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Fri, Nov 30, 2007 at 10:34:10 am PST

The Daily Mail has more on the appalling demonstrations from Religion of Peace™ members in Sudan, who poured out of mosques after Friday prayers screaming for the death of teddy bear teacher Gillian Gibbons and brandishing swords and knives: Teddy bear teacher moved to secret location as thousands of Islamic fanatics demand her execution.

As the mother-of-two started a 15-day prison term, protestors had earlier left mosques across the Sudanese capital to denounce the “lenient verdict” and call for the death penalty.

The mob descended on Matyrs Square, which is in front of the presidential palace, many arriving in pick-up trucks with loudspeakers blaring messages condemning Miss Gibbons. Hundreds of riot police had been deployed but they made no attempt to disrupt the rally.

“Shame, shame on the U.K.,” protesters chanted,“ as they called for Miss Gibbons’ execution, saying, ”No tolerance: Execution,“ and ”Kill her, kill her by firing squad.“

Others shouted: ”Those who insult the Prophet of Islam should be punished with bullets."

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1 coquimbojoe  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:35:14am

ROPMA

2 rawmuse  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:35:53am

No good deed goes unpunished. Just like with the nurses in Libya.

3 storagemanager  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:35:54am

What the hell is wrong with England...demand her release.

4 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:36:38am

I'm sure the UN and International Red Cross will DEMAND the location, just as they demanded the US tell where we took our enemies captured in battle (and no, i'm not holding my breath waiting. )

5 tfc3rid  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:36:45am

Hopefully, the place is England...

6 coquimbojoe  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:36:45am

Others shouted: ”Those who insult the Prophet of Islam should be punished with bullets."

But, I thought that anyting that deviated from the prophets time was haram.

7 thanos  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:36:47am

Secret like a Janjaweed camp, or secret like the NYT knows where she's at and will publish it tomorrow?

8 daughter of patriots  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:36:54am

Evil is as evil does.

9 uriaheep  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:37:03am

Now that's a knife.
CrocDundee

10 storagemanager  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:37:03am

Shock!...

US withdraws UN resolution endorsing Annapolis agreement
Move comes less than 24 hours after US envoy to UN introduced it; diplomatic sources say Israel opposes the resolution.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

11 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:37:14am

The Islamic world has no shortage of lunatics.

12 DaMishMan  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:37:41am

If there are any leaders left in Great Briton with any balls, they'll do what it takes to get that woman out of there...and what's more, get any Briton left in that country the hell out of there!

13 thanos  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:37:49am

OT:

Sorry for the OT< but I'm at work, just heard a blip that there's a hostage situation at Hillary Clinton's New Hampshire campaign HQ? (she's not there.)

14 Wino  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:38:09am

I blame all of this on King Richard. He should've gotten it right during the crusades.

15 gmsc  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:38:22am

How about we call it the "Religion Insuring Peace"? That way, we can call it the R.I.P. for short, which sums it all up quite neatly.

16 Ben Hur  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:38:45am

RoP and Roll.

17 GreenSoccer  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:39:09am

KGO 810 am San Francisco is having a program on this and typical moonbat stuff:
we need more dialog
they don't like us
because they don't like us they don't like the things we do...


yes we are making it more difficult for them to commit genocide - my bad

18 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:39:10am

"The mob descended on Matyrs Square, which is in front of the presidential palace,"

hmmm,,, one strategically launched missle will make that squares name REALLY mean something !

19 kreigwagon  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:39:23am

I am not a hunter, nor have I tried bear meat, but I have been told by those who have tried it, bear is similar to pork. Is it possible they were offended due to the fact that bear meat taste like pork?

20 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:39:29am

She now wearing a disguise.

21 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:39:37am
22 storagemanager  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:40:01am

re: #13 thanos

BOSTON -- Police are responding to a hostage situation at a Hillary Clinton presidential campaign office in New Hampshire.

The incident happened at about 1 p.m. Friday at 28 North Main St. in Rochester, police said. A man is holding people hostage at the office, but it is unclear how many people were being held.

Clinton, who is not in New Hampshire, is attending a National Democratic Committee meeting in Virginia

[Link: www.thebostonchannel.com...]

23 howco  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:40:14am

Once again I ask why are we even engaging with these animals? I'm sure this woman had the best intentions going over there to help and all that, but she should have known better. I would not even think of going anywhere in the middle east unless I was carrying a gun. With a group of other guys who also have guns. The only thing that is of any use is our military.

24 Ben Hur  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:41:10am

They'll still prefer that culture over western, liberal Israel.

25 mean Gene  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:41:41am

Gee, I can't imagine why!
Look at the size of that crowd!
(Good thing its a ''religion of peace," LOL)

26 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:41:44am
27 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:41:45am

The BBC was underplaying the seriousness of the situation in their report - burying the part about the demonstrators seeking Gibbons' death, and instead claimed that the protestors simply wanted a harsher punishment.

From the BBC front page:

Sudan demo over jailed UK teacher

Crowds march in Sudan to call for a tougher sentence for a UK teacher convicted of insulting religion.

That's right - all they want is a tougher sentence.

Just ignore the lynch mob approaching. They're only seeking a tougher sentence.

28 Burkha, Flies and a Shiekh  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:42:05am

re: #13 thanos

OT:

Sorry for the OT< but I'm at work, just heard a blip that there's a hostage situation at Hillary Clinton's New Hampshire campaign HQ? (she's not there.)

I believe the update said it was a bomb threat, not a hostage situation. Wow, what could they have done that would make someone angry enought to plant a bomb?

/liberal "thinking" off

29 coquimbojoe  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:42:35am
30 brent  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:42:55am

The real pity in all of this is that somewhere a refugee camp is not being pillaged, women and children are not being raped and murdered.

Why can't these people just put aside their anger at this teacher and get back to what is really important, the genocide?

31 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:42:59am

re: #11 Ringo the Gringo

The Islamic world has no shortage of lunatics.

The world has no shortage of lunatics. Odd how many of them are Muslim.

32 bunker buster  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:43:17am

Coming soon to an American city near you...

33 coquimbojoe  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:43:22am

re: #26 buzzsawmonkey

Brought over from the last teddy bear thread:

Teddy Bear Seething
--to the tune of "The Teddy Bears' Picnic

If you go to the Sudan today
You're sure of a big surprise.
If you go to the Sudan today
You'd better go in disguise.
For angry Muslims from everywhere
Will gather there for certain, because
Today's the day chosen for Teddy Bear Seething.

