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Ted Rall: Only Idiots Die in Iraq, US IQ Soars

Thu, Oct 25, 2007 at 9:12:35 am PDT

Here’s a look into the squirmy, ugly mind of Ted Rall, whose latest cartoon about US troops in Iraq says: “Only idiots signed up; only idiots died. Back home, the average I.Q. soared.”

(Hat tip: LGF readers.)

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1 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:14:26am

I'm just gonna delete myself & save Charles the trouble.

2 EC Marm  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:14:34am

[self deleted]

3 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:14:39am

He has issues.

4 Roger  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:14:44am

With respect to the direction Ted Rall's IQ is going I can see why he imagines the IQ is swiftly soaring around him.

5 Osama Bin PorkChop  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:14:53am

There is a special place in Hell for Ted Rall...

6 Milk Toast Intolerant  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:15:22am

Ted Rall's double digit negative IQ is dragging me down, man...

7 debutaunt  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:16:13am

Oh goodie. A newer higher level on the stupid evil chart.

8 aunursa  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:16:24am

9/11 widows, Pat Tillman, Ronald Reagan, Condi Rice, now all American soldiers. Who's next?

9 Pullus Iulius  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:16:52am

re: #5 Osama Bin PorkChop

There is a special place in Hell for Ted Rall...

Can't get there soon enough, if you ask me.

10 Dead Sea Squirrel  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:16:52am

Makes Kos seem classy.

11 Rogue198  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:16:59am

Well, I feel the same way about the US IQ when liberal traitors such as Rall flee to Canada.

12 Tenacious  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:17:03am

Ok read my last post where I mention refrain. Ted Rall definitely deserves a good ass kicking.

13 children of iluvatar  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:17:13am

this is just subversive.

14 Pyrocles  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:17:51am

This cartoon could be seen as sarcasm, if it wasn't "drawn" by Rall.

15 jetprop  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:18:28am

Ted Rall..
delted..bleep..deleted..expletive!..delted..

16 BusinessGuy  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:18:34am

His words speak for themselves. We didn't need the pictures. Gives him too much credit.

Maybe some of the creative Lizard Army can produce a tasteful, yet intellectually mature, satirical rendition of his cartoon...?

17 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:18:50am

Rall seethes for attention, so he posts crapulence like this.

I see. A person who feels honor bound to fight for his country and take up the call to arms is an idiot. Someone who dies in Iraq fighting for a just cause is an idiot.

Right. Gotcha.

Rall, you are a reprehensible, sad, little man, who wouldn't know honor and duty if it hit you upside the head.

18 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:18:55am

His column this week was also particularly endearing.

Few Gold Star mothers tell him off. Those who do are polite to the man who murdered their children as surely and as viciously as if he'd shot them himself. Why don't they spit at him?
19 christheprofessor  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:18:55am

Fuck.Ted.Rall.

He's not worth the urine it would take to put him out if he were on fire.

20 Golem Akbar  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:19:05am

Rall makes it clear how the left thinks: they are smarter, more creative, and probably better looking than others. But reading Sartre? Are leftists just Francophiles? If so, then that explains the Kerry vote. And loss.

21 Hard Right  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:19:17am

Hey Ted I dare you to claim credit for that in a bar full of Marines.

22 lostlakehiker  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:19:25am

Notice that when liberals let their guard down, they sound pretty eugenicist. Of course, Rall doesn't know anything about the science of intelligence or heritability, he doesn't know anything about the intelligence of the soldiers in Iraq, and he doesn't know anything about the average number of children born to those who volunteer for the armed services, or how that compares to the overall average for Americans.

Not knowing squat about squat doesn't deter him from touching the Third Rail with a solid copper ladder, though.

23 zombie  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:20:09am

If you were to go back and look at the propaganda in WWII put out by Lord Haw-Haw and Tokyo Rose, it would be indistinguishable from the "creative output" of Ted Rall (and his ilk).

He is literally on the other side.

24 MattMacD  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:20:26am

Pretty much exemplifies the "progressives'" view of themselves. Really, that damns them, without them ever realising it. Arrogance is a trait of ugly people.

25 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:20:34am

Rall's just bitter he didn't draw the Simpsons.

26 Hard Right  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:20:44am

re: #14 Pyrocles

This cartoon could be seen as sarcasm, if it wasn't "drawn" by Rall.

No it wouldn't. Try associating yourself with "her" other cartoons before posting something like that.

27 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:21:23am

Which papers carry his "cartoons"? (They're too poorly executed to really be considered cartoons, IMHO.)

28 lejero  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:21:50am

with that line of, ummm, thinking, then why isnt he dead yet? He's idiot, he shudda joined and died...yeah, that's the ticket...

29 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:22:33am

I see no reason why this guy can't get his a$$ whipped while having a beer at his local tavern, seems ok to me if I walked in and saw him!

30 ointmentfly  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:22:44am

An adult still drawing cartoons is calling our soldiers idiots? Is calling a group of trained killers "idiots" the work of a brain surgeon?

31 Capt. Queeg  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:22:56am

Oh, I'm just doubled over with laughter. How edgy. How ironic.

/puke

32 Spiny Norman  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:23:19am

re: #27 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Which papers carry his "cartoons"? (They're too poorly executed to really be considered cartoons, IMHO.)

I've seen worse published in the LA Times, for example. Rall's general vileness keeps him from wide syndication, not his "edgy" drawing style.

33 Golem Akbar  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:23:21am

re: #22 lostlakehiker

Notice that when liberals let their guard down, they sound pretty eugenicist. Of course, Rall doesn't know anything about the science of intelligence or heritability, he doesn't know anything about the intelligence of the soldiers in Iraq, and he doesn't know anything about the average number of children born to those who volunteer for the armed services, or how that compares to the overall average for Americans.

Not knowing squat about squat doesn't deter him from touching the Third Rail with a solid copper ladder, though.

Rall et al live in a fantasyland. They are idealists who refuse to grow up. Reality doesn't exist (they read Sartre, fercryinoutloud).

34 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:23:22am

re: #23 zombie

If you were to go back and look at the propaganda in WWII put out by
Lord Haw-Haw and Tokyo Rose, it would be indistinguishable from the
"creative output" of Ted Rall (and his ilk).

He is literally on the other side.

I watched "Prisoner of War" over the weekend, it was a Cold War Ronald Reagan vehicle. The ill-written propaganda spewed out by the film's communists was pretty much what one reads on Koz, Huff-Puff, et al.

35 ROPMA  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:23:28am

Ted Rall spotted in public.

36 aunursa  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:23:45am

Can someone create a cartoon of Rall finding himself in hell and wondering why Reagan and Tillman aren't there?

37 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:24:11am

For some odd reason, I just don't get Ted Rall's sense of humor. Maybe the man is just not funny.

38 1redthread  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:24:16am

re: #27 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Which papers carry his "cartoons"? (They're too poorly executed to really be considered cartoons, IMHO.)

I'm sure there are some. Probably the same ones who wouldn't print the new age Muslim girlfriend Opus cartoon.

39 billhedrick  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:24:20am

Saw a comment elsewhere that summarizes it for me,
"It's a patriot thing Ted, you wouldn't understand."

40 the_flying_pig  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:24:25am

Ted Rall is basing his cartoon from the movie, Idiocracy.

Pretty funny but scary movie about people's IQ in the future. Based on a 1950s short story called the Marching Morons.

41 jojostan  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:24:38am

I wish I could say I'm surprised even a little by this but I'm not. Rall is a man consumed with hate and loathing for anything military. The funny thing is the men and women in uniform he so despises are better educated than most Americans (statistically). He actually makes Bobby Caina Calvin look like Edward R. Murrow.

42 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:24:46am

re: #33 Golem Akbar

re: #22 lostlakehiker

Notice that when
liberals let their guard down, they sound pretty eugenicist. Of course,
Rall doesn't know anything about the science of intelligence or
heritability, he doesn't know anything about the intelligence of the
soldiers in Iraq, and he doesn't know anything about the average number
of children born to those who volunteer for the armed services, or how
that compares to the overall average for Americans.

Not knowing squat about squat doesn't deter him from touching the Third Rail with a solid copper ladder, though.


Rall et al live in a fantasyland. They are idealists who refuse to grow
up. Reality doesn't exist (they read Sartre, fercryinoutloud).

Even Camus realized that Sarte was full of shit.

43 Catttt  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:24:57am

USA Today's right - this will overshadow yesterday's Calvan blogdustup.

44 maddogg  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:25:00am

Ted's kidding his self. The great idiot die off is going to occur here, in a few years, and I suspect his genes will disappear from the pool...

45 Pyrocles  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:25:40am

re: #26 Hard Right

Oh, I've seen Rall's other "work". He's a sick and demented perfect specimen of leftist thought. It's just that the cartoon SO perfectly illustrates leftist thinking and is so ridiculous, that if the author was unknown, it would almost be "funny". Well, not really funny...it's disgusting any way you look at it. I have no idea what I'm talking about; I can't clearly express myself after looking at such crap :).

I love LGF as a long-time lurker, but find it hard to comment since I get so steamed...

46 Golem Akbar  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:25:51am

re: #37 Honorary Yooper

For some odd reason, I just don't get Ted Rall's sense of humor. Maybe the man is just not funny.

/You are just not smart enough [sniff sniff].

47 mbruce  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:26:05am

Thanks, Charles for posting this, I saw it earlier at HotAir but I refused to click the link to his site, the little crapweasel is not getting any extra traffic from me.

48 TexasRider  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:26:28am

Let us not forget that the left supports the troops... it's the war that they despise.

Anybody have a can of Raid?

49 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:26:29am

Hey dipshit, how are those concentration camps coming along?

Concentration Camps

In January 2006 HomeSec awarded a $385 million contract to Kellogg, Brown and Root, the subsidiary of Halliburton Co., to build "temporary detention and processing capabilities"--internment camps--"in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs."

The question, asks Progressive magazine editor Ruth Conniff, "is what is the government planning to do with mass roundups of people?" After all, Bush and other Republican leaders have spent five years calling Democrats and others who disagree with them traitors and terrorists. Following so much hateful rhetoric, you can't blame liberals for wondering whether they too are about to be declared "enemy combatants." They're not paranoid; they're just paying attention.

