Amazing how the hypocrisy completely eludes them.

Pretty stupid thing to do, especially when the transcripts for the show are available. Rush is correct on this issue.

Impeach Reid.

Hypocrisy, they name is The New Republic.

I'd ask if she had any shame but, I've learned that that trait is absent from the Left.

Me? I'm thinking Titanic and frigid waters below...

Charles,

Bryan at Hot Air has a great take on this. They skewer the heck out of TNR, and if the media really did its job, they'd hammer TNR for this as well.

Eve Fairbanks crows about the great “karmic satisfaction” she gets

This is probably her idea of an orgasm.

re: #3 Perplexed

Rush wasn't just correct, but TNR and Media Matters purposefully lied about the situation, and completely ignored the fact that other media outlets reported the same exact thing Rush did two days prior.

I've had it with the Lefties!

They are the stupidest, most vicious, vitriolic, venomous morons on the face of the planet.

Hey Beevis...She said "Democrats swallowed"

Harry Reid went on the Senate floor to denounce him, which probably only makes Rush more popular with his listeners

I guarantee it did- that's the definition of a ringing endorsement for us.

And Harry Reid is just sickening. The guy is creepy.

No wonder why his approval rating is in the single digits.

Some press releases, a little play on CNN, and today Harry Reid went on the Senate floor to denounce him, which probably only makes Rush more popular with his listeners.

A little play? Some press releases?

The left has been on a six-day orgy based on a PR smear from Mrs. Clinton's hit machine.

I go to the contact button on The Plank at least once a week to ask how that investigation into the Scott Thomas Beauchamp debacle is going.

They never seem to answer!

Check out the hypocracy in their "mission statement" and drop them a line.

I'm sure they'd love to hear from anybody besides their remaining 16 subscribers.

re: #13 savage_nation

Indeed...Ron Paul!

re: #10 lawhawk

New slogan for the left:

Never let the facts get in the way of a good rant. Damn, this is tiring. All of this for political power. The politicos give prostitutes a bad reputation for selling themselves to the highest bidder. Suspect that more than one politician would sell their eternal soul to the devil just so they could remain in office.

Are you allowed to eat irony during your Ramadan fast? Because this irony is just so delicious!

So much for free speech. Maybe Rush can fight it, but how many others can afford too? The far left is telling the right to "shut up." Lawsuits, firings, and smear jobs are not something the average guy or gal can afford.

Transcripts ?

Proofs?

Facts?

The loony left firmly believes they are entitled to their own facts.

TNR: Never letting the facts get in the way of a good smear.

The majority of the coverage of this willfully distorts the story.

Fair and balanced press, my ass.

Still, these clowns have been doing this to Rush for at least 15 years, and they never get him. They're like a more hapless Wile E. Coyote.

Nice to see most of the Democrats votes to condemn him while 23 of them voting against condemning MoveOn.

They're on record now at least.

re: #20 ubercheesehead

Are you allowed to eat irony during your Ramadan fast? Because this irony is just so delicious!

Only after sundown. The irony must also be well washed since much irony also involves a foot being deeply placed in one's own mouth.

Listening to Mark Levin rewind from last night.

He said he is going to Nevada to campaign against Harry the commie when he runs for re-election.
Goodbye Harry.
Your toast.

/ps.
He said he wants the Senate dems to denounce him.
He wants to frame it and pass it down from generation to generation to show he was attacked by the 5th column in this country and he fought against them.

re: #11 DesertSage

I've had it with the Lefties!

They are the stupidest, most vicious, vitriolic, venomous morons on the face of the planet.

There, there, there. /pats DS on shoulder.

re: #17 reelcobra

They are out with OJ on the golf courses.
Looking for the real killers.

They're back from their Scott Beauchamp inspired vacations already? I hadn't noticed...

Speaking of which. If anybody is actually subscribed over there, would you be so kind as to leave that Scott Beauchamp maggots name in a two word response to that excuse of a column?

===

Lastly...

What did Cognito know about Blackwater being the back-up anti-right pro-terrorist story of the week, if and when the Rush story folded up like the cheap suit it was?

And they knew both stories were cheap fakes, before they ever became public...

ENOUGH,
R

re: #21 yah

So much for free speech. Maybe Rush can fight it, but how many others can afford too? The far left is telling the right to "shut up." Lawsuits, firings, and smear jobs are not something the average guy or gal can afford.

I will help fight the Lefty lies and I will never quit! I will fight against the Lefties as hard as I will fight against the terrorists.

I will NEVER let a Lefty lie go unchallenged! That's what they're counting on, going unchallenged...it isn't going to happen on my watch!
I pledge to ALWAYS expose Lefty hypocrisy and lies! ALWAYS!

Lately I've been studying and thinking about the strange way that habitual liars think. What intrigues me is the way they don't sense a need for quality in their deception. Rather, Hajj, Beauchamp and so many more are famous, not for their lies, but for the stupidity of their lies. How could they not have any sense of the obvious?

It's like they're story tellers and they don't see any need for their fiction to be anything other than good fiction. Or something like that -- I don't understand it.

Anyway, this story is another one of those. Frank Martin has noted that this is one of those, "you don't start an argument with someone who buys ink by the barrel," things. How can anyone think they can misrepresent something Rush says and not expect Rush's rebuttal to be repeated for decades?

If Rush has a fault it's thinking that "it's all about him." Now something really is all about him and he couldn't be happier.

Did Harry Reid denounce Markos for "screw them?"

To have so many US Senators lie about what a private citizen said and then denounce him for it in a public way is kind of scary.

Rush did great today in attacking his attackers! His whole show was fabulous! Rush could start logging and reading more anti-troop remarks made by liberals. Dingy Harry could have a real witch hunt then, going after the real anti-troop kooks.

re: #27 hous bin pharteen

That would be a fine step forward for the nation, since Reid is the main guy standing in the way of preventing the nuclear power industry from finally having a secure facility to store nuclear waste at Yucca Mt.

And if that actually were to happen, then nuclear plants around the country could finally begin storing their waste in proper secure facilities and new plants could eventually come on line (after getting the necessary decades of permitting that the environuts and leftists have thwarted for years).

Rush has it exactly right on how to handle these things. He's been going on the offensive, and not letting up, except for the Justice Thomas interview. Great interview, btw, for those who missed it. This is what the President, and all the Republicans should have been doing for the last several years. The left throws these slimy things out there, and they are just ignored. Why? To stay above it all and not get into the mudpit? Maybe. The end result, however, has been that their lies become 'fact' that becomes part of history. Rush has handled it very well, coming out with facts, and thrown it back in their faces. Like Rush, hate him, or anywhere inbetween, this isn't just about him. This is, I think, their first major move on the chess board in shutting all of talk radio down.

If politics fails the L^3 then they may resort to physical attacks/assassination attempts.

re: #11 DesertSage

They are the stupidest, most vicious, vitriolic, venomous morons on the face of the planet.

They're jealous they're not The Bomb™, like you.

Rush brought it on himself with his poor choice of words. Anyone who attacks his enemies because of something they said should expect the same from his detractors. But using taxpayer money to admonish a member of the media is pure waste. Get a blog you dumbass Reid.

Does the fact that he didnt say it in the context they allege and it can easily be verified by downloading the entire show and listening to it penetrate this chicks feeble brain?

as long as the left has a rallying point for their diatribe that deflects their failed politics. taking on Rush only emboldens the leftist/liberal goon squad. no matter how many times you show them what they have said and did in the past doesn't mean diddley squat to them. yet, when a conservative type, or for that matter even someone who supports the military, then no matter what is said in any type of context it is strung out by the libtards as lies, deception, and blatant falsehoods. they play the blame game all to well and to hell with whom ever it hurts or destroys along the way, especially big, bad America.

re: #17 reelcobra

I go to the contact button on The Plank at least once a week to ask how that investigation into the Scott Thomas Beauchamp debacle is going.

They never seem to answer!

Check out the hypocracy in their "mission statement" and drop them a line.

I'm sure they'd love to hear from anybody besides their remaining 16 subscribers.

Niiice...

Karmic Satisfaction. 1. n. moonbat term for "shadenfreude"
2. n. a malevolent feeling similar to envy

...Rush Limbaugh is getting spoon-fed a little bit...

I think Rush puts a megafork in everything he eats.

Now, what Rush did was worse — he called the many Iraq war veterans who consult with antiwar Democrats “phony troops”

He did no such thing you left wing nitwit! It's the blind leading the blinder -- both will fall into a gigantic ditch by the time this is over.

Perception is reality. Facts don't determine the story. Same as it ever was.

#41 SecretInternetDoucheBag

"hey, Bevis...Secret said penetrate and chick in the same sentence. Heh a heh a heh a heh..."

re: #45 Cap'n DOC

And he ain't eatin' crow if you get my drift.

re: #6 MandyManners

Shame?

You are talking about people who run around naked with balls filled with water to make them the size of beach balls.

Shame? You are talking about people who dress up as furry animals to have sex.

Shame?
Ahh, fuck it.
I could go on for hours, buy we all get the point.

