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CAIR Whines, Seethes Over Robertson Endorsement

Thu, Nov 8, 2007 at 11:06:54 am PST

In yet another paid press release that looks like a news report, the Council on American Islamic Relations urges Rudy Giuliani to reject Pat Robertson’s endorsement.

WASHINGTON, Nov. 7 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — A prominent national Islamic civil rights and advocacy group today urged GOP presidential candidate Rudy Giuliani to reconsider his acceptance of the endorsement of a controversial televangelist known for scathing attacks on Muslims and Islam.

In a news release on his campaign website, Giuliani is quoted as saying he is “encouraged” by the endorsement of Pat Robertson, chairman of the Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN). “His experience and advice will be a great asset to me and my campaign,” said Giuliani.

In 2002, President Bush repudiated rhetorical attacks on Islam by evangelical leaders. Media reports at the time said the president’s remarks were prompted by attacks on Islam, particularly those of Pat Robertson, who said that Muslims are “worse than the Nazis.” Bush said: “Some of the comments that have been uttered about Islam do not reflect the sentiments of my government or the sentiments of most Americans.”

Then Secretary of State Colin Powell echoed the president’s remarks when he told a State Department audience, “This kind of hatred must be rejected.” The director of the American Jewish Committee called Robertson’s “Nazi” comment “outrageous.” ...

“It is truly disturbing that a presidential candidate of any party would accept the endorsement and seek the advice of a person with such a clear record of anti-Muslim bigotry,” said CAIR National Legislative Director Corey Saylor.

Rudy Giuliani is quickly becoming CAIR’s least favorite presidential candidate.

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1 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:07:36am
2 Sharmuta  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:07:48am

If it p*ssed off cair- then it's a good thing.

3 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:09:14am

No surprise here. They are afraid of Rudy.

4 Charles  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:09:56am

How long before someone says I'm "aligned with CAIR" because I'm not a fan of Pat Robertson?

(Note: I'm not calling for Rudy to reject his endorsement.)

5 RememberSekhmet?  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:10:10am

Quality enemies. That's what I love about Rudy!

6 MandyManners  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:11:16am

Oh, go pound sand, CAIR. (Hey, Hoopie, ya' shit-slinging monkey!)

7 cybermonk  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:11:26am

The Moslems DO NOT want Giuliani to win, they are scared to death of him, in his choices for foreign relations advisors, his own record with Prince Adbullah, Arafat, etc. That makes him my choice, he at least "gets it"

8 nikis-knight  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:12:07am
Rudy Giuliani is quickly becoming CAIR’s least favorite presidential candidate.

That's the first endorsement I've seen that could seriously sway my vote.
(If it's down to Mitt or Rudy, I'm cool with either, despite significant differences.)

9 Iron Fist  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:12:14am
Rudy Giuliani is quickly becoming CAIR’s least favorite presidential candidate.

That would be the unindicted terrorist-funding co-conspirators CAIR. Their antipathy is like an endorsement of sorts. The more CAIR hates Rudy, the better I like him.
10 Tenacious  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:12:27am

Hatred from CAIR is an endorsement.

11 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:12:29am

re: #4 Charles

How long before someone says I'm "aligned with CAIR" because I'm not a fan of Pat Robertson?

(Note: I'm not calling for Rudy to reject his endorsement.)

Wait. Someone, somewhere will do it.

12 unclassifiable  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:12:41am

Whine and Seethe
Whine and Seethe
Whine and Seethe
...

WH'EEZE

Yeah that's a good contraction "wh'eeze".

CAIR wh'eezes again.

That respiratory problem seems terminal.

13 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:12:50am

I've been with Rudy since he first ran for office, so this merely affirms I'm with the right guy.

Thanks, CAIR!

14 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:12:52am
Rudy Giuliani is quickly becoming CAIR’s least favorite presidential candidate.

A good reason to support Rudy.

15 chinesearithmetic  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:12:52am

Who will be lucky enough to win CAIR's endorsement?

16 zmdavid  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:12:56am

The way CAIR should fight this is to endorse their candidate.
Ron Paul probably.

17 jamgarr  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:13:05am

Yeah, as if CAIR gives a flying fatwa about Rudy keeping his house clean.

18 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:13:07am

So who is CAIR endorsing?

19 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:13:11am

I hate to say it, but if CAIR hates him, I won't have to hold my nose as tightly to vote for him if Fred fails to wake up and do something.


If Cair hates him, he's doing the right thing, no doubt.

20 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:13:17am
21 Drill_Thrawl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:13:26am

The cair complains about Rudy, the more I like Rudy!

22 reine.de.tout  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:13:49am

If Rudy is CAIR's least favorite candidate - he gets my vote, for sure!

23 Ringo the Gringo  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:14:02am
24 unclassifiable  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:14:02am

re: #18 Just_A_Grunt

OBL -- haven't you seen him in the Dem debates?

25 jamgarr  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:14:18am

Harpe Diem

26 LC LaWedgie  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:14:24am
paid press release that looks like a news report,

When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.

27 Eowyn2  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:14:31am

re: #4 Charles
4, 3, 2, ....

28 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:14:46am

I am still leaning Fred, since he seems to be good at hacking off a small segment of every group. What's not to like?

29 Drill_Thrawl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:14:50am

#21 Drill_Thrawl 11/08/07 11:13:26 am reply quote report 0

The MORE cair complains about Rudy, the more I like Rudy!

Doh! PIMF

30 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:14:55am

re: #24 unclassifiable

re: #18 Just_A_Grunt

OBL -- haven't you seen him in the Dem debates?


Was he disguised as a woman dodging questions and speaking out both sides of his/her mouth? Oh yeah, then I've seen him.

31 jcm  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:14:56am

re: #4 Charles

How long before someone says I'm "aligned with CAIR" because I'm not a fan of Pat Robertson?

(Note: I'm not calling for Rudy to reject his endorsement.)

I get it over with for you.
Charles is aligned with CAIR because he's not a fan of Pat Robertson!
and
Charles is aligned with Commies because he's not a fan of VB!
and
Charles is aligned with KOS because he's not a fan of The Aryan Nations!
Did I cover everything?
///////
/////
///
//
/

32 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:15:07am

This is perhaps the only area in which I'm even close to agreeing with CAIR on something.

I lean toward "Rudy was right to accept the endorsement, for tactical purposes", but it's a close call for me.

33 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:15:19am

re: #18 Just_A_Grunt

So who is CAIR endorsing?

Ron Paul?

34 jcm  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:16:04am

re: #33 JammieWearingFool

re: #18 Just_A_Grunt

So who is CAIR endorsing?

Ron Paul?

Al-Ron MoPaul

35 swampscott  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:16:17am

This endorsement is perhaps the most important and certainly the most disused in a generation. Usually endorsements are meaningless. THIS one has meaning.

Interesting. GO RUDY!

36 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:16:25am

re: #11 Honorary Yooper

re: #4 Charles


How long before someone says I'm "aligned with CAIR" because I'm not a fan of Pat Robertson?

(Note: I'm not calling for Rudy to reject his endorsement.)


Wait. Someone, somewhere will do it.


If I bend the time space continuum, cross the streams, and say Beetle Juice three times in a row, I might be able to do it - but I wouldn't want to try. /do I need to?

37 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:16:38am

re: #20 savage_nation

re: #11 Honorary Yooper


re: #4 Charles

How long before someone says I'm "aligned with CAIR" because I'm not a fan of Pat Robertson?

(Note: I'm not calling for Rudy to reject his endorsement.)


Wait. Someone, somewhere will do it.

Didnt Pamela already do that?

I was thinking she might again, but I didn't want to name names yet.

38 Pope Insouciance IV  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:17:29am

Owl

I hate to say it, but if CAIR hates him, I won't have to hold my nose as tightly to vote for him if Fred fails to wake up and do something.

Poke him a little and tell him dinner's ready. That ought to do the trick.

39 Hollowpoint  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:18:08am

Maybe Rudy paid CAIR to denounce him and thus increase his appeal.

/tinfoil

I'm still an anti-Rudy guy- he's still way too soft on immigration and has a record of being rabidly anti-gun. Still, it's just amazing that CAIR could be so stupid and full of themselves that they'd think a denouncement by them would actually hurt a Republican candidate.

40 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:18:21am

The Robertson endorsement is a one-day story, at best, except for the MSM and Democrats, who will remind us of it for the next 362 days.

I'll be more buoyed when Rudy receives the Kathleen Willey endorsement.

Anyone notice her turning her back on Skeletor last night?

41 MeatRocket  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:18:28am
Rudy Giuliani is quickly becoming CAIR’s least favorite presidential candidate.

I guess that makes him my favorite presidential candidate :)

42 Piglet-U93  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:18:55am

While Pat does not agree with Rudy's position on pro-abortion. Pat realizes that if we lose to Islam there is no future.

My one and only reservation about Rudy is SCOTUS appointments.

Pat may be wrong about many things but he is NOT wrong about Islam.

43 Sharmuta  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:19:18am

re: #11 Honorary Yooper

Maybe that kyle bristow kid will do it.

44 onepistoffyid  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:19:23am

This is excellent news since it should help Rudy with the pro-life Christians. I know his stance on abortion is an issue for some, but if dhimmicrat Hillary gets in, nobody in the west will have a "right to life", including the unborn.

45 pyjoe  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:19:55am

Whomever CAIR does support is the one that isn't getting my vote. Those who receive scorn from CAIR are the only ones worth voting for.

46 MandyManners  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:20:17am

The Stuck Mojo video featuring CAIR at the beginning has been removed from Youtube over violation of the terms of use.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

47 unclassifiable  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:21:20am

re: #46 MandyManners

Not enough pro-jihad propaganda apparently.

48 Eowyn2  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:21:45am

re: #33 JammieWearingFool

re: #18 Just_A_Grunt


So who is CAIR endorsing?

Ron Paul?

Cair's candidate is yet to be named, we can call him the 'tw-elf-th of never' in my lifetime.

49 zmdavid  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:21:45am

No! No! No!
Charles not being a fan of Pat Robertson's means he hates all Christians.
/
You people need to get your baseless and wild accusations straight.

50 MandyManners  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:21:46am

re: #43 Sharmuta

re: #11 Honorary Yooper

Maybe that kyle bristow kid Little Master Bristow will do it.

51 Iron Fist  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:22:07am

re: #42 Piglet-U93

Pat may be wrong about many things but he is NOT wrong about Islam.


True that. Islam has spent the past 1400 years telling us exactly what they are about. Then when we finally get wise to it they want to say "Who, us? We're a Religion of Peace™!"

Yep. Right. Not buying it.

52 MandyManners  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:22:28am

re: #47 unclassifiable

Pissed me off good.

53 MandyManners  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:23:08am

re: #52 MandyManners

And, after this morning fit-pitching, I don't need to be pissed off more.

54 LC LaWedgie  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:23:08am

Sept 30, 2006 -


A French high school philosophy teacher and author who carried out a scathing attack against the Prophet Muhammad and Islam in a newspaper commentary says he has gone into hiding under police protection after receiving a series of death threats, including one disseminated on an online radical Islamist forum.
The teacher, Robert Redeker, 52, wrote in the center-right daily Le Figaro 10 days ago that Muhammad was “a merciless warlord, a looter, a mass-murderer of Jews and a polygamist,” and called the Koran “a book of incredible violence.”
The Redeker case is the latest manifestation in Europe of a mounting ideological battle that pits those who believe Islam and the Prophet Muhammad can be criticized in the name of free speech against those in the Muslim community who believe no criticism can be tolerated.

Welcome to France.

55 mpls Bob  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:23:12am

"Rudy Giuliani is quickly becoming CAIR’s least favorite presidential candidate"

Which makes him become my favorite presidential candidate too.

56 amphibian  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:23:20am

Hey, I liked Giuliani from the first. Guess I was right!

57 Sharmuta  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:23:58am

re: #50 MandyManners

That's right. I forgot he had you on his little punk *ss.

/I don't envy him

58 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:24:16am
Rudy Giuliani is quickly becoming CAIR’s least favorite presidential candidate.

Thats quite an endorsement on its own right there.

59 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:24:43am
60 unclassifiable  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:24:50am

re: #53 MandyManners

Missed that. You really should get paid for getting pissed off.

That's what I did this morning.

WOOHOO -- back to work doing technical review!

61 Iron Fist  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:24:55am

re: #54 LC LaWedgie,

This is why I refer to them as "Mohammedans". They worship Mohammed even more than their Blood Moon god or his rock.

62 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:25:33am

Well, despite being wrong on some issues that are very important to me, Rudy is making the right enemies.


He isn't my first choice, but I won't have to hold my nose to vote for him.


And I do like his foreign policy team.

Since Hunter is basically running for VP at this point, if Romney doesn't catch fire soon, it'll be Rudy.


And if he does appoint Constitutionalist judges, his liberalism on social issues will be almost a non-issue.