And Now, Martial Law

About a week ago some left-wing bloggers began circulating rumors that Bush had secretly signed something called the "John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007" that "allows the president to declare a 'public emergency' and station troops anywhere in America and take control of state-based National Guard units without the consent of the governor or local authorities, in order to 'suppress public disorder.'" I couldn't find the text of the law at the time, formerly H.R. 5122, or a reliable media account, so I decided not to report on it.

50 Catttt  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:26:34am

I hate Ted Rall with every fibre of my being.

Oh, and Mr. Rall, if you knew any military people, you'd know how wrong you are, but then you wouldn't be you.

51 ContraJihadi  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:26:48am

Another candidate for code duello or at least a sound caning. My, but the list grows huge, and how it skews to the left!

52 Capt. Queeg  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:27:19am

TedRall is just another self-loathing leftist with little man syndrome who grew up privileged in the one of the wealthier suburbs of that cosmopolitan megalopolis known as...Dayton, OH.
I'm guessing the football players picked on him.

53 uncle_monkey  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:27:34am

I just got stupider from looking at that.

54 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:27:42am

re: #37 Honorary Yooper

For some odd reason, I just don't get Ted Rall's sense of humor. Maybe the man is just not funny.


You have this thing called a "soul" - that pretty much prevents you from appreciating Rall's body of work.

55 Glackinspeil  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:27:45am

Have you guys seen this?...amazing ibby hooper already has his panties bunched up!

OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) - A gift intended to promote diversity in Oklahoma is generating controversy instead.

Oklahoma State Rep. Rex Duncan: Saying No to Islamists–That’s Hot
Several state lawmakers are returning copies of the Quran to a state panel on diversity after one lawmaker claimed the Muslim holy book condones the killing of innocent people.


In a letter to colleagues, state Representative Rex Duncan says “most Oklahomans do not endorse the idea of killing innocent women and children in the name of ideology.” At least 17 other legislators have notified the Governor’s Ethnic American Advisory Council that they too will return the gift.

56 zombie  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:27:52am

Another thing to ponder, just for the record:

In 4 years of war, somewhere around 3,800 troops have died.

I don't have the statistics immediately at hand, but:

How many people died in car accidents in the US during the same period?
How many were murdered?
How many committed suicide?
How many died in other accidents?
How many overdosed on drugs?
How many died during the commission of a crime?
How many died because of bad habits like smoking?

In real reality, the deaths due to the Iraq War are a teeny tiny percentage of all U.S. deaths. Even if Rall's slanderous lie that soldiers are stupid is true, to take his argument seriously, the war would still have no effect on the general population's intelligence level.

And one hilarious point for the statisticians: Rall says "The average IQ soared." That's impossible. The very definition of IQ is that the "average" will always be 100.

57 1redthread  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:28:08am

re: #49 JammieWearingFool

Oh, I get it now. He's a loon.

58 Occasional Reader  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:28:28am

Dear Ted Rall:

I would imagine you drop by the Washington, DC area from time to time. Next time you do, I invite you to spend an afternoon with me at a DC-area full-contact or boxing gym. I will make all necessary arrangements for time in the ring together. All perfectly legal. I'm looking forward to it. You may contact me via this website.

59 the_flying_pig  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:28:34am

re: #32 Spiny Norman

re: #27 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Which papers carry his "cartoons"? (They're too poorly executed to really be considered cartoons, IMHO.)

I've seen worse published in the LA Times, for example. Rall's general vileness keeps him from wide syndication, not his "edgy" drawing style.

What's really sad is that Ted Rall think his cartoons are considered as humor in a form of satire. I look at Ted Rall's works over the years and none of them are even that funny or satirical. His is just basically a "slam" piece masqueraded as humorous cartoon. People who read and actually laugh at his pieces have lower IQ than ours.

60 TheUnrepentantGeek  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:28:36am

Behold the tolerance and loving-kindness that IS the left.

/spit

I'm sure this was just a "botched joke." Or perhaps not. Perhaps this excretion is the product of a narcissistic moron so utterly convinced of his own superiority that demeaning hundreds of thousands of people he's never met is justifiable and even commendable. Bravo, Mr. Rall. By your works we know you.

61 Catttt  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:28:55am

re: #56 zombie

And one hilarious point for the statisticians: Rall says "The average IQ soared." That's impossible. The very definition of IQ is that the "average" will always be 100.

Heh. Good one.

62 Golem Akbar  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:29:14am

On the plus side, the Ted Ralls of the world don't have children, so their real influence ends right with them.

63 Dirk Diggler  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:29:16am

Piss on Ted Rall (unless he's on fire, of course).

Still this cartoon had been mentioned earlier and I was hoping it wouldn't get it's own thread.

By now we should all know that Rall is nothing more than a petulant little attention whore. By linking to his rubbish and stirring up controversy we are simply gratifying him.

64 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:29:21am

re: #52 Capt. Queeg

TedRall is just another self-loathing leftist with little man
syndrome who grew up privileged in the one of the wealthier suburbs of
that cosmopolitan megalopolis known as...Dayton, OH.
I'm guessing the football players picked on him.

Dayton? You mean his shadow befouled the U.S. Air Force Museum?

65 goodbye_natalie  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:29:22am

The great thing about life is that eventually loathsome people like Rall self-destruct and nobody remembers anything fondly about them besides they are gone...

66 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:29:47am

re: #50 Cattt

I hate Ted Rall with every fibre of my being.

Oh, and Mr. Rall, if you knew any military people, you'd know how wrong you are, but then you wouldn't be you.

I'm sure he's quite intimate with the Jesse MacBeth types.

67 davenp35  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:29:48am

Who pays this asshat for his cartoons anyway? (That's a serious questions btw)

68 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:29:49am

Just don't question his patriotism.

69 sundog  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:30:18am

"What are we idiots to do?"

Well, you could always become cartoonists. Clearly, no intelligence is required for that career -- just lots of smug, arrogant, condescending hatred.

And a lack of artistic ability is obviously no handicap.

70 Carolina Girl  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:30:44am

re: #17 lawhawk

Rall seethes for attention, so he posts crapulence like this.

I see. A person who feels honor bound to fight for his country and take up the call to arms is an idiot. Someone who dies in Iraq fighting for a just cause is an idiot.

Right. Gotcha.

Rall, you are a reprehensible, sad, little man, who wouldn't know honor and duty if it hit you upside the head.

Is there any publication of worth that would even publish this cretin's work? I guess Ted hasn't been on TV lately and needs to get himself noticed by Hannity, O'Reilly, et al.

I will, of course, await with much eagerness Harry Reid taking to the floor of the Senate to denounce in grand fashion with much verbosity this verifiable smearing of America's fighting forces.

71 zombie  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:31:21am

re: #67 davenp35

Who pays this asshat for his cartoons anyway? (That's a serious questions btw)

Isn't he part of the Washington Post syndicate? I'm not actually sure.

72 Capt. Queeg  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:31:27am

re: #64 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Yup. He's from Kettering, OH. It's a nice place. I'm guessing Mommy and Daddy gave him a lot of support as he developed his 'cartooning' career.

73 canerican  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:31:29am

Does this mean that John Kerry* is collaborating with Ted Rall.

*The same John Kerry that thinks our troop are smart dumb individuals who choose to go got stuck Iraq

74 pat  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:31:52am

I am sure there is a relation between intelligence and the ability to draw. The drawing here sucks.

75 justacanuck  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:32:01am

What is with the emergence of all the anti-military idiots these days?

Was it this ugly with mo-rons in the 60's, or are today's leftarded military-haters even more extreme than their parents?

76 realwest  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:32:03am

re: #63 Dirk Diggler Agree completely.

77 lawhawk  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:32:16am

re: #56 zombie

In real reality, the deaths due to the Iraq War are a teeny tiny percentage of all U.S. deaths. Even if Rall's slanderous lie that soldiers are stupid is true, to take his argument seriously, the war would still have no effect on the general population's intelligence level.

And one hilarious point for the statisticians: Rall says "The average IQ soared." That's impossible. The very definition of IQ is that the "average" will always be 100.

That, I'm sure, would go over his head.

78 Colonel Panik  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:32:18am

As the gamer kids would say "Ted Rall is teh sux."

79 galloping granny  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:32:24am

Halp us Jon Carry! We are stuk in Irak!

I repeat: they must have dumbed down the SAT yet one more time.

80 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:32:37am

re: #56 zombie

In his column, he says

Bush, 61, has so far met with more than 1,500 relatives of the 4,255 American troops who have lost their lives in Iraq and Afghanistan,"

Is that 4255 figure accurate?

81 freedomplow  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:32:48am

The success of the surge is making the left crack up.

You can read it in their blogs, news articles and witness it in their actions.

Surge Derangement Syndrome.

That code pink broad that accosted Condi yesterday is being celebrated by the left.

Bill O’Reilly made a prediction the other day... Someone is going to get hurt from the whacked–out left.

82 Glackinspeil  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:32:56am

The cat is out of the bag...way out

here is the link

Congressman returns korans...says islam is violent.

83 M. Bensson-Levi[deleted]  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:32:56am
84 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:33:10am

unbelievable

85 gman  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:33:11am

Hey Ted, those so- called idiots gave you the freedom to publish your thoughts, which revealed to us your self- loathing and unappreciative self.

I wonder what it would take, Ted, for you to understand what the word
"sacrifice" means. Making sacrifices means putting others above yourself. Someday, if you ever get tired of being coddled by all of your freedom, go out and check out what's going on around the world. We have the most freedom of any country in the world, period. That freedom came from sacrifices, Ted.

86 goodbye_natalie  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:33:39am

re: #55 Glackinspeil

Oklahoma State Rep. Rex Duncan: Saying No to Islamists–That’s Hot
Several state lawmakers are returning copies of the Quran to a state panel on diversity after one lawmaker claimed the Muslim holy book condones the killing of innocent people.

There are days it makes me really proud to be an Okie. Maybe the rest of the world will catch on that living the simple life can be the most profound. No need to flush the Qu'ran - simply laugh at them and hand it back saying, "Thanks but No thanks. Got more edifying things to read."