Chorus:
Seething over teddy bears,
The Janjaweed are having a lovely time today.
Watch them, catch them unawares,
And see them riot on their holiday.
See them gaily dance about.
They love to play and shout.
And never have any cares.
At six o'clock their mommies and daddies
Will take them home to bed
After they've rioted over teddy bears.

If you go to the Sudan today,
You'd better not go alone.
It's lovely in the Sudan, they say,
But safer to stay at home.
For angry Muslims from everywhere
Will gather there for certain, because
Today's the day chosen for Teddy Bear Seething.

Chorus

Every rioter that has been good
Is hoping that there will be
A chance for some mob justice to
Inflict a death penalty
Before the camera, as the world sees
They'll shout and stomp as long as they please
Today's the day that's chosen for Teddy Bear Seething.

Chorus

Now,how do we get Jerry Garcia to sing that?

34 opinionated  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:43:36am

You see Islamic fanatics. I see the Selma civil rights march.

I am Condoleza Rice.

35 Pass The Moonbaticide  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:43:37am

This is all over the news here in the UK.

At last. Now the true face of the Religion of Peace is exposed.
Maybe now the common people can see what has been so clear to us on LGF for years.

36 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:44:02am

re: #22 storagemanager

. A man is holding people hostage at the office, but it is unclear how many people were being held.

A couple of questions come to mind

1) how many in the office are female
2) anyone know the whereabouts of Bill ?

37 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:44:04am
38 Austin Conservative  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:44:07am

Fricking savages. Don't they know that by calling the stuffed animal mohammad, the child insulted Teddy Bears around the world.

Britain (I cannot call it great anymore) should expell every Mohammed, Muhammed, Muhammad, Muhamed, Mohammad and any other variation of the spelling of lying murdering, pedophile rapist (may pig piss be upon him).

The US could itself a favor and expell them too along with banning all muslim immigration.

39 Ben Hur  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:44:08am

Amsterdam officials commissioning study to determine why Moroccans target city's gays

This month, Mayor Job Cohen commissioned the University of Amsterdam to conduct a study on the motives behind the hate crimes. Half of the crimes were committed by men of Moroccan origin and researchers believe they felt stigmatized by society and responded by attacking people they felt were lower on the social ladder. Another working theory is that the attackers may be struggling with their own sexual identity.

40 Keli  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:44:13am

"...who poured out of mosques after Friday prayers screaming for the death..."

When me and my family leave our place of worship, we usually just go to the Olive Garden

41 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:44:20am

re: #29 coquimbojoe

Republicans more sane?

Proof that liberalism indeed is a mental disorder.

42 DeafDog  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:44:27am

I was originally outraged by this story, but today's protests are just so surreal, that I just can't believe it. Human beings would not call for the execution of another human being for mis-naming a stuffed animal.

My conclusion...the protesters are LGF plants.

43 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:45:38am

I am not a violent person by nature, but there is no way anyone in the world can convince me that dropping a cluster-bomb on this crowd would be anything other than a positive step forward for human kind. Does that make me intolerant? If so, I can live with it.

44 wong fei hung  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:45:45am

Hey - anybody know if N.O.W. has had anything substantial to say about this one?

...crickets...

45 zmdavid  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:45:46am

re: #29 coquimbojoe

Republicans more sane?


Democrats are aware of their own insanity.

46 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:45:52am

re: #37 Killgore Trout

Police are responding to a hostage situation at a Hillary Clinton presidential campaign office in New Hampshire.
No details or motive yet.


I heard it's the truth being held hostage.

47 coquimbojoe  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:45:59am

re: #39 Ben Hur

Amsterdam officials commissioning study to determine why Moroccans target city's gays


This month, Mayor Job Cohen commissioned the University of Amsterdam to conduct a study on the motives behind the hate crimes. Half of the crimes were committed by men of Moroccan origin and researchers believe they felt stigmatized by society and responded by attacking people they felt were lower on the social ladder. Another working theory is that the attackers may be struggling with their own sexual identity.

I'm spitballin' here, but maybe because they belong to a religion intorant of anything.

48 gmsc  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:46:23am

Don't forget to get to do your Christmas shopping early!

49 Ben Hur  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:46:25am

Teddy Bears out of Palestine!

50 sattv4u2  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:46:38am

re: #40 Keli

"...who poured out of mosques after Friday prayers screaming for the death..."

When me and my family leave our place of worship, we usually just go to the Olive Garden

You go there because they have those really really sharp bread knives, huh !

51 njdhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:46:43am

I hope nobody gets hurt at the Hillary HQ. Too many nuts out there.

here's an OT:

Amtrak, Freight Trains Collide in Ill.

52 rappmandu  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:46:44am

Play with a teddy bear=capital offense
Capital offense=warm, cuddly play

Typical barbaric mentality.

53 Waarthog  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:46:47am

You know, if these people would actually WORK for something, their country might not be quite so poverty stricken.

54 storagemanager  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:46:48am
Mohammed + Teddy Bear = Riot

Mohammed + Atta = No Riots


Have I got that right

[Link: jihadwatch.org...]

55 xtraBilly  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:46:49am

re: #46 JammieWearingFool

re: #37 Killgore Trout


Police are responding to a hostage situation at a Hillary Clinton presidential campaign office in New Hampshire.
No details or motive yet.

I heard it's the truth being held hostage.

rim shot?

56 JamesTKirk  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:46:50am

Others shouted: ”Those who insult the Prophet of Islam should be punished with bullets."

Who, Mohammed? That flaming pedophile? Is that the lunatic you're talking about?

57 coquimbojoe  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:47:40am

re: #47 coquimbojoe


Umm, intolerant. There I fixed it...

58 jcm  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:47:56am

Bears in descending order of danger to humans.
10 - Panda Bear
9 - Sloth Bear
8- Sun Bear
7 - Spectacled Bear
6 - Asiatic Black Bear
5 - Brown Bear
4 - N. American Black Bear
3 - Polar Bear
2 - Grizzly Bear
1 - Fatwa Bear

59 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:48:04am
60 storagemanager  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:48:38am
BREAKING NEWS: Man claiming to have bomb at Clinton campaign office in N.H., WHDH TV reports

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

61 gymnast  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:48:44am

Sudan, the post-modern Heart of Darkness.

