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Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 9:27:35 am PDT

The mainstream media have been almost universally dishonest about Rush Limbaugh’s fundraising for MC-LEF. We pointed out the lies from Reuters and the New York Times yesterday, and Bob Owens has a post about the deceptions being pushed by ABC News: ABC News Credits Dems for Limbaugh Fundraiser; Reporter Botches Mission of MC-LEF Due to Laziness.

This is why the MSM’s reputation is in the tank. They’re nothing but lazy shills for the left wing.

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1 The Albatross  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:29:10am

LGF... shouting truth to the screed.

2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:29:11am

8 lbs, 3 0z. Thomas Andrew

3 Racer X  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:29:38am

Wouldn't be the First time.

4 ornery elephant  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:29:40am

Shills who need to be shucked

5 Racer X  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:29:57am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

Congratulations!

6 Curt  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:30:56am

I predicted yesterday this would be spun like this...The Dems are the saviors of the world, who can argue that?

I bet the DNC and others were up two nights making calls to figure out how to position this entire stroy to show their compassion for the troops, instead of showing their distain for the 1st Amendment...

And, as yesterday, the iPod generation will only see the MSM side of the stroy...

7 Revka  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:31:24am

Charles, right on. I knew they would give the libs credit for it somehow.

Just wait, if they aren't saying this already: "It is about time we quit this partisan bickering and 'come together' like Reid and Limbaugh did to do something good for this country".

They are covering up the truth, ONCE AGAIN, with huge lies.

8 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:32:00am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

8 lbs, 3 0z. Thomas Andrew

Mazel Tov!

9 realwest  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:32:58am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul Hey, congratulations Ed! Hope mom and baby are doing well!

10 Perplexed  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:33:28am

If the MSM were to write an article about the sun rising in the east and setting in the west then 95% of them would screw that up as well.

Our MSM has always been sensationalistic towards the news and in doing so have done a disservice to the public.

11 Perplexed  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:34:06am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

Good. Hope wife and baby are both doing well.

12 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:34:10am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

8 lbs, 3 0z. Thomas Andrew

Congratulations!

How's your wife?

13 spec_ops_mateo  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:34:25am

The MSM can't let the democrat party leader been seen in this light. Wink wink, nudge nudge.

14 Orbit Rain  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:34:34am
This is why the MSM’s reputation is in the tank. They’re nothing but lazy shills for the left wing.

This seems to be what happens when you go to J-School and don't actually *learn* anything.

15 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:34:47am

7:10 pm CDT.


I knew we should have skipped work and gone to the hospital, but Mrs. M was upset about being sent home the night before. Anyway, lots of labor pain excitement driving in rush hour traffic to the hospital, over 8 cm when we arrived at the hospital, too late for any anethesia, enough straining that all kinds of broken facial capillaries for Mrs. M, Thomas came out screaming but purple. 8 lbs 3 oz is apparently LGA, or big for 2 weeks early, and his blood sugar drops more than they like between feedings, but he likes to eat, so all is good. Mom & baby napping, home for shower, change of clothes, and maybe a nap in a real bed and a couple of loads of laundry.

16 Catttt  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:35:59am

But I do like the WaPo's headline:

Limbaugh Spins Reid's Letter Into Charity Gold

17 gymnast  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:36:54am

re: #15 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

Congrats Ed!

18 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:37:15am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

8 lbs, 3 0z. Thomas Andrew

Congrats! Cigars all around!

19 realwest  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:37:29am

Charles - you said "This is why the MSM’s reputation is in the tank. They’re nothing but lazy shills for the left wing."
But don't you see it's really ONLY the left wing that bothers reading/watching the MSM, so the MSM is really just payin' back to their constituents.

21 jcm  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:37:58am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

8 lbs, 3 0z. Thomas Andrew

YEAH! Cigars all around WhooHOOO!

22 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:38:00am

To be fair, I do have it from a very reliable source that the msm is incapable of running an internet search. So, getting the facts right in this story very well could have been difficult for them.

23 BignJames  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:38:10am

MSM Twists, Distorts, and Lies About the Limbaugh Letter

IOW business as usual

24 Catttt  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:38:49am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

8 lbs, 3 0z. Thomas Andrew


:) :) :) :) Two claws way up!

25 The Other Les  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:38:50am

I stopped believing the MSM back during the Cold War.

I just everyone else would also adopt amediaism.

26 Charles  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:40:37am

Congrats to you and your wife, Ed.

27 jcm  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:42:03am

Local Seattle media made it sound like a collaborative effort between Reid and Limbaugh.

28 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:42:07am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

8 lbs, 3 0z. Thomas Andrew

Congratulations Dad! And now the real fun begins :)

29 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:42:46am
30 Poitiers-Lepanto  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:43:01am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

8 lbs, 3 0z. Thomas Andrew

Congratulations !
Joy !
Joy !
Joy!

31 jcm  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:43:09am

re: #22 Sharmuta

To be fair, I do have it from a very reliable source that the msm is incapable of running an internet search. So, getting the facts right in this story very well could have been difficult for them.

I think RESEARCH is a completely foreign term to the MSM.

32 Boondock St. Bender  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:43:25am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

congratulations!

33 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:43:42am

re: #15 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

Forget the laundry. It's not going anywhere.

34 mean Gene  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:43:47am

OT/
What a shame!

Courts-Martial for 2 in Haditha Deaths

Lt. Col. Jeffrey R. Chessani faces charges of dereliction of duty and violation of a lawful order on allegations that he mishandled the aftermath of the Nov. 19, 2005, shootings, which followed a roadside bombing that killed a Marine driver.

Chessani was commander of the Camp Pendleton-based 3rd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment that has been the focus of the biggest prosecution of U.S. troops in the Iraq war.

If convicted on all counts, Chessani faces up to three years in prison.


Lance Cpl. Stephen B. Tatum, was ordered to face a court-martial on charges of involuntary manslaughter, reckless endangerment and aggravated assault. He is one of four Marines originally charged with murder in the killings.

Tatum, of Edmond, Okla., shot and killed civilians, but "he did so because of his training and the circumstances he was placed in, not to exact revenge and commit murder," Lt. Col. Paul Ware wrote last month in recommending he not face court-martial.

A date for those hearings has not been set.

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

35 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:44:43am

I wish Rush and Ms. Casey would take out large ads in the NYT, WaPost and LA Times to set the record straight.

36 The Other Les  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:44:54am

re: #26 Charles

Congrats to you and your wife, Ed.

Same here!

(Doesn't this call for a thread?)

37 Stogiechomper  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:44:54am

re: #18 NJDhockeyfan

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul


8 lbs, 3 0z. Thomas Andrew

Congrats! Cigars all around!

NOW you're talkin'!

38 mean Gene  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:44:57am

Oh, my Gosh!
Congratulations to Ed and family!
Happy, happy, happy!

39 uncle_walter87  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:45:10am

Speaking of the media's twisting of the truth, Daily Kos' very own Markos Moulitsas is visiting my University (the University of Arkansas - Fayetteville) to discuss free speech and the media this coming week. Fortunately, I have class during this time.

40 Revka  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:45:42am

The wierd thing about this is that this reminds me of a 'Jim Jones' cult, and it isn't just among the whacko's anymore. This cult involves most of the liberals in congress and in America.

Liberal ideology has de-evolved into a religious cult. This is amazing.

41 realwest  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:45:55am

re: #22 Sharmuta With all due respect, it wasn't incompetence on the MSM's part (though you could certainly be forgiven for suspecting that at first). No, this was DELIBERATE DISTORTION, pure and simple. No one could possibly read that letter and believe that the Dems wrote it so it could be auctioned off to help out some charity. It was clearly written, by elected officials, to censor a free citizen's views.
The ONLY way the MSM could have reported it the way they did (some even left out that Rush OWNED the letter or that Rush matched the winning bidder to increase the take by the charity) was by deliberate distortion.

42 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:47:09am

re: #39 uncle_walter87

Speaking of the media's twisting of the truth, Daily Kos' very own Markos Moulitsas is visiting my University (the University of Arkansas - Fayetteville) to discuss free speech and the media this coming week. Fortunately, I have class during this time.

Skip class. The tape should be worth a small fortune. :)

43 realwest  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:47:27am

re: #20 Jay777 Geebus, why the hell don't you read at least Charles lead in to a thread?!

44 The Other Les  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:47:41am

re: #34 mean Gene

Sometimes you have to go through the whole process to get a proper acquittal.

And would someone *please* drop a law library on that SOB Murtha?

45 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:48:19am

re: #41 realwest

That was my attempt at satire.

46 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:48:34am

re: #41 realwest

re: #22 Sharmuta With all due respect, it wasn't incompetence on the MSM's part (though you could certainly be forgiven for suspecting that at first). No, this was DELIBERATE DISTORTION, pure and simple. No one could possibly read that letter and believe that the Dems wrote it so it could be auctioned off to help out some charity. It was clearly written, by elected officials, to censor a free citizen's views.
The ONLY way the MSM could have reported it the way they did (some even left out that Rush OWNED the letter or that Rush matched the winning bidder to increase the take by the charity) was by deliberate distortion.

100% agreed. Somebody sends you a letter, you own the thing. BTW, you too can own a copy of the letter. Available by PDF from Rush's site.

Every one of the Senators who signed it should be censured.

47 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:49:14am

re: #34 mean Gene

Far from the charges of murder, these are lesser included charges, suggesting that the case was anything but a slam dunk. It goes to the difficulty of proving the case of cold blooded murder, which was what Rep. Murtha claimed on the floor of Congress and on his tv appearances.

48 itellu3times  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:49:26am

re: #41 realwest

... No, this was DELIBERATE DISTORTION, pure and simple.

In fact, the NYT article I take to deliberately open with a blatant lie in part because Rush refused to talk to the specific reporter.