87 SagamoreGal  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:33:39am

Who in the holy fuck is Ted Rall and why should I care?

88 zombie  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:33:39am

Ah, no, he's part of the Universal Press Syndicate. It says so on every cartoon.

89 lefty201  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:33:48am

Considering the level of intelligence at many many military functions I have been to it would not surprise me if Teddy boy here has never actually met a REAL soldier.

and as a personal aside...for those Koslings who troll this message board and Many other like it, My grandfather is a navy SEAL. (notice i didn't say was, once a seal always a seal) He holds a masters degree in criminal justice, and also a masters in psychology. He just happens to be the smartest man I have ever met. (and also possibly the kindest man I have ever met.)

so there ya go teddy. There's your IQ for ya, now go back to drawing your pretty pictures, You will get your cool-aid and cookies right before nap time.

90 Carolina Girl  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:33:57am

re: #80 JammieWearingFool

Probably - they have included Afghanistan in the total.

91 wolverine20  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:34:01am

Our military are made up only of "idiots", but they support the troops!

92 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:34:24am
93 3 wood  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:34:29am

Geez, how I loath the media.

94 zombie  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:34:37am

You think Rall cares about our put-downs of him? He's too busyt re-arrnaging his awards and trophies.

From wikipedia:

Rall's cartoons have won the 1995 and 2000 Robert F. Kennedy Journalism Awards and the Society of Professional Journalists Deadline Club Award. He won the 2002 James Aronson Award for Social Justice Graphics. His book Real Americans Admit: The Worst Thing I've Ever Done! won first prize from the Firecracker Alternative Press Awards, his Orwell parody "2024" was named a Best Book of the Year by Amazon.com, and his graphic travelogue To Afghanistan and Back was named as one of the American Library Association's Best Books of the Year.
Rall was a 1996 Pulitzer Prize finalist.
He is President-Elect of the Association of American Editorial Cartoonists.
Rall won Second Prize in the Cartoon category of the 2007 Association of Alternative Newsweeklies Awards.[17] Also in 2007, his book "Silk Road to Ruin" picked up First Prize in the New York Book Festival Competition in the Comics/Zines category.[18] He took Second Prize in Lambda Legal's "Life Without Fair Courts" cartoon contest.[19]]

Read it and weep.

95 goodbye_natalie  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:35:09am

re: #80 JammieWearingFool

That figure would include all soldiers killed, 3,800+ Americans.

96 Carolina Girl  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:35:18am

re: #77 lawhawk

re: #56 zombie


In real reality, the deaths due to the Iraq War are a teeny tiny percentage of all U.S. deaths. Even if Rall's slanderous lie that soldiers are stupid is true, to take his argument seriously, the war would still have no effect on the general population's intelligence level.

And one hilarious point for the statisticians: Rall says "The average IQ soared." That's impossible. The very definition of IQ is that the "average" will always be 100.


That, I'm sure, would go over his head.

Lawhawk - counting square in Hopscotch would go over Rall's head.

97 'Nam Grunt  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:35:35am

#75 justacanuck,

No difference, they talked about us the same way sometimes even worse, and passed it on to their mutated offspring of today. The apple doesn't fall too far from the tree!

98 Ben Hur  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:35:35am

The idiot is wearing a I love SPorts t-shirt.

That should explain where Ted Ralls anger comes from.

High School.

99 Glackinspeil  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:35:50am

re: #86 goodbye_natalie

It gets even better. He says he has been researching islame (on internet of all places...imagine that) and has come to logical conclusion islam is NFG.

100 Dianna  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:35:58am

re: #21 Hard Right

Actually, keep it to something Ted Rall would understand: in a bar full of marines - junior enlisted, just to keep it fair - see who finishes the New York Times Sunday Crossword first.

101 Capt. Queeg  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:36:13am

Wiki says he flunked out of Columbia engineering school. Maths aren't reall easy when you do that many bong hits.

/how di i know this you ask

102 Leatherneck[deleted]  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:36:37am
103 zombie  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:36:40am

re: #80 JammieWearingFool

re: #56 zombie

In his column, he says


Bush, 61, has so far met with more than 1,500 relatives of the 4,255 American troops who have lost their lives in Iraq and Afghanistan,"
Is that 4255 figure accurate?

I think if you combine Iraq AND Afghanistan (and everyone in the "theater of oeprations"). Iraq alone is under 4,000.

104 Liam76  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:36:47am

Does anyone know if this website had the new age girlfriend comic from Opus?

105 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:37:31am

The media culture's support for Rall (140+ mostly upscale publications) and similar vermin is the primary reason that I do not feel any need to moderate or temper my attacks on the media-industrial complex.

Establishment media support for Rall is based on two dubious propositions: The first is that there are no limits whatsoever on freedom of expression. Given the left's ongoing campaign against "hate speech" this is rank hypocrisy at best. It also repudiates all common-law and Constitutional definitions of free speech, the very definitions without which these publications could not function and without which their editors could quite literally not survive.

Secondly, the editors who use this nihilistic filth insist that its paid presence in their publications is not an endorsement of Rall's views. Are they not responsible for their own content? If not an outright statement of agreement, their use of this material is certainly an endorsement of its legitimacy as public discourse, a claim of legitimacy to which it is not entitled by any rational standard of discourse or professional conduct. It tells us what their standards, professional and personal, truly are and what kind of people we are truly confronting when we try to hold them accountable.

As I mentioned on an earlier string, Rall is a media culture insider. He is more popular with media professionals than with the general public, rather like the conspiracy theorist/comedian Richard Belzer. A minor star to the public, Belzer is a seriously influential mover and shaker within the institutional media culture.

The institutional media ARE the enemy, not just of the United States but of all civilized people. They are a de facto shadow government of elitist parasites, with neither accountability nor humane impulse. When you call them traitors, liars, swine, and enemies of humanity you are paying them back in their own coin.

106 stevieray  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:38:05am

Heh. Check out the last panel. The "idiot" has a t-shirt saying "I &hearts sports.

Mr. high IQ thinks its smart to insult about 100 million Americans. Genius.

107 Pawn of the Oppressor  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:38:43am

Ted still draws because everybody knows he's not worth the cost of the bullet.

108 MeanMrMustard  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:38:48am

[self delete]

109 Geepers  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:39:00am

zombie (#56),

Statistically speaking all US deaths in Iraq are about equal to bicycle accidents here in the US.

110 Da_Beerfreak  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:39:04am

Ted Rall leaves the USA, average I.Q. soared to a new high in America!

(Rall doesn't have any patriotism to question!)

111 SouthernFriedChickenHawk  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:39:20am

I the think the most telling example of this guy is the what the shirt the stick guy is wearing in the last panel of the cartoon. "I Love Sports"...

There you have it folks, he is still seething with dork rage about the fact that jocks called him out for the worthless vagina fluids he is and he still probably dreams about kicking the jocks ass that was banging the girl in high school he had a crush on. If only she could have understand and recognized his brilliance!

Nerd...just another cowardly nerd...

112 JeffWeimer  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:39:37am

I guess I'm one of these idiots that joined the military, because Ted Rall certainly thinks there are better things I could be doing than being a tool of US imperialism. During my 19 year career, I've finished my college degree, literally traveled around the world, and raised a family, all while working full time - sometimes far far beyond (100 hours per week for 3 months one deployment). But that's okay, I'm an idiot, because I volunteered to put my life on the line for the interests of this country. His kind didn't have a problem using me during the Clinton years, maybe because I belonged to "them" at the time and not GW, whom they visibly loathe.

This is the very same attitude that got Kerry in trouble last year with his "stuck in Iraq" quote. They believe this to their very soul. It was a mistake then when Kerry let his Freudian slip show. This guy did it with his eyes wide open. He truly means it. And he's not alone.

I find his opinion abhorrent, but I will defend to death his right to say it.

Jeff Weimer
Senior Chief, U.S. Navy

113 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:39:40am

In Ted Rall's latest column he suggests that troops frag their officers:

Soldiers who want antiwar Americans to march to demand that they be brought home should take a cue from Vietnam veterans. They marched with peace protesters and threw their medals at the Capitol. Soldiers serving on the front refused orders. Some fragged their officers. Vietnam Veterans Against the War claimed more than 50,000 members by 1971. That year saw numerous dramatic acts of dissent by U.S. troops, including 50 veterans who marched to the Pentagon and demanded that they be arrested as war criminals. Fifteen vets took over and barricaded the Statue of Liberty for two days. These acts swayed opinions and helped convince lawmakers it was time to withdraw.

Link

114 3 wood  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:39:40am

re: #58 Occasional Reader


Dear Ted Rall:

I would imagine you drop by the Washington, DC area from time to time. Next time you do, I invite you to spend an afternoon with me at a DC-area full-contact or boxing gym. I will make all necessary arrangements for time in the ring together. All perfectly legal. I'm looking forward to it. You may contact me via this website.


Same here for Central Illinois.

Any time.

You and me.

115 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:39:54am

re: #101 Capt. Queeg


I was scared, when forced to learn weird things like systems of linear differential equations, during my engineering education, that I would actually have to use it, but thank goodness almost anything remotely derived from calculus is either in handy tables in engineering books or designed into convenient computer programs, such that I almost never have to do any math more complicated than simple eight grade algebra for my job.

116 cookielady  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:40:19am

re: #82 Glackinspeil

This is old news here, friend. Please don't post it a third time.

117 davenp35  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:40:20am

To contact Ted Rall's employer Universal Press Syndicate
[Link: www.amuniversal.com...]

118 uncle_monkey  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:40:32am

re: #56 zombie

How many died choking on their own vomit looking at his strip?

119 zombie  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:40:58am

re: #106 stevieray

Heh. Check out the last panel. The "idiot" has a t-shirt saying "I %u2665 sports.

Mr. high IQ thinks its smart to insult about 100 million Americans. Genius.

His wonderful vaunted Europeans are obsessed with sports even more than Americans.

Oh, but it's soccer, the hip and cool sport loved by superior people. Sorry. I thought I had made a valid point or something.

Carry on.

120 rabid fanatic  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:41:36am

Yeah, I guess Gen. Petraeus' PhD from Princeton makes him an idiot.