Lets give em a State!

re: #29 savage_nation

re: #26 Perplexed

re: #20 ubercheesehead

Are you allowed to eat irony during your Ramadan fast? Because this irony is just so delicious!

Only after sundown. The irony must also be well washed since much irony also involves a foot being deeply placed in one's own mouth.

...and behold the foot baths popping up everywhere...

Footbath?!? You mean that was a footbath? I thought it was a urinal with a chair for guys too tired to stand whilst they whittle! Wow, I'll have to be more careful where I take a leak next time!

re: #31 Render

They're back from their Scott Beauchamp inspired vacations already? I hadn't noticed...

Speaking of which. If anybody is actually subscribed over there, would you be so kind as to leave that Scott Beauchamp maggots name in a two word response to that excuse of a column?

===

Lastly...

What did Cognito know about Blackwater being the back-up anti-right pro-terrorist story of the week, if and when the Rush story folded up like the cheap suit it was?

And they knew both stories were cheap fakes, before they ever became public...

ENOUGH,
R

I would urge you to hesitate a little from backing up Blackwater. Those guys when I was there were known for being very light on the trigger since most of them were guarding high value targets and a seconds hesitation could cost them their lives. Notice you never see death tolls of those guys do you? I would wait till all the facts came in about the Blackwater incident to judge it.

re: #41 SecretInternetDoucheBag

Does the fact that he didnt say it in the context they allege and it can easily be verified by downloading the entire show and listening to it penetrate this chicks feeble brain?

Well, that sounds like either a clue x four or the nail studded clue club. Both are pretty effective except for the most clueless of the clueless (the sort of people who would deny that their parents engaged in intercourse when they were conceived).

Clear Channel CEO basically tells the 41 pinheads to sod off.

Just heard a clip on Hannity of some nitwit saying Rush was "on a rant" about phony soldiers, which clearly demonstrates he was not listening.

Almost didn't read this one. It is becoming increasingly obvious that there will be multiple, single source attacks from the Kos types and their parasites. A veritable avalanche. There is no way to keep up and effectively defend against them or win in the court of public opinion. And, as I mentioned on an earlier thread, the first liar wins. Conservatives are definitely on the defensive and that is never a good place to be. We need to rise to a higher level to see things in the larger context and take them on from there. Granted, there are a lot of dhim bulbs out there, but trying to deal with each issue, situation, lie or statement on its own is going to be a futile endeavor.

re: #32 DesertSage

Bless you for your courage and strength. You must understand they will stop at nothing to destroy you.

re: #56 JammieWearingFool

Clear Channel CEO basically tells the 41 pinheads to sod off.

Just heard a clip on Hannity of some nitwit saying Rush was "on a rant" about phony soldiers, which clearly demonstrates he was not listening.

That about sums the whole thing up. They didn't know what he said, based their view entirely on the Media Matters smear, and proceeded to use the full force and effect of the US Government to pressure a private citizen to shut up. And if that fails, to then force his employer to get him to shut up.

Can't Reid find something better to do with his talents, like become a pimp in his hometown (Searchlight, NV)? Seriously, this guy needs to go and live among the people he claims to represent.

Damn, I have friends who served and continue to serve in Iraq. They know the need for them to be there. Anyone else who says that we need to give up on Iraq is a phony, soldier or not.

Why is it that the ANTI-WAR / PRO-PEACE loony left is always at war with someone ?

Nevada voters - time to get rid of Reid.

A very thought provoking article on Physics Today, with some interesting
statistics about the (non)contribution of today's Islamic societies to the world of
science.
"Science and the Islamic world—The quest for rapprochement"
http://ptonline.aip.org/journals/doc/PHTOAD-ft/vol _60/iss_8/49_1.shtml

Is it possible to go below zero for the approval rate of congress?

"In these difficult days we find our scraps of pleasure where we can."

Did you ever stop to think that maybe the days are difficult because you are difficult?

re: #56 JammieWearingFool

...which clearly demonstrates he was not listening.

Of course he never heard it. He didn't need to hear it. Its not a debate, its more like a game of tetherball.

re: #64 sa trawler

Is it possible to go below zero for the approval rate of congress?

Certainly it's possible, they're already there for integrity.

Hey can I ask you guys a question? Why do media networks run these Rush clips out of context in order to make him look bad, but yet fail to actually show anti war protestors in all their glory holding up Che flags, communist propaganda, or burning American flags like they do every time they fuckin hold an anti war rally?

re: #57 peck

Almost didn't read this one. It is becoming increasingly obvious that there will be multiple, single source attacks from the Kos types and their parasites. A veritable avalanche. There is no way to keep up and effectively defend against them or win in the court of public opinion. And, as I mentioned on an earlier thread, the first liar wins. Conservatives are definitely on the defensive and that is never a good place to be. We need to rise to a higher level to see things in the larger context and take them on from there. Granted, there are a lot of dhim bulbs out there, but trying to deal with each issue, situation, lie or statement on its own is going to be a futile endeavor.

When conservatives go on the offense, use logic, reason, and facts the L^3 conveniently brush all of those things away as being irrelevant, inconsequential, and violating the 'rights' of a liberal to behave in any manner.

Time to bring out the big guns and to keep the libs on the defense. Keep hitting them with facts. Beat them down with facts. Bury them under a mountain of facts. Ask pointed questions. Know about a scandal a L^3 politician is involved in? Publicly ask them about it. Go on the offensive.

re: #62 FrogMarch

I'm sure he services his clients quite well...in the tradition of Harry Byrd and Ted Stevens. They all suck something or another.

re: #58 yah

re: #32 DesertSage

Bless you for your courage and strength. You must understand they will stop at nothing to destroy you.

Let them come after me. I don't care, I'm a big boy I can defend myself.

I refuse to let Leftist lies go unanswered.

These guys on the left are idiots. Everyone knows that Rush supports the troops greatly & had been conversing about "phony soldiers" (i.e. soldiers who claim to have been in Iraq witnessing atrocities when they were never there) for several days.

For democrats to suddenly act as if they care about the troops after calling them murderers, rapist, torturous rouges and worse is almost laughable...but it is too sad to laugh about.

I don't live in Nevada, but personally I would like to find out who Harry Reid's closest competitor for the Senate seat is and send his campaign the most money allowed by law.

See the update above: they apparently believe they have Rush on the run.

I'm astounded. Our congress and yes, little "c" has the time to debate and pass resolutions on a talk-show host? Aren't there more pressing matters? What's next, a resolution supporting the state's actions in the Brittany Spears custody case?

Where was this maelstrom when AchtungImonJihad came to town? Instead of a "Rush" to judgement, shouldn't these morons be attacking terrorists like AchtungImonJihad?

re: #72 DesertSage
You go, Sage. We're with ya.

#68 SecretInternetDoucheBag

I don't think they realize they're playing poker in a room full of mirrors.
The old/dead media would love to eliminate their competition and further their agenda.
They are desperate. It is beginning to show.
Everyone realizes what's going on.
The 5th column is walking into the light of day.

re: #63 attributor

That's an excellent article. Still reading...

re: #69 Perplexed

And the Repubs are waiting for what? The next big pay check from the likes of Abramof (sp?)?

This is awesome. A Perfect Storm of Manufactured Consent (Blackwater, Rush, Petraus). The irony is thick like a cloud of ganja at a 'peace rally.'

What can really be said about it?

It's a manufactured lie on the part of the left, a few words taken totally out of context being contrasted with a full page add... I think Rush should sue everyone involved to the hilt for slander and libel...

It's the most basic part of why the left is ideologically wrong-they must lie to get their way. The whole making a tempest out of a teapot like they are doing is political suicide... It's really a "sir have you no decency?" moment on display for the whole country to judge against the current Democrat leadership and left in general...

Hey check out Michelle Maulkins front page she has little John Lee Malvo writing Islamic material.

Beyonce's not gonna veil for Malaysia!

/ot driveby

Just a thought. Can Soros be charged with bribery? To me that's exactly what he is doing. I would love to see him and his band ( Hillary, Turban, Reid, Pelosi, Heinz-Kerry, ) and the rest of the puppet Democrats to be tried in court.

/I think we can question their patriotism now!

OT

Dogs drool - cats rule. The hound dog next door (nice dog, but still a dog) just had a fit (whuf! whuf!, etc.) over some little thing. My cats are sleeping in the corner, conserving their energy for dinner (chicken).

re: #74 Charles

See the update above: they apparently believe they have Rush on the run.

They're wrong Charles. I'm more angry at the lying Left then I ever have been.
I'm sure they have done nothing less then galvanize the Right.

OT: Canada faces terrorism threats

This morning, from a cave somewhere in Pakistan, Taliban Minister of Migration, Mohammed Omar, warned Canada that if military action against Afganistan continues, Taliban authorities will cut off Canada's supply of convenience store managers.

And if this action does not yield sufficient results, cab drivers will be next, followed by Dell customer service reps.

Canadians wait impatiently for PM Steven Harper's next move.

