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Mon, Nov 26, 2007 at 8:30:01 pm PST

Another night of violence in the suburbs of Paris: Police hurt in 2nd night of Paris suburb unrest.

VILLIERS-LE-BEL, France (Reuters) - At least 40 French police were hurt late on Monday in running battles with scores of rioters in a suburb north of Paris where two youths died after a crash involving a police car.

During a second night of disturbances in Villiers-le-Bel and nearby areas, a local government official said one policeman was shot in the shoulder by some kind of firearm but was only slightly wounded.

A garbage truck and a police vehicle were among at least 36 vehicles torched late at night in the Val d’Oise area that includes Villiers and nearby districts also hit by the unrest, police and local officials said.

A Reuters witness said police were pelted with stones, petrol bombs and large firecrackers that exploded over their heads during hours of cat-and-mouse skirmishes with rioters. Police replied with tear gas, rubber bullets and paint guns designed to identify troublemakers. Spent cartridges and rocks thrown by rioters littered the streets.

Injured officers were given treatment in a local fire station used by police as a base. One, his face bloodied, had his arm in a sling. Officials said 40 officers were slightly hurt, though three officers needed hospital treatment.

Local mayor Didier Vaillant, who had earlier called for calm, said airguns had been fired at police. “It looks like it’s going to be a long night,” he said.

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1 Cicero05  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:31:50pm

Youths (of some sort or other) strike again!

2 Mich-again  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:32:24pm

Are they firing rockets into Paris yet?

3 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:32:27pm

Those damn youths, I bet every one of them looks like Dennis the Menace and is just out to cause some harmless trouble.

4 Backstaber  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:33:29pm

Nights of the Torched Cars Part Two!

5 Macker  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:33:34pm

The French, they are a funny race...

6 stevieray  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:33:39pm

Holiday shopping coming up... need a raise in the jizya.

/well, it worked last time

7 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:33:56pm

Hilarious how media outlets censor Islamic rage, brutality, and hostility toward Western countries and culture.

8 Sharmuta  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:34:13pm
“It looks like it’s going to be a long night,”

When you pussyfoot with the enemy, long nights happen.

9 jcm  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:34:26pm

All they need is a Texas Ranger.

10 Racer X  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:34:41pm

It's all harmless. They're only burning cars and stuff.

Nothing to see here, move along.

11 MandyManners  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:35:15pm

Pres. Sarkozy, please act.

12 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:35:15pm

The BEEB is reporting that the rioters are "suburban residents" on the radio.

/What do UK subjects get for their license fees again?

13 Bloodnok  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:35:39pm

Hommes will be hommes...

14 Syrah  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:35:48pm

For France's sake, and for our sake, we should pray for rain and snow in Paris.

15 little boomer  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:36:05pm

Got robbed on the Paris subway by 5 knife wielding French immigrants once. You develop very little tolerance for crime after that,

16 The Other Les  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:36:32pm

At least those youths aren't speaking German.

17 Attaboid  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:36:39pm

Night 2*365. Or more. N'est ce pas?
Excuse my french.

18 Macker  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:37:08pm

re: #10 Racer X

It's all harmless. They're only burning cars and stuff.

Nothing to see here, move along.

Allow me to add: /Frank_Drebin

19 Racer X  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:37:19pm

Steal a vehicle - crash it into a police car - die - all your friends now riot in the streets.

Nope. Nothing wrong with this picture at all.

20 Seagreenroom  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:37:57pm

How long are the french going to put up with this crap?

21 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:37:57pm

re: #15 little boomer

Got robbed on the Paris subway by 5 knife wielding French immigrants once. You develop very little tolerance for crime after that,

Was it the RER line from Charles de Gaulle by chance?

22 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:39:02pm

re: #19 Racer X

Steal a vehicle - crash it into a police car - die - all your friends now riot in the streets.

Nope. Nothing wrong with this picture at all.

You forgot "Don't wear helmets." They were on a motorcycle without helmets.

23 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:39:08pm
24 Ashamed to be Dutch  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:39:28pm

re: #10 Racer X

It's all harmless. They're only burning cars and stuff.

Nothing to see here, move along.

Two police officers wounded by gunshots = harmless ?

Ho yes, it was "buckshot" (chevrotine) and no "birdshot" (for the one shot in the legs), another report says "large caliber bullet" (for the one shot in the shoulder, through his bullet poof vest).

25 Cicero05  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:40:24pm
"Police replied with tear gas, rubber bullets and paint guns designed to identify troublemakers"

Designed to identify them for what? Job training?

They could identify them much more effectively if they used real bullets. Once they're dead, you can take a dental cast.

26 Mich-again  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:40:31pm

The "outskirts" of Paris are akin to a fenceless prison. Good luck with that.

27 The Other Les  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:41:04pm

re: #20 Seagreenroom

How long are the french going to put up with this crap?

Unfortunately it's not an all or nothing phenomena with the French. The question should be, "when will Free French/Vichy split occur?"

28 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:41:13pm

Sarko must do something about this and show the French what leadership is.

29 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:41:28pm

re: #24 Ashamed to be Dutch

re: #10 Racer X

It's all harmless. They're only burning cars and stuff.

Nothing to see here, move along.

Two police officers wounded by gunshots = harmless ?

Ho yes, it was "buckshot" (chevrotine) and no "birdshot" (for the one shot in the legs), another report says "large caliber bullet" (for the one shot in the shoulder, through his bullet poof vest).

I think he was being sarcastic, much in the Dutch tradition.

30 The ET  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:41:41pm

Those doggone Buddhists again!

31 Sharmuta  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:41:57pm
A Reuters witness said police were pelted with stones, petrol bombs and large firecrackers that exploded over their heads during hours of cat-and-mouse skirmishes with rioters

WTH- nip it in the bud, and it will stop. They respect authority, not surrender.

32 The Other Les  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:42:55pm

re: #30 The ET

Those doggone Buddhists again!

Minnesota Lutherans.

33 little boomer  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:42:57pm

re: #21 karmic_inquisitor

re: #15 little boomer

Got robbed on the Paris subway by 5 knife wielding French immigrants once. You develop very little tolerance for crime after that,

Was it the RER line from Charles de Gaulle by chance?


Dunno-I forget, it was 1990. The immigrant problem goes back aways now.

34 Friend of USA  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:42:59pm

on another thread, # 13 ashamed to be Dutch provided links to youtube videos

I speak French, here is what I got

...

from the first video,

63 cars destroyed by fire,

the library, the treasury, two schools and a shopping mall damaged by fire

30 policemen wounded ( now 40 )

one policeman got a large caliber bullet in the shoulder

The situation is said to be worse than last night.

...

From the second video,

Police must escort and protect firefighters

the mediatech library has been completely destroyed by the, flames were over 30 feet high

the reporter says policemen are afraid because many gun shots have been fired at them by the "youths"

...

from the third video,

( we see a police car in flames )

a policeman has been shot in the knee

Journalists have been attacked

35 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:43:05pm

re: #25 Cicero05

Designed to identify them for what? Job training?

That is funny. Really.

36 Racer X  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:43:23pm

re: #25 Cicero05

"Police replied with tear gas, rubber bullets and paint guns designed to identify troublemakers"
Designed to identify them for what? Job training?

They could identify them much more effectively if they used real bullets. Once they're dead, you can take a dental cast.

I see no problem with that. In this day and age there are better ways to make your "grievances" known. The ones rioting and burning shit are thugs plain and simple. Shoot a few dead and guess what? It gets real calm.

37 6pat6  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:43:34pm

Just innocent "yutes" preparing for Car-B-Que season, nothing here, move along...we must respect their culture, blah blah blah...

38 American Soldier  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:43:45pm

re: #18 Macker

re: #10 Racer X


It's all harmless. They're only burning cars and stuff.

Nothing to see here, move along.


Allow me to add: /Frank_Drebin

What they need is- Dredd!

39 Ashamed to be Dutch  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:43:47pm

re: #25 Cicero05

"Police replied with tear gas, rubber bullets and paint guns designed to identify troublemakers"

Designed to identify them for what? Job training?

They could identify them much more effectively if they used real bullets. Once they're dead, you can take a dental cast.

LOL !

40 Attaboid  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:44:37pm

re: #22 karmic_inquisitor

re: #19 Racer X

Steal a vehicle - crash it into a police car - die - all your friends now riot in the streets.

Nope. Nothing wrong with this picture at all.

You forgot "Don't wear helmets." They were on a motorcycle without helmets.

Helmets? 15 year olds, stealing a motorcycle? The police are afraid. Very.

41 cheeseland  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:44:54pm

re: #1 Cicero05

One story said that the families of the youths have asked for calm on the street. Did any story give the names of the kids who died in the crash?

42 AZfederalist  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:45:30pm

I mentioned this in the dead thread. It's time for the French police to pull out and the French military to move in.

Martial law anyone?

/Tell me again why the Euro is so high and the US dollar so low?

43 Zimriel  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:45:42pm

Burning books, now?

44 The Other Les  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:45:52pm

Gotta get up way early in the morning.

Good night.

45 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:45:56pm

re: #33 little boomer

re: #21 karmic_inquisitor

re: #15 little boomer

Got robbed on the Paris subway by 5 knife wielding French immigrants once. You develop very little tolerance for crime after that,

Was it the RER line from Charles de Gaulle by chance?


Dunno-I forget, it was 1990. The immigrant problem goes back aways now.

The line from CDG goes through some of the worst banlieues. Take the express from CDG if you can.

46 jcm  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:46:06pm

Solution is real simple if the French have the balls.

Impose a curfew.
Curfew zone is a free fire zone for the Gendarmes.

47 Ashamed to be Dutch  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:46:32pm

re: #29 karmic_inquisitor

I think he was being sarcastic, much in the Dutch tradition.

I'm just a little nervous... I have a friend in the police around Paris...

48 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:46:44pm

I met an Algerian once who became a citizen of France and he hated them. Said they spit on him, the police would detain him and say he wasnt really French even though he immigrated legally and was a citizen, also he could not find a job to save his life. Its just anecdotal but it gave me some information from a citizen that lived there.

49 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:46:52pm

Racaille!

50 Cicero05  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:47:45pm

It looks like after a break of 1275 years, the Battle of Poitiers is resuming.

51 Attaboid  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:47:53pm

Bastille!

52 Ashamed to be Dutch  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:48:01pm

re: #41 cheeseland

re: #1 Cicero05

One story said that the families of the youths have asked for calm on the street. Did any story give the names of the kids who died in the crash?

Yes this is true, I saw it almost live

53 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:48:08pm
54 Racer X  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:48:30pm

re: #48 SecretInternetDoucheBag

I met an Algerian once who became a citizen of France and he hated them. Said they spit on him, the police would detain him and say he wasnt really French even though he immigrated legally and was a citizen, also he could not find a job to save his life. Its just anecdotal but it gave me some information from a citizen that lived there.

Hint:

move
back
to
algeria

55 freedomsound  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:49:22pm

This is justified resistance to the illegal French occupation of Paristinian territories. The Paristinians are merely fighting back, as best they can with stones, against the better-equipped French colonizers of Muslim holy land. Paris is the 17th holiest city in Islam.

56 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:49:27pm

re: #34 Friend of USA

Wow. What's French for, "Holy shit!"

57 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:49:28pm

"Tolerance" without Integration is Suicide.

58 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:49:54pm

So the count of burned cars from 2005 was around 9000, plus several hundred buildings. How long do you think Sarkozy will let this disturbance go?

59 Cicero05  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:50:03pm

re: #55 freedomsound

This is justified resistance to the illegal French occupation of Paristinian territories. The Paristinians are merely fighting back, as best they can with stones, against the better-equipped French colonizers of Muslim holy land. Paris is the 17th holiest city in Islam.

17th?

When did Paris pass Detroit?

60 Attaboid  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:50:38pm

re: #55 freedomsound

But of course.

61 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:50:48pm

re: #55 freedomsound

This is justified resistance to the illegal French occupation of Paristinian territories. The Paristinians are merely fighting back, as best they can with stones, against the better-equipped French colonizers of Muslim holy land. Paris is the 17th holiest city in Islam.

No silly. It's Allah's vengeance for Napoleon's invasion of the holy sands of Egypt!

18TH CENTURY AKHBAR! FREE MY PEOPLE'S STELAE!

/burn

62 Friend of USA  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:51:22pm

# 42 AZ federalist

/Tell me again why the Euro is so high and the US dollar so low?

So Europe will buy more US stuff and make the US economy stronger maybe?...

63 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:52:06pm
64 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:52:10pm

re: #34 Friend of USA

Journalists attacked?

Unless the attackers were wearing kifayas, they are in for it with the press.

OTOH, if they were wearing kifayas, they should just go ahead and kidnap a few journalists, drive them around a bit and drop them off. They can then expect a stream of sympathetic press in perpetuity.

/It works in Gaza.

65 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:52:45pm

re: #2 Mich-again

Are they firing rockets into Paris yet?

They're saving the RPGs for Mosque day.

I say we send in Snake Plisskin. 2008's first slow-season 1st quarter hit movie will be John Carpenter's "Escape from Paris".

66 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:53:28pm

re: #56 Noam Sayin'

re: #34 Friend of USA

Wow. What's French for, "Holy shit!"

Sacre Merde.

But it doesn't translate.

67 freedomsound  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:53:30pm

#59 Cicero05

17th?

When did Paris pass Detroit?

Detroit is the 5th holiest city, you infidel swine!

68 Attaboid  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:53:55pm

re: #64 karmic_inquisitor

Shit works in Gaza.

/apologies to Iron Fist.

69 Mich-again  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:53:57pm

re: #54 Racer X

I met an Algerian once who became a citizen of France...

move
back
to
algeria

Why should he move back, he's a citizen. I say once your Country makes a foreign born person a legal citizen the object is to assimilate that person, not alienate them and make them hate his new Country. You want to change the laws, fine, have at it. But to spit on a legal citizen and tell him to go back to his old Country? Thats BS.

70 Racer X  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:54:13pm

re: #65 Pawn of the Oppressor

re: #2 Mich-again

Are they firing rockets into Paris yet?
They're saving the RPGs for Mosque day.

I say we send in Snake Plisskin. 2008's first slow-season 1st quarter hit movie will be John Carpenter's "Escape from Paris".

Snake Plisskin? I thought he was dead.

71 Ashamed to be Dutch  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:54:57pm

re: #48 SecretInternetDoucheBag

I met an Algerian once who became a citizen of France and he hated them. Said they spit on him, the police would detain him and say he wasnt really French even though he immigrated legally and was a citizen, also he could not find a job to save his life. Its just anecdotal but it gave me some information from a citizen that lived there.

Playing the victim, typical !
I know some very well integrated arabs, working hard and almost "better than French" and even now my best friends. Many of those who play "constant victims of racism" (etc) just do NOT want to integrate and work.

72 Zimriel  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:54:57pm

I do know one police tactic that won't work - the paint ball guns. Those thugs will wear the paint like they were Legionnes d'Honneur. "Yeah, man... the pigs could've KILLED me out there."

73 stevieray  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:55:05pm

re: #14 Syrah

For France's sake, and for our sake, we should pray for rain and snow in Paris.

One problem...

Rain and snow
will come and go,
but seething is forever.

74 Friend of USA  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:55:15pm

# 56 Noam Sayin'

"Holy Shit!" would be

"Sainte Merde!"

75 Bloodnok  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:55:34pm

All your Jerry Lewis film are belong to us

76 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:55:50pm

re: #66 karmic_inquisitor

Online translator has it as:

Merde sainte!

77 Moody Leo  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:56:12pm

#9 jcm

You got that right, I remember reading about Texas oil fields (I think Kilgore) it was so bad they were crying for the Texas Rangers. ONE got off the train. The town was cleaned up within a week.

78 Carridine  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:56:15pm

"Redacting Lions & Lambs in the Valley of Elah as Mr Ahmad Sees Paris in the Springtime" will be a hit...

/maybe a BIG hit...

79 Racer X  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:56:19pm

re: #69 Mich-again

But to spit on a legal citizen and tell him to go back to his old Country? Thats BS.


I agree completely - that is BS. If I was in his shoes I would move out of that country pronto.

80 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:56:37pm

re: #74 Friend of USA

# 56 Noam Sayin'

"Holy Shit!" would be

"Sainte Merde!"

Okay, now pronounce it for me.

Heh.

81 Syrah  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:57:00pm

re: #73 stevieray

re: #14 Syrah

For France's sake, and for our sake, we should pray for rain and snow in Paris.

One problem...

Rain and snow
will come and go,
but seething is forever.

True, but its sucks to riot in a sleet storm.

82 Ashamed to be Dutch  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:57:11pm

re: #66 karmic_inquisitor

re: #56 Noam Sayin'

re: #34 Friend of USA

Wow. What's French for, "Holy shit!"

Sacre Merde.

But it doesn't translate.

Quel bordel or Nom de Dieu (etc)

83 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:57:37pm

re: #47 Ashamed to be Dutch

I hope your friend is with the right force and under good leadership.

84 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:57:38pm
85 Attaboid  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 8:58:12pm

Bordelle, Whorehouse.

86 jcm  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:00:03pm

re: #77 Moody Leo

#9 jcm

You got that right, I remember reading about Texas oil fields (I think Kilgore) it was so bad they were crying for the Texas Rangers. ONE got off the train. The town was cleaned up within a week.

Shooting a rioter in the head tends to settle the rest down right quick.

87 Carridine  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:00:05pm

re: #71 Ashamed to be Dutch


Many of those who play "constant victims of racism" (etc) just do NOT want to integrate and work.

I second that, Dutch.

I worked in Saudi Arabia, and the actual SAUDIS who met with us (as compared to Egyptians, Lebanese, Sudanese, Iraqis...) were vocally and non-verbally DISDAINFUL of anything even approaching responsible, trustworthy GAINFUL EMPLOYMENT.

/"work" is reserved for kffirs, who are obliged by God to support Muslim ubermenschen

88 Ashamed to be Dutch  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:00:12pm

re: #83 karmic_inquisitor

re: #47 Ashamed to be Dutch

I hope your friend is with the right force and under good leadership.

For now he is in a quiet suburb, this may change. Hope I may get some "insider" info for here ;-)

89 lostlakehiker  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:00:15pm
“It looks like it’s going to be a long night,” he said

It's going to be a long century. If France lasts that long. Bye-bye, everything-le-Bel.

90 Mich-again  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:00:18pm

re: #79 Racer X

I agree completely - that is BS. If I was in his shoes I would move out of that country pronto.

Really. I guess you are the American version of Fjordman then.

91 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:00:24pm
92 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:00:26pm

re: #71 Ashamed to be Dutch

Maybe who knows. Seemed pretty educated and hated the french more than anyone I have ever met. I met him when I was at an international university studying abroad. He asked me if I was French and I said "F#%# no I have a pair of balls." Me and him were fast friends after that.

93 Attaboid  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:00:32pm

Bordel is the correct spelling. :(

94 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:01:21pm

re: #84 Killgore Trout

The police are using paint guns? Where there's your problem right there.

95 Mich-again  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:01:51pm

Its not a whole lot different than Gaza.

So maybe we should give them their own State.

/not

96 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:02:15pm

re: #94 Noam Sayin'

Vive le truncheon!

97 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:02:27pm
98 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:02:28pm

re: #2 Mich-again

Are they firing rockets into Paris yet?

give em a couple years, then it will be raining Banileus

99 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:02:45pm
100 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:02:50pm

re: #90 Mich-again

re: #79 Racer X

I agree completely - that is BS. If I was in his shoes I would move out of that country pronto.

Really. I guess you are the American version of Fjordman then.

I wouldn't be so kind as to refer to him as "American" if that's his attitude.

"Go back to Europe, you foreign fuck!"

- Random Native American

101 Carridine  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:03:13pm

re: #90 Mich-again

Not necessarily, Mich... a rational assessment of the individual's personal financial reserves, earning ability and the market for his/her skills could easily lead to a decision to "get out of here, ASAP!"

Nothing racist about it...

102 AZfederalist  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:03:25pm

#84:

But what about the carbon footprint of these riots? Shouldn't the left be incensed? I mean, how many Hummers would it take to equal the carbon output from the flames of a single burning car?

/Save the world! Stop the rioters!

103 Cheeseland  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:03:52pm
The two teenagers were identified in the French news media merely as 15-year-old Moushin and 16-year-old Larami, who were riding a motorbike in Villiers-le-Bel...

Within an hour of the teenagers’ deaths, bands of youths began to throw stones at a police car. Through the evening, they burned down the police station in Villiers-le-Bel, and set fire to four privately owned buildings and 28 cars, the police said. Nine arrests were made, mainly in Villiers-le-Bel.

It goes on to say they that the police think there may be trouble tonight. I am amazed they can predict the future so wall. Last time trouble only lasted 3 weeks.

104 Ashamed to be Dutch  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:04:03pm

re: #93 Attaboid

Bordel is the correct spelling. :(

Bordel = brothel...

105 Silhouette  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:04:09pm
where two youths died after a crash involving a police car

My, but that is vague and short of vital information for a sentence in the lead paragraph.

Indeed for a sentence describing the central event of the entire story.

"Mistakes were made."

106 Racer X  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:05:21pm

re: #90 Mich-again

re: #79 Racer X

I agree completely - that is BS. If I was in his shoes I would move out of that country pronto.
Really. I guess you are the American version of Fjordman then.

Wow. That hurt.

My point was merely this: If you move to a country that spits on you - move away. The French act like they are so much better than lowly Americans, yet their social programs are severly lacking compared to the USA.

imho

107 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:05:45pm

re: #86 jcm

re: #77 Moody Leo


#9 jcm

You got that right, I remember reading about Texas oil fields (I think Kilgore) it was so bad they were crying for the Texas Rangers. ONE got off the train. The town was cleaned up within a week.


Shooting a rioter in the head tends to settle the rest down right quick.

Much as I hate to advocate this sort of thing, I think these Banileux are two years past their due date for a visit by a division of French paratroopers.

Ever seen those maps of "no-go zones"? Seven-hundred-plus "zones of special control" (how I live French euphemisms), and if I recall correctly the online maps date to 1992.

108 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:06:25pm
109 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:06:28pm

re: #106 Racer X

re: #90 Mich-again


re: #79 Racer X
I agree completely - that is BS. If I was in his shoes I would move out of that country pronto.
Really. I guess you are the American version of Fjordman then.

Wow. That hurt.

My point was merely this: If you move to a country that spits on you - move away. The French act like they are so much better than lowly Americans, yet their social programs are severly lacking compared to the USA.

imho

France is lacking comapred the the USA period, but they have good wine and cheese

110 Andrew_KJ  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:06:29pm

re: #42 AZfederalist

I mentioned this in the dead thread. It's time for the French police to pull out and the French military to move in.

Martial law anyone?

/Tell me again why the Euro is so high and the US dollar so low?

Federal Reserve

***

And no matter what happens in Paris, we have had worse...

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

The Crown Heights Riot was a three-day riot in the Crown Heights neighborhood in the New York City borough of Brooklyn. The community was home to approximately 180,000 Caribbean-Americans and West Indians (50%), African Americans (39%), and a minority population of about 20,000 Jewish residents (11%). Six percent of the residents of Crown Heights were Lubavitch Chassidim. The riots began on August 19, 1991, and were called "one of the most serious incidents of antisemitism in American history" by Edward Shapiro, Professor of History Emeritus at Seton Hall University. and a pogrom of Blacks against Jews by Professor Stephen J. Whitfield, Max Richter Professor of American Civilization, Journalism, and American Studies at Brandeis University. Then District Attorney Charles J. Hynes said the rioting was “the most chilling” in New York City’s history, and the anti-Semitic slogans and slurs of the rioters “were the most vile incitement to hatred, destruction, and murder that Brooklyn has ever witnessed." Many in the Jewish community viewed it as a pogrom.

The Israeli flag was burned, and rioters marched through Crown Heights carrying anti-Semitic signs. African-Americans walked around in front of 770 Eastern Parkway, the Lubavitcher headquarters, shouting "Heil Hitler" and throwing rocks, prompting the police to erect barricades in front of the building.

By the time the three days of rioting ended, a Lubavitcher woman, Bracha Estrin, a widow who had survived the Holocaust, was driven to commit suicide. "She lived near the Cato apartment house, which had become the gathering place for agitators, and for a week she had been subjected to anti-Semitic harangues. Estrin had reportedly told neighbors that she could not endure what was taking place in the neighborhood." In addition, 152 police officers and 38 civilians were injured, 27 vehicles were destroyed, seven stores were looted, and 225 cases of robbery and burglary were committed. At least 129 arrests were made during the riots,[40] including 122 African Americans and seven whites.

***

More info

[Link: www.upne.com...]
[Link: www.ex-iwp.org...]

111 DesertSage  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:07:05pm

re: #97 savage_nation

Holy SHIT!

Kevin DuBrow of Quiet Riot is now dead.

Ron Paul?

112 solomonpanting  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:07:11pm

re: #95 Mich-again

Its not a whole lot different than Gaza.

So maybe we should give them their own State.

/not

Francostan?

113 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:07:44pm
114 Cheeseland  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:07:49pm

re: #84 Killgore Trout

Cool video. The french police seem to be very good at walking backwards quickly while in straight lines. I bet it is pretty tricky and they have to drill constantly.

115 siiras  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:07:54pm

Is Paris Burning? Redux

thanks to a new wave of barbarians...

116 Cicero05  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:08:06pm

re: #112 solomonpanting

re: #95 Mich-again


Its not a whole lot different than Gaza.

So maybe we should give them their own State.

/not


Francostan?

Is it too late to invite the "youths" to Annapolis? I mean, why the hell not?

117 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:08:25pm

re: #107 Pawn of the Oppressor


how I live French euphemisms

*clap*

*clap*

*clap*

*clap*

/every man's fantasy.

118 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:08:39pm

re: #106 Racer X

re: #90 Mich-again


re: #79 Racer X
I agree completely - that is BS. If I was in his shoes I would move out of that country pronto.
Really. I guess you are the American version of Fjordman then.

Wow. That hurt.

My point was merely this: If you move to a country that spits on you - move away. The French act like they are so much better than lowly Americans, yet their social programs are severly lacking compared to the USA.

imho

It sounded like you wanted anybody non-French kicked out, like it was their fault for being foreign-born.

France is the bleeding edge of multiculturalism's failure. They are inherently racist. "Look, wi 'ave ze brown peopul! We aigh so toleghront! We keep zem like leetle pets, you know..."

119 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:08:42pm

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]
"Twenty-five policemen injured, dozens of cars burned, shops destroyed, individuals assaulted. Blind with rage, the rampaging mob found time to steal before smashing and burning. For the brother of Mushin, one of the victims, “it’s not violence, it’s an expression of rage.”

You gotta give em credit, even while blind, they do take just enough time to steal first, then smash and burn.

120 Mich-again  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:08:47pm

re: #101 Carridine

Rich people don't typically emigrate. Why would they? They got it made already.

I'm just saying if someone is a legal citizen and they have to listen to people shouting at them they should go back to their old Country, thats BS.

121 DesertSage  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:09:20pm

re: #113 savage_nation

re: #111 DesertSage

re: #97 savage_nation

Holy SHIT!

Kevin DuBrow of Quiet Riot is now dead.

Ron Paul?

Indeed!

Hey, did you get the gold cup?

I finished. That was good enough for me :')

122 Zimriel  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:10:35pm

re: #54 Racer X

re: #48 SecretInternetDoucheBag


I met an Algerian once who became a citizen of France and he hated them. Said they spit on him, the police would detain him and say he wasnt really French even though he immigrated legally and was a citizen, also he could not find a job to save his life. Its just anecdotal but it gave me some information from a citizen that lived there.

Hint:

move
back
to
algeria

If he's a legal citizen of France, obeying the law, not frequenting the evil sort of mosque and honestly trying to gain employment - then he shouldn't have to "move back". I'd imagine he'd resent such talk the way I'd resent some d*ckhead telling me to move "back" to England.

123 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:10:42pm

re: #119 jaunte

[Link: pajamasmedia.com...]
"Twenty-five policemen injured, dozens of cars burned, shops destroyed, individuals assaulted. Blind with rage, the rampaging mob found time to steal before smashing and burning. For the brother of Mushin, one of the victims, “it’s not violence, it’s an expression of rage.”

You gotta give em credit, even while blind, they do take just enough time to steal first, then smash and burn.

“it’s not violence, it’s an expression of rage.”

That should be the Democrats new slogan

124 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:10:59pm

I hereby appoint myself acting Secretary of State, and my first act will be to cut a deal with France.