63 The Shadow Do  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:26:12am

Well, there goes the mohamedan vote. I was sure he had that constituency locked up before.

64 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:26:30am
65 WriterMom  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:27:40am

Being the most disliked by CAIR is quite an accomplishment and would draw my vote like flypaper (if I could vote there, which I can't...if if if...)

66 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:28:19am

So CAIR doesn't like rudy.....A Ringing endorsement if thier ever was one

67 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:28:22am

I consider myself a Christian, and would never Bass Christians ™, but I think Robertson is an order of nuggets short of a Happy Meal.

68 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:28:44am

In other good election news, most men hate Hillary.

As with with affection for Rudy, my distaste (to put it mildly) for her goes way back.

69 Killgore Trout  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:29:11am

re: #64 NJDhockeyfan

CBS 2 HD has learned a portable barbeque grill in the truck containing propane gas leaked into the truck, causing the explosion.

It's the fuel-air bomb the Glasgow jihadis were trying for.

70 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:29:16am

re: #65 WriterMom

(if I could vote there, which I can't...if if if...)

Why should not being allowed to vote stop you?

/Democrat mode

71 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:29:38am

re: #62 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

his liberalism on social issues will be almost a non-issue.

It's all about the judges - and who he nominates. However, even on that point, if there is sufficient outcry over the nominee (see Miers, Harriet), you can watch conservatives pounce and force changes.

Leftists and liberals will be sure to paint Rudy as a rabid right winger as Jammie notes from now until election day.

It will be interesting to see if there's a bounce from the Robertson endorsement. Usually, endorsements don't count for much - if anything at all.

However, if the media keeps playing this up, you might find Rudy benefitting more from the manufactured kerfuffle over Robertson than anything else Rudy is doing at the moment.

72 LC LaWedgie  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:30:15am

re: #61 Iron Fist
From the CAIR press release:


Robertson also called the Prophet Muhammad "an absolute wild-eyed fanatic, a robber and a brigand...a killer" and said the goal of Islam is "world domination."

CAIR -

empower American Muslims, and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding

Sounds to me they're saying about the same thing.

73 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:30:47am
74 Eowyn2  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:31:05am

re: #35 swampscott

This endorsement is perhaps the most important and certainly the most disused in a generation. Usually endorsements are meaningless. THIS one has meaning.

Interesting. GO RUDY!

I dont know how good the actual endorsement is. Pat Robertson does not have the same clout in the Christian community as he once had. Too much water under the bridge.

HOWEVER, the demand of CAIR for Guliani to reject Robertson's endorsement will probably do more for Guliani with those of us who are more 'one issue' people (and you can bet that since we have put the one issue of our national survival at the top of the list there will be a lot of harrassment by the media.)

75 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:32:16am
76 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:32:18am

re: #68 JammieWearingFool

PIMF: with with --> with my

77 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:32:34am

#38 Pope Insouciance IV 11/08/07 11:17:29 am reply quote report 0

Owl

I hate to say it, but if CAIR hates him, I won't have to hold my nose as tightly to vote for him if Fred fails to wake up and do something.

Poke him a little and tell him dinner's ready. That ought to do the trick.


it would work for me!

78 MandyManners  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:32:35am

re: #57 Sharmuta

Actually, I was quite gentle on the lad.

79 old_maid  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:32:41am

If Rudy were a democrap candidate, would the press be breathlessly talking about how he's the first Italian-American candidate?

80 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:33:25am

I don't want my choices for President to be a subway series among different New Yorkers. One wants to grab my guns and the other wants to grab my money. You figure out which.
Go Fred, get that little red truck in gear.

81 coquimbojoe  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:33:40am

re: #6 MandyManners

Oh, go pound sand, CAIR. (Hey, Hoopie, ya' shit-slinging monkey!)

I think I love you....

82 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:33:46am

re: #69 Killgore Trout

re: #64 NJDhockeyfan


CBS 2 HD has learned a portable barbeque grill in the truck containing propane gas leaked into the truck, causing the explosion.



It's the fuel-air bomb the Glasgow jihadis were trying for.

I was thinking the same thing.

83 Silhouette  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:33:50am
Robertson also called the Prophet Muhammad "an absolute wild-eyed fanatic, a robber and a brigand...a killer" and said the goal of Islam is "world domination."

That is an unfair characterization.

We have no idea what his eyes looked like.

84 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:34:29am
In 2002, President Bush repudiated rhetorical attacks on Islam by evangelical leaders. Media reports at the time said the president’s remarks were prompted by attacks on Islam, particularly those of Pat Robertson, who said that Muslims are “worse than the Nazis.” Bush said: “Some of the comments that have been uttered about Islam do not reflect the sentiments of my government or the sentiments of most Americans.”

That's why Franklin Graham doesn't get invited to the White House. He speaks too plainly and truthfully about islam. Sad.

85 Eowyn2  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:34:43am

re: #75 taxfreekiller
a guiliani/tancredo ticket wouldnt be too bad. Having tancredo as the split vote of the senate could be remarkably economical

86 MandyManners  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:35:04am

re: #59 savage_nation

re: #52 MandyManners


re: #47 unclassifiable

Pissed me off good.


Is this what you're looking for?

YES! *smoochies*

87 Eowyn2  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:35:07am

re: #83 Silhouette


lol

88 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:35:34am

re: #71 lawhawk

re: #62 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet


his liberalism on social issues will be almost a non-issue.



It's all about the judges - and who he nominates. However, even on that point, if there is sufficient outcry over the nominee (see Miers, Harriet), you can watch conservatives pounce and force changes.

Leftists and liberals will be sure to paint Rudy as a rabid right winger as Jammie notes from now until election day.

It will be interesting to see if there's a bounce from the Robertson endorsement. Usually, endorsements don't count for much - if anything at all.

However, if the media keeps playing this up, you might find Rudy benefitting more from the manufactured kerfuffle over Robertson than anything else Rudy is doing at the moment.

The mental gymnastics will be interesting, as the left has spent the better part of the year going out of their way to remind everyone how "liberal" Rudy is on some issues.

Those same people will soon be saying how hard right he is.

Oh, and they'll mention he once dressed up in drag for a skit about 100,000 more time, in case we didn't hear them endlessly repeating it.

89 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:36:01am
90 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:36:02am

re: #64 NJDhockeyfan

OT:
Truck Explodes In Queens Alley

Damn, so much for having brisket for dinner.

91 Anthony (Los Angeles)  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:36:02am

Rudy Giuliani is quickly becoming CAIR’s least favorite presidential candidate.

I'd consider that a badge of pride.

92 Jimmah  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:36:05am

re: #67 Ed Mahmoud's Sock Puppet

I consider myself a Christian, and would never Bass Christians ™, but I think Robertson is an order of nuggets short of a Happy Meal.

If he were a happy meal, it would be a...nah, I'll resist this time.

93 darvvin  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:36:08am
Rudy Giuliani is quickly becoming CAIR’s least favorite presidential candidate.

Then he is becoming MY favorite.

The enemy of my enemy is my President :-)

94 satan sidekick  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:36:22am

Palis building Pallywood - What a hoot!

Hamas envisions a glittering facility with production and graphics studios, satellite technology, gardens, water ponds, a children's entertainment area and an array of cafes and restaurants, said the Felasteen daily, a Hamas paper.

It will even feature mock towns and villages similar to those that Palestinians fled or were forced out after Israel's creation in 1948, the newspaper reported, quoting Fathi Hamad, a Hamas lawmaker and head of the project.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Anyone care to embeliish?

95 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:36:37am

Hairdresser sued for refusing to hire Muslim woman in a headscarf

The owner of a hair salon is being sued for religious discrimination for refusing to hire a Muslim woman who wears a headscarf.

Sarah Desrosiers, 32, says she turned down Bushra Noah as a junior stylist to maintain the image of her salon, which specialises in "urban, funky" cuts.

She told Miss Noah, 19, she needed her staff to display their hairstyles to the public.

But the devout Muslim insisted that wearing her headscarf was essential to her beliefs.

Miss Noah, who has been rejected for 25 different hairdressing jobs after interviews, is suing Miss Desrosiers for more than £15,000 for injury to her feelings plus an unspecified sum for lost earnings.

96 Highrise  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:36:44am

re: #8 nikis-knight

Rudy Giuliani is quickly becoming CAIR’s least favorite presidential candidate.

That's the first endorsement I've seen that could seriously sway my vote.

HA! Endorsements don't influence me in a positive manner but I'm with you, this one has the potential to influence me!

Take THAT cair!

97 MandyManners  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:36:49am

re: #60 unclassifiable

re: #53 MandyManners

Missed that. You really should get paid for getting pissed off.

That's what I did this morning.

WOOHOO -- back to work doing technical review!

I'd be rich.

98 beblebrox  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:37:03am

re: #83 Silhouette

Robertson also called the Prophet Muhammad "an absolute wild-eyed fanatic, a robber and a brigand...a killer" and said the goal of Islam is "world domination."

That is an unfair characterization.

We have no idea what his eyes looked like.

I say probably a lot like this.

99 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:37:21am
100 Poitiers-Lepanto  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:37:51am

Goody Rudy !

101 Silhouette  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:38:22am

re: #84 Ward Cleaver

Speaking of Franklin, it is Operation Christmas Child time again. Pack those shoe boxes and get them to a distribution center people, if one is so inclined.

102 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:38:33am

I wasn't around for the last election.......any chance Charles will endorse a candidate? ( I'm guessing no, but per my earlier posts today he sometimes surprises the heck outta me. :) )

103 MandyManners  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:38:43am

re: #79 old_maid

If Rudy were a democrap candidate, would the press be breathlessly talking about how he's the first Italian-American candidate?

You betcha'!

104 MandyManners  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:39:30am

re: #81 coquimbojoe

re: #6 MandyManners


Oh, go pound sand, CAIR. (Hey, Hoopie, ya' shit-slinging monkey!)

I think I love you....

*blush*

105 lobo91  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:39:35am

re: #94 satan sidekick

It will even feature mock towns and villages similar to those that Palestinians fled or were forced out after Israel's creation in 1948, the newspaper reported, quoting Fathi Hamad, a Hamas lawmaker and head of the project.

Hey, they're finally admitting that those villages weren't real!

106 Zardah  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:40:00am

OT Here but I have to share the following sentence taken straight out of the office e-mail from a Supervisor:

"My sincere and abject apologies to all of those who were not notified that late Monday afternoon, the provider cancelled today’s class in “Time Management”."

nuff said

107 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:40:03am
108 BulgarWheat  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:40:16am

#99 taxfreekiller

spelling backwards can lead to playing albums backwards.

109 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:40:18am

re: #103 MandyManners

re: #79 old_maid

If Rudy were a democrap candidate, would the press be breathlessly talking about how he's the first Italian-American candidate?

You betcha'!

And Romney would be praised for being Mormon not questioned.

110 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:41:28am
111 Highrise  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:42:03am

re: #18 Just_A_Grunt

So who is CAIR endorsing?

I'm sure they love ron paul, which is yet another reason I would not pull the lever for that whacko.

112 Jimmah  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:42:48am

re: #95 NJDhockeyfan

Hairdresser sued for refusing to hire Muslim woman in a headscarf


The owner of a hair salon is being sued for religious discrimination for refusing to hire a Muslim woman who wears a headscarf.

Sarah Desrosiers, 32, says she turned down Bushra Noah as a junior stylist to maintain the image of her salon, which specialises in "urban, funky" cuts.

She told Miss Noah, 19, she needed her staff to display their hairstyles to the public.

But the devout Muslim insisted that wearing her headscarf was essential to her beliefs.

Miss Noah, who has been rejected for 25 different hairdressing jobs after interviews, is suing Miss Desrosiers for more than £15,000 for injury to her feelings plus an unspecified sum for lost earnings.

There should be a new charge of religious harrassment especially for people like Miss Noah.

113 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:42:54am

re: #109 Just_A_Grunt

re: #103 MandyManners

re: #79 old_maid

If Rudy were a democrap candidate, would the press be breathlessly talking about how he's the first Italian-American candidate?

You betcha'!

And Romney would be praised for being Mormon not questioned.

And Jahmmy Carter's southern accent was "charming" while Fred Thompson's southern accent evokes specters of the segregationist south of old.

114 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:43:00am

re: #106 Zardah

OT Here but I have to share the following sentence taken straight out of the office e-mail from a Supervisor:

"My sincere and abject apologies to all of those who were not notified that late Monday afternoon, the provider cancelled today’s class in “Time Management”."

nuff said

Sounds familiar. We just got the mass emailing reminding us we had Monday off for Veteran's day. 10 minutes later, we received the meeting schedule for Monday with an admonishment saying make sure you attend.

115 littleoldlady  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:43:23am

re: #94 satan sidekick

It will even feature mock towns and villages similar to those that Palestinians fled or were forced out after Israel's creation in 1948, the newspaper reported, quoting Fathi Hamad, a Hamas lawmaker and head of the project.