I've become convinced that these Dems, these Socialists, simply cannot tell a lie from the truth, they cannot discern between fact and fiction. I had a discussion one day with a friend about O.J. Simpson and I told my friend that there is only one way that Simpson could maintain his sanity at this point in time and that would be if he was convinced inside of himself that he did NOT do the killing. And with these Dems, I see the same thing. They have only one thing that is of any matter to them and that is total socialistic control over our Land. They simply do not view anything they do along the way as right , wrong or indifferent - it does not matter to them as long as they destroy and bring down the democratic Republic and install the Socialistic state. Not a single one of them sees anything they've done as wrong. They are all blinded by a spiritually and morally bankrupt ideology.

re: #31 Render

They're back from their Scott Beauchamp inspired vacations already? I hadn't noticed...

Speaking of which. If anybody is actually subscribed over there, would you be so kind as to leave that Scott Beauchamp maggots name in a two word response to that excuse of a column?

===

Lastly...

What did Cognito know about Blackwater being the back-up anti-right pro-terrorist story of the week, if and when the Rush story folded up like the cheap suit it was?

And they knew both stories were cheap fakes, before they ever became public...

ENOUGH,
R

I've only noted that Blackwater has some real issues these days in Iraq. And boy do they. As for whether they've been maligned, I'll wait with interest for the verdict -- or at least more facts -- to come down before I make up my mind.

Now, what Rush did was worse...

Ri-i-i-g-h-t!

Read "1984" again. Libs lie, and then accuse you of doing the lying.

re: #22 Friend of USA

Transcripts ?

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Limbaugh has vehemently denied a wholesale attack on antiwar servicemen and women. A literal reading of the Sept. 26 show in question shows that the controversial host did not in fact say that soldiers opposing the war are "phony," but his remarks have left confusion as to whom he is referring when he used the phrase.

The offense came up when a caller named Mike, who said he is currently serving in the Army, described his anger about talk of a pull-out from Iraq. Limbaugh readily agrees, according to the recorded exchange:

CALLER 2 (Mike): ...What's really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media.

LIMBAUGH: The phony soldiers.

CALLER 2: The phony soldiers. If you talk to a real soldier, they are proud to serve. They want to be over in Iraq. They understand their sacrifice, and they're willing to sacrifice for their country.

Limbaugh has since said on his show that he was referring only to one soldier: disgraced, convicted former Army soldier-turned-antiwar-activist Jesse Macbeth. Macbeth falsely claimed to have participated in war crimes in Iraq and received a Purple Heart, but in reality, he was discharged after only 44 days of service, never placing a foot in Iraq.

Macbeth was sentenced to five months in prison for fraudulently collecting more than $10,000 in benefits from the Department of Veterans Affairs.

The problem with the exchange, say critics, is that Limbaugh refers to multiple "soldiers." He gets to a conversation about Macbeth about two minutes after referring to "phony soldiers." In subsequent radio shows, Limbaugh attempted to clarify his position, but muddied the waters by editing out a portion of it, prompting outrage from the liberal media watchdog Media Matters, which has been driving this latest controversy.

re: #61 Friend of USA

Why is it that the ANTI-WAR / PRO-PEACE loony left is always at war with someone ?

Toilet-training issues.

I heard Rush's response to the VoteVet's ad on his show today. The first thing I thought was that it apparently never occurred to Rush that the guy can think for himself. So, I'd say, yea, Rush has dug a deeper hole for himself here.

I'm well aware that Blackwaters ROE are quite a bit different from that of the US military. In at least some cases, Blackwaters ROE is the same as that of the US Secret Services. Assume the worst, ask questions later.

I'm also aware that they take some of the most dangerous routes in the country, while guarding most of the highest value human and physical targets in the country.

As far as I know, Blackwater has yet to lose a principle, in spite of their own casualties.

How many times has the media or US politicians of both parties hired Blackwater to guard their own in Iraq?

How many of these incidents that Blackwater is being blamed for are actually the work of other lesser known private contractors, (like Zapata Engineering)?

Why is only Blackwater being targeted out of 100,000 to 180,000 private contractors currently in Iraq?

===

Enough, I'm going off to play Day of Defeat. Where the ROE is as simple as the color of the uniform and friendly fire is on.

VALHALLA!,
R

re: #84 savage_nation

I got your back, you know that...

I don't usually listen to Rush, I usually listen to Dennis Prager, who's on at the same time.

But I think this is something that Rush would say...Ditto!

re: #74 Charles

And they're the ones claiming we lack nuance.

re: #74 Charles

Wow. They keep going like this and they'll be in China by Xmas.

If no one could verify the context of Rush's statements, Rush might indeed be in hot water. But everyone can! They are playing cards with all the cards face up—and they have a losing hand.

As for the ad, I wonder if Rush could sue?

Wow, I'll have to be more careful where I take a leak next time!

Oh, really...no need for that.

Carry on.

And drink a lot of beer whilst you're at it, just to keep your kidneys all flushed out 'n stuff.

(I've heard this cool little cleaning tip: if you rub lard on the surface of your bathroom fixtures it's a lot easier to clean up.)

/

Communists, every last one of them.

Not so much I feel the need to defend Limbaugh, but these fuckers are the scum of the earth.

Choice, seperation of powers, constitutional rights, these bastards are taking a shit on the country in the same manner as that jerk off in Portland.

They are hypocrits.

I have to admit, there are times I wish it would just devolve in to fighting in the streets.

Sorry for the inflammatory post Charles, delete if you need to. I don't think I have ever held so much contempt for another group of people as I do this party anymore.

re: #94 ChenZhen

I heard Rush's response to the VoteVet's ad on his show today. The first thing I thought was that it apparently never occurred to Rush that the guy can think for himself. So, I'd say, yea, Rush has dug a deeper hole for himself here.

You keep thinking that Chen. If you think your buddies on the Left have won this battle by being lying sacks of sh*t, then you're way off base.

The Right is galvanized on this one, and we're angry as hell!

re: #79 peck

re: #69 Perplexed

And the Repubs are waiting for what? The next big pay check from the likes of Abramof (sp?)?

We were discussing the L^3, but am glad to talk about the spineless folks calling themselves republicans. They've forgotten who elected them to office in the first place and need reminding when they forget. We need more people in office who are Constitutionalists regardless of political party. We need people capable of undoing the damage done to our government by well meaning, meddling, fools.

re: #74 Charles

See the update above: they apparently believe they have Rush on the run.

It's funny because Rush never called that guy a phony soldier, he called him a hero who is being lied to. Me thinks the desperation on the left is becoming palpable. They are not getting the public outcry & support they had hoped for on this issue & now they are down a deep deep hole. They know they lied about Rush's comments & meaning, they got caught lying, and the whole event unfolds as John Murtha gets called into court, a freaking court of law, for falsely calling an Iraq combat veteran a murderer.

Top all of this with the fact that most of the democrat presidential candidates won't promise to pull out of Iraq if elected.

This is getting delicious, the people on the left don't know which way to turn. It is tough living a life of lies...the lies are catching up to MoveOn, Hillldabeast, Harry Reid, Murtha, and a bunch of others.

re: #94 ChenZhen

I heard Rush's response to the VoteVet's ad on his show today. The first thing I thought was that it apparently never occurred to Rush that the guy can think for himself. So, I'd say, yea, Rush has dug a deeper hole for himself here.

Chen,

By the end of next week, Rush's listener numbers will be up by 18% , Clear Communications will extends his contract by three more years, 32 more sponsors will add their names to the waiting list to advertise on his show, and Harry Reid and The Gang will be back to raising your taxes.

Some hole.

re: #94 ChenZhen

I heard Rush's response to the VoteVet's ad on his show today. The first thing I thought was that it apparently never occurred to Rush that the guy can think for himself. So, I'd say, yea, Rush has dug a deeper hole for himself here.

This guy NEVER thought for himself...

re: #74 Charles

See the update above: they apparently believe they have Rush on the run.

Kinda like Wile E. Coyote. The left has fallen off the cliff and doesn't realize it.

re: #94 ChenZhen

I heard Rush's response to the VoteVet's ad on his show today. The first thing I thought was that it apparently never occurred to Rush that the guy can think for himself. So, I'd say, yea, Rush has dug a deeper hole for himself here.

Well considering you did not like him anyway I am sure he will be most distressed.

re: #59 lawhawk

Have you seen this?

We're mentioned in there. Very amusing.

re: #74 Charles

See the update above: they apparently believe they have Rush on the run.

I read through all of that and if those alleged comments from Rush are for real, than he really is digging deeper. With a backhoe.

I've said for a long time here that in the coming years American politics will be dominated by veterans from this war, and I think thats a good thing for the Country as their perspective on war, good and bad, will be grounded by their own personal experience. And that applies to both parties, there are future Democrat and Republican candidates among the ranks of those who have fought and still are. I say each one of them deserves respect regardless of their politics.

re: #74 Charles

See the update above: they apparently believe they have Rush on the run.

To paraphrase the guy at the Exxon, "theese people are cwaaazy!"

re: #114 Mich-again

They're for real...I heard them live.

Rush has assured himself of an even larger audience. Brilliant!

re: #96 song_and_dance_man

re: #74 Charles

See the update above: they apparently believe they have Rush on the run.

The left see rope-a-dope and think they are close to a knock-out.

