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1 DistantThunder  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:43:35pm

This is creepy like she is stalking the Republican candidates.

2 Sifty  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:43:51pm

General Folsom was framed!

3 Noam Sayin'  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:44:12pm

I had a clinton plant but it died - no matter how much I "watered" it.

4 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:45:00pm
5 DistantThunder  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:45:03pm

Remember when Bill was running for governor and was dropping in the polls- Hillary stalked his opponent by showing up at a forum, and pummeling him with questions - as herself, Bill's wife.

What a crass act that broad is!

6 ladyk  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:45:22pm

I question the timing of the question.

7 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:45:52pm

re: #3 Noam Sayin'

How can that be?

They are coming up like crabgrass at CNN debates.

8 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:45:54pm
9 csdeven  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:46:11pm

Isn't tofu the gay plant?

10 DesertSage  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:46:18pm

Clinton plants don't grow in the desert...

11 Tumulus11  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:46:27pm

[Repost]

. Alone among the Youtube questioners, 'General' Kerr was introduced from the debate audience. After the candidates had answered his question, Kerr was asked if he was satisfied with the answers. He was then allowed to deliver a lengthy rebuttal involving a change of microphones. This continued as a filibuster on gay rights in the military that cried out for a moderator's intervention.

This was a set-up.

Was CNN careless or was it complicit?

12 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:46:43pm

re: #6 ladyk

I question the formation of your question.

13 Sifty  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:47:09pm

Perhaps he could run for governor of Kentucky with his new fame?

14 DistantThunder  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:47:55pm

I question the linkage of your question.

15 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:48:31pm
16 DistantThunder  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:48:44pm

re: #11 Tumulus11

[Repost]

. Alone among the Youtube questioners, 'General' Kerr was introduced from the debate audience. After the candidates had answered his question, Kerr was asked if he was satisfied with the answers. He was then allowed to deliver a lengthy rebuttal involving a change of microphones. This continued as a filibuster on gay rights in the military that cried out for a moderator's intervention.

This was a set-up.

Was CNN careless or was it complicit?

NOTHING happens by accident with Hillary, that is in her favor. Got that?

17 Sifty  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:49:30pm

re: #11 Tumulus11

Bit of both.

Once the general started, it was a manner of Absolute Moral Authority. No way in hell Cooper could have shut him down without seeming disrespectful.

18 DistantThunder  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:49:33pm

Isn't Anderson Cutie Cooper gay - i read that he is - could that be why they allowed the fillibuster?

19 lucky dog  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:49:41pm

CNN has none of the on their web page

20 csdeven  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:50:34pm

re: #11 Tumulus11

Was CNN careless or was it complicit?

Does a bear make doo doo in the woods?

21 DistantThunder  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:50:45pm

Could the parties be any more different?

22 DistantThunder  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:51:03pm

Does hillary throw ashtrays?

23 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:51:27pm
24 lucky dog  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:51:34pm

THis will hurt Hillary!

25 Sifty  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:51:37pm

Hillary: When you Kerr enough to plant the very best.

26 DistantThunder  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:51:57pm

re: #23 song_and_dance_man

re: #21 DistantThunder

Could the parties be any more different?

The glow sticks are a give.

And the smell...

27 CheatyPantsMcSweatervest  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:52:55pm

because a dem did it, you'd expect this to blow over, but since it hurts CNN other media outlets may try to use it to disgrace them. Which does the MSM want more, weakened CNN or Hill as Prez?

28 justdontlikematall  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:53:43pm

#16 - [Link: www.zpub.com...]

Make no mistake!

29 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:54:11pm
30 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:55:09pm

OK For the next debate lets have the Dems on Fox being quizzed by Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, and Mary Katherine Ham?

Seems Fair.

31 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:56:12pm
32 JoggerNot  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:56:24pm

anyone notice the flag.. behind some stupid q guy? during this event? backwards...

33 leepro  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:56:44pm

re: #11 Tumulus11

You have to ask?

34 Evan from NZ  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:57:17pm

OT

To "celebrate" the 60th anniversary of the UN Partition Plan, Aussie pro-Palestinian moonbat Sonja Karkar has written a charming little piece:

The Partition of Palestine Ushers in Apartheid

For those who don't know, Karkar specialises in melodramatic, hyperbolic rants about bloodthirsty Israelis and noble, starving Palestinians (who are "descended from the Canaanites and earlier peoples", she likes to remind her readers).

True to form, the article is a load of revisionist claptrap. Take the opening paragraph for example:

On 29 November 2007, it will be sixty years since the United Nations General Assembly voted for the partition of Palestine. It was a treacherous decision forced through by the United States after pressuring delegates of several member states to reverse their earlier vote against partition, in order to obtain the two-thirds majority needed to pass the resolution. [1] The decision >betrayed the majority Palestinian population of the day who had no say in the partition of their land

35 kynna  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:57:19pm

Anderson (shorter than he looks on TV) Cooper apologized for the plant, which I suppose is to his credit. But they are really looking like amatures over there. If you're going to pull a hoax, don't do the same thing twice. Especially if you got busted the last time!

36 Evan from NZ  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:57:36pm

continued from above

"The Palestinian Heartland". I'd say a fair chunk of that disappeared when the Brits carved Jordan out of the original mandate. But Karkar chooses to forget that. And note the anachronism of of the "Palestinian"-Jew dichotomy in 1947 - it was only after 1967 that the Arabs from the region started calling themselves Palestinian. Indeed, they hated that term in 1947. But again, leave out these important details and you have a scrumptious tale of colonial invasion and betrayal. Quick, Hollywood, hire Karkar now!

37 leepro  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 9:59:14pm

re: #6 ladyk

re: #12 unclassifiable

re: #14 DistantThunder

Enough! Go to your room.

38 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:00:11pm
39 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:00:16pm

re: #37 leepro

I question your authority.

40 justacanuck  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:00:34pm

re: #19 lucky dog

CNN has none of the on their web page

Anderson Cooper started making some noises about it following the debate, during CNN's 'analysis'. Just before CNN left the live studio, Anderson made an explicit comment stating they had no knowledge of it before hand, and if they had, it would have affected their decision to use the question -- and even, whether or not the question would air.

I give Anderson Cooper full marks on this.

(Though I wasn't pleased to see him asking his own question to Rudy about the allegations surfacing today-- that smacks of lousy unfairness to hit one candidate with unproven allegations when there's plenty of mud to toss around. Cooper should have been above that.)

41 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:01:28pm
42 CheatyPantsMcSweatervest  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:01:35pm

re: #38 song_and_dance_man

CNN should now be realizing that the General has become a Major (pain in the ass).

heh an age-old formula
sodomy joke+military rank pun= COMEDIC GOLD!

43 spidly  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:02:21pm

I'm thinking Juan Carvillos would pass the CNN vetting process

44 RTLM  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:04:08pm

Note to Hillary,
When you allow a whacked out Steering Committee to run a muck on Clueless News Network, it WILL bite you on your (rather large) ass.

Nice work.
Bwahahahaha!

45 Tumulus11  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:05:00pm

. I question the goals of the steering committee.

46 Ashamed to be Dutch  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:05:57pm

OT

The New-York Sun : Bedouin Darkness Spreads With Oil Money

Do American institutions want to snuggle up with Saudi Arabia and its Dark Age values?
They should expect no free lunches. These failed governments are buying America's silence and its implied acquiescence to barbaric.

Worth a read

47 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:06:04pm

re: #45 Tumulus11

Why steer when you ain't got brakes?

48 solomonpanting  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:07:32pm

re: #42 CheatyPantsMcSweatervest

re: #38 song_and_dance_man


CNN should now be realizing that the General has become a Major (pain in the ass).

heh an age-old formula
sodomy joke+military rank pun= COMEDIC GOLD!

Under the "Don't Ask-Don't Tell" policy, if one sought any disclosures from this General Information it would be necessary to visit his own, personal Private Hell.

49 psaturn  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:08:31pm

re: #30 unclassifiable

OK For the next debate lets have the Dems on Fox being quizzed by Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, and Mary Katherine Ham?

Seems Fair.

I believe Democrats said they would NOT appear on Fox...

50 NY Nana  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:10:41pm

Here is Anderson Cooper's Atlas-like 'apology.

51 jasonkct  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:11:19pm

re: #21 DistantThunder

Could the parties be any more different?

Ok, I will admit that our party does sneaky tactics and propaganda too... but at least we have good reason to. Could you imagine winning a war if you did everything out in the open, with no secrets and not getting your hands dirty every once in a while?

And just an afterthought, I think it would actually not be such a bad idea to have openly gay Generals. I love the thought of the look on our enemies faces when they see something that they consider sin, we promote to our highest ranks!

52 Dead Sea Squirrel  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:12:11pm

Sorry Hillary Rod 'em, It's not as easy now to script the world as it was when Bill first ran, not with all those bad tempered, internettin', jammie-wearin', fact-checking banshees, crackling and snapping like thorns burning under your pot.

/tfk-ish

53 FishFearMe  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:13:33pm

re: #20 csdeven

re: #11 Tumulus11


Was CNN careless or was it complicit?

Does a bear make doo doo in the woods?

Not if he's a Polar bear. Heh.

54 leepro  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:13:38pm

re: #41 song_and_dance_man

LOL!
Hadn't read down that far yet when I posted.

Now you have to go to your room, too.
=;-»

55 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:13:56pm

re: #49 psaturn

OK, Coulter/Malkin/Ham on MSNBC with Olberman as the moderator.

Happy?

56 tacodawn  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:14:02pm

Anderson is a weenie. A little short one like the ones in the Beanie Weenie cans.

57 Ashamed to be Dutch  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:15:29pm

More CNN plants debunked by Michele Malkin

Digging out the CNN/YouTube plants: Abortion questioner is Edwards supporter

Soon to be a forest

58 CheatyPantsMcSweatervest  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:15:40pm

re: #53 FishFearMe

re: #20 csdeven

re: #11 Tumulus11


Was CNN careless or was it complicit?


Does a bear make doo doo in the woods?

Not if he's a Polar bear. Heh.

All the Polar bears got lost and drowned
/AlGore

59 leepro  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:17:03pm

re: #50 NY Nana

"Atlas-like"

Haha!

60 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:17:08pm

The more I think about it I tend to think he was was an intentional plant with full compliance from CNN. The amount of time they allowed him was ridiculous.

61 Ashamed to be Dutch  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:19:15pm

re: #60 Killgore Trout

The more I think about it I tend to think he was was an intentional plant with full compliance from CNN. The amount of time they allowed him was ridiculous.

intentional plantS, look at my post #57

62 unclassifiable  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:20:27pm

Good night Lizards.

One thought.

Compare this debate to the Democrat's debate.

Any of them "confronting" any hardball issues?

63 leepro  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:20:28pm

re: #52 Dead Sea Squirrel

Sorry Hillary Rod 'em, It's not as easy now to script the world as it was when Bill first ran, not with all those bad tempered, internettin', jammie-wearin', fact-checking banshees, crackling and snapping like thorns burning under your pot.

/tfk-ish

You do have a way with words.

but...
"Sorry Hillary RodRob 'em..."


~ snicker

64 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:21:30pm
65 Sharmuta  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:21:31pm

So- the question was planted but real? Kinda like fake but accurate?

I think the msm might be stuck in a rut.

66 tommygum  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:21:40pm

re: #8 song_and_dance_man

And for what its not worth just where is the Gay Generals Gate?

Under his Harley tramp stamp.

67 mrclark  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:23:18pm

re: #5 DistantThunder

Remember when Bill was running for governor and was dropping in the polls- Hillary stalked his opponent by showing up at a forum, and pummeling him with questions - as herself, Bill's wife.

What a crass act that broad is!

What an Ass Crack that broad is!

68 antiIslamist  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:23:40pm
69 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:23:44pm
70 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:23:44pm

Ha!
Also note the Guy Fawkes mask in the background of this question...
The "Gotcha" in the GOP Debate - Was CNN Sandbagged?
CNN really screwed the pooch tonight.

71 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:25:46pm
72 FishFearMe  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:25:49pm

OT: MrsFishFearMe's Grandpa is not expected to make it through the night as Alzheimer's has taken its inevitable course. His name is Aubrey. Prayers will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

73 spidly  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:27:32pm

CNN can make it up if they ask a question like this in a future debate

"european and canadian health care has fallen apart. survival rates abroad for all major diseases are well below US rates. hundreds of people show up for 25 or fifty dental appointments. they produce practically no medications or medical technologies. they let tens of thousands of pensioners cook to death in hospital -repeatedly - to save the cost of a swamp cooler. they have thriving medical tourism industries for patients seeking quality treatment in the US and asia when their own systems cannot or will not provide treatment in a timely manner - if at all. they are moving away from single payer models and into private systems...

I guess my question is, what kind of retard wants to socialize medicine in the US?"

74 RTLM  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:28:27pm

re: #68 antiIslamist

I do believe that is the best indoor RC plane flying I've ever seen

75 realwest  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:28:50pm

re: #11 Tumulus11 Repost from me too: complicit.

76 Meremortal  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:29:04pm

What, no UFO or diamonds or pearls questions?

77 geoffb5  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:29:39pm

re: #51 jasonkct

re: #21 DistantThunder

Could the parties be any more different?

Ok, I will admit that our party does sneaky tactics and propaganda too... but at least we have good reason to. Could you imagine winning a war if you did everything out in the open, with no secrets and not getting your hands dirty every once in a while?

And just an afterthought, I think it would actually not be such a bad idea to have openly gay Generals. I love the thought of the look on our enemies faces when they see something that they consider sin, we promote to our highest ranks!

This is what I see as a problem and the difference between the Parties.

Dems see Republicans as The Enemy and see America's enemies as neutral at worst and best friends in many cases.

Republicans see Democrats as friendly competitors sometimes as rivals but never as enemies.

Since the Dems are fighting a war against Republicans then why not expect them to lie, cheat, blackmail, infiltrate spies, use double agents and all the other things done against an enemy in a war, a cold war so far.

78 Ashamed to be Dutch  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:30:11pm

re: #72 FishFearMe

OT: MrsFishFearMe's Grandpa is not expected to make it through the night as Alzheimer's has taken its inevitable course. His name is Aubrey. Prayers will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Sad news, Lizards will be with you in their sought and prayers

79 Dead Sea Squirrel  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:31:03pm

re: #72 FishFearMe

You got 'em

80 pat  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:32:21pm

Anderson Cooper=Democrat Stooge

81 tradewind  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:34:21pm

Dammit, doesn't the Smartest Lawyer in America understand that she can't get away with that that too-cute-by-half crap in the internet age?
Re General Kerr.. (or is it General CAIR?) ... demote that creep back to Bimbo Eruptions patrol. He's clearly not ready for YouTube.

82 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:35:04pm
83 Tumulus11  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:35:32pm

#75 realwest 11/28/07 10:28:50 pm

. Agreed, although Mr. Cooper may have been duped.

84 tommygum  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:36:03pm

re: #68 antiIslamist

Amazing!

85 NY Nana  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:36:41pm

re: #64 song_and_dance_man

The Ring Wraith Pelosi has many unknowing pawns.

Ah, Pelousy™:Shrillary almost makes her look good.

86 tommygum  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:37:36pm

re: #72 FishFearMe

OT: MrsFishFearMe's Grandpa is not expected to make it through the night as Alzheimer's has taken its inevitable course. His name is Aubrey. Prayers will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Said a prayer.

87 kynna  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:37:36pm

Somehow this fits with this thread. I can't think of how.

San Francisco okays issue of ID cards to illegals

Nice.

88 NY Nana  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:39:36pm

re: #72 FishFearMe

OT: MrsFishFearMe's Grandpa is not expected to make it through the night as Alzheimer's has taken its inevitable course. His name is Aubrey. Prayers will be appreciated. Thanks in advance.

He has my prayers, as well as your family. Please take care. This is not easy under any circumstances.

89 fortescue  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:39:47pm

[Link: likespring.livejournal.com...]

Link to picture of abortion question girl at democratic rally?

90 zombie  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:40:17pm

Speaking of "don't ask, don't tell" regarding sexual preferences:

I find it shocking and horrifying that the man in the following story was actually charged and convicted of a crime. We have no idea how good we have it here in the U.S. If this case had happened here, he NEVER would have been convicted of anything, and rightly so. Now, I'm no cyclophiliac, but the kind of totalitarianism that must exist to convict someone of a crime for the act of masturbating (or merely pretending to masturbate) while in this privacy of your own home is very scary.

What the hell am I talking about? Here it is:

Man wanking off with his bike AT HOME gets three years probation

A man caught trying to have sex with his bicycle has been sentenced to three years on probation.
Robert Stewart, 51, admitted a sexually aggravated breach of the peace by conducting himself in a disorderly manner and simulating sex.

Sheriff Colin Miller also placed Stewart on the Sex Offenders Register for three years.

Mr Stewart was caught in the act with his bicycle by cleaners in his bedroom at the Aberley House Hostel in Ayr.

Gail Davidson, prosecuting, told Ayr Sheriff Court: "They knocked on the door several times and there was no reply.

"They used a master key to unlock the door and they then observed the accused wearing only a white t-shirt, naked from the waist down.

"The accused was holding the bike and moving his hips back and forth as if to simulate sex."

Both cleaners, who were "extremely shocked", told the hostel manager who called police.

So, the guy is AT HOME, in private, drunkenly simulating sex with a bicycle. Where is the crime? Why weren't the maids charged with invading his privacy, if anything? The guy was not in public. He did nothing wrong. Can you rape a bicycle?

Shades of sharia, in which one's personal proclivities are considered a criminal matter.

This is being presented as a joke story, but it has serious implications.

91 Ashamed to be Dutch  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:41:20pm

re: #68 antiIslamist

[Link: www.liveleak.com...]

Unbelievable and beautiful ! Thanks' !

92 tradewind  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:41:25pm

re: #87 kynna

ID cards for illegals would be just another moonbat mistake, but SF's are special: they come packaged with glow-in-the-dark condoms, a pair of plastic handcuffs and matching whip, and a needle-exchange kit.

93 leepro  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:41:32pm

re: #69 song_and_dance_man

Hahaha!

94 zombie  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:43:39pm

re: #87 kynna

Somehow this fits with this thread. I can't think of how.

San Francisco okays issue of ID cards to illegals

Nice.

The REAL crazy part about that story is that, in a nod to the transgender lobby (seriously), no one will be allowed to have their gender specified on their ID cards, because gender "is a social construct" and is "malleable" and we shouldn't force everyone to identify with just one gender, should they decide to choose any number of other genders.

95 leepro  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:43:55pm

re: #72 FishFearMe

Goin' up now. And I also pray for you and other family members.

Sweet release.

96 Jimmy the Notable  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:44:07pm

This is my first post here! I begged Charles to send just one mention of an open registration through the RSS feed and he caved! Thank you! This website is the reason I vamped up my RSS reading capabilities. I got Google Reader, and then got the Firefox plugin for it so that I'm immediately alerted. Then I realized registration notifications usually weren't sent through the feed. I was depressed. Finally I'm here! Sorry if this is way off topic, just wanted to say hi.

And as for Hillary, I'm from New York, and she's a lousy carbetbagger as far as I'm concerned. All of her dirty tricks are just par for the course.

97 profitsbeard  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:44:12pm

Wouldn't want him planted in my foxhole.

98 victor_yugo  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:44:12pm

re: #55 unclassifiable

re: #49 psaturn

OK, Coulter/Malkin/Ham on MSNBC with Olberman as the moderator.

Happy?

How about Olbie on MSNBC, with Coulter, Malkin, and Ham as interrogators co-moderators. Maybe with Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Laura Ingraham and Tammy Bruce thrown in for good measure.

I'd be orgasmic at that one.

99 Ashamed to be Dutch  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:44:26pm

G'nite all, see you soon.

100 tommygum  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:45:57pm

G'night all.

101 Ashamed to be Dutch  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:46:30pm

re: #89 fortescue

[Link: likespring.livejournal.com...]

Link to picture of abortion question girl at democratic rally?

More info by Michele Malkin

102 Carridine  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:47:44pm

re: #11 Tumulus11


This was a set-up.

Was CNN careless or was it complicit?

Tumulus, CNN was complicit in either case, inasmuch as IF CNN was careless, it was the broadcast equivalent of Negligent Homicide!

CNN (and all other broadcast media) have a responsibility to strive to approach the truth, and because of this have a responsibility to actively take steps TO ELIMINATE CARELESSNESS. Period. (see Dan Rather, "Documents Are Genuine, but I may have been careless in verifying their provenance and mumble gurgy razzenfratz blah blah ...)

103 victor_yugo  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:48:57pm

OT:

"Who's on First," but...

104 tradewind  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:49:30pm

re: #96 Jimmy the Notable
Congratulations... it's not for sissies, trying to get registered as one of the few, the proud, the Green. But persistence, ...(and Preview)... is ultimately your friend.

105 Adina in Judea  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:49:43pm

re: #94 zombie

A couple I'd known from work a few years ago sent a birth announcement to people they'd known before they moved to San Francisco.

In the birth announcement, they refused to specify the baby's gender. They also gave the child a uni-name that could be given to a boy or a girl.

It wasn't a case where the baby had some gender ambiguity or anything like that (as a condition present at birth.) The parents decided that they didn't want to classify the child as a boy or a girl to people who were learning about the child's birth.

I still don't know the gender of their child, but I truly hope that they aren't dressing the little tyke to keep his or her gender a secret until the child is 21 (or something.)

106 FishFearMe  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:51:15pm

Thanks to my Lizard Family. Y'all are the best. G'nite.

107 Jimmy the Notable  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:51:15pm

The thing wrong with it all, is that they should be trying to get the voice of the people. If gays in the military is such a necessary topic, then they should've been able to find a Joe Shmoe to ask the question. If this Clinton guy was the only person interested in asking this question, then its obviously not a very serious issue in the eyes of the voters, and should be ignore. Of course that would never happen, A-Coop wanted keep it as controversial and tough as possible. Next debate I want Rush railing the Dems about Islamist Extremists all night.

108 leepro  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:51:33pm

re: #73 spidly

"I guess my question is, what kind of retard wants to socialize medicine in the US?"

Oh go ahead and call them motherf*ckingshiteatin'assholebastards, but don't insult retarded people.

Just so the new hatchlings will know, we don't like unkind talk around here.

~ snicker2

109 tradewind  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:54:09pm

re: #108 leepro
Retard...that's a verb meaning to hold back progress, I think. Some people pronounce it ree-tard, which in my part of the country means ' no longer working'.

110 Jimmy the Notable  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:55:23pm

re: #104 tradewind

Thanks, at first I tried to be persistant, just checking the site every half hour, but then registration would open when I was asleep or something and I feared I'd never get in. Then I discovered the magic of RSS and the rest is history.

111 tradewind  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:58:30pm

re: #102 Carridine

No way they didn't vet and approve that from the get-go. If there's anything that CNN knows (and it certainly isn't news) it's Who's Who in Slickville.

112 jasonkct  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:58:41pm

re: #90 zombie

Speaking of "don't ask, don't tell" regarding sexual preferences:

I find it shocking and horrifying that the man in the following story was actually charged and convicted of a crime. We have no idea how good we have it here in the U.S. If this case had happened here, he NEVER would have been convicted of anything, and rightly so. Now, I'm no cyclophiliac, but the kind of totalitarianism that must exist to convict someone of a crime for the act of masturbating (or merely pretending to masturbate) while in this privacy of your own home is very scary.

What the hell am I talking about? Here it is:

Man wanking off with his bike AT HOME gets three years probation

A man caught trying to have sex with his bicycle has been sentenced to three years on probation.
Robert Stewart, 51, admitted a sexually aggravated breach of the peace by conducting himself in a disorderly manner and simulating sex.
Sheriff Colin Miller also placed Stewart on the Sex Offenders Register for three years.

Mr Stewart was caught in the act with his bicycle by cleaners in his bedroom at the Aberley House Hostel in Ayr.

Gail Davidson, prosecuting, told Ayr Sheriff Court: "They knocked on the door several times and there was no reply.

"They used a master key to unlock the door and they then observed the accused wearing only a white t-shirt, naked from the waist down.

"The accused was holding the bike and moving his hips back and forth as if to simulate sex."

Both cleaners, who were "extremely shocked", told the hostel manager who called police.


So, the guy is AT HOME, in private, drunkenly simulating sex with a bicycle. Where is the crime? Why weren't the maids charged with invading his privacy, if anything? The guy was not in public. He did nothing wrong. Can you rape a bicycle?

Shades of sharia, in which one's personal proclivities are considered a criminal matter.

This is being presented as a joke story, but it has serious implications.

A bike huh? I one up you...

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Cops: Man Tried to Have Sex With a Fence

LONDON — Police claim an intoxicated man tried to have sex with a park fence, the Telegraph reported.

The 24-year-old allegedly made sexual motions toward a metal railing and said something to the effect of, "I'm going to have sex with that fence," the prosecutor is quoted as saying in the Telegraph.

Daniel French admitted to being drunk and disorderly, but denied saying he was going to have sex with a fence.

"The suggestion that I was trying to do something sexual to the railings is disgusting," said French, according to the Telegraph.

At least it wasn't an electric fence...

113 RadicalRon  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 10:59:01pm
#3 Noam Sayin'

I had a clinton plant but it died - no matter how much I "watered" it.


Noam the Whizzer

114 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:00:15pm
115 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:00:19pm
116 NY Nana  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:00:29pm

re: #106 FishFearMe

G'nite. Take care.

And g'nite, all.

117 Live4Truth  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:00:32pm
Gay General Gate...

It's interesting that the very first thing he says, is a listing of who he is and where he's been . . . but no mention about his present-day affiliation with Clinton for President. In other words, a willful deception. A set-up. Not very honorable there, general.

Besides that, the responses from the candidates could have been better. We had two responses:

1) "Whatever the military says is best for the mission they have to perform". That's pretty good, but it also raises questions about whether there should be women in combat. Much has been said and written about the problems caused by adding women, for example: Differences of physical strength; the need for separate facilities; men competing amongst themselves to gain the attention of the females; pregnancy; the tendency for men to be particularly protective of women (which can distract from the mission at hand), etc., and so if "whatever is best for the military" is the ultimate standard, then women-in-combat should be revisited.

2) "We have a lot of conservatives in the military, and this goes against their values." True, but that makes it sound like the ultimate standard is based on popular vote of those who are doing the fighting. That's not a terrible idea, but also is devoid of leadership.

The best argument I've heard against gays in the military is that you don't want people who are sexually attracted to each other, working and living together in tight quarters. It is distracting, and can lead to social problems.

118 kynna  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:01:15pm

re: #94 zombie

re: #87 kynna

Somehow this fits with this thread. I can't think of how.

San Francisco okays issue of ID cards to illegals

Nice.

The REAL crazy part about that story is that, in a nod to the transgender lobby (seriously), no one will be allowed to have their gender specified on their ID cards, because gender "is a social construct" and is "malleable" and we shouldn't force everyone to identify with just one gender, should they decide to choose any number of other genders.

Oh hellz, that's insane. I didn't realize that. I was appalled enough at the illegals with IDs part (and that the main purpose is supposedly to get health services). And I guess it would be outlandish to expect that any photo would demand full face reveal? Will there even be a photo?

119 dry_heavz_4_alla  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:02:01pm

re: #102 Carridine

re: #11 Tumulus11


This was a set-up.
Was CNN careless or was it complicit?

Tumulus, CNN was complicit in either case, inasmuch as IF CNN was careless, it was the broadcast equivalent of Negligent Homicide!

CNN (and all other broadcast media) have a responsibility to strive to approach the truth, and because of this have a responsibility to actively take steps TO ELIMINATE CARELESSNESS. Period. (see Dan Rather, "Documents Are Genuine, but I may have been careless in verifying their provenance and mumble gurgy razzenfratz blah blah ...)

I'm certainly no fan of CNN, but thier damage-control on this is at least a refreshing change from what I was expecting. Here's how they are now reporting this:

"A retired brigadier general Keith Kerr, who is gay, asked candidates if they thought U.S. military personnel were professional enough to work with gay and lesbian troops.

