Rudy!

Pat Robertson apparently doesn't get all his answers from scripture.

I like that.

But Giuliani can't get the support of the Christian right! The mainstream media told me so!

Go Rudy. I can't say that Robertson is my favorite person, but if it will influence social conservatives, good!

All things considered, I really can't say this is good news for Rudy.

In a way, it's like a restaurant getting four stars from Typhoid Mary.

Yep, Charles, I was kinda surprised as well. I wonder what this portends for 08?

RON PAUL!

RUDY! He actually has a chance to win, for pete's sake.

Or as Hillary will say, "who will rid me of this turbulent priest?"

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re: #10 MandyManners

So you like Rudy?

re: #10 MandyManners

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I think its a good thing. Maybe with both Rudy and Romney getting endorsements from evangelicals, we can begin to talk substance...

But then again, waybe that's just hoping...

re: #11 jcm

sorry, couldn't help myself.

you may need an exorcism

Ron Paul just announced he's gotten the key Osama endorsement, along with a pledge of $5 million.

Sooo...who you supporting Mandy?

re: #10 MandyManners

Not really sure of your point...

/

re: #10 MandyManners

I concur!

re: #14 coquimbojoe

I think its a good thing. Maybe with both Rudy and Romney getting endorsements from evangelicals, we can begin to talk substance...

But then again, waybe maybe that's just hoping...

PIMF, PIMF, PIMF...

Charles, this ought to be interesting, since Mitt Romney has picked up a couple of notable endorsements from evangelicals and fundamentalists. It's all a matter of who they believe can beat Hillary.

Let's see if he gets an endorsement from the Minutement!

/wishing...

re: #4 rw in san diego

Go Rudy. I can't say that Robertson is my favorite person, but if it will influence social conservatives, good!

I'd consider myself a social conservative, and I don't consider Pat Robertson's opinion on any matter, or of any import.

Sometimes, I think I understand how the "black community" feels when Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are consistently (s)elected as speaking for them.

re: #16 JammieWearingFool

Ron Paul just announced he's gotten the key Osama endorsement, along with a pledge of $5 million.

Is that $5 million worth of opium?

re: #21 Ward Cleaver

zactly.

re: #23 OldLineTexan

Hear hear!

How ya doing Old Line?

re: #13 jcm

I'm afraid Hunter doesn't have a chance. I think he'd be a great president. Perhaps this campaign will introduce him to the American people. I certainly hope so.

re: #24 Ward Cleaver

re: #16 JammieWearingFool

Ron Paul just announced he's gotten the key Osama endorsement, along with a pledge of $5 million.

Is that $5 million worth of opium?

His supporters had to sell off a lot of SS memoribilia to get there, by darnit, they pulled it off!

re: #15 phoenixgirl

re: #11 jcm

sorry, couldn't help myself.

you may need an exorcism

We had a local race, I didn't like any of the candidates so I wrote in Ron Paul. Only vote he's ever gonna' get from me.

Some LGF readers get upset when I point this out, but Pat Robertson is the very epitome of an idiotarian...

--Charles Johnson, "Robertson Does It Again," littlegreenfootballs.com, 11/11/2005

re: #27 rw in san diego

re: #13 jcm

I'm afraid Hunter doesn't have a chance. I think he'd be a great president. Perhaps this campaign will introduce him to the American people. I certainly hope so.

I know, but every vote Hunter gets in the primaries is a vote for a party shift to the right, and getting more conservative platform planks.

re: #23 OldLineTexan
You got it. It may even be used against Rudy by some folks on the left.

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re: #23 OldLineTexan

re: #4 rw in san diego

Go Rudy. I can't say that Robertson is my favorite person, but if it will influence social conservatives, good!

I'd consider myself a social conservative, and I don't consider Pat Robertson's opinion on any matter, or of any import.

Sometimes, I think I understand how the "black community" feels when Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are consistently (s)elected as speaking for them.

Robertson says some flat-out stupid things sometimes, and sometimes he says out loud things that lots of other people are just thinking - like how somebody ought to whack Chavez.

re: #23 OldLineTexan

Uh oh! You mean you don't think this endorsement will help Rudy? I hope you're wrong.

re: #27 rw in san diego

re: #13 jcm

I'm afraid Hunter doesn't have a chance. I think he'd be a great president. Perhaps this campaign will introduce him to the American people. I certainly hope so.

The MSM doesn't want Duncan Hunter.

re: #36 Ward Cleaver

re: #27 rw in san diego

re: #13 jcm

I'm afraid Hunter doesn't have a chance. I think he'd be a great president. Perhaps this campaign will introduce him to the American people. I certainly hope so.

The MSM doesn't want Duncan Hunter.

Ain't that the truth.

re: #26 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Middling well, thank you. We will be grandparents in February, so there is that excitement. Hope you and yours are well.

I am still hoping for a chance to vote for Duncan Hunter, at least in the primary. Having this election decided already has me somewhat depressed. Of course, I went and voted in the Lost Cause election yesterday, so maybe it's just my wallet giving me these shooting pains in my lower regions.

re: #36 Ward Cleaver

That's for sure!

I like Duncan Hunter, as well as most of the candidates, but he doesn't have a realistic shot.

He would make a good cabinet secretary, perhaps.

Mixed feelings. I'm glad if this will help Rudy pick up social conservative support. OTOH, I hope Robertson doesn't influence Rudy much.

re: #30 Dar ul Harb

Some LGF readers get upset when I point this out, but Pat Robertson is the very epitome of an idiotarian...

--Charles Johnson, "Robertson Does It Again," littlegreenfootballs.com, 11/11/2005

That's right -- I'm not a fan of Robertson.

re: #38 OldLineTexan

Is this your first grandchild? We are so excited because we expect our first grandchild in May.

re: #38 OldLineTexan

re: #26 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Middling well, thank you. We will be grandparents in February, so there is that excitement. Hope you and yours are well.

I am still hoping for a chance to vote for Duncan Hunter, at least in the primary. Having this election decided already has me somewhat depressed. Of course, I went and voted in the Lost Cause election yesterday, so maybe it's just my wallet giving me these shooting pains in my lower regions.

WA State did pretty well, we had a bit of tax revolt up here. Big rail and transit package went down, allow school levies a simple majority went down, legislative tax increases required to have a super majority won.

re: #41 Occasional Reader

I don't see that happening.

re: #34 Ward Cleaver

Ward, you're right about Pat. And one of the signs of maturity is the ability to not have to blurt out every stray thought. Pat, by that measure, needs to grow up.

I think Pat is selected as a spokesman by the media to make "me" look bad. They have a lot of tar, and some big brushes.

Oh, you mean that Pat Robertson.

re: #35 rw in san diego

re: #23 OldLineTexan

Uh oh! You mean you don't think this endorsement will help Rudy? I hope you're wrong.

Now that you mention it...I guess that is a concern I have.

I hope I am wrong, too.

I'm surprised too.

GO RUDY!

Pat Robertson may be hard to tolerate but he's savy. He knows that a Hillary presidency certainly won't do his causes any good. Some of the other evangelicals better wake up and smell the coffee.

re: #38 OldLineTexan

re: #26 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Middling well, thank you. We will be grandparents in February, so there is that excitement. Hope you and yours are well.

I am still hoping for a chance to vote for Duncan Hunter, at least in the primary. Having this election decided already has me somewhat depressed. Of course, I went and voted in the Lost Cause election yesterday, so maybe it's just my wallet giving me these shooting pains in my lower regions.

I know what you mean re: Hunter and yesterday's lost cause elections. Well, at least Prop 3 passed! Now if we can just get the caps down to 3%!

Oh, and Yay! about the grandkiddo, Old Line.

re: #43 rw in san diego

re: #38 OldLineTexan

Is this your first grandchild? We are so excited because we expect our first grandchild in May.

Yes, first one. Had better be the only one for a while; she's 21, the next girl is 17. ;)

re: #42 Charles

Wasn't implying otherwise. I agree with your earlier remark.

(And it certainly doesn't hurt to reiterate the point, lest some hatchling gets the wrong idea.)

re: #51 taxfreekiller

Actually, the one concern I have about Rudy is that I question if he'll be strong enough on border issues. I don't see how he can justify a weak stand on border security and a strong position in the war on Islamofascism.

Charles, I am not a big fan of Robertson either, but he isn't a total nutcase. Look into his charitable work. An idiotarian shakes down the gov't and big corporations for money. Robertson gets people to give him money, then he distritbutes cash and goods to those in need.

re: #10 MandyManners
What you said.

re: #40 JammieWearingFool

I like Duncan Hunter, as well as most of the candidates, but he doesn't have a realistic shot.

He would make a good cabinet secretary, perhaps.

Secretary of Homeland Security? Or ambassador to Mexico? :-0

Tancredo would be good in either of those posts, as well.

re: #54 OldLineTexan

I can understand your position. My kids are in their 30's and have been married for more than five years. I AN READY TO BE A GRANDMOTHER! I can't wait for our new little one.

Pat Robertson's endorsement will help Rudy get some of the crazy conservative vote...and a few little old church ladies as well.

[Link: www.thestormtrack.com...]

Robertson is an idiot... like anyone really listens to him!

He would give up all Christian beliefs.. to defeat Hillda beast... the man spends too much time making weird milkshakes...

re: #40 JammieWearingFool

I like Duncan Hunter, as well as most of the candidates, but he doesn't have a realistic shot.

He would make a good cabinet secretary, perhaps.

I like to dream VP.

re: #46 OldLineTexan

re: #34 Ward Cleaver
I think Pat is selected as a spokesman by the media to make "me" look bad. They have a lot of tar, and some big brushes.