The WaPo article looks like it was validly written, and then the lies were edited IN.

That, my friends, is the MSM at work today.

49 Macker  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:49:44am

OFF TOPIC: What the Left sees in Mikhail Gorbachev (it doesn't take a rocket scientist)

50 The Other Les  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:49:57am

re: #40 Revka

The wierd thing about this is that this reminds me of a 'Jim Jones' cult, and it isn't just among the whacko's anymore. This cult involves most of the liberals in congress and in America.

Liberal ideology has de-evolved into a religious cult. This is amazing.

Any deliberate disconnect from reality will evolve into a cult.

Of course those who deliberately ignore reality will eventually be crushed by it.

51 bikpela  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:49:57am

Welcome to the world Thomas Andrew and congratch to you and your wife
Ed Mahmoud!

52 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:50:03am

re: #44 The Other Les

Forget a law library. I want to see those Marines who were libeled and slandered (print and video) make him pay for his reprehensible comments.

53 itellu3times  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:50:18am

... and congrats to Mr., Mrs., and baby M!

54 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:50:51am

re: #35 MandyManners

I wish Rush and Ms. Casey would take out large ads in the NYT, WaPost and LA Times to set the record straight.

Why would you wish that Mandy? That would do nothing but financially reward the New York Slimes and company for deliberately misreporting the news. Haven't they been financially rewarded enough already?

55 Perplexed  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:51:04am

re: #40 Revka

Liberal ideology has de-evolved into a religious cult. This is amazing.

Depending on your perspective this is either morbidly amusing or sad in that this rushes in to replace a religious vacuum.

56 realwest  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:51:11am

re: #45 Sharmuta Ah, sorry!

57 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:51:20am

re: #35 MandyManners

They shouldn't have to take out ads to get their point of view heard. They should be able to get an op-ed to counter the bs spewed by the so-called news side.

58 Dianna  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:51:22am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

Oh, congratulations, Ed and Mrs. Mahmoud!

59 jcm  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:51:51am

A real hatchling quarantined not to be a troll or moby.

Forecast for Ed mahmoud house.
SMILES, GIGGLES, JOY, HAPPINESS, LITTLE SLEEP, URPS, AND DIAPERS.

60 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:52:08am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

8 lbs, 3 0z. Thomas Andrew

Congratulations!

61 The Other Les  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:52:30am

re: #52 lawhawk

re: #44 The Other Les

Forget a law library. I want to see those Marines who were libeled and slandered (print and video) make him pay for his reprehensible comments.

As opposed to simply "throwing the book" at him.

Of course Murtha should be held accountable.

62 DoubleU  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:52:46am

And your shocked (shocked you tell me)?
You knew this would get turned around. However more and more people are becoming aware of how the media lies.

63 LC LaWedgie  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:53:30am

This has got to be the most ridiculous post I've ever seen:


...the righteous children of Israel at The New York Times for bringing light to us all.
64 MandyManners  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:53:31am

re: #54 galloping granny

re: #35 MandyManners


I wish Rush and Ms. Casey would take out large ads in the NYT, WaPost and LA Times to set the record straight.

Why would you wish that Mandy? That would do nothing but financially reward the New York Slimes and company for deliberately misreporting the news. Haven't they been financially rewarded enough already?

It would be a poke in the eye to use their pages to set the record straight.

65 The Albatross  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:53:59am
66 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:54:12am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul


lbs, 3 0z. Thomas Andrew


Congratulations, Ed! And wishing Mrs. M good health and cheer.
:)

67 The Other Les  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:54:25am

re: #62 DoubleU

And your shocked (shocked you tell me)?
You knew this would get turned around. However more and more people are becoming aware of how the media lies.

The Weekly World News could not stand up to competition from The New York Times.

68 pat  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:54:44am

re: #41 realwest

re: #22 Sharmuta With all due respect, it wasn't incompetence on the MSM's part (though you could certainly be forgiven for suspecting that at first). No, this was DELIBERATE DISTORTION, pure and simple. No one could possibly read that letter and believe that the Dems wrote it so it could be auctioned off to help out some charity. It was clearly written, by elected officials, to censor a free citizen's views.
The ONLY way the MSM could have reported it the way they did (some even left out that Rush OWNED the letter or that Rush matched the winning bidder to increase the take by the charity) was by deliberate distortion.

Absolutely true. The ABC story is as fraudulent as the infamous CBS memo concocted in collusion with Rather et al. Propaganda and lies.

69 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:55:20am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul
I'd like to add my congratulations as well. Nice, strong name.

70 LaMano  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:55:22am

Harry Reid - Suicide Bombaster®

71 pat  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:55:30am

Ed, congrats.

72 Catttt  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:55:48am

re: #65 The Albatross

re: #58 Dianna


Ditto dad and Teach Your Children Well (Sorry for the Hansons but I'm presently pissed at David Crosby)

That's ok. The Hanson Brothers are definitely better-looking. :)

73 The Other Les  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:55:49am

Gotta do some shopping, bye!

74 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:56:00am

re: #64 MandyManners

re: #54 galloping granny

re: #35 MandyManners


I wish Rush and Ms. Casey would take out large ads in the NYT, WaPost and LA Times to set the record straight.


Why would you wish that Mandy? That would do nothing but financially reward the New York Slimes and company for deliberately misreporting the news. Haven't they been financially rewarded enough already?

It would be a poke in the eye to use their pages to set the record straight.

The people that want to know the straight record likely already do. Those that do not want to know the straight record are not going to be convinced anyway.

75 pat  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:56:15am

I hope Rush reads "The best of..." on his radio show.

76 DoubleU  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:56:29am

re: #22 Sharmuta

To be fair, I do have it from a very reliable source that the msm is incapable of running an internet search. So, getting the facts right in this story very well could have been difficult for them.

Journalist (noun) (jûr'n%u0259-l%u012Dst):
A lazy individual that took a career because they were poor in math.

77 realwest  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:56:47am

re: #44 The Other Les

re: #47 lawhawk

Um, just a friendly reminder to two great lizards that around here he is known as John Fucking Murtha (D-PA).
That son of a bitch had those Marines "arrested" tried and convicted in the Media long before the investigation had even come to any conclussion AT ALL about what had happened.
AND he earned his name by telling reporters that his "impeccable sources" in the Marine Corps. had told him that they were guilty as sin in that case.

78 Carol Herman  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:57:05am

You know, even in a happy marriage, love isn't 100%.

If it was, you'd never have laughed at Jackie Gleason, when he said, "Alice, pow, right in the kisser."

Same is true in politics.

Today, it's obvious, the "letter game" is over. And, Rush won.

Better to try and figure out what the letter writer, and his team, were up to. They got excited at this idea BEFORE it saw the light of day!

Heck, all 41 signers, had no idea that Rush ("with one hand tied behind his back") could out-do senators. People who've been elected. And, actually handed legitimate powers.

Of course, Reid's first mistake, was to step off the US Constitution.

Have you noticed in baseball, no batter can race forward to swing at the ball, if he can't drop the bat onto the mat? You thought those were just "lines" so the TV cameras could focus?

Reid went foul.

Again, the real story, here, is what happened BEFORE. I'd bet Reid was "given this idea." He didn't even come up with it on his own! And, nobody who signed had any trouble doing so. This must have been one big insider's joke.

NOT. ANY. MORE!

By the way, I hope Rush writes a "tip" book ... giving demonstrations in "sequels."

Once you've got a hit, why stop?

79 Carol Herman  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:59:14am

re: #64 MandyManners

I wouldn't give the NY Times business that brought them any advertising income at all!

Rush's show, by the way, gets more viewers than the NY Times has subscribers. And, it's possile that there are more people tuning in, again, than not. Why not? That's where you'd go if you wanted MORE story, isn't it?

80 Dianna  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:59:29am

re: #65 The Albatross

Oddly nice version. Thank you.

81 Perplexed  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:59:52am

re: #76 DoubleU

Journalist (noun) (jûr'n%u0259-l%u012Dst):A lazy individual that took a career because they were poor in math.

Could it be an issue with the toxic chemicals found in a modern office causing diminished mental faculties? White out is toxic. Permanent markers are toxic. Laser printers emit ozone. Could it be possible that journalists have ingested far too many of these common office chemicals and suffer from the adverse effects?

82 wahabicorridor  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:59:55am

re: #16 Cattt

But I do like the WaPo's headline:

Limbaugh Spins Reid's Letter Into Charity Gold

Did you read the article?

The letter in question is an Oct 2 two-pager from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reig (D-Nev) to Celar Cahnnel Communications CEO Mark Mays lambasting the syndicate's Rush Limbaugh, who had recently criticized U.S. troops who were against the war in Iraq.
"Phony soldiers" blasted Limbaugh.

The clearly leaves the impression that Rush labelled soldiers against the war as 'phony soldiers'. The article never clears it up.

I don't feel like linking - it's on page 1 of the Style section.

Ed Mahmoud, joy, mazel tov, kisses for Mom. Get some rest. While you can.

83 LaMano  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:00:13am

Make that
Harry Reid - Suicide Bombaster&trade

84 mjk  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:00:23am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

8 lbs, 3 0z. Thomas Andrew

Let me join in the Mazel Tov's, Ed! 8lbs 3oz is big for a baby, especially one born early. But (speaking as an old NICU nurse), sometime it's better to be born too big than too small. Have fun with him, sounds like he'll be a handful!

And to the MSM, I say, yawn. I lost interest in you when you reported the whole Jenin thing and lost even more interest when I went to Israel and saw how much you lied about Israelis and the whole situation. So blah to the MSM and my life goes on.

Too bad they don't know how irrelevant they are in the long run, especially with the Internets? You'd think their buddy, Al Gore, who invented the Internets would have clued them in on how to use it before the Zionist conspiracy took it over...

