Dr. Shalit

Hence the political aspect of the ploy this time.

44 Dianna  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:02:25am

Soros is going to be the destruction of the entire nonprofit sector, the good, the bad and the purely wooly-minded.

This is not a good thing.

45 Athos  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:05:09am

re: #36 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

It's clear that he thinks of himself as part of the .001% of the population who are more equal than the others - and positioned to lead in the Communistic society.

46 Dr. Shalit  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:05:38am

re: #33 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

"Ed"

In Yiddish, depending on pronunciation, "Soros" might just mean "trouble" - apropos, no?

-S-

47 grayp  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:05:38am

Soros was convicted in the UK for some sort of currency manipulation. Does anyone have details?

48 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:06:20am

re: #34 NoSubmission

Marxist Billionaire. Doesn't make any sense.

It makes a lot of sense, IMHO.
Marxism as an ideology sees humanity as a bunch of ants and so does this man who got rich causing financial troubles that involved tens of millions of people (attack against the British Pound).
Marxism is an elitist ideology that proclaims the right of the few and the chosen to lead the rest of the people, and that is very near to how this very rich person thinks about himself.

A good reading of the LETTERS of Karl Marx will give you a clear idea of the UNLIMITED pride and elitism of the guy, and little Karl was at least partially stupid, his followers are just fascist.

49 Athos  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:08:00am

re: #47 grayp

It was France, I believe. Soros Insider Trading Conviction Upheld in France

50 Mike McDaniel  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:08:02am

What this highlights is the REAL objective of the Left:

Making sure the rich and powerful STAY rich and powerful.

Think about it...the Left is very fond of taxes on income, but not on wealth. Eager to impose a mountain of regulations on new businesses, but not on old ones. And it's that way across the board - they are desperate to do ANYTHING that will protect their money, power, and privilege.

Kind of like the French aristocrats in the 1780s...

51 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:08:37am
Five members of the marginal terror group that took part in the kidnapping of an Israeli soldier were killed Wednesday afternoon in an Israeli airstrike in the Gaza Strip, Palestinian sources said.
According to the report, an Israeli aircraft targeted a jeep carrying members of the Army of Islam, a terror group implicated in the kidnapping of Corporal Gilad Shalit last year.

The jeep was driving in the Zeitoun neighborhood of Gaza City at the time of the blast.


Whooo-Hooo!
52 Leonidas Hoplite  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:08:37am

re: #34 NoSubmission

Actually it makes perfect sense...because he can afford to be. Kinda like Teddy Kennedy and John Kerry, who are more than willing to raise taxes on everyone else to fund their pet programs, because they know it won't affect their lives.

53 pat  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:09:12am

Soros is selling America short.

54 Dianna  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:09:13am

re: #30 zmdavid

There is no dirty business and no dirty deal Soros hasn't had a hand in.

55 easy  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:10:29am

He is dangerously insane.

It seems that Soros believes he was anointed by God. "I fancied myself as some kind of god ..." he once wrote. "If truth be known, I carried some rather potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise they might get me in trouble."

When asked by Britain's Independent newspaper to elaborate on that passage, Soros said, "It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out."

56 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:10:41am

re: #47 grayp

Soros was convicted in the UK for some sort of currency manipulation. Does anyone have details?

I know he got convicted for insider trading.

57 marwan's daughter  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:13:13am

Yeah so? We have rich right wing organizations that contribute to presidential campaigns as much as MoveOn.org contributes to democrats. It's just the wheels of democracy turning. I still don't see the big deal with this guy.

58 Dianna  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:13:14am

re: #34 NoSubmission

It makes perfect sense from where he's sitting; he's under the impression that he can control and manipulate the true believers. Perhaps he sees himself as an Alexei Tolstoi, who managed to not just survive, but thrive, as the "aristocratic Bolshevik".

I think he would be most genuinely (and unpleasantly, though briefly) surprised, should he succeed in engineering a takeover.

59 Athos  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:13:46am

re: #52 Leonidas Hoplite

Kennedy / Kerry count on the loopholes that they help place in the tax code. Like Kennedy's fascist old man who protected the bulk of the family wealth from inheritance taxes via trusts handled in Fiji. (Hmm, 50% tax on $500M...)

60 Dianna  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:14:42am

re: #37 JamesTKirk

Stalin would agree with you. There weren't that many Esperantists in Russia, but they pretty much all ended up in the Gulag.