Just like they think they're thiiis close to their version of winning (what we would call losing, and running home with our tails tucked) in Iraq. All the while, the truth is that things seem to have taken a true turn over there. For the better. For the Iraqis, and for America. In both of these cases, the left is doing like a child (and one of my coworkers, no shiite, but that's another story) and sticking fingers in ears, and going 'lalalalalala...I can't hear you'

re: #104 DesertSage

I think we wasted our time, Sage. I mean- if he can't see the irony of this new republic post, he's not likely to ever get it.

re: #94 ChenZhen

I heard Rush's response to the VoteVet's ad on his show today. The first thing I thought was that it apparently never occurred to Rush that the guy can think for himself. So, I'd say, yea, Rush has dug a deeper hole for himself here.

I agree with ChenZhen.

Ha. Have those words ever been typed before?

This isn't going to end well for the Kossers or the Media Matters types who are pushing this nonsense.

The facts are against them, the law is against them, and the pounding on the table is nothing more than a bunch of petulant two year olds screaming and shouting that they aren't getting their way.

The next step of Wile E. Hillary's great plan is to re-activate the Fairness Doctrine.

Send in the clowns
don't worry they're here.

Genghis Chen, who cares what the foaming at the mouth liberals think of Rush. They don't support him. They don't like him. They want him gone. He knows that and stands on principals.

re: #92 Bobibutu

Media Matters is also making a big issue that Rush did not mention MacBeth until a whole two minutes after he made the "phoney soldiers" comment and then skipped the intervening two minutes in his transcript. This from the same group that left out all of Juan Williams' comments in the transcript when smearing O'Reilly.

Yes, 2 minutes apparently is well after the fact. Rush must have driven to his lawyers office for a consultation, visited his programming director, and exchanged e-mails with Karl Rove before deciding to cover himself with the MacBeth twist.

A whole two minutes. How could Rush think liberals are that stupid?

Sometimes I remind myself that the majority of people don't care either way.

re: #114 Mich-again

"I've said for a long time here that in the coming years American politics will be dominated by veterans from this war,"

If this is true then republicans have a super bright future because the military is overwhelmingly republican. Just another inconvenient fact for the left to swallow.

The Dems and lefties are going to find themselves irreversibly entangled in their own web of lies.

re: #124 Perplexed

tnr and kos and leftists attack Rush, Rush laughs all the way to the bank.

I can't be on LGF as much as possible anymore but is ChenZhen the new Nordrog?

re: #121 Mich-again

re: #94 ChenZhen

I heard Rush's response to the VoteVet's ad on his show today. The first thing I thought was that it apparently never occurred to Rush that the guy can think for himself. So, I'd say, yea, Rush has dug a deeper hole for himself here.

I agree with ChenZhen.

Ha. Have those words ever been typed before?

His reaction was based on a bogus story.

I doubt the VoteVets soldier heard the original remarks in their proper context.

re: #94 ChenZhen

Chen, I know you were curious about my statement that you are lacking honesty. This is a great example; You know that he was talking about Jesse Macbeth but you don't seem to care about the truth of the situation despite the facts. You're not being honest with yourself.
I think Rush stinks and I haven't really been following the controversy but he's right on this one .

re: #68 SecretInternetDoucheBag

Hey can I ask you guys a question? Why do media networks run these Rush clips out of context in order to make him look bad, but yet fail to actually show anti war protestors in all their glory holding up Che flags, communist propaganda, or burning American flags like they do every time they fuckin hold an anti war rally?

Real simple. They want to avoid giving the general populace the right idea about Rush and the Che-groupies.

re: #106 Perplexed

re: #79 peck

re: #69 Perplexed

And the Repubs are waiting for what? The next big pay check from the likes of Abramof (sp?)?

We were discussing the L^3, but am glad to talk about the spineless folks calling themselves republicans. They've forgotten who elected them to office in the first place and need reminding when they forget. We need more people in office who are Constitutionalists regardless of political party. We need people capable of undoing the damage done to our government by well meaning, meddling, fools.

I don't know if you listen to Glenn Beck, but he's been on this a lot lately. He spent a whole hour on this this morning, talking about both parties having bad movers in each of their houses. The anything goes, sell your soul to the devil businessmen in the Republican party, and the socialists in the Democrat party.

That is pretty hilarious Kos posting another out of context report of soldiers now being "lied" to to come on TV and denounce him. Funny he was refering to the lieing being done when people are telling them he called them phony soldiers and not MacBeth.

re: #89 ornery elephant

You might be on to something there. Libs like to "visualize world peace" and things like that as if they can make something true just by pretending that it already is. They stray a little too far into fantasy land.

This, of course, makes them fools.

I haven't seen much, if any, reference to the House resolution to honor Rush. Anybody got a progress report on that one?

re: #138 savage_nation

In a word. Yes.

re: #114 Mich-again

You know however, this has nothing to do with the veterans.

If that was the case, they would have come out against the move-on ad.

They would have had harsher condemnation for the Macbeths and Beachamps who stain the very military the so passionately claim to be looking out for.

You know damn well, while Kerry is busy ordering his Swiss cheese steak, Hillary is taking eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars in campaign donations, Murtha is getting million dollar earmarks for stuff not on the books,

This has so little to do with Limbaugh, and everything to do about silencing any vocal opposition to the ascendancy to power, no matter who's rights, or life gets snuffed out along the way.

For more than 40 years they have ridden the coat tails of those whom they really despise, but actually secure our rights such as freedom of speech.

On scale, there is really no difference comparing what they are trying to do to particular type of media out there, versus the thousands protesting in Burma, being carted off to never be heard from again.

Once they silence that medium, do you think they will stand for folks like us?

Do you?

Rush owns his show - Clear Channel cannot fire him. I am sure this has just fired up Rush's advertisers who he vets personally.

Rush would love for Harry and any other democrat to come out of Congress and on the record on the news so he could sue the pants off of them.

That is why no Democrat will come on a news show and say anything. Rush's lawyers are waiting for it and they will move smoothly into action given any provocation whatsoever.

Don't worry about Rush. They picked the wrong guy to tangle with.

re: #128 jopa416

If this is true then republicans have a super bright future because the military is overwhelmingly republican. Just another inconvenient fact for the left to swallow.

Yeah but... You don't need an army of candidates, just a few will do, and I'm sure the Democrats will nominate a fair share of anti-war Iraq War Veteran candidates in the coming elections.

Alls I'm saying is that Rush went too far with the suicide bomber analogy when he was describing the anti-war vet. Way too far.

re: #64 sa trawler

Well, the number line I remember from high school has as many negative points as positive ones. What is, is.

re: #135 bikermailman

I listen to whoever is on the radio when traveling. Glenn Beck is pretty good and the amazing thing is that he gets air time all over Iowa.

re: #82 SecretInternetDoucheBag

Hey check out Michelle Maulkins front page she has little John Lee Malvo writing Islamic material.

From your link:

Cheryll Witz was in the Costco in Tucson, Ariz., shopping for a birthday cake when her cell phone rang. Waiting to speak to her was one of the nation’s most notorious serial killers — the man who five years ago had killed her father.

“I need to apologize for what I’ve done to you and your family,” Lee Boyd Malvo told her on Sept. 20.

Witz stood, stunned, in the shopping aisles.

“I was standing in the Costco bawling my eyes out,” she said.

In March 2002, Malvo shot and killed Witz’s father, Jerry Taylor, as he practiced chip shots on a golf-course practice green. Taylor’s murder was a precursor to a killing spree that terrorized the Washington, D.C., area, in which the teenage Malvo and partner John Allen Muhammad killed 10 people and wounded three others over a three-week span that began Oct. 2, 2002.

Malvo placed the call to Witz through a third party. He had initially called a producer at ABC News, who then used three-way calling to connect Malvo to Witz after she agreed to take the call. Such calls violate prison policy, said Virginia Department of Corrections spokesman Larry Traylor.

WOW...just WOW. ABC has hit rock bottom with this. What has the MSM become? This rat thinks they found a way to make money at the expense of a victim of this little jihadist shitbag.

Fuck ABC.

re: #121 Mich-again

re: #94 ChenZhen

I heard Rush's response to the VoteVet's ad on his show today. The first thing I thought was that it apparently never occurred to Rush that the guy can think for himself. So, I'd say, yea, Rush has dug a deeper hole for himself here.

I agree with ChenZhen.

Ha. Have those words ever been typed before?

You are way off base with this one. Totally out of context.

And, just for the record, as the half dozen or so people that read my blog would know, I think the whole thing is pretty silly. Especially those resolutions being brought before Congress. It's as big a waste of Congress' time as the MoveOn outrage.

Fairbanksing 362 up, 14 down

A gratuitous fabrication in a story when the truth would have served just fine.

This style was made famous by Eve Fairbanks, Reporter/Researcher for The New Republic and opinion writer for The Examiner .