85 ctrlL  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:00:46am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

Congratulations to Mamma, Papa & siblings. A future football player, I'm sure.

86 Dianna  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:00:52am

re: #72 Cattt

Well, at least they're younger.

David Crosby is clearly suffering from premature senility.

87 secsailor  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:01:02am

I think a commenter over at Captains Quaters nailed it on the head with this remark:


The conservative thinks of a free-market way of raising private funds to aid a worthwhile causes and backs his commitment with his own money.

The liberal asks other people to donate funds, doesn't donate any of his own money, and tries to take credit for the generosity of others.

88 lawhawk  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:01:14am

re: #77 realwest

re: #44 The Other Les

re: #47 lawhawk

Um, just a friendly reminder to two great lizards that around here he is known as John Fucking Murtha (D-PA).
That son of a bitch had those Marines "arrested" tried and convicted in the Media long before the investigation had even come to any conclussion AT ALL about what had happened.
AND he earned his name by telling reporters that his "impeccable sources" in the Marine Corps. had told him that they were guilty as sin in that case.

Sorry, but I can't bring myself to use that term. [deleted] will have to suffice.

89 Racer X  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:02:03am

I am not a big Rush fan, but he is bitch-slapping the hell out of Harry Reid, and many other democrats, and they have no idea on how to respond.

Betty Casey Wins Smear Letter at $2,100,100;
Rush Matches Bid; MC-LEF Will Get a Total of $4.2M

So the Marine Corps-Law Enforcement Foundation, it's now official, is going to get in excess of $4.2 million because I am matching Betty Casey's bid on eBay -- $4.2 million. I asked Senator Reid to match and all the other senators who can afford to do so. I haven't heard from them on that. I asked Senator Reid to go on the program and discuss his discussion of me as "unpatriotic." He did not accept my offer to do that, and now has the audacity to climb aboard this, praising the effort, saying that "he" never knew that it would get this kind of money. It got this kind of money because it represents one of the most outrageous abuses of federal power in modern American history, and that is what makes it a collector's item.

This letter that Senator Reid wrote will forever memorialize him as a demagogue, and the same for the other 40 who signed it. Senator Reid will be remembered forever, here, as a disgrace.

90 Carol Herman  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:02:06am

re: #83 LaMano

Make that
Harry Reid - Suicide Bombaster™

It's not suicide, though, till he's blasted out of his presidency.

91 Deadly sheep  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:02:32am

My wish...all the kids that Rush, Mrs. Casey, and the Foundation help make load of bucks. Then do a hostile buyout of a number of news agencies, revamping them into truth-only news organizations.

Congratulations Ed!

92 akak  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:03:24am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

congrats

93 Irene NYC  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:03:37am

re: #74 galloping granny


The people that want to know the straight record likely already do. Those that do not want to know the straight record are not going to be convinced anyway.

Granny,

I don't think that's necessarily true. My mom, for example, lives in a one-paper town and that paper slants heavily anti-Bush and anti-war. Although she is very good at seeing through a lot of the heavy-handed propaganda, that doesn't tell her what did really happen. I imagine that's the case for a lot of people, especially older ones whose world turned around newspapers and are not that conversant with the web.

94 realwest  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:03:55am

re: #64 MandyManners I certainly understand how you feel, but as I indicated in my #19, the overwhelmingly people who would read that ad wouldn't believe it anyway. I truly believe that anyone who believes anything in the NYT or WaPo will believe this lie and also believe that any ad Rush takes out to be a falsehood. Just a waste of Rush's money and more income to failing business enterprises like the NYT and WaPo.

95 jamsler  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:04:23am

Long lurking noob, not trustful of the shover robot's two cents worth:

I believe that this is why Reid & Co. never seemed worried about looking like idiots. They knew the MSM had their backs. The moonbats will unquestioningly follow the liberal's spin. No lefty minds have been changed.

It begins to read like Orwell.

Rush spun gold from leftist vitriol and spread compassion. It's a great illustration of the difference between good and evil.

Bravo Rush!

96 LaMano  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:04:37am

re: #90 Carol Herman

He needs to be Daschle'd. Hairy is doing his part. Now the Nevada voters need to close the deal.

97 NJDhockeyfan  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:04:41am

Ed, have you already bought the crib?

98 Cap'n DOC  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:04:49am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

Congratulations! It's a boy! And a wonderful name and that.

99 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:04:55am

re: #56 realwest

It's alright. Maybe only Geepers would get that joke. But for the record, I am no media apologist.

But this starts with reid's spin, and the msm just runs leftist spin spun even more. It's not surprising, but is is blatantly obvious and disgusting. It's why Rush calls them the "drive by media". They couldn't have proven his point better.

And to top it all off- Rush has another weekend of free publicity.

100 missouri boy  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:05:13am

MSM twists , distorts, and lies about the Limbaugh letter...the result:

Rush is more popular now, than ever before...keep it up MSM.

101 elevenbravo1969  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:05:15am

Harry Reid's little speech yesterday on the Senate floor was nothing short of disgusting. His attempt to weasel and worm his way out of what had so obviously become an embarrassing circumstance just made me want to puke. He's trying to wipe the egg off his face with one hand while slyly trying to slip the other up on to Limbaugh's shoulder. He should have stood up and said, "I acted hastily in this matter and I made a mistake. I apologize." What a wretched little man.

102 gop_patriot  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:05:43am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

8 lbs, 3 0z. Thomas Andrew

Congratulations, Ed! :) A new baby, what a sweet thing.

103 clarence  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:05:44am

I'm pretty sure I know what the main theme of Rush's monday broadcast will be.

104 realwest  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:05:49am

re: #65 The Albatross Don't mind you being mad at David Crosby, but a different worthless pos wrote that song: Graham Nash.
Just saying...

105 wahabicorridor  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:05:59am

re: #77 realwest

re: #44 The Other Les

re: #47 lawhawk

Um, just a friendly reminder to two great lizards that around here he is known as John Fucking Murtha (D-PA).
That son of a bitch had those Marines "arrested" tried and convicted in the Media long before the investigation had even come to any conclussion AT ALL about what had happened.
AND he earned his name by telling reporters that his "impeccable sources" in the Marine Corps. had told him that they were guilty as sin in that case.

real, correct me if memory fails - I thought at least one of those soldiers is suing Murtha?


re: #78 Carol Herman

What time is it on your planet?

106 Catttt  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:06:37am

re: #82 wahabicorridor

re: #16 Cattt


But I do like the WaPo's headline:

Limbaugh Spins Reid's Letter Into Charity Gold


Did you read the article?

The letter in question is an Oct 2 two-pager from Senate Majority Leader Harry Reig (D-Nev) to Celar Cahnnel Communications CEO Mark Mays lambasting the syndicate's Rush Limbaugh, who had recently criticized U.S. troops who were against the war in Iraq.
"Phony soldiers" blasted Limbaugh.

The clearly leaves the impression that Rush labelled soldiers against the war as 'phony soldiers'. The article never clears it up.

Yeah, the article, while not boilerplate from the AP (or barely rewritten almost boilerplate), which is what so many papers serve up, continued to serve up that bit as if it were carved on tablets from Mount Sinai.

That wasn't, however, my point. It is ironic that just having editors who take the time to compose half-way decent headlines makes WaPo stand out from the other similar US papers, but it does.

107 Carol Herman  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:06:39am

re: #22 Sharmuta

To be fair, I do have it from a very reliable source that
the msm is incapable of running an internet search. So, getting the
facts right in this story very well could have been difficult for them.

Even better, the slide down of the NY Times, will be a business-study-case, up ahead, that will be taught for a long time to come.

They'll go down. But their sinking story won't disappear.

Don Surber, yesterday, had a terrific article on this. InstaPundit provided the link. Seems "pinch" sold the BUILDING. And, he said: That's like selling Park Place to defend Baltic.

Shows ya. Monopoly. A game invented back in the 1930's. And, the words are still in play.

108 'Nam Grunt  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:06:47am

HiGuys,

Congrats Ed, hope you have many more, what's that 20 now? LOL


BTW y'all, Reid is a LIAR and POS!

109 Pro-Bush Canuck  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:07:00am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

8 lbs, 3 0z. Thomas Andrew

Congrats, Ed!

All the best to you and your family!

110 Dianna  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:07:21am

Well, I must get back to cleaning house in anticipation of my birthday dinner. Which is more like a birthday lunch.

I am happy to report that it will be duck (the preparation is the job of my Male and our good friends), potatoes anna (it's my birthday, dammit, I'm allowed a few carbs!), and who knows what for desert, but it's bound to be good.

Have a really good day! I know I will.

Happy birthday to me!

111 LaMano  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:07:35am

re: #101 elevenbravo1969

He'd rather dine with Ann Coulter than apologize.

(That does create a provocative mental image.)

112 Pro-Bush Canuck  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:07:41am

re: #110 Dianna

Happy birthday, Dianna!

113 pat  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:07:43am

The funny thing is, this is one of those stories that if you read beyond the first few paragraphs you easily discern that the MSM is purposely deceitful. and hence another unconcerned citizen is awakened. Suicide by the MSM.

114 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:08:19am

re: #93 Irene NYC

re: #74 galloping granny



The people that want to know the straight record likely already do. Those that do not want to know the straight record are not going to be convinced anyway.

Granny,

I don't think that's necessarily true. My mom, for example, lives in a one-paper town and that paper slants heavily anti-Bush and anti-war. Although she is very good at seeing through a lot of the heavy-handed propaganda, that doesn't tell her what did really happen. I imagine that's the case for a lot of people, especially older ones whose world turned around newspapers and are not that conversant with the web.

This is very true. I live in a one-paper town myself - a weekly. Taking out a full page ad in the New York Times would not change that though. They do sell it up here, but it is a very limited version that is smaller than both the local weekly and the local weekly "flea" that is all ads for stuff folks want to sell.