61 grayp  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:16:45am

re: #49 Athos


Yes, there was that. But at P-L notes at #48, he tried to take out the Pound also - altho perhaps for that there was no conviction?

62 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:18:42am

So, Kos, how is it sucking on the Soros teat?

/i know, ewww!

63 CIA Reject  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:19:22am

re: #34 NoSubmission

Marxist Billionaire. Doesn't make any sense.

Actually it does make sense if you remember the real central tenent of marxism:

"All pigs are equal, but some pigs are more equal than others..."

64 Darwin Akbar  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:19:35am

re: #39 Ziggy

Drudge has a link to an IBD story about a Soros group, The Open Society Institute, paying $720,000 for the NASA "whistle blower" who accused the Bush administration of censoring him. This included legal and Media help. Soros is so slimy and deceitful I think he can be called evil.

Here is a Newsbusters link to this story:

[Link: newsbusters.org...]

for Soros, as all of these people, no matter what the question, the answer is 's always the same: Global Socialism, i.e., minimalize U.S. economic and military power (or that of any other independent Western society like Israel or the UK) in favor of world bodies such as the U.N.

Soros also owns "Sir" Mark Malloch Brown, former UN Grandee and shill for Kofi and the Oil-4-Food program, who blamed the UN's poor reputation in the US on Rush and Fox News. MMB lived rent-free on a Soros owned estate in Westchester County while at the UN and briefly went to work for a Soros fund before he (shudder) was invited to join Gordon Brown's Labor cabinet in the U.K. He also used to advocate the idea that the UK should surrender its seat on the Security Council to the "EU." A truly evil man.

65 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:19:52am

re: #13 Occasional Reader

I keep expecting Soros to burst into maniacal laughter during some interview and exclaim, "no, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die! muuaahahahaha!".

LOL. You expect that and I hear somewhere in my ears, "I have no political ambitions for myself or my children" said Joseph P. Kennedy.

66 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:20:12am

re: #57 marwan's daughter

Yeah so? We have rich right wing organizations that contribute to presidential campaigns as much as MoveOn.org contributes to democrats. It's just the wheels of democracy turning. I still don't see the big deal with this guy.

Name one, and their amounts. The thing with Soros is he is actively trying to hide how much he gives to these groups, so it can appear they have a larger base and they are all separate, when in fact they are all part of the same organization.

If you owned a business, then had a inspector show up about a complaint, then had 2-3 customers show up with additional complaints, then had a newspaper article written about how bad your business was, what would you think when you find out the inspector, the journalist and the complaining customer all got visits and a nice hefty check from your biggest competitor right before your trouble started? Thats George Soros right there.

67 Athos  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:22:42am

re: #61 grayp

Yes, he led an effort in 1993 (I think) to 'break' the Bank of England - 'betting' his investment house on a devaluing of the pound - and earning about $1B when the pound had to be devalued as a result of the currency speculation instigated by Soros. But I don't think that this action resulted in any criminal charges - apparently what he did was permitted in 'open markets'.

68 Occasional Reader  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:22:54am

re: #21 chinesearithmetic

You're a woman of many parts, OR! (You're not?)

Er, no... a quick review of my "parts" indicates that I'm no woman.

Anyway.

Apropos of nothing... for some reason the theme song from Goldfinger always, for me, ends up quickly morphing into "Moon River" in my head.

gold-FINGAH!
Wider than a mile...

69 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:25:32am
70 Mike42  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:26:21am

It's just possible that Soros is trying to have the opposite effect of what he's doing. Not that I have seen any evidence of that.

It's remarkable what one very evil man can accomplish...

-see Hitler, Stalin, Chengis Khan, Etc.

It's also remarkable what evil can be created by well-intentioned individuals...

71 Dianna  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:30:11am

re: #68 Occasional Reader

And here I thought I was the only one with that problem!

72 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:35:21am

re: #69 buzzsawmonkey

re: #69 buzzsawmonkey

Excellent...very excellent.

All these claims have been sympathetically received by the essentially areligious, or anti-religious, Western Left. Why should the Left, so unsympathetic to religion in Western society, be so ready to accept the religious, and ahistorical, claims of the Muslims? Because accepting these claims both undermines the concept of verifiable history, and undermines the Bible as a source of moral authority.