Missieur Sarkozy,

I offer France the service of two of our Marine divisions. I ask only for Alizee in exchange.

Vive Le France, and God Bless her perfect little derriere,

-S.o.S. (Acting) PoTO

125 Racer X  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:11:18pm

re: #118 Pawn of the Oppressor

It sounded like you wanted anybody non-French kicked out, like it was their fault for being foreign-born.


No, not at all.

It was more a slap at the French. Why would anyone move there in the first place?

126 Carridine  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:11:23pm

re: #120 Mich-again

I can see that, Mich.

It takes some kind of attitude to WANT to be surrounded by people who belittle and despise you.

127 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:11:30pm
128 Moody Leo  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:11:42pm

Fortunately, The Boom days in the oil field weren't as bad as this in France. Had several members of family that wildcatted in the good ole days, so I heard and read plenty of stories.

On the "Youts" rioting, I think the time has come to get physical.

129 AZfederalist  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:13:04pm

#110

Not sure how you can draw the equivalence that the Crown Heights riot was worse. This one is just starting. The riots from 2005 (according to #58) saw 9000 cars burned and several hundred buildings damaged.

The fact that one woman died in the CH riots is sad, but that was at her own hand, not by the rioters. At the rate the yutes are going in Paris, they are going to kill someone.

130 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:13:05pm

re: #126 Carridine

re: #120 Mich-again

I can see that, Mich.

It takes some kind of attitude to WANT to be surrounded by people who belittle and despise you.

Sounds like any Jew in the Democratic party today

131 jcm  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:13:19pm

re: #107 Pawn of the Oppressor

I am not much for the indiscriminate use of lethal force either.
BUT
When un-civilized behavior is rampant. And civilized means of control are worthless. The the mob needs to be treated temporarily as a collective, and extraordinary means need to be deployed to protect the rest of the society. It's harsh but the individual choses to run with a mob.

132 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:13:38pm

re: #125 Racer X

re: #118 Pawn of the Oppressor


It sounded like you wanted anybody non-French kicked out, like it was their fault for being foreign-born.

No, not at all.

It was more a slap at the French. Why would anyone move there in the first place?

Food and alcohol. Pretty countryside. Local charm. Cultural history (mob violence aside).

Champagne.

Just don't park your car in any Muslim neighborhoods. And oh yes, if you are "ze jew", stay "le home".

133 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:13:56pm

re: #69 Mich-again

re: #54 Racer X

I met an Algerian once who became a citizen of France...

move
back
to
algeria

Why should he move back, he's a citizen. I say once your Country makes a foreign born person a legal citizen the object is to assimilate that person, not alienate them and make them hate his new Country. You want to change the laws, fine, have at it. But to spit on a legal citizen and tell him to go back to his old Country? Thats BS.

Here is the thing to note in all of this - the French are VERY nationalistic and expect the "etranger" (foreigner) to adapt to the French way in every detail. This is one reason why antisemitism has fertile ground there - many view Jews as intrinsically not French. French chauvinism is so entrenched that they have a common way of saying "that is not normal" by saying "c'est pas Catholique" (that's not Catholic).

In other words, the French are in no way multiculturalists.

Contrast that with the English, who have this bizzare post-colonial guilt that drives it to adopt cultural suicide policies. The English are so deeply committed to multiculturalism that they have incidents like channel 4 news producers being investigated by the police for reporting on Islamists who say they want to destroy and subjugate the UK.

The rub is that neither approach is working - a significant portion of Muslims in both countries despise the government that made them citizens.

Europe likes to preach to America about the need for America to be more welcoming, civilized and tolerant in order to purge itself of its obvious racism. Europe ought to look to America to try to understand how to bring people from all corners of the globe to one place and have it function as a cohesive, productive and law abiding whole.

134 Spiny Norman  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:13:59pm

re: #48 SecretInternetDoucheBag

I met an Algerian once who became a citizen of France and he hated them. Said they spit on him, the police would detain him and say he wasnt really French even though he immigrated legally and was a citizen, also he could not find a job to save his life. Its just anecdotal but it gave me some information from a citizen that lived there.

The French are VERY particular about who they consider "French". I know a former Frenchman* who was called "etranger" and worse growing up in Marseilles... until he gave up and emigrated to America.

*He was born to French parents in Hanoi after WWII. His father was a military intelligence officer who was murdered by the Viet Minh. His mother disappeared soon after, either kidnapped or fled the country, and he was left in the care of his Vietnamese housekeeper (he was about 4 years old at the time). A year or so later, some Vietnamese men demanded she hand the boy over. She feared for his life, so she took him to the French colonial goverment, who sent him to an orphanage in Marseilles. This was around 1953: when he arrived in his "home country", he spoke hardly a word of French, only Vietnamese.

135 DesertSage  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:14:05pm

re: #127 savage_nation

Had a great time! It was a grueling ride but it was fun. If it wasn't for the GPS we would still be riding around in circles in the desert.

136 Mich-again  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:14:09pm

re: #106 Racer X

If you move to a country that spits on you...

Just getting spit on by someone doesn't mean the whole Country doesn't want you there and you should leave. Especially if that Country granted you citizenship. Thats my point. If the rule of law says you are legal to be there why should you turn tail and get out because someone doesn't like their own Country's laws.

137 NYBoogie88  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:14:23pm

First comment ever!

138 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:14:31pm

re: #132 Pawn of the Oppressor

Don't forget hot snobby women

139 solomonpanting  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:14:51pm

re: #120 Mich-again

re: #101 Carridine

Rich people don't typically emigrate. Why would they? They got it made already.


Unless the government is overrun by Chavistas or Castroites.

140 redc1c4  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:14:52pm

A song for the French Police...

maybe we could send over the Metro section of the LAPD? %-)

141 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:15:35pm
142 tsionguy  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:15:39pm

re: #99 song_and_dance_man

Were the police trained in the pointilist school o impressionism?

143 Mich-again  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:16:04pm

re: #126 Carridine

It takes some kind of attitude to WANT to be surrounded by people who belittle and despise you.

Huh? Whatever happened to the Golden Rule. Treat other people how you want them to treat you.

144 Cicero05  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:16:04pm

So is the French military on strike? Why doesn't Sarkozy use them?

145 stevieray  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:16:30pm

re: #81 Syrah

re: #73 stevieray

re: #14 Syrah

For France's sake, and for our sake, we should pray for rain and snow in Paris.

One problem...

Rain and snow
will come and go,
but seething is forever.

True, but its sucks to riot in a sleet storm.

The point I was trying to make is this: The non-Muslim world has to stop relying on temporary measures and eventual riot exhaustion as answers to these explosions. Those are short-term stopgaps that lead to bigger problems down the road... they are not solutions.

146 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:16:52pm

re: #137 NYBoogie88

First comment ever!

Welcome, but whats with the 88?

88 is not a popular number around here.

147 Mich-again  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:17:45pm

re: #139 solomonpanting

Unless the government is overrun by Chavistas or Castroites.

If that were the case they wouldn't be rich for very long so it makes sense to get out while the getting is good.

148 jcm  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:18:17pm

Night all.

149 solomonpanting  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:18:18pm

re: #116 Cicero05

re: #112 solomonpanting


re: #95 Mich-again

Its not a whole lot different than Gaza.
So maybe we should give them their own State.

/not


Francostan?

Is it too late to invite the "youths" to Annapolis? I mean, why the hell not?

They'd just demand East Parisalem as their capitol/holy site.

150 DerKrieger  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:18:38pm

re: #147 Mich-again

Numerology issues or concerned he may be a Brownshirt?

151 DesertSage  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:18:47pm

re: #146 pegcity

Why isn't the number 88 popular around here peg?

152 sixoh1  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:19:15pm

re: #65 Pawn of the Oppressor

I thought he was taller?

153 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:19:24pm

re: #144 Cicero05

So is the French military on strike? Why doesn't Sarkozy use them?

They are only trained to Surrender, fighting is not their thing, besides um i think they all have the Flu or something.

154 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:20:13pm

re: #151 DesertSage

re: #146 pegcity

Why isn't the number 88 popular around here peg?

Neo Nazi code

88 = 8eil 8itler

155 Neo Con since 9-11  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:20:14pm

re: #146 pegcity

Do we have a 19 year old hatchling? If so welcome aboard young one.

156 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:20:45pm

re: #134 Spiny Norman


The French are VERY particular about who they consider "French". I know a former Frenchman* who was called "etranger" and worse growing up in Marseilles... until he gave up and emigrated to America.

This really twists my brain.

Coming from a country of ideas, and judging from that framework - what the f-ck do the French have to be proud of? Jacobin mob violence? The guillotine? Filling up barges with people and then sinking the barges in the river? Frigging Napoleon? Vichy France? Decades of de facto Communism? Being on the wrong side of every issue by choice? Foreign policy cynicism? Arabism? Being butt-buddies with the worst elements of global conspiracy in the name of making a buck?

Aside from the cuisine, painting, and the spirit of WW1 and the Resistance in WW2, I don't see what they could consider "French" that the rest of the world would acknowledge as being a good thing. What is the determinant of "French" vs. "Not French"?

157 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:20:57pm

re: #114 Cheeseland

re: #84 Killgore Trout

Cool video. The french police seem to be very good at walking backwards quickly while in straight lines. I bet it is pretty tricky and they have to drill constantly.

It is genetic.

Morphed into a dominant chromosome around World War 2.

158 Ashamed to be Dutch  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:21:12pm

re: #151 DesertSage

re: #146 pegcity

Why isn't the number 88 popular around here peg?

This : [Link: www.adl.org...]

159 Mich-again  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:21:19pm

re: #146 pegcity

Good call on the 88 thing.. NYBoogie88, are you a piano player, a Charlie Sanders fan or a Nazi?

160 DistantThunder  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:21:19pm

Re: Fake but accurate memo thread - bares repeating

Oh, this is so entertaining. Thank you Kos Kiddies for bringing so much humor into the world.

And Hillary has admitted in public that Kos is her personal pipeline.

And we'll have fun, fun, fun until Rudy takes her dream job away.

Or Mitt.

161 Idle Drifter  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:22:10pm

re: #131 jcm

re: #107 Pawn of the Oppressor

I am not much for the indiscriminate use of lethal force either.
BUT
When un-civilized behavior is rampant. And civilized means of control are worthless. The the mob needs to be treated temporarily as a collective, and extraordinary means need to be deployed to protect the rest of the society. It's harsh but the individual choses to run with a mob.

I'm surprised lethal force is not dished out to those throwing Molotov cocktails which is itself an incendiary device that can kill and maim. Though I do like the idea of paint shot to mark individuals for arrest.

162 pat  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:22:36pm

In Detroit or New Orleans this behavior would seem quaint. In most civilized cities we would expect these people to be shot like dogs.

163 DistantThunder  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:22:41pm

Or -

She'll have fun, fun fun until Rudy takes her dream job away.

164 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:22:47pm

re: #156 Pawn of the Oppressor

re: #134 Spiny Norman


The French are VERY particular about who they consider "French". I know a former Frenchman* who was called "etranger" and worse growing up in Marseilles... until he gave up and emigrated to America.

This really twists my brain.

Coming from a country of ideas, and judging from that framework - what the f-ck do the French have to be proud of? Jacobin mob violence? The guillotine? Filling up barges with people and then sinking the barges in the river? Frigging Napoleon? Vichy France? Decades of de facto Communism? Being on the wrong side of every issue by choice? Foreign policy cynicism? Arabism? Being butt-buddies with the worst elements of global conspiracy in the name of making a buck?

Aside from the cuisine, painting, and the spirit of WW1 and the Resistance in WW2, I don't see what they could consider "French" that the rest of the world would acknowledge as being a good thing. What is the determinant of "French" vs. "Not French"?

They Built a friggin huge Airplane man, and um some crappy cars, and a fighter plane no one wants to buy, and an aircraft carrier that could only go in circles

165 Racer X  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:23:19pm

re: #160 DistantThunder

And we'll have fun, fun, fun until Rudy takes her dream job away.


Too funny.

I cannot wait.

166 Zimriel  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:23:21pm

#146: #137 was probably born in '88. Youngun'.

(i hope)

167 AZfederalist  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:23:22pm

re: #138 pegcity

re: #132 Pawn of the Oppressor

Don't forget hot sweaty snobby women

Fixed it for ya

168 Sharmuta  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:23:46pm

re: #133 karmic_inquisitor

Europe likes to preach to America about the need for America to be more welcoming, civilized and tolerant in order to purge itself of its obvious racism. Europe ought to look to America to try to understand how to bring people from all corners of the globe to one place and have it function as a cohesive, productive and law abiding whole.

Amen! It will be a cold day in hell before I advocate adopting european attitudes towards eliminating racism in this country. The euros are bass ackwards on this, and they're far too arrogant to ever admit we Americans are right about anything.

169 DesertSage  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:24:03pm

re: #154 pegcity

re: #151 DesertSage

re: #146 pegcity

Why isn't the number 88 popular around here peg?

Neo Nazi code

88 = 8eil 8itler

Wow, thanks I didn't know that. I guess I lead a sheltered life...I need to get out more often.

170 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:24:04pm

Whoops, I meant "global tyranny", not "conspiracy". I suppose I was thinking of the EU when I typed "conspiracy". :p

171 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:24:09pm
172 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:24:49pm
173 Mich-again  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:25:01pm

re: #133 karmic_inquisitor

Europe likes to preach to America about the need for America to be more welcoming, civilized and tolerant in order to purge itself of its obvious racism. Europe ought to look to America to try to understand how to bring people from all corners of the globe to one place and have it function as a cohesive, productive and law abiding whole.

That most excellent paragraph sums it all up so well. Thank you for that.

174 Cicero05  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:25:12pm

re: #153 pegcity

re: #144 Cicero05


So is the French military on strike? Why doesn't Sarkozy use them?

They are only trained to Surrender, fighting is not their thing, besides um i think they all have the Flu or something.

There's no doubt that the French military is no good against an actual army with guns and uniforms, but these are disorganized "youths" with rocks and Molotov cocktails.

I guess if a squad of angry Girl Scouts attacks, the French Army will be ready (and evenly matched).

175 pat  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:25:15pm

re: #168 Sharmuta

ditto

176 Sharmuta  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:25:26pm

re: #169 DesertSage

I need to get out read LGF more often.

Fixed. ;)

177 victor_yugo  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:25:59pm

Jihadi cells
Take note somehow
You need to blow
Yourselves up now

Booma-Shave

178 sixoh1  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:26:19pm

re: #94 Noam Sayin'

re: #84 Killgore Trout

The police are using paint guns? Where there's your problem right there.

Raises an interesting thought... if the police used ultraviolet paint in the paint-balls and then shoot the agitators or suspected agitators while filming, then bright and early 8am when the rioters are gettin sleepy go round 'em up. If they claim to be innocent shine the black light on 'em and voila, c'est ici, le proof.

This would be a fantastic way to keep from making mayrters of the rioters, shooting them only makes more rioters, locking them up and shaming them with their peers and parents, thats more effective with children.

179 pat  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:26:37pm

The French could stop this in days. All they have to do is say "it is over". Period.

180 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:27:23pm

re: #173 Mich-again

re: #133 karmic_inquisitor


Europe likes to preach to America about the need for America to be more welcoming, civilized and tolerant in order to purge itself of its obvious racism. Europe ought to look to America to try to understand how to bring people from all corners of the globe to one place and have it function as a cohesive, productive and law abiding whole.

That most excellent paragraph sums it all up so well. Thank you for that.

America for the most part is color blind, Oprah winfree is the most powerful celebrity in the US who commands an army of Minions of every race creed and gender. I can't see that in France.

181 Killian Bundy  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:27:36pm

re: #174 Cicero05

I guess if a squad of angry Girl Scouts attacks, the French Army will be ready (and evenly matched).

/France Surrenders to Texas High School

182 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:27:46pm

re: #172 savage_nation

Keep em away from Chavez, he doesn't need any more recruits.

183 bikermailman  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:27:59pm

re: #171 song_and_dance_man

these alladam worshipers have no idea what is about to hit them

the beasts patsies need to hear this from us

That was great...thanks for linking!

184 DistantThunder  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:28:00pm

"Are those cookies made with real Girl Scouts?"

-Wednesday Adams

185 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:28:14pm

re: #174 Cicero05

re: #153 pegcity


re: #144 Cicero05

So is the French military on strike? Why doesn't Sarkozy use them?

They are only trained to Surrender, fighting is not their thing, besides um i think they all have the Flu or something.

There's no doubt that the French military is no good against an actual army with guns and uniforms, but these are disorganized "youths" with rocks and Molotov cocktails.

I guess if a squad of angry Girl Scouts attacks, the French Army will be ready (and evenly matched).

Swearing is there most effective tactic

186 victor_yugo  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:28:29pm

re: #179 pat

The French could stop this in days. All they have to do is say "it is over". Period.

Like the UN's strongly-worded missives?

187 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:28:38pm
188 pat  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:28:42pm

re: #178 sixoh1

Good thought

189 DesertSage  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:29:20pm

re: #176 Sharmuta

re: #169 DesertSage

I need to get out read LGF more often.

Fixed. ;)

Sharm, that's one of the reasons I wasn't getting out more often :')

190 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:29:29pm
191 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:29:35pm

re: #178 sixoh1

re: #94 Noam Sayin'

re: #84 Killgore Trout

The police are using paint guns? Where there's your problem right there.

Raises an interesting thought... if the police used ultraviolet paint in the paint-balls and then shoot the agitators or suspected agitators while filming, then bright and early 8am when the rioters are gettin sleepy go round 'em up. If they claim to be innocent shine the black light on 'em and voila, c'est ici, le proof.

This would be a fantastic way to keep from making mayrters of the rioters, shooting them only makes more rioters, locking them up and shaming them with their peers and parents, thats more effective with children.

Naaah.

They'd claim they were at EuroDisney and the hand stamp guy at the exit went nutso on them and painted them with the invisible ink.

/

192 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:29:39pm

re: #187 savage_nation

re: #174 Cicero05


re: #153 pegcity

re: #144 Cicero05

So is the French military on strike? Why doesn't Sarkozy use them?

They are only trained to Surrender, fighting is not their thing, besides um i think they all have the Flu or something.

There's no doubt that the French military is no good against an actual army with guns and uniforms, but these are disorganized "youths" with rocks and Molotov cocktails.

I guess if a squad of angry Girl Scouts attacks, the French Army will be ready (and evenly matched).


Naw, they will surrender to a bunch of high schoolers from Texas

Release the dreaded mimes

193 Render  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:29:56pm

For whatever its worth I took RacerX's comment to be as he later explained it, on first glance.

After all, some people really deserve to be in France.

===

#110

Al *spit* Sharpton

And they keep telling me that it can't happen here.

And Andrew2 wonders why I'm a heavily armed Jew.

NO ROOM
FOR PRISONERS,
R

194 WayDownSouthInBama  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:30:06pm

re: #144 Cicero05

So is the French military on strike? Why doesn't Sarkozy use them?

This riot will be worse than the last,and the next one worse than this one. Talk will do nothing against a hate filled group of thugs out to maim,kill,and destroy. When it reaches a point that these terrorists,and that's exactly what they are, have to pay the price for their actions,only then will some sense of normalcy be restored.

Sarkozy has a chance to show some backbone and treat these thugs like the terrorists they are. If he doesn't,he will have the blood of innocent people on his hands very,very soon. Sarkozy needs to take whatever steps necessary to gain control of this situation and maintain that control.

195 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:30:26pm
196 tsionguy  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:30:29pm

re: #178 sixoh1

Better yet, paint them with ultraviolet paint, AND dress them in Elvis costumes. New Wave French Cinema!

197 pat  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:30:38pm

re: #186 victor_yugo

re: #179 pat

The French could stop this in days. All they have to do is say "it is over". Period.

Like the UN's strongly-worded missives?

Well. Sometimes you have to mean it! You must kill someone!

198 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:31:23pm

re: #194 WayDownSouthInBama

re: #144 Cicero05


So is the French military on strike? Why doesn't Sarkozy use them?

This riot will be worse than the last,and the next one worse than this one. Talk will do nothing against a hate filled group of thugs out to maim,kill,and destroy. When it reaches a point that these terrorists,and that's exactly what they are, have to pay the price for their actions,only then will some sense of normalcy be restored.

Sarkozy has a chance to show some backbone and treat these thugs like the terrorists they are. If he doesn't,he will have the blood of innocent people on his hands very,very soon. Sarkozy needs to take whatever steps necessary to gain control of this situation and maintain that control.

Can you say Quagmire?

199 Andrew_KJ  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:31:50pm

re: #124 Pawn of the Oppressor

I hereby appoint myself acting Secretary of State, and my first act will be to cut a deal with France.

Missieur Sarkozy,

I offer France the service of two of our Marine divisions. I ask only for Alizee in exchange.

Vive Le France, and God Bless her perfect little derriere,

-S.o.S. (Acting) PoTO

you mean this "derriere"?

[Link: archief.retecool.com...]

re: #129 AZfederalist

#110

Not sure how you can draw the equivalence that the Crown Heights riot was worse. This one is just starting. The riots from 2005 (according to #58) saw 9000 cars burned and several hundred buildings damaged.

The fact that one woman died in the CH riots is sad, but that was at her own hand, not by the rioters. At the rate the yutes are going in Paris, they are going to kill someone.

Oh no, much more than one person died, the info I gave only covered the basics, there were several Jewish deaths I believe

200 Cheeseland  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:32:32pm

re: #180 pegcity

Wasn't Oprah locked out of some shop in Paris because the doorman thought she looked like an undesireable.

201 bikermailman  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:32:55pm

re: #190 savage_nation

re: #181 Killian Bundy


re: #174 Cicero05

I guess if a squad of angry Girl Scouts attacks, the French Army will be ready (and evenly matched).

/France Surrenders to Texas High School

Aww, ya beat me... grr

GMTA...and so do y'alls...

202 Zimriel  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:32:57pm

As a (former) mathematician, let me drop some names of famous French mathematicians:
-Legendre
-Pascal(!)
-Laplace
-Fourier
-Legrande
-Mandelbrot (Polish born, but still)
-Cauchy(!)
-Poincare
-Hilbert

French scientists and mathematicians have been pretty amazing at calculus and physics, and at moving the world toward Enlightenment in general. It's their politicians who suck.

203 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:33:04pm
204 UncleSam  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:33:43pm

The police should be issued machine guns and allowed to fire at will.
Screw this pussyfooting crap.

205 redc1c4  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:34:15pm

re: #109 pegcity

France is lacking comapred the the USA period, but they have good wine and cheese

neither of those are *that* good...

The French are a smallish, monkey-looking bunch and not dressed any better, on average, than the citizens of Baltimore. True, you can sit outside in Paris and drink little cups of coffee, but why this is more stylish than sitting inside and drinking large glasses of whiskey I don't know. PJ O'Rourke

Kiss French. Drink Californian.

206 Mich-again  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:34:31pm

re: #180 pegcity

America for the most part is color blind

For the most part? hmm. I don't know if "color blind" is the right adjective. I say we all still see the color, but either respect or disrespect people based on what they say/do regardless of their color. Thats the dream anyway.

207 pat  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:34:38pm

Oprah always looks undesirable to me. But I am sure she is a good customer and likely friend.

208 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:34:43pm

re: #200 Cheeseland

re: #180 pegcity

Wasn't Oprah locked out of some shop in Paris because the doorman thought she looked like an undesireable.

Hermes

I can just imagine that in the US, oprah would say one word on television and they would be kaput.

Don't mess with Oprah

209 bikermailman  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:34:53pm

re: #195 savage_nation

re: #182 jaunte


re: #172 savage_nation

Keep em away from Chavez, he doesn't need any more recruits.


I'd like to see some jihadis saw Hugo's head off to be honest

Would that it were, but they're buds...allies, anyways. Each will use the other so long as they have a common enemy. Guess whooo?

210 sixoh1  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:35:05pm
re: #191 karmic_inquisitor

re: #178 sixoh1

Raises an interesting thought... if the police used ultraviolet paint in the paint-balls and then shoot the agitators or suspected agitators while filming, then bright and early 8am when the rioters are gettin sleepy go round 'em up. If they claim to be innocent shine the black light on 'em and voila, c'est ici, le proof.

This would be a fantastic way to keep from making mayrters of the rioters, shooting them only makes more rioters, locking them up and shaming them with their peers and parents, thats more effective with children.

Naaah.

They'd claim they were at EuroDisney and the hand stamp guy at the exit went nutso on them and painted them with the invisible ink.

/

Hrmm - it could backfire - the kids might start rioting just so they can skip having to pay cover at the bars... and to get a really bitchen' black-light tatoo.

211 bikermailman  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:35:48pm

re: #198 pegcity

re: #194 WayDownSouthInBama


re: #144 Cicero05

So is the French military on strike? Why doesn't Sarkozy use them?

This riot will be worse than the last,and the next one worse than this one. Talk will do nothing against a hate filled group of thugs out to maim,kill,and destroy. When it reaches a point that these terrorists,and that's exactly what they are, have to pay the price for their actions,only then will some sense of normalcy be restored.
Sarkozy has a chance to show some backbone and treat these thugs like the terrorists they are. If he doesn't,he will have the blood of innocent people on his hands very,very soon. Sarkozy needs to take whatever steps necessary to gain control of this situation and maintain that control.

Can you say Quagmire?

They already have the cut and run part down... e.g. no-go zones.

212 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:35:49pm
213 redc1c4  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:35:55pm

re: #200 Cheeseland

re: #180 pegcity

Wasn't Oprah locked out of some shop in Paris because the doorman thought she looked like an undesireable.

probably a pastry shop... %-)

/snark

214 Ashamed to be Dutch  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:36:11pm

re: #124 Pawn of the Oppressor

I hereby appoint myself acting Secretary of State, and my first act will be to cut a deal with France.

Missieur Sarkozy,

I offer France the service of two of our Marine divisions. I ask only for Alizee in exchange.

Vive Le France, and God Bless her perfect little derriere,

-S.o.S. (Acting) PoTO

HOW can you, in the US, know about that lolita ?

215 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:36:23pm
216 kmclay  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:36:25pm

Don't paint ball me, freres!

217 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:37:00pm

FYI:

"Intifada" translates to "shake off (the filth)".

Thus, "you keep using this word but I don't think it means what you think it means".

I've said it before but I will say it again. I do not believe we further "our cause" by constantly using their terminology. Its as if it is 1930 and to be wise we are calling Jews; rats, and the Germans; "Superior Aryans".

By using the term "Intifada" we are acknowledging that those who are doing the rioting and chaos are actually "shaking off the filth". Thus admitting that their cause is rightous and that there is "filth" to be shaken off.

Same when we use the word "Jihad", and "Martyr", etc.

218 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:37:14pm

re: #212 savage_nation

re: #209 bikermailman

re: #195 savage_nation

re: #182 jaunte


re: #172 savage_nationKeep em away from Chavez, he doesn't need any more recruits.


I'd like to see some jihadis saw Hugo's head off to be honest

Would that it were, but they're buds...allies, anyways. Each will use the other so long as they have a common enemy. Guess whooo?

The Amish?

The Colombians?

219 tsionguy  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:37:37pm

re: #215 song_and_dance_man

Touche´

220 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:37:39pm

re: #206 Mich-again

re: #180 pegcity


America for the most part is color blind

For the most part? hmm. I don't know if "color blind" is the right adjective. I say we all still see the color, but either respect or disrespect people based on what they say/do regardless of their color. Thats the dream anyway.

Im just saying you don't here about High ranking black politicians in France, or fortune 500 ceo's. Or movie stars.

221 sixoh1  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:37:48pm

re: #216 kmclay

Don't paint ball me, freres!

Ow that hurt! Don't make me laugh bro.

222 DesertSage  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:37:55pm

Great cheese comes from happy cows.
Happy cows live in California.

223 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:38:03pm
224 Zimriel  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:39:58pm

Lolita? Mlle Jacotey is 23, hardly a lolita.

225 bikermailman  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:40:01pm

re: #212 savage_nation

re: #209 bikermailman


re: #195 savage_nation

re: #182 jaunte

re: #172 savage_nationKeep em away from Chavez, he doesn't need any more recruits.

I'd like to see some jihadis saw Hugo's head off to be honest

Would that it were, but they're buds...allies, anyways. Each will use the other so long as they have a common enemy. Guess whooo?

The Amish?

You got it!

226 solomonpanting  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:40:04pm

re: #202 Zimriel

French scientists and mathematicians have been pretty amazing at calculus and physics, and at moving the world toward Enlightenment in general. It's their politicians who suck.