115 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:08:21am

Ed, nice way to derail the thread. Mohammad is a much more popular name now than Thomas or Andrew. However, I respect both Thomas, Enlightener of India, and Andrew, the First-Called.

On ABC's blog, the comments just tear the story (file under Fiction or Myth and Legends?) to pieces. It's why i no longer watch or read the mainstream media's junk news anymore. It's just too easy to at least do a preliminary fact-check with google or yahoo for them to make such blatant mistakes. Occasionally I will watch or read FoxNews, because they still seem to care about truth, and seem to think their audience aren't little sheeplings (Baaa-aaa-aaa). If I am able to fact-check, grammar-check and spell-check a story in 5 minutes, why can't they? Don't they have interns?

116 wahabicorridor  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:09:23am

re: #101 elevenbravo1969


He should have stood up and said, "I acted hastily in this matter and I made a mistake. I apologize." What a wretched little man.

The problem with that scenario is that he'd have 40 other Senators pissed off at him. And in person, he's even more wretched than you see on TV. Whiney, whiney, whiney.

117 FrogMarch  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:09:52am

Did the democrats raise the money? No.
Who is writing the big checks to charity for 2.1 million?
Harry Reid? NO way.

Only two people are writing those checks.
RUSH LIMBAUGH
&
AND BETTY C.


Simple questions the DNC/MSM cannot and will not answer. The truth hurts them. The truth makes progressives look like cheap lying bastards. They can't have that.

118 Perplexed  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:10:10am

re: #101 elevenbravo1969

Come on Harry Reid. Go on Rush's show. Answer his questions. I promise that Rush will speak real slow and use little words when he questions your patriotism. He will have one hand tied behind his back so as to not take advantage of your diminished mental faculties.

119 Carol Herman  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:11:47am

re: #96 LaMano

re: #90 Carol Herman

He needs to be Daschle'd. Hairy is doing his part. Now the Nevada voters need to close the deal.

Harry's not up for re-election till 2010.

By then? We'll have had a president, not Bush, in the White House for two years.

And, Harry's old. He looks sad. Who says he wouldn't retire, first?

Lots of politicians, when they see the campaigns set out against, them, run away.

LBJ ran back to Texas. (Where Karl Rove came to eat his lunch.)

Nixon was forced to resign.

And, going back a bit, Dwight D. Eisenhower scared the crap out of truman.

This 2008 election will be setting up a playing field for the future.

WHile the entire HOUSE, every two years, needs to go and defend their seats.

I've never watched the show called "survivor" ... but I gather it's popular. And, it involves viewers calling in.

Voting is similar to this. When people get angry enough.

And, while all predictions are less than accurate; I still think, just by the nature of politics, that pelosi, if she's hurting HOUSE MEMBERS from getting re-elected? Can find an exit sign on her majority chair.

Why? It's rented furniture.

120 realwest  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:11:58am

re: #65 The Albatross And for some reason YouTube isn't playing the video for me - I mean, it's on screen, but won't move forward to play!
No big loss, fer shure!

121 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:12:34am

re: #107 Carol Herman

Yeah, but what could we do about it Constitutionally?

122 JammieWearingFool  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:12:57am

The MSM is a total joke. Not even the nutroots Koolaid drinkers would believe the spin from Dingy Harry.

More handwringing today.

Pathetic NY Times laments Democrat failures, whines about propaganda.

123 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:12:59am

re: #115 David IV of Georgia

Ed, nice way to derail the thread. Mohammad is a much more popular name now than Thomas or Andrew. However, I respect both Thomas, Enlightener of India, and Andrew, the First-Called.

On ABC's blog, the comments just tear the story (file under Fiction or Myth and Legends?) to pieces. It's why i no longer watch or read the mainstream media's junk news anymore. It's just too easy to at least do a preliminary fact-check with google or yahoo for them to make such blatant mistakes. Occasionally I will watch or read FoxNews, because they still seem to care about truth, and seem to think their audience aren't little sheeplings (Baaa-aaa-aaa). If I am able to fact-check, grammar-check and spell-check a story in 5 minutes, why can't they? Don't they have interns?

Yes, but their interns can no longer read and think that spell checking something is running the spell checker. Interns these days are really only good for fetching latte.

124 The Albatross  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:13:16am

Netherlands Blogger Mixes it up with the European Mainstream Media?

"Speaking to HonestReporting, Gerstenfeld said:

We hope that people in other countries will follow. "Bad News" is a typical example of how to shift paradigms. We do not spend our time exposing Dutch media distorters or writing letters to their editors. We just take their distorting methods to the extreme on their own country. At the same time we are honest while they are not. We tell upfront that we only publish negative news. I think that as the number of negative items on our website will grow, their cumulative effect will become very powerful. We should however never forget our ultimate goal: to force Dutch society to begin a debate on how many of its leading Dutch media distorts reporting on Israel.

125 wahabicorridor  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:14:04am

re: #106 Cattt


It is ironic that just having editors who take the time to compose half-way decent headlines makes WaPo stand out from the other similar US papers, but it does.

Understood, but one caveat - I used to work at USA Today - the editors didn't write the headlines - they have other people do that.

Happy birthday, Dianna. Um, duck? YUM! Recipes welcome!

126 DoubleU  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:14:04am

re: #81 Perplexed

Could it be an issue with the toxic chemicals found in a modern office causing diminished mental faculties? White out is toxic. Permanent markers are toxic. Laser printers emit ozone. Could it be possible that journalists have ingested far too many of these common office chemicals and suffer from the adverse effects?

No. I went to school with journalism majors, I have worked in television news, it is because they are lazy and have poor in math skills.


Harry Reid went out on the Senate floor at noon when Rush's show was starting hoping Rush wouldn't notice. He then asked people to donate when there was less than an hour to go and the bid was already at 2.1 million. Yea, he did his part. I don't expect Ried to donate at all.

127 Geepers  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:14:30am

Congrats Ed Mahmoud!

128 realwest  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:14:47am

re: #88 lawhawk Up to you, but he's certainly earned it.

129 Ginn  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:15:19am

re: #110 Dianna

Well, I must get back to cleaning house in anticipation of my birthday dinner. Which is more like a birthday lunch.

I am happy to report that it will be duck (the preparation is the job of my Male and our good friends), potatoes anna (it's my birthday, dammit, I'm allowed a few carbs!), and who knows what for desert, but it's bound to be good.

Have a really good day! I know I will.

Happy birthday to me!

Singing "Happy Birthday, Happy Birthday Baby!"

130 FrogMarch  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:16:25am

Who started the Auction on e-bay?

RUSH LIMBAUGH.

the lying MSM make it sound as if the holy and righteous senate democrats started the auction.

the only way democrats are charitable is by raising our taxes and funneling it through one of their bogus libraries or foundations.

131 Ginn  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:16:34am

OT... LGFers!

New Muslim Comic Book Superheros!

The Ninety Nine!

132 Dr. Shalit  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:16:38am

re: #87 secsailor

I think a commenter over at Captains Quaters nailed it on the head with this remark:



The conservative thinks of a free-market way of raising private funds to aid a worthwhile causes and backs his commitment with his own money. The liberal asks other people to donate funds, doesn't donate any of his own money, and tries to take credit for the generosity of others.

secsailor -

Look at it like this - $2,100,100.00 DIVIDED BY 41 = $55,221.95. To the signers of the letter - I would take RUSH up on this - $55,221.95 is DIRT CHEAP atonement - and WAY LESS than what legal fees might be should RUSH decide to sue for potential tortuous interference, likely NOT covered by the "speech and debate" clause.

-S-

133 Geepers  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:16:46am

Sharmuta (#22),

"Very reliable"?

Well my unnamed source who wishes to remain anonymous has a friend close to the administration that says you're wrong. ;-)

134 Catttt  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:16:48am

Related:

As If The New York Times Company Doesn’t Have Enough To Worry About With Its Shares Hitting A 12-Year Low,
Rupert Murdoch Is Making It Very Plain The NYT Is His Primary Target Once He Gets His Hands On The Wall Street Journal
Philip Stone October 19, 2007

With New York Times Company shares hitting a 12-year low Thursday and the general outlook being that Morgan Stanley’s sale of its 7.3% of the company merely solidifies the view of no speedy shares recovery, along comes Rupert Murdoch with his clearest words yet on how he wants the Wall Street Journal to knock the Times off its pedestal as America’s most influential read.

Murdoch, talking at an Internet conference in San Francisco, went into more detail than ever before on how he plans to boost the Journal’s general news coverage. He says he wants to “improve the paper in every way” by investing more not only in its financial reporting, but he wants much more national and international news, and “I want to add major coverage of the arts, fashion, and culture.” Asked if his aim was to “kill” the Times, Murdoch responded, “That would be nice.”

135 wahabicorridor  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:16:55am

re: #124 The Albatross


WHOA! Great link!

136 Perplexed  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:17:25am

re: #126 DoubleU

No. I went to school with journalism majors, I have worked in television news, it is because they are lazy and have poor in math skills.

Well, I did attempt to explain away their poor behavior. Than you for correcting the image I have of of them being whacked out due to office chemicals. They truly are both lazy and stupid (stupid as in unable to learn new things).

137 The Albatross  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:17:33am

re: #134 Cattt

Death nell for the gray lady... you're going down.

138 pat  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:18:18am

re: #131 Ginn

The girls are skimpily clad. Haraam

139 Racer X  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:18:33am

re: #123 galloping granny

Yes, but their interns can no longer read and think that spell checking something is running the spell checker. Interns these days are really only good for fetching latte.


When the facts do not promote their agenda they are intentionally left out or misrepresented. They need to be called on it EVERY time.

The media outlet that distributes false information should be held accountable (more than a retraction on page 6).

140 Carol Herman  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:18:42am

re: #76 DoubleU

Poor math skills is only the tip of the iceberg!