CNN later learned that Kerr served on Clinton's lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender steering committee.

David Bohrman, CNN senior vice president and executive producer of the debate, said, "We regret this incident. CNN would not have used the general's question had we known that he was connected to any presidential candidate." Political Ticker" (

120 Killgore Trout  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:02:52pm

re: #101 Ashamed to be Dutch

Wow. Check out the Little Shop of Horrors Update:


Little Shop of Horrors Update: Another plant? David Cercone who asked the Log Cabin question and said he was of Pompano Beach, FL. Same guy?

Again, as an American who is living under the tyranny of a dubiously elected wannabe dictator, please world forgive us and know that Bush and Bolton are not representative of the majority of Americans. God help us all.
David Cercone, Fort Lauderdale, Florida

Yep. Mr. Log Cabin Republican questioner is an Obama plant.


It just keeps getting worse.

121 dry_heavz_4_alla  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:05:09pm

(continued from above) ... This sounds like they were actually duped, but it's hard to believe that something like this just slipped by their screeners ... unless they're admitting that they're actually that incompetent.

122 CurlyDave  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:05:12pm

The big loser in this is Hillary.

I don't think most people knew she even had a "Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transexual Americans For Hillary Steering Committee".

Sure, gay rights is a legitimate issue and every politician needs a position on it, and maybe even an advisor or two, but do they need an entire steering committee?

123 tacodawn  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:07:09pm

The LINCOLN LOG guy is a Obama supporter!

Hmmm.

Gay General for Hillary
Abortion Chick for Edwards
Lincoln Log (Log Cabin Republican) for Obama

5000 youtubes submitted...What are the odds?

124 jman68  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:07:25pm

Malkin has a story on an Obama and an Edwards plant as well.
plants, plants, plants...

125 tradewind  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:07:39pm

David Bohrman, CNN senior vice president and executive producer of the debate, said, "We regret this incident. CNN would not have used the general's question had we known that he was connected to any presidential candidate."
This sooo fits the Hillary M O...
She couldn't remember where she left the documents the FBI requested.
She had no idea how she turned water into wine, figuratively speaking, on a cattle futures trade.
She knew nothing about her brother's buddies' pardons.
And she never had any idea that Bubba was birddogging interns.
She's just too damn dumb to run the country.
Just saying.

126 dry_heavz_4_alla  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:08:01pm

re: #122 CurlyDave

The big loser in this is Hillary.

I don't think most people knew she even had a "Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transexual Americans For Hillary Steering Committee".

Sure, gay rights is a legitimate issue and every politician needs a position on it, and maybe even an advisor or two, but do they need an entire steering committee?

Certainly doesn't sound like a committee where anyone is streering straight.

127 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:08:32pm

We all saw CNN in action before the second Gulf war, and they were spouting Sadaams lies as factual truth and as usual, anything released by the American military was suspect as far as CNN was concerned. CNN's profit motive for lying to the American and global audience was not investigated for obvious reasons. We watched the 2004 elections go down with such luminary reporting by the media of the non-investigation of any of the allegations by the Swift Boat veterans against Kerry whilst dragging up and vetting questionable memo's that it only took the Internet blogs less than a day to prove as false. The 2008 elections are on the road to even more left wing bias than displayed in 2004. The problem is, that with a couple of million fact-checkers on the Internet, the lies no longer are un-answered. The Republican party will not speak out against biased reporting against them (guess they are used to it), left to the Republicans, we would all believe these questions were all just from average Americans. Now we know CNN definition of average the American; Gay, Female, Military, and Democrat.

128 jman68  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:09:01pm

re: #124 jman68

sorry, old news I guess...

129 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:09:09pm
130 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:09:45pm
131 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:10:58pm

re: #122 CurlyDave

Or that she has a membership card.

/the times they are a changin'

132 Dead Sea Squirrel  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:13:23pm

re: #90 zombie
Man wanking off with his bike AT HOME gets three years probation

That calls for a song:

I've got a bike
You can ride it if you like
It's got a basket
A bell that rings
And things to make it look good
I'd give it to you if I could
But I borrowed it

You're the kind of girl that fits in with my world
I'll give you anything
Everything if you want things

133 leepro  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:13:27pm

re: #94 zombie

"...and we shouldn't force everyone to identify with just one gender, should they decide to choose any number of other genders."

Yeah, really! There are so many to choose from. Hmmm #1...? Or #2...?

Let's see... I've got these two things up here, and nothing much down there... hmmm... which one to pick...?

134 dry_heavz_4_alla  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:13:50pm

re: #128 jman68

re: #124 jman68

sorry, old news I guess...

Not old to me ... thanks for the link :)

135 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:13:51pm
136 Ledger1  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:13:57pm

What a disgusting trick.

This type of partisan politics from CNN has become come the norm.

I did not watch this debate because it had the CNN odor. I have not watched CNN for over three years and I will not watch anything from CNN period.

137 Dotcoman  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:14:54pm

re: #49 psaturn

re: #30 unclassifiable

OK For the next debate lets have the Dems on Fox being quizzed by Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin, and Mary Katherine Ham?

Seems Fair.

I believe Democrats said they would NOT appear on Fox...

Yeah, and for just that reason too.

Just imagine the Lib Socialists thinking they are going to walk out on stage and get softball questions from Hannity and Colms, and maybe some tougher questions from Brit, Chris, O'Reilly and Gibson, and then...The girls walk out to moderate instead. Oh and just for good measure though in Laura Ingram too.

The dems would spontaneously combust.
Hitlary would be climbing the walls like a rat trying to escape a sinking ship.

We aught to be drafting a Coulter - Malkin ticket.
Oh just think of the Hate and Discontent!

138 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:14:59pm

Deception. Plain and simple.
When you ain't got game, you cheat.

Imagine my surprise over this Left Wing maneuver.

Power to the Correct People!

139 victor_yugo  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:15:07pm

re: #130 song_and_dance_man

I'm gonna get in trouble with many.

Not with me.

My position on "gay rights": they're outlined in the Constitution, as amended.

140 leepro  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:17:05pm

re: #96 Jimmy the Notable

This is my first post here! I begged Charles to send just one mention of an open registration through the RSS feed and he caved! Thank you! This website is the reason I vamped up my RSS reading capabilities. I got Google Reader, and then got the Firefox plugin for it so that I'm immediately alerted. Then I realized registration notifications usually weren't sent through the feed. I was depressed. Finally I'm here! Sorry if this is way off topic, just wanted to say hi.

And as for Hillary, I'm from New York, and she's a lousy carbetbagger as far as I'm concerned. All of her dirty tricks are just par for the course.

Hi, and welcome, Jimmy. You are one very Notable new hatchling!
[snort]

Don't forget to read the rules. They have a big stick!

;-D

141 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:17:34pm
142 Wild Thing  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:17:44pm

It is Hillary haunting the Republican debate. I wish we had never heard of either of the Clintons. grrr
They have their "gates" up the wazzoo and it will never end.

143 RadicalRon  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:19:20pm
#96 Jimmy the Notable

This is my first post here!


Welcome home!

Now, about that round of drinks . . .

144 fortescue  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:20:30pm

CNN duped again?

Rifleboy looks like he was playing games with CNN as well. Looks like he has had some fun playing amateur politics at his you tube site.

[Link: youtube.com...]

a couple of his videos are fake republican debates

145 IslandLibertarian  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:21:30pm

OT :Global Warming Cured!

Astronomers say 22-million-ton asteroid could slam into Earth in 2036, taking out a large city or creating a massive tsunami

I'll bet it's Cheney's doing...or Rove...

Power to the Correct People!

146 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:22:12pm

As far as sex with a bicycle in the privacy of ones residence, what you do in private is your own business, and most of us do not care about the details. The problem in this instance is that the "perp" was not in a private residence. He was in a "hostel" or boarding house, not his home. Under the circumstances, privacy is not assured. Personally if I was the cleaners, I would of shut the door and continued on to the next room, and tried to forget about what I had just saw. I would hope the case would be dropped by the prosecutor on grounds of common sense. But nowadays prosecutors look at cases like this as media events to elevate their careers.

147 fortescue  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:22:41pm

Update re CNN duped again

Based on date of video on his site. This question was taped 7 months ago. see on line presidential debate 1.1

148 victor_yugo  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:22:49pm

re: #133 leepro

re: #94 zombie

"...and we shouldn't force everyone to identify with just one gender, should they decide to choose any number of other genders."

Yeah, really! There are so many to choose from. Hmmm #1...? Or #2...?

Or any irrational number in between.

While I don't truck with this couple's intention to de-genderize their kid, I have a side interest in gender expression in humans. It amounts to an inverted bell-curve: most of us are at one end or the other, but there are a few here and there that sit somewhere in between "male" and "female". Their situations and coping mechanisms intrigue me (as does just about any "experience from the edge of humanity": near-death, mental illness, extreme sports, etc.).

149 MrArchieBunker  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:23:41pm

I know a 'Log Cabin Republican' (via the 'net). He's smart, informed, articulate and a real asset to the party. I'm fundamentally a live and let live kinda guy. Having said that, no 'logs' are gonna find their way into my 'cabin'.

150 tradewind  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:24:15pm
And as for Hillary, I'm from New York, and she's a lousy carpetbagger as far as I'm concerned


(Oh, carpetbagger. Well, yeah, that too).

151 LEGION  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:24:33pm

cnn- the clinton news network- why bother watching anything on that channel? Fox News or LGF I say. The rest is a *yawn* waste of my time.

152 leepro  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:26:09pm

re: #109 tradewind

LOL!

My neck of the woods, too! Where are you? I'm in Germantown, TN (just outside of Memphis).

BTW, he/she used "retard" as a noun. Several others have asked folks to refrain from using that term, because someone here might have a retarded child (or other family member). In that sense, "retard" has always meant as the worst insult — at least it was when I was in high school, back in the Dark Ages.

153 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:26:34pm

re: #142 Wild Thing

It is Hillary haunting the Republican debate. I wish we had never heard of either of the Clintons. grrr
They have their "gates" up the wazzoo and it will never end.

It's hardly like we don't like looking under rocks.

/it's amazing we keep finding things of significance, although in the Clintons' defense, they have a lot to defend, less than a year to go, the Dieppe playbook probably won't save them this time

154 victor_yugo  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:26:45pm

re: #145 IslandLibertarian

OT :Global Warming Cured!

Astronomers say 22-million-ton asteroid could slam into Earth in 2036, taking out a large city or creating a massive tsunami

I'll bet it's Cheney's doing...or Rove...

Nah, it's just the Mayan calendar and the Unix time system running out simultaneously.

155 Dotcoman  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:28:24pm

re: #98 victor_yugo

re: #55 unclassifiable

re: #49 psaturn

OK, Coulter/Malkin/Ham on MSNBC with Olberman as the moderator.

Happy?

How about Olbie on MSNBC, with Coulter, Malkin, and Ham as interrogators co-moderators. Maybe with Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Laura Ingraham and Tammy Bruce thrown in for good measure.

I'd be orgasmic at that one.

Man, that would be mind blowingly fun. Good call on the additions of Ingraham, Ali, and Bruce too.

I think we should have the whole pack get together.
My eyes roll up into the back of my head, at the possibilities.

156 mountain  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:28:41pm
157 LoFlyer  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:28:46pm

151, starting to get tired of even Fox, they talk a good game, but the rank and file reporter graduated from Princeton, Columbia, or Emory and are 95 percent left-wing Democrats. They would love to work for CNN.

158 latitude51  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:31:16pm

re: #132 Dead Sea Squirrel

159 Abu Maven  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:33:39pm

Any car-b-cue action in Fwance tonight?

160 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:34:03pm
161 MrArchieBunker  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:35:28pm

re: #156 mountain

Mountain: Excellent research! Consider e-mailing Michelle Malkin about this, she is busting the plants.

162 Killian Bundy  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:36:17pm

re: #156 mountain

And it looks like the Log Cabin Republican questioner is an Obama supporter.

/excellent catch, again, who the [expletive deleted] is in control of the RNC?

163 fortescue  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:41:47pm

re: #156 mountain

And it looks like the Log Cabin Republican questioner is an Obama supporter.

Looks like he maybe a troother too! Check out his other video question
to Guil "Why did you put the terrorist command center in the world trade center?"

164 leepro  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:42:31pm

re: #147 fortescue

Update re CNN duped again

Based on date of video on his site. This question was taped 7 months ago. see on line presidential debate 1.1

LINK?

165 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:43:17pm
166 mountain  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:43:34pm

re: #161 MrArchieBunker

re: #162 Killian Bundy

I actually got that from a commentor at Ace of Spades, so i can't take credit.

167 RadicalRon  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:43:44pm

The Hillary Ilyich plants are easily explained: James Carville & Paula Begala.

Both are devout Clintonista and both are/have been employed by which media outlet outhouse?

Even the losers at PMSNBC will have fun with this.

168 fortescue  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:45:50pm

re: #164 leepro

re: #147 fortescue


Update re CNN duped again

Based on date of video on his site. This question was taped 7 months ago. see on line presidential debate 1.1


LINK?

[Link: youtube.com...]

look down videos, two have same picture, one is 9:59 long. recorded 7 months ago. The question is cut from that video.

169 kynna  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:47:32pm

Every time I glance at this headline my brain reads it as "Gay General Cafe".

I bet the scones are great!

170 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:48:13pm
171 7000 romaine  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:48:38pm

anderson gave the gay general all that time because he himself is a closeted gay and probably would like to prance out of the closet if the gay agenda took hold--as it is he can't because the folks in flyover country would reject him as a major news anchor and his demo would go out the window [his image is one of a go getting tough street reporter turned anchor and would be diluted] if he had any cojones he would have followed up with a "gays in the news anchor chair" question--he must be one very conflicted guy

172 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:51:52pm

Is this the DT yet?

OT:
New York Judge Tossed From Bench After 'Inexplicable Madness'; Booked Courtroom After Cell Phone Rang

And how many people wish they could do this. :)

173 victor_yugo  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:52:14pm

re: #171 7000 romaine

he can't because the folks in flyover country would reject him as a major news anchor

You mean they haven't already?

174 Ledger1  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:52:28pm

I’ll say it again folks, CNN and the MSM cannot be trusted one bit. They lie at every opportunity.

175 MrArchieBunker  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:52:40pm

Thanks for the update mountain. These 'youtube' debates are a joke. An insult to the intelligence really. I was a debater in high school, what we have seen so far is to debate what Media Matters is to honest reporting.

176 Racer X  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:52:48pm

CNN - b0ned by Youtube.

ouch!

177 leepro  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:53:11pm

re: #166 mountain

re: #161 MrArchieBunker

re: #162 Killian Bundy

I actually got that from a commentor at Ace of Spades, so i can't take credit.

Pass it on to Michelle anyway, and tell her where you got it. They share stuff all the time!

178 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:53:23pm
179 Jimmy the Notable  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:54:04pm

re: #171 7000 romaine

[his image is one of a go getting tough street reporter turned anchor and would be diluted]

I'm not so sure about that. To me his image is that of a male model dressing like what male models think street toughs dress like. And he's failing miserably at that. I just plum hate the man, to be honest.

180 kynna  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:56:22pm

re: #170 song_and_dance_man

re: #169 kynna

Every time I glance at this headline my brain reads it as "Gay General Cafe".

I bet the scones are great!

Stay away from the Hot Dogs.

Ew. I had such a lovely picture in my head of the Gay General Cafe with it's frothy coffee drinks and delicious Vietnamese cinnamon scones and and now it's tainted with ... ew.

181 WideAwake  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:57:18pm

Shit! All my fellow Lizards crack me up! This thread is chock full of wit and insults and it makes my day (night)!

182 mountain  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:57:28pm

re: #177 leepro


Looks like Michelle already has it.

183 BlueCanuck  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:57:39pm

re: #180 kynna

re: #170 song_and_dance_man


re: #169 kynna
Every time I glance at this headline my brain reads it as "Gay General Cafe".
I bet the scones are great!
Stay away from the Hot Dogs.

Ew. I had such a lovely picture in my head of the Gay General Cafe with it's frothy coffee drinks and delicious Vietnamese cinnamon scones and and now it's tainted with ... ew.

Brain bleach is on the buffet--->

/needed a lot around here.

184 WideAwake  Wed, Nov 28, 2007 11:58:28pm

#171

Cooper is not closeted. He's loud and he's proud!

185 Ledger1  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:01:41am

If CNN is willing to go this far, why not have a clip of Rage Boy included in the “questions.”

186 leepro  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:02:37am

Tradewind, you still here?

187 freedomplow  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:03:15am

A saboteur.

Ron Paul supporter admits trying to sabotage leading republicans.

In the comment section.

TheHoustonKid (4 hours ago)

this was actually one of my mor eunimportant issues. THe real intintion of this was to get a major candidate to attack me or blow me off and therefore hurting their southern base

188 Rain Patriot  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:04:51am

re: #171 7000 romaine

I have plenty of reasons to reject him as a major news anchor that have nothing to do with something as irrelevant as his sexuality

189 Jimmy the Notable  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:06:37am

re: #187 freedomplow

Its almost comical the degree to which CNN screwed up in choosing who asked questions.

Then I remember this is supposed to be helping us choose the leader of the free world. After that, its not as comical.

190 Rain Patriot  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:06:49am

re: #187 freedomplow

A saboteur.

Ron Paul supporter admits trying to sabotage leading republicans.

In the comment section.

TheHoustonKid (4 hours ago)

this was actually one of my mor eunimportant issues. THe real intintion of this was to get a major candidate to attack me or blow me off and therefore hurting their southern base


Wait... so they're admitting Ron Paul isn't a "major candidate"?

The end is near...!

191 RadicalRon  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:07:51am

Other than Nancy Grace & Jack Cafferty, Anderson Cooper is the best the CNN family Propaganda Ministry can offer.

They should never have fired Aaron Brown. He was just as good - maybe better - than the star at PMSNBC, Keith Uberschmuck.

192 theheat  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:11:36am

If the nominees are going to fall apart answering loaded questions, no matter how underhanded they might be, do they really have what it takes to cut it as president? Since when have politics ever been clean?

I want someone who can take just about anything that gets thrown their way. Loaded questions from moonbat plants will be the least of their problems once their butt hits the oval office. I say bring them on and see how they think on their feet.

I also recommend spelling bees, and maybe arm wrestling, just to be sure.

193 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:13:05am
194 Mister Ghost  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:16:18am

A gay general. It gives a whoe new meaning to the term Rear Echelon.

195 Buster Bunny  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:20:04am

Dear Sirs,

My name is Abu Mutombo Karaseki the Third ...

I am the prince of a little known Nigerian Islamic Republic in a place called Nigeria ...

Due to unforseen circumstances ... a load of nuclear materials i was to recieve and place in the wrong hands has now gone missing. I therefore entreat to you being a good and honest person ... that I now need a place to stick my 600 million in useless american dollars into something a bit more secure .. such as gold .. or .. slave girls with hot clothing (preferably not males). Since I have the lslamic limit of 4 wives .. I would be interested in a nice nubile camel or maybe a young boy.

In return for sealing this deal ... I will give you 30% of this transaction .. this means about 90m dollars .. maybe two camels and only a maximum of two young boys ... I trust in your confidence and hope you can keep this transaction discreet.

Yours in treaty,
Abu

/sarc

196 Carl in Jerusalem  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:21:16am

Good Morning Dead Thread!

Whose issue is Jerusalem? Israel's or the Jewish people's?

197 Buster Bunny  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:22:32am

just another dead thread .. play along .. sit still and let the messages flow around you ...

OMMM ...

198 victor_yugo  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:22:57am

re: #196 Carl in Jerusalem

Good Morning Dead Thread!

Whose issue is Jerusalem? Israel's or the Jewish people's?

Yes.

199 redc1c4  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:23:30am

maybe it's just me, but why hasn't anyone taken the next logical step in this discussion?

these debates are all allegedly done through youtube.

we have seen how youtube will leave up islamofascist propaganda and not block the accounts of the posters of same, but rushes to delete things like the anti-torture website and videos from MNF-I PAO...

why is it hard to believe that they aren't involved in screening/selecting the "correct" videos? how many good solid questions quietly went straight to dev/null while the previously arranged/scripted chosen few went to number one?

/i'm *not* cynical, just experienced. %-)

200 BlueCanuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:24:22am

re: #195 Buster Bunny

Dear Sirs,

My name is Abu Mutombo Karaseki the Third ...

I am the prince of a little known Nigerian Islamic Republic in a place called Nigeria ...

Due to unforseen circumstances ... a load of nuclear materials i was to recieve and place in the wrong hands has now gone missing. I therefore entreat to you being a good and honest person ... that I now need a place to stick my 600 million in useless american dollars into something a bit more secure .. such as gold .. or .. slave girls with hot clothing (preferably not males). Since I have the lslamic limit of 4 wives .. I would be interested in a nice nubile camel or maybe a young boy.

In return for sealing this deal ... I will give you 30% of this transaction .. this means about 90m dollars .. maybe two camels and only a maximum of two young boys ... I trust in your confidence and hope you can keep this transaction discreet.

Yours in treaty,
Abu

/sarc

Ahem, for your perusal. Scambaiting.

/enjoy

201 victor_yugo  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:26:39am

re: #195 Buster Bunny

I nominate you for an Iowahawk award!

202 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:27:19am
203 IslandLibertarian  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:33:28am

one more OT: Kauai got 6" of Rain...
The North Shore will be 15'-20' tomorrow...
and it's snowing on Mauna Kea...
Good night and God Bless.

Power to the Correct People!

204 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:33:48am

OT
On the Phillips on Annapolis thread, some people were affirming that the Catholic Church teaches "Replacement Theology".
Curiously, yesterday Babba Zee showed me exactly the contrary.
I believe Babba.

205 fortescue  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:33:50am

What was to be gained by exposing rather-gate? Scare the lefty msm straight? expose it! Dog them! Fight! Never surrender!

206 BlueCanuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:35:14am

re: #204 MigueldowninMexico

Good Morning Miguel. How goes it.

207 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:36:33am

re: #206 BlueCanuck

re: #204 MigueldowninMexico

Good Morning Miguel. How goes it.

Fine, thanks :)
How about you?

208 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:41:51am
209 Buster Bunny  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:42:03am

re: #200 BlueCanuck

re: #195 Buster Bunny


Ahem, for your perusal. Scambaiting.

/enjoy

yup .. thought i'd add a 419er with a nuke twist.

210 BlueCanuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:48:00am

re: #207 MigueldowninMexico

Doing fine looking forward to my weekend. Starts at 8am EST.

/needs lots of sleep.

211 Buster Bunny  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:48:20am

... silence ...

wonder why they call this a dead thread?

... echo chamber ...

AAARGH !

stop sleeping and start ... topics !

212 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:48:32am
213 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:51:11am
214 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:52:50am

re: #210 BlueCanuck

re: #207 MigueldowninMexico

Doing fine looking forward to my weekend. Starts at 8am EST.

/needs lots of sleep.

So, you work on weekends?

215 Buster Bunny  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:53:06am

re: #213 song_and_dance_man

The truth is always a hard thing to bear.

I know, I've had it in my backpack.

I lent the truth to a friend once .. he misused it with the result that I couldnt handle the truth when it got back to me. So now I have a handful of broken truths ... once lent .. now .. forgotten.

Shit .. why arent I working at Annapolis this season .. I've got enought broken truths to share !

216 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 12:53:42am

re: #214 MigueldowninMexico

Sorry hehehe.
I understood the contrary. I get it now, excuse me.

218 Mal' Rider  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:00:34am

re: #198 victor_yugo

re: #196 Carl in Jerusalem

Good Morning Dead Thread!

Whose issue is Jerusalem? Israel's or the Jewish people's?

I have to go with Israel.

/A secular citizen currently living in Israel ought to have at least as much say regarding the future of Jerusalem as a Jew living elsewhere.

219 BlueCanuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:02:05am

re: #214 MigueldowninMexico

re: #210 BlueCanuck


re: #207 MigueldowninMexico

Doing fine looking forward to my weekend. Starts at 8am EST.

/needs lots of sleep.


So, you work on weekends?

Nah, I work weekdays.

/or is it weeknights. Night shift messes the mind, and time call.

220 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:03:38am
221 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:04:10am

re: #219 BlueCanuck

No wonder I always find you here in the wee hours lol.

I'm so used to be awaken at night, that I get confused when I get up early in the morning ;)

222 littleoldlady  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:05:43am

re: #196 Carl in Jerusalem

Good Morning Dead Thread!

Whose issue is Jerusalem? Israel's or the Jewish people's?

How good a job have you done of educating them as to the importance of a united City of Jerusalem to the Jewish people?

You don't want to know. :-(

223 Killian Bundy  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:07:03am

It's not visually much.

/but You Tube's slacking

224 BlueCanuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:07:19am

re: #221 MigueldowninMexico

My problem is dealing with the daywalkers in the winter. Up at 1600 and it's dark out. if it wasn't for clocks I would be a real mess. :)

225 Carridine  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:07:37am

re: #221 MigueldowninMexico

re: #219 BlueCanuck
No wonder I always find you here in the wee hours lol.

I'm so used to be awaken at night, that I get confused when I get up early in the morning ;)

And now this dang Irtnanet comes along and has people from Bangkok afternoons typing for people in the depths of California nights and European dawns...

/Stan getz interesting, Blue, melodically...

226 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:09:27am

re: #225 Carridine

Karridine:
I love the internet ;)

227 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:10:00am

{littleoldlady}
Good morning :)

229 BlueCanuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:12:38am

re: #220 song_and_dance_man

Ok It's offical, I don't understand a thing you said. ?:P

230 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:12:54am

re: #224 BlueCanuck

I know that up there in Canada days vary a lot from season to season.
Down here the difference is not so big. It's never dark at 4 pm. ;)
The max difference -without counting DST- is an hour and a half from extreme, Dic 20+ to extreme, June 20+

231 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:13:57am

Carl
Google is just as the MSM.
They work for the enemy.

232 Jimmy the Notable  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:14:03am

re: #228 Carl in Jerusalem

If they didn't control the entire internet, I would try to boycott Google.

234 BlueCanuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:14:48am

Morning littleoldlady. Hows things going.

235 littleoldlady  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:15:37am

Miguelito! :-)

236 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:16:12am
237 BlueCanuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:16:48am

re: #230 MigueldowninMexico

re: #224 BlueCanuck

I know that up there in Canada days vary a lot from season to season.
Down here the difference is not so big. It's never dark at 4 pm. ;)
The max difference -without counting DST- is an hour and a half from extreme, Dic 20+ to extreme, June 20+

The worst I have seen was a time in the prairies one summer where it got dark around 2330. Rather annoying. Plus side was that the Aurora Borealis came out an hour later.

238 littleoldlady  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:18:40am

BlueCanuck! :-)

Well, let's see...the cat and dog decided to play [on the bed!] at 2:30 am. I got up and made coffee and poured milk into the sugar bowl instead of my coffee cup. I am now out of milk. And the worst news of all...

Somebody won the Powerball and it wasn't ME!

I'm...um...fine. How's by you? ;-)

239 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:20:00am

re: #237 BlueCanuck

re: #230 MigueldowninMexico

re: #224 BlueCanuck

I know that up there in Canada days vary a lot from season to season.
Down here the difference is not so big. It's never dark at 4 pm. ;)
The max difference -without counting DST- is an hour and a half from extreme, Dic 20+ to extreme, June 20+

The worst I have seen was a time in the prairies one summer where it got dark around 2330. Rather annoying. Plus side was that the Aurora Borealis came out an hour later.

The Aurora Boralis must be a wonderful sight- I've never seen one in my life, you lucky Canuck lol
If it was dark at 11:30 pm, you must have been quite up north.
Is there a part of Canada with "six months of day and six months at night"? Or that's still further North.

240 vxbush  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:24:34am

Ach-choo...

I dink I habe a code. I'm neber up dis early. Blech.

*sniff*

242 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:26:08am
243 littleoldlady  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:27:23am

re: #240 vxbush

Ach-choo...

I dink I habe a code. I'm neber up dis early. Blech.

