but . . . but . . . he won the Pulitzer . . .

Isn't the evidence in their files?

Hang Him High !

Any photos of the frogmarch?

Previously, the military has pointed to a range of suspicions that attempt to link him to insurgent activity.

There is no bias in the msm.

/msm

"The AP rejects all the allegations and contends it has been blocked by the military from mounting a wide-ranging defense for Hussein, who was part of the AP’s Pulitzer Prize-winning photo team in 2005."

Well cry me a river.

CNN "journalists" next?

We don't know what the charges are, but they're false.

re: #6 buzzsawmonkey

Dave Tomlin, associate general counsel for the AP, said the defense for Hussein is being forced to work “totally in the dark.”

Maybe if Bilal's pals didn't blow up the power grid so often, they wouldn't have to work totally in the dark.

LOL!

"NEW YORK - The U.S. military plans to seek a criminal case in an Iraqi court against an award-winning Associated Press photographer but is refusing to disclose what evidence or accusations would be presented.

An AP attorney on Monday strongly protested the decision, calling the U.S. military plans a “sham of due process.” The journalist, Bilal Hussein, has already been imprisoned without charges for more than 19 months."

Well, Well, Well. Aren't we a bit perturbed.

re: #5 Sharmuta

There is no bias against the bad guys in the msm.

There, fixed it for yah. :D

So to sum up the five pages of the AP story: "We don't know what's going on."

Soon after Hussein was taken into custody, the AP appealed to the U.S. military to either release him or bring the case to trial — saying there was no evidence to support his detention. However, Tomlin said that the military is now attempting to build a case based on "stale" evidence and testimony that has been discredited.

'Stale evidence'? So there's a statute of limitations on what evidence that can be presented at trial?

Tomlin said that the military is now attempting to build a case based on "stale" damning evidence and testimony that has been discredited.

There. Fixed that.

re: #13 grondy

So to sum up the five pages of the AP story: "We don't know what's going on."

Oh, I betcha they know what's going on, they just don't wanna admit what it is to themselves.

re: #14 Fenway_Nation

Soon after Hussein was taken into custody, the AP appealed to the U.S. military to either release him or bring the case to trial — saying there was no evidence to support his detention. However, Tomlin said that the military is now attempting to build a case based on "stale" evidence and testimony that has been discredited.

'Stale evidence'? So there's a statute of limitations on what evidence that can be presented at trial?

No ... plus, deciding whether testimony has been "discredited" is the function of the jury, not the press.

As if winning a Pulitzer means you can't fib.

Well I am shocked, SHOCKED that there is gambling going on in here!

NYTs should be next.

So - -
The AP (Assist Propaganda) machine is upset!

I say GOOD--

re: #17 nolocon

No ... plus, deciding whether testimony has been "discredited" is the function of the jury, not the press.

Heh! Good point! :D :D :D :D

It’s about time!

MM has got some interesting photo shot by Bilal Hussein. One wonders how many more terrorists stringer the AP has on speed dial.

Worse how much did Dave Tomlin and the rest of the AP pay Bila Hussein for his work?

Does this constitute funding of terrorism?

See: MM

Bread gets stale. Not evidence. this must a variation of the Clintonian "that is old news "ploy.

the new york slime got one for saying everything was nice in the ukraine when joe stalin was killing millions.

re: #11 ted

"NEW YORK - The U.S. military plans to seek a criminal case in an Iraqi court against an award-winning Associated Press photographer but is refusing to disclose what evidence or accusations would be presented.

An AP attorney on Monday strongly protested the decision, calling the U.S. military plans a “sham of due process.” The journalist, Bilal Hussein, has already been imprisoned without charges for more than 19 months."

Well, Well, Well. Aren't we a bit perturbed.

Of course they are. He was their best source of fake news™.

Here's some of Bilal's work:

pictures

I'd say something buy my writer is on strike.

/kidding

Ha and heh! Just what that accompolice to terror deserves.

activists

killers

“totally in the dark.”

I believe that was adnan hajj's excuse for faking all of those Beirut bombing photos

Great news! We're finally nailing these bastards one by one! Without the internet, we'd have never known.

re: #27 gman

Here's some of Bilal's work:

pictures

Mr. Homeboy Pants!

Dave Tomlin, associate general counsel for the AP, said the defense for Hussein is being forced to work “totally in the dark.”

Well...Hussein knows what he's done, so he isn't totally unaware of what might be coming...and yes, this *is* a war we're in:

The AP rejects all the allegations and contends it has been blocked by the military from mounting a wide-ranging defense for Hussein, who was part of the AP’s Pulitzer Prize-winning photo team in 2005.

heh

..yeah, we'll give you all kinds of information...riiiight...

MSM loves these stories . . . they confirm their cocktail party fantasies of anti-war Americans going "missing" by the thousands and being secretly held indefinitely at Gitmo by Haliburton ChimperialistBushNazis for torture by Rovian AbuGraib veterans.

Dear AP: Hear is a photo your prized specimen parasitic tapeworm, Bilal Hussein, just happened to have shot. The hostage appears to be "totally in the dark too".

AP: FOAD

[Link: www.darleenclick.com...]

(bad quoting...my bad)

Artists too frightened to tackle radical Islam

Brave enough for this

Perry’s highly decorated pots can sell for more than £50,000 and often feature sex, violence and childhood motifs. One work depicted a teddy bear being born from a penis as the Virgin Mary.

but scared to show this

“With other targets you’ve got a better idea of who they are but Islamism is very amorphous. You don’t know what the threshold is. Even what seems an innocuous image might trigger off a really violent reaction so I just play safe all the time.”

I have some stale hoagie rolls......hope I don't have to use them as evidence of some sort.

re: #33 MandyManners

re: #27 gman

Here's some of Bilal's work:

pictures

Mr. Homeboy Pants!

just chillin with da homies

re: #32 marsouin

Great news! We're finally nailing these bastards one by one! Without the internet, we'd have never known.

Charles has certainly done his part on others of the dirtbags.

The journalist, Bilal Hussein

Something about that name seems oddly familiar.

Bravo to Michelle Malkin who tirelessly pursued this story. I hope Iraq has tough penalties for scum like Hussein and what little solace can be obtained by the families of his victims when he is brought to justice.

re: #43 jamil hussein

oh shit! Are you his bro, homie? This is beginning to look like a conspiracy.

/////

Now the New York Times op ed page will have something to keep it busy for the foreseeable future

I'm pretty sure that a Prisoner of War can be held from the time of capture until the end of the war.

The 'journalist' shouldn't that read 'terrorist enabler'?

re: #33 MandyManners

re: #27 gman

Here's some of Bilal's work:

pictures

Mr. Homeboy Pants!

link is blocked.

re: #45 ted

Bravo to Michelle Malkin who tirelessly pursued this story. I hope Iraq has tough penalties for scum like Hussein and what little solace can be obtained by the families of his victims when he is brought to justice.

At the time this went to press,
Saddam Hussein was unavailable to comment on the effectiveness of the Iraqi justice system.

re: #52 Eowyn2

keep trying, server is just busy.

re: #55 song_and_dance_man

re: #54 gman

re: #52 Eowyn2

keep trying, server is just busy.

It took me a few tries before I got in.

Are you saying that my mouse is slow?

re: #53 Da_Beerfreak

re: #45 ted

Bravo to Michelle Malkin who tirelessly pursued this story. I hope Iraq has tough penalties for scum like Hussein and what little solace can be obtained by the families of his victims when he is brought to justice.

At the time this went to press,
Saddam Hussein was unavailable to comment on the effectiveness of the Iraqi justice system.

Le's hope Bilal meets his fellow Muhjadden Saddam in Paradise.

this will probably be the lead story for the next few days as the US is outsourcing its cases from the US to Iraq with far less sense of justice and still in hte midst of a losing civil war. It will be the cause for the 'chilling of civil rights as journalists, speakers and jive ass mother *****s will be in fear that Dick Cheney will drag them to Baghdad for a trial that has less legitimacy then those 'guilty verdicts' of Uncle Saddam'.

Watch and wait, once again the evil Bushitler is destroying civil rights.