Hey, way to go low budget!

/even *I* could afford to build one of those...

116 lobo91  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:43:34am

re: #110 buzzsawmonkey

And probably cardboard cutouts visitors can stick their heads through for photos of theselves at the Jenin "massacre," and other phony "great moments in Palestinian history."

117 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:43:58am

re: #95 NJDhockeyfan


fffffffffeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelings,...wh oa,whoa,whoa....feeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeelings.....


I think businesses should be allowed to NOT hire anyone for any reason they choose. Wouldn't make discrimination right, and i"m sure it would happen, but for pete's sake we're all going to be sued into politically correct multiculturism. *spit...

( btw - about the last thing I notice about someone is the color of their skin, but the first thing I notice is the scaqrf of submission on their heads, should they "choose" to wear one. pfft.)

118 MJ  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:44:17am

I'll find it more interesting if and when CAIR endorses a candidate for President. Will anyone running for President in their right mind accept such an endorsement?

119 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:44:46am

re: #114 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #106 Zardah

OT Here but I have to share the following sentence taken straight out of the office e-mail from a Supervisor:

"My sincere and abject apologies to all of those who were not notified that late Monday afternoon, the provider cancelled today’s class in “Time Management”."

nuff said

Sounds familiar. We just got the mass emailing reminding us we had Monday off for Veteran's day. 10 minutes later, we received the meeting schedule for Monday with an admonishment saying make sure you attend.

Veteran's Day is no longer a day off for the company I work for. They did away with it this year.

120 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:44:49am

re: #116 lobo91

re: #110 buzzsawmonkey

And probably cardboard cutouts visitors can stick their heads through for photos of theselves at the Jenin "massacre," and other phony "great moments in Palestinian history."

"Fake but accurate" pretty much sums up the entire history of the Palestinians

121 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:44:52am

re: #106 Zardah


bwahahahahaaaaa......perfect. thanks for sharing. haha. made me giggle. i needed it, today.

122 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:45:10am
123 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:45:13am
124 lobo91  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:45:51am

I would ask where they're going to get $200 million to build such a project, but I already know the answer:

Me and the rest of the American taxpayers...

125 Sharmuta  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:46:30am

re: #118 MJ

You qualified that with "right mind" so the answer is "No".

126 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:46:49am

re: #118 MJ

I'll find it more interesting if and when CAIR endorses a candidate for President. Will anyone running for President in their right mind accept such an endorsement?


It has to be Hillary. She already has the endorsement from the Terrorists in the ME.

127 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:46:56am
128 Highrise  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:47:13am

re: #119 Just_A_Grunt

Veteran's Day is no longer a day off for the company I work for. They did away with it this year.

How sad. I had one company that would alternate every other year giving veteran's day off with MLK bday. I had another company that would just give time off for Veterans.

129 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:47:26am
130 Miss Trixie  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:47:29am

re: #101 Silhouette

re: #84 Ward Cleaver

Speaking of Franklin, it is Operation Christmas Child time again. Pack those shoe boxes and get them to a distribution center people, if one is so inclined.

Are these boxes screened by security?

131 unstable  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:49:17am
Rudy Giuliani is quickly becoming CAIR’s least favorite presidential candidate.


Making Rudy one of MY most favorite.

I've lived in NYC all my life and, yes, some of his measures in his time as mayor were a bit draconian, however, the results speak for themselves.

132 littleoldlady  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:49:30am

re: #118 MJ

I'll find it more interesting if and when CAIR endorses a candidate for President. Will anyone running for President in their right mind accept such an endorsement?

MJ,

I don't see Ron Paul rejecting the Stormfront vote.

/oh wait. you said "right mind", didn't you?

CAIR is waiting until after the primaries at which point they will endorse Hillary over AnyRepublican. And she will accept their endorsement.

/as long as it comes with oodles of $$$

133 Silhouette  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:49:37am

re: #118 MJ

Accepted or not, it would be very interesting to hear.

Do we have any lizard with the credidentials to ask a CAIR spokesperson for their choice, or top choices? Someone who might have a chance at getting an answer.

134 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:49:50am

re: #94 satan sidekick


Embellished.

It's a small world because the Zionists killed Farfour.

135 WrathofG-d  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:49:52am

If CAIR is seething...you are probably doing something right.

Wrath gets pushed further toward voting for Rudy.

OT:

Evil Israel hates the brown people!

136 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:50:20am

re: #117 Owl

re: #95 NJDhockeyfan


fffffffffeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel ings,...whoa,whoa,whoa....feeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeelings.....


I think businesses should be allowed to NOT hire anyone for any reason they choose. Wouldn't make discrimination right, and i"m sure it would happen, but for pete's sake we're all going to be sued into politically correct multiculturism. *spit...

( btw - about the last thing I notice about someone is the color of their skin, but the first thing I notice is the scaqrf of submission on their heads, should they "choose" to wear one. pfft.)

Everywhere I have worked, it was 'at will'. You could be fired for any reason. So why can't you not be hired for any reason?

137 JamesTKirk  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:50:34am

Rudy Giuliani is quickly becoming CAIR’s least favorite presidential candidate.

Which is, itself, a good endorsement.

138 ctconservative  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:50:41am

RE: #113 Just_A_Grunt

I joined the Italian Club just to promote Rudy...response has been good so far....even in this lib state.

139 jamgarr  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:50:44am

re: #94 satan sidekick

Palis building Pallywood - What a hoot!

Actually, anything that makes them envision a functioning society with the accoutrement's of modernity is fine with me.

140 Silhouette  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:50:49am

re: #123 NJDhockeyfan

Doesn't sound like the week was successful in making the gays aware of the Islamo-fascism. Those who will listen let them hear, I suppose.

141 ethanxxx  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:51:20am

I'm still waiting to see who David Horowitz endorses. I think that as we get closer to the election, the candidates on both sides will realize that speaking out against groups like CAIR will only increase their poll numbers. It could actually bring the two party's closer together... and that will only increase our nation's chances of defeating these people who WANT TO KILL US!

142 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:51:33am

cair says no to Rudy, I say yes to Rudy.

143 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:51:36am

re: #136 newsjunkie_ky


as is my state. It's a " will to work" state

144 bald headed geek  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:51:47am

I'd support Rudy if for no other reason than CAIR doesn't like him.

BHG

145 WrathofG-d  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:51:54am

re: #139 jamgarr

I wonder if Paliwood is on strick in solidarity with their fiction writing comrads here in leftist Hollywood.

146 JimmyTheClaw  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:52:19am

[Link: crass.on.ru...]

alcohol and guns

147 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:52:43am
148 Silhouette  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:53:14am

re: #130 Miss Trixie

re: #101 Silhouette


re: #84 Ward Cleaver

Speaking of Franklin, it is Operation Christmas Child time again. Pack those shoe boxes and get them to a distribution center people, if one is so inclined.

Are these boxes screened by security?

The rules require the boxes be secured only with a rubber band (if you wrap, you have to wrap the lid separately) so I've always presumed that yes, they check inside. But they're checking to make sure we don't send chocolate, toy guns, etc.

149 Nevergiveup  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:54:02am

The enemy of my enemy is my friend!

GO RUDY!

150 LC LaWedgie  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:54:16am

re: #134 lawhawk

performance art

151 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:54:31am

re: #147 taxfreekiller

Had the pickup radio on a bit ago, Rush had a lady from Fl. call in,
the school their kid goes to is going to honor "Conscientious Objectors" on Veterans Day this year. No Shit.

The Bay Haven Elementary School, Sarasota, Florida.

4th grade class.

152 lobo91  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:54:40am

re: #148 Silhouette

The back of our Explorer is full of shoeboxes at the moment...

153 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:54:41am

re: #147 taxfreekiller

Had the pickup radio on a bit ago, Rush had a lady from Fl. call in,
the school their kid goes to is going to honor "Conscientious Objectors" on Veterans Day this year. No Shit.


My favorite "Conscientious Objector".

154 satan sidekick  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:55:16am

re: #134 lawhawk

And the bee character Nahoul (sp?) that replaced Farfour swung cats by their tails for the Pali Kids. And they accuse Americans of violent TV.

155 Highrise  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:55:24am

re: #147 taxfreekiller

Had the pickup radio on a bit ago, Rush had a lady from Fl. call in,
the school their kid goes to is going to honor "Conscientious Objectors" on Veterans Day this year. No Shit.


This type of stuff is SO driven by the adults. When I was their age, politics was the LAST thing on my mind. I wanted the latest toy and to talk on the phone.

Poor kids.

156 WrathofG-d  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:55:36am

re: #147 taxfreekiller

I think you mean selfish, cowardous, traitors!

But just on definition alone, how do you honor NON-veterans on VETERANS day?

157 Nevergiveup  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:56:29am

re: #151 JammieWearingFool

re: #147 taxfreekiller

Had the pickup radio on a bit ago, Rush had a lady from Fl. call in,
the school their kid goes to is going to honor "Conscientious Objectors" on Veterans Day this year. No Shit.

The Bay Haven Elementary School, Sarasota, Florida.

4th grade class.

4TH grade--hum----can they either spell or define "Conscientious" and do they know what exactly they might be "objecting" to?

158 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:57:29am

re: #149 Nevergiveup

The enemy of my enemy is my friend!

GO RUDY!

unless they are racist white power nutjobs.

/no sarc

159 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:57:41am

Great...thanks to my Internet provider...I missed the deadthread.

160 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:58:09am

Here's some post on the Bay Haven sham.

161 Thanos  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:58:17am

OT:
Comment by Sodra at Richard Miniter's:

Nothing provided by LGF can be considered to rise to the level of evidence as would be necessary for publication in the mainstream media. At best, this is pure "guilt by association." In fact, Charles tactics throughout this entire episode remind me, ironically, of the tactics he frequently claims his opponents use to smear him.

Paul Belien is a long-time professional journalist. The readership of LGF, regardless of their illusions of grandeur, have decidedly less impressive journalistic credentials.

Charles banning of all dissenting voices from his site throughout this episode has merely clinched in my mind, and most likely in the minds of many others, just who is in the right on this issue.

I've got to get on a call, someone might want to reply.

162 unstable  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:58:30am

re: #128 Highrise

I had one company that would alternate every other year giving veteran's day off with MLK bday. I had another company that would just give time off for Veterans.


I worked for a company that gave black employees off of MLK day. I thought it was sort of odd. However, when I questioned some of my black co-workers about how that idea was at odds with MLK's life's work, they poo-poo'ed it and said variations of: At least I get a day off.

163 krypto  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:58:49am

Hardly surprising, since Robertson's stated reason for the endorsement was the overwhelming need to "protect our citizens from the blood lust of Islamic terrorists" - goals very much contrary to CAIR's own agenda of undermining resistance to Islamic terrorism and providing some degree of support for terrorist organizations such as Hamas.

CAIR's opposition to Giuliani is a much more convincing reason than Robertson's endorsement to support and vote for Giuliani. Anyone who CAIR opposes probably is bad for goals of Islamic terrorism and the global jihad, and therefore good for human civilization.

164 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:58:59am

re: #151 JammieWearingFool

re: #147 taxfreekiller


Had the pickup radio on a bit ago, Rush had a lady from Fl. call in,
the school their kid goes to is going to honor "Conscientious Objectors" on Veterans Day this year. No Shit.

The Bay Haven Elementary School, Sarasota, Florida.

4th grade class.

So what are they "honoring" them FOR, exactly? Being like Bubba?

165 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:59:26am

re: #46 MandyManners

The Stuck Mojo video featuring CAIR at the beginning has been removed from Youtube over violation of the terms of use.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

No it hasn't. I am watching it as I type this. Would truly be interesting to see the islamofascist get thier asses kicked whilst trying to pull something off in the "hood"

166 MJ  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:59:53am

I know it's risky saying the Clinton's won't accept money from any source since their history is one of taking cash from the most awful people- dead or alive. But, I'll go out on a limb and say that Hillary won't take CAIR endorsement if it comes to her. Even those most loyal morons of the Democratic Party, American Jews, will be furious if she takes CAIR's cash. And Jewish voters count with the Democrats not only in numbers ( big city voters...Miami anyone? ), but, equally important, in terms of fund-raising. It's been estimated that 40% of all donations to the Democrats come from Jewish voters. Also, keep in mind what Hillary knows...that Rudi, unlike many past Republicans, is an attractive candidate for Jewish voters.

167 TheMole  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:59:53am

Bush Derangement Syndrome is morphing into Giuliani Derangement Syndrome before our very eyes. Both Islamists and leftists love to panic at the thought of Giussolini. Here's a classic example:

He's like a gang leader now, roving the streets, looking for some punk to bash. Iran will do.

This kind of craziness could become Rudy's secret weapon, burnishing his credentials and propelling him ahead of rivals.

