TwitterFacebook

Sources for Pim Fortuyn ‘Fascist’ Quote

• Views: 2,467

If you’ve been following the misleading claims put out by Vlaams Belang supporters such as Brussels Journal, you probably noticed that they’re now saying that assassinated Dutch politician Pim Fortuyn was a supporter of Vlaams Belang, and never called Filip DeWinter a ‘fascist,’ as cited by Wikipedia.

Two European readers have now emailed links to sources for this quote. The first is Blokwatch: Nationale webstek over het Vlaams Belang - De extreem-rechtse internationale. It’s in Dutch, of course, but the pertinent section is readable anyway, and is credited to the Belgian newspaper De Morgen:

De liefde lijkt echter van maar één kant te komen. ‘Ik heb het Vlaams Belang niet nodig’, riposteerde Wilders (De Morgen, 29.1.2005). Daarmee ontspint zich dezelfde situatie als met wijlen Pim Fortuyn het geval was. Dewinter en tutti quanti – nochtans tegenstanders van het homohuwelijk – maakten Fortuyn constant het hof, terwijl Fortuyn er alles aan deed om niét met het Blok geassocieerd te worden. Hij ergerde er zich aan vergeleken te worden met heren van het slag Le Pen of Dewinter: ‘Die mannen zeggen dingen die je niet kunt maken. Dewinter is een fascist. Ik ben een beschaafde man. U zult mij niet horen zeggen: ‘Eigen volk eerst’ (De Morgen, 4.5.2005).

The second source is lvb.net—whose owner, Luc Van Braekel, is the webmaster of Brussels Journal: Fortuyn over België en Dewinter.

[Bij het afscheid blijkt hoe geobsedeerd Fortuyn is door de veelgemaakte vergelijking met Le Pen en Dewinter.] Die mannen zeggen dingen die je niet kunt maken. Dewinter is een fascist. Ik ben een beschaafde man. U zult mij niet horen zeggen: ‘Eigen volk eerst’. En ben ik niet veel sympathieker dan Dewinter?

A Babelfish translation: Fortuyn concerning Belgian Dewinter.

[ At the farewell proves to be how obsessed Fortuyn are by much-made comparison with Le pen and Dewinter. ] Those men say things whom you cannot make. Dewinter is a fascist. I am a civilised man. You will not hear me say: ‘ own people firstly ‘. And I not are much more sympathetic than Dewinter?

UPDATE at 11/5/07 9:26:03 am:

Michael Van Der Galiën (for whom you should vote in the Weblog Awards) emailed a better translation of Fortuyn’s statement:

“Those men say unacceptable things. DeWinter is a fascist. I’m a civilized man. You won’t hear me say: ‘own people first.’ And am I not much more sympathetic than DeWinter?”

Also, Pim Fortuyn’s brother was interviewed about the decision of Dutch politician Nawijn and DeWinter to start a think tank in Fortuyn’s home: “People have to realize that Philip DeWinter still flirts with the extreme right.”

Marten Fortuyn was upset about the association because he knew what his brother thought of DeWinter.

Here’s the link in Dutch.

Michael Van Der Galiën also has some words of his own on this matter:

For what it’s worth: every Dutchman knows that you’re right. Fortuyn only defended DeWinter when the latter was attacked by people, etc. His message was: they’re fascists, but fascists have a right to speak out as well.

When will Paul Belien retract his misleading post?

^ back to top ^

TwitterFacebook

Turn off all ads for a full year by subscribing!
For about 33 cents a day (per month) or 22 cents a day (per year), our subscription option turns off all advertisements at LGF!
Read more...

► LGF Headlines

  • Loading...

► Tweeted Articles

  • Loading...

► Tweeted Pages

  • Loading...

► Top 10 Comments

  • Loading...

► Bottom Comments

  • Loading...

► Recent Comments

  • Loading...

► Tools/Info

► Tag Cloud

► Contact

You must have Javascript enabled to use the contact form.
Your email:

Subject:

Message:


Messages may be published unless you request otherwise.
Tech Note:
Using the Contact Form
LGF Pages

This button leads to the main index of LGF Pages, our user-submitted articles. You can post your own LGF Pages simply by registering a free account with us.

Create a Page

This is the LGF Pages posting bookmarklet. To use it, drag this button to your browser's bookmark bar, and title it 'LGF Pages' (or whatever you like). Then browse to a site you want to post, select some text on the page to use for a quote, click the bookmarklet, and the Pages posting window will appear with the title, text, and any embedded video or audio files already filled in, ready to go.

Or... you can just click this button to open the Pages posting window right away.

Last updated: 2014-03-07 2:19 pm PST

LGF User's Guide
Recent Pages
_RememberTonyC
Qatar, Bergdahl, and Hamas
One thing we have learned in the current conflict is that Hamas has three main sponsors: Turkey, Iran, and Qatar. So when Bergdahl was released and the five taliban bigs were released into the "custody" of Qatar, we basically handed ...

2 hours, 13 minutes ago
Views: 60 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 0
Randall Gross
Android Crypto Blunder Exposes Users to Highly Privileged Malware
The majority of devices running Google's Android operating system are susceptible to hacks that allow malicious apps to bypass a key security sandbox so they can steal user credentials, read e-mail, and access payment histories and other sensitive data, ...

13 hours, 11 minutes ago
Views: 179 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 10 • Rating: 1
Skip Intro
Outside Money Drives a Deluge of Political Ads
WASHINGTON -- An explosion of spending on political advertising on television -- set to break $2 billion in congressional races, with overall spots up nearly 70 percent since the 2010 midterm election -- is accelerating the rise of moneyed ...

1 day, 12 hours ago
Views: 192 • Comments: 1
Tweets: 4 • Rating: 3
Rightwingconspirator
Washington, D.C., Handgun Carry Ban Is Ruled Unconstitutional
I agree. Bans are not an option. Jurisdictions like DC will just have to deal with the fact that regulation is the path. Bans don't work. Bans are illegal and unwise. It's simple. we as a society have chosen to ...

2 days, 8 hours ago
Views: 490 • Comments: 95
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 5
Romantic Heretic
Preventing Poverty Not Allowed As A Goal for Charity
The Canada Revenue Agency (Canada's equivalent of the IRS) has told OXFAM Canada that it cannot list 'preventing poverty' as a goal, only 'alleviating' it. The reason is "Relieving poverty is charitable, but preventing it is not." This is just ...

4 days, 9 hours ago
Views: 470 • Comments: 12
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 4
FemNaziBitch
Safer Era Tests Wisdom of ‘Broken Windows’ Focus on Minor Crime
While the apparent chokehold fueled much of the initial public outcry, community leaders have begun asking whether focusing police officers so intently on such petty offenses makes sense in a city that is far different and far safer than ...

4 days, 16 hours ago
Views: 353 • Comments: 2
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 1
Mentis Fugit
Frisson
Over at the quirky Riddled blog, I encountered this music video link. I have the album, but I had last listened long ago, and I had forgotten the lyrics. The lengthy, moody intro slowly drew me back thirty five years, ...

1 week ago
Views: 259 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 0
BadExampleMan
The painful futility of war
This makes me furious. These men pledged their loyalty to their country and their country betrayed them. It treated them as disposable, throwing their lives away in a war that was premised on lies, that was chosen gleefully, and that ...

1 week, 1 day ago
Views: 433 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 1 • Rating: 1
MichaelJ
Mick Fanning Wins J-Bay Open 2014
More: MICK FANNING WINS J-BAY OPEN Finals day for the contest was run in perfect Supertubes conditions. Too bad Kelly Slater and Jordy Smith were eliminated in lesser quality surf - it would have been amazing to have both of ...

1 week, 2 days ago
Views: 344 • Comments: 0
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 2
Thrazidun
Paris: Jews Fight Back Against Islamist Mob - Jewish World - News - Arutz Sheva
More: Paris: Jews Fight Back Against Islamist Mob - Jewish World - News - Arutz Sheva

1 week, 4 days ago
Views: 1,010 • Comments: 5
Tweets: 0 • Rating: 2
 Frank says:

You can tell what they think of our music by the places we are forced to play it in. This looks like a good spot for a livestock show. -- April 1968, Chicago, Mothers of Invention open for Cream