141 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:18:43am

re: #122 JammieWearingFool

The MSM is a total joke. Not even the nutroots Koolaid drinkers would believe the spin from Dingy Harry.

More handwringing today.

Pathetic NY Times laments Democrat failures, whines about propaganda.

Okay Jammie - now you have to come up here and pick me up off the darned floor. I thought I would DIE laughing -

Otherwise, it was a very frustrating week in Washington. It was bad enough having a one-party government when Republicans controlled the White House and both houses of Congress. But the Democrats took over, and still the one-party system continues.

Do these complete idiots even understand what ONE means? Talk about failing at mathematics! This has got to be the single most ludicrous statement I have read in years. If I was grading this paper, it would get a big fat F- for sheer stupidity.

142 realwest  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:18:43am

re: #105 wahabicorridor Actually two of the Marines are suing him and a Federal Court judge has recently ruled that they can sue him, even though he's a sitting member of Congress.

143 pat  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:20:13am

re: #110 Dianna

Well, I must get back to cleaning house in anticipation of my birthday dinner. Which is more like a birthday lunch.

I am happy to report that it will be duck (the preparation is the job of my Male and our good friends), potatoes anna (it's my birthday, dammit, I'm allowed a few carbs!), and who knows what for desert, but it's bound to be good.

Have a really good day! I know I will.

Happy birthday to me!

Happy Birthday. But I said that at the cigar bar last nite.

144 Carol Herman  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:20:19am

re: #20 Jay777

ABC Tries To Credit Democrats For Rush's 2 Million Ebay Letter

Everybody loves a winnah!

145 incommunicado  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:20:37am

A Lizard Baby! Congratulations!

146 Dianna  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:21:19am

re: #125 wahabicorridor

I have to share: It has been determined that we will be having tea-smoked duck.

I will see if my friend will share his recipe.

re: #129 Ginn

Thank you!

Now to go see if the vacuum has decided to work or if it's truly dead this time.

147 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:21:25am

re: #133 Geepers

Heh™.

/TSTMNBN- The Source That Must Not Be Named

148 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:22:01am

re: #146 Dianna

re: #125 wahabicorridor

I have to share: It has been determined that we will be having tea-smoked duck.

I will see if my friend will share his recipe.

re: #129 Ginn

Thank you!

Now to go see if the vacuum has decided to work or if it's truly dead this time.

Lucky girl! Happy birthday.

149 Catttt  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:22:09am

re: #125 wahabicorridor

re: #106 Cattt


It is ironic that just having editors who take the time to compose half-way decent headlines makes WaPo stand out from the other similar US papers, but it does.

Understood, but one caveat - I used to work at USA Today - the editors didn't write the headlines - they have other people do that.

Happy birthday, Dianna. Um, duck? YUM! Recipes welcome!

I must admit I've never read USA Today, but I'm curious - what other people? Did they have designated headline writers? I can't believe editors are too lazy to write headlines - that's often all people read. The headlines today are often straight from AP, but I have a feeling WaPo editors still write the headlines.

I think the problem is the print media still doesn't get that their local audience (a captive audience) is shrinking, and electronic media, when it pulls up one thousand identical headlines, makes them look despensible.

150 realwest  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:22:26am

re: #108 'Nam Grunt
Hey 'Nam! Good to see you again! And Reid is much worse than a POS.
Hope you're doing well!

151 The Albatross  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:22:58am

Who am I kidding, I'm off today... I'm glued to the keyboard.

Dims Petty Political Achievement Screws up US/Turkish Relations... Thanks a Bunch Retards

152 Ginn  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:23:02am

re: #138 pat

re: #131 Ginn

The girls are skimpily clad. Haraam

Great point!

Power Noor Stones Revealed!

153 realwest  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:23:39am

re: #110 Dianna HEY! Happy Birthday to you! And many, many more!

154 Teacake!  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:23:55am

Hugs from me Ed!

155 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:23:56am

Should we take the Democrats' and Harry Reid's taking of credit for the auction and charitable donation as signs that they are planning to make considerable contributions or match funds in this cause? They did use "We". Are they? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

**crickets**

If they were to match funds, although they are still being dishonest about being devastatingly pwn3d* by Limbaugh, I would not have as much trouble with the blatant hypocrisy.


*(pwn3d = owned = severely destroyed/killed in a way to make the victim look confused, stupid and incompetent. Used often in online video games.)

156 wahabicorridor  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:24:20am

re: #146 Dianna

I have to share: It has been determined that we will be having tea-smoked duck.

I will see if my friend will share his recipe.

Oh please oh please oh please!

Screw the vacuum. Just move the furniture.

157 Dianna  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:24:30am

re: #143 pat

Did you? Well, thank you!

P.S. Yes, the vacuum has rung down the curtain and joined the choir eternal.

158 'Nam Grunt  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:26:30am

#150 realwest,

Doing great Bro', I'll reach a milestone Monday I turn 60, still can't believe I made it, course it's still 2 more days. LOLOL

159 Geepers  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:26:54am

Happy Birthday Dianna!

160 Spiny Norman  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:27:11am
This is why the MSM’s reputation is in the tank. They’re nothing but lazy shills for the left wing.

How long did it take for the MSM to even grudgingly admit the 60 Minutes TANG memos might be bogus?

161 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:27:48am

re: #123 galloping granny

re: #115 David IV of Georgia

Ed, nice way to derail the thread. Mohammad is a much more popular name now than Thomas or Andrew. However, I respect both Thomas, Enlightener of India, and Andrew, the First-Called.

On ABC's blog, the comments just tear the story (file under Fiction or Myth and Legends?) to pieces. It's why i no longer watch or read the mainstream media's junk news anymore. It's just too easy to at least do a preliminary fact-check with google or yahoo for them to make such blatant mistakes. Occasionally I will watch or read FoxNews, because they still seem to care about truth, and seem to think their audience aren't little sheeplings (Baaa-aaa-aaa). If I am able to fact-check, grammar-check and spell-check a story in 5 minutes, why can't they? Don't they have interns?

Yes, but their interns can no longer read and think that spell checking something is running the spell checker. Interns these days are really only good for fetching latte.

Yew mien thee spiel checker Cannes bee wrong?

162 realwest  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:28:07am

re: #133 Geepers ROLFLMAO! Good one!

163 BeerForMyHorses  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:28:46am

re: #93 Irene NYC

Unfortunately, a lot of people just don't want to know what's going on in the world. It makes them feel too vulnerable. So they tune into the nightly news or the local news (if they do that at all). There Bush and/or conservatives in general are made the convenient scapegoat for all the ills of the planet. It's easier to sleep at night thinking that everything will be alright if we just elect a Democrat than contemplating the complexities of the issues. I think many people would wise up if they had the facts, but, if you try to inform them, they get quite uncomfortable and either fall back on bumper-sticker, sound-bite quips or change the subject.

164 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:29:06am

re: #157 Dianna

re: #143 pat

Did you? Well, thank you!

P.S. Yes, the vacuum has rung down the curtain and joined the choir eternal.

My favorite aunt, who was prone to throw parties for 300 all by herself and stay in the pool until 30 minutes before they arrived always saved nearly all of the cleaning till after the party on the theory that as long as the kitchen seemed clean and the bathroom was clean, one drink and nobody would notice anything else.

165 Catttt  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:29:06am

Will you people quit using words like vacuum and laundry? ? ?

/eyes vacuum. eyes laundry. Sighs.

166 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:29:48am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

8 lbs, 3 0z. Thomas Andrew

Excellent news, congratulations!

/damn shame it was post #2, that would have been an excellent first...

167 Geepers  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:29:50am

David IV of Georgia (#161),

You're comment make's no cents.

168 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:30:12am

re: #161 David IV of Georgia

re: #123 galloping granny

re: #115 David IV of Georgia

Ed, nice way to derail the thread. Mohammad is a much more popular name now than Thomas or Andrew. However, I respect both Thomas, Enlightener of India, and Andrew, the First-Called.On ABC's blog, the comments just tear the story (file under Fiction or Myth and Legends?) to pieces. It's why i no longer watch or read the mainstream media's junk news anymore. It's just too easy to at least do a preliminary fact-check with google or yahoo for them to make such blatant mistakes. Occasionally I will watch or read FoxNews, because they still seem to care about truth, and seem to think their audience aren't little sheeplings (Baaa-aaa-aaa). If I am able to fact-check, grammar-check and spell-check a story in 5 minutes, why can't they? Don't they have interns?

Yes, but their interns can no longer read and think that spell checking something is running the spell checker. Interns these days are really only good for fetching latte.

Yew mien thee spiel checker Cannes bee wrong?

Some times eat is write hear!

169 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:30:50am

re: #165 Cattt

Will you people quit using words like vacuum and laundry? ? ?

/eyes vacuum. eyes laundry. Sighs.

Perhaps that's just our way of saying laundry sucks?...

/ba-dum-dum...

170 Spiny Norman  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:31:22am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

Congrats to Mamma and Poppa!

Woohoo!

171 wahabicorridor  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:31:32am

re: #149 Cattt

what other people? Did they have designated headline writers? I can't believe editors are too lazy to write headlines

Yeah - there are different kinds of editors - copy editors being the lowest level I believe, who will come up with an initial headline, then the page/section editor can change it. The copy editor checks for length, clarity, etc., but doesn't get final say. At least that's the way it was at USA Today - this was back in the late '80s - early 90s. I wasn't part of the newsroom operation, I was a software developer, but we were always given orientations about different aspects of the paper and all the head honchos - Cathy Black, etc., were very open to answering questions during casual encounters, e.g., elevators. It was a fun place to work, most of the people were terrific. I was there during the first Gulf War - talk about adreneline.

172 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:32:50am

This reminds me of the time Dinner Jacket took British sailors hostage and then released them as an "Easter present." He probably also considered himself a "great conciliator" at the time.