168 Miss Trixie  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 11:59:56am

re: #148 Silhouette

re: #130 Miss Trixie


re: #101 Silhouette

re: #84 Ward Cleaver
Speaking of Franklin, it is Operation Christmas Child time again. Pack those shoe boxes and get them to a distribution center people, if one is so inclined.
Are these boxes screened by security?

The rules require the boxes be secured only with a rubber band (if you wrap, you have to wrap the lid separately) so I've always presumed that yes, they check inside. But they're checking to make sure we don't send chocolate, toy guns, etc.

Pardon my sudden pique of panic in my belly, but after "The Perfect Day" series and this post on LGF, it worries me. I wouldn't put it past the jihadis wanting to destroy Christmas for the volunteers and the children who receive these cherished shoeboxes.

169 satan sidekick  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:00:13pm

re: #157 Nevergiveup

I doubt this was the brainchild of a 4th grader.

Sounds like another squish brain idea. We had honor Islam Day on 9/11 in the school in my town. When I complained, I was told that they also discuss Japanese internment camps of Pearl Harbor Day. Moral equivalence gone completely awry.

170 funkyfantom  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:00:15pm

re: #64 NJDhockeyfan

OT:
Truck Explodes In Queens Alley

Thanks for the news. That is my neighborhood.

A couple of days ago
a couple of blocks from there, a doctor hired a hitman to gun down her dentist ex-husband as he was bringing their 5-year-old daughter to the playground.

171 Vergeltung  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:00:25pm

re: #155 Highrise

re: #147 taxfreekiller


Had the pickup radio on a bit ago, Rush had a lady from Fl. call in,
the school their kid goes to is going to honor "Conscientious Objectors" on Veterans Day this year. No Shit.

This type of stuff is SO driven by the adults. When I was their age, politics was the LAST thing on my mind. I wanted the latest toy and to talk on the phone.
Poor kids.

the public schools here in the US are PC-multi-culti toilets. thank god my kids are not in one. :)

172 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:00:26pm

re: #161 Thanos


have decidedly less impressive journalistic credentials

depends on what you think of most " journalists" I believe.

173 Nevergiveup  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:01:05pm

re: #164 Owl

re: #151 JammieWearingFool

re: #147 taxfreekiller


Had the pickup radio on a bit ago, Rush had a lady from Fl. call in,
the school their kid goes to is going to honor "Conscientious Objectors" on Veterans Day this year. No Shit.


The Bay Haven Elementary School, Sarasota, Florida.4th grade class.

So what are they "honoring" them FOR, exactly? Being like Bubba?

I believe the day they honor Bubba is "April Fools Day".

174 Highrise  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:01:28pm

re: #95 NJDhockeyfan

Hairdresser sued for refusing to hire Muslim woman in a headscarf


The owner of a hair salon is being sued for religious discrimination for refusing to hire a Muslim woman who wears a headscarf.

Sarah Desrosiers, 32, says she turned down Bushra Noah as a junior stylist to maintain the image of her salon, which specialises in "urban, funky" cuts.

She told Miss Noah, 19, she needed her staff to display their hairstyles to the public.

But the devout Muslim insisted that wearing her headscarf was essential to her beliefs.

Miss Noah, who has been rejected for 25 different hairdressing jobs after interviews, is suing Miss Desrosiers for more than %uFFFD15,000 for injury to her feelings plus an unspecified sum for lost earnings.

Ahhh this happened in the UK.......

Before I accept a cut from a salon, I usually take a look around at the hair styles the stylists have.

I hope this salon owner doesn't settle and wins this.

175 ladycatnip  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:03:31pm

#95 njdhockeyfan

Miss Noah, who has been rejected for 25 different hairdressing jobs after interviews, is suing Miss Desrosiers for more than £15,000 for injury to her feelings plus an unspecified sum for lost earnings.

Injury to feelings is becoming a cottage industry. I'm speculating that Miss Noah is sueing each of the 25 different hairdressing jobs she been turned down for. Minor detail probably left out of the article. How clever of Miss Noah to realize the hair biz is about showing your hair.

176 Nevergiveup  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:03:35pm

re: #169 satan sidekick

Honor Islam day on 9/11--that's some sick shit! Sorry for the language but it was the first thing that made the short trip Thu my head.

177 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:04:54pm

Check out this idiocy from the LA Times.

Torture: the new abortion

178 Gearhead  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:04:59pm
Rudy Giuliani is quickly becoming CAIR’s least favorite presidential candidate.

Now that's an endorsement!

179 Highrise  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:05:17pm

re: #162 unstable


Yes that is odd. I haven't heard that one before. Veterans' day is a respectful nod to the veteran for doing a service to the country. MLK day is to celebrate that man and what he stood for, not the skin color of people.

180 WrathofG-d  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:05:37pm

re: #175 ladycatnip

If she truly is that religous of a Muslim (evidenced by the fact that she wears the head scarf) wouldn't that mean that she is also only able to dress the hair of women? Accordingly, by outright refusing to dress the hair of men, wouldn't any company that hires her be opening themselves up to law suits regarding sexual discrimination? (ie: I went to get my hair done at X but Muslim lady wouldn't dress my hair solely because I was a man.)

181 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:05:51pm
The American Automobile Association of California said some drivers are now paying up to $5 a gallon for regular unleaded gasoline.

Crude oil prices hit an all-time high Wednesday, above $98 a barrel and analysts said with worldwide oil demand rising -- it is still not clear just how high prices will go.

Really glad...I moved. [Link: www.theksbwchannel.com...]

182 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:05:57pm

Charles must be out riding. I hope so. cause i'm gonna sneak in the cookie jar and get a big ole mouthful of oreo's! :)

don't tell...sshhhhhhh

183 WrathofG-d  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:07:40pm

re: #179 Highrise

MLK: ...not by the color of my skin but the content of my character....

Black Person Today: What? I can get a day off SOLELY because of the color of my skin?....saweeeet! Count me in!

184 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:07:44pm

mmuurff, muffrrff, blufffrfffff, murrf blurrff , fffurrff, furff. . bwweaafafaaaafafaf......* chomp, chomp chomp....

185 NY Nana  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:07:45pm

re: #165 Bubblehead II

This one?

I have them saved, and one, indeed, has been removed: YouTube - Stuck Mojo Open Season Remix (with "For The Cause Of Allah)

186 MJ  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:08:05pm

Can Edward Said replace Muhammad as idol worship?

Palestine Mural unveiled

by Devin O'Keefe, staff writer
November 3, 2007 4:59 PM


On Nov. 2, the General Union of Palestine Students (GUPS) unveiled the long awaited Palestinian Cultural Mural on the Cesar Chavez Student Center following two years of preparation and controversy.

Two hours of speeches, poetry, traditional dances, and hip-hop preceded the unveiling, which was greeted by applause and cheering from the audience of about 200.

The unveiling, which participants and audience members alike celebrated with dance, came at the midpoint of a day-long celebration organized by the GUPS and the Student Center.

“It’s interesting because Edward Said in his writings is first and foremost a humanist,” David Tan, 30, said. Tan, who received his Master’s degree in Philosophy from SF State in 2004, said he was interested in the choice of Said as a figure for the mural. “What I’ve been able to pick up is that he wrote about the Palestinian issue not from an ‘Islamic jihadist’ perspective but from a humanist perspective.”


[Link: xpress.sfsu.edu...]

187 Iron Fist  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:09:15pm

re: #169 satan sidekick,

They should discuss the contributions of atomic power to world peace on Hiroshima day. Really. And review the potential contributions of atomic power to world peace on 9-11.

Rinse and repeat until it gets through their thick skulls.

188 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:09:26pm
189 Mardukhai  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:09:35pm

Again, the Islamists drinking too much whine.

190 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:09:39pm

re: #183 WrathofG-d

re: #179 Highrise

MLK: ...not by the color of my skin but the content of my character....

Black Person Today: What? I can get a day off SOLELY because of the color of my skin?....saweeeet! Count me in!


mexican illegals did the "strike" thing for the same reason. Sure, some were in it for their " rights"( which they do not have as illegals), but most were in it for a free day off because they were the right color. And at my company - the consequences were...well,.......nonexistant.

I think next week I'll take Tuesday off to protest having to wear pants.

191 itellu3times  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:09:54pm

re: #28 Just_A_Grunt

I am still leaning Fred, since he seems to be good at hacking off a small segment of every group. What's not to like?

There is something to that, and it's not that uncommon a basis for people supporting politicians, however, if you don't mind me sticking in my big BUT here, aren't we really better off if we can find some purely positive aspect to the candidates we want to support?
/sermon

192 satan sidekick  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:11:08pm

re: #176 Nevergiveup

No kidding! Made my head explode too!

193 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:11:50pm
Charlotte,N.C.-based Internet jihadist Samir Khan, who’s still hate-blogging, threatens the life of pseudonymous Jawa Report founder Rusty Shackleford after the Jawas wreak hot-linking havoc on the jihadist’s cyber-assets:

O Allah kill Rusty Shackleford and terrorize his family.

O Allah kill Rusty Shackleford and terrorize his family.

O Allah kill Rusty Shackleford and terrorize his family.

May this Kaafir rot in this world and be tortured forever in the Hereafter.

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

194 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:11:53pm

re: #181 storagemanager

Let me check the map. Most of the gas stations in CA are around $3.50 (and keep in mind that a not insignificant chunk of that is in the form of taxes).

195 Miss Trixie  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:12:03pm

re: #184 Owl

mmuurff, muffrrff, blufffrfffff, murrf blurrff , fffurrff, furff. . bwweaafafaaaafafaf......* chomp, chomp chomp....

/Passes Owl a nice large glass of icy-cold moo juice

:D

Say, are there any dark chocolate macadamia nut cookies in there?

196 tfc3rid  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:12:16pm

re: #119 Just_A_Grunt

Here in the Northeast, there are no private companies off for Veteran's Day.... It is forgotten... Very sad.

197 Iron Fist  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:12:42pm

re: #193 storagemanager,

Blood for the Blood god!

198 Nevergiveup  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:13:05pm

re: #188 buzzsawmonkey

Well they would likely need a wealthy benefactor to get involved with a project this big---you know kinda like Oprah and the school in South Africa--hey now that Rosie is not going to work for MSNBC......

199 TheMole  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:14:52pm

re: #187 Iron Fist

Your screen name! It makes this link simply mandatory.

Giuliani's Iron Fist

200 Ezekiel2517  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:15:44pm

I would like to urge CAIR to voluntarily die in a fire.

201 Just_A_Grunt  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:15:50pm

re: #191 itellu3times

re: #28 Just_A_Grunt

I am still leaning Fred, since he seems to be good at hacking off a small segment of every group. What's not to like?

There is something to that, and it's not that uncommon a basis for people supporting politicians, however, if you don't mind me sticking in my big BUT here, aren't we really better off if we can find some purely positive aspect to the candidates we want to support?
/sermon

As long as it isn't pandering. I won't support somebody who says something in front of a group of mostly Jewish folks and then something totally different at a Lions club meeting. I see that in Rudy's case as well as Hillary and Romney and Obama, but I don't get a lot of it from Fred.
The questions about Fred all come about cases he represented as a lawyer, but when comparing his record when he was in the Senate and what he is saying today there isn't much difference. You know that whole nuance thing.

202 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:16:01pm

re: #191 itellu3times


i don't get it.


I think they're is a heckuva lot of "purely positive" things about Fred. And I haven't changed my Fred sticker to a Rudy one just yet either.......

I think if Fred would be more visible, and tell CAIR what he thinks about them and their facist backers, he'd be as big a target as Rudy. Problem is, Fred isn't quite on the edge enough IMHO. Someone said yesterday he needs to get out there and start swinging a big bat - or something like that - and I totally agree. But the thing is, he's going to have to swing it for 4 years...and in that respect, I feel bad for saying it - but I think Rudy might be more up to the task at hand.

I hate yankees though. crap it. :)

203 Iron Fist  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:16:02pm

re: #199 TheMole,

Heh™ :-)

Thanks.

204 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:16:21pm

Tommy Lee Jones to Co-Host Peace Concert

OSLO, Norway, Nov. 7, 2007 - Tommy Lee Jones will co-host the Nobel Peace Prize concert for former Vice President Al Gore - his roommate at Harvard University - and representatives from the United Nations' climate change panel.

The lineup for this year's Dec. 11 concert honoring Nobel Peace Prize laureates includes Alicia Keys, Annie Lennox and Melissa Etheridge, who won an Oscar for the song "I Need to Wake Up," which was featured in Gore's environmental documentary, "An Inconvenient Truth."

Jones, 61, won a supporting actor Oscar in 1994 for "The Fugitive." His screen credits also include "JFK," "Natural Born Killers" and the "Men in Black" movies.

His co-host for the concert will be announced later, organizers said Tuesday.

I didn't know he drank the global warming kool-aid.

