Kurick?

/At least he's not doing his aides. JUST KIDDING.

When they use the word "Judi" instead of Judith (she hates "Judi"), you know there's an agenda at work.

Remember with Republicans.
IT'S THE SERIOUSNESS OF THE CHARGE THAT COUNTS!

Rudy must be scaring the panties right off dems.

There will be a demand for the appointment of a special persecutor prosecutor, because barking moonbats are funny that way.

re: #2 Ward Cleaver

When they use the word "Judi" instead of Judith (she hates "Judi"), you know there's an agenda at work.

Okay, that's Allahpundit's headline. So, never mind.

Allahpundit, you should know better.

As much as I like Rudy over the rest of the field.....none of this would really surprise me.

He seems a bit too Bushie to me. Too present administration.

Nothing improper?
His whole administration was a complete affront to received wisdom and political correctness!

"the mayor did absolutely nothing improper"

go rudy.

OT: Chavez severs relations with Colombia.

You all know that New York Crook was stealing us blind!
/

Great team Billary have been taking graft from the Chinese for who knows how long? At least 15 years and never a peep from the wonderful MSM. But the love any kind of dirt on a Republican. The press sucks

the good thing is that Rudy has never claimed to be a mr Goody two shoes.

So if anything comes up, where he hid trips to his then girlfriend, it will blow over.

Judith is Hot, BTW.

Rep. Peter King, who is pretty well tied in to the Rudy campaign states categorically that there is nothing to this. I guess we'll see, but it sounds to me that the long knives are out for Rudy and we would hope that he is smart enough not to have anything with real merit come up now.

It is bad enough for Rudy that Laura Ingraham basically has daily jihad against Rudy because he is not of the right view on abortion for her. That is what is killing him now. If he has any real scandals in his closet he will get crushed. After all, he is not the Clintons that have the media poo-poo any and everything that is bad that becomes public.

re: #6 Ward Cleaver

re: #2 Ward Cleaver

When they use the word "Judi" instead of Judith (she hates "Judi"), you know there's an agenda at work.

Okay, that's Allahpundit's headline. So, never mind.

Allahpundit, you should know better.

He was trying to be cute... Rudy &hearts Judi. At least he didn't spell "Rudy" with an "i".

re: #14 shug

got Judith pics?

ClintCo will be riding on this BS story for two weeks. If they ask the question tonight, he has no time to expose the fallacies and lends weight to the accusations. If they don't ask the question tonight, it lets ClintCo scream BIAS from the rooftops.

I question the timing.

;)

It's the seriousness of the accusation that counts...

LLL mode off/

re: #13 harley2002

The press sucks

Stalinist media organs are funny that way.

WrathofG-d: Rudy is the anti-Bush on many issues. The real patrician Bushie is Romney. The guy does not have clue about the real world, which has been Pres. Bush's problem. I supported Pres Bush strongly in both elections and would do it again if the situation were the same. He is a good guy, but a terrible manager, a terrible judge of personnel, and he has no sense of urgency about anything. And this cozying up to the terrorist of Fatah and Abbas is really just too much to take. Rudy would never, never do that. Romney would in a heartbeat.

re: #10 buzzsawmonkey

Does it rise to the level of, say, having a fugitive Chinese financier launder campaign contributions through Chinatown waiters?

Or maybe the sockpuppet organizations bankrolled by a Hungarian currency manipulator?

Just askin'.

No body has been CONVICTED! (rule for the dems)

re: #19 WrathofG-d

I question the timing.

;)

Yes.

Usually our local socialist rag, the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, usually waits until the ballots are printed before they drop this sort of bomb on someone.

Politico.com is trying to promote a Giuliani “scandal” today in advance of the debate,

What do you mean, in advance of the debate? According to the time travellers over at the AP, the debate already happened.

The AP Does the Time Warp Again

It's just a jump to the left...

re: #25 Lizard by the Bay

that is awesome. I wonder what I'm going to do tomorrow.

re: #24 The Other Les

re: #19 WrathofG-d

I question the timing.

;)

Yes.

Usually our local socialist rag, the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, usually waits until the ballots are printed before they drop this sort of bomb on someone.

I used "usually" twice in a sentence. That is probably a violation of a rule of grammar.

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

re: #27 The Other Les

Sometimes it almost always is sometimes. :D

re: #27 The Other Les

re: #24 The Other Les

re: #19 WrathofG-d

I question the timing.

;)

Yes.

Usually our local socialist rag, the Minneapolis Star-Tribune, usually waits until the ballots are printed before they drop this sort of bomb on someone.

I used "usually" twice in a sentence. That is probably a violation of a rule of grammar.

I'm holding off on doing The Rocky Horror Picture Show until I'm collecting paychecks again.

The writers' strike leaves it up to blogs to temper "opinion" like this. Notice the timing of the strike right before primaries as hitlery's secrets bubble up. CBS's writers are talking strike on the day of the debate. Only helps Hitlery as no news is good news for her campaign right now. Although we can still count on CNN to shill.

re: #16 stevieray

re: #6 Ward Cleaver

re: #2 Ward Cleaver

When they use the word "Judi" instead of Judith (she hates "Judi"), you know there's an agenda at work.

Okay, that's Allahpundit's headline. So, never mind.

Allahpundit, you should know better.

He was trying to be cute... Rudy &hearts Judi. At least he didn't spell "Rudy" with an "i".

I went off half-cocked there. I just get annoyed when media hacks call her "Judi", just to piss here and Rudy off.

re: #10 buzzsawmonkey

Does it rise to the level of, say, having a fugitive Chinese financier launder campaign contributions through Chinatown waiters?

Or maybe the sockpuppet organizations bankrolled by a Hungarian currency manipulator?

Just askin'.

There you go....making all this bad stuff up again, just to embarrass the Clinton's.
3///

I should have quoted from # 25.

Seems the FDNY and NYPD have decided to assist the Islamo-Facists:

[Link: www.rudy-urbanlegend.com...]

re: #27 The Other Les

Ususally it usally is but I usually overuse usally anyway, so I usually then don't worry about grammer.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised. He may be a good administrator but he is such a shady character.