173 jcm  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:33:13am

re: #165 Cattt

Will you people quit using words like vacuum and laundry? ? ?

/eyes vacuum. eyes laundry. Sighs.

Mr. Mom today, vacuum, laundry and cook meals for the week, with 3 munchkins.

Ahhh! the life of the domesticated male of the species.

174 Ginn  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:33:25am

Dianna

Vacuum? Good Lord..

*Don't forget to mop!

Happy Birthday, Dianna

175 Carol Herman  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:33:25am

re: #121 Sharmuta

re: #107 Carol Herman

Yeah, but what could we do about it Constitutionally?

Not sure on what you want to know.

But my post referred to the demise, ahead, of the NY Times.

And, when businesses fail, way back in 1929, Winston Churchill was in America; touring. And, he was a journalist then. Writing for a living. (He used to haul in $3-million a year.)

And, he spoke about the October CRASH. He said "in any other country, the government would have collapsed." In America, however, where greed is not controlled by government diktat, all America does, is "go in and clean up the mess."

FDR did that. He found ways to put millions of men to work. Which is the problem that occurs when you have a massive Depression.

As to our brilliant Constitution, you will be able to vote, ahead.

It's good to know, too, that our Constitution doesn't support factions; as much as it supports "consensus." Something extremists lose sight of.

Perhaps, another way of stating this fact is to say lots of Americans are dissatisfied with Bush. As well as with the democratic party. So there's more than the usual interest in who is going to be nominated, in 2008.

A long time, ago. In 1860. The country also divided up. Into fighting factions. Lincoln knew this. He was NOT a favorite candidate at the republican party's entry into politics. But he understood enough about people, to know he had a well-honed, and reasoned public persona.

He actually, once nominated, just stayed home. And, let others campaign for him.

Stephen Douglas was the democratic nominee. And, the first one to visit every single district, searching for votes. And, he got spat upon when he went down south.

There's no reasoning with extremists. Not then. Not now.

So the 2008 election is shaping up where the MAINSTREAM has enough power to scare the pants off the insiders, who make decisions. They surely don't want another Tom Dewey!

As to Rush. He did the best thing he could with Reid's letter. He went public. He found a way the public would pay attention. eBay. The bidding started low. When I heard it, the amount of the bid was at $45. Then, suddenly, Rush was on the Internet (with links to ABC), saying "when he left his office on Friday, the bidding was up into the $800,000 range.)

From there? This story took off!

In the most American way possible!

Rush is an absolute genius. He understands radio. His audience. And, what fell into his lap.

Reid, however, had no clue.

That's why a "backwards look" into how that letter got composed, would be very, very funny.

176 realwest  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:33:47am

re: #158 'Nam GruntAh hell, you'll make it! And an early Happy Birthday to you my friend! And here's a gift for you - a radio station that plays through your computer and plays songs from our era, called Radio Vietnam Link is: [Link: www.live365.com...]

177 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:34:30am

Also, did Slimeball Harry ever mention Betty Casey by name and thank her? Doesn't seem so.

/with sincere apologies to all honest and hard working balls of slime for insulting them

178 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:36:20am

re: #167 Geepers

David IV of Georgia (#161),

You're comment make's no cents.

I was with a group of professors somewhere and there was a poster, professionally printed and produced that had several such errors. We agreed with the sentiment of the poster, a tribute to the victims of 9/11. But if I remember correctly it had a their/there/they're, a thrown/throne and some other spell-checker errors in it. We laughed. If I ever teach, I think I would count off double for such spelling errors.

179 jcm  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:36:44am

re: #177 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican

Why Dingy is the genius who thought up the scheme, he's the one who will deduct 4.2 mil on his taxes.
/

180 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:38:21am

re: #178 David IV of Georgia

I left out a comma! How will I live with myself?

181 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:40:31am

re: #178 David IV of Georgia

re: #167 Geepers

David IV of Georgia (#161),

You're comment make's no cents.

I was with a group of professors somewhere and there was a poster, professionally printed and produced that had several such errors. We agreed with the sentiment of the poster, a tribute to the victims of 9/11. But if I remember correctly it had a their/there/they're, a thrown/throne and some other spell-checker errors in it. We laughed. If I ever teach, I think I would count off double for such spelling errors.

You really want carpal tunnel, don't you?

182 Carol Herman  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:40:35am

What about Hillary?

I think in a way she's like Richard Nixon.

Back in 1968, living in Brooklyn, NY, I had no idea I'd wake up and hear that Nixon won the presidency.

Even though, back in 1968, things got very dicey.

The democrats were all in a dither. LBJ "lost" in New Hampshire. To Gene McCarthy (I think.) He was just a "college professor." But that primary sent LBJ back to Texas.

Gene McCarthy got bumped off the stage by an insider; Hubert Humphrey.

Not a very exciting time for democrats, at all.

And, other than the elites, "who couldn't imagine Nixon winning," (per Pauline Kael, of the New Yorker Magazine, "because none of her friends voted for him.) He won.

Take it from there.

Because by now you know about the FBI's chicanery. And, how unpopular Nixon became.

Those are TWO PRONGS. Both need to be counted.

Jimmy Carter then beat out Gerald Ford. And, then? Reagan. The opportunity came for him to step into the center ring. And, win.

Sounds easy when you pull stuff together from history. But like individual battles; if you're in them, you remember the events; with "fear and loathing."

183 squarepeg  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:41:50am

Ed, the best to your wife and you! Little Thomas Andrew is in loving arms.

Dianna, happy birthday!

184 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:42:15am

Look how offended Reuters is for Dingy being called Dingy! I think they should read Emperor Misha's characterization of Dingy:

If douchebaggery were an Olympic event, your mere announcement that you intended to participate would be more than enough reason for the other contestants to simply stay at home and forfeit, for not even with their combined best efforts, no matter how despicably, singularly vile and repulsive they were could they ever possibly get within a lightyear of your colossally offensive fuckheadedness.

If being an oozing, painful chancre on humanity were a religion, you’d be the Grand Poobah of it. Cathedrals would be built and named after you and all other deities would resign in disgust, rather than risk ever being mentioned in the same sentence as you.

There is no organism so repulsive, so filthy, so abominable, so utterly foul that I wouldn’t rather french kiss it for hours on end than ever shake your hand, no lifeform so loathsome that I wouldn’t rather stuff it in my pants and have wild, uninhibited sex with it than ever be caught looking at you with anything more sympathetic than utter disgust.

You are a cancer upon the body politic in dire need of radiation therapy, a pathetic, useless waste of DNA, a sack of wrinkled skin so utterly bereft of redeeming features that your presence on the planet would give an alien race just cause should they desire to wipe us all out just to be safe, and anybody voting for you or your party are no different.

From [Link: www.nicedoggie.net...]

185 Carol Herman  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:42:45am

re: #178 David IV of Georgia

Worthless to Charles, though. You're not "teaching" here ...

And, the idea that some posters, by ridiculing others for whatever reason, actually have any powers, is nuts.

The "in crowd." Just like Dan Rather had Mary Mapes. It shut out the good stuff. Just a broken pipe, in the chain of information.

186 Catttt  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:44:42am

re: #163 BeerForMyHorses

re: #93 Irene NYC

Unfortunately, a lot of people just don't want to know what's going on in the world. It makes them feel too vulnerable. So they tune into the nightly news or the local news (if they do that at all). There Bush and/or conservatives in general are made the convenient scapegoat for all the ills of the planet. It's easier to sleep at night thinking that everything will be alright if we just elect a Democrat than contemplating the complexities of the issues. I think many people would wise up if they had the facts, but, if you try to inform them, they get quite uncomfortable and either fall back on bumper-sticker, sound-bite quips or change the subject.

And people tend to expect people to fall in to neat cubby holes. I know I personally do a lot to bust those bubbles for people who know me, because I totally don't walk or quack like their idea of someone who votes to the right. I've had to tell one leftie friend twice that NO, I am not a leftie. He just can't believe it.

Also, the NY Times is a great topic to bring up with people, because people know what the NY Times is and also often know that they are screwing up badly. It's a great wedge issue with people I know, because many are in finance and know how awful the management is at the NY Times.

I've found that 99 out of 100 average people have no clue who, for example, Code Pink is or even who Cindy Sheehan is, but they do know about the NY Times.

187 Catttt  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:45:43am

re: #169 christheprofessor

re: #165 Cattt


Will you people quit using words like vacuum and laundry? ? ?

/eyes vacuum. eyes laundry. Sighs.


Perhaps that's just our way of saying laundry sucks?...

/ba-dum-dum...

Obligatory groan. :) (I suggested to Charles that he add a groan button...)

188 Malleus Dei  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:47:28am

"This is why the MSM’s reputation is in the tank. They’re nothing but lazy shills for the left wing."

This is why we have learned to never, ever trust the MSM. When they're not pushing Leftism deliberately - which is, frankly, most of the time - then they're almost always either wrong or lying (cf. Rathergate, etc.)

The MSM's supposed job is just to report facts. Instead, the MSM has chosen to be passionate advocates for Leftism, and they just can't understand the fact that their unethical, unprofessional choice to do that is why their newspapers are now failing, why half of America get its news from anywhere but them (and why so many people have learned to never believe them about anything), and why Rush and the rest of honest talk radio is so popular.

189 Catttt  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:47:31am

re: #178 David IV of Georgia

re: #167 Geepers


David IV of Georgia (#161),

You're comment make's no cents.


I was with a group of professors somewhere and there was a poster, professionally printed and produced that had several such errors. We agreed with the sentiment of the poster, a tribute to the victims of 9/11. But if I remember correctly it had a their/there/they're, a thrown/throne and some other spell-checker errors in it. We laughed. If I ever teach, I think I would count off double for such spelling errors.