121 BarCodeKing  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:41:43am

Really, is there anyone here who didn't already think that Ted Rall was a loathesome piece of excrement before reading that "cartoon"? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

122 marge45b  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:41:47am

Remember that John F***king Kerry tried that idiot thing last November. Most military folk I know have college and graduate degrees. (My Husband was in the Navy for 24 years and obtained a BS in Mechanical Engineering.)

123 Dianna  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:41:56am

re: #83 M. Bensson-Levi

That was satire, right?

124 Hard Right  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:42:01am

re: #81 freedomplow

The success of the surge is making the left crack up.

You can read it in their blogs, news articles and witness it in their actions.

Surge Derangement Syndrome.

That code pink broad that accosted Condi yesterday is being celebrated by the left.

Bill O’Reilly made a prediction the other day... Someone is going to get hurt from the whacked–out left.

They allready have. He should say that someone will get hurt in a way that causes it to be a big news event.
That's even if you don't count how we've had soldiers murdered by IFs who joined after watching the MSM's anti-American/defeatist reports.

125 Glackinspeil  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:42:04am

re: #116 cookielady

re: #82 Glackinspeil

This is old news here, friend. Please don't post it a third time.

Sorry. I didn't have time to catchup on threads...teething baby at home

126 cookielady  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:42:12am

re: #89 lefty201

so there ya go teddy. There's your IQ for ya, now go back to drawing your pretty pictures, You will get your cool-aid and cookies right before nap time.

Hey! No cookies for him! grrr...

127 realwest  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:42:58am

re: #79 galloping granny Posted a comment to you on the Emory thread - did you see it?!

128 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:43:31am

re: #115 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

re: #101 Capt. Queeg


I was scared, when forced to learn weird things like systems of linear differential equations, during my engineering education, that I would actually have to use it, but thank goodness almost anything remotely derived from calculus is either in handy tables in engineering books or designed into convenient computer programs, such that I almost never have to do any math more complicated than simple eight grade algebra for my job.


BTW, I probably would have flunked out of college if I had gone straight in when I was 18. I got a lot of the partying out of my system in the Navy, and learned how to budget my time so I could both study and party when I got to school.

129 uncle_monkey  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:45:23am

re: #106 stevieray

Heh. Check out the last panel. The "idiot" has a t-shirt saying "I &hearts sports.

Mr. high IQ thinks its smart to insult about 100 million Americans. Genius.

If he'd have been clever he'd have had I (heart) NASCAR.
But. He's. Not.

130 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:46:00am

Marines are extra smart.

131 cookielady  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:46:03am

re: #112 JeffWeimer

Thank you, thank you, thank you for your service and defense of me, my precious family, and everything in which we believe. Thank you and may God bless you daily!

132 Capt. Queeg  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:46:05am

re: #115 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Diff Eq was a complete mystery to me (and just about everyone I knew). I'm not sure why it's part of a standard eng. degree,anyway. Seemed like they kind of just passed everybody through it.
As a civil enginner, these here CAD programs have the same benefit. Whereas my hand-held calculator has lot of functions I used to know about back in college, I only know +,-,x and / now,

133 uncle_monkey  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:46:47am

re: #109 Geepers

zombie (#56),

Statistically speaking all US deaths in Iraq are about equal to bicycle accidents here in the US.

I'll bet that's why old Teddy wears a bicycle helmet all the time?

134 29Victor  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:47:26am

...on the othere hand, drawing cartoons for a living qualifies one for Mensa.

135 Bob in Breckenridge[deleted]  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:47:52am
136 cookielady  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:48:02am

re: #125 Glackinspeil


Sorry. I didn't have time to catchup on threads...teething baby at home

Oh, boy, I know how that is! Bless you! Sleep and eat when you can...

137 Ojoe  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:48:30am

re: #132 Capt. Queeg

Yep; I worked really hard to get through calculus; but now I rarely use it & would have to go back to square one if I wanted to understand it.

138 arminius  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:49:10am

re: #98 Ben Hur

The idiot is wearing a I love SPorts t-shirt.

That should explain where Ted Ralls anger comes from.

High School.

You, sir, have uncovered the Rosetta Stone which allows us to understand the mind of the left.

139 rappmandu  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:49:15am

The only thing more idiotic than Rall's cartoons are the idiots that think he is good at his "craft." On his best day, an F+.

140 MilkOfMalfeasance  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:50:19am

This is revolting. Is this garbage in print? Or does it only exist on irrelevant websites?

141 alteredbeat  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:50:43am

HALP US TAD RELL - WE R STUCK HEAR N IRAK

142 goodbye_natalie  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:51:35am

Where are all these military dummies Rall speaks of? Since going back to school with non-traditional types that have recently come back from service and wish to obtain a formal degree, I've found invariably they're some of the best students in the class.

But I haven't met one seeking a journalism degree...

143 MilkOfMalfeasance  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:52:06am

re: #138 arminius

re: #98 Ben Hur

The idiot is wearing a I love SPorts t-shirt.

That should explain where Ted Ralls anger comes from.

High School.

You, sir, have uncovered the Rosetta Stone which allows us to understand the mind of the left.

With a sprinkling of "Daddy Issues."

144 Highrise  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:53:56am

re: #45 Pyrocles


It's just that the cartoon SO perfectly illustrates leftist thinking and is so ridiculous


And the leftists wonder why we question their patriotism...each passing issue like this reinforces that I'm not wrong for doing so. Some editor(s) made the decision to let this go through which to me, makes it worse.


I love LGF as a long-time lurker, but find it hard to comment since I get so steamed...

Nice to see you are a normal human being.

145 Lasd02[deleted]  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:54:10am
146 lefty201  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:54:13am

re: #112 JeffWeimer

Thank you Sir, for all of your dedication. I cannot express how honored I am to count you among our countries greatest.

147 realwest  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:54:40am

re: #105 Shiplord Kirel "Establishment media support for Rall is based on two dubious propositions: The first is that there are no limits whatsoever on freedom of expression."
Unless, of course, you're David Horowitz trying to give a speech you've been invited to give at Emory Univeristy.

148 Gusbenz  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:54:50am

Ted Rall is an ass.

149 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:56:38am

re: #140 MilkOfMalfeasance

This is revolting. Is this garbage in print? Or does it only exist on irrelevant websites?

Rall is syndicated through Universal Press Syndicate. (h/t davenp35)
According to their website:

His cartoons now appear in more than 140 publications, including the Philadelphia Daily News, Aspen Times, Hartford Advocate, Newark Star-Ledger, Los Angeles Times, Wilmington News-Journal, San Diego Reader, Village Voice, Harrisburg (PA) Patriot-News, Las Vegas Review Journal, Washington City Paper, Tucson Weekly, Sacramento News & Review, San Jose Mercury-News, Lexington Herald-Leader and New York Times.

As I pointed out, he is also an influential trend-setter and popular insider within the professional media sub-culture.

150 jamgarr  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:57:02am

There is nothing as easy to do as shock. Pee on a cross - call soldiers idiots - it's all the same lazy attention grab. Other lazy methods include: Green Zone "reporting", "symbolically" rejecting an opponent's comments by turning your back to them, etc. Today's left is nothing if not lazy.

151 realwest  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:57:06am

re: #112 JeffWeimer I am also a veteran (Vietnam, class of '70) and have to ask you this: When do we have the right to NOT defend his right to speak until OUR deaths?

152 pittrader1988  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:57:50am

I find this type of attitude particularly endemic among the elite of America. Senator Kerry "misspoke" awhile ago about grades and college students.

It is almost to the point of treason how our academic elite feel no debt to their country. At top institutions, ROTC is not allowed. At my daughters' tony prep school, if a kid wants to go to a military academy, they are looked down upon.

The Medal of Honor was given the other day, and some news stations didn't cover it. Culturally, we have forgotten what selfless sacrifice is, and what it means to be a citizen of our country.

We owe a debt to our way of life. It started on some frosty fields out in Valley Forge, PA. Freedom, and the good fortune of being born an American is a debt that we cannot hope to repay. But it is one that we need to show appreciation for.

This comic has the good fortune of being an American. In other countries he would be jailed or assasinated.

153 MilkOfMalfeasance  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:57:51am

re: #146 lefty201

I second that. THANK YOU for serving.

154 Peabody  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:58:12am

I can not begin to fathom what he must have been thinking when you looked over this cartoon and thought to yourself, "Another masterpiece of comedic genius complete!" While he may not understand the reasons some of us have for undertaking military service to our country, it only takes a modicum of common sense to know that anything disrespectful to the dead is considered in poor taste.

The sad thing is that while mocking the less than intelligent, He only reveals his own ignorance. 100 is considered the population average in IQ, so by reducing the left side of the bell curve, you only shift the baseline to the right. The average person may be much smarter than before, but the average IQ will remain 100 so it's impossible to "kill all the stupid people" (Hattip: Hitler) and increase your population's IQ scores.

155 BuddyG  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:58:16am
156 justacanuck  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:58:30am

re: #97 'Nam Grunt

Ted Rall is a braying asshole. This is what a braying asshole looks like.

Taking a cue from Larry Flynt's rags - with the 'feature' "Asshole of the Month", perhaps it's time for the right side of the blogosphere to create our own special place for such recognition. Though in further consideration, and just thinking back a couple of weeks, perhaps we had best name it Asshole of the Week.

157 realwest[deleted]  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:59:16am
158 stevieray  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:59:18am

Gah! I'm late! Back to work.

159 rappmandu  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:59:18am

Who's the bigger idiot--the so-called "idiots" in the military, or the idiot who obsesses over them?

I bet Teddy's I.Q. soars to 168 with each stroke of his mighty pen. He's "smart" enough not to draw cartoons about Mo.

Wow, real edgy...Not Supporting the Troops. Yawn.

160 MahdiMuadDib  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:00:20am

So, does this "only idiots fight" meme apply to Rall's "freedom fighters" in Iraq too? And if you believe the memes about Bush being stupid (as Rall certainly does), what would his reason for getting his core supporters killed? But I digress, I am asking this wackjob to have some internal consistency.

161 gtrtech  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:01:34am

Harry Reid will denounce this attack on our soldiers in 5...4...3..2...

162 NFLFan  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:01:56am

Who in the hell is Ted Rall and why is he breathing my air?