205 Big Al  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:16:23pm
Rudy Giuliani is quickly becoming CAIR’s least favorite presidential candidate.

And that is precisely why he is my favorite presidential candidate!

206 Guy_Philly  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:16:43pm

We are fortunate to have several really good presidential candidates in the Republican party. I would be satisfied with any of the top 4 as president. None are perfect, but all are preferable to any of the Dems that are running.

My impression of Rudy is as follows:
He is very pro-business (a good quality), loyal to the party (also a good quality), I have no doubt he would be tough on terrorism anywhere we find it (essential), he plays tough, but is articulate, and he would be fiscally responsible. These are very important issues. On the down side are his positions on illegal immigration, gun control, and some social issues. He has also demonstrated on more than one occasion that his judgment of people he surrounds himself with has been flawed on more than one occasion. Not perfect, to say the least, but quite possibly the best person for the job at hand. I am still waiting for Thompson to be the old Thompson, but he might have lost a little of the edge he used to have.

207 Pvt Bin Jammin  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:17:05pm

re: #193 storagemanager
I saw that on Rusty's site. I hope the FBI is raiding his parent's basement about now.

208 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:17:15pm
209 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:17:26pm

re: #195 Miss Trixie

re: #184 Owl


mmuurff, muffrrff, blufffrfffff, murrf blurrff , fffurrff, furff. . bwweaafafaaaafafaf......* chomp, chomp chomp....

/Passes Owl a nice large glass of icy-cold moo juice

:D

Say, are there any dark chocolate macadamia nut cookies in there?


Mif Fink Theah rrrr in thah Buttumm uff thaah jaaaaaaaahr.

( and thanks for the "moo-juice" ! haha)

210 jcm  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:17:31pm

re: #160 JammieWearingFool

Here's some post on the Bay Haven sham.

Saw that, I guess that means the lesson will be about Sgt. York?
(not)

211 TMF  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:18:34pm

Wonder who they DO endorse?

Obama? Ron Paul?

212 Opinionated  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:19:05pm

re: #94 satan sidekick

Palis building Pallywood - What a hoot!

Hamas envisions a glittering facility with production and graphics studios, satellite technology, gardens, water ponds, a children's entertainment area and an array of cafes and restaurants, said the Felasteen daily, a Hamas paper.

It will even feature mock towns and villages similar to those that Palestinians fled or were forced out after Israel's creation in 1948, the newspaper reported, quoting Fathi Hamad, a Hamas lawmaker and head of the project.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Anyone care to embeliish?

Can't wait to see the Child Sacrifice, the Work Accident, and the Car Swarm pavilion.

Mostly though I am looking for the "Al Dura Kill a kid and blame it on Israel" ride.

213 savage_nation[deleted]  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:20:15pm
214 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:20:16pm

re: #8 nikis-knight

Rudy Giuliani is quickly becoming CAIR’s least favorite presidential candidate.

That's the first endorsement I've seen that could seriously sway my vote.
(If it's down to Mitt or Rudy, I'm cool with either, despite significant differences.)

************************************************** *********
Couldn't agree with you more, NK. I hope whoever wins has the brains to pick Gov. Huckabee for VP. He'd be a hoot to listen to, the guy's really funny, plus the fact he's an evangelical Christian and an ordained Baptist minister would definitely help Mitt or Rudy overcome their supposedly social liberal labels.

215 Miss Trixie  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:21:37pm
Mostly though I am looking for the "Al Dura Kill a kid and blame it on Israel" ride.

Not to mention

"Whack-A-Mo".

:D

216 ladycatnip  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:22:23pm

#180 WrathofG-D

If she truly is that religous of a Muslim (evidenced by the fact that she wears the head scarf) wouldn't that mean that she is also only able to dress the hair of women? Accordingly, by outright refusing to dress the hair of men, wouldn't any company that hires her be opening themselves up to law suits regarding sexual discrimination? (ie: I went to get my hair done at X but Muslim lady wouldn't dress my hair solely because I was a man.)

Great point - hadn't thought that far, but you're absolutely right. I suspect though, that the frail feelings of islamists will take precedence over sexual discrimination. I'm thinking of the article about women in burkas working in Target refusing to touch any pork products, so they have go get another employee to do it for them.

The more the West caters to their religion the more it's being shoved down our throats.

217 1SG(ret)  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:22:28pm

re: #193 storagemanager

Does realwest know this guy's in his backyard?

Top

218 LEGION  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:23:04pm

re: #95 NJDhockeyfan

Hair today, gone tommorrow! Har har har poor babyyyyy.

219 Yashmak  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:24:35pm
How long before someone says I'm "aligned with CAIR" because I'm not a fan of Pat Robertson?

- Charles Johnson

Well, you'd be in good company. I've considered Pat Robertson a bufoon for quite a while now, and didn't view his endorsement of Giuliani as a positive at all (although I didn't really see it as a negative either).

220 I_Invented_Al_Gore  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:26:00pm
Rudy Giuliani is quickly becoming CAIR’s least favorite presidential candidate.

LOL. I'd love to know what Rudy said in private once he heard about this.

221 jcm  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:27:02pm

OT

Add this to the Chicago O'Hare raid on illegals, .idden camera video shows gaping holes in Sea-Tac security.

222 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:27:33pm

re: #220 I_Invented_Al_Gore

Rudy Giuliani is quickly becoming CAIR’s least favorite presidential candidate.

LOL. I'd love to know what Rudy said in private once he heard about this.

" Boo -yah."

223 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:28:00pm
You guys have heard of this book, right? Google says you can download the whole translation as a .pdf here (that'll be huge --link fixed), or you can buy it from Amazon, too.

Anyway, interesting book written by a couple of Chinese colonels about how to destroy America through means other than direct confrontation.

One of those methods is "currency warfare". What do we see this AM? No, not the Gisele Bundchen story--we see China dumping its reserves of the dollar and talking trash about it. Sarkozy said this could lead to "economic war". Could lead?

Another is

"drug warfare" (obtaining sudden and huge illicit profits from spreading disaster in other countries)
And lo and behold, it's time for the GHB-stuffed children's toys! it's Aqua-dots in the U.S.; I saw a headline about a similar product in Australia as well.

That's just bizarre. I can see lead getting into something through manufacturing processes, or antifreeze being used to cut corn syrup in toothpaste because it's cheaper and tastes sweet, but date-rape juice in kids' toys? Toys that look like little candy dots?

[Link: hotair.com...]

224 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:28:07pm
225 BingoBunny  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:30:25pm

CAIR spokesman also said "soon all Christians and Jews will feel our peaceful swords on their neck, and Muslims will dominate the world as Allah directs us.".. but there was nothing religious in that statement, according to MSM listeners.

226 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:30:44pm

re: #223 storagemanager

You guys have heard of this book, right? Google says you can download the whole translation as a .pdf here (that'll be huge --link fixed), or you can buy it from Amazon, too.
Anyway, interesting book written by a couple of Chinese colonels about how to destroy America through means other than direct confrontation.

One of those methods is "currency warfare". What do we see this AM? No, not the Gisele Bundchen story--we see China dumping its reserves of the dollar and talking trash about it. Sarkozy said this could lead to "economic war". Could lead?

Another is

"drug warfare" (obtaining sudden and huge illicit profits from spreading disaster in other countries)
And lo and behold, it's time for the GHB-stuffed children's toys! it's Aqua-dots in the U.S.; I saw a headline about a similar product in Australia as well.

That's just bizarre. I can see lead getting into something through manufacturing processes, or antifreeze being used to cut corn syrup in toothpaste because it's cheaper and tastes sweet, but date-rape juice in kids' toys? Toys that look like little candy dots?


[Link: hotair.com...]


I'm an idiot when it comes to the inner workings of China, and I admit that. However, i seem to recall in various stories, about China using up more resources than it has/can make. So, deliberate attack on American children - or just running out or manufacturing materials and finding whateve they can to keep industry in China going? I hope and pray everyday that the economy of China eats itself alive before they get so big that they can threaten us outright.

227 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:31:04pm
228 Iron Fist  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:31:14pm

re: #224 Occasional Reader,

I wish he'd just tell the truth. He didn't have his hand over his heart because he doesn't feel patriotic towards the United States. His "patriotism" is trans-national and multi-cultural.

Pan-Islamic? I don't know, but I wouldn't rule it out.

229 NoSubmission  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:31:20pm

re: #75 taxfreekiller

Could be we need to run a "what/who piss's off the islamics the most" poll and run with the winner of that.


Good idea. I love polls!

230 eLoser  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:31:59pm

teh kittehs are watchin us:
[Link: lolinator.com...]

231 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:32:21pm

re: #227 taxfreekiller

#214

Hackabee is the most liberal of them all,

Fact check him.

How many of Bill Clinton's appointies did he fire when he took office?

Who arranged for a $1.00 per year for the Mexican Consulate for three years when they first opened in Ark.?

ya, if you team two liberal R's that a great help.


TFK is right on this....Huckabee has some baggage, and I'm a Christian and I'd love to back him...but no can do.

232 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:33:10pm
233 jcm  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:33:59pm

re: #232 taxfreekiller

All's China got is the stuff Clinton stole "(oops sold_" and handed to them.

Free trade, the term is free trade. /

234 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:34:39pm

I think Charles took the long route today! Maybe we'll get some pics of the ocean or something? He really has a great eye for photographs, ya know? I love the beach scenes. The bike rims? meh. they're okaaaaaaaay if you're some kind of goofy, doofus bike riding CAIR member. ;)


/kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiding.

235 Trent_Boyett  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:35:49pm

Please stop posting these Rudy is awesome articles. I can only vote for the man once Charles. I'm not a Democrat for crying out loud!

/Loving Rudy even more...

236 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:36:00pm

The timing will be questioned:

Report: Al Qaeda Targeting Malls

Dougie Hooper was unavailable for comment.

237 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:36:21pm

maybe there is a new post and it's a uber secret invisible post?


oooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh...high tech.

well, anyway, i gotta head for home. work day's over. hopefully, i'll see you all tomorrow. have a great night lizard nation.

238 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:36:25pm

re: #208 savage_nation

re: #204 NJDhockeyfan

Tommy Lee Jones to Co-Host Peace Concert
OSLO, Norway, Nov. 7, 2007 - Tommy Lee Jones will co-host the Nobel Peace Prize concert for former Vice President Al Gore - his roommate at Harvard University - and representatives from the United Nations' climate change panel.

The lineup for this year's Dec. 11 concert honoring Nobel Peace Prize laureates includes Alicia Keys, Annie Lennox and Melissa Etheridge, who won an Oscar for the song "I Need to Wake Up," which was featured in Gore's environmental documentary, "An Inconvenient Truth."

Jones, 61, won a supporting actor Oscar in 1994 for "The Fugitive." His screen credits also include "JFK," "Natural Born Killers" and the "Men in Black" movies.

His co-host for the concert will be announced later, organizers said Tuesday.

I didn't know he drank the global warming kool-aid.
Well, he was Al Gore's roommate in college...


What is it with actors and thier thinking we want to know thier opinions. Considering the majority of them haven't even graduated high school

239 NoSubmission  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:36:28pm

re: #224 Occasional Reader

OT: If I were Obama, I'd have gone with the following defense: "The reason I didn't have my hand over my heart was because I didn't recognize that butchered Gospel song as the Star-Spangled Banner... "


Worst rendition of the Star-Spangled Banner ever.

And then there's Barak Hussein Obama. Who is this man really? Who is he pretending to be?

240 Yankee Division Son  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:37:19pm
Rudy Giuliani is quickly becoming CAIR’s least favorite presidential candidate.

Yet another reason he's my favorite.

241 lobo91  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:37:39pm

re: #223 storagemanager

That's just bizarre. I can see lead getting into something through manufacturing processes, or antifreeze being used to cut corn syrup in toothpaste because it's cheaper and tastes sweet, but date-rape juice in kids' toys?

My understanding of this is that there's not actually GHB in the toys, but some combination of chemicals that, when ingested, turns into GHB in the kids' systems.

I'm certainly no fan of the Chinese, but this one may just be another case of crappy quality control, rather than an intentional thing.

242 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:38:30pm

re: #185 NY Nana

re: #165 Bubblehead II

This one?

I have them saved, and one, indeed, has been removed: YouTube - Stuck Mojo Open Season Remix (with "For The Cause Of Allah)

I just clicked (again) on Mandy's link and it took me straight to it and looks to be the same as your "this one link". So either they deleted it and someone put it back up or she ran into a glitch. Don't know either way, but it is a kick ass video. :)

243 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:38:33pm

re: #228 Iron Fist

He didn't have his hand over his heart because he doesn't feel patriotic towards the United States.

That may be so, but I ascribe his gaffe to reflexive cluelessness. He should have realized that it was political poison not to place his hand on his heart; I think he's just not all there.