I have stated to my church members that if the "left" can undermine the scriptural claims of the Jews, Christianity has nothing left to stand on. I don't think even most practicing Christians understand the moral context of what the left is attempting to do.

73 Dianna  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:38:20am

There's an error in the second articleon the IDB page:

a symbolic vote in Congress censuring MoveOn.org for the Petraeus ad passed, but with the notable absence of both Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.

Hillary Clinton voted not to condemn the ad. See the record of the vote.

74 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:38:42am
75 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:39:21am

re: #57 marwan's daughter

Yeah so? We have rich right wing organizations that contribute to presidential campaigns as much as MoveOn.org contributes to democrats. It's just the wheels of democracy turning. I still don't see the big deal with this guy.

***
***

Hmmm, Really?... Can You tell us who they are, that contribute 'Millions' through subversive organizations like Move On. ? I would like to hear your list of them...

76 Dianna  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:41:58am

re: #75 BODYGUARDEAGLE

When you visit Open Secrets, you will see that Soros' behavior is unusual. Marwan's Daughter should spend about an hour looking through that site.

77 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:45:27am

re: #57 soros bot

Yeah so? We have rich right wing organizations that contribute to presidential campaigns as much as MoveOn.org contributes to democrats. It's just the wheels of democracy turning. I still don't see the big deal with this guy.

FROM THE ARTICLES WE ARE DISCUSSING:

Through networks of nongovernmental organizations, Soros intends to ruin the presidency of George W. Bush "by any legal means necessary" and knock America off its global pedestal. "His view of America is so negative," says Sen. Joe Lieberman, who, like Gen. David Petraeus, has been a target of Soros' electoral "philanthropy." "The places he's put his money are . . . so destructive that it unsettles me." Soros' aim seems to be to make the U.S. just another client state easily controlled by the United Nations and other one-world groups where he has lots of friends.


THE WHEELS OF DEMOCRACY ?
THE WHEELS OF SUBVERSION !

78 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:48:28am

re: #74 buzzsawmonkey

Have you ever given thought to composing articles not specifically for Jews but for Christians? I asked that because their is a dearth of really deep thinkers for a Christian audience. I am aware of only two and their style and message are far different than yours.

I'm not talking about debate or even faith. I'm talking about why the Old Testament is so relevant to today's Christians.

If you could speak half as well as you write, you would have a captive audience my friend.

79 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:49:26am

re: #76 Dianna

re: #75 BODYGUARDEAGLE

When you visit Open Secrets, you will see that Soros' behavior is unusual. Marwan's Daughter should spend about an hour looking through that site.

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Dianna,
Thanks for the link... I was just curious to see if marwan's daughter could name 'those she considers right wing' contributors, and the amounts as compared to soros and moveon. I think she is obviously lacking her morning coffee.

80 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:49:54am

OTHER WHEELS OF DEMOCRACY FOR OUR SOROS-BOT AT #57:

Soros' efforts go beyond spin. He has also bankrolled groups involved in the manipulation of elections, an activity that has increased since his money came into the picture. Two groups — Americans Coming Together and the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now — were sanctioned recently by the Federal Election Commission for fraud.

Soros pledged $10 million to ACT, which has since been fined $775,000 for illegally funneling $70 million set aside for voter registrations to Democratic candidates.

He also gave at least $150,000 to ACORN, the left-wing group best known for pushing minimum-wage hikes, marching for illegal-immigrant amnesty and harassing Wal-Mart. ACORN has been accused of voter fraud in 13 states since 2004 and was convicted of falsifying signatures in a voter registration drive last July, drawing a fine of $25,000 in Washington state.

Soros says he has ended funding to voter-drive organizations, but he still heads a secretive rich-man's club called "Democracy Alliance" that has doled out $20 million to activist groups like ACORN.

It's also noteworthy that the Soros-funded MoveOn.org advocates "paper-trail" electronic voting in the U.S., the same kind used in Venezuela, where allegations of electronic fraud and ballot secrecy violations have ended confidence in the system and sealed Chavez's dictatorship.

81 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:53:56am

re: #80 Poitiers-Lepanto

Like you, I was really taken back by that comment. And you're doing a such a fine job of refuting it, I'm enjoying just reading.

I'll bet you money this not an uncommon opionion either. Scary.