62 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:48:46am

Sorry if it's already been posted: BDS art exhibit at NY library

Library exhibit features 'mug shots' of President Bush, White House officials

The exhibit, "Line Up," is the work of artists Nora Ligorano and Marshall Reese. Each Bush administration member clutches a clapboard, as in a standard mug shot, with the date of his "arrest" - a day when each made "incriminating" statements regarding the Iraq war.

The installation includes audio clips of the administration members - complete with the sound of a flashbulb popping and a prison door slamming.

Jim Strifler, 54, of Sayville, L.I., was stunned to see the pictures as he walked with his brother along the third floor.

"We were like, 'What is this?'" Strifler said yesterday. "It's a library. Maybe this would be okay for a museum, but this is supposed to be neutral ground."

It's publicly funded ground, too, although the city's library system is financed by a unique arrangement involving government and private funding.

The Lefty "news" site RawStory can't understand why anyone would be offended and is especially puzzled by the idea that someone might not want their children to see the pictures.

63 Ben Hur  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:49:01am
64 Darth Bubba  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:49:17am

It looks like the fuzzie-wuzzies need a good thrashing again. Send Kitchener back to Omdurman! Tally ho!

65 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:49:40am

re: #39 Ben Hur

Amsterdam officials commissioning study to determine why Moroccans target city's gays

This month, Mayor Job Cohen commissioned the University of Amsterdam to conduct a study on the motives behind the hate crimes. Half of the crimes were committed by men of Moroccan origin and researchers believe they felt stigmatized by society and responded by attacking people they felt were lower on the social ladder. Another working theory is that the attackers may be struggling with their own sexual identity.

So one of the proposed theories for why this is happening is that the attackers may themselves be gay, but have some issue dealing with it. As soon as they figure that one out, if they ever do, I suspect they will be burning down the University.

66 Peacekeeper  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:49:44am

Put down that sword before you put your eye out.

67 kreigwagon  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:50:10am

re: #44 wong fei hung

Hey - anybody know if N.O.W. has had anything substantial to say about this one?

...crickets...

And where is Hillary? where is Katie Couric? where are Boxer and Feinstein?


/chirp, chirp...

68 dentate  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:50:10am

Others shouted: ”Those who insult consult the Prophet of Islam should be punished with bullets vanquished by pullets."

69 rappmandu  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:50:19am

re: #37 Killgore Trout

Non-gay, non-general, non-plant?

/Hope no one gets hurt.

70 gymnast  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:50:28am

re: #60 storagemanager

BREAKING NEWS: Man claiming to have bomb at Clinton campaign office in N.H., WHDH TV reports

[Link: www.msnbc.msn.com...]

Are they certain the guy with the bomb isn't a Hillary plant.

71 thanos  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:50:29am

OT:

One more OT PSA before I get out of here... REMINDER: If you are sending things to Service people overseas for the holidays get them shipped or mailed early next week at the latest.

72 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:50:30am

Pope silent about Islam, attacks atheists...
Pope attacks 'cruel and unjust' atheism in his message of hope


The Pope launched an attack on atheism today, saying that it had led to some of the “greatest forms of cruelty and violations of justice” known to mankind.

In his second encyclical, Spe Salvi (Saved By Hope) Pope Benedict said that atheism purported to be “a type of moralism, a protest against the injustices of the world and of world history”. Atheists argued that “a world marked by so much injustice, innocent suffering and cynicism of power cannot be the work of a good God”.
...
The Pope said that faith in progress through science was also illusory. While there had been great scientific advances for mankind offering “new possibilites for good”, science also “opens up appalling possibilities for evil, possibilities that did not formerly exist. We have all witnessed the way in which progress, in the wrong hands, can become and has indeed has become a terrifying progress in evil.”


What a dick.

73 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:51:19am
74 xtraBilly  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:51:23am
75 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:51:27am

There are more than enough nuts to go around. Someone claiming to have a bomb in the Clinton campaign office in NH is bad news. Hopefully that situation will resolve itself peacefully.

76 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:51:42am

Must be an angry white male at the Clinton headquarters.

77 dahozho  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:52:07am

A 'religion' that has no value of compassion is not sustainable. The deluded followers will tear themselves apart. Sadly, that may not be until they tear the rest of us apart first.

78 Cygnus  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:52:12am

re: #21 song_and_dance_man

Behold the face butt of Islam

Oh; same thing. Never mind.

79 Tailfeather  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:52:17am

One would think that these people have finally hit bottom but I bet they go on digging.

80 mingjaiyo  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:52:33am

These people are doing a fine job demonstrating their absolute lunacy to us in the western world.I'm sure that this episode will not win any hearts and minds from any in the west toward the jihadis. I am ashamed of the response of the Brit's;particularly PM Brown.As a person of Scot heritage I would hope for a extremely strong response-something along the line of "You have 12 hours to release Miss Gibbons into British custody or your major cities will be reduced to rubble". I hope that upon her return to the UK she lets loose with both barrels on not only the islamist thugs that have orchestrated this fiasco,but on her completely spineless governments response to her predicament as well.Pictures such as this one Charles has posted should be plastered all over MSM media.I think that the only reason that it will make the MSM at all is because of her being an ordinary everyday schoolteacher and the incredible ridiculousness of the whole situation.The kids named the bear,not her.Why aren't all the kids up for floggings? It's all one big BS play by the islamists to once again show that we have no spine when it comes to standing up to these loons.We in the west are generally slow to war,especially we Americans.But the day will come when the islamists will cross the line and payback will be ruthless.

81 Peacekeeper  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:52:34am

re: #72 Killgore Trout
No, he's right. Marxists murdered tens of millions in the name of a new social order.

82 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:52:40am

re: #76 JammieWearingFool

It's probably a jilted boyfriend of a staffer. I hope it's not political.

83 Ben Hur  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:52:53am
"The sentence is a mockery of justice and we consider Gillian to be a prisoner of conscience," Mike Blakemore, of Amnesty International, added.

But, they're still not as bad as Jooos/Zionists/Israelis...

84 cagney  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:53:11am

re: #35 Pass The Moonbaticide

This has opened a lot of peoples eyes over here on how impotent our government is. I'm not sure how much it will move public opinion towards the ant-jihadi cause but I think this is going to stick in peoples minds for a long time and it will be harder for the radicals to milk folks sympathy.