I think you're right. I barely know who he is, don't know what he does and can't really recall anything he's said, but if I identify myself as an evangelical Christian, then somehow he and I are some monolithic bloc in some people's minds.

re: #22 uncle_monkey

Let's see if he gets an endorsement from the Minutement!

/wishing...

How can you ever think/wish that into exsistance? If he gets an endorsement from the Minutemen, I'm just going to give up. On everything. Seriously.

re: #16 JammieWearingFool

Ron Paul just announced he's gotten the key Osama endorsement, along with a pledge of $5 million.

It is not true, however, that Ron Paul has gotten endorsed by aliens. I've been busy keeping the aliens from interfering; unfortunately, Kucinich saw my ship.

re: #57 Dave the...

Charles, I am not a big fan of Robertson either, but he isn't a total nutcase. Look into his charitable work. An idiotarian shakes down the gov't and big corporations for money. Robertson gets people to give him money, then he distritbutes cash and goods to those in need.

I agree, he's a mixed bag. He's definitely not a bad guy, he just says some stupid things.

Contrast him with Jesse Jackson.

I'd rather have a republican president to criticize than a democratic president to fear. It's going to get ugly from here on until the election, But if we stay united, we can win. There's a lot at stake. Go Rudy.

re: #10 MandyManners

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re: #67 JamesTKirk

unfortunately, Kucinich saw my ship.

And that's because you guys signed that incredibly stupid "no cloaking technology... for us" treaty with the Romulans. I warned you about that.

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re: #42 Charles

re: #30 Dar ul Harb

Some LGF readers get upset when I point this out, but Pat Robertson is the very epitome of an idiotarian...

--Charles Johnson, "Robertson Does It Again," littlegreenfootballs.com, 11/11/2005

That's right -- I'm not a fan of Robertson.

You're supposed to like every Conservative, Charles. I like every Conservative.

re: #61 taxfreekiller

Take a look at what happen to Bush and McCain the last 4 years after they went off for the wage slaves and am-nasty, if Rudy does get elected and goes off like his history says he will, the very same thing will happen once more, do we want 4 more years of grid lock in the congress and the borders still open. Until Rudy comes to the table and signs in blood that he will close the borders and end the wage slave invasion all you are doing is allowing 4 more years of sinking in the same mud.

OMG. Taxfree Killer's Best Post EVAR.

I agree, obviously. I can't see how Robertson can reconcile a Christian view on [the topic which shall not be mentioned at LGF] and Rudy. And the border thing? and some other leftist stuff. Rudy is no conservative, and if you're ok with that, then that's up to you. I'm not bashing any Rudy folks...but I just don't agree with everything the guy believes in. But I will go and vote for him if he's the only thing between Hillary and the White House.

Robertson is looking to get back into the precincts of power, and understands that Rudy will fight the Islamofascists more potently than most of the other "serious" candidates.

re: #10 MandyManners

re: #13 jcm

re: #70 bluegrass boy

Gee, where's the "lameness" filter when we need it?

re: #71 Occasional Reader

re: #67 JamesTKirk

unfortunately, Kucinich saw my ship.

And that's because you guys signed that incredibly stupid "no cloaking technology... for us" treaty with the Romulans. I warned you about that.

Blame the civilian politicians; I worked hard to steal that cloaking device and turn it over to Scotty, and the politicians decided that we'd never get to use it.

Re #30: Charles, I didn't know you had a Little Red Book.

re: #73 Globular Cluster

You're supposed to like every Conservative, Charles. I like every Conservative.

Reagan's Eleventh Commandment does have some limitations.

I'm not a big fan of Rudy, but I'll never forget him running for his life with his fellow New Yorkers on 9/11, or when he told the Saudis to shove their check where the sun doesn't shine. And I won't forget the firemen and other first responders booing and cursing Hillary at the Concert for New York.

Plus, he never had his shot after cancer forced him to bow out in Round One of Giuliani vs. Clinton. High time for a rematch.

re: #47 Dar ul Harb

Oh, you mean that Pat Robertson.

We were attacked on 9-11 because:

We have allowed rampant pornography on the Internet, and rampant secularism and the occult, etc. to be broadcast on television. We have permitted somewhere in the neighborhood of 35-40 million unborn babies to be slaughtered by our society.

(...)

We have insulted God at the highest level of our government. Then, we say, "Why does this happen?" It is happening because God Almighty is lifting His protection from us. Once that protection is gone, we are vulnerable because we are a free society.

A vindictive God killed innocent people to "teach" us a lesson? Why not put the blame on Bin Laden and the Islamofascists for the attacks?

re: #76 Dar ul Harb

re: #10 MandyManners

re: #13 jcm

re: #70 bluegrass boy

Gee, where's the "lameness" filter when we need it?

I blame the lack of caffeine.

re: #71 Occasional Reader

re: #67 JamesTKirk

unfortunately, Kucinich saw my ship.

And that's because you guys signed that incredibly stupid "no cloaking technology... for us" treaty with the Romulans. I warned you about that.

Was Ron friends with Betty and Barney Hill?

I heard them on a local radio talk show here in Dallas (Ed Busch) back in the early '70s. Very interesting couple.

re: #76 Dar ul Harb

re: #10 MandyManners

re: #13 jcm

re: #70 bluegrass boy

Gee, where's the "lameness" filter when we need it?

i use it to ignore you!

re: #77 JamesTKirk

re: #71 Occasional Reader

re: #67 JamesTKirk

unfortunately, Kucinich saw my ship.

And that's because you guys signed that incredibly stupid "no cloaking technology... for us" treaty with the Romulans. I warned you about that.

Blame the civilian politicians; I worked hard to steal that cloaking device and turn it over to Scotty, and the politicians decided that we'd never get to use it.

And then the frakking civilian politicians decided they were going to hand over a few of our worlds to the frakking Cardassians.

re: #74 Owl

re: #61 taxfreekiller

Take a look at what happen to Bush and McCain the last 4 years after they went off for the wage slaves and am-nasty, if Rudy does get elected and goes off like his history says he will, the very same thing will happen once more, do we want 4 more years of grid lock in the congress and the borders still open. Until Rudy comes to the table and signs in blood that he will close the borders and end the wage slave invasion all you are doing is allowing 4 more years of sinking in the same mud.

OMG. Taxfree Killer's Best Post EVAR.

I agree, obviously. I can't see how Robertson can reconcile a Christian view on [the topic which shall not be mentioned at LGF] and Rudy. And the border thing? and some other leftist stuff. Rudy is no conservative, and if you're ok with that, then that's up to you. I'm not bashing any Rudy folks...but I just don't agree with everything the guy believes in. But I will go and vote for him if he's the only thing between Hillary and the White House.

Dittos. I'd even consider voting for Satan over Hillary. But I'd really have to think about it.

Even as a social conservative, this means nothing to me personally, but is interesting. I was bothered by some evangelicals almost hoping for a Hillary presidency and the "bunker mentality" that would come of knowing everyone is against you and the trying times that would bring. I'm not there at all.

This "endorsement" would be a kiss of death for many voters, not that Rudy is lacking more than a few negatives, already.

I see that the Conservatives for Hillary are always very active. Good for their health.
But nonetheless:

GO RUDY ! ! !

As one of those "social conservatives" everybody talks about, I am actually not a big fan of Pat Robertson. He sticks his big foot in his even bigger mouth a bit too much for my taste.

re: #61 taxfreekiller

... the very same thing will happen once more, do we want 4 more years of grid lock in the congress and the borders still open. ...

grid lock in congress = good
open borders = bad

Pakistan, Bhutto & the Bomb

The Pakistanis had not only “crossed the line” as the saying went in Washington’s nuclear precincts. They had actually prepared bombs for delivery. More importantly, in relation to the current crisis, the whole scenario had been carried out without Bhutto even knowing what had happened.

“I think it is criminal that the Prime Minister, who is ultimately responsible in the eyes of the people and in the eyes of history, should not be taken into confidence on such a major issue.” She told NBC two years later. “I did not know.”

Bhutto in fact had not just been Prime Minister. She was Defense Minister and Atomic Energy Minister as well.

The decision had been taken by the Army chief of staff, Mirza Aslam Beg, and the country’s president, Ghulam Ishaq Khan. The presidency then, unlike now, was more of a ceremonial post. Both had been proponents of the Pakistani bomb program, which ironically had been started by Bhutto’s father when he had been prime minister. Khan in fact had run the program.

Bhutto also found out in a most unorthodox way. In late June, two long time American friends of hers had come to Islamabad to tell her what happened. Peter Galbraith, then the south Asia specialist on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and Mark Siegel, her Washington lobbyist, took her to a garden outside her offices in the Pakistani capital to inform her.

The news Galbraith and Siegel had delivered took Bhutto by surprise, but she knew the consequences. The United States now had the proof it needed to cut off aid to Pakistan under a law called the Pressler Amendment, and ultimately the US did just that.

A few weeks later, the US ambassador delievered the news to her. Robert Oakley informed her that US law required a cutoff in aid to Pakistan if it possessed a “nuclear explosive device” and demanded that Pakistan reverse the process.

Around the same time, US officials flew to Islamabad while Bhutto was on a state visit to the Gulf States to warn Ishaq Khan and Beg there was no way Pakistan could win a war with India and that continued nuclear brinksmanship would risk a catastrophe.

Bhutto, unaware of the US meeting, contacted Ishaq Khan to relay Oakley’s warning and three times called for a meeting of the top-secret committee that ran the nuclear weapons program. Each time Ishaq Khan said he would get back to her. She also asked Beg for an explanation as well and he promised one would be forthcoming.

Neither happened, but on Aug. 6, less than three months after Pakistan had begun the process of building a bomb, Bhutto was deposed. With the world’s attention then focused on Saddam Hussein’s four-day old occupation of Kuwait, Ishaq Khan went on Pakistani television to denounce Bhutto’s government as corrupt and incompetent.

“I have no proof of this,” Bhutto later told NBC News, “but I feel that someone may have turned on the switch in the spring of 1990 to justify the dismissal of my government.” She called it a “nuclear coup.”

Tammy Bruce isn't exactly a big fan of Robertson, either.

re: #78 chinesearithmetic

Re #30: Charles, I didn't know you had a Little Red Book.

Ya mean like this one? Lots of wisdom in that book.

koslings: Giuliani loses even more 9/11 cred

Don't get me wrong, the man had no credibility on 9/11 to begin with. Between radios that failed, costing hundreds of lives, and his confusion of Yankee Stadium with ground zero, he doesn't have chinks in his 9/11 armor, he has entire pieces missing.

Today, another one of the few remaining pieces is going to fall off, as he accepts the endorsement of Pat Robertson.

They really don't like Rudy.

Rudy, I think, will be tough on national security, which is good...but tends to be socially liberal, which some conservative purisits may not like, but it is a hell of a lot better than Hillary or Obama...

Also, I think he would clean Hillary's clock in the general election. After her last debacle of a performace on the Dem debate, the mask is slipping off. She has no idea what she is talking about if it isnt prescripted...so Tim Russert asks a legit question, and "wahaaahaaa you guys are all ganging up on me because I am a woman"...

Yeah, that lady is capable of making tough decisions in a time of war...God help us if she wins...

re: #72 Ward Cleaver

*looks askance at Ward*

re: #86 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Actually, I had to think that one out before I typed it.

I'm an evangelical and pro life.
But I also have common sense and reason..thanks to LGF and Oriana Fallaci.

Meanwhile, Little Hitler celebrates firing up 3000 centrifuges today, and we've had a Hans Blix sighting.

The clock be ticking.

re: #85 The Other Les

And then the frakking civilian politicians decided they were going to hand over a few of our worlds to the frakking Cardassians.

Not to mention that court-martial they should have given Janeway as soon as she got back.

re: #99 jzm

I'm an evangelical and pro life.
But I also have common sense and reason..thanks to LGF and Oriana Fallaci.

I'm a semi evangelical lapsed Catholic who is pro life. I also have common sense and reason. I know that if the religious right says home or throws their vote to a third party candidate then we won't have a country at all. Sometimes you have to take the longer path toward a goal.

re: #27 rw in san diego

Who is this Hunter fellow you speak of?

re: #75 profitsbeard

Robertson is looking to get back into the precincts of power, and understands that Rudy will fight the Islamofascists more potently than most of the other "serious" candidates.

Right. The important take-home point here is that Robertson's acceptance of Giuliani indicates a shift from recent trend among conservative Christians to eschew centrist Republicans or simply not vote. It indicates that some in the Christian leadership understand the priority of combating Islamic terror and that they can compromise on a candidate who may not share their views on some issues (abortion, gay marriag, divorce, etc). This is important and most welcome, whether you like Pat Robertson or not.

Wow... Pat Roberston endorses Giuliani... man... did I wake up in the "other" America this morning?

re: #78 chinesearithmetic

Re #30: Charles, I didn't know you had a Little Red Book.

Si Monumentum Requires, Circumspice.

re: #100 JammieWearingFool

Meanwhile, Little Hitler celebrates firing up 3000 centrifuges today, and we've had a Hans Blix sighting.

The clock be ticking.

Where is Hans? Up Dinner Jackets' arse?

re: #86 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

"I'd even consider voting for Satan over Hilliary"
Well only after seeing them both on stage together and I was sure it wasn't Hilliary incognito!

re: #100 JammieWearingFool

Meanwhile, Little Hitler celebrates firing up 3000 centrifuges today,

Hey, an alignment of interests! I'm in favor of firing up Iran's centrifuges, too.

BTW, those of you reaming on Robertson too much, I'm not a huge fan, but...

Operation Blessing International is a nonprofit organization that provides humanitarian aid in the form of food, clothing, medicine, and financial assistance to help disadvantaged people and disaster victims throughout the world.

Operation Blessing has provided nearly $500 million in aid -- which includes Operation Blessing donations and matching funds from other organizations -- to assist nearly 130 million people in 50 states and 71 foreign countries.

Politics makes for strange bedfellows.

Hot Air has the video.

Robertson had made some odd claims about 9/11 IIRC, and was properly castigated for them. It will be interesting to see how Rudy deals with that.

What this does suggest is that religious conservatives aren't going to throw support to a third party candidate knowing that such a move might result in a leftist elected President as some suggested.

Then again, I don't know how much difference this will make in the end. Most often, endorsements aren't worth more than the paper they're written on.

re: #103 mad_scientist

Congressman Duncan Hunter, who is a Republican presidential candidate.

re: #108 Nevergiveup

re: #86 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

"I'd even consider voting for Satan over Hilliary"
Well only after seeing them both on stage together and I was sure it wasn't Hilliary incognito!

LOL. It's hard to tell the difference isn't it?

"The overriding issue before the American people, is the defense of our population against the bloodlust of Islamic terrorists," Robertson told the National Press Club audience.

I'm glad somebody is calling them on their bloodlust.

Seven killed at Finland school after YouTube post

YouTube seems to be quite the home for mass killers.

re: #109 Occasional Reader

re: #100 JammieWearingFool

Meanwhile, Little Hitler celebrates firing up 3000 centrifuges today,

Hey, an alignment of interests! I'm in favor of firing up Iran's centrifuges, too.

'friad you're gonna' need a MOP!

And now for something completely different:

Pucker up!

That is good news & suprising. Robertson might be able to help fight the notion of Evangelicals staying home for the General Election.
But I believe that Rudy should try real hard to limit public apperances with him.
I think that most people including me consider Pat Robertson to be a loon.

re: #113 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #108 Nevergiveup

re: #86 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

"I'd even consider voting for Satan over Hilliary"
Well only after seeing them both on stage together and I was sure it wasn't Hilliary incognito!

LOL. It's hard to tell the difference isn't it?

No. Satan likes men. Hillary likes women.

re: #95 Sharmuta

The Kossacks can't help but blame Rudy for failures with technical equipment that had been problems for years. Oh, and Bloomberg's still dealing with the radio issue - it isn't quite completely fixed yet.

re: #101 JamesTKirk

re: #85 The Other Les

And then the frakking civilian politicians decided they were going to hand over a few of our worlds to the frakking Cardassians.

Not to mention that court-martial they should have given Janeway as soon as she got back.

But nooo! They hav to promote her to flag rank!

re: #119 JamesTKirk

re: #113 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #108 Nevergiveup

re: #86 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
"I'd even consider voting for Satan over Hilliary"
Well only after seeing them both on stage together and I was sure it wasn't Hilliary incognito!

LOL. It's hard to tell the difference isn't it?

No. Satan likes men. Hillary likes women.

I thought Satan was Bi.

re: #66 Owl

re: #22 uncle_monkey

Let's see if he gets an endorsement from the Minutement!

/wishing...

How can you ever think/wish that into exsistance? If he gets an endorsement from the Minutemen, I'm just going to give up. On everything. Seriously.

Oh, that's an easy one. 77% of the population wants something/anything done about immigration? Not getting some blanket amnesty or DREAM act or licenses or something else for illegals shoved down our throats? And Rudy likes his sanctuary cities? And the minutemen are only observers and trying to protect people's property? Maybe you don't live in a city or town that is overrun with "undocumented workers", haven't had somebody run into you and just split, or know anybody in a border area who's had their property vandalized, used as a bathroom or kitchen as they were passing through.

Sorry, but this to me and an awful lot of people I know is priority #1 right now, stop the flow and enforce current laws is all we ask.
Butt simple.

re: #106 Dar ul Harb

Requiris, PIMF.

I held my nose and voted for a Repub in our Governor's race (KY) yesterday that I felt wasn't the best. ( Many Repubs stayed home) He lost and the state is back in the Dems hands. Although I feel Rudy is not the best we could do, I will vote for him if he is the nominee. I just hope the same result doesn't repeat itself.

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re: #118 opnion
Are you some kind of loonophobe?

re: #95 Sharmuta

koslings: Giuliani loses even more 9/11 cred
They really don't like Rudy.

No, they sure don't.
Giuliani is a Murderous Liar

By going straight to full-blown GDS, all these idiots are doing is boosting Rudy's conservative creds, exactly where he needs the most help.

Keep it up, moonbats.

re: #92 Kenneth

Bhutto's playing with fire. She thinks she can handle the Islamofascists by joining with them to sideline Musharraf and the military. I think the best course is for her to follow Sharif back into exile.

re: #95 Sharmuta

koslings: Giuliani loses even more 9/11 cred

Don't get me wrong, the man had no credibility on 9/11 to begin with. Between radios that failed, costing hundreds of lives, and his confusion of Yankee Stadium with ground zero, he doesn't have chinks in his 9/11 armor, he has entire pieces missing.

Today, another one of the few remaining pieces is going to fall off, as he accepts the endorsement of Pat Robertson.

They really don't like Rudy.

Rudy Derangement Syndrome has a long history in NYC. The newcomers to this pathology bring their BDS reserves.

So, gee, do ya think Robertson is hitching his horse to the man who appears most like to win the nomination? Robertson--a rank and cynical opportunist? If Robertson wants to endorse Giuliani, fine. I would be even more concerned if Rudy in some fashion endorsed Robertson his God-Hates-and-Hurts-People rhetoric. Robertson is like a Fred Phelps Lite who condemns people on television instead of at funerals.

I'm kind of with Tammy on this. "Opportunist" was what I was thinking too.

re: #96 mad_scientist

Rudy, I think, will be tough on national security, which is good...but tends to be socially liberal, which some conservative purisits may not like, but it is a hell of a lot better than Hillary or Obama...

Also, I think he would clean Hillary's clock in the general election. After her last debacle of a performace on the Dem debate, the mask is slipping off. She has no idea what she is talking about if it isnt prescripted...so Tim Russert asks a legit question, and "wahaaahaaa you guys are all ganging up on me because I am a woman"...

Yeah, that lady is capable of making tough decisions in a time of war...God help us if she wins...

It appears that the Donks believe that being unfit to hold an office is a qualification for an elected office.

re: #97 Dar ul Harb

re: #72 Ward Cleaver

*looks askance at Ward*

So much for my spelling.

Rudy Ruettiger

Let the 'bats play their Rudy hands early; in a few months they'll have nothing left but to defend The Pantsuit.

And we've got endless material to work her over with.

I have to work now. BBL

Pat Robertson also has a history of some shady dealings with Liberian gangster & genocider Charles Taylor over diamond mines. And guess who else is involved with Liberian diamond smuggling? Al Qaeda.

IMHO, Pat Robertson is a nasty evil son of a bitch and a con man.

Has Algore formally endorsed Dennis "I had a close encounter of the 3rd kind" Kucinich yet?

Howard Dean was riding high in late 2003 until Al endorsed him. Within 36 hours, Dean had plummeted 30 points in the polls.

I don't think Kucinich can plummet 30 points, though. It's hard to go from 1% to -29%.

re: #86 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #74 Owl

re: #61 taxfreekiller

Take a look at what happen to Bush and McCain the last 4 years after they went off for the wage slaves and am-nasty, if Rudy does get elected and goes off like his history says he will, the very same thing will happen once more, do we want 4 more years of grid lock in the congress and the borders still open. Until Rudy comes to the table and signs in blood that he will close the borders and end the wage slave invasion all you are doing is allowing 4 more years of sinking in the same mud.

OMG. Taxfree Killer's Best Post EVAR.
I agree, obviously. I can't see how Robertson can reconcile a Christian view on [the topic which shall not be mentioned at LGF] and Rudy. And the border thing? and some other leftist stuff. Rudy is no conservative, and if you're ok with that, then that's up to you. I'm not bashing any Rudy folks...but I just don't agree with everything the guy believes in. But I will go and vote for him if he's the only thing between Hillary and the White House.

Dittos. I'd even consider voting for Satan over Hillary. But I'd really have to think about it.

A Hillary by any other name is still satan

re: #130 NoSubmission

re: #95 Sharmuta

koslings: Giuliani loses even more 9/11 cred

Don't get me wrong, the man had no credibility on 9/11 to begin with. Between radios that failed, costing hundreds of lives, and his confusion of Yankee Stadium with ground zero, he doesn't have chinks in his 9/11 armor, he has entire pieces missing.

Today, another one of the few remaining pieces is going to fall off, as he accepts the endorsement of Pat Robertson.

They really don't like Rudy.

Rudy Derangement Syndrome has a long history in NYC. The newcomers to this pathology bring their BDS reserves.

So is it RDS or GDS?

This is big. I don't like Pat Robertson much better than Tammy Bruce does (even though I'm a bit of a social conservative), but this means that at least part of the evangelicals will hold their nose and vote for Rudy rather than vote a 3rd-party candidate (cfr. noises by James Dobson) or stay home.

Otherwise, we might as well start preparing for a Hillary presidency right now...

Keep in mind guys, Bush won 2004 in part because he had a boob like Jean-Fraud Ketchup running against him. Whatever your views about Hillary/Hildebeest, she is a dead serious contender.

If Rudy becomes president (please G-d), we'll have at least four more years of GDS on lefty-talk radio, Olbermann, Mathews, etc. But we ought to be used to it by now. Honestly, we'd miss it. Donchathink?

re: #134 JammieWearingFool

And we've got endless material to work her over with.

I can see that someone is very uncomfortable with the idea of women in power.

/moonbat logic

re: #139 Ward Cleaver

I had a post about the Kos Kidz and GDS over the weekend.

A smooth segue from BDS to GDS.

I think we should start calling him his Crusader name:

Rudy the Lionhearted

He kicked Arafat out of Lincoln Center. He tore up the Sheik's $10 million check.

That is all ye need to know.

re: #130 NoSubmission

Rudy Derangement Syndrome has a long history in NYC.

"It's Giuliani time!"

Yeah, the RDS (like BDS) only paused briefly after 9/11.

re: #120 lawhawk

Apparantly, it was a surprise, and Rudy's fault, that portable radios didn't work deep inside a large concrete & steel structure. Every fire department in the world struggles with that problem every day.

re: #140 Former Belgian

Really? Exactly what executive experience has she ever had?

re: #143 Occasional Reader

re: #134 JammieWearingFool

And we've got endless material to work her over with.

I can see that someone is very uncomfortable with the idea of women in power.

/moonbat logic

Tell it to my wife, mother and five sisters.

re: #131 Sharmuta

"Opportunist" was what I was thinking too.

Oh, I completely agree. And in a way, by posting the endorsement on his website, Rudy is also being an opportunist. But... there's a lot at stake here.

I don't recall which Lizard posted it the other day, but I liked it:

Giuliani 08: All the Right Enemies!

re: Tammy Bruce's update

The pull quote:

So, does this mean Robertson thinks Giuliani deserved to get prostate cancer?

re: #143 Occasional Reader

re: #134 JammieWearingFool

And we've got endless material to work her over with.

I can see that someone is very uncomfortable with the idea of women in power.

/moonbat logic

I am not. Is Maggie Thatcher an American Citizen. As old as she was, she still gave the best speech at Ron's funeral!

re: #145 Cato

I think we should start calling him his Crusader name:

Rudy the Lionhearted

He kicked Arafat out of Lincoln Center. He tore up the Sheik's $10 million check.
That is all ye need to know.

So true.

re: #153 Nevergiveup

How I WISH we could have a President Maggie Thatcher (or her equivalent).

re: #154 NoSubmission

re: #145 Cato

I think we should start calling him his Crusader name:Rudy the Lionhearted

He kicked Arafat out of Lincoln Center. He tore up the Sheik's $10 million check.
That is all ye need to know.

So true.

Or his Yiddish name
Rudy the Mensch

Great catch Tammy! That's why I like her.

What is with all the pouting and sour grapes from Tammy Bruce? Pat Robertson is simply about like 60 or 70 percent of conservatives, he is able to distinguish what he would like, from what can be done. And Fighting the Islamofacists is number one, without that all the arguments about social issues mean nothing. And the whining that some Christians make the same argument that senators of Rome made; that the decline and destruction of a civilization comes from within first I see as an anti-Christian bias, it is not a honest look at what each individual has done with their "so called," freedom, as history repeatedly shows that any culture that loses its founding morality, loses everything to the barbarian.

It looks to me she is upset that Robertson is not the crazy fundamentalist she had painted into a corner, and that makes her madder than if those that will not fight the Islamofacists win the election. So much for the sophistication of the secularists.

Don't get me wrong, the man had no credibility on 9/11 to begin with. Between radios that failed, costing hundreds of lives, and his confusion of Yankee Stadium with ground zero, he doesn't have chinks in his 9/11 armor, he has entire pieces missing.

Actually the terrorists crashing planes into the WTC is what cost "hundreds of lives", not failed radios.

re: #112 rw in san diego

Being that I am in school on the weekends and work fulltime, havent been following the political scene to much lately. First I have heard of the...not getting much media attention I guess...

re: #136 Kenneth

Pat Robertson also has a history of some shady dealings with Liberian gangster & genocider Charles Taylor over diamond mines. And guess who else is involved with Liberian diamond smuggling? Al Qaeda.

IMHO, Pat Robertson is a nasty evil son of a bitch and a con man.

Back in the day, when Charlie Taylor was teamed with Roy Jefferson, they were the best WR tandem in the NFL.

re: #145 Cato

That is all ye need to know.

Well... no, I don't agree. Those are good things, but not all you need to know.

Good G*d, I can't take any more. I used to love Rudy... now this! First, I read about Rudy's alleged (gay) child molesting Catholic buddy, and now the superfreak poster boy of the far right is tagging on his coat tails. I wouldn't cross the street to piss on Pat Robertson. Laugh at him - sure - but I find the man utterly revolting. Every time I see or hear him I taste bile in my mouth.

If Rudy dipped himself in sh*t I don't think I could find him less appealing at the moment.

re: GDS in NYC

Friggin Giuliani!

I like the picture of Tammy Bruce with a microphone and a gun.

re: #123 uncle_monkey

re: #66 Owl

re: #22 uncle_monkey

Let's see if he gets an endorsement from the Minutement!
/wishing...

How can you ever think/wish that into exsistance? If he gets an endorsement from the Minutemen, I'm just going to give up. On everything. Seriously.

Oh, that's an easy one. 77% of the population wants something/anything done about immigration? Not getting some blanket amnesty or DREAM act or licenses or something else for illegals shoved down our throats? And Rudy likes his sanctuary cities? And the minutemen are only observers and trying to protect people's property? Maybe you don't live in a city or town that is overrun with "undocumented workers", haven't had somebody run into you and just split, or know anybody in a border area who's had their property vandalized, used as a bathroom or kitchen as they were passing through.

Sorry, but this to me and an awful lot of people I know is priority #1 right now, stop the flow and enforce current laws is all we ask.
Butt simple.

Whoa there. I think you misread me.

The Minutemen are the very meaning of Liberty. I'm all for them, and I support them every chance I get...I don't know what your post is about - but I think you took me the wrong way.

Rudy is anything but a "close the borders" candidate, and if a group as conservative as the Minutemen gives their weight to a candidate that is ok with harboring illegal aliens, then I don't see any reason to fight for what I believe to be right anymore. it's over. ya know?

Maybe I worded it wrong, I dunno.

You know, I don't like to make too many posts with "you know, my candidate is...", but Fred would do everything we're hoping(some of us anyway) for in a President. He's just not as flashy and polished as Rudy - but I believe he'd be just as good at mopping the floor with Hillary as Rudy would be. I guess Americans want a hollywood President though, and substance is an afterthought for alot of people out there on the left and the right.

Anyway, I hope I cleared that up for ya. If I had the money, I'd be out there with them, helping them defend the border in person. I believe in what they are doing, and I wish the government believed in it more.

Well, we could always hope for a Hunter (my choice for POTUS) and Thompson ticket, just to screw with the moonbats' cranial matter (can't call that stuff that keeps their eyes from falling into their skull "brains", now can we?)

Hunter f Thompson for President! Real "Fear and Loathing" in the White House!

"...dude, waitaminnet, izzent that Thompson mofo dead? I dunno either, Moonbeam. Hey, Sean, don't Bogart the bong, gimme it...and some Cheetos; I got a righteous hunger going on here."

/moonbat meeting

President George W. Bush called Afghan President Hamid Karzai on Wednesday to deplore a suicide bombing that killed dozens of children and lawmakers gathered at a sugar factory in Baghlan province north of Kabul

. He had to ask for that? [Link: www.jpost.com...]

re: #165 Ringo the Gringo

I like the picture of Tammy Bruce with a microphone and a gun.

I do not. She is violating Rule No. 1 of gun safety. (Or No. 2, or No. 3, depending on who you ask.)

Tammy Bruce needs to take a deep breath and relax.

It's a Presidential race, not the Debutante's Ball.

re: #164 Dar ul Harb

Oh, hell. That's not the video I was looking for.
Move along...

(Anyone got a link to the one where Giuliani is playing a cabbie and makes that famous statement?)

re: #161 Deafdog

re: #136 Kenneth

Pat Robertson also has a history of some shady dealings with Liberian gangster & genocider Charles Taylor over diamond mines. And guess who else is involved with Liberian diamond smuggling? Al Qaeda.

IMHO, Pat Robertson is a nasty evil son of a bitch and a con man.

Back in the day, when Charlie Taylor was teamed with Roy Jefferson, they were the best WR tandem in the NFL.

It ought to be obvious, but I'll say it anyway, Robertson's endorsement means others in the Christian right will be able to vote for Rudy, and not stay home on election day. Or not vote a 3rd party. That's a tremendous force, and could sway the election in the right direction.

If you want purity, vote...well...you can't. No one is pure. Except for the fantasy candidate in my head. (/s, I guess)

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Another ABM defense. This one a double hit. This is the Aegis or naval anti-ballistic missile system. Last month the land based AF system had a huge hit when it took out an intermediate range missile mimicking the NorKor stuff.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Wow! The demons come out, I thought Halloween was over. So what sort of Christian is acceptable? One that never confronts this sick society on its rampant immorality? Heck let the ACLU rule!

I have mixed feelings about this endorsement. I like Rudy and if this helps him get the nomination, then so be it. I don't like the Dem choices that much and Obama is a proto-dhimmi carter.

I like the fact that Rudy is more of a traditional republican and not one of these "the U.S. is a chirstian nation, founded by christians, and needs to have good christians on the bench." GOP'ers like Brownback and DeLay.

That's what worries me in the long run if Rudy is elected president. It seems that perhaps some on the far right are willing to sleep with the enemy (Rudy's pro-choice, more liberal social stances) so long as the next batch of SCOTUS nominees subscribe to the activist mindset that is constitutional originalism (See Thomas & Scalia).

Now, maybe I will get burned for this assertion since some republicans think these two are sweeter than a piping hot loaf of cinnamon bread, but one question I want to pose for those that adhere to this belief system, how the heck does an originalist, strict constructionist judge know exactly what the founders intended? Was he or she there at the time the ink was drying on the constitution? Did they have personal, or in this case, telepathic, discussions with the ghosts of Adams, Madison, Jefferson, and Gerry? I'm just tossing some ideas out here but I think that this school of constitutional thought is just as prone to activism and abuse as more liberal constitutional ideas.

Anyway, I'm digressing, I think there is some agreement between Robertson and Rudy regarding SCOTUS nominees and I'd be curious as to what that is. I was hoping that the next GOP candidate would get down to the business of defending this country than worrying about what some couple was doing in their bedroom.

This endorsement does not surprise me. I've seen a few vids of his CBN guest interviews with anti-jihad experts. He's far more clueful about the islamists than most of his peers. Certainly more than Ms Rice.

Yes, he's said some dumb things, but this compensates somewhat:

Interview With Walid Shoebat Part I
Interview With Walid Shoebat Part II

re: #166 Owl

Rudy is anything but a "close the borders" candidate

What exactly do y'all mean by "close the borders"?

re: #125 1SG(ret)

I held my nose and voted for a Repub in our Governor's race (KY) yesterday that I felt wasn't the best. ( Many Repubs stayed home) He lost and the state is back in the Dems hands. Although I feel Rudy is not the best we could do, I will vote for him if he is the nominee. I just hope the same result doesn't repeat itself.

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1SG, you had better get that state back into Repub hands before I retire for the second time and move there!

Albany, KY here I come in 10 years.

Oh and: Ron Paul!

In a letter to Osama bin Laden, published in the Kuwaiti daily Al-Watan, Kuwaiti MP Dr. Walid Al-Tabatabai, from the Islamic bloc in the Kuwaiti parliament, praised the jihad fighters' activities and advised him on avoiding mistakes in the jihad that Al-Qaeda is waging.
Al-Tabatabai's letter, which came in response to the speech by bin Laden that was broadcast on September 11, 2007, appealed to bin Laden to distinguish between fighting the American invader and attacking the Muslims, and to refrain from random operations which harmed innocents because such operations damaged the image of jihad and sabotaged the spreading of Islam. Al-Tabatabai also called on bin Laden to consult with Muslim clerics in order to reassess Al-Qaeda's activities and avoid mistakes in the future.

[...]

Al-Tabatai wrote: "...The author of this letter (i.e. Tabatabai) is one of those who appreciate and honor the jihad that you carried out during the liberation of Afghanistan from the Soviet Russian invasion... Your most recent speech, which the media broadcast several days ago, aroused in me many questions regarding its negative impact, considering that it was lacking a political dimension. Unfortunately, the speech was like a lifesaver to the American president, who is dealing with great internal pressures to withdraw his forces from Iraq... Thus, commentators said that Bush found what he wished for in this speech, since [bin Laden] provided [Bush] with clear-cut evidence of [the need] to restrain his adversaries: That is, the continued presence of the U.S. military in Iraq is for the sake of defending the entire American people from the ongoing Al-Qaeda threat... Your speech damaged all the efforts underway to speed up the American exit from Iraq – unless you are not interested in this!

"Also, Sheikh Osama, how can you preach to the American people [to join] Islam when you boldly acknowledge that you are behind the killing of thousands of them in 9/11? Don't you think... that this will arouse in them revulsion towards Islam? You must either call on them to join Islam by making them to want to, with beautiful words, or you must fight them. But when you declare war against them and fight them, and at the same time preach to them to join Islam – these two things do not sit well with each other; moreover, they will only increase [the Americans'] hostility towards the Muslims, their hatred of Islam, and their revulsion towards it."

[Link: jihadwatch.org...]

re: #169 Occasional Reader

You know, I knew someone would say that as soon as I posted the comment.

You are right, but somehow I still find the photgraph kind of sexy.

re: #167 Clutch

A Hunter/Thompson ticket... Fear & Loathing in the GOP?

re: #95 Sharmuta

koslings: Giuliani loses even more 9/11 cred

Don't get me wrong, the man had no credibility on 9/11 to begin with. Between radios that failed, costing hundreds of lives, and his confusion of Yankee Stadium with ground zero, he doesn't have chinks in his 9/11 armor, he has entire pieces missing.

Today, another one of the few remaining pieces is going to fall off, as he accepts the endorsement of Pat Robertson.

They really don't like Rudy.

What makes you say that?

:-)

re: #181 firebreather

re: #167 Clutch

A Hunter/Thompson ticket... Fear & Loathing in the GOP?

Heh...Good one!

Wow! The demons come out, I thought Halloween was over. So what sort of Christian is acceptable? One that never confronts this sick society on its rampant immorality? Heck let the ACLU rule!

Fine . . . let's do a Morality Background Check on EVERY potential Rudy voter. They can be the ones casting stones.

Charles,

Sorry if someone else already pointed this out. In your first update you credit the video to AP, the post was actually written by Brian over at HotAir.

Oh, I meant to ask, why do the koslings think that Rudy should be responsible for radios that failed? He's not God, after all. He's not even the electronics engineer in charge of manufacturing the radio supply.

Is that the best they've got?

I'm starting to feel confident that we can win this election. Thanks, Kos. You always pick up my spirits.

re: #174 jehu

Wow! The demons come out

Personally, I'd say blaming the 9/11 attacks on gays is pretty "demonic".

re: #123 uncle_monkey

re: #66 Owl

re: #22 uncle_monkey

Let's see if he gets an endorsement from the Minutement!/wishing...

How can you ever think/wish that into exsistance? If he gets an endorsement from the Minutemen, I'm just going to give up. On everything. Seriously.

Oh, that's an easy one. 77% of the population wants something/anything done about immigration? Not getting some blanket amnesty or DREAM act or licenses or something else for illegals shoved down our throats? And Rudy likes his sanctuary cities? And the minutemen are only observers and trying to protect people's property? Maybe you don't live in a city or town that is overrun with "undocumented workers", haven't had somebody run into you and just split, or know anybody in a border area who's had their property vandalized, used as a bathroom or kitchen as they were passing through.

Sorry, but this to me and an awful lot of people I know is priority #1 right now, stop the flow and enforce current laws is all we ask.
Butt simple.

If you look back at the Flanders White Power posts, you'll see the it looks like the Minutemen are connected with some White Power groups. They look like big boy scouts, but if they are into the White Power stuff, they're creeps in my book. What a let down.

re: #179 storagemanager

Dr. Walid of Kuwait, in praising bin Laden & al Qaeda, is speaking for... oh... about 98% of Middle Eastern Muslims.

Tiny minority of extremists, indeed.

re: #159 Dirk Diggler

Don't get me wrong, the man had no credibility on 9/11 to begin with. Between radios that failed, costing hundreds of lives, and his confusion of Yankee Stadium with ground zero, he doesn't have chinks in his 9/11 armor, he has entire pieces missing.

Actually the terrorists crashing planes into the WTC is what cost "hundreds of lives", not failed radios.

The whole radio think is a red herring. Comms within emergency services has been a long running "issue." Various areas of responsibility were allocated sections of the spectrum that was allocated to Local Agencies. The entire system grew up with all the agencies on different frequencies. The old Analog systems are not frequency agile, they weren't the computer control bases which can take the audio off one freq and move it to another.

When you are on different frequencies you can't talk to each other plan and simple.

Getting every one talking is highly complex and extremely complicated. You can't put everyone on a single freq, too many people talking. You can't give everyone a radio for every freq. Handhelds even high end have a limit of number of freqs. The is upgrading of the entire comms infrastructure, base stations, repeaters, comm centers.

It is only in the last decade with digital comms, computer controls that getting systems in place that really allow everyone involved is even possible. Actually getting the budgets, think 100s of millions for NYC, is another matter.

I'm loath to post anything from Time, but this isn't bad.

Outrage over Dubai Rape Case

Last July 14, Alexandre Robert, a 15-year-old French-Swiss youth living in Dubai with his hotel-manager father, was offered a ride home by an Emirati acquaintance from a beach club, where he was with a French friend. In the car were two local men. According to Alexandre, he was placed in the middle back seat, while the men drove the teenagers beyond the neon-soaked skyline and into the desert, where the three local men took turns raping him at knifepoint in the dark. His French friend was ordered to wait outside the car, and has told police he was not attacked. When the men finally deposited the distraught boys back in the city, they threatened to attack Alexandre's family if he dared report them to the police.

Despite that, Dubai officials reported three times that the two suspects were not infected with the HIV virus, according to French diplomats, even though that appears to be untrue. A document released by government officials to French diplomats in August showed that one man had tested positive while in prison four years ago. Alexandre will receive word only in January whether he was infected during the alleged attack. "There is a lot of malfunctioning, but from where I do not know," says a French diplomat in Dubai, explaining the bungling over the AIDS tests. In late October, the French foreign ministry added a warning for travelers about crime in Dubai.

Relax, folks, this is an intra-squad scrimmage, not a regular season game.

Iran-Martyrs-Ahmadinejad
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said here Wednesday that the country is more than ever in need of the culture of martyrdom, self-sacrifice and appreciation of martyrs, war veterans and the disabled.

Addressing a public gathering, President Ahmadinejad said culture of martyrdom and self-sacrifice would guarantee a bright prospect and prosperous life for the Iranian nation.

He said that the entire Iranian nation and mankind throughout history are indebted to martyrs, veterans and their bereaved families.

Elsewhere in his speech, Ahmadinejad said Iranian nation has today turned into a model for all the world nations and that's due to self-sacrifice and devotion of dear martyrs and war veterans.

[Link: www2.irna.com...]

Areopagatica 175

Now, maybe I will get burned for this assertion since some republicans think these two are sweeter than a piping hot loaf of cinnamon bread, but one question I want to pose for those that adhere to this belief system, how the heck does an originalist, strict constructionist judge know exactly what the founders intended? Was he or she there at the time the ink was drying on the constitution? Did they have personal, or in this case, telepathic, discussions with the ghosts of Adams, Madison, Jefferson, and Gerry? I'm just tossing some ideas out here but I think that this school of constitutional thought is just as prone to activism and abuse as more liberal constitutional ideas.

A constructionist would have read the Federalists papers at least, to see the thought that went into the Constitution, he would be aware of the times and culture and the education of the framers. He would not pull whole cloth out of the Constitution such things as a penumbra emanates from the document, allowing you to pull anything out of your ass to validate a current viewpoint. Roe v Wade would have never happened under Constructionists, neither would the recent takings decision allowing government to seize property if they can get higher tax returns from the new owners etc...

Pat Robertson and Osama Bin Laden are two sides of the same coin. Sure, Pat Robertson doesn't have a following that is willing to kill non-believers but he shares the same views as Bin Laden. I hope people forget about this endorsement by 2008, because this IS a kiss of death. Good thing he endorsed Rudy early.

Pat Robertson. Politics makes strange bedfellows, for sure.

His endorsement should carry no weight. His opinions should carry no weight. But we cannot afford to be so pure that we only accept support from those whose thinking is aligned 100% with our own, and is therefore correct across the board.

/sarc

Even he has figured that out.

re: #175 Areopagitica

Now, maybe I will get burned for this assertion since some republicans think these two are sweeter than a piping hot loaf of cinnamon bread, but one question I want to pose for those that adhere to this belief system, how the heck does an originalist, strict constructionist judge know exactly what the founders intended? Was he or she there at the time the ink was drying on the constitution? Did they have personal, or in this case, telepathic, discussions with the ghosts of Adams, Madison, Jefferson, and Gerry? I'm just tossing some ideas out here but I think that this school of constitutional thought is just as prone to activism and abuse as more liberal constitutional ideas.

News Flash: the Constitution isn't the only historical document that exists.

Most (all?) of those guys wrote a lot of stuff to indicate what they thought and the reasoning for various things. But, reading what all those dead-guys wrote is a lot harder than just making it up as you go to suite the current fancy.

re: #183 Ringo the Gringo

It could turn out to be a very bad mescaline trip in '08.

re: #181 firebreather

That was actually a cool movie...Johnny Depp played Hunter S Thompson...

The best character was "his attorney Dr Gonzo"...

re: #187 Occasional Reader

re: #174 jehu

Wow! The demons come out

Personally, I'd say blaming the 9/11 attacks on gays is pretty "demonic".

Actually, that was Falwell who did that.

re: #166 Owl

Gotcha.

Sorry!

I love ya man!

sniff.

Wait, so lesbians aren't responsible for 9/11?

It ought to be obvious, but I'll say it anyway, Robertson's endorsement means others in the Christian right will be able to vote for Rudy, and not stay home on election day.

Well, not exactly. It doens't "mean ...will be able to vote for Rudy"...i think some of you think that Christians sit around and wait to be told who to vote for and what to do and what dessert to ahve with dinner. Well, it just ain't so, folks. We are thinking individuals, most of us anyway :), and it simply means that Robertson thinks Rudy is the man for the job.

If you think Christians sit around and wait to be told what they can and cannot do( with perhaps one notable exception with regard to condoms, abortion, and what day you should eat fish ;) LOL ), you're a bit ignorant about the way most Christians view their Pastors/ministers. They are leaders, and if they're good honest men(or women) we look up to them, but we don't get "marching orders" from them. At least not the Christians I know that are actively involved with a church, or actively involved with their faith on a personal level. Of course, I'm just speaking on what I know...maybe there are some out there that wouldn't vote for Hunter unless they were told to...but I doubt that number could be very large if it exists at all. We're not muslims you know...we don't go to church on Friday to find out who we're supposed to love or hate that week.

i'd think Lizards would know better. *shrug...oh well.

Meanwhile the Hillary slide is real, and no a statistical coincidence. Down 10 points in NH. It appears that her evasive answers and attempt to blame the males of the species for her evasiveness has backfired. Now that is far more interesting than this story.
[Link: www.politico.com...]

After all, we don't know the background. For all I know Robertson plays golf with Rudy. It will make no difference to the electorate.

re: #186 American Jewess In Jerusalem

Oh, I meant to ask, why do the koslings think that Rudy should be responsible for radios that failed? He's not God, after all. He's not even the electronics engineer in charge of manufacturing the radio supply.

Is that the best they've got?

I'm starting to feel confident that we can win this election. Thanks, Kos. You always pick up my spirits.

The left, and especially the democratic candidate, will bring up all the dirt on Rudy; his personal life, divorces, etc. It'll get ugly. What they hate the most about him is that he did a very good and capable job in New York. His personal life may be messy, but he's a leader. And the democrats don't have someone to match Rudy's abilities. Watch for the mud.

So far I have no candidate for the '08 election that I can fully support. This doesn't help the matter for me either. I'm not sure this is a good move for Rudy. MHO is that this is just one more thing he will have to defend in the MSM.

Once again we, as a people are left with a choice of the "least of evils".

Just my $.02

re: #42 Charles

Charles -

The "Smell" is WINNER - That' what the good Reverend is smelling - AND - that is all.

-S-

re: #195 marwan's daughter

P

at Robertson and Osama Bin Laden are two sides of the same coin. Sure, Pat Robertson doesn't have a following that is willing to kill non-believers but he shares the same views as Bin Laden.

Robertson is nutty, bin Laden is Evil.

There is no comparison.

re: #169 Occasional Reader

Yep. I can think of several.

Keep your finger out of the trigger guard until ready to fire.
Alway know your backstop.
Treat every gun as if it were loaded.
Keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction when not in use.

(At least keep your finger out of the trigger guard, Ms. Bruce...)

re: #186 American Jewess In Jerusalem

It says a lot that they have to attack his "9/11 street cred"- they fear it.

I support Giuliani ( have voted for him three times so far), but there is one thing that he did that really disgusts me.

There was a police shooting- a group of four NYPD officers surrounded a mentally disturbed Hasidic man in Brooklyn,NY in front of his apartment The guy was holding a very small hammer over his head - people had complained about him, but he hadn't attacked anyone violently.

He didn't rush the cops or anything- he was standing motionless when they all opened fire at point blank range- many witnesses.

No cops were punished in any way, and Giuliani supported the cops 100%, never even hinting at the possibility that anyone might have done anything wrong. Hard to recall a worse miscarriage of justice - and there was no Jewish Sharpton to lead any marches or anything, of course.

re: #200 marwan's daughter

Actually, that was Falwell who did that.

Robertson was on the same broadcast, and agreed with him.

#199 mad:

That was actually a cool movie...Johnny Depp played Hunter S Thompson...

Personally, I hated it. Even though I got a few laughs from the book. The movie was just too... grindingly grotesque.

re: #191 YourTaxDollarsAtWork

The brave Muslim rapists of the pubescent French boy did their deed in a perfectly halal manner, in strict accordance with the Koran & its multiplicity of edicts about intercourse with slave girls, goats, and young boys.

The lovely houris of heaven are beautiful young boys there to serve the carnal desires of jihadists.

re: #198 firebreather

Hunter / Thompson '08 - Stop the bad craziness!

re: #154 NoSubmission

re: #145 Cato

I think we should start calling him his Crusader name:Rudy the Lionhearted

He kicked Arafat out of Lincoln Center. He tore up the Sheik's $10 million check.
That is all ye need to know.

So true.

And he broke the mob... that took major backbone.

re: #188 Sunlight

re: #123 uncle_monkey

re: #66 Owl

re: #22 uncle_monkey

Let's see if he gets an endorsement from the Minutement!/wishing...

How can you ever think/wish that into exsistance? If he gets an endorsement from the Minutemen, I'm just going to give up. On everything. Seriously.

Oh, that's an easy one. 77% of the population wants something/anything done about immigration? Not getting some blanket amnesty or DREAM act or licenses or something else for illegals shoved down our throats? And Rudy likes his sanctuary cities? And the minutemen are only observers and trying to protect people's property? Maybe you don't live in a city or town that is overrun with "undocumented workers", haven't had somebody run into you and just split, or know anybody in a border area who's had their property vandalized, used as a bathroom or kitchen as they were passing through.
Sorry, but this to me and an awful lot of people I know is priority #1 right now, stop the flow and enforce current laws is all we ask.
Butt simple.

If you look back at the Flanders White Power posts, you'll see the it looks like the Minutemen are connected with some White Power groups. They look like big boy scouts, but if they are into the White Power stuff, they're creeps in my book. What a let down.

First I've heard of it. Do you mean " The Minutemen" the organization, or " the minutemen" the members?

MARRAKECH, Morocco (AP) - Interpol put five Iranians and a Lebanese man on its most-wanted list Wednesday in connection with a 1994 bombing that killed 85 people at a Jewish community center in Argentina.
Iranian delegates said the annual Interpol general assembly in Morocco voted 78-14, with 26 abstentions, to issue wanted notices for the six suspects.

"We have achieved something that we have been hoping for for a long time," said Alberto Nisman, the chief Argentine prosecutor in the case.

Argentine prosecutors alleged that Iranian officials orchestrated the bombing in Buenos Aires—Argentina's worst terror attack—and entrusted the Lebanon-based militant group Hezbollah with carrying it out.

No one has been convicted in Argentina in connection with the blast, in which a van stuffed with explosives leveled the seven-story Jewish center and shook Argentina's 200,000-strong Jewish community.

The Interpol vote became embroiled in Iran's broader tensions with the West, which stem in part from suspicions that Tehran is seeking to build nuclear weapons.

Iranian envoys had strongly objected to the wanted notices, accusing Israel and the United States of turning the international police agency into a political tool.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

I cant see how that is positive, Pat Robertson is insane much like his pal jerry falwell, I cant imagine this endorsement having any weight except with his most extreme followers, who are just as crazy as he is...

Let me know when the NRA endorses him, them I'll be impressed.

re: #202 Beagle
Careful there Beagle ...!
I have a lot in w/ Lesbians...
I'm Very,Very attracted to women!
Of course they were not responsible!

re: #208 Ringo the Gringo

re: #195 marwan's daughter

P

at Robertson and Osama Bin Laden are two sides of the same coin. Sure, Pat Robertson doesn't have a following that is willing to kill non-believers but he shares the same views as Bin Laden.

Robertson is nutty, bin Laden is Evil.

There is no comparison.

True. But if Robertson had a following willing to kill infidels and install a worldwide theocracy, he would cross the line into evil. He is dangerously close to that line now. What keeps him from crossing it is his lack of a following.

re: #206 N_Jones

"...Once again we, as a people are left with a choice of the "least of evils..."

Isn't that essentially every election? more often than not I find myself going to the polls more to vote against someone than for someone.

nolocon 184

Fine . . . let's do a Morality Background Check on EVERY potential Rudy voter. They can be the ones casting stones.

How about relating to Robertson as a human being, one that I might add has devoted far more to charity and helping people that I suspect the actual Christian haters and stone throwers on this thread. He may condemn homosexuality but would do everything for someone that wanted out of that lifestyle. And what I see on this thread is simply an opportunity to express a vile hatred of Christianity, NOT just a selective outrage over Pat Robertson or his character. Want to hate Christians? Then join the Left and the Islamofacists, and it looks like a third group is available the neo-Nazis, they all have one thing in common they HATE Jews and Christians, disguise it all they will as some selective disgust for this or that leader, or Zionism, but pressed, who exactly would be acceptable? My suspicion is a mute Christian would be the only acceptable Christian, or maybe a dead one. Think of the rejoicing on the Left when Falwell died.

Robertson is playing this very smart. Dobson, who has MUCH more pull on the right, has threatened a split or third party candidate. Robertson is waning in influence, but this move by him is to support those religious social values conservative voters (there are lots of them and the GOP needs them to win) who are leaning toward Rudy. Robertson has made a very rational calculation, from his perspective, that this will help those on the religious right to resist Dobson's "all or none" position.

Look, you do not have to agree with Robertson all the time, but you DO have to realize that the GOP cannot win without the BIG tent approach. Social values conservatives are a big backbone to the GOP. There is NOWHERE else for them to go, except to stay home and not vote. As religious people are increasingly voting Republican, not Democrat, you need to get them to the polls and to vote on the RIGHT side of the ledger.

We all make compromises. Robertson has said here that his social
conservative values are not endangered by Rudy and that national
security and appointment of judges (at least not letting Hillary appoint
them) is more important than getting your way ALL the time. This is a very pragmatic, very smart wedge into the potential religious right break from the GOP.

re: #209 Dar ul Harb

I think of the Big Three as:

1. Every gun is always loaded, until you, personally, verify otherwise.

2. Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.

3. Never point a gun at anything you don't intend to destroy.

Lot of stones being thrown here...must be a room full of pure souls.

re: #175 Areopagitica

how the heck does an originalist, strict constructionist judge know exactly what the founders intended? Was he or she there at the time the ink was drying on the constitution?

You think reading the organic law of the land is difficult? And more prone to error than ignoring it? Hmmm

re: #209 Dar ul Harb

re: #169 Occasional Reader

Yep. I can think of several.

Keep your finger out of the trigger guard until ready to fire.
Alway know your backstop.
Treat every gun as if it were loaded.
Keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction when not in use.

(At least keep your finger out of the trigger guard, Ms. Bruce...)

She goes to class before she gets on the range with me.

re: #188 Sunlight

If that's true, and it's a 2 way street (not white power groups attaching themselves to the Minutemen) then I'd agree.

But, in the dealings I've had with them I haven't seen anything like that.

On the other side, the only thing that is going to stop this is the spineless DC crowd, and both sides seem to be marching blindly into who-knows-what for reasons that are beyond me.

Unfortunately I don't think people like Duncan Hunter stand a chance. Rudy is a tough little bastard, I just wish that immigration was an area he'd get his dander up on.

re: #219 maddogg

Let me know when the NRA endorses him, them I'll be impressed.

I'll be impressed when it's the GOA, not the liberal NRA.

re: #217 storagemanager

Come on, everybody from Osama bin Laden to Noam Chomsky knows the Mossad & the CIA carried out the bombing of the Jewish center in Argentina as a pretext to kill innocent Muslims worldwide & plunder their hard-earned wealth.

re: #163 theheat

Good G*d, I can't take any more. I used to love Rudy... now this! First, I read about Rudy's alleged (gay) child molesting Catholic buddy, and now the superfreak poster boy of the far right is tagging on his coat tails. I wouldn't cross the street to piss on Pat Robertson. Laugh at him - sure - but I find the man utterly revolting. Every time I see or hear him I taste bile in my mouth.

If Rudy dipped himself in sh*t I don't think I could find him less appealing at the moment.

well...you are given a choice, right,...maybe you will enjoy voting for hillary...

re: #223 jehu

So my choices are:

1) Love Pat Robertson, or

2) Join the Neo-Nazis.

Got it.

re: #178 Johnnyreb

re: #125 1SG(ret)

I held my nose and voted for a Repub in our Governor's race (KY) yesterday that I felt wasn't the best. ( Many Repubs stayed home) He lost and the state is back in the Dems hands. Although I feel Rudy is not the best we could do, I will vote for him if he is the nominee. I just hope the same result doesn't repeat itself.

Top

1SG, you had better get that state back into Repub hands before I retire for the second time and move there!

Albany, KY here I come in 10 years.

Oh and: Ron Paul!

The welfare crowd was out in force yesterday. But, Fletcher did not run a very good campaign.

re: #142 Golem Akbar

If Rudy becomes president (please G-d), we'll have at least four more years of GDS on lefty-talk radio, Olbermann, Mathews, etc. But we ought to be used to it by now. Honestly, we'd miss it. Donchathink?

For that reason alone it would be worth it to vote for Rudy. ;-)

re: #206 N_Jones

Once again we, as a people are left with a choice of the "least of evils".

According to logic, that means we still get evil though.

re: #221 marwan's daughter

But if Robertson had a following willing to kill infidels and install a worldwide theocracy, he would cross the line into evil.

No he wouldn't.

Pat Robertson would like you to find Jesus, but he has no desire to kill anyone...And neither do his followers, of which he has many...perhaps a million or more.

re: #217 storagemanager

Good news, in a way... bad, in another; this treats an act of war as a criminal law matter. (See, also: Lockerbie)

re: #188 Sunlight

If you look back at the Flanders White Power posts, you'll see the it looks like the Minutemen are connected with some White Power groups. They look like big boy scouts, but if they are into the White Power stuff, they're creeps in my book. What a let down.

"looks like"
"they look like"
"If they are into the White Power"
A lot of weasel words there. If you can't even commit to such an outrageous allegation why even bother making the comment?

re: #195 marwan's daughter

Pat Robertson and Osama Bin Laden are two sides of the same coin. Sure, Pat Robertson doesn't have a following that is willing to kill non-believers but he shares the same views as Bin Laden.

GMAFB.
It's the nature of the two religions that makes the difference. Following Jesus closely requires self-denial. Following Mohammed closely, you get to justify almost any action if you can in some fashion use it to advance Islam.

re: #225 Occasional Reader

re: #209 Dar ul Harb

I think of the Big Three as:

1. Every gun is always loaded, until you, personally, verify otherwise.

2. Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.

3. Never point a gun at anything you don't intend to destroy.

Man, if I'd have known that earlier I wouldn't have had so many sheetrock repairs.

In the intrest of :
Political correctness
Cultural diversity
and inclusivness
I, here by state my lack of fondness for Politicians
and TV Evangelists no matter of race color or religon!

re: #96 mad_scientist

Also, I think [Rudy] would clean Hillary's clock in the general election. After her last debacle of a performance on the Dem debate, the mask is slipping off. She has no idea what she is talking about if it isnt prescripted...so Tim Russert asks a legit question, and "wahaaahaaa you guys are all ganging up on me because I am a woman"...
..

The first thing I thought when I read about Hillary's Bad Night was, Only if Rudy could have been there! She waffles like that in a debate against Rudy and she is toast, so crisp that most independents and even some Democrats will choke over the char and smoke.

Rudy will crumble her quick as you can give a Bronx cheer and just look amused when she screeches, "I am a woman." If he should deign to reply to that cop out at all, he will say, "Hey, if you want to wear pants and play with the big boys, you have to keep your eye on the ball or take your tumbles just like everybody else when you swing and miss."

That's one of the main reasons I am supporting Rudy. I fear that any of the other Republicans likely to get the nomination would be intimidated by the shrew. Nor will President Rudy be intimidated by any crazy jihadi he has to deal with after he reaches the White House.

re: #229 uncle_monkey

re: #188 Sunlight

If that's true, and it's a 2 way street (not white power groups attaching themselves to the Minutemen) then I'd agree.

But, in the dealings I've had with them I haven't seen anything like that.

On the other side, the only thing that is going to stop this is the spineless DC crowd, and both sides seem to be marching blindly into who-knows-what for reasons that are beyond me.

Unfortunately I don't think people like Duncan Hunter stand a chance. Rudy is a tough little bastard, I just wish that immigration was an area he'd get his dander up on.

Sounds like maybe a (dare I say it) ploy to make the Minutemen out to be the next racist group( not that they aren't already called that!)

re: #241 uncle_monkey

re: #225 Occasional Reader

re: #209 Dar ul Harb

I think of the Big Three as:

1. Every gun is always loaded, until you, personally, verify otherwise.

2. Keep your finger off the trigger until ready to fire.

3. Never point a gun at anything you don't intend to destroy.

Man, if I'd have known that earlier I wouldn't have had so many sheetrock repairs.

Remember gun safety tip #8; No matter how responsible he seems, never give your gun to a monkey.

re: #196 lostlakehiker

Pat Robertson. Politics makes strange bedfellows, for sure.

His endorsement should carry no weight. His opinions should carry no weight. But we cannot afford to be so pure that we only accept support from those whose thinking is aligned 100% with our own, and is therefore correct across the board.

/sarc

Even he has figured that out.

But there's no tent big enough for Nazis.

re: #219 maddogg

Let me know when the NRA endorses him, them I'll be impressed.

That's in the realm of possibilities. Now if the GOA endorses him...

re: #211 funkyfantom

Funkyfantom, I would have to know a lot more about this story before I believe it. Which hasidic neighborhood in Brooklyn, for example? Because there are a number of hasidic/haredi groups who, sad to say, have a ghetto mentality and like many inner city blacks or hispanics, will not cooperate with police and will lie through their teeth to protect the reputation of one of "their own" and slander the police without blinking an eye. We are having a serious problem with that here in Israel, where the Ultra-Orthodox think they are above the law and behave in a mob fashion whenever the police are called to the neighborhood. They lie to police, make up stories about what really happened, and harbor and protect the guilty.

I'm skeptical about this story, that's all. I have a very hard time believing that even one policeman, much less several, would open fire on an unarmed man in front of numerous witnesses. Something about it just doesn't ring true.

Politics most definitely makes for strange bedfellows.

re: #234 newsjunkie_ky

re: #178 Johnnyreb

re: #125 1SG(ret)

I held my nose and voted for a Repub in our Governor's race (KY) yesterday that I felt wasn't the best. ( Many Repubs stayed home) He lost and the state is back in the Dems hands. Although I feel Rudy is not the best we could do, I will vote for him if he is the nominee. I just hope the same result doesn't repeat itself.
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1SG, you had better get that state back into Repub hands before I retire for the second time and move there!
Albany, KY here I come in 10 years.

Oh and: Ron Paul!

The welfare crowd was out in force yesterday. But, Fletcher did not run a very good campaign.

Agree, and unfortunately I don't see the state repubs getting back in the governors office any time soon. A shame and a waisted opportunity. Goes back to, can't have an appearance of corruption, when replacing corruption.
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re: #216 Owl

re: #188 Sunlight

re: #123 uncle_monkey

re: #66 Owl

re: #22 uncle_monkey

Let's see if he gets an endorsement from the Minutement!/wishing...

How can you ever think/wish that into exsistance? If he gets an endorsement from the Minutemen, I'm just going to give up. On everything. Seriously.

Oh, that's an easy one. 77% of the population wants something/anything done about immigration? Not getting some blanket amnesty or DREAM act or licenses or something else for illegals shoved down our throats? And Rudy likes his sanctuary cities? And the minutemen are only observers and trying to protect people's property? Maybe you don't live in a city or town that is overrun with "undocumented workers", haven't had somebody run into you and just split, or know anybody in a border area who's had their property vandalized, used as a bathroom or kitchen as they were passing through.
Sorry, but this to me and an awful lot of people I know is priority #1 right now, stop the flow and enforce current laws is all we ask.
Butt simple.

If you look back at the Flanders White Power posts, you'll see the it looks like the Minutemen are connected with some White Power groups. They look like big boy scouts, but if they are into the White Power stuff, they're creeps in my book. What a let down.

First I've heard of it. Do you mean " The Minutemen" the organization, or " the minutemen" the members?

I'll look for it - I think it was one of the leaders being interviewed by David Duke on some radio show.

re: #221 marwan's daughter

re: #208 Ringo the Gringo

re: #195 marwan's daughter

P

at Robertson and Osama Bin Laden are two sides of the same coin. Sure, Pat Robertson doesn't have a following that is willing to kill non-believers but he shares the same views as Bin Laden.

Robertson is nutty, bin Laden is Evil.

There is no comparison.

True. But if Robertson had a following willing to kill infidels and install a worldwide theocracy, he would cross the line into evil. He is dangerously close to that line now. What keeps him from crossing it is his lack of a following.

do you have any proof of this other than the black helicopters flying over your house?

re: #122 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #119 JamesTKirk

re: #113 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #108 Nevergiveup

re: #86 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
"I'd even consider voting for Satan over Hilliary"
Well only after seeing them both on stage together and I was sure it wasn't Hilliary incognito!

LOL. It's hard to tell the difference isn't it?

No. Satan likes men. Hillary likes women.

I thought Satan was Bi.