Examples: "Shooter told me he drives a hybrid car." from "Searching for Mr. Right" in The New Republic, 3 July 2006 (the "date" has a serious issue with his 1972 Muscle Car described as a hybrid); "Gossip hounds knocked on Sasha’s door in Queens . . ." from "Big Shame in a Small World" in The Examiner, 31 July 2006 (that did not appear in the article that Fairbanks was describing and added nothing to the story, however the author had been interviewed by a gossip columnist about her "Mr. Right story a few weeks prior); "Thanks to the Web site, Sasha’s brother, who is in the military, got in trouble with his superior officers." same publication (in the story Fairbanks was describing the brother got in trouble for threatening a civilian running a website, not because of anything on the website).

re: #138 savage_nation

Didn't we talk about Jesse MacBeth months ago, before Rush ran with the story?

He was commenting upon Jesse's Sentencing. "Fake veteran gets 5-month sentence"

The modern "liberal" is an exponent of moral equivalency, and trying to achieve payback from condemnation of the notorious General Betray Us ad to through what at worst would be a slip of the Limbaugh tongue (and I for one think that a man who has demonstrated such support of the troops would never make a generalized "phony soldier" remark) just demonstrates the kindergarten mentality (or is it Mafia mentality?) of the left.

It's that simple. Don't try to over-analyze it.

It is very telling that daily kos, media matters, and others don't seem to care about the ABC news story titled "Phony Hero's" that ran a few days earlier.

Such selective outrage from a group of known military haters. It is hard watching & read their blatant lies but it will not work out in their favor...the more shrill they become (and they are extremely shrill right now)...the more you can be sure that they are not achieving the results they had hoped for on this. They are losing. They are losing big.

re: #138 savage_nation

Didn't we talk about Jesse MacBeth months ago, before Rush ran with the story?

Sure, many sites did. But just recently his case was adjudicated and he was back in the news.

Of course, the left conveniently ignored any mention of that.

re: #94 ChenZhen

I heard Rush's response to the VoteVet's ad on his show today. The first thing I thought was that it apparently never occurred to Rush that the guy can think for himself. So, I'd say, yea, Rush has dug a deeper hole for himself here.

Thank you for the Hezbollah view of this controversy.

re: #142 moonflower

I am sure this has just fired up Rush's advertisers who he vets personally.

Yes- I said this on an earlier thread- there is a waiting list to get airtime on his show. Advertisers would not be missed if they started to pull, and I'm certain none are thinking about it. All the left is doing is giving Rush free publicity.

Ahmadinejad can say what he wants, when he wants and where he wants but Rush Limbaugh can not.

Liberalism is a disease.

re: #89 ornery elephant

It is surprising to me that discussions concerning a third party are usually centered around disatisfaction within the republican ranks. If I were a moderate dem, I would be looking for a reasonable option. At least the republicans don't have viable whackos that have a chance at the nomination. (btw, I do not consider Ron Paul in the least bit viable.)

re: #147 DesertSage

Heres my point, if Rush actually said this, (and who can say if he really did seeing as the KosKid's linky no worky)...

"This is such a blatant use of a valiant combat veteran, lying to him about what I said and then strapping those lies to his belt, sending him out via the media and a TV ad to walk into as many people as he can walk into.

Then thats just plain stupid.

re: #133 Killgore Trout

re: #94 ChenZhen

Chen, I know you were curious about my statement that you are lacking honesty. This is a great example; You know that he was talking about Jesse Macbeth but you don't seem to care about the truth of the situation despite the facts. You're not being honest with yourself.
I think Rush stinks and I haven't really been following the controversy but he's right on this one .

You're putting words in my mouth. Rush dug a deeper hole by assuming that the VoteVet's soldier was being lied to, and apparently unable to arrive at an honest reaction to Rush's comments on his own. That's all I've said.

re: #143 Mich-again

re: #128 jopa416

If this is true then republicans have a super bright future because the military is overwhelmingly republican. Just another inconvenient fact for the left to swallow.

Yeah but... You don't need an army of candidates, just a few will do, and I'm sure the Democrats will nominate a fair share of anti-war Iraq War Veteran candidates in the coming elections.

Alls I'm saying is that Rush went too far with the suicide bomber analogy when he was describing the anti-war vet. Way too far.

Again, you're taking it out of context. You're doing the exact same thing that Media Matters did.

There's no way Rush went too far. And I hope he takes it even farther. I hope he gets some Iraq vets on his show that will counter the VoteVets guys.

The anti-VoteVet soldiers outnumber the VoteVet soldiers 50 to 1!

And the Demonbrats already tried to get veterans to run last election, it didn't work out too well for them.

re: #77 BulgarWheat
it is going to get scary closer to election time! These people are disperate!

re: #128 jopa416

re: #114 Mich-again

"I've said for a long time here that in the coming years American politics will be dominated by veterans from this war,"

If this is true then republicans have a super bright future because the military is overwhelmingly republican. Just another inconvenient fact for the left to swallow.

I can't recall who linked it here the other day, but
Returning Soldiers Gunning For Democrats

re: #164 beachkatie

re: #77 BulgarWheat
it is going to get scary closer to election time! These people are disperate!

"You ain't seen nothing yet..."

The 2004 election was just a warm up. I suspect that we will see an incredible amount of voter fraud coming from the left (win at any cost).

re: #143 Mich-again

Yeah, well boo hoo about your hurt feelings that he went too far with an analogy. I read the hatred that the left spews daily, I see their lies, the dishonest way they pose themselves...he could have gone further and not offend me a single bit.

Like I posted earlier...such selective outrage from the left in this country. Why aren't they condemning Murtha for his lies about real war hears.

Yep, you can count me out as someone who would worry about hurt feeling for anyone at KOS, votevets, moveon, and the like.

re: #158 Friend of USA

Are there still laws governing quarantines for highly infectious diseases? Might be time to break 'em out before we are lost.

re: #138 savage_nation

Didn't we talk about Jesse MacBeth months ago, before Rush ran with the story?

Yeah, but it resurfaced last week, when he was sentenced. To five frakkin' months. We still beat him by days, though.

re: #166 Perplexed

And lawyers deciding who win the vote again!

re: #163 DesertSage

Its not taking someone out of context when you use their exact words. Keep in mind, we're not talking about the original non-story story about Jesse McBeth, the genuine phony soldier.. I'm talking about Charles' update to the thread.

re: #81 anotherindyfilmguy

He can't sue because he is a "public figure".

j

re: #161 ChenZhen

re: #133 Killgore Trout

re: #94 ChenZhen

Chen, I know you were curious about my statement that you are lacking honesty. This is a great example; You know that he was talking about Jesse Macbeth but you don't seem to care about the truth of the situation despite the facts. You're not being honest with yourself.
I think Rush stinks and I haven't really been following the controversy but he's right on this one .

You're putting words in my mouth. Rush dug a deeper hole by assuming that the VoteVet's soldier was being lied to, and apparently unable to arrive at an honest reaction to Rush's comments on his own. That's all I've said.

Deeper hole my eye. He didn't dig a hole in the first place. He doesn't even have a shovel. The LLL's typically carry a backhoe in their purses.

re: #159 peck

If Hilary is nominated I'd not be surprised if some of the loony left push a third (fourth?) party candidate. They like Nader much more than either Clinton.

re: #166 Perplexed

re: #164 beachkatie

re: #77 BulgarWheat
it is going to get scary closer to election time! These people are disperate!

"You ain't seen nothing yet..."

The 2004 election was just a warm up. I suspect that we will see an incredible amount of voter fraud coming from the left (win at any cost).

Hey we have Diebold!

re: #143 Mich-again

One more note on this...Cindy Sheehan claimed that she thought for herself too and look how the left abandoned her when her usefulness was gone. This poor soldier will be getting the same kind of "respect" from vetovets in the future. I am 100% sure.

re: #157 Sharmuta

Thats for sure - Rush gets over 15 million listeners a week, more than the major network newscasts put together.

Hence the motivation to silence him somehow.

Good luck. Almost every company that advertises on Rush's show goes bonkers almost immediately. Capitalism at work.

re: #160 Mich-again

Here's my point-

You're assuming that Rush was in a hole to begin with...he wasn't!

Now he's exposing the lies and hypocrisies of the Left, and how they use Iraqi veterans to speak out against the war. Those VoteVet's are a huge minority...HUGE! Now that we're making progress in Iraq the Left is getting desperate!

95% of the military have enlisted or re-enlisted since we've been in Iraq, they know what they're getting into. They want to be there! They want to complete their mission. The VoteVet's are a fringe compared to the rest of the military. The Left uses them. You my friend are falling for their propaganda.

re: #139 leepro

Yes, if this is 'progress'...I am not a fan ,but the demonrats are a lynch mob.

Read the list of traitors. And guess who is a signature? Hope she(?) gets into trouble with some of the voters..new level to stoop to.

The sick fact is that the Daily Kosmonauts have said much worse things about the troops than this fake phoney solder story and you don’t see Reid and the meatpuppet Harkin condemning them. The left is all about censorship and silencing all who disagree with their views.

re: #160 Mich-again

Rhetorical analogy Mich-again.

It might not be an analogy that we would ascribe to, but then again.

I put this on the same level as rathergate.

No doubt, even if he put his foot in his mouth, that does not negate the fact that you have a tax exempt group, very more than just casual ties to the leading candidate of the democrat party, riding this outside the bounds of federal election rules.