That said, I had to listen very carefully to the audio on that link before I could recognize the anthem... Nothing against Gospel music, but the SSB isn't a gospel song, folks. Nor is it polka, barbershop quartet, or norteña. I don't like it when they try to jazz up the Anthem too much. It's a perfectly good piece of music, played straight up.

244 Bob in Breckenridge  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:39:11pm

The lineup for this year's Dec. 11 concert honoring Nobel Peace Prize laureates includes Alicia Keys, Annie Lennox and Melissa Etheridge

Alicia Keys, Annie Lennox and Melissa Etheridge? That's it? That's the best they could do? I've seen more exciting line-ups at the local police station...

245 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:39:12pm

HEADS UP! TIDAL WAVE HEADING FOR ENGLISH CHANNEL - POSES EXTREME DANGER TO LIFE

on drudge now. no siren. oddly.


tsunami? quake? didn't click it - ran back to tell the lizards. LOOK OUT OVER THERE!

246 NCusTranshumanist  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:39:27pm

Wow. I was ready to cross Rudy off for good with the Robertson endorsement, but this puts me in a conundrum.

Tell R'son to pound sand, and miss an opportunity to poke CAIR in the eye, or deal with the sour taste of agreeing with that freak on anything.

Decisions, decisions...

Or I can tell 'em both to kiss off.

Go Fred!

247 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:39:55pm

re: #239 NoSubmission

Worst rendition of the Star-Spangled Banner ever.

And did you notice the PC touch of the sign language interpreter? Good grief.

248 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:40:23pm

Less than 90 minutes to cast your ballots in the Weblog awards.

Some races going down to the wire.

249 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:40:35pm

re: #239 NoSubmission

re: #224 Occasional Reader

OT: If I were Obama, I'd have gone with the following defense: "The reason I didn't have my hand over my heart was because I didn't recognize that butchered Gospel song as the Star-Spangled Banner... "


Worst rendition of the Star-Spangled Banner ever.

And then there's Barak Hussein Obama. Who is this man really? Who is he pretending to be?

As opposed to the best rendition of the National Anthem ever.

250 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:41:24pm
Tehran, 8 Nov. (AKI) – Two Iranian journalists, known for their criticism of the government and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, have been stabbed in the past 24 hours.

Reza Avaspour, head of the sports weekly, Varzesh (Sport), was stabbed Wednesday evening in Kerman, in western Iran, while leaving the office.

Avazpour was in surgery for four hours and risked losing a leg because of the wounds inflicted by two unknown assailants armed with knives.

The director of Varzesh had received several threats in recent weeks from a group that calls itself Allah's Soldiers.

Varzesh has published several investigative pieces in which they accused actual directors of the football federation and one of Ahmadinejad's deputies of wanting to sink Iranian football.

While striking the newspaper editor, the attackers berated him for having criticised the president and called him a "servant of the Americans".

[Link: www.adnkronos.com...]

251 PeaceAtAllCosts  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:42:09pm

Our nation's defense and the defeat of Global Islam is the number one issue on my mind. Where are the other Republicans and why haven't they put up their dukes in a meaningful way?

Rudy has earned my vote for being out front and confronting our internal and external enemies.

252 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:42:13pm

ok, well it's just a storm. a big one i guess. i thought it was an immediate threat. what i get for not clickin' the article. sorry. ok, outta here.

253 jcm  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:42:36pm

re: #245 Owl

HEADS UP! TIDAL WAVE HEADING FOR ENGLISH CHANNEL - POSES EXTREME DANGER TO LIFE

on drudge now. no siren. oddly.


tsunami? quake? didn't click it - ran back to tell the lizards. LOOK OUT OVER THERE!

Tidal Surge, coupled with storm surge and high winds.

254 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:42:53pm

re: #249 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

"Hey, it's Enrico Palazzo!"

255 tfc3rid  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:43:04pm

re: #245 Owl

Sounds like a 3 meter storm surge...

256 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:43:20pm

re: #244 Bob in Breckenridge

The lineup for this year's Dec. 11 concert honoring Nobel Peace Prize laureates includes Alicia Keys, Annie Lennox and Melissa Etheridge

Alicia Keys, Annie Lennox and Melissa Etheridge? That's it? That's the best they could do? I've seen more exciting line-ups at the local police station...

At least Alicia Keys is easy on the eyes.

Not that I'll be watching.

257 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:43:31pm

re: #241 lobo91

re: #223 storagemanager


That's just bizarre. I can see lead getting into something through manufacturing processes, or antifreeze being used to cut corn syrup in toothpaste because it's cheaper and tastes sweet, but date-rape juice in kids' toys?

My understanding of this is that there's not actually GHB in the toys, but some combination of chemicals that, when ingested, turns into GHB in the kids' systems.

I'm certainly no fan of the Chinese, but this one may just be another case of crappy quality control, rather than an intentional thing.

Thats not what they reported...on Fox news tv....they were talking with a Doctor...he said it was GHB.

258 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:44:27pm

re: #253 jcm

Tidal Surge

Except in Europe it's pronounced Tidal Serge.

259 Ben Hur  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:44:47pm
260 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:45:16pm
261 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:45:22pm

re: #256 JammieWearingFool

At least Alicia Keys is easy on the eyes.

She is. Unfortunately, she's a moonbaticus extraordinaire. "I see lies in that flag", she was quoted as saying about the stars & stripes a few years ago.

262 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:45:33pm

re: #245 Owl

It's a storm surge expected from a North Sea storm. Nasty stuff.

263 NoSubmission  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:46:07pm

re: #247 Occasional Reader

And did you notice the PC touch of the sign language interpreter?


No.. Just tried to watch/listen again. But it is just too painful.

264 nikis-knight  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:46:12pm

re: #191 itellu3times

re: #28 Just_A_Grunt


I am still leaning Fred, since he seems to be good at hacking off a small segment of every group. What's not to like?

There is something to that, and it's not that uncommon a basis for people supporting politicians, however, if you don't mind me sticking in my big BUT here, aren't we really better off if we can find some purely positive aspect to the candidates we want to support?
/sermon


Worked for Lincoln.

265 maddogg  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:46:30pm

Hummmmm. Any word on that NRA endorsement?

266 Ben Hur  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:46:36pm

Oh, and George Bush hates British people.

They've got a tidal wave coming there way. A real one.

Either that or it was another US/ISrael/India underwater nuke test.

267 mad_scientist  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:47:24pm

re: #236 JammieWearingFool

The timing will be questioned:
Report: Al Qaeda Targeting Malls

Dougie Hooper was unavailable for comment.

It always is......

268 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:47:33pm

Our troops are being killed by Iran...in Iraq....and Iraq thanks us

........BASRA, Iraq, Nov. 8 Iraq and Iran may be moving ahead on a cross-river oil pipeline, a move the Iraq ministry has talked about but was further down the road.Media reports are carrying the word of a source in Iraq's South Oil Co. that the pipeline construction has started.

The South Oil Co. is a state-owned entity producing and transporting oil from Basra and surrounding areas, where 80 percent of Iraq's oil reserves are located.

[Link: www.earthtimes.org...]

269 lobo91  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:47:36pm

re: #257 storagemanager

Thats not what they reported...on Fox news tv....they were talking with a Doctor...he said it was GHB.

That was exactly where I saw the report I was referring to, while I was getting ready for work this morning. They had some female doctor on there talking about it.

270 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:47:40pm

re: #262 lawhawk

North Sea storm. Nasty stuff.

Global warming!

#263 NoSub:

No.. Just tried to watch/listen again. But it is just too painful.

My American Sign Language is a little rusty, but if I'm not mistaken the interepreter is signing, "BE THANKFUL YOU'RE DEAF AT THIS MOMENT".

271 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:48:55pm
272 Owl  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:48:58pm

Pelosi would withhold funding for troops( that are defending her sorry ASS), if we agree to surrender. not kidding - Pelosi blackmails for surrender

273 MandyManners  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:49:08pm

re: #242 Bubblehead II

re: #185 NY Nana


re: #165 Bubblehead II

This one?

I have them saved, and one, indeed, has been removed: YouTube - Stuck Mojo Open Season Remix (with "For The Cause Of Allah)


I just clicked (again) on Mandy's link and it took me straight to it and looks to be the same as your "this one link". So either they deleted it and someone put it back up or she ran into a glitch. Don't know either way, but it is a kick ass video. :)

The link I posted here is good. The link I was referring to (it had Walid Shoebat on first, then, Doug Shit-Slinging-Monkey Hoopie) goes to a screen that said it was removed due to violation of the term of use.

274 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:50:32pm

re: #269 lobo91

re: #257 storagemanager


Thats not what they reported...on Fox news tv....they were talking with a Doctor...he said it was GHB.

That was exactly where I saw the report I was referring to, while I was getting ready for work this morning. They had some female doctor on there talking about it.

The one I saw...had a male Doctor..talking to E.D.Hill.

275 arf  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:51:10pm

Rudy is acquiring an impressive list of enemies. I have to admit, the more enemies like CAIR, the more I come to like Rudy. He must be doing something right if those types hate him so much.

276 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:52:33pm

re: #274 storagemanager

re: #269 lobo91

re: #257 storagemanager


Thats not what they reported...on Fox news tv....they were talking with a Doctor...he said it was GHB.


That
was exactly where I saw the report I was referring to, while I was
getting ready for work this morning. They had some female doctor on
there talking about it.

The one I saw...had a male Doctor..talking to E.D.Hill.

Was he trying to demonstrate how they work with E.D. Hill?

277 Catttt  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:57:10pm

re: #239 NoSubmission

re: #224 Occasional Reader


OT: If I were Obama, I'd have gone with the following defense: "The reason I didn't have my hand over my heart was because I didn't recognize that butchered Gospel song as the Star-Spangled Banner... "

Worst rendition of the Star-Spangled Banner ever.

And then there's Barak Hussein Obama. Who is this man really? Who is he pretending to be?

Ouch. That really was bad. Here is a better version - complete with an F-16 overflight.

278 looking closely  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 12:59:22pm

re: #4 Charles

How long before someone says I'm "aligned with CAIR" because I'm not a fan of Pat Robertson?

(Note: I'm not calling for Rudy to reject his endorsement.)


Charles, you're aligned with CAIR? Never would have figured it!

By my estimate, that took about 2 hours.

Seriously, there probably are *some* positions that CAIR has that you or I could agree with. Even if CAIR is whiny, partisan, and bought-and-paid for by the Saudi Wahhabists, there probably actually are occasional real incidents of "Islamophobia".

Even the proverbial blind pig occasionally finds an acorn.

As to Giuliani, its a nice thing to see that some of the Christian "Social Conservatives" are getting on board.

Its certainly not news, but I just learned that Giuliani served as Associate Attorney General of the USA in the Reagan administration. Didn't know that, but that is a heck of a credential to be bringing to the Office of the President during the current war and AG mess.

279 funkyfantom  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:02:56pm

re: #188 buzzsawmonkey

re: #94 satan sidekick

Palis building Pallywood - What a hoot!

Hamas envisions a glittering facility with production and graphics studios, satellite technology, gardens, water ponds, a children's entertainment area and an array of cafes and restaurants, said the Felasteen daily, a Hamas paper. It will even feature mock towns and villages similar to those that Palestinians fled or were forced out after Israel's creation in 1948, the newspaper reported, quoting Fathi Hamad, a Hamas lawmaker and head of the project.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]Anyone care to embeliish?

We are constantly told that the residents of Gaza are starving, without medicine or medical facilities, that their housing is destroyed--and this is what Hamas is blowing its welfare check on?

Proof positive--if any further proof were needed from a society where people will buy guns, bullets, and bomb-making supplies in preference to the necessities of life--that the Gazans, and the people who "govern" them, are deranged. Who is going to travel to Gaza to see this theme park and linger in its (alcohol-free) restaurants? How will they get there--by tunnel from Egypt? Where will they stay; will there be armored buses to this tourist destination from the Gaza Bunker-Hilton, to protect the visitors from Hamas street rambunctiousness? What will the tourists do once they have exhausted the possibilities of Pali-Never-Never-Land? Even in Orlando, Disney World and Universal Studios feed off each other's visitors--but there is no place else in Gaza to go. Granted the nightly fireworks displays rocket launchings will surely be spectacular, but that is hardly enough basis for building up a tourist trade.

If the Gazans wanted a steady income, they might have considered leaving the greenhouses intact, instead of wasting their dole money on this folly. But of course its very uselessness is part of the point--it is merely a propaganda prop for Hamas, just as the Gazans themselves are.

I think you are taking Pallywood more seriously than the hamasholes themselves.

They are far too ignorant and incompetent to do anything more sophisticated than blow up a bomb or shoot off a rocket. Besides, Hollywood does their propaganda work for them anyway, no charge.

280 arf  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:03:22pm

With enemies like Rangel [and Olbermann, and Huffington, and Joe Biden] does Giuliani need friends?

[Link: www.spectator.org...]