This story was just on FOX News.

re: #38 mama winger

This story was just on FOX News.

After which, they went into the latest polls showing Huckabee pulling ahead in Iowa, and even in N.H.

re: #7 WrathofG-d

As much as I like Rudy over the rest of the field.....none of this would really surprise me.

He seems a bit too Bushie to me. Too present administration.

An Italian American Catholic from Brooklyn is the exact opposite of the patrician Bush family.

And BJ Clinton never had USSS Agents providing security while he was....

re: #41 Annelid

jasonkct -

Im watching the video now.

I figure the Police and Firemen know alot more than Rudys does...ie..being on site on 9/11.

Temper that with the cynical fact that the unions are nearly 100% Democrat political organizations.

If Rudy were a dem he'd get a bump in the polls.

It didn't surprise me that they are beginning to go through records and try to go after Rudy for misusing funds for his affair. I'd hope his campaign manager would have atleast forseen this. The leftists know that it will come up during this election that the clintons took stuff from the whitehouse and air force. They are probably just trying to preempt this.

I don't know about the truth to this piece. If this is indeed what happened, I frown on it no matter WHO the candidate is. I know one thing, I don't trust the politico as a source to be *objective* on this and provide me with the necessary analysis of the details.

Hunter is such a decent person....I guess he should have been a bad boy more then he'd have become more noticeable.

re: #11 Occasional Reader

The Venezuelan president had a similar spat in late 2005 with then Mexican President Vicente Fox.

Leftist are always creating fake boogie men.

It would be nice to see Colombia and Mexico invade Venezuela and throw Chavez out.

Let him live out his days in the Workers Paradise of Cuba or North Korea.

David Denkins budget director? ? ? ?

? ? ? ?

So many mocking similes are dancing in my head.

re: #45 meMarc

If Rudy were a dem he'd get a bump in the polls.

He may have to run Gavin Newsom as his VP.

re: #50 Annelid

Do you vote on the state or local level? Lots of times there are candidates who more closely match your priorities closer to home.

re: #47 Whiterasta

Mexico can't invade in two directions at once!

Not with half their population in front of the Van Nuys Home Depot anyway.

re: #42 song_and_dance_man

This may not go over to well with the conservative right once the lefties operatives in the MSM start investigating and reporting it.

I was pretty staunch when this type of stuff was found out about bill clinton that this showed his true character. And Character is a very important trait in a President.

However.....

The difference between Rudy and bill imo is that atleast Rudy appears contrite and doesn't hide his imperfections. bill, thumbed his nose at it and covered and lied. I'm a pretty forgiving person if someone is contrite. Rudy is not my first choice but I do see that he is sorry how he allowed things to unfold the way they did in his facial expressions when he does talk about it. Tends to make me not completely discount him.....yet.

Here's the story on Rudy according to FOX News:

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

That's it. I'm voting for Ron Paul now.

Israel will probably be better served without American intervention anyway

Testing something...

re: #44 Sifty

re: #41 Annelid

jasonkct -

Im watching the video now.

I figure the Police and Firemen know alot more than Rudys does...ie..being on site on 9/11.

Temper that with the cynical fact that the unions are nearly 100% Democrat political organizations.

NY City unions are political entities and very much in the D pocket. Talk with the rank and file and see what you get. Additionally there is a lot of sour grapes between NYC unions and Rudy, he didn't cave to union demands. That is a source of a lot the stuff. They take stuff and spin it.

My dad is on a FEMA disaster response team. At ground zero there was literal nothing left to find. Think about all the stuff in an office, think about 110 floors of office. They found little that was identifiable as anything, everything was ground to dust. Now put soft, squishy people in there. There was nothing left to find, the bodies they did find were on the periphery of ground zero.

re: #44 Sifty

but there are a few of us sane union members.

re: #53 Annelid

Mamma Winger -

No. Because I'm not part of their core demographics...ie...homeowner...business owner..or minority.

Not all issues fall under those categories.

Charles - did you just delete your own comment !?!

:)

re: #61 mama winger

Charles - did you just delete your own comment !?!

:)

right? that was quick.

re: #62 WrathofG-d

re: #61 mama winger

Charles - did you just delete your own comment !?!

:)

right? that was quick.

Did someone get a screen shot?

Expect more red herrings like this from the Libtards and Dhimmicrats. Hillary is in freefall and panic has set in.

Off-topic, but somebody around here needs to start an office pool: Days to live for Dutch lawmaker making a short film about the fascist koran.

the left-wing machine is desperately trying to sink Rudy because he has more charisma in his little finger that Mrs. Clinton has in her entire life.

WOW! Stinky deleted Charles @57.

re: #61 mama winger

OT

Hey, I tried to e-mail you some new puppy pictures, but I can't find your addy and your nic is a link rather than an e-mail addy -- can you pop me an e-mail por favor, and I'll send you some pics of Lightning?

re: #64 jcm

Guess he likes my self-deletion ability idea.

/nope no screen shot.

Comment #57 is forever lost .......

What happens if Charles bans himself?

A singularity?

re: #59 hayseed

re: #44 Sifty

but there are a few of us sane union members.

Amen. And I am working on converting/saving my beautiful bride as well. I told her we right wing Zionist Imperialist Crusader loons have better punch and cake at our meetings. She is spreading the word now.

re: #44 Sifty

re: #41 Annelid

jasonkct -

Im watching the video now.

I figure the Police and Firemen know alot more than Rudys does...ie..being on site on 9/11.

Temper that with the cynical fact that the unions are nearly 100% Democrat political organizations.

The Unions are democrat organizations. There's no doubt about it. I would have to hear from rank and file firefighters with no political motivation. The Urban Legend site has articles from Salon mag. I'm suspicious.

re: #69 christheprofessor

re: #61 mama winger

OT

Hey, I tried to e-mail you some new puppy pictures, but I can't find your addy and your nic is a link rather than an e-mail addy -- can you pop me an e-mail por favor, and I'll send you some pics of Lightning?

Oh goodie! YAY! What did you name her? Is she adorable? Is she smart? Of course she is - what am I saying!