This is classic political bait and switch. They did have a phony soldier pimping their prop, Rush called them on it, they need to get over it and not try to substitute a real soldier for a phony.

Me thinks they had to come up with SOMETHING to occupy the press so they don't mention the fact that the surge in Iraq is working significantly better than any body expected.

Look!
Over there!
A bunny rabbit!

re: #137 Pythagoras

re: #89 ornery elephant

You might be on to something there. Libs like to "visualize world peace" and things like that as if they can make something true just by pretending that it already is. They stray a little too far into fantasy land.

This, of course, makes them fools.

Visualize world peace?!? Man, I'm getting all my misconceptions shattered tonight. I always thought the moonbats were sayin,"Visualize whirled peas." I just kept see these little green vegetables spinning 'round and 'round and 'round...

re: #170 beachkatie

re: #166 Perplexed

And lawyers deciding who win the vote again!

I hope that the American people will rise above that, but suspect that we may have to endure another election with that as a possiblility.

Say what you want to about Nixon at least he had the honor to not contest the 1960 election with the massive voter fraud committed in Texas and Illinois. The Gore-bot has no honor. Kerry knew he'd lost even with the voter fraud committed in his name. Look at the number of people arrested and convicted for voter fraud. The vast majority of them have a D by their name.

re: #161 ChenZhen

re: #133 Killgore Trout

re: #94 ChenZhen

Chen, I know you were curious about my statement that you are lacking honesty. This is a great example; You know that he was talking about Jesse Macbeth but you don't seem to care about the truth of the situation despite the facts. You're not being honest with yourself.
I think Rush stinks and I haven't really been following the controversy but he's right on this one .

You're putting words in my mouth. Rush dug a deeper hole by assuming that the VoteVet's soldier was being lied to, and apparently unable to arrive at an honest reaction to Rush's comments on his own. That's all I've said.

He's reacting to the Media Matter version of the story, just like the rest of the media talking heads who have no idea what was actually said and in what context. That's as plain as day.

The left sure know how to take a lie to its logical conclusion -- More lies!

Rush adores the troops. Rush was talking about Jesse MacBeth and Scott Beauchamp -- "Phony soldiers"

re: #161 ChenZhen

Limbaugh Whines: They’re Quoting My Words! It’s a Smear Campaign!

There's a big difference between quoting somebody and taking their words out of context and you know that. Moveon was talking about Prataeus, Rush was talking about Jesse Macbeth, and Omeish was talking about support for Palestinian terrorists. Those are facts. To pretend that a quote and a quote taken out of context are analogous is just beyond stupid and self delusional.

re: #175 SecretInternetDoucheBag

Tain't funny Maggee.

re: #184 hous bin pharteen

Give that man a cigar.

I'm not a photo shop guy, but I would love to see the picture that Kos had on their web shit of President Bush and Congressman Lieberman, morphed into Soros, with Hillary on her knees with, Mutha, Turban, Kennedy, Heiz-Kerry, Pelsoi, Hagel, and the rest of these slime waiting for sloppy seconds.

re: #173 Cattt

re: #161 ChenZhen

re: #133 Killgore Trout

re: #94 ChenZhen
Chen, I know you were curious about my statement that you are lacking honesty. This is a great example; You know that he was talking about Jesse Macbeth but you don't seem to care about the truth of the situation despite the facts. You're not being honest with yourself.
I think Rush stinks and I haven't really been following the controversy but he's right on this one .

You're putting words in my mouth. Rush dug a deeper hole by assuming that the VoteVet's soldier was being lied to, and apparently unable to arrive at an honest reaction to Rush's comments on his own. That's all I've said.

Deeper hole my eye. He didn't dig a hole in the first place. He doesn't even have a shovel. The LLL's typically carry a backhoe in their purses.

In their purses...heh

re: #176 jopa416

This poor soldier will be getting the same kind of "respect" from vetovets in the future. I am 100% sure.

I don't doubt that at all.

re: #92 Bobibutu

You can't tell what the conversation is about if you just start at the phone call. Go back and hear the entire show. He was talking about people who are pretending to be soldiers in combat or soldiers with no combat experience, trashing the war and other troops. That phone call was an extension of his earlier discussion. I listened to the entire show that day and this lefty attack is a bunch of bull poop.
j

Yup, it's begun. The Clintons are back in town. This is only the beginning and it's going to get worse.

If I were any low/high profile conservative; right, left or center, I would stay clear of airport bathrooms for the next 18 months. Bloggers beware also. It's going to get nasty and many will go down.

re: #173 Cattt

He didn't dig a hole in the first place. He doesn't even have a shovel. The LLL's typically carry a backhoe in their purses up their asses.

Fixed it for you!

re: #184 hous bin pharteen

they had to come up with SOMETHING to occupy the press

Harry Reid and the Democratic Senate haven't passed a single one of the twelve appropriation bills by the October 1 deadline.
(Nancy has passed all 12 in the House.)

Are you a conservative? Getting weary of the fight? Need a pep talk?

Here's one heckuva pep talk!

Chen, you might want to skip this one. :wink:

re: #171 Mich-again

Its taking someone out of context when you use their exact words. Keep in mind, we're talking about the original story about Jesse McBeth, the genuine soldier.. I'm talking about Charles' thread.

Gee...see how that works? I used you EXACT words. Does it look familiar?

It's a Media Matters/Michael Moore/Leftist trick.

re: #189 FrogMarch

The left sure know how to take a lie to its logical conclusion -- More lies!

Rush adores the troops. Rush was talking about Jesse MacBeth and Scott Beauchamp -- "Phony soldiers"

And the troops adore him. If Dingy Harry and the rest of the Donks succeed in getting the last one hour of his show off Armed Forces Radio (they only hear one hour out of three, thanks to previous Democrat snits), there'll be thousands and thousands of pissed off soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines.

re: #177 moonflower

And like I was saying- any advertiser dumb enough to yank themselves will be replaced immediately- supply and demand. If Rush garners more listeners from this free publicity, those advertisers would also have a larger audience, with Rush being able to charge even more for his airtime. He's really got to be LH(is)AO over all this.

re: #179 DesertSage

You my friend are falling for their propaganda.

Oh not me, I don't fall for anyone's propaganda. I said earlier in this thread that perception is reality and it isn't always about facts when it comes to the media and a story. So knowing that, a pundit has to pick their words wisely, Rush didn't. Then in his defense, he compares a detractor who just happens to be a Veteran to a suicide bomber. Rush needs to just shut up for a while.

re: #190 Killgore Trout

Limbaugh Whines: They’re Quoting My Words! It’s a Smear Campaign!

Is that what his blog headline is?

re: #182 formercorpsman

My point is why give the other team Bulletin Board material? Its dumb.

re: #204 Spiny Norman

re: #189 FrogMarch

The left sure know how to take a lie to its logical conclusion -- More lies!

Rush adores the troops. Rush was talking about Jesse MacBeth and Scott Beauchamp -- "Phony soldiers"

And the troops adore him. If Dingy Harry and the rest of the Donks succeed in getting the last one hour of his show off Armed Forces Radio (they only hear one hour out of three, thanks to previous Democrat snits), there'll be thousands and thousands of pissed off soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines.

The democrats are neo-Stalinists. They are liars and they suck the life, liberty and freedom out of everything.

Where's (that implied Hunky!) George Clooney when you need him..? Instead of rehashing a 40 year old McCarthy story, why not attack Reid as the new McCarthy?

What's next, Dingy? You going to start blacklisting us for supporting Rush? For not signing something, let's pretend it's called a loyalty oath, to the Democratic Party?

I can't believe that creepy, cryptkeeper of a man can stand on the senate floor and talk about Rush and Patriotism and be struck down on the spot (that's not a threat, but a feeling of dismay there was not some kind of Biblical / mythical punishment for his behavior).

I think I'm digressing, but this is a low point for politics. For America.

The Big Lie Left is on a tear.. but the more they spout bloody terror at Rush.. the more people who look up Rush's side and see how the left lies.

/Stalin would be proud of them ..but until Newspeak is manditory under law.. they lose.

re: #192 buzzsawmonkey

re: #166 Perplexed

I suspect that we will see an incredible amount of voter fraud coming from the left (win at any cost).

The Left is still yammering about vote fraud in 2000 and 2004; moonbat journalist Greg Palast has been beating the drum about anti-black vote fraud, piggybacked it on top of Katrina outrage, and has a film about it that has been making the rounds.

Consider this pre-emptive groundwork being laid to create a subliminal belief in people's minds that the Republicans have been engaged in massive fraud, which will be built on if the election does not come out the way the Left wants.

The vote fraud and dirty tricks (including disabling buses in Milwaukee to prevent them taking people to the polls) by the Democrats in the last election got relatively little (and that little, relatively brief) play. The "Republicans = vote fraud" machine has been clanking away quietly for seven years now.

HBO"s making a movie about it, Kevin Spacey starring... they just can't get over it.

Rush needs to post a rogues gallery of phony soldiers that the left fellates (see zombie photo) who are known to date. I'm sure there will be many many more.

