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Phony 'Satirical' Anti-Muslim Posters Circulated at GWU

Tue, Oct 9, 2007 at 10:09:39 am PDT

At George Washington University, another outrageous action by the Saudi-funded radical Islamic front group calling itself the Muslim Student Association, as they circulate flyers purporting to be from a conservative campus group with disgusting anti-Muslim messages: Anti-Muslim Fliers Cause Uproar.

Posters appeared all over the George Washington University campus yesterday morning blaring the message: “HATE MUSLIMS? SO DO WE!!!”

Campus police moved quickly to remove the fliers, university leaders began investigating how they got there and student groups met last night to deplore the posters, which had a photo of an Arab and description of “typical Muslim” features such as “suicide vest,” “hidden AK-47” and “peg-leg for smuggling children and heroin.”

The posters managed to upset just about everyone on campus: Muslim students, other religious groups and conservatives who are hosting “Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week” later this month. Some questioned whether they were mocking the conservatives, pointing to fine print at the bottom — “Brought to you by Students for Conservativo-Fascism Awareness” — and a postscript recommending a BBC video on the politics of fear.

Any subtleties were lost under the gigantic headline, though.

Any subtleties, such as whether this was a complete setup and a hoax, are also quickly glossed over by the Washington Post, as they proceed to wring their hands over the dreadful hatred on display:

“I was just really shocked that this sort of hatred exists on our campus,” said Najah El Bash, a sophomore from New York who is one of the leaders of the GWU Muslim Students Association. “You never think this would come so close to home, from people you’re in classes with. . . . It’s scary.” It had to be well-planned, she said, for so many posters to go up so quickly.

GWU President Steven Knapp said in a statement last night, “There is no place for expressions of hatred on our campus.” He called the fliers reprehensible and said students of different faiths will be gathering this week for a community meal with Muslims during Ramadan. “This event speaks to our university’s commitment to global cultural understanding and respect.”

The poster describes “typical” Muslims and says, “To find out more, come to ISLAMO-FASCISM AWARENESS WEEK!!! For more information, contact the GWU Young America’s Foundation.”

Sergio Gor, a senior from Los Angeles who is the president of that group, said he was horrified when he heard about the fliers. “We did not put up those posters,” he said. “Someone took our name and used it. It was hateful.”

An LGF reader emails some interesting information; this morning on the Washington DC Fox 5 news channel, a Muslim student actually admitted putting up the fake posters—it was satire, he said.

The student ... was interviewed on Fox 5 this am, explaining the poster as ‘satire.’

But this revelation is nowhere to be found in the MSM reports.

UPDATE at 10/9/07 10:41:12 am:

More “satire” claims at the GW Hatchet student paper: After meeting, mixed views on anti-Muslim posters.

“We’re all here, we’re not all the same and we need to understand,” said sophomore Tarek Al-Hariri, president of GW Peace Forum, during the discussion. “I think something this morning happened. It may or may not have been taken the way it was supposed to be (and) may not have been a mistake. Nevertheless, people were affected and people took offense.”

Many of the students in attendance at the event said they were personally hurt by the posters that were hung. “This is the first time I felt attacked,” said Manalle Mahmoud, a junior who is of the Muslim faith.

Representatives from more than a dozen groups on campus and from Muslim, Catholic and Jewish faiths spoke in unison condemning the posters and the unidentified subjects who hung them.

“We wish to reaffirm our solidarity with all our brothers and sisters of all faith backgrounds and reiterate our commitment to greater understanding of all peoples, of all creeds and denominations,” said sophomore Brandon Hines, in a statement from the GW Catholic community.

Several students present at Monday night’s gathering attacked senior Sergio Gor, president of GW YAF, for today’s events. “We are being targeted because we are conservative,” said Gor, who left the meeting before its conclusion. “No way in shape or in form do we support hate speech.”

Gor said GW YAF is hosting several events at the end of the month for “Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week.” The week will feature two Iranian women - who were persecuted in the Islamic republic - and conservative writer and activist David Horowitz.

Some individuals in attendance at Monday’s discussion said this situation is not as bad as it seems. Lara Nasri, a graduate student and a member of the Campus Anti-War Network, said the video listed on the poster, “The Power of Nightmares,” was a documentary questioning the West’s fear of terrorist networks. “It was completely satirical and overblown,” Nasri said. “It was the antithesis of racism.”

Gor disagreed with Nasri. “This is not satirical,” said Sergio Gor. “It is hatred.”

And here’s the phony poster:

UPDATE at 10/10/07 10:00:10 am:

A group of leftist and Islamist students has now admitted posting the phony fliers.

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1 doppelganglander  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:11:55am

Fake, just like every other anti-Muslim "hate crime."

2 TMF  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:12:21am

My alma mater

Plenty of moonbats-

And Saudis, too! Back in the early 90s/late 80s we werent too concerned about Wahabism, perhaps we should have been

3 Black George Bush  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:13:03am

Dont let facts get in the way of the action line.

4 commander_vimes  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:13:04am

'course not. If it happens on fox (or affiliate), it isn't real. right?

5 Sponge  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:13:10am

Well, at least they know what they look like to the rest of the world.

6 jcm  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:14:06am

See Islamophobia is rampant!
/

7 Furry Lewis  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:14:27am

Ahmed Abdel Wahab is a student at the Dan Rather school of journalism.

1st post!

8 lefty201  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:14:47am

this is going to win a barbrady award.


"nothing to see here, move on folks"

9 Bill Amos  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:15:15am

Meanwhile the Sultan of Dubai is passing out money to airport security workers

[Link: www.wlky.com...]

10/9/07: Sheikh's Tip Money Denied To Airport Guards

POSTED: 9:17 am EDT October 9, 2007
UPDATED: 10:18 am EDT October 9, 2007

LEXINGTON, Ky. -- Thousands of dollars in tip money for Blue Grass Airport employees from members of the ruling family of Dubai was handed over to a Lexington lawyer Monday.

Lawyer William Bishop said he has not been directed
what to do with the money, but he knows it isn't his.

Bishop retrieved three envelopes from the airport
containing $8,000 cash and 19 unopened envelopes that
airport officials thought also contained cash.

The money and the envelopes were left by members of
the Maktoum family for airport employees about a month
ago as gratuities for providing security for United
Arab Emirates planes parked at the airport.

The airport's legal counsel interpreted a state law to
mean that it is illegal for airport public safety
officers to accept tips while on the job at the airport.

10 Pent.  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:15:20am

This 'satire' line is getting old. They could at least come up with a better excuse.

11 samhein  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:15:33am

So, will this guy be punished? Of course not! But had it actually been the Young America Foundation, they would have been repremanded in some way.

12 maddogg  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:15:38am

Islamophobia! Islamophobia!

/yep, I got it.

13 loppyd  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:15:42am

Heard this on the news this morning and knew it would be an LGF topic.

Of course they were plants. It's their modus operandi.

14 tommygum  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:16:21am

re: #7 Furry Lewis

Welcome aboard.

15 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:16:30am

How long before they claim the posters were fake but accurate?

16 Iron Fist  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:16:32am

This is so much more important than little things like DEPLORING MUSLIM TERRORISM. When the backlash finally hits, they will wonder where it came from.

*spit*

17 Sponge  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:16:33am

Really.....How funny would it have been if the 'religion of piece(s)' immediately started seething and rioting this morning and burned down the campus.