I see so much bad writing (incoming) every day that I'm used to it, but my favorite line is this one:

I'm loosing my patients!

190 christheprofessor  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:51:09am

re: #187 Cattt

O know ewe di'int!

191 Richard Romano  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:52:43am
They’re nothing but lazy shills for the left wing.

An astute specification of what is wrong with the modern MSM.

192 Dianna  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:53:52am

Thank you all so much for your birthday wishes! I hugely appreciate it.

The score is now, officially, Chelsea (my very furry mutt) 3, vacuums 0.

The mysterious blue smoke has risen, and this is one dead vacuum.

Hello, Sears.

193 DoubleU  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:54:03am

re: #186 Cattt


Also, the NY Times is a great topic to bring up with people, because people know what the NY Times is and also often know that they are screwing up badly.

Before the 2004 election I was waiting for a plane and these two women were sitting across from me, one was reading some magazine and the other was reading the New York Times, I figured I would get stuck next to them on the plane and they would talk non-stop about the evil right and George Bush. The woman finally folded the paper up and turned to the other woman and said, "It is amazing how they can get away with printing these lies." The other woman agreed. I laughed to myself.

194 squarepeg  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:56:11am

But when is the MSM really, really going to die?

None of it is going away -- the lousy morning jabber, the evening broadcast, the NY Times, the LA Times. They're losing money and audience, but they still give the all-important impression of being rich and smart and huge. And even if they do lose money, they are owned by or partnered with media conglomerates that have plenty of cash from entertainment wings or whatever to prop them up.

Who would argue that they're probably doing Hillary a lot of good? They're still influential.

When oh when will they DIE?

195 Bobblehead  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:57:09am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

8 lbs, 3 0z. Thomas Andrew

Congratulations Daddy!

196 galloping granny  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 10:59:45am

re: #185 Carol Herman

re: #178 David IV of Georgia

Worthless to Charles, though. You're not "teaching" here ...

And, the idea that some posters, by ridiculing others for whatever reason, actually have any powers, is nuts.

The "in crowd." Just like Dan Rather had Mary Mapes. It shut out the good stuff. Just a broken pipe, in the chain of information.

What the heck are you attacking him for? The entire conversation had nothing whatever to do with you.

197 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 11:02:35am

re: #185 Carol Herman

re: #178 David IV of Georgia

Worthless to Charles, though. You're not "teaching" here ...

And, the idea that some posters, by ridiculing others for whatever reason, actually have any powers, is nuts.

The "in crowd." Just like Dan Rather had Mary Mapes. It shut out the good stuff. Just a broken pipe, in the chain of information.

The poster in question was hanging on a wall in an Arby's, not a person on the internet. I generally ignore misspellings and grammar errors on the internet. Many people have great ideas but for whatever reason have spelling and grammar errors. I only make jokes about those whom I know are in the professional or educational position to know better. A journalist should be able to spell and use proper grammar. Sometimes I, either from laziness or purposefulness, use bad grammar and mispellings.

198 Dustoff-507  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 11:02:39am

Nam Grunt..
Dude you turned 60? Gezzz your old.

/ time to duck...

Congrats sir.

PS Hey Ed you a new daddy... YEAH BABY!

199 Spiny Norman  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 11:03:03am

re: #194 squarepeg

But when is the MSM really, really going to die?

None of it is going away -- the lousy morning jabber, the evening broadcast, the NY Times, the LA Times. They're losing money and audience, but they still give the all-important impression of being rich and smart and huge. And even if they do lose money, they are owned by or partnered with media conglomerates that have plenty of cash from entertainment wings or whatever to prop them up.

Who would argue that they're probably doing Hillary a lot of good? They're still influential.

When oh when will they DIE?

Never. The MSM is far too valuable to the Democratic Party.

200 mama winger  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 11:05:11am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

8 lbs, 3 0z. Thomas Andrew

Way to go ED ! ! !

Congratulations - and God's richest blessings on your whole family!

201 mama winger  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 11:08:57am

Thomas Andrew

2 fine apostles

Go with God, little one...

202 HippieforLife  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 11:09:07am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

Congratulations!

203 Sharmuta  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 11:11:49am

re: #185 Carol Herman

I'm going to post leepro's comment from last night, and, if you'd please, change the names when you read it to say David IV of Georgia and Geepers. Please take special note when leepro says, "understand that LGF does not revolve around you."

Thanks.

204 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 11:13:00am

re: #201 mama winger

Thomas Andrew

2 fine apostles

Go with God, little one...

Thomas and Andrew were both jooos. The murk surrounding the global zionist conspiracy thickens...

205 HippieforLife  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 11:24:17am

Of course the good folks at Huffpo see this as a big PR stunt by Rush! They just don't get it that he did not write the letter, but 41 of our United States Senators did. They were the ones trying to stifle free speech.

Everyday the left becomes more divorced from reality. I can't believe that is even possible, but I guess they have proved me wrong.

206 DistantThunder  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 11:26:01am

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

8 lbs, 3 0z. Thomas Andrew

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

8 lbs, 3 0z. Thomas Andrew

Congrats to the proud parents - DT - Mom of 7

207 DistantThunder  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 11:27:00am

re: #205 HippieforLife

Of course the good folks at Huffpo see this as a big PR stunt by Rush! They just don't get it that he did not write the letter, but 41 of our United States Senators did. They were the ones trying to stifle free speech.

Everyday the left becomes more divorced from reality. I can't believe that is even possible, but I guess they have proved me wrong.

Should have called it the "Democrats Abusing Power" letter

208 DistantThunder  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 11:28:07am

re: #199 Spiny Norman

re: #194 squarepeg

But when is the MSM really, really going to die?

None of it is going away -- the lousy morning jabber, the evening broadcast, the NY Times, the LA Times. They're losing money and audience, but they still give the all-important impression of being rich and smart and huge. And even if they do lose money, they are owned by or partnered with media conglomerates that have plenty of cash from entertainment wings or whatever to prop them up.

Who would argue that they're probably doing Hillary a lot of good? They're still influential.

When oh when will they DIE?

Never. The MSM is far too valuable to the Democratic Party.

Go on an entertainment and media diet and deprive them of their resources

209 Q-Burn  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 11:40:43am

re: #208 DistantThunder

The MSM will never die, just slowly grow more irrelevant each year. You can still write letters and travel by train, but few do any more.

Limbaugh Spins Reid's Charity Letter Into Gold is #1 most viewed article at the WaPo.

210 Q-Burn  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 11:42:25am

re: #209 Q-Burn

"Letter Into Charity Gold" that is...

211 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 11:48:50am

re: #209 Q-Burn

re: #208 DistantThunder

The MSM will never die, just slowly grow more irrelevant each year. You can still write letters and travel by train, but few do any more.

Limbaugh Spins Reid's Charity Letter Into Gold is #1 most viewed article at the WaPo.

Fox had more or less the same thing about the evil letter turned to good on its website yesterday.

If the MSM ever is actually in its death throes, democrats will either make non-mainstream media illegal or regulated or give the MSM money to ward off bankruptcy.

212 Q-Burn  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 11:51:03am

re: #211 David IV of Georgia

Hey, they do it for AMTRAK.

213 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 12:01:45pm

re: #212 Q-Burn

re: #211 David IV of Georgia

Hey, they do it for AMTRAK.

Yeah, but trains I kinda like. But they never will compete with aircraft unless we subsidize them much greater than we already do. Until then, AMTRAK is a novelty—too slow and too expensive.

214 Q-Burn  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 12:07:43pm

"Too slow and too expensive" also describes that lump of dead tree that still shows up in my driveway. If it wasn't for the ads inserts and coupons, the death of newspapers would be much farther along.

215 Carol Herman  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 12:13:14pm

re: #211 David IV of Georgia

The MSM in death throws?

Heck, history is replete with examples of journalism skewed to audience preferences.

Even Lincoln, lucky enough to have journalists taking advantage of the TELEGRAPH; that his debates with Douglas were not only well attended, they got NATIONAL ATTENTION.

To compile the debates, Lincoln, himself, got his hands on every paper that published the debates. BOTH SIDES. From this he extrapolated what he thought actually happened. And, prior to publishing the portfolio of debates, he brought his manuscript to Stephen Douglas. He told him to make any corrections, necessary.

Since you had reports from papers that were skewed towards democrats. And, others towards southerners. And, others towards conservatives.

I don't think Douglas changed much. If anything at all.

But Lincoln was smart enough to know, once he got the republican nomination, to stay HOME. In those days the press was egging on politicians with booby traps. Larding their stories with abolitionists "talking points." Which was NOT popular! Not anywhere, except with the most radical. And, least likely EVER to get elected, people around.

Since Lincoln decided going on the campaign trail was counter-productive, he stayed HOME. (Others, however, went out to campaign for him. Including his "rivals." He then sat his rivals inside his cabinet.)

Here? The NY Times is telling a unique story. Replete with bad business decisions. Including the "firewall" that was put in the way of its most famous writers. LOWERING the value on those people, because their words got buried behind this wall.

Then? The biggest mistake so far was to diss Morgan-Stanley, when as a 20% stakeholder in the stock, they wanted to have VOTING RIGHTS. Pinch managed to keep this limited to his family.

Morgan-Stanley just dumped their shares. ($168-million's worth.)

This is what's gonna make the NY Times fail.

Morgan-Stanley has "put a price" on the NY Times, matching a fire sale.

The MSM, however, is broad enough. That at some point Pinch has to lose what he's currently holding. And, then? Someone else will gobble this up?

Hey! Maybe, the saud's! They're not out of money! They're just out of brains. When it comes to investing.

Not that anyone can foretell what happens in the future.

I do remember, once, reading the description of the BEST a CEO can be. It wasn't in a company that was growing. There, you could have a money in the executive suite. What's going up, has it's own momentum.

The description of the best CEO in the business, is one who can take over a company that's going downhill. And, stop the slide. Now, that, takes genius.