Bunch of BS artists - this guy deserves to be prosecuted to the furthest extent of the law and the AP should be liable for the damage it caused to iraqis.

I can't imagine anyone having anything but the utmost confidence in the Iraqi justice system.

Jamil Hussein was the AP source whose reports of Baghdad Mosques being burned and Sunnis had been dragged from the Mosque and burned alive were never corroborated, came under a lot of scrutiny and were eventually discredited.

Yeah, but if you go the AP's website and read their Statement of Values and Principles there is this bit..

FABRICATIONS:
Nothing in our news report – words, photos, graphics, sound or video – may be fabricated. We don't use pseudonyms, composite characters or fictional names, ages, places or dates. We don't stage or re-enact events for the camera or microphone, and we don't use sound effects or substitute video or audio from one event to another.

I kind of figured Jamil Hussein who came on the scene after Bilal Hussein was arrested, was really just a play on words.. as in Jamil = "M in Ja il " HA.

Interesting. I look forward to learning details.

The guy's photographs show pretty clearly that he had unfettered access to terrorists. That can be had legitimately -- and used to expose those same terrorists -- but Hussein seems to gain that access again and again.

That said, I'm curious why no one has named the charges against him, and until I hear something factual I can't join in with the cries to "hang him." Habeas corpus is fundamental to liberty, so I do think the Iraqi authorities -- and liberty is what they're aiming for -- should grant it.

Aren't his 'hanging with the insurgents' photos evidence of terrorist support? Seems like he photographed the prosecutors case for them.

Sorry AP and Bilal. I think the reason he's being held is obvious. If I take a picture of someone murdering someone else when I had advanced knowledge the murder was going to take place and then allow that killer to get away...I'd be in prison too.

But I wouldn't do that. Bilal Hussein would.

re: #61 mich-again

.
I kind of figured Jamil Hussein who came on the scene after Bilal Hussein was arrested, was really just a play on words.. as in Jamil = "M in Ja il " HA.

Jamil

Jemazel

Hasenfeffer Incorporated

/sorry

The bulk of the photographs Hussein provided the AP were not about insurgent activity; he detailed both the aftermath of attacks and the daily lives of Iraqis in the war zone. There was no evidence that any images were coordinated with the insurgents or showed the instant of an attack.

The photos over at Michelle Malkin suggest this is not a true statement.

re: #65 nolocon

Indeed- click Charles' "search" link and you'll see this guy was captured with an al-qaeda leader, not "innocent Iraqis".

This story is no surprise.

And OT: Check out this poweful little video doing the rounds on youtube: Message from Israel to world on Iran

the anti-Zionist trolls have already pounced on it.

Seems the AP is in a dander to control the damage. The evidence is stale is because ol Balil has been put on ice for a couple years. How many Iraqis and Americans are alive because of that?

We might find out when Balil is put on trial. Lets see if contacts with terrorists is proven and he was never an officially accredited reporter for AP, guess what even with a Pulitzer, he would still be classised as a spy under the Geneva Conventions which means summary execution.

AK-47 ackbar!

re: #68 Anna

Lets see if contacts with terrorists is proven and he was never an officially accredited reporter for AP, guess what even with a Pulitzer, he would still be classised as a spy under the Geneva Conventions which means summary execution.

That's a mighty confident assertion. Can you cite such a case? Or such a law?

re: #27 gman

Here's some of Bilal's work:

pictures

The U.S. military has known about this POS since 2005? He should have been feeding worms a long time ago.

re: #52 Eowyn2

re: #33 MandyManners

re: #27 gman

Here's some of Bilal's work:
pictures

Mr. Homeboy Pants!

link is blocked.

One of the terrorists is wearing a pair of homeboy pants.

“sham of due process.”

Mr Tomlin needs to refer to the Geneva convention for his "due process". If Mr Hussein was aiding the enemy he is in deep doo-doo. He's lucky he's alive.

re: #72 MandyManners
WTF are 'homeboy pants'? Is it like my teenage boys? Pants hanging off their asses, boxers showing, no belt?

re: #62 Cognito

Interesting. I look forward to learning details.

The guy's photographs show pretty clearly that he had unfettered access to terrorists. That can be had legitimately -- and used to expose those same terrorists -- but Hussein seems to gain that access again and again.

That said, I'm curious why no one has named the charges against him, and until I hear something factual I can't join in with the cries to "hang him." Habeas corpus is fundamental to liberty, so I do think the Iraqi authorities -- and liberty is what they're aiming for -- should grant it.

I haven't seen the other two writeups Charles linked at the top of the page, but Michelle Malkin has been on this from the beginning. Follow the link and read, there's a lot there.

re: #74 pingjockey

Sweat pants.

We must give the accused a fair trial.
Then we can hang him.

re: #58 song_and_dance_man

re: #56 Eowyn2

re: #55 song_and_dance_man

re: #54 gman

re: #52 Eowyn2keep trying, server is just busy.

It took me a few tries before I got in.

Are you saying that my mouse is slow?

Could be the mouse pad

I havent finished decorating. The mouse wants an oak wardrobe and I think cedar would be better.

I got in.
I remember these photos. Sadly there are so many terrible photos that I have to look back to see which photographer/stringer is which.

re: #76 MandyManners

re: #74 pingjockey

Sweat pants.

baggy sweatpants made with a spandex-like material, not that I am chillin with them.

re: #71 Racer X

re: #27 gman

Here's some of Bilal's work:

pictures

The U.S. military has known about this POS since 2005? He should have been feeding worms a long time ago.

He's been locked up for awhile now. The AP has been going APE about it for awhile and nobody will pay any attention to them

OT: Video: Mitt’s Mormonism is fair game, says Hitchens

His point about institutional racism is well taken (and timely given this morning’s WaPo article on Mormonism going global) but nothing Mitt can’t deflect with a statement about believers sometimes disagreeing with their church’s policies and working from within for change. When all else fails, remind Catholics that women still can’t be ordained as priests and drop “let he who is without sin...” on them and you’re good to go.

Another interesting question that arises in the interview; "Are Mormons Christians?"
I'll say "no" just because they added a new book to the Bible. Just like Christians aren't considered Jews once they added the New Testament.
What do "regular" Christian think?

Perhaps he's merely a stupendously intuitive and resourceful journalist who, but sheer luck and skill, accidently stumbled upon one terrorist attack after another armed only with his camera and journalist zeal.

re: #77 Da_Beerfreak

We must give the accused a fair trial.
Then we can hang him.

Hear hear.

I'm all for it, as long as we do it in that order.

The issue of Bilal Hussein as well as the Guantanamo detainees reminds me of the board game Stratego! If you recall the game, there were Generals, Lieutenants, privates, and also spies. There is a long line of jurisprudence relating to the proper treatment of un-uniformed combatants (a.k.a. spies) who were captured in battle: They were interrogated and then summarily shot. We need to shy away from calling these terrorists combatants, because they are clearly spies.

re: #70 Cognito

Under the Geneva Conventions:
Article 29 '. -- A person can only be considered a spy when, acting clandestinely or on false pretences, he obtains or endeavours to obtain information in the zone of operations of a belligerent with the intention of communicating it to the hostile party.

Under Article 5 of the Convention, the spy may nevertheless be deprived temporarily of certain rights, particularly the right of communication.

Article 30 '. -- A spy taken in the act shall not be punished without previous trial."

The Convention contains several provisions in this respect which extend the principle and make it precise. Thus Article 3 prohibits "the passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without previous judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court, affording all the judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples".

That is what the AP and Balil are operating under or facing.

re: #67 touchdown

This story is no surprise.

And OT: Check out this poweful little video doing the rounds on youtube: Message from Israel to world on Iran

the anti-Zionist trolls have already pounced on it.

Excellent! Thank you for sharing, I've sent it along to friends and family already.

re: #80 Eowyn2

re: #71 Racer X

re: #27 gman

Here's some of Bilal's work:pictures

The U.S. military has known about this POS since 2005? He should have been feeding worms a long time ago.