163 rappmandu  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:02:29am

Take a real risk, Mr. Rall. Draw a strip mocking Ken Burns's "idiotic" documentary about other "idiots."

Let's see if you're progressive enough.

164 Hard Right  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:03:14am

re: #45 Pyrocles

re: #26 Hard Right

Oh, I've seen Rall's other "work". He's a sick and demented perfect specimen of leftist thought. It's just that the cartoon SO perfectly illustrates leftist thinking and is so ridiculous, that if the author was unknown, it would almost be "funny". Well, not really funny...it's disgusting any way you look at it. I have no idea what I'm talking about; I can't clearly express myself after looking at such crap :).

I love LGF as a long-time lurker, but find it hard to comment since I get so steamed...

I wondered about that-so I took it easy on ya. :)
Ted Rall is one of the most sub-human dirtbags I've ever heard of.

165 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:04:28am

re: #119 zombie

re: #106 stevieray

Heh. Check out the last panel. The "idiot" has a t-shirt saying "I %u2665 sports.

Mr. high IQ thinks its smart to insult about 100 million Americans. Genius.

His wonderful vaunted Europeans are obsessed with sports even more than Americans.

Oh, but it's soccer, the hip and cool sport loved by superior people. Sorry. I thought I had made a valid point or something.

Carry on.


Soccer is the world's second greatest delusion.

166 Defector01  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:04:33am

this is like the liberal natural selection/eugenic dream


that all the republicans, patriots, christians would die in a war leaving just those smart liberals in charge.

167 Wendya  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:04:47am

It would be a real shame if Rall were to wake up one morning and find himself naked with USA tattooed across his chest in the mountains of Afghanistan.

168 uncle_monkey  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:05:15am

Anybody see a market for a Ted Rall sanitary screen?

169 Charles  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:06:16am

Lasd02: please read the notice at the top of this page. It's there for a reason. Your account is still active only because I'm in a relatively good mood today.

170 MilkOfMalfeasance  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:07:14am

re: #168 uncle_monkey

Anybody see a market for a Ted Rall sanitary screen?

I will buy your entire stock. Awesome.

171 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:07:41am

re: #162 NFLFan

Who in the hell is Ted Rall and why is he breathing my air?

You like sports, NFLFan, so you're an idiot!
/Ted Rall

172 Catttt  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:08:10am

This combines two things I really hate.

I hate it when people diss the military.

I hate it when people toss IQ about as a weapon. I have a very high IQ, but I learned many years ago that that and a buck will get me a coffee at the local convenience store. I also learned that everyone has his or her intrinsic worth, and IQ is far from the most important quality one can have.

Also, I worked with the Association for Retarded Citizens during my college years and discovered that each client I worked with had more common sense in their little finger than I had in my whole body. When we had a picnic, just as an example, all the smart people forgot to be sure the fire was out - a client remembered.

I hate it when people diss people for being developmentally disabled.

173 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:10:31am

re: #157 realwest

re: #145 Lasd02 I do understand the sentiment, but I don't think we ought to advocate the killing of any individuals, by name, out here on LGF.
Makes it too easy for the Cherry Pickers, ya know?

We advocate and cheer the killing of specific terrorists all the time. I don't think we should advocate any extra-legal killings however. If all of those beasts were caught together at a Fatah planning conference, helping to select the next day's targets, it would be perfectly legal under international and Israeli law for a Hellfire missile to come through the window and vaporize them. The slime level would come down in that event too.

Similarly, I would not want to see Ted Rall grabbed by vigilantes and strung up from the nearest lamppost. If, on the other hand, he were prosecuted under the Julius Streicher precedent and found lawfully guilty, well, who am I to stand in the way of justice?

174 Fritz_Katz  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:10:48am

James Taranto at the Wall Street Journal coined the term "Row Effect" -- since it's mostly liberals who abort their babies don't have children giving the conservatives the evolutionary advantage.

Imagine a world,

"300 years later, When the US has become an intellectual utopia of creativity and pragmatism"

because all the liberals have bred themselves out of existence.

175 Bunker Buster  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:12:35am

Rall is the exact sort of person for whom the word "execrable" came into being.

176 taterboy  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:13:59am

Even if you disagree with the administration, the conduct and handling of the war, foreign policy decisions, etc., which is entirely your right, what is the motivation for maligning the people who serve in the military?

Now, if you took out soldiers as the subject of the piece and inserted a racial or religious minority, the outrage would be (deservedly) loud and persistent. Why should this get a pass?

I used to think Rall was just simplistic and infantile, now I see that he is downright bitter and misanthropic. What a mean, pathetic little man-maybe he should be pitied more than reviled.

177 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:14:06am
178 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:15:34am
179 easy  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:15:47am
180 bunker buster  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:17:35am

re: #174 Fritz_Katz

I think it's the "Roe" effect, after the Roe v. Wade decision, unless there's something to do with sculling their way across the gene pool. ;-)

181 namesagame  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:17:43am

I can understand disagreement with the war; lotsa thoughtful people do. I cannot understand the hatred towards our people who fight it.

Is this guy really that shallow, or is he just wanting attention? Either way, this saddens me more than I can describe.

Pray for him.

-T
SSgt,
USAF '80-'84
USAFR IRR (Inactive Ready Reserve)

182 toomanysnax  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:19:02am

Got here late today. I read the cartoon. I did pass the Mensa test although not a member now (you have to pay dues!). I don't get it. Is it possible smart people can't understand "humor" like this? I don't get most of Doonsbury cartoons either.

183 MilkOfMalfeasance  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:19:25am

Who knew? Ted Rall has a brother.

184 Abu Kuffar  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:19:51am

I wouldn't be surprised if he were a Ron Paul supporter

185 cookielady  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:20:41am

re: #172 Cattt

You are so right, on all counts.

I love coming here. The discourse is as varied as the people. The level of discussion is a great deal more stimulating and intelligent than the pablum disseminated by the MSM. It does, occasionally, degenerate into the 'expletives deleted' variety, but this is understandable and certainly forgivable considering that the topics tend to engender strong emotion.

But reading posts like this one just makes my day. Thanks, Cattt.

186 Highrise  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:21:30am

re: #172 Cattt

I hate it when people toss IQ about as a weapon. I have a very high IQ, but I learned many years ago that that and a buck will get me a coffee at the local convenience store.

I also hate it when people toss out their degrees inappropriately as a weapon. I have an engineering degree and have worked with MANY technicians with associates degrees or non degreed even that were sharper than me in some areas. I distanced myself from those engineers with the superiority complex at work.

Now about that coffee...add a few dollars to that and I may touch one here.

187 Highrise  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:22:11am

re: #183 MilkOfMalfeasance

That needs a warning!

My eyes my eyes :P

188 Abu Kuffar  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:22:57am

Behead those who insult prophet Rall!
/

189 Hard Right  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:23:49am

re: #174 Fritz_Katz

James Taranto at the Wall Street Journal coined the term "Row Effect" -- since it's mostly liberals who abort their babies don't have children giving the conservatives the evolutionary advantage.

Imagine a world,

"300 years later, When the US has become an intellectual utopia of creativity and pragmatism"

because all the liberals have bred themselves out of existence.

While that would be nice, it won't happen. Why? Because it's no accident they insert themselves into the schools, media, and legal system. This way they can indoctinate, disseminate, and create the leftwing world they want.

190 Byzantium  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:25:10am

re: #178 buzzsawmonkey

As we say in New York, "that and $4.75 will get ya a cup of caaw-ffee".

However, Ted Rall's The Village Voice is still free, which is still too much for this vileness.

191 NY Nana  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:30:41am

The detestable Ted Rall's 'take' on Pat Tillman, a true American hero, and the follow up...

192 Ginn  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:33:08am

Rall is writing cartoons over in the former Soviet Republic... I ran across them the other day...

193 JeffWeimer  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:34:37am

re: #151 realwest

re: #112 JeffWeimer I am also a veteran (Vietnam, class of '70) and have to ask you this: When do we have the right to NOT defend his right to speak until OUR deaths?

He has the right to say it, not the right to be heard. I defend his right to speak, regardless of his opinion. I take exception to the content. He has the right to speak, but not the right to be heard. I won't defend to content of the speech.

194 uncle_monkey  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:37:57am

re: #184 Abu Kuffar

Hmmm.
Ted Rall.
Ron Paul.
Has anybody seen them together at the same time?

195 Catttt  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:39:08am

re: #186 Highrise

re: #172 Cattt


I hate it when people toss IQ about as a weapon. I have a very high IQ, but I learned many years ago that that and a buck will get me a coffee at the local convenience store.

I also hate it when people toss out their degrees inappropriately as a weapon. I have an engineering degree and have worked with MANY technicians with associates degrees or non degreed even that were sharper than me in some areas. I distanced myself from those engineers with the superiority complex at work.

Now about that coffee...add a few dollars to that and I may touch one here.

I didn't realize Pikesville had such cheap coffee - the large (not jumbo) is 95 cents. Keep in mind I get my joe at the Royal Farms, NOT at Starbucks!

I approach every person as an equal, whether it's a bum on the street or the CEO. In the overwhelming majority of cases, I learn from everyone and enjoy everyone's company, because people open up to me - I'm approachable - and share their special qualities with me. Seriously.

196 6pat6  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:41:32am

Ted Rall is a pathetic fucknut.

197 budgrayjr  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:45:11am

re: #3 JammieWearingFool

He has issues.

Dude, he has a whole subscription.

198 treesarie  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:45:51am

Will Harry, Hillary and their ilk, be firing off letters to the owners of the SacBee and USA Today to have them disciplined? I will not hold my breath.

These behaviors would not be occurring unless the editors thought there would be NO consequences. I hope that enough people make consequences happen.

199 blackelkspeaks  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:48:03am

In my opinion, the fact that more than half the people in this country continue to identify themselves as DemocRATs, making them the dominant political party for the past seventy years, irrespective of the indisputable negative consequences this has had on our country, proves to me the validity of the old saw "the stupidity of man knows no bounds".

200 Maximu§  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:48:16am

Is'nt this guys cartoons in Mad Magazine?