The bright side to all of this. The thing that the left does not see is that if, IF, they ever succeed in getting Rush off of the radio (and I don't think they will but playing devils advocate) he would immediately be scooped up by Satellite radio and would singlehandedly save that industry (just like he did for AM radio) by bringing 15 million subscribers with him.

At that point the left would still have Rush's thorn in their sides & they would have a very pissed off group of constituents in this country to cope with.

I sometimes wonder if the leftist media & politicians, in their zeal to hate Bush, realizes that there are a boatload of viewers/voters who will never be coming back, no matter what happens, ever. If I had to choose between voting for a democrat or a cockroach I would pick the cockroach. This will be my view forever...I am not that old.

re: #208 Mich-again

Oh not me, I don't fall for anyone's propaganda.

You didn't read my #203. Those are your words, you said them.

This is what it's all about, Media Matters distorting what people say, taking them out of context.
And you're falling for it by saying that Rush ought to shut up.
NO! Rush ought to speak out and expose these frauds for what they are...and we should have his back!

Not tell him to shut up.

re: #214 Thanos

re: #192 buzzsawmonkey

re: #166 Perplexed

I suspect that we will see an incredible amount of voter fraud coming from the left (win at any cost).

The Left is still yammering about vote fraud in 2000 and 2004; moonbat journalist Greg Palast has been beating the drum about anti-black vote fraud, piggybacked it on top of Katrina outrage, and has a film about it that has been making the rounds.
Consider this pre-emptive groundwork being laid to create a subliminal belief in people's minds that the Republicans have been engaged in massive fraud, which will be built on if the election does not come out the way the Left wants.

The vote fraud and dirty tricks (including disabling buses in Milwaukee to prevent them taking people to the polls) by the Democrats in the last election got relatively little (and that little, relatively brief) play. The "Republicans = vote fraud" machine has been clanking away quietly for seven years now.

HBO"s making a movie about it, Kevin Spacey starring... they just can't get over it.

Is that before or after they replay the whole Bush made Katrina movie by Spike lee? Or is it after Bill Mauhers lovely show? HBO sucks now that they got rid of Rome.

re: #209 Sharmuta

Yup. It was mocking the LGF headline MAS Leader Whines: They're Quoting My Words! It's a Smear Campaign!

re: #197 jfromfolsomca

re: #92 Bobibutu

You can't tell what the conversation is about if you just start at the phone call. Go back and hear the entire show. He was talking about people who are pretending to be soldiers in combat or soldiers with no combat experience, trashing the war and other troops. That phone call was an extension of his earlier discussion. I listened to the entire show that day and this lefty attack is a bunch of bull poop.
j

Agreed. I haven't listened to Rush regularly for years and just happened to catch him today.

Forget that noise, anybody with a functional brain knows Rush would not disparage the REAL troops! What really pissed me off today was henry waxman using a hypothetical when he was talking about Blackwater operators "if a drunken soldier killed a civilian we would prosecute him". Pull your dress down a little bit henry your bias is showing!

re: #212 brent

Where's (that implied Hunky!) George Clooney when you need him..? Instead of rehashing a 40 year old McCarthy story, why not attack Reid as the new McCarthy?

What's next, Dingy? You going to start blacklisting us for supporting Rush? For not signing something, let's pretend it's called a loyalty oath, to the Democratic Party?

I can't believe that creepy, cryptkeeper of a man can stand on the senate floor and talk about Rush and Patriotism and be struck down on the spot (that's not a threat, but a feeling of dismay there was not some kind of Biblical / mythical punishment for his behavior).

I think I'm digressing, but this is a low point for politics. For America.

Heroes are made in the darkest hour. Rush is pushing it back in their faces, and just like with the Rather phony memo - this too will blow up in their faces.

Cue the Wiley E. Coyote cartoon with him holding the blown up package. Beep. Beep.

re: #217 DesertSage

re: #208 Mich-again

Oh not me, I don't fall for anyone's propaganda.

You didn't read my #203. Those are your words, you said them.

This is what it's all about, Media Matters distorting what people say, taking them out of context.
And you're falling for it by saying that Rush ought to shut up.
NO! Rush ought to speak out and expose these frauds for what they are...and we should have his back!

Not tell him to shut up.

Now is NOT the time to back down against these bullies. Clarence Thomas is our example. This is another high tech lynching.

re: #221 Dadzilla

Forget that noise, anybody with a functional brain knows Rush would not disparage the REAL troops! What really pissed me off today was henry Witch-hunt waxman using a hypothetical when he was talking about Blackwater operators "if a drunken soldier killed a civilian we would prosecute him". Pull your dress down a little bit henry your bias is showing!

Fixed that for you

re: #219 Killgore Trout

Yeah- I got that. Last night he was "brainstorming" about LGF merchandise, and he's still mocking Charles after he posted at stalker blog #1. Really lovely troll we got here.

BTW

Gateway Pundit has a good overview of Votevets, the liberal group founded by Wesley Clark that is smearing Rush in a commercial. It appears that they have had their own previous "phony soldier" moment. You almost couldn't make this nonsense up.

re: #224 DistantThunder

Now is NOT the time to back down against these bullies. Clarence Thomas is our example. This is another high tech lynching.

Indeed!

OK, let's use some careful deconstruction. The question is whether Rush's reference was to all the soldiers in a broad group of just to the phony soldiers (meaning the ones who really are phony). The simple fact of the matter is that it can be taken either way. The statement does not have a clear antecedent -- it's too brief. He could have been agreeing with the callers antecedent or he could have been clarifying it.

So, the left is wrong because they insist that Rush HAD TO mean all soldiers who are against the war. The rules of English grammar do not support that point.

But understand that we should not argue that Rush HAD TO only be referring to the truly phony soldiers -- the grammar doesn't do that either. The grammar is ambiguous and that means the criticism of Rush is wrong.

Stick to that (not that logic works on the left).

Clear Channel replies to Harry Reid:

[Link: download.premiereradio.net...]

re: #172 jfromfolsomca

re: #81 anotherindyfilmguy

He can't sue because he is a "public figure".

j

Yes he could*, but he probably won't because he'll make tons more money milking the controversy on air than he ever would by getting a judgment against them and then trying to collect it...

*it's not a paparazzi thing rather he could sue because lies have been directly told about him in the face of cold hard evidence to the contrary in a direct attempt to smear him. Some of the people in question are shielded somewhat by putting their lies forward on the floor of the senate, but the "news corporation" deliberately lying is a whole different kettle of fish and fair game. Some celebrities have sued paparazzi rags successfully, not for the pictures but the libel in the articles and won (although most are settled out of court).

On a more interesting note the stalinists put forward a demand to Rush's clear channel leadership to apologize/take action and clear channel said (politely) short version-> "no"...

I don't give a crap about what is being accused. What was actually said is what matters. Right? I would also think that some context and historical element would be taken into consideration. That being the case, and based upon the statement ...
"case closed".
Now, with regard to the statement by a certain Ms. Eve Fairbanks -
it would appear that her “karmic satisfaction" = 'sexual release'
/n'est-ce pas?

Remember now kids.

We are talking about groups and a political party who try to get the votes of soldiers discarded.
They have tried to disenfranchise our military in the past.
Same me the faux tears Bolshevicks.

re: #210 Mich-again

I think that is where I actually might have agreed with you.

As well, I know you realize the hypocrisy without going into a litany.

The facts still remain, they were trolling for anything. If not this, it would have been something else.

I think, we have a major problem with collusion, when a tax exempt organization is walking lock-step with a major political party, and driving legislative maneuvering against free speech.

I actually think this is where Mr. Limbaugh should be a little more bombastic.

Listen, I won't get get into a pissing contest just because we see this through a different lens.

I took the time to here what he said.

Was it his best commentary? No.

I am much more concerned with the fact you have a political party at the behest of very partisan interest groups with no respect for the constitution.

re: #226 Sharmuta

Chen's not really a bad guy, I like him (her) but I'm afraid Chen is beyond hope.

Between the this's & that's, the here's and the there's, the very short fuse is burning.

re: #188 Spiny Norman

re: #161 ChenZhen

re: #133 Killgore Trout

re: #94 ChenZhen
Chen, I know you were curious about my statement that you are lacking honesty. This is a great example; You know that he was talking about Jesse Macbeth but you don't seem to care about the truth of the situation despite the facts. You're not being honest with yourself.
I think Rush stinks and I haven't really been following the controversy but he's right on this one .

You're putting words in my mouth. Rush dug a deeper hole by assuming that the VoteVet's soldier was being lied to, and apparently unable to arrive at an honest reaction to Rush's comments on his own. That's all I've said.

He's reacting to the Media Matter version of the story, just like the rest of the media talking heads who have no idea what was actually said and in what context. That's as plain as day.

Yes, because it's obvious to everyone that Rush's version is blocked on his computer. Yea, that's it.

I wonder if anyone, say 20 years in the future, will be able to connect the dots here... Geoge Soros makes a huge blunder attacking General Petraeus, hurting his beloved Dems (read, anyone but Bush). A week later, his fake news organ - that's good enough - Media Matters takes on conservative talkshow host so that Dems can bring a motion to the floor, thereby making the month a wash for Soros...