He's been locked up for awhile now. The AP has been going APE about it for awhile and nobody will pay any attention to them

There's a whole shitload of pictures implicating the guy, so the military has plenty of what they need to prosecute. The AP is using the old "high level people doing things in dark rooms behind heavy curtains" argument which a lot of the conspiracy wackos try to fall back on conveniently. But, alas AP photogs have shown their true colors too many times.

re: #82 buzzsawmonkey

re: #74 pingjockey

Pants hanging off their asses, boxers showing, no belt?

I have never understood how those can stay in place without a permanent erection to impede further slippage.

*snort*

re: #70 Cognito

re: #68 Anna

Lets see if contacts with terrorists is proven and he was never an officially accredited reporter for AP, guess what even with a Pulitzer, he would still be classised as a spy under the Geneva Conventions which means summary execution.

That's a mighty confident assertion. Can you cite such a case? Or such a law?

Try here [Link: www.freerepublic.com...]

re: #86 Anna

A person can only be considered a spy when, acting clandestinely or on false pretences, he obtains or endeavours to obtain information in the zone of operations of a belligerent with the intention of communicating it to the hostile party.

I guess I'm not entirely clear how Hussein was doing what you've described here... This addresses passing information (of America's) to the belligerent parties (terrorists and insurgents). Is he accused of doing that? Where?

AP Propaganda Passed off as Article:

Chavez, Ahmadinejad to work against US

By NASSER KARIMI, Associated Press Writer
28 minutes ago

TEHRAN, Iran - The presidents of Venezuela and Iran boasted Monday that they will defeat U.S. imperialism together, saying the fall of the dollar is a prelude to the end of Washington's global dominance.

Hugo Chavez's visit to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad in Tehran followed a failed weekend attempt by the firebrand duo to push the Organization of Petroleum Exporting States away from trading in the slumping greenback.
Their proposal at an OPEC summit was overruled by other cartel members led by Saudi Arabia, a strong U.S. ally. But the cartel agreed to have OPEC finance ministers discuss the idea, and the two allies' move showed their potential for stirring up problems for the U.S.The alliance between Chavez and Ahmadinejad has blossomed with several exchanged visits — Monday's was Chavez's fourth time in Tehran in two years — a string of technical agreements and a torrent of rhetoric presenting their two countries as an example of how smaller nations can stand up to the superpower.
"Here are two brother countries, united like a single fist," Chavez said upon his arrival in Tehran, according to Venezuela's state-run Bolivarian News Agency.

"God willing, with the fall of the dollar, the deviant U.S. imperialism will fall as soon as possible, too," Chavez said after a two-hour closed meeting with Ahmadinejad, the Iranian state news agency IRNA reported.

As the dollar weakens, oil prices have soared toward $100 a barrel. Chavez said over the weekend at the OPEC meeting in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, that prices would more than double to $200 if the U.S. attacked Iran or Venezuela.

"The U.S. empire is coming down," Chavez told Venezuelan TV, calling the European Union's euro a better option and saying Latin American nations were also considering a common currency.

The leftist Venezuelan is a fierce critic of President Bush, and Iran's Islamic government is in a bitter standoff with Washington over Tehran's nuclear program. The U.S. accuses Iran of seeking to develop nuclear weapons, a claim Tehran denies, and Iran has been hit with two rounds of U.N. sanctions for refusing to suspend uranium enrichment.

Ahmadinejad backed his "dear brother" Chavez in their joint fight with the Bush administration...

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

re: #91 Cognito

re: #86 Anna

A person can only be considered a spy when, acting clandestinely or on false pretences, he obtains or endeavours to obtain information in the zone of operations of a belligerent with the intention of communicating it to the hostile party.

I guess I'm not entirely clear how Hussein was doing what you've described here... This addresses passing information (of America's) to the belligerent parties (terrorists and insurgents). Is he accused of doing that? Where?

Sorry, should have read "hostile parties."

Yeeeeeeee Haaaaaaa !

It seems the anti-jihad blogs are having a greater impact than we imagine in the WOT

Jawa Report credited for helping crack Bilal Hussein case

UPDATE: Holy crap, The Jawa Report credited with Bilal Hussein prosecution?!?!

A reader, who wishes to remain anonymous, informs me that The Jawa Report had something to do with Bilal Hussein's prosecution. Apparently Bilal Hussein had been picked up in a raid in which he wasn't the target.

He had been sitting in Abu Ghraib for a month, and nobody realized who he was. The reader was in Abu Ghraib as an investigator working on an unrelated case when he saw Bilal Hussein and recognized him from the extensive coverage we had on The Jawa Report.

He reported it up the chain of command, and within days Bilal Hussein was transferred to a different facility and eventually a criminal investigation opened on him. He ends the e-mail with:

THANKS to you guys...you REALLY ARE making an impact on the [the war on terror] you can claim credit
Hell, I hope so! I've communicated with the source before, and he seems legit to me.

The Jawa Report, sticking it to al Qaeda propagandists from the comfort of our living rooms. Any one wish to complain about the "chickenhawk" bloggers now?

It's stories like these that make it all worth it!

re: #91 Cognito

Well Cognito. I guess we have different thoughts on what constitutes a spy or agent. Lets let the court system judge Balil Hussein and all of his activities in accordance with the Geneva Conventions.

re: #93 Cognito

Not a problem Cognito. Legalese is not my native language either. :)

re: #91 Cognito

Let me make it super clear: If a US military patrol comes across an insurgent group firing rocket propelled grenades at other US forces, and a "photographer" is standing amongst them, he should have his head blown off. Just because his photos are posted on AP after the fact does not absolve him of responsibility.

Here's Jawa's full archive on Bilal:
Bilal Archive

where did everyone go?

yeah who turned out the friggin lights?

re: #102 MandyManners

where did everyone go?

They were frightened by the absolute moral authority of my comments

re: #100 Gordon Marock

re: #91 Cognito

Let me make it super clear: If a US military patrol comes across an insurgent group firing rocket propelled grenades at other US forces, and a "photographer" is standing amongst them, he should have his head blown off. Just because his photos are posted on AP after the fact does not absolve him of responsibility.

the same should go for the jew hating propogandists operating in the west bank and gaza

The pictures were faked, but accurate, and he is guilty, but innocent by reason of award-winning....

re: #102 MandyManners

where did everyone go?

Sorry- I was dumpster diving and researching a liar.

My brother served in Ramadi, and led a 4-man fire team into combat against these scum. They did not all return home.

Let him rot in jail, until it's his turn to rot in hell.

Serbia: Muslim prosecutor arrested for using sex-slaves

Serbia's chief prosecutor has arrested regional vice prosecutor in the Muslim dominated region of Novi Pazar for misuse of office.

The charge alleges that Senad Palamara is implicated in a human trafficking ring in Novi Pazar and was the "user" of sexual services of the trafficked women that were available in a JetSet night club in the Serbian city of Sombor.

The indictment says that during period from December 2005 to July 2007 Palamara repeatedly had sex with a 25 year old Marija K who was forced into prostitution by a trafficking ring of 6 Muslim men from Novi Pazar who have been arrested.

#92 ted:

Thanks for the link!

I can't help thinking that AP and their chums Mr Chavez and Mr Dinner Jacket are getting a little too excited about the relatively weak value of the dollar. After all, if memory serves, I seem to recall it has declined a few times before, and the US 'empire' doesn't seem to have come crashing down yet.

It must be wonderful to be an Islamist or an MSM reporter. Life just keeps throwing up so many opportunities to get all worked up and excited about nothing in particular, there's probably never a dull moment. Sounds great!

We in the civilized West simply don't understand Muslims.

For example, you read, that:

Despite the objection of coalition members Shas and Israel Beiteinu, the cabinet approved on Monday a list of 441 Palestinian prisoners to be released ahead of the Annapolis conference.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

What would be a normal reaction to this Israeli stupi....magnanimity?

One would think a "thank you" might be in order.

Here is a Muslim thank you: It came immediately.

Israeli killed in shooting attack near Karnei Shomron

A young Israeli man was killed late Monday evening in a shooting attack in the West Bank (home of the good terrorists).

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

In fact, he served in Ramadi right about the time Mr. Hussein was taking pictures. It's likley that I am looking at pics of a member of my family getting shot at by the ROP.