82 Dianna  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:55:58am

re: #79 BODYGUARDEAGLE

What is this "coffee" you speak of?
/silliness - I haven't caffeinated yet, either.

83 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 9:59:11am

Another suggested reading for our Soros-Bot at #57:

THE SHADOW PARTY, by David Horowitz and Richard Poe

Editorial review:

America is under attack. Its institutions and values are under daily assault. But the principal culprits are not foreign terrorists. They are influential and powerful Americans secretly stirring up disunion and disloyalty in the shifting shadows of the Democratic Party. New York Times best-selling authors David Horowitz and Richard Poe (both former radicals) weave together riveting history, investigative reporting, and cutting political analysis to help expose and explain:

* The Shadow Party's plan to rewrite the US Constitution.
* How the Shadow Party overthrows foreign governments--and why it may attempt to use the same methods here.
* The vast network of private think tanks, foundations, unions, stealth PACs, and other front groups through which the Shadow Party operates in America.
* The network's voluminous contributions to the Democrats, which totaled more than $300 million in the 2004 elections, and its growing influence over the party's message and policy.
* The politicians on both sides of the aisle who have exchanged political favors with George Soros and his "government-in-the-wings."
* The Shadow Party's efforts to conceal its radical agenda behind the "moderate" pose of Hillary Clinton and other public figures.
* The radical network's plan to seize power in 2008.

All this is not 'democracy", this is a plan to change America into a socialist hell.

84 Dianna  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 10:01:02am

re: #81 goodbye_natalie

I think it's symptomatic of the part of the article where the writer complains that Soros' behavior promotes cynicism and encourages voters to tune out.

85 Poitiers-Lepanto  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 10:02:35am

re: #81 goodbye_natalie

Thank you.
Yes, many severely "misunderestimate" the danger that Soros represents, because they don't know enough about the detail of the organizations he funds and what they do.

The suggested reading in my #83 is an absolute MUST.

O'Reilly, strangely enough, has found the determination to face this dangerous man and his subversive project for America.

But we are far from safety.

86 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 10:05:58am

re: #84 Dianna

I just read my comment Dianna and noticed such glaring typos that I am embarrassed you read it. Lately, LGF has been slow for me I type and hit post quickly. Lame excuse but it is the truth.

I think it's a combination of LGF getting popular and Natalie's machine beginning to choke.

87 johnnyreb  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 10:09:44am

re: #34 NoSubmission

Marxist Billionaire. Doesn't make any sense.

You have asked the very question I have been trying to answer for quite some time. What the heck is his point? Does he really want Socialism or is he just on a power trip?

As far as I am concerned he can give his money to any "legal" organization that he wants to. But when he pays "front" money for a US government employee to complain about being censored, and that employee obviously has an agenda, he has gone too far. Hansen at NASA was never a whistle blower, and he was never prevented from speaking to the press except one time. He is on a power trip with his buddy Al Bore and global warming.

88 realwest  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 10:10:31am

From the article: "The war on terror cannot be won," he has said.
Well people like him make it more difficult, that's for sure. But for him to even say that, means he believes that the more unstable the world governments are, the better for all of us (or him, anyway).
How can a man who would appear to have been brilliant in obtaining his fortune be so incredibly STUPID. The war on terror cannot be won. That means that he does in fact believe that there is a war on terror. Why he believes it cannot be won is beyond me. Any "terrorist" war or "insurgency" requires, at a minimum, the support of the "common people" and I don't think the war on terror has that (e.g., the Sunni's now are killing the Al-Q's and their associated "terror" groups in Iraq, because they see them for what they really are: just looking for a "win" in Iraq, so they can either use Iraq as a base to train, arm, recruit and etc. other terrorists or terrorist wannabe's and to hell with what that might mean to Iraqi's or if Al-Q can't achieve that, they want a truly bloody civil war in Iraq.) And the Sunni's - who arguably have the most to lose with a truly stable, democratic Iraq, are not only pointing out Al-Q hidedouts, IED's and the like, they've joined Coalition Forces to kill those terrorists.).
Sorry Soros you are completely wrong: the war on terror can and will be won, despite you and yours; if need be, all terrorists will be killed and, if it were up to me, all the terrorist enablers would be, at a minimum, be put in jail.

89 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 10:23:41am

re: #82 Dianna

re: #79 BODYGUARDEAGLE

What is this "coffee" you speak of?
/silliness - I haven't caffeinated yet, either.