Maximu§
3/11 ACR

201 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:48:52am

re: #195 Cattt

I approach every person as an equal, whether it's a bum on the street or the CEO. In the overwhelming majority of cases, I learn from everyone and enjoy everyone's company, because people open up to me - I'm approachable - and share their special qualities with me. Seriously.

Reminds me of a story I heard about Albert Einstein. After World War 2, when his reputation as an unparalled genius was its height, Einstein happened to be at a meeting with some government types at the Princeton faculty club. He got bored with the proceedings and excused himself for a bathroom break. On the way back, he stopped at the kitchen, poured himself a cup of coffee and sat down with the kitchen staff to exchange gossip and small talk. After several minutes of this, one of the cooks nervously asked, "Excuse me, Dr. Einstein, we sure enjoy your company but shouldn't you be getting back to your meeting?" Einstein said, "Oh, no, you wouldn't believe what you can get away with when they think you're absent-minded."

202 TMF  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:53:04am

Ted who?

203 BuddyG  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:59:10am
204 Mike DeGuzman  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:59:19am

#202 TMF
Ted who?

Kennedy?

205 grumpy old codger  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:00:40am

If Rall were in the military, his Military Occupational Specialty (MOS) would be Oscar Tango (Oxygen Thief).
He is as useless as, well, name your favorite liberal journalist.
Oh, how I wish Al Capp were alive! Wouldn't that be fun?

206 lurking faith  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:00:41am

re: #132 Capt. Queeg

re: #115 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

Diff Eq was a complete mystery to me (and just about everyone I knew). I'm not sure why it's part of a standard eng. degree,anyway. Seemed like they kind of just passed everybody through it.

I must be weird. Diff Eqs were really easy for me - I spent that term explaining the homework to my classmates.

Vector analysis - now that gave me fits. Twice.

I think some of the required courses are required because the material, learned properly, changes the way you think. It literally burns new pathways in your brain, and even if you never use the material again, your brain can do things it couldn't have before.

207 BuddyG  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:01:07am

re: #204 Mike DeGuzman

#202 TMF
Ted who?

Kennedy?

A blond in every pond !

208 konservo  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:08:38am
“Only idiots signed up; only idiots died. Back home, the average I.Q. soared.”

Isn't this John Kerry's material?

Wasn't funny then, isn't funny now.

209 RobCon  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:09:53am

"Kar-ma Po-lice, arrest this man..."

210 thscott  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:10:13am

I hope he gets a flat tire... and the tow truck guy turns out to be a veteran who has seen his cartoons...

211 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:12:44am

re: #209 RobCon

"Kar-ma Po-lice, arrest this man..."

I think he will spend his next life as a toilet seat at Fort Bragg.

212 irongrampa  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:16:15am

#75 just a canuck--no less ugly, simply fewer of them this time around.

213 gymnast  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:18:21am

The excreable Ted Rall is featured in the local free advertiser (the paper is free the advertisers pay). I am amused when I reflect that the paid ads pay for my boycott of those whom bring themselves to my attention by advertising in the rag. Impunity is something that Mr Rall does not have and neither do those who support him.

214 Ghengis Khan  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:19:34am

re: #142 goodbye_natalie

Hey, Journalism degree doesn't necessarily mean "liberal degree" you can get a Journalism degree from a conservative school, and you can be a conservative who is getting a Journalism degree from ANY school. Do we want good journalists or no journalists? Some of the most respected conservative thinkers of our time are, and have been, journalists. Lets not knock journalism, just whacked out journalists.

215 hous bin pharteen  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:21:10am

Ted Rall is a nobody.
History will not judge such people well.

The Bolsheviks like Rall are going to make a better country? Please.

I think Patton said it best.


Patton paused, took a deep breath, and continued, "Each man must not think only of himself, but also of his buddy fighting beside him. We don't want yellow cowards in this Army. They should be killed off like rats. If not, they will go home after this war and breed more cowards. The brave men will breed more brave men. Kill off the Goddamned cowards and we will have a nation of brave men.
216 so.cal.swede  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:22:38am

this guy is vile.

[Link: www.gocomics.com...]

217 Ghengis Khan  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:22:50am

Oh and did anyone notice that the "intellectual utopia" meant working only 5 hours a week? AKA, if you are smart, you will be lazy.

Liberals are the ones that push the idea of getting rid of people that aren't "wanted" and that don't contribute to society. Working 5 hours a week would count as that to me. Send em' to Siberia.

218 so.cal.swede  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:25:18am

is the guy demented or what?

[Link: www.gocomics.com...]

219 so.cal.swede  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:29:19am

re: #217 Ghengis Khan

Oh and did anyone notice that the "intellectual utopia" meant working only 5 hours a week? AKA, if you are smart, you will be lazy.

Liberals are the ones that push the idea of getting rid of people that aren't "wanted" and that don't contribute to society. Working 5 hours a week would count as that to me. Send em' to Siberia.

The idea is to let all the people in to do work the "elites" don't want to do, enough people so that their labor will be cheap enough, that they don't have to work more than 5 hours a week.

Isn't it funny/ironic how socialist liberal's dream utopia is the worst possible scenario of a class-based oppression system? Keep the poor impoverished and plenty so that they will cut their own wages, while us elites work 5 hours a week and write screenplays.

*boggle*

220 1389  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:32:39am

re: #94 zombie

You think Rall cares about our put-downs of him? He's too busyt re-arrnaging his awards and trophies.

From wikipedia:

Rall's cartoons have won the 1995 and 2000 Robert F. Kennedy Journalism Awards and the Society of Professional Journalists Deadline Club Award. He won the 2002 James Aronson Award for Social Justice Graphics. His book Real Americans Admit: The Worst Thing I've Ever Done! won first prize from the Firecracker Alternative Press Awards, his Orwell parody "2024" was named a Best Book of the Year by Amazon.com, and his graphic travelogue To Afghanistan and Back was named as one of the American Library Association's Best Books of the Year.
Rall was a 1996 Pulitzer Prize finalist.
He is President-Elect of the Association of American Editorial Cartoonists.
Rall won Second Prize in the Cartoon category of the 2007 Association of Alternative Newsweeklies Awards.[17] Also in 2007, his book "Silk Road to Ruin" picked up First Prize in the New York Book Festival Competition in the Comics/Zines category.[18] He took Second Prize in Lambda Legal's "Life Without Fair Courts" cartoon contest.[19]]

Read it and weep.

Typical of the left-wing mafia. Constantly giving each other awards that make them look better than they are. Just like the Nobel "Peace" Prize.

221 1389  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:33:49am

re: #201 Shiplord Kirel

re: #195 Cattt

I approach every person as an equal, whether it's a bum on the street or the CEO. In the overwhelming majority of cases, I learn from everyone and enjoy everyone's company, because people open up to me - I'm approachable - and share their special qualities with me. Seriously.

Reminds me of a story I heard about Albert Einstein. After World War 2, when his reputation as an unparalled genius was its height, Einstein happened to be at a meeting with some government types at the Princeton faculty club. He got bored with the proceedings and excused himself for a bathroom break. On the way back, he stopped at the kitchen, poured himself a cup of coffee and sat down with the kitchen staff to exchange gossip and small talk. After several minutes of this, one of the cooks nervously asked, "Excuse me, Dr. Einstein, we sure enjoy your company but shouldn't you be getting back to your meeting?" Einstein said, "Oh, no, you wouldn't believe what you can get away with when they think you're absent-minded."

I LOVE IT! Unfortunately, I really AM absent-minded sometimes, and I'm no Einstein!

222 1389  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:35:22am

re: #217 Ghengis Khan

Oh and did anyone notice that the "intellectual utopia" meant working only 5 hours a week? AKA, if you are smart, you will be lazy.

Liberals are the ones that push the idea of getting rid of people that aren't "wanted" and that don't contribute to society. Working 5 hours a week would count as that to me. Send em' to Siberia.

From what I've heard, Siberia isn't that bad a place if you are well paid for whatever you are doing, and properly equipped for the climate. Scenery and wildlife are beautiful.

Better idea: Send them to the other side of the moon, where we can't get radio transmissions from them.

223 Occasional Reader  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:35:23am

re: #219 so.cal.swede

Isn't it funny/ironic how socialist liberal's dream utopia is the worst possible scenario of a class-based oppression system?

Like the saying goes: That's not a bug, it's a feature.

224 beholden  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:38:15am

Here's the letter I sent to Mr. Rall

Dear Ted Rall

This correspondence is in regards to your comic strip detailing the "supposed" intelligence level of our troops.

First, let me tell you that I respect the license our constitution grants you to be as vile and hateful as you wish to be. Which also grants me the right to point out how misguided your twisted sense of right and wrong are. Clearly, your representation of "insurgents" (I call them terrorists) is meant to show how noble they are in comparison to our savage and low-brow troops. You really wanted to call the insurgents "freedom fighters" I'd bet, but you couldn't bring yourself to be that overt in your support of our enemies. Do you think giving aid and comfort to our enemies in Iraq will help end the war one day sooner? It won't. None of your pathetic doodling will end the war, not your code pinks, not your moron.org's, not your Sean Penn's. It's all a waste of your time and leads to division. Which is ultimately what will cause us to falter. "A house divided cannot stand" ever hear that before?

Second, I'd like to thank the soldiers from the dawn of this country all the way up to present day, who have shed their blood and have given their lives so people like you can sit in your comfy chair and doodle. Casting stones about at good people who have "died" is a terrible thing and you should be ashamed of yourself. If there is even a slight remnant of a soul left in you, you will apologize to our troops and to the real Americans you have offended. Chew on this - if you would have depicted Muhammad in your cartoon, those you seek to comfort would have issued a Fatwa for your head. Alas! We can merely write you a letter and hope you gain some perspective and some common sense. But likely you won't.

Last, I'd like to thank you for perfectly illustrating how liberals truly feel about our troops. They say they support our troops by wanting to bring them home, but is that really support? Hardly. You cannot support the troops without supporting their mission. The mission they volunteered for, the mission that many are still signing up for because they believe in it. You are not better than a one of them and you haven't even one tenth the heart or bravery that they do.