85 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:53:26am
86 SevoGuy  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:53:46am

Others shouted: ”Those who insult the Prophet of Islam should be punished with bullets."

And Others Shouted: "Those stupid enough to call Muhammad a prophet should be punished with hell." And they will be.

These morons are SATANS ARMY.

My Great Dane's name is muhammad. He's a great dog. Eats pork, obeys his master and knows that he is a dog.

Mr. President...It's high time that my tax money be withdrawn from these types of Satanic worshipping countries.

87 tommygum  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:53:59am

re: #43 Lizard by the Bay

Mich auch.

88 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:54:09am

re: #59 JammieWearingFool

Forget Tupperware: Women Flocking to Taser Parties!

Don't tase me, 'ho!

Dammit Jammie. Now I have to clean up my monitor.

Again.

Note to self: Do not eat or drink while reading LGF.

89 storagemanager  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:54:12am

re: #75 lawhawk

There are more than enough nuts to go around. Someone claiming to have a bomb in the Clinton campaign office in NH is bad news. Hopefully that situation will resolve itself peacefully.

Foxnews t.v. said man is armed to the teeth.

90 FrogMarch  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:54:49am

this poor teacher will be lucky if she escapes this Islamic hell hole with her life.

91 Ben Hur  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:54:56am
The Archbishop of Canterbury has led mounting criticism of Sudan following her conviction for insulting Islam.

Rowan Williams launched a stinging attack on the decision, branding it "self-destructive absurdity".

He said: "I can't see any justification for this at all. I think this is an absurdly disproportionate response to what is at worst a cultural faux pas.

Death penalty: Fanatics have called for British teacher Gillian Gibbons to be shot
"I think that it has done the Sudanese government no credit whatever to allow this prosecution to proceed.

"What I see in this situation is a sort of primitivist and crude application of the law in a spirit of real insensitivity and self-destructive absurdity."

Of course this doesn't apply to Hamas/Fatah et al liquidating Joos/Zionists/Israelis...

Acutally, it sounds alot like what the fool says about western Liberal Israel...

92 LosHwy[deleted]  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:55:41am
93 Peacekeeper  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:55:42am

The Pope said that faith in progress through science was also illusory.

Completely true: cars=progress, dynamite=progress
cars filled with dynamite makes us all less safe. The technology changed, humans didn't.
Can technology let me live forever? I hope so!
Can technolgy let Dictators live forever? Uh-oh.

94 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:55:56am

re: #72 Killgore Trout

I tend to agree with the Pope. Science is morally neutral, it can be used for good or evil. He didn't say "progress through science was also illusory", he said "faith in progress through science was also illusory".

95 njdhockeyfan  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:55:58am
96 Ben Hur  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:56:33am

re: #84 cagney

re: #35 Pass The Moonbaticide

This has opened a lot of peoples eyes over here on how impotent our government is. I'm not sure how much it will move public opinion towards the ant-jihadi cause but I think this is going to stick in peoples minds for a long time and it will be harder for the radicals to milk folks sympathy.

I'm sorry, but I think the majority of the Brit establishment/MSM and probably the people don't see the hypocrisy of their outrage vis-a-vis their demonization of Israel.

Yes. I will keep making this point over and over.

If she had gone to teach in Israel, they would've thought that she was nuts.

97 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:57:08am

re: #68 dentate

Others shouted: ”Those who insult consult the Prophet of Islam should be punished with bullets vanquished by pullets styled with mullets."

If they did that, I might understand their seething.

98 joshlawless  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:57:16am

Ahh, the Relgion of [hacking people into misshapen] p[ie]ce[s]

99 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:57:18am

re: #81 Peacekeeper

I'm not defending Marxists. I have no relation to them. However the Catholic church has committed it's own atrocities in the past which were just as cruel and unjust and I don't hold modern Catholicism responsible for them. I would accept the criticism in better faith if he'd speak as harshly about Islam. We won't because he's a wimp. He's only going to attack people who respect free speech. He fears Islam and modern civilization equally.

100 NY Nana  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:57:57am

re: #70 gymnast

Are they certain the guy with the bomb isn't a Hillary plant.

Good point, especially in an L6 state like N.H.

101 Spiny Norman  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:57:58am

re: #65 CyanSnowHawk

re: #39 Ben Hur
Amsterdam officials commissioning study to determine why Moroccans target city's gays
This month, Mayor Job Cohen commissioned the University of Amsterdam to conduct a study on the motives behind the hate crimes. Half of the crimes were committed by men of Moroccan origin and researchers believe they felt stigmatized by society and responded by attacking people they felt were lower on the social ladder. Another working theory is that the attackers may be struggling with their own sexual identity.
So one of the proposed theories for why this is happening is that the attackers may themselves be gay, but have some issue dealing with it. As soon as they figure that one out, if they ever do, I suspect they will be burning down the University.

Those Moroccans must be right-wing fundamentalist Christians - almost certainly provoked by "US televangelists".
.
.

See how easy that was?

102 Sakublock  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:58:18am

and the French wonder why their cars are burning...

103 dentate  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:58:43am

re: #97 CyanSnowHawk

re: #68 dentate

Others shouted: ”Those who insult consult the Prophet of Islam should be punished with bullets vanquished by pullets styled with mullets."

If they did that, I might understand their seething.

I dare you, I just DARE you, to come up with a photoshop to illustrate that concept. ;-)

104 pyjoe  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:58:49am

Makes me want to go out and buy a pot bellied pig as a pet, just to name it mohammed.

105 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:58:56am
106 JammieWearingFool  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:59:03am

re: #82 Killgore Trout

re: #76 JammieWearingFool

It's probably a jilted boyfriend of a staffer. I hope it's not political.

I doubt it's political. Just probably some deranged individual.

107 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:59:36am

I see that the conservatives in Sudan are at it again.

/good morning america

108 jcm  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:59:44am

re: #88 CyanSnowHawk

re: #59 JammieWearingFool

Forget Tupperware: Women Flocking to Taser Parties!

Don't tase me, 'ho!

Dammit Jammie. Now I have to clean up my monitor.

Again.

Note to self: Do not eat or drink while reading LGF.

LGF pros use three keyboards, one in use, one being cleaned, and one drying. For the monitor peel off plastic protectors.