*sniff*

That's why I never see you! {vxbush!} I'm glad to see you, but I'm sorry you're sick...

244 vxbush  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:29:42am

re: #243 littleoldlady

Oh, I take it you're off by the time I get to work? That makes sense. Gah, I feel terrible. I must have what my coworker calls the creeping crud.

245 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:30:49am

The authorities here have just burned thousands of toys for being dangerous to children.
Brand?
Mattel.
Made in?
China.

Hmmm...

246 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:31:36am

re: #244 vxbush

re: #243 littleoldlady

Oh, I take it you're off by the time I get to work? That makes sense. Gah, I feel terrible. I must have what my coworker calls the creeping crud.

Down a tequila with lots of lime.
It works ;)

247 JasonColeman  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:32:30am

Found another democrat plant, and ironically, it's the guy who asked the corn subsidies question, Ted Faturos.

He was an intern for Democrat Congresswoman Jane Harman.

[Link: www.jasoncoleman.com...]

248 BlueCanuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:33:24am

re: #238 littleoldlady

Sorry to hear about the powerball and the sugar bowl incident.
at least you are here. :)

re: #239 MigueldowninMexico

Further north actually. Had an Aunt that spent a coupl years in Dawson City, Yukon. Said that she finally understood the meaning of the phrase "Land of the Midnight Sun"

249 BlueCanuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:34:19am

re: #246 MigueldowninMexico

re: #244 vxbush


re: #243 littleoldlady

Oh, I take it you're off by the time I get to work? That makes sense. Gah, I feel terrible. I must have what my coworker calls the creeping crud.


Down a tequila with lots of lime.
It works ;)

For what? Or is the stuff in Mehico the good stuff?

250 vxbush  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:36:25am

re: #246 MigueldowninMexico

Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't drink. Long story. I do, however, have a plentiful stash of special drugs from my doctor to deal with stuff like this to dry me out, open me up, etc. I haven't had a cold in quite a while, so I'll have to really watch it. My asthma gets grumpy when I'm sick.

251 little blessing  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:38:03am

Hi everyone!

252 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:40:31am

re: #250 vxbush

re: #246 MigueldowninMexico

Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't drink. Long story. I do, however, have a plentiful stash of special drugs from my doctor to deal with stuff like this to dry me out, open me up, etc. I haven't had a cold in quite a while, so I'll have to really watch it. My asthma gets grumpy when I'm sick.

Sorry to hear that. I hope you get completely well soon. Take care of that asthma, please.

253 littleoldlady  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:41:28am

little blessing! :-)

254 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:42:27am

re: #249 BlueCanuck

Regardless of the quality of some specific tequila, it is a fact that some people can stop a cold dead on its tracks (lol) by gulping a couple of shots of tequila and lime.
This is a medicine prescription only ;)

255 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:43:03am

re: #251 little blessing

Hi everyone!

Hello little blessing!

256 BlueCanuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:43:59am

re: #254 MigueldowninMexico

I should hope so, I DON'T have painful memories of tekilla drunks.

/shudder shudder.
//not saying I haven't gotten drunk on tequila.

257 little blessing  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:45:11am

re: #253 littleoldlady

How you going? Its been a while. I just managed to peek my head through the backlog of paperwork when I got bowled back down by a "Ruddslide". Its good to be back.
: - )

re: #255 MigueldowninMexico

Hey Miguel!

258 BlueCanuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:45:41am

re: #251 little blessing

Morning little blessing. Welcome to the DT.

259 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:47:06am

re: #256 BlueCanuck

But in the case of curing a cold, it would be only a couple of shots.
Now, if you want, perhaps not to cure, but at least forget all your troubles, forget all your cares...
Tequila is the great amnesiasthic (wow).
You can even forget your name LOL

260 BlueCanuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:49:49am

re: #259 MigueldowninMexico

Wow big word. And yes I do know that power. Friends, aren't they great?

/thankful that was before digital, and cell phone cameras.

262 littleoldlady  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:51:25am

re: #257 little blessing

Do you get to vote "down there"or are you a furriner?

I'll bet you're getting the weather I wish we had now (?)

263 little blessing  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:51:53am

re: #258 BlueCanuck

Thanks for the welcome! Good Morning to you...Good Evening to me!

264 Carl in Jerusalem  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:52:21am

littleoldlady,

Can you spike my fruitcup please? Thanks.

265 vxbush  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:52:26am

re: #259 MigueldowninMexico

Isn't that what chocolate is for? :D

266 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:53:09am

re: #260 BlueCanuck

re: #259 MigueldowninMexico

Wow big word. And yes I do know that power. Friends, aren't they great?

/thankful that was before digital, and cell phone cameras.

Hahahahaha. I adhere completely to that last sentence! !
/Uff. so lucky LOL

267 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:54:42am

Canuck
The YouTube link was very interesting. It reminded me of Michener's Alaska.
Great book, as well as Hawaii, Texas, South Pacific, and so on.

268 little blessing  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:55:35am

re: #262 littleoldlady

Naa...no vote... unless you count my influencing others! (not much luck this time, unfortunately) Only citizens can vote and I'm just a permanent resident.

/furriner? Peter Garrett and the enviros will go mad

269 Sharmuta  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:56:46am

re: #261 Carl in Jerusalem

That's a great point- thanks for pointing it out. Keep up the good work. :)

270 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:57:03am

re: #265 vxbush

re: #259 MigueldowninMexico

Isn't that what chocolate is for? :D

I agree with you!
Here's some medicine...

271 BlueCanuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:57:12am

re: #267 MigueldowninMexico

I remember my mom reading that poem to me when I was a wee lad. She went the comedic route. This one was an interesting interpetation.
One of these days I will pick up one of the Michener works.

/still good.

272 littleoldlady  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 1:58:15am

re: #264 Carl in Jerusalem

littleoldlady,

Can you spike my fruitcup please? Thanks.

I've made a batch of Valium™ laced fruitcup. I'm hoping it works, at least a little. If not, next attempt is morphine...

Miguel has the bottle of tequila in his grubby little hands and he's not letting it go!

;-)

273 littleoldlady  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:00:05am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!*

/ *Attention all 800+ newbies as of this week! I made extra today just for you. I know some of you have to be out there. Have some fruitcup and join in!

274 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:00:47am

re: #272 littleoldlady

re: #264 Carl in Jerusalem

littleoldlady,

Can you spike my fruitcup please? Thanks.

I've made a batch of Valium™ laced fruitcup. I'm hoping it works, at least a little. If not, next attempt is morphine...

Miguel has the bottle of tequila in his grubby little hands and he's not letting it go!

;-)

Wat vottle pf te hic kilay?
Nott me!

276 Carl in Jerusalem  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:01:53am

re: #269 Sharmuta

re: #261 Carl in Jerusalem

That's a great point- thanks for pointing it out. Keep up the good work. :)

In my not-so-humble opinion it's far worse for Olmert to be saying that than it would have been for Bush to be saying that.

277 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:02:02am

re: #273 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet --->
Help yourselves!*

/ *Attention all 800+ newbies as of this week! I made extra today just for you. I know some of you have to be out there. Have some fruitcup and join in!

You're always so kind littleoldlady!

/Have some of that valium fruit cup yourself...

278 BlueCanuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:02:15am

re: #273 littleoldlady

Yeah! Fruitcup.

/healthy eating through little old ladies.

279 Carl in Jerusalem  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:03:12am

re: #272 littleoldlady

re: #264 Carl in Jerusalem

littleoldlady,

Can you spike my fruitcup please? Thanks.

I've made a batch of Valium™ laced fruitcup. I'm hoping it works, at least a little. If not, next attempt is morphine...

Miguel has the bottle of tequila in his grubby little hands and he's not letting it go!

;-)

I'd prefer the tequilla thanks. Even though my sleeping hours last night were 12:00 - 2:00 (a 'nap' that went awry) and 3:40 - 5:20 AM, I really need to stay awake today...

280 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:03:37am

I propose a name for the new dessert.
Valium-spiked fruitcup should be named:
Annapolis fruitcup!

281 Carl in Jerusalem  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:04:16am

re: #274 MigueldowninMexico

re: #272 littleoldlady

re: #264 Carl in Jerusalem

littleoldlady,

Can you spike my fruitcup please? Thanks.

I've made a batch of Valium™ laced fruitcup. I'm hoping it works, at least a little. If not, next attempt is morphine...

Miguel has the bottle of tequila in his grubby little hands and he's not letting it go!

;-)

Wat vottle pf te hic kilay?
Nott me!

Let me guess: you only drink straight rum.

/I've been drunk on the dead thread

282 BlueCanuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:04:18am

re: #280 MigueldowninMexico

I propose a name for the new dessert.
Valium-spiked fruitcup should be named:
Annapolis fruitcup!

Seconded

283 Carl in Jerusalem  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:05:21am

re: #280 MigueldowninMexico

I propose a name for the new dessert.
Valium-spiked fruitcup should be named:
Annapolis fruitcup!

Annapolis fruitcup would have to be spiked with something green...

284 BlueCanuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:05:23am

re: #281 Carl in Jerusalem

Let me guess: you only drink straight rum.

/I've been drunk on the dead thread

Careful, sounds like you're channelling the Ed of many names. :)

285 littleoldlady  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:05:24am

re: #280 MigueldowninMexico

I propose a name for the new dessert.
Valium-spiked fruitcup should be named:
Annapolis fruitcup!

DING! DING DING! We've got a winner!

286 BlueCanuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:05:55am

re: #283 Carl in Jerusalem

re: #280 MigueldowninMexico


I propose a name for the new dessert.
Valium-spiked fruitcup should be named:
Annapolis fruitcup!

Annapolis fruitcup would have to be spiked with something green...

Absinthe?

287 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:06:24am

Carl
I wish I could get some tequila to you.
Although I usually drink rum (which I hold fast to with my grubby little hands) lol

288 Sharmuta  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:07:38am

re: #276 Carl in Jerusalem

You're right. The equivalent for Bush would be to say we should negotiate with al-qaeda. Very sad. Hopefully the next administration will be better- and Israel will get better leadership as well.

289 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:08:03am

re: #284 BlueCanuck

re: #281 Carl in Jerusalem

Let me guess: you only drink straight rum.

/I've been drunk on the dead thread

Careful, sounds like you're channelling the Ed of many names. :)

LOL I thought about him too hahaha.

290 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:08:54am

re: #285 littleoldlady

re: #280 MigueldowninMexico

I propose a name for the new dessert.
Valium-spiked fruitcup should be named:
Annapolis fruitcup!

DING! DING DING! We've got a winner!

Danke, danke... ;)

291 vxbush  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:09:06am

re: #270 MigueldowninMexico

Yum, nice choice!

I'll have my fruitcup with chocolate, hot tea, and some decongestant and anti-histamine on the side.

292 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:10:48am

re: #291 vxbush

re: #270 MigueldowninMexico

Yum, nice choice!

I'll have my fruitcup with chocolate, hot tea, and some decongestant and anti-histamine on the side.

Tera-Flu.

(Is there Mega-Flu or Giga-Flu?)

293 BlueCanuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:12:03am

re: #292 MigueldowninMexico


Once you go Tera there's no need for a Mega or a Giga.

294 antiislamist  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:12:52am
295 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:14:44am

re: #293 BlueCanuck

re: #292 MigueldowninMexico


Once you go Tera there's no need for a Mega or a Giga.

That's correct.
But I'm a minimalist, I go Japanese. 3-verse poems and tiny trees (and houses) lol.
;)

296 vxbush  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:14:59am

re: #292 MigueldowninMexico

Heh.™ Actually, I think in a few more minutes I may be able to go back to sleep. That would be nice.

297 littleoldlady  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:15:28am

Chocola-Flu.

/always works for me!

298 Carl in Jerusalem  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:15:44am
299 Carl in Jerusalem  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:16:39am

re: #289 MigueldowninMexico

re: #284 BlueCanuck

re: #281 Carl in Jerusalem

Let me guess: you only drink straight rum.

/I've been drunk on the dead thread

Careful, sounds like you're channelling the Ed of many names. :)

LOL I thought about him too hahaha.

So did I...

300 BlueCanuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:16:56am

re: #294 antiislamist

I am speechless. :-*

301 vxbush  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:17:11am

re: #294 antiislamist

Makes the heart sick.

302 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:17:22am

re: #296 vxbush

re: #292 MigueldowninMexico

Heh.™ Actually, I think in a few more minutes I may be able to go back to sleep. That would be nice.

I wish you can. If you do, have a great sleep :)

303 vxbush  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:18:02am

re: #297 littleoldlady

You know, I bet we could create a drug like that a sell millions. But then, Ex-Lax tried that, and it caused more than a few problems.

304 vxbush  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:20:23am

re: #298 Carl in Jerusalem

Oh, man...and I was hoping that the selection of that former NATO general meant that someone was going to hold the Palestinians accountable for not meeting the demands to cease the terrorism. Dreaming, I know, but I had hope for one minute.

305 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:22:00am

re: #294 antiislamist

We don't have homosexual and prostitution in Iran...

Wow. That broke my heart.
Islam is a horrendous thing. It creates horrible societies.

Yes, everybody was about the same five centuries ago.
But the rest of the world has evolved and Islam...

What a sad article.

306 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:23:12am

re: #297 littleoldlady

Chocola-Flu.

/always works for me!

I know! The Allmighty Hershey's Solution ™!
;)

307 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:23:43am

Mornin. Mornin, Lol, Miguel, little one, Carl, Blue, vx...all.

Anyone up for singing a few bars of the Mullah Submarine?

Leader of the Islamic Revolution{aka: Da Fubar} Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei said Wednesday the most important support base of the armed forces is faith in Allah and strong belief in one’s own capabilities.
Speaking to a group of Navy personnel, the leader noted that planning and executing military strategy during the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq War is jut one example of the Iranian Army’s capabilities, ISNA reported.


Iran’s second submarine in the Ghadir class was launched in Bandar Abbas Wednesday marking the occasion of the annual Navy Day.

308 littleoldlady  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:25:53am

re: #303 vxbush

re: #297 littleoldlady

You know, I bet we could create a drug like that a sell millions. But then, Ex-Lax tried that, and it caused more than a few problems.

LOL!

309 antiislamist  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:25:57am

re: #305 MigueldowninMexico

disagree... we evolved in last 5 centuries yes... but even 5 centuries before... no non-muslim mother had sold her daughter,,,

310 vxbush  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:26:53am

Okay sleeptime for me.

311 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:28:10am

Carl
I know you were remembering him.
I can't believe I made some good friends here that suddenly are behaving in a very disappointing way.

And I don't mean political or religious points or whatever. A lot more simple than that.
The really bad insults to Charles. That's what makes me feel so disappointed. He's been such a nice host, even if I disagree with him, even if he bans me from here, it's such a bad feature to say demeaning things about him. Insults and outright lies among other things.

Ok, sorry for the mini rant.
Back to the original programing...heh

312 Killian Bundy  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:28:42am

Hillary isn't network compliant, her supporters damn well know that.

/avoid the crap, you have a choice

313 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:28:51am

re: #309 antiislamist

re: #305 MigueldowninMexico

disagree... we evolved in last 5 centuries yes... but even 5 centuries before... no non-muslim mother had sold her daughter,,,

HA!

314 littleoldlady  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:29:38am

aboo! :-)

315 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:30:01am

re: #307 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Hello aboo!
And the third sub is going to be sold to Venezuela.
Just wait and see.

316 littleoldlady  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:30:44am

'Night vxbush! Feel better...

317 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:30:58am

re: #310 vxbush

Okay sleeptime for me.

Sleep well and get back in shape soon! :)

318 MJBrutus  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:31:31am

re: #32 JoggerNot

I did notice it and was appalled! Showing the stars on the right is like raising it upside down on a poll. Entirely disgraceful and disrespectful and no doubt intentionally done by the Commie News Network.

319 antiislamist  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:33:48am

re: #313 MigueldowninMexico

what HA! ;) mahlzeit, ... nen guten,,,

320 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:40:35am

re: #319 antiislamist

re: #313 MigueldowninMexico

what HA! ;) mahlzeit, ... nen guten,,,

Chinese girls were being sold by the millions up to half a century ago. You can still buy a little indian Mexican girl in Oaxaca or Chiapas if you know who to contact. Girls in India are being sold up untill now, and the list goes on and on.
Das ist was ich meinte ;)

321 littleoldlady  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:49:04am

Chinese girls are being sold up to this day.

/I know people who've adopted them.

322 zombie  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:49:15am

re: #133 leepro

re: #94 zombie

"...and we shouldn't force everyone to identify with just one gender, should they decide to choose any number of other genders."

Yeah, really! There are so many to choose from. Hmmm #1...? Or #2...?

Let's see... I've got these two things up here, and nothing much down there... hmmm... which one to pick...?

Boy, are you out of the loop! There are many, many genders, my friend. Plenty of 'em. And people are switching them around all the time, just because they feel like it.

Why, from a little-seen earlier zombietime report, we have this quote from the Transgender Parade Website:

The Trans March is, according to the event's own website, a gathering of "ftm, mtf, bayot, crossdressers, sadhin, hijra, transvestites, bantut, drag queens, drag kings, mahu, transsexuals, bakla, travesti, genderqueers, kathoey, two spirit, intersex and those with other labels for themselves and no labels for themselves, those who see gender as having more than two options, and those who live between the existing options."

And that doesn't even include "boy" and "girl"!

Lest you think this is all crazytown stuff: it's now standard accepted wisdom at all universities, and is percolating down to high school instruction and earlier.

That whole "male/female" thing is so last millennium.

323 Render  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:50:04am

If that homemade Iranian sub actually works, (it has yet to be shown submerging or surfacing), it will in all probability serve the same functions as the rest of the Iranian subs, holding up a pier as a stationary power generator. The Persian Gulf remains jam packed with "enemy" warships, and the regular Iranian navy rarely ever ventures out into it.

===

Spent a few hours going over the Belgian military. It was kind of nostalgic in a weird way, I haven't done so, in depth, since the early '90's.

No more tanks or other tracked vehicles - Leopard I's being replaced one for one with Stryker variants. Less than 70 combat aircraft - All elderly F-16's. Two combined arms brigades, (how do they do that without tanks?), and a para/commando regiment.

The vast majority of the combat ready units (1st Brigade) are stationed/based in Flanders. Reserve (7th Brigade) and support units in Wallonia. Some small MP and commando type detachments spread all over the map.

The Wiki is surprisingly accurate, for being two years out of date...

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

PONDERING,
R

324 Geepers  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:50:48am

aboo-Hoo-Hoo (#307),From your link:

Speaking to a group of Navy personnel, the leader noted that planning and executing military strategy during the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq War is jut one example of the Iranian Army’s capabilities,

They're bragging about that?

325 akak  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:51:38am

Nato finally acknowledges Youtube's role in the Afghan war- by posting a video?

Al Sahab does not approve...

326 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:52:29am

re: #315 MigueldowninMexico

Mornin my friend. If I'm not mistaken I think ol' Yugo Hugo already has an order in for one from Putin. Can you imagine trying to get a crew to man a Mullah sinker? These third-world Islamofascist merdeholes aren't exactly known for their QA programs, yo-ho-ho at the bottom of the sea - and all that.

327 antiislamist  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:52:33am

re: #320 MigueldowninMexico

Chinese girls were being sold by the millions up to half a century ago. You can still buy a little indian Mexican girl in Oaxaca or Chiapas if you know who to contact.

Never tried those things... so can't say!

Girls in India are being sold up untill now, and the list goes on and on.


Only by Indian Muslims... in case of Hindus , there is other problem... they kill the female fetus...

328 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:54:52am

Render
How do you know the wiki is accurate?
Have you compared their figures with other sources?

Yes, this is the devil's advocate :p

329 littleoldlady  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:55:07am

Geepers! :-)

Sure...show up NOW, just when I have to leave. :-(

330 Geepers  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:56:40am

littleoldlady!

Sure...decide to leave, just when I get here.

331 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:56:54am

re: #324 Geepers

aboo-Hoo-Hoo (#307),From your link:

Speaking to a group of Navy personnel, the leader noted that planning and executing military strategy during the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq War is jut one example of the Iranian Army’s capabilities,

They're bragging about that?

A million dead man! Think of it! A million shaheed more in Paradise!
Thanks to that war the number of new virgins created increased by 72 million!

*looking oh-so-proud*

332 Carl in Jerusalem  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:57:53am
333 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 2:58:32am

re: #326 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

re: #315 MigueldowninMexico

Mornin my friend. If I'm not mistaken I think ol' Yugo Hugo already has an order in for one from Putin. Can you imagine trying to get a crew to man a Mullah sinker? These third-world Islamofascist merdeholes aren't exactly known for their QA programs, yo-ho-ho at the bottom of the sea - and all that.

I would never jump inside of one of those lol
Spooky!

334 littleoldlady  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:00:44am

re: #330 Geepers

littleoldlady!

Sure...decide to leave, just when I get here.

VeryBigSigh...it can't be helped.

Real.Life.Intrudes.

Good day, ALL!™

335 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:00:46am

I am beginning to feel like Diogenes with his lamp, searching for an honest and competent business in Lubbock. Literally everyone I have tried to do any major business with in recent weeks has turned out to be either a bungler or a scammer, from the unspeakably lame Xanadoo wireless non-service to the local appliance stores to the moron property managers who allegedly took care of my rental property and left the tenant without water for 6 days.

The worst are the internet scammers. This must be the hardest place in the world to get internet service. As expected the NTS fiberoptic installers did not show up today, after I had been promised they would be here "some time this morning." It has been a month to the day since I placed my order with these derelicts and paid my hundred dollars. I called them yesterday afternoon and told them to cancel the order, remove their half-installed junk from my property, and refund my payment. This puts me back at square one. I will not try wireless of any kind again in this area, since all scammers are now aware that there is no legal requirement for them to provide service at all after they take your money.

I called ATT and they gave the same "7 to 10 business days" delay as NTS. I told them that was totally unacceptable. Suddenlink Cable has a similar delay and the company is owned by serious moonbats anyway.
Apparently there are only two business days in a week here, because "7 to 10 business days" invariably means a month or more, with daily promises of imminent service going on indefinitely. I am tired of throwing money down a rathole.
This city is an ethical, governmental, and business disaster in every way possible.

I should have stayed in Paraguay, where they at least have people who return phone messages and show up the same day they promise, and internet service that is up to 2001 standards (it is still 1995 here if you're lucky).

336 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:01:03am

re: #327 antiislamist

Yes, they are killing femenine fetuses :(
And so are the Chinese and other Asians.

Some Hindus sell their girls into prostitution though.

337 little blessing  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:02:16am

re: #334 littleoldlady

Have a good one, Everybody. I'm out of here too.

338 Onslow  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:04:54am

Christian leaders abase themselves before Islam

by Bruce Thornton at City Journal

339 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:05:06am

Good bye to littleoldlady and little blessing!

/The little people are leaving...

340 zombie  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:06:08am

re: #335 Shiplord Kirel

So, Lubbock is third-world compared to Paraguay? That's serious. Lubbock -- who would have ever guessed? I always thought of it as the prototypical American mid-sized city.

I guess every place has a personality -- even if that personality leaves something to be desired.

341 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:15:48am

re: #338 Onslow

Christian leaders abase themselves before Islam

by Bruce Thornton at City Journal

Just beautiful...
Grrr...

342 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:20:42am

re: #340 zombie

re: #335 Shiplord Kirel

So, Lubbock is third-world compared to Paraguay? That's serious. Lubbock -- who would have ever guessed? I always thought of it as the prototypical American mid-sized city.

I guess every place has a personality -- even if that personality leaves something to be desired.

I've lived here most of my life and I just cannot believe the deterioration in the past few years. Nothing seems to work anymore. There are probably complex socio-cultural factors involved but the net result seems to be a spreading inability for people to understand simple cause and effect or equity relationships.

There seems to be a disconnect with age-old principles of life and society. If you take money for something, you are supposed to make a good faith effort to deliver the goods. If someone is depending on you, you make a good faith effort not to let them down.
Those ideas, common to our Cro-Magnon ancestors, seem laughable or alien to increasing numbers of people. Everything is about power now. They are proud of their ability to be habitually late (aping their celebrity gods no doubt) or to avoid a contract, written or verbal, or to deliver the bare miinimum necessary to avoid a court judgment or incarceration.

343 gettinby  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:21:25am

Mayor tells kids...STOP GLOBAL WARMING OR SANTA WILL DIE!

/Mayor of Seattle must be one really intelligent human, huh?

Hi everyone!

Miguel! :)

344 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:22:58am

re: #342 Shiplord Kirel

I blame education.
Schools are just making people stupid.

345 BlueCanuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:23:46am

Later folks real life just hit me with a Hammer. have to go for now. See you all on next dead thread.

/RL sucks, and so does work.

346 Jimmy the Notable  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:26:28am

re: #343 gettinby

Well I guess they're both equally real, if that counts for anything.

347 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:28:00am

re: #343 gettinby

Mayor tells kids...STOP GLOBAL WARMING OR SANTA WILL DIE!

/Mayor of Seattle must be one really intelligent human, huh?

Hi everyone!

Miguel! :)

Hello gettinby! :)

Did that moron also addressed the danger to Superman's fortress in the North Pole?
If he didn't he's an idiot, as Superman is key to the defense of Freedom and...
Oh, wait a minute, now I see why he didn't refer to Superman...

/My fairy godmother is going to know about this.
She loves to laugh at stupid people. ;)

348 whiterasta  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:29:55am

UK teacher n blasphemy case in "court" today.

[Link: uk.news.yahoo.com...]

If I were PM of Britain, I'd tell those barbarians if they harm one hair on her head, I'll burn their country down from North to South and from East to West.

Howzzat for diplomacy?

349 gettinby  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:30:51am

re: #346 Jimmy the Notable

Good morning and welcome to the fold!

re: #347 MigueldowninMexico

Yeah, it seems scaring the children is the new wave of popularity among the PCers! I think they think it's called having a sense of humor. (/sarc)

350 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:31:07am

re: #345 BlueCanuck

Bye, have a good day! :)

351 Mich-again  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:31:16am

re: #343 gettinby

Mayor tells kids...STOP GLOBAL WARMING OR SANTA WILL DIE!

I question the timing.

352 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:33:16am

re: #349 gettinby

re: #346 Jimmy the Notable

Good morning and welcome to the fold!

re: #347 MigueldowninMexico

Yeah, it seems scaring the children is the new wave of popularity among the PCers! I think they think it's called having a sense of humor. (/sarc)

That's behaving like a piece of you-know-what.
Grrr...

353 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:34:06am

re: #324 Geepers

Mornin Geepers. Cute little birps of backside gas aren't they? At minimum a couple hundred thousand dead, the children Key brigade...and now they really are preparing for a war against us. Whether we chose to acknowledge the fact or not.

Even as we speak we've missed an opportunity to cripple or flip the regime and throw it into chaos for years. There's a Mullah War going on right now between Yazdi, Ahmad's mentor & 12th Iman whack-job, and the Rafsanjani-Khatami faction for head of the Experts council & who's going to be the next Supreme Fubar. That's what this Nuclear negotiator spy case is all about and Ahmad's threats to clean-out the nest of spies ie, Rafsan & Co., and we can't find the muster to do a damned thing except watch.

354 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:37:58am

re: #315 MigueldowninMexico

re: #307 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Hello aboo!
And the third sub is going to be sold to Venezuela.
Just wait and see.

Morning all.
Let them build subs. They make good target practice.

355 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:38:15am

Hunting Down Che Guevara; The COIN Campaign of Ñancahuazú

The events of 40 years ago from a perspective that has rarely if ever been heard in the Che-loving media, that of the Bolivian military who actually tracked down and eliminated the murdering swine. This is important in light of the Che cult's continued popularity with the media-left, and the leftist take-over in Bolivia.

356 Geepers  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:39:52am

aboo-Hoo-Hoo (#353),

Cute little birps of backside gas aren't they?

lol. Yeah, that about sums it up.

357 gettinby  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:41:03am

re: #352 MigueldowninMexico

Grrr...