Something like that.

It's like kids in the back seat of a car playing "he touched me, no I didn't" for a million bucks a touch.

Hey George, if someone is reading this for you, you're a complete tool. Sit on your side of the car and shut up for 10 minutes. Thanks.

OT:

Pakistan election update, we are four days out from the assembly election, Musharraf named his successor as Army Chief, Bhutto was cleared of charges, lots of intricate maneuvering.

Chen,
Sorry to be tough on you but reality requires it. I'm off to eat da fish, you can retort later if you wish.

tfk,, joey gilbert? i don't get your link, but i live here and it sucks that he is apparently, a fraud. ;-( very sad, but i suppose we must wait till the(another?) test comes back, unless you mean a fraud like kerry?

re: #55 taxfreekiller

Dear Eve,

Notwithstanding all of the lies and fraud Lt. for life John F. Kerry Democrat for Pres. 2004 told to receive his false awards and citations, together with the lies and fraud he and his fake band of brothers like Al Hubbard swore to before the U.S. Senate where his sorry soul now rots in front of God and the whole of planet earth, with each of anyone who cares to see the facts knows he is the worlds worst liar and fraud. Yet your little mote in the eye of a fly on the mis quoted words of Rush, is that all you loons got, if so, give yourself a break, your toast.

ps
view this of one of us real Americans
and take a good look in his eyes when
he is close up, the fight is about to be
on, make yourselves ready, if its a fight
you want, your going to have one...

[Link: www.krnv.com...]
Mexican Flag Flown Wrong
Taken down Right.

re: #235 Killgore Trout

re: #226 Sharmuta

Chen's not really a bad guy, I like him (her) but I'm afraid Chen is beyond hope.

I have a feeling Chen will vote for Hillary when she wins the nomination. So yeah no hope there.

#208 Mich-again

Then in his defense, he compares a detractor who just happens to be a Veteran to a suicide bomber.

He didn't compare the detractor to a suicide bomber, he said liberals were using him like a suicide bomber. There is a difference. One is ascribing the motives to the detractor, the other to the liberals who are using the detractor.

re: #226 Sharmuta

re: #219 Killgore Trout

Yeah- I got that. Last night he was "brainstorming" about LGF merchandise, and he's still mocking Charles after he posted at stalker blog #1. Really lovely troll we got here.

I just thought it was a neat co-inky-dink that the thread appeared the same day that the Rush thing blew up. So I rolled with it.

re: #207 buzzsawmonkey

re: #200 song_and_dance_man

I still prefer "Medea Mutters"--but I'm prejudiced, since I came up with it.

But, she never mutters...she just caterwauls...

re: #238 brent

I wonder if anyone, say 20 years in the future, will be able to connect the dots here... Geoge Soros makes a huge blunder attacking General Petraeus, hurting his beloved Dems (read, anyone but Bush). A week later, his fake news organ - that's good enough - Media Matters takes on conservative talkshow host so that Dems can bring a motion to the floor, thereby making the month a wash for Soros...

Something like that.

It's like kids in the back seat of a car playing "he touched me, no I didn't" for a million bucks a touch.

Hey George, if someone is reading this for you, you're a complete tool. Sit on your side of the car and shut up for 10 minutes. Thanks.

You forgot to mention the Presidential candidate and the Retired General in Soro's pocket:
Hillary Clinton and Wesley Clarke.

Who Really Lifts Troop Morale?

Harry "the war is lost" Reid

-or-

Rush Limbaugh

(pssst - fuck you harry reid)

I'm not a lawyer, but - I believe a public figure can sue in this case IF he can prove malice of intent(?)... Is that it? I took business law 20 years ago, and the short answer is yes, a public figure can sue, but the burden of proof is more than proving something false. He/she has to prove that it was negligent(?) to make said statements...

Again, that's close enough for horeshoes and handgrenades...

re: #247 Thanos

Well if you will take money from the Red Chinese then you would take money from a Billionaire socialist its just that simple.

re: #234 formercorpsman

I think, we have a major problem with collusion, when a tax exempt organization is walking lock-step with a major political party, and driving legislative maneuvering against free speech.

I actually think this is where Mr. Limbaugh should be a little more bombastic.

I agree with you. That should have been the story here.

re: #172 jfromfolsomca

re: #81 anotherindyfilmguy

He can't sue because he is a "public figure".

j

well, for that matter so is Harry Fucking Reid. Guess we're safe from him too.

re: #243 mountain

There is a difference.

If you split hairs.

Here it is...

where a public figure attempts to bring an action for defamation, the public figure must prove an additional element: That the statement was made with "actual malice".

re: #239 Thanos

Thanos in bullet form, 5 points or less if you wish.

I like reading your stuff on Pakistan.

What do you think is going to become of their situation over the next year.

5.
4.
3.
2.
1.

opps, cut that off too soon...

In translation, that means that the person making the statement knew the statement to be false, or issued the statement with reckless disregard as to its truth.

re: #246 buzzsawmonkey

re: #245 bikermailman

Perhaps, but Media Matters is her sub rosa voice--hence the "Mutters."

Gotcha. Yes, yours rolls off the tounge much better. I was just being a smarty. But, I'll bet you knew that...lol

re: #39 Mich-again

Rush brought it on himself with his poor choice of words.

Not at all, he is totally clear in context.

This whole thing is zero outrage, it's entirely faux, a "retribution" for the right complaining about the sliming of Gen. Petreus. It's - politics! But you make a mistake when you assign any kind of rationality to it, beyond that. It's 1000% a lie and a slander against Rush.

But using taxpayer money to admonish a member of the media is pure waste. Get a blog you dumbass Reid.

He can't. He says any of that off the Senate floor, he's in court and out a big, fat judgement.

Rush may have to take someone to court before this is over - or he may choose to, for sport.

re: #254 brent

Here it is...

where a public figure attempts to bring an action for defamation, the public figure must prove an additional element: That the statement was made with "actual malice".

Is that from Murtha's Law?

re: #244 ChenZhen

re: #226 Sharmuta

re: #219 Killgore Trout

Yeah- I got that. Last night he was "brainstorming" about LGF merchandise, and he's still mocking Charles after he posted at stalker blog #1. Really lovely troll we got here.

I just thought it was a neat co-inky-dink that the thread appeared the same day that the Rush thing blew up. So I rolled with it.

And you're close to rolling your last comment here.

Decency is apparently foreign to you.

re: #249 brent

I'm not a lawyer, but - I believe a public figure can sue in this case IF he can prove malice of intent(?)... Is that it? I took business law 20 years ago, and the short answer is yes, a public figure can sue, but the burden of proof is more than proving something false. He/she has to prove that it was negligent(?) to make said statements...

Again, that's close enough for horeshoes and handgrenades...

Malicious intent etc only adds to what may be pursued in any suit sought, he would only have to prove their actual actions, in this case of print-libel, by proving what they printed and disproving what they said and, perhaps this might hurt his case, any actual harm he suffers from the actions taken against him... In Rush's case the only harm is against his reputation for those who do not know him etc. The real harm is the danger of free speech being curtailed as the stalinists are overplaying their hands and showing themselves to the public for what they are. If Rushbo were fired/dropped by clear channel because of the lies in question then he would have more of a case but that isn't going to happen and he'll wind up making even more out of this in the long run.

re: #254 brent

Here it is...

where a public figure attempts to bring an action for defamation, the public figure must prove an additional element: That the statement was made with "actual malice".

How about other statutes, eg libel, proving monetary damages?

re: #254 brent

Here it is...

where a public figure attempts to bring an action for defamation, the public figure must prove an additional element: That the statement was made with "actual malice".

If it's Democrats trying to defame Rush Limbaugh, that's an easy one. The malice is overflowing, and has been for years.

unfortunatly I do not think he plans on running again, but then again, i did see that sickening smirk he had on electionnight, i can still see it and the laugh too, it is like mr burns from the simpsons, except reak, yikes! of course if he should try to run again i will devote every second of my day to defeat him. he is sslimy, I have met him.

em>re: #62 FrogMarch

Nevada voters - time to get rid of Reid.

re: #231 anotherindyfilmguy

I'm no lawyer. I was just repeating what Rush said today when someone suggested he sue Reed, etc.

j

re: #265 Spiny Norman

re: #254 brent

Here it is...

where a public figure attempts to bring an action for defamation, the public figure must prove an additional element: That the statement was made with "actual malice".

If it's Democrats trying to defame Rush Limbaugh, that's an easy one. The malice is overflowing, and has been for years.

Yeah, but it would never work in court, they say this with such great regret that *anyone* would say such a horrible thing, - that's not malice.

In fact, I'm officially tired of being stabbed in the back by ChenZhen, and he is now welcome to pursue his agenda without trying to disguise it.

re: #208 Mich-again

re: #235 Killgore Trout

He is storming mad.
He could have mad a better analogy.
My guess he did not know that soldiers history.
Of course you are going to have a few leftist vets.
It is just a matter of numbers.

buh-bye, ChenZhen, buh-bye...