109 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:59:47am

re: #13 thanos

LOL. Sorry, but there really is something laughable about that statement, but at the moment it is escaping me.

110 Opinionated  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 10:59:49am

Just for the fun of it, I wish someone would toss into the crowd one of those blasphemous soccer balls.

111 Silhouette  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:00:11am

The key phrase is

The protesters streamed out of mosques after Friday sermons...

Clear cause-and-effect evidence for even the most reluctant that it is the teaching of the religion that encourages and increases the violence.

When attending a religious service whips the masses into a bloodthirsty frenzy, when this happens time and again is various places, it is reasonable to suspect the religion isn't teaching love, peace, and understanding.

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113 storagemanager  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:00:16am

My dog is snoring...quit Mohammad...I can't hear the t.v.

115 Dotcoman  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:01:06am

re: #37 Killgore Trout

Geesh, who's wife did Bill rape now?

116 kreigwagon  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:01:09am

re: #53 Waarthog

You know, if these people would actually WORK for something, their country might not be quite so poverty stricken.

But that would require them to have an education and then realizing that their version/perception of religion was a lie. The leaders of these countries need to control the masses. Religion is the best control due to the fact that if the masses believe that there is much better life after this one, they're more apt to accept a shitty existence and accept total submission. Even better, look at North Korea. Kim Il-sung managed to convince the North Koreans he was a god and they're total purpose/existence was to live in poverty to serve him.

117 loppyd  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:01:15am

re: #46 JammieWearingFool

re: #37 Killgore Trout

Police are responding to a hostage situation at a Hillary Clinton presidential campaign office in New Hampshire.
No details or motive yet.


I heard it's the truth being held hostage.

Live feed - the guy has a bomb strapped to his body.

118 storagemanager  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:01:34am

The man at Clintons office has a bomb duct taped to his chest.

119 so.cal.swede  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:01:54am

here's the deal, if Islam didn't exist, these chaps would be calling for people's heads anyway -- I think Islam just happens to appeal to the type of person who enjoys headchoppin'.

Of course, the problem is that Islam is a legitimized religion in the west, and the headchoppers now have to be viewed as "a deeply spiritual person" as opposed to "a headchoppin' crackerjack".


scs, out.

120 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:02:23am

re: #103 dentate

I'd give it a try if I were at home, even though my shop-fu is weak, so far my best attempt was this.

121 tommygum  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:02:36am

I seethe, therefor I am.

122 storagemanager  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:02:41am
ROCHESTER, N.H. -- ROCHESTER, N.H. An armed man has taken two campaign workers hostage at the Hillary Clinton campaign office in Rochester, police said.

Officials with the campaign confirmed that there were two workers taken hostage in the office on 28 North Main St.. A woman and her baby told workers at a neighboring business that she was released by the hostage-taker.

"A young woman with a 6-month or 8-month-old infant came rushing into the store just in tears, and she said, 'You need to call 911. A man has just walked into the Clinton office, opened his coat and showed us a bomb strapped to his chest with duct tape,'" witness Lettie Tzizik said.

[Link: www.wmur.com...]

123 Tailfeather  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:03:14am

And I bet that big knife he is holding is the same one he uses to circumcise his infant daughter.

124 Just_A_Grunt  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:03:48am
125 Squirrelguy  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:03:57am

Others shouted: ”Those who insult the Prophet of Islam should be punished with bullets."

Mo sucks pig nuts.

Any time y'all feel froggy, jump.

126 Peacekeeper  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:04:15am

re: #99 Killgore Trout

re: #81 Peacekeeper

I'm not defending Marxists. I have no relation to them. However the Catholic church has committed it's own atrocities in the past which were just as cruel and unjust and I don't hold modern Catholicism responsible for them. I would accept the criticism in better faith if he'd speak as harshly about Islam. We won't because he's a wimp. He's only going to attack people who respect free speech. He fears Islam and modern civilization equally.

No, he has criticised Islam and it cost a nun in Somalia her life. He's not a wimp: how would you talk if you knew one careless word would lead to murder? I for one am glad I don't bear that burden, thank God. You don't have to be anti science to criticise the many horros visted on us by the application of technology to the black arts.

127 sloggin420[deleted]  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:04:45am
128 mean Gene  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:04:50am

re: #39 Ben Hur
Wasn't an American gay magazine editor beaten up pretty bad by roving bands of "morality police" in Amsterdam a couple of years ago?
I thought that after that there was some official advisory out to the effect that gays must no longer do any act of affection in public there, due to the fact that police could not protect them from these bands of muttawa who have decided to patrol Amsterdam.

Anybody else recall this?

129 GreenSoccer  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:04:56am

re: #26 buzzsawmonkey

wonderful as always.
Do you make your living writing poems?
Do you work for Hallmark?

Maybe Hallmark should produce a card called Muslim Seething Day and we could all send Happy Muslim Seething Day cards to each other any day of the year. Hallmark would like that. Usually there is only 1 day a year for a holiday.

130 uriaheep  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:05:44am

What would the original Teddy, Teddy Roosevelt, do?

131 loppyd  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:06:29am

There is a high school near the HQs. Under lockdown.

132 GreenSoccer  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:06:40am

re: #121 tommygum

fantastic!

133 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:06:48am

re: #72 Killgore Trout

I'll reveal my secret Kokanee fishing hole to you if you stop dissing Benedict.

134 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:07:13am

re: #119 so.cal.swede

here's the deal, if Islam didn't exist, these chaps would be calling for people's heads anyway -- I think Islam just happens to appeal to the type of person who enjoys headchoppin'.

Not sure I can agree with you. If taken to its logical conclusion, you're basically saying that the blood thirst rampant throughout the Middle East and North Africa is racial, and Islam is naturally the sort of religion "those people" would come up with. I can't go there. It's the fucked up faith these people are born into. Islam is at the root of it all.

135 lawhawk  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:07:19am

Live coverage of the incident here: [Link: www.thebostonchannel.com...]

re: #114 JammieWearingFool

Well, wouldn't you know that Mad Murtha is retreating from his untenable position among Democrats in the House - that the surge was working.

136 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:07:36am

re: #94 Ringo the Gringo

. He didn't say "progress through science was also illusory", he said "faith in progress through science was also illusory".


I can guarantee you that science will continue to discover new cures for diseases. What will the Pope do to improve the human condition? He'll continue top offer fairy dust and magical incantations while enriching the Church. I'm still outraged that he has the balls to speak out against science and atheists but wets himself when it comes to the RoP.