Along those mathematics lines, don't forget the French curves.

227 Cicero05  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:40:28pm

re: #215 song_and_dance_man

Google "french victories" and then pick I'm Feeling Lucky and you get this.

That's hilarious.

228 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:40:40pm

re: #215 song_and_dance_man

Google "french victories" and then pick I'm Feeling Lucky and you get this.

From the link:

"Algerian Rebellion
Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux."

...Algerian rebellion moved north across the Med to the Banlieues; continues today, assisted by Moroccan and mixed North African irregulars.

229 Ojoe  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:40:55pm

Somewhere in French history...

a precedent, something useful, let me think ...

Cluseaux Code Panther, pink codex, huh, ?

Corsica.

Short guy.

Whiff of something.

It's there somewhere...

230 Irene NYC  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:41:17pm

If they're smart, those who were paintballed will be brought before a judge and, if not citizens of France, immediately deported. Isn't that what Sarkozy said he'd do, if memory serves?

231 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:41:34pm
232 dry_heavz_4_alla  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:42:12pm

re: #215 song_and_dance_man

Google "french victories" and then pick I'm Feeling Lucky and you get this.

Damn that's hilarious ! I actually fell for it until I noticed the address :b

233 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:42:59pm
234 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:43:06pm

re: #232 dry_heavz_4_alla

re: #215 song_and_dance_man


Google "french victories" and then pick I'm Feeling Lucky and you get this.

Damn that's hilarious ! I actually fell for it until I noticed the address :b

No that's what happens, try it yourself, i just did , comes up with the same thing

235 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:43:09pm
236 Ashamed to be Dutch  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:43:11pm

re: #223 savage_nation

HOW can you, in the US, know about that lolita ?

Hot babes transcend all national boundaries.

In Europe it was almost considered as pedophile to watch her clips ;-))

237 tsionguy  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:43:22pm

re: #222 DesertSage

Great cheese comes from happy cows.
Happy cows live in California.

but french cows have that certain Je N'Cest Qua
[Link: www.pbase.com...]

238 Render  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:44:48pm

re: #214 Ashamed to be Dutch

Queen of the gaming world. All gamers know about her...

STOP
THAT!,
R

239 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:45:13pm
240 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:45:45pm

re: #214 Ashamed to be Dutch

re: #124 Pawn of the Oppressor


I hereby appoint myself acting Secretary of State, and my first act will be to cut a deal with France.

Missieur Sarkozy,

I offer France the service of two of our Marine divisions. I ask only for Alizee in exchange.

Vive Le France, and God Bless her perfect little derriere,

-S.o.S. (Acting) PoTO


HOW can you, in the US, know about that lolita ?

Electronic globalization! Hang out on the internet long enough, and you find out who all the babes are in every country.

If Michaelangelo had been into girls, I think he'd have sculpted her behind. France should declare her butt a national treasure, entitled to "cultural protection" and an insurance policy at Lloyd's of London.

241 dry_heavz_4_alla  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:46:24pm

re: #234 pegcity

re: #232 dry_heavz_4_alla


re: #215 song_and_dance_man

Google "french victories" and then pick I'm Feeling Lucky and you get this.

Damn that's hilarious ! I actually fell for it until I noticed the address :b

No that's what happens, try it yourself, i just did , comes up with the same thing

Interesting. I wonder how albinoblacksheep managed to get that directed to their site?

242 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:46:51pm

re: #102 AZfederalist

#84:

But what about the carbon footprint of these riots? Shouldn't the left be incensed? I mean, how many Hummers would it take to equal the carbon output from the flames of a single burning car?

/Save the world! Stop the rioters!

But they're destroying those evil cars... so the net carbon footprint will be very, very low in the long run...

243 Irene NYC  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:47:00pm

re: #204 UncleSam

The police should be issued machine guns and allowed to fire at will.
Screw this pussyfooting crap.

Yo, Uncle Sam! You smartin' from small balls or somethin'? Take your faux Rambo fantasies some other place.

244 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:47:20pm

re: #240 Pawn of the Oppressor

This may be why the youts are rioting. The Alizees of France wouldn't spare them a look, and that doesn't fit well with their imagined place in the Universe.

245 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:48:06pm

re: #243 Irene NYC

re: #204 UncleSam


The police should be issued machine guns and allowed to fire at will.
Screw this pussyfooting crap.

Yo, Uncle Sam! You smartin' from small balls or somethin'? Take your faux Rambo fantasies some other place.

Yea...outright murder...and mayhem...wooo whooo!
-IDIOT!

246 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:48:35pm
247 Cheeseland  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:48:50pm

re: #231 savage_nation

re: #222 DesertSage


Great cheese comes from happy cows.
Happy cows live in California.

Wait, I'm in Wisconsin right now. Lots of happy cows here too.

The 1964 Worlds Fair Cheese Pavilion is over in Neillsville. There's a radio station that broadcasts from that building.

Then there is the best cheese.

248 DesertSage  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:49:59pm

re: #231 savage_nation

Wait, I'm in Wisconsin right now. Lots of happy cows here too.

They're not going to be so happy in a couple months.

249 Irene NYC  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:50:23pm

re: #246 savage_nation

Hey savage, I'm perfectly fine. Why are you telling me to calm down?

250 shanec99  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:50:37pm

A typical Muslim community in the west has:
Significant sympathy and provides financial support for murderers (honor killers, suicide bombers etc) and hijackers.
A significant portion of its population that justifies and advocates the murder of Jews and Christians.
Celebrates car-be-ques and destruction of state and individual property property.
Accepts violence against women as an appropriate response to a domestic disagreement.

Yet we say that these communities are home to the religion of peace. Ironic isn't it?

251 meMarc  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:50:50pm

You don't think he'll try to blame Chappaquiddick on Bush, do you?

Kennedy Memoirs Said to Fetch $8 Million.

...Mr. Kennedy, who will work with a co-writer, is expected to write candidly about his personal history, including the 1969 Chappaquiddick accident in which he drove a car off a bridge on Martha’s Vineyard, resulting in the death of Mary Jo Kopechne, a former member of Senator Robert F. Kennedy’s staff. He will also write about his unsuccessful bid for the presidency.

252 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:50:54pm
253 bikermailman  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:51:05pm

re: #233 savage_nation

re: #227 Cicero05


re: #215 song_and_dance_man

Google "french victories" and then pick I'm Feeling Lucky and you get this.

That's hilarious.

I just blew coffee all over the place

Did you follow the link where it asked if you wanted french defeats? That was really good too.

254 victor_yugo  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:51:13pm

What stopped the riots after the Rodney King verdict?

Let's have more of the same.

255 Ashamed to be Dutch  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:51:23pm

re: #239 savage_nation

re: #236 Ashamed to be Dutch

re: #223 savage_nation

HOW can you, in the US, know about that lolita ?
Hot babes transcend all national boundaries.

In Europe it was almost considered as pedophile to watch her clips ;-))

You're kidding. Shes just a cutie that sings. And shes in her twenties so I can't see the problem...

I don't see a problem, just funny. Here she's considered as "music for kids" ;-)
Seven years ago (she may have been around 15 at the time) when she made a hit, but since 7 years no one heard about her in Europe...

256 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:51:54pm

re: #250 shanec99

A typical Muslim community in the west has:
Significant sympathy and provides financial support for murderers (honor killers, suicide bombers etc) and hijackers.
A significant portion of its population that justifies and advocates the murder of Jews and Christians.
Celebrates car-be-ques and destruction of state and individual property property.
Accepts violence against women as an appropriate response to a domestic disagreement.

Yet we say that these communities are home to the religion of peace. Ironic isn't it?

It is ironic, almost as ironic as so called peace activists supporting terrorists

257 Zimriel  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:51:57pm

#244 - If the authorities had let me riot every time some PYT ignored me, this city would have been a desert by my 23nd birthday. Just sayin'. ;^)

My understanding of Michelangelo is that he preferred the, um, "other" kind of young behind.

258 pat  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:51:57pm

Best cheese comes from Britain, IMHO. And I eat a lot of it.

259 Ojoe  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:51:58pm

re: #229 Ojoe

I thought these grapes were good,
but these grapes are shot

260 Pawn of the Oppressor  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:53:00pm

re: #244 jaunte

re: #240 Pawn of the Oppressor

This may be why the youts are rioting. The Alizees of France wouldn't spare them a look, and that doesn't fit well with their imagined place in the Universe.

Indeed. French booty should be their booty... Or something.

The French love intellectual exercises, so I'd like to propose something to them.

Theorem: Alizee's behind is proof that God exists, and that furthermore - paraphrasing America's most famous Francophile - "he loves us and wants us to be happy".

I challenge the intellectual heavyweights of France to expound on this topic at length. I propose to them, furthermore, that Alizee's cute little behind proves that Islam is wrong, for God would not create such a thing just to have it buried under a potato sack.

261 Ashamed to be Dutch  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:53:50pm

re: #243 Irene NYC

re: #204 UncleSam


The police should be issued machine guns and allowed to fire at will.
Screw this pussyfooting crap.

Yo, Uncle Sam! You smartin' from small balls or somethin'? Take your faux Rambo fantasies some other place.

Well said Irene !

262 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:53:52pm
263 Ojoe  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:53:52pm

re: #260 Pawn of the Oppressor

Dolly Parton is also proof of the existence of God, IMHO.

264 Ojoe  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:54:35pm

re: #259 Ojoe

These shot grapes, only good for throwing...

265 Pelayo  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:54:37pm

France has undoubtedly great historical achievements in the spheres of art, science, philosophy and culture, and interestingly has never been in a war against the USA, but rather was on the American side in the revolutionary war and the two world wars (though the contribution in the latter is obviously stained by the fact that France was split between a Free French resistance and the Vichy regime which collaborated.)

The real problem is the Gaullist legacy in which the French establishment cultivated a obnoxious form of nationalism that tended to be anti-American. You see it from De Gaulle to Chirac. Fortunately Sarkozy seems to have adopted a strongly pro-American position so hopefully the tide has turned., and given France's influence in Europe this may have a broad impact.

At all events no one should take delight in the thought of France and the French being on the receiving end of a domestic intifada or being taken over by militant Islamists not least because this would be harmful to the interests of America and of the West broadly.

266 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:54:37pm
267 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:56:14pm
268 leepro  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:56:20pm

2 OT's

Funny headline:
Canada border agency vows improvements after death

Bush has COMPLETELY lost it!

Bush welcomes Gore to White House for talks on climate
269 daverx  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:56:21pm

I wonder what would happen if the average Frenchman knew what the average family in the US has in terms of disposable income, comforts, and security. If they were allowed to know how badly their elite governing class has screwed up by playing around with fascism, communism, and every other -ism, under the guise of the most advanced democratic principles on Earth, but really only to preserve their privileges, you know what I think would happen?

I think there would be another French Revolution, tout suit!

If the Euros actually knew how America has been misrepresented to them in order to hide the failed performance of their own governments, the merde would hit the fan!

270 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:56:41pm
271 shanec99  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:56:43pm

re: #254 victor_yugo

What stopped the riots after the Rodney King verdict?

Let's have more of the same.

I think it was after ole Rodney asked: "can't we all just get along?" Think that will work with the youts... give it a try.

272 Ojoe  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:56:43pm

re: #264 Ojoe

Take a whiff of these grapes!

They're shot.

These grapes are shot.

273 Ojoe  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:57:32pm

Oh well, good night.

274 victor_yugo  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:57:51pm

re: #269 daverx

If the Euros actually knew how America has been misrepresented to them in order to hide the failed performance of their own governments, the merde would hit the fan!

Teh Intarweb?

275 Cheeseland  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:58:41pm

re: #266 savage_nation

Maybe they just ran out of the Hilmar label.

276 Sour Grapes  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:58:58pm

What's all this talk about grapes?

277 shanec99  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:59:21pm

re: #256 pegcity

The only peace that left wing peace activists want is the American Constitution ripped to pieces.

Well peace... pieces... close enough for those moon bats.

278 Syrah  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:59:25pm

re: #145 stevieray

The point I was trying to make is this: The non-Muslim world has to stop relying on temporary measures and eventual riot exhaustion as answers to these explosions. Those are short-term stopgaps that lead to bigger problems down the road... they are not solutions.

I am in agreement with you, with a caveat.

The problem is getting more unstable as time goes on. Worse, there are elements on the sidelines that may jump in and knock this thing way out of control if this riot is not squelched quickly and decisively.

One of these days, and this may be that day so to speak, these riots are going to transition from unrest, to full blown revolution.

The appropriate way for the French to resolve the problem and bring the banlieues back under control is to engage in swift and harsh law enforcement.

The rioters should fear for their freedom and for their lives while engaging in this type of unrest. They do not. They have contempt for the Law, and the French have given them every reason to be contemptuous. From the rioter's present viewpoint, this is a win win situation for them.

The Rioters also know from past events that they could even be rewarded with a plaque or monument given to them in their honor for their intifada heroics.

The best solution here would be for France to crack down vigorously and aggressively on these thugs. The Rioters have to be made to believe that rioting against their host country is the last thing that they would want to do.

Can the French do it?

I have my doubts.

I hope they can.

Watching that video of the police riot line retreating was sickening.

Timing is a problem here.

With the neo-Nazi elements in Europe on the rise, we approach the danger point where we could find our selves watching running battles with the followers of Le Pen against the denizens of the banlieues. That would be a nightmare situation which could blow this whole thing up into total disaster for all of us.

If a little fowl weather were to help them regain control of the streets for the moment, and give Europe time to stomp on the Nazi elements that threaten to derail everything that the counter-jihad movement should be about, then I am for it.

279 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 9:59:40pm

re: #269 daverx

I hope you would be right, but you might be underestimating people's ability (especially the French) to take pride in whatever they have just because it's theirs. "They're failed, corrupt and silly politicians, but the are fellow Frenchmen!"

280 Ojoe  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:00:37pm

re: #278 Syrah

Les Whiff ™

281 Neo Con since 9-11  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:01:03pm

If these are mostly Muslim protesters, perhaps filling up a fire truck with alcohol and spraying them would be more use then those stupid paint balls.

282 Ashamed to be Dutch  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:01:06pm

For Alizee fans... (will remove in 10 minutes)

login : lgf
pass : lgf

283 RTLM  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:02:18pm

OT - Buckle up for next round of Dubai Ports-esque brewhaha.

Citi Sells Stake to Abu Dhabi Fund

The cash from the sovereign investment fund of the Gulf Arab state, which has been a beneficiary of this year's surge in oil prices, will be convertible into no more than 4.9 percent of Citigroup Inc.'s equity. Citigroup characterized the investment as passive and said the fund will not be able to name any board members to the bank.

The Investment Authority would become one of Citi's largest shareholders.

284 Ojoe  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:02:24pm

Napoleon—grapes

285 victor_yugo  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:02:26pm

re: #271 shanec99

I think it was after ole Rodney asked: "can't we all just get along?" Think that will work with the youts... give it a try.

Not really.

It wasn't the LAPD that stopped the riots; Darryl Gates (I think) ordered the troops to retreat when the heat got to be too much. "To protect and serve"? Riiight.

No, it was ordinary citizens deciding to protect their lives and personal property, as permitted under our Second Amendment. When the rioters suddenly realized that their actions could get them killed legally, it subsided REAL fast.

286 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:03:09pm
287 Ojoe  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:03:47pm

re: #286 song_and_dance_man

LOL.

Goodnight all

288 Render  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:04:03pm

re: #282 Ashamed to be Dutch

LESS
TROUBLE,
R

289 Zimriel  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:04:26pm

As a sequel to my list of French mathematicians, I figured I'd be fair and provide a list of Algerian Muslim mathematicians:
...
...
...(!)
...
...
...

Say what you will about the French, their culture is superior to that of certain others I'm too polite to mention.

290 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:04:32pm

re: #285 victor_yugo

Is there an analogue for LA's armed Korean shopkeepers and shotgun toting neighborhood watches in France?

291 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:04:42pm

re: #268 leepro

re: Bush.

its like accepting Jesus on your death bed.

292 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:05:03pm
293 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:05:30pm

re: #290 jaunte

right that and the fact that if they had made it out of their 'hoods, the cops would have opened fire on them.

294 DesertSage  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:05:33pm
295 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:05:44pm
296 Irene NYC  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:07:52pm

This is what Sarkozy had to say when he was Interior Minister.


Sarkozy orders deportation of foreign rioters

PARIS, Nov 9 (AFP) - Interior minister Nicolas Sarkozy on Wednesday issued orders for non-French rioters convicted in the wave of urban violence to be deported -- a measure directed at youths of Arab and African background living in the high-immigrant neighbourhoods involved in the unrest.

Sarkozy told prefects, or regional governors, to apply the order to foreigners including those who have valid French residency visas.

He told parliament that "120 foreigners, not all of whom are here illegally, have been convicted" of taking part in the nightly rampages that have occurred since October 27.

"I have asked the prefects to deport them from our national territory without delay, including those who have a residency visa," he said.

I don't think as President he'll be any less tough.

297 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:07:54pm
298 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:07:55pm
299 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:09:12pm

re: #298 savage_nation

re: #294 DesertSage


What's snow?

lol

Come to Winnipeg Ill show ya

300 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:09:25pm

#214 Ashamed to be Dutch,

HOW can you, in the US, know about that lolita ?

How old is this little tart?

I feel like a letch just looking at that picture.

301 Yankee Division Son  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:10:16pm

Those darn french 'youths'... geez... France needs to allow more Muslim immigrants so these youths will relax. It's the religion of peace, so it's sure to quiet things down.

302 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:10:51pm
303 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:11:06pm
304 stevieray  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:11:36pm

Are their any adults left in Europe? Anywhere in Europe?

"School students must stop rioting"

THE HAGUE – Schools students must stop rioting. State secretary for education Marja van Bijsterveldt feels she has given into students enough by relaxing the requirement for how many hours students must spend in class each year.

As they say, read the rest. [short article]

These days, the world works backwards... if I can use the word "works" so loosely.

Riot = Get Stuff

Gee... wonder why they do it.

305 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:11:55pm
306 LEGION  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:11:57pm

re: #65 Pawn of the Oppressor

re: #2 Mich-again

Are they firing rockets into Paris yet?

They're saving the RPGs for Mosque day.

I say we send in Snake Plisskin. 2008's first slow-season 1st quarter hit movie will be John Carpenter's "Escape from Paris".


Snake? I thought he was dead? Say I just saw Kurt in "Death Proof"- he turned out to be a sissy woosy at the end getting beat up and killed by girlies. That's the way fffrance is going. Shessh- the whole western world. Addicted to oil, that's what happens- listen to those wacko enviromental terrorists and not drill for our own in our own country and you die the coward fools slow death. *Deep Sigh*

307 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:12:20pm
308 victor_yugo  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:12:33pm

re: #302 song_and_dance_man

re: #300 Ringo the Gringo

How old is this little tart?

I feel like a letch just looking at that picture.

Fashion Police Alert. One stocking is lower than the other.

And you're just the one to fix it, right?

309 Cheeseland  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:12:41pm

re: #300 Ringo the Gringo

#214 Ashamed to be Dutch,


HOW can you, in the US, know about that lolita ?

How old is this little tart?

I feel like a letch just looking at that picture.

Wikipedia says she was born in 1984.

310 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:12:45pm

re: #304 stevieray

Are their any adults left in Europe? Anywhere in Europe?

"School students must stop rioting"


THE HAGUE – Schools students must stop rioting. State secretary for education Marja van Bijsterveldt feels she has given into students enough by relaxing the requirement for how many hours students must spend in class each year.

As they say, read the rest. [short article]

These days, the world works backwards... if I can use the word "works" so loosely.

Riot = Get Stuff

Gee... wonder why they do it.

France couldn't raise the price of bus tickets or stamps without people rioting

311 Ashamed to be Dutch  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:13:10pm

re: #297 song_and_dance_man

re: #288 Render

re: #282 Ashamed to be Dutch

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

LESS
TROUBLE,
R

Is she in the French Navy?

She may find a good job in the navy... But as far I'm concerned I'm ashamed (again) to have her music in my iTunes library... ;-))

312 Syrah  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:13:33pm

re: #280 Ojoe

I sorry Ojoe, I don't understand. Les Whiff?

313 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:13:57pm

re: #309 Cheeseland

She is older than I am.

314 tommygum  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:14:39pm

t what point do the French cops pass out the old MAT-49s. I'm sure they're locked up in a room there somewhere.

315 Rkrocket  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:14:55pm

Makes you wonder how long it will actually be until the riots become a revolution. Suppose they don't stop one day - they just keep growing. I wonder if the French would have the stomach to stop it all.

316 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:14:55pm
317 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:15:04pm
318 pat  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:15:38pm

Good butt never goes out of style.

319 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:15:42pm

In 1795, Bonaparte was serving in Paris when royalists and counter-revolutionaries organized an armed protest against the National Convention on 3 October. Bonaparte was given command of the improvised forces defending the Convention in the Tuileries Palace. He seized artillery pieces with the aid of a young cavalry officer, Joachim Murat, who later became his brother-in-law. He used the artillery the following day to repel the attackers. He later boasted that he had cleared the streets with a "whiff of grapeshot", although the fighting had been vicious throughout Paris.

320 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:15:47pm

re: #316 savage_nation

Anyone consider Belinda a tart?

That brings up old memories of the Saints Roller Rink

321 Render  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:16:18pm

Wiki sez Alizee is 23, married, one kid, and has a new album due out this year after a two year hiatus.

THAT
WAS
QUICK,
R

322 Ashamed to be Dutch  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:16:30pm

Ok guy's, I'm gonna leave you, bed time for the Dutch night owl.

Good evening and behave well Lizards... Don't let your Alizee phantasms ruin the reality ... ;-))

323 Killian Bundy  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:16:38pm

Clinton camp angry at rumours of lesbian affair with aide

The problem started with a report in the London Times on Thursday. 'Hillary Clinton has been accused of having an affair with Huma Abedin,' read the caption under a photograph of the two trouser-suited women (above left) striding across the tarmac to catch a plane. The next day, the Russian newspaper Pravda wrote a similar round-up which concluded: "Hillary and her aide, Huma Abedin, do live together at home and on the road, but the only way to nail Clinton would be to catch them together in a lesbian action."

/rumor?

324 DesertSage  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:16:53pm

Happy California cows can play football.

Which is more then I can say for any NFL teams in CA.

325 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:17:05pm
326 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:17:07pm

re: #321 Render

She likes how I brings it.

327 Render  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:17:41pm

re: #316 savage_nation

One of my favorite albums of all time...

Just don't tell my metal head friends.

SILENCE!
I KEEL YOU!,
R

328 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:17:44pm

re: #323 Killian Bundy

Clinton camp angry at rumours of lesbian affair with aide


The problem started with a report in the London Times on Thursday. 'Hillary Clinton has been accused of having an affair with Huma Abedin,' read the caption under a photograph of the two trouser-suited women (above left) striding across the tarmac to catch a plane. The next day, the Russian newspaper Pravda wrote a similar round-up which concluded: "Hillary and her aide, Huma Abedin, do live together at home and on the road, but the only way to nail Clinton would be to catch them together in a lesbian action."

/rumor?

Gross for Huma

329 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:18:01pm

re: #325 savage_nation

re: #320 pegcity


re: #316 savage_nation

Anyone consider Belinda a tart?

That brings up old memories of the Saints Roller Rink

Is that in Winnipeg?

Yup, how'd you know

330 Syrah  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:18:22pm

re: #319 jaunte

Thanks. I get it now.

331 stevieray  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:18:51pm

re: #278 Syrah

Ok. You clearly understand the problems. I thought you went over to the "inexplicable isolated incident" school of thinking.

We be cool!

With that, I gotta get some sleep. 'Night all.

332 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:19:33pm
333 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:20:04pm
334 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:20:10pm

re: #309 Cheeseland

Wikipedia says she was born in 1984.

23?...Alright, I don't feel like a letch any more... Now I feel like a dirty old codger...which is how I normally feel, so that's good.

335 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:20:39pm
336 pegcity  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:21:14pm

re: #332 savage_nation

It just won't stop, people were right BMW's are not good winter cars.

Why oh why did i buy all seasons

337 Render  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:22:05pm

re: #302 song_and_dance_man

You made me go back and look.

I confess I didn't notice the stockings at first glance...

WHO
SAID
THAT?,
R

338 Highrise  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:22:34pm

re: #249 Irene NYC

You were spot on.

339 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:22:44pm
340 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:23:20pm

Good news for America, bad news for Democrats...
Success Is Not an Option--I


Whoops! "As violence declines in Baghdad, the leading Democratic presidential candidates are undertaking a new and challenging balancing act on Iraq," the New York Times reports. Having bet against American success in the hope of benefiting from failure, they are now hedging, "acknowledging that success, trying to shift the focus to the lack of political progress there, and highlighting more domestic concerns like health care and the economy."

The trouble is, many Democratic voters still want America to lose in Iraq.

Heh.

341 victor_yugo  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:24:15pm

re: #339 savage_nation

At least Hil has good taste in women...

But the favor isn't exactly returned...

342 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:24:43pm
343 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:25:13pm
344 LEGION  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:25:41pm

re: #130 pegcity

re: #126 Carridine

re: #120 Mich-again

I can see that, Mich.

It takes some kind of attitude to WANT to be surrounded by people who belittle and despise you.

Sounds like any Jew in the Democratic party today

Joe Lieberman- one of my Senators- I held my nose and voted for him. Dodd the clod actually did good the other week in chastising Hill the Pill about the driver's licenses for illegals nonsense- only good thing he's ever done. He still dosen't want to make English the official US language- him (and Joe) sez it would be discriminatory. Phhhttt. See that story in Fox News online about the workers suing their former company because it required them to speak English only on the job? I predict we are going to have riots here in a few years like fffrance- mark my words.

345 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:25:52pm

re: #339 savage_nation

This sort of thing is lame (not you Savage just the questioning if Hill is having the nookie with this gal).

1st, who cares...yes, who cares.

2nd, who would think to ask if Obama was doing his male aids, or Giuliani? (he does like to cross dress)

This is just stupid nonsense that has nothing to do with her abilty to be POTUS.

Lastly, Hannity made a good point today on the radio (I remember because it doesn't happen alot with that shmuck), getting into this conversation publicly will only give her victim status, and help her get votes..."see the VRWC is after me, so you must help me fight them"...blah blah blah.

Sort of like "the boys are picking on me".

346 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:26:01pm

Creationism evolves...
Kentucky's Creation Museum expanding


Northern Kentucky's Creation Museum is evolving into a larger facility.

The museum will add 663 parking spaces, outdoor canopies and a maintenance building and will move its main entrance as part of a $500,000 upgrade, according to a report in The Kentucky Enquirer.

Kentucky is now a 1/2 million dollars dumber.

347 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:26:33pm

re: #313 WrathofG-d

re: #309 Cheeseland

She is older than I am.

You're younger than that little vixen?

348 leepro  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:26:52pm

re: #253 bikermailman

That is hilarious! This one... French Military History in a Nutshell ...is, too. It's sort of a tally of won/lost wars. One of them on the list says,

"French Revolution: Won, primarily due to the fact that the opponent was also French."
349 swamprat  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:26:54pm

re: #340 Killgore Trout

Good news for America, bad news for Democrats...
Success Is Not an Option--I



Whoops! "As violence declines in Baghdad, the leading Democratic presidential candidates are undertaking a new and challenging balancing act on Iraq," the New York Times reports. Having bet against American success in the hope of benefiting from failure, they are now hedging, "acknowledging that success, trying to shift the focus to the lack of political progress there, and highlighting more domestic concerns like health care and the economy."
The trouble is, many Democratic voters still want America to lose in Iraq.

Heh.


...It's not for their own personal quest for power. No. .. It's for what happens to be the best course for America...Yeah, ...that might work...

350 Last Mohican  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:27:34pm

re: #323 Killian Bundy

Clinton camp angry at rumours of lesbian affair with aide

The problem started with a report in the London Times on Thursday. 'Hillary Clinton has been accused of having an affair with Huma Abedin,' read the caption under a photograph of the two trouser-suited women (above left) striding across the tarmac to catch a plane. The next day, the Russian newspaper Pravda wrote a similar round-up which concluded: "Hillary and her aide, Huma Abedin, do live together at home and on the road, but the only way to nail Clinton would be to catch them together in a lesbian action."

/rumor?

Hey, ix-nay on the lesbian ex-say with the hot uslim-May! We're trying to keep that quiet until after Hillary wins the primary.