Fuck this guy and his ilk. Fuck the AP.

/sorry for language.. this gets me.

More, faster please.

Maybe the tide is turning. Apparently enterprising and good-humored people are getting a lot of mileage out of the Juan Carlos - Hugo Chavez put-down. I had a link to some hilarious music videos. but seem to have lost it for a while..

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Security forces arrest Al-Qaeda leader in Algiers

The head of the Algiers section of the so-called Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (formerly known as GSPC) has been arrested by security forces. He has been arrested with two of his fellows in a shelter where 800 kg of explosives were found.

Well-informed security sources said Bouderbala Fateh alias Abdelfatah Abou Bassir was arrested with two other men last weeks in a place near Algiers. More than 800 kg of explosives and three bombs ready to go off were seized.

Abou Bassir and his group are said have admitted that they were preparing those explosives to use them in attacks during the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan which in Algeria this year began on Sept 13

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Ancient Greek Potty Training
Just poop.

re: #118 Killgore Trout

Ancient Greek Potty Training
Just poop.

Smart.

Sunset on the San Gabriel Mountains. Look before the hour.This is the weather Charles gets, BTW.

re: #102 MandyManners

I saw this on Fox and had to post it, I just had to! The Kid would have been great in this..OT, but worth it. Honest!

He had his fun glorifying terrorists. Now, it's time to face the consequences, and I doubt Iraq gives a rip about AP's thoughts on the matter.

re: #118 Killgore Trout

better hit the bullseye or you're screwed

Indonesia: Islamic mob attacks suspected 'Christian church'

Jakarta, 19 Nov. (AKI) - About 30 self-appointed Islamic vigilantes are alleged to have raided a house suspected to be a Christian place of worship in Citeureup Village of Bandung in the Indonesian province of West Java, on Monday.

The owner of the house, Ranto Gunawan Simamora, told reporters that dozens of people raided the house and went directly to the living room which is normally used for Christian gatherings and worship.

No-one was injured in the raid and the police have sealed off the house while they carry out further investigation.

The attack is the latest aimed against so-called illegal places of worship in Java and beyond.

re: #96 Anna

re: #91 Cognito

Well Cognito. I guess we have different thoughts on what constitutes a spy or agent. Lets let the court system judge Balil Hussein and all of his activities in accordance with the Geneva Conventions.

No, I'm sure we have similar views on what counts as spying: Passing on information to the enemy, per the article you cited. But to my knowledge Hussein isn't accused of anything like that. If he is, by all means please direct me toward the accusation...

I think Hussein is very likely a scumbag and may have cut some sort of illicity deal with terrorists, and that the Iraqi authorities should mete out the appropriate punishment. But I also think we have to stick to the truth.

re: #100 Gordon Marock

re: #91 Cognito

Let me make it super clear: If a US military patrol comes across an insurgent group firing rocket propelled grenades at other US forces, and a "photographer" is standing amongst them, he should have his head blown off. Just because his photos are posted on AP after the fact does not absolve him of responsibility.

Um, yeah. I'd agree with that. Anybody hanging out with terrorists should know that bombs aren't picky.

Good.

All I have to say.

Also
'Bout time.

re: #123 gman

Looks like it would be easy to take to the local aqueduct and give it a scrub.

GAZE.

re: #118 Killgore Trout

Yeah, well everything's up to date in NYC!

(play the video!)

re: #121 NY Nana

re: #102 MandyManners

I saw this on Fox and had to post it, I just had to! The Kid would have been great in this..OT, but worth it. Honest!

Dial up's too slow.

Man marries daughter, claims divine sanction

JALPAIGURI: A 36-year-old man married his teenage daughter and made her pregnant, justifying his perverse act by claiming he had divine sanction for his incestuous lust. What's even more galling is that his wife was the prime witness in the nikah of her daughter to her husband.

re: #121 NY Nana

re: #102 MandyManners

I saw this on Fox and had to post it, I just had to! The Kid would have been great in this..OT, but worth it. Honest!

That's a HuffPoo site that made that, btw. Their answer to The Half Hour News Hour.

re: #117 stevieray

Well-informed security sources said Bouderbala Fateh alias Abdelfatah Abou Bassir was arrested with two other men last weeks in a place near Algiers. More than 800 kg of explosives and three bombs ready to go off were seized.

Abou Bassir and his group are said have admitted that they were preparing those explosives to use them in attacks during the Muslim fasting month of Ramadan which in Algeria this year began on Sept 13

Hmm. Bouderbala was going to attack fellow Muslims during the month of fasting. I still can't get how they rationalize this kind of thing. Eating during Ramadan=evil and wrong, leading to lashes and possible death; blowing people up during Ramadan=good, leading to glory and honor to their god.

I suppose it's easy to rationalize poorly when you're not rational. Or reasonable. Or logical.

re: #133 stevieray

More on the story.

Daughter's pregnancy signs raised suspicion

snip

The sordid drama of what happened, however, unfolded on Monday when Ali was produced in court. When Ali, a daily labourer who has three daughters and two sons moved to marry his eldest girl child, his wife naturally was aghast and protested madly. To placate Sakina, he told her he was only carrying out Allah's instructions and the family would be rewarded. The poor, illiterate woman saw no reason to doubt her husband's heinous act.

I agree that Hussein was a working journalist in a war zone. AP declines to admit that he was possibly working for the enemy, of course.

re: #131 NY Nana

I thought public toilets in big cities were permanently gone. We'll see how well this revival goes.

re: #132 MandyManners

Dial up's too slow.

Damn. Save it for when you are back on your 'puter. Good luck!

re: #135 gop_patriot

Allah is a hungry beast. He needs fresh blood to sate his savage lust.

Patriotism: Not Quite Dead in the Public Schools
Click the black box for video. The video is small, but the audio is the compelling part.

re: #139 NY Nana

Could you drop me a line through my nic? It goes to my yahoo account.

USAID Inadvertently Funneled American Tax Dollars to Terror Related Groups

In a report entitled "Audit of the Adequacy of USAID's Antiterrorism Vetting Procedures," dated November 6 and obtained by Fox News, U.S. Agency for International Development Inspector General Donald A. Gambatesa concluded USAID's "policies, procedures, and controls are not adequate to reasonably ensure against providing assistance to terrorists."

Although the federal government has long sought to institute tighter controls on the disbursement of foreign aid, Gambatesa found USAID's "policies or procedures do not require the vetting of potential or current USAID partners."

The audit was triggered this spring, after gun battles at Islamic University in Gaza pitted Fatah forces, loyal to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, against their rival, Hamas, which controls the university and has been designated a terrorist group by the United States. After the shooting stopped, Fatah displayed large caches of weapons recovered from inside the university, and the Washington Times reported the school had received more than $140,000 in USAID funding.

"In the basement of Gaza Islamic University, a U.S.-funded institution," said Rep. Mark Kirk, R-Ill., who sits on the House Appropriations Subcommittee on State, Foreign Operations and requested the audit, "Palestinian police found several Iranian agents and an Iranian general teaching the students in the U.S.-funded chemistry lab how to make suicide bombs."

/Foggy Bottom strikes again

re: #82 buzzsawmonkey
They don't! Told them they looked like they had a load in their pants!

He was embedded with the wrong crowd. Pity, that.

Pity should be cruel!

re: #138 Killgore Trout

They did it last year, also, and people would love having it all year long.

Looks like the UK is also going down the tank, too.

I remember being right in Oxford St., at the corner of Selfridges, where a woman in a burka changed her baby by placing it across an open receptacle, changing it, etc., and throwing the used one in.

My friend and I just shook our heads. Sad.

Aw, couldn't have happened to a nicer collaborator. btw, what are the due process procedures in Iraq? Somehow I'm pretty sure they aren't the same as those in the United States.

Europe continues goose-stepping towards 1932.....