137 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:08:26am

re: #117 loppyd

Thanks.

138 Eowyn2  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:08:43am

Staged Pic. Why isnt the chubby guy in the green hat the dude with the benihana fileting knife?

Oh janjaweed
oh janjaweed
your message is revoltin
not only violent
in summertime
but even more
when the bear hibernates

oh janjaweed
oh janjaweed
you make me ill throughtout the year

139 lostlakehiker  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:08:45am

We must remember that it is only a tiny minority of Muslims who are extremists.

A tiny, tiny minority. Certainly not enough to form a mob as reported. This news story just has to be false. It's an insult to Islam to publish such a story.

Death to the Publishers!

(/doihaveto?)

140 Silhouette  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:08:46am

If the bomber at the Clinton office let the woman and baby go, I'd rule out terrorist, because women and babies are typically their targets of choice.

My guess: crazed leftist who is angry at Hillary for not being socialist enough. Like the crazed LLL always seem more hostile towards the Dems that hte GOP, perhaps because they feel more betrayed by that side of the aisle because they thought they were their friends.

141 Peacekeeper  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:09:27am

re: #136 Killgore Trout

Sorry to hear you so angry. I've spoke my piece on this.

142 Eowyn2  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:09:44am

re: #50 sattv4u2

re: #40 Keli


"...who poured out of mosques after Friday prayers screaming for the death..."

When me and my family leave our place of worship, we usually just go to the Olive Garden


You go there because they have those really really sharp bread knives, huh !


its the bread sticks.

143 buzzdroid  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:11:06am

unfortunately for the teacher, the UK PM has no balls.

he's sent the Salman Rushide-hater and terrorist sympathiser, Lord Ahmed.

[Link: johntrenchard.blogspot.com...]
[Link: johntrenchard.blogspot.com...]

yeah. that's gonna make them quake in their boots

144 storagemanager  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:11:15am
"There are sharp shooters on the roof, and police are negotiating with someone in the building," said another witness, who did not want to be identified. "The police are notifying all the business owners on the street to evacuate. There are fire trucks behind the Hillary Clinton office."

[Link: www.wmur.com...]

145 Eowyn2  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:11:16am

re: #135 lawhawk

Live coverage of the incident here: [Link: www.thebostonchannel.com...]

re: #114 JammieWearingFool

Well, wouldn't you know that Mad Murtha is retreating from his untenable position among Democrats in the House - that the surge was working.

Soros must have made a personal phone call.

146 Peacekeeper  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:11:34am

it's probably Rayra.

147 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:11:38am

re: #72 Killgore Trout


You want to apologize to me & the other Catholics here for calling our Pope a "dick?"

148 Farang Kheemao  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:11:41am

Muhammed Bear is back on Ebay.

Link

Long Live Muhammed Bear !

149 Last Mohican  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:12:02am

Thousands of Muslims are rampaging through the streets, demanding the head of a British school teacher because of what some little kids named their teddy bear. In response, Muslims around the world, even in the UK, are pretty much in agreement that she deserves to be punished for insulting their faith.

Now might be a good time to review the question posed during the recent Republican presidential debate by Yasmin, a citizen of Huntsville, Alabama, and a member of a Muslim terrorist front group that seeks to impose Islamic law in the United States:

What would you do as president to repair the image of America in the eyes of the Muslim world?

You have to hand it to the Muslims. They didn't invent the term "chutzpah," but they've got it, like nobody else in the world.

150 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:12:09am

Killgore, Trout

I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that you're a Christopher Hitchens fan.

:-)

151 storagemanager  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:12:40am

Foxnews t.v. Obama office told to evacuate also.

152 jcm  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:12:43am

re: #114 JammieWearingFool

Grim News: Iraqi Civilian Deaths Drop Sharply

As reported by the MSM:
Lancet revises estimates of Iraq civilian sharply upwards./

153 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:13:00am

re: #146 Peacekeeper

it's probably Rayra.

You owe me a new keyboard and monitor.

154 capitalist piglet  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:13:03am

These people long ago became a self-parody...but this teddy bear thing has taken it to a whole new level. Ugh. Lord, please help that woman.

155 Eowyn2  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:13:09am

re: #144 storagemanager

I hope it works out for the people.

156 tommygum  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:14:03am

re: #127 sloggin420

anyone else here name their penis Mohammad?

I wouldn't disrespect my stuff like that.

157 Call me Infidel  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:14:15am

re: #86 SevoGuy

Others shouted: ”Those who insult the Prophet of Islam should be punished with bullets."

And Others Shouted: "Those stupid enough to call Muhammad a prophet should be punished with hell." And they will be.

These morons are SATANS ARMY.

My Great Dane's name is muhammad. He's a great dog. Eats pork, obeys his master and knows that he is a dog.

Mr. President...It's high time that my tax money be withdrawn from these types of Satanic worshipping countries.

I'm not religeous but the more I see of these savages the more I think they are in thrall to Stan. Oh and I quite agree I am sick of my tax money propping up genocidal dirtbags like this.

158 uptight  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:14:22am

I posted this on the other thread, but it's worth a re-post.

Scan of the front page of tonight's London Evening Standard.

159 storagemanager  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:14:52am

Clinton cancels all visits today.

160 Eowyn2  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:14:52am

re: #127 sloggin420

anyone else here name their penis Mohammad?

your penis have a turban?

sorry, it had to be said

161 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:15:06am

re: #133 Cap'n DOC


I'll reveal my secret Kokanee fishing hole to you if you stop dissing Benedict.


No deal. If he's free to criticize my beliefs then I'm free to criticize his. If he was this outspoken about Islam I would at least respect his opinion. He's a complete tool. Opposed to the liberation of Iraq, silent about Palestinian terrorism, he barely makes a squeak when the RoP is killing Christians and oppressing in the Muslim world. He's silent about the persecution of the Copts in Egypt.

162 astronmr20  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:15:07am

hey,

Even though they will try to spin it some, I'm just glad there is finally an event as apropos as this one that defines Islam- that the MSM has really latched into.

163 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:16:02am

re: #147 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You want to apologize to me & the other Catholics here for calling our Pope a "dick?"


Nope. He's a dick and a wimp.