351 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:27:35pm

re: #347 Ringo the Gringo

People lie boss.

So...no!

or maybe...yes!

;0

352 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:27:53pm
353 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:29:34pm

re: #346 Killgore Trout

Creationism evolves...
Kentucky's Creation Museum expanding



Northern Kentucky's Creation Museum is evolving into a larger facility.The museum will add 663 parking spaces, outdoor canopies and a maintenance building and will move its main entrance as part of a $500,000 upgrade, according to a report in The Kentucky Enquirer.

Kentucky is now a 1/2 million dollars dumber.

When you have all of Creation to use as a Creation Museum, why do you need to add parking spaces and move the main entrance?
"Come inside out of Creation, so you can see It!"

354 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:30:15pm

The Goracle cures anxiety and enlarges penises ...
Another inconvenient truth: Al Gore's Web site hacked


A blog set up to promote former U.S. Vice President Al Gore's film, "An Inconvenient Truth," has been hacked and is hosting links to Web sites hawking online pharmaceuticals.
Other stories on this topic

The links appear to have been created as part of a scheme to boost the Web traffic for sites that promote the drugs, security experts said Monday. They contain titles such as "Xanax On Line," "Viagra," and "Buy Valium Online."

355 swamprat  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:30:31pm

In bed with the enemy...embed with the enemy

356 Neo Con since 9-11  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:30:36pm

re: #345 WrathofG-d

I don't care if she's having an affair with another woman. However, if she thinks she needs to keep it a secret, she becomes an easy target for blackmail.

357 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:31:20pm
358 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:33:13pm

re: #353 jaunte


When you have all of Creation to use as a Creation Museum, why do you need to add parking spaces and move the main entrance?


Pave paradise and put up a parking lot

359 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:34:12pm
360 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:34:18pm

From Best of the Web, WSJ:

Nice to Know They Died Someplace Pretty

"Pakistan Says Killed 30 Militants in Scenic Valley"--headline, Reuters, Nov. 25
[Link: www.reuters.com...]

Talibanized Buddha, Swat Valley PK
[Link: www.flickr.com...]

more valley shots
[Link: www.flickr.com...]

361 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:34:37pm

re: #352 savage_nation

I agree. Her being a lesbian or not being a lesbian (excluding the moral/family values as POTUS issue) is not really one of them.

There are so many reasons why she would be a bad POTUS that we don't need to get into this nonsense of her being with Huma (or whatever her name is)

Personally, I'd stick with the fact that she is a multi-millionaire, who hangs with multi-billionairs, that wants to stick her hands into the pockets of thousandairs to pay for programs noone is choosing to pay for on their own. She and her friends should fund the things they want to fund with their own dimes...and leave us poor, hardworking folk alone!

362 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:35:10pm

re: #357 song_and_dance_man

Don't be sore that no atheist museums have sprung up. You guys have the halls of academia or at least a large space in their union hall.

I'm not sore. We have pretty much every natural history museum on earth.

363 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:35:26pm

re: #356 Neo Con since 9/11

You don't think she is so tightly wound, and full of secrets already?

364 Highrise  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:35:37pm

re: #356 Neo Con since 9/11

re: #345 WrathofG-d

I don't care if she's having an affair with another woman. However, if she thinks she needs to keep it a secret, she becomes an easy target for blackmail.


yeppers!

secrets = bad for gov't officials no matter how you look at it

365 Irene NYC  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:35:46pm

re: #350 Last Mohican

Oh yeah. I think the American public will love to see ower-pay omen-way ashaying-say ogether-tay ike-may hey-tay o-day ot-nay eed-nay en-may!

/Maybe they're holding back that pix of the two of them with Ellen DeGeneres for after the primaries?
;)

366 swamprat  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:36:06pm

re: #353 jaunte

It is not being built. It is randomly falling together in a mathematically improbable, (but not totally impossible), fashion. There is no architect. Only piecemeal fragments that happen to fall together in a building-like manner!

367 Render  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:36:11pm

re: #342 song_and_dance_man

What can I say? I'm from the...

GENERATION,
R

368 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:36:13pm
369 leepro  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:36:15pm

re: #294 DesertSage

Shit!

Can't even scroll through LGF without commercials these days!

370 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:36:53pm

re: #359 song_and_dance_man

She really had a great voice. It's a very cute and endearing performance too.

371 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:38:12pm
372 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:38:56pm

re: #366 swamprat

re: #353 jaunte

It is not being built. It is randomly falling together in a mathematically improbable, (but not totally impossible), fashion. There is no architect. Only piecemeal fragments that happen to fall together in a building-like manner!

Now you're thinking of Frank Gehry...
[Link: www.greatbuildings.com...]

373 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:39:23pm
374 LEGION  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:40:24pm

re: #180 pegcity

re: #173 Mich-again

re: #133 karmic_inquisitor


Europe likes to preach to America about the need for America to be more welcoming, civilized and tolerant in order to purge itself of its obvious racism. Europe ought to look to America to try to understand how to bring people from all corners of the globe to one place and have it function as a cohesive, productive and law abiding whole.


That most excellent paragraph sums it all up so well. Thank you for that.

America for the most part is color blind, Oprah winfree is the most powerful celebrity in the US who commands an army of Minions of every race creed and gender. I can't see that in France.


---
Oprah got torqued off at a high class shop in France closing its doors on her and her posse because they thought she was one of "them" trying to come in and rip the store off. (Gangs of Muslim North Africans). Actually that happens here also- NYC / LA ect.

375 GreenSoccer  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:40:56pm

Well Europe was so judgmental about how Israel reacted. Maybe we'll sit back and they can give all of us lessons on the "better" way to deal with it. How about giving portions of France away, definitely has to include parts of Paris. Maybe we should turn Paris over to the UN and they can administer it. Let's see, pull down the Chartres Cathedral and put up a mosque. How about the French police and French taxpayers arming the boys. It isn't fair that they have to fight with stones while the police have advanced weapons. The boys should have tanks and machine guns.

376 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:41:08pm

We're all at the main entrance of Creation. Keep going toward the light! :)

377 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:41:22pm

When I think of French butts there are none that can compare to the butt of Le Petomane, the great French master farter.

One of the overlooked giants of early 20th century entertainment.

378 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:42:09pm
379 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:42:17pm
380 Clemente  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:42:49pm

re: #353 jaunte

When you have all of Creation to use as a Creation Museum, why do you need to add parking spaces and move the main entrance?
"Come inside out of Creation, so you can see It!"

Exactly. The best natural evidences of the Creator's supernatural glory aren't written in our pale testaments, nor risen in our vulgar monuments. They're found in His creations - the universe without and our souls within.

381 victor_yugo  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:43:18pm

re: #344 LEGION

He still doesn't want to make English the official US language

For our government to step up and say "English only in our nation" would be a mistake. Yes, there is great benefit to learning "English as she is spoke", and any business can mandate "English only," but to make English-only the law of the U.S. land would create yet another government bureaucracy, analogous to the Royal Academy of the Castilian Language or the French anti-anglophone agency (whatever it's called).

IIRC, the Framers debated a pro-English language clause in the Constitution, but decided against it and let history take its course.

382 leepro  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:44:03pm

re: #302 song_and_dance_man

re: #300 Ringo the Gringo

#214 Ashamed to be Dutch,

HOW can you, in the US, know about that lolita ?

How old is this little tart?

I feel like a letch just looking at that picture.

Fashion Police Alert. One stocking is lower than the other.

Attn: LIZARDS

S&DM wants us all to believe he's looking at her knees!

383 GregInSeattle  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:44:28pm
384 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:44:58pm
385 redc1c4  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:45:09pm

what the French need is a couple of Texans like this.

386 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:45:23pm

re: #373 song_and_dance_man

There's nothing more refreshing than an honest yet contrary true believer.


Honest? You overestimate me.

387 pat  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:45:34pm

Judge who insists that the Flying Imams were cool (no doubt wanting her kids to fly with this multi-cultural prayer group) is picking up some flack. Really?
[Link: www.wnd.com...]
People really think she is shtoopid!

388 Highrise  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:45:51pm

I don't want to see rioting and it does need to be dealt with swiftly but two comments in this thread deal with bringing out machine guns on the public...

I'm not sure if those people realize, Charles typically deletes comments like those...and has banned people for them.

Just sayin.

389 Killian Bundy  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:46:09pm

150,000 watch North Korean factory boss executed for 'making international calls'

A North Korean factory boss accused of making international phone calls was executed by a firing squad in front of 150,000 people, it emerged today.

The manager was gunned down in a sports stadium in South Pyongan province after authorities claimed he'd installed 13 in a basement to reach the outside world, the Good Friends aid agency revealed.

And six people were also crushed to death and 34 others injured in an apparent stampede as they left after the execution, it was claimed.

/what a country

390 Render  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:46:30pm

re: #379 song_and_dance_man

I beg to differ!

It was Lita Ford and the Runaways.

FAVORITES,
R

391 swamprat  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:46:56pm

re: #371 savage_nation
I don't really worry about that, or about what people do with their genitalia for entertainment. And mongering this rumor about does no one any good. But I truthfully am concerned about outside influence- sexual or,more likely, otherwise. There is a little bagage on her aquintance. This sort of thing is done all over. I have often wondered if Monica wasn't "placed" by forces unknown to both parties. These things weren't invented by "leCarre",you know.

392 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:47:14pm

re: #380 Clemente

re: #353 jaunte

When you have all of Creation to use as a Creation Museum, why do you need to add parking spaces and move the main entrance?
"Come inside out of Creation, so you can see It!"

Exactly. The best natural evidences of the Creator's supernatural glory aren't written in our pale testaments, nor risen in our vulgar monuments. They're found in His creations - the universe without and our souls within.

Thanks, I did not explain it as eloquently, but that's it.
I hope they have a link to the Hubble telescope in their museum.

393 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:47:32pm
394 Render  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:48:02pm

re: #389 Killian Bundy

"installed 13"

Is that anything like comment #17?

RED PILL
BLUE PILL,
R

395 GregInSeattle  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:49:37pm

Is the US encouraging massive Muslim immigration?

It's not the race, there are a lot of great Christian Ethiopians in Seattle. It's the religion.

396 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:50:19pm
397 victor_yugo  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:50:39pm

re: #395 GregInSeattle

Is the US encouraging massive Muslim immigration?

It's not the race, there are a lot of great Christian Ethiopians in Seattle. It's the religion.

How many times must I repeat it:

Islam is a race.

To the bottom.

398 Neo Con since 9-11  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:51:16pm

re: #363 WrathofG-d

I think she already has more than enough secrets. One more won't make her less susceptible to black mail. Even worse we all remember what Bill was willing to do to cover up his secrets. If Hillary is worried about her secret coming out she's likely to do something much worse than bomb an aspirin factory in Sudan.
I do agree with you that there are a lot better reasons not to vote for Hill. This is just one more to use if the others don't persuade.

399 swamprat  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:51:20pm

re: #379 song_and_dance_man

re: #367 Render

Joan Jet and The Runaways kick Blondie, The Go Go's and Hearts right stockings off kilter. IMO


electronic bagpiper

400 jaunte  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:51:26pm

Good night all. It's been riotous.

401 Clemente  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:52:37pm

re: #392 jaunte

re: #380 Clemente


I did not explain it as eloquently...


I credit you! - you brought my fingers to the keyboard!

402 WrathofG-d  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:52:39pm

re: #398 Neo Con since 9/11

eh...I like lesbians.

403 swamprat  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:52:52pm

re: #400 jaunte
me2..out

404 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:53:06pm
405 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:53:43pm
406 Neo Con since 9-11  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:55:13pm

re: #402 WrathofG-d

Heh. So do I and if we could find a qualified conservative one I'd vote for her in a heartbeat.

407 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:55:57pm
408 swamprat  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 10:56:23pm

re: #380 Clemente

re: #353 jaunte


When you have all of Creation to use as a Creation Museum, why do you need to add parking spaces and move the main entrance?
"Come inside out of Creation, so you can see It!"

Exactly. The best natural evidences of the Creator's supernatural glory aren't written in our pale testaments, nor risen in our vulgar monuments. They're found in His creations - the universe without and our souls within.

The spacious firmament on high,
with all the blue ethereal sky,
and spangled heavens, a shining frame,
their great Original proclaim.
The unwearied sun from day to day
does his Creator's power display;
and publishes to every land
the work of an almighty hand.

Soon as the evening shades prevail,
the moon takes up the wondrous tale,
and nightly to the listening earth
repeats the story of her birth:
whilst all the stars that round her burn,
and all the planets in their turn,
confirm the tidings, as they roll
and spread the truth from pole to pole.

What though in solemn silence all
move round the dark terrestrial ball?
What though no real voice nor sound
amid their radiant orbs be found?
In reason's ear they all rejoice,
and utter forth a glorious voice;
for ever singing as they shine,
"The hand that made us is divine."


tune---
Words: Joseph Addison, 1712

409 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:00:01pm

re: #405 song_and_dance_man


I don't know how to deal with an honest atheist.


Same way you deal with an honest Christian; trust but verify

410 redc1c4  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:03:53pm

re: #367 Render

What can I say? I'm from the...

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

GENERATION,
R

ah yes... music from when i was young and had a future. %-)

Blank Generation

411 leepro  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:04:29pm

re: #346 Killgore Trout

Creationism evolves...
Kentucky's Creation Museum expanding



Northern Kentucky's Creation Museum is evolving into a larger facility.The museum will add 663 parking spaces, outdoor canopies and a maintenance building and will move its main entrance as part of a $500,000 upgrade, according to a report in The Kentucky Enquirer.

Kentucky is now a 1/2 million dollars dumber.

FYI (from the article):
[my bold]

The controversial museum, which uses literal interpretations of the Bible to tell the earth's history, welcomed its 250,000th visitor five months after its opening on Memorial Day. The museum had expected to get 250,000 visitors its entire first year.

The larger-than-expected crowds left the facility with an overflowing parking lot, forcing staff to park miles away.

412 Render  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:04:53pm

re: #396 song_and_dance_man

It was both. Most of the leads were Lita's though.

EITHER
WAY,
R

413 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:05:32pm
414 Clemente  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:11:29pm

re: #408 swamprat

Soon as the evening shades prevail,
the moon takes up the wondrous tale
...

/Forgive this lizard relinking a slightly stale pic?

415 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:12:15pm
416 Render  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:12:59pm

First saw The Runaways open for The Ramones in '78, at The Cellar Door in DC.

SNUCK
IN,
R

417 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:12:59pm

re: #411 leepro

Yes, it's very popular. So is Dancing with the Stars and cheap plastic crap from Wal Mart. Have you listened to top 40 radio lately?

418 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:15:44pm
419 looking closely  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:16:23pm

re: #46 jcm

Solution is real simple if the French have the balls.

Impose a curfew.
Curfew zone is a free fire zone for the Gendarmes.

If the French had any balls, there wouldn't be a problem to begin with.

420 SeattleSE  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:18:30pm

re: #133 karmic_inquisitor


Here is the thing to note in all of this - the French are VERY nationalistic and expect the "etranger" (foreigner) to adapt to the French way in every detail. This is one reason why antisemitism has fertile ground there - many view Jews as intrinsically not French. French chauvinism is so entrenched that they have a common way of saying "that is not normal" by saying "c'est pas Catholique" (that's not Catholic).

In other words, the French are in no way multiculturalists.

[sic]

Europe likes to preach to America about the need for America to be more welcoming, civilized and tolerant in order to purge itself of its obvious racism. Europe ought to look to America to try to understand how to bring people from all corners of the globe to one place and have it function as a cohesive, productive and law abiding whole.

Exactly.

I recently watched the old Ken Burns PBS special on Thomas Jefferson where George Will asks: "What does it mean to be French?" His answer was that nobody really knows and that this is in contrast to America where being American means assenting to a set of core values.

It is possible to become an American because all you have to do is show up and assent whereas you can never really ever become French and this drives the attitudes of the native "French" toward foriegners.

It's a mess.

421 Killgore Trout  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:18:32pm

Tyler Durden rules!
This Is Your Life
You are not a beautiful and unique snowflake
You are the same decaying organic matter as everything else
We are all part of the same compost heap
We are the all singing, all dancing crap of the world

You are not your bank account
You are not the clothes you wear
You are not the contents of your wallet

You are not your bowel cancer
You are not your grand latte
You are not the car you drive
You are not your fucking khakis

/ g'nite y'all

422 LEGION  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:21:31pm

re: #381 victor_yugo

re: #344 LEGION
He still doesn't want to make English the official US language

For our government to step up and say "English only in our nation" would be a mistake. Yes, there is great benefit to learning "English as she is spoke", and any business can mandate "English only," but to make English-only the law of the U.S. land would create yet another government bureaucracy, analogous to the Royal Academy of the Castilian Language or the French anti-anglophone agency (whatever it's called).
IIRC, the Framers debated a pro-English language clause in the Constitution, but decided against it and let history take its course.


---
Ohhh I disagree big time. English is the language of success. It would destroy a goverment bureaucracy that is wasting time and money printing multiple forms. Aren't you tired of hearing press one for English?
Newt Gingrich said in 02/12/2007 that one of the most frequent complaints he hears when he's out traveling and speaking to groups is the lack of importance given to English as the language of success in the United States today. Whether it's the government's printing election ballots in other languages or bilingual education, Americans are concerned about the future of English as a unifying bond in our country.
Of course, don't expect to hear a lot of discussion of this topic in Washington. When was the last time you heard a politician talking about the fact that the Rasmussen poll reported that support for English as the official language was 85 percent? Or that the Zogby poll had it at 84 percent? With overwhelming public support like this, you would expect that promotion of English to be on the agenda of every elected official. But it's not. Instead, talking about English as a unifying bond -- and about learning English as the essential precondition for success in America -- is taboo. Why? Because the left labels anyone who talks about the importance of learning English as bigoted against immigrants.
Not 'English Only.' English First.
When the left and the elite media are done with it, any expression of support for emphasizing the importance of English is turned into a lack of support for welcoming new Americans. Those who support "English first" -- that is, those who believe that English should be the language of government, but other languages are perfectly fine in communities and commerce -- are portrayed routinely as supporters of "English only" -- that is, advocates of outlawing all languages other than English.

423 LEGION  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:25:49pm

But historically, nothing could be further from the truth. English is not and never has been the only language in America. My wife's grandmother came to the United States as a young woman speaking only Polish. She learned English quickly, but her children grew up speaking both Polish and English.
For much of our history, the U.S. has absorbed waves of immigrants by helping newcomers assimilate into our culture. After all, there's no such thing as a genetic U.S. citizen. To become an American means becoming an American in values, culture and historic understanding.
Our one nation under God grows and prospers by embracing and welcoming the newly arrived and helping them to adjust properly.
Most Americans support continuing this welcoming tradition. But to do so successfully, we have to ensure that English remains our language of government and public discourse. In fact, to be pro-English and pro-assimilation into American culture is to be pro-legal immigration. If we fail to properly assimilate newcomers into the United States, the American people won't long support continuing immigration.
Australia Switches From Multiculturalism to Citizenship
You don't have to look far to see other countries who have experimented with failing to assimilate their immigrants and lived to regret it.
The Canadian government is currently taking another look at its policy of allowing dual citizenship for immigrants.
In Australia, they recently renamed their Ministry for Immigration and Multicultural Affairs to the Ministry for Immigration and Citizenship. What's in a name change? Plenty. The change marks a shift by the Australians from a policy of government enforced multiculturalism -- encouraging immigrants to cluster in the same communities and schools and retain the culture of their old countries -- to a policy of assimilation. The reason for the change wasn't politics, it was profoundly practical. Their policy of multiculturalism had led to the creation of a closed and violent ghetto of Lebanese Muslims.
Instead of making Australia a more culturally rich and vibrant place, failing to assimilate new immigrants had the opposite effect and made the country a more violent place. Congratulations to the Howard government for having the courage to believe in their Australian cultural values and national identity.
English is the Language of American Success and Cultural Identity
We need a similar kind of courage here in America.
English is the language of American success and provides the basis for American cultural unity.
As a part of any comprehensive immigration reform, we should renew our commitment to our cultural values by teaching legal immigrants to speak and read the English language, educating them about U.S. citizenship based upon U.S. history and giving them an understanding of the Founding Fathers and the core values of American civilization. We should continue to encourage those who want to become U.S. citizens, but it is important that we grant citizenship to only those individuals who also want to embrace and assimilate into the culture of the United States.

424 Render  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:26:05pm

re: #413 savage_nation

All to well. They were pretty much the end of my punk phase. The Swazi Skins came with them...

We didn't get along to well with Ian (Straight Edge) MacKaye or Henry Garfield (Rollins) in those days either.

Props to 'em both now though, they've paid some dues.

THEN
SOME,
R

425 LEGION  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:26:17pm

Action Agenda to Promote the English Language
What can we do to make English the language of government and civic discourse? Three action items top the list:
1. President Bush should end multilingualism in federal documents. The requirement that federal documents be printed in different languages was created by executive order. President Bush should repeal this executive order.

2. Make English the language of U.S. citizenship. Return to English language ballots, to a focus on English language literacy as a prerequisite of citizenship, and to an insistence that U.S. dual citizens vote only in the United States and give up voting in their birth nations. These were principles widely understood and accepted for most of American history, and they enabled us to absorb millions of immigrants and assimilate them and their children into an American civilization.

3. Replace bilingual education with intensive English instruction. We should have a National Program for Intensive English Instruction that would provide highly intensive English and U.S. history and civics training for new immigrants so that they can have the practical skills to become successful U.S. citizens.
It's the Right Thing to Do.
We can be dramatically more successful in helping those who want to embrace American values and culture, and become citizens, to assimilate far more effectively. As we work to reform our immigration policies, especially citizenship reform measures, we must never lose sight of the self-evident truths affirmed at our founding. That we are all created equal -- citizen and non-citizen alike -- because we recognize that we are all endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights, among them life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
If we are to live out these truths, then we must recognize that every person has an inherent human dignity that must be respected. And that these truths morally bind us to create a workable immigration solution -- founded upon English as the official language of government and patriotic integration as the fundamental model of citizenship for new Americans.

Your friend,

Newt Gingrich

426 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:28:45pm

re: #178 sixoh1

re: #94 Noam Sayin'

re: #84 Killgore Trout

The police are using paint guns? Where there's your problem right there.

Raises an interesting thought... if the police used ultraviolet paint in the paint-balls and then shoot the agitators or suspected agitators while filming, then bright and early 8am when the rioters are gettin sleepy go round 'em up. If they claim to be innocent shine the black light on 'em and voila, c'est ici, le proof.

This would be a fantastic way to keep from making mayrters of the rioters, shooting them only makes more rioters, locking them up and shaming them with their peers and parents, thats more effective with children.


What I'd recommend using in these circumstances is paintball guns, the ammo for which contained a small amount of mustard gas along with the paint or dye. Mustard "gas" (a misnomer, since it's really a liquid at normal temperatures) is a vesicant, or blister-inducing agent. Think poison ivy, squared. Yutes shot with it would be forced to seek medical treatment to alleviate the pain, and if they got treatment, would suffer no long-term injury. The cops could simply round 'em up at the ERs. And if they chose not to seek medical help, they'd eventually get over it, but would endure a long bout of "negative reinforcement."

427 LEGION  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:29:52pm

English: The Vanishing Language- by Michael Reagan
Posted Aug 25, 2006

All across the U.S., hordes of immigrants -- legal and illegal -- are chattering away in their native language and have no intention of learning English -- the all-but-official language of the United States where they now live.

Can you blame them? They are being enabled by all those diversity fanatics to defy the age-old custom of immigrants to our shores who made it one of their first priorities to learn to speak English and to teach their offspring to do likewise.

It was a case of sink or swim. If you couldn’t speak English you couldn’t get by, go to school, get a job, or become a citizen and vote.

Nowadays we kowtow to demands that everything from ballots to official documents be presented in many native languages as well as in English.

The result? According to Census Bureau statistics reported in HUMAN EVENTS:
· In California, 42.3 percent of the people do not speak English at home. More than 28 percent speak Spanish instead. One in five Californians told the Census Bureau they speak English “less than very well.”
· In the city of Los Angeles, for example, 60.8 percent of the people do not speak English at home. Instead, more than 44 percent speak Spanish while 31.3 percent say they speak English “less than very well.”
· In the city of Santa Ana, a whopping 84.7 percent do not speak English at home while more than 75 percent speak Spanish instead, and 50.8 percent say they speak English “less than very well.”
· In Miami, Florida, 78.9 percent do not speak English at home, 69.8 percent speak Spanish instead, and 46.7 percent say they speak English “less than very well.”
· In Passaic, N.J., 72.7 percent of the people do not speak English at home, 62.9 percent speak Spanish instead, and 45.4 percent say they speak English “less than very well.”
· The 10 states with the greatest percentage of people five years and over who speak a language other than English at home are: 1. California: 42.3 percent; 2. New Mexico: 36.1 percent; 3. Texas: 33.6 percent; 4. New York: 28.2 percent; 5. Arizona: 27.4 percent; 5. (tie) New Jersey: 27.4 percent; 7. Nevada: 26.2 percent; 8. Florida: 25.4 percent; 9. Hawaii: 24 percent; 10. Illinois: 21.5 percent.
Where is all this leading? The other day I read a story headlined “Will English Survive Immigrant Flood?” As Pat Buchanan warns in his new book, “State of Emergency – Third World Invasion and Conquest of America,” if our language is gone, the conquest is complete.

What holds the country together is the commonality of language. When the Census Bureau released its American Community Survey they revealed that the U.S. continues to be inundated by a flood of immigrants, both legal and illegal. And the question this raises is are they learning out language, are they assimilating into our culture? The statistics cited above say the answer is a resounding “NO.”

Last year one in five people in Washington D.C. were immigrants, compared to one in six in 2000. According to The Washington Post, the city is one of eight U.S. metropolitan areas -- along with New York, Los Angeles, Miami, Chicago, San Francisco, Houston and Dallas -- that have at least a million immigrants each.

Shockingly, a large segment of this rising population of immigrants does not speak English at home and does not intend to.

Incredibly, while huge numbers of immigrants already here refuse to learn English, in other parts of the world people are learning English just so they can come here. As I heard last year in Kenya, the students there said that English is the language of business and to get ahead in this world you have to learn to speak it.

We are really enabling immigrants to avoid learning English and assimilating into our culture because we give them everything they need so they don’t have to learn to speak English or become part of the traditional melting pot.

428 JeremyR  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:29:52pm

re: #5 Macker

Why so Macker? because they haven't strung the Islamofascists up by their entrails?Maybe its time to bring back the Guillotine. The French should try to hang onto some of their traditions.

429 LEGION  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:31:14pm

By enabling these people, we build an enclave for them that looks just like what they ran away from at home, thereby preventing them from assimilating and becoming part of the American dream. English is the language of business and trade -- if you can’t speak it you can’t get out of the occupational ghetto and move up the ladder. You are stuck where you are.

Tragically, the answer to the question of English surviving the immigrant invasion is probably “no.” The English language is on its death bed, a victim of the enablers.
Mr. Reagan is a syndicated radio talk-show host, author of "Twice Adopted" (Broadman & Holman Publishers) and "The City on a Hill,"and the son of former President Ronald Reagan.
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Sorry didn't/couldn't link articles- just had this in a word document. Well you get the full monty.

430 leepro  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:32:40pm

re: #417 Killgore Trout

Jeez. Sorry, Trout. Must'a stepped on your toes.

When a business (or a state!) meets its financial projections in less than half the expected time period, it's a good thing. This makes them smarter, not dumber.

And no, I haven't listened to top 40 radio (whatever that has to do with it) since before you were born .

431 carridine  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:33:42pm

re: #425 LEGION

YES! All three steps lead BACK to a "Melting Pot" concept, Legion, and away from a "Multi-Culti Balkanization" hell-hole...

GOOD STUFF... now, how do we move forward on getting this implemented?

432 Clemente  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:35:25pm

re: #411 leepro

et al,

...a $500,000 upgrade...

and

The larger-than-expected crowds left the facility with an overflowing parking lot...

To the degree that an increase in tourism generates a corresponding increase in local tax revenue, I think splitting that increment between expanding the parking lot, and local civic improvements (playgrounds, anyone? libraries?) or better still, a local property tax CUT, is justified. But obviously, the museum ought first ask a larger donation of its visitors before impacting the host community.

433 Highrise  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:35:25pm

re: #381 victor_yugo

From what I have been told, English is mandatory for those who actually legally obtain citizenship.