Anti-fascist Rioting follows Spanish teen murder

Nov. 18 - Anti-fascist demonstrators clash with Spanish police in Barcelona while far-right extremists gather in Madrid to remember Franco

The anti-Nazi rally was organised to protest against the murder last week of a 16-year-old boy in a clash between fascists and anti-fascists in Madrid. Several people were arrested after the rally descended into violence between demonstrators and police. Tensions between Spanish leftists and far-right extremists have risen sharply in the run up to the 32nd anniversary of the death of Spanish dictator, General Franco, who died on November 20th, 1975.

re: #143 Killian Bundy

Who is running the asylum?

re: #128 Killgore Trout

re: #123 gman

Looks like it would be easy to take to the local aqueduct and give it a scrub.

yeah, it has the convenient carrying handle.

OT/
I was just looking up information on the word haram and found this page, what is definition of haram &halal? , which informs its readers-

These things included things that are haraam in and of themselves, which they made into acts of worship, such as shirk (associating others in worship with Allaah) and things which are obscene, such as performing Tawaaf around the Ka’bah naked, etc.

- I just thought this was funny.

If they don't like Due Process in the United States, they're really gonna love it in Iraq.

/sarc

re: #141 bikermailman

Patriotism: Not Quite Dead in the Public Schools
Click the black box for video. The video is small, but the audio is the compelling part.

That was truly beautiful. Brought tears to my eyes.

Is Condi being left at the conference?

PA sets pre-conditions for Annapolis

In a surprise move, the Palestinian Authority on Monday set pre-conditions for participating in the US-sponsored peace conference in Annapolis, Maryland.

PA Information Minister Riad Malki told reporters after the meeting that Israel must first promise to fulfill the following pre-conditions before the Annapolis conference: end settlement construction and natural growth of settlers, dismantle settlement outposts, remove IDF checkpoints and reopen all closed PLO institutions in east Jerusalem.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

Very reasonable of the barbarians. They will come to a conference if Israel pre-agrees to surrender.

Maybe if we gave them more aid.

re: #152 song_and_dance_man

re: #141 bikermailman

Patriotism: Not Quite Dead in the Public Schools
Click the black box for video. The video is small, but the audio is the compelling part.

I find it amazing that was filmed in a public school. Thanks for posting that.

I was quite stunned myself...

Al-Timimi and NSA Wiretapping: What The Government Is Not Telling Us

In 2006, federal prosecutors in Alexandria, Virginia, where al-Timimi was convicted, consented to the decision by the Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit in Richmond, Virginia, to send the case back to U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema for further hearings. The district court may determine whether NSA-gathered evidence was used against al-Timimi without the court having been told. She also could press the government to reveal whether it withheld evidence gathered by the NSA that could have helped al-Timimi’s defense.

... snip...

Al-Haramain’s Al-Buthe had published al-Timimi’s views on the religious significance of the space shuttle crash that suggested it was punishment of the United States.

...snip...

NSA intercepts indeed may exist showing that this microbiologist religiously trained in Saudi Arabia by Bin Laden’s sheik worked with that same sheik to draft and hand-deliver a letter to all members of Congress about the dire consequences of invading Iraq. The letter was delivered on the first anniversary of the mailed anthrax to US Senator Leahy and Daschle. Perhaps the government’s aggressive prosecution of Ali Al-Timimi is best understood as an omen of the FBI’s successful resolution of Amerithrax.

I just knew Cognito would be here on this thread. We haven't seen much of you lately, what have you been up to?

What I am curious about is how AP really feels about this... do they feel used like a $2.00 whore behind the scenes?

re: #142 MandyManners

Please check your Spam!

re: #157 Opinionated

Can you really blame them for making pre-conditions?
(1) The U.S. is notorious for making pre-conditions when it offers 'negotiations."
(2) They know that the U.S. and Israel want another Palestinian Arab state a.s.a.p. more than the Phakestinians do.

re: #158 bikermailman

As an atheist I feel compelled to sue.
/

No raisins for you.....
Raw video of, Afghan army bus bomber foiled

Those cops has balls.

re: #160 Thanos

I just knew Cognito would be here on this thread. We haven't seen much of you lately, what have you been up to?

What I am curious about is how AP really feels about this... do they feel used like a $2.00 whore behind the scenes?

They ARE $2.00 whores...Gramscian Whores of the Caliphate.

re: #161 NY Nana

Will do.

Reminds me of a story I heard where a french journalist and her team were invited by a group of terrorists to accompany them for an afternoon, as journalists. The insurgents were carrying shoulder-launched SAM's, and drove out to near Baghdad airport. The french team set up their equipment, started filming as the terrorists unloaded their weapons.

And yet, FOR SOME REASON, the journalists were shocked, SHOCKED, when the terrorists ACTUALLY FIRED A MISSILE AT AN AIRCRAFT. The leader, some fucking haggard french bint, claims on interview afterwards that they never expected the "freedom fighters" to actually do anything, cause, y'know, it'd never occur to me to think terrorists, in a country wracked by terrorism, with missile launchers, near an airport, might actually be intending to, I dunno, SHOOT DOWN AN AEROPLANE.

And of course, she doesn't see herself or her team, or the terrorists of fucking course, as having done anything wrong.

I hate journalists. I really really do.

Apologies for profanity.

Afghan Mullahs Bug Out Over Shakira

Threatening suicide bombings.

Still, we're winning the hearts and minds.

"Her clothes were very tight," said Sharif, a 41-year-old doorman who watched the concert. "But I had no problem with it."

re: #168 song_and_dance_man

It's a capital crime. Atheist Ackbar!

re: #156 buzzsawmonkey

In a word? Oy, oy and oy! And they didn't have Chavez to blame.

I can't even imagine....uh, whoops: I lived in Mexico City as an exchange student, with a middle class family, in 1954, when the middle class was emerging. The homes were lovely, and the plumbing was fine, but in other areas of Mexico City? It was just awful. Walking to school we used to cover our noses with hankies, as we passed through a really bad area, as we took a short cut.

Memories...oy!

re: #140 stevieray

re: #135 gop_patriot

Allah is a hungry beast. He needs fresh blood to sate his savage lust.

I wonder if the moon god was bloodthirsty? Or did mohammed add that attribute after 'talking to the angel'?

re: #158 bikermailman

This used to be a school text in the New York Schools! (Manual of Patriotism - 1904)

OT, but if they get their way, Bilal Hussein will no longer need to worry about collaboration with terrorists...

UN seeks to wrest control of the internet from US government

No no no. That's OUR baby! You can't have it!

Frenchman spit-roasts 550kg camel

A French chef hopes to claim the "world's largest barbecue" title after expending 15 hours, three tons of wood, and 15 litres of cooking oil to spit-roast a 550kg camel.

Christian Falco, 63, from Perpignan, cooked up the cameline feast at a seaside town south of Rabat. He said he was "recreating a centuries-old tradition begun when a Moroccan king offered a roast camel to his people".

I'm not sure if I've ever eaten camel before.

Blog Reaction Roundup

More of the MSM and Terrorists.

re: #167 Elydo

What's a "bint"?

re: #178 Killgore Trout

Frenchman spit-roasts 550kg camel

A French chef hopes to claim the "world's largest barbecue" title after expending 15 hours, three tons of wood, and 15 litres of cooking oil to spit-roast a 550kg camel.

Christian Falco, 63, from Perpignan, cooked up the cameline feast at a seaside town south of Rabat. He said he was "recreating a centuries-old tradition begun when a Moroccan king offered a roast camel to his people".

I'm not sure if I've ever eaten camel before.

I wonder if it tastes like chicken.

re: #164 Killgore Trout

No raisins for you.....
Raw video of, Afghan army bus bomber foiled

Those cops has balls.

That's pretty cool, you're right- those guys are brave!

One thing that always strikes me about these videos, is how dull everything is over there. All the same color. Sand yellow. I walk into my neighborhood and it's bright and colorful... I am so grateful that I was born here in the USA.

terrorists might target the guy and blame it on the prosecutors.

re: #146 NY Nana

Now that is terrible. Nationalised Healthcare and Welfare have many hidden costs. Our county has few public toilets, but every store of a certain size, every mall or multi-store shopping complex, and every restaurant or bar is required by law to have them

re: #175 Ojoe

Which part of that manual discusses:

(1) Flag burning.
(2) Uneducated dissent for the sake of dissent.
(3) spitting on soldiers returning from battle.
(4) Working against the Government.
(5) Attacking soldiers.
(6) Badmouthing your country on foreign soil.
(7) Attempting to cut all funding for soldiers at war.
(8) Calling your own Country the worst in the world.
(9) Dismantling the borders of the United States.
(10) Siding emotionally with the enemy.