Geniuses aren't a dime a dozen. Hard to find, actually. Among the heaps of standard crap. In the pile of hacks.

216 Carol Herman  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 12:21:40pm

re: #125 wahabicorridor

Writing headlines is an artform, onto itself.

The role of the headline is to GRAB the reader! Columns of words just don't do that.

And, sometimes? A headline can be a thing of beauty.

There's a journalism joke. About a complaint an editor had on the headline covering the story of a lunatic, who escaped the asylum. And, raped a woman.

No matter what headline was submitted, the editor kept growling angrily. His biggest complaint? The headline was too long.

So, it was changed to: NUT. BOLTS. And, SCREWS.

Editors, by the way, are known for their political in-fighting skills.

They are NOT known as writers! That's why Murphy's Law takes over.

Meanwhile, to people familiar with Matt Drudge's story; he used to deliver newspapers as a boy. But he'd stop, during his "rounds" ... and, actually sit on a park bench. Appalled at the headlines. Rewriting them.

That's why his site is run by himself. And, it's so very readable.

You think the blogosphere ain't a clogged environment?

Not for the few who become a daily stop for most people.

217 Carol Herman  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 12:24:18pm

re: #155 David IV of Georgia

With all the words spilling forward about REID, very little pertains to his FIASCO.

As if he's escaped the irony of how his letter FAILED.

And, now?

Thanks to Rush, it's a very well known fact.

218 Carol Herman  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 12:28:49pm

re: #126 DoubleU

Timing is everything!

219 Shaky Louie  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 12:34:57pm

re: #2 Ed mahmoud abu al Kahoul

8 lbs, 3 0z. Thomas Andrew


Drink!

220 BingoBunny  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 12:35:36pm

the MSM is just unpaid whores and bagmen for the Demorats.

221 Carol Herman  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 12:40:21pm

re: #188 Malleus Dei

I dunno. When your boat is sinking, "lazy" isn't the first word that would come to my mind, in explaining desperation. And, a desire "not to go down with the ship."re: #197 David IV of Georgia

When people PAY YOU, then you've got to "worry" about your spelling!

Plus, one of the nicest things about the English language is how open it is to change.

Heck, if you've ever seen letters from the past; you'd be surprised how "fluid" spellings were. Dr. Johnson tried to fix that with a dictionary.

But dictionaries constantly get updated.

Usage, it seems, has a way of filtering through.

Here, by the way, there is a small crowd that thinks they've been here a long time. So they go out of their way to ding others, when they post.

Stupid is. As stupid does.

When Charles pays people to "monitor" for him, let me know.

As to my Dan Rather reference? The man took a 40 year career; lived in an environment protected from outsiders. And, look what happened to him?

Here's a clue. In a better informed environment he wouldn't have gone with "fake but accurate." Not that he understood either typewriters, or secretarial work.

Catching the error, hover, exposed him.

Sure. No one paid Charles Johnson to do it.

But the Net is wider than any other form of "checking" you can do.

When applied wisely, it works.

When "some" think they've got weapons? They're just jerks.

222 David IV of Georgia  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 1:12:18pm

re: #221 Carol Herman

In personal writing, I often use archaisms, obsolete spellings and words and such. So if you see me spell this or that as "þi∫" or "ðæt" ignore me, I'm just being eccentric and not trying to seriously communicate. However, when I am trying to communicate to others, I try to use language that gets ideas across to my audience.

As none of us here are being paid nor working as journalists, the only real standard is being able to back one's positions with reliable references or conceding that the statement is just an opinion (and keeping Charles' rules).

I've heard comments on LGF that some people just lurk because they are afraid that their lack of language and spelling skills will be made fun of. If they have something to say I wish they would post anyway. There is always some nut who will get out of sorts if something is spelled rwong and you don't bother to spel-chek. Ignore such childishness or take it as genuine help—but post regardless.

I've only been here a month or so myself.

223 HolmWrecker  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 2:24:20pm

re: #222 David IV of Georgia

re: #221 Carol Herman


I've heard comments on LGF that some people just lurk because they are afraid that their lack of language and spelling skills will be made fun of. If they have something to say I wish they would post anyway. There is always some nut who will get out of sorts if something is spelled rwong and you don't bother to spel-chek. Ignore such childishness or take it as genuine help—but post regardless.

I've only been here a month or so myself.

Guilty as charged. While I love to read, I have a hard time articulating myself. Over time I've learned that most every time I want to say something here about a subject, some one else said it better already.
The folks that post here in general are extremely sharp and use plenty of common sense. Things figure out pretty easy when one uses common sense.

On topic: The libs know no bounds now. It amazes me that people still believe the crap from the MSM. Sheeple.
Take all of the dems' collective brains and put them inside a flea's head and it would look like a B-B in a boxcar. Sickening.
Give 'em hell, Rushbo.

224 Jim C.  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 2:26:56pm

Giving the Dems credit for the fundraiser is like giving pedophile murderers credit for Megan's Law.

Dems and ABC are completely evil scum.

225 beaumandy  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 2:59:33pm

This is a great example of how the lib media simply lies and distorts reality. With this Rush - Dingy Harry story, many of us have been watching the events play out since the original phone call came in where the term " phony soldiers " came into play.

From that point we watched the Democrats and their buds at Media Matters try and smear Rush by taking his words totally out of context. We then saw Harry Reid trot out his pathetic letter that he had signed by 40 other Dem Senators. We saw the letter sent to Clear Channel.

We then saw Rush put it on Ebay as a way to mock Reid and also generate big money for a great charity.

So in the end, we KNOW the story. We have been watching it play out ringside. Yet here is the lib media telling us a totally different version of what we have been watching for the last 2 weeks.

Screw them and anyone who is stupid enough to believe a single word they say at this point.

226 Dad O' Blondes  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 3:07:15pm

From one dad to another: congrats Ed, and I hope mom and baby are well.

An old American Indian saying on raising small children:

Long Days, Short Years.

That's for sure. They grow up all too fast.

227 lilliew  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 3:22:40pm

And despite me pointing out all these stories and the actual transcripts and unedited audio of what Rush said and how Media Matters was selectively covering it, I have a friend that still won't believe that Rush didn't call soldiers who disagree with the war as phony soldiers. They would rather believe the out of context quote because if fits their mindset that Rush (and conservatives) are pompous extreme whackos that label and call names of anyone that disagrees with them. How can these people be this blind?

228 leepro  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 3:47:43pm

This is a comment from yesterday's thread on this topic ("Reuters Notices Rush Limbaugh...")

re: #490 anotherindyfilmguy

When the steam is completely gone from this issue Rushbo should revive it by filing slander and libel lawsuits left and right against everyone who has lied about the whole deal. Not so much to make money, he could settle for attorneys' fees etc, but to force public retractions and further humiliate the nitwits who are blatantly wrong... just a thought...

I think it is an extremely appealing idea. Slander and libel are very serious offenses, especially when committed by elected officials against a private citizen! And why not for the money? I would predict another huge donation to a worthy military-focused charity!

Unfortunately, I do not see Rush doing this, but oh, how I wish he would ! ! !

229 Wind Rider  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 4:08:22pm

MSM, lazy? Yeah, pretty much. Not the sharpest tools in the shed, either. The observation earlier that J-school majors were there because they're bad at math (and most likely science as well), and J-school is a fairly easy path to a degree pretty well square with most of the examples of buffoonery we see highlighted on a daily basis.

A couple of personal anecdotes.

I've got an uncle that used to work for Nasa, at the Kennedy Space Center. he often relates that several of the 'top' TV journos covering the space program back in the 60's/70's (not to mention names, but Jules Bergman was his favorite...not) were basically blithering idiots parroting lines fed them by their producers of lifted directly from NASA materials - heaven forbid they should have to answer any unplanned or related follow up questions or topics on any given subject, because any time they did, what came out of their cake holes was usually blithering idiocy...and as such was avoided as much as absolutely possible.

Another example...

Had a chance to attend a Daniel Pipes appearance up in Richmond a couple of years back, at the invitation of Meryl Yourish. Great talk by Pipes, even included the typically childish and obnoxious semi-insane pro-Palistinian slogan yelling and walkout by several 'students'. Afterward, Meryl and I happened across a kid from the local J-program that had drawn the lecture coverage as an assignment for the local school rag - we were both absolutely amazed at the level of manufactured disdain, distraction, boredom, and non-interest in actually covering the event this kid radiated. from our brief discussion with him, he barely knew who Pipes was, had no background grasp (although in his favor he hadn't pre-formed an opinion - quite possibly because the only opinion he had was wether he was going to use his bong, or twist up a fatty once he got the heck outta the event) of events in the middle east, most likely because he'd probably have had a really hard time locating it on a map. Wouldn't be surprised in the least if he's a "highly valued team member" of a really crackerjack fact-checking support staff at some mid-circulation publication of some sort. That is, if he didn't find personal fulfillment in the fast food industry along the way.

230 Paul  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 5:43:36pm

My local "newspaper", the Milwaukee Journal printed the NY Times article
in today's edition on page 3. The article was somewhat abridged but it repeated the lies about what Rush said and Reid's response to the auction of the letter.

Unfortunately, most Americans will hear or read only the MSM version of the "truth" about this incident, and so another lie will take root.

231 negativ  Sat, Oct 20, 2007 9:55:08pm

Who gives a crap about Rush Limbaugh anyway? This is about half a notch away from obsessing over Britney Spears' latest cooch flashing episode.

232 DoubleU  Sun, Oct 21, 2007 6:06:54am

re: #214 Q-Burn

"Too slow and too expensive" also describes that lump of dead tree that still shows up in my driveway. If it wasn't for the ads inserts and coupons, the death of newspapers would be much farther along.

And if wasn't for bulk mail and ads the death of the post office would already be here.


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