I'm open to being wrong, but have seen enough links in the past linked here. I have no issue with those that want to hang onto their mother tongue from where they came, but when people come to America, they need to be prepared to melt in, that includes our language of English.

434 dmgold  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:40:45pm

Seen it all before. Starts with stones and a few molitove cocktails and quickly graduates to urban warfare. I expect to see suicide bombers(how you say in french) in the not too distant future. But it will be the french that made them do it. Wankers.

435 carridine  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:41:18pm

re: #433 Highrise

re: #381 victor_yugo

From what I have been told, English is mandatory for those who actually legally obtain citizenship.

I'm open to being wrong, but have seen enough links in the past linked here. I have no issue with those that want to hang onto their mother tongue from where they came, but when people come to America, they need to be prepared to melt in, that includes our language of English.

All this discussion makes me wonder: IF English is no longer used, and the Korean-Americans and Vietnamese-Americans and German-Americans speak ONLY their native tongue;

OR

America no longer uses English as the language of business, medicine, law, transport and finance, DOESN'T THAT MEAN that business, medicine, law, transport and finance GRIND TO A HALT?

436 LEGION  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:43:12pm

re: #431 carridine

Well the usual like I've been doing, contacting and communicating your concerns to your Senators and Congressman. There are also organizations to join such as 'English First'. There are others. I've heard commercials for one of them when listening to Rush and Sean and Mark Levin on 77 WABC radio. (You can get them online if you don't know already.) They gave out a website address also.
Any other ideas lizards? We can't start having riots like in fffraaance now can we? (See got back on topic!) We mustn't even march like the illegals did twice for rights they don't have! We are civilized! We are LIZARDS!
We also must get some sleep because we have a job interview tommorow because we must get bucks to pay the mortgage and the private school bills.

437 carridine  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:45:02pm

Tomorrow, Legion! Good luck!

/and good info. Thanks

438 Clemente  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:45:05pm

Its pastes words are legion!

/trying to read Mr. Dostoevsky and catch up... Nothin' there amiss, at a glance, but... dang... them's a lotta words.

439 GreenSoccer  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:52:52pm

re: #378 savage_nation

I'm not giving anything anyway. They've been writing the handbook since the Intifada.Just like they are working on the chapter having to do with legal intimidation and how many buttons they can push before the infidel screams here in the US.

440 GreenSoccer  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:54:22pm

Aterall they have been dealing with lines in the sand and camels pushing their noses into the tent, and throwing stones into wells, far longer than we have.

441 Orde  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:57:13pm

re: #346 Killgore Trout

Creationism evolves...
Kentucky's Creation Museum expanding



Northern Kentucky's Creation Museum is evolving into a larger facility.The museum will add 663 parking spaces, outdoor canopies and a maintenance building and will move its main entrance as part of a $500,000 upgrade, according to a report in The Kentucky Enquirer.

Kentucky is now a 1/2 million dollars dumber.

Is the museum you're talking about the same as this Creation Museum, described as "7 miles west of the Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport? Because if it is, then I don't know why you say Kentucky is a 1/2 million dollars dumber by allowing a larger parking lot, since it's not a state-funded museum, but the money for the museum has been raised by us AnswersInGenesis supporters from all over the United States, not just Kentucky, who've been contributing to the cause for several years, watching it be built bit by bit, despite the religiously fanatical opposition of evolutionists and pro-active atheists along the way. (Please do visit the AIG website and judge for yourself rather than from jumping on the Naked Emperor bandwagon as to whether the info is "dumb.")

442 Highrise  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:57:48pm

re: #435 carridine

America no longer uses English as the language of business, medicine, law, transport and finance, DOESN'T THAT MEAN that business, medicine, law, transport and finance GRIND TO A HALT?

Yep we would suffer. I think I've also seen a few pundits talking on news types shows that it is mandatory to learn english and civics before becoming an American as an immigrant.

Here is something I found about the naturalization process too:

Take the English and civics tests

443 GreenSoccer  Mon, Nov 26, 2007 11:57:55pm

Tonight Pat Buchanan was on Tv about a book that he wrote that sounds like a total ripoff from Michael Savage. Anyway Pat said that Bush has been operating with a messianic complex in his foreign policy.

Interesting how the media would rather dray on the subject of Natalie Holloway than report on France.

444 redc1c4  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 12:12:55am

re: #413 savage_nation

Remember FEAR?

i don't care about you... %-)

445 Orde  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 12:15:48am

re: #442 Highrise

Highrise, if you're still awake and here (I'm up with Condoleezza Derangement Syndrome yet again, grrr), where exactly are those tests? I clicked on the link but couldn't find them (perhaps my computer settings and add-ons are filtering them out, I'll try again). Thanks - Orde

446 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 12:22:53am

re: #441 Orde

Stupid is as stupid does.

447 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 12:27:08am

Good Morning Dead Thread!

I won't be here later so someone please make sure Loppy sees this.

Romney slams Bush for Annapolis

448 Highrise  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 12:27:14am

re: #441 Orde

Orde,

I was rather impressed with the Representative from that Museum when he came on and talked about it on Fox.

At some point in time, I plan on visiting it. Thanks for the information.

449 Highrise  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 12:38:30am

re: #445 Orde

re: #442 Highrise

Highrise, if you're still awake and here (I'm up with Condoleezza Derangement Syndrome yet again, grrr), where exactly are those tests? I clicked on the link but couldn't find them (perhaps my computer settings and add-ons are filtering them out, I'll try again). Thanks - Orde

I could not get the tests to work on that site as it makes you take a test to see if you can even go forward to apply and then it makes you sign up which is where I stopped hehe. I'm not sure if there is a copy on the net or not of the civics test they give. I notice there are a number of study guides. I think I read somewhere that it is a 2 hour test covering history of America and current events.

450 Orde  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 12:40:47am

re: #446 Killgore Trout

re: #441 Orde

Stupid is as stupid does.

Ow! Are you Darwin-thumping me? Are you saying that the museum organization (AIG) is doing something stupid and therefore is stupid? If so, what are they doing that is stupid? Or do you mean they are believing something stupid? In which case, merely asserting a belief is stupid does not persuade me, nor does the bandwagon most-scientists-think-creationism-is-stupid persuade me? (Most scientists used to believe the Earth was the center of the universe, too! ) Here's some relevant Walt Whitman on the intelligence of academia:

When I Heard the Learn'd Astronomer

When I heard the learn'd astronomer,
When the proofs, the figures, were ranged in columns before me,
When I was shown the charts and diagrams, to add, divide, and measure them,
When I sitting heard the astronomer where he lectured with much applause in the lecture-room,
How soon unaccountable I became tired and sick,
Till rising and gliding out I wander'd off by myself,
In the mystical moist night-air, and from time to time,
Look'd up in perfect silence at the stars.

451 Salem  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 12:42:26am

SEE!
The 7 Days of Creation Diorama!

SEE!
The Jesus vs. Darwin Laser Light Show!

SEE!
A FOUR-THOUSAND YEAR-OLD ROCK FROM THE GARDEN OF EDEN!

452 Orde  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 12:43:46am

re: #449 Highrise

Thanks anyway Highrise, but I probably would've flunked anyway--Killgore Trout's convinced me with overwhelming verbal argument that I'm stupid.

453 Orde  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 12:45:54am

re: #451 Salem

They should say "BEHOLD!" instead of "SEE!"

454 Salem  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 12:47:59am

re: #453 Orde

Ah, but of course!

455 Salem  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 12:51:22am
SEE!
The 7 Days of Creation Diorama!

Okay, okay, six and a day of rest...

456 Ledger1  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 12:51:50am

re: #34 Friend of USA

on another thread, # 13 ashamed to be Dutch provided links to youtube videos

I speak French, here is what I got

...

from the first video,

63 cars destroyed by fire,

the library, the treasury, two schools and a shopping mall damaged by fire

30 policemen wounded ( now 40 )

one policeman got a large caliber bullet in the shoulder

The situation is said to be worse than last night.

...

From the second video,

Police must escort and protect firefighters

the mediatech library has been completely destroyed by the, flames were over 30 feet high

the reporter says policemen are afraid because many gun shots have been fired at them by the "youths"

...

from the third video,

( we see a police car in flames )

a policeman has been shot in the knee

Journalists have been attacked


To outside observer, French authorities groveling to a crowd of “youths” ...is not the way to keep law and order. It would seem to only invite more aggression.

I am now convinced that appeasing taqiyya spreading thugs only breeds violence and injured French police officers.

The French police will continue to be pelted, burned, or otherwise taken off the streets and put into hospitals if they don't crack down hard.

If the French police continue to get the crap kicked out of them they will become fearful of guarding the average citizen. This is assuming that the French police are not already afraid of the “youths” armed with fire bombs and explosive items.

It is time for the French to read the riot act and crack the whip.

457 Highrise  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 12:57:14am

re: #452 Orde

Orde, I forget when the convo happened on here. Creationism came up in this one thread months back and I had mentioned I believed in it and was glad frankly that my biology teacher in highschool didn't go into it much but just to mention it existed if we wanted to read up on it.

Someone came into the thread and told me how stupid I was and that Evolution was a fact and I needed to just come to grips and get over it.

/chuckle

459 Highrise  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 1:02:56am

See you later Orde, heading out. Rest well.

460 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 1:06:28am

Morning dead threaders. Sorry I am late. ;) Real life threw one of those nasty wrenches at me tonight.

I see it's car-b-que season again.

/I'll take my hummer well done please.

461 Orde  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 1:08:45am

re: #457 Highrise

Wow, we're both stupid. I don't ever recall having any of my biology or science teachers/professors even mention even the existence of the theory of creationism--I just grew up assuming evolution was true, the vestigal organs, those pictures of similar-looking embryos of different species, the whole deal (and in grade school one teacher even still taught spontaneous generation!).

Hey, anyway, goodnight now (and to the atheist, too), I'm gonna go read myself to sleep or watch a DVD. (Oh, and speaking of night and being both Bible believers and Annapolis and its implications on my mind, I think it's so poetic that God has the Jewish days, both as seen in the creation week and as they are still numbered today, with the night coming first then the day second, instead of like our day-and-night order most follow.)

462 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 1:18:15am

Anyone good at Photoshop out there? I'm looking for a photo of Ehud Olmert as Neville Chamberlain.

463 straitcircle  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 1:21:05am

"40 French police were hurt "

Tough job. Maybe they should just outlaw the French form their own state, so things could calm down a bit. I’m sure Spain or Germany would love to accommodate them.

464 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 1:27:35am
465 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 1:28:28am

re: #463 straitcircle

"40 French police were hurt "

Tough job. Maybe they should just outlaw the French form their own state, so things could calm down a bit. I’m sure Spain or Germany would love to accommodate them.

Actually it's now up to 77 injured.

466 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 1:34:22am

The more I read about these yahoos in France the more I shake my head. Almost seems that they planned this. Police been shot at with rifles and guns now. Did this happen the last time?

/should we start arming for the end?

467 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 1:46:04am

Out of all the links I have posted/will post today, this is one of the two you cannot miss. Read it with your fruit cup in a few minutes!

US withholding reports that are critical of Abu Mazen's 'security forces'

468 Baconboy  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 1:53:56am

"Police replied with tear gas, rubber bullets and paint guns designed to identify troublemakers"

Hopefully they used green paint so as not to offend the 'youths'.

Presumably if f the gas, bullets and paint have missed, you can stand there throwing petrol bombs and rocks and not be a troublemaker.

469 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 1:55:26am

Carl,

Why bother serving fruitcup if everyone's just going to hurl afterwards?

:-(

470 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:00:02am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!

471 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:01:08am

Carl:

Your (and mine, and littleoldlady's) outrage has company:

"It is fitting Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice chose the U.S. Naval Academy for the venue of today's so-called Mideast peace conference. The reputation of that extraordinary institution in Annapolis has been sullied in recent years by a succession of rapes of young women.

Despite official efforts to low-ball its significance, Miss Rice's conclave is shaping up to be a gang-rape of a nation on a scale not seen since Munich in 1938, when the British and French allowed Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini to have their violent way with Czechoslovakia.

This time, the intended victim is Israel.

[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]

472 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:01:11am

Good Morning lol, thanks for the fruit cup.

/my early morning snack.

473 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:01:57am

LittleOldLady!

I have MISSED you!

Goodmorning to all!

474 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:02:03am

pink! :-)

I've missed you!

475 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:03:38am

6 seconds off...

/World's Slowest Typer™

LOL!

476 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:04:36am

re: #475 littleoldlady

6 seconds? It looks like 2 here.

/or am I missing something

477 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:04:39am

BlueCanuck! :-)

478 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:04:56am

re: #474 littleoldlady

Well, I have gone and exemped myself from my finals. I DID it!

As well acquainted as I am with this deflated feeling of the stress just melting away, it still surprises me.

I have missed my dead threaders!

479 chicagodudewhotrades  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:05:56am

I have spent some time looking at google earth at this french suburb and matching it up with some of the 'Zones Urbaines Sensibles" in the area. For the non-french speaking, ZUS are the areas where the French cops are afraid to go. A lot of high rises in those ZUS. No surprise. There are a total of 751 of these ZUS across France. Sure hope you all like car-b-ques, this could go on for a while.

480 friarstale  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:08:17am

hey, maybe these are the guys delivering Osama's Message to Europe

481 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:09:39am

re: #478 pink freud

Why not? You certainly have (and worked hard for) the grades to get a break. I am glad you have allowed yourself to "get out from under"!

Welcome back! :-)

482 Suzette  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:11:21am

littleoldlady! :)
Blue! :)

PINK! :) (haven't seen you around lately! lovely to see you)

chicagodudewhotrades! :)

salem! :) (if you're still out there)

CARL! :)

Good morning !

483 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:12:51am

re: #481 littleoldlady

/now if I could just storm Annapolis and wring some necks talk some sense into some people

484 Suzette  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:13:06am

Good morning ... friarstale! :)

485 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:13:57am

re: #482 Suzette

Well done, Suzette!

/'cept you forgot friarstale
//but it's very good to know if I drop dead later today somebody's ready to pick up the ball tomorrow.

;-)

486 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:14:40am

re: #471 pink freud

Carl:

Your (and mine, and littleoldlady's) outrage has company:

"It is fitting Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice chose the U.S. Naval Academy for the venue of today's so-called Mideast peace conference. The reputation of that extraordinary institution in Annapolis has been sullied in recent years by a succession of rapes of young women.

Despite official efforts to low-ball its significance, Miss Rice's conclave is shaping up to be a gang-rape of a nation on a scale not seen since Munich in 1938, when the British and French allowed Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini to have their violent way with Czechoslovakia.

This time, the intended victim is Israel.

[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]

I blogged that one this morning as well. That's why I wanted the photoshop of Olmert as Chamberlain upthread.

487 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:14:54am

re: #482 Suzette

Goodmorning Miss Suzette, you lovely southern belle yourself, you! (thats cajun-speak for the rest of you) ;-)

Nice to see you! I have been covered up (more cajun-speak) with wrapping up a semester. Good to be back!

488 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:15:19am

Suzette,

Heh™ :-)

489 Suzette  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:16:13am

re: #485 littleoldlady

Now don't ya be going talking like that Willis!

Yeah I am like clockwork and still up ! One day...I am hoping to be somewhat normal on the sleeping...one day...*sigh* (I am a dreamer)

490 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:16:36am

Good Morning Suzette, how's things going?

491 Suzette  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:17:22am

re: #487 pink freud

You did good I gather? (and hope)

492 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:18:06am

re: #469 littleoldlady

Carl,

Why bother serving fruitcup if everyone's just going to hurl afterwards?


Fresh, hot, chocolate covered nut sprinkled crispy cream filled donuts with 2 day old coffee with extra caffeine to settle that hot Jewish blood.

Annapolis Itinerary
Mr. Abbas will be our first speaker: The reasons why you must give us Jerusalem and Tel Aviv-
2nd-Mr. Olmert: We will give you Jerusalem but we must see the kidnapped soldiers before we can discuss Tel Aviv.-
3rd Mrs. Rice: America begs you have peace even if we have to move all the Jews to New York.-
4th Mr. Bush: I know where Jerusalem is but where the hell is Tel Aviv?- 5th Mrs. Rice,- Mr. President, I will show you Tel Aviv on the map after the meeting.-
6th Mr. Bush, somebody get me a map of Israel!
7th Mr. Adijihadiahad, Iranian delegation- All our maps of Israel have been burned.
8th. Hezebola- Here is a map of Israel with the borders marked in red..
All Jews will be allowed to live 5 miles off- shore.
9th. Mr. Bush, can Israelis swim?

493 Suzette  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:18:54am

re: #490 BlueCanuck

Can't complain...but if you are willing to pull up a chair...well...
(Just kidding!)
I'm doing all right and you Blue? Hope you are doing all right.

494 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:19:24am

I was actually thinking of driving down to Annapolis today.

Picture a littleoldJew standing around with some appropriate signage.

However, although I think I could scrounge up the gas money, I'm not sure I can make bail...

:-(

495 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:20:32am

re: #491 Suzette

Mais cher! 'Dis is me you talkin' to! A course ah done good!

/(I swear folks, I have a 4.0...)

/you can take the girl out of cajun land ...

496 Suzette  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:21:53am

re: #494 littleoldlady

I was actually thinking of driving down to Annapolis today.

Picture a littleoldJew standing around with some appropriate signage.

However, although I think I could scrounge up the gas money, I'm not sure I can make bail...

:-(

I will donate to the cause... (you have to be around for fruitcup time).
I think it is a complete a total outrage myself.

497 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:22:27am

re: #493 Suzette

Some time maybe I will have time to pull up a chair.

Things are going according to plan. Whose plan tho, I don't know. :)

498 Suzette  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:23:40am

re: #495 pink freud

Excellent! But then again I know that cajun girls are smart! Very smart!
Glad you did well :)
Now do you get break for a bit?

499 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:24:10am

Look at this with your mouth empty and your fruitcup far from your monitor.

Mr. Legacy

500 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:24:45am

BBIAW, work beckons with it's cold hands.

501 Suzette  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:25:36am

re: #497 BlueCanuck

Yes this is the same feeling I get too...everything is going 'as planned'.
But who's...?

If you find out let me know...there could be a link between the two plans.

502 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:25:49am

re: #494 littleoldlady

re: #498 Suzette

One month break, Suzette. This is when I do my spring cleaning. I love spring cleaning in the dead of winter.

/dead of winter = high sixties, perfect!

503 Suzette  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:28:08am

re: #502 pink freud

It must be a cajun thing ... because I have always done my spring cleaning in the winter. (For me not yet...but winter isn't over).
Mind is kinda of willing but body isn't giving...

504 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:28:24am

re: #502 pink freud

/dead of winter = high sixties, perfect!

Shaddup! :-(

/got a spare bedroom?

505 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:28:28am

re: #499 Carl in Jerusalem

My disgust-o-meter is redlined.

/the spectre of Olmert causes mass bile production. I am disgusted.

DISGUSTED.

506 Suzette  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:30:43am

re: #504 littleoldlady

re: #502 pink freud


/dead of winter = high sixties, perfect!

Shaddup! :-(

/got a spare bedroom?

I've got two spare rooms...but I am warning you the summers can be brutal down here... :)

507 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:31:45am

re: #504 littleoldlady

You are welcome in my home 24/7/365.

The tropicals are in full bloom. Crawfish season is almost upon us. I could give Emeril a run for his money.

Think about it. :-)

/i could always use help with the lower windows ...
/ducks!

508 Suzette  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:34:06am

re: #507 pink freud

Ooooh pink ... don't forget to tell her about the fresh shrimp too, oh and of course crabs!
Food down here is to say the least...outstanding!

Have you ever ate at Knotaway on River Road in White Castle ... to die for!

509 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:34:41am

I hate the cold. I'm headed to Florida...sooner or later. I hope. :-/

510 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:39:10am

re: #508 Suzette

I have not been to White Castle in at least twenty years. (although I hear there is some large airfield/distribution center planned for that area ...very high hopes from the locals to put their sweet little town on the map! Best to them.)

We've just opened our first Whole Foods market ...300 different cheeses? ...organic produce? ...turducken cooked in-store? Yes! I plan on being at the grand opening Saturday.

511 Suzette  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:42:12am

re: #510 pink freud

White Castle needs something like that...
I haven't been in at least 5 years. But would like to go again.

Glad to hear to hear about the Whole Foods market. Not even sure there is one around me.

How are things going with your house? Things settled down...no more problems?

512 Suzette  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:44:12am

Pink...

*please over look spelling and grammar errors...gremlins in my keyboard*
(well it couldn't possibly be me! ) :)

513 Confuzed  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:47:19am

France has 751 no-go areas, maps and street addresses published by the French government, here (only in French). In French, they're called Zones Urbaines Sensibles, or in English, Sensitive Urban Zones,

These are areas the police, ambulances and fire departments reportedly don't go because of "security" concerns (those peace-loving Mos).

Imagine any other country in the world where the authorities won't go because they don't control the places.

514 Suzette  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:48:53am

I have killed the dead thread... :(

Time for me to hit the bed.

Lovely talking to you pink (and congratulations)!

Lovely talking to you littleoldlady and blue! May you all have blessed and a peaceful day!

515 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:50:23am

'Night Suzette! :-)

I don't know about "blessed and peaceful". I'm trying to find time in my schedule for a nervous breakdown...

517 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:53:21am

re: #515 littleoldlady

Nite Suzette! (the house is fine!)

LittleOldLady:

I find that when I have to schedule one of those, it's best accomplished between 3:55 and 4 a.m. Just long enough to make me feel better, but it doesn't ruin my whole day. :-)

How's MNT?

518 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:57:28am

re: #517 pink freud

MNT is okay. Looking forward to the end of the semester. So am I.

519 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:59:01am

What if there's a nuclear war between Iran and Israel?

That's my last optimistic post for today.

/sarc

520 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:59:41am

re: #518 littleoldlady

A novel, disguised as a three-sentence post...

My novel is similar.

521 yochanan  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 2:59:54am

re: #110 Andrew_KJ

a friend of mine's brother was murdered in that riot.

the most racist place in america is any jail with a black population. It is not an accident that whites who were in jail offen end up in the kkk or other groups. They may not have been racists before they were in jail but the effect of black racism offen drives them in that direction.

522 cocodee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:03:14am

According to some french news, at least a policeman was injured by a bullet. 64 policemen injured, 5 in serious condition.

523 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:03:24am

re: #519 Carl in Jerusalem

Oh my goodness Carl.

Your blog is topnotch, first class. I will visit it more often. Thank you.

524 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:04:05am

re: #520 pink freud

GAH. An epic. Wish I had more time... :-(

525 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:07:41am

Good morning, Lizards.

526 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:07:46am

re: #524 littleoldlady

I know, I KNOW.

Who ever decided that they were capable of taking the reins at 18? She needs me now more than she has ever in the past, in many more complicated ways.

Son turned 18 last week. For some reason he seems perfectly content to stay close to the home fires. For this, I am eternally grateful.

/mom's home cooking? :-) (for boys, I sometimes think that's all it takes. They are so much simpler!)

527 Render  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:09:08am

My fellow Lizards, allow me to re-introduce Lawrence Auster. Some of you might remember him from here...

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

[Link: www.amnation.com...]

Mr. Auster is once again having a problem with veracity.

[Link: inverted-world.com...]

Having initially leaped to Jared (Samuel-Last Ditch website) Taylor’s defense, Mr. Auster found himself forced to admit that Taylor was, at the very least, a Holocaust denier. All this took place just seven months ago.

Come now Mr. Auster, are we’re expected to believe that after all this time, you did not know that about Jared Taylor already? You claim you broke all ties with Mr. Taylor in 1996, yet you still had an inside source to Mr. Taylor as recently as this year? Which is it?

[Link: inverted-world.com...]

You see, even after all of Mr. Auster’s claims of innocence regarding the extent and duration of his relationship with Jared Taylor, just last week Mr. Auster linked to the works of Jared Taylor on his own View From the Right website with little comment, beyond to confirm that he had heard Taylor’s little anecdote years prior.

[Link: www.amnation.com...]

Noting that Mr. Auster links directly to Taki Theodoracopulos’s stink hole of a website in order to...what exactly?

Why link to Taki’s website or Jared Taylor’s words at all Mr. Auster, if you’re not going to explain how abhorrent the racial political positions of both of them are?

Why post such a badly researched hit piece on Charles Johnson, in defense of Vlaams Belang and its neo-nazi leadership?

Did you not learn anything from the Amren Conferences, about what happens when you let the neo-nazi and White Pride people in the back door? Here it is a decade later and you’re holding that door open again.

Mr. Auster, do you know what Taki’s position on the Holocaust is?

Now that all this is out in the open, Mr. Auster, perhaps you could explain how all those non-White/non-Christian folks fit into your version of a counter-jihad movement?

All those Hindu’s, Buddhists, and of course, Jews, might be interested to know what you think their place in the Counter-Jihad is. Will there be room for the Catholics as well? How about the Atheist/Agnostic types, and the racially-mixed types, do they have a place? Will they all be segregated from the neo-nazi Holocaust denying White Christian types?

Have you figured out why the David Dukes, Don Blacks, and their followers, view you as “a useful Jew” yet, Mr. Auster?

How did it feel to be rebuked by both David Duke and David Horowitz in the same year?

These are all important questions Mr. Auster, they deserve answers. They demand answers.

MIRROR
BLACK,
R

528 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:09:35am

Goodmorning goddess!

/bad business in Annapolis

529 gettinby  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:12:11am

re: #509 littleoldlady

I hate the cold. I'm headed to Florida...sooner or later. I hope. :-/

When you win the Powerball.

/the "assumed closing." (learned in sales training)

And, you'll never have laundry again...just buy new clothes every Monday.

HELLO EVERYONE!

I see the same frikken depressing things are going on in the world today, as we left them last night.

/we no longer have "leaders" of our nations...only "egomaniacs."

530 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:13:48am

RENDER

Your sword is finely honed and your tenacity enviable. I have watched with admiration the blood trail, especially in the stale dead threads.

Keep up the good fight. We watch in silence, many of us.

531 BulgarWheat  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:13:49am

Good morning Lizardim. Just got up a few minutes ago...have they given Delaware to Syria overnight in Annapolis? Have we given the South West back to our neighbors to the south?

I can't even enjoy a nice french car-be-que anymore.

/I do like Sarko, so car-be-que's are less fun these days.

532 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:14:03am

re: #526 pink freud

I don't know from having boys but I hear it's much easier.

Chalking this whole college thing up to "a learning experience", I've learned that I either didn't do such a good job doing my job or she wasn't paying any attention as I was doing my job.

I think (or I hear from other moms) that somewhere down the road I will hear those golden words, "Mom, you were right". I just hope I live that long...

:-/

533 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:15:45am

re: #529 gettinby

gettinby! :-)

When you win the Powerball.

From your lips to G-d's ears...

534 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:16:52am

re: #529 gettinby

/we no longer have "leaders" of our nations...only "egomaniacs."

/narcissistic megalomaniacs

535 BulgarWheat  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:18:39am

#532 littleoldlady

Kids always have that revelation one day. Their parents "were" right. There's probably not a soul out there who hasn't been guilty of the same self-assured righteousness only to discover they were wrong.

My kids are still relatively young, 8 and 13. I was talking to a friend of mine last night on how to deal with the insane teen-years. He told me to communicate in very clear, crisp terms. Say what you mean. He also told me that he wishes he had said less.

536 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:18:51am

re: #532 littleoldlady

Hope springs eternal. I never thought the day would come. I hear it every time we talk. I am still floored.

/I woulda never thought it possible ...

537 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:19:02am

re: #528 pink freud

The real problem is that the Palestinians don't really want peace; they want the destruction of Israel. As much as I hate to say this, I can't see how there can be an agreement until Istael whoops the tar out of them so that they reassess their goals.

538 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:22:06am

re: #535 BulgarWheat

'Morning, Bulgar!

...the same self-assured righteousness

They need to be this way to get them through those years when they are bullet-proof. :-)

539 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:22:32am

This is my second must-read post of the day (the first one is upthread). You heard it here first. Again, please read this without any projectiles near your monitor:

Olmert will announce the division of Jerusalem today

Excuse me while I go puke again.

540 gettinby  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:23:04am

re: #530 pink freud

RENDER

Your sword is finely honed and your tenacity enviable. I have watched with admiration the blood trail, especially in the stale dead threads.

Keep up the good fight. We watch in silence, many of us.

re: #534 pink freud

re: #529 gettinby


/we no longer have "leaders" of our nations...only "egomaniacs."