Try my nic now and see if it works ......

re: #47 Whiterasta

re: #11 Occasional Reader

The Venezuelan president had a similar spat in late 2005 with then Mexican President Vicente Fox.

Leftist are always creating fake boogie men.

It would be nice to see Colombia and Mexico invade Venezuela and throw Chavez out.

Let him live out his days in the Workers Paradise of Cuba or North Korea.

Or Iran

re: #66 Oh my I'm awry

that's a little dark...

I off to rescue the day care from the munckins of terror.

re: #72 jcm

What happens if Charles bans himself?

A singularity?

An anomolus singularity?

I think Charles is trying to see if we are paying attention or the code has taken over. Hal? Open the pod bay doors Hal. Hal, Hal?

Hey wait a minute...Mama Winger is back......
(1) When did this happen
&
(2) Where did she go?
& (3) Why am I always the last to know?

re: #68 GeeWiz

WOW! Stinky deleted Charles @57.

Damn ! I think Stinky got himself in a mess of trouble. Did his home attendant have a day off?

re: #66 Oh my I'm awry

Off-topic, but somebody around here needs to start an office pool: Days to live for Dutch lawmaker making a short film about the fascist koran.

If you're going to start an office pool I would suggest doing the first city to be nuked by Islamic terrorists.

$100 on St. Paul, Minnesota, September 4, 2008.

re: #37 Heart

I honestly wouldn't be surprised. He may be a good administrator but he is such a shady character.

I guess it was from trying to put all those Mafia leaders in jail.

/

re: #82 WrathofG-d

Oh fer cryin out loud Wrath. I've been back since last week - try to keep up will ya?

:)

(I had a bit of surgery, but they accidently didn't kill me so here I am)

Eh. They're just trying to remind everybody that Giuliani has a messy personal life.

Not good for Giuliani, exactly. But also not news, exactly.

It'll blow over.

re: #84 The Other Les

re: #66 Oh my I'm awry

Off-topic, but somebody around here needs to start an office pool: Days to live for Dutch lawmaker making a short film about the fascist koran.

If you're going to start an office pool I would suggest doing the first city to be nuked by Islamic terrorists.

$100 on St. Paul, Minnesota, September 4, 2008.

Tehran.

re: #68 GeeWiz

WOW! Stinky deleted Charles @57.

And after he got +2 on the comment bar.

re: #89 Eowyn2

Roger that!

re: #84 The Other Les

re: #66 Oh my I'm awry

Off-topic, but somebody around here needs to start an office pool: Days to live for Dutch lawmaker making a short film about the fascist koran.

If you're going to start an office pool I would suggest doing the first city to be nuked by Islamic terrorists.

$100 on St. Paul, Minnesota, September 4, 2008.

$100 on Malibu, California November 4, 2008- but nobody will notice because it will still be on fire anyway.

re: #88 song_and_dance_man

Still Rudy's indiscretions will be raked over the coals and the mud that will come from the left and the MSM lefty operatives will be non stop once the election really gets going.

I'm sure also that he is fully aware of that, and has planned on dealing with it. This isn't his first rodeo.

re: #52 Sifty

I dunno about that the Mexican army is pretty hardcore as I understand.

Mind you, I'm not so sure about the Mexican navy.

re: #92 GeeWiz

re: #89 Eowyn2

Roger that!

a football stadium?

re: #75 mama winger

Pics on the way -- her name is Lightning...

re: #86 mama winger

Glad they didn't kill ya. Welcome back.

And next time you go into surgery, make sure Little Winger gets you a lap top.

No more dissapearing.

re: #97 christheprofessor

Lightning! Wonderful! Reminds me of moonshine whiskey.

I'll look for it .......

If you're going to start an office pool I would suggest doing the first city to be nuked by Islamic terrorists.

$100 on St. Paul, Minnesota, September 4, 2008.

Too much security. They like to strike high visible places...but by surprise. And besides, they kill thousands of America hating moonbats who the St Paul city council has invited to protest.

57.

57

fifty seven

fifty......

............. pfffffff

re: #71 mama winger

Comment #57 is forever lost .......

Do not mention Comment #57.

re: #98 WrathofG-d

A laptop! Good idea. I actually had borrowed my daughter's but the hospital wing I was on didn't have wireless. I tried sending smoke signals but the only one who could read them was tfk.

re: #95 Whiterasta

The Mexican Army. I saw them this morning. They told me if it rained within three days I can come back and get the car washed again for free.

/awful

re: #101 Dave the.....

If you're going to start an office pool I would suggest doing the first city to be nuked by Islamic terrorists.
$100 on St. Paul, Minnesota, September 4, 2008.

Too much security. They like to strike high visible places...but by surprise. And besides, they kill thousands of America hating moonbats who the St Paul city council has invited to protest.

Next terrorist attack? What are y'all typing about? Bush is out in 2009 and we are about to have peace in the middle east....there won't be any more Terrorist attacks.
/

#89 Eowyn2

Why Teheran?

#91 savage_nation

Last night of the Republican National Convention. Maximum disruptive effect.

#93 Sifty

Malibu? Why nuke the useful idiots?

Symbiont says: [Because Islamic terrorists aren't terribly bright to begin with, duh!]

re: #99 savage_nation

re: #89 Eowyn2

re: #84 The Other Les

re: #66 Oh my I'm awry

Off-topic, but somebody around here needs to start an office pool: Days to live for Dutch lawmaker making a short film about the fascist koran.

If you're going to start an office pool I would suggest doing the first city to be nuked by Islamic terrorists.$100 on St. Paul, Minnesota, September 4, 2008.

Tehran.

Can I add Pyongyang, Damascus and Riyadh to that list?

No, you can only choose one city to be the one that gets nuked 1st. Unless your money is on a multiple detonation.

re: #106 mama winger

no ability to post on LGF? Isn't that a violation of your right to Freedom of Speech?

Good one about TFK and the smoke signals though.

Yooohooooooo! REUTERS?

Bungy-bungy-wall-walla can just ki** off. I see you losers.

A**hats.

re: #106 mama winger

Actually, it would have worked better if you had sent Morse code by shorting out the entire hospital building....

re: #108 WrathofG-d

Thank the Heavens!