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Dianna,
Sorry for the delayed response, but I had to go check to see if fresh pot of coffee was brewing, ... It is a known fact in the "South", that one should always have a caffeine drink such as coffee FIRST thing in the morning...so that due to our slooow suthen drawl, and ways of laid back sloow lifestyle,we dont say something really dumb...like
marwan's daughter

90 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 10:25:13am
91 doppelganglander  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 10:25:17am

re: #89 BODYGUARDEAGLE

If you were a real southerner, your morning drink of choice would be Coke or Dr. Pepper.

I actually came in here to say that Rush is on this topic right now.

92 realwest  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 10:31:24am

re: #91 doppelganglander And your morning "muffin" would be a "moon-pie".

93 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 10:36:24am

re: #91 doppelganglander

re: #89 BODYGUARDEAGLE

If you were a real southerner, your morning drink of choice would be Coke or Dr. Pepper.

I actually came in here to say that Rush is on this topic right now.

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SORRY DOPPELGANGLANDER,
But I AM a true Southerner. I AM the Dimokrats worst nightmare!...I AM an ALABAMA REPUBLICAN!...Born and raised a dimokrat...grew up and looked around and thought...hey...this party doesn't believe in what I believe in? and WHAMO...

As far as the Coke or Dr.Pepper, too much sugar for a fitness freak like me...As my User name might indicate, I MUST stay in very good shape...besides, the coffee is a good system shock before workouts, along with a good protein breakfast after wards. heh heh...

94 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 10:39:51am

re: #92 realwest

re: #91 doppelganglander And your morning "muffin" would be a "moon-pie".

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AWwww... c-mon now,... are we "Southerners" stereotyped THAT bad?...jeeze I didn't realized we were thought of like that... Hmmm...actually there are some people I know that do have what you guys said for breakfast...LOL...
HEY...ISN'T THAT CALLED PROFILING?...

95 realwest  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 10:40:07am

re: #77 Poitiers-Lepanto and

re: #80 Poitiers-Lepantore: and #83 Poitiers-Lepanto
WOW - just incredibly good research and writing! Really. And I wrote my #88 (not, I'm afraid, having read your posts first) mostly to point out that Soros DOES believe that there is a War on Terror and he believes the War on Terror cannot be won.
As I said in my #88, he's wrong about not being able to win the war on terror and I wondered why he wanted the War on Terror to succeed.
Wished I'd read your truly wonderful posts first.

96 Dianna  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 10:41:32am

re: #86 goodbye_natalie

My work computer is beginning to die, too, so I know what you mean.

The typos didn't detract from the sense, so I wouldn't worry about it.

97 realwest  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 10:44:59am

re: #94 BODYGUARDEAGLE ROFL! Yes, I'm a true Southener also (born in North Carolina, went to NYC to earn a living, but came back home after "retiring".). And a Doctor Pepper and a moonpie isn't profiling - it's true (and delicious, too!).
'Course I recognize from your nicname that you need to stay in shape, but y'all know that there are tougher folks like you down here that we keep chained up in the basement until we need 'em!

98 Dianna  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 10:46:18am

re: #93 BODYGUARDEAGLE

Sugar in the morning sends my system into shut-down; I can't tell if it's overload or what. In the evening, it gives me jitters, so I don't touch processed sugar (except on the weekend). I am not a fitness freak, but I empathize.

99 realwest  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 10:48:20am

re: #95 realwest

re: #77 Poitiers-Lepanto and

re: #80 Poitiers-Lepantore: and #83 Poitiers-Lepanto
WOW - just incredibly good research and writing! Really. And I wrote my #88 (not, I'm afraid, having read your posts first) mostly to point out that Soros DOES believe that there is a War on Terror and he believes the War on Terror cannot be won.
As I said in my #88, he's wrong about not being able to win the war on terror and I wondered why he wanted the War on Terror to succeed.
Wished I'd read your truly wonderful posts first.


Sorry for the re-post y'all, but I thought the posts by P-L were SO GOOD I'd try to attract more attention to 'em.

100 grayp  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 10:48:48am

George Soros is very easy to understand. He faced evil and ran away.

Really, what does one do after that? Well, one might acquire all the wealth and power possible to protect oneself from ever being in dager again. And then with all that wealth and all that power, you just might have a chance to destroy those forces that will never let you forget how you failed, those forces that never ran.