/narcissistic megalomaniacs

Amen to both.


Congratulations on your accomplishment(s)!
Do you plan to teach or perhaps go into the private sector?

/PUHLEEZE don't go into the government sector. Would hate to lose you.
//if you know what I mean. ;)

541 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:23:16am

re: #535 BulgarWheat

8 and 13?

Bwahahahahaha!

I bet you still have hair. ;-)

542 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:24:58am

re: #539 Carl in Jerusalem

That does it. I'm outta here.

/my stomach can't take anymore...

*poof*

543 Render  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:25:22am

re: #530 pink freud

I see the pluses. They give me strength. I shall not falter nor relent.

GIVE ME
THE BALL,
R

544 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:27:25am

re: #537 goddessoftheclassroom

Agreed. They are the neighborhood bully; once he has tasted appeasement he thirsts for more and more. Once insatiable, a bone-crushing defeat is the only language he will understand. And respect.

545 JimmyTheClaw  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:31:09am

sean taylor died

546 3 wood  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:32:27am

Good Morning Lizards.

re: #532 littleoldlady

I don't know from having boys but I hear it's much easier.

Chalking this whole college thing up to "a learning experience", I've learned that I either didn't do such a good job doing my job or she wasn't paying any attention as I was doing my job.

I think (or I hear from other moms) that somewhere down the road I will hear those golden words, "Mom, you were right". I just hope I live that long...

Just do the best you can and trust God for the rest.

A friend of mine who raised both boys and girls says that boys are much easier. She said both lose their minds at about age 14. The difference is, boys will hole up behind their bedroom door, and if you can just slide the meals under the door they will come back out at about age 20 with their heads back on straight. Girls, she said, will come through the door after you and try to rip your lungs out through your nose, blaming you every second of the time.

Having 3 girls myself, I have some experience with the 2nd scenario.

547 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:32:30am
A woman believed to be the mother of a 2-year-old whose body was found in Galveston Bay told police she and the girl's stepfather beat and tortured the child to death, court documents show.

The details, in a statement Kimberly Dawn Trenor gave to police, paint a chilling picture of the last days of the girl investigators called "Baby Grace" as they worked for weeks to learn her identity.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

548 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:34:12am

re: #540 gettinby

Aww thanks, gettinby! :-)

No! No gub'mint job for me. ('sides, have you seen the incompetent nincompoop ASSWIPES running the place lately!?)

/Actually, what I would like is one sweet man to brighten my evenings, a bottle of Glenmoranghie on the sidebar, and a lot of straight and narrow adolescents and their grateful parents.

//not too much to ask for, IMO

549 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:34:50am

Youths again!...

VILLIERS-LE-BEL, France — Rampaging youths rioted overnight in Paris' suburbs, hurling Molotov cocktails and setting fire to dozens of cars. At least 77 officers were injured and officers were fired at, a senior police union official said Tuesday.

The violence was more intense that during three weeks of rioting in 2005, said the official, Patrice Ribeiro. Police were shot at and are facing "genuine urban guerillas with conventional weapons and hunting weapons."

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

550 3 wood  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:34:56am

re: #535 BulgarWheat

My kids are still relatively young, 8 and 13.

Just buckle in my friend. Things are going to get real interesting for you in a year or two.

551 gettinby  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:35:31am

Well, I'm going to go walk the Racerdog and pray for Israel.

I've emailed so many people about this at the White House and Congress that they're probably blocking me now.

Next up is President Bush dividing our southern border towns?

*spit* and *dammit anyway*

Later!


BenZ, if you're reading...how did things go yesterday? Prayers for you and Mrs. BenZ also.

Bye for now.

552 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:36:15am

re: #546 3 wood

LOL! True! So true! (especially the boy-part) Hahaha!

553 3 wood  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:37:41am

re: #545 JimmyTheClaw

sean taylor died

Oh Dear Lord.

Prayers and condolences to the family and friends.

Such a waste...

554 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:38:35am

Nite all. Best to you all.

/Miguel, if you're lurking in there, I hope all is well with you, my friend. Hope to see you soon, I have missed you!

555 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:39:30am
Iran says it has built new long-range missile


Iranian defense minister claims his country developed new missile with 2,000 km range, which could hit Israel

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

556 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:40:21am
557 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:41:05am

re: #545 JimmyTheClaw

sean taylor died

That's the Redskins player who was shot?

558 MigueldowninMexico  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:42:10am

re: #554 pink freud

Nite all. Best to you all.

/Miguel, if you're lurking in there, I hope all is well with you, my friend. Hope to see you soon, I have missed you!

Thanks a lot dear freud :)
I'm going to bed now, that's why I was just lurking lol
But your nice greeting needed an answer.
I'm ok and you seem to be doing ok too, at school ;) Good!
I missed you too dr freud lol

Ok got to go also.
Good night and God bless all :)

559 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:42:26am
Kennedy Memoirs Said to Fetch $8 Million

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

560 Tigger2005  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:43:33am

Stop the occupation of France by Frenchmen!

But seriously, the rioting is due to the youts frustration over the Israeli/Palestinian issue. Resolve that and the problems go away!
/s

561 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:45:13am
562 pink freud  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:45:28am

re: #559 storagemanager

Kennedy Memoirs Said to Fetch $8 Million

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Doesn't one have to remember shit in order to write a memoir?

/ok, now I'm going.
//nite Miguel!

563 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:45:56am
564 goddessoftheclassroom  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:46:03am

Israel will be at the top of my prayer list today. Take care, Lizards.

565 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:46:49am
Hamas can make the rockets it fires at Israel much deadlier by packing them with more explosives, a senior official in the Islamic militant group said in a statement Saturday.

The official, Ahmed Yousef, made the threat just two days before the start of a U.S.-hosted Middle East peace conference in Annapolis, Maryland.

Israeli officials have warned that Hamas may try to disrupt the conference with more intense rocket fire. Gaza militants, including Hamas members, have fired hundreds of crude, homemade rockets at Israeli border communities in recent years, killing 12 people and disrupting life along the border

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

566 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:49:55am

Little TB on the prairie..

Emporia, Kansas is a town located in the East Flint Hills about two hours equidistant from both Kansas City and Wichita. Tyson Foods has a major meat packing plant there with more than 2000 workers. Tyson transferred 400 Somali meat packers from its plant in North Fork, Nebraska to Emporia.

Problem is that Tyson may have inadvertently also transferred a highly contagious disease – active and latent TB - carried by these Somali workers into Emporia.

There was at least one Emporia death from TB reported in 2006. Screenings of Tyson Somali workers for TB by a local Community Health Center revealed a number of positive tests after skin testing and chest X-rays were taken. The Community Health Center actions were spotlighted in a recent Topeka Journal article. The Topeka Journal writer, Mike Shields, who is also on the staff of the Kansas Health Institute, did not include the death of a Tyson Foods Somali worker from a latent case of TB reported by the Emporia Gazette in January of this year. There was also something else revealed by State Representative Peg Mast of Lyon County. Did Tyson Foods cooperate on treatment of those positive TB cases developed from the local health center screenings following the death of the Somali worker? Somalis have cultural difficulties in taking medications of any sort. Thus, there is no assurance that contagious TB, whether latent or active in the group of screened Tyson workers has been eradicated.

[Link: blog.americancongressfortruth.com...]

567 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:51:54am

This one...will stay with me for day's...demons...


Riley Ann Sawyers, age two. Murdered by her mother and stepfather.

In a statement to police included in the affidavit, Trenor, 19, said she and Zeigler, 24, killed Riley July 24.
The girl was beaten with leather belts, had her head held underwater in a bathtub and then was thrown across a room, her head slamming into a tile floor, Trenor said in the document. She said they kept the body in a storage shed for one to two months before they put it in a plastic bin and dumped it into Galveston Bay.

[Link: mypetjawa.mu.nu...]

568 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:52:52am

Dang go away for a bit and everybody goes to bed :(

/well at least all the night owls.

569 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:54:46am

re: #566 storagemanager

I think that is terrifying. All that TB just lurking around getting stronger.

570 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:56:00am

re: #569 BlueCanuck

re: #566 storagemanager

I think that is terrifying. All that TB just lurking around getting stronger.

In the middle of the heartland...scary indeed.

571 Carl in Jerusalem  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:57:08am

Out of here for the next several hours.

Later...

572 JimmyTheClaw  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:58:11am

re: #557 Carl in Jerusalem

re: #545 JimmyTheClaw

sean taylor died

That's the Redskins player who was shot?

yep

/long time skins fan

573 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:58:13am
11 of a family 'killed'
BAGHDAD: An Iraqi journalist said yesterday that gunmen went on a killing spree in his Baghdad home, murdering seven children and four adult relatives, but Iraq's interior ministry denied the attack.

Dia Al Kawwaz, editor of website Shabeqat Akhbar Al Iraq (Network of Iraqi News), said militiamen sprayed his relatives with bullets after storming into his house on Sunday.

"Four gunmen entered my family house in Shab area. Two of my sisters, their husbands and seven children between five and 10 years old were killed," Kawwaz said.

However, interior ministry's director of operations, Major General Abdel Karim Khalaf, said he had no knowledge of the attack.

"This is a lie. Nothing like this has happened. If such a big crime happens, we always launch an investigation," Khalaf said.

Kawwaz, however, insisted the crime had indeed taken place and yesterday evening held a condolence service in Amman to mourn the deaths.

"I heard the news from my mother. The bodies were buried in Najaf," Kawwaz said.

The condolence service was held at the office of a charitable organisation.

Several Iraqi officials, including Sunni MPs, attended the service.

[Link: www.gulf-daily-news.com...]

574 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 3:58:57am

re: #570 storagemanager

re: #569 BlueCanuck


re: #566 storagemanager

I think that is terrifying. All that TB just lurking around getting stronger.


In the middle of the heartland...scary indeed.

Maybe the next pandemic won't be the dreaded bird flu but TB instead.

575 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:00:01am
He denounces it as the “Great Satan” and frequently dismisses its power, but the overtures of the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, to the US seem to grow ever more extravagant.
Having failed to win a response with an 18-page letter to President George Bush or to a request to visit the site of the September 11 2001 attack on New York, Ahmadinejad has offered himself as an observer in next year’s presidential election...
However, the terms of Ahmadinejad’s offer appeared to betray some confusion about the potential candidates.
“If the White House officials allow us to be present as an observer in their presidential election we will see whether people in their country are going to vote for them again or not,” he said. The US constitution prevents Bush from seeking a third consecutive term, while no member of his administration is expected to be in the running in next November’s poll.

[Link: hotair.com...]

576 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:02:31am
Stephen King suggests we waterboard Jenna
577 JamesTKirk  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:03:06am

re: #46 jcm

Solution is real simple if the French have the balls.

Impose a curfew.
Curfew zone is a free fire zone for the Gendarmes.

The yutes might be better armed.

578 TimeQuake  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:04:35am

re: #545 JimmyTheClaw

A loss for the 'Skins.

Prayers to his family.

579 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:04:45am
Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul, an underdog Texas congressman with a libertarian streak, has picked up an endorsement from a Nevada brothel owner.
Dennis Hof, owner of the Moonlite BunnyRanch near Carson City, said he was so impressed after hearing Paul at a campaign stop in Reno last week that he decided to raise money for him.
“I’ll get all the (working girls) together, and we can raise him some money,” Hof told the Reno Gazette-Journal. “I’ll put up a collection box outside the door. They can drop in $1, $5 contributions.”

Whores seem to be cheap...a dollar?
[Link: hotair.com...]

580 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:06:48am

I don't like the format at one Jerusalem.. [Link: www.onejerusalem.org...]

581 BenZacharia  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:07:16am

re: #551 gettinby

Just caught up with the thread. Things did not go as planned. 1 procedure skipped, a biopsy, and another stopped 1/2 way through as the risk of septic shock put her life in jeopardy. They are going to try again thursday.

She ain't happy with anyone, 'specilly me. Anyone got a couch I can crash on?

582 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:09:19am

re: #581 BenZacharia

re: #551 gettinby

Just caught up with the thread. Things did not go as planned. 1 procedure skipped, a biopsy, and another stopped 1/2 way through as the risk of septic shock put her life in jeopardy. They are going to try again thursday.

She ain't happy with anyone, 'specilly me. Anyone got a couch I can crash on?

Very sorry Ben...as always...prayers and thoughts.

583 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:10:19am

re: #539 Carl in Jerusalem

Carl, I honestly can't believe this. Screw the 'talks' if this is what Bush/Olmert's have in mind. Olmert could just have easily have the wall torn down the wall and order the IAF & IDF to disarm - it's essentially what they're announcing by ceremony.

And it's bullshit.

584 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:10:42am
Tanks on the Streets of Beirut as Crisis Deepens
Kuwaiti Times
Tanks rolled onto the streets of Beirut yesterday amid fears of unrest as a parliament session to elect a new president by a midnight deadline was postponed for a week, with political rivals deadlocked. Armored vehicles took up position on main avenues and crossroads, particularly around the downtown area where the opposition have been holding a mass sit-in outside government headquarters since last year...In scenes reminiscent of the 1975-1990 civil war, heavily armed soldiers sealed off roads leading to the parliament building in the city centre where MPs were due to convene at 1:00 pm to pick a successor to pro-Syrian President Emile Lahoud, whose term ends at midnight. However, parliament speaker Nabih Berri announced the postponement of the vote until next Friday when it became clear that no compromise could be reached...A number of prominent anti-Syrian figures have been killed in a wave of attacks over the past three years which many have blamed on Lebanon's former powerbrokers in Damascus...The pro-Western ruling coalition on Thursday had called on all MPs to attend Friday's parliament session but the opposition-backed by Syria and Iran-warned against any attempt to force through a vote. Four previous sessions in the last two months to pick a successor to Lahoud have been called off because of the standoff and Friday's session was expected to meet the same fate, several officials told AFP. Many ordinary people were staying indoors.

[Link: www.newmediajournal.us...]

585 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:12:04am
586 Jimmah  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:12:48am

European white power morons no doubt look on these scenes and think - 'now if only there could be a huge economic meltdown to acccompany this shit...then we might get somewhere'.

587 BenZacharia  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:13:08am

Carl,

At least by dividing J town we get to build the temple and a 7 year deal.

Dan 9:27 And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week; and for half of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the offering to cease; and upon the wing of detestable things shall be that which causeth appalment; and that until the extermination wholly determined be poured out upon that which causeth appalment.'

588 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:15:06am

Gee
I wonder how many socks the Trilogy of Local Dingbats, the Disgruntled Banned, the CAIR Whores and the White Power Freaks have taken during these last open registrations?

lol

cant wait to start seeing a lot of negative dings by posters we never heard of...

589 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:16:25am

re: #581 BenZacharia

oy.

I'll pray on this.

590 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:18:27am

I cant even speak on Israel I will start to scream.

What I want to write about it will get me banned.

However if I stop thinking with my secular head I calm down and I know why and what must come.
But it will be awful in the meantime.
Only those who endure to the end see the Kingdom.

Hold on to your bibles its gonna be a bumpy ride.

591 Tigger2005  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:18:33am

Um, Orde? Evolution IS a fact. There is far, for more evidence for evolution than what you picked up from old science textbooks and underqualified science teachers. Fossil evidence, DNA evidence, nested hierarchies, laboratory evidence, observations. Furthermore, other branches of science, such as cosmology and geology, also support evolution. Denying evolution is akin to denying that the Rather memos are fake.

There is no "science" or "theory" of creationism or intelligent design, because there is absolutely no evidence for these things.

It's funny that you joke about a teacher pushing spontaneous generation. While that's been disproven, how is it any stranger than creationism, which posits species just springing full-blown into existence from nothing?

Evolution-denial re: #461 Orde

re: #457 Highrise

Wow, we're both stupid. I don't ever recall having any of my biology or science teachers/professors even mention even the existence of the theory of creationism--I just grew up assuming evolution was true, the vestigal organs, those pictures of similar-looking embryos of different species, the whole deal (and in grade school one teacher even still taught spontaneous generation!).

Hey, anyway, goodnight now (and to the atheist, too), I'm gonna go read myself to sleep or watch a DVD. (Oh, and speaking of night and being both Bible believers and Annapolis and its implications on my mind, I think it's so poetic that God has the Jewish days, both as seen in the creation week and as they are still numbered today, with the night coming first then the day second, instead of like our day-and-night order most follow.)

592 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:20:18am

re: #579 storagemanager

Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul, an underdog Texas congressman with a libertarian streak, has picked up an endorsement from a Nevada brothel owner.
Dennis Hof, owner of the Moonlite BunnyRanch near Carson City, said he was so impressed after hearing Paul at a campaign stop in Reno last week that he decided to raise money for him.
“I’ll get all the (working girls) together, and we can raise him some money,” Hof told the Reno Gazette-Journal. “I’ll put up a collection box outside the door. They can drop in $1, $5 contributions.”

Whores seem to be cheap...a dollar?
[Link: hotair.com...]


Guess it gives whole new meaning to whoring for votes.

/ducks and covers.

593 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:20:33am

re: #591 Tigger2005

Evolution is a MECHANISM

not a CAUSE

it is that simple

594 BenZacharia  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:22:47am

re: #591 Tigger2005

Evolution IS a fact.

Then you will have to prob posting links to the EMPIRICAL science.

*pssst, Spontaneous generation is the basis for evolution, unless your Crick*.

*Directed Pan Spermia

595 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:26:33am

re: #590 BabbaZee

Hold on to your bibles its gonna be a bumpy ride.

Boy, you nailed that Babba. Real eff'in bumpy.

596 Onslow  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:28:34am
597 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:29:43am

re: #591 Tigger2005

There is no "science" or "theory" of creationism or intelligent design, because there is absolutely no evidence for these things.

that is bullshit, tell that to the scientists who proffered the theory in the first place.
SCIENTISTS not THEOLOGIANS.

Both evolution and ID have aspects of truth and tons of dogmatic bullshit put forth by breathless followers of both camps

ID in part convinced the worlds most respected Atheist Antony Flew that there is indeed a GOD

Most of your high brow intelligentsia atheists of the 20th century idolized him and credit him with their Atheism

Moohahahha!

Bullshit it is not

people talk a lot of bullshit AROUND it as they also do with evolution

you have to glean from both camps to see the truth of things IMO

No one faction has all the answers and IMO the two ideas are only mutually exclusive becasue of peoples rabid religious and political agendas.

598 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:31:16am

re: #595 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

I don't know how else to withstand it other than to count on GOD at this point.
If I had no faith I think I would be insane right now.

/ OKAY shaddup, peanut gallery... lol

599 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:33:50am
Public executions in North Korea, on decline since 2000, rose this year, the Chosun Ilbo reported Tuesday quoting a relief agency in Seoul.

Those executed included people who allegedly disobeyed the North Korean Workers' Party orders and others accused of murder and human trafficking, the report said.

Others who face the harshest punishment are those who violate the country's foreign currency regulations.

One accused was hit with 90 bullets as 150,000 residents and party officials watched in North Korea's Pyongan Province in October, Chosun Ilbo reported.

[Link: www.earthtimes.org...]

600 BlueCanuck  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:38:48am

Well I guess I will see everyone later. Keep your powder dry, and prayers loud.

/we may be needing both soon.

601 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:39:41am
What's racism? Well, I think a great example of it is what Director Marc Forster found when he was in Pakistan scouting locations for his movie, "The Kite Runner." Out at the end of December, I loved this very powerful movie. (He is also directing the next James Bond flick.)

He has the guts to say the un-PC stuff about the Pakistanis (that's "Pakis" to you, my friends at the Nazi-funded Media Matters for America) and their hatred for us. I think this sums it up about why President Bush is idiotic for ordering free elections in this outpost of Greater Barbaria:

I fly in to Islamabad, and we drive up to Peshawar. We have three cars. I'm in the middle car, and I have seven security guards -- all Special Forces. So I ask, 'What's up?' They say: 'Oh, this is going to be a whole different thing. It will be much more dangerous. There aren't many Westerners up north in that part of Pakistan. So we will wear traditional clothing and drive in these (pock-marked) cars, so as not to draw any attention.' So we're driving up there. I have two security guys with me in the back and two sitting in the front, plus the driver. We get there, and we go into the hotel, and they check the hotel and tell me where the escape route is -- how to get out in case something happens. Then we go out on the street and people realize that I'm white and a Westerner, and they just looked at me like they wanted me to die. Like 'You are the enemy, and you are evil.' It just freaked me out. It was beyond racism. It was pure hatred against the West."

[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]

602 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:40:38am

DNA

it is a code

holy SCIENCE acknowledges

it is written in a language

holy Science acknowledges

that code written in a language delivers instructions to the biological organism on how to "be" the organism it is coded to be

holy science acknowledges

WHO WROTE THE CODE?

603 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:43:31am

re: #602 BabbaZee

DNA


it is a code


holy SCIENCE acknowledges

it is written in a language


holy Science acknowledges

that code written in a language delivers instructions to the biological organism on how to "be" the organism it is coded to be


holy science acknowledges

WHO WROTE THE CODE?


The C.I.A.?

604 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:45:57am
605 jim in virginia  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:47:09am

re: #603 storagemanager

WHO WROTE THE CODE?

The Freemasons.

606 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:47:22am

re: #603 storagemanager
lol

607 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:47:44am

re: #605 jim in virginia

THE ILLUMINATI!

608 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:50:48am

If you are walking along a beach and you suddenly see a big heart carved into the sand that says
MARY LOVES JOHN in it
your nature assumption is an intelligent entity designed this thing and put it there, it was not created by the surf.

Why do you assume that?
Because it has language and delivers a message.

Why should your assessment change when looking at something millions of time more complex than JOHN LOVES MARY in a heart, DNA?

All of a sudden that thing happened organically? That means the surf wrote JOHN LOVES MARY too

Dig your own agenda.

And then look at it again.

609 BenZacharia  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:50:50am

BZ & stor...,

If ya really want to get freaky, throw in the function of the polymerase, mitochondrial (the other DNA), and recent devlopements with the epi-gemone (that they didn't even know if its' existance 10 years ago).

/Awaiting huge link dump on emprical (fact based) science of macro evolution.

610 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:51:45am

nature

natural

611 ec marm  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:51:51am

re: #602 BabbaZee

WHO WROTE THE CODE?


Not Barry Manilow, he wrote the songs.
This is so strange coincidence:

Sri Lankan President Due in Tehran Monday

TEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- Sri Lanka's President Mahinda Rajapaksa is due to pay a visit to Iran on Monday.

(FARS, trust me)
Wiki claims Sri Lanka has small muslim minority.
I was across the street from a Sri Lanka Church on Sunday (Philadelphia). About 50 cars in lot while service went on. Plates on cars from Georgia (2), Ohio, New Jersey, Virginia and a few other states. Seemed to be a Christian Church according to FIL. Quite a distance to travel.
Like I said above, strange coincidence.

612 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:54:51am
Some guy gets frustrated with kids speeding by his house so he builds a speed bump to surprise them as they race by

[Link: www.break.com...]

613 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:55:25am

re: #609 BenZacharia

I have no time to delve very deeply into this thing at the moment but before the Euroweenie White Power asses came and pissed in my cornflakes I was reading on the science of this

Behe, Schroeder and others I cant recall now would have to go dig back in that pile

I will get back to it eventually I hope, it is fascinating

614 littleoldlady  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:55:56am
Charles wrote the code.

/and I'm not here...

615 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:56:15am

re: #611 ec marm

hmmm coinkydink indeed

morning, good to see ya

616 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:56:28am

Fox has kicked Wiki's ass two days in a row.

617 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:56:42am

re: #614 littleoldlady

please we already have a faction that thinks he's GOD

lol

618 freedomplow  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:58:05am

Pakistan army 'retakes key peak'

Pakistani troops say they have recaptured a strategic mountain peak from militants in fighting in and around the north-western Swat Valley.

A radio station run by the pro-Taleban fighters has also been shut down.

619 JamesTKirk  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 4:58:06am

re: #586 Jimmah

European white power morons no doubt look on these scenes and think - 'now if only there could be a huge economic meltdown to acccompany this shit...then we might get somewhere'.

Isn't that what the Democrats in America are saying?

620 ec marm  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:01:10am

re: #615 BabbaZee

hmmm coinkydink indeed

morning, good to see ya


Good to see ya, too.
My radar is up. I didn't see any burka clad. But that's one hell of a distance to travel for a church service. Either a whole lotta faith and brotherhood in that community or somethin' else.

621 Daryl Herbert  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:01:22am

The code wrote itself!

That's more profound than any of your posts, BabbaZee. Even though it's a complete sentence and doesn't have any ellipsis.

622 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:03:04am

re: #608 BabbaZeeLaws of physics say that entropy (disorder) increases over time. Which flies in the face of the notion that DNA just kind of happened in the primordial soup. I've said it before, of all the crazy notions that people subscribe to about how we got here, the atheist version of creation is the kookiest one of them all.

623 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:04:21am

re: #620 ec marm

I'd go with somethin' else too

624 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:04:31am

re: #621 Daryl Herbert

Huh?

625 Hening  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:05:11am

Law and order is just so beneath the sophisticated senses of the French. What happens when people stop wanting to be police officers?

626 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:05:35am

re: #622 Mich-again

It is , and it takes a TON OF FAITH to believe that crap...
the so called "faithless" evince WAY more faith the the faithful IMO

627 ec marm  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:05:45am

re: #616 MandyManners

Fox has kicked Wiki's ass two days in a row.


Wiki is okay (imho) for a starting point of research, especially when sources are cited.
BTW: Before you describe your job title as 'fluffer' you might just want to take a lil peek at the Wiki definition. :~)

628 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:05:57am
The Jordanian Foreign Ministry has summoned the Iranian ambassador to Oman Tuesday, complaining of demonstrations held by Islamic students at the Jordanian embassy in Teheran.

The students rallied against Jordan’s participation in the Annapolis peace summit. Rocks were hurled at the Jordanian embassy building during this demonstration.

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

629 Owl  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:06:26am

Good Mornin' DT Lizards. Hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving!

Charles, where's that wish list for Christmas? I like to get everything bought and wrapped before the middle of Dec. You know, to avoid the rush. :)


And welcome to all the new hatchlings, trolls, and what-not. Hopefullym more Lizards than "what not', but I guess time will tell.

ltr lzrds.

630 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:06:31am

re: #621 Daryl Herbert

thirty posts and an axe to grind

so who the fuck are you

631 Owl  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:07:10am

Oh, and HAPPY ANNAPOLIS DAY!

/ ducks for cover...

632 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:07:12am

re: #624 MandyManners

gotta be a Hatey-Babba sock

there are tribes of these people out there

633 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:07:45am

re: #627 ec marm

Yeah, I've heard that. I'm also a folder. Call me an F2.

634 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:08:42am

re: #632 BabbaZee

They need a hobby.

635 Owl  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:08:53am

re: #633 MandyManners


You're an F2.

:p

636 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:08:56am

re: #627 ec marm

BTW: Before you describe your job title as 'fluffer' you might just want to take a lil peek at the Wiki definition. :~)

LOL!

637 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:09:11am

Gotta' go.

638 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:09:15am

re: #634 MandyManners

They think they have one.

639 JamesTKirk  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:09:27am

re: #625 Hening

Law and order is just so beneath the sophisticated senses of the French. What happens when people stop wanting to be police officers?

No danger of that happening, as long as the French government keeps giving them enough cushy job benefits. After all, the reason why the French police are having so much trouble fighting L'intifada is that the average French cop only works ten days a year.

640 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:09:42am

Ah, shit. Now, cut that out.

641 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:10:03am
Al Qaeda Pinky Swears to Be GoodSaudi royal family frees 1,500 'reformed' Al Qaeda on promise not to wage jihad — on the Arabian Peninsula, that is

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

642 JamesTKirk  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:10:16am

re: #627 ec marm

BTW: Before you describe your job title as 'fluffer' you might just want to take a lil peek at the Wiki definition. :~)

Yeah, I was questioning her job title yesterday, too.

643 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:11:20am

Good Morning on a foggy damp morning. 46 degrees in Chambodia, may get up to near 60. Haven't been out of the house in a couple of days and the kids are driving me crazy. Maybe this week I can drive again.

644 JamesTKirk  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:12:24am

re: #633 MandyManners

re: #627 ec marm

Yeah, I've heard that. I'm also a folder. Call me an F2.

Just as long as you don't get promoted to F3.

/Wiki has it out for you, don't they?