Nice little piece of satire, asshat. No wonder I hate you.

18 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:16:52am

A Muslim was subtle enough to get satire?

19 pingjockey  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:16:57am

Satire! I call bullshit. They're trying and apparently succeeding in causing outrage that is real and could harm someone. The [bigoted word]s did this just like that teacher who trashed her own car then started yelling about hate crimes.

20 Bill Amos  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:17:01am

And sent this to charles. Syria is encouraging its people to become human sheilds at the golan heights

From Al Jazeera

21 NR Pax  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:17:43am

Hm. So I suppose that the campus police will react quickly, arrest the man who put up the posters, charge him with disturbing the peace or inciting a riot and force him to openly apologize to all of the groups he ticked off?

/what? Do I have to add it?

22 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:17:47am

It just hurts my brain when practitioners of a 7th Century ideology can apparently run circles around us in the PR game. I know it helps to have accomplices in the media, but dammit! They knew exactly what they were doing and this is now GWU's "Jenin" no matter how false it is.

23 Ziggy  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:18:00am
But this revelation is nowhere to be found in the MSM reports.


Minor and insignificant detail, who really cares.

24 Thanos  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:18:28am

It's always "satire" when your own words and actions are used against you. Except when it's in a court of law.

25 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:18:28am

Legal question: Could the Young Americans sue for slander or libel?

26 jcm  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:19:22am

re: #22 Spenser (with an S)

It just hurts my brain when practitioners of a 7th Century ideology can apparently run circles around us in the PR game. I know it helps to have accomplices in the media, but dammit! They knew exactly what they were doing and this is now GWU's "Jenin" no matter how false it is.

Mandatory "tolerance" classes for everyone, we can never let this happen again.

/GWU Admin

27 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:19:43am

Attention 'liberal" lurkers! KosKids, DUers, Indymedia, whomever - I'm talking to you.

Please note that if you have to fake the evidence proving your side, your side is likely wrong.

28 Pent.  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:19:54am

re: #25 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

'"Defamation" is the general term used internationally, and is used in this article where it is not necessary to distinguish between "slander" and "libel". Libel and slander both require publication. The fundamental distinction between libel and slander lies solely in the form in which the defamatory matter is published. If the offending material is published in some fleeting form, as by spoken words or sounds, sign language, gestures and the like, then this is slander. If it is published in more durable form, for example in written words, film, compact disc (CD), DVD, blogging and the like, then it is considered libel.'

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

29 Terp Mole  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:21:20am

GW Hatchet has a photo of the confessed hoaxer today arguing with GW YAF president;

Student Ahmed Abdel Wahab (center left) argues with Sergio Gor (far left), president of the GW Young America's Foundation, whose group was named on the anti-Muslim posters hung around campus Monday morning.
30 Sponge  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:22:16am
#22 Spenser (with an S)

It just hurts my brain when practitioners of a 7th Century ideology can apparently run circles around us in the PR game. I know it helps to have accomplices in the media, but dammit! They knew exactly what they were doing and this is now GWU's "Jenin" no matter how false it is.

With nancy pillowsee spouting that we're illegally torturing enemy combatants and harry reed spouting that we lost the war, why WOULDN'T they get in the PR game? The LEFT eats that shit UP and the terrorist pissbags know it.

31 chinesearithmetic  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:22:44am

Pandering Press Pimps Pity Party, Pure Poseurs

32 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:22:44am
33 bald headed geek  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:22:48am

We have come to the point where there is only ONE religiously protected class (Islam), and only ONE form of racism which is condemned (the so-called "Islamophobia"). That protected group/class is free to do whatever it wants, whenever it wants, because as soon as questions are raised, there is CAIR to sceam "ISLAMOPHOBIA".

The thing is, we have made it possible for them to do this with our ultra-PC attitudes. We have only ourselves to blame for their arrogance.

BHG

34 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:22:49am

Here's the video report.....
Anti-Muslim Posters Upset GW Community

video under "related items", no mention Ahmed Abdel Wahab or admission of guilt.

35 abolitionist  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:23:34am

Satire? SATIRE? But there is no fun in islam. /Ayatollah Khomeini

36 blangwort  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:23:45am

Like so many media reporters, they latch on to the story first before looking to see what might be behind it. I think the perpetrators knew this would happen. Now we have blaring headlines of something they made up as "satire."

Hell, even their own won't know the difference. How long before we see some seething riots in France or Pakistan?

Idiots. I'll bet some of their own will die seething because of this. Some ROP isn't it?

37 Bill Amos  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:24:35am
GW Hatchet has a photo of the confessed hoaxer today arguing with GW YAF president;

Student Ahmed Abdel Wahab (center left) argues with Sergio Gor (far left), president of the GW Young America's Foundation, whose group was named on the anti-Muslim posters hung around campus Monday morning.

It also has the poster that was put up

[Link: files.gwhatchet.com...]

38 Terp Mole  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:25:00am

The leftist Campus Anti-War Network (CAN) defends the "satire" in today's GW Hatchet;

Lara Nasri, a graduate student and a member of the Campus Anti-War Network, said the video listed on the poster, "The Power of Nightmares," was a documentary questioning the West's fear of terrorist networks.

"It was completely satirical and overblown," Nasri said. "It was the antithesis of racism."

Gor disagreed with Nasri.

"This is not satirical," said Sergio Gor. "It is hatred."

39 Dianna  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:26:07am

Satire?

Then let them pay the costs for campus security's actions, and issue a public apology.

40 Randman  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:26:09am

help, help, I'm being repressed.

Ron Paul would put an end to things like this. :)

41 Poitiers-Lepanto  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:26:15am

That is satire ?
Maybe even what is said every Friday in nearly all the mosques around the world is satire !
Death to America !
Death to Israel !

Just satire, all satire, all is fun and well and islam is a religion of peace.

42 Ziggy  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:28:00am

re: #31 chinesearithmetic

Pandering Press Pimps Pity Party, Pure Poseurs

Positively Pretentious, Preposterous, Putrid, that Pusillanimous Post-pubescent Puke

43 Dianna  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:28:22am

re: #19 pingjockey

An exact analogy.

44 forrest  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:29:02am

Taking on someone else's identity in order to make them look bad is slanderous, or in this case, it's libelous because it's in print. At the very least, the students responsible should be expelled.

45 Ojoe  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:29:14am

At this point I want to join the Trappists and listen to silence.

46 egregory  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:29:27am

Media just accepts the story. Isn't it odd the media, which professes a desire for equal rights for women, homosexuals, free speech, etc. would ally itself with a movement that is the exact ANTITHESIS of these professed values? The only common denominator in the media's logic is their anti-Americanism.

47 xtraBilly  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:29:38am

Seems these Muslim students are English challenged if they don't know the difference between satire and deception.

48 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:30:02am

These punks sure do know how to play the media.

CAIR has taught them well.

49 opnion  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:30:24am

Satire! Those whacky Muslims, soooooooo funny.
Hey, here the one about the Imaam & the camel?

50 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:30:45am

A) He was hoped people would really attribute the posters to Young Americans or
B) He knew people would recognize it as satire, coming from the opponents of Young Americans.

Either way, this doesn't excuse him.
Satire:

a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or scorn

By his own admission, he is accusing the Young Americans of a vice or folly, in this case bigotry. Libel, slander, I'll leave that to the lawyers, but that's actionable, IMHO.