281 Perry  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:05:30pm

re: #228 Iron Fist

Mr. Fist, did you see Michaels Yon's post here? [Link: www.michaelyon-online.com...]

Not quite your fondest wish, but a wonderful sight anyway...

282 oilbertan  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:07:22pm

So Pat Robertson and by extension Rudy are guilty of anti Muslim and Islamic bigotry for criticizing Islam and Islamists. But CAIR and all the mosques not to mention virtually every ME country are welcoming of other religions, especially Christians and Joos. Not! The day Islamists allow freedom of religion in Islamic countries (and lets start with Saudi Arabia), treat women as equals instead of chattels and generally speaking, stop killing people because they are not Muslims (or even the right kind of Muslims as they seem to be killing more Muslims lately than anyone else) and join the rest of us in the 21st century is the day I will start taking CAIR's complaints seriously. Until then Ibrahim Hooper and the rest of his Islamic apologist/whiners should just STFU and vote for the Dhimmocrats as per usual.

283 least  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:08:19pm

There are plenty of reasons to NOT want BH Obama to be anywhere near the presidency, but a misleading photo from a misleading e-mail shouldn't be one of them.

And I've said it since I first heard it - that has got to be one of the all-time worst renditions of the Star Spangled Banner.

Did anyone note that CNN says that the US Code (?) says that, when the National Anthem is played, all present should face the flag -- so all them Dems violated that code.

284 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:09:49pm

re: #283 least

but a misleading photo

How is the photo misleading?

285 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:13:07pm
286 vagabond trader  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:14:02pm

re: #281 Perry

That is very nice. Of course the same is happening with Baghdad synagogues, eh? Thought not.

287 Iron Fist  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:15:31pm

re: #281 Perry,

I saw that. Maybe there is hope.

{Perry}

Long time, no see. Hope all is well.

288 johnnygriswold  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:16:49pm

"Rudy Giuliani is quickly becoming CAIR’s least favorite presidential candidate."

This is why Rudy Giuliani has been my MOST favorite presidential candidate!

289 cygnus  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:19:18pm

re: #239 NoSubmission

re: #224 Occasional Reader

OT: If I were Obama, I'd have gone with the following defense: "The reason I didn't have my hand over my heart was because I didn't recognize that butchered Gospel song as the Star-Spangled Banner... "


Worst rendition of the Star-Spangled Banner ever.

And then there's Barak Hussein Obama. Who is this man really? Who is he pretending to be?

No No - this has to be the worst ever. Though I didn't like her Gospel version either.

290 oneman  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:20:21pm

I'm with the guy way up top who said that this makes Rudy a lot more palatable -- if Fred doesn't turn up the volume pretty soon.

291 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:20:34pm

re: #289 cygnus

Yep, she should have been stripped of her citizenship after that fiasco!

292 least  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:21:15pm

re: #284 Occasional Reader

It is captioned, "Barak Obama refuses to place his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Alliegance"
And please, please, please know that I in absolutely no way -- repeat: no )*^&(&^ way want to see BHO or any of the Demo Surrender Monkeys in the White House. K
Thanks to cattt for the Star Spangle Banner link -- now that's singin'!

293 cygnus  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:21:31pm

re: #253 jcm

re: #245 Owl

HEADS UP! TIDAL WAVE HEADING FOR ENGLISH CHANNEL - POSES EXTREME DANGER TO LIFE

on drudge now. no siren. oddly.


tsunami? quake? didn't click it - ran back to tell the lizards. LOOK OUT OVER THERE!

Tidal Surge, coupled with storm surge and high winds.

There's probably a large tidal exchange now because of New Moon tomorrow.

294 NY Nana  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:22:53pm

re: #165 Bubblehead II

Re YouTube? [deleted].

295 least  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:23:41pm

re: #289 cygnus

I had forgotten the other Rosie's slash and burn rendering.
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!

296 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:24:47pm

re: #292 least

It is captioned, "Barak Obama refuses to place his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Alliegance"

I don't know what you're referring to. My link in #224 (which introduced the topic) is to a video clip from CNN, which is titled "Listening to the anthem: Democratic presidential candidates listen to the national anthem at the Harkin Steak Fry on September 16, 2007."

297 crabtree  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:24:57pm

Apparently CAIR has forgotten that Rudy told the Saudis and their money to take a flying leap afte 9/11. Somehow I don't think he's going to worry about not getting CAIR's endorsement. As far as I'm concerned, anyone that CAIR hates can't be all bad. I follow a similar principle in voting here in CA--if the Teachers' Union supports someone or something, I vote against it without a moment's hesitation. Saves a lot of time and reading. Heh, heh.

And re those toys, it is indeed a compound that is metabolized into GHB, not the drug itself. But I haven't seen an answer as to whether someone specified the chemical without realizing it had this property (seems hard to believe there would be so little research/thought in the design process) or if the chemical wasn't supposed to be there at all (another Chinese contamination problem.)

Doesn't it make you feel good to know that the vast majority of raw ingredients for the vitamins/supplements/drugs that we get here, come from China (and less so, India)?

298 Perry  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:25:09pm

re: #286 vagabond trader

I'm not holding my breath for that quite yet, but that image really shook me up--in a good way.


re: #287 Iron Fist

That picture really starts a Thanksgiving season for me. I thought of you when I saw it.
{Iron Fist} We're all kitties and bunnies here. And falling leaves.

299 NY Nana  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:28:23pm

re: #293 cygnus

It is worse than that.

I spoke to friends earlier, who live in Kent..they are worried, as this reminds them of when they were kids, in, IIRC, the 50's. The Thames Barrier should help.

300 CLLRusso  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:30:48pm

re: #280 arf

Some Huffey Post guy was on Fox yesterday, looking to be about 15, and out of the gate made a statement that we should all remember Rudy dresses in drag. The moderator, Shepherd (?) Smith told him that was an unacceptable response and if he couldn't do any better he was done in the interview.

So I guess Robertson's for Rudy, John Hagee more or less said he could vote for Mitt, and Dr. Dobson is going to find his own candidate. I think Dobson did himself in by indicating he would split the ticket over abortion. He fails to remember the numbers of women that are pro-choice are far more than pro-life, and that includes his following. He had better think this one through a whole lot better than he has or it will give the election to Hillary just as Bill won in 1992.

301 funkyfantom  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:32:45pm

re: #286 vagabond trader

re: #281 Perry

That is very nice. Of course the same is happening with Baghdad synagogues, eh? Thought not.

You mean the one surviving synagogue out of the hundreds that were
seized or destroyed?

302 cygnus  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:34:07pm

re: #295 least

re: #289 cygnus

I had forgotten the other Rosie's slash and burn rendering.
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!

If we played that version to terrorists at Gitmo, it would be torture!
Not everybody can sing it, of course. A range of an octave and a fifth is a bit too much for most.

303 NY Nana  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:38:03pm
304 boocat  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:45:55pm

I feel Islamists are more terrifying than the Nazis were because the Islamists seem to hate everything western. They want to destroy us and our entire world.

The mega-mosque plan in London is an example of a method they use other than outright destruction, i.e., bombing. I believe their idea is to slowly rewrite the history of London by spreading through it like a cancer, the way they did long ago in Constantinople. St. James will eventually end up defiled the way St. Sophia's did.

They work tirelessly excavating the Temple Mount and tossing Israel's history into a land fill. Moshe Dayan could never have envisioned this insane activity.

305 _remembertonyc  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:53:19pm

Rudy has his issues, no doubt about it. But any Republican that can win NY State has a great chance to win the election. And although some people I know who have had business dealings with Rudy call him an "ass hole," I have no problem with my President being an "ass hole" as long as that "ass hole" represents our interests well.

After all, when dealing with the likes of iran, putin, and other islamists, I want my guy to be an "ass hole."

306 funkyfantom  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:53:51pm

re: #304 boocat

I feel Islamists are more terrifying than the Nazis were because the Islamists seem to hate everything western. They want to destroy us and our entire world.

The mega-mosque plan in London is an example of a method they use other than outright destruction, i.e., bombing. I believe their idea is to slowly rewrite the history of London by spreading through it like a cancer, the way they did long ago in Constantinople. St. James will eventually end up defiled the way St. Sophia's did.

They work tirelessly excavating the Temple Mount and tossing Israel's history into a land fill. Moshe Dayan could never have envisioned this insane activity.

No, nazism is worse, because once the nazi authorities determine that you are "racially inferior" - you get tossed into the gas chamber. You can't convert your way out of that.

Islam is not consistent in that area - if they are angry at an infidel, they might cut his head off- sometimes they let you be a second class citizen paying the jizyah, sometimes they make you a slave, sometimes you can convert to Islam.

307 merokeman  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:55:14pm

If CAIR is agin him, I'm fer im

308 fuseman  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:57:15pm

cair attacking rudy.
lol

309 ContraJihadi  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:58:45pm

re: #275 arf

Rudy is acquiring an impressive list of enemies. I have to admit, the more enemies like CAIR, the more I come to like Rudy. He must be doing something right if those types hate him so much.

Two words: Norman Podhoretz

310 jcr  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 1:58:50pm

re: #2 Sharmuta

Sure, but it's probably the biggest setback that Rudy's campaign has had to date. Every other candidate is probably thinking "thank heavens we dodged that bullet. Sucks for Rudy, though."

-jcr

311 least  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 2:12:10pm

re: #296 Occasional Reader

Sorry 'bout the delay.
The photo and its caption that I'm referring to are contained in one of tose viral e-mails.
My wife received one.
She forwarded it to me.
Ordinarily, I delete any thing with a subject line that starts: Fw
This one started with MANY Fw's, so I know it's been well distributed.

312 Robert Schwartz  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 2:55:07pm
Rudy Giuliani is quickly becoming CAIR’s least favorite presidential candidate.

Which is why he is our most favorite.

313 SagamoreGal  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 2:58:45pm

All you need to know about Rudy was that he was telling the NY Times to go fuck themselves before the first World Trade Center terrorist attack.

314 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 3:02:48pm
315 LC LaWedgie  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 3:08:06pm

re: #224 Occasional Reader

"...I didn't recognize that butchered Gospel song as the Star-Spangled Banner... "

Defense disallowed: He should of at least put his hands over his ears.

316 jegjr  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 3:17:44pm

"...known for scathing attacks on Muslims and Islam."

Who's that - our Marines in Fallujah?

317 Highrise  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 3:47:20pm

cair knows that Pat is on the money when it comes to islam and telling people what it is about. Pat doesn't mince words and cair cringes each time. I don't follow Pat's program but have tuned into some of his islam exposure talks and found them to be pretty good.

cair feels the need to attack this backing probably because they think Christianity is like islam..issue a fatwa and people listen to their imam. It doesn't work that way atleast with the many Christians I have known. We tend to be pretty much free thinkers and dislike being told how to vote and why.

318 crabtree  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 4:21:13pm

I have concerns about a number of Rudy's policy positions, but I tend to favor him for one simple reason--he's a street fighter who won't be afraid to take on Hillary on her own terms. I think Romney is too much the corporate policy wonk and inclined to handle conflict and disagreement as if it was a Board room discussion. (viz. his answer about consulting the lawyers on Iran) and he would be eaten alive by the Clinton machine. In this campaign above all others, for the Republicans to continue their typical "we're too nice to get down and dirty in the trenches like the other guys do--we just want to get along" is a strategy for resounding defeat.

319 Wilderstad  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 4:51:07pm

Go Rudy!

320 Deadly sheep  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 4:52:31pm

re: #4 Charles

Perish the thought, I'd never say that.

But I might say...The Lizard King is secretly aligned with Pat Robertson.
/hahahahaha

321 crashland  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 5:07:56pm

Although Rudy is pro-choice and I firmly believe choice begins before conception and not after... I believe he is the one that will actually do his best to protect us. Terrorists kill everybody even pregnant women. If they win, there is no hope. First point on any agenda needs to be our protection against evil, radical fiends who strap bombs on and walk onto buses, into cafes etc.

I don't have to hold my nose to vote for Rudy. I just want somebody with the balls to kill those who want to kill us before they have the chance.

322 average_guy  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 5:45:58pm

The question I have is this: Does an endorsement from Pat Robertson make a candidate more credible or less? Examining Pat's business dealings might shed some light on the answer. If that doesn't work for you, try searching for some of his prophecy.

323 jamsler  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 5:53:23pm

Rudy's looking better to me all the time. But then again, my main priority in choosing a candidate is the fear he elicits in my enemies.

I'd personally like to see a Guliani/Thompson ticket. I don't understand the visceral reaction to Fred by some, but I think it'd probably make his chances for success pretty slim.

Gotta vote for the one best capable of defeating the hildebeast!

324 swamprat  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 5:57:27pm

re: #285 Occasional Reader

I also like this version of the Star-Spangled Banner.


I have never laughed and cried at the same time;before this very moment! Thank You!