645 jim in virginia  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:13:05am

re: #617 BabbaZee


You disbelieve that Charles is god?
Infidel! Heretic!
Stone her.
(Everybody must get stoned.)
Time for me to act like I have work to do.

646 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:14:08am

OH kay
Daryl Herbert has an EVOLUTION axe to grind

which dovetails into having a Babba axe to grind I guess

647 ec marm  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:14:54am

re: #630 BabbaZee

re: #621 Daryl Herbert

thirty posts and an axe to grind

so who the fuck are you


Daryle Herbert is an anagram of:
dry herb later
Coincidence? I think not.
Tin Foil Hat Day.

648 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:15:45am
AngleofRepose said...
Ditto, R_U.

Honorable mention goes to Render. Complete scumbag.

Question, WTF is ATS?

*waves at storemanager*

11/26/2007 4:55 PM


Sarah said...
AtS = Across the Street, better known as GCP Watch.

Waves back. [Link: gatesofvienna.blogspot.com...]

649 JamesTKirk  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:16:07am

re: #645 jim in virginia

(Everybody must get stoned.)
Time for me to act like I have work to do.

Then you need one of these: Vodka in a Stapler!

650 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:16:19am

re: #645 jim in virginia

STONE THE UNFAITHFUL MONKEY


LOL

651 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:17:39am

re: #648 storagemanager

Angle of Repose posted very civilly at my blog and when he was proven wrong admitted it


When they are in a mob they sure speak differently

652 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:18:26am

re: #647 ec marm

ALL HIS DRY HERB LATER ARE BELONG TO US!

~ The Ganjahadeen

653 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:18:28am

re: #626 BabbaZee

re: #622 Mich-again

It is , and it takes a TON OF FAITH to believe that crap...
the so called "faithless" evince WAY more faith the the faithful IMO

I once compared the pursuit of trying to find other life forms in outer space as a very expensive Government sponsored form of religion. Like so what if there is a planet light years away inhabited by some other life form. What exactly does that do for us here?

654 JamesTKirk  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:19:45am

re: #653 Mich-again

The State does not sponsor anything that resembles religion.

So sayeth the Goracle!

/

655 BenZacharia  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:20:44am

TTFN™, gotta make up for yesterday.

/tigger2005, them thar links ain't agonna spontaneously* post themselves ya know if thats awhat ya be hopin' fer.

*"life happens", the first iteration of the now universally accepted "shit happens".

656 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:21:01am

re: #651 BabbaZee

re: #648 storagemanager

Angle of Repose posted very civilly at my blog and when he was proven wrong admitted it


When they are in a mob they sure speak differently

GoV is eating its own...the last thread is nothing but hate.

657 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:21:13am

re: #648 storagemanager

Honorable mention goes to Render.

Ha. Render is one of my favorite posters.

MUST BE
OVER THE
TARGET

658 hayseed  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:22:02am

creation where's the proof...I really like Ken Ham from AIG
great article

659 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:24:30am

re: #653 Mich-again
LOL~!

I like you.

I remember in grade school, I was in the 4th grade or so... they had given us an assignment to write a report on the "Space Program"
I got a honking F and my parents got called in on it.

I wrote that I thought it was a disgraceful huge waste of time and money unless it was all really all a cover for covert military ops and high tech secret weapons development.

I am suprised it took them to the 6th grade to boot me out of their school

LOL

660 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:25:33am

re: #656 storagemanager

I never read that kind of crap even when it is about me

I guess I should go ban Angle's IP from my place now though

sigh

661 BenZacharia  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:25:33am

If Rudy doesn't address this, I guess it's okay to assume he's going for the NAMBLA vote.


Since 2002, Msgr. Alan Placa has worked for Rudy Giuliani as a consultant at Giuliani Partners. In 2003 a grand jury report of Suffolk County, NY, accused Placa of sexually abusing multiple victims.

A spokeswoman for Giuliani Partners told Salon Magazine that the former New York City mayor believes Placa was "unjustly accused." The grand jury report contains accusations from three alleged victims, including two children (Placa is named as "Priest F" in the report.) According to testimony before the grand jury, "Everyone in the school knew to stay away from Priest F."

Placa has been suspended from his priestly duties for the past five years. He is "priest in residence" at St. Aloysius Church in Great Neck, NY. The pastor, Msgr. Brendan Riordan, is a close friend. In fact, Placa and Riordan co-own a penthouse apartment in Manhattan. The $555,000 apartment is one of six properties the two priests have owned together since the late 1980s. They also co-authored a book in 1977 called Desert Silence: A Way of Prayer for an Unquiet Age.
662 cpuller  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:26:48am

France is splitting at the seams. Years of looking the other way as the problems increased are about to bite them figuratively on their collective French asses, unfortunately.

I am saddened a little, too. France used to be a proud country. They used to fight for themselves. Are they men or dogs? Fight back! Save your country from being taken over by radicals, thugs, and common criminals!

663 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:26:58am

re: #652 BabbaZee

re: #647 ec marm

ALL HIS DRY HERB LATER ARE BELONG TO US!

~ The Ganjahadeen

Someone set us up the bong?

664 ec marm  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:28:26am

re: #659 BabbaZee
Here's the Wiki on that church I was telling you about above. You're better at this than me. Who are these folks? Ties to Syria? Or India?

665 JamesTKirk  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:29:41am

re: #662 cpuller

France used to be a proud country. They used to fight for themselves.

Not within my lifetime.

666 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:30:26am

re: #663 Lucius Septimius

Git it on!

667 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:31:04am

re: #664 ec marm

the link didn't take repost it

668 BenZacharia  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:31:10am

re: #663 Lucius Septimius

Someone set us up the bong?

With or without a carburetor?

669 Macker  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:31:42am

re: #428 JeremyR

re: #5 Macker

Why so Macker? because they haven't strung the Islamofascists up by their entrails?Maybe its time to bring back the Guillotine. The French should try to hang onto some of their traditions.

I'm sorry, I guess you may not have heard the second half of that rhyme: "They fight with their feet and [make love] with their face."

670 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:31:52am

re: #668 BenZacharia

I'll bet you could use a little bong today LOL

671 ec marm  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:32:03am

re: #664 ec marm
D'uh. Here it is. I blame it on the coffee or lack of.

672 BenZacharia  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:32:10am

Goneski

673 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:32:42am

Nor Luap picks up a key endorsement (from BotW):

"Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul, an underdog Texas congressman with a libertarian streak, has picked up an endorsement from a Nevada brothel owner," the Associated Press reports from Reno:

Dennis Hof, owner of the Moonlite BunnyRanch near Carson City, said he was so impressed after hearing Paul at a campaign stop in Reno last week that he decided to raise money for him.

"I'll get all the (working girls) together, and we can raise him some money," Hof told the Reno Gazette-Journal. "I'll put up a collection box outside the door. They can drop in $1, $5 contributions."

The Wall Street Journal reports on some of Paul's other backers:

The Paul campaign has also drawn support from antigovernment fringe groups and 9/11 conspiracy theorists. Since mid-September, a large "Ron Paul for President" banner has flashed at the bottom of white-supremacist Internet forum Stormfront.org. "Really, we haven't seen a candidate like Ron Paul in some time. The closest would have been Pat Buchanan" in 2000, says Don Black of West Palm Beach, Fla., the group's founder and a former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard, who donated $500 to Mr. Paul's campaign.

It's enough to give the Moonlite BunnyRanch a bad name.

674 gander  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:33:21am

Dear Paris Police,
Try live rounds for a change.

675 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:33:47am

re: #668 BenZacharia

re: #663 Lucius Septimius

Someone set us up the bong?

With or without a carburetor?

Fuel injected.

676 JamesTKirk  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:34:36am

re: #668 BenZacharia

re: #663 Lucius Septimius

Someone set us up the bong?

With or without a carburetor?

I'm trying to cut down on carbs.

677 BenZacharia  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:34:50am

re: #670 BabbaZee

re: #668 BenZacharia

I'll bet you could use a little bong today LOL

Beer, and other fermented libations. Scripture is full of wonderful commands.

Pro 31:6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto the bitter in soul;
Pro 31:7 Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.

678 beblebrox  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:35:58am

re: #653 Mich-again

re: #626 BabbaZee

re: #622 Mich-again

It is , and it takes a TON OF FAITH to believe that crap...
the so called "faithless" evince WAY more faith the the faithful IMO

I once compared the pursuit of trying to find other life forms in outer space as a very expensive Government sponsored form of religion. Like so what if there is a planet light years away inhabited by some other life form. What exactly does that do for us here?

Well, speaking for myself here, i think it's crucial. If for no other reason it will help to give a sense of perspective on how we fit into an infinite universe.

For those who are religious; it will show yet another facet of creation.

For those who are not, it will show an even greater complexity to how the universe is put together.

Either way I can't say that there is some form of knowledge that isn't worth persuing.

679 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:36:00am

re: #659 BabbaZee

I wrote that I thought it was a disgraceful huge waste of time and money unless it was all really all a cover for covert military ops and high tech secret weapons development.

So much modern technology that we take for granted came out of the space program so I say it has been a good investment for us, but the notion that there are ET's out there and we need to explore the galaxy and someday the universe to find them is just goofy to me.

Why try to find them? I say just hang out in Shirley MacLaine's backyard with Dennis Kuchinich and they'll eventually find you.

680 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:36:42am

re: #671 ec marm

got it...

I will play six degrees of separation with it and email you

first off know this though, all the "Arab Christian" denominations are huge Jew haters and wont even read or teach the "old testament"... listen to Brigette Gabriels' first interview she speaks about this in her own background

They have way more in common with Islam than not. "Arab Christianity" is not.

681 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:39:11am

Dhimmicrats cough and shuffle and try to change the subject (from BotW):

Whoops! "As violence declines in Baghdad, the leading Democratic presidential candidates are undertaking a new and challenging balancing act on Iraq," the New York Times reports. Having bet against American success in the hope of benefiting from failure, they are now hedging, "acknowledging that success, trying to shift the focus to the lack of political progress there, and highlighting more domestic concerns like health care and the economy."

The trouble is, many Democratic voters still want America to lose in Iraq. As the Times notes:

This is a delicate matter. By saying the effects of the troop escalation have not led to a healthier political environment, the candidates are tacitly acknowledging that the additional troops have, in fact, made a difference on the ground--a viewpoint many Democratic voters might not embrace.

"Our troops are the best in the world; if you increase their numbers they are going to make a difference," Mrs. Clinton said in a statement after her aides were asked about her views on the ebbing violence in Baghdad.

"The fundamental point here is that the purpose of the surge was to create space for political reconciliation and that has not happened, and there is no indication that it is going to happen, or that the Iraqis will meet the political benchmarks," she said. "We need to stop refereeing their civil war and start getting out of it."

Mrs. Clinton has never had any objection in principle to the Iraq war, which she voted to authorize five years ago. Yet for reasons of rank political opportunism, she now stands for the proposition that America must not win. Is this the kind of leadership America needs in a commander in chief?

More to the point, we need a commander in chief who knows what troops are actually used for. "The purpose of the surge was to create space for political reconciliation"? Uh, no; the purpose of the surge was to open up a can of wuppass on a bunch of thugs. Once again the Clintonesque policy of "Peace by other Means" rears it's fuzzy head. Aspirin factories of the world, beware!

682 BenZacharia  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:39:53am

re: #679 Mich-again

So much modern technology that we take for granted came out of the space program...

Out of the defense missile and space side, not the civvy side.

List the top 5 from the civvy side.

683 Thanos  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:40:36am

re: #618 freedomplow

Pakistan army 'retakes key peak'


Pakistani troops say they have recaptured a strategic mountain peak from militants in fighting in and around the north-western Swat Valley.

A radio station run by the pro-Taleban fighters has also been shut down.

Great news indeed -- this means that it is a true ground offensive, and that the Pak army has the initiative. Campaigns in Pak take time, and are fought one peak at a time.

684 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:40:59am

re: #677 BenZacharia

AMEN!

685 beblebrox  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:43:18am

re: #682 BenZacharia

re: #679 Mich-again

So much modern technology that we take for granted came out of the space program...

Out of the defense missile and space side, not the civvy side.

List the top 5 from the civvy side.

This may be of some assistance.

686 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:43:55am

re: #677 BenZacharia

re: #670 BabbaZee

re: #668 BenZacharia

I'll bet you could use a little bong today LOL

Beer, and other fermented libations. Scripture is full of wonderful commands.

Pro 31:6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto the bitter in soul;
Pro 31:7 Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.

Booze is blessed, this I know,
For the Bible tells me so.

687 LC LaWedgie  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:44:05am

Scientific delerium madness

/Ron Paul where aire ye?

688 hayseed  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:44:19am

"O Lord, I am calling to you. Please hurry! Listen when I cry to you for help! Accept my prayer as incense offered to you, and my upraised hands as an evening offering. Psalm 141:1-2 NLT

May the G-d of Israel strike down her enemies

689 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:44:39am

re: #679 Mich-again

Too true, ROTF!

In my studying the last month or so I have also found that there is a whole Neo-Nazi UFO contingency , all the UFOs are form the Nazis and they have bases at both the North and South poles

Prescott Bush looms large in this world LOL

talk about nutters!

And that is one of the less nutty sites

690 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:45:01am
It is fitting that Condoleezza Rice chose the U.S. Naval Academy for the venue of today's so-called Mideast peace conference. The reputation of that extraordinary institution in Annapolis has been sullied in recent years by a succession of rapes of young women. Despite official efforts to low-ball its significance, Ms. Rice's conclave is shaping up to be a gang-rape of a nation on a scale not seen since Munich in 1938, when the British and French allowed Hitler and Mussolini to have their violent way with Czechoslovakia.

[Link: www.jewishworldreview.com...]

691 Pantera  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:45:49am

re: #659 BabbaZee

It would seem like a waste, but B-2s, F-117s, and other cool stuff like that is too awesome to give up. Not to mention ICBM's

692 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:46:01am

re: #688 hayseed

He will.
But there will be a time of troubles first.
And the remnant is small.

693 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:46:43am

re: #691 Pantera

See even in the 4th grade I knew that made sense, lol

694 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:48:02am

re: #687 LC LaWedgie

Scientific delerium madness

/Ron Paul where aire ye?

Also in 2000 we are shifting from a male dominated action-oriented logical energy into a more female intuitive feeling energy. Most people did not recognize the big major breakdown - blackout - all the computers stopping - kind of dramatic thing some were expecting.. and the subtle changes went for the most part unnoticed. But look around now.. there apparently has been a shift.. everyone is meditating, doing yoga, ..Oh, look at the movie & book The Secret and all the works done on the Power of Attraction which have been popping up everywhere recently. Its because we can think things into existence more & more all the time. The shift and transition is taking place rapidly now.. its 5 years until 2012.

..and as far as raw foods and a whole getting back to nature.. well, this raises our vibrations, which not only makes people more attracted to us but also draws our thoughts to us more quickly as well.. in a concrete form. Its really very cool!

WT-effing-F?

(bubble, bubble, bubble, *cough*, bubble bubble *wheeezzz* *cough*)

695 njdhockeyfan  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:48:03am

Good morning lizards...

Suspects in Fort Dix plot ask for better access to materials

CAMDEN -- Five men accused of planning to attack soldiers on Fort Dix may get their chance today to explain to a judge why they should not remain in a segregated part of a federal detention center.

In legal papers filed over the past week, the men have asked to be moved from the Special Housing Unit.

They have complained about the food, the guards' treatment and other issues. But their lawyers are especially concerned that they are not being given enough time to review audio and video recordings that the government may use as evidence.

Of course they complained...they're muslims.

696 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:48:11am
697 BenZacharia  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:49:29am

re: #685 beblebrox

This may be of some assistance.

Nope, spurious claims with no back-up, background, history or links.

698 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:49:49am

re: #696 BabbaZee

Nazi UFO's and Wonder Weapons!

OOh, they have a "premium access site" too.

699 ronaldusmagnus  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:50:01am

A quick random check of AP, Reuters, ABC and CBS and their coverage of the riot.

AP mentions that the neighborhood is home to Arabs, blacks and whites.

Reuters mentions that the area is poor and ethnically diverse.

Neither ABC nor CBS mention the ethnic background of the neighborhood or the rioters. Both networks use AP as the source, but they edit out the line about the ethnic identity of the neighborhood.

All stories refer to the bad guys as: youths, teenagers, troublemakers, rioters.

Not one mention of the M-word.

700 tfc3rid  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:50:17am

Those wacky Youths... I wonder what kind of Youths they are? Are they young German youth? French youth? Roman Catholic youths?

I wonder...

701 ec marm  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:50:58am

re: #680 BabbaZee
Ah. I think this is it. The Church was called St. Mary's Knanaya Church. The building they are in used to be a Jewish synagogue. Weird. I can't tell for sure if they are Jewish or Christian or some combination. Not many of them, so that prolly explains the need to travel so far.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

702 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:51:42am
Arab propaganda has been successful in presenting a picture of the Palestinian people as the helpless and innocent victims of Israeli aggression -- potential friends of America who have been alienated by America’s support for Israel and its failure to support a Palestinian national state. This decision is itself the result of a “Jewish Lobby” run by “neocons” and “receiving its orders” from Israel. The fact that Palestinians are now led by two terrorist organizations, Fatah and Hamas, is also blamed on Israel and the United States rather than on the Palestinians who elected terrorists as leaders.

According to Palestinian revisionism, the Palestinians lived from time immemorial in historic Palestine, a veritable paradise of flourishing orchards and fertile vineyards, teeming with happy peasants. Then, the evil Zionists came and, with the support of the British, stole the Palestinians’ land, exiled their people, and initiated a reign of terror and ethnic cleansing that has not abated until this very day.

Goebbels died 60 years ago, but his core propaganda strategy lives on in the Great Arab Lie that there exists a Palestinian people who have suffered great injustices at the hands of Israel, the UK, and the USA. Arab leaders know that if they just keep repeating the same lie often enough, eventually people will believe it -- and the greater the lie, the more readily will people believe it.


[Link: frontpagemag.com...]

703 hayseed  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:52:18am

re: #696 BabbaZee

Babbazee...I have some really old cassette tapes recorded in the 70's I think called UFO'S and the Bible. IIRC the tapes suggest that aliens are actually satanic beings. I will have to find those tapes and give them a listen again.

704 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:53:33am

re: #699 ronaldusmagnus

Not one mention of the M-word.

Mormon?

705 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:53:51am

re: #681 Lucius Septimius

Uh, no; the purpose of the surge was to open up a can of wuppass on a bunch of thugs.

Agreed.

706 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:54:07am

re: #700 tfc3rid

Those wacky Youths... I wonder what kind of Youths they are? Are they young German youth? French youth? Roman Catholic youths?

I wonder...

These youths.

707 BenZacharia  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:54:08am

re: #688 hayseed

"O Lord, I am calling to you. Please hurry! Listen when I cry to you for help! Accept my prayer as incense offered to you, and my upraised hands as an evening offering. Psalm 141:1-2 NLT

May the G-d of Israel strike down her enemies

O, It will occur, sad to say the US is on the "Official Enemy of Ha'Shem List*"

*Zec 12:3 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will make Jerusalem a stone of burden for all the peoples; all that burden themselves with it shall be sore wounded; and all the nations of the earth shall be gathered together against it.

708 The Albatross  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:54:59am

Good morning Lizards... if this went up I didn't see it. A rather candid article about Okland's Black Muslims

US: Oakland's Black Muslims - Murder, Torture And Fraud

709 jimmybob  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:55:57am

re: #57 Pawn of the Oppressor

"Tolerance" without Integration is Suicide.

8-) Sarcasm?

Or are you seriously suggesting that it is the fault of French society for not allowing these Youts to intergrate?

710 njdhockeyfan  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:56:36am

re: #708 The Albatross

"Murder, Torture And Fraud"

Isn't that the MO for Islam?

711 njdhockeyfan  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:58:23am

This should get a few seething...

Donor can ban Muslims, lesbians

A BIZARRE row is set to erupt over claims that reproductive donors will be given the right to direct their sperm or eggs not go to certain groups such as Muslims, Jews, single mothers or lesbians.

Critics believe the Iemma Government's Assisted Reproductive Technology Bill allows sperm and egg donors to specifically discriminate against ethnic, religious and other minorities.

The Bill, due to be debated in the NSW Legislative Council, is primarily aimed at allowing donor-conceived children to access information about the donor parent when they turn 18.

But Greens MP John Kaye said yesterday there was widespread concern the Bill, as currently drafted, allowed donors to nominate classes of people to whom their sperm or eggs may not be given.

712 sattv4u2  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:58:28am

re: #699 ronaldusmagnus

C'Mon ,,, we all know it's those radical Amish stirring things up again !

713 hayseed  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 5:59:58am

re: #707 BenZacharia

"O, It will occur, sad to say the US is on the "Official Enemy of Ha'Shem List*"

It is so sad that our country has fallen from grace. I pray for a revival in this country for the Love of Israel.

714 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:00:11am

re: #698 Lucius Septimius

lol

715 beblebrox  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:00:56am

re: #697 BenZacharia

re: #685 beblebrox

This may be of some assistance.

Nope, spurious claims with no back-up, background, history or links.

Nasa actually maintains a database of their Spinoffs to the consumer and industrial sector. They have a website here. It has a magazine, searchable database, and a limited listing based on the various programs (Apollo, Shuttle, etc).

Bottom line, there is a heck of a lot of things that have come from the civilian space program. NASA really out to require some sort of logo or notification be put on products so people are aware of just how much they are getting from the program.

716 Owl  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:01:55am

Storemanager -


and if they EVER agree to a lasting peace, they loose their Saddam ace in the hole.

717 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:02:05am

re: #689 BabbaZee

From that fever swamp you linked to. This phrase sums it all up. Ha.

..It should be noted that there is scant corroborative and historically verifiable information to support these claims,..
718 jimmybob  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:02:12am

re: #662 cpuller

France is splitting at the seams. Years of looking the other way as the problems increased are about to bite them figuratively on their collective French asses, unfortunately.

I am saddened a little, too. France used to be a proud country. They used to fight for themselves. Are they men or dogs? Fight back! Save your country from being taken over by radicals, thugs, and common criminals!

I wonder if France fights back whether she will be accused of a hate crime against Muslims by the EU? Will her backers here in the states accuse her of being cultural supremicists?

After all what is so wrong with allowing the Muslims to run things for a while?

719 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:03:46am

re: #703 hayseed

We have enough Satanically inspired beings right here without importing any from other galaxies LOL

I know what you are saying though

things that seem very temporal and INTERPLANETARY to some

are IMO simply INTERDIMENSIONAL not interplanetary

people tend to forget that we are relegated to the confines of the perception equipment issued with our bodies too

but thats a whole other conversation

720 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:04:08am

re: #717 Mich-again

I am laughing VERY HARD NOW

ROTFF

721 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:05:21am

re: #713 hayseed

What we (America) is doing to Israel now we will certainly pay for

gird yer loins

and I voted for him.

722 Owl  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:05:51am

re: #718 jimmybob


"France" and "fight" in the same sentence. Funny.

The frogs are toast. They let it go too far. We should learn from their mistakes. We probably won't.

723 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:06:34am

re: #701 ec marm

okeedokee got it

724 Peacekeeper  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:06:44am

Babbazeeba!

725 beblebrox  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:06:46am

man, i have a boring day ahead of me. moving huge amounts of data from one database to another.

click.

highlight.

move.

wait.

click.

highlight.

move.

wait.

and so on.

726 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:06:55am

re: #718 jimmybob

I wonder if France fights back whether she will be accused of a hate crime against Muslims by the EU?

If recent history can be a guide, the French can fight back as long as they don't use disproportionate force against the rioters.

727 njdhockeyfan  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:08:13am

'Abbas a traitor' chant thousands at Hamas rally

GAZA - Tens of thousands of Palestinians joined an anti-Annapolis rally in Hamas-run Gaza on Tuesday, chanting "Death to Israel, death to America" and calling President Mahmoud Abbas a traitor for attending the peace talks.

Just another day in paradise.

728 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:08:48am

re: #725 beblebrox

man, i have a boring day ahead of me. moving huge amounts of data from one database to another.

click.

highlight.

move.

wait.

click.

highlight.

move.

wait.

and so on.

I dunno ... gettin' sort of tingly thinking about it.

729 LC LaWedgie  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:09:23am

re: #694 Lucius Septimius

lol...

Scoff if you must, but it'll come true... oh, yes... until 2012 when it doesn't come true.

(Jehovah's Witness syndrome)

730 realwest  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:09:33am

Good morning Y'all from a warm (54 degrees, going up to 65 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone today?

731 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:10:11am

re: #725 beblebrox

Ah, the TPS reports are due huh. You do know about the new cover sheet right?

732 razorbacker  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:10:25am

Morning boys,

I haven't read all the posts yet, but if one side in this fracas is throwing petrol bombs and the other side is responding with paint guns you ain't gotta be no scientific rocket to guess who the winner will be.

Warfare ain't tango, it don't take two. One side can wage war all by itself. The side actively fighting is likely to prevail.

733 beblebrox  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:10:34am

re: #728 Lucius Septimius

re: #725 beblebrox

man, i have a boring day ahead of me. moving huge amounts of data from one database to another.

click.

highlight.

move.

wait.

click.

highlight.

move.

wait.

and so on.

I dunno ... gettin' sort of tingly thinking about it.

I know. Windows Indexing Service gets me all hot and bothered. ;)

734 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:10:56am

re: #730 realwest

Good morning Y'all from a warm (54 degrees, going up to 65 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone today?

Backatcha. Doing ok. Warmer there than here, and not much sun yet. Hope you're feeling well.

735 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:11:16am

re: #657 Mich-again

re: #648 storagemanager

Honorable mention goes to Render.

Ha. Render is one of my favorite posters.

MUST BE
OVER THE
TARGET


RENDER knows exactly WTF they are up to.
He knows as much or more about it, them and all the unholy international connections than Charles and me.

Which is why they targeted him.

GO RENDER.

736 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:12:12am

re: #724 Peacekeeper

{PEACEKEEPA}

737 Peacekeeper  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:12:37am

HAMAS is Iran and so perhaps we need to say that

738 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:13:07am
TOKYO (Reuters) - A pearly white robot that looks a little like E.T. boosted a man out of bed, chatted and helped prepare his breakfast with its deft hands in Tokyo on Tuesday, in a further sign robots are becoming more like their human inventors.

Twendy-One, named as a 21st century edition of a previous robot, Wendy, has soft hands and fingers that gently grip, enough strength to support humans as they sit up and stand, and supple movements that respond to human touch.

It can pick up a loaf of bread without crushing it, serve toast and help lift people out of bed

[Link: africa.reuters.com...]

739 vxbush  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:13:42am

Okay, all of you with excess oxygen tanks, bring them over here. Today's oxygen supply is rather low in my household. I'll take anything and everything you've got.

/waiting to go to work until I can breathe

740 beblebrox  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:14:20am

re: #731 Mich-again

re: #725 beblebrox

Ah, the TPS reports are due huh. You do know about the new cover sheet right?

Reports? I wish. No somebody decided they didn't like others looking at their DB, so they decided that they wanted their own private DB to nobody else could look at; and they want it NOW.

Remember the cardinal rules of office work: All work not taken up by CYA, is wasted in useless tasks driven by possessiveness and paranoia.

741 JamesTKirk  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:14:50am

re: #738 storagemanager

Will it push them down the stairs?

742 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:14:54am
743 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:15:03am

Well, it's been swell. Now 'tis time to educate the "youths."

BBL

744 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:15:06am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

Once again, we're into the torch citroen trilogy - night three is almost upon France, and the riots have spread to more than the initial banlieu. 70+ police have been injured in clashes with rioters.

And here's the rub.

The police did nothing wrong - they were not to blame for the accident in which two kids were killed. The kids ran a red light on a motor scooter when they crashed into the police car. The cops tried to revive the kids, but they weren't wearing helmets either.

Eyewitnesses note that the police did all they could.

Of course, the rumors spread through the town gave a different account - and the rioting ensued.

These riots are far more violent than the 2005 riots. More property is being damaged as well, though the number of cars torched isn't entirely clear as yet.

745 vxbush  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:15:10am

re: #730 realwest

Give me your oxygen tanks, now!

746 hayseed  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:16:51am

re: #719 BabbaZee

are IMO simply INTERDIMENSIONAL not interplanetary

exactly what those tapes talk about.lol

747 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:16:51am

re: #731 Mich-again

re: #725 beblebrox

Ah, the TPS reports are due huh. You do know about the new cover sheet right?