51 filetandrelease  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:31:06am

Hmmmm, I seem to remember another contrived muslim seething moment. It had something to with mohammad cartoons not being insensitive enough, so lets throw in a couple of our own that really make the point.

The teachings of islam certainly are.....interesting.

52 Ziggy  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:31:06am

I can't wait to see the MSM coverage of Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week. I'll bet there are numerous mentions of the flier with not one mention of the hoax satire.

53 gibsonz  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:31:13am

Islam is such a tolerant and peaceful religion...it is the "John Edwards" of religion...a BIG CROCK of BULLSHIT..!

54 GhostMaker  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:31:35am

Satire as a writing and art form has taken quite a beating since Swift's Modest Proposal. I really wish people would figure out that you should be able to discern that it's satire from reading what's written. So either people are entirely too offendable, or entirely too gullible. Neither speaks well of people.

55 Diamond Bullet  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:31:48am

I think the moonbats just proved the point of the entire awareness week.

56 Sponge  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:32:53am

Wait a minute. They can release this in the name of satire, but one cartoonist releases one cartoon that 99% of the muslham world never actually sees, and THAT starts WWIII.

/I don't get it........

57 MadJadBad  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:33:21am

I'll reluctantly go with the satire explanation only because of the "Conservativo-Fascism Awareness" crack. It's just really, really bad satire reported with really, really bad reporting.

58 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:33:33am

Wish they had gotten the satire about the Mo cartoons.

59 bulwrk  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:33:48am

and “peg-leg for smuggling children and heroin.”


wtf
I wonder how that works

60 Sponge  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:34:12am

re: #49 opnion

Satire! Those whacky Muslims, soooooooo funny.
Hey, here the one about the Imaam & the camel?


The newborn was the worlds first imaamel?

61 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:34:15am

Was anyone able to register for the debate from the previous thread? I get a "sold out" (?) notice for an on-line debate.

62 rappmandu  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:34:28am

I hope Mr. Gor and YAF reference this little stunt in discussions during the upcoming Islamofascism Awareness Week. Link it to al-Qaeda and other Islamofascist instruction manuals on how to stifle dissent via false-flag attacks, the phony "after the fact" it-was-just-satire defense ploy (such as the black muslim intimidation interviews), etc.

63 J.S.  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:34:50am

And on the LGF homepage we find the Pelosi pic of her in hijab -- now that's satire.

64 Terp Mole  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:35:00am

CAN's apparent participation in this hoax offers textbook evidence of the Unholy Alliance between Islamo-fascism and American Leftists;

The Campus Antiwar Network (CAN) is at the forefront of the counter-recruiting movement on college campuses across America. CAN represents a new breed of anti-U.S., anti-Israel activist organizations since it operates independent of major anti-war groups like International ANSWER and UFPJ. CAN is run directly by college students and has organized a comprehensive counter-recruitment campaign that focuses on in-your-face tactics including threatening and verbally harassing recruiters and chasing them off campuses.

This is the same network responsibility for the infamous Santa Cruz recruiter thuggery.

65 EC Marm  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:35:38am

At the bottom of the poster in what I would estimate to be at least 24 point type it says:
"P.S. Seriously"
Which would indicate satire, IMHO.

66 basquegirl  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:36:03am

It was satire.

Regards,
That dude at Texas A&M who belittled the Jewish student

67 commander_vimes  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:36:11am

re: #59 bulwrk

and “peg-leg for smuggling children and heroin.”


wtf
I wonder how that works

The secret is in the feet-us

68 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:36:27am

re: #60 Sponge

re: #49 opnion


Satire! Those whacky Muslims, soooooooo funny.
Hey, here the one about the Imaam & the camel?

The newborn was the worlds first imaamel?

LOL!

69 looking closely  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:37:04am

You know, if these Muslims want to engender hatred and fear of Islam (ie "Islamophobia"), this kind of stunt is an awfully good way to go about it.

70 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:37:09am

re: #38 Terp Mole

The leftist Campus Anti-War Network (CAN) defends the "satire" in today's GW Hatchet;

Lara Nasri, a graduate student and a member of the Campus Anti-War Network, said the video listed on the poster, "The Power of Nightmares," was a documentary questioning the West's fear of terrorist networks.
"It was completely satirical and overblown," Nasri said. "It was the antithesis of racism."

Gor disagreed with Nasri.

"This is not satirical," said Sergio Gor. "It is hatred."

Remember, its impossible for any action taken against whites to be considered racist or hateful. Its merely payback for centuries of white imperialist hegemony over the colored people of the world.*

*an arguement actually used by a college student I was talking to.

71 forrest  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:37:22am

#63 J.S.,

I guess the Pelosi picture would qualify as self-satire maybe? Or just idiocy on her part.

72 rappmandu  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:39:10am

Also, it should be noted that, if this stunt was indeed satire (for argument's sake), the posters are therefore not "anti-muslim."

Quite obviously, the satirical posters, via false attribution to YAF, are anti anti-Islamofascist.

IOW, pro-Islamofascist...and obviously so.

73 debutaunt  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:39:32am

Unfunny satire is perfectly fine, it seems. re: #35 abolitionist

74 EtNorskTroll  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:39:45am

OOOOOOOOOOOoooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

Satire!

Why is it that the adherents of Islam get a pass for terrible things that they do if they simply claim it was "Satire"...

...and everyone else gets ripped to shreds?

?

Can anyone answer me this?

~ENT

75 Sponge  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:39:56am

re: #68 MandyManners

I'm glad someone else laffed at that.......I almost fell out of my chair when I typed it... 8^)

76 Pass The Moonbaticide  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:40:34am
students of different faiths will be gathering this week for a community meal with Muslims during Ramadan

I trust a similar meal will be held when Lent concludes.
Why do I think this will be unlikely ? I must be 'racist' .

77 Thanos  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:40:39am

This is just the build-up folks, in twenty years they will be marching in Selma again for Muslim Sharia rights...

78 looking closely  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:40:52am

How "satirical" would this very same Muslim group find it, if, say, the 12 cartoons of infamy (most of which actually WERE satirical in the classic sense) were posted everywhere all over campus?

Think they'd be yelling "hate crime"?

79 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:41:06am

If the media that reported this fraud has any shred of integrity, they'll correct the misinformation they promulgated forthwith.

Of course, that will likely never happen.

80 EC Marm  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:41:26am

re: #72 rappmandu
You got it. A little convoluted to get to that point, but exactly right. The press got it dead wrong.

81 uptight  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:41:29am

The left and the Islamists know that we are engaged in a fight against evil misogynist, homophobic, racist, fascist imperialism.

They know we hold the moral high ground, so the only defense they can muster is to muddy the waters by branding us "racists".

Beyond our disdain for barbarity and the doctrine that inspires it, they have no grounds for this accusation and, as simply opposing a religion doesn't count as bigotry or racism, they have to invent stuff.

Now this desperate defamation would be fine if the media highlighted it, but the media are not on the side of good. They are on the side of their own fears, so the fact that this poster was a fabricated smear is missed out of every newspaper and a nrave conference against fascism is effectively branded "racist".

In the meantime, Islamofascism continues to thrive. Continues to oppress, murder and invade and brutalise.

82 xtraBilly  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:41:46am

GWU President Steven Knapp:

... students of different faiths will be gathering this week for a community meal with Muslims during Ramadan. “This event speaks to our university’s commitment to global cultural understanding and respect.”

This guy's an idiot.

83 EtNorskTroll  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:41:59am

re: #58 JammieWearingFool

Wish they had gotten the satire about the Mo cartoons.

No, no, no....

You see, only adherents of Isslime can play the "satire" card, Jammie.

You're an infidel.

You don't get those kinds of privileges.

~ENT

84 Skigwy  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:42:32am

Is a satirical hate-crime still a hate crime? (is hate-crime hyphenated?)

Alternatively, while the posters were 'fake', yet the content's accurate, then what? ...waiting to hear back from Dan Rather.

85 uptight  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:42:43am

once again - if anyone missed this link that was posted earlier, it shows a photo of the perpetrator and lays bare these Islamists plans.

86 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:43:59am

They're cute when they try to be clever. Conservativo-Fascism! BURN!

I'd turn it on its head and print a "satirical" response featuring several of the "best" photos from Dar-al-Islam: Islamic rage boy, some screencaps from Hamas TV, maybe a few pictures of kids with Jihad gear... You could make an entire collage of death cult imagery without any trouble.

On the other hand, maybe the Palestinian bomb baby photo with an appropriate caption and a URL for a page of links to news stories would be enough.

87 dahozho  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:44:05am

Wahab's demeanor in the interview says most of it-- not upset, but comparing what was on that poster and saying the content of the Islamo-Facism week equals what was in the poster. He also states the posters WERE satire-- not "might be" satire. Someone is trying to derail the Young Americans' Club and the Islamo-Facism Awareness Week the club is sponsoring.

GW being what it is, I doubt those responsible will be effectively dealt with. However, I do worry that non-RoP views and event will be further muted and have a more difficult time gaining approval....

88 Sponge  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:44:06am

re: #79 JammieWearingFool

When something like that actually happens, we will have to look for the rip in the space/time continuum that brought about a parallel dimension overlap.

89 rappmandu  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:44:10am

How about a little return fsatire.

YAF can refer to the false-flag posters as "pro-Islamofascist" posters.

/after all, it's just satire

90 Spiny Norman  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:44:11am

re: #45 Ojoe

At this point I want to join the Trappists and listen to silence.

And brew wonderful ale...

91 Iron Fist  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:44:34am

re: #51 filetandrelease,

Especially the rape, kill, pillage, and burn commandments.

Interesting.

92 bulwrk  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:44:52am

They must have a Dan Rather school of journalism at GWU.

93 Dianna  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:45:18am

re: #70 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I've heard that a few times. If you respond with a forthright, "Nonsense!", what sort of response do you get?

Usually, there's a great deal of flustered sputtering; mostly, they don't even understand how to turn it back, and ask why I think that.

94 jcm  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:45:28am

re: #68 MandyManners

Mandy new hatchling today.
Stan-the man.

95 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:45:29am
96 tommygum  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:45:31am

re: #63 J.S.

That qualifies as a disturbing image.

97 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:46:01am

re: #55 Diamond Bullet

I think the moonbats just proved the point of the entire awareness week.

To be fair, the week is about making people aware that there are folks actively working towards our death or enslavement.

Our garden-variety LLL just want to lie about us and call us bigots, or evil in some way. If that's all the jihad had in mind, I could live with it. Sticks and stones and all that.

Of course, the leftists are enabling the jihad, working with them and for them. And they have their own goals of socialism, which enslaves as well.

98 dahozho  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:48:03am

re: #90 Spiny Norman

Yes, Trappists & Belgian monks brew the BEST Beers!

99 uptight  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:48:48am

from GWHatchet

(Student Association) Executive Vice President Brand Kroeger,...said GW administrators should take serious action against any students involved with creating and or hanging the posters....Kroeger said, "I would support expulsion. These acts are completely heinous."

I bet they won't support expulsion now they know it was Muslims hanging the posters to denigrate conservatives (rather than the other way round)

100 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:49:14am

I hadn't seen the image yet.

Interesting that for a representative "Muslim" they choose what looks to be a member of Saudi royalty.

Everybody knows that Saudi royalty only sponsors the jihad. The AK-carrying and heroin-smuggling they leave to the poor, stupid, and angry. They're too busy with prostitution in its various forms, to fight themselves.

101 jcm  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:49:16am

re: #90 Spiny Norman

re: #45 Ojoe

At this point I want to join the Trappists and listen to silence.

And brew wonderful ale...

There is a branch of Trappist who get to say two words every ten years. Fellow joins at the end of the first decade he goes to the head monk and says, "food cold." Ten years later his words are, "bed hard." The end of the third decade he tell the head monk, "I quit." Head monk responds, "I am not surprised, you've done nothing but complain since you got here."

And Trappist is a great brew.

102 J.S.  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:49:42am

re: #96 tommygum

Or a pictorial example of human folly which should be held up for public ridicule and scorn....

103 BeEtLjOoZ  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:49:50am

Yay! Thanks for opening up registration! Just got registered on Michelle Malkin's blog a couple of days ago after waiting a long long time. Anyway, thanks again!

104 The ET  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:50:00am

Well, I am officially a baby green lizard.... in the daylight!

105 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:50:03am

On third thought, maybe the best response to this silliness would be to put up a poster with some actual quotes from the Koran.

106 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:50:32am

re: #75 Sponge

re: #68 MandyManners

I'm glad someone else laffed at that.......I almost fell out of my chair when I typed it... 8^)

Would this be considered satire?

NOT SAFE FOR WORK/SMALL CHILDREN/EASILY OFFENDED.

107 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:50:41am

re: #98 dahozho

They were talking about said ale and said monks on Modern Marvels this week. The subject was cheese. Since when is cheese a modern marvel? It's not like they were even talking about new innovations in cheese making. More just a history of cheese.

108 xtraBilly  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:50:49am

These GWU students are a gullible lot.

109 EC Marm  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:50:54am

re: #104 The ET
Go home.

P.S. Seriously, welcome!

110 Spiny Norman  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:51:03am

re: #79 JammieWearingFool

If the media that reported this fraud has any shred of integrity, they'll correct the misinformation they promulgated forthwith.

Of course, that will likely never happen.

This satire lie fits the Narrative™ so perfectly, they'll leave it uncorrected because they soooo want to believe it.

111 Terp Mole  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:51:25am

What this situation desperately needs is Protest Warrior satire canvassing of GW Campus.

112 Sponge  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:52:12am

re: #106 MandyManners

No, that's an ap photo.......

113 rappmandu  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:53:29am

Now, if YAF put up a "How to Spot a GWU Dhimmi Moonbat" poster, that would be satire.

-peace scarf
-che shirt
-chomsky work carried cover-side out
-chimpeach bumper sticker on turbo-saab
-you get the idea...

114 opnion  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:53:41am

re: #99 uptight

from GWHatchet


(Student Association) Executive Vice President Brand Kroeger,...said GW administrators should take serious action against any students involved with creating and or hanging the posters....Kroeger said, "I would support expulsion. These acts are completely heinous."

I bet they won't support expulsion now they know it was Muslims hanging the posters to denigrate conservatives (rather than the other way round)

I would love to hear that kid back peddal now that it is known that the perps are Muslim.
I will bet that it would be so much inverted logic that it would me time for aspirin.

115 cornismagorniss  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:54:01am

In all fairness, I DO know Moslems with a sense of humor...

116 tommygum  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:54:03am

re: #105 Pawn of the Oppressor

TRUE SATIRE!

117 Tumulus11  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:54:33am
'There is no humor in Islam.'
// Ayatollah Khomeini
118 cagney  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:55:00am

Another case of political correctness gone made here in UK.

119 Dianna  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:55:31am

re: #99 uptight

Let's feel free to quote that back at them, shall we, and ask why the double standard?

120 cagney  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:55:33am

re: #118 cagney

PIMF

...gone mad...

121 Sponge  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:55:37am

re: #115 cornismagorniss

Then they are not true 'allah(am) fearing' muslhams.

122 CLLRusso  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:55:47am

Satire my foot. These people are on a campaign to keep their poor-little- put-upon selves in the news. Even this way they are the victims. If you notice, everything they allege must certainly be a "hate crime". And gee, I can't stand them so maybe they are right!

But hate is far to strong a word.

123 Terp Mole  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:56:53am
re: #111 Terp Mole What this situation desperately needs is Protest Warrior satire canvassing of GW Campus.

... or better yet some ZombieTime extreme satire.

... a personal favorite.

124 gibsonz  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:57:13am

I wonder...did any of Mohammad`s (piss and dung be upon him) wives run for prophet once his term was up,or is this a fairly new phenomenon?

125 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:57:54am

re: #93 Dianna

re: #70 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

I've heard that a few times. If you respond with a forthright, "Nonsense!", what sort of response do you get?

Usually, there's a great deal of flustered sputtering; mostly, they don't even understand how to turn it back, and ask why I think that.

Since I'm a white guy, I usually get the "Well of course, you wouldn't understand".

126 realwest  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:57:58am

I hate to admit this, but I'm confused. Was this put up by the YAF or not? And if not, why don't the YAF sue whomever is responsible for slander/defamation?
I'm also getting a severe headache cause I took some meds a little while ago and all this
information is leaving me behind.
SO someone please help me out here: did the YAF put these up or not?

127 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:58:08am
Kroeger said, "I would support expulsion. These acts are completely heinous."

Vegas oddsmakers are now giving 0 to 1,000,000,000 odds on the culprit being expelled, now that it is clear who he is.

128 madisonsfriend  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:58:58am

GWU and American university have quite a few wealthy students from the ME- and I don't mean Israel.

129 looking closely  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:59:00am

To be clear, this isn't "satire"; its a deliberate smear.

The author(s) of this poster are explicitly accusing the GWU Young America's Foundation of being haters/racists.

130 rappmandu  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 10:59:09am

So, it's OK to shout "FIRE!" in a crowded theater, if you claim it was satire?

131 madisonsfriend  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:00:17am

re: #126 realwest


NO, a muslim student admitted doing it as "satire". Be careful of med related headaches. Check your blood pressure- and call your doctor

132 Dianna  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:00:30am

re: #125 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

After the Duke Hoax, you have better grounds.

Either there is one standard, or there is none. Either there is equal justice, or there is none.

Metanarratives are a dubious construct on which to base one's life and hope for daily bread.

133 EC Marm  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:00:35am

re: #126 realwest
Hey Real. See #72 for the answer. It's not going to help your headache, though. It's a little twisted, and DEFINITELY misreported.

134 JamesTKirk  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:00:42am

re: #41 Poitiers-Lepanto

...Maybe even what is said every Friday in nearly all the mosques around the world is satire! Death to America! Death to Israel!

They're being translated out of context. They're actually saying "Satire to America! Satire to Israel!"

135 Dianna  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:01:13am

re: #126 realwest

No, the YAF had nothing to do with the posters.

136 Catttt  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:01:26am

I notice the story that ran the perp's pic (he's the guy with the smirk and the orange t-shirt) didn't mention him in the actual article.

137 Terp Mole  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:01:32am

re: #126 realwest No, Ahmed Abdel Wahab took ownership on Fox5 interview and the Campus Anti-War Network defended it as "satire."

138 realwest  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:01:48am

re: #131 madisonsfriend Thank you. Don't need to call doctor, this always happens when I don't "Nap" for an hour or so after taking the meds - but when I saw this story I just couldn't
"take it laying down"!
Thank you again.

139 dahozho  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:02:32am

re: #126 realwest

No, the YAF did NOT post this crap. The perps still need to be identified (although that shouldn't be too difficult) in order to address any legal action to the right party(ies)...

140 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:02:40am

What an effen joke.

141 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:02:45am

re: #126 realwest

Not by the YAF. By someone trying to paint the YAF as bigots. And they should sue.

142 looking closely  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:03:36am

"They're all a bunch of goat-f@#$ing a@#h#les!"

/satire


//see, it doesn't work

143 rappmandu  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:03:55am

File this under:

The Wolf Who Cried "Boy!"

Pretty soon, the villagers won't come running anymore, which is exactly what the wolf wants.

144 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:04:08am

It reminds me of Morton Downey's backwards airport swatstika.

145 cornismagorniss  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:04:19am

Maybe not, but they're LOTS more fun to party with.

m>re: #121 Sponge

146 xtraBilly  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:04:22am

re: #134 JamesTKirk

re: #41 Poitiers-Lepanto

...Maybe even what is said every Friday in nearly all the mosques around the world is satire! Death to America! Death to Israel!

They're being translated out of context. They're actually saying "Satire to America! Satire to Israel!"

..and Mookie's name isn't Muqtada al-Sadr. It' Muatada al-Satire

147 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:04:52am

Whoever smelt it, dealt it.

148 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:05:06am

Whoever denied it, supplied it.

149 realwest  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:05:25am

re: #135 Diannaand
re: #137 Terp Mole
Thanks to both of you, too. Going to sleep now, but wonder if the YAF is going to take any action - this isn't satire at all, it's deliberate slandering of the YAF.
See y'all later.

150 Ward Cleaver  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:05:36am

All the multiple exclamation marks? So cheesy.

151 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:05:43am
152 easy  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:05:47am
“It was completely satirical and overblown,” Nasri said. “It was the antithesis of racism.”


College campi are very nuanced places.

153 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:06:39am
154 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:06:49am

I understand the suicide vest thing and the AK-47 thing, but a

“peg-leg for smuggling children and heroin.”

is something I don't get.

155 WriterMom  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:07:07am

OT: Tech help, puh-lease...

Anyone else not able to search LGF? I am logged in, click on the calendar and can't pick dates. GA! Anyone? I am using IE 6.0 at work and home.

156 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:07:24am
157 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:07:29am
overblown

Like what, when a suicide vest explodes?

158 loppyd  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:07:30am

re: #147 Ben Hur

Whoever smelt it, dealt it.


I am rubber and you are glue...

159 Thanos  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:07:44am

Here's what I wrote about this:

In a transparent attempt to create controversy and a victim group where none really exists Little Green Footballs has a post about muslim students planting anti-muslim racist flyers at George Washington University.

When they got caught? — It was “satire” they say... yeah... That’s the story. Satire.

This is an attempt to smear a group that is speaking out about terrorism and the minority of muslims terrorists who give muslims a bad image. The perpetrators of this hoax poster want to say that the 0.005% of dimwits in the US who are prone to stereotyping are the rule, not the exception.

The Muslim Student Association should be aiding and standing with Young America’s Foundation, not attacking them. The MSA wants to continue its policy that terror doesn’t exist, that any attempts to speak out about it are an attack on all muslims. The terror groups love this kind of support, and count on having disproportionate power over all muslims and the muslim image through use of terror. In the end however it’s Muslims themselves who suffer the worst from terror and terrorists, as you can see here.


No need to hit the post itself, it just trackbacks to here and Sunday's Grim Muslim Milestone post.

160 cornismagorniss  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:07:59am

Very grateful to be Hatched. Just consider me another rude beast slouching towards Bethlehem to be born.

161 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:08:11am

The bottom line is this is a clever ploy to get the Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week shut down. The Muslims are so much better at this propaganda game then we westerners are.

162 EC Marm  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:08:33am

re: #147 Ben Hur

Whoever smelt it, dealt it.


Lol! That really should be the title of this thread.

163 Thanos  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:08:41am

re: #159 Thanos

Ahh crap, bad syntax.. need to edit that grrrf. multitasking.

164 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:09:28am

re: #161 Just_A_Grunt

The bottom line is this is a clever ploy to get the Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week shut down. The Muslims are so much better at this propaganda game then we westerners are.

On the flip side, they've actually provided a pretty good example of how underhanded they can be.

165 Sponge  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:09:43am

re: #159 Thanos

Can you go post that at GWU?

166 Throbert McGee  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:09:47am
"This is not satirical," said Sergio Gor. "It is hatred."

Oh, Mary, please.

A ham-fisted caricature of conservatives? Sure. But an expression of "hatred" towards conservatives?

Here's a suggestion for Mr. Gor: Why don't you "lead by example" by not speaking like a fuckin' drama queen?

167 rappmandu  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:09:56am
168 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:10:04am

Suicide vests and hatred of women.

Is that a lie?

169 descolada9  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:10:09am

Sick and disgusting, to say the least.

170 Thanos  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:11:00am

Corrected copy:

In a transparent attempt to create controversy and a victim group where none really exists muslim students planted anti-muslim racist flyers at George Washington University. Little Green Footballs has a post about it, and when they got caught. — It was “satire” they say... yeah... That’s the story. Satire.

This is an attempt to smear a group that is speaking out about terrorism and the minority of muslims terrorists who give muslims a bad image. The perpetrators of this hoax poster want to say that the 0.005% of dimwits in the US who are prone to stereotyping are the rule, not the exception.

The Muslim Student Association should be aiding and standing with Young America’s Foundation, not attacking them. The MSA wants to continue its policy that terror doesn’t exist, that any attempts to speak out about it are an attack on all muslims. The terror groups love this kind of support, and count on having disproportionate power over all muslims and the muslim image through use of terror. In the end however it’s Muslims themselves who suffer the worst from terror and terrorists, as you can see here.

171 Dianna  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:11:28am

re: #151 ploome hineni

Ploome, you're not singing kumbayah as a satire, are you?

(that was a joke)

172 EC Marm  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:11:35am

re: #153 ploome hineni

anyone hear from CTP? hows he doing?


You mean after his Lasik surgery yesterday? I think I saw a message from him this morning:
Gf Wberine! O csn dee ginw.

/ j/k satire

173 dahozho  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:12:07am

re: #164 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Sadly, the example will only be apparent to those who are not blinded by the assumed "victim" position of these people... ie, NOT the people who need a wake-up call

174 Pawn of the Oppressor  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:13:05am

re: #161 Just_A_Grunt

The bottom line is this is a clever ploy to get the Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week shut down. The Muslims are so much better at this propaganda game then we westerners are.

I don't think "better", it's just that the vast majority of mass media is on their side, no matter what they do.

175 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:13:37am

re: #172 EC Marm

re: #153 ploome hineni


anyone hear from CTP? hows he doing?

You mean after his Lasik surgery yesterday? I think I saw a message from him this morning:
Gf Wberine! O csn dee ginw.

/ j/k satire

His eyes are nekkid.

176 Dianna  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:13:46am

re: #160 cornismagorniss

Rough beast, please!

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Now slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

177 bulwrk  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:13:49am

This should be viewed as an attempt to insight violence against the YAF thus making it a hate crime.

178 Just_A_Grunt  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:13:56am

I wonder how long before this piece of "satire" appears in the ME and becomes the subject of speeches in the mosques on Friday, just in time to celebrate the end of Ramadan, with the associated seething and outrage in the Muslim street?

179 Dianna  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:14:49am

re: #166 Throbert McGee

Good to see you!

I hope you're doing well?

180 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:15:08am

suicide bombings, beheadings, arson, stoning, executions of homosexuals and apostates are all PERFORMACE ART.

181 plutosdad  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:15:36am

So here, just as in the MidEast, OTHER MUSLIMS are the first target of attacks by the extreme ones. The girl who said "this is the first time I've felt attacked" really tells you something I think should be paid more attention to. White people didn't make her feel attacked, others and on campus don't make her feel that way, but hate filled extreme Muslims made her feel under attack for the first time in her life in the US. In one way it fills me with pride that "my people" didn't make her feel that way, in another way it makes me roll my eyes.

182 Killgore Trout  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:15:38am

Manufactured seething.

183 MandyManners  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:15:43am

Welcome, hatchilngs!

184 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:16:09am

The Israelis stopped 7 Palestinian theatre productions over the holiday.

185 xtraBilly  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:17:44am

re: #178 Just_A_Grunt

I wonder how long before this piece of "satire" appears in the ME and becomes the subject of speeches in the mosques on Friday, just in time to celebrate the end of Ramadan, with the associated seething and outrage in the Muslim street?

Shouldn't take too long at all since it's already made the Washington Post.

186 easy  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:17:48am

re: #156 ploome hineni

re: #152 easy


“It was completely satirical and overblown,” Nasri said. “It was the antithesis of racism.”

College campi are very nuanced places.

the muslims owe us all an apology


I think everyone should just apologize to everyone else. Only way to be sure.

187 Dianna  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:17:50am

re: #177 bulwrk

This should be viewed as an attempt to insight violence against the YAF thus making it a hate crime.

That is a very interesting mis-spelling. It does no harm to the sense (that is, I knew you meant "incite"), but it adds extra depth.

188 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:17:51am

re: #181 plutosdad

The girl who said "this is the first time I've felt attacked" really tells you something I think should be paid more attention to.

Good point.

So much for the raging backlash we hear is reaching epic proportions.

189 Catttt  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:18:04am

Example of satire:

Fruit Of Islam Cause Man To Soil Fruit Of Looms (Onion Story)
New Circle Added to Hell (Onion graphic)

Example of a successful satirist: Aristophanes.

Example of not satire: the subject of this thread.
I think the guy intended this to be satire - he just wasn't clever or funny, so it came off looking like an attempt at forgery to get this conservative group into hot water.

190 jcm  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:18:49am

re: #184 Ben Hur

The Israelis stopped 7 Palestinian theatre productions over the holiday.

Now THAT'S satire.

191 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:18:54am

More art:

Palestinians: Allah, Kill Americans

The Palestinian Authority (Fatah) daily newspaper’s political cartoon today illustrated a prayer for the killing of Americans. A Muslim is shown kneeling in prayer facing a US B-2 Stealth Bomber. The words of his prayer are encased in missiles aimed at Americans:

"Allah, scatter them!”
“And turn their wives into widows!”
“And turn their children into orphans!”
“And give us victory over them!”

Satire.

192 commander_vimes  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:19:52am

So, is Hillary's new 401K plan a satire of Bush's privatization? ;-)

193 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:20:25am

Egypt signs treaty with NATO

That ain't satire.

That's stupid.

BENCHMARK EGYPTIAN AID!

194 rappmandu  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:21:11am

Dear Mrs. Pelosi,

I'd just like to say that your comment about torture was excellent satire.

/

195 bulwrk  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:21:39am

re: #187 Dianna

yikes,thank you

:)

196 xtraBilly  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:22:01am

re: #192 commander_vimes

So, is Hillary's new 401K plan a satire of Bush's privatization? ;-)

and Hillary's choosing Sandy Berger as Security advisor is a satire of the vetting process.

197 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:22:35am

Report: Hamas and Fatah killed civilians, performed executions

In a new report, the Palestinian Center for Human Rights (PCHR) said 161 Palestinians, of whom 41 were civilians, were killed during fighting between June 7 and June 14 in which Hamas Islamists took control of the territory from secular Fatah.

"The two sides perpetrated grave breaches of the provisions of international law concerning internal armed conflicts, including extra-judicial and willful killings and shooting at combatants and civilians after capturing them," The PCHR said.

Balance.

Nothing trumps sharia. International law is haram.

198 dahozho  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:24:27am

re: #197 Ben Hur

"performed executions" RoP performance art!

199 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:25:05am
200 rappmandu  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:25:44am

lgf: putting the ire in satire

201 xtraBilly  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:28:27am

Maybe GWU could hold an International Satire Week.

202 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:29:25am

Saudi funded attempts at satire suck.

203 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:29:44am

re: #199 buzzsawmonkey

Good point.

204 Kevin Shook  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:30:16am

This was nothing but another tatic of the Muslim 5th Column to intimidate us. I suggest that some conservative group put up posters advertising MSA with pictures of Daniel Pearl and Nicholas Berg with a headline of "Islam is PEACE." Or maybe a picture of Mohamed in bed with a nine year old girl.

205 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:30:47am

I guess there is no comedy in the Muslim world.

Good.

I don't need to rent the flic.

206 Sponge  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:30:54am

re: #202 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Saudi funded attempts at satire suck.

Sounds like a good title for a weekly funny pages cartoon.......

saudi suck

207 Terp Mole  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:31:04am

Elsewhere in wacademia, Ivory Tower denisons are in a high dungeon @ Inside Higher Ed;

Are You Ready for ‘Islamo-Fascism Week’?

...The in-your-face approach of publicity for the events (not to mention some of the speakers) is already setting off campus debates over whether the campaign being orchestrated is about informing students or intimidating Muslim students and selected targets of the right (such as women’s studies programs).

Already charges are flying from organizers about posters being torn down and colleges blocking access for events. And critics are firing back, questioning the motives of the efforts...

The comments thread has the usual crowd mewling.

208 looking closely  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:32:17am

re: #197 Ben Hur

Report: Hamas and Fatah killed civilians, performed executions

In a new report, the Palestinian Center for Human Rights (PCHR) said 161 Palestinians, of whom 41 were civilians, were killed during fighting between June 7 and June 14 in which Hamas Islamists took control of the territory from secular Fatah.

"The two sides perpetrated grave breaches of the provisions of international law concerning internal armed conflicts, including extra-judicial and willful killings and shooting at combatants and civilians after capturing them," The PCHR said.

Balance.

Nothing trumps sharia. International law is haram.

It bears repeating:

More Palestinians are killed by other Palestinians than by Israelis.

By simple extrapolation, Palestinians are more of a threat to themselves than Israel is a threat to them.

209 wanumba  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:32:32am

Seems to be the equivalent cover presented by the turds who boasted they had voted 5 times for Al Gore, then when informed that was an illegal act, they claimed it was "just testing the system to make sure it worked."

An act of deliberate defamation? A fraud designed to malign a specific group? Isn't the law designed to protect people and groups from just such acts of pure maliciousness?

210 Ben Hur  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:33:55am

Wow, imagine of some young genius saw that poster, didn't know it was "satire" (which I'm sure 99% of the (Muslim) student body still doesn't beleive it was) and suddenly got a severe case of Sudden Jihadi Syndrome.

It could've been the straw that broke the camel's back.

211 LC LaWedgie  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:34:09am

Recommending The Power of Nightmares: Once you've become so olbermated in your thought process to equivocate Sayyid Qutb and Paul Wolfowitz, everything is satire.

212 cygnus  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:34:42am

re: #198 dahozho

re: #197 Ben Hur

"performed executions" RoP performance art!

How does one rehearse for a performed execution? With mannequins?

213 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:35:34am
214 Talkinkamel  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:38:32am

"Satire" is a 20th Century concept (and all-purpose excuse).

The 21st Century should retire it. Reality has gone beyond satire, now.

215 dahozho  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:41:37am

re: #208 looking closely

re: #197 Ben Hur


Report: Hamas and Fatah killed civilians, performed executions

In a new report, the Palestinian Center for Human Rights (PCHR) said 161 Palestinians, of whom 41 were civilians, were killed during fighting between June 7 and June 14 in which Hamas Islamists took control of the territory from secular Fatah.

"The two sides perpetrated grave breaches of the provisions of international law concerning internal armed conflicts, including extra-judicial and willful killings and shooting at combatants and civilians after capturing them," The PCHR said.


Balance.

Nothing trumps sharia. International law is haram.


It bears repeating:

More Palestinians are killed by other Palestinians than by Israelis.

By simple extrapolation, Palestinians are more of a threat to themselves than Israel is a threat to them.

Proving once again that everything comes back on you. You build an educational system on hate and violence, and guaranteed, that system will turn on its community. The 'graduates' know no other way to resolve life's little obstacles and conflicts, other than hate and violence.

216 Beagle  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:41:54am

Good thing there was an admission of the fake 'hate crime' before GWU put all its non-Muslim students into Room 101 for some doublethink training, da'wa, or sensitivity training by a sharia mufti from Saudi Arabia.

217 xtraBilly  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:43:09am

Next time Ahmed use the forward slash , / / , and smiley face ;) to indicate you message of hate is meant as satire.

218 Name The Enemy  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:45:44am

So let me get this straight... the students who hung the posters were Muslim students... and they made it look like it was the GW YAF group that was behind it... and when busted, the muslim students claim it was only satire.

Now, with the Muslim students under the threat of possible expulsion, Muslim apologists will have to defend the free-speech of Muslim students who in fact made fun of... Muslims.

And the MSM reporting will, no doubt, condemn the GW YAF and makee them out to be the bad guys in all of this.

Only in America.

219 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:45:46am

re: #207 Terp Mole

Ah, yes. The YAF is accused of doing the intimidating, but it is the other side that is tearing down the posters, and otherwise attempting to prevent the YAF from being heard.

Student says:

Horowitz’s “obsessive focus” on Arabs and Muslims encouraged the view that people could “with impunity” say anything they want about members of those groups

Uh, guess what sunshine. You CAN say almost anything you want with impunity. Welcome to America.

So sorry. I know you want to live in a society that punishes people for speaking.

220 mabrouk  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:46:27am

New hatchling here! And on an article about my alma mater no less! I graduated in 2004 and then went to law school at a more sane (aka conservative) school.

I'll be interested to see how this thing evolves, particularly because there is a very large Jewish presence at GWU. What always amazed me about that though was that the Jewish population was, on average, more ridiculously leftist than the non-Jewish students.

221 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:47:28am
222 filetandrelease  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:49:51am

re: #91 Iron Fist

Yeah, especially those parts.

"Interesting" was the only word I could come up with that was printable.

223 Trumpeter  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:51:53am

Maybe it was no satire? Perhaps the muslims are wisening up?

224 Lazarus  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:54:13am

"Satire", the new leftist sound for "fraud".

225 CharlyeSarte  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:54:18am

If you catch yourself regularly thinking other people "hate" or "fear" you ... you might be a liberal.

/with apologies to Jeff Foxworthy. ; )

226 Name The Enemy  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 11:55:51am

My guess is now that the perpetrators have been exposed as Muslim students, the MSM will let this story die a quick death. Then, if there is a threat of expulsion, the MSM will be back to defend these students' freedom of speech.

227 filetandrelease  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 12:03:05pm

re: #172 EC Marm


LOL

228 Beagle  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 12:14:41pm

#218 Name the Enemy

Yes, it's a typical MSM misstate the facts, lie, distort, propagandize, and lecture scenario. There's a cartoon view of anyone who's not a leftist Kool Aid drinker and it's just too easy to get them to fall for this stuff over and over. If it was a hot stove they'd be on nubs by now. The fake hate crime deserves some attention as a real social phenomenon.

229 Live4Truth  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 12:25:44pm
Phony 'Satirical' Anti-Muslim Posters Circulated at GWU

What a zoo the university (and the MSM) has become. And the wild animals are in charge. And what do you want to bet that if a conservative group had performed similar "satire" depicting a liberal or Muslim group, then the administration would be crawling all over them.

230 jihadistalert  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 12:27:16pm

Those radicals are so hypocritical. While the conservative students are hoping to have a logical debate about Islam, those who are radical having nothing in their defense. They spout message of hate and terror. In fact, the website

231 Hard Right  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 12:52:32pm
I was just really shocked that this sort of hatred exists on our campus...

Ah yes, you live in a cotton candy bubble where there is nothing but love...

Moron.

232 Silhouette  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 12:57:41pm

re: #231 Hard Right

Except that "this sort" of hatred doesn't exist on their campus. At least not the way they thought.

233 Hard Right  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 1:01:08pm

re: #232 Silhouette

re: #231 Hard Right

Except that "this sort" of hatred doesn't exist on their campus. At least not the way they thought.

True. They think the evil white men are the ones guilty of "hate".

234 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 1:01:33pm
235 Hard Right  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 1:04:52pm

re: #234 ploome hineni

re: #231 Hard Right


I was just really shocked that this sort of hatred exists on our campus...

Ah yes, you live in a cotton candy bubble where there is nothing but love...
Moron.

hatred usually directed At Hillel, Jews and ISrael is ok

but this, THIS is SHOCKING

Exactly. These "victims" are not on the State Designated enemies list.

236 Venezuela lover  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 1:08:31pm

Satire is funny. There is no fun in Islam. Thus, the muslim could not be creating satire with his poster. Thus, he was not a true muslim. Thus it was racism. Thus he should be compensated. Stupid prick.

237 DJM  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 1:10:54pm

Last week it was reported that muslims went on a rampage killing 9 Christians over a cartoon drawn by a muslim.

I wonder how many non-muslims will suffer over this "satire"?

238 khagemann  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 1:12:06pm

ISLAMonline has taken down comments for the story as soon as this real story was being put up.

239 Venezuela lover  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 1:14:59pm

re: #218 Name The Enemy


Now, with the Muslim students under the threat of possible expulsion, Muslim apologists will have to defend the free-speech of Muslim students who in fact made fun of... Muslims.

That is so satirical. Stay tuned for a surprise ending. I don't see how the muslim lawbreakers can get out of this one. Contact the US Immigration Office first.

Should the punishment be 100 lashes or beheading?

240 khagemann  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 1:17:34pm

Looks like they're back up.

241 Sabraguy  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 1:24:28pm

A simple "Muslims are descended from apes and pigs" would have been quite sufficient.

242 the DRUNK report  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 1:24:37pm

very clever.

and very evil............

243 WindHorse  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 1:28:40pm

I found the satire....

(from the article)

“I think something this morning happened. "

The deep well spring from whence all of this bubbles....

244 Merovign  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 1:28:48pm

Notice the similarity of this:

Satirist: This was satire.
Islamist: No it wasn't!
Satirist: Yes, it was, I wrote it.
Islamist: No! No, it was not! LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

to this:

Islamist: We want to destroy Israel.
Leftist: No he doesn't!
Islamist: What do you mean we don't, of course we do!
Leftist: No! No, they don't! LA LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!

No wonder they get along so well.

245 uptight  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 1:57:08pm

re: #167 rappmandu

Remember when the ASU muslim student faked hate crimes against himself.

Satire.

/

add this poster satire and the wonderful, fondly remembered youtube antisemitism satire and we can only conclude that Muslims students are a right bunch of comedians

shame about the impending islamophobia riots

246 J.S.  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 2:54:17pm

I think it's obvious that the poster is not "satiric." there's not a shred of "satire" here.

I've noticed (as have, I suppose, millions of others) that there's a lack of understanding about what constitutes the comedic, the ironic, the satiric in many Islamic/Muslim societies. They just don't seem to "get it." (which can be mildly amusing in itself).

To be comedic, you've got to have the "twist" -- the reversal of expectations. So you get Swift writing in the voice of a "humanitarian" out to save the starving children of Ireland by a "modest proposal" which is to cannibalize them. Now that's satiric. Ditto for Swift's Gulliver's Travels, in which all sorts of everyday expectations are reversed -- thus horses become the "rationalists", humans the "animals", etc., etc. It involves comedic reversals.

With the poster of "We hate Muslims" -- there's nothing funny or satiric; it's just another "Bush is Hitler" routine. It's an exaggeration, hyperbolic, lying and deceitful. Intentionally injurious, but not "funny." (It's humourless, as with much of the Muslim world today...and that is a very sad comment.)

247 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 3:37:35pm
248 PETN Sandwich  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 6:48:54pm

Classic 'False flag' operation and student Ahmed Abdel Wahab explained the poster as ‘satire.’

Which reminds me, classic 'terrorism' is to commit an atrocity so heinous it results in a 'disproportionate' response which makes the offenders appear to be the victims.

249 ksadlosky  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 7:09:30pm

Who else was behind this? No big shock here: Adam Kokesh

250 EE  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 7:30:56pm

A false-flag operation that produced a forgery.

The purpose of this particular false-flag forgery is to lie about what Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week is all about.

The leaders of the jihad revival in the 20th century, Khomeini on the Shiite side, and al-Banna, Maududi, Qutb, and Azzam on the Sunni side, have produced a dangerous ideology of hyper-jihadism, involving jihad to establish an islamofascist empire, and to conquer the world for Sharia.

The false-flag operations for forgery have the purpose of lying about the threat from islamofascism, to make it appear that any educational revelations about islamofascism are not any different from a hateful atttack on all Muslims.

251 EE  Tue, Oct 9, 2007 7:38:20pm

This illustrates that basic tools of the supporters of islamofascism are lying, and deception, and false flag operations, and forgeries.

252 wonkanator  Wed, Oct 10, 2007 9:26:51am

Thanks for letting this hatchling gather with you at the fire of common sense and reason. It's cold and scary in the wastelands of the left where the lunatics run the swamp.

O.T. - GO STEELERS


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