We need to start a GrrrList dot com site?

LOL (with clenched teeth)

By the way, when I said...

scaring the children

I meant as in "to scar" - but "to scare" works also.

358 Jimmy the Notable  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:43:28am

re: #349 gettinby

re: #346 Jimmy the Notable

Good morning and welcome to the fold!

re: #347 MigueldowninMexico

Yeah, it seems scaring the children is the new wave of popularity among the PCers! I think they think it's called having a sense of humor. (/sarc)

Good morning, and thanks! Good to be here.

359 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:44:02am

Turkey: 'Jesus tree' gets historical blessing

Some find him in their hearts. Some in church. Others, while walking on the beach checking for footprints. An enthusiastic Turk found him stuck on a tree.

An oak tree in the Dilek peninsula in the Aegean region is being protected by a state institution because of a growth that looks like Jesus on a cross.

360 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:52:01am

re: #354 Jim in Virginia

Hello Jim
You are right about those submarines lol

362 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:54:15am

re: #357 gettinby

I see, you meant the other one lol
Still, both scare and scar fit perfectly here, you're right.

363 MigueldowninMexico  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:55:23am

re: #358 Jimmy the Notable

Welcome! :)

Ok, now it's time for me to go.
Good bye and God bless all :)

364 gettinby  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:55:32am

O . M . G .

I "think" I just heard Jesse Jackson say something with which I agree!

So many mortgage loans are going bad...many foreclosures...instead of foreclosing...should re-structure the loans so as not to foreclose.

Makes sense to me. If the lenders starting doing so many foreclosures, somewhere in the process, wouldn't a bailout occur? (another tax dollar spent on something I disagree with)

By restructuring, sounds like a win-win-win situation.

/please forgive my simple mind.

365 gettinby  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:56:25am

G'night, Miguel.

366 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:57:21am

re: #354 Jim in Virginia

If only our Congress and Admin would take the opportunity to put them to good use.

...but don't get me started. ;)

367 fortescue  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 3:59:36am

re: #247 JasonColeman
wtg this is fun...

368 Q-Burn  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:06:22am

re: #364 gettinby

It makes sense, which is why it won't happen. The lenders really created their own problems with wacky no-money-down, adjustable, interest-only products to keep their gravy train rolling. In most cases, the people that made the loans are not the ones holding the bag now. That's why this will end in a federal bailout, with US holding the bag.

369 gettinby  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:13:10am

re: #368 Q-Burn

re: #364 gettinby

It makes sense, which is why it won't happen. The lenders really created their own problems with wacky no-money-down, adjustable, interest-only products to keep their gravy train rolling. In most cases, the people that made the loans are not the ones holding the bag now. That's why this will end in a federal bailout, with US holding the bag.

ROFL

Hmmm...

So, knowing they (the lenders) will probably be bailed out, there isn't much of a motivation for them to do the more sensible action which would benefit more people (homeowners and taxpayers).

Yeah, you're right. It makes too much sense, so it'll never happen.

370 antiislamist  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:13:42am

re: #336 MigueldowninMexico

No, thats not selling in prostitute ... devdasi basically is a concept equivalent to nuns in Christianity... but it has started taking a rude face in 6th century...

In 10th century it becames a ugly custom... which was more a showcase of temple power in brahminstic social society... Yet, two things are here to remember...

DevDasi litrally means, a women serving the G-D... how that custom changed in prostitute was never spoken under political correctness... yet the time frame conflicts itself with Islamic invasion in India (though devdasi were forbidden to have Muslims as partner in early stages...)

The "high class" peoples (so also rich) were involved in placing their dugthers in such ritual...instead of selling them...

371 Q-Burn  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:25:10am

re: #369 gettinby

In a previous life I was a realtor for most of the 80s. The lenders invented a bunch of wacky products in those days to get people into houses despite interest rates in the teens. One of was the "reverse equity mortgage". Basically, for the first 7 or 8 years of a 30 year mortgage, you made your payment every month and got deeper in debt.

I had to tell a young family with a newborn that they needed to bring a bunch of money to the closing table if they wanted to sell their house. Their only other alternative was to hand the keys back to the lender and walk away. Not fun. A lot of families are getting news like that now.

372 Sandi  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:25:22am

Anderson Cooper is gay...you can not tell me he did not know this guy was a Clinton person. They interviewed this guy at 2 pm that day. Google his name and ya get hits all over the place.

Another Clinton News Network scandal.

373 ec marm  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:28:40am

This is bad, very bad:

As peak heating season begins in the Northeast United States a pipeline fire and explosion in Clearbrook, Minnesota has suddenly removed two million barrels per day of supply into the United States.


If you live in the Northeast you may want to consider filling your heating oil tank soon.
No indication that it may be terror related but federal and state authorities have promised a thorough investigation.

374 gettinby  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:34:00am

re: #371 Q-Burn

Yes! A "negative amortization mortgage loan"?

Here's my story...

My ex and I bought a large home in Diamond Bar, Calif., and applied for a JUMBO negative amortization mortgage loan. Interest rates at the time were running around 14% iirc. Our thinking...we would fix up, improve and sell within 4 years (before the loan turned to the high fixed rate), OR our income would certainly go up enough to afford the fixed rate.

The real estate gods were with us. About a year into it, real estate started booming in the area, so our equity went up higher than the negative...AND...we sold before the end of the 4th year at a very nice profit.

Moral of the story...I didn't sleep or breathe for 42 months...wasn't worth it. Oh, and our marriage didn't last thru the high-stress.

375 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:38:48am

Welcome to LGF, csdeven!

376 Q-Burn  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:39:43am

re: #374 gettinby

I just got back from SoCal (where I'm from) and the real estate gods are angry.

377 Widow'smight  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:41:32am

re: #374 gettinby

He's a dope for letting a perty flower like you get away. Oh well, Mr G-by is the "Lucky" guy now.

My wife's friend was telling me about some Golden Retriever puppies being at the Animal Rescue League. The Queen says "So, are you going to go look at them?"

Does this mean she wants a puppy?

I need insight into the mind of a woman here.

378 gettinby  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:43:23am

re: #376 Q-Burn

re: #374 gettinby

I just got back from SoCal (where I'm from) and the real estate gods are angry.

LOL

They ain't too happy with us here in Tampa either! ! !

379 gettinby  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:44:07am

re: #376 Q-Burn

By the way, where in SoCal are you from?

/if you want to say.

380 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:45:12am

Oh, and mornin' Lizard Nation. Happy Thursday.

381 gettinby  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:46:28am

re: #377 Widow'smight

re: #374 gettinby

He's a dope for letting a perty flower like you get away. Oh well, Mr G-by is the "Lucky" guy now.

My wife's friend was telling me about some Golden Retriever puppies being at the Animal Rescue League. The Queen says "So, are you going to go look at them?"

Does this mean she wants a puppy?

I need insight into the mind of a woman here.

{Widow}! ! !

It MAY mean you should ask her to go with you to "just look."

/a test question for her: "Honey, IF we were to get another puppy, what do you think is a good name for it?"

/I just LOVE puppies!

382 bikermailman  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:49:02am

re: #380 Owl

Oh, and mornin' Lizard Nation. Happy Thursday.

Morning. Why is it I'm having visuals of a guy in medals prancing around...singing "I'm so pretty, and witty, and gaaayyy"
/ducks

383 Sandi  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:49:29am

Retired Brig. Gen./gays in the military lobbyist/Hillary-Kerry supporter Keith H. Kerr wasn’t the only plant at the CNN/YouTube debate.


“Paperserenade,” the girl who asked an abortion question, is a declared John Edwards supporter.

David Cercone, the Pompano Beach, Florida, man who asked the question about Log Cabin Republicans, is a declared Obama supporter.


The lead toy questioner, LeeAnn Anderson, who appears to be an ordinary mom concerned about her two children, whom she includes in her video, is a prominent Pittsburgh union activist–and aide to Leo Gerard, President of the American Steel Workers Union/John Edwards supporter.

___

384 bikermailman  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:50:26am

re: #383 Sandi

Retired Brig. Gen./gays in the military lobbyist/Hillary-Kerry supporter Keith H. Kerr wasn’t the only plant at the CNN/YouTube debate.


“Paperserenade,” the girl who asked an abortion question, is a declared John Edwards supporter.

David Cercone, the Pompano Beach, Florida, man who asked the question about Log Cabin Republicans, is a declared Obama supporter.


The lead toy questioner, LeeAnn Anderson, who appears to be an ordinary mom concerned about her two children, whom she includes in her video, is a prominent Pittsburgh union activist–and aide to Leo Gerard, President of the American Steel Workers Union/John Edwards supporter.

___

Surrrpriiise, surpprriiise, surppriiisee...

385 Jim in Virginia  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:53:00am

re: #366 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Give it time.

Re mortgages- Houston 1980 was the boom that would neverr end. Price inflation(oil, houses, salaries) were all at 16%. So buying a house with a negative amortization loan made sense. You would owe more next year but the house would be worth more and your salary would be higher.
When oil prices came down and oil patch workers (and bankers and engineers) lost theire jobs, house prices plummetted. Whole neighborhoods of new homes were just abandoned. People walked away from the mortgages. It took fifteen years for the Houston real estate market to recover.
"Real estate is your best investment, prices never go down." Yeah. Sure.

386 Geepers  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:53:18am

Oh the bile the AP mus have to choke down when writing this:

US Deaths in Iraq Remain Low in November

The U.S. military said that an American soldier had been killed by small-arms fire on Wednesday in Baghdad, bringing the number of troops killed in Iraq to 35 for the month so far. In May, as the influx of troops gained momentum, 126 Americans died.

The number of Iraqi civilians killed has declined drastically in the past six months as tens of thousands of Iraqis nationwide, mostly Sunnis, have broken with the insurgents and joined U.S.-backed self-defense groups.

In November to date, at least 648 Iraqi civilians have been killed or found dead, according to figures compiled by The Associated Press. This compares with 2,155 in May.

Earlier this month, the Iraqi embassy in Damascus set up 11 registration centers for Iraqis to apply for the trip home. In Jordan, Iraqi ambassador Saad al-Hayyani told The Associated Press that Iraq will give Jordan $8 million to help ease the refugee burden.

Officials in Iraq and Syria say more than 46,000 refugees returned in October and the flow has continued this month.

387 Widow'smight  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:53:32am

re: #381 gettinby

Since I work at home, it would work out for training purposes. It would have to be a dog who likes to run and swim, I'm not walking them separately.

388 bikermailman  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:56:10am

re: #364 gettinby

O . M . G .

I "think" I just heard Jesse Jackson say something with which I agree!

So many mortgage loans are going bad...many foreclosures...instead of foreclosing...should re-structure the loans so as not to foreclose.

Makes sense to me. If the lenders starting doing so many foreclosures, somewhere in the process, wouldn't a bailout occur? (another tax dollar spent on something I disagree with)

By restructuring, sounds like a win-win-win situation.

/please forgive my simple mind.

I'm simple too. It is the one thing to me that I can get behind the government 'helping' the lenders to do. Buyouts? Hell no. Baaddd! Restructuring gives both parties a chance to keep the loan afloat. To my uneducated mind, anyway.

389 gettinby  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:57:01am

re: #385 Jim in Virginia

re: #366 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Give it time.

Re mortgages- Houston 1980 was the boom that would neverr end. Price inflation(oil, houses, salaries) were all at 16%. So buying a house with a negative amortization loan made sense. You would owe more next year but the house would be worth more and your salary would be higher.
When oil prices came down and oil patch workers (and bankers and engineers) lost theire jobs, house prices plummetted. Whole neighborhoods of new homes were just abandoned. People walked away from the mortgages. It took fifteen years for the Houston real estate market to recover.
"Real estate is your best investment, prices never go down." Yeah. Sure.

And, iirc, didn't that filter on out to Oklahoma and Wyoming?

It was a truly terrible thing. I was in the property management business at the time for a company that owned strip centers, apartments and mobilehome parks. I recall driving thru parts of Texas, Oklahoma and Wyoming, and literally thousands upon thousands of mobile homes were vacated and stored in acres of vacant land. Many of our apartment buildings reached an 80% vacancy rate.

390 ec marm  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:58:39am

re: #374 gettinby


Yes! A "negative amortization mortgage loan"?


Did the same thing myself in an area of rapidly rising home values. In the early years of the loan my wife and I worked two and three jobs to pay the principle down as much as possible until the payment became manageable. It was a gamble, but it paid off.
The problem with some of these recent mortgage loans is that they were bundled and re-sold to investment firms and the homeowner may have no clue who to negotiate delayed/late payments with. In a couple of cases some judges have refused to permit foreclosure proceedings to continue because the paperwork is so screwed up.
It wouldn't hurt if someone in the Fed did a little 'jawboning' to the investment firms and convinced them to contact and see if they could assist the homeowners before they went straight to foreclosure.

391 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 4:59:20am
Paris is burning, yet again. The Muslim immigrant “youths” in the banlieues have taken to the streets to expand a Western front in the global jihad. This time, however, instead of just burning cars and throwing rocks, this week they have taken up arms against French police. As the Associated Press reported on the violence around Paris late Tuesday, noting the escalation beyond the car-burning intifada of November 2005, such that even apologetic Associated Press reporters are forced to describe the present rioters as “urban guerillas”:


Youths rampaged for a third night in the tough suburbs north of Paris and violence spread to a southern city late Tuesday as police struggled to contain rioters who have burned cars and buildings and — in an ominous turn — shot at officers.


A senior police union official warned that "urban guerrillas" had joined the unrest, saying the violence was worse than during three weeks of rioting that raged around French cities in 2005, when firearms were rarely used.


The urban warfare we are seeing in Paris, as well as the systematic violence by Muslim immigrants in other major cities throughout Europe, are in accord with the strategic planning documents drafted by the Muslim Brotherhood in recent decades in their hopes to establish a global caliphate through jihad.


Here I want to examine these recent events in light of the strategy articulated in two of these planning documents, one focusing generally on the West written in the early 1980s, and another elaborating on their “Civilization-Jihadist Process” developed in the 1990s. This process of confrontation also reflects a traditional Islamic view of constant warfare, muqawama, interspersed with temporary truces, hudna, to regroup for further conflict – a doctrine of warfare adopted by the Muslim Brotherhood

[Link: frontpagemag.com...]

392 gettinby  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:01:23am

re: #387 Widow'smight

re: #381 gettinby

Since I work at home, it would work out for training purposes. It would have to be a dog who likes to run and swim, I'm not walking them separately.

Plus, your grown-up sweetie-retriever will teach it how do those things. I've learned from adopting this greyhound WHILE our lab is still around that the older dog does indeed teach the younger one. (But be careful 'cuz they teach them the "bad" behaviors too! LOL)

393 Palmateer  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:04:24am

National Review says CNN deleted gay general from rebroadcast:

"Hillary's General [Michael Graham]
I watched the CNN re-broadcast of the debate this morning from 3-5am (the joys of morning drive radio), and I kept waiting for Col. Keith Kerr's question. He never showed up. CNN apparently deleted his entire appearance from the re-broadcast."

394 Q-Burn  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:04:58am

re: #379 gettinby

re: #376 Q-Burn

By the way, where in SoCal are you from?

/if you want to say.

Born in Inglewood, raised in Gardena and Orange.

395 gettinby  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:05:48am

re: #390 ec marm

It wouldn't hurt if someone in the Fed did a little 'jawboning' to the investment firms and convinced them to contact and see if they could assist the homeowners before they went straight to foreclosure.

Unless I'm missing something, it does seem the better solution. ALSO, the homebuyer (who got into a loan they, in most cases, shouldn't have) stays accountable for their actions, with a little forgiveness, and would still owe and have the opportunity to re-pay, AS THEY AGREED.

It's good to hear that a few of us got thru those nightmare loans okay, but most or many don't.

396 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:06:57am

re: #383 Sandi


sandi, why am i not the least bit surprised by this, considering the nature of their questions...

mornin' bikerdude. Hillary probably bought him a new sweater for that performance.

397 dentate  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:09:23am
398 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:09:25am

re: #384 bikermailman

GOMER! :)

399 Q-Burn  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:10:41am

re: #390 ec marm

Correct, these bad loans have been packaged, re-packaged, sliced and diced so many times that the people who made the loans have no "skin in the game". And good luck trying to find a human to negotiate with.

400 beblebrox  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:13:18am

re: #392 gettinby

re: #387 Widow'smight

re: #381 gettinby

Since I work at home, it would work out for training purposes. It would have to be a dog who likes to run and swim, I'm not walking them separately.

Plus, your grown-up sweetie-retriever will teach it how do those things. I've learned from adopting this greyhound WHILE our lab is still around that the older dog does indeed teach the younger one. (But be careful 'cuz they teach them the "bad" behaviors too! LOL)

Isn't that the truth! My 10 Y.O. and my 8 M.O. Keeshonds have managed to teach each other the worst of each others habits. So now I have 2 dogs who know how to open the kitchen garbage, shred every piece of paper they can get their paws on, and have developed a taste for my wife's Lancome cosmetics.

/love them both to death, though.

401 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:13:32am

Pretty slow here this morning. I guess everyone's sleepin' in after the hectic posting that went on last night. maybe some "virtual hangovers?" :)

402 christheprofessor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:14:12am

"GayGeneralGate"

I've said it before, I'll say it again -- anytime there is an impropriety involving Dems, rather than the suffice -gate (which puts one in mind of Richard Nixon) , we should affix the suffix -quiddick, to remind everybody of the Swimmer and that Dems aren't scandal-free.

403 Jito463  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:14:32am

Plant? I thought men like him were called a fruit?

/Mr. Green

405 dentate  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:15:22am

re: #401 Owl

Pretty slow here this morning. I guess everyone's sleepin' in after the hectic posting that went on last night. maybe some "virtual hangovers?" :)

The day after Dennis Kucinich proposes Ron Paul as a running mate, what's left to say?

406 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:15:43am

Civil Liberties Horror: Berkeley Cracks Down on Homeless

What happened to tolerance and diversity?

407 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:15:44am

re: #402 christheprofessor


GeneralGayquiddick?

Ummm...in this case, that's a little TOO descriptive. lol

408 Tricky Dick  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:16:07am

The Clintons are scumbags as are most of the staff over at the Clinton News Network.

410 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:16:40am

re: #405 dentate

re: #401 Owl


Pretty slow here this morning. I guess everyone's sleepin' in after the hectic posting that went on last night. maybe some "virtual hangovers?" :)

The day after Dennis Kucinich proposes Ron Paul as a running mate, what's left to say?


RON PAUL !1!1!11!11!
( Hey, you asked for it...:) )

411 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:17:44am

General Faggaquiddick?

I wont go.
I dont care WTF you say.

412 bikermailman  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:18:06am

The biggest problem with my two is that I've had to put electric fence to keep my two Houdinis in...little turdbags...I always call them that with my 'big sweetie' voice though...lol Back to work today! Have a good one, Lizards!

413 hayseed  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:18:59am

re: #369 gettinby

what gets me is the county came and re-appraised my house about 4 years ago. they bumped it up 25,000 dollars.lol are they gonna come back in the light of the current market and de-value it ? thank G-d they can't come in to your house to see what you have done

414 gettinby  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:19:29am

re: #394 Q-Burn

Born in Inglewood, raised in Gardena and Orange.

Inglewood, I only know because of LAX (what a nightmare airport imo).

Gardena, I don't remember much about it.

Orange, I remember being a lovely city. Have friends who live there.

...
Off to work! Please have a great day everyone.

415 christheprofessor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:19:35am

re: #407 Owl

Yes, way too much dickin' around in there...

416 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:19:46am
Karate Instructor Arrested for Kicking 11-Year-old 200 Times...



"No one can take that number of kicks and continue to function well."



[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]

417 dentate  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:20:13am

re: #411 BabbaZee

General Faggaquiddick?

I wont go.
I dont care WTF you say.

Yeah, well, imagine working "under" him and having him tell you to "drop and give me five..."

418 ec marm  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:20:42am

re: #395 gettinby

It's good to hear that a few of us got thru those nightmare loans okay, but most or many don't.


The homeowner has to take a long term view of their investment. I stuck it out for 15 years with that weird loan, and my home equity is now over 500k. I packed a lot of lunches, rode around in a lot of old cars, skipped more than a couple of vacations, and a ton of other minor hardships. But real estate is still imho, the first and best means of saving money. But you have to be willing to ride the ups and the downs. Some of these folks that are just walking away from their loans and will carry that on their credit records may never own a home again.

419 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:20:55am

re: #412 bikermailman


go get em!

420 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:21:25am

re: #417 dentate

I never "worked under" very well (or often)...regardless of who was over.

lol

421 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:22:20am

It was easy to predict that debate sham would be a fiasco, but I never imagined it would descend into such farce.

To say CNN has zero credibility left is an understatement.

Every Republican should permanently shun them.

What a disgrace.

422 gettinby  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:22:22am

re: #413 hayseed

re: #369 gettinby

what gets me is the county came and re-appraised my house about 4 years ago. they bumped it up 25,000 dollars.lol are they gonna come back in the light of the current market and de-value it ? thank G-d they can't come in to your house to see what you have done

You know, that's a very interesting question!

I'm going to look into it. My property taxes are approaching $10K this year, and yet our appraisal value is dropping.

Definitely something to look into.

/really...now off to work AND to call the Property Appraiser & Tax Collector offices. :)

423 wahabicorridor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:22:36am

good morning all!

Defence of the Realm has some great pics of their British soldiers in Afghanistan...

424 hayseed  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:23:01am

re: #411 BabbaZee

nice vioce...rehab is for quiters

425 christheprofessor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:23:23am

re: #411 BabbaZee

Heh.

426 ec marm  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:23:41am

re: #420 BabbaZee
How ya doing today? Did you see about that pipeline explosion and fire in my link above? Fill your oil tank soon, assuming you have oil heat, if you can afford it. :~(

427 dentate  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:24:06am

re: #420 BabbaZee

re: #417 dentate

I never "worked under" very well (or often)...regardless of who was over.

lol

Charles! Wake up! Time for a new thread!

428 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:25:12am

re: #421 JammieWearingFool

It was easy to predict that debate sham would be a fiasco, but I never imagined it would descend into such farce.

To say CNN has zero credibility left is an understatement.

Every Republican should permanently shun them.

What a disgrace.


As far as shunning them...every conservative should. I did more than 5 years ago. Matter of fact, this is the first time I've had anything CNN on my PC or TV since 2001. and yeah, i felt like i needed a shower afterwards.

429 TimeQuake  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:25:20am

re: #397 dentate

From your link...

Meanwhile, Rice, speaking after Livni, reflected on her childhood in the segregated South and said it allowed her to better understand both sides of the Israel-Palestinian conflict.

Officials in the room at the time told The Washington Post that Rice spoke without notes, recalling "a time of separation and tension."

She told delegates that when a local church was bombed by white separatists, four girls were killed, including one of her classmates.

"Like the Israelis, I know what it is like to go to sleep at night, not knowing if you will be bombed, of being afraid to be in your own neighborhood, of being afraid to go to your church," she said.

She added, however, that as a black child in the South, forbidden to use certain water fountains and shunned from certain restaurants, she was also in a good position to understand the feelings of the Palestinians.

"I know what it is like to hear to that you cannot go on a road or through a checkpoint because you are Palestinian," she said. "I understand the feeling of humiliation and powerlessness."

"There is pain on both sides," Rice concluded. "This has gone on too long."

UGH!

430 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:25:38am

Generalissimo Francisco Von
Frankenshtuppermannaquiddick!

431 TMF  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:25:55am

It wouldnt be wise to put me in a shower with a bunch of naked women.

Im assuming that the same rule would apply to a gay man and a shower full of naked men, but what do I know

Im not saying gays shouldnt serve, but it is hard for a straight man to turn off his sexuality, presumably for gay men as well

I wonder if this General had the cojones to be out of the closet when he served, or if hes simply Mr. Gay Superheroman now that hes in his 70s and has no risk

432 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:27:01am

re: #426 ec marm

We made a great buy on oil in June. I hope they continue to honor it is all.

Morning Hayseed, CTP and everyone here

433 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:27:23am

re: #429 TimeQuake

re: #397 dentate

From your link...


Meanwhile, Rice, speaking after Livni, reflected on her childhood in the segregated South and said it allowed her to better understand both sides of the Israel-Palestinian conflict.

Officials in the room at the time told The Washington Post that Rice spoke without notes, recalling "a time of separation and tension."

She told delegates that when a local church was bombed by white separatists, four girls were killed, including one of her classmates.

"Like the Israelis, I know what it is like to go to sleep at night, not knowing if you will be bombed, of being afraid to be in your own neighborhood, of being afraid to go to your church," she said.

She added, however, that as a black child in the South, forbidden to use certain water fountains and shunned from certain restaurants, she was also in a good position to understand the feelings of the Palestinians.

"I know what it is like to hear to that you cannot go on a road or through a checkpoint because you are Palestinian," she said. "I understand the feeling of humiliation and powerlessness."

"There is pain on both sides," Rice concluded. "This has gone on too long."


UGH!


and just how old is she? 90?

434 christheprofessor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:27:53am

re: #430 BabbaZee

I was thinking along the lines of CNNHillaryGayGeneralPlantaquiddick...

435 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:27:54am

The Hugo Chavez meltdown continues.

More paranoid than your average Kos Kid.

436 christheprofessor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:28:30am

re: #432 BabbaZee

Backatcha...

437 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:29:23am

re: #427 dentate

well jeez... I didn't mean it THAT way! It didn't even strike me that it could being taken that way till this minute.

oy. I'm getting old.

lol

438 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:29:44am

Actually, I guess if she's more than 50 she could have experienced that...it's hard to believe that things were that bad, not so long ago.

But comparing the problems in the South ( and other parts of the country,Condi.) with the pali "problem" is pretty lame.

439 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:30:13am

re: #437 BabbaZee

I just thought you were feelin' frisky. ;)

440 wahabicorridor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:30:35am

re: #431 TMF

I wonder if this General had the cojones to be out of the closet when he served, or if hes simply Mr. Gay Superheroman now that hes in his 70s and has no risk


John Roberts (CNN) interviewed him this morning. No. He was not openly gay while on active duty. If I heard correctly, he finished his service in the Reserves - he may have 'come out' then, but not before.

441 christheprofessor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:31:35am

Found this over at GrouchyOldCripple:

You Might Be a Nurse If...

** You avoid unhealthy looking people in the mall for fear
that they'll drop near you and you'll have to do CPR on
your day off.

** It doesn't bother you to eat a candy bar with one
hand while performing digital stimulation on your patient
with the other hand.

** You've had a patient with a nose ring, a brow ring
and twelve earrings say, "I'm afraid of shots."

** You've ever bet on someone's blood alcohol level.

** You plan your next meal while performing gastric lavage.

** You believe every waiting room should have a Valium
salt lick.

** You have your weekends off planned a year in advance.

** You have ever had a patient control his seizures
when offered food.

** You know it's a full moon without having to look at the sky.

442 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:32:04am
The Tavor utilizes a bullpup design and is configured in a layout that shortens the overall length, but not at the expense of the barrel, which retains a 33-centimeter length. This configuration enables an operator to use the short weapon in urban warfare, but at the same time shoot at targets over 500 meters away thanks to the relatively long barrel.

The Tavor comes in different variations, with the CTAR, or commando version, utilized by the IDF, which purchased 15,000 units in 2002. According to foreign reports, the weapon, which has a sniper and grenade-launcher variant as well, is also in operational use by India, Portugal, Georgia, Columbia and Thailand

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

443 DoubleU  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:32:18am

Hillary and the democrats are using the same tactics as Ron Paul supporters? El shockedo I tell you el shocko.

Eba Cnhy!

444 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:32:21am

re: #439 Owl

lol, not.

445 TimeQuake  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:32:45am

re: #433 Owl

I believe there is a vast difference between getting "bombed" and not being allowing to go somewhere.

I fail to see the equivalence of those comparisons. One you die, the other you're inconvenienced, therefore "humiliated and powerless". I guess when you're dead, those things don't matter.

446 christheprofessor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:33:15am

re: #440 wahabicorridor

He probably can't even... oh, hell, nevermind.

447 Carl in Jerusalem  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:34:18am

Good Morning to those of you who've just come online.

I want to wish you a Happy 'International Day of Solidarity with the 'Palestinian people'

448 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:34:34am

re: #445 TimeQuake

yep. that and more.

449 Carl in Jerusalem  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:34:51am

re: #406 JammieWearingFool

Civil Liberties Horror: Berkeley Cracks Down on Homeless

What happened to tolerance and diversity?

Those things don't apply to the homeless.

450 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:35:05am

re: #447 Carl in Jerusalem

Good Morning to those of you who've just come online.

I want to wish you a Happy 'International Day of Solidarity with the 'Palestinian people'

eerrr...no thanks.

451 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:35:33am

re: #421 JammieWearingFool

It was easy to predict that debate sham would be a fiasco, but I never imagined it would descend into such farce.

To say CNN has zero credibility left is an understatement.

Every Republican should permanently shun them.

What a disgrace.


I assume as much and therefore pay zero mind to it.
If I watched crap like this I'm sure I'd get so pissed I'd have an aneurysm.
I know my limitations, LOL
I stay away from the television most of the time.

452 christheprofessor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:36:38am

re: #447 Carl in Jerusalem

Good morning (or afternoon, as the case may be) .

I want to wish you a Happy 'International Day of Solidarity with the 'Palestinian people'

Great. It's time for my morning dump anyway...

453 Miss Trixie  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:37:24am

&#9834 &#9836 Good morning Lizards &#9836 &#9834

I cannot see anything outside my office window except white as it's snowing to beat the band. At least the skiers will be happy and the children will have a white Christmas this year.

Now. To find something to warm my hands.

454 Carl in Jerusalem  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:38:45am

re: #429 TimeQuake

re: #397 dentate

From your link...

Meanwhile, Rice, speaking after Livni, reflected on her childhood in the segregated South and said it allowed her to better understand both sides of the Israel-Palestinian conflict.

Officials in the room at the time told The Washington Post that Rice spoke without notes, recalling "a time of separation and tension."

She told delegates that when a local church was bombed by white separatists, four girls were killed, including one of her classmates.

"Like the Israelis, I know what it is like to go to sleep at night, not knowing if you will be bombed, of being afraid to be in your own neighborhood, of being afraid to go to your church," she said.

She added, however, that as a black child in the South, forbidden to use certain water fountains and shunned from certain restaurants, she was also in a good position to understand the feelings of the Palestinians.

"I know what it is like to hear to that you cannot go on a road or through a checkpoint because you are Palestinian," she said. "I understand the feeling of humiliation and powerlessness."

"There is pain on both sides," Rice concluded. "This has gone on too long."

UGH!

I've done several posts about this on my blog. The first one is here and you can find the rest by searching "Rice, King, Annapolis"

455 Carl in Jerusalem  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:39:49am

re: #433 Owl

re: #429 TimeQuake

re: #397 dentate

From your link...


Meanwhile, Rice, speaking after Livni, reflected on her childhood in the segregated South and said it allowed her to better understand both sides of the Israel-Palestinian conflict.Officials in the room at the time told The Washington Post that Rice spoke without notes, recalling "a time of separation and tension."

She told delegates that when a local church was bombed by white separatists, four girls were killed, including one of her classmates.

"Like the Israelis, I know what it is like to go to sleep at night, not knowing if you will be bombed, of being afraid to be in your own neighborhood, of being afraid to go to your church," she said.

She added, however, that as a black child in the South, forbidden to use certain water fountains and shunned from certain restaurants, she was also in a good position to understand the feelings of the Palestinians.

"I know what it is like to hear to that you cannot go on a road or through a checkpoint because you are Palestinian," she said. "I understand the feeling of humiliation and powerlessness."

"There is pain on both sides," Rice concluded. "This has gone on too long."


UGH!


and just how old is she? 90?

53 or 54.

456 mjazzguitar  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:40:07am

The Syrian Nationalist Party's Alternative to Annapolis

Israel is a Jewish State. Jerusalem is its capital, if the Jews so choose. The Jews, those who hold the Hebrew Tribes' surnames and any modern derivative thereof, have the right to return to and live in peace in any and all parts of Israel. The right of these tribes holding surnames to rebuild the temple on top of the destroyed Second Temple by facilitating an Architectural Development Plan to relocate the Aqsa further eastward and clear the Mount for the Jews to rebuild. The right for Palestinian who have been living as refugees to return to Jordan and to Greater Gaza; the latter would be created by expanding the present Gaza Strip's southern boarders into the Sinai Peninsula along the Mediterranean coast, and developing all sorts of resort areas along this barren and uninhabited coastal region. That expanse of land can be purchased from Egypt, just as the US bought Alaska from the Russians.
457 SlothB77  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:40:34am

were any of the youtube submissions that cnn picked not democratic candidate campaign staffers? maybe the NRA guy?

458 Carl in Jerusalem  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:42:21am
459 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:43:37am
460 njdhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:43:44am

Good morning lizards! It's pretty satisfying to see CNN get what they deserve...bad publicity. They lost any shred of credibility they might have had.

Couldn't happen to a nicer network.

461 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:43:57am

Ron Paul.

462 christheprofessor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:45:03am

re: #460 njdhockeyfan

They should just at a "Ts" to their acronym and be done with it...

/sorry

463 christheprofessor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:45:21am

Paul Ron

464 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:45:22am
When I posted an article about the bail out investment in Citigroup of $7.5 billion by the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority, I noted that it makes Sheik Khalifa bin Zayed al Nahyan, the head of what passes for the government of Abu Dhabi with an investment stake of 4.9% and the outstanding 3.9% stake of Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal the largest shareholders in this nation’s largest commercial bank. The Abu Dhabi Investment Authority I noted got a sweetheart deal with an effective yield of 11%. The existing Citigroup shareholders didn’t appreciate that propsect when initially announced as it may be likely their dividend would be cut. All this because Citigroup bankers had bungled on the sub prime mortgage ruinous gamble and had to put up dough for the Special Investment Vehicle to tackle the looming credit crunch in the residential mortgage market. I called it a slick Sharia finance deal. Sure it might have recycled billions of petro dollars, but it also made these oil rich sheikdoms ‘richer’ and able to call the tune at Citigroup.

This Wall Street Journal editorial provides some history on the involvement of the late anti-Semitic Sheik, Zayad of Abu Dhabi who was ensnared in the infamous BCCI banking scandal in the 1990’s and should have been indicted, but wasn’t, despite the relentless pursuit by Manhattan DA Robert Morgenthau. The late Sheik Zayad, you may recall was forced to take back a $2 million endowment of an Islamic studies program at Harvard Divinity School back in 2003, when Rachel Fish, a graduate student at HDS, now with the David project in Boston, revealed in the Wall Street Journal his anti-Semitic support of the blood libel, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion in the Arab Muslim world.

Morgenthau had this money line comment about the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority deal to bail out Citi Group:

[Link: blog.americancongressfortruth.com...]

465 Cap'n DOC  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:45:59am

re: #68 antiIslamist

Sweet!

466 njdhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:46:28am

This should peg the seething meter off the charts...

Dutch lawmaker planning film criticizing the Quran

THE HAGUE, Netherlands: A Dutch conservative lawmaker said Wednesday he is making a film to highlight what he describes as "fascist" passages in the Quran, his latest high profile criticism of Islam.

The interior and justice ministers said they were concerned, but believed they had no authority to prevent the lawmaker, Geert Wilders, from screening his film.

Wilders plans to depict parts of the Quran he says are used as inspiration "by bad people to do bad things."

Less than 10 minutes long, the film is expected to air in late January. It will show "the intolerant and fascist character of the Quran," said Wilders, whose anti-Islam campaign helped his Freedom Party win nine seats in parliament in last year's election.

In the past, Wilders has said that half the Quran should be torn up and compared it with Adolf Hitler's book "Mein Kampf." He has claimed the Netherlands is being swamped by a "tsunami" of Islamic immigrants.

467 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:46:30am

Hey...I thought the dead man was gona speak...oh well...dead men tell no tales.

468 wahabicorridor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:47:22am

Hunh. I seem to recall that some lizards deal w/autisim is their families. Guess who the leading autism research is in the UK. A guy named Simon Baron Cohen. Name sound slightly familiar? He's Ali G's (SASHA Baron Cohen) brother. Just makes me wonder about the anti-semitism in UK academic circles. Might want to rethink that.

In other 'those sly Brits' news: Seems there's a bit of an election funds scandal in the Labour party revolving around one David Abrahams (not a notably Celtic name). Apparently the money was 'laundered' thru several layers and everyone wants to know who the originating source(s) might be. Well, so far, no one days, but just to kick off the appropriate thinking, today's Telegraph carries a photo of Abrahams shaking hands with Zvi Hefeitz, the former Israeli ambassador.

The Telegraph might want to rethink that too. I understand the libel laws in the UK are quite unforgiving.

469 antiislamist  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:47:33am

re: #456 mjazzguitar

the Jews, holder of the tribes names and derivative thereof, not the Khazzar or the converted Madonna, should have the right and title to the site and the exclusive right to rebuild the temple if they so choose and on condition that no blood ceremony may be performed at this rebuilt Third Temple.

oh... but the Muslim around the world... from Malaysia to Porkistan had right to cry for pali pigs... isn't it what that means...

470 Jito463  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:48:44am

Only 10 minutes? There's easily a couple hours worth of material there.

re: #466 njdhockeyfan

This should peg the seething meter off the charts...

Dutch lawmaker planning film criticizing the Quran

THE HAGUE, Netherlands: A Dutch conservative lawmaker said Wednesday he is making a film to highlight what he describes as "fascist" passages in the Quran, his latest high profile criticism of Islam.

The interior and justice ministers said they were concerned, but believed they had no authority to prevent the lawmaker, Geert Wilders, from screening his film.

Wilders plans to depict parts of the Quran he says are used as inspiration "by bad people to do bad things."

Less than 10 minutes long, the film is expected to air in late January. It will show "the intolerant and fascist character of the Quran," said Wilders, whose anti-Islam campaign helped his Freedom Party win nine seats in parliament in last year's election.

In the past, Wilders has said that half the Quran should be torn up and compared it with Adolf Hitler's book "Mein Kampf." He has claimed the Netherlands is being swamped by a "tsunami" of Islamic immigrants.

471 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:48:47am

Good morning all. 42 degrees in the greater metropolitan Doraville area, going up to around 60. Same ol' same ol'.

Couldn't stomach the debates last night so I played video games instead.

As far as the Clinton News Network is concerned, what a surprise that that put Clinton and Obama campaign workers out there to ask "random" questions.

Are they so stupid that they don't know that they will get caught immediately? Hmmm ... come to think of it, they are that stupid.

Many years ago I was drinking (surprise!) with some CNN staffers at one of my favorite watering holes (this was in the before-times). One of them was going on at length about how much she hated the south, and how prejudice southerners were, etc. etc. etc. (This is in Atlanta, of course -- capital city of Scalliwags and Carpetbaggers). The other I was asking various questions about their recent coverage of the New Hampshire primary. While her friend expatiated loudly about the horrors of having to leave New York for the south, she made an effort to listen to my questions. Brief resume of conversation:

LS: Why was candidate A given extensive coverage and candidate B ignored?

CNN: "Because the second wasn't a serious candidate."

LS: How do you know that before a vote has been cast? "

CNN: "I don't know. I've never thought about it in that way that before."

LS: So who decides who gets coverage?

CNN: "Our producers decide which stories to run"

LS: So your producers decide who the "serious" candidates are?

CNN: "I guess so. I've never thought about it in that way that before."

And so on and so on. Throughout the conversation, her most common statement was "I've never thought about it in that way that before."

I think a more accurate answer would have been "I am incapable of thought."

I haven't paid any attention to CNN since.

And CNN, one word: pwned!

472 TimeQuake  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:49:09am

re: #454 Carl in Jerusalem

From your second link, on your blog...

then she's nowhere near as bright as we give her credit for being.

There it is.

Thanks.

473 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:49:14am
474 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:49:51am

Yes!...good news at last!...

LONDON (AP) - A new service promises Londoners they'll never have to spend much time looking for the loo. Westminster City Council, which covers London's bustling Oxford Street, the West End, Big Ben and the Houses of Parliament, on Thursday launched "SatLav"—a toilet-finding service for cell phone users

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

475 Peacekeeper  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:49:59am

I have yet to watch a single debate of either party and somehow have lived to tell the tale.

476 wahabicorridor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:50:35am

Can I fucking type today?

more caffeine...

477 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:50:39am

Lo

478 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:51:02am

re: #470 Jito463

Like I said yesterday, the Jihadis are already sharpening their knives. He'd better not plan on taking any bike rides along the canals.

479 yochanan  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:51:25am

a queer general would not be a brass hat but would be a BRASS ASS

480 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:51:25am

re: #476 wahabicorridor

Can I fucking type today?

more caffeine...


It's all right with me...if you type today.

481 antiislamist  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:51:50am

re: #465 Cap'n DOC

thanks... anyways thats from my neighboring town...

482 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:53:08am
Beloved German Shepard Executed With Gun Shot Between the Eyes .."I saw him from the top of the hill and just went running and screaming."


[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]

483 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:53:20am

re: #476 wahabicorridor

Can I fucking type today?

more caffeine...

You can do either-- really don't need our permission.

This is a very tolerant "live and let live" sort of blog.

484 christheprofessor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:54:42am

Scene: Ron Paul in a tavern, trying to pick up voters.

Ron Paul (extending hand to potential voter): "Paul. Ron Paul"

Potential Voter: "Off. Fuck off."

485 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:54:47am
486 hayseed  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:55:09am

never a frown with golden brown

487 njdhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:55:17am

RoP stikes in Thailand...

Muslim crucified, two Buddhists beheaded in Thailand: police

NARATHIWAT, Thailand (AFP) - A Muslim military informant was shot and crucified, while two Buddhist men were beheaded Wednesday by suspected Islamic separatists in Thailand's restive south, police said.

The Muslim man, a 58-year-old who belonged to a government-backed militia, was shot and then stabbed so badly that he was nearly decapitated, police Lieutenant Khanchitthol Kreunor told AFP.

Suspected rebels then drove six-inch nails through his head, arms and legs to attach him to two pieces of wood, which were laid out like a cross in the middle of a road in Rueso district of Narathiwat province, near the southern border with Malaysia, he said.

Khanchitthol said police found a note written in Thai and left near the cross, reading: "This is what the infidels deserve. The soldier dogs must meet this end."

"The victim was attacked and killed in such a grisly way because they knew he was a military informant. This is to terrify the people," Khanchitthol said.

About two hours later, two Buddhist fishmongers aged 20 and 61 were shot and then beheaded in another district of Narathiwat, police said.

The killings get more disgusting every day.

488 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:55:30am

The religion of hate...

KHARTOUM, Sudan (AP) - Riot police surrounded a Sudanese court as proceedings began Thursday against a British teacher charged with inciting religious hatred over letting her pupils name a teddy bear Muhammad.
Gillian Gibbons, in a dark blue jacket and blue dress, was not handcuffed when she walked into the courtroom in Khartoum, according to reporters who were briefly allowed inside but were subsequently dismissed



[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

489 Armigerous  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:55:32am

Did General Kerr serve with the 82nd Queerborne or the Pink Berets?

491 ec marm  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:56:16am

re: #464 storagemanager
Didja see the new Citigroup logo? Something different about it, I can't quite put my finger on it.

492 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:56:20am

From yesterday's BotW, a curious juxtaposition of stories. I get what his point is, though I'm not sure how valid it is. Still, worthy of serious consideration.


Fox News reports on author Stephen King's latest horror fantasy:
King has a solution for how to prove once and for all whether waterboarding is torture: Have Jenna Bush try it.

The bestselling author offered his unorthodox investigative method in a Time magazine interview during a discussion about the media's coverage of celebrity news.

"I said something to the 'Nightline' guy about waterboarding, and if the Bush administration didn't think it was torture, they ought to do some personal investigation," King recounted to Time. "Someone in the Bush family should actually be waterboarded so they could report on it to George."

"I said, I didn't think he would do it, but I suggested Jenna be waterboarded and then she could talk about whether or not she thought it was torture," King continued.

This reminded us of "Fahrenheit 9/11," in which distended documentarian Michael Moore approached various supporters of Iraq's liberation and demanded that they "send" their own sons to serve in the military there--notwithstanding that in America only adults can join the military, and neither their parents nor anyone else can compel them to do so. In a 2005 Slate article, Christopher Hitchens underscored the creepiness of this rhetorical device (grit your teeth for the obligatory anti-Christian snark):


Oh, Jesus, another barrage of emotional tripe about sons. From every quarter, one hears that the willingness to donate a male child is the only test of integrity. It's as if some primitive Spartan or Roman ritual had been reconstituted, though this time without the patriotism or the physical bravery. Worse, it has a gruesome echo of the human sacrifice that underpins Christian fundamentalism.

It reminded us, as well, of a story that the New York Times reports on today:

Megan Meier died believing that somewhere in this world lived a boy named Josh Evans who hated her. He was 16, owned a pet snake, and she thought he was the cutest boyfriend she ever had.

Josh contacted Megan through her page on MySpace.com, the social networking Web site, said Megan's mother, Tina Meier. They flirted for weeks, but only online--Josh said his family had no phone. On Oct. 15, 2006, Josh suddenly turned mean. He called Megan names, and later they traded insults for an hour.

The next day, in his final message, said Megan's father, Ron Meier, Josh wrote, "The world would be a better place without you."

Sobbing, Megan ran into her bedroom closet. Her mother found her there, hanging from a belt. She was 13.

"Josh Evans" turned out to be a fake. Megan was the victim of a cruel hoax, carried out in retaliation for her having dumped a neighbor girl with whom she had been friends.

What makes this story not just tragic but shocking is that the perpetrator of the hoax, Lori Drew, is the mother of Megan's erstwhile pal. At the time she created "Josh," Mrs. Drew was 47.

We do not pretend to understand what motivates a grown woman to behave so viciously toward a girl barely a quarter her age. But perhaps it is not insignificant that Lori Drew lives in a society in which famous entertainers feel free to trumpet their fantasies of aggression against other people's children.

493 SlothB77  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:57:25am

if the dems acted as fiercely and deceptively against terrorism as they do moderating presidential debates . . .

494 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:57:57am

re: #490 BabbaZee

This is a very tolerant "live and let live" sort of blog.

Heh.

Howyadoin' this morning BabbaZee?

495 TimeQuake  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:58:01am

re: #490 BabbaZee

LOL

Always the appropriate music for us.

496 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:58:54am

re: #484 christheprofessor

Scene: Ron Paul in a tavern, trying to pick up voters.

Ron Paul (extending hand to potential voter): "Paul. Ron Paul"

Potential Voter: "Off. Fuck off."

LOL!

497 mjazzguitar  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:58:58am

The Arab states are concerned over fundamentalism at home—not when they are anywhere else, and especially not in Israel
The writer is a former Knesset member and Israeli ambassador to Washington and is a member of the Likud movement

498 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 5:59:52am

I really like the poor sound quality of that last clip ...it sounds just like my old radio thereby greatly enhancing the nostalgia factor.

499 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:00:31am

re: #494 lucius septimius

still recovering
how 'bout you?

500 hayseed  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:00:46am

re: #492 lucius septimius

I read that a while back...how sad a supposed grown up would do something like that.

501 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:00:49am

re: #498 BabbaZee

Yep, reminds me of listing to the AM station in my old Gremlin.

502 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:01:49am

re: #498 BabbaZee

by the way...you and I...and a few others...are really just one person...with alot of sock puppets.

503 Peacekeeper  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:01:59am

Asteroid Apophis Update:
Apophis' chance of hitting our planet in 2029 is now slim to none, but astronomers will have to wait four to six years before they can predict what it might do during a second pass in 2036. A team of scientists arrived at the conclusion after accounting for small influences like the solar wind, gravitational drag of smaller asteroids and human error.

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

504 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:02:06am

re: #499 BabbaZee

I'm recovering, slower than I'd like, but each day's a little better. Trying not to push it. Now that I've had breakfast, painkillers in order.

Did you have something done? I think I was out when all that happened.

505 njdhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:02:06am

Check out the title to the latest Koskidz diary...

The twenty n***** laws & other disturbing truths

506 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:02:34am

re: #495 TimeQuake

hiya Timey

507 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:02:57am

re: #502 storagemanager

re: #498 BabbaZee

by the way...you and I...and a few others...are really just one person...with alot of sock puppets.

Sort of like that "I am my own Grandpa" song from years back?

508 Nat-X  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:03:05am

This was one of my "attention getters" when I was a Marine Corps instructor at an Air Force school. It was a big hit, until "a couple" of people complained. Then the PC Police nabbed me.

When I worked as a sup for Motorola, we had to attend homophobia classes during company sponsored Gay Pride Week. Boy, did I have to bite my tongue.

So, now I am self-employed. Gay jokes are welcome.

Gay Military Close-Order Drill

509 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:03:29am

re: #504 lucius septimius

I have nothing done.

510 Peacekeeper  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:03:45am

That Babba, always giving the other fellow Hell...

511 damnyanqui  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:03:48am

Whoa! Check out this delightful little ditty!
In New York State, it is now polictically incorrect even to rail against OSAMA BIN LADEN!
New York DMV vetoes "get Osama" license plate

512 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:04:20am

re: #502 storagemanager

That again?

lol

513 hayseed  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:04:42am

re: #501 lucius septimius

lol...years a go my wife to be friend told her to go out with me because i had a car with tunes.

ah/young ladies looking for transport

514 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:04:52am

re: #509 BabbaZee

Watcha recovering from? I guess from that I assumed ...
Seems like everyone here is going under the knife. And none of us have even made anti-Jihadi dutch films ...

515 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:05:12am

re: #510 Peacekeeper

Wasn't it Truman who said that all he did was tell the truth but people thought that was hell?

lol

516 hayseed  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:05:45am

re: #504 lucius septimius

narcotics and coffee...the breakfast of champions

517 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:06:17am

re: #513 hayseed

re: #501 lucius septimius

lol...years a go my wife to be friend told her to go out with me because i had a car with tunes.

ah/young ladies looking for transport

Gotta be careful about that -- the Mann Act, you know.

518 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:06:22am

re: #514 lucius septimius

I have not had any recent surgery I am just doing poorly this week, various reasons.
No big deal.

519 Peacekeeper  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:06:41am

Of course, asteroids are nothing compared the threat from The Gay Menace tm.

520 njdhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:06:59am

Muslim ex-guard on trial over alias

A former security guard at Andrews Air Force Base who failed to put his Muslim name on a job application was trying to conceal his ties to a controversial D.C. imam, federal prosecutors said yesterday.

U.S. District Court jurors in Greenbelt began hearing the case against Darrick Michael Jackson, who is charged with making a false statement when he failed to put the alias "Abdul-Jalil Mohammed" on an application for a job at the military base that is home to Air Force One. Mr. Jackson could face five years in prison if convicted.

Mr. Jackson already was a security guard at Andrews when he reapplied in 2005 after the contract for security at the base changed. He had to fill out a federal form, which asked whether he had any aliases. Mr. Jackson did not include the Muslim name.

At the time, he was affiliated with the Masjid Al-Islam mosque in Southeast, which is led by a fiery imam named Abdul Alim Musa. Prosecutors said Mr. Jackson tried to hide his ties to Mr. Musa and the mosque to avoid an investigation that might have led to the denial of his application.

521 mjazzguitar  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:07:08am

re: #478 lucius septimius Especially after Theo Van Gogh.

522 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:07:46am

re: #507 lucius septimius

re: #502 storagemanager

re: #498 BabbaZee

by the way...you and I...and a few others...are really just one person...with alot of sock puppets.

Sort of like that "I am my own Grandpa" song from years back?

523 christheprofessor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:07:56am

re: #492 lucius septimius

That is one evil woman. I wonder if there is any legal liability on her part for it (no doubt in my mind that she is morally liable)...

524 Peacekeeper  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:08:04am

re: #515 BabbaZee
Give 'em Hell Harriet!

525 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:08:50am

re: #518 BabbaZee

Sorry to hear that. Feel better.

526 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:09:37am
wahabi leaders let their hair down

527 Peacekeeper  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:10:10am

Actually can you think of anything more humiliating for Iran than to be attacked by a bunch of openly gay soldiers? I say recruit a few squadrons.

528 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:10:37am

re: #521 mjazzguitar

Exactly.

530 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:11:24am

re: #471 lucius septimius


Ok, first the important stuff. What games? I'm enjoyin the heck out of COD4.

Secondly, you're in Doraville...I'm hiding out in G-town just 60 miles or so north of ya. howdy neighbor.

531 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:11:33am

re: #393 Palmateer

Can you say "memory hole"?

/Cue Twilight Zone Theme

532 Miss Trixie  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:11:36am

storagemanager

With all due respect, would you mind NOT posting links to stories where animals are mutilated, tortured or inflicted with various sub-human vileness?

It serves no positive purpose, it makes me cry and you've broke my heart four times this week.

533 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:11:39am

re: #525 lucius septimius

Thanks

534 christheprofessor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:11:54am

re: #516 hayseed

re: #504 lucius septimius

narcotics and coffee...the breakfast of champions

Reminds me of the T-shirt that says (paraphrasing): Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms should be a convenience store, not a government agency.

535 Peacekeeper  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:11:59am

What exactly do you mean by : "They blew the reactor"?

536 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:12:07am

re: #522 BabbaZee

re: #507 lucius septimius

re: #502 storagemanager

re: #498 BabbaZee

by the way...you and I...and a few others...are really just one person...with alot of sock puppets.

Sort of like that "I am my own Grandpa" song from years back?

I knowed you'd have that one socked away somewhere.

537 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:13:01am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area.

This is breaking and quite disturbing via MSNBC - Slovaks say seized uranium enriched enough to be used in 'dirty bomb'

Where did they obtain the materials, what is the identity of the individuals, who did they work for, and what was their ultimate destination? Right now - no answers to any of those questions.

The Slovaks have done the world a great favor. Let's see where this leads.

538 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:13:25am

re: #532 Miss Trixie

{Miss Trixie}
Nunja cry!

539 njdhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:13:42am

Pakistani girl axed by father, kin in 'honour killing'

ISLAMABAD: A girl in Pakistan's Punjab province became victim of 'honour killing' when she was axed to death by her father and close relatives for allegedly having an affair with a boy of her locality.

The girl was killed after her father, Farooq Khan Baloch, became suspicious that his daughter was having an affair with Amjad, a youngster in Jhang tehsil in Punjab province.

Seeing them together, Farooq along with relatives Sher Khan, Asghar Khan and Riaz Khan, axed the girl to death, while the boy managed to escape, the Dawn daily reported.

540 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:13:46am

re: #511 damnyanqui

Whoa! Check out this delightful little ditty!
In New York State, it is now polictically incorrect even to rail against OSAMA BIN LADEN!
New York DMV vetoes "get Osama" license plate


Well, you know...wouldn't want to upset the future establishment.

541 wahabicorridor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:13:59am

re: #523 christheprofessor

re: #492 lucius septimius

That is one evil woman. I wonder if there is any legal liability on her part for it (no doubt in my mind that she is morally liable)...

There isn't - or wasn't when Mrs. Drew was fucking over the little girl. Since then the town has passed an ordinance making internet harrassment a misdeanor.

Get just how utterly evil this bitch really is. Meagan and her daughter used to be best friends. The Drew family took Meagan camping with them and knew she was on anti-depressants.

Drew actually went to her funeral and she's glad she did - because she found out while there that Meagan had attempted suicide before so "I didn't feel so bad".

I'd burn her fucking house down with her in it.

542 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:14:10am

Good morning Y'all from a coolish (37 degrees, going up to 66 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

543 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:14:36am

YO BABBA!

544 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:14:43am

re: #536 lucius septimius

I had the single when I was a kid by some oldtimer, a much better version than that Ray Stevens one, cant remember now who it was, it was on Decca though, the old plain black label

545 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:15:10am

re: #532 Miss Trixie

storagemanager

With all due respect, would you mind NOT posting links to stories where animals are mutilated, tortured or inflicted with various sub-human vileness?

It serves no positive purpose, it makes me cry and you've broke my heart four times this week.

I am sorry for that...of course...I have a dog I love very much...It was a news story...I meant no harm.

546 Peacekeeper  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:15:20am

re: #537 lawhawk
As a lawyer you should be more concerned about whether the poor bastards were spied upon or (gasp) being sent to a secret CIA torture camp.

/Gah.

547 njdhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:15:25am

ACLU Wants Tommy Bowden to Stop Taking Players to Church

The American Civil Liberties Union has accused Clemson head football coach Tommy Bowden of abusing his authority by imposing his religious beliefs on his players, and it has asked the university to discontinue the coach's practice of strongly recommending players to participate in an annual team visit to a local church.

The university on Wednesday denied the ACLU's claim that Bowden, who is a state employee in a supervisory position, has violated the players' constitutional rights of separation of church and state.

The coach used publicly owned team buses to transport the team to the church this past August but will no longer be allowed to do so, school spokeswoman Cathy Sams said. "From our standpoint, this has been resolved for several months."

Neil Caesar, vice president of the South Carolina chapter of the ACLU, said the organization plans to press the issue. "The ball's in our court," Caesar said. "We just need to figure out what our response is going to be."

548 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:15:34am

re: #530 Owl

Hey neighbor -- actually I'm on the other side of the airport in Chamblee (hence the "greater metro Doraville area." I think I heard Peter Schickele say that once when he was here.

G-town -- Gainesville?

549 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:15:39am
550 3 wood  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:15:56am

re: #435 JammieWearingFool

More paranoid than your average Kos Kid.

To paraphrase Fred Thompson in Hunt For Red October, this business is going to get out of hand and they will all be lucky to get out of it alive.

551 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:16:31am
552 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:16:38am

re: #533 BabbaZee

Love the hats!

553 hayseed  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:17:11am

re: #527 Peacekeeper

I say send that parade that Zombie took photos of straight through tehran armed to the teeth.

554 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:17:25am

re: #542 realwest

Good morning Y'all from a coolish (37 degrees, going up to 66 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?


Apparently some of us are angry, broken hearted, fine, and some excited about the prospect of Solidarity Day. :) Or something along those lines.
66 in Charlotte...sounds awesome.

555 Peacekeeper  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:17:36am

re: #540 Owl
They probably thought it meant "get Obama"

556 christheprofessor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:17:49am

re: #541 wahabicorridor

Wow. Evil bitch doesn't even begin to describe that vile woman. I'm with you -- I doubt she'd last a week if she still lived next door to me. Then I'd demand a jury trial - what jury, knowing that story, would convict?

557 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:18:02am
558 mjazzguitar  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:18:28am

re: #492 lucius septimius
And they can't charge Lori Drew with anything. Imagine a 47 year old messing with a kid's head like that. It's still a form of child abuse.

559 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:18:50am

re: #548 lucius septimius

re: #530 Owl

Hey neighbor -- actually I'm on the other side of the airport in Chamblee (hence the "greater metro Doraville area." I think I heard Peter Schickele say that once when he was here.

G-town -- Gainesville?


Yep. Heart of the Altzan of the east. We like it though - close to the mountains and all that.

561 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:19:11am

re: #547 njdhockeyfan

Bunch of USC grads upset about the results of the last Chicken Kickin' I reckon.

Bobby saved his job by beating the Evil Genius this year, and I don't suppose the folks up in Pickens County will take kindly to the ACLU buttin' in.

562 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:19:41am

re: #555 Peacekeeper

re: #540 Owl
They probably thought it meant "get Obama"

Obama, osama...you know...;)

563 carridine  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:20:23am

re: #547 njdhockeyfan

"Annual visit"?

ACLU: "The ball's in our court..." meaning "This figure of speech DEMONSTRATES our religious beliefs, just as an 'Annual visit' is a demonstration of 'forcing religious beliefs' on football players!"

564 Peacekeeper  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:20:46am

re: #547 njdhockeyfan

"The ball's in our court," Caesar said. "We just need to figure out what our response is going to be."

Well for one, you're using tennis metaphors in a battle with football fans. You guys got fundamentally differing world views.

565 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:20:53am

i don't think i speeeled aztlan right. errr...correctly. atzla...aztla..al...awhhh wth do I care.

/hmm

566 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:21:27am

Updating my #537:

Here's the linky with additional info. U235 and U238 in powder form was recovered from the three men now in custody. The powder form would be useful in building a dirty bomb. Origin of materials may have been former Soviet Union (oh, don't we all feel safer now thanks to the IAEA don't we?)

Oh, and the identities of the trio is not public as yet.

567 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:22:17am
players' constitutional rights of separation of church and state.


Well, first off...

568 Peacekeeper  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:23:12am

re: #562 Owl

re: #555 Peacekeeper


re: #540 Owl
They probably thought it meant "get Obama"

Obama, osama...you know...;)


Obama, Osama, Pajama, yo mamma...

569 hayseed  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:23:54am

re: #547 njdhockeyfan

what can you say...these people are ...

self/deleted

570 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:24:10am

re: #530 Owl

Games -- you'd asked about those. I just play on the computer, but the two I did last knight are Star Wars Empire at War and Middle Earth Rise of the Witch King. Got to kill Luke twice last night. Hee Hee Hee.

I realize, bush league from the pov of the serious gamers here, but I'm an old guy.

571 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:24:20am

re: #549 BabbaZee Hey Babba - geez I knew you had a cold, but still that song selection was, well...! LOL!
How ya feeling this morning? Oh and btw, my upstairs neighbors apparently don't like "Live and Let Die" as much as I do! LOL!

572 Peacekeeper  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:24:33am

"The ball's in our court," Caesar said. "We just need to figure out what our response is going to be."

Try hitting it.

573 FrogMarch  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:24:47am

Glenn wonders:

JUST HEARD A LENGTHY NPR STORY ON THE YOUTUBE DEBATE, with a live followup from Mara Liasson -- and it omitted any mention of the planted question issue. Hmm. If Fox hosted a Democratic debate and many of the most pointed questions turned out to come from Republican activists, but Fox didn't disclose that, do you think it would pass unremarked?

Why do the republicans allow themselves to be spanked by DNC/CNN?

574 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:25:44am

re: #550 3 wood Good morning my friend - when y'all get a chance, please check your e-mail! Hope all is well with you and yours.

575 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:26:04am

re: #568 Peacekeeper

re: #562 Owl


re: #555 Peacekeeper

re: #540 Owl
They probably thought it meant "get Obama"

Obama, osama...you know...;)

Obama, Osama, Pajama, yo mamma...


stinky llama, okinawa, hoochie-mama, misplaced coma...

576 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:26:13am

re: #354 Jim in Virginia

re: #360 MigueldowninMexico

A well trained crew will detect, track, develope a firing solution and shoot before most skimmers even know they are in the area. That being said, just WHO is training the crews? The Russians, the Chinese? Who? We can hope that they are traing themselves as a poorly trained crew is more of a danger to the boat and themselves than an opossing force.

BTW, Good Morning Lizards

577 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:26:37am

re: #567 Owl

players' constitutional rights of separation of church and state.


Well, first off...

separation of church and state does NOT mean the elimination of religion. Period. End of story.

Of course, if he had taken them to a Mosque it would have been a-OK! In fact, they probably would have sued to allow him to do that.

ACLU -- never met a religion we didn't hate, until Islam came along.

578 wahabicorridor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:26:46am

WHOA!

Everyone knows Trent Lott is retiring, right?

And the name Dickie Screggs, the tort lawyer, has been indicted on bribery charges - not unexpected.

But did you guys know that Scruggs is Lotts brother-in-law?

579 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:27:25am
580 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:28:08am

re: #554 Owl Morning Owl - wth is Solidarity Day?
And while I'm at it have you or any other lizards received some e-mail from The Center for Islamic Studies? My Spam detector picked off two different e-mails from these folks.

581 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:28:20am
582 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:28:24am

re: #573 FrogMarch

Glenn wonders:

JUST HEARD A LENGTHY NPR STORY ON THE YOUTUBE DEBATE, with a live followup from Mara Liasson -- and it omitted any mention of the planted question issue. Hmm. If Fox hosted a Democratic debate and many of the most pointed questions turned out to come from Republican activists, but Fox didn't disclose that, do you think it would pass unremarked?

Why do the republicans allow themselves to be spanked by DNC/CNN?

'cuz they're a bunch of wimps. Sorry, but it's been true for a really long time, Ronald the Great notwithstanding.

583 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:28:26am

re: #570 lucius septimius

re: #530 Owl

Games -- you'd asked about those. I just play on the computer, but the two I did last knight are Star Wars Empire at War and Middle Earth Rise of the Witch King. Got to kill Luke twice last night. Hee Hee Hee.

I realize, bush league from the pov of the serious gamers here, but I'm an old guy.


Nah. Not at all. I'd be playing PC games if my PC wasn't 6 or 7 years old - and the built-in graphics card is well past it's prime. I held out as long as I couldm but a year ago, I couldn't stop myself from picking up a ( then hard to find) ps3. I'm a 37 year old kid - or so my wife tells me.

584 3 wood  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:28:35am

re: #574 realwest

I did, and responded. Thanks.

585 christheprofessor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:28:46am

re: #575 Owl

'I'm a Cranky Old Yank in a Clanky Old Tank on the Streets of Yokohama with my Honolulu Mama Doin' Those Beat-o, Beat-o Flat-On-My-Seat-o, Hirohito Blues'

586 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:29:04am

re: #579 ploome hineni

Heh.

587 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:29:20am
588 Miss Trixie  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:30:11am

{realwest} Morning *smoooch* Jebus but winter's arrived early. How are you?

{corridor} Hello, luv. :)

storage - no harm nor foul, hon. I just wanted to bring it to your attention and I understand your motivation.

589 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:30:48am

re: #583 Owl

re: #570 lucius septimius

re: #530 Owl

Games -- you'd asked about those. I just play on the computer, but the two I did last knight are Star Wars Empire at War and Middle Earth Rise of the Witch King. Got to kill Luke twice last night. Hee Hee Hee.

I realize, bush league from the pov of the serious gamers here, but I'm an old guy.


Nah. Not at all. I'd be playing PC games if my PC wasn't 6 or 7 years old - and the built-in graphics card is well past it's prime. I held out as long as I couldm but a year ago, I couldn't stop myself from picking up a ( then hard to find) ps3. I'm a 37 year old kid - or so my wife tells me.

My son asked me when he'd be old enough to play the new Star Wars game. He asked (he's 8) "when I'm your age?" I said, yes, you have to wait until your 44. My Lovely Bride almost spit out her food at that one.

590 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:30:55am

re: #580 realwest


You know, I did get some spam from them the other day. Didn't open it. Thought it might be a virus.

As for the Solidarity Day - someone posted about it upthread. Some "feel-good" jive turkey talk, IMHO.

591 ronaldusmagnus  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:31:07am

Henry Hyde R.I.P.

Congressman Henry Hyde (R-IL) passed away at 3:00 a.m. today.

God bless Henry Hyde.

592 Irene NYC  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:31:22am

Good morning realwest. Hope you're feeling well.
;)

593 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:31:53am

re: #585 christheprofessor


Plllus ONE for you! :)

594 TimeQuake  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:31:55am

re: #506 BabbaZee

Thanks. Bowie is so weird, IMO.

595 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:32:06am
Kissinger in 1969: Israelis most likely to use nukes


Declassified memo authored by President Nixon's prominent national security advisor indicates administration was deeply concerned by possibility Israel was developing nuclear arms

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

596 wahabicorridor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:32:10am

re: #588 Miss Trixie

{realwest} Morning *smoooch* Jebus but winter's arrived early. How are you?

{corridor} Hello, luv. :)

storage - no harm nor foul, hon. I just wanted to bring it to your attention and I understand your motivation.

good morning Missie. Hey, how does your little girl fare when the snow is deep? Does she like snow?

597 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:32:13am

re: #579 ploome hineni

re: #491 ec marm


re: #464 storagemanager
Didja see the new Citigroup logo? Something different about it, I can't quite put my finger on it.

I cancelled my Citi credit cards yesterday


Can't believe that, glad I cancelled my card last year.

598 njdhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:32:17am

Cell Phone May Have Killed SKorean Man

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — An exploding cell phone battery is suspected by police in the death of a South Korean worker Wednesday, though the phone's manufacturer said it was highly unlikely.

The man, identified only by his family name Suh, was found dead at his workplace in a quarry Wednesday morning and his mobile phone battery was melted in his shirt pocket, a police official in Cheongwon told The Associated Press.

"We presume that the cell phone battery exploded," the police official said on condition of anonymity because the investigation was still under way.
...
An LG official confirmed its product was involved in the accident but said the company would not comment directly on the incident because the cause was not confirmed. However, the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to company policy, said such a fatal explosion would be virtually impossible.

599 LanceKates  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:32:35am

AP really gives communists a wide hand, kind of like Democrats do.

China and HIV.

A UN research group finds approximately 700,000 Chinese have HIV.

Earlier Thursday, the official Xinhua News Agency mistakenly reported the number was as low as 223,501

"Mistakenly" ? Don't they remember the USSR? well over 100 million people died, due to executions and starvation campaigns... and the USSR said that those numbers were inflated by evil capitalist propaganda (which FDR and Truman both agreed with and echoed to dispell any criticism of their most favorite "Uncle Joe" Stalin), and that any deaths that might have happened were actually due to 70 years in a row of bad weather.

COMMUNISTS LIE! They always lie to make their communist country look like it is doing well. But don't worry, the AP is there to help the cover-story.

600 Irene NYC  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:32:56am

re: #579 ploome hineni

ploome,

Didn't walid al-talil already own a 15% share in citigroup? (if memory serves, he bought into citigroup at the same time he invested in euro disney.)

601 reine.de.tout  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:32:59am
re: #492 lucius septimius

What makes this story not just tragic but shocking is that the perpetrator of the hoax, Lori Drew, is the mother of Megan's erstwhile pal. At the time she created "Josh," Mrs. Drew was 47.

We do not pretend to understand what motivates a grown woman to behave so viciously toward a girl barely a quarter her age. But perhaps it is not insignificant that Lori Drew lives in a society in which famous entertainers feel free to trumpet their fantasies of aggression against other people's children.

This type of evil is not as isolated as one might think. I don't know what has happened to our adults. My daughter started high school last year, and made some new "friends". By the end of the year, my daughter was a mental wreck, and was cutting herself, and luckily, it came to my attention and she has begun psychological treatment. The impetus for her behavior was her own insecurities, exacerbated by being bullied by one of her new "friends", and as we discovered later, the "friend's" actions were CONDONED AND ENCOURAGED by the girl's mother.

602 LanceKates  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:33:11am

re: #573 FrogMarch

because too few of even the Republican Candidates have balls.

603 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:33:22am

re: #594 TimeQuake

yes he is lol

/for the audio only

604 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:33:34am

re: #597 newsjunkie_ky

re: #579 ploome hineni


re: #491 ec marm

re: #464 storagemanager
Didja see the new Citigroup logo? Something different about it, I can't quite put my finger on it.

I cancelled my Citi credit cards yesterday

Can't believe that, glad I cancelled my card last year.


can't see it. cresent shaped? red and green?

605 Miss Trixie  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:33:53am

Owl

66 in Charlotte...sounds awesome

.

TTTHHHPPPBBBT!

/Bronx Cheer

606 LanceKates  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:34:19am

re: #577 lucius septimius

which official federal document is that "Seperation of Church and State" bit located?

*grin*

607 FrogMarch  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:34:38am

The left just laughs.
They cheat, they lie, they trick, they steal, they deceive --
and then they laugh because the damage they were seeking is done. Of course we all know that modern democrats are devoid of anything other than their lust for fascistic centralized government control. other than that the Dems are Stepford wives. Empty. So they have to cheat to win.

Sad.

Worse, the Republicans should have refused CNNs sham of a debate.

608 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:34:43am

{Real!}

Saw you upthread -- hope you're doing well today.

609 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:35:13am
Just three days after Norway's highest court upheld a state expulsion order against Mullah Krekar, the man who's considered a threat to the nation's security has made new threats against the country that's harboured him for years
Norwegian Broadcasting (NRK) reported Thursday that Krekar, the former head of Islamic guerrilla group Ansar al Islam, told a Kurdish web site that he's sure the Norwegian authorities will never deport him, because that would spark "reaction" against Norway from his Islamic supporters.

Krekar told web site Awane that the "reaction" would come from his relatives, from an armed group, and also from those who follow his religious teachings and sympathize with him.

The groups, he said, "probably are from Somalia or Morocco." He refused to specify what type of "reaction" he expected.

[Link: www.aftenposten.no...]

610 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:35:43am
611 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:35:44am

re: #558 mjazzguitar Good morning! Um, why can't they prosecute her?!

612 tfc3rid  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:35:59am

Don't watch any of the debates but it is incredible... The garden just keeps growing... It's incredible...

Such a set up... It's incredible...

613 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:36:20am

re: #606 LanceKates

re: #577 lucius septimius

which official federal document is that "Seperation of Church and State" bit located?

*grin*


In the "Living Constitution." The one with the green padded cover -- paraphrased, you know. Wouldn't want to be a literalist.

614 ronaldusmagnus  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:36:29am

Henry Hyde

Defender of Life

Sponsored (as a freshman congressman in 1976) the Hyde Amendment - banned federal funding of abortion through Medicaid. The year before passage of the bill, Medicaid paid for 200,000 abortions.

Analysts estimate that 1,000,000 Americans are alive today because mothers, unable to get a "free" abortion, gave birth to their babies and raised them or offered them for adoption.

You, dear reader, may be one of them.

God bless Henry Hyde.
R.I.P.

615 wahabicorridor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:36:41am

Oh, fer cryin' out loud, somebody just shoot this fucker.

Just three days after Norway's highest court upheld a state expulsion order against Mullah Krekar, the man who's considered a threat to the nation's security has made new threats against the country that's harboured him for years.
[]
Krekar told web site Awane that the "reaction" would come from his relatives, from an armed group, and also from those who follow his religious teachings and sympathize with him.
[]
Krekar's remarks are being widely interpreted as new threats against Norway, and that, predictably enough, has sparked more anger among Norwegians who can't understand why Krekar remains in the country.

616 ec marm  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:36:55am

re: #604 Owl

can't see it. cresent shaped? red and green?


The little red umbrella was replaced by a red islamic crescent held up by a red sword from the Saudi flag. It was a Photoshop, of course. So far, anyway...

617 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:37:05am

re: #601 reine.de.tout


I know people that are so good at hiding their true intentions that it takes a really keen eye and alot of thought to figure out exactly what's going on inside their little brains. manipulative people are evil cowards that get their kicks out of making someone else's life painful and sad. I know from personal experience that a manuplative person can destroy self-confidence, self-worth and more than that - they can destroy your sense of belonging and hope for the future. Evil. Pure evil.

618 LanceKates  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:37:38am

re: #613 lucius septimius

ahhh, between the right to an partial birth abortion and the right to universal healthcare? lol

619 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:37:40am
New Delhi, Nov 29: Over 81,000 Indians were deported from Gulf countries this year on various grounds, including non-possession of valid visas, resident permits and violation of local laws, government said on Thursday.

Majority of the Indian workers were deported from United Arab Emirates, followed by Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, figures tabled in the Rajya Sabha by the Ministry of Overseas Indian Affairs showed.

According to government, the UAE has deported or issued emergency certificates to 40,088 workers, while Saudi Arabia has taken action against 28,904 illegal migrants and Kuwait 8,234.

Other Middle-East countries who have deported Indian workers are Qatar (2,050), Bahrain (1,481) and Oman (1,086).

Giving the figures, Overseas Indian Affairs Minister Vayalar Ravi said Indian missions regularly take up the matter with local authorities for either regularising the stay of Indian workers or organising their smooth deportation.

"Further the complaints of ill treatment, harassment, breach of contracts received from Indian workers are also taken up by the missions with sponsors, labour department and police authorities," he said.

Indian missions in Gulf countries have received 1,865 complaints from female workers while the ministry has received 42 complaints regarding cheating, ill-treatment and non-payment or less payment of salary

[Link: www.zeenews.com...]

620 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:37:58am

re: #605 Miss Trixie


I always wondered how you spelled that. LOL

621 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:38:11am

re: #604 Owl
cresent, star, and sword at the end of the name.
Of course this could be a hoax.

622 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:38:52am

OK, gotta go edumacate the younglings. BBL.

623 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:38:55am
624 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:39:06am

re: #614 ronaldusmagnus

Henry Hyde

Defender of Life

Sponsored (as a freshman congressman in 1976) the Hyde Amendment - banned federal funding of abortion through Medicaid. The year before passage of the bill, Medicaid paid for 200,000 abortions.

Analysts estimate that 1,000,000 Americans are alive today because mothers, unable to get a "free" abortion, gave birth to their babies and raised them or offered them for adoption.

You, dear reader, may be one of them.

God bless Henry Hyde.
R.I.P.


RIP.

Being adopted, people like this are my heroes.

625 wahabicorridor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:40:12am

re: #609 storagemanager

I like my #615 better. The editorial commentary is more robust.

;D

626 reine.de.tout  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:40:17am

re: #617 Owl

You are right on target. That is exactly what happened, throughout the year, bullying under the guise of "friendship". It is going to take a long time to turn this around.

627 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:40:36am

re: #607 FrogMarch

The left just laughs.
They cheat, they lie, they trick, they steal, they deceive --
and then they laugh because the damage they were seeking is done. Of course we all know that modern democrats are devoid of anything other than their lust for fascistic centralized government control. other than that the Dems are Stepford wives. Empty. So they have to cheat to win.

Sad.

Worse, the Republicans should have refused CNNs sham of a debate.


In complete agreement. I tried to link to the page on Drudge about the questioners being declared obama and edwards people. Wouldn't open. Anyone else see it?

628 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:41:28am
629 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:42:23am

re: #564 Peacekeeper ROTFL! Good morning to you PK how are you today?

630 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:42:38am

re: #627 newsjunkie_ky

re: #607 FrogMarch


The left just laughs.
They cheat, they lie, they trick, they steal, they deceive --
and then they laugh because the damage they were seeking is done. Of course we all know that modern democrats are devoid of anything other than their lust for fascistic centralized government control. other than that the Dems are Stepford wives. Empty. So they have to cheat to win.

Sad.

Worse, the Republicans should have refused CNNs sham of a debate.


In complete agreement. I tried to link to the page on Drudge about the questioners being declared obama and edwards people. Wouldn't open. Anyone else see it?

What's sad is that half of America doesn't care if they cheat or not. Half of Americans are cheaters and liars themselves. And that may be a conservative figure, IMNSHO.

631 LanceKates  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:42:38am

re: #617 Owl

Saddly, some people can only like themselves (or at least pretend to) if they can work hard to try and make someone else's life miserable.

These are people who need to be swept into the dustbin of society and ignored as the useless individuals that they are.

632 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:42:39am
633 wahabicorridor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:43:09am

re: #601 reine.de.tout

and as we discovered later, the "friend's" actions were CONDONED AND ENCOURAGED by the girl's mother.

Wow. Is there anything you can do to her?

634 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:43:20am

re: #610 ploome hineni

re: #597 newsjunkie_ky


re: #579 ploome hineni

re: #491 ec marm

re: #464 storagemanager
Didja see the new Citigroup logo? Something different about it, I can't quite put my finger on it.

I cancelled my Citi credit cards yesterday

Can't believe that, glad I cancelled my card last year.

cancelled 2, kept one because of 0% financing ... ending march, then that will go

I am embarassed to tell you how many I have...many unused

I got rid of every one of my cards except one. It changed from MBNA to Bank of America. Not happy about that.
I'm trying to live a debt free live (well, still have my mortgage). I have in the past had way too much debt. Finally paid it all off and will never have credit card debt again.

635 Peacekeeper  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:43:23am

re: #629 realwest

re: #564 Peacekeeper ROTFL! Good morning to you PK how are you today?

Doing well, some hamsters reloading LGF tho...

636 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:43:31am

re: #591 ronaldusmagnus

Henry Hyde R.I.P.

Congressman Henry Hyde (R-IL) passed away at 3:00 a.m. today.

God bless Henry Hyde.

He was a fairly good guy there. Here's the Tribune story, and the front page of CBS2.

In other news, Mike Flannery of CBS2 asks, "Where's Blago?".

637 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:43:53am
638 Carl in Jerusalem  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:44:13am

re: #595 storagemanager

Kissinger in 1969: Israelis most likely to use nukes
Declassified memo authored by President Nixon's prominent national security advisor indicates administration was deeply concerned by possibility Israel was developing nuclear arms

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Developing? I suspect we had them by then...

639 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:44:25am

Good Morning Lizards,

I didn't get fired yesterday (we'll see how today works out). Thanks to everyone for the prayers & support - it's really touching that people whom I've never met care about me. LGF is really a wonderful community - something I don't think our detractors will ever understand.

Last night's lecture & Q&A with Mark Steyn was great - I feel sorry for you people who had to watch the YouTube debate instead. Mr. Steyn is as funny & insightful in person as he is in print. I even got a free copy of a book refuting Jimmy Carter's "Peace not Apartheid" BS.

640 3 wood  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:45:14am

re: #599 LanceKates


COMMUNISTS LIE! They always lie to make their communist country look like it is doing well. But don't worry, the AP is there to help the cover-story.

100% correct. That is why foreign capital tends to dry up where ever a communist regime takes over. That, and their tendancy to confiscate assets.

641 kentuckyjoe  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:45:35am

Up the rear...March! Woops, I mean to the rear, March!

642 Carl in Jerusalem  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:45:54am

re: #598 njdhockeyfan

Cell Phone May Have Killed SKorean Man

SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — An exploding cell phone battery is suspected by police in the death of a South Korean worker Wednesday, though the phone's manufacturer said it was highly unlikely.

The man, identified only by his family name Suh, was found dead at his workplace in a quarry Wednesday morning and his mobile phone battery was melted in his shirt pocket, a police official in Cheongwon told The Associated Press.

"We presume that the cell phone battery exploded," the police official said on condition of anonymity because the investigation was still under way.
...
An LG official confirmed its product was involved in the accident but said the company would not comment directly on the incident because the cause was not confirmed. However, the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity due to company policy, said such a fatal explosion would be virtually impossible.

I guess they never heard of Yihye Ayash.

643 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:46:00am
Slovakia suspects 'had uranium'

Uranium seized in Slovakia on Wednesday was enriched enough to be used in a dirty bomb which could spread radioactive material, police have said. The uranium was found during a raid on alleged smugglers near the Hungarian border. Three people were detained.

Tick tock..just a matter of time...and it is not on our side. [Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

644 GraniteLizard  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:46:02am

Who does that stupid snowman work for?

645 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:46:03am

re: #615 wahabicorridor Loads round in chamber and is looking for a decent photo for id purposes...how are you this fine morning?

646 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:46:03am

re: #613 lucius septimius

re: #606 LanceKates

re: #577 lucius septimius

which official federal document is that "Seperation of Church and State" bit located?

*grin*


In the "Living Constitution." The one with the green padded cover -- paraphrased, you know. Wouldn't want to be a literalist.

How I wish I could play poker with a "Living Hoyle's." Then my hand of 5 unmatched, non-sequential cards would win the pot!

647 reine.de.tout  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:46:04am

re: #633 wahabicorridor

re: #601 reine.de.tout


and as we discovered later, the "friend's" actions were CONDONED AND ENCOURAGED by the girl's mother.

Wow. Is there anything you can do to her?


No, and of course, our situation, although serious, didn't rise to the level of the situation where the girl committed suicide. My only concern at this point is to make sure my daughter gets her head straight, including getting a tougher outlook.