This made-up terrorism gag was getting tough to pull off with a straight face.

re: #99 savage_nation

re: #89 Eowyn2

re: #84 The Other Les

re: #66 Oh my I'm awry

Off-topic, but somebody around here needs to start an office pool: Days to live for Dutch lawmaker making a short film about the fascist koran.

If you're going to start an office pool I would suggest doing the first city to be nuked by Islamic terrorists.$100 on St. Paul, Minnesota, September 4, 2008.

Tehran.

Can I add Pyongyang, Damascus and Riyadh to that list?

Sounds like retaliation.

My wager is, who gets the first blast?

re: #108 WrathofG-d

re: #101 Dave the.....

If you're going to start an office pool I would suggest doing the first city to be nuked by Islamic terrorists.
$100 on St. Paul, Minnesota, September 4, 2008.

Too much security. They like to strike high visible places...but by surprise. And besides, they kill thousands of America hating moonbats who the St Paul city council has invited to protest.

Next terrorist attack? What are y'all typing about? Bush is out in 2009 and we are about to have peace in the middle east....there won't be any more Terrorist attacks.
/

Future insurgent freedom explosions

re: #106 mama winger

ROTFLMAO! Good one mama!

re: #110 The Other Les

Achmed, what is this little button for?

re: #118 song_and_dance_man

re: #104 Lizard by the Bay

re: #71 mama winger

Comment #57 is forever lost .......

Do not mention Comment #57.

Ha. It's the new comment #17.

Great snooty inside joke T-shirt idea.

re: #118 song_and_dance_man

re: #104 Lizard by the Bay

re: #71 mama winger

Comment #57 is forever lost .......

Do not mention Comment #57.

Ha. It's the new comment #17.

I'm starting to see a trend. One needs to get to the bottom of this. Where are the LGF-Troofphers?

re: #119 savage_nation

re: #110 The Other Les

#89 Eowyn2

Why Teheran?

#91 savage_nation

Last night of the Republican National Convention. Maximum disruptive effect.

#93 Sifty

Malibu? Why nuke the useful idiots?

Symbiont says: [Because Islamic terrorists aren't terribly bright to begin with, duh!]

I didn't know the convention is in St. Paul. Thanks

I plan to be out of town that week anyway. Moonbat infestation.

re: #121 Eowyn2

re: #110 The Other Les

Achmed, what is this little button for?

"Silence! I kill you!"

/puppet

I'm a little jaded on the subject of sexual relations of politicos. I think President Clinton's serial-satryiasis did that. To me, a married man with a mistress is different from whipping the old pecker out and waving it, such as it is, at every woman who gets close enough to nail.

Adultery is a criminal misdemeanor in Maryland, punishable by a $10 fine. Needless to say, no one ever gets charged with adultery. It does rear its ugly head (no pun intended) in divorce cases, though, because it is grounds for divorce.

I do not understand this alleged "scandal" story. Mayor wasn't to take security with him when he left NYC? He should never leave NYC? Was he supposed to pay for his own security out of his own pocket? Where's the scandal?

What pisses me off the most is the huge double standard in media driven politics.

The Clinton's are allowed scandal after scandal - lie after lie - and they are treated like "hey it's all cool".
Meanwhile - Republicans have to be perfect and saintly otherwise they are dragged down by a openly biased pro-Democrat media machine.

It's such Bullshit.

re: #97 christheprofessor

re: #75 mama winger

Pics on the way -- her name is Lightning...

I got them! She looks like a total imp! What an expression on her face. A rescue dog too - how wonderful. They do make the very best pets. They are so grateful - I have seen it too often not to be totally convinced of that. You have a friend for life, and such a beautiful one too. I could not be more thrilled for you, Chris. I really mean that.

Thanks so much for the pics! I sent you an email in return.

re: #126 savage_nation

re: #116 The Other Les

re: #99 savage_nation

re: #89 Eowyn2

re: #84 The Other Les

re: #66 Oh my I'm awry

Off-topic, but somebody around here needs to start an office pool: Days to live for Dutch lawmaker making a short film about the fascist koran.

If you're going to start an office pool I would suggest doing the first city to be nuked by Islamic terrorists.$100 on St. Paul, Minnesota, September 4, 2008.

Tehran.

Can I add Pyongyang, Damascus and Riyadh to that list?

Sounds like retaliation.

My wager is, who gets the first blast?

Just do them all at once and be done with it.

Madrid, Spain - just for irony's sake

re: #127 The Other Les

you mean this guy?

pretty funn except that he bites some Monty Python jokes.

Yeah, that's what's scarey today. The USSR wanted to destroy us and rule the world (cue dramatic music), but they didn't want to dust their own country in the process.

As discussed here often, Islamo wackjobs do not let that bother them. If they can hit Tel Aviv, London and/or NYC, it would not bother them knowing that their countries would soon be in the stone age.

re: #133 WrathofG-d

re: #127 The Other Les

you mean this guy?

pretty funn except that he bites some Monty Python jokes.

Yep.

re: #135 savage_nation

re: #134 Dave the.....

Yeah, that's what's scarey today. The USSR wanted to destroy us and rule the world (cue dramatic music), but they didn't want to dust their own country in the process.

As discussed here often, Islamo wackjobs do not let that bother them. If they can hit Tel Aviv, London and/or NYC, it would not bother them knowing that their countries would soon be in the stone age.

The return of the 12 Imam?

Its all as it needs to be.

Saudi arrests 200 " militants "Saudis arrest 200 militants
Strangely enough, this is an APF story on France 24, but a quick scan of the APF site doesn't show it. Wonder why ?

re: #128 Catttt

To me, a married man with a mistress is different from whipping the old pecker out and waving it, such as it is, at every woman who gets close enough to nail.

Yep yep. It was clear to me he was not only addicted to sex, thought he was above the law, but he was also a habitual liar.

Agent 57, The Master Of Disguise..... As In Heinz 57

[Link: upload.wikimedia.org...]

Charles?

lizard?

re: #127 The Other Les

re: #121 Eowyn2

re: #110 The Other Les

Achmed, what is this little button for?

"Silence! I kill you!"

/puppet

Just dont drop it. I keep getting visions of the old Schwartzeneger movie where he is the family man and that idiot is riding on the nuke.

Achmed, take my picture. I'll just shift a little this w........

Ground control to major Achmed

Gotta fly
good night all

re: #140 Highrise

Which made him an easy target for blackmail.

tsk tsk.

re: #135 savage_nation

re: #134 Dave the.....

Yeah, that's what's scarey today. The USSR wanted to destroy us and rule the world (cue dramatic music), but they didn't want to dust their own country in the process.

As discussed here often, Islamo wackjobs do not let that bother them. If they can hit Tel Aviv, London and/or NYC, it would not bother them knowing that their countries would soon be in the stone age.

The return of the 12 Imam?

Buy twelve Imams and get the thirteenth Imam free.

re: #129 finallyhere

I do not understand this alleged "scandal" story. Mayor wasn't to take security with him when he left NYC? He should never leave NYC? Was he supposed to pay for his own security out of his own pocket? Where's the scandal?

From the little that I heard the issue was that money should have come out of the mayor's office budget, but instead it was pulled from more obscure departments, including from services for the disabled.

re: #136 buzzsawmonkey

lol

re: #128 Catttt

Adultery is a criminal misdemeanor in Maryland, punishable by a $10 fine. Needless to say, no one ever gets charged with adultery. It does rear its ugly head (no pun intended) in divorce cases, though, because it is grounds for divorce.

In CT it is not a crime but a cause for alimony.

re: #139 threecoloursblue

Sorry. I'd scanned APF on Yahoo. Yahoo aren't showing it.

re: #144 The Other Les

I'll take the #12 imam and a side of rice and beans please. Hold the guacamole.

re: #147 GeeWiz

re: #128 Catttt

Adultery is a criminal misdemeanor in Maryland, punishable by a $10 fine. Needless to say, no one ever gets charged with adultery. It does rear its ugly head (no pun intended) in divorce cases, though, because it is grounds for divorce.

In CT it is not a crime but a cause for alimony.

in California it is encouraged, and has no effect on a divorce. (No Fault State)

From the little that I heard the issue was that money should have come out of the mayor's office budget, but instead it was pulled from more obscure departments, including from services for the disabled.

If so, maybe a minor local issue. I believe NYC spends vasts sums of cash. And it's 11 months too early for the big pre-election surprise.

Why our current state of politics is so bad. There are thousands of people (or at least 100s) pouring over every detail of the candidates pasts. Recall that...was it Bork? Thomas?....the left tried to get his video rental records...to see what he rented. That's really fishing for something to use against them. And NY Times tried to get Roberts adaption records.

re: #88 song_and_dance_man

And for those of us of faith repentance goes a long way towards reconciliation if he is genuine in admitting he made mistakes and apologizes. Clinton did no such thing and continued to do things like buy thongs down south. Thumbing his nose is what made him more reprehensible to the morals of conservatives of faith.

Oh and I absolutely can't stand those who say they found God/Jesus in order to escape public scrutiny and you can just tell by their body language and shifting eyes that it is bunk..and then there are those who apologize using certain phrases or words that aren't *really* an apology.

My brother and a few exes of mine were ones that would often abuse the latter so I see through fake apologies fairly easy.

I don't know if anyone in politics can be considered squeaky clean. It's an arena that attracts people who like power and privileges. I don't say that as a slam on Rudy or any other candidate. I just think it's the nature of the beast.

Rudy '08:
Trust him with your country, but lock up your womenfolk.

/still loving the Rudster

re: #131 mama winger

Thanks very much! That's so funny, my sister said she has imp in her as well, a term I've never heard that I can recall... I took her to show some friends today (who had seen pics on my camera) and they were shocked at how small she is...

Wanted a chick magnet, but think I got a tick magnet instead -- found the third tick on her today in the week I've had her.... :(

re: #153 Dave the.....

was it Bork? Thomas?....the left tried to get his video rental records...to see what he rented.

I think that particular instance involved Clarence Thomas, although what they did to Judge Bork was reprehensible too. He is and was a fine man and a fine mind.

At least when Rudy lied nobody died....

His sex isn't the countries business....

What other Clinton Era Leftist excuses are there?.....

re: #13 harley2002

Great team Billary have been taking graft from the Chinese for who knows how long? At least 15 years and never a peep from the wonderful MSM. But the love any kind of dirt on a Republican. The press sucks

Hillary Clinton - MADE IN CHINA

I don't know if anyone in politics can be considered squeaky clean. It's an arena that attracts people who like power and privileges. I don't say that as a slam on Rudy or any other candidate. I just think it's the nature of the beast.

But also because it's so nasty, normal intellgent successful types would not want to run for high office or a bench position. A top lawyer can make millions and millions a year in a huge law firm. Or can make...maybe $170,000?....on the SCUS and have to go through the hate and slander.

re: #157 christheprofessor

Purchase Frontline Plus for flea and tick prevention. Works like a dream.

She DEFINITELY is an imp - I see it in her eyes, the little vixen :) She is going to attract the girls like flies, just you watch.

I have to go eat

bbl

re: #164 mama winger

I have to go eat

bbl

Me too.

I'm a big believer in "character counts", hence why I have always had reservations over Gingrich and Rudy. But, fine. I can accept Rudy. He is right on what's important today.

re: #157 christheprofessor

Also - besides using Frontline, you may want to vaccinate her for Lyme disease. It consists of two shots given about three weeks apart, and after that given annually.

re: #130 FrogMarch

The Clinton's are allowed scandal after scandal - lie after lie - and they are treated like "hey it's all cool".
Meanwhile - Republicans have to be perfect and saintly otherwise they are dragged down by a openly biased pro-Democrat media machine.

It's really quite simple. Because Republicans believe in morality, any human weakness on their part makes them "hypocrites", and therefore "legitimate targets" of the MSM. Democrats, who have no moral standards whatsoever, can never be accused of failing them, so they get a pass. It's best explained in this cartoon.

Best picture of Hitchens ever....
On the Limits of Self-Improvement, Part I

re: #168 mama winger

Good thoughts, thanks... Will do.

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The Saudi rape victim was also attacked by her shamed brother

"They wanted to ruin my reputation. Slowly my husband started to know what had happened. Four months later, we started a case. My family heard about the case. My brother hit me and tried to kill me."

What else can happen to this women ...

re: #130 FrogMarch

What pisses me off the most is the huge double standard in media driven politics.

The Clinton's are allowed scandal after scandal - lie after lie - and they are treated like "hey it's all cool".
Meanwhile - Republicans have to be perfect and saintly otherwise they are dragged down by a openly biased pro-Democrat media machine.

It's such Bullshit.

The difference is that the media knows we care about what our side does. If we become the same as the left and quit caring, these things will not be a big deal. Not a good choice for our side I may add. They know we have a tendency to eat our own when it come to matters such as this. If it cost said Repub just 10% on the support side they win and know it. Not fair, not right, just the way it is. Sure you knew all this, just thought I'd say it out loud!

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re: #173 Ashamed to be Dutch

Who are we to judge?

/!

re: #173 Ashamed to be Dutch

OT

The Saudi rape victim was also attacked by her shamed brother

"They wanted to ruin my reputation. Slowly my husband started to know what had happened. Four months later, we started a case. My family heard about the case. My brother hit me and tried to kill me."

What else can happen to this women ...

Let's not answer that question. It might give them ideas.

re: #174 1SG(ret)

re: #130 FrogMarch

What pisses me off the most is the huge double standard in media driven politics.

The Clinton's are allowed scandal after scandal - lie after lie - and they are treated like "hey it's all cool".
Meanwhile - Republicans have to be perfect and saintly otherwise they are dragged down by a openly biased pro-Democrat media machine.

It's such Bullshit.

The difference is that the media knows we care about what our side does. If we become the same as the left and quit caring, these things will not be a big deal. Not a good choice for our side I may add. They know we have a tendency to eat our own when it come to matters such as this. If it cost said Repub just 10% on the support side they win and know it. Not fair, not right, just the way it is. Sure you knew all this, just thought I'd say it out loud!

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Yes - our side has this tendency towards morals.
Morals = good
Expecting saintly perfection while the otherside gets a free pass? bad.

Glenn Beck is on fire tonight. Catch a replay if you can. HNN

re: #74 Eowyn2

re: #44 Sifty

re: #41 Annelid

jasonkct -
Im watching the video now.

I figure the Police and Firemen know alot more than Rudys does...ie..being on site on 9/11.

Temper that with the cynical fact that the unions are nearly 100% Democrat political organizations.

The Unions are democrat organizations. There's no doubt about it. I would have to hear from rank and file firefighters with no political motivation. The Urban Legend site has articles from Salon mag. I'm suspicious.

I have spoken with 2 NYPD and they both hated Giuliani. The union wouldn't claim to be against him if the majority of it's members would be opposed to it. A union may not have everyones intentions covered, but it has to at the very least have a majority support for something like this despicable act of back stabbing.

re: #151 WrathofG-d

No fault state as well with the exception of the alimony allowance regardless of the sex of the offended.

re: #180 savage_nation

I tried to see the debate & instead I got a video about Ron Paul. What the heck.

/no joke.

Bye bye Rudy!
It is amazing what conservatives will overlook to support this guy.
This is just the tip of the iceberg.
FRED!

re: #184 savage_nation

Am I too stupid to find the debate or what?

RP hack?

what is going on here?

The MSM is pushing Mike Huckabee!

They really H-A-T-E Rudy.

GOOooo Rudy =
:)

re: #177 FrogMarch

Yes - our side has this tendency towards morals.
Morals = good
Expecting saintly perfection while the other side gets a free pass? bad.

In fact to many do expect saintly perfection. I have problems with most of those running on our side, but they are much better than anything on the other. The shame is, not all on our side will vote if the nominee doesn't meet their expectations. Again not right, but just the way it is. In most cases, we will lose under these circumstances.

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re: #151 WrathofG-d

re: #147 GeeWiz

re: #128 Catttt

Adultery is a criminal misdemeanor in Maryland, punishable by a $10 fine. Needless to say, no one ever gets charged with adultery. It does rear its ugly head (no pun intended) in divorce cases, though, because it is grounds for divorce.

In CT it is not a crime but a cause for alimony.

in California it is encouraged, and has no effect on a divorce. (No Fault State)

Maryland has pretty strict divorce laws. Unless you have grounds, it takes a year to get a divorce, even if both parties agree to it. Grounds are things like adultery, conviction of a felony, incarceration, and insanity.

My then spouse, when he found out about the decidedly NOT no-fault divorce laws in Maryland, was very cooperative with my reasonable demands. As a result, neither of us got attornies, he paid me the money he owed for home expenses during the separation, and he paid for the divorce. Plus his girlfriend blew up like a blowfish - wider than she was tall - as soon as he hooked him. :)

re: #186 juan

The MSM is pushing Mike Huckabee!

They really H-A-T-E Rudy.

Of course. Rudy can beat the Hildebeast. Huckabee can't. Simple math, really.

SAVAGE
Try again. Its no longer RON PAUL. Its debate.

re: #130 FrogMarch

What pisses me off the most is the huge double standard in media driven politics.

The Clinton's are allowed scandal after scandal - lie after lie - and they are treated like "hey it's all cool".
Meanwhile - Republicans have to be perfect and saintly otherwise they are dragged down by a openly biased pro-Democrat media machine.

It's such Bullshit.

A liberal friend of mine explained the dichotomy this way: Republicans claim to have moral values, so when they fall short of those purported values, they are obviously hypocrites and bad people. On the other hand, Democrats don't profess to have any moral values, so when they are involved in scandals that are anti-social, ethically questionable, etc., they're not hypocrites or bad people, nor can they be judged by others the same way as they would Republicans.

re: #190 Lizard by the Bay

Any time I hear that so in so is the media darling I know something is not up to par. I've heard it said about three times on FNC today that Huckabee has become the media darling. Not made up my mind at this point, but if the media is for someone I tend to get turned off on that person.
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re: #180 savage_nation

Uhhhh, the debates are on CNN right now....

The debate starts at 8 PM EST

OT

Anybody know anything about horses? I'm looking at an old pic at Shorpy of a horse that died of "compaction." What the hell is that?

re: #193 rightymouse

A liberal friend of mine explained the dichotomy this way: Republicans claim to have moral values, so when they fall short of those purported values, they are obviously hypocrites and bad people. On the other hand, Democrats don't profess to have any moral values, so when they are involved in scandals that are anti-social, ethically questionable, etc., they're not hypocrites or bad people, nor can they be judged by others the same way as they would Republicans.

That sounds awfully familiar. :)

What never ceases to amaze me is how liberals think this makes them "morally superior" to conservatives. Lacking any standards of decency trumps being a "hypocrite" in their book.

re: #188 Catttt

My ex covered all four of those grounds in less than a year.

My tastes and judgement have improved considerably since then...

NOTED,
R

Someone ask Charles to get up a pre-debate thread.
Even these questions/answers now are interesting.

/he doesn' t listen to me.

who ownes youtube? Google right?
who ownes CNN?

what is the connection?

re: #201 Render

Your ex and my ex should get together.

re: #198 christheprofessor

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Anybody know anything about horses? I'm looking at an old pic at Shorpy of a horse that died of "compaction." What the hell is that?

I believe it's colic? Here's a link that might be helpful.

re: #202 WrathofG-d

Might be because earlier today, you where identified as not being you. LOL
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re: #205 rightymouse

Gracias. Am checking now...

re: #206 1SG(ret)

maybe. but I figured that like all geniuses I won't be appreciated until long after I'm dead.

the rest of youz need to catch up.

re: #198 christheprofessor

I believe it's terminal constipation

re: #201 Render

re: #188 Catttt

My ex covered all four of those grounds in less than a year.

My tastes and judgement have improved considerably since then...

NOTED,
R

Wow. My ex covered the first one like a blanket but kept his nose clean otherwise.

Ditto on the taste and judgement thing - me too. I discovered the wonderful world of much better.

The advertising for this debate has been heavy in my area. Several times a hour!

re: #208 WrathofG-d

I don't have time. Too Old! Weunz with little edumacation needz peoples like you.
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re: #205 rightymouse

That seems to be it... Thanks!

Good Evening all, hope you are all doing well.

OT:

CAIR against Homeland Security Program to train firefighters (Is there a Homeland Security program that CAIR is for?)

The New York chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-NY), together with the Association of Muslim American Lawyers (AMAL) and the Sikh Coalition, today expressed deep concern about a federal testing program that uses firefighters to gather intelligence for security purposes.
...
"Undoubtedly, firefighters should inform law enforcement authorities of activity deemed 'suspicious' under a reasonable person standard. However, FDNY's partnership with the government as intelligence agents may compromise resident's trust in firefighters and consequently threaten the fire department's standing as a group that our city holds in high esteem."

The letter also expressed the groups' privacy concerns: "...[W]e believe that terrorism-related intelligence training of the FDNY may serve as 'back door' route to warrantless searches by the government."
CAIR, America's largest Muslim civil liberties group, has 33 offices, chapters and affiliates nationwide and in Canada. Its mission is to enhance the understanding of Islam, encourage dialogue, protect civil liberties, empower American Muslims, and build coalitions that promote justice and mutual understanding.

The program, initiated by the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) last December, trains Fire Department of New York (FDNY) firefighters and inspectors to identify "suspicious" behavior or items that may indicate terrorist activity or planning.

Open thread for the CNN whakamola farce about to begin?

re: #209 oozel

That seems to be the case. Sorta like Ron Paul has intellectual compaction...

Two stories out of Saudi Arabia

saudi arab readers want rape victim stoned to death

Religeous police found innocent of all charges in murder case

[Link: willamos.myblogsite.com...]

Private Babe Ruth! (May 28, 1924)

re: #190 Lizard by the Bay

re: #186 juan

The MSM is pushing Mike Huckabee!

They really H-A-T-E Rudy.

Of course. Rudy can beat the Hildebeast. Huckabee can't. Simple math, really.

Says here Huckabee can.

re: #216 christheprofessor

The vet told me I could help out my horse by sticking a hose up his ass. I don't think there is any cure for Pauleans.

re: #220 oozel

re: #216 christheprofessor

The vet told me I could help out my horse by sticking a hose up his ass. I don't think there is any cure for Pauleans.

Besides, if you stuck a hose up the Paulians' asses, they'd drown...

re: #219 JammieWearingFool

re: #190 Lizard by the Bay

Of course. Rudy can beat the Hildebeast. Huckabee can't. Simple math, really.

Says here Huckabee can.

Zogby polls also predicted a Kerry landslide nearly every day up until the election. Wait, scratch that. They were predicting a Kerry landslide on election day as well. That was the day that liberals claimed that "exit polling is more accurate than actually counting votes"! What a difference 4 years makes. Or, maybe not.

re: #200 Lizard by the Bay

re: #193 rightymouse

A liberal friend of mine explained the dichotomy this way: Republicans claim to have moral values, so when they fall short of those purported values, they are obviously hypocrites and bad people. On the other hand, Democrats don't profess to have any moral values, so when they are involved in scandals that are anti-social, ethically questionable, etc., they're not hypocrites or bad people, nor can they be judged by others the same way as they would Republicans.

That sounds awfully familiar. :)

What never ceases to amaze me is how liberals think this makes them "morally superior" to conservatives. Lacking any standards of decency trumps being a "hypocrite" in their book.

Too funny. Had you been talking to liberals too? I had asked my liberal friend very specifically why Bill Clinton got a pass on his adulterous behaviors, but Guiliano was fair game. I also asked about 'Cold Cash Jefferson' , Murtha etc. and why Dems yawned at their behaviors but went bonkers over Scooter Libby, yadayada...

They think they are 'morally superior' likely because the things they say are important are typically emotional, not well-thought-out attachments, impossible to quantify, and largely reduced to symbolic endorsement. In other words, anything goes and they can move the goal posts at will, whereas conservative ideas of moral behavior are clearly defined.

re: #213 christheprofessor

re: #205 rightymouse

That seems to be it... Thanks!

You're welcome. :)

re: #193 rightymouse

re: #130 FrogMarch

What pisses me off the most is the huge double standard in media driven politics.

The Clinton's are allowed scandal after scandal - lie after lie - and they are treated like "hey it's all cool".
Meanwhile - Republicans have to be perfect and saintly otherwise they are dragged down by a openly biased pro-Democrat media machine.

It's such Bullshit.

A liberal friend of mine explained the dichotomy this way: Republicans claim to have moral values, so when they fall short of those purported values, they are obviously hypocrites and bad people. On the other hand, Democrats don't profess to have any moral values, so when they are involved in scandals that are anti-social, ethically questionable, etc., they're not hypocrites or bad people, nor can they be judged by others the same way as they would Republicans.

And isn't that disgusting?

Of course there is a scandal here. If what he was doing was proper, then why was it hidden in such a manner?

re: #159 WrathofG-d

His sex isn't the countries business....

I don't agree with that. Behavior, be it personal or public, reflects integrity. If a person has no personal integrity, especially when it comes to family, how can I trust him to do right by me, a total stranger? I just believe integrity is integrity. It's not situational.

re: #188 Catttt

I had a very similar experience except that I am a male of the species. She paid for the divorce and a quit claim deed for the house in exchange for alimony payments. I got the kids and the house, she got her freedom from exposure.

re: #225 FrogMarch

re: #193 rightymouse

re: #130 FrogMarch

What pisses me off the most is the huge double standard in media driven politics.

The Clinton's are allowed scandal after scandal - lie after lie - and they are treated like "hey it's all cool".
Meanwhile - Republicans have to be perfect and saintly otherwise they are dragged down by a openly biased pro-Democrat media machine.

It's such Bullshit.

A liberal friend of mine explained the dichotomy this way: Republicans claim to have moral values, so when they fall short of those purported values, they are obviously hypocrites and bad people. On the other hand, Democrats don't profess to have any moral values, so when they are involved in scandals that are anti-social, ethically questionable, etc., they're not hypocrites or bad people, nor can they be judged by others the same way as they would Republicans.

And isn't that disgusting?

Yes it is. But liberals think we're disgusting. Go figure.

re: #93 Sifty

re: #84 The Other Les

re: #66 Oh my I'm awry

Off-topic, but somebody around here needs to start an office pool: Days to live for Dutch lawmaker making a short film about the fascist koran.

If you're going to start an office pool I would suggest doing the first city to be nuked by Islamic terrorists.

$100 on St. Paul, Minnesota, September 4, 2008.

$100 on Malibu, California November 4, 2008- but nobody will notice because it will still be on fire anyway.

I'd say Detroit, Michigan but it looks nuked now.

I was at a Florida Institute of CPAs seminar today regarding . . . . well, CPA stuff, of course. But something the instructor, who sues CPAs for a living, said today really bothered me - besides pointing out all the things we can be vulnerable on if we're not duly diligent!

He was commenting on how CPAs should exercise great care in choosing our clients in the first place, that 2/3 of the CPAs he sues successfully are not (careful, that is). . . . and that he recommended never to accept or keep clients who:
1. Gamble
2. Do drugs
3. Cheat on their spouses

because they are many times untrustworthy in other aspects of their lives.

Guiliani and Bill Clinton were the first two people who inadvertently popped into my head once he said #3.

It troubled me because I like Guiliani on some aspects.

Just some random thinking . . .

re: #230 Hard Right

I'd say Detroit, Michigan but it looks nuked now.

Are there some cities that might actually benefit from a nuking? Baltimore springs immediately to mind.

General Maxwell Taylor had this to say to the paratroopers under his command before they jumped into Normandy, June 1944, "Flies spread disease, so keep yours closed!"
Rudy was too young to listen, comprehend, or remember those words at the time. Pity! So was Slick Willy too. No pity there, though. One of these days, based on probability, Bubba is likely to fall victim to the 'two dollars to get it, ten dollars to take it away' disease. A well deserved fate should it come to pass.
One question, does the Secret Service do a precautionary smear before one of Willie's dalliances, just to prevent such an event?

Anyone else smell a Clinton rat?

DNC cancels L.A. debate

Re 231: Florida Lady

I've been watching Rudy - my candidate - for some years, and his marriage to Donna Hanover was a disaster. Right at the beginning of his first administration Ms. Hanover let it be known that she would not be acting as a first lady - all the while living in Gracie Mansion with all the perks. Then in his second term Rudy got prostate cancer and Ms. Hanover could not have been less interested. Then somewhere in that time frame he met Judith a nurse and a compassionate woman. She was there for him all during his chemo and radiation (not a fun thing to undergo). Then I seem to remember that Ms. Hanover refused to leave the mansion after the divorce, so Rudy had to continue to live with a friend. All the while Ms. Hanover was working on her career in TV, but where is she today? And trust me, she has poisoned the relationship between Rudy and his kids.

Rudy is not to blame for anything except for marrying the wrong second wife, and I wish him the best in his third and hopefully last marriage.

whoa--rudy had another girlfriend before judith--his assistant who now runs nyc company tourist organization--so what--his second marriage was a disaster as she was a cold self promoting be-atch--so he went looking for love in all the wrong places--the guy is no runaround playah like the dem demigod bill clinton who could never keep his fly zipped--ever--so he went to the hamptons and stayed with judy while seperated but not divorced--so what--was he supposed to have sex with the gay couple he was staying with because she wouldn't leave the mayor's mansion--and he was entitled to police protection because of threats 24/7--remember the almost mafia contrct on him----why would he have to hide that in the city budget--all this from a dinkens budget director--maybe he should have been investigating dinken's asian girlfriend that he kept stashed in a lou rudin favor bank apartment when he was mayor--ps rudy had huge fights with police and fire unions over PAY RAISES which he kept under control after years of these dem unions getting all they wanted from dem mayors in quid pro quo big city handwashing--sheesh