164 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:16:24am

re: #161 Killgore Trout

To be fair, he's supposed to be a spiritual leader, not a Field Marshall.

165 tommygum  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:16:29am

re: #130 uriaheep

What would the original Teddy, Teddy Roosevelt, do?

Teddy wouldn't put up with this shit. Big stick...

166 Kohenan the Barbarian  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:16:54am

Mo-hominid---a hyperbolic Muslim fanatic of low intellect that self flagellates on reflex and is prone to mob hysteria and murder including self immolation whenever the opportunity present itself --triggered by any minuscule of perceived infidel blasphemy in thought or deed.

167 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:16:59am

re: #150 Lizard by the Bay

Not really. I do enjoy him from time to time but I'm not a fan of evangelical atheism.

168 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:17:16am

re: #163 Killgore Trout

re: #147 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

You want to apologize to me & the other Catholics here for calling our Pope a "dick?"


Nope. He's a dick and a wimp.


At least you can be secure in the knowledge that I'll never try to behead you for insulting my faith.

169 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:17:38am
170 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:17:51am

re: #164 Lizard by the Bay

I don't expect him to take action. Just speak out.

171 3 wood  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:17:59am

re: #144 storagemanager

"There are sharp shooters on the roof, and police are negotiating with someone in the building," said another witness, who did not want to be identified. "The police are notifying all the business owners on the street to evacuate. There are fire trucks behind the Hillary Clinton office."

How long you figure before the MSM blames Bush/conservatives? Dinner time.

172 storagemanager  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:18:10am

Oh great...a religious war thread.

173 Maine's Michael  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:18:48am

I think you have to ask yourself, who benefits from making the Islamics look like a bunch of lunatics?

When you answer that question, you will understand who is really behind this whole thing.

174 Farang Kheemao  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:18:57am

EXTRA, EXTRA, This just in!

We now have a Muhammad Frog for sale on Ebay!
LINK

This frog is green must be a cousin to our Lizards.

175 Dotcoman  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:19:13am

re: #134 Lizard by the Bay

re: #119 so.cal.swede

here's the deal, if Islam didn't exist, these chaps would be calling for people's heads anyway -- I think Islam just happens to appeal to the type of person who enjoys headchoppin'.

Not sure I can agree with you. If taken to its logical conclusion, you're basically saying that the blood thirst rampant throughout the Middle East and North Africa is racial, and Islam is naturally the sort of religion "those people" would come up with. I can't go there. It's the fucked up faith these people are born into. Islam is at the root of it all.

Amen.
The Muslim religion is all about violence and is the Anti-Christ.

Mohammad was a pedophile and a kept man-whore before be became the lying head of a false religion of a fallen angel.

176 Eowyn2  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:19:14am

re: #168 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

we will punish him by withholding kokanee

177 talon_262  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:19:26am

Like I said in today's other Blasphemous Teddy Bear thread:


Ms. Gibbons is mostly screwed in any case...I wonder if there are some imams that will attempt to whip up their flocks to storm the prison where she is being held in order to mete out their own brand of Islamic "justice". Even if she makes it back to Britain alive, she's still a marked woman in the eyes of the jihadis...think Salman Rushdie or Ayaan Hirsi Ali. The only way she's gonna have a fighting chance to live out a semi-normal life is come to America, perhaps somewhere in the South or Midwest.

The seething, duplicitous, and murderous Islamists are pretty much like the Terminator (one of my favorite films), as Reese was describing them to Sarah Connor in the first movie:

"Listen. And understand. That terminator is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead."

The Brits urgently need to do something about this situation, because I do not trust the Sudanese government on this one damn bit...

178 Call me Infidel  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:19:30am

re: #173 Maine's Michael

I think you have to ask yourself, who benefits from making the Islamics look like a bunch of lunatics?

When you answer that question, you will understand who is really behind this whole thing.

Ok I give up who is it?

179 uptight  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:19:36am

If ever there was a window into the true nature of the ROP, it's the reaction of Muslims on a Friday.

Friday is the main prayer & sermon day in mosques and also the main riot day on the streets.

Whilst a visit to the church or temple of most religions, with a sobering experience leading to spiritual refreshment or reflection, Islamist clerics use the opportunity to wind up their congregation and get them baying for blood. Its the same in the West Bank & Gaza. Friday is riot day.

180 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:19:40am

re: #172 storagemanager

I've got 'em riled up today.

181 EE  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:19:55am

re: #111 Silhouette

The key phrase is

The protesters streamed out of mosques after Friday sermons...

Clear cause-and-effect evidence for even the most reluctant that it is the teaching of the religion that encourages and increases the violence.

When attending a religious service whips the masses into a bloodthirsty frenzy, when this happens time and again is various places, it is reasonable to suspect the religion isn't teaching love, peace, and understanding.

You have identified the source of the problem: it's the imams.

Here is a peculiar thing. Blacks have been raped and massacred in southern Sudan and in the Darfur region of Sudan, by Arab Muslim militias supported and encouraged by the government of Sudan, and Sudan is presently the largest human rights catastrophe in the world.

That doesn't seem to bother these people. They have been whipped up into a murderous rage over what? A teacher that came to help the students of Sudan allowed her pupils the privilege of naming a teddy bear, and these lunatic imams preaching to the masses don't like the name -- so they demand that she be murdered.

Hyper-mohamedanism is the mental illness that these imams have. They have a tolerance for rape on a vast scale and for massacres, but they are insult-paranoid, and see insults everywhere in the ordinary affairs of the non-mohamedan world, which they demand be punished by murder.

The insult-paranoia is reminiscent of psychotic individuals. If you should be in the company of such a person, do not even look into his eyes, because that could be interpreted as an insult, and the result would be an attack.

This sort of insult-paranoia that the hyper-mohamedanists display is unlike any normal behavior, and is best thought of as a kind of mental illness.

182 storagemanager  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:20:23am

Think I will market a Mohammad dog house...don't worry...it will face Mecca.

183 thanos  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:21:15am

re: #100 NY Nana

re: #70 gymnast


Are they certain the guy with the bomb isn't a Hillary plant.

Good point, especially in an L6 state like N.H.

It's probalby a Youtube guy who's question didn't get picked for the debates...

184 Last Mohican  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:22:02am

re: #174 Farang Kheemao

EXTRA, EXTRA, This just in!

We now have a Muhammad Frog for sale on Ebay!
LINK

This frog is green must be a cousin to our Lizards.