Next question.

101 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 10:52:18am

re: #97 realwest

re: #94 BODYGUARDEAGLE ROFL! Yes, I'm a true Southener also (born in North Carolina, went to NYC to earn a living, but came back home after "retiring".). And a Doctor Pepper and a moonpie isn't profiling - it's true (and delicious, too!).
'Course I recognize from your nicname that you need to stay in shape, but y'all know that there are tougher folks like you down here that we keep chained up in the basement until we need 'em!

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REALWEST,
Heh Heh...Well, actually no one chains us any more, we are just a little more suttle now days... LOL...I was in N.C 3 weeks ago..in Moyock, and Then up to D.C. at the Dept.of Justice. to re-certify.

102 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 10:55:14am

re: #98 Dianna

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Dianna,
absolutely...I can not eat heavy sugar products for energy, it does the same to me...I get very slow and lethargic. Potato chips are a good carb energy rush though.

103 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 10:58:34am

SORRY to get off thread, BUT I HATE GEORGE SOROS!...I get into trouble trying to discuss his obvious efforts to subvert our American system.
..THE BASTARD... OOOPS...should've deleted that...well...

104 Dianna  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 10:58:39am

re: #102 BODYGUARDEAGLE

I went low-carb a couple years ago. I miss potatoes in all their forms.

105 Dianna  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 11:00:12am

Mostly what I wish about Soros is that he'd take a sober look at the damage he's doing. Not that I expect it, but I do wish it.

The reason I'm a conservative is that I am aware that wishing does not make it so.

106 BODYGUARDEAGLE  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 11:04:51am

re: #105 Dianna

Mostly what I wish about Soros is that he'd take a sober look at the damage he's doing. Not that I expect it, but I do wish it.

The reason I'm a conservative is that I am aware that wishing does not make it so.

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Dianna,
I did the wishing thing for a few years, and even kept voting dimokrat hoping they would change and get some reality into the party. But...alas...they just kept digging deeper for the libs, and leftist and I said to my self.."SELF,...IT'S TIME TO BAIL ON THESE IDIOTS, AND SHOW THAT AS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT I HAVE MORE COMMON SENSE THAN THEY DO"!

107 grayp  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 11:10:02am

re: #93 BODYGUARDEAGLE


I AM an ALABAMA REPUBLICAN!..

Where in 'bama? I have family in Dothan.

108 Macker  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 11:19:57am

re: #18 tfc3rid

I've always said that George Soros is a very dangerous man... His plan is to take down the US dollar and it would not surprise me that he and his cronies have a hand in the current deflation of the American dollar versus the Euro.

Has anyone checked his scalp recently for three certain numbers?

109 RememberSekhmet?  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 11:39:19am

I think it is quite simple. It takes economic stupidity to get a currency to where speculators like Soros can plunder it. Lefties are economically clueless enough to play along. Ergo, Soros encourages the Lefties, and hopes to make the score of a lifetime by crashing the US dollar.

110 NY Nana  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 12:34:25pm

re: #69 buzzsawmonkey

Excellent post...excellent.

Chag sameach!

111 Jamieos  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 12:40:39pm

As usual I am coming to this discussion late but I have plenty to say.
I have been keeping a file on Soros for several years - 3 maybe - and today's discussion will be added to it - at least in part. I have been emailing the IBD articles to my list of contacts because this man is pure evil, and the more I read the more convinced I am that he's sent straight from Satan. Maybe part of Revelations - who can say?

However there are some things missed in the comments today.

George Soros at age 14 became a member of the Judenrat in his town in Hungary. Those of you who have studied the Holocaust know what the Judenrat was. I think I have an article where Soros admits his role in the Judenrat - which functioned as a quasi-government between the Nazis and the Jewish community and also picked who would go on the transports, and I think, what would happen to the property left behind. Imagine! This kid being in this position, and yet he has no regrets I read. All in a day's work! I imagine his father bought him his place in the Judenrat - how else to get one. I think about the name - "rat" a German word - not about rats, but the word RAT describes these people.

I also remember reading that while the family got along fine with the Nazis, they could not survive under the Communists, and they left Hungary for London. Soros himself came here in the early 60s and is now a US citizen I believe.

As for currency manipulations - he tried to sink the English pound but was unsuccessful, but he did succeed in destroying the Malaysian currency back in the 90s (maybe?) . He is a currency manipulator, and in my opinion, this kind of occupation is scummy. He produces nothing but money for himself, but worse he produces destruction and chaos.

I think he is a self-hating Jew, and his head got screwed up early in his life by his father and his wartime experiences. Is the word de-reacinated? So there is probably a world of psychological explanaton for his character, but somehow I also believe in the supernatural causation of his character.

To complete the description of who I am - other than a newbie at Charles' splendid LGF, I am the great grandaughter of a Jewish shoemaker who came from Germany to St. Louis, and having lost his first wife to cholera, married for the second time my great grandmother who was born a German Catholic. So I have these two people in my makeup, and I am proud to be a bit Jewish although I can't of course claim to be Jewish. I love Israel and I also love David Horowitz who is doing God's work for us all. He has been there - done that - having been what Mike Savage called a Red diaper-doper baby (a least I think Savage coined the term).

112 wanumba  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 12:57:50pm

#69 buzzsawmonkey
Glad you reposted that. It was a good read. It would have been missed by many if you hadn't copied it over.

113 wanumba  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 12:59:21pm

re: #33 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet
that's just spooky

114 wanumba  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 1:00:58pm

re: #111 Jamieos
The judenrat - the place where people sold their souls to save their lives?

115 wanumba  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 1:04:06pm

Lest anyone feel left out - there's a lot of good info and comments coming in on this thread - reading everything.
What happens when people get the "magic wand" - a billion dollars - and can make their wishes become reality - they become despots.

116 Against Socialism  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 1:45:52pm

George Soros, the covetous dwarf - already dead while he's living.

117 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 4:05:40pm

re: #111 Jamieos

Nice post. I knew much of that but not all.

And yes, as an Evangelical Christian, I have been keeping my eye on this man for at least 3-4 years. I think he is perhaps the biggest individual threat to America I can think of and I have been saying that for quite some time.

118 goodbye_natalie  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 4:10:14pm

re: #90 buzzsawmonkey

Sorry I was late to respond. I have been laying sod for five consecutive hours. The delivery was requested for 8:30-9:00 AM. They arrived at 1:00 PM. I'm getting ready to go back out but I was about to starve to death.

I would gladly change my nic to blue so you could correspond to my home address but I have never found where I can update my e-mail preferences. I tried but it "stayed black."

I would be more than happy to talk to you about it; excited, in fact.

119 Jamieos  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 4:50:28pm

Re #117 goodbye_natalie 9/26/07 4:05:40 pm reply quote report 0

re: #111 Jamieos

Nice post. I knew much of that but not all.

And yes, as an Evangelical Christian, I have been keeping my eye on this man for at least 3-4 years. I think he is perhaps the biggest individual threat to America I can think of and I have been saying that for quite some time.

I just discovered that you CAN email me - not sure how that happened, but if you or anyone else want to see what I have on Soros, I have most of it in PDF form, and can do the rest easily. I strongly believe in sharing information - it's OUR currency!
We need to share this for our greater good imho.

Hope you get the sod laid and don't kill yourself!

120 siiras  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 5:31:48pm

Someone should draw a map for the American people of George Soros/Sauron's tentacles and their far-reach, with a choke hold on the Democratic party.

Agree with those who see no contradiction in marxist billionaire. Totalitarians are either the power-mad elites like Soros who need control of the masses, happily beggaring or even killing millions to achieve it (the sadists) or the masochist masses who willingly give up their independence for the security of never having to think for themselves again, even at the low standard of life this arrangement always brings. Both groups despise independent thinkers and creators, whose contributions power capitalistic democratic societies and who are the chief obstacle to totalitarianism.

121 Hard Right  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 7:27:21pm

George Soros was one of the people taking/delling things from the homes of Jews after they'd been taken away by the Nazis. Soros saw evil and became the same type of evil-A meglomeniacal Fascist.

[Link: sweetness-light.com...]

122 Hard Right  Wed, Sep 26, 2007 7:32:23pm

re: #121 Hard Right

George Soros was one of the people taking/stealling things from the homes of Jews after they'd been taken away by the Nazis. Soros saw evil and became the same type of evil-A meglomeniacal Fascist.

[Link: sweetness-light.com...]

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