648 Miss Trixie  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:47:07am

{CtP}

'I'm a Cranky Old Yank in a Clanky Old Tank on the Streets of Yokohama with my Honolulu Mama Doin' Those Beat-o, Beat-o Flat-On-My-Seat-o, Hirohito Blues'

Har! Not bad for an old dood and it's almost as good as Lewis Grizzard's

"Don't Bend over in the Garden, Granny - Them Taters Got Eyes"

:D

How's Lightning?

Corridor

good morning Missie. Hey, how does your little girl fare when the snow is deep? Does she like snow?

Usually the snow is taller than she is so she doesn't go out often because she gets cold quickly. However, after I sweep snow off my small deck I let her out, down the stairs like greased lightning only to charge across the courtyard to her favorite spot behind the birdbath to yell at the neighbor's cat. I have to go get her and put her inside because she's so focused on the evil feline she forgets she's cold and shivering.

She's so entertaining.

649 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:47:22am

re: #630 Owl
So true, the Republicans try to rise above the dishonesty of the dems. But instead, they just get their a** handed to them constantly.

650 Ben Hur  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:48:26am

re: #638 Carl in Jerusalem

re: #595 storagemanager


Kissinger in 1969: Israelis most likely to use nukes
Declassified memo authored by President Nixon's prominent national security advisor indicates administration was deeply concerned by possibility Israel was developing nuclear arms

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Developing? I suspect we had them by then...

I saw a ridiculous healine on Captivate (screen in an elevator) from CNN yesterday.

About how declassified Nixon docs showed that terrorism and ME peace were concerns even 30 years ago.

It was written as if that is supposed to be some big revelation.

30 years ago.

I know the MSM has historical amnesia, but that was ridiculous.

(and boker effen tov)

651 wahabicorridor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:48:49am

re: #639 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey


Well speak of the devil! I was just about to ask if anyone had heard from you. Glad to hear all is well and will continue to pray.

But what's the name of the book that refutes Jimmuh?

652 mjazzguitar  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:48:56am

re: #537 lawhawk I remember maybe five years ago the Germans caught some guys from one of those breakaway Russian republics trying to sell stuff like that.
I don't want to sound pessimistic but it seems like it's only a matter of time.

653 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:49:07am

re: #639 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

YEAH!

654 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:49:40am

re: #631 LanceKates

I agree, but quite often they possesss such skill at deception ( from years of practice I can only assume) that people think they are just the greatest folks they've ever met. I'm sure many folks have known a person that the boss thought was just the best ever, but you knew( and maybe your co-workers as well) that they used half the people in the office( or in your family, whatever the case may be) to forward their own selfish and sometimes cruel agenda.

If the internet is good for one thing, I guess it's venting. My family doesn't know this, but I was mistreated bya family member when I was young. I don't sit around blaming that situation on my current life, but I can objectively look at it and say that that period in my life has created some problems for me over the years. But one thing it did do is gave me have a kind of "super-radar" for manipulative, evil people. The offender died in a car accident years and years ago, and I can say to you all without shame that I did not shed one tear for that sick SOB.


anyhoot. . . .

I know they didn't put the belt around that poor girl's neck, but they are the reason she is not here today and they should pay for their actions and hateful ways.

655 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:49:44am
656 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:49:48am

re: #623 ploome hineni Hi ya Ploome! Hope you're well this morning.
Hey, look at it this way: the oil rich Arabs are bailing us out of banks with shitty leadership, that looks out only for themselves (well shareholders but that's only cause these CEO's and Chairmen of the Boards, etc get their bonuses in stock options, so their idea of long term planning is, oh, next week!
Invest - all you mofos rich Arabs - we'd love to get some of our oil money back!

657 Ben Hur  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:50:22am

re: #650 Ben Hur

re: #638 Carl in Jerusalem


re: #595 storagemanager

Kissinger in 1969: Israelis most likely to use nukes
Declassified memo authored by President Nixon's prominent national security advisor indicates administration was deeply concerned by possibility Israel was developing nuclear arms

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

Developing? I suspect we had them by then...

I saw a ridiculous healine on Captivate (screen in an elevator) from CNN yesterday.

About how declassified Nixon docs showed that terrorism and ME peace were concerns even 30 years ago.

It was written as if that is supposed to be some big revelation.

30 years ago.

I know the MSM has historical amnesia, but that was ridiculous.

(and boker effen tov)

because Israelis are "one of the few people whose survival is genuinely threatened."

And of course that last little bit of WHY they would need them, doesn't make such a scandalous headline.

658 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:51:17am

re: #646 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

goodtaseeya

659 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:51:32am

re: #639 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey


Dude. Great to hear it. I'll keep you in my prayers. Lizards are awesome people.

660 LanceKates  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:52:04am

re: #640 3 wood

Don't trust anyone to the left of Ronald Reagan! lol.

661 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:52:19am

re: #648 Miss Trixie

Our little ones don't realize how small they really are. Meg only goes after animals that are bigger than she is. She loves the ducks that live in the creek behind our house.

662 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:52:35am

re: #635 Peacekeeper Huh, the hamsters on my computer seem to be doing rather well!
Didja refresh?

663 wahabicorridor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:52:42am

re: #645 realwest

re: #615 wahabicorridor Loads round in chamber and is looking for a decent photo for id purposes...how are you this fine morning?

He's the one with a beard down to his knees, in a tunic, who hasn't bathed in about 10 years...and we're just fine, thank you!

re: #637 ploome hineni

heh.

665 Ben Hur  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:54:05am

Surprised?

Can ignorance be so far reaching?

AIWA.

666 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:54:25am
(IsraelNN.com) In a speech at the Annapolis conference, United States Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice compared Israeli policy in Judea and Samaria to segregation between blacks and whites in the US south decades ago, according to the Washington Post. “I know what it is like to hear that you cannot go on a road... because you are Palestinian,” she said, referring to Israel’s policy of creating separate Jewish and Arab roads in areas where there have been repeated attacks.

Rice also expressed sympathy with Israelis, saying she knows what it is like to live with constant suicide bombings and other attacks because a local black church was bombed by white separatists when she was a child, killing one of her classmates and three other girls. “There is pain on both sides,” she said.

One side is causing it...shut up. [Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

667 LanceKates  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:54:55am

re: #646 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

the liberals and their 'living Constitution" does remind me of a 4 year old playing a game of "I win!"

668 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:54:58am
669 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:55:09am

re: #651 wahabicorridor

re: #639 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey


Well
speak of the devil! I was just about to ask if anyone had heard from
you. Glad to hear all is well and will continue to pray.

But what's the name of the book that refutes Jimmuh?

It's a monograph published by CAMERA.org - I forget the title. Inshallah, I'll let you know tomorrow.

670 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:55:20am

re: #639 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey Hey - I'm sure glad you didn't get fired yesterday, but now you're worried about today? What, is your company "downsizing" in bits and pieces or didja piss someone off?!LOL!
Anyway, you are right about LGF being a community of (mostly) great folks! SO in that spirit I wish y'all the best today and in the days and weeks to come!

671 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:55:31am

I liked this comment at Politico:

CNN just confirms that this gay general was on Hillary's gay steering committee. you think they would have checked this before hand! Hillary mind you own business! send the general back to CA and stay out of my foxhole.

Posted By: tractor guy | November 28, 2007 at 11:01 PM

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

672 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:55:44am
Rocket attack north of Baghdad kills 12, wounds 25: Iraqi police

[Link: www.reuters.com...]

673 ec marm  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:55:50am

re: #537 lawhawk

The U.S. response. Recognizing the need for the United States to provide assistance, Senators Sam Nunn of Georgia and Richard Lugar of Indiana sponsored legislation that allocated funds to help Russia and other former Soviet states either dismantle or secure nuclear materials. Congress agreed, and in 1991– 92 it authorized $800 million for the Nunn-Lugar Cooperative Threat Reduction Program. Each year after that, additional funds were authorized so that by 2001 the United States had provided $4 billion. These funds have been used by the Department of Defense (DOD), the Department of Energy (DOE), and other U.S. agencies to help the Soviet states destroy nuclear materials, upgrade security, and provide alternative employment for former Soviet nuclear scientists.


[Link: www.answers.com...]

674 Ben Hur  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:56:19am

re: #664 Carl in Jerusalem

Peres: 1000 Jewish lives worthwhile to recognize pre-1967 borders

Average annual terror deaths pre-Oslo: apprx 17+.
Average annual terror deaths post-Oslo: apprx 140+.

675 Dustoff-507  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:56:42am

Morning REALWEST. How ya doing buddy.

676 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:57:00am

On topic.
CNN had to know about this general. They interviewed him in '03 on the subject. Someone last night linked to the story. Love the net, you can find so many things that the left try to hide.
Especially bill clinton trying to say NOW that he did not support the Iraq War from the beginning. Too bad his words come back to bite him on his a**.
But the left still won't believe it even when they see and hear it come from the creep's mouth.

677 Ben Hur  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:57:51am

re: #666 storagemanager


What a fool.

It's not because they are Pali, it is because they kill Jews.

678 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:58:24am

re: #660 LanceKates

re: #640 3 wood

Don't trust anyone to the left of Ronald Reagan! lol.

All Mark Steyn had to do to get a standing O last night was mention Reagan's name! It was a good crowd of people, around 1500, or as Steyn put it - roughly half the number of people in the entire country who have seen "Redacted" & he didn't have nearly the budget of DePalma.

679 wahabicorridor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:58:25am

Has anyone heard of Leslie Lebel? From some organization called The Atlantic Council of the United States?

Lebel, a senior fellow of the Atlantic Council of the United States, spoke about radical Islam in Europe and the strain between European nationals and Muslim immigrants at the U's Hinckley Institute of Politics on Wednesday. She said the cause of strain is rooted in immigrants' resistance to integration.
[]
The relationship between radical Islamic groups and Naziism is based in the worship of death, blood-lust and a control over peoples' lives in all aspects, but the central concept is a hatred of Jews, Lebel said.

680 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:58:29am

re: #648 {Miss Trixie} Hey, good morning and a *smooch* for you too, gorgeous! How's things by you this fine morning?

681 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:59:47am
682 mjazzguitar  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 6:59:57am

re: #541 wahabicorridor
I can't believe she had the audacity to go to the funeral. If I was there and knew the girl and knew what had happened I'd be hard pressed to keep my mouth shut.

683 Miss Trixie  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:00:17am

Beer Drinking Victory Monkey

I'm glad to know you're here today.

684 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:00:32am

re: #649 newsjunkie_ky

re: #630 Owl
So true, the Republicans try to rise above the dishonesty of the dems. But instead, they just get their a** handed to them constantly.

I agree, but think we also ought to remember that Republicans are politicians, too. Not as adept at some things political as the Dems, but not worth deifying, either.
Gotta keep some perspective ya know?!

685 razorbacker  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:00:47am

Fool me once, shame on you.

Fool me twice, shame on me.

Fool me this many times and I think you're pissing down my leg and telling me that it's raining.

[Link: michellemalkin.com...]

I'd call it incredible, but it's all too credible.

686 christheprofessor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:02:18am

re: #648 {Miss Trixie}

Oh, that's not mine. It was by Hoagie Carmichael, and was written in 1943. According to the web site where I found it, Carmichael says the real title ended at "Tank" and the rest was a joke...

Lightning's great, thanks -- sound asleep at my feet after a playful morning and just getting back from the neighbor's house (who helps me get ear-drops in her, as I can't hold her and do the drops at the same time -- she'll also be taking care of her today and next Thursday while I have class)...

687 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:02:52am

re: #655 BabbaZee WHOA! Glad to hear WLGF is still on the air and as robust as ever!
Did you ever think your "radio" station would have more listeners than "Air America"?!

688 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:03:06am
689 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:03:10am
690 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:05:07am

re: #664 Carl in Jerusalem Good morning Carl.
I hate to say it, especially as you've taken the time to explain Israeli politics to me in some depth, but WTF IS WRONG with Israel's "Leaders"?!

691 Ben Hur  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:05:09am

And someone needs to remind Condi that MLK was a Zionist.

692 LanceKates  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:05:44am

re: #678 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Heh. What a dump that movie has become. Are they starting to get the idea yet? Doubt it.

693 csdeven  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:05:59am

re: #375 Owl

Thanks! I've been around a while, mostly lurking. I'm looking forward to lots of fun discussion.

694 Widow'smight  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:06:03am

re: #676 newsjunkie_ky

Hello there Lady! When they mentioned Clinton Plant, were they thinking along the lines of Penis/Fly trap or something?

695 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:06:09am

re: #646 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #613 lucius septimius

re: #606 LanceKates

re: #577 lucius septimius

which official federal document is that "Seperation of Church and State" bit located?

*grin*


In the "Living Constitution." The one with the green padded cover -- paraphrased, you know. Wouldn't want to be a literalist.

How I wish I could play poker with a "Living Hoyle's." Then my hand of 5 unmatched, non-sequential cards would win the pot!

We used to call that "Full Apartment."

696 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:07:11am

re: #664 Carl in Jerusalem

Forget that - Hamas wants a do-over - all the way back to demanding the UN rescind the 1947 Partition plan.

Nice.

697 wahabicorridor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:07:43am

re: #682 mjazzguitar

re: #541 wahabicorridor
I can't believe she had the audacity to go to the funeral. If I was there and knew the girl and knew what had happened I'd be hard pressed to keep my mouth shut.


Oh, it's even worse than you think. Meagan's family knew! And they weren't allowed to say anything in public due to the investigation. That's why the'yre going public now - the very least they can do is shame this woman beyond beilief. reine.de.toute take note.

When Meagan's family found out, they took a ping pong table (I think) the Drews had bought as a Christmas present for the kids and asked them to store, smashed it to pieces and dumped it in the Drews' driveway.

The Drews called the cops...

698 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:07:57am

Well, just wanted let everyone know that June had breast reconstruction surgery yesterday, and she's doing fine. It was a nine-hour procedure (DIEP flap), so it took alot out of her (it starts with a tummy tuck, then they use recovered skin and fat to construct new breasts).

Please send prayers for a successful recovery. She's going to be pretty sore for the next few weeks. She gets out of the hospital on Sunday, and her mom is here to help out with the kids.

699 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:08:05am

re: #676 newsjunkie_ky

On topic.
CNN had to know about this general. They interviewed him in '03 on the subject. Someone last night linked to the story. Love the net, you can find so many things that the left try to hide.
Especially bill clinton trying to say NOW that he did not support the Iraq War from the beginning. Too bad his words come back to bite him on his a**.
But the left still won't believe it even when they see and hear it come from the creep's mouth.

It's actually not that they "won't believe it", it's that they don't care. Satan could be running for them, and they'd vote for him.

700 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:08:26am

re: #675 Dustoff-507 Hey, good morning to you my friend! I be doing ok today, how's about yourownself? Did you or are you getting the snow that was forecast for your area?

701 mjazzguitar  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:08:42am

re: #566 lawhawk

Oh, and the identities of the trio is not public as yet.

they probably have names like Smith, Jones, & Wilson.

702 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:09:06am

re: #655 BabbaZee

For Geepers wherever you are

Jim Carroll, wasn't he a heroin addict?

703 razorbacker  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:09:23am

Talking about digging through horsesh*t looking for the pony.

My wife just said, "Isn't it wonderful how the Republicans have had their people planted at all these different Democratic candidates' campaigns all this time?"

704 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:09:43am

re: #702 Ward Cleaver

yes he was

705 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:09:59am

Well since this is a DT and Charles is still abed, Lets have some fun for the morning commute. We all know that the islamofascist are within our borders and have been gathering intel on our airport security and info-structure, right? But what ARE they looking for? I suggest that on your way to work (it's my "Sunday"), look around you. If you "were" a terrorist, what targets would you select? Would it be that large electrical substation? How about those 2 5K gallon propane tanks at the local plant? I know! The Elementary school that has a drive all the way to the front door with NO barricades to stop you? Scary isn't it? My point? If we as a society are going to fight these scum bags, we had better start thinking like them in terms of tactics and targets, otherwise we will continue to be "surprised" when they attack and destroy "soft" targets with impunity. Forewarned is forearmed.

/grabs coat and runs for door

706 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:10:10am

re: #701 mjazzguitar

re: #566 lawhawk

Oh, and the identities of the trio is not public as yet.

they probably have names like Smith, Jones, & Wilson.

Let's introduce them to Smith & Wesson, or Heckler & Koch. ;-)

707 Ward Cleaver  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:11:04am

re: #703 razorbacker

Talking about digging through horsesh*t looking for the pony.

My wife just said, "Isn't it wonderful how the Republicans have had their people planted at all these different Democratic candidates' campaigns all this time?"

Whuuut?

708 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:11:19am

re: #676 newsjunkie_ky Morning! Don't know it it's been posted yet, but on Fox this morning all that chicanery rated was two sentences: one about what Hillary had done by planting that "general" and the other being "the joke's on CNN".
I didn't find a damn thing funny about it at all and can't believe FOX gave it such minute mention.

709 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:12:24am
710 RobCon  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:12:30am

CNN is so full of shinola. Deabtes in front of audiences, much less You Tube, should be banned. Let these candidates
stand and make their own remarks without a cheering/booing section
and without cute tricks like this one.
This You Tube debate is a mistake and embarrasment.
Take a bow CNN.

711 LanceKates  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:12:33am

michelle malkin on Glenn Beck's show.

712 Dustoff-507  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:12:55am

re: #700 realwest


Naaa got cheated. It's 35 outside, but no dang clouds! )-:

Hows the leg?

713 christheprofessor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:13:10am

re: #698 Ward Cleaver

Glad to hear she's doing well, and consider it done...

714 LanceKates  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:13:18am

talking about the plants in the debate.

Said that "CNN is becoming the home and garden channel" with all the plants. heh.

715 wahabicorridor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:13:24am

re: #669 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It's a monograph published by CAMERA.org - I forget the title. Inshallah, I'll let you know tomorrow.


There are only 2 monographs on their website - one about NPR and this
Arab Building in Jerusalem 1967-1997

Since reunification of the city in 1967 Jerusalem's Arab population, far from dwindling, has increased faster than its Jewish population, with 163.4% growth by the Arabs and just 113.6% growth by the Jews. It follows that rather than being "Judaized," Jerusalem is actually less Jewish today than it was in 1967. Indeed, the Arab population of Jerusalem and its environs has increased more rapidly over the past 30 years under Israeli rule than during any other period in the 20th century.

716 njdhockeyfan  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:14:54am
717 Widow'smight  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:15:10am

re: #706 Ward Cleaver

Remm & Ton would make a good impression on/in them too.

718 hayseed  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:15:25am

re: #698 Ward Cleaver

prayers going out.

719 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:16:21am

re: #693 csdeven

re: #375 Owl

Thanks! I've been around a while, mostly lurking. I'm looking forward to lots of fun discussion.


And if you are the same csdeven from Hot Air, I've been lurking there for quite a while - and I'm looking forward to your ever constant, never changing, acid-filled diatribes on the evil and obviously phoney, satanic, puppy-kicking, candy stealing, baby slapping, butterfly squishing, manifestation of pure evil that is Fred Thompson. Well, according to you, anwyay. Oh, and I hope you brought your brother Tommylotto with you.

/ ooops. played my hand already. oh well...never was much for diplomacy.

720 csdeven  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:17:36am

re: #698 Ward Cleaver

Well, just wanted let everyone know that June had breast reconstruction surgery yesterday, and she's doing fine. It was a nine-hour procedure (DIEP flap), so it took alot out of her (it starts with a tummy tuck, then they use recovered skin and fat to construct new breasts).

Please send prayers for a successful recovery. She's going to be pretty sore for the next few weeks. She gets out of the hospital on Sunday, and her mom is here to help out with the kids.

Prayers to you and yours.

721 TimeQuake  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:17:48am
722 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:17:55am

re: #705 Bubblehead II

Football Stadiums full of people. I used to not post/say that, but it's been out for a while now. If you wanted to kill 40,000 instead of 3,000...

On a smaller scale - malls at Christmas, movie theaters, etc. But I tihnk we've been on guard for that for some time now.

723 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:18:01am
724 razorbacker  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:18:11am

re: #707 Ward Cleaver

You know, since CNN is a professional news disguiser organisation, and this was a Republican debate presumably attended by Republicans, evidently all these plants were hidden Republicans covertly working in the Edwards, Obama, Clinton, etc. camps all along.

Wow. Now my head hurts.

725 wahabicorridor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:18:16am

re: #698 Ward Cleaver

Ah jeez. If memory serves, she's going to need help washing her hair & stuff - tough to lift the arms.

I'm just gonna have to start walking around on my knees all day, is all...

726 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:18:33am

Firefighter Charged For Showing Up to Work Naked — Except for the Tie ...

"I knew Ken was going to come to work naked, so I brought a camera with me."



[Link: www.breitbart.tv...]

727 mjazzguitar  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:18:58am

re: #601 reine.de.tout
Once my sister had a kid's bike stolen from her yard. Later on a lady stopped by with her son and the bike. She said the son had been riding with his father when he saw the bike and said he'd like to have it. The father said you want it? He stopped and took the bike! Can you believe that shit? The lady said, do whatever you want, call the cops, whatever, I'm through with this guy.

728 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:19:10am

re: #698 Ward Cleaver
gotcha

729 ecor1  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:19:10am

heck its not just clinton

CNN selected GROVER Nordquist for gosh sake for a question.

grover is the ultra right wing shadowy saudi/islamic associated fringe group associated guy with all kinds of strangeness. and he is selected for a question?

730 LanceKates  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:20:12am

re: #722 Owl

some muslim kid in okc tried that during a sooners game.

He was denied entry because they wanted to look in his book bag.

After trying to different gates, he ended up running away from the stadium, found a bench nearby and blew himself up.

No one was nearby, so no one important was hurt.

just one more soul sending itself to hell.

731 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:20:17am
732 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:20:49am
733 mjazzguitar  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:21:45am

re: #611 realwest Morning. Geez, i wish I knew.

734 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:22:17am

re: #685 razorbacker Well look at it this way - all the Republicans (except Paul) have a shot at getting the nomination and they're now getting some practice swings at what might be asked in a debate with whomever the Dem's nominate!

735 Iron Fist[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:22:18am
736 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:22:37am

csdeven...I forgot to say that some here say you are a great person, otherwise. I'm anxious to get to know this guy, and I hope he comes out here at LGF.

Nothing personal. I just call em like i see em.


btw - just so you know, my choice right now would be


Rush( not running)
Hunter( unknown to most of America)
Newt( not running)
Fred( barely running)
Huck( running pretty well right now)
Tanc( barely alive)
Mitt( better than Hillary)
Rudy( barely better than Hillary)
in that order.

737 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:22:38am

re: #694 Widow'smight

re: #676 newsjunkie_ky

Hello there Lady! When they mentioned Clinton Plant, were they thinking along the lines of Penis/Fly trap or something?

LOL
How ya been?

738 Adrenalyn  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:22:39am

yes this will hurt Hitlery
but the Republican candidates will be hurt too
for being foolish enough to appear on a CNN "debate"

what dumb fucks they all are

wake up you bunch of woosies and fight back
just because POTUS won't
doesn't mean you all have to take this

739 LanceKates  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:22:43am

re: #731 buzzsawmonkey

Don't forget that the dem candidates are going to avoid the CBS debate, because they dont want to cross the 'picket line' of the writers' strike...

here's the real story: The more one actually KNOWS about the democrats, the less one wants to vote for them. As long as the light is kept on how evil and stupid the republicans are, the democrats don't have to worry about speaking.

740 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:23:07am
741 Miss Trixie  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:23:17am

re: #680 realwest

re: #648 {Miss Trixie} Hey, good morning and a *smooch* for you too, gorgeous! How's things by you this fine morning?

Things are fine, thanks for asking although I'm awful tired of the white stuff and it's only November ferpetesake!

How's by you and your mom is well?

742 wahabicorridor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:23:23am

re: #730 LanceKates

re: #722 Owl

some muslim kid in okc tried that during a sooners game.

He was denied entry because they wanted to look in his book bag.

After trying to different gates, he ended up running away from the stadium, found a bench nearby and blew himself up.

No one was nearby, so no one important was hurt.

just one more soul sending itself to hell.

And the cops have yet to tell the truth about that...

743 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:24:06am

re: #698 Ward Cleaver

Glad she is doing good. You all take care, and know that you are in our prayers and thougts.

744 LanceKates  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:24:20am

re: #742 wahabicorridor

It isn't the first time that a muslim connection was ignored and/or covered up.

Jose "John Doe II" Padilla comes to mind.

745 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:24:42am

re: #695 lucius septimius Good morning lucius!
How are you this fine morning?

746 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:25:00am
IsraelNN.com) Hamas demanded Thursday that the United Nations rescind its 1947 decision to split British Mandatory Palestine between its Jewish and Arab populations. “Palestine is Arab Islamic land, from the river to the sea, including Jerusalem,” the group said. “There is no room in it for the Jews.”

Palestinian Authority negotiator Ahmed Qureia (Abu Ala) recently suggested using the 1947 Partition plan to determine borders. The UN did not enforce the plan, leaving Israel to fight the War of Independence against invading Arab forces, losing Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, and Gaza for 19 years

Somewhere ole Jimmey is smiling. [Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

747 christheprofessor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:25:09am

re: #727 mjazzguitar

Amazing. I remember once, when I was a little kid (maybe 5 or 6) going to the store with my father. While their, I found a card (sort of like a baseball card) with a dinosaur (as I recall) on it and picked it up and took it with me. In the car on the way home, my father saw it and asked where I got it. I told him I found it on the floor in the store. He gently told me that that was stealing, that I couldn't just pick up things that I like and take them with me, even if they were on the floor. Lesson learned.

My how fathering (at least for some, and if one can even call it that) has changed...

748 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:26:17am

re: #732 BabbaZee

I love Yul Brynner

Did you see the anti-smoking ad he did ...just before he died...I almost quit then..lol

749 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:26:24am

re: #698 Ward Cleaver Hey Ward - I'm sending prayers up now. Hope all goes well.

750 Honorary Yooper  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:26:59am

Placing plants puts panting Pantsuit on hot plate

:-)

751 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:27:05am

re: #688 ploome hineni

re: #668 BabbaZee


How I love Tim Curry

I love Tim Curry

I also think he is a little embarrassed by his role in Rocky Horror

Or maybe he's just embarrassed that he co-starred with Susan Saranwrap.


Hi all... I've been lurking. I just haven't been real talkative lately. I get the blues this time of year.

752 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:27:27am

re: #708 realwest

I've heard them talk it up a little more recently. Carl Cameron did a good segment on it.
What I meant in earlier comment about the Republicans is, that they don't do as many down and dirty tricks as the dems. How do I know, because we would HEAR all about it from the msm.

753 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:27:58am

re: #736 Owl
Rush say's he can't afford the pay cut..lol

754 wahabicorridor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:28:25am

Ok, this is very cool...

The only surviving copy of an Imperial Roman road map went on public display in Austria's National Library on Monday

Rome is at the heart of the map, which sets it apart from medieval maps, where Jerusalem is placed at the centre of the world (plus ça change...). Twelve roads radiate from the capital, including the Via Appia, which can be followed still.

Each road, marked on the map in red, is fairly straight, but notches are marked at regular intervals, said to show daily rest stops. Markings show how far can be travelled in a day. Hundreds of towns and rests are depicted with images of villas and other buildings: Along with Rome, the other most prominent cities are Constantinople and Antioch.

755 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:28:45am

re: #748 storagemanager

LOL yes I remember that well
gave me the creeps it did!

756 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:29:11am

re: #712 Dustoff-507 Leg's holding up real fine, long as I don't walk on it! LOL!
Will hopefully know more after Dec 4th meeting with the surgeon.

757 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:29:23am

re: #732 BabbaZee

I love Yul Brynner


I think he was sexy, but then again I have a thing for bald men.

This one is cute too:[Link: stng.36el.com...]

758 LanceKates  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:30:16am

re: #753 storagemanager

not to mention that he'd have to give up his radio show for the entire campaign.

759 Dustoff-507  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:31:01am

re: #726 storagemanager

I've done that before... LOL

760 Miss Trixie  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:31:35am

{ { Ward & June Cleaver } }

Best wishes for June's complete recovery and I'll say a few humble words for you and on your family's behalf.