When someone comes up with a Mohammed Pig, I'll bid on him.

185 edfeeney  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:22:04am

I hate it when people blame the victim. But Im gonna blame this victim. I don't know if Ms Gibbons knew what she was getting into or didn't care. This woman is lucky that shes getting out with her body intact. Now Ms Gibbons must have been aware that if your going to relocate in an area thats run by Sharia law that alone would tell you that your going to some horrific place where "fundamentists" rule the roost. A westerner has no bizness being there. But if you insist on still relocating there then you better damn well learn the customs and laws there. There is no room for mistakes around these fanatics. I think shes been there fo a yr and she should've known about these quirky little things that could cost her her life. Personally I can't believe she was there to begin with. There is NOTHING the west can do to help these people. There gonna have to change from within and I think we all no what the chances are of that happening. So some people are calling her being there noble but personnally I think she acted more like the village idiot.

186 tommygum  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:22:08am

re: #134 Lizard by the Bay

re: #119 so.cal.swede

here's the deal, if Islam didn't exist, these chaps would be calling for people's heads anyway -- I think Islam just happens to appeal to the type of person who enjoys headchoppin'.

Not sure I can agree with you. If taken to its logical conclusion, you're basically saying that the blood thirst rampant throughout the Middle East and North Africa is racial, and Islam is naturally the sort of religion "those people" would come up with. I can't go there. It's the fucked up faith these people are born into. Islam is at the root of it all.

I think what he meant was, IMO, the way communism did nothing to change the basic russian mindset, they were, are and always be brutal, xenophobic and sinister. A national trait, with a name.

187 buzzdroid  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:22:15am

blogpost here that reveals how much the Sudanese have been getting from the UK taxypayer:

"Guess who funds the Sudanese government?"
[Link: johntrenchard.blogspot.com...]

about £113 million per year.

ungrateful b**tards. we should stop all funding full stop - and then send the SAS in to rescue her.

188 astronmr20  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:22:24am

re: #168 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

How does that insult your faith? Ain't no Pope in Jesus' words.

Persecution is a part of being a Christian. Our own Christ was ridiculed time and time again; it's part of our lot in life and we were warned in the Bible that it's part of being a Christian.

Sorry I'm pontificating and I went off an a thological tangent.

189 storagemanager  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:22:25am

re: #183 thanos

Could it be the gay General?

190 pegcity  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:22:42am

re: #177 talon_262

Like I said in today's other Blasphemous Teddy Bear thread:



Ms. Gibbons is mostly screwed in any case...I wonder if there are some imams that will attempt to whip up their flocks to storm the prison where she is being held in order to mete out their own brand of Islamic "justice". Even if she makes it back to Britain alive, she's still a marked woman in the eyes of the jihadis...think Salman Rushdie or Ayaan Hirsi Ali. The only way she's gonna have a fighting chance to live out a semi-normal life is come to America, perhaps somewhere in the South or Midwest.
The seething, duplicitous, and murderous Islamists are pretty much like the Terminator (one of my favorite films), as Reese was describing them to Sarah Connor in the first movie:

"Listen. And understand. That terminator is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead."


The Brits urgently need to do something about this situation, because I do not trust the Sudanese government on this one damn bit...

The Black Meteor Of Mecca is Skynet.

191 Seraphym  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:23:04am
"Those who insult the Prophet of Islam should be punished with bullets"

So... they are advocating the death of the little children who were actually the ones who wanted to name the teddy bear after dirty ol' Uncle Mo?

"Miss Gibbons, who allowed her pupils to call a teddy bear Mohammed..."

Death to the blasphemous 6-year-olds! That sounds about right for Islam.

ROPMA

192 astronmr20  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:23:11am

re: #175 Dotcoman

Um...


Moe about this "man-whore?"

193 buzzdroid  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:23:26am

re: #185 edfeeney

i dont know if you know the full story - it was the KIDS that named the bear. not the teacher.

it was a term of affection, because the bear was named after a popular kid in the class, called mohammed.

194 Dotcoman  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:23:57am

re: #82 Killgore Trout

re: #76 JammieWearingFool

It's probably a jilted boyfriend of a staffer. I hope it's not political.

Or the Husband of one of Bil Clinton's dalliances...
Only a matter of time with a raping sex addict pervert like him running around loose.

195 WrathofG-d  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:24:08am

(a) Maybe this entire thing with the Brit teacher was a masterful plan by Bush/___ to get the Black Muslims and the Arab Muslims on the same page to end the Genocide.

196 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:24:26am

re: #188 astronmr20

re: #168 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

How does that insult your faith? Ain't no Pope in Jesus' words.

Persecution is a part of being a Christian. Our own Christ was
ridiculed time and time again; it's part of our lot in life and we were
warned in the Bible that it's part of being a Christian.

Sorry I'm pontificating and I went off an a thological tangent.

See, even you can't help but to play Pope! ;)

197 uptight  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:24:37am

re: #177 talon_262

Like I said in today's other Blasphemous Teddy Bear thread:



Ms. Gibbons is mostly screwed in any case...I wonder if there are some imams that will attempt to whip up their flocks to storm the prison where she is being held in order to mete out their own brand of Islamic "justice". Even if she makes it back to Britain alive, she's still a marked woman in the eyes of the jihadis...think Salman Rushdie or Ayaan Hirsi Ali. The only way she's gonna have a fighting chance to live out a semi-normal life is come to America, perhaps somewhere in the South or Midwest.The seething, duplicitous, and murderous Islamists are pretty much like the Terminator (one of my favorite films), as Reese was describing them to Sarah Connor in the first movie:

"Listen. And understand. That terminator is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead."

The Brits urgently need to do something about this situation, because I do not trust the Sudanese government on this one damn bit...

What will be, will be. I feel sorry for her, but stick your head in the mouth of a lion and expect the consequences.

Let's hope this serves as a lesson to anyone else thinking of living in Sharialand.

It's certainly underlined the reality of Islam to anyone who doesn't ordinarily express an interest in politics.

If MPACUK & the MCB are condemning this decision you just KNOW they are worried. The sharia cat is out of the bag and its name is Mohammed (said in my best Chris Morris "The Day Today" voice)

198 kafir  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:24:39am

”No tolerance: Execution,“ and ”Kill her, kill her by firing squad.“

Say it ