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Al Qaeda Active in New Jersey

Mon, Oct 15, 2007 at 10:48:14 am PDT

This comes as absolutely no surprise. I’ve long noticed that some of the most rabid Islamist trolls who open (short-lived) accounts at LGF, or send me insane hate email, originate in New Jersey—especially around the Paterson area: FBI Monitoring al-Qaida Activity in North Jersey.

NEWARK, N.J. (NorthJersey.com)  — Members of the FBI’s Joint Terrorism Task Force are monitoring a number of north Jersey residents with ties to al-Qaida.

The agents have disrupted their activities and deported several.

Task force director Kevin Cruise tells The Record of Bergen County there are facilitators in the state. Cruise would not describe any case in detail. However, efforts to disrupt Osama bin Laden’s network range from deportation to telling the suspects that they’re being watched.

Cruise tells the newspaper his agents have no information about an imminent attack here.

The task force is conducting more than 400 counterterror investigations.

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1 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:49:26am

I'm surrounded. Send help.

2 coquimbojoe  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:49:37am

Root them out!

3 jcm  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:50:06am

Repeat after me:
Islam is a Religion of Peace.
The War on Terror is a bumper sticker.
Bush is Evil.

Run along good little Dhimmi.
/

4 storagemanager  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:50:18am

They cells everywhere...ready to go...Hiz'ballah also.

5 imploder  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:50:28am

Welcome to Jersey! Will the madness ever end?

6 coquimbojoe  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:50:33am

Wire tapping seems like a good idea now, doesn't it Harry?

7 MattMacD  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:50:35am

Well, at least they're deporting them. Here in England they get given a free house.

8 commander_vimes  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:51:02am

so...is this "active" like a Richard Simmons workout?

9 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:51:17am

And now the ACLU will rush to protect them...

10 jcm  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:51:27am

re: #1 JammieWearingFool

I'm surrounded. Send help.

"We're surrounded - that simplifies our problem!"
Marine Lieutenant General Lewis B. Chesty Puller

11 Mike42  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:51:45am

Like this is a surprise?
(except to the looney lefties, who will immediately either deny it, or work to protect their 'rights')

12 Iron Fist[deleted]  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:51:52am
13 Poitiers-Lepanto  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:52:15am

Welll, give them a state !

14 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:52:19am

On the upside, we have no known Taliban, though I did see some creature at the supermarket earlier which casts that theory into doubt.

15 Pro-Bush Canuck  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:52:29am

New Jersey, Detroit, Montreal, and Mississauga, Ontario are all Islamist hot spots.

16 doppelganglander  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:52:33am

I'm glad I got out of New Jersey, for many reasons.

17 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:53:19am

Time to put Tony Soprano and his boys on the file.

18 AuntAcid  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:53:20am

Time to send in the Jersey Girls.

19 beblebrox  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:53:32am

someone outta send over Vinny the Gooch and Joe Bagadonuts to give them a tour of Jersey from the trunk of a large Caddy. Maybe introduce them to Jimmy Hoffa.

20 imploder  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:54:02am

re: #7 MattMacD

Well, at least they're deporting them. Here in England they get given a free house.

And their share of some dole, I understand.

21 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:54:15am

I covered this in the AM, but it should come as absolutely no surprise at all. North Jersey is in close proxmity to NYC and good mass transit makes for inviting targets and easy navigation around the region.

The detail that caught my attention was that they've been deporting some of those the JTTF has found, suggesting that they were illegal aliens or have overstayed their visas. Nice to see that someone is paying attention to the national security angle of border control/illegal alien problems.

If ICE did its job, the JTTF might have an even more efficient time of tracking down terrorists - or there might be fewer individuals that the JTTF would have to track.

22 Pro-Bush Canuck  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:55:24am

re: #17 Alberta Oil Peon

Hmm. That story arc was never really resolved in the series. I wonder whether those two were really terrorists or not...

Guess we'll never know.

23 Gringo  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:55:44am

Too bad it never seems to occur to the FBI, Homeland Security, etc. to talk to Blogs like lgf when conducting investigations. I honestly believe we (the blogs) know things about what is happening before they do. For example the comment by Charles "I’ve long noticed that some of the most rabid Islamist trolls who open (short-lived) accounts at LGF, or send me insane hate email, originate in New Jersey—especially around the Paterson area."

24 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:55:49am
25 tfc3rid  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:55:52am

Maybe the NY Times will let more people know of the exact locations they are scouting and the methods of eavesdropping...

26 mglazer  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:55:53am

What only took like 6 years to take this seriously, why not just arrest them all, what are they waiting for

27 zombie  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:56:00am

Paterson, eh?

First Allen Ginsburg, and now these jihadis.

Is there anything that city isn't good for?

28 Nevergiveup  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:56:09am

And this is a surprise to whom exactly? Hello out there FBI. Ever hear of RT 80?

29 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:56:16am

re: #19 beblebrox

someone outta send over Vinny the Gooch and Joe Bagadonuts to give them a tour of Jersey from the trunk of a large Caddy. Maybe introduce them to Jimmy Hoffa.


Can we at least upgrade the stereotypes to this century?

/

30 insanity police  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:56:27am

This is bad news.

31 insanity police  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:57:08am

re: #29 JammieWearingFool

fuggettaboutit

32 Pro-Bush Canuck  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:58:17am

re: #30 insanity police

This is bad news.

It's bad, but hardly "news".

The real question is what we're doing about it. In Canada it is far easier to deport a tourist who overstays a visa than it is to deport a known Islamist.

33 beblebrox  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:58:38am

re: #29 JammieWearingFool

re: #19 beblebrox

someone outta send over Vinny the Gooch and Joe Bagadonuts to give them a tour of Jersey from the trunk of a large Caddy. Maybe introduce them to Jimmy Hoffa.


Can we at least upgrade the stereotypes to this century?

/

I know. It's a comedy routine for a few years back on a local radio station here in Pittsburgh. Though I have to admit the Italian side of my family from Philly all do seem to be stereotypes of that sort.

34 sbvft contributor  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:59:01am

I live in South Jersey. Relatively ROP-free compared to the Islamic Republic of North Jersey.

Still hate it here. Taxes/moonbats/rampant corruption. Hope to move to PA within a year or so.

35 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:59:14am

re: #27 zombie

Paterson does have one good redeeming feature.

Other than that, Paterson is a hive of villany and scum that is sorely in need of urban renewal.

36 lawhawk  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 10:59:40am

re: #34 sbvft contributor

You're forgetting the Fort Dix Six from the Cherry Hill area?

37 Nevergiveup  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:00:33am

re: #32 Pro-Bush Canuck

re: #30 insanity police

This is bad news.

It's bad, but hardly "news".

The real question is what we're doing about it. In Canada it is far easier to deport a tourist who overstays a visa than it is to deport a known Islamist.

From what I can gather, it is also much harder for Caribbean baseball players with visa problems to get into Canada than for terrorists.

38 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:00:38am
39 Render  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:01:14am

That part of Joisy is also home turf for some of the more public neo-nazi's in this country.

I'm sure the Islamist's must have felt welcomed when they saw the corn field giant swastika's.

OLD
HOME
WEEK,
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40 insanity police  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:01:23am

re: #32 Pro-Bush Canuck

Ok, fine, it's not "news" to LGf readers.

What are we going to do about it? Hopefully arrest and deport these SOBs.

41 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:01:37am

re: #35 lawhawk

re: #27 zombie

Paterson does have one good redeeming feature.

Other than that, Paterson is a hive of villany and scum that is sorely in need of urban renewal.

IIRC correctly, Mikey Palmice tossed someone off there in Sopranos Season 1.

Very nice spot. I'm not that far from there but it may as well be another planet.

42 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:02:31am

Well, well, the fact that Al-Paterson is Dearbornistan East is news?

-S-

43 sbvft contributor  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:03:37am

re: #36 lawhawk

True dat. (Actually, I live in a town next to Cherry Hole). But, like I said, "relatively ROP-free".

44 jcm  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:03:41am

re: #38 savage_nation

We need to land this jet at Newark and fill it up with these troublemakers.

That thing can fit 853 people in it!

All when need is 1.5% of load.

45 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:04:03am

One reason jihadis feel so safe here is we're so welcoming to illegals.

46 DistantThunder  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:04:35am

We're originally from California from the San Jose area. but we moved to South Jersey 5 years ago.

So many east coast stereotypes are true. We still haven't figured out why some people are so hostile, and negative just as a baseline personality trait.

On the other hand, in our quiet suburb we've met some lovely kind,d ecent people. Fort Dix is about 10 miles north of us, and we're in between two nuclear reactors. In the event of some great distaster or emergency we have nowhere to evecuate to other than Philly, murder capitol of the US.

We are also astounded by the corruption - and the lame brain union members that continue to re-elect the same political thugs.

47 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:06:43am

Is that one more thing people will blame Jersey for? Toxic waste, toxic avenger... paying to leave the state... OOOH! There's the solution! Up the tolls for leaving the state until only terrorists can afford them then arrest them as they leave...

48 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:07:20am

re: #23 Gringo

I think you'd be surprised.

49 Bobbo  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:08:30am

Isn't this where they found the rocket launcher just under the flight path of the airport a month or so ago?

Thought so. What does someone always write here...Move along folks. Nothing to see here. Move along...(go back to sleep)

50 coquimbojoe  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:09:05am

re: #12 Iron Fist

re: #6 coquimbojoe,

Would you violate a terrorist's right to call his al Qaeda Den Mother in Karachi? You must not be a Democrat.

I must not!

51 sbvft contributor  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:12:27am

re: #44 jcm

You know the ROPs are just salivating over taking down one of those Airbus 380s. 800 infidels in the blink of a eye.

52 dahozho  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:12:40am

re: #36 lawhawk

That was my first thought-- the Fort Dix bungled jihadis. My second was- "duh!"

My feeling is maybe these investigators don't spend as much time reviewing the 'net for these terrorists as they might. And the bloggers who do are 'rewarded' with the epiphet 'vigilante.' Badge of honor these days in the MSM...

53 Bobbo  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:12:46am

Where is Tony Soprano when you need him?

I am serious. You know, back in WWII the FBI actually talked with the mafia and got co-operation in rooting out NAZI cells. Today, the Latino gangs not only don't help the Feds, they are actively bringing in terrorists to take down this country. They just don't understand what the mafia did understand...w/o this country, they don't make as much and don't live as well.

54 jcm  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:13:57am

re: #51 sbvft contributor

re: #44 jcm

You know the ROPs are just salivating over taking down one of those Airbus 380s. 800 infidels in the blink of a eye.

Lot of mass and fuel load.

55 Bobbo  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:14:14am

re: #53 Bobbo

Where is Tony Soprano when you need him?

I am serious. You know, back in WWII the FBI actually talked with the mafia and got co-operation in rooting out NAZI cells. Today, the Latino gangs not only don't help the Feds, they are actively bringing in terrorists to take down this country. They just don't understand what the mafia did understand...w/o this country, they don't make as much and don't live as well.

And I forgot to write that I am getting the feeling that the black mafia is either sympathizing with or has been taken over by the black muslim wing.

56 Izzy Dunne  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:15:39am

re: #32 Pro-Bush Canuck

re: #30 insanity police

This is bad news.
It's bad, but hardly "news".

The real question is what we're doing about it. In Canada it is far easier to deport a tourist who overstays a visa than it is to deport a known Islamist.

This will not change in the USA, unless and until attitudes about Islam change.
People WANT to believe that Islam is just another religion.
People WANT to believe that they're just like us, except they wash their feet and pray a lot and don't like it when you serve BLTs.
People WANT freedom of religion, and freedom FROM religious persecution, and as long as Islam is viewed as just another religion, it cannot be touched.

Only when Islam is officially DECLARED to be not a religion, but a cult of death, then can some action be taken without constitutional consequences.

Bush and ALL our leaders are guilty of WANTing to treat them as just another religion. It's a great American tradition. But it's failing us at the moment.

57 Geepers  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:16:42am

Hopefully they keep the same detailed records of their activities like their brothers in Iraq.

How Small Raids Net Big Gains

The raid, conducted Sept. 11 in the town of Sinjar near the Syrian border, targeted what Maj. Gen. Kevin Bergner called “a foreign terrorist facilitation cell.”

As coalition forces busted in on the seven-man AQ team, one of them detonated a suicide vest, killing himself and one of his companions, while the U.S. team made short work of the rest.

Aside from disrupting the small smuggling team, coalition forces found “literally terabytes of electronic files,” Bergner said, including 800 names of al Qaeda terrorists – 143 of those either “en route or already delivered” to Iraq.

The intel included the terrorists’ names, passport numbers, home addresses and “their transit routes that were involved in getting them here,” Bergner said in an interview with military bloggers Oct. 10.

The computer files included documents on logistics and administrative activities, “we saw how they spend their money on everything from food, fuel and weapons ... and even allocation of money to support some of their families,” Bergner added.

58 cod_is_great  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:18:43am

Paterson makes Newark look like New York.

59 nolocon  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:20:57am

I am reminded of Humphrey Bogart's line in Casablanca:
"Well there are certain sections of New York, Major, that I wouldn't advise you to try to invade."

Alas, I fear times may have changed.

60 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:21:49am
61 MajorGeneralWinfieldScottHancock  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:22:06am

But - we won't know for sure until the New York Times runs an article detailing the methods being used to track/interrogate/monitor them!

62 cod_is_great  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:22:33am

re: #59 nolocon

Staten Island, with its mountains and fierce city councilmen, would still be tough.

63 sbvft contributor  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:22:34am

Spent several weeks in Jersey City bout 10 years ago on a project. Lots of angry looking Islamists there too.

64 debutaunt  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:23:56am

46 DistantThunder 10/15/07 11:04:35 am reply quote report 0

We're originally from California from the San Jose area. but we moved to South Jersey 5 years ago.

So many east coast stereotypes are true. We still haven't figured out why some people are so hostile, and negative just as a baseline personality trait.


We are Californians who visited NJ. Based on our experiences, NJ will now host 'very rude' jihadists. re: #46 DistantThunder

65 sandspur  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:26:47am

IIRC, some of the 9/11 murderers transited through Paterson.

66 Big Steve  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:28:10am

Didn't Tony Soprano take care of those guys? I thought he ratted out all of them al-qaidies or had them sent to sleep with the fishes in Packanack Lake.

67 reloadingisnotahobby  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:29:17am

re: #34 sbvft contributor

PA...?
So then you'll be watchin out for the Amish! ?
Little easier to spot around town tho!

68 sandspur  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:32:09am

Yep, I was right
9/11 Report, Chapter 7


Rababah, who had lived in Connecticut, New York, and New Jersey, told investigators that he had recommended Paterson, New Jersey, as a place with an Arabic-speaking community where Hazmi and Hanjour might want to settle. They asked for his help in getting them an apartment in Paterson. Rababah tried without success. He says he then suggested that Hazmi and Hanjour travel with him to Connecticut where they could look for a place to live.77

On May 8, Rababah went to Hazmi and Hanjour's apartment to pick them up for the trip to Connecticut. There he says he found them with new room-mates-Ahmed al Ghamdi and Majed Moqed. These two men had been sent to America to serve as muscle hijackers and had arrived at Dulles Airport on May 2. Rababah drove Hanjour to Fairfield, Connecticut, followed by Hazmi, who had Moqed and Ghamdi in his car. After a short stay in Connecticut, where they apparently called area flight schools and real estate agents, Rababah drove the four to Paterson to have dinner and show them around. He says that they returned with him to Fairfield that night, and that he never saw them again.78

Within a few weeks, Hanjour, Hazmi, and several other operatives moved to Paterson and rented a one-room apartment. When their landlord later paid a visit, he found six men living there-Nawaf al Hazmi, now joined by his younger brother Salem, Hanjour, Moqed, probably Ahmed al Ghamdi, and Abdul Aziz al Omari; Hazmi's old friend Khalid al Mihdhar would soon join them.79

69 Brenda  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:36:56am

Another reason to end immigration from terror-supporting states, which all happen to be Muslim except for N Korea.

70 AZDave  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:38:41am

re: #18 AuntAcid

Time to send in the Jersey Girls.

Well, so much for lunch.

71 MajorGeneralWinfieldScottHancock  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:39:19am

Honestly, does this come as a surprise to anyone?

72 Meremortal  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:47:33am

re: #13 Poitiers-Lepanto

Welll, give them a state !

I suggest Vermont. Dean already has a "peace scarf."

73 REDSTATE  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:48:46am

The enemy within. For real.

74 pingjockey  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:49:06am

What has happened to the Garden State? Corrupt politicians out the wazoo, islamists running amok, WTF? Over?!

75 opnion  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:51:02am

A friend of mime from New Jersey had a meeting on Long Island on 9/11.
he had to tur around and head home . He got stuck in I believe Patterson because Muslims were having a street celebration.

76 cod_is_great  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 11:57:45am

re: #75 opnion

I call BS.

There was no way to get to NJ from Long Island on 9-11.

77 debutaunt  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 12:10:04pm

#76 cod_is_great 10/15/07 11:57:45 am reply quote report 0

re: #75 opnion

I call BS.

There was no way to get to NJ from Long Island on 9-11.


It sounded like he was stuck in NJ. re: #76 cod_is_great

78 Sharmuta  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 12:13:03pm

North Jersey is restive.

79 deanyc  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 12:18:54pm

I used to work in Jersey City. It was a hornet's nest of Islamo-fascism.

80 cod_is_great  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 12:24:45pm

re: #77 debutaunt

Right, in either case, it sounds completely implausible.

81 BuddyG  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 12:32:12pm

Why are New Yorkers always depressed ?

'Cause the light at the end of the tunnel is New Jersey

82 Ben Hur  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 12:37:29pm

It must be those ISraeli Mossad agents that were dancing on the roof of their car while smuggling explosives over the GW Bridge.

It couldn't have anything to do with Islamofascism.

83 Russkilitlover  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 12:47:28pm

re: #27 zombie

Paterson, eh?

First Allen Ginsburg, and now these jihadis.

Is there anything that city isn't good for?


Breathing, for one. Ever smell NJ? Gah!

84 Russkilitlover  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 12:49:43pm

re: #35 lawhawk

re: #27 zombie

Paterson is a hive of villany and scum

The bar scene in Star Wars? I thought that was the UN.

85 necklace of shoes  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 12:49:43pm

#75 Opinion - I rode through Paterson's Muslim area twice on 9/11. You would've thought the area was on lockdown.

Charles there is some of the best technical mtn bike riding in the country in the area south of Rt 80. No BS.

86 astronmr20  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 12:53:06pm

Um...

why are we "monitoring" these people with "ties to Al Qaeda" and not deporting them?

87 astronmr20  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 12:53:38pm

re: #84 Russkilitlover

LOL

Mos Eisely...

88 mabrouk  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 1:03:19pm

This is crazy... first GWU and now Bergen County? These are the only two places I have been for the 25 years I've been on this Earth and both are being overrun by nutbags.

89 alteredbeat  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 1:10:44pm

Godspeed FBI. My prayers are with you. The safety of hundreds, nay thousands rests upon your diligence.

90 experiencedtraveller  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 1:12:15pm

Don't worry lizards!

They may throw the first punch in Jersey but we will surely throw the last.

/Hackensack

91 funkyfantom  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 1:13:10pm

re: #19 beblebrox

someone outta send over Vinny the Gooch and Joe Bagadonuts to give them a tour of Jersey from the trunk of a large Caddy. Maybe introduce them to Jimmy Hoffa.

Sorry, the Mafia looks like the Girl Scouts compared to Al Qaeda.

Sadly, only the Third Reich was ruthless and organizationally competent enough to destroy a formidable foe like Islamofascism- but that was a cure worse than the disease.

92 toadbelly  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 1:17:58pm

I worked in Paterson for a time- it has one of the largest Muslim communities in the country (it may be second only to Dearborn). Several of the 9/11 hijackers lived there, as someone else pointed out, it was also where they got their fake ID.
Paterson, like most of the cities in NJ is a beacon of government entitlements. It's infrastructure is crumbling, its crime-ridden and corrupt (completely run by democrats who rig the votes through intimidation and fraud). Not only is there a large Muslim/Arab population, there is also a large illegal (mostly Spanish speaking) population.
The one good thing I can say about the city is the food.
And for anyone who thinks the only thing jersey has to offer is a an awful smell, you haven't traveled through much of jersey.

93 funkyfantom  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 1:18:27pm

Actually the easiest way for New jersey jihadis to murder infidels and get away with it is to keep doing what they are doing right now, only step up the pace.

I refer, of course, to their kamizake cabdriving.

And in America, killing someone with a car is more or less tolerated, whereas using commercial jetliners gets people angry.

I wonder how many pedestrians paki/Bangladeshi/Egyptian cabdrivers would have to slaughter per week before it negatively impacted their rates of immigration?

94 alteredbeat  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 1:18:41pm

re: #91 funkyfantom

The Third Reich partnered with Islamofascism. Look up Hilter and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.

95 AirForceWife  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 1:28:12pm

#40 insanity police 10/15/07 11:01:23 am reply quote report

What are we going to do about it? Hopefully arrest and deport these SOBs.

Kick a few out of the back door here and there...maybe.
Meanwhile the front doors have all been taken off their hinges.
When will we learn?

96 funkyfantom  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 1:29:34pm

re: #94 alteredbeat

re: #91 funkyfantom

The Third Reich partnered with Islamofascism. Look up Hilter and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.

Thanks for the history lesson, but I've known this for decades.

97 mrsoc  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 1:37:20pm

I'm sorry, is there some part of this that seems surprising? Did I not tell you that there is always a Jersey connection?

98 debutaunt  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 1:42:39pm

#80 cod_is_great 10/15/07 12:24:45 pm reply quote report 0

re: #77 debutaunt

Right, in either case, it sounds completely implausible.
Get out! Are you suggesting that someone would deliberately try to stir things up? re: #80 cod_is_great

99 KrankyOldGuy  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 1:45:38pm

#92 - toadbelly:
I worked in Paterson for a time- it has one of the largest Muslim
communities in the country (it may be second only to Dearborn).

I lived in Paterson from the age of 9 to 24 back in the '50s and '60s and it was a pretty good place to live. I wouldn't go back there now for anything. But to reinforce toadbelly's comment above; I saw a documentary on TV late last year where they said that Paterson now has the largest Palestinian population in the U.S.

100 BuddyG  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 1:47:10pm

Toxic waste dumps and al Qaeda activity.

At least NJ is consistent.

101 BuddyG  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 1:54:37pm

Prounounced Joy - Z

102 kcladderman  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 2:00:11pm

Relax ! Everyone knows the Christian right is more dangerous than al quaeda

103 DanThePainter  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 2:12:27pm

re: #18 AuntAcid

So, you didn't hear the warning about the brown acid.

104 MajorGeneralWinfieldScottHancock  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 2:24:32pm

re: #100 BuddyG

Toxic waste dumps and al Qaeda activity.

At least NJ is consistent.

Now if only we could put the two of them together somehow...

105 debutaunt  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 3:19:23pm

Favorite NJ joke. Newark is an Indian word which means: "What's that smell?"

106 NoSpam  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 5:00:25pm

Another reason for me to hate NJ.

"Welcome to New Jersey. Now go home."

107 NoSpam  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 5:02:39pm

re: #102 kcladderman


Yeah. Gotta watch out for those crafty Jehovah's wittnesses and their pamphlets. One false move and BAM! Papercuts all over the place.

Or the Saint medals. Choking hazard, dontcha know.

108 ZK273  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 5:05:16pm

Just another day here in the Glorious Democratic People's Republic of New Jersey. =P

109 NoSpam  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 5:17:52pm

New Jersey: the Garden Oil and Petrochemical Refinery State(tm)

110 Goosio  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 5:29:35pm

A few years ago I was in Paterson visiting my grandmother. We drove past a mosque. They were having some kind of event, hijabs everywhere.

When she told me the building used to be a synagogue, I nearly threw up.

111 Quicklime  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 5:37:32pm

*sigh*
First I had to eyeball the green Empire State Building on Friday night (got me pretty agitated as I crossed the Pulaski Skyway - not a good place to be agitated), now it's more "news" that isn't really news to anyone who lives in New Jersey. The bigger Northeastern cities in the state are hotbeds of evil, and there is also a wave (more like a tsunami) of illegal immigrant populations moving Westward (which has been going on since I was a child - my hometown is essentially overrun at this point).

Having lived in NJ most of my life, I can somewhat agree with the majority of "jokes" told about it. However, I implore my fellow Lizards to remember not to tar all of us with the same brush - the area I live in is actually rather conservative, lush woodlands and suburbs. There are a surprisingly large amount of people around here who not only don't buy into the big-city corruption or liberalism but are really on "our" side.

New Jersey can be healed and made nearly pure again by three simple methods:
1). Everything and anything East of the Parkway and within 5 miles West of the Parkway can and should be slid off into the ocean (or nuked with Neutron weapons) - I include the Camden area, even though it's not East of the Parkway.
2). Take the three biggest unions in the state and get rid of them altogether. They control everything in this state and represent most of our tax money, which is basically like pouring that money into a singularity. They are bankrupting this state, which is only going to mean more taxes anyway.
3). Fire every politician in this state (including all three branches of government), and import new ones from elsewhere in the country. Corruption in this state is completely out of control, and all three branches are just looking out for each other here.

I know it's just a pipe dream, but it would be like a return to Eden. ;)

112 sbvft contributor  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 5:54:21pm

re: #111 Quicklime

LOL. ITSA START!

113 NoSpam  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 5:59:24pm

re: #111 Quicklime

Add to that: Administer a beatdown to anybody who tries to run a pipeline from the Cohancey (sp?) aquifer into North Jersey.

Our water, dangit!

114 Barry the Baptist  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 6:07:23pm

People shouldn't be surprised. The borders are wide open; we paid for the 'relocation' of many Hizbullah fighters sympathizers last summer to Detroit; we allow 'moderate' (ha) CAIR to spew Islamist propaganda freely; try to give US rights to captured terrorists, etc.

These people and their ilk can only be dealt with through strength. The less we show of it collectively, the more blantant these idiots will become. Unfortunately, since most are ill informed and apathetic, it's likely to get a lot worse before it gets any better.

115 capitalistincharge  Mon, Oct 15, 2007 6:10:40pm

Daughter lives in Lodi...when I visit she reminds me to talk quietly when discussing Islamofacists or Mob so no one can hear the comments. Even though we are in her apartment but with windows open.. She and hubby have told me that living there means you keep your eyes down, mouth shut and myob. They are there for a 3 year stint for jobs in the City, then plan to get back to Philly. The place is disgusting and does not give the impression of being a nice place to live.


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