325 Pim's Ghost  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 6:30:38pm

Rudy knows what to do. Just like after September 11th and the check from the Saudi Prince. Give it back and say, thanks but no thanks, pal.

Then again, Ann Coulter tried desperately to convince us all (in Slander) that Pat's really just a total moderate, so this should make some sense in that scheme of things. Of course, Ann never mentioned that Pat pulled his "moderate" statements right after sitting with his eyes closed for 5 minutes "feeling" who in his audience needed healing through prayer. Shadowbox that one, Ann.

326 Highrise  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 7:27:36pm

re: #322 average_guy


Actually,

No, Pat endorsing him does not change my opinion either way as a Christian. I really could careless on endorsements...I have a mind of my own and I frankly don't care what others think or endorse. Most Christians I know could careless about who Pat endorses either. People are making this a bigger deal that his endorsement needs to be I think. Christians are not like islamists that hang onto their cleric's every fatwa.

Whatever Pat has done or whatever is being spun that he has done, doesn't take away from the fact of him wanting to be rid of islam. He is spot on about islam.

327 R134A  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 7:30:56pm

and I was all for Fred, lokks like it's Rudy now, Pat endorses him and CAIR hates him, Rudy's the one for me.

328 Straitcircle  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 8:26:34pm

Why do we allow a theocratic movement to have a say in our society? Islam is not a religion it is a government book found in Koran.

329 soldiers.dad  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 8:41:03pm

At this critical point, in our history, it is very important that we support the concept of "the enemy of our enemy is our friend".

Charles, I don't care if they are KKK or Euro neo Nazis, as long as they are fighting the same enemies we are. That equals less risk for our military troops that have to clean up this mess before they can come home.
They may be bastards, but lets make sure that they are OUR bastards! Lets use every tool at our disposal to win this fight for the survival of democracy and the western civilization as we now know it, against these barbarian Islamo troglodytes. Anything short of using ALL the tools at our disposal, would just be a death wish.
We are now allied with the Sunnis and the Bathists, the same group we invaded Iraq to remove from power.
We backed Saddam as long as he was fighting against the Iranians expansionist's plans. We supported Stalin against the Nazis in WW2.
We supported the Mafia in our battles against Mussolini, and Castro too.
We now support Musharraf, a dictator, because he is a useful weapon/ tool in our war against Islamo thug gangsters.
Yes, these bastards remind me more of the gangsters fighting for turf in Chicago in the thirties than some legitimate political movement fighting for "freedom".
These Islamo thug gangsters need to meet the same fate that Bonnie and Clyde, Baby Faced nelson and Al capon received.
Stop the PC bullshit and Getter Done!

330 Steak  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 8:51:36pm

re: #22 reine.de.tout


So, CAIR doesn't like Rudy. They don't like ANY Americans, Christians, Westerners, or basically anyone who is not a raving lunatic of a Muslim. No big deal here. Hey, CAIR also does not like Kim Jong Il, since he is an atheist kaffir. You want to vote for Kim too? If the dislike from CAIR is all you need to gain your vote, Vote for Kim why don't you?

Problem is the other people who hate Rudy: Conservatives, Federalists, Patriots, people who don't kill babies, people who have read the constitution, people who don't repeatedly cheat on one's wife with the next wife. People with values? Rudy will spend like Bush, and strip our liberties like Hillary. You get yourself a Hybrid Turd!

Rudy is an authoritarian, plain and simple. Of all the Republican candidates, he is the closest thing to a mideast Mullah or Dictator. Yes, he is tough on the Jihadi's, that is important. There is more that we need in a leader. Rudy should just be a jihad cop. Some may get angry, but deep down(or maybe not so deep), you know its true. Rudy is Hillary with thinning hair and boxer shorts.


And to remembertonyc:
You cannot be that inept as to believe that Rudy can win NY state. He would be lucky to get 42%. If he had a chance, he would not have dropped out of the senate race.

331 New York's Michael  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 9:03:03pm

Everyone has litmus tests for their candidate. Besides abortion Rudy passes each one for me. He is correct on his stand regarding the war on terror, he is against socialized medicine, and cair hates him. What more could you want?

332 Highrise  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 9:13:13pm

re: #329 soldiers.dad


Charles, I don't care if they are KKK or Euro neo Nazis, as long as they are fighting the same enemies we are.

That is so short sighted it's scary. What happens when the nazi backing parties win and the gun turns on you? You can't say that won't happen. No one has a crystal ball but we DO have history books.

Have you taken a trip over to the American nazi party site and looked at the tripe they have said on the WHO WE ARE page?

I can't believe that anyone reading that is seriously thinking it is still ok to side with them or parties that are sympathetic to them!

You want to talk pc bs, it's pc bs plain and simple to sit there and say that we must join with a murderous group to go after another.

333 Highrise  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 9:16:41pm

american nazi party..WHO WE ARE:

Racial Greetings White Brothers and Sisters!
The American Nazi Party is a Political-Educational Association, dedicated to the 14 WORDS. We are committed to bringing American National Socialism, first created and embodied by our late Commander George Lincoln Rockwell, out of the past Phase One activities which at the time served their purpose well, and into the 21st Century.

Although National Socialism encompasses many various issues of concern to Aryan Americans, including a healthy environment, children's welfare, and freedom of belief without fear of System persecution...the two main tenants of National Socialism embodies the Struggle for Aryan Racial survival, and Social Justice for White Working Class people throughout our land.

As Aryan Revolutionaries, we recognize the fact that behaving in the manner of past activities, little progress has been achieved for our Cause. That is why we have taken a new direction. In the American Nazi Party, you will find no uniforms or ranks, we do not engage in publicly exposing our Comrades to undo publicity through pointless and dangerous Rallies or Marches. We instead stress Small Cell, and Individual Activism as the path for which to build our Movement, as securely and in a responsible manner as possible.

We are looking for Men and Women, who are willing to sacrifice for the Good of the Folk, not people who are looking for aggrandizement, titillation, or simply causing undirected and useless mayhem. This is not a game or a gang.

It is a very serious Struggle that we are involved in for the very existence of our White Nation of people. Those who are simply intent on pranks or causing trouble should perhaps look elsewhere for stimulation.

If you are interested in learning more about the American Nazi Party, we suggest writing to our National Headquarters and requesting an Info Pack.

Please enclose a $5 donation to cover costs. This information will be relayed to you as quickly as possible.

Each of us must decide just how far we will let the situation in America deteriorate, before we decide to take action to correct it. If you have had enough, and are willing to join the ranks of your ancestors who forged this land from a wilderness teeming with savages, and to keep it from returning to that state, we urge you to become involved. For your children's sake, if not for your own. For White WORKER Power!


Rocky J. Suhayda - Chairman, American Nazi Party


Download Adolf Hitler's masterpiece Mein Kampf HERE.


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I want NOTHING to do with these slime. Yeah funny how even this is carefully crafted it still reveals A LOT about these types and how they think..you can just imagine what crap you'll get from their sekrut HQ when you send off for information /rolls eyes.

Disgusting..pure disgusting. Settling for this is embarrassing to civilization. Don't kid yourself.

334 Orde  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 9:42:39pm

re: #332 Highrise

Have you taken a trip over to the American nazi party site and looked at the tripe they have said on the WHO WE ARE page?

"...or read some of their favorite books, like Imperium?"

335 Steak  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 10:16:53pm

re: #329 soldiers.dad

At this critical point, in our history, it is very important that we support the concept of "the enemy of our enemy is our friend".

Charles, I don't care if they are KKK or Euro neo Nazis, as long as they are fighting the same enemies we are. That equals less risk for our military troops that have to clean up this mess before they can come home.
We supported Stalin against the Nazis in WW2.

This is SO DAMN Retarded, I feel stupid for even being a member of the same blog as the writer.

First off, I do not align myself with these scum, no matter if they agree with me on 1 issue or not. I do not align myself with nazis nor Stalinists. IMHO, the current Jihadi battle has a DIRECT connection to WW2 and Stalin. Our big mistake of the war, was not finishing it. We only went as far as Berlin, when we should have continued on to Moscow. We let this monster take half of Europe, and condemn millions to misery.. We only did half the job in WW2. Part deux was the sacking of Stalin. Guess who is financing, arming, and giving technology to these little Jihadi fools? Iran would not be building nukes if not for Russia. Jihadis would not have cheap rifles and ammo if not for Red China. This is another proxy war. USSR and were made to be fools. They did not disappear. They are now weakening us with their little team of random, violent, impressionable, uneducated terrorists. They are doing it with our own dollars. The enemy of my enemy is not my friend. The person standing next to me, and watching my 6, is my friend. The person who wants me and other free people to carry on, is my friend. The nazi's, the Stalinists, are not my friends. They do not look out for free people any more than the Jihadi. They just go about it differently.

Unrelated to this particular post, but someone wrote: "He (Rudy) is correct on his stand regarding the war on terror, he is against socialized medicine, and cair hates him. What more could you want?"

I should expect someone who treats me as a citizen, and not a subject. Besides the other issues I have with Rudy (abortion not a big one with me, that fight will never be solved), his absolute distrust of American citizens to protect themselves, and his belief in the absolute power of the police/institutionalized authority scares the hell out of me. Rudy thinks I should not be able to protect my own family, in my own home. To me, that screams of dictator. I don't vote 1 issue at all, but 2nd amendment IS the biggest litmus test to find out if a politician considers you a citizen or a subject. On this issue, he falls even to the left of Hitlery. To me, that is a no go, and sadly, I would prefer Hillary to win, than for Rudy to kill off our constitution from the conservative side of the aisle. I would actively work against him. Millions more would join me. So go ahead, Give us Rudy. He might gain New Jersey (and lose Dixie?), but probably not. In the process, he turns our country into a 1 party system. Liberal or liberal. Why you want that?

We always hear about 'if we do this or that, the terrorists win!' Well, if we let Giuliani takes the nomination, the terrorists have won. We would give up our country, and our constitution, in order to kill Jihadis. There are other candidates who will do both. Protect our liberties, as well as take on the jihadis (and something Rudy will not do, take on the Socialists and Commies). I am also not a big supporter of amnesty for illegals like Rudy is. he is the illegal's best friend. They will vote Rudy, he will reward them.

336 AZDave  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 10:35:58pm

re: #68 JammieWearingFool

In other good election news, most men hate Hillary.

As with with affection for Rudy, my distaste (to put it mildly) for her goes way back.

They're just jealous because she has bigger balls that most (at least we know they're bigger than Bill's).

337 AZDave  Thu, Nov 8, 2007 10:42:25pm

re: #119 Just_A_Grunt

re: #114 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)


re: #106 Zardah

OT Here but I have to share the following sentence taken straight out of the office e-mail from a Supervisor:

"My sincere and abject apologies to all of those who were not notified that late Monday afternoon, the provider cancelled today’s class in “Time Management”."

nuff said


Sounds familiar. We just got the mass emailing reminding us we had Monday off for Veteran's day. 10 minutes later, we received the meeting schedule for Monday with an admonishment saying make sure you attend.

Veteran's Day is no longer a day off for the company I work for. They did away with it this year.

We vets receive a free lunch at my company. Anyone want to volunteer as a food tester?

338 kentuckyjoe  Fri, Nov 9, 2007 6:00:03am

I was having a hard time vacillating between Fred and Rudy. Thanks CAIR! Rudy it is!

339 Pim's Ghost  Fri, Nov 9, 2007 6:26:42am

re: #329 soldiers.dad

Dude, you can look up shrinks online.

340 reddevil  Fri, Nov 9, 2007 7:52:19am

Gee, why doesn't this bother me, and as far as I'm concerned, as long as Rudy behaves with regards to the 2nd amendment and all of them for that matter, I think he has the leadership skills a future president needs, who knows? any way the [bigoted word]s are scared for a change and that makes me happy

341 reine.de.tout  Fri, Nov 9, 2007 8:30:05am

re: #330 Steak

re: #22 reine.de.tout


So, CAIR doesn't like Rudy. They don't like ANY Americans, Christians, Westerners, or basically anyone who is not a raving lunatic of a Muslim. No big deal here. Hey, CAIR also does not like Kim Jong Il, since he is an atheist kaffir. You want to vote for Kim too? If the dislike from CAIR is all you need to gain your vote, Vote for Kim why don't you?

My comment 22 my attempt at a quick quip. For crying out loud, neither Rudy nor anyone else can have my vote, now can they, since the candidates haven't yet been selected.

The next comment summed up my feelings exactly:

#331 New York's Michael 11/08/07 9:03:03 pm reply quote report 0

Everyone has litmus tests for their candidate. Besides abortion Rudy passes each one for me. He is correct on his stand regarding the war on terror, he is against socialized medicine, and cair hates him. What more could you want?

342 cjnorris  Fri, Nov 9, 2007 2:56:29pm

re: #12 unclassifiable

re: #12 unclassifiable

Wh'eezing - A symptom of BDS


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