Uh, yeah beblerox, I don't know if Mich-again told you, but... we're going to need you to put the new cover sheets on all the TPS reports, OK? That'd be great.

748 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:17:12am

re: #744 lawhawk

Meantime the "nationalists" wait in the wings drooling, they are loving this.

749 Peacekeeper  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:17:23am

There is no, as in zero, zilch, nada, bupkiss, evidence of alien intelligence. There is however a mountain of evidence of faked documents, faked photos, faked video and false testimony that tries to sell this idea. As early as the 18th century a fellow named Swedenborg got famous writing books about talking with aliens from Jupiter, Venus and Saturn. You can look him up if you wish...
Plus ca whatever.

750 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:17:46am

re: #746 hayseed

Jewlepathy strikes again lol

751 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:18:17am

re: #749 Peacekeeper

I am still looking for proof of terrestrial intelligence

752 Carridine  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:18:54am

G'day, Babba and Friends All...

2115 here, and night sits heavy on my shoulders... have a great day, fan the flames in Gay Paree, and otherwise man the trenches...

See y'all 8 hours from now... 0500 Bangkok time...

753 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:18:56am

re: #744 lawhawk

Its akin to a wildfire. The dried brush just sits there waiting for a spark. Really what have the French done since the last uprising except wait for another one.

754 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:19:53am

re: #747 Spenser (with an S)

re: #731 Mich-again


re: #725 beblebrox

Ah, the TPS reports are due huh. You do know about the new cover sheet right?


Uh, yeah beblerox, I don't know if Mich-again told you, but... we're going to need you to put the new cover sheets on all the TPS reports, OK? That'd be great.

Beblebrox, did you get the memo? We're putting the new cover sheets on all the TPS reports, so could you put the new cover sheets on the TPS reports? Thanks.

755 vxbush  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:19:55am

re: #749 Peacekeeper

When even Jane's intelligence magazine notes that Area 51's UFO stories are covers for Air Force flight testing, you know there's nothing out there.

756 The Albatross  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:20:28am

The Iranin monkey is still spinning furiously for relevance:

Ahmadinejad offers to be an observer at US presidential election

"Having failed to win a response with an 18-page letter to President George Bush or to a request to visit the site of the September 11 2001 attack on New York, Ahmadinejad has offered himself as an observer in next year's presidential election.

The proposal came in a speech to volunteers with the Basij, a pro-regime militia. He said he was prompted by a belief that Americans would vote against the current administration in a truly free poll."

*urp*

Excuse me. I just had a vomit burp.

757 vxbush  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:20:38am

re: #751 BabbaZee

Oh, YEAH!

758 njdhockeyfan  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:21:31am

Al-Qaida ally to be sentenced today

COLUMBUS -- In early August 2002, small businessman Nuradin Abdi was angry with how the U.S. war on terror was being waged in Afghanistan.

Sitting in a popular suburban coffee shop, Abdi, a Somali immigrant who ran a cell phone business, voiced his frustration to friends, a group that included a man later convicted of plotting with al-Qaida to destroy the Brooklyn Bridge.

Federal prosecutors say Abdi discussed bombing an unspecified Columbus-area shopping mall. Abdi's lawyer says his client was doing nothing more than venting.

And the quote of the day...

"As an individual who happens to be a Muslim he accepts full responsibility and accepts the consequences of his plea," attorney Mahir Sherif said Monday. "However, he wants to make it very clear that his faith, which is Islam, has absolutely nothing to do with what he pled guilty to."

759 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:22:00am

re: #745 vxbush

re: #730 realwest

Give me your oxygen tanks, now!

Have Lung, Will Travel!

760 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:22:31am

re: #752 Carridine

Good Night Your Bahainess

761 mjazzguitar  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:22:46am

Some tie in the UFO phenomena with the nephilim. "the sons of God saw the daughters of men were beautiful and took whom they chose" thing. As with anything else, there is a lot of controversy about what those verses mean.

762 beblebrox  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:22:52am

re: #747 Spenser (with an S)

re: #731 Mich-again

re: #725 beblebrox

Ah, the TPS reports are due huh. You do know about the new cover sheet right?

Uh, yeah beblerox, I don't know if Mich-again told you, but... we're going to need you to put the new cover sheets on all the TPS reports, OK? That'd be great.

Ah the joy of being a one man IT department.

763 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:22:57am

re: #756 The Albatross

Nothing infuriates an attention whore more than being ignored.

764 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:23:06am

re: #726 Mich-again

re: #718 jimmybob


I wonder if France fights back whether she will be accused of a hate crime against Muslims by the EU?

If recent history can be a guide, the French can fight back as long as they don't use disproportionate force against the rioters.

Sorry, but disproportionate force is a rule that is strictly enforced against Israel. Something about Israeli double standard timetm. It's sometimes enforced against the US, but rarely against anyone else.

765 vxbush  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:24:02am

re: #759 BabbaZee

I'll trade you one lung for a spleen!

766 Peacekeeper  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:24:05am

Babba
I think you are right that had the German Nazi regime continued, by now it might have evolved an elaborate pagan faith of arynism.

767 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:24:15am

re: #753 Mich-again

I don't think the first frenchifada ever 100% abated actually

768 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:24:50am

re: #765 vxbush

LOL

If they cobble us together we make might make one working body

769 Thanos  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:25:00am

Good morn all

The Bride wore white

770 lawhawk  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:25:20am

re: #767 BabbaZee

re: #753 Mich-again

I don't think the first frenchifada ever 100% abated actually

It didn't. An average of 40 cars were torched nightly before the first riots. After, the number has remained around 100. No word on the numbers from the past two nights, but tonite may be a harbinger of things to come.

771 TheObjectivist  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:25:26am

Alizee! The ass that launched a thousand ... well, you know : )

772 sattv4u2  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:25:36am

re: #749 Peacekeeper

There is no, as in zero, zilch, nada, bupkiss, evidence of alien intelligence. There is however a mountain of evidence of faked documents, faked photos, faked video and false testimony that tries to sell this idea. As early as the 18th century a fellow named Swedenborg got famous writing books about talking with aliens from Jupiter, Venus and Saturn. You can look him up if you wish...
Plus ca whatever.

No? Then how do you explain Dennis Kucinich ,,, Ross Perot ,,, Alan Colmes !?!?!?!?!?

773 hayseed  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:25:50am

re: #768 BabbaZee

I could use a new c-spine if any one has an extra.

774 vxbush  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:26:44am

re: #768 BabbaZee

Are you kidding? Put our two brains together, and we would take over the WORLD!

Of course, we'd have to stay where the air is humid enough I could breathe; and we'd have to stay close to your doctor so you could get your meds...

Hm. Maybe we should call it off.

775 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:26:55am

re: #766 Peacekeeper

It is huge now, today
it is happening
big upswing in it since the 1990's and huge swell since 9/11
I'll get to a post on it , it is very important stuff to know

I need time to do zero right now though and I intend to do zero a few more days

776 Peacekeeper  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:27:02am

re: #772 sattv4u2
No? Then how do you explain Dennis Kucinich ,,, Ross Perot ,,, Alan Colmes !?!?!?!?!?

I don't. I don't have to. Explaining themselves is their problem.

777 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:27:11am

re: #761 mjazzguitar

From Genesis, right before the part about Noah's ark. I always thought that verse referred to Egyptians. Seeing as the Pharaoh claimed to be a G*.

778 loppyd  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:27:17am

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

What's the good word?

779 BenZacharia  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:27:34am

re: #715 beblebrox

Try a search on the NASA site. Try "Top 5/10/100". They ain't even proud of what they claim to do. "More absorbant diapers" is the top spinoff from nasa.

780 jimmybob  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:28:07am

re: #748 BabbaZee

re: #744 lawhawkMeantime the "nationalists" wait in the wings drooling, they are loving this.

Course if the French fight back how do you tell players apart?

781 sattv4u2  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:28:40am

re: #778 loppyd

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

What's the good word?

heya Loppy,,, the good word is that our sports teams are still doing great !

782 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:28:53am

re: #770 lawhawk

Wait till they split Jerusalem, you will see it amp up like never before ...
have you read Dere Gold's
The Fight for Jerusalem?

I advise people to make the time to do so
it sums up a lot of vital information with brevity and clarity

783 The Albatross  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:29:17am

re: #769 Thanos

Good morn all

The Bride wore white

I love the way he rearranged his accessories just before he squatted on the ground and had a "WTF did I do this for" moment. Thanks for posting the vid.

784 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:29:30am

re: #780 jimmybob

Even the elect will be deceived

it will be tough

785 beblebrox  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:29:44am

The beauty of being a one man department is having the ability to make anyone's life utter hell who becomes a self important little shit.

"ah, yes. well you never told me where you saved that file; so it was never backed up. sorry about that."

"well, yes. it does appear that we have some bandwith issues to your workstation. I can get an contractor in her, in say, a month?"

"are you going to reign in your department or am I going to have to email your wife about how much time you waste every day surfing porn?"

/rubs his hands in glee.

786 Peacekeeper  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:29:59am

Babba
Certainly after five failed decades of flagging Nazism as a political force the boys in brown must be getting discouraged. Repackaging it as a religion is just new marketing. Works for the Jihadis.

787 realwest  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:30:00am

re: #735 BabbaZee YO Babba! Please check your e-mail when you can!

788 vxbush  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:30:01am

re: #782 BabbaZee

So do you think they will actually split Jerusalem? I keep thinking someone will hit Olmert up 'side the head, but it hasn't happened yet.

789 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:30:08am

re: #661 BenZacharia

If Rudy doesn't address this, I guess it's okay to assume he's going for the NAMBLA vote.


Since 2002, Msgr. Alan Placa has worked for Rudy Giuliani as a consultant at Giuliani Partners. In 2003 a grand jury report of Suffolk County, NY, accused Placa of sexually abusing multiple victims.

A spokeswoman for Giuliani Partners told Salon Magazine that the former New York City mayor believes Placa was "unjustly accused." The grand jury report contains accusations from three alleged victims, including two children (Placa is named as "Priest F" in the report.) According to testimony before the grand jury, "Everyone in the school knew to stay away from Priest F."

Placa has been suspended from his priestly duties for the past five years. He is "priest in residence" at St. Aloysius Church in Great Neck, NY. The pastor, Msgr. Brendan Riordan, is a close friend. In fact, Placa and Riordan co-own a penthouse apartment in Manhattan. The $555,000 apartment is one of six properties the two priests have owned together since the late 1980s. They also co-authored a book in 1977 called Desert Silence: A Way of Prayer for an Unquiet Age.

Being indicted is not the same as being convicted.

790 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:30:38am

re: #774 vxbush

Yes... you have the math voodoo in your brain!

We would be scary!

791 Peacekeeper  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:30:47am

LOPPYLA!

792 mjazzguitar  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:30:50am

re: #777 Mich-again Nephilim is usually translated as "giants" but some said thr root of the word could mean "fallen ones".

793 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:31:08am

re: #786 Peacekeeper

the three are one

as always

794 Eagle  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:31:42am

The real question: How will all this affect my auto insurance?

795 Owl  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:32:05am

Ok, so I'm not going to watch " The Mist" now. I didn't know S. King was such a leftist loon. He suggests that you must be waterboarded to be able to tell if it's torture or not. Ok, Stephen...you first. I mean, he thinks you can't say it's not torture if you haven't been there/done that - then how the hell can he say it IS torture if he hasn't been there/done that?

There's just no logical rational thought on the left. There's just none. At all. Ever.

796 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:32:47am

Peacekeeper,

There is no, as in zero, zilch, nada, bupkiss, evidence of alien intelligence.

For the record, the "aliens" prefer the term undocumented extraterrestrials.

797 Peacekeeper  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:32:52am

re: #793 BabbaZee

re: #786 Peacekeeper

the three are one

as always

Same monster, different heads.

798 bikermailman  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:33:08am

re: #756 The Albatross

The Iranin monkey is still spinning furiously for relevance:

Ahmadinejad offers to be an observer at US presidential election

"Having failed to win a response with an 18-page letter to President George Bush or to a request to visit the site of the September 11 2001 attack on New York, Ahmadinejad has offered himself as an observer in next year's presidential election.

The proposal came in a speech to volunteers with the Basij, a pro-regime militia. He said he was prompted by a belief that Americans would vote against the current administration in a truly free poll."

*urp*

Excuse me. I just had a vomit burp.

If you read in that...he's like the Democrats...he seems to think Bush is up for reelection too...

799 BenZacharia  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:33:16am

re: #789 MandyManners

Being indicted is not the same as being convicted.

When yer right yer right. OJ is innocent too btw.

800 beblebrox  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:33:16am

re: #779 BenZacharia

re: #715 beblebrox

Try a search on the NASA site. Try "Top 5/10/100". They ain't even proud of what they claim to do. "More absorbant diapers" is the top spinoff from nasa.

I can't disagree there. NASA does a lousy job of self promotion.

801 loppyd  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:33:56am

re: #781 sattv4u2

re: #778 loppyd

Good Morning Lizard Nation!

What's the good word?

heya Loppy,,, the good word is that our sports teams are still doing great !

So far so good. Don't want to jinx anything! :~)

The Pats' secondary was awful Sunday - me thinks Coach Bill is going to put a world of hurt on those poor bastids this week.

802 vxbush  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:34:09am

re: #792 mjazzguitar

My understanding is that it means "fallen ones."

803 sattv4u2  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:34:31am

re: #796 Dirk Diggler

Peacekeeper,


There is no, as in zero, zilch, nada, bupkiss, evidence of alien intelligence.

For the record, the "aliens" prefer the term undocumented extraterrestrials.

LOL ,,, ummm,, which Home Depot parking lot do they hang out at. I have some yardwork that needs doing, and I can only afford about 3 Quatloos an hour to pay them !

804 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:34:45am
805 realwest  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:34:50am

Whoa - this thread seems to be skipping right along!
I'm gonna start anew here - how is everyone this fine morning?

806 Peacekeeper  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:34:55am

re: #796 Dirk Diggler

What's the frequency Kenneth?

807 loppyd  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:35:09am

{keeper of peace}

Snowing there?

808 bikermailman  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:35:12am

re: #795 Owl

Ok, so I'm not going to watch " The Mist" now. I didn't know S. King was such a leftist loon. He suggests that you must be waterboarded to be able to tell if it's torture or not. Ok, Stephen...you first. I mean, he thinks you can't say it's not torture if you haven't been there/done that - then how the hell can he say it IS torture if he hasn't been there/done that?

There's just no logical rational thought on the left. There's just none. At all. Ever.

I read that Time article, or part of it. I knew he was a lefty. I was disappointed in him. You just can't talk logic to people with BDS.

809 BenZacharia  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:35:15am

re: #792 mjazzguitar

re: #777 Mich-again Nephilim is usually translated as "giants" but some said thr root of the word could mean "fallen ones".

Og/Goliath and his bros where neph, and they were pretty tall, depending on which cubit you use.

810 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:35:18am

re: #794 Eagle

The real question: How will all this affect my auto insurance?


Ha. Is Rougelining illegal in France?

811 sattv4u2  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:35:35am

re: #801 loppyd

True. I already feel sorry for the Ravens this coming week !

812 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:36:23am

Who pays the talking heads on Fox to be stupid? One asked a reporter why Hamas refuses to go along with the peace talks at Annapolis.

DUH.

813 ec marm  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:36:33am

re: #749 Peacekeeper

As early as the 18th century a fellow named Swedenborg got famous writing books about talking with aliens from Jupiter, Venus and Saturn. You can look him up if you wish...
Plus ca whatever.


In my youth I lived one town over from a major Swedenborg town, here in Pa. so I knew a bunch of them. Beyond strange people, to put it mildly. Tight knit marriages, to put it pleasantly. Spent a nice afternoon with one of them, one day. We shot a couple hundred bb's through about 20 pairs of his moms undergarments hanging on the outdoor clothesline at his suggestion.

814 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:36:42am

re: #795 Owl

Ok, so I'm not going to watch " The Mist" now. I didn't know S. King was such a leftist loon. He suggests that you must be waterboarded to be able to tell if it's torture or not. Ok, Stephen...you first. I mean, he thinks you can't say it's not torture if you haven't been there/done that - then how the hell can he say it IS torture if he hasn't been there/done that?

There's just no logical rational thought on the left. There's just none. At all. Ever.

"The Mist": I've already asked, regarding this movie, whether Stephen King hates Christians. This movie is based on one of King's novellas ("Skeleton Crew") and starts out like one of those great, classic King silver screen thrillers. But, a third of the way through, it degrades into an anti-Christian, anti-conservative, anti-U.S. military, pro-suicide rant.

[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]

815 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:36:42am

re: #787 realwest

done

816 Owl  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:36:44am

re: #798 bikermailman

re: #756 The Albatross


The Iranin monkey is still spinning furiously for relevance:

Ahmadinejad offers to be an observer at US presidential election

"Having failed to win a response with an 18-page letter to President George Bush or to a request to visit the site of the September 11 2001 attack on New York, Ahmadinejad has offered himself as an observer in next year's presidential election.

The proposal came in a speech to volunteers with the Basij, a pro-regime militia. He said he was prompted by a belief that Americans would vote against the current administration in a truly free poll."

*urp*

Excuse me. I just had a vomit burp.


If you read in that...he's like the Democrats...he seems to think Bush is up for reelection too...

If he wants, I can send him the exact location of my polling place. I'll meet him there...well, I mean, from a distance. meaning of course, I'll just wave at him.


/ sarc, obviously. I'd "wave" at him alright.

817 Owl  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:37:30am

re: #805 realwest


pretty alrighty. Hope our tests came out ok( if you know), and hope you had a good Thanksgiving.

818 Spenser (with an S)  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:37:56am

re: #805 realwest

Doing well, real. You and your Mom?

819 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:38:12am

re: #799 BenZacharia

re: #789 MandyManners


Being indicted is not the same as being convicted.

When yer right yer right. OJ is innocent too btw.

The first jury said he was, and by law he was. (I can hardly wait until the Vegas folks get ahold of his gamy buttocks.)

820 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:38:13am

{Head Loppy Dee}

821 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:38:18am

sattv4u2,

I have some yardwork that needs doing, and I can only afford about 3 Quatloos an hour to pay them !

The undocumented extraterrestrials don't do yardwork. Their specialties are pointless medical examinations followed by thorough rectal probing.

822 Peacekeeper  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:38:41am

no snow, just sloppy Loppy.

823 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:38:44am

re: #805 realwest

Just hanging out here burning up another vacation day. Use em or lose em. I do have grandiose plans for the day though, as in hours of removing old wallpaper. Doesn't get much funner than that.

824 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:38:44am

Gah. Gotta' go. Later, loverly Lizards.

825 vxbush  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:38:55am

re: #809 BenZacharia

Then you don't believe the Flood was real? Otherwise, Goliath has to be a descendent of Noah.

826 razorbacker  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:38:59am

re: #265 Pelayo

France has undoubtedly great historical achievements in the spheres of art, science, philosophy and culture, and interestingly has never been in a war against the USA, but rather was on the American side in the revolutionary war and the two world wars (though the contribution in the latter is obviously stained by the fact that France was split between a Free French resistance and the Vichy regime which collaborated.)

The real problem is the Gaullist legacy in which the French establishment cultivated a obnoxious form of nationalism that tended to be anti-American. You see it from De Gaulle to Chirac. Fortunately Sarkozy seems to have adopted a strongly pro-American position so hopefully the tide has turned., and given France's influence in Europe this may have a broad impact.

At all events no one should take delight in the thought of France and the French being on the receiving end of a domestic intifada or being taken over by militant Islamists not least because this would be harmful to the interests of America and of the West broadly.

I'm reminded of that statement by the greatest American named Langhorn, "It's not American, it's not antiAmerican. It's French."

But I'm afraid that the last great idea to come out of France was "Hey, Fifi, why don't you try putting this in your mouth?"

827 loppyd  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:39:14am

re: #820 BabbaZee

{BabbaZeee}

828 bikermailman  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:39:15am

In better news...
A Quiet Defeat for Political Correctness
U of Wisconsin (surpriiise, surprise) tried a U Deleware type program, and it failed...miserably... The students didn't participate! Wuuuhooo!

829 JamesTKirk  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:39:21am

re: #756 The Albatross

"...Ahmadinejad has offered himself as an observer in next year's presidential election. ... He said he was prompted by a belief that Americans would vote against the current administration in a truly free poll."

Apparently, he's yet another one who isn't aware that Bush is not running in 2008.

830 Peacekeeper  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:39:30am

re: #813 ec marm
Well, at least she wasn't wearing them at the time.

831 Owl  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:39:39am

re: #814 storagemanager

re: #795 Owl


Ok, so I'm not going to watch " The Mist" now. I didn't know S. King was such a leftist loon. He suggests that you must be waterboarded to be able to tell if it's torture or not. Ok, Stephen...you first. I mean, he thinks you can't say it's not torture if you haven't been there/done that - then how the hell can he say it IS torture if he hasn't been there/done that?

There's just no logical rational thought on the left. There's just none. At all. Ever.



"The Mist": I've already asked, regarding this movie, whether Stephen King hates Christians. This movie is based on one of King's novellas ("Skeleton Crew") and starts out like one of those great, classic King silver screen thrillers. But, a third of the way through, it degrades into an anti-Christian, anti-conservative, anti-U.S. military, pro-suicide rant.

[Link: www.debbieschlussel.com...]


Holy Crapolee. You sure can't get alot from trailers these days can ya?


How about " I Am Legend?" I know the little secret of the "legend" part...any anti-us crap in that one?

geesh...we only see about two moveis a year in theaters, and I was hopign to see these two. Oh and Bee movie - which apparently bombed cause it's already gone here. oh well.

832 luzbone  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:39:51am

I still exist.

833 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:40:21am
834 sattv4u2  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:40:42am

re: #821 Dirk Diggler

sattv4u2,


I have some yardwork that needs doing, and I can only afford about 3 Quatloos an hour to pay them !

The undocumented extraterrestrials don't do yardwork. Their specialties are pointless medical examinations followed by thorough rectal probing.

And you know this HOW !?!?!? u,mmm,,, nevermind ,,, I don't really care to know ! hehe

835 tfc3rid  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:40:49am

re: #706 Lucius Septimius

Ahhh... THOSE youths...

836 BenZacharia  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:41:02am

Neph.. only used twice.

Gen 6:4 The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them; the same were the mighty men that were of old, the men of renown.

Num 13:33 And there we saw the Nephilim, the sons of Anak, who come of the Nephilim; and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so
we were in their sight.'

837 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:41:06am
Nov. 27 (Bloomberg) -- Citigroup Inc., the biggest U.S. bank by assets, will receive a $7.5 billion cash infusion from Abu Dhabi to replenish capital after record mortgage losses wiped out almost half its market value.

Citigroup rose 3.7 percent in early trading today following acting Chief Executive Officer Win Bischoff's statement late yesterday that funds from the state-owned Abu Dhabi Investment Authority will help ``strengthen our capital base.''

Abu Dhabi will buy securities that convert to stock and yield 11 percent a year, almost double the interest Citigroup offers bond investors, underscoring the New York-based company's need for cash. Fourth-quarter profit will be reduced by as much as $7 billion because of losses from subprime mortgages, which led to the departure of CEO Charles O. ``Chuck'' Prince III and a 46 percent slump in its stock this year

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

838 JamesTKirk  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:41:09am

re: #789 MandyManners

Being indicted is not the same as being convicted.

It is where Republicans are concerned, if the MSM is to be believed.

839 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:41:16am

re: #832 luzbone

Mazel Tov!

840 Owl  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:41:50am

re: #825 vxbush


Oh the Flood is real. I fought those bastards through three games already. The last two were just "meh", but there's alot of them suckers.


/ heh.

But right now i'm trying to master COD4. And still waiting on that invite from that other Lizard. Or any Lizards.


Lizard COD4 clan anyone?

841 loppyd  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:42:52am

No Spankings for You!

Pols debate ban on spanking


Parents who spank their kids - even in their own homes - would be slapped by the long arm of the law under an Arlington nurse’s proposal to make Massachusetts the first state in the nation to outlaw corporal punishment.

Kathleen Wolf’s proposed legislation will be debated at a State House hearing tomorrow morning.

842 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:43:03am

Organically funny!

#832 luzbone 11/27/07 6:39:51 am reply quote report 0

I still exist.

#833 BabbaZee 11/27/07 6:40:21 am reply quote report 0

Just because it amuses me

843 Honorary Yooper  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:43:10am

re: #819 MandyManners

re: #799 BenZacharia


re: #789 MandyManners

Being indicted is not the same as being convicted.

When yer right yer right. OJ is innocent too btw.

The first jury said he was, and by law he was. (I can hardly wait until the Vegas folks get ahold of his gamy buttocks.)

Mostly because the prosecution majorly screwed up. I also can't wait until the Vegas jury gets ahold of him.

844 Peacekeeper  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:43:33am

re: #812 MandyManners

The stupid questions are intended as a prxy for stupid viewers.

Hey guys the future of your nation is being determined by George Bush based upon his perception of his popularity with 300 million people, 299.9 million of whom know exactly jack shit about the middle east, terrorism or Arab despotism.
/warm fuzzy off

845 luzbone  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:43:38am

re: #839 BabbaZee

re: #832 luzbone

Mazel Tov!

In Alabama the Tuscaloosa.

846 Miss Trixie  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:43:48am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning Lizards! &#9836 &#9834

Snowed again last night and we've flurries in the valley today. No sinshine, though.

847 Owl  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:43:57am

re: #841 loppyd


Just surprised it didn't come from CA first, frankly. Next, you'll need a permit to feed them and put them in clothes.

848 Shr_Nfr  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:44:28am

Gotta love the dear old BBC [Link: news.bbc.co.uk...] The front of the police car was stove in. There are two ways that happens. You hit something, something hits you. Given the relative driving skills of those involved, I will go with option two. Not that the Fwench (even their police officers) are the best drivers in the world, but I'll take my chances on the road with them anytime instead of two teenagers joyriding a stolen motorbike at high speed with no driver training (I assume).

849 luzbone  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:44:31am

re: #842 BabbaZee

Organically funny!

#832 luzbone 11/27/07 6:39:51 am reply quote report 0

I still exist.

#833 BabbaZee 11/27/07 6:40:21 am reply quote report 0

Just because it amuses me

bzzz

850 Peacekeeper  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:44:51am

re: #841 loppyd
Will adults still be allowed to spank each other?

851 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:44:58am
852 BenZacharia  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:45:09am

re: #825 vxbush

re: #809 BenZacharia

Then you don't believe the Flood was real? Otherwise, Goliath has to be a descendant of Noah.

Haven't got a clue why you think that. Goliath was a descendant of Noah on his mothers side.

853 vxbush  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:45:12am

BZ

Good news--I can breathe now. New problem: bad headache.

I can't win.

854 storagemanager  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:45:42am

Latter folks...have a great day.

855 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:45:50am

re: #833 BabbaZee

"we took pictures of the native girls, but they weren't developed.." Ha.

856 Owl  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:45:50am

re: #846 Miss Trixie

%u266A %u266C Good morning Lizards! %u266C %u266A

Snowed again last night and we've flurries in the valley today. No sinshine, though.


I hate it when we get days and days of nothin' but sinshine. :) Morning little singing birdy.

Of course, I'm the LAST one that should be postin about someone's flubs. haha

857 Dirk Diggler  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:45:52am

luzbone,

I still exist.

I drink therefore I am.

858 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:46:01am

Well Good,

10s of thousands of Palestinians upset because of the Annapolis peace conference.

Annapolis's for a month,

/maybe their pointed little heads will explode.

update/ one of the protesters shot dead,

shot dead, is there any other way?

859 ec marm  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:46:28am

re: #832 luzbone

I still exist.


You think that a chiefly 20th century philosophical movement embracing diverse doctrines but centering on analysis of individual existence in an unfathomable universe and the plight of the individual who must assume ultimate responsibility for acts of free will without any certain knowledge of what is right or wrong or good or bad is any way to start the morning?

/ sarc
/ hope you're doing okay

860 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:46:32am

re: #849 luzbone

{luz}

861 luzbone  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:46:40am

re: #853 vxbush

BZ

Good news--I can breathe now. New problem: bad headache.

I can't win.

Breathing is one of the most important things that we do. I always make sure to breathe in at least as many times as I breathe out.

862 BabbaZee  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:47:27am

re: #859 ec marm

lol!

863 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:47:55am

Here's the understatement of the century:

Spitzer: 'I’m Not Naturally Suited to This Job, Perhaps'

864 Owl  Tue, Nov 27, 2007 6:47:58am