761 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:31:50am

re: #751 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

For your blues

762 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:31:59am
At least 16 people have died of Ebola in an outbreak in western Uganda, a senior Ministry of Health official said Thursday.

Dr. Sam Zaramba, director general of health service, said laboratory tests in South Africa and the United States had confirmed 51 Ebola cases, and of those 16 patients died.

Ebola kills most of those it strikes through massive blood loss, and has no cure or treatment. It is spread through direct contact with the blood or secretions of an infected person, or objects that have been contaminated with infected secretions

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

763 ec marm  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:32:34am

re: #739 LanceKates

Don't forget that the dem candidates are going to avoid the CBS debate, because they dont want to cross the 'picket line' of the writers' strike...

here's the real story: The more one actually KNOWS about the democrats, the less one wants to vote for them.


I've been watching the Rasmussen poll numbers for Hillary vs. the Republicans for a while. She's been slipping after every debate she participates in, which backs up your theory.

764 mjazzguitar  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:32:45am

re: #650 Ben Hur
Back then when they shot the man in the wheelchair because he was Jewish, on the Achille Lauro, and killed the Israeli athletes at the Olympics, the world reacted with revulsion. Now the Israelis are the bad guys who are supposed to hand their land over to these murderers.

765 wahabicorridor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:32:48am
"The bishop said the emergence of nationalism had been evident during the Euro 2004 football tournament and recent military anniversaries such as D-Day.

""It is like American culture where there is this view that America is the land of the free when we know it is not. But there are those in America who want to maintain that it is and want to impose their understanding, their culture, their way of doing things on everybody else. That is dangerous.""

The good Bishop was recently appointed Britain's first Bishop for Urban Life and Faith

766 Owl  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:33:02am

re: #730 LanceKates

re: #722 Owl

some muslim kid in okc tried that during a sooners game.

He was denied entry because they wanted to look in his book bag.

After trying to different gates, he ended up running away from the stadium, found a bench nearby and blew himself up.

No one was nearby, so no one important was hurt.

just one more soul sending itself to hell.


hmm...Yeah. figures.

I'm glad they didn't think of using the jets to crash into a full stadium during the Superbowl or something. I doubt we would have worried much about being so precise in our efforts for justice.

767 Bubblehead II  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:33:11am

re: #722 Owl

re: #705 Bubblehead II

Football Stadiums full of people. I used to not post/say that, but it's been out for a while now. If you wanted to kill 40,000 instead of 3,000...

On a smaller scale - malls at Christmas, movie theaters, etc. But I tihnk we've been on guard for that for some time now.

Yes, for the most part we have, but to concentrate only on places likely to have large numbers of people/casualties is only part of the equation. We have to look after the rest of the infra-structure. This lesson should have been learned from the guerrilla warfare in South America. Destroy the infra-structure and you can effectively destroy/seriously cripple a community or state without killing a lot of people and do so with relative impunity.

768 csdeven  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:33:40am

re: #719 Owl

re: #693 csdeven

re: #375 Owl

Thanks! I've been around a while, mostly lurking. I'm looking forward to lots of fun discussion.


And if you are the same csdeven from Hot Air, I've been lurking there for quite a while - and I'm looking forward to your ever constant, never changing, acid-filled diatribes on the evil and obviously phoney, satanic, puppy-kicking, candy stealing, baby slapping, butterfly squishing, manifestation of pure evil that is Fred Thompson. Well, according to you, anwyay. Oh, and I hope you brought your brother Tommylotto with you.

/ ooops. played my hand already. oh well...never was much for diplomacy.

That depends. Is LGF full of tons of Fred groupies and their ever constant, never changing, hair renting lovefests on the perfection and obviously sincere, angelic, puppy-loving, candy giving, baby kissing, butterfly freeing, manifestation of pure goodness that is Fred Thompson? If so, then they will get here exactly what the groupies at HA get. Huge doses of reality concerning Fred.

And if your comment is what you really think, the hand you played shows that you clearly don't lurk there enough to get the whole story.

769 ploome hineni[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:33:46am
770 Carl in Jerusalem  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:35:17am

re: #690 realwest

re: #664 Carl in Jerusalem Good morning Carl.
I hate to say it, especially as you've taken the time to explain Israeli politics to me in some depth, but WTF IS WRONG with Israel's "Leaders"?!

Good morning RW.

Peres isn't our fault - the Knesset elected him. He has never won a national election in Israel. The joke is that he couldn't be elected to the board of his coop.

771 Widow'smight  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:35:34am

re: #737 newsjunkie_ky

I'm very well thank you. It's a little cool up here in Pennsyltucky, and it would be nice to see the sun come out tomorrow, bet your bottom dollar that ...

My sister and family were in over Thanksgiving from Cincinnati. Had a wonderful time.

Are you still as lovely as ever?

772 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:36:04am
773 LanceKates  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:36:12am

re: #763 ec marm

I only know from personal experience. The more I learn about the Democrats and their history, the less I want to acknowledge them as living breathing humans.

I at least feel sorry for a stupid animal that consistantly does something stupid... but even a COW learns to stay away from the electric fence after a few shocks.

The american people, however, keep rubbing up against the democrats, which have done nothing positive since the US Military fought the Axis powers in World War 2. (and even then the democrats were siding with the new enemy, Stalin and his communist regime)

774 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:36:16am

re: #741 {Miss Trixie} I'm doing ok and mom is just fine, too, thanks for asking. Uh, what happened to my *smooch*? Huh.
Has Dustoff succeeded where I've failed?!
;')

775 jcm  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:36:23am

Morning all.

Here is a question for Lizards to ponder.

Boy's death ends battle

Because of his religion, leukemia patient Dennis Lindberg, 14, didn't want vital transfusions; his biological parents did. A judge sided with the son, who died last night.

The boy and his legal guardians reject treatment. The biological parents disagreed with the decision. The judge agreed with the legal guardians and the boy.

776 LanceKates  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:36:43am

re: #766 Owl

I remember that first superbowl after 9/11, that was a very legit fear.

777 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:36:57am
Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Endorses Clinton

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

778 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:37:21am
779 Carl in Jerusalem  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:37:32am

re: #691 Ben Hur

And someone needs to remind Condi that MLK was a Zionist.

Condi needs to be reminded of a bunch of other things on that score. For example, Rosa Parks wasn't a suicide bomber.

780 LanceKates  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:38:03am

re: #768 csdeven

so who do you plan to vote for?

781 Dustoff-507  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:38:06am

re: #774 realwest

re: #741 {Miss Trixie} I'm doing ok and mom is just fine, too, thanks for asking. Uh, what happened to my *smooch*? Huh.
Has Dustoff succeeded where I've failed?!
;')


"WHAT"... dude I don't kiss guys! LOL

782 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:39:08am

re: #751 The Pulchritudinous Patriot Hey good morning to you - I've been wondering where you've been!
How come you get the blues at this time of year?

783 jcm  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:39:27am

re: #779 Carl in Jerusalem

re: #691 Ben Hur

And someone needs to remind Condi that MLK was a Zionist.

Condi needs to be reminded of a bunch of other things on that score. For example, Rosa Parks wasn't a suicide bomber.

Take away message of Annapolis.

TERROR WORKS!

784 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:39:27am

re: #771 Widow'smight

re: #737 newsjunkie_ky

I'm very well thank you. It's a little cool up here in Pennsyltucky, and it would be nice to see the sun come out tomorrow, bet your bottom dollar that ...

My sister and family were in over Thanksgiving from Cincinnati. Had a wonderful time.

Are you still as lovely as ever?


Why, of course I am.

785 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:39:32am

re: #761 BabbaZee

re: #751 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

For your blues

Thank you! I love Nina Simone.

786 Carl in Jerusalem  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:39:52am

re: #696 lawhawk

re: #664 Carl in Jerusalem

Forget that - Hamas wants a do-over - all the way back to demanding the UN rescind the 1947 Partition plan.

Nice.

I saw that. It's funny because Fatah just decided they accept it. But of course, Israel can't be a Jewish state until we give them all the territory we hold as a result of the 1948 and 1967 wars that the Arab countries started.

787 LanceKates  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:39:56am

caller on Glenn beck's show just mentioned LGF.

788 LanceKates  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:40:17am

someone named stephen.

789 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:40:38am

re: #745 realwest

I'm doing ok, a little sore where the mesh is, and the stitches are really itchy today, but getting better by the day. Quick break between reading and math this morning. How's the leg?

Oldest boy did his work pretty quickly this morning.

I remember how boring I found reading, but at least this series we're using has some interesting stuff in it -- lots of segues into science I can exploit -- all the stories right now are dealing with the rule "for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction."

790 aussiemagpie  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:40:45am

re: #698 Ward Cleaver

Well, just wanted let everyone know that June had breast reconstruction surgery yesterday, and she's doing fine. It was a nine-hour procedure (DIEP flap), so it took alot out of her (it starts with a tummy tuck, then they use recovered skin and fat to construct new breasts).

Please send prayers for a successful recovery. She's going to be pretty sore for the next few weeks. She gets out of the hospital on Sunday, and her mom is here to help out with the kids.


Hi there!

Best wishes for June - and I hope all goes well now for her!

791 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:41:32am
792 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:41:39am

re: #777 storagemanager

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Endorses Clinton

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]


shocka!
/

793 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:42:09am

re: #785 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Ahh the musical Jewdar is working then, good.

;~}

794 jcm  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:42:23am

re: #781 Dustoff-507

re: #774 realwest

re: #741 {Miss Trixie} I'm doing ok and mom is just fine, too, thanks for asking. Uh, what happened to my *smooch*? Huh.
Has Dustoff succeeded where I've failed?!
;')


"WHAT"... dude I don't kiss guys! LOL

Better practice up, come the caliphate, it will be required. :-P

795 Carl in Jerusalem  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:42:24am

re: #715 wahabicorridor

re: #669 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

It's a monograph published by CAMERA.org - I forget the title. Inshallah, I'll let you know tomorrow.


There are only 2 monographs on their website - one about NPR and this
Arab Building in Jerusalem 1967-1997

Since reunification of the city in 1967 Jerusalem's Arab population, far from dwindling, has increased faster than its Jewish population, with 163.4% growth by the Arabs and just 113.6% growth by the Jews. It follows that rather than being "Judaized," Jerusalem is actually less Jewish today than it was in 1967. Indeed, the Arab population of Jerusalem and its environs has increased more rapidly over the past 30 years under Israeli rule than during any other period in the 20th century.

If that's Justus Weiner's monograph, it's well worth reading.

796 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:42:29am

re: #757 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #732 BabbaZee

I love Yul Brynner


I think he was sexy, but then again I have a thing for bald men.

This one is cute too:[Link: stng.36el.com...]

So there is still hope for us in the "thicker in the middle, thinner on the top" stage of our lives ..

797 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:42:59am

re: #782 realwest

re: #751 The Pulchritudinous Patriot Hey good morning to you - I've been wondering where you've been!
How come you get the blues at this time of year?

Not sure, but I do have Major Depressive Disorder. Had a huge breakdown 12/3/03. (The best thing that ever happened to me) I just sort of go with it and keep taking the Prozac.

798 hayseed  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:43:42am

re: #775 jcm

we don't let our kids drive cars and have loaded guns,but a judge will let one make a life or death decision?

799 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:44:09am

re: #787 LanceKates

caller on Glenn beck's show just mentioned LGF.

What did they say?

800 LanceKates  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:44:23am

re: #797 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

you're never alone. We're here for you.

801 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:44:23am

re: #796 lucius septimius

re: #757 The Pulchritudinous Patriot


re: #732 BabbaZee

I love Yul Brynner

I think he was sexy, but then again I have a thing for bald men.

This one is cute too:[Link: stng.36el.com...]


So there is still hope for us in the "thicker in the middle, thinner on the top" stage of our lives ..

Indeed.

802 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:44:51am

re: #800 LanceKates

re: #797 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

you're never alone. We're here for you.

Ya'll are so sweet!

803 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:45:01am

re: #764 mjazzguitar Yeah, poor Leon Klinghoffer - how quickly the World forgets when Jews are murdered.

804 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:45:36am
805 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:45:46am

re: #794 jcm

re: #781 Dustoff-507


re: #774 realwest

re: #741 {Miss Trixie} I'm doing ok and mom is just fine, too, thanks for asking. Uh, what happened to my *smooch*? Huh.
Has Dustoff succeeded where I've failed?!
;')

"WHAT"... dude I don't kiss guys! LOL

Better practice up, come the caliphate, it will be required. :-P


Looks like love.

806 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:46:18am

Babba is on a roll this morning!

807 The Pulchritudinous Patriot  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:46:37am

BBL, have to work.

808 LanceKates  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:46:52am

re: #799 newsjunkie_ky

I had to talk, so I couldn't listen, just caught the mention of 'little green footballs" and that he name was stephen.

809 Pro-Bush Canuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:47:15am

re: #793 BabbaZee

{BabbaZee}

How has He shown His Love to you today?

810 Carl in Jerusalem  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:47:21am

re: #788 LanceKates

someone named stephen.

Hope he's not someone Charles banned :-)

811 wahabicorridor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:47:31am

re: #795 Carl in Jerusalem

If that's Justus Weiner's monograph, it's well worth reading.

The author is Israel Kimhi, Municipal City Planner 1963-1986

812 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:47:39am
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Bush administration says China has agreed to eliminate improper trade subsidies it was using to the detriment of U.S. and other foreign firms.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

813 Dustoff-507  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:47:42am

re: #794 jcm


LOL, you just mean, you know that! 0-:

814 ec marm  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:47:45am

re: #768 csdeven

If so, then they will get here exactly what the groupies at HA get. Huge doses of reality concerning Fred.


Oh, boy. A n00b promising 'huge doses' of reality. Bring it.

815 Widow'smight  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:48:19am

re: #784 newsjunkie_ky

I guess that was a silly question. Are you folks still in a drought down there? We've certainly go our share of moisture the last two months.

816 LanceKates  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:48:49am

re: #810 Carl in Jerusalem

Heh. I know it wasn't me, as I don't even know what the person said, and as one can tell, my name is Lance, not stephen.

817 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:49:19am

re: #754 wahabicorridor

Ok, this is very cool...

The only surviving copy of an Imperial Roman road map went on public display in Austria's National Library on Monday

Rome is at the heart of the map, which sets it apart from medieval maps, where Jerusalem is placed at the centre of the world (plus %uFFFDa change...). Twelve roads radiate from the capital, including the Via Appia, which can be followed still.

Each road, marked on the map in red, is fairly straight, but notches are marked at regular intervals, said to show daily rest stops. Markings show how far can be travelled in a day. Hundreds of towns and rests are depicted with images of villas and other buildings: Along with Rome, the other most prominent cities are Constantinople and Antioch.

The Peutinger Table is really super cool. It was found stuffed into the cover of another book -- it had been cut into strips and used as padding. And it seems to follow the fifth-century original very closely. I've seen a good facsimile of it -- I think it might even be available in paper back, though I'd have to do some checking.

For those interested in the subject of the late Roman Empire, might I offer these books:

A.H.M. Jones, The Later Roman Empire 284-602

Thomas Burns, Barbarians within the Gates of Rome

The last is the most cogent, well-thought out explanation for the fall of the Roman Empire that I've ever read. Not the best prose stylist, but blows most of the older theories out of the water based on a careful reading of the evidence. Smart book.

818 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:50:05am

re: #777 storagemanager Good morning, hope you're doing well. I'm not surprised that a Kennedy came out for Clinton, but I want to know what "experience" she has that makes her fit to lead America, much less the Free World.
Funny how nobody - not even her fellow Dems has hit her on this lack of experience in governing.

819 mjazzguitar  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:50:10am

re: #669 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey The CAMERA book is "Bearing False Witness". David Horowitz's Freedom Center has one called "Jimmy Carter's War Against The Jews."

820 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:50:26am

re: #809 Pro-Bush Canuck

The question is how hasn't He?

821 jcm  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:51:15am

re: #798 hayseed

re: #775 jcm

we don't let our kids drive cars and have loaded guns,but a judge will let one make a life or death decision?

I'm all for religious freedom.
BUT
When is it a rational decision based on religious beliefs and irrational.

I know the atheists among us would say such a decision is always irrational. They might just have a point. I don't agree with the JW interpretation of scripture regarding the issue. So do I then support restricting the practice of their religion.

This is one where the two core values come into conflict. LIFE & LIBERTY.

822 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:51:18am

re: #779 Carl in Jerusalem

re: #691 Ben Hur


And someone needs to remind Condi that MLK was a Zionist.

Condi needs to be reminded of a bunch of other things on that score. For example, Rosa Parks wasn't a suicide bomber.


Great ones, JUST DAMN GREAT!

823 storagemanager  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:51:36am

Owl...why won't csdeven answer you?

824 razorbacker  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:51:53am

re: #734 realwest

Hmmm. Okay. But you know what? I'm going to the hardware store for some more stovepipe, and hook up my old Home Comfort wood-burning cook-stove again. Since I've already a Buckstove for wood heat, and plenty of trees for fuel, that'll cover heating and cooking.

Wild game for protein, and Lord knows I can farm garden if I have to (though I'd rather try to pleasure a wildcat in a phone booth with a handful of cockle-burrs). Water? Phil has a good spring on his property and will let me get drinking water.

Awright, hell, bring on the end of the world as we know it.On second thought, screw that. I like living in the 21st century. I don't want to spend all my time scraping out a subsistence lifestyle.

Back to the barricades.

825 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:52:44am

re: #781 Dustoff-507 That's neither what I've heard nor what I meant, damnit! LOL!

826 vxbush  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:53:20am

Morning again, everyone. Apparently the creeping crud at work got me. I'm hot, achy, and half my nose is running like crazy. And a massive regular headache.

Oh goody.

827 Peacekeeper  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:53:22am
828 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:53:23am

re: #815 Widow'smight

re: #784 newsjunkie_ky

I guess that was a silly question. Are you folks still in a drought down there? We've certainly go our share of moisture the last two months.


We've had some good rains. Not sure if we are still classified as drought area.
It is cold today. Yesterday was great.
I still feel bad for GA. Hopefully they'll get some soon.
Just heard from son-in-law. He is taking me to wallyworld at noon. Will miss the beginning of Rush. Can't wait to hear his take on last night's debacle.
You take care up there. Glad you had family for Thanksgiving.

829 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:54:20am

re: #789 lucius septimius Mesh? What mesh (do I really want to know?!)? Leg's ok as long as I stay off of it!

830 jcm  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:55:22am

re: #813 Dustoff-507

re: #794 jcm


LOL, you just mean, you know that! 0-:

Did I ruin your breakfast? That'll do it.
sorry

831 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:55:24am
832 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:55:30am

re: #790 aussiemagpie Hey there Lil 'Roo! How are you doing and how long is it gonna take for that new computer to get to ya?!

833 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:55:46am

re: #829 realwest

They put surgical mesh in one of the hernias I guess to hold things together. As it heals it pulls. Plus there is the wierdness of knowing that you have a foreign object sewn to your insides.

834 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:56:01am

re: #826 vxbush

Poor baby. Chicken soup will do you a world of good. That and nyquil are what get me through.

835 DEPORTMAN  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:56:13am

Forget about gays in the military. How about the revered status that the homosexuals have forced upon the State Department? It seems that the velvet mafia has been successful in foisting its way of life on the State Department. Any speaking out against the gays, and their policy agendas(political and social) will cause you to lose money(no promotions) and career. People should be able to live their lives as they wish, but not to force their lifestyle on others, because then it infringes upon everyone else's freedom.

836 yenta-fada  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:56:13am

This HAS to be shared. Nevada brothel pimping for Ron Paul. Two "bunnies" for the price of one if you donate to Ron.
[Link: www.chron.com...]

837 JammieWearingFool  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:56:29am

A driver is stuck in a traffic jam going into Downtown Chicago. Nothing is moving north or south. Suddenly a man knocks on his window.

The driver rolls down his window and asks, "What happened, what's the hold up?"

"Terrorists have kidnapped Hillary Clinton, Rosie O'Donnell, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton. They are asking for a $10 million ransom. Otherwise they are going to douse them with gasoline and set them on fire. So we are going from car to car, taking up a collection."

The driver asks, "On average, how much is everyone giving?"

"About a gallon."

838 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:56:35am

re: #827 Peacekeeper

[Link: www.youtube.com...]


For what?

839 rightwinger3  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:56:48am

re: #818 realwest

re: #777 storagemanager Good morning, hope you're doing well. I'm not surprised that a Kennedy came out for Clinton, but I want to know what "experience" she has that makes her fit to lead America, much less the Free World.
Funny how nobody - not even her fellow Dems has hit her on this lack of experience in governing.

rw, experience? The democrat party feels like she would do well.

840 wahabicorridor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:57:09am

re: #817 lucius septimius

re: #819 mjazzguitar


thank you both.

Now, I know we love to make fun of liberals around here, but there are a few honorable ones, Nick Cohen being right up there. One of the pseudo-snot-EUnich-self-style-intellectuals that makes my teeth itch is Timothy Garton Ash.

And Cohen demolishes him.

Garton Ash wrote in the New York Review of Books that journalists were more interested in her beauty than her ideas. 'If she had been short, squat, and squinting, her story and views might not be so closely attended to.' She was an 'Enlightenment fundamentalist', he continued, as bigoted in her way as the Muslim Brotherhood she opposed. On this reading, there is no moral difference between those who would subjugate women, kill Jews and homosexuals, place the dictates of a seventh-century holy book above the parliaments of free peoples... and those who wouldn't. Liberal intellectuals have no obligation to make a choice between religious fundamentalists and 'Enlightenment fundamentalists', and indeed could devote their energies to condemning the latter rather than the former.

Garton Ash met Hirsi Ali at an electric meeting in London on Wednesday. Unlike Buruma he had the good sense and good grace to think again and he gave her a public apology

I hope she graciously declined it. Ok, maybe not so graciously.

841 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:57:56am

re: #797 The Pulchritudinous Patriot Wow, I didn't know. Is it just worse this time of year or is it like this all the time (and have you spoken to your doc - they've made major upgrades to newer drugs than Prozac).

842 vxbush  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:58:40am

re: #834 newsjunkie_ky

You know, I don't think we have any chicken soup or chicken in the house. And I refuse to take any Nyquil product (long story).

Hot tea is good, though. And peanut butter seems to help.

843 Globular Cluster  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:59:02am

Dutch Lawmaker Planning Film Criticizing the Quran
[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

844 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 7:59:38am

re: #840 wahabicorridor

Garton Ash? They left out the "r" in his last name.

Hirsi Ali is a classy lady; I'm sure she accepted it, but gave him a look.

845 christheprofessor  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 8:00:11am

re: #835 DEPORTMAN

velvet mafia

Really organized crime?

846 Pro-Bush Canuck  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 8:00:23am

re: #820 BabbaZee

re: #809 Pro-Bush Canuck

The question is how hasn't He?

Awesome. Just awesome. Was listening to some Thelonious just last night.

847 vxbush  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 8:00:49am

Pul Patriot: Is it a seasonal affective disorder? I've noticed for myself I do better if I have one of those special sun lamps to sit under during the winters. Helps a lot.

848 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 8:00:56am
849 mjazzguitar  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 8:01:07am

re: #747 christheprofessor
Our parents brought us up right. But you wonder, how many kids are told it's ok if you get can get away with it? (They can afford it, they're rich anyway, etc. etc.)

850 lucius septimius  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 8:01:07am

re: #845 christheprofessor

re: #835 DEPORTMAN

velvet mafia

Really organized crime?

Sounds like a pr0n film.

851 Peacekeeper  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 8:01:09am

re: #838 newsjunkie_ky

re: #827 Peacekeeper


[Link:
852 BabbaZee  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 8:02:00am

re: #846 Pro-Bush Canuck

Infallible Musical Jewdar!

853 Widow'smight  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 8:03:07am

re: #828 newsjunkie_ky

Thanks, but what's wallyworld? Is that near Dollyland?

854 realwest  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 8:03:10am

re: #770 Carl in Jerusalem Um, sorry Carl but I forgot your lessons a little bit - who elects the Knesset ?

855 vxbush  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 8:03:26am

re: #851 Peacekeeper

Ah, bow to the great Glenn Miller! One of my favorites.

856 csdeven  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 8:03:30am

re: #736 Owl

csdeven...I forgot to say that some here say you are a great person, otherwise. I'm anxious to get to know this guy, and I hope he comes out here at LGF.

Nothing personal. I just call em like i see em.


btw - just so you know, my choice right now would be


Rush( not running)
Hunter( unknown to most of America)
Newt( not running)
Fred( barely running)
Huck( running pretty well right now)
Tanc( barely alive)
Mitt( better than Hillary)
Rudy( barely better than Hillary)
in that order.

I figure I'll have to explain this time and again, so I'll start now. My vitriol against Fred is the counter to the rabid head-up-the-butt reasons given by certain loons who are supporting Fred. The worst one is the claim that Fred never acted in his movies and TV shows. He was just being "Fred". Bwahahahaha! This would be funnier if they were joking, but they are dead serious. My opinion of Fred is my own and I am very unmovable on it. I think he is a fake who doesn't really want the job as much as his family and friends do. No Lizard should EVER mistake my disgust for Fred as a personal attack on them. That is another trait of the rabid Fredhead. They seem unable to separate themselves from Fred.
The issues of his clients and his use of campaign contributions are serious issues that will destroy him in a general election. This is the main reason I oppose him. He could never survive the Clinton smear machine. All politicians are fake to a point, but their histories is where the skeletons are. I want every candidate vetted to the point that there will be nothing left for Hillary to dig up.
Generally, I cannot stand people who single out specific members for insults and foul language. As far as I am concerned, as soon as someone stoops to the KOS level of debate, they are showing us that they have nothing left of substance to add.

My choices thus far are along the lines of the lesser of the evils and who can beat whichever dem is nominated. In that context, this is how I see it...

Of those who can beat the dems and have a chance of winning the nomination...
Rudy (for now the most electable)
Mitt (Leaning towards Mitt)
McCain (Toughest on Terror)
Huck (most affable BUT his immigration policies...YUCK!)
Of those who are the most conservative but cannot win the nomination...
Hunter (no money and unknown, but he would be my first choice. I think this run is a prelude to 2012 if a dem is elected in 08, or 2016 if a rep is elected in 08)
Tanc (too one dimensional. I think he's vying for a cabinet slot)
Completely unacceptable and I would have to do some serious nose holding to vote for them...
Fred (lobbied for unsavory people and gave legal advice to terrorists)
Ron Paul (great on domestic policy, but bat$hit crazy on foreign policy. Can't take a chance with the GWOT in full engagement)

857 David Simon  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 8:03:31am

re: #786 Carl in Jerusalem

Feigele Livni

lol, I love it.

In the course of recent negotiations, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni asked the head of the Palestinian Authority's negotiating team, Ahmed Qureia (Abu Ala), to accept Israel as a Jewish state, reminding him that it was accepted as such by UN Resolution 181 on November 29, 1947, for the partition of the Land of Israel.

According to Ahmed Tibi, a member of Israel's Knesset who used to be an aide to PLO founder Yasser Arafat, Abu Ala answered: "let us implement [Resolution] 181 first and we shall talk."

Wow is a natural response, but if you think about it, why wouldn't Quereia think that he is dealing from a position of strength? Entering into premature negotiation will always be read as a sign of weakness.

858 newsjunkie_ky  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 8:03:50am

re: #842 vxbush
Peanut butter?
I keep Lipton's noodle soup in the pantry at all times. I used to make my own, but haven't done it in years. Need to start again.
Hope you start feeling better soon. Get as much rest as you can. That is why I take nyquil. Only thing guranteed to make me sleep. I only get up to take the Dog out and feed her and get some soup and back to sleep.

859 Dustoff-507  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 8:04:17am

re: #830 jcm


Think I'll go home. ( fixed you) LOL

860 lawhawk  Thu, Nov 29, 2007 8:04:33am

re: #804 BabbaZee

Neither can I.