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LGF: Fox Research for Free

Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 6:53:15 pm PDT

Maybe I should start sending Fox News invoices for the stories they cover.

I’m just sayin’.

Since they don’t.

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1 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 6:54:41pm

Did I miss something?

2 meMarc  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 6:54:52pm

Huh?

3 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 6:55:19pm

Charles,

You wouldn't be complaning that Fox isn't giving you a "hat tip" are you?

;)

4 Thanos  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 6:55:23pm

I think you are their wire service some days... a lot of journos getting lazy.

5 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 6:55:38pm

There's a couple others you could add to that list.

/Just sayin'.

6 TeamDub  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 6:55:52pm

No comprende.

'Wings preseason game on, nothing else matters at the moment...

7 meMarc  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 6:56:14pm

Huh?

8 rabidsquirrel  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 6:56:33pm

Maybe Rupert can divert some of Bill O's big paycheck. God knows he isn't earning it.

9 WhiteRasta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 6:56:37pm

You mean they cover stories they pick up here, at Lizard Headquarters?

10 Charles  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 6:57:11pm

re: #9 WhiteRasta

You mean they cover stories they pick up here, at Lizard Headquarters?

Almost every day.

11 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 6:57:29pm
12 StarsandStripesForever  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 6:58:02pm

I see what you mean. At least Fox takes a look at the LGF research...once in a while.

13 meMarc  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 6:58:31pm

Charles,

Anything in particular prompted this thread now?

14 DesertSage  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 6:58:43pm

I have noticed that Fox covers a lot of stories that we've already covered here.

I think they all read LGF before they do anything else.

Hi Fox people!

15 rusta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 6:59:00pm

There are more than a few talk radio shows as well that you do research for.

16 WhiteRasta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 6:59:37pm

re: #10 Charles

Damn! That's just sweet!

Charles, That's just so very impressive.

17 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 6:59:40pm
18 Thanos  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 6:59:44pm

Should I tell them that they ought to be looking at Pakistan right now? In a few hours it will be known whether or not Mush can legally stand for election... also whether he will remove the uniform or not.

19 Macker  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:00:29pm

You're not thinking of branching off to do LGFTV, are you Charles?

/LOL

20 meMarc  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:00:41pm

Inquiring minds what to know more.

21 DesertSage  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:00:45pm

re: #17 savage_nation

Maybe Fox should have an LGF segment on Hannity and Skeletor?

22 greenmamba  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:00:55pm

Don't kid yourself. Glenn Beck too. The blogs and particularly LGF are setting the pace.

23 Lucius Septimius  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:00:57pm

I've noticed that BotW has been behind LGF on some stories by a few days, but enough novel stuff gets up there to still make it interesting. Taranto tends (like any blogger) to have his particular interests, and those stories get more current treatment. I suspect that a lot of his "tips" come from LGF readers, to judge by the excerpts they send him.

24 mikefln  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:01:10pm

What, y'all don't remember Charles posting the story of the 17 lb. Russian baby?

25 pablito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:01:17pm

Maybe a Fox page views line to the stats box is in order.

26 Catttt  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:01:35pm

re: #10 Charles

re: #9 WhiteRasta


You mean they cover stories they pick up here, at Lizard Headquarters?

Almost every day.

When I used to keep Fox News on in the background (stopped that at least a year ago - the constant missing blondes stories got on my nerves) I noticed that stuff I'd read here would be on Fox the next day.

Imitation - flattery - etc. The "professional media" can't keep up.

27 Macker  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:02:39pm

re: #17 savage_nation

I'd like to know what it would take for LGF to go on the air? I'm serious.

Everyone could see all the time the man that singlehandedly broke Dan Rather in half.

There, fixed that for ya!

28 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:02:52pm

re: #17 savage_nation

I think LGF is just fine as a blog.

29 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:02:56pm
Q. I sent Charles FOX an email about the story he THEY posted but he THEY didn’t give me the hat tip. Why not, and how can I get himTHEM to give it to me?

A. Just because you emailed a story to Charles FOX or were the first person to link to it, (-ed: or post it on your fabulous blog) it doesn't mean that's the first place he THEY saw it. He does his THEY DO THEIR own research, ...It’s considered poor form to ask for a hat tip.

/Just some very friendly ribbing.

30 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:02:58pm
31 WhiteRasta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:03:32pm

Charles,

I read stuff here that I don't see for days in the MSM.

I read the National Post and even they are a day behind you.

I find myself being very well informed and ahead of everyone else, by coming here.

Thank you for that.

32 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:03:38pm
33 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:03:45pm

And I recomment that Fox read the comments too.

34 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:03:55pm

Because Fox won't get excited for another week when Karen is approaching the Bahamas...


re: #220 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Did I mention the computer model from Brussells destroys Miami in 9.5 days?

Ok, we all know the European Community sucks, but their model is actually better than the Canadian, Japanese and UK models.


per the Hurricane Center website:


Developed and maintained by an international organization supported by 28 European member states, the ECMWF model is the most sophisticated and computationally expensive of all the global models currently used by NHC. Due to model complexity/resolution, data assimilation, and operational requirements of the member states, the ECMWF model run is among the latest arriving of all available dynamical model guidance. The ECMWF model is a hydrostatic spectral model where the linear terms are triangularly truncated to 799 waves (the nonlinear terms are calculated at a coarser resolution) with 91 vertical levels (TL799L91). This corresponds to a horizontal grid spacing of about 25 km. The ECMWF model employs a hybrid vertical coordinate system which is terrain following in the boundary layer (sigma) and becomes purely isobaric (pressure) near the tropopause. The ECMWF was the first modeling center to use four-dimensional (4-D VAR) data initialization which allows better assimilation of off-time (non-synoptic) observations, particularly from satellite data. The ECMWF system provides forecasts out to 240 hours (10 days) twice daily. Beyond the good medium-range tropical cyclone track prediction skill of the ECMWF model, its high spatial resolution has shown potential for useful intensity forecasting.

Oh, and it isn't just the Yurpian Community, check out the US GFS model for 10 days from now!

35 pegcity  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:03:59pm

re: #10 Charles

re: #9 WhiteRasta


You mean they cover stories they pick up here, at Lizard Headquarters?

Almost every day.

Setup a Foxnews counter like Reuters

36 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:04:01pm

Is this a Natalee Holloway thread?

/

37 arrebat  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:04:14pm

Fox picks up many important news from LGF and if they make enough noise CNN has to say something at least. Glenn Beck also reads LGF and reports from it. I like it, at least they inform themselves and they learn what it is really important.

38 daughter of patriots  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:04:25pm

Yes, I'd read something here in the morning and see it on Fox by day's end. Now, I've given up TV and only read LGF, a few other blogs and The Good Book, prepping for the shaking to come.

39 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:05:15pm
40 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:05:33pm

We've been calling the dead thread EIB showprep for a couple of years.

41 DesertSage  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:05:34pm

re: #32 savage_nation

Here ya go savage, have at it!

42 Thanos  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:05:37pm

re: #35 pegcity

re: #10 Charles


re: #9 WhiteRasta

You mean they cover stories they pick up here, at Lizard Headquarters?

Almost every day.

Setup a Foxnews counter like Reuters


I like that idea, actually you ought to do it for a few folks...

43 Macker  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:05:44pm

re: #32 savage_nation

It's easy. the tag is < sup > < / sup > (take out the spaces and you're good to go!

44 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:06:10pm

re: #25 pablito

Maybe a Fox page views line to the stats box is in order.

Ditto.

45 Desert Dog  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:06:34pm

They use LGF for the REAL news stories...FOX gets down in the muck with the rest of them for a lot of the stuff they air...the celebrity drunken ramage du jour, Greta's virtual orgasm over any new OJ trial, the missing teenager from (insert name here)...It is hard to watch FOX at times...BUT, at least they are here on earth, unlike most of the competition that is living in some other dimension

46 DistantThunder  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:06:39pm

I once made the comment that the Democrats were like Wiley E. Coyote whose traps set for Repbulican keep blowing up on them. The next day, on his website, Rush had a picture of Wiley holding a blown up package in reference to another 'alleged" Republican scandal they tried to manufacture.

I can't remember which of the many faux scandals it was.

47 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:06:40pm

re: #11 WrathofG-d

Wrath,

I saw that yesterday, and was just livid.

And I already hate State and Condi...this just further validates just how much they hate Jews.

John Bolton for Secretary of State 2008

48 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:06:51pm

like this?re: #43 Macker

like this?like this?

49 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:07:03pm
50 Charles  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:07:08pm

re: #29 WrathofG-d

Q. I sent Charles FOX an email about the story he THEY posted but he THEY didn’t give me the hat tip. Why not, and how can I get himTHEM to give it to me?A. Just because you emailed a story to Charles FOX or were the first person to link to it, (-ed: or post it on your fabulous blog) it doesn't mean that's the first place he THEY saw it. He does his THEY DO THEIR own research, ...It’s considered poor form to ask for a hat tip.
/Just some very friendly ribbing.

Go ahead. Rib away. The difference is that Fox is making millions of dollars by reading LGF.

51 dmandman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:07:10pm

Forget it. Unless you have at least a 4 year degree (preferably at the same school they went to) whatever you say is the incoherent babbling of an infant. Only their nuanced and superior minds understand what we should know (or not). It's the "prestige" disease that afflicts most large corporations, unless you come from a school with prestige you are not allowed to be with the grownups as you haven't been anointed by the school as all knowing/seeing, you are just a bumbling amatuer by their standards. Remember the Pajama comments of not long ago.

52 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:07:30pm
53 Thanos  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:07:34pm

re: #43 Macker

re: #32 savage_nation

It's easy. the tag is < sup > < / sup > (take out the spaces and you're good to go!


and there's also superscript as well. < sup > < sup / >

54 Macker  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:07:36pm

re: #48 WrathofG-d

You Got It!

55 tripletdad  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:07:46pm

Can you check for Fox hits, like Reuters?

56 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:08:49pm
57 Macker  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:08:50pm

I just hope we don't drive Charles nuts with all the superscripts and such...

/snicker

58 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:09:01pm

Brit Hume has noted LGF before, but I believe as far as news programs go, like most of the MSM, they never admit they get information from blogs, which do the legwork for a lot of outlets.

Television news is rarely original; local news is the worst, usually just a regurgitation of what's in the newspaper that day.

59 cookielady  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:09:10pm

Ok, the best way to look at it is this: the wire services and even the networks have specialists, in reporting and researching. LGF is pretty much a specialist in the area of the ROP and the WoT. Why shouldn't one of the researchers at Fox use this blog to jumpstart the things that they are looking into doing stories about? (yes, I know that is improper grammar)

It is a compliment that they trust LGF and Charles enough to use him as a resource and check the pulse of many Americans at the same time.

Lizards Rule! The Lizardmaster Rules!

60 Thanos  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:09:17pm

re: #53 Thanos

re: #43 Macker


re: #32 savage_nation

It's easy. the tag is < sup > < / sup > (take out the spaces and you're good to go!


and there's also superscript as well. < sup > < sup / >

Ok so I mean subscript use sub instead of sup.

61 DesertSage  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:09:26pm

re: #49 savage_nation

re: #41 DesertSage

re: #32 savage_nation

Here ya go savage, have at it!

Oooh! Bookmarked! Thanks.

Still on for Burger Continental?

Yep! Burger Continental®!

62 meMarc  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:09:37pm

Charles,

Here's how to tell if they are really poaching from LGF. Post a fake article about how blond hair color and botulism toxin combine to form a deadly toxin. Then see how nervous the women over there get.

63 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:09:42pm

re: #50 Charles

I was just playing around, but you are right. That is one VERY big difference.

Maybe you could apply for a job as a researcher. They probably do pretty well. Or at least FOX could do the right thing and at least mention that they got the story from LGF. That way you'd at least get some free advertising.

64 Ma Sands  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:10:19pm

re: #18 Thanos

Should I tell them that they ought to be looking at Pakistan right now? ...


:)

65 arrebat  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:10:21pm

re: #45 Desert Dog

They use LGF for the REAL news stories...FOX gets down in the muck with the rest of them for a lot of the stuff they air...the celebrity drunken ramage du jour, Greta's virtual orgasm over any new OJ trial, the missing teenager from (insert name here)...It is hard to watch FOX at times...BUT, at least they are here on earth, unlike most of the competition that is living in some other dimension

I agree, we are thinking of disconnecting cable. There is very little to see besides the Food Channel (sometimes) and maybe HGTV.

66 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:10:29pm

OK, about Greta van Susteren. How the hell can someone go to law school, and still believe in stories about an evil emperor Zorn or Zenu orwhoever his name is, people put in suspended animation, launched into space, come to Earth, lose their bodies, and mess with the mental health of Earthlings? I mean, actors aren't brain surgeons or rocket scientists, so Tom Cruise or Jenna Elfman or John Travolta being Scientologists, that I can understand, but a lawyer?

67 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:10:42pm

re: #34 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Ed, does this mean I can tease one of my my daughters in law, Karen, a lot?

68 straitcircle  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:10:59pm

LGF: A research Think Tank?

69 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:11:07pm

re: #47 NY Nana

The disgusting thing about it, (other than the obvious) is that State HAD to have read it, and known all about it before they funded it. Let's you know the State of affairs at State these days I guess.

(grumbling: and people used to laugh at me when I told them that a Holocuast & rampant Anti-Semitism could take place in the U.S. too...)

70 Charles  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:11:17pm

The Reuters counter is there because I managed to track the IP address of their Canary Wharf headquarters.

Unfortunately, most of the weasels aren't that easy to catch.

71 dmandman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:11:21pm

re: #66 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

If the check clears most lawyers will defend anything.

72 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:11:30pm

re: #62 meMarc

Charles,

Here's how to tell if they are really poaching from LGF. Post a fake article about how blond hair color and botulism toxin combine to form a deadly toxin. Then see how nervous the women over there get.


Dude, no picking on Laurie Dhue.

73 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:11:32pm

re: #50 Charles

re: #29 WrathofG-d

Q. I sent Charles FOX an email about the story he THEY posted but he THEY didn’t give me the hat tip. Why not, and how can I get himTHEM to give it to me?A. Just because you emailed a story to Charles FOX or were the first person to link to it, (-ed: or post it on your fabulous blog) it doesn't mean that's the first place he THEY saw it. He does his THEY DO THEIR own research, ...It’s considered poor form to ask for a hat tip.

/Just some very friendly ribbing.

Go ahead. Rib away. The difference is that Fox is making millions of dollars by reading LGF.

Charles you need an agent and a contract with FOX. As I have been pushing awhile for your next big thing-radio. But what the Hell Charles, bypass the radio, you're prime-time dude. Get an agent.

74 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:11:42pm

If fox is covering stories on LGF then I'm thrilled I no longer bother with cable TV. I have better things to do with my money...like hit the tip jar.

75 Lee  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:11:52pm

Gee, I must have missed the brain-eating amoeba thread...

76 Geepers  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:12:03pm

meMarc (#13),

Charles,

Anything in particular prompted this thread now?

This thread:

Breaking: MAS Leader Steps Down From VA Immigration Commission

Thu, Sep 27, 2007 at 11:46:32 am PST

Virginia radio station WRVA is reporting that Esam Omeish, leader of the Muslim Brotherhood front group calling itself the Muslim American Society, is stepping down from the state’s Immigration Commission.

Developing...

UPDATE at 9/27/07 11:56:17 am:

LGF reader clairevoyant has called the station, and confirmed the report. Yes!


UPDATE at 9/27/07 12:10:55 pm:

The Associated Press was awfully quick to pick up this story. I wonder who tipped them off? Videos spur Va. appointee’s resignation.

UPDATE at 9/27/07 12:32:18 pm:

Here’s the official statement from Virginia governor Timothy Kaine:

UPDATE at 9/27/07 12:38:37 pm:

Here’s another video of Esam Omeish, this one taken by LGF reader ciaospirit:

Expect the seething and whining about “Islamophobia” to start very soon.


UPDATE at 9/27/07 1:16:21 pm:

Here’s the video in which Omeish tells a crowd of Washington-area Muslims at a Jerusalem Day rally, “...you have learned the way, that you have known that the jihad way is the way to liberate your land.”

LGF: One stop shopping for all your media "research" needs.

77 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:12:20pm
78 rorschach  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:12:21pm

Truth is, this is just a lowly "blog"...small case. And we're all right-wing extremists.

Not like the "real" media, staffed with "real" impartial journalists, who only print the "real" news.

/Boy, are their days ever numbered.

79 mikefln  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:12:31pm

re: #31 WhiteRasta

Charles,

I read stuff here that I don't see for days in the MSM.

I read the National Post and even they are a day behind you.

I find myself being very well informed and ahead of everyone else, by coming here.

Thank you for that.

I absolutely second that. The coolest thing about it is mentioning these things to my friends/family/co-workers who have no idea what I'm talking about, then they hear it 3-10 days later on the national news.

They think I'm psychic.

80 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:12:32pm

re: #65 arrebat

I haven't had T.V. for the last 2 years.

Its been wonderful.

81 WhiteRasta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:12:51pm

.."The difference is that Fox is making millions of dollars by reading LGF..."

You do the donkey work and they get the glory and money.

Can you do anything about that?

I'm sure you don't do this because your middle name is Salvation Army...

Even though I'm sure you are a nice gentleman.

82 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:13:10pm

re: #39 savage_nation

re: #36 JammieWearingFool


Is this a Natalee Holloway thread?

/


Oh, God, keep Greta outta here! Everywhere she turns up there are bodies being dug up or found floating!

Like Jessica Fletcher!

83 daughter of patriots  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:13:33pm

I think LGF would segue better into radio than TV. That way we could remain in our pj's.

84 meMarc  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:13:45pm

re: #72 JammieWearingFool

re: #62 meMarc

Charles,

Here's how to tell if they are really poaching from LGF. Post a fake article about how blond hair color and botulism toxin combine to form a deadly toxin. Then see how nervous the women over there get.


Dude, no picking on Laurie Dhue.

Dhue is not her real last name. It's Drew. But with all the collagen in her lips, she can't pronounce it.

85 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:13:54pm
86 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:13:57pm
87 Lucius Septimius  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:13:59pm

re: #83 daughter of patriots

I think LGF would segue better into radio than TV. That way we could remain in our pj's.

What are pj's?

88 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:14:19pm
89 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:14:22pm

Whasaname of the cute weather babe? Domenica something? Anyone wanna link pix?

90 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:14:30pm

re: #84 meMarc

re: #72 JammieWearingFool

re: #62 meMarc

Charles,

Here's how to tell if they are really poaching from LGF. Post a fake article about how blond hair color and botulism toxin combine to form a deadly toxin. Then see how nervous the women over there get.


Dude, no picking on Laurie Dhue.

Dhue is not her real last name. It's Drew. But with all the collagen in her lips, she can't pronounce it.


I'm warning you.

/

91 zombie  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:14:44pm

re: #2 meMarc

Huh?

re: #1 WrathofG-d

Did I miss something?

Take it from me: Fox News (and several other MSM networks and programs) get a substantial portion of their "tips" straight from LGF.

Believe me, I know this for a fact. Was told it directly by not just one but two different Fox producers. Also, the same holds true for the Michael Savage show -- I have it from the horse's mouth. And the list goes on...

I think Charles is finally "putting them on notice." One can weary of being a content provider for no pay whatsoever. I had the same reaction, and finally starting charging corporate news organizations if they want to use my material. Pro-active and retroactive if I find out about it.

92 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:14:46pm

re: #85 taxfreekiller

great news.

93 Boxy_Brown  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:15:32pm

Plagiarism is the sincerest form of flattery. ;-)

Hey, I am glad they help get the word out.

94 Lucius Septimius  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:15:55pm

re: #91 zombie

BTW, did you ever work out the payment issue? I recall a long discussion of that a few months back, but don't recall hearing any conclusion.

95 Geepers  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:15:56pm

straitcircle (#68),

LGF: A research Think Tank?

We prefer Hive Mind.

96 Ma Sands  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:16:00pm

re: #50 Charles

re: #29 WrathofG-d

Q. I sent Charles FOX an email about the story he THEY posted but he THEY didn’t give me the hat tip. Why not, and how can I get himTHEM to give it to me?A. Just because you emailed a story to Charles FOX or were the first person to link to it, (-ed: or post it on your fabulous blog) it doesn't mean that's the first place he THEY saw it. He does his THEY DO THEIR own research, ...It’s considered poor form to ask for a hat tip.

/Just some very friendly ribbing.

Go ahead. Rib away. The difference is that Fox is making millions of dollars by reading LGF.


(Does it count that the message gets out all the more...? ):

97 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:16:54pm

re: #89 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Her?

98 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:17:01pm
99 nyc redneck  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:17:14pm

at least these important stories are getting out to more people. still not right tho that these guys in the spot light are too busy to do their own work. ( charles, you're the best.)

100 MandyManners  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:17:35pm

Test

101 mikefln  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:18:26pm

re: #70 Charles

The Reuters counter is there because I managed to track the IP address of their Canary Wharf headquarters.

Unfortunately, most of the weasels aren't that easy to catch.

Yeah, these guys are most likely sipping lattes while trolling LGF on the wi-fi at Starbucks.

I suppose you could theoretically put up a Starbucks counter...

102 Catttt  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:18:29pm

re: #100 MandyManners

Test

Darn. I didn't study.

103 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:18:29pm

LGF, imo, is the Gold Standard in blogs. That fox would come here over other blogs is a testament to that, as well as a testament to the power of the blogosphere in general. This isn't the first time the msm has had to take note of Charles' work, and apparently, it won't be the last. Good for you, Charles. Keep up the great work!

104 ciaospirit  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:18:36pm

Here's a big reason why Columbia's Bollinger verbally attacked Ahmadinejad Look at this letter to him from Duncan Hunter (R-CA).

Washington, D.C. – In a letter to Columbia University President Lee Bollinger, U.S. Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-CA) today criticized the University for inviting Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to speak to students and faculty this coming Monday, September 24th.

“This leader of state, which supports terrorists, is presently sending deadly roadside bombs across the Iraqi border to injure and kill American troops,” said Hunter. “Columbia University’s hosting of Ahmadinejad is a slap in the face of the 165,000 U.S. troops serving in Iraq. As he speaks, his agents will be moving roadside bombs onto the battlefield to be used against America’s military men and women.

This event, following the slanderous advertisement by MoveOn.org, depicting General Petraeus as “General Betray Us,” represents the emergence of the extreme left-wing of American politics.

Hunter concluded, “If this event takes place as scheduled, I intend to introduce legislation to cut-off Columbia University from every form of federal assistance. If the left-wingers of academia will not support our troops, they, in the very least, should not support our adversaries."

105 Desert Dog  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:19:17pm

What is a Think Tank?

Sounds like LGF to me...incorporate yourself and start issuing policy papers...they listen to you now for free...why not get some compensation for it? You'd get killer tax benefits as well!

106 looking closely  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:19:19pm

re: #50 Charles

re: #29 WrathofG-d

Q. I sent Charles FOX an email about the story he THEY posted but he THEY didn’t give me the hat tip. Why not, and how can I get himTHEM to give it to me?A. Just because you emailed a story to Charles FOX or were the first person to link to it, (-ed: or post it on your fabulous blog) it doesn't mean that's the first place he THEY saw it. He does his THEY DO THEIR own research, ...It’s considered poor form to ask for a hat tip.

/Just some very friendly ribbing.

Go ahead. Rib away. The difference is that Fox is making millions of dollars by reading LGF.

They've got a bigger audience.
Are you jealous?
At least you have the "influence" (even if it won't pay the bills).
What you have, that they don't have (but want to), is a touchstone to the real feelings of conservative America.

107 daughter of patriots  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:19:49pm

re: #87 Lucius Septimius

re: #83 daughter of patriots


I think LGF would segue better into radio than TV. That way we could remain in our pj's.

What are pj's?

Slang for pajamas!

108 WhiteRasta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:20:19pm

Does it count that the message gets out all the more...?

Yes, to a certain extent.

LGF is a commercial business and our Lizard Leader is entitled to make a profit for his diligence and hard work.

How else would he pay his followers their Zionist cheques, every month?

109 Ma Sands  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:21:03pm

re: #108 WhiteRasta

Oh, yeah, forgot about that. :)

110 zombie  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:21:11pm

I have to run soon, and only have time to scan a few of the comments, but it seems like people are wondering if Fox News gets leads from LGF.

It's not "if." It's definite.

Twice, when Fox used my photos on air, I negotiated licensing fees with them, and had friendly communications with people there, and they freely admit they they scan the top blogs, LGF named in particular, for news stories. It's not even an open secret -- it's just a plain fact. There's nothing "unethical" about it -- reporters get ideas wherever they can.

Look at it thbis way: Better to have the ability to alter the public discourse than to be ignored.

Sure, it stings that they're raking in the bucks by copying Charles, but being a martyr has its own sweet satisfaction in a perverse way.

111 NomadOfNorad  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:21:29pm

re: #70 Charles

The Reuters counter is there because I managed to track the IP address of their Canary Wharf headquarters.

Unfortunately, most of the weasels aren't that easy to catch.

Must be all those invading cybermen and daleks at Torchwood One.

112 arrebat  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:21:32pm

re: #104 ciaospirit

I heard him today. My only concern is that he will not be able to do anything.

113 ChristianRepublic  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:23:35pm

re: #6 TeamDub

No comprende.

'Wings preseason game on, nothing else matters at the moment...

Ice rasslin Hockey?

114 zombie  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:23:41pm

re: #94 Lucius Septimius

re: #91 zombie

BTW, did you ever work out the payment issue? I recall a long discussion of that a few months back, but don't recall hearing any conclusion.

Yes I did, in most instances! Very nice set-up. Get paid, and yet stay anonymous! (Notice to stalkers: all income is duly reported to the IRS!)

In fact, just got a deposit yesterday for a photo sold by Getty Images.

115 AntiPETA  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:23:42pm

re: #79 mikefln

Same.
I'm a walking, talking billboard for LGF's 24/7 ...

Omg. I'd change my nickname to 'walkingbillboard' in a heartbeat if Charles would let me. =)

116 looking closely  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:23:50pm

Charles,

For what its worth, LGF is a million times better than Fox News, and the rest of them as well.

And that is in no small part because you are NOT a commercialized network like they are, beholden to advertisers and ratings.

They come here because they know that the stuff here (mostly dug up by the Lizard Army) motivates the "base".

117 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:23:59pm

re: #97 JammieWearingFool

re: #89 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Her?

Yowza! makes weather fun.


I linked to TWC weather hottie and USAFR Captain Nicole Mitchell last night. Today, curvaceous and cute Stephanie Abrams.

118 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:24:35pm

re: #69 WrathofG-d

Wrath,

Nobody is laughing now...I would hope.

And you are right. State? Nothing they do to Israel and/or the Jews would surprise me. Nothing.

That President Bush appointed an Orthodox Jew as Attorney General is to be commended.

119 winston06  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:24:35pm

I think you should charge them for sure... Regardless of their political standing they are part of the MSM...

120 Lucius Septimius  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:25:19pm

re: #107 daughter of patriots

re: #87 Lucius Septimius

re: #83 daughter of patriots


I think LGF would segue better into radio than TV. That way we could remain in our pj's.


What are pj's?

Slang for pajamas!

Oh. I don't wear those.

121 Lucius Septimius  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:26:04pm

re: #114 zombie

That's great news -- glad to here you were able to work it all out.

122 mikefln  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:26:06pm

re: #98 taxfreekiller

unSenator Larry Craig may not be gay,
but he sure as hell is one weird dude.

A little OT, but he's about as not gay as those guys swinging from the cranes in downtown Teheran. Which is fine (not the part about the guys swinging from the crane, but his being gay). If you're gay, Senator Craig, you're gay. Just own up to it. Quit putting your family through this crap.

/pointless rant. Sorry.

123 NomadOfNorad  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:26:43pm

So, Charles, if you start charging them money, do we get a cut of it? :D

124 ChicagoBlue  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:27:14pm

re: #114 zombie

I was wondering on that myself ~ Great News! Glad you could work it all out, so well deserved!

re: #103 Sharmuta

So true!

125 looking closely  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:27:15pm

re: #108 WhiteRasta


LGF is a commercial business and our Lizard Leader is entitled to make a profit for his diligence and hard work.


And who's stopping him?

That sort of income is dependent on a good business model. There are ads on the side of the page, you know.

Charles most certainly can speak for himself, but I'm guessing he just wants an acknowledgment, not a cash payment.

126 bill-tb  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:29:05pm

Lizard HQ wire services, has a nice ring to it.

127 looking closely  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:30:46pm
Maybe I should start sending Fox News invoices for the stories they cover.

I’m just sayin’.

Since they don’t.


Instead, how about keeping a running list of stories they cover that appear to originate (or be disseminated largely from) LGF?

I'm sure you could get some help from the Lizard army, and a few weeks of that ought to prove the point.

128 mikefln  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:31:15pm

re: #117 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

re: #97 JammieWearingFool

re: #89 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Her?

Yowza! makes weather fun.


I linked to TWC weather hottie and USAFR Captain Nicole Mitchell last night. Today, curvaceous and cute Stephanie Abrams.


Yowza, indeed. Captain Mitchell, I'm saluting you. trust me.

129 Catttt  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:31:24pm

I suppose there will always be people who turn to the MSM, who will never be exposed to blogs. Those people at least get the benefit of expanded coverage and points of view.

Also, imho, blogs like LGF and Zombietime, etc., are much more newsworthy in content - much more cutting edge, than the LLL blogs, which are endless sinkwells of whining and backbiting, with very little actual news. Bet not many people haunt Daily Kos for news tips.

Fox - hit the tip jar.

130 Fritz_Katz  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:31:33pm

re: #50 Charles

Go ahead. Rib away. The difference is that Fox is making millions of dollars by reading LGF.

Seriously -- think about creating LGFTV (in cahoots with HotAir TV, of course). You've got enough talent right here in this blog to put it together and make a profit. You could broadcast on a subscription satellite feed or an ATSC terrestrial channel in the Los Angeles area as well as on the internet.

131 WhiteRasta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:32:56pm

re: #125 looking closely

but I'm guessing he just wants an acknowledgment, not a cash payment.

Probably, but why not make money, since it's Charles doing the work?

132 WrathofG-d  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:33:22pm

re: #118 NY Nana

New thread up, on this topic. See you there.

133 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:33:25pm

re: #129 Cattt

Some blogs are worthy of attention- others clearly are not. Good to know fox at least has good taste.

134 uptight  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:34:29pm

(cough)KARMA(cough)

135 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:35:08pm
136 FrogMarch  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:35:55pm

Fox kinda Sux. Too Tabloid media

It's better than the CNN /clinton news network and the other pro-democrat in the tank with the democrats media.. but thats not saying much.

LGF is where I get my news.

137 surrounded by moonbats  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:39:29pm

re: #31 WhiteRasta

Charles,

I read stuff here that I don't see for days in the MSM.

I read the National Post and even they are a day behind you.

I find myself being very well informed and ahead of everyone else, by coming here.

Thank you for that.

j

That's true. A week after reading something here, someone at work will say something about a news headline somewhere in the MSM - and it's old news to me.

138 Charles  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:41:39pm

re: #134 uptight

(cough)KARMA(cough)

And this means...?

139 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:42:21pm

re: #56 taxfreekiller


"Islam is the dark matter that is pushing the universe apart.

{applause!}

140 looking closely  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:43:13pm

WRT to "LGF TV", running a blog and having a TV program are two totally different things, two totally different genres.

You can excel at one, but reek at the other. Its probably fair to say that most TV-types couldn't run a blog (let alone as well as this one), just as its probably fair to say most bloggers wouldn't be able to run a TV show well.

I think the airwaves are full of the carcasses of people who though they could easily switch from radio to TV or theater to film to television, etc.

LGF is great, but remember, it took years in evolution to get where it is right now (and its constantly a work in progress).

141 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:44:21pm
142 ratherdashing  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:45:16pm

Here's how I see it. Lizards gather stories from around the internet. We send them to Charles in hopes that they get wider exposure. Charles sifts through these stories and his own finds. He decides which are worthy of further attention. He adds his editorial slant, perspective and context. The bigger players at Fox and Limbaugh, et al, pick the juicy & well documented bits and run with them. The bigger players do receive revenue from this system. Charles should somehow be compensated for the clearinghouse work that he does.

Personally, I'll continue to do it just to further my own views in the arena of ideas.

143 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:45:53pm

re: #100 MandyManners

A+++

144 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:46:06pm

Charles, I'm not sure how well you are doing with your ad revenue, but I've been coming here as well as many other Lizardoid loyally for a few years now. This is the first site I check for news and the last before I go to bed.

It's not just Fox picking up your stories, it's also Talk Radio and other blogs. I've seen Rush, and Mark Levin pick up some of your story lines. I think the reason they don't quote you as much as they should is because of the smear campaign against you and LGF as a racist site. They want to take the benefits of the story without taking the heat by acknowledging the source.

Rest assured the most demonized people of history have many times shown to be later correct. There is a genius behind what you do because of the purity and integrity that you hold combine with your clarity of thought. You have come a long way and your time is not up yet. You are just getting started and I for one am grateful that you are here.

145 NY Nana  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:47:00pm

re: #132 WrathofG-d

Saw. Will I recognize you? :)

146 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:48:30pm

re: #110 zombie

I have to run soon, and only have time to scan a few of the comments, but it seems like people are wondering if Fox News gets leads from LGF.

It's not "if." It's definite.

Twice, when Fox used my photos on air, I negotiated licensing fees with them, and had friendly communications with people there, and they freely admit they they scan the top blogs, LGF named in particular, for news stories. It's not even an open secret -- it's just a plain fact. There's nothing "unethical" about it -- reporters get ideas wherever they can.

Look at it thbis way: Better to have the ability to alter the public discourse than to be ignored.

Sure, it stings that they're raking in the bucks by copying Charles, but being a martyr has its own sweet satisfaction in a perverse way.

A great number of Lizards watch FOX myself included. FOX has many advertisers who pay top dollar for spots. It would behoove FOX to pay attention this detail as LGFers are a much powerful group, probably stronger than the Teamsters or the UAW. In other words, FOX should either:
a. compensate Charles (zombie included) or
b. Offer Charles a segment on Hannity and Colmes.

Otherwise, if FOX should continue to pursue its process of retrieving news by way of LGF, "Fair and Balanced" news can had elsewhere.

147 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:49:24pm

Rubert Murdoch is looking for more sites to aquire. Don't worry Charles, your hard work will pay off.

148 joan  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:49:42pm

Charles,
I was thinking just the other day how much work this blog has got to be--it is relevant, up to the minute, libertarian, forthright and forceful in allowing freedom of thought and honest emotion, but without descending into the gutter.

It is far and away the highlight of my morning, after coffee of course, to check out the headlines here. Sadly, I must quote gospel at you, though: "A prophet is not without honor, save in his own land." And, reluctant though you may be, by doing LGF you are doing your bit in the Long War.

How can we who are grateful for LGF ensure that you are valued, your work respected?

Your work here is not only informative, entertaining, and a perfect antidote to the fever swamps of propaganda that surrounds all of us; it is also necessary.

LGF as a leader among new media sources, with that handful of other quality sites and the cadres of valuable allies in the internet opinion and information journals. Your work is as vital to the health of our nation in its sphere, as Fox News, C-Span and the occasional flukes of honest reportage that transpire "out there."

Do you know that you are a warrior? Are you battle fatigued?

We need LGF.

You seem like an enterprising sort--O'Reilly sells mugs and hats so, how about an online store; and, how about a "premium subscriber" option of some sort? Do you think that some of the thousands who read LGF might own businesses, and pay for advertising?

So long as LGF remains vital and available to all, an "insider" adjunct might be worth considering, so, why not look into the legalities. O'Reilly recycles some portion of his profit making ventures into charitable causes--that means there's enough and more than enough revenue generated by "O'Reilly Inc." to spare.

Perhaps not only could you be remunerated, but with a consortium of "top 10" conservative blogs, you could actually start a Foundation for Western Culture, and select strategic projects, studies, legal measures.

/just sayin'

149 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:51:29pm

re: #111 NomadOfNorad

re: #70 Charles


The Reuters counter is there because I managed to track the IP address of their Canary Wharf headquarters.

Unfortunately, most of the weasels aren't that easy to catch.


Must be all those invading cybermen and daleks at Torchwood One.

I haven't caught that yet. Is that any good?

150 Charles  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:51:54pm

re: #144 Egfrow

I think the reason they don't quote you as much as they should is because of the smear campaign against you and LGF as a racist site. They want to take the benefits of the story without taking the heat by acknowledging the source.

Exactly right.

151 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:52:51pm
152 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:53:01pm

re: #114 zombie

re: #94 Lucius Septimius


re: #91 zombie

BTW, did you ever work out the payment issue? I recall a long discussion of that a few months back, but don't recall hearing any conclusion.


Yes I did, in most instances! Very nice set-up. Get paid, and yet stay anonymous! (Notice to stalkers: all income is duly reported to the IRS!)

In fact, just got a deposit yesterday for a photo sold by Getty Images.

Congratulations! Your work is valuable, but still...nice to get paid. I hope we can get Charles an arrangement.

153 sbvft contributor  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:54:12pm

i think charles's foray into non-blog-media should begin with a weekly chat with a someone like prager - something along the line of hewitt's weekly thursday chat with Steyn. You know - baby steps. Then on to a one night gig of his own (akin to Drudge's Sunday nite show). Then a pilot show on Fox devoted solely to exposing radical islam. Special reports from Zombie of course . Then we pool together some lizard army $ and do a hostile takeover of PMSNBC.

154 Blackacre  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:54:32pm

re: #138 Charles

re: #134 uptight

(cough)KARMA(cough)

And this means...?

Since uptight hasn't answered, I'll venture a guess. Maybe it means uptight's got a hernia. (Cough, cough.)

155 wee fury  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:55:07pm

OT
Sep 27, 2007 22:31
3 Baghdad airport employees detained as terrorsim suspects
By ASSOCIATED PRESS
BAGHDAD
American forces arrested three "extremists" in high-level jobs and plotting kidnapping operations at Baghdad International Airport, the military said in a statement Thursday.

It said those arrested were plotting to kidnap Iraqi forces and civilians working with US troops.

"The corrupt workers are suspected of having positioned themselves in several high-level jobs at the airport to establish a base and conduct kidnapping operations against Iraqi Security Forces and innocent civilians who stand up against the group's criminal activities," said the statement. "The men are further suspected of participating in attacks on Iraqi and Coalition Forces with improvised explosive devices and mortars."

The statement did not specify of which group the detained men were members.

156 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:55:12pm

re: #123 NomadOfNorad

So, Charles, if you start charging them money, do we get a cut of it? :D

It's all included in your Zionist check.

157 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:58:22pm
158 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:58:53pm

re: #154 Blackacre

re: #138 Charles


re: #134 uptight

(cough)KARMA(cough)

And this means...?

Since uptight hasn't answered, I'll venture a guess. Maybe it means uptight's got a hernia. (Cough, cough.)

Allergy season has started here, maybe it has over his way too?

159 Charles  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 7:59:24pm

And by the way -- I appreciate tips from LGF readers immensely, and if there is ever income from the mainstream media, I'll figure out a way to share it with valued contributors.

Don't hold your breath, though.

160 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:00:10pm

re: #151 savage_nation

re: #148 joan

Little Green Footballs Charles Johnson is a NATIONAL TREASURE.

Either way, savage.

161 sbvft contributor  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:00:53pm

re: #151 savage_nation

re: #148 joan

Little Green Footballs is a NATIONAL TREASURE.

Like Prager said, when future historians put down on paper what was occurring during these crazy times we are now living through, LGF will be recognized as an essential part of people's efforts to expose radical Islam's agenda.

...That is, if we win. If we don't, well then Charles will be featured prominently as a major league infidel.

162 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:00:58pm

re: #159 Charles

And by the way -- I appreciate tips from LGF readers immensely, and if there is ever income from the mainstream media, I'll figure out a way to share it with valued contributors.

Don't hold your breath, though.

You've gotta be kiddin' me? Should it ever come to pass, it's yours, man.

163 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:01:39pm

re: #153 sbvft contributor

i think charles's foray into non-blog-media should begin with a weekly chat with a someone like prager - something along the line of hewitt's weekly thursday chat with Steyn. You know - baby steps. Then on to a one night gig of his own (akin to Drudge's Sunday nite show). Then a pilot show on Fox devoted solely to exposing radical islam. Special reports from Zombie of course . Then we pool together some lizard army $ and do a hostile takeover of PMSNBC.

I would very much like to be able to see Charles as a guest columnist in Investor's Business Daily. I have visited O'Neil Publishing (they're out by you Charles, on Beatrice Street, off of Jefferson) and I must say it was impressive to say the least.

164 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:01:43pm

re: #159 Charles

We appreciate you, Charles.

165 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:01:44pm
166 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:02:20pm

re: #161 sbvft contributor

re: #151 savage_nation


re: #148 joan

Little Green Footballs is a NATIONAL TREASURE.


Like Prager said, when future historians put down on paper what was occurring during these crazy times we are now living through, LGF will be recognized as an essential part of people's efforts to expose radical Islam's agenda.

...That is, if we win. If we don't, well then Charles will be featured prominently as a major league infidel.

I'm having visuals of Charles looking like Charlie Sheen in Major League, on the mound, complete with the horn-rimmed glasses.

167 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:02:24pm

re: #157 savage_nation

Michelle has quoted LGF several times on FOX though she does keep it down to a cool level. Keep in mind she has her own interests to promote with her site at HotAir.com so she will only go so far.

I've seen LGF and HotAir borrow stories from one another and there is sometimes a sort of Barter system in play quid pro quo style. I think Michelle is actually the one one who is willing to mention LGF.

168 Ma Sands  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:02:28pm

re: #148 joan

Wow. What an epistle! Good job! Could never have said it a millionth as well! Thank you. :)

169 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:03:16pm
170 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:03:48pm

re: #161 sbvft contributor

...That is, if we win. If we don't, well then Charles will be featured prominently as a major league infidel.

As with us all at LGF

171 Blackacre  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:03:49pm

re: #157 savage_nation

How close is Michelle Malkin to LGF? That would be oen person to get us in the door TV wise. Remember, she pops on O'Reilly from time to time...

That door has been opened before -- if I recall correctly, during Rathergate and when Photoshop killed the agitprop star. Charles did great. And I say, "Encore!"

173 nikis-knight  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:05:50pm

re: #150 Charles

re: #144 Egfrow


I think the reason they don't quote you as much as they should is because of the smear campaign against you and LGF as a racist site. They want to take the benefits of the story without taking the heat by acknowledging the source.

Exactly right.


That's sadly ironic, since the same people who smear LGF use Fox as an expletive.
Still, what matters is saving our civilization from the islamonazis and their commie bedmates. Look at the poll results that show more people see Islam as violent and know you are having an impact on the world.
([Link: www.jihadwatch.org...] , since I don't remember if it was posted here.)

174 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:07:07pm

re: #167 Egfrow

re: #157 savage_nation

Michelle has quoted LGF several times on FOX though she does keep it down to a cool level. Keep in mind she has her own interests to promote with her site at HotAir.com so she will only go so far.

I've seen LGF and HotAir borrow stories from one another and there is sometimes a sort of Barter system in play quid pro quo style. I think Michelle is actually the one one who is willing to mention LGF.

Rush has said it well that the bloggers talk to each other. It's true. We have our one or three sites we spend the most time at, commenting and all, then a number of others we visit. We'll post links in the comments from the other sites, or give them to the blog's owners. In some cases, the owners communicate directly. You wind up with a hive mind. Information posted here will wind up on Joe Six-Pack's blog, and it will wind up on Investor's Business Daily.

175 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:07:47pm
176 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:07:52pm

re: #171 Blackacre

re: #157 savage_nation


How close is Michelle Malkin to LGF? That would be oen person to get us in the door TV wise. Remember, she pops on O'Reilly from time to time...

That door has been opened before -- if I recall correctly, during Rathergate and when Photoshop killed the agitprop star. Charles did great. And I say, "Encore!"

Ooohhh...the reference to the horrible song...get it out of my head!

177 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:08:37pm

re: #170 kreigwagon

re: #161 sbvft contributor

...That is, if we win. If we don't, well then Charles will be featured prominently as a major league infidel.

As with us all at LGF

The world is in the process of lining up and taking sides, most people just aren't aware they're doing it yet.

178 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:09:22pm

re: #173 nikis-knight

Well, that's true, but we also don't want exploitation here which sometimes I consider it borderline. Charles, has his fat Zionist checks he receives weekly and they drop o fdaily fresh moonbats from the four corners of Frisco so he can chew on their gamy buttocks.

179 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:09:41pm

Charles,

Honestly -- what's up? You use other people's work every day.

Every day.

Come on, man.

180 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:10:16pm

Charles- maybe fox has been listening to dan rather and also thinks you're Nobody.

181 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:10:32pm

Cog, my guess is, you are in for a smackdown.

182 ratherdashing  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:10:54pm

re: #175 savage_nation

Here's one example on YouTube:

Charles on CNN

183 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:11:17pm

re: #179 Cognito

Charles,

Honestly -- what's up? You use other people's work every day.

Every day.

Come on, man.

Uh, oh here comes the big guns...


/You better run or back that up.

184 bcgirl  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:11:26pm

well, I come here for news before I go any where else,, why should not Fox,, HI FOX,ps.. i think the POTUS reads LGF and ITM too,, you know them?

185 Ma Sands  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:11:26pm

re: #181 bikermailman

Or a pointed GAZE... :)

186 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:11:34pm

re: #179 Cognito

Yeah- and Charles links to it, hence, gives them credit.

187 juan  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:12:19pm

When can a Hatchling join the "Mighty Lizaroid Army?"

188 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:13:06pm

re: #187 juan

When can a Hatchling join the "Mighty Lizaroid Army?"

You are in Juan, you are already in.

189 ratherdashing  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:13:17pm

re: #187 juan

on Sep 25, 2007 at 11:38 am

190 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:13:21pm

re: #187 juan

Somewhere between Registration and their first post.

191 DistantThunder  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:13:22pm

re: #179 Cognito

Charles gives credit where credit is due.

192 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:13:30pm

re: #181 bikermailman

Cog, my guess is, you are in for a smackdown.

It's not a junior-high schoolyard. There's no 'smackdown,' and if there is, that's fine by me. But I don't mind being straightforward about this sort of thing.

193 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:13:44pm
194 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:14:38pm

re: #192 Cognito

re: #181 bikermailman

Cog, my guess is, you are in for a smackdown.

It's not a junior-high schoolyard. There's no 'smackdown,' and if there is, that's fine by me. But I don't mind being straightforward about this sort of thing.

Ok Cog, back up your post with times, dates, we use facts here bro.

195 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:14:52pm
196 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:15:08pm

re: #181 bikermailman

But I don't mind being straightforward about this sort of thing.

On other sorts of things it is a different matter however, bikermailman.

197 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:15:12pm
198 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:15:19pm

re: #179 Cognito

I don't think you understand the point of why he posted this. He's not whining or complaining he's just making it clear that he nowhere near acknowledged as he should be. Not everyone can do what Charles does and takes many tireless hours of effort, multitasking, programing. testing, all while giving us the best content. This is not easy.

If Charles was serious about getting paid he would have already hired lawyers. He knows the nature of the blog business, he was there from the start. All he's asking is a little acknowledgment and respect, Just a little. It's not much to ask for.

199 mikefln  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:15:43pm

re: #162 bikermailman

re: #159 Charles

And by the way -- I appreciate tips from LGF readers immensely, and if there is ever income from the mainstream media, I'll figure out a way to share it with valued contributors.

Don't hold your breath, though.

You've gotta be kiddin' me? Should it ever come to pass, it's yours, man.

Amen to that. I've often thought about how hard it must be for you with everything you go through, from death threats to learning php and MySQL (I'm undecided on which is scarier). You are a rock, Charles. Please remember just how much you are appreciated by so many of us out here in "meatspace", as the Slashdotters call it.

And thanks for letting me hang out here.

Mike

200 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:15:57pm

re: #185 Ma Sands

re: #181 bikermailman

Or a pointed GAZE... :)

I like Cog, was trying to give him a warning.

201 harley2002  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:15:59pm

Charles

Money is great. But you are making a difference in the way the country heads in the future. You are a patriot. There are few left. Many of the founders did what they did for patriotism not money. Be proud of what you are doing to help this country. Hopefully the bucks will come your way someday.

202 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:16:29pm

re: #187 juan

When can a Hatchling join the "Mighty Lizaroid Army?"

You are a welcome member!

203 bcgirl  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:16:43pm

re: #34 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

yo ed, do you have a better link to that web site? the US one?

204 Piglet-U93  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:17:43pm

re: #10 Charles

re: #9 WhiteRasta

You mean they cover stories they pick up here, at Lizard Headquarters?

Almost every day.

For sake of the war (Islam versus the West) I am sure you'll be able to back bill them as soon as PC is thrown into the trash bin where it belongs.
Just don't take a job with them stay independent.

Regardless, I will be sending you a contribution as soon as I get a new job.

205 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:17:53pm
206 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:18:08pm

re: #194 kreigwagon

re: #192 Cognito

re: #181 bikermailman
Cog, my guess is, you are in for a smackdown.
It's not a junior-high schoolyard. There's no 'smackdown,' and if there is, that's fine by me. But I don't mind being straightforward about this sort of thing.
Ok Cog, back up your post with times, dates, we use facts here bro.

Give me a break, man. Seriously. Just read the past year's worth of LGF. Or the past month. Or the past 24 hours.

I'm not saying Charles doesn't do a good, smart thing: He does good work, and because of that he draws a good audience. Hence the attentions of Volvo and T-Mobile.

There's a lot -- a lot -- more to be said about the mainstream media/blog axis, but I'll sit tight. I like LGF -- otherwise I wouldn't swing by daily -- but I also like the reporters and editors who provide so much of the material.

207 clarence  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:18:09pm

@# 153 well this is a great idea and I think Charles should give it some thought. Ive only seen the the Little Green Football once on TV (during the Israel/Hisb war i think) and i thought he handled himself very well.

208 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:18:14pm

re: #200 bikermailman

re: #185 Ma Sands

re: #181 bikermailman

Or a pointed GAZE... :)

I like Cog, was trying to give him a warning.

I guess some people don't appreciate what Charles has accomplished. The man must not sleep much, he is LGF.

209 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:18:20pm

re: #192 Cognito

re: #181 bikermailman


Cog, my guess is, you are in for a smackdown.

It's not a junior-high schoolyard. There's no 'smackdown,' and if there is, that's fine by me. But I don't mind being straightforward about this sort of thing.

Metaphorical smackdown. It was just a guess, a guess that Charles wasn't in the mood for it. You'd just come to the thread (I think), maybe not had the chance to read all the comments to get the full context.

210 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:18:23pm
211 bcgirl  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:18:34pm

re: #38 daughter of patriots

Yes, I'd read something here in the morning and see it on Fox by day's end. Now, I've given up TV and only read LGF, a few other blogs and The Good Book, prepping for the shaking to come.


AMEN SISTER

212 Ma Sands  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:18:39pm

re: #200 bikermailman

Reminds me, though, sort of like India after the tsunami --won't readily accept help from anyone...

213 itellu3times  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:18:52pm

Rush gets a ton from WSJ, Lucianne.com, Powerline, and a few others, not sure if he goes direct to LGF.

Let's see, does Fox want to buy ad space on LGF? Um, probably not. Do they want to sponsor Charles online or on-air? Er, no, their speed is more like the Half-Hour News Hour, which is pretty much the Half-Wit News Hour, the money they don't spend on writers for that thing would buy a Bentley a week.

I'd say Rush has the $$$ model for things with his dittocam, memberships, and newsletters, not to mention golf shirts etc. But that is show biz, really, as Rush really knows. I'd give Charles a MacArthur Foundation grant, ... but that doesn't solve the Fox issue now, does it?

It's tough. They'd probably be glad to spend big bucks on LGF, except they don't want to be seen with it! Kind of a bizarro version of the old Groucho thing, where he wouldn't want to join any club that would have the likes of him for a member.

214 ratherdashing  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:19:35pm

re: #179 Cognito

If Charles does create something (ie - the flashing memo, analysis of Lebanese smoke plume photoshop tricks), doesn't that intellectual property belong to him? Isn't there some compensation for that? I'm asking because I know that you know the biz.

215 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:20:54pm

re: #214 ratherdashing

re: #179 Cognito

If Charles does create something (ie - the flashing memo, analysis of Lebanese smoke plume photoshop tricks), doesn't that intellectual property belong to him? Isn't there some compensation for that? I'm asking because I know that you know the biz.

I'd certainly say anything he authors belongs to him. I'm a strong proponent of intellectual property laws.

As for compensation -- that comes from advertising, or under some models, subscription rates. It's a weird market.

216 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:22:04pm

re: #195 savage_nation

re: #176 bikermailman

What song?

Video Killed The Radio Star

217 itellu3times  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:22:07pm

re: #179 Cognito

Charles,

Honestly -- what's up? You use other people's work every day.

Every day.

Come on, man.

With acknowledgement, dude.

218 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:22:50pm

re: #216 bikermailman

re: #195 savage_nation


re: #176 bikermailman

What song?


Video Killed The Radio Star

Useless trivia, btw: The first video ever played on MTV.

219 Globular Cluster  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:23:15pm

re: #10 Charles

re: #9 WhiteRasta

You mean they cover stories they pick up here, at Lizard Headquarters?

Almost every day.

Is this a bad thing? At the end of the day, important stories get traction, and that is what LGF'rs have always wanted. Everyone here knows that the Great Lizard is brilliant, that his site sets the standard for critical thinking and anti-idiotarianism. That is why we keep coming back.

This isn't about credit or profit, it's about making the world a better place. If Fox would need to consistently credit LGF for stories, opponents would accuse Fox of getting "trash from the blogosphere".

Similarly, LGF and AllahPundit make extensive use of of Fox videos, directly posted in the page. Fox spends good money to make these (correspondents, video editors, cameramen, plane flights, etc).

I can understand how it can be irritating to see stories consistently pop-up on Fox that were broken here, but on the whole it seems to me a symbiotic relationship and not a parasitic one.

/don't hurt me!

220 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:24:06pm

re: #215 Cognito

Again, he's not complaining, he's clarifying. Those that take advantage always attempt to assume their victim is a dupe. Charles is letting them know he's not. That's it!

221 KennyR  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:24:57pm

Charles,
There are many that should at least acknowledge you as a source. Especially Glenn Beck as he says allot of things that I've already read on your site. I think they're afraid to do so because they realize the smears against you may be taken seriously by some of they're audience and competition. Keep it up!

222 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:25:40pm

re: #203 bcgirl

re: #34 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

yo ed, do you have a better link to that web site? the US one?

The source for all NCEP models covering Atlantic tropics:

[Link: www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov...]

223 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:25:44pm

re: #217 itellu3times

re: #179 Cognito

Charles,

Honestly -- what's up? You use other people's work every day.

Every day.

Come on, man.

With acknowledgement, dude.

Not so much, I'd say. You tend to see the words "Associated Press" or "mainstream media" only when they're coming in for criticism. Otherwise there might be a link, but there's little incentive to follow it, as the critical portion is frequently excerpted.

That's not necessarily wrong, but I think it does sometimes at least tiptoe to the edge of Fair Use.

Like I said, there's a lot more to say because it's a complex subject. The upshot is that I like LGF, but I don't mind pointing out that the blog has drawn from the media well with gusto.

224 itellu3times  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:25:57pm

re: #219 Globular Cluster

I can understand how it can be irritating to see stories consistently pop-up on Fox that were broken here, but on the whole it seems to me a symbiotic relationship and not a parasitic one.

/don't hurt me!

I'll say it again, with acknowledgement.

If Fox just gave a hat tip to Charles for his work, and not a penny cash, it would probably triple traffic - and Charles' advertising revenues.

Of course it would also melt down the current infrastructure, but an army of hamster clones is on the march at this very moment, as I understand it.

225 juan  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:26:10pm

Thanks for welcoming me in the "Mighty Lizaroid Army." I know Charles is our "Great Leader" and we will Prevail. No SURRENDER here!

226 ratherdashing  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:26:49pm

re: #215 Cognito


subscription rates

That'll separate the men from the boys.

227 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:27:07pm

re: #220 Egfrow

re: #215 Cognito

Again, he's not complaining, he's clarifying. Those that take advantage always attempt to assume their victim is a dupe. Charles is letting them know he's not. That's it!

I'm with you on that -- I think that if someone, anyone, uses Charles's material they should credit him. But there's a tad more to it, as I outlined above, although maybe not very well.

228 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:27:12pm

re: #208 kreigwagon

re: #200 bikermailman


re: #185 Ma Sands

re: #181 bikermailman

Or a pointed GAZE... :)


I like Cog, was trying to give him a warning.

I guess some people don't appreciate what Charles has accomplished. The man must not sleep much, he is LGF.

Personally, I think he's done some crazy chimera genetic voodoo on the hamsters. He's out on the bike, or out cold and it's the durned hamsters talking to us!

229 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:28:01pm
230 DistantThunder  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:28:24pm
231 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:28:41pm

re: #213 itellu3times

Rush gets a ton from WSJ, Lucianne.com, Powerline, and a few others, not sure if he goes direct to LGF.

He does. I've heard him mention LGF. Rush has the balls to say it unlike fox.

232 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:29:27pm
233 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:29:29pm

re: #212 Ma Sands

re: #200 bikermailman

Reminds me, though, sort of like India after the tsunami --won't readily accept help from anyone...

A good Christian always tries. Not, unfortunately, that I'm a very good Christian.

234 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:30:14pm

re: #227 Cognito

I just wish Charles would share his hoard of Gamy Moonbat Buttocks with the rest of us minions.

235 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:30:38pm

re: #233 bikermailman

re: #212 Ma Sands

re: #200 bikermailman

Reminds me, though, sort of like India after the tsunami --won't readily accept help from anyone...

A good Christian always tries. Not, unfortunately, that I'm a very good Christian.

Well, um... thank you for all you've done for me.

236 itellu3times  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:30:38pm

re: #223 Cognito

With acknowledgement, dude.
Not so much, I'd say. You tend to see the words "Associated Press" or "mainstream media" only when they're coming in for criticism. Otherwise there might be a link, but there's little incentive to follow it, as the critical portion is frequently excerpted.

That's not necessarily wrong, but I think it does sometimes at least tiptoe to the edge of Fair Use.

Well OK, you have a technical point there, I note that Lucianne.com is MUCH more careful to feature their attribution and limit the copied text, but I think she's way to the safe, or simply old-school, style of things. If there's not direct viewer payment, and the source is already online, and you provide a link, and you do not try to pass the content off as your own, I think that pretty much describes current standards, whether engraved in laws at this point or just very widespread precedent.

237 DistantThunder  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:30:54pm

BLOCKQUOTE>Personally, I think he's done some crazy chimera genetic voodoo on the hamsters. He's out on the bike, or out cold and it's the durned hamsters talking to us!

I contend that Charles is a giant brain in a jar connected to a keyboard. (The guy who appears on TV is just a clever hologram.)

It's why most liberals are intimidated by LGF - it is from an advanced civilization.

238 Ma Sands  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:31:33pm

re: #230 DistantThunder

The date is from last Friday, the 21st...got any updates on the story...?

239 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:31:55pm

re: #223 Cognito

He links to the work- how is that not giving credit?

240 ratherdashing  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:32:06pm

re: #223 Cognito

Jumping in here. The AP or Reuters reporter must appreciate the traffic driven to his/her piece that the blogs generate. Charles, in that way, is doing them a favor. That concept should work downstream as well. Fox or Glenn Beck or Rush could, with a quick hat tip, drive some traffic this way. The ad revenue would be the later reward, I guess.

241 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:32:22pm

re: #236 itellu3times

re: #223 Cognito

With acknowledgement, dude.
Not so much, I'd say. You tend to see the words "Associated Press" or "mainstream media" only when they're coming in for criticism. Otherwise there might be a link, but there's little incentive to follow it, as the critical portion is frequently excerpted.That's not necessarily wrong, but I think it does sometimes at least tiptoe to the edge of Fair Use.
Well OK, you have a technical point there, I note that Lucianne.com is MUCH more careful to feature their attribution and limit the copied text, but I think she's way to the safe, or simply old-school, style of things. If there's not direct viewer payment, and the source is already online, and you provide a link, and you do not try to pass the content off as your own, I think that pretty much describes current standards, whether engraved in laws at this point or just very widespread precedent.

What you're describing isn't "what's fair" so much as "what we can get away with." And those are the rules everyone is playing by these days, including the billion-dollar cable outfits.

242 Ma Sands  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:32:50pm

re: #233 bikermailman

No one can be, actually...it is well that the One we follow is, though... :)
You do well, for that matter.

243 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:33:29pm

re: #223 Cognito

Otherwise there might be a link, but there's little incentive to follow it

That is on the reader, not Charles. Quit being disingenuous.

244 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:33:55pm

re: #225 juan

Thanks for welcoming me in the "Mighty Lizaroid Army." I know Charles is our "Great Leader" and we will Prevail. No SURRENDER here!

Young blood is always needed to keep the old farts pumped up, in any endeavour. Looks like you have young blood, and we certainly have a bunch of gassy farts!

245 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:34:52pm

re: #240 ratherdashing

re: #223 Cognito

Jumping in here. The AP or Reuters reporter must appreciate the traffic driven to his/her piece that the blogs generate. Charles, in that way, is doing them a favor. That concept should work downstream as well. Fox or Glenn Beck or Rush could, with a quick hat tip, drive some traffic this way. The ad revenue would be the later reward, I guess.

A great many of those reporters and publishers would disagree. There's a tremendous amount of money and energy going into the study of whether giving away content -- which is what those people are doing when they upload their work -- benefits the source.

For instance, Google has mastered legal theft, in many ways, and I suspect the roof will fall in on them before long.

246 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:35:14pm

This also proves that Commercial Journalism is lazy and non existent. Real Journalism is alive in blogs. The MSM is just leaching as they always do.

247 swamprat  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:35:30pm

re: #179 Cognito

Charles,

Honestly -- what's up? You use other people's work every day.

Every day.

Come on, man.



How dare he! What hypocrisy!

248 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:35:53pm

re: #246 Egfrow

This also proves that Commercial Journalism is lazy and non existent. Real Journalism is alive in blogs. The MSM is just leaching as they always do.

Some would say it's quite the other way around, in some instances more than others.

249 Geepers  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:36:25pm

Cognito says:

Not so much, I'd say. You tend to see the words "Associated Press" or "mainstream media" only when they're coming in for criticism. Otherwise there might be a link, but there's little incentive to follow it, as the critical portion is frequently excerpted.

There "might" be a link. Too funny.

Now I know why you're in love with the MSM. You have the same ideals of truthiness.

And interestingly enough Charles exonerating us to "read the whole thing" appears 2,748 times on the front page.

250 Charles  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:36:36pm

re: #179 Cognito

Charles,

Honestly -- what's up? You use other people's work every day.

Every day.

Come on, man.

And I give them credit, as you well know.

251 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:36:49pm

re: #235 Cognito

re: #233 bikermailman


re: #212 Ma Sands
re: #200 bikermailman
Reminds me, though, sort of like India after the tsunami --won't readily accept help from anyone...
A good Christian always tries. Not, unfortunately, that I'm a very good Christian.

Well, um... thank you for all you've done for me.

Bah. Don't know that I've done much of anything, except stay away from jumping into the fray. I've debated a point or two, but I try to stay out of scuffles. I'm a luva, not a fighta! hahahha

252 bcgirl  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:36:59pm

I've heard LGF headlines on Michale Savage too, and I live where it is recorded so when he mouths off with his, you only hear this here,, I am screaming into my car radiom(on the way home from work) no wayI read that on LGF before work! but I can't call him to call him on it! Charles,, I know that you do all the work, but I saw a comment up top that says it for me,
being here makes me much, much more informed than my friends, co- workers and just people I meet, like that other poster said, sometimes it takes days before they hear (what I already told them) on the mSm, if ever that is.
thank you for everything you do.

re: #91 zombie

re: #2 meMarc


Huh?

re: #1 WrathofG-d

Did I miss something?

Take it from me: Fox News (and several other MSM networks and programs) get a substantial portion of their "tips" straight from LGF.

Believe me, I know this for a fact. Was told it directly by not just one but two different Fox producers. Also, the same holds true for the Michael Savage show -- I have it from the horse's mouth. And the list goes on...

I think Charles is finally "putting them on notice." One can weary of being a content provider for no pay whatsoever. I had the same reaction, and finally starting charging corporate news organizations if they want to use my material. Pro-active and retroactive if I find out about it.

253 itellu3times  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:37:14pm

re: #241 Cognito

What you're describing isn't "what's fair" so much as "what we can get away with." And those are the rules everyone is playing by these days, including the billion-dollar cable outfits.

That's life.

But if it's grossly unfair, you try for a resolution. Maybe Charles' current situation with Fox is right on that borderline. Maybe if they just slip him into Kevin Southerland's slot in 24 while he's in stir, or write him into the plot and let him play LizardBoy, mysterious blogger with untraceable connections to his zombie (sic) army, it would square accounts.

254 Charles  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:38:25pm

Everyone uses other people's work. Welcome to the real world. The difference is that the big media use it without credit.

255 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:38:44pm

re: #249 Geepers

You know he hates it when you fact check his *ss.

/And I love it when you do.

256 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:39:15pm

You all oughta know by now that now matter how well you pin Cognito down, he'll never admit that he's wrong.

I think there's a word for that...

257 yenta-fada  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:41:07pm

Wow! usatoday gets the Mega-head memo:

By Meg Kinnard, Associated Press
COLUMBIA, S.C. — A college student facing a terrorism-related charge made a video showing how to detonate explosives using a remote-controlled toy, and the demonstration was uploaded to a popular website before he was arrested, according to court documents.
Ahmed Abdellatif Sherif Mohamed, who was indicted last month on federal charges, told authorities he made the video "to assist those persons in Arabic countries to defend themselves against the infidels invading their countries," according to an FBI agent's sworn statement filed Tuesday

lgf knows the rest and more!

258 bcgirl  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:41:42pm

re: #108 WhiteRasta

Does it count that the message gets out all the more...?

Yes, to a certain extent.

LGF is a commercial business and our Lizard Leader is entitled to make a profit for his diligence and hard work.

How else would he pay his followers their Zionist cheques, every month?


yea,,heheheheh

259 Noam Sayin'  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:42:00pm

re: #249 Geepers

Oh! Burn...

260 Greensoccer  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:42:28pm

Absolutely. We have the laziest media in the world. They look on your site and they pick their stories. Each one that uses your stories should be giving you a salary's worth of donations for the person they don't have to employ at their station. And that includes the conservative radio talk show hosts Prager, Savage,

261 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:42:48pm

re: #256 Noam Sayin'

"Disingenuous"?

262 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:42:57pm

re: #255 Sharmuta

re: #249 Geepers

You know he hates it when you fact check his *ss.

/And I love it when you do.

Righto.

263 realwest  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:43:25pm

OT but OUTRAGEOUS - sorry if this has been posted before but:

Blackwater under spotlight over Fallujah incident
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. security contractor Blackwater, under investigation in the shooting deaths of 11 Iraqis this month, came under criticism again on Thursday over an ambush in 2004 in which four of its staff were killed.

A report by the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Oversight and Government Reform detailed a chaotic run-up to the March 31, 2004 incident in Fallujah when four Blackwater employees escorting a convoy were killed and their charred bodies hung from a bridge.

Gruesome photos of their mutilated bodies were published in major newspapers and the incident turned American public opinion sharply against the war. A few days later, the U.S. military launched a major offensive in Fallujah.


The report by Democrat Rep. Henry Waxman's committee criticized Blackwater for ignoring "multiple warnings" of the dangers of going into Fallujah and of sending staff into the "hottest zone in Iraq in unarmored, underpowered vehicles."

Blackwater rejected the conclusions of the report, calling it a "one-sided version of this tragic incident."

"What the report fails to acknowledge is that the terrorists determined what happened that fateful day in 2004," the company said in a statement.

"The terrorists were intent on killing Americans and desecrating their bodies. Documents that the committee has in its possession point out that the Blackwater team was betrayed and directed into a well-planned ambush," it added.
[Link: today.reuters.com...]
Just fucking great - these "mercenaries" as Kos called them are now being held responsible, somehow, for Blackwater's sending them out on convoy security and for their deaths and the hanging of their bodies on a bridge just outside Fallujah.
Just when I thought Congress could go no lower, they bring in a backhoe.

264 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:43:29pm

re: #252 bcgirl

I've heard LGF headlines on Michale Savage too, and I live where it is recorded so when he mouths off with his, you only hear this here,, I am screaming into my car radiom(on the way home from work) no wayI read that on LGF before work! but I can't call him to call him on it! Charles,, I know that you do all the work, but I saw a comment up top that says it for me,
being here makes me much, much more informed than my friends, co- workers and just people I meet, like that other poster said, sometimes it takes days before they hear (what I already told them) on the mSm, if ever that is.
thank you for everything you do.

re: #91 zombie


re: #2 meMarc

Huh?

re: #1 WrathofG-d

Did I miss something?

Take it from me: Fox News (and several other MSM networks and programs) get a substantial portion of their "tips" straight from LGF.
Believe me, I know this for a fact. Was told it directly by not just one but two different Fox producers. Also, the same holds true for the Michael Savage show -- I have it from the horse's mouth. And the list goes on...

I think Charles is finally "putting them on notice." One can weary of being a content provider for no pay whatsoever. I had the same reaction, and finally starting charging corporate news organizations if they want to use my material. Pro-active and retroactive if I find out about it.

That's a peeve of mine...you hear some of the radio guys saying 'I'm the only place you're going to hear this' or some variation thereof. Bill O is the worst on that one. I shout back at my radio, wondering why, if that's the case, I heard about it earlier in the day on Glenn, Rush, Sean and Medved? Not to mention LGF, HA, and all the other blogs?

265 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:44:46pm

re: #262 Cognito

Geepers- doing the job the msm is just not capable of doing by running a simple internet search.

266 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:45:44pm

re: #254 Charles

Everyone uses other people's work. Welcome to the real world. The difference is that the big media use it without credit.

You're right --- but "real" doesn't mean "right."

I'm with you that Fox should acknowledge your work more directly. But it's a tool that both cuts and heals. Fox has done a lot for the likes of you and Malkin.

267 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:46:02pm

re: #265 Sharmuta

re: #262 Cognito

Geepers- doing the job the msm is just not capable of doing by running a simple internet search.

All right.

268 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:46:30pm

re: #80 WrathofG-d

I've never owned a TV in my life.

And I'm in my 58th year.

So at least from this poster, readers are getting some views from another viewpoint.

I read history books...

269 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:46:31pm

re: #248 Cognito

The best stories and the top stories of the last few years have come from Blogs as a source. This is more than ample evidence of this.

270 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:46:54pm

re: #266 Cognito

re: #254 Charles

Everyone uses other people's work. Welcome to the real world. The difference is that the big media use it without credit.
You're right --- but "real" doesn't mean "right."

I'm with you that Fox should acknowledge your work more directly. But it's a tool that both cuts and heals. Fox has done a lot for the likes of you and Malkin.

And deservedly so, I should add. I'm glad to have learned about LGF -- like I said, if I didn't enjoy it, I wouldn't be a daily reader.

271 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:47:01pm

re: #235 Cognito

re: #233 bikermailman


re: #212 Ma Sands
re: #200 bikermailman
Reminds me, though, sort of like India after the tsunami --won't readily accept help from anyone...
A good Christian always tries. Not, unfortunately, that I'm a very good Christian.

Well, um... thank you for all you've done for me.


Not India, Indonesia. IIRC, nesos is the Attican Greek word for island. So, Indonesia means 'Indian islands'. Most of India's Muslims moved to Pakistan and Bangladesh (East Pakistan) after the partition, leaving a majority Hindu state. Obviously, enough Muslims left to bomb the occasional commuter train, plaza where families with youung children gather for picnics, and attack the Indian parliament from time to time.

272 Shaky Louie  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:47:13pm

This just in on local CBS station...
The US Navy has discovered a building with an "unusual"
shape. More on this story after tonights episode of Survivour.
.
Now, let's see...where did I hear that two days ago!?
MSM-- scooped again by LGF!

273 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:47:18pm

re: #269 Egfrow

re: #248 Cognito

The best stories and the top stories of the last few years have come from Blogs as a source. This is more than ample evidence of this.

Um, no.

274 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:47:27pm

re: #266 Cognito

You're right --- but "real" doesn't mean "right."

I've researched this, and you are correct. The definition of the word "real" is not the same as the definition of the word "right". Good job, Cog!

275 sbvft contributor  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:47:45pm

bcgirl -

Agreed. Savage MOST DEFINITELY mines LGF for material. I think there's a reluctance by many talk radio hosts (especially Savage) to acknowledge how much they now utilize blogs for show content. Part of it though is self-preservation. I think many hosts feel that if they were to continually reference blogs, well then it could result in listeners just removing the middleman (talk radio host) and going straight to the blogs for info.

276 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:48:09pm

re: #268 Ojoe

re: #80 WrathofG-d

I've never owned a TV in my life.

And I'm in my 58th year.

So at least from this poster, readers are getting some views from another viewpoint.

I read history books...


That isn't right? How do you watch college football road games?

277 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:48:10pm

re: #254 Charles

Everyone uses other people's work. Welcome to the real world. The difference is that the big media use it without credit.

Charles, does big media pay attention to this example of a minor and often overlooked detail:


© 2007 Little Green Footballs
All Rights Reserved

278 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:48:11pm

re: #274 Sharmuta

re: #266 Cognito

You're right --- but "real" doesn't mean "right."
I've researched this, and you are correct. The definition of the word "real" is not the same as the definition of the word "right". Good job, Cog!

Maybe grown-up conversations are a mistake, here.

279 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:48:21pm

re: #184 bcgirl

I bet POTUS reads here, hell he invited Uncle Jimbo of Blackfive to the white house.

280 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:49:33pm

re: #268 Ojoe

re: #80 WrathofG-d

I've never owned a TV in my life.

And I'm in my 58th year.

So at least from this poster, readers are getting some views from another viewpoint.

I read history books...

Ohhh...now I get it... You've failed to fill your head with mush all these years, and you've (gasp! argh!) learned historical perspective! Off to the camps with you!

281 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:50:04pm

re: #276 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Well, I listen to baseball on the radio sometimes, & If I'm at my mom's, helping her (she's 85) I unavoidably watch some TV being with her, 'cause she watches some. Mostly it's awful stuff.

282 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:50:48pm

re: #280 bikermailman

"return for regrooving" (Firesign Theater).

283 Ojoe  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:51:22pm

re: #279 Ojoe

Isn't that right, George?


Good Night All.

284 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:51:28pm

re: #278 Cognito

And maybe your condescension has grown old. Your initial, implied charge that Charles doesn't give credit to the original source is pure bullsh*t.

285 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:51:53pm

re: #284 Sharmuta

re: #278 Cognito

And maybe your condescension has grown old. Your initial, implied charge that Charles doesn't give credit to the original source is pure bullsh*t.

ok

286 Highrise  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:52:04pm

re: #192 Cognito

re: #181 bikermailman


Cog, my guess is, you are in for a smackdown.

It's not a junior-high schoolyard. There's no 'smackdown,' and if there is, that's fine by me. But I don't mind being straightforward about this sort of thing.

Straight forward?

Are you joking me?

You came in and actually admitted that you come here to play devil's advocate just so you can learn more.

The least you can do is actually admit that LGF does a great job. I know way more from LGF and drudge than I would if I relied on the MSM. Maybe you are too pansy to admit it. Atleast now people know why you like to play contrarian. Seriously, folks, click the link..he SAYS why.

Stop being a jerk.

287 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:52:33pm

re: #271 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

re: #235 Cognito


re: #233 bikermailman

re: #212 Ma Sands
re: #200 bikermailman
Reminds me, though, sort of like India after the tsunami --won't readily accept help from anyone...
A good Christian always tries. Not, unfortunately, that I'm a very good Christian.

Well, um... thank you for all you've done for me.

Not India, Indonesia. IIRC, nesos is the Attican Greek word for island. So, Indonesia means 'Indian islands'. Most of India's Muslims moved to Pakistan and Bangladesh (East Pakistan) after the partition, leaving a majority Hindu state. Obviously, enough Muslims left to bomb the occasional commuter train, plaza where families with youung children gather for picnics, and attack the Indian parliament from time to time.

Over 100 Million muslims in India. Way over, IIRC.

288 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:52:53pm

re: #286 Highrise

re: #192 Cognito

re: #181 bikermailman

Cog, my guess is, you are in for a smackdown.

It's not a junior-high schoolyard. There's no 'smackdown,' and if there is, that's fine by me. But I don't mind being straightforward about this sort of thing.
Straight forward?

Are you joking me?

You came in and actually admitted that you come here to play devil's advocate just so you can learn more.

The least you can do is actually admit that LGF does a great job. I know way more from LGF and drudge than I would if I relied on the MSM. Maybe you are too pansy to admit it. Atleast now people know why you like to play contrarian. Seriously, folks, click the link..he SAYS why.

Stop being a jerk.

ok

289 ctrlL  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:53:48pm

re: #59 cookielady

Ok, the best way to look at it is this: the wire services and even the networks have specialists, in reporting and researching. LGF is pretty much a specialist in the area of the ROP and the WoT. Why shouldn't one of the researchers at Fox use this blog to jumpstart the things that they are looking into doing stories about? (yes, I know that is improper grammar)

It is a compliment that they trust LGF and Charles enough to use him as a resource and check the pulse of many Americans at the same time.

Lizards Rule! The Lizardmaster Rules!

I have not finished reading but this thought comes to mind ... with "legitimate" news services, credit is given and people are paid for information that is new and usable. It's what keeps the journalism industry alive and well.
/did I just suggest that Charles is a journalist ? ;-)

290 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:53:51pm

re: #288 Cognito

re: #286 Highrise

re: #192 Cognito

re: #181 bikermailman


Cog, my guess is, you are in for a smackdown.


It's not a junior-high schoolyard. There's no 'smackdown,' and if there is, that's fine by me. But I don't mind being straightforward about this sort of thing.

Straight forward?Are you joking me?

You came in and actually admitted that you come here to play devil's advocate just so you can learn more.

The least you can do is actually admit that LGF does a great job. I know way more from LGF and drudge than I would if I relied on the MSM. Maybe you are too pansy to admit it. Atleast now people know why you like to play contrarian. Seriously, folks, click the link..he SAYS why.

Stop being a jerk.

ok

Wow that ended peacefully

291 Highrise  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:54:10pm

Charles,

Thanks for all that you do. People have said more and above what I could possibly say.

I appreciate your work. I hope you can turn that into a lively hood moreso..as you deserve it. I will forever be grateful for the info you have provided me to make decisions for my family.

292 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:54:49pm

re: #271 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

According to Time magazine, in 2003, there were 150 million muslims.

293 russiankulak  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:55:14pm

re: #17 savage_nation
I second the motion.

294 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:56:04pm

Oh, both friends and enemies of all levels read here. I also assume many that won't even be acknowledged. That issue of LGF not being quoted more often is a matter of perception of a smear campaign that has been relentless from the MSM and lefty blogs. Yet, despite that this site is still sourced, what does that say about some of the people who refuse to acknowledge that in public.

We are all living in a big self induced lie about what we think is reality.

295 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:56:31pm

No matter who ignores you for cutting into "their" turf, Charles, I say- You ROCK!

296 Ma Sands  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:56:34pm

re: #271 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

When the tsunami hit Sri Lanka, the tip of India was protected, but, if you recall, ravaged was the eastern coast of the mainland...on that tip, protected from massive death by Sri Lanka having taken the brunt, is Amy Carmichael's people, in the compound "the Dohnavur Fellowship", where children rescued from temple prostitution of old, and other horrible fates, are raised in the love of the Lord, and taught trades -- given a home, in other words...well, after the tsunami, these children gave all their toys and all their clothes except what they had on their backs, put it all on wagons pulled by oxen, and the older women drove those wagons, filled also with foodstuffs and other necessities, all the way up the coast, stopping at each affected village, giving relief to the sufferers...still makes me cry to think of those precious children... :)

297 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 8:59:28pm

re: #289 ctrlL

re: #59 cookielady


Ok, the best way to look at it is this: the wire services and even the networks have specialists, in reporting and researching. LGF is pretty much a specialist in the area of the ROP and the WoT. Why shouldn't one of the researchers at Fox use this blog to jumpstart the things that they are looking into doing stories about? (yes, I know that is improper grammar)

It is a compliment that they trust LGF and Charles enough to use him as a resource and check the pulse of many Americans at the same time.

Lizards Rule! The Lizardmaster Rules!


I have not finished reading but this thought comes to mind ... with "legitimate" news services, credit is given and people are paid for information that is new and usable. It's what keeps the journalism industry alive and well.
/did I just suggest that Charles is a journalist ? ;-)

I've commented ranted more than once in here about the blogs and webzines being the new home of real journalism. The 'real' journalism began to end when they started teaching advocacy journalism in the j-schools.

298 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:00:25pm

I guarantee that if half the people who have blogs have been dragged through the mud and attacked as much as Charles, they all be in the fetus position sucking their thumbs in a dark corner.

You have to have a very thick reptilian skin, so to speak to even get it without being scared.

299 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:01:08pm

re: #298 Egfrow

All true.

300 FishFearMe  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:01:27pm

Within the last few days, LGF got a hat tip from Laurua Ingraham.

301 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:01:43pm

re: #299 Cognito

re: #298 Egfrow

All true.

heh

302 Ma Sands  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:01:57pm

re: #298 Egfrow

Like General Petraeus. :)

303 Shaky Louie  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:02:33pm

re: #294 Egfrow

We are all living in a big self induced lie about what we think is reality.


"What is reality anyway? Nothing more than a collective hunch." ___Lilly Tomlin

Heh!TM

304 Charles  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:03:35pm

re: #275 sbvft contributor

bcgirl -

Agreed. Savage MOST DEFINITELY mines LGF for material. I think there's a reluctance by many talk radio hosts (especially Savage) to acknowledge how much they now utilize blogs for show content. Part of it though is self-preservation. I think many hosts feel that if they were to continually reference blogs, well then it could result in listeners just removing the middleman (talk radio host) and going straight to the blogs for info.

Bingo!

305 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:06:56pm

Charles this is what LGF is not about

Dirty Laundry

Only the facts are presented here, only the facts.

306 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:09:12pm

Charles, this won't offer real comfort, I know, but for what it's worth, broadcast and cable media have been ripping off newspapers forever. To the point where print journalists can only laugh about it. People think the big cable outfits set the agenda because they're splashy -- but the top papers lead television around by its nose.

307 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:09:21pm

re: #304 Charles

We all knew this is going to be a long hard battle. There is no instant gratification in doing any of this. We all know there is much farther to go. I can guarantee this, we will look back at all of this several years from now and not regret a damned thing and we did make a small difference. We all have allot personally at stake. Not many outside these blog sphere are aware of what's going on yet. The way things are happening, no one will have a choice to ignore any more.

We can all say, we were here when it all happened!

308 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:09:50pm

re: #300 FishFearMe

Within the last few days, LGF got a hat tip from Laurua Ingraham.

Ahhh...the 'Ingrahammer'. Another up and comer. Let's put her and John Bolton in charge of State. They'll clean house.

309 juan  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:10:17pm

R: #275
bcgirl -

Agreed. Savage MOST DEFINITELY mines LGF for material. I think there's a reluctance by many talk radio hosts (especially Savage) to acknowledge how much they now utilize blogs for show content. Part of it though is self-preservation. I think many hosts feel that if they were to continually reference blogs, well then it could result in listeners just removing the middleman (talk radio host) and going straight to the blogs for info.

That's why they (all MSM and Talk Radio) are hesitant about giving "the Blogs" too much credit. They're worried about job security.

310 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:12:41pm

When ever someone's got to build a tunnel or take on a new un-charterd path. Many will stand by and watch as the innovator treks onward, laughing, ridiculing, questioning. When the road is finally paved by the lonely and dirty worker, they will be all more than ready to take the credit.

311 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:13:25pm
312 juan  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:13:31pm

RE: 307
History in the making. Maybe we could have a "Blog Fest" somewhere. I would go.

313 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:13:35pm

re: #306 Cognito

Charles, this won't offer real comfort, I know, but for what it's worth, broadcast and cable media have been ripping off newspapers forever. To the point where print journalists can only laugh about it. People think the big cable outfits set the agenda because they're splashy -- but the top papers lead television around by its nose.

Rush has said it a thousand times: The NYT sets the agenda for the news business across the country. That's why it matters when they do agenda journalism. Not just the large market media, but every small town paper and every local radio news (national) is set by what the NYT, and to a lesser extent, Newsweek and a few others say.

314 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:13:42pm

re: #304 Charles

Randi Rhodes rips from you on occasion as well, but in the same way Kos does.

315 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:14:03pm

re: #312 juan

I only wish it was time to celebrate!

316 Mauser  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:14:51pm

re: #218 bikermailmanUseless trivia, btw: The first video ever played on MTV.

They play videos on MTV?

317 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:15:46pm

re: #311 savage_nation

re: #305 kreigwagon


Charles this is what LGF is not about

Dirty Laundry

Only the facts are presented here, only the facts.


Wow, that is a great remix!

Did you catch the news sign at the first? Sketchy Independent News Network...SINN

318 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:15:55pm

re: #316 Mauser

re: #218 bikermailmanUseless trivia, btw: The first video ever played on MTV.

They play videos on MTV?

Back in the days when we used to listen to LPs and cassettes

319 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:16:25pm

re: #313 bikermailman

Yep, that's what I was saying -- although I didn't mention the NYT specifically because some folks really get... upset...

320 stevieray  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:17:27pm

re: #272 Shaky Louie

This just in on local CBS station...
The US Navy has discovered a building with an "unusual"
shape. More on this story after tonights episode of Survivour.
.
Now, let's see...where did I hear that two days ago!?
MSM-- scooped again by LGF!

Just curious... what "unusual" shaped building are you talking about? That doesn't ring any bell for me... I hate missing stuff.

321 diamond_dog_efl  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:19:16pm

it is about about the connections of certain sites that provide the right information. drudge pull me to Malkin which pull me to both LGF and JW and then I felt I was home. The blogs have really provide a way for thinking folks to work through the BS.

322 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:19:31pm
323 Mauser  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:19:37pm

re: #304 Charles

re: #275 sbvft contributor

bcgirl -

Agreed. Savage MOST DEFINITELY mines LGF for material. I think there's a reluctance by many talk radio hosts (especially Savage) to acknowledge how much they now utilize blogs for show content. Part of it though is self-preservation. I think many hosts feel that if they were to continually reference blogs, well then it could result in listeners just removing the middleman (talk radio host) and going straight to the blogs for info.

Bingo!

But is Fox reading you, then quoting the original source, eliminating you as the middleman?

I dunno, I think I'd be more happy with secretly pulling the strings behind the scenes than being known for it.

324 Egfrow  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:19:48pm

I'll be heading out to the Cali to live next summer. I'll help Charles work on Web3.0.

325 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:19:50pm

re: #316 Mauser

re: #218 bikermailmanUseless trivia, btw: The first video ever played on MTV.

They play videos on MTV?

I'm going to tell you a story: once upon a time, looong looong ago...

326 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:20:16pm
327 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:21:24pm

re: #319 Cognito

re: #313 bikermailman

Yep, that's what I was saying -- although I didn't mention the NYT specifically because some folks really get... upset...

Story of my life...lol

328 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:21:39pm

re: #272 Shaky Louie

This just in on local CBS station...
The US Navy has discovered a building with an "unusual"
shape. More on this story after tonights episode of Survivour.
.
Now, let's see...where did I hear that two days ago!?
MSM-- scooped again by LGF!

This is sorta what I'm talking about... CBS didn't pull that story from LGF. And LGF didn't "scoop" the mainstream media. That was an Associated Press story.

329 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:22:31pm

re: #327 bikermailman

re: #319 Cognito


re: #313 bikermailman

Yep, that's what I was saying -- although I didn't mention the NYT specifically because some folks really get... upset...


Story of my life...lol
330 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:22:52pm

re: #322 savage_nation

re: #318 kreigwagon

re: #316 Mauser

re: #218 bikermailmanUseless trivia, btw: The first video ever played on MTV.

They play videos on MTV?

Back in the days when we used to listen to LPs and cassettes

Don't forget reel to reel and eight tracks.. :)

I used to listen to my mom's old 45 and 78 collections and remember 4 track tapes before 8 track tape. American Bandstand the real mtv

331 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:23:44pm

re: #329 bikermailman

re: #327 bikermailman


re: #319 Cognito

re: #313 bikermailman
Yep, that's what I was saying -- although I didn't mention the NYT specifically because some folks really get... upset...

Story of my life...lol

I hate it when that happens...click something on accident. Anywhooo...I meant to clarify the previous: people being upset with me - story of my life.

332 Mauser  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:23:49pm

re: #318 kreigwagon

re: #316 Mauser

re: #218 bikermailmanUseless trivia, btw: The first video ever played on MTV.

They play videos on MTV?

Back in the days when we used to listen to LPs and cassettes

I remember that. Hell, I'm almost 42. But then they created MTV2 to play videos since they didn't have time for them. And now they use it to play re-runs of "reality" shows.

How can they have "Video Music Awards" if they don't play Music videos?

333 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:24:02pm
334 ChildOfMary  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:24:29pm

re: #307 Egfrow

We all knew this is going to be a long hard battle. There is no instant gratification in doing any of this. We all know there is much farther to go. I can guarantee this, we will look back at all of this several years from now and not regret a damned thing and we did make a small difference.

Long, hard, tiring, discouraging, aggravating at times -- didn't you just want to scream when no media talking head commented on Ahmadinejad opening and ending his speech with a call for the Mahdi and his repeated nvitation for all in the world to convert? They kept babbling on about way less important things.

Anyway, I for one am grateful to Charles and grateful to everyone here for all that I learn here and therefore all that I can work to pass on to others.

Does anyone else remember this Fitzgerald piece? I read it again when I get too tired and disgusted:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/015460.php

335 Shaky Louie  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:26:06pm

re: #320 stevieray
I was ref. to a building that, from the air, can be seen as shaped like a swaztica(sp?). And now, for the life of me, I can't remember just where this building is located. And if that's not bad enough, I can't remember who posted that story!
A little help, lizards?

336 Mauser  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:27:15pm

re: #333 savage_nation

4 track tapes? wow, never heard of them.

Well, Technically an 8-track uses two tracks per program for stereo, so it really has just for "Tracks" of music.

My sister once had a "Hi-Fi" that could actually RECORD 8-track tapes. Only one I have ever seen.

337 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:27:54pm

re: #328 Cognito

re: #272 Shaky Louie


This just in on local CBS station...
The US Navy has discovered a building with an "unusual"
shape. More on this story after tonights episode of Survivour.
.
Now, let's see...where did I hear that two days ago!?
MSM-- scooped again by LGF!

This is sorta what I'm talking about... CBS didn't pull that story from LGF. And LGF didn't "scoop" the mainstream media. That was an Associated Press story.

It wasn't a 'scoop' in the true sense of the word. However, it was picked up on LGF, which meant it got picked up on every other blog around, which gave it steam. It probably got enough attention after a couple days that a producer at CBS saw it, here or otherwise, and deemed it worthy of coverage. It might have never gotten covered by CBS if not for the snowball effect of LGF and the blogosphere giving it steam. Just my analysis, anyway.

338 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:28:09pm

re: #333 savage_nation

re: #330 kreigwagon

re: #322 savage_nation

re: #318 kreigwagon

re: #316 Mauser

re: #218 bikermailmanUseless trivia, btw: The first video ever played on MTV.

They play videos on MTV?

Back in the days when we used to listen to LPs and cassettes

Don't forget reel to reel and eight tracks.. :)

I used to listen to my mom's old 45 and 78 collections and remember 4 track tapes before 8 track tape. American Bandstand the real mtv

4 track tapes? wow, never heard of them.

Stereo-Pak/4 track

The Stereo-Pak differs from Stereo 8 in its 1/4" magnetic tape contains four data (music) tracks, whereas 8-tracks have twice the tracks in the same amount of space. Thus, 4-track tapes have the potential for higher audio fidelity.

The main difference in 4-track cartridge design from 8-tracks is that 4-tracks lack a built-in pinch roller (usually made out of rubber or plastic) which would grip and help move the tape; a hole is left in the cartridge for a pinch roller to be inserted from inside the 4-track player itself. The large opening in the bottom of the 4-track cartridge, for admission of the pinch roller, leaves 4-track tapes more susceptible to trapping dirt and other substances besides those normally found inside cartridges, and requires a greater level of mechanical complexity in the player, as the pinch roller must be inserted and retracted laterally.

339 zmdavid  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:28:17pm

I think Fox News acknowledges internet journalists if they are attractive and female and willing to go on camera.

340 joan  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:29:10pm

re: #295 Sharmuta

No matter who ignores you for cutting into "their" turf, Charles, I say- You ROCK!

Motion Carried *gavel*

/sharmuta, wish i'd said that

341 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:29:33pm

re: #337 bikermailman

re: #328 Cognito

re: #272 Shaky Louie

This just in on local CBS station...
The US Navy has discovered a building with an "unusual"
shape. More on this story after tonights episode of Survivour.
.
Now, let's see...where did I hear that two days ago!?
MSM-- scooped again by LGF!

This is sorta what I'm talking about... CBS didn't pull that story from LGF. And LGF didn't "scoop" the mainstream media. That was an Associated Press story.
It wasn't a 'scoop' in the true sense of the word. However, it was picked up on LGF, which meant it got picked up on every other blog around, which gave it steam. It probably got enough attention after a couple days that a producer at CBS saw it, here or otherwise, and deemed it worthy of coverage. It might have never gotten covered by CBS if not for the snowball effect of LGF and the blogosphere giving it steam. Just my analysis, anyway.

Nah. CBS subscribes to AP.

342 Shaky Louie  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:30:03pm

re: #328 Cognito


This is sorta what I'm talking about... CBS didn't pull that story from LGF. And LGF didn't "scoop" the mainstream media. That was an Associated Press story.


Oh, OK, Thank you.

"See (s)he IS smart!"___South Park

343 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:30:59pm

re: #334 ChildOfMary

re: #307 Egfrow


We all knew this is going to be a long hard battle. There is no instant gratification in doing any of this. We all know there is much farther to go. I can guarantee this, we will look back at all of this several years from now and not regret a damned thing and we did make a small difference.

Long, hard, tiring, discouraging, aggravating at times -- didn't you just want to scream when no media talking head commented on Ahmadinejad opening and ending his speech with a call for the Mahdi and his repeated nvitation for all in the world to convert? They kept babbling on about way less important things.

Anyway, I for one am grateful to Charles and grateful to everyone here for all that I learn here and therefore all that I can work to pass on to others.

Does anyone else remember this Fitzgerald piece? I read it again when I get too tired and disgusted:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/01546 0.php

Actually, the big change this year was the fact that while in the previous two years, Ahneedajihad closed his speech with a call for the mahdi to come, this year, things changed with him opening his speech with the same call. Still no analysis. Or comment. Or anything. Your comments hold.

344 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:31:44pm
345 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:32:46pm
346 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:33:58pm

re: #341 Cognito

re: #337 bikermailman


re: #328 Cognito
re: #272 Shaky Louie

This just in on local CBS station...
The US Navy has discovered a building with an "unusual"
shape. More on this story after tonights episode of Survivour.
.
Now, let's see...where did I hear that two days ago!?
MSM-- scooped again by LGF!

This is sorta what I'm talking about... CBS didn't pull that story from LGF. And LGF didn't "scoop" the mainstream media. That was an Associated Press story.
It wasn't a 'scoop' in the true sense of the word. However, it was picked up on LGF, which meant it got picked up on every other blog around, which gave it steam. It probably got enough attention after a couple days that a producer at CBS saw it, here or otherwise, and deemed it worthy of coverage. It might have never gotten covered by CBS if not for the snowball effect of LGF and the blogosphere giving it steam. Just my analysis, anyway.

Nah. CBS subscribes to AP.

Now, there you go, I go and type up all those durned words, using my feeble brain power up to do it, and you come back with five words. sheesh.

347 stevieray  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:36:17pm

re: #335 Shaky Louie

re: #326 savage_nation

Thanks guy! I missed this story... probably skimmed past it while trying to read comments and watch football/baseball at the same time. I need more hours in a day (don't we all).

348 juan  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:37:20pm

RE: 315 by Egfrow

I only wish it was time to celebrate!

It's always time. I'm doing it now.

349 Mauser  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:38:51pm

re: #338 kreigwagon

Ah, those 4-track cartridges are actually still in use in radio stations, usually called "Carts". Well, at least they were when I was in college radio, and for quite some time afterwards. They're handy because the tape is endless, and the third track is used for cue marks that tell the player when it has gotten back to the beginning, making it handy for commercials and sound effects. Other tones can be used to trigger the next cart player in line.

350 Shaky Louie  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:43:40pm

re: #347 stevieray
You're welcome. But as you've probably noticed by now, I was wrong about where the story first came from.
Ah, well, just another chapter from the story of _my_ life!
:-)

351 Shaky Louie  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:46:54pm

Must sleep now. I have a 'J.O.B.' that I must attend early.
Good Night all !

352 Charles  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:47:13pm

re: #328 Cognito

re: #272 Shaky Louie

This just in on local CBS station...
The US Navy has discovered a building with an "unusual"
shape. More on this story after tonights episode of Survivour.
.
Now, let's see...where did I hear that two days ago!?
MSM-- scooped again by LGF!
This is sorta what I'm talking about... CBS didn't pull that story from LGF. And LGF didn't "scoop" the mainstream media. That was an Associated Press story.

LGF didn't scoop the mainstream media on that story because I never posted it.

353 Highrise  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:52:30pm

re: #341 Cognito

You have serious nerve to keep posting here as a troll/moby when you yourself actually said this.


Prepare to allow that quote BY YOURSELF to haunt you as long as your account is active.

354 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:55:45pm

re: #353 Highrise

re: #341 Cognito

You have serious nerve to keep posting here as a troll/moby when you yourself actually said this.


Prepare to allow that quote BY YOURSELF to haunt you as long as your account is active.

I agree with that. Much of the time when I play devil's advocate here because it's a more efficient way to learn.

Is that not the Trolls' mantra?

355 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:58:06pm

re: #352 Charles

re: #328 Cognito

re: #272 Shaky Louie
This just in on local CBS station...
The US Navy has discovered a building with an "unusual"
shape. More on this story after tonights episode of Survivour.
.
Now, let's see...where did I hear that two days ago!?
MSM-- scooped again by LGF!
This is sorta what I'm talking about... CBS didn't pull that story from LGF. And LGF didn't "scoop" the mainstream media. That was an Associated Press story.
LGF didn't scoop the mainstream media on that story because I never posted it.

Right, a reader did, which I almost pointed out, but reconsidered.

I'm sure you know that even if you had posted it, you wouldn't have 'scooped' the mainstream media -- right?

356 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:58:41pm

re: #353 Highrise

re: #341 Cognito

You have serious nerve to keep posting here as a troll/moby when you yourself actually said this.


Prepare to allow that quote BY YOURSELF to haunt you as long as your account is active.

ok

357 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 9:59:41pm

re: #355 Cognito

I'm sure you know that even if you had posted it, you wouldn't have 'scooped' the mainstream media -- right?

That sounded more like a jab than I intended.

358 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:03:10pm

Ok the cog-bashing is over. Someone always gets hurt when we f around.

359 RememberSekhmet?  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:03:16pm

For all that it sucks when Charles and LGF don't get the credit due them, it does mean that LGF plays a major role in getting the news out about things much of the MSM would like to see buried. LGF says it, then Rush, Savage, et al say it, then Fox News says it loud and long, and the rest of the media can't ignore it anymore.

This is so important in such times as these, when those who dominate mainstream media would like nothing more than to keep their monopoly over the news, and let the historians find out about the fast ones the media tries to pull only after such stunts have achieved their purpose. Charles holds them accountable and does not let lies of commission or omission pass.

This JW Dundees Honey Brown Lager is for you!

360 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:04:16pm

re: #357 Cognito

re: #355 Cognito


I'm sure you know that even if you had posted it, you wouldn't have 'scooped' the mainstream media -- right?

That sounded more like a jab than I intended.

Nice save.

361 Highrise  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:05:47pm

re: #358 kreigwagon


The person hurt, should be the one that comes here to start fights.

He needs to go. But I'll be satisfied in those that know what he says when he comes here and indeed wants to start fights for his purpose ONLY.

Prick.

362 blackpajamas  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:06:01pm

re: #10 Charles

re: #9 WhiteRasta

You mean they cover stories they pick up here, at Lizard Headquarters?

Almost every day.

Bring El-Rushbo and Hannity to me,

They will pay for this OUTRAGE!

363 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:08:28pm

re: #360 bikermailman

re: #357 Cognito

re: #355 Cognito

I'm sure you know that even if you had posted it, you wouldn't have 'scooped' the mainstream media -- right?

That sounded more like a jab than I intended.
Nice save.

Just meant it to be a clarification. It was a response to Charles's comment, "LGF didn't scoop the mainstream media on that story because I never posted it."

I was just making sure we're on the same page -- LGF didn't scoop anyone, obviously, because Charles never posted it; and further, you can't really 'scoop' the media by posting excerpts from the media.

I was trying to connect those two ideas, but on a second reading, there were too many words in the interim, and so my response lost its meaning.

364 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:08:55pm

re: #361 Highrise

re: #358 kreigwagon


The person hurt, should be the one that comes here to start fights.

He needs to go. But I'll be satisfied in those that know what he says when he comes here and indeed wants to start fights for his purpose ONLY.

Prick.

ok

365 Steffan  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:09:38pm

re: #89 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

My definition of stone fox gorgeous weather babe is Jillian Reynolds, at KTTV channel 11 in Los Angeles.

Ask Jillian

366 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:11:45pm

re: #361 Highrise

I agree with 110% Highrise but man it's a waste of time now. He's like Chen, he'll never grasp it even if we show him how to read the threads on a fastball. Some people are just "Stuck On Stupid"


Sometimes we forget the #1 Rule here at LGF:
Don't Feed The Trolls

367 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:15:49pm

re: #366 kreigwagon

re: #361 Highrise

I agree with 110% Highrise but man it's a waste of time now. He's like Chen, he'll never grasp it even if we show him how to read the threads on a fastball. Some people are just "Stuck On Stupid"


Sometimes we forget the #1 Rule here at LGF:
Don't Feed The Trolls

Kreig, I'm sorry you feel like swapping ideas with me is a waste of time. For what it's worth, Highrise apparently doesn't understand the post she so proudly links. I said, "when I play devil's advocate here, it's because it's a more efficient way to learn."

She translates that as "picking fights," as she put it. But when I play devil's advocate -- something people do all the time to test out ideas -- I'll say so. Something along the lines of "what do you guys think of this other aspect?" or just, "playing devil's advocate..."

In the meantime, I'm happy for Highrise to go on with the name-calling and so forth. Doesn't bother me.

368 bikermailman  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:17:47pm

re: #363 Cognito

re: #360 bikermailman


re: #357 Cognito
re: #355 Cognito

I'm sure you know that even if you had posted it, you wouldn't have 'scooped' the mainstream media -- right?

That sounded more like a jab than I intended.
Nice save.

Just meant it to be a clarification. It was a response to Charles's comment, "LGF didn't scoop the mainstream media on that story because I never posted it."

I was just making sure we're on the same page -- LGF didn't scoop anyone, obviously, because Charles never posted it; and further, you can't really 'scoop' the media by posting excerpts from the media.

I was trying to connect those two ideas, but on a second reading, there were too many words in the interim, and so my response lost its meaning.

The intrawebs thingy has a way of doing that. I think it's due to the loss of facial clues, voice tones, etc.

369 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:18:36pm

re: #368 bikermailman

:)

370 Highrise  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:20:54pm

re: #366 kreigwagon


I agree with the waste of time..you betcha.

Please bookmark that quote though by cognito that he purposefully comes here to start trouble so he can learn more. Were we here to benefit him? /scratches head

That way when he does his circular reasoning bs...you can post it...and hopefully more and more people will see him for who he is.

I've had people outright tell me to respect him for his opposition point of view...which believe me, I'm all for..but when someone is this disingenous about his intent here, no thanks. Complete waste of time.

I laughed my ASS off of course. Then I presented this quote to them..and they said to me...wow, guess I can say no more. Every time he acts like this, he loses support.

371 Highrise  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:22:19pm

re: #367 Cognito

This isn't about namecalling,

You came here saying you come here to play devil's advocate to learn more. Which means you purposefully are trying to start trouble so you can exapand your mind..yeah right.

Nice try...don't try to change your mission here.

372 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:22:30pm

re: #370 Highrise

Of course I come here to learn. Otherwise, why bother?

I had assumed you had the same intention.

373 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:25:03pm

re: #371 Highrise

You came here saying you come here to play devil's advocate to learn more. Which means you purposefully are trying to start trouble so you can exapand your mind.

I'm sorry you don't understand the statement.

I'll spare you any further exposure to my thoughts and questions: Please feel free to ignore them from here on out.

374 Highrise  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:25:35pm

re: #372 Cognito


I don't purposefully play devil's advocate to learn. I speak from my values system, ethics system, and heart.

Then I'm not like you, that needs reassurance in my learning process from trying to be a devil's advocate to cause discontent. YOU seek this. I do not even though some may not agree with my take. YOU posted this...in black and white here on LGF.

You have something missing in that process to post such a post that you did.

375 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:25:37pm

re: #372 Cognito

Of course I come here to learn.

Interesting, considering you hold your teachers in contempt. Also interesting considering you've stated you come here to play devil's advocate.

376 Highrise  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:26:26pm

re: #373 Cognito

Of course you want me to ignore them...cause you want to forget you posted this.

377 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:26:27pm

re: #373 Cognito


More condescension? Why do you come here if you think you're so much better than the rest of us?

378 leepro  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:26:46pm

First time I heard anyone give credit to Charles was with the "fauxtography" thing. It was Rush Limbaugh. Then, when Fox picked it up, they (amazingly!) gave him credit, too.

So sad that was so long ago, and probably the only time that's ever happened.

Charles, you do an absolutely fantastic job keeping us so well informed. I am in total awe at your commitment, your stamina and diligence. And all that on top of your "real" job! You are so greatly appreciated by all of us here, you must know how much we look to you for truth and exposure of what's really going on out there. If I didn't live so very far from you (Germantown, TN, just outside Memphis), I would make it a goal in my life to meet you, shake your hand and thank you face to face.

You said that if you ever did receive payment of any kind you would share it with us. None of us, I daresay, would even think of accepting that! As others have said, it is you who does all the work; you who does all the digging; you who have so brilliantly designed this terrific web site; etc., etc., etc. We are the mere recipients of your talents and dedication, your meticulous and tireless doggedness. It is because of you that we are so much more aware of everything that's going on in the world than we would otherwise be!

I'm still curious (asked awhile back): How many Lizards are there? We already know you probably get hundreds more readers and thousands more comments than any other blog on the planet! Tell us, pleeeze!

379 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:27:42pm

re: #375 Sharmuta

re: #372 Cognito

Of course I come here to learn.
Interesting, considering you hold your teachers in contempt. Also interesting considering you've stated you come here to play devil's advocate.

Did I?

Or did I say, "When I play devil's advocate here, it's because it's a more efficient way to learn."

I trust you guys aren't so intellectually and emotionally delicate that someone 'playing devil's advocate' will leave you smarting.

380 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:29:56pm

re: #374 Highrise

I don't purposefully play devil's advocate to learn. I speak from my values system, ethics system, and heart.

So do I, Highrise. That's why I think maybe you're a little unclear what "devil's advocate" means -- I'm not out to embarrass you or hurt your feelings, but that's the only conclusion I can draw from your argument.

"Playing devil's advocate" doesn't mean "picking fights" or "being disingenuous" or any of that. It's just a way of bouncing ideas around.

381 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:29:58pm

re: #367 Cognito

Cog you come off as a troll sorry but that's how you are perceived. As for myself, I always make it a point to listen different points of view. Yes there is value in that process and it is a learning process. I listen to talk radio when I am out and about. I switch back and forth between Conservative shows to "Progressive" shows. My conclusion is that for the most part it is the same message: The___ (insert your choice of either Right wing wackos or Left wing wackos) are ruining this country. I love the fact that we have two sides of the aisle in congress. I love the fact that there is grid-locked legislation. God help this nation if the politicians ever figure out a way to always agree, we would be legislated to death. I don't know what side your on most of the time. For all I know you could as bad as Gordon or maybe not. I really don't care if you are a lib. Just state your case and back it up. I love to play bash the troll as the next guy but Shit, I am tired and don't feel like playing the Game now.

382 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:30:17pm

re: #379 Cognito

emotionally delicate

Go [deleted] yourself- that is so grossly offensive and misogynic. You are a pig to use that as an argument. God forbid you have daughters.

383 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:31:40pm

re: #381 kreigwagon

No game here. No patience for it.

And for what it's worth, I'm conservative. (A quick perusal of the poltical debate threads would show as much.)

384 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:33:02pm

re: #382 Sharmuta

re: #379 Cognito

emotionally delicate
Go [deleted] yourself- that is so grossly offensive and misogynic. You are a pig to use that as an argument. God forbid you have daughters.

Sharmuta, I'm not the one who's getting wound up, here. I'm not the one using such emotional language.

Again: If I upset you, feel free to ignore me.

385 Highrise  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:33:06pm

re: #380 Cognito


You are an idiot.

If you think that clears up anything, you are dumber than you sound. Don't you dare talk down to me like I don't know what devil's advocate means.

You are a liar and people can read for themselves what your intent is to do here even if you wish to redefine the dictionary.

386 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:34:33pm

re: #384 Cognito

Misogynists love it when they are ignored so that they can continue with their misogyny.

387 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:35:36pm

re: #385 Highrise

I have to hand it to you Highrise, you always stand your ground. ;)

388 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:35:51pm

re: #385 Highrise

re: #380 Cognito


You are an idiot.

If you think that clears up anything, you are dumber than you sound. Don't you dare talk down to me like I don't know what devil's advocate means.

You are a liar and people can read for themselves what your intent is to do here even if you wish to redefine the dictionary.

Highrise, it's bad form to call someone an idiot in your first sentence, call him "dumber than you sound" in your second sentence, and then in your third say "don't you dare talk down to me."

I wouldn't speak to you the way you've spoken to me. I'd ask you to refrain as well.

Further, I'd ask that we just move along to another thread. I'm pretty sure no one finds this interesting.

389 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:39:52pm

re: #388 Cognito

I wouldn't speak to you the way you've spoken to me. I'd ask you to refrain as well.

Further, I'd ask that we just move along to another thread. I'm pretty sure no one finds this interesting.

Your are beginning to sound like this guy Cog

390 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:40:32pm
I wouldn't speak to you the way you've spoken to me. I'd ask you to refrain as well.

I trust you guys aren't so intellectually and emotionally delicate that someone 'playing devil's advocate' will leave you smarting.

To any actual Lizards- Sharmuta reports- you decide.

391 Highrise  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:42:04pm

re: #388 Cognito

It's even WORSE form to come here and admit you want to troll and start shit in order to learn more.

My calling you an idiot completely PALES in comparison.

I will stick around and remind people of your *money quote* here. We won't forget, you posted too much about your intent.

392 Highrise  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:42:33pm

re: #387 kreigwagon


haha think it has to do with having being raised by a Marine father?

/snicker

393 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:44:41pm

re: #392 Highrise

re: #387 kreigwagon


haha think it has to do with having being raised by a Marine father?

/snicker

Like father like Daughter/Son... especially a Marine :)

394 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:49:03pm

re: #391 Highrise

re: #388 Cognito

It's even WORSE form to come here and admit you want to troll and start shit in order to learn more.

My calling you an idiot completely PALES in comparison.

I will stick around and remind people of your *money quote* here. We won't forget, you posted too much about your intent.

By all means, Highrise, you post to your heart's content. I trust that people will understand that

1) I actually said, "When I play devil's advocate here, it's because it's a more efficient way to learn."

2) "Playing devil's advocate" is a very traditional way of swapping ideas, and has nothing to do with a "want to troll and start shit in order to learn more."

3) "Want to troll and start shit in order to learn more" -- again, "to learn more" -- is, on its face, absurd.

So again, please post away. I'll see you on some other thread.

-C

395 latitude51  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:52:15pm
396 leepro  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:53:23pm

Can we please get back to praising/supporting Charles?

RE-POST:
re: #378 leepro

First time I heard anyone give credit to Charles was with the "fauxtography" thing. It was Rush Limbaugh. Then, when Fox picked it up, they (amazingly!) gave him credit, too.

So sad that was so long ago, and probably the only time that's ever happened.

Charles, you do an absolutely fantastic job keeping us so well informed. I am in total awe at your commitment, your stamina and diligence. And all that on top of your "real" job! You are so greatly appreciated by all of us here, you must know how much we look to you for truth and exposure of what's really going on out there. If I didn't live so very far from you (Germantown, TN, just outside Memphis), I would make it a goal in my life to meet you, shake your hand and thank you face to face.

You said that if you ever did receive payment of any kind you would share it with us. None of us, I daresay, would even think of accepting that! As others have said, it is you who does all the work; you who does all the digging; you who have so brilliantly designed this terrific web site; etc., etc., etc. We are the mere recipients of your talents and dedication, your meticulous and tireless doggedness. It is because of you that we are so much more aware of everything that's going on in the world than we would otherwise be!

I'm still curious (asked awhile back): How many Lizards are there? We already know you probably get hundreds more readers and thousands more comments than any other blog on the planet! Tell us, pleeeze!

397 Highrise  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:56:19pm

re: #394 Cognito

No, people who are not disingenuous, start out saying...hey to play devil's advocate..what if I say this...and let's debate that...

You on the other hand...start out with contrarian ideas and are not upfront when you wish to play games. You just overplayed your hand in that quote.

It's really that simple.

If you were up front with trying to play different opposing ideas off of each other? I honestly think people here would oblige. But I just know, the people who told me to GIVE YOU A CHANCE, now after seeing that quote, are shaking their heads and going ooohhh..sorry, let the guy fry.

What type of oil is your preference? If not, I'll pick coconut oil, probably more healthy.

398 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:56:23pm

re: #396 leepro

This thread turned into a Cog-bashing party lee. We all support Charles and I am sure he knows this fact. Cog invited the bashing, so this thread is dead.

399 Highrise  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:56:59pm

re: #396 leepro


I could NOT agree more.

Dinged you up there hun.

400 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 10:59:02pm

re: #397 Highrise

Extra Virgin Olive oil is best and it goes with a good wine as well.

/toss him in salad with all of the other Greens

401 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 11:00:38pm

re: #397 Highrise

But I just know, the people who told me to GIVE YOU A CHANCE, now after seeing that quote, are shaking their heads and going ooohhh..sorry, let the guy fry.

Among all the many, many people I speak with about you, again and again, there's a concensus that you're a great gal.

See you later.

402 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 11:05:33pm

re: #396 leepro

Charles is my hero, and everyday he's making a difference. That fox comes here is such a testament to his influence- we should all be proud of our Fearless Leader!

403 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 11:06:20pm

re: #401 Cognito

Among all the many, many people I speak with about you, again and again, there's a ***concensus*** (sic) that you're a great gal.


Now you sound like this guy

404 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 11:08:39pm

re: #403 kreigwagon

re: #401 Cognito

Among all the many, many people I speak with about you, again and again, there's a ***concensus*** (sic) that you're a great gal.

Now you sound like this guy

Yeah, I noticed that after I posted it. I figured that no one would find it worth noting.

Apologies.

405 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 11:14:13pm
406 zombie  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 11:14:33pm

re: #50 Charles

The difference is that Fox is making millions of dollars by reading LGF.

While that is true, it brings up philosophical questions. What is the main reason why you are doing all that you do? I propose it's the same reason why I do what I do: to make a difference. To do our part to save the world. I wager that many bloggers would say the same, though of course their impact is 1/10,000th of what LGF's is.

Further down the list of motivations is to make money. And in case of a full-time project like LGF, one needs to make a living at it.

Further down still, for some people (not me and probably not you either) is personal fame and glory.

Well, two out of three ain't bad! LGF makes a HUGE difference, setting the news agenda for the nation. And you have earned a huge amount of respect for it, deservedly so.

The money? Well, if all we cared about was money, would we be blogging? No. You'd be a cutting-edge software engineer pulling in a juicy paycheck every month. And I'd be a ___.

I resigned myself to being an unpaid "content provider" who got ripped off by the Big Boys on that day in 2004 when Bill O'Reilly discovered my video of Hatem Bazian calling for an intifada in America, through a link on LGF. O'Reilly made a big stink about it, even had Bazian on his show, almost got him fired, raised a ruckus about jihadi professors in our universities, and played my video repeatedly -- all the while never once acknoweldging LGF as the place he discovered it, and never once mentioning me as the ultimate source, the reporter, the videographer, etc.

I made a decision on that day: better to "make a difference" in this world than to seek acknowledgement. It was a tough decision, but in reality we have to live with the injustice whether we like it or not.

407 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 11:16:02pm
When I play devil's advocate here, it's because it's a more efficient way to learn.

Not even Chen's logic is this twisted.

408 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 11:18:32pm

re: #406 zombie

I made a decision on that day: better to "make a difference" in this world than to seek acknowledgement. It was a tough decision, but in reality we have to live with the injustice whether we like it or not.

That's ok zombie, the lizards appreciate all of your hard work.

409 Cognito  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 11:22:53pm

re: #407 Sharmuta

When I play devil's advocate here, it's because it's a more efficient way to learn.
Not even Chen's logic is this twisted.

No offense, but that's what I mean when I question whether you know what 'devil's advocate' means. Because I've used it in its exact meaning -- any other way would be 'twisted.'

It's called 'devil's advocate' because it started as a position in the Catholic Church long ago, wherein a member of the church played the role of questioning the authorities' decisions, to explore ideas and learn about new facets of the faith.

So I used the term correctly. I don't "play devil's advocate" all the time, and when I do, I'll say so -- just because I disagree on some point or other doesn't mean I've got some grand scheme to undermine LGF.

So please. Just let it go, Sharmuta. And I'll see you, as well, on another thread.

-C

410 Sharmuta  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 11:25:06pm

re: #409 Cognito

I question if you know the meaning of the words "disingenuous", "condescending" and "misogynist".

411 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 11:25:25pm
412 kreigwagon  Thu, Sep 27, 2007 11:54:45pm

I dedicate this to the dead thread.

LEONARD COHEN - Closing Time

413 kreigwagon  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 12:08:37am

Thank you service members for keeping This Alive!
Good night dead thread.

414 uptight  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 3:32:42am

re: #138 Charles

re: #134 uptight

(cough)KARMA(cough)

And this means...?

It means that I can be as bitter and twisted about hat-tips as you...

...but, at the end of the day, I still you love you (and Fox, for that matter).

ps.

New tip in your mailbox

415 Powderfinger  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 5:14:07am

re: #10 Charles

re: #9 WhiteRasta

You mean they cover stories they pick up here, at Lizard Headquarters?

Almost every day.

And it has been that way for years. Lack of recognition/renumeration aside, you are a one man paradigm shift, Charles. You're a new Centurion, watching the gates of Western Civilization and doing invaluable reconnaissance.

'Course, some love in the form of dead presidents and/or traffic would be nice, wouldn't it?

416 southernborn  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 5:42:15am

re: #374 Highrise

Im sooo confused with this war here. Attorneys play devil's advocate with their clients all the time. Strategists play devils advocate all the time it helps to flush out all flaws and weak points. so what the heck is going on with this devil's advocate thing. It is not a harmful thing it is a helpful thing if it is done by friend and not foe..

417 southernborn  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 5:51:18am

re: #182 ratherdashing

Thank you for that link first time I have seen it. Just fantastic. Charles surely does not get the credit he deserves. Maybe that will change. And I am so proud to be a part of this lizard army though be it in my small way.

418 alteredbeat  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 6:26:32am

Most of the stories posted here are from news agencies and other blogs. Just be glad that Fox is taking the truth to a more mainstream audienence. That being said, I appreciate greatly the work Charles does here. It's the best blog on the net.

419 Geepers  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 6:36:27am

southernborn (#416),

Cognito isn't trying to "learn" anything as he claims. He's a contrarian who hides behind playing devil's advocate as a way of advancing his argument.

It's why people call him disingenuous.

I'd have a lot more respect for him if he would just state his opinions and stand behind them rather than attempting to play simplistic rhetorical games in some sort of confused attempt to sway his position.

420 Victoria (VA girl)  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 7:18:42am

Could Highrise & Sharmuta be anymore self-frickin-righteous? I can't even find the words. This is ridiculous!

What the heck has happened to LGF? Sure isn't the blog I started reading years ago.

421 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 7:50:44am

re: #420 Victoria (VA girl)

Maybe if you had made more than 4 posts in the last year, this all could have been avoided.

Please- let me know when LGF no longer calls trolls on their BS, I'll gladly go.

422 Roger  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 7:51:40am

I disagree completely with this post, Charles. You gotta make business deals if you want to make money and be paid. Business is business. Contracts are contracts. Anything less is just pipe dreaming and has no point.

423 Roger  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 7:58:11am

Oh I just saw Charles has 65 pluses for this thread. With #422 I should at least get 65 dings! lol!

424 Pickle  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 8:01:23am

Look. Some of you must not watch FNC, or just don't get the point. When most blogs report on a story that FNC picks up, they get credited. Hume credits them, Gibson credits them, Hannity credits them. EXCEPT when the blog in question is LGF.

They don't have the balls to risk being seen plugging this blog. Cowards.

425 Highrise  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 8:20:50am

re: #420 Victoria (VA girl)

Could Highrise & Sharmuta be anymore self-frickin-righteous? I can't even find the words. This is ridiculous!

What the heck has happened to LGF? Sure isn't the blog I started reading years ago.

Interesting, same stuff they are saying on stalker blog 2 :P . Are you perhaps smiling for their candid camera?

426 incanus  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 8:33:23am

re: #256 Noam Sayin'

You all oughta know by now that now matter how well you pin Cognito down, he'll never admit that he's wrong.

I think there's a word for that...

"Douchebag" comes to mind.

427 Charles  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 8:36:15am

re: #406 zombie

re: #50 Charles

The difference is that Fox is making millions of dollars by reading LGF.
While that is true, it brings up philosophical questions. What is the main reason why you are doing all that you do? I propose it's the same reason why I do what I do: to make a difference. To do our part to save the world. I wager that many bloggers would say the same, though of course their impact is 1/10,000th of what LGF's is.

Further down the list of motivations is to make money. And in case of a full-time project like LGF, one needs to make a living at it.

Further down still, for some people (not me and probably not you either) is personal fame and glory.

Well, two out of three ain't bad! LGF makes a HUGE difference, setting the news agenda for the nation. And you have earned a huge amount of respect for it, deservedly so.

The money? Well, if all we cared about was money, would we be blogging? No. You'd be a cutting-edge software engineer pulling in a juicy paycheck every month. And I'd be a ___.

I resigned myself to being an unpaid "content provider" who got ripped off by the Big Boys on that day in 2004 when Bill O'Reilly discovered my video of Hatem Bazian calling for an intifada in America, through a link on LGF. O'Reilly made a big stink about it, even had Bazian on his show, almost got him fired, raised a ruckus about jihadi professors in our universities, and played my video repeatedly -- all the while never once acknoweldging LGF as the place he discovered it, and never once mentioning me as the ultimate source, the reporter, the videographer, etc.

I made a decision on that day: better to "make a difference" in this world than to seek acknowledgement. It was a tough decision, but in reality we have to live with the injustice whether we like it or not.

You're right -- and the point of my post was not to get Fox News to give me some money. (Or to sound like a Spnal Tap song.)

But since they definitely do take stuff from LGF constantly, maybe whoever they've assigned to watch LGF will read my post and start being a little more upfront it. And maybe not.

At least they know that I see what they're doing now.

428 Charles  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 8:37:07am

Upfront "about" it.

429 Ma Sands  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 8:39:26am

re: #424 Pickle

Look. Some of you must not watch FNC, or just don't get the point. When most blogs report on a story that FNC picks up, they get credited. Hume credits them, Gibson credits them, Hannity credits them. EXCEPT when the blog in question is LGF.

They don't have the balls to risk being seen plugging this blog. Cowards.


Well, I guess us Lizard forces of well over 20,000 just have to do double duty then... :) ...the best armies can take on a one-to-ten ratio --ever hear of such an army not being heard loud and clear? :) And, don't forget the Gates of Fire! --that 100-to-1,000,000 ratio is still reverberating to this day! In fact, it is what those Greek Spartans fought for that hangs in the balance in the war Charles is engaged in now...

430 Victoria (VA girl)  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 8:39:47am

re: #421 Sharmuta

You're right, I don't post much. Never have. Come here to learn. It just seems as if you and Highrise have appointed yourself as the LGF police...which I don't think this blog needs. Absolutely, trolls should be called out on their crap. But not everyone that disagrees or offers a differing opinion are trolls.

431 Victoria (VA girl)  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 8:40:55am

re: #425 Highrise

I have no idea what you're talking about?

432 Highrise  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 8:43:34am

re: #431 Victoria (VA girl)

re: #425 Highrise

I have no idea what you're talking about?

uhuh.

433 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 8:46:41am

re: #430 Victoria (VA girl)

Maybe you should read up on cognito before you accuse me of unbecoming behavior. And it smacks of hypocrisy to call me a thread cop while you're thread copping me, so I ask:

Could someone please point me in the direction of the Department of Troll and Moby Affairs? I'd like to get an official Troll and Moby Hunting License to show for the next time I'm pulled over.

434 Charles  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 8:48:21am

Can we please stop the infighting in this thread?

And Victoria (VA girl): if it's so awful to read LGF, no one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you.

435 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 8:52:19am

re: #434 Charles

Yes.

/Sorry.

436 Victoria (VA girl)  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 9:05:45am

re: #434 Charles

Can we please stop the infighting in this thread?

And Victoria (VA girl): if it's so awful to read LGF, no one is holding a gun to your head and forcing you.

Where did I say LGF is "so awful to read"? All I said was "What the heck has happened to LGF? Sure isn't the blog I started reading years ago."

Wow...didn't mean to offend you, Charles. Truly, I didn't. There is no need to exaggerate, as there was no harm/insult/disrespect intended.

437 Roger  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 9:11:48am

re: #427 Charles

Charles, the other year I didn't bother with a contract and lost 10's of thousands of dollars for not doing it. My fault.

Not that you're looking for direct monetary invoices but the next time you get invited to Fox News maybe a little schmoozing with the right people wouldn't hurt, buy 'em some drinks and warm them up to mentioning lgf. I don't think mentioning it here will do any good. They[whoever is researching for fox] need to see you in person and realize they would like you. A lot of business is done outside the office.

438 the jinxmedic  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 9:33:21am

I don't know if anyone (Charles) is going to read this far down the comments, but I know for a fact that Fox does not pay most of their independent news stringers. These folks tend to be freelance researchers working on other projects, and will feed breaking news or interesting human-interest stories to a network "on the side" as they come up in other searches. This is fairly consistant among the other leading news agencies, as well.

It's a largely volunteer effort by a small corps of dedicated individuals who receive occassional reciprocation in the form of discounts on branded merchandise, but that won't pay the heating bill, if ytou know what I mean...

439 J.S.  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 9:47:02am

re: #422 Roger

...You gotta make business deals if you want to make money and be paid. Business is business. Contracts are contracts. Anything less is just pipe dreaming and has no point.

I just saw a feature on CNN -- a teenager is a millionaire -- due to the traffic she draws from having made a website which caters to teenage girls. How the teenager makes the money (she designs webpages, but gives them (webpage designs) away for free -- but her website generates a gazillion hits a day) is through advertisements on the home page. So, it's getting advertisers...that's another potential money-maker...(put in spots for advertisers, and have a certain traffic-flow to your site --ie, be popular, and you could make a living...)

I do think LGF is one of the best web-blogs around...and Charles should be getting more recognition (the Rathergate affair, when mentioned on CNN -- if I recall correctly, CNN did credit LGF with breaking the story).

440 KayMichelle  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 10:17:46am

Charles,

Don't get too frustrated by it.

MSM, or "Dinosaur Media" is just that. Going the way of the dinosaur.
With our technological advances, you will soon find that all the advertisers will dump television and swamp to the internet.

It is interactive, for heaven's sake! We can make our opinion known!

It will be soon. We are fed up with the OJ stories, the sexual pervert stories, Paris Hilton and the rest. Our world is really falling apart all around us. We don't want to hear it, I haven't turned on my TV is months.

You'll get you due. Believe it!

441 J.S.  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 10:47:58am

re: #179 Cognito

What, cog, is the value of an editor? have you ever thought about that?

One of the under-rated values of this site is that of "Charles as editor." If you have a trillion items bombarding you, how do you sort through to find and focus on the relevant ones?

I think in the digital age this is becoming an even more profound problem. There's simply far too much "info" -- not enough analysis/assessment. It's in this latter capacity that this site excels. It winnows and extracts the relevant info...it winnows the wheat from the chaff (and in more ways than one)... heh?

442 uptight  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 10:54:54am

Charles, I've been posting here since 2003, and I don't remember you ever having a holiday. If anyone deserves money...

There no moral conflict, by the way. LGF is not some anti-capitalist blog and servers don't buy themselves.

Perhaps Fox could pay you for a dedicated wire service, enabling them to get the stories before they are posted.

443 Ma Sands  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 10:55:31am

re: #441 J.S.

Amen. :) Good, concise, succinct analysis.

(The way Charles does it, in fact, reminds me so much of my old Dad the newspaper publisher...I get homesick so often, reading Charles' comments --my Dad's been gone for nearly 17 years...he died in his boots...)

444 Crepuscular Prick  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 11:07:58am

re: #338 kreigwagon

I'm old enough to remember these:
History of the Wire Recorder
Most folks haven't even heard of a wire recorder... much less ever seen a steel wire recorder. Before the development of oxide based magnetic tape, "glorified" steel piano wire was the dominant media of choice.

The technology of magnetic recording dates back to 1878, when Oberlin Smith proposed the idea of recording telephone signals onto a length of steel piano wire. Over the next thirty years the technology evolved at a "snail's pace"; stalled by lack of adequate and cost effective electronic amplification. By 1930, advances in electronics allowed the first commercially successful wire recorders to be introduced as dictating machines and telephone recorders in Europe and North America. During WWII, the machines found their way into the BBC who employed banks of them for sending messages to the French underground. Meanwhile the US Army & Navy also employed them for similar purposes in their operations centers. Following the war from 1947 to 1952, wire recorders became popular in America and across Europe, and started showing up in many homes. The wire recorder was the very first reliable audio recorder to find it's way into the American home in significant numbers. In their "Hay-Day", wire recorders were quite the item !

445 J.S.  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 11:22:17am

re: #443 Ma Sands

thanks, ma sands...(sorry to hear of your dad's passing...) Sometimes (given our moonbat-ishness here in Canada) I think of LGF as the "voice in the wilderness..." or the only island of sanity...

446 Ma Sands  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 11:25:58am

re: #445 J.S.

Ah, J.S. --you know what you just did?! My Dad, as well as doing essentially the whole paper, me under him, had a daily column he would write, called...

Voice in the Wilderness...

447 J.S.  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 12:02:30pm

Oh my goodness, such coincidences! But it is true -- isn't it? As this site and all being "A Voice in the Wilderness!" (I'll look for your dad's editorials... in this day and age, I'm sure they'd be a pleasure to read).

448 Highrise  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 2:28:48pm

re: #434 Charles

Will do, Charles.


If I may, I would like to set the record straight to Victoria (VA girl) after viewing her past posts. Sorry if it will seem over the top.

---
436 Victoria (VA girl),

A few things of yours need correction and this is what makes LGF great, people can be corrected, fact checked..etc. This isn't called policing btw. I know exactly who I have mixed it up with on this blog and it's been with people who are known trolls or someone who has posted that they think lgf is a hate site. I don't even usually bite at trolls unless I see them saying and doing stuff where I feel lgf people need to realize what the person said before in their own words.

First if you are going to come down on a few of us for revealing a troll's intent here, you need to make sure your own backyard is especially clean. I don't appreciate the whole *I can do it but you can't* type of person.

Please refer to your own smackdown of past others you considered trolls:

* Canukistan smackdown by Victoria

* Victoria admits she can see that gordon the troll enjoys offending much like many of us can see that cognito enjoys playing devil's advocate to mix it up so he can learn

* Victoria tells gordon that she won't go into the reasons that he is wrong because he won't listen anyway

* Gordon smack down/namecall by Victoria

* Blackman revealed for being a flip flopper by Victoria from his past postings which is exactly what is done to cognito here

* Victoria tells Gordon that he not only sucks, but he really sucks

Geepers said it best (and I realize someone dinged him down..very interesting observation) in regards to cognito's intent here (and I merely posted what cognito said in a previous post on what he said his own intent was) and this was a very very dead thread when he got dinged down by one. Interesting.

449 Highrise  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 2:29:05pm

cont...to Victoria

Secondly,

Your posting history is mixed among some real hard bickering amongst posters...way worse than what is in this thread. This thread is TAME. You said nothing like this back then amongst the bickerers nor called them thread cops.

When one says something to this effect:

Could Highrise & Sharmuta be anymore self-frickin-righteous? I can't even find the words. This is ridiculous!

What the heck has happened to LGF? Sure isn't the blog I started reading years ago.

I have to ask, so were you self righteous in calling those people down I noted above? Or were you being a thread cop? Or were you just making lgf what it is, not letting bs pass through. I would hope it would have been the last one.

Your last two sentences..wow, just wow. With you witnessing and posting in threads much worse than this, what exactly has changed in LGF to make you question it now? It surely wouldn't be little ole me..I'm just a mere poster and have a number of good posts..I'm no worse at smacking troll people down than others are. You imply by your word choice that it's changed for the worse, hence you being told you don't have to read the blog. What do you come back with? Telling Charles that he is exaggerating your intent. Manipulative.

It's ok, I realize this is a featured thread at SB2 and expected it to be aimed at select few here. Hence the talking points noted.

450 Charles  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 3:59:53pm

re: #431 Victoria (VA girl)

This statement could not possibly be more dishonest.

451 Charles  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 4:04:55pm

To clarify: she not only knew exactly what she was being asked, she promptly went and posted my comment to her at GCP, prompting the usual round of moronic hatred.

452 Sharmuta  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 4:10:42pm

Thank you, Charles! You ROCK!

453 MikeO  Fri, Sep 28, 2007 8:33:12pm

That's right, Charles. I've been thinking the same yesterday. Keep up doing great job!


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