In closing I'd like to ask you if you think peace is possible? Do you really believe peace is as simple as America bringing home troops from around the globe? If only it was that easy I'd support it myself. But you are kidding yourself if you think peace for the sake of peace will lead to anything other than war. God bless and enjoy the blanket of freedom our military provides you.

225 Captain Dubious  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:46:56am

Here is Ted Rall's justification on the issue . . .

Sunday, October 21, 2007

Cartoon for October 22

In Mike Judge's cult film "Idiocracy" (a must-see for cultural elitists everywhere), stupid people breed at a faster rate than smart ones until, 500 years later, the U.S. has been reduced to utter moronitude.

Which got me thinking.

Perhaps, though it's hard to imagine why, a perfectly intelligent person might have joined the military early in the Bush Administration. Four years into Iraq and six years into the meatgrinder of Afghanistan, however, it's fair to say that only a less than brilliant person would sign away his life for, literally, nothing. (Save your e-mails, righties: citing "patriotism" as a reason to enlist doesn't work. French patriots didn't fight for the Vichy regime during World War II. They joined the resistance. A patriot would have nothing to do with the military while the White House is occupied by an illegitimate coup leader.)

Anyway, if the carnage continues in Iraq for another 500 years, it stands to reason that the average I.Q. of those who remain behind will increase. Thus this cartoon...

It can be found here on his rant excuse page

226 missviolin  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:49:47am

Lt. Michael P. Murphy - enough said

227 ethanxxx  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:50:38am

Personally, as a professional artist, cartoonist, illustrator and man of good taste... that boy has No Talent... at all! It looks like he's drawing with his eyes closed and I've never found any of his elementary commentary worth printing. He is to Art what Bobby Calvan is to journalism... worthless as a thimble full of hamster vomit... and just as easy to get rid of.

228 Cy_Kologis  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:52:11am

First: deriding Ted Rall is like shooting fish in a barrel. It's too easy of a target. So why bother?

Second: I find it instructive to note the praise of the professionalism and intellegence of the officers and enlistedmen by those who have been embedded with soldiers, or otherwise have been "on the ground" in Iraq. Contrast that to the opinion those who spend their time being affirmed of the OK-ness in their left-wing romper rooms. One opinion is derived empirically, the other out of smoke.

229 Idle Drifter  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:52:21am

re: #220 1389

re: #94 zombie


You think Rall cares about our put-downs of him? He's too busyt re-arranging his awards and trophies.

From wikipedia:


Rall's cartoons have won the 1995 and 2000 Robert F. Kennedy Journalism Awards and the Society of Professional Journalists Deadline Club Award. He won the 2002 James Aronson Award for Social Justice Graphics. His book Real Americans Admit: The Worst Thing I've Ever Done! won first prize from the Firecracker Alternative Press Awards, his Orwell parody "2024" was named a Best Book of the Year by Amazon.com, and his graphic travelogue To Afghanistan and Back was named as one of the American Library Association's Best Books of the Year.
Rall was a 1996 Pulitzer Prize finalist.
He is President-Elect of the Association of American Editorial Cartoonists.
Rall won Second Prize in the Cartoon category of the 2007 Association of Alternative Newsweeklies Awards.[17] Also in 2007, his book "Silk Road to Ruin" picked up First Prize in the New York Book Festival Competition in the Comics/Zines category.[18] He took Second Prize in Lambda Legal's "Life Without Fair Courts" cartoon contest.[19]]

Read it and weep.

Typical of the left-wing mafia. Constantly giving each other awards that make them look better than they are. Just like the Nobel "Peace" Prize.

But they do sure looked shocked when the rest of us think they're shallow minded idiots despite their trophy rooms full of honors. Ted Rall is everything attached to his name and there's nothing really to add except he better not wonder into a Marine Corps Birthday Ball or the like cause he's not a pinata but I'm sure the Marines, Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Police, or Fire Rescue would try to prove otherwise.

230 Cy_Kologis  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:54:15am

Yes, I know. I misspelled intelligence. PIMF!

231 mondoreb  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 11:59:55am

Tedrall.

500 years from now, no will remember or know what a Tedrall was.

Ted Rall & Idiots: Look in the Mirror, Buddy
John Kerry and Tedrall, two of a kind.

232 lurking faith  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 12:01:15pm

Ted Rall deserves every nasty thing I could ever think of to say about him (with the probable exception that I doubt he has ever personally committed any violent crimes).

This sophomoric, sneering scribble is exactly what one would expect from him.

But what really irritates me here is the note on the right-hand exterior of the cartoon: "Apologies / Hat tip to Mike Judge". I really wonder what Mike Judge thinks about having his name tacked on to this piece of garbage, even in the most indirect way. As far as I know, Judge isn't an America-hating leftie. (Or did I miss something?)

I'm fairly sure the reason Rall mentions Mike Judge is the movie Idiocracy, which had someone wake up 500 years in the future and discover that morons had outbred the intelligent. But anybody who wants to use a sci-fi theme should know that this idea originated long ago. I remember a Golden Age story called The Marching Morons, for example. (And Woody Allen made a little film called Sleeper. And The Time Machine used a similar idea. And... I'll stop now.) So crediting Judge as the source for this idea just underlines Rall's general ignorance.

233 peeved  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 12:03:58pm

re: #225 Captain Dubious

I just read the comments on his "rant" about this cartoon and now I really need a shower. The level of anti-military feelings and antisemitism is mind-boggling.

234 unclassifiable  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 12:12:36pm

Drive by posting:

Here's Ted and the L**3's wet dream...

First the Islamisofacist kill all the Social Conservatives (hey and if the "freedom fighters" kill all the Rethuglicans that's OK too -- shouldn't be hanging out with the church nazis eh?)...

But then they will have this vast beautiful country but no way to run it except for us Socialist.

So the enlightened peaceful Socialist will be asked to save the world by the savage unschooled freedom fighters on bended knee.

/yeah -- that'll work

235 TalkinKamel  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 12:22:03pm

Poor little Ted! He knows, deep down, he's really not worth much, so he consoles himself with the fantasy that all those big, bad jocks---er soldiers, who were so mean to him in High School---uh, wait, who are being mean to Iraqis, will get what's coming to them, and everybody will then really see him as the smart, wonderful guy he really is, and somebody will actually date him!

Zombie, you're the best, but I have to disagree with you here; despite all his awards and the adulation heaped on him by the Left, I suspect Ted does care very much what others think about him. A.) He knows, deep down, he's got no real talent, that he's only liked by his "fans" because he echoes their opinions; if he ever swerves from the party line, they'll drop him, and--- B.) It's obvious, from the hate he regularly vomits up, that he's keenly aware of his own inadaquacies, jealous of men who actually can do things (probably jealous of women, too), and the only way he can deal with his pain is to strike out wildly at the society he believes has failed him. All the awards and prizes he's gotten obviously haven't made him feel one bit better about himself.

236 TalkinKamel  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 12:22:54pm

And, yes, I do believe it is time for someone clever out there to start spoofing Ted Rall.

237 cygnus  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 12:25:05pm

re: #35 ROPMA

Ted Rall spotted in public.

It would be more accurate if the dog was taking a poop at the time.

238 TalkinKamel  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 12:30:23pm

Hmmm, can any legal-eagle Lizards out there tell us if there'd be any legal dangers in spoofing Ted Rall?

239 akrav  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 12:39:04pm

that's horrible, he really grinds my gears

240 mondoreb  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 12:40:04pm

re: #236 TalkinKamel

And, yes, I do believe it is time for someone clever out there to start spoofing Ted Rall.

Good idea.
The only bad thing is...
you hate to give the nimrod any attention.

241 ackomanyuki  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 12:49:31pm

This asshat has been on my "people I would love to meet in a dark alley in a lawless third world hellhole list" for years, way before Iraq. His juvenile attempts at deconstructionist radical bullshit in independent 'alternative' rags has caused me to hone a blade for an hour or so as a release for well over decade or better.

He dreams of a five hour work week and 4D dissipation, and furthermore; probably considers that type of existance enlightened and developed? Must really suck to be such a delusional little commie bitch.

242 Trent_Boyett  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 12:49:59pm

It's a neccessary evil that our brave troops have to fight and die for the rights of assholes like Rall.

243 Cygnus  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 1:00:11pm

re: #191 NY Nana

The detestable Ted Rall's 'take' on Pat Tillman, a true American hero, and the follow up...

Despicable. I'd pay to see this creep try to give a speech to a group of Special Forces guys.

244 Cygnus  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 1:04:44pm

re: #224 beholden

Excellent letter! He'll probably file it under 'hate mail', though.

245 Bubblehead II  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 1:08:36pm

So I am an idiot because I joined the Navy, completed a self paced basic electricity and electronics course in 4 weeks, completed an advanced electronics "A" school (9 weeks of sheer mathematical hell for someone who ignored it in high school) and then completed another 9 week course on a radar intercept/analysis system and then another 4 week course on submarine periscope systems and then spending the next 8 years either operating and repairing them at sea or repairing them and other equipment while on shore duty? BTW For those of you who haven't attended a service technical school, they try to shove 2 years of college level instruction in to 9-18 weeks on average. Burn out is not an option

The only thing most "normal" people (including my mother who nearly fainted when she saw the movie Grey Lady Down and was told that is was a fairly accurate depiction of what would happen if my boat sunk in shallow water) thought was idiotic about my whole naval career was that I volunteered to go to sea on board ships that was designed to intentionally sink and were built by the lowest bidder

Ted Ralls is'nt a idiot. He is a (deleted) MORON!

246 docremulac  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 1:11:12pm

This is the view of almost all liberals and leftists but most are intelligent enough to shut up about it.

It's important to expose what the left really thinks and he actually does a great service for our country by being too stupid to keep his mouth shut about the left's real mindset. Besides, I'm more sick of leftists spewing this "we support our troops... but" crap when most of those who say that are actually in agreement with this douchbag.

247 mattm  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 1:19:51pm

Making jokes abotut how he thinks it is funny that the "insurgents" job is too easy because our troops die. Real F*ing funny. In wonder how funny he would think it is if someone he loves died that way. Ted Rall is a !

248 NamDoc67  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 1:26:08pm

This thing obviously does not know anyone in the military. Why would any of them want to associate with him?
May he never have the privilege; especially when his sorry ass needs to be protected by better men than himself.

249 Catttt  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 1:36:51pm

Just got off the phone with Ted Rall's editor. Nice lady. Of course, Mr. Rall has the right to do this stuff, but as Sue (the editor) said before I could, his stuff tends to turn more people against his opinion that to it. Nothing substantive, but I asked her to remind him of that. Of course, his whole style is totally nasty and negative and mean, and I doubt he'll change because Sue or I tell him that.

I was the first person to call her. She's had two e-mails so far.

The receptionist (nice lady) told me she doesn't like his stuff at all and never buys newspapers any more because of all that MSM brainwashing stuff - ha ha ha. :) This will only increase, to the point where only other MSM liberals will support Mr. Rall's work, but they're the ones who buy the syndicated items, aren't they - not us, and not the editors, and not the receptionists.

250 Backstaber  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 2:00:44pm

Screw the guy. Never read his "cartoons' anyway.

251 NamDoc67  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 2:02:48pm

re: #221 1389

My favorite - true - Einstein story: as part of his divorce settlement, he gave his ex-wife the cash stipend that goes with the Nobel Prize - a substantial amount.

Except the divorce was final in 1919. And the Nobel prize was not awarded until 1921!

Not only smart, but confident.

252 Underzog  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 2:06:28pm

I found this cartoon about Ted Rall and it's really good

"There's no need to fear. Underzog is here."

253 TalkinKamel  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 2:13:37pm

#241 ackomanyuki

I know, I know---Ted-the-englightened one's vision of a highly intelligent, advanced world is a world where we piddle our lives away with games, and no real work, or responsibilities. Sounds like the dream of a slacker, living in his mom's basement.

#252 Underzog

LOL! Love it!

254 mike_w_long  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 2:28:08pm

Disgusting.

I'd say it's a tribute to the stability and intelligence of U.S. soldiers that none of them have curb-stomped Ted Rall yet.

255 NY Nana  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 3:43:25pm

re: #243 Cygnus

I'd pay to see this creep try to give a speech to a group of Special Forces guys.

Or even a group a group of new enlistees...

Wouldn't it be delightful to see him chatting with a group of 10-year olds, whose Dads or Mums were serving in Afghanistan or Iraq? They would really let him know what he is.

But he is so stuck on stupid that I doubt it would do any good.

256 Tigger2005  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 4:06:59pm

I question the reasoning behind posting this crap.

Ted Rall is a nothing, a nobody, a sad, sagging, empty sack (except when he's filled with shit). These stupid cartoons are his desperate cry for attention. "The U.S. is winning in Iraq ... everyone is ignoring me ... I must DO something!" So he draws some puke like this cartoon, and what happens? It gets posted on LGF and other conservative blogs and we all rant and rave about it, and the media picks it up, and once again Ted Rall, the empty, rotting, stinking sack, is the center of attention.

Instead of being picked up with a stick & dropped into a landfill, as usually happens with filthy empty sacks.

257 jamsler  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 4:25:11pm

As loathsome as tedrall is, I have to admit that it was he who crystallized my opinion of leftards. It was one of his hateful screeds a few years ago that opened my eyes to the insanity that's overtaken the left in this country.

I detest him with every fiber of my being. My loathing transcends time and space. It exists on all scales and resonates across the cosmic branes.

But what the hell do I know, anyway? I'm one of those idiots that decided to serve. You don't have to be smart to repair missile guidance systems, or put a round on target on the other side of a mountain.

Seeing tedrall savaged on this thread is one of the purest joys I can experience.

FCC, USN (ret)

258 Da Coyote  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 4:44:01pm

I formally challenge tedrall to do ANY of the things I've done in my career. In return, I propose do do anything that he has done. We'll see where the IQ falls. What a maroon...but then again, as FCC so brilliantly put it, I'll just sit here with my infinite hate across the cosmic branes. (Note to the idiot journalist/cartoonist...we ain't talkin' about cosmic thinkers there.)

259 Carolyn  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 4:47:08pm

I didn't know ___ could draw.
/fill with appropriate filthy term.

260 Captain Dubious  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 5:07:01pm

I am not making this up . . .

Straight from the "love me" page on his web site, a quote from his copious list of dubious achievements is a reference to a Gen X rant he wrote:

. . . established him as one of America's leading spokesperson for the disenfranchised and alienated.

What I especially liked on this page were his college career highlights, which just gloss over the fact that he flushed 3 years of college down the tubes (in physics, no less) because he found drawing stick figures more tantalizing.

But fret not, for he later went back and finally got his BA degree - in history (there's a joke in there, but I just can't seem to get the bat off the shoulder).

261 OneGyT  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 5:23:32pm

I thought the Left was always saying that the troops don't support the war?

262 Dirty Patriot  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 5:42:44pm

The disgusting anti-military angle has been covered, so let be just bitch about something else--

Nice touch having the "I heart sports" T-shirt in there on the "idiot".

An ignorant twit like this guy would be the last to understand that sports are one of the best things for exercise, clarity of the mind, and a sense of self worth, especially for young folk. (Let alone something to keep them out of trouble.)

Picked last for the dodgeball games on the playground much, asshat?

263 UncleSam  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 6:19:14pm

What a vile, smug, ignorant creature Rall is.

264 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 7:54:13pm

re: #218 so.cal.swede

is the guy demented or what?

[Link: www.gocomics.com...]

That piece of shit Rall can't even spell- "feiry"? No such word. I think the loser meant "fiery"...

265 Abu Al-Poopypants  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 8:13:08pm

If I'm allowed to say "DIAF, Rall", then:
DIAF, Rall.

266 siiras  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 8:33:34pm

Here's how a leftoid like Rall "reasons":

"I, Ted Rall am brilliant.

I would never in a million years risk my life for anyone else or for any cause, especially not for my country which I despise.

Therefore, the American Armed Forces are stupid".

In actual fact, as has been alluded to earlier in the thread, the average education level for the U.S. military is slightly higher than for the general population.

And Ted Rall is a moron.

267 Jito463  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 8:46:41pm

re: #17 lawhawk

Rall, you are a reprehensible, sad, little man, who wouldn't know honor and duty if it hit you upside the head.

It would be fun to test by letting some Marines hit him upside the head.

Oh, you meant figuratively.

268 jwbaumann  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:02:37pm

I wish him ill.

May he have a barbed wire colonoscopy.

May maggot poop plug his tear ducts.

May he walk on quicksand in heavy shoes.

I much prefer the Sweden Democrats.

269 wun wabbit wun  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:04:53pm

RALL is a girly-man. When the time comes for him to be protected I hope none of our soldiers save his sniveling self.

270 Jito463  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:15:48pm

re: #269 wun wabbit wun

RALL is a girly-man. When the time comes for him to be protected I hope none of our soldiers save his sniveling self.

On the contrary, I'd hope for the opposite. It would give the troops the moral high-ground.

271 Jito463  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 9:37:30pm

I just send the following e-mail to content@uclick.com (the host that apparently owns GoComics). That's much more productive than sending them to Ted Rall directly.

Vile "cartoon" on your network

[Link: www.gocomics.com...]

This cartoon is the most vile piece of work I have ever seen. For you to host this speaks volumes. For him to state that every one of our troops who have fought and died overseas in Iraq and Afghanistan is an idiot is appalling, to say the very least. Those men and women are fighting and dying to protect freedom, including HIS freedom. They're not stupid. They know exactly what they're doing and why they're doing it. For him to defame our troops in this fashion is disgusting. If you do not take this comic down, then you will be complicit in his defamation and just as guilty of insulting and attacking our brave men and women in uniform. Heed my warning and nip this in the bud before it comes back to bite you in the rear.

272 mefolkes  Thu, Oct 25, 2007 10:35:23pm

Clowns like Rall love to make references to Mensa. When I challenge them with my membership in that organization, they either shout childish denials of the truth of my claim or suddenly dump on the group they brought up. They just can't handle any evidence of intelligent people being conservative. Did anyone else notice the poll results that Democrats believe in UFOs and the spooky supernatural more than the American public in general (at the same time as they deride traditional religion).

273 Mr. Beamish  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 1:47:34am

A little bit over 1.5 million US military personnel have done at least 1 tour in either Afghanistan or Iraq since the war on terrorism began.

At this writing, 4287 of them have died (0.2858%) and 28276 have been wounded (0.1885%), which yields a war on terrorism casualty rate of 0.4743%. Or if you prefer, a 99.5257% war on terrorism survival rate.

It's going to take a lot more death to make Ted Rall a genius.

274 mikevp  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 6:59:13am

Ted Rall is such a reprehensible sack of slime, I think it's a grevious mistake to give his excretions any attention at all. I'd just as soon never see any of it, here or elsewhere.

275 victor_yugo  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 7:11:39am

The deluded can't know they're delusional.

Hence, Ted Rall.

276 American Soldier  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 7:45:38am

That [deleted] [deleted] [deleted] [deleted] [deleted] [deleted] son of a two-dollar syphilitic whore.

277 Solly  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 6:31:53pm

There's nothing wrong with Ted Rall that couldn't be fixed with an aluminum baseball bat.

278 ZK273  Fri, Oct 26, 2007 6:51:35pm

Ted Rall is the absolute lowest form of life there is. Yes, lower than even amoebae, paramecia, and White House Press Corps members. We as a species are lessened for having him as one of our own.

279 Praetyre  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 12:27:40am

To Ted Rall:

[Link: www.guymacon.com...]

280 Sandi  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:37:50am

I heard he is a flaming homosexual...is that true? Does anyone know?

281 Sandi  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 6:48:54am

Where is the outrage like the leftist painted Rush?

Where is the Reid letter to this A$$ Lice?

Where is the newspapers this piece of Sh1t writes for?

I hope this low life never loses a child...he should apologize to all families!

And where is the editor of these papers who let their editorial page re-print this?

And doesn't anyone think he is a lousy cartoonist? O do...I have seen MUCH better...his style is gay...and I think he maybe leaning that way IMO

282 Praetyre  Sat, Oct 27, 2007 3:31:28pm

re: #280 Sandi

I heard he is a flaming homosexual...is that true? Does anyone know?

I think he's too depraved to have human sexuality anymore. At best, he kisses Qur'ans


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