/you know, the things I'm told today are "Patriotic".

re: #170 song_and_dance_man

re: #169 JammieWearingFool

I just noticed you were quoted in the Washington Times a couple days ago. Nice

Thanks.

Somebody there likes me.

:D

re: #157 Opinionated

Condi can get stuffed.

re: #181 MandyManners

more or less floozy

re: #187 WrathofG-d

none of it.

I'm out of here

re: #181 MandyManners

Interestingly enough, it's an arabic word meaning daughter, but in Britain it's a derogatory appellation for a woman, ranging in intensity from very mildly insulting to being an alternative for just calling them a bitch. It's contextual usage makes it useful for giving stronger insults in an understated way, which can sometimes increase the offense given.

re: #172 NY Nana

In a word? Oy, oy and oy! And they didn't have Chavez to blame.

HAHAHAHAHA! I hadn't seen that video before, it's hilarious!

re: #192 buzzsawmonkey

re: #181 MandyManners

What's a "bint"?

re: #190 Ojoe

more or less floozy

It actually is the word for "daughter" in Arabic, as in "Aisha bint Achmed," or "Aisha daughter of Achmed"--similar to "bat" ("daughter") in Hebrew.

In English, yes, it has a bimbo connotation.

And all this time I thought a "BINT" was a baseball term ,, a "BUNT" that didn't make it out of the batters box !

re: #184 fuseman

terrorists might target the guy and blame it on the prosecutors.

And if they did, I'd say- "Boo Freakin Hoo"- (kudos to Michelle Malkin).

Some odd hair ray effect?

Blondes mess up men's minds

WHEN men meet fair-haired women, they really do have a "blonde moment". Scientists have found that their mental performance drops, apparently because they believe they are dealing with someone less intelligent.

Researchers discovered what might be called the "bimbo delusion" by studying men's ability to complete general knowledge tests after exposure to different women.

The academics found that men's scores fell after they were shown pictures of blondes.

Further analysis convinced the team that rather than simply being distracted by the flaxen hair, those who performed poorly had been unconsciously driven by social stereotypes to "think blonde".

Actually bint simply means "girl" in Arabic; not daughter, and nothing worse.

re: #185 pat

Just remember who the Mayor is, and incredibly, it is his second term...

The restautants, stores, supermarkets and malls in and around London do have many loos...and where I stay, in Bromley, there are a number of them in public areas.

It is just inconvenient to have to go into a shop...but I imagine that in any city, keeping public loos clean would be a problem.

The ones in NYC, in the subway, etc., are supposed to be gross.

I shall not resist.

Swedish women fight for topless rights

Thanks, ya'll. I learn something good every day here at LGF.

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.
*spit*

re: #173 gop_patriot

re: #140 stevieray

re: #135 gop_patriot

Allah is a hungry beast. He needs fresh blood to sate his savage lust.

I wonder if the moon god was bloodthirsty? Or did mohammed add that attribute after 'talking to the angel'?

I suspect Allah thought what Mohammed thought, hated what Mohammed hated, and desired what Mohammed desired. Only a remarkable coincidence, I am sure.

re: #200 JammieWearingFool

I shall not resist.

Swedish women fight for topless rights

"We want our breasts to be as normal and desexualised as men's, so that we too can pull off our shirts at football matches," said a spokeswoman for the group

Yeah. That's gonna happen.
/

re: #203 song_and_dance_man

re: #200 JammieWearingFool

"If women are forced to wear a top, shouldn't men also have to?" said one of the women, 22-year-old Ragnhild Karlsson.

Oh fer crying out loud, who wants to see men wearing bikinis?

Got to love the conventional reasoning though. ie: ignore the facts, ignore the obvious differences, but stick to the b.s. we've had drilled into our heads "there is no difference between men & women...everything must be 'equal'."
I guess we should start allowing men to use woman's bathrooms, changing rooms, etc.

re: #200 JammieWearingFool

I shall not resist.

Swedish women fight for topless rights

Just Breasts

re: #203 song_and_dance_man

re: #200 JammieWearingFool

"If women are forced to wear a top, shouldn't men also have to?" said one of the women, 22-year-old Ragnhild Karlsson.

Oh fer crying out loud, who wants to see men wearing bikinis?

Uhhh, Arafat. The Taliban. Many Afghan warlords... is this a trick question?

I'm defending a terrorist, er, AP.

Look how this AP staffer has tried to clean it up a bit,
but fails, still reeks to me.
"Hussein, a native of Fallujah and a member of a prominent clan in the western province of Anbar, began work for the AP in the summer of 2004 as the anti-U.S. insurgency was gaining ground."

Gee, can't you hold down you 'feelings' at that last statement enough to name the either one of two 'clans' in your article B. Murphy? Seemed to have covered a lot of other details and views at hand.... just wondering.

JammieWearingFool (#200),

From your link:

SWEDISH women have launched a campaign to fight for the right to go topless on beaches and in swimming pools, saying they have just as much right to go without clothes as men.

The same thing happened here in Columbus. Some woman was cutting the lawn topless. Said it was discrimination if women had to wear tops while men didn't. The Judge ruled in favor of the women. So you can legally go topless in public here. Although it only happens rarely.

re: #164 Killgore Trout

No raisins for you.....
Raw video of, Afghan army bus bomber foiled

Those cops has balls.

Great video there KT, those guys have cojones indeed - many of these devices have two switches, one the bomber uses if he gets the nerve, and the remote that his handler uses in case he loses nerve.

re: #210 Geepers

The same thing happened here in Columbus. Some woman was cutting the lawn topless. Said it was discrimination if women had to wear tops while men didn't. The Judge ruled in favor of the women. So you can legally go topless in public here. Although it only happens rarely.

And when it does, the woman is probably a "Boobs Not Bombs" broad and not a Sports Illustrated Bikini bimbo.

re: #209 leap_frog

... in the summer of 2004,
as the anti-U.S. insurgency was gaining ground."

Not quite a rocking lyric, but you can just here the nostalgic glee in his voice... hey, they're "gaining ground" -hip-hip-hurray!

I guess he must be very sad now that al Qaeda in Iraq has had their asses handed to them!

OT: Shrill seems to be having a spot of trouble while Onray Aulpay is ahead of Thompson and Huckabee in NH...but Romney leads.

I report, you decide. My head hurts.

Alouette (#213),

Actually the last time I remember it was was some porn star at a protest rally. Don't remember exactly what the rally was for, something lame like PETA.

LOL Kenneth.

... and NOW they're getting pounded to the ground...

Ok, that's all for my musical interlude... :)

Gay-Baiting Giuliani--II
(well worth reading it all!)

Last week we noted that opponents of Rudy Giuliani have been reduced to falsely describing the former mayor as a "cross-dresser." Last Thursday, CBS's "The Early Show" provided a forum for another homophobic line of attack. This is from a "report" in which Mo Rocca, whom co-host Harry Smith describes as a "political satirist, blogger and contributor to CBS News," interviews Sam Chwat of the New York Speech Center:

Rocca: Is America ready for a president with a lisp? Rudy Giuliani has a lisp. . . . What kind of a lisp does Rudy Giuliani have?

Chwat: His is more of the dentalized type where his tongue comes too close to the front teeth, sort of like this. . . .

Rocca: If a lisp also connotes weakness, is that something that can be a detriment to someone who's trying to become the leader of the free world?

Chwat: Absolutely. And if you've got an enemy, he will use whatever you're using against him, you know, any part of a signature style he will use to mock you or make into a caricature of you.

Rocca: So he can call Kim Jong Il despicable but Kim Jong Il can say, "Baby talk, baby talk, it's a wonder you can walk," and tease Giuliani, and that's humiliating.

Chwat: Exactly.

(Excerpt from cartoon featuring Daffy Duck)

Rocca: I have here the oath of office. If Rudy Giuliani is elected, this is going to be a very important moment, a first impression for many around the globe of President Giuliani. I, Rudolph Giuliani, do solemnly swear, that I will faithfully executive [sic in transcript] the office of president of the United States.

Chwat: Try it like this. I, Rudy Giuliani, do sholemnly shwear.

Rocca: I, Rudy Giuliani, do sholemnly shwear.

It is unimaginable that a mainstream network would give this sort of treatment to, say, Barney Frank or John Edwards. We're not going to feign outrage again; the truth is that we find this all sort of amusing. But it is a reminder of just what a sham left-wing political correctness is. People who claim to oppose "homophobia" or other forms of prejudice often turn out merely to want a monopoly on it.

re: #38 shug

Artists too frightened to tackle radical Islam

Brave enough for this

Perry’s highly decorated pots can sell for more than £50,000 and often feature sex, violence and childhood motifs. One work depicted a teddy bear being born from a penis as the Virgin Mary.

but scared to show this

“With other targets you’ve got a better idea of who they are but Islamism is very amorphous. You don’t know what the threshold is. Even what seems an innocuous image might trigger off a really violent reaction so I just play safe all the time.”

Here's a clue for the dimwit ... since you're too scared to tackle Islam, do some designs that CELEBRATE the religion and culture that DON'T threaten you with death when you "criticize" (actually, mindlessly denigrate) them.

re: #194 gop_patriot

That is my favorite of all that are online.

Since this gopher is from Fallujah, my guess would be that some of his former insurgent buddies are among those who have come over to the allies, and they have provided the goods on him.
If so, and they have him actively assisting AQ, he may be looking at a rope.
If it goes down like that, expect unprecedented wailing and gnashing of teeth from the whole media-industrial complex.
It could easily be bigger than the Dan Rather docs case, a fulfillment and showdown, in fact, of the process that started when Charles and other bloggers exposed the fakes.

re: #126 Cognito

re: #100 Gordon Marock

re: #91 Cognito

Let me make it super clear: If a US military patrol comes across an insurgent group firing rocket propelled grenades at other US forces, and a "photographer" is standing amongst them, he should have his head blown off. Just because his photos are posted on AP after the fact does not absolve him of responsibility.

Um, yeah. I'd agree with that. Anybody hanging out with terrorists should know that bombs aren't picky.

I wouldn't be quite so blunt about it, just maybe the photog can be absent or out buying a pepsi at the particular moment the bombs drop, if ya see what I mean.

How about after the Iraqi justice system deals with him, the American justice system deals with the AP?

re: #210 Geepers

JammieWearingFool (#200),

From your link:

SWEDISH women have launched a campaign to fight for the right to go topless on beaches and in swimming pools, saying they have just as much right to go without clothes as men.

The same thing happened here in Columbus. Some woman was cutting the lawn topless. Said it was discrimination if women had to wear tops while men didn't. The Judge ruled in favor of the women. So you can legally go topless in public here. Although it only happens rarely.

How will I be able to control myself when I'm in the mood for a draught of warm milk?

I didn't just say that, did I?

re: #174 buzzsawmonkey

re: #155 MeCurious

re: #141 bikermailman

Patriotism: Not Quite Dead in the Public Schools
Click the black box for video. The video is small, but the audio is the compelling part.

That was truly beautiful. Brought tears to my eyes.

Beautiful performance. Two interesting changes:

1) They left out the verse:

He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat
He is sifting out the hearts of men before the judgment seat
Oh, be swift my soul, to answer Him--be jubilant my feet
Our God is marching on!

2) The original line in the last verse is: "As he died to make men holy, let us die to make men free", which was changed to "let us live to make men free" in the performance. Understandable; the original was sung by men going into battle, whereas this is being sung by schoolchildren, but it also represents a compromise.

Um, not to put too fine a point on it, buzz, but they were singing the Mormon Tabernacle version of it (arraigned by John Longhurst), and those are the words that the MTC sings. That one particular word change was deliberate, to emphasize that we need to work for, not just die for, freedom!

The kids did a wonderful job, too.

JAFLW

I made a copy and linked the following, which I think is Bilal Hussein's first pic run for AP. The only source I ever found was William Bowles (yuck), and I've given a direct link to where his site used it in one of their horrid PDFs.

Terrorists pose - indoors - for Bilal Hussein with the crashed drone they absconded with on Deptember 12, 2004.

And here is a link to the PDF it was used in.

re: #205 gop_patriot

It will depend on who's breast pam anderson vs rosie o'd

re: #216 Geepers

Alouette (#213),

Actually the last time I remember it was was some porn star at a protest rally. Don't remember exactly what the rally was for, something lame like PETA.

Which leads me to another question, how much is PETA paying all these porn stars to protest nekkid for them?

PETA must have a huge porno budget, whereas the "peace" peasants only have the Code Pinkos.

An Inconvenient Truth about Iraq

Things are getting better there. So much better that even the NY Times and Newsweek have to admit it. Grudgingly, but still. That’s got to hurt.

The quagmire seems to be drying up. It’s still too early to be sure this trend will progress. But the Iraqi forces have become more effective in dealing with problems. The factions that were supposed to be engaged in a civil war, according to the left, are uniting to fight Al Qaeda.

The Iraqis are tired of war, just as the Germans were at the end of WWII. They had the same kind of insurgent problems when the war ended there, but they got sorted out.

Many wise men have said that no one truly appreciates anything given to them, only what one earns for themself.

That simple truth was, in my opinion, the greatest flaw in our Iraq war strategy... the beneficiaries of our efforts were passive recipients of the gift of democracy; and as such, would view it as a novelty, and not as the core belief of a bright and prosperous future.

The violence and suffering inflicted upon the Iraqis by al Quaeda and the Shiite militias have inadvertently solved that problem. The Iraqis have now earned their freedom [in spades] and will, I believe, cherish it in a way that puts us jaded Americans to shame. Sometimes unintended consequences are your best friends.

Sorry I didn't get into this thread till the end. There is a lot of evidence that is starting to lead to a pattern of willful journalistic manipulation of the facts for propaganda purposes by Al Quada in Iraq by the AP whilst reporting on Iraq. Remember the infamous Capt. "Jamil" who was reporting big casualties from bombed mosques in an attempt to start a civil war in Iraq? Someone finally figured Capt. "Jamil" couldn't be everywhere and started investigating Jamil's claims and dutifully reported by AP as a "reliable" source. Michelle Malikan (Whom I personally find very attractive) traveled to Baghdad to try to find Capt. Jamil and discover the truth behind the AP reporting. Things got a little strange. The Iraqi government stated Capt. Jamil existed, but Jamil was never produced by the Iraq government nor the AP. Michelle came back empty handed. To this day AP insists the invisible and unavailable Capt. Jamil exists but has yet to provide any evidence that Capt. Jamil even breathes.
Now we have the Balil affair and the evidence is pretty damning. As can be seen by "Capt. Jamil" we know that the AP has no editorial ethics against using obvious propaganda espoused by Islamic terrorists hell-bent on killing American and Iraqi "infidels" in their quest for global domination. But the fact that the journalist in question had a piece of a Pulitzer prize for photography detailing terrorist activities as an embedded journalist embedded with Islamic terrorist attempting to kill Americans makes it evident that the most prestigious American prize in journalism was awarded for terrorist propaganda.
The AP and western media has a lot to explain. Expect this story to be "swift-boated" (ignored) by the media.

OT: Giuliani beats Clinton in new poll

re: #203 song_and_dance_man

re: #200 JammieWearingFool

"If women are forced to wear a top, shouldn't men also have to?" said one of the women, 22-year-old Ragnhild Karlsson.

Oh fer crying out loud, who wants to see men wearing bikinis?

You know, if women routinely went top-free in everyday life, women's breasts would cease being seen as sexual-objects.

NomadOfNorad (#232),

You know, if women routinely went top-free in everyday life, women's breasts would cease being seen as sexual-objects.

You must have left some words out of that statement or something.

Agree loflyer, seems we do have another one for the infamous list of 'journalistic tricks for tv news time'.

On one hand you have the 'government' run media of countries like, England, Can. Germany, Sweden, Norway, etc.. all left leaning.
Then the 'private' and or even 'public' media with their left plants and well no frigging' wonder it feels like we're beating our heads against the wall.

Personally have found the CBC and BBC most repugnant in carrying water for the enemy, over this hole business. Hand in hand here.

re: #232 NomadOfNorad

re: #203 song_and_dance_man

re: #200 JammieWearingFool

"If women are forced to wear a top, shouldn't men also have to?" said one of the women, 22-year-old Ragnhild Karlsson.

Oh fer crying out loud, who wants to see men wearing bikinis?

You know, if women routinely went top-free in everyday life, women's breasts would cease being seen as sexual-objects.

Sad, but probably true. I shall endeavor to resist the de-sexualization... no matter how many breasts I see! "Cause that's just the way I roll.

ops, - should be da other 'whole.'

re: #18 scaramouche

As if winning a Pulitzer means you can't fib.

Sorta like the Nobel Peace Prize, no?

re: #231 NY Nana

I think Hillary's toast

re: #234 Geepers

NomadOfNorad (#232),

You know, if women routinely went top-free in everyday life, women's breasts would cease being seen as sexual-objects.

You must have left some words out of that statement or something.

There is a direct paradox that the more we try to "hide away" parts of our bodies because they're "improper for us to see," the more the psyche WANTS to see those parts of the body, and the more of an illicit thrill one gets OUT of seeing those "forbidden" parts of the body.

If we were a nudist society, there probably wouldn't BE very much interest in pornography, because the naked body wouldn't have ANY sexual draw to it. A woman's breast would have no more titilation factor than a woman's armpit or a woman's wrist.

Somewhere recently I read a passing reference that, in countries where women are required to be covered from head to toe, that if some of her hair became visible from under her burka... some men would get sexually aroused by it! Women's hair! ! !

re: #236 stevieray

re: #232 NomadOfNorad

re: #203 song_and_dance_man

re: #200 JammieWearingFool

"If women are forced to wear a top, shouldn't men also have to?" said one of the women, 22-year-old Ragnhild Karlsson.

Oh fer crying out loud, who wants to see men wearing bikinis?

You know, if women routinely went top-free in everyday life, women's breasts would cease being seen as sexual-objects.

Sad, but probably true. I shall endeavor to resist the de-sexualization... no matter how many breasts I see! "Cause that's just the way I roll.

Well, I happen to be a closet nudist, so we're on opposite sides on this one. :P :D

re: #239 Ojoe

I think Hillary's toast

What did toast ever do to you?

Seriously? Your mouth to G-d's ear. This is going to be a very looooooong election, but if she (?) can be taken down in the Iowa Straw Poll? The Billaries are so sleazy and so treacherous that we have no idea what they will do next.

And the rest of the Demonrats put together do not make a viable candidate.

re: #242 NY Nana

There's a long way to go; and don't forget at this time in 1979, who had actually heard of Jimmy Carter? And in 1991, Dick Gebhardt was the "shoo-in" for the Democrat nomination. Billary may be remarkable politicians, but the one thing I've learned in an open primary is that all bets are off until sometime in April.

re: #242 NY Nana

Not many people, I think, like the idea of Bill in the White House again, as the 'first guy'. She'd have a better chance if she divorced him.

A Hillary nutcracker is a big novelty item these days.

Ah well, the party of the copperheads.

Hillary nutcracker

re: #243 Lucius Septimius

Right...but still, I would love to see Shrillary and her political partner taken down and prosecuted for their stealing White House property ,and also for her mess with the Rose Law firm..too many things to remember off hand, but when he was Governor? The Arkansas Mafia .....and Vince Foster.

Neither of them is fit to hold office in our country. Having Shrillary, the carpetbagger as our U.S. Senator has not been pleasant.

re: #244 Ojoe

Ojoe,

I would love to see them in The Big House rather than the White House.

I just hope that his having to run interference will not resonate well with voters. If Shrillary needs him to help the campaign, what would happen if she were President? Hand it over to him in a crisis?

How on earth can anyone even consider that bitch to be fit to hold any office?

re: #246 NY Nana

Unfortunately, ain't gonna happen. Like all good confidence men, they have compromised way too many people and have enough corrupt cronies in the Justice Department nothing will ever happen. That said, they're placing everything on this one roll of the dice, and if it backfires, they may find their friends dwindling rapidly. But age and heart disease will get them before due process.

re: #245 Ojoe

ROTFLMAO!

And the video?

Thanks for the best laugh today!

re: #247 Lucius Septimius

re: #246 NY Nana

Unfortunately, ain't gonna happen. Like all good confidence men, they have compromised way too many people and have enough corrupt cronies in the Justice Department nothing will ever happen. That said, they're placing everything on this one roll of the dice, and if it backfires, they may find their friends dwindling rapidly. But age and heart disease will get them before due process.

You made excellent points...wish they weren't, but I have a sinking feeling that you hit the nail on the head.

But again, it is still a year til the election, and we can only pray that reason will prevail.

re: #248 NY Nana

And with that, ta-da! Unelectable !

re: #237 leap_frog

Where are the Govt controlled newspapers in England, Germany et al ?
And as for this thread, name an insurgency, anywhere in the world , where photographers didn't get tip offs ? So, this photographer must be accused of something more than accepting tip offs.

Chavez & Ahmadinejad to have Love Child, Enquirber

Well, They look like a happy couple.

re: #240 NomadOfNorad

I frankly don't want to see people showing/flaunting their birthday suit in public. I'm all for them being allowed to establish their colonies and doing whatever in their own homes but forcing others to see it I think it's actually rude and selfish on the nudists part.

re: #250 Ojoe

For the sake of our country, my kids and especially my little grandkids? I only can hope so!

re: #251 threecoloursblue

You trolling?

I didn't state specifically 'newspapers' ... I did say tv news shows, did I not?

Michele Malkin had this whole story a year ago.

Shame on the AP - When will the editors and Board of Directors be charged, too.

Shame on Columbia and the Pulitzer Committee - Like they really care.

Way to go Pajamas Media - Too bad the MSM only thinks it's news now, and somehow still gets the story wrong.

re: #254 NY Nana

IIRC Hillary said "When I'm the president again" at some function.

re: #252 Straitcircle

But what will Sheehag say?

re: #249 NY Nana

re: #247 Lucius Septimius

re: #246 NY Nana

Unfortunately, ain't gonna happen. Like all good confidence men, they have compromised way too many people and have enough corrupt cronies in the Justice Department nothing will ever happen. That said, they're placing everything on this one roll of the dice, and if it backfires, they may find their friends dwindling rapidly. But age and heart disease will get them before due process.

You made excellent points...wish they weren't, but I have a sinking feeling that you hit the nail on the head.

But again, it is still a year til the election, and we can only pray that reason will prevail.

Reason? This is politics! Why would you expect it to make sense?

So... the terrorist stringer is going to get strung up? Brilliant!

al Dura and now Bilal Hussein. Two of the biggest terrorist propaganda coups (along with Lebanon's GHG and fauxtography) exposed in one week.

Amazing how the MSM now defends Bilal Hussein and ignores the al Dura French court story. When these stories first broke, the images were plastered wall to wall. Expect a three line retraction on p.8 anytime soon.

re: #255 leap_frog

You said media. And the same question stands for TV show. For example, Sky News is owned by Newscorp- Murdock, an American who owns Fox. ITV is independent. The only govt controlled media in Europe was in Italy under Berlisconi who was prime minister and owned the majority of the TV stations. But he was right wing.

re: #257 Ojoe

Yes, she did...I just can't remember where.

re: #259 Lucius Septimius

I wish that politics were not a blood sport, so help me.

My first vote was for JFK, at age 21 or so....no conventions, just the infamous dark, smoky rooms, and it seems that it worked better than the conventions, and the endless straw polls, etc..

re: #264 NY Nana

It's always been messy -- remember Bismarck's quip about watching government at work is like seeing sausage being made?

Hey, but look at it this way; without primaries etc. we'd never have been able to see Ed Muskie cry in the snow.

re: #257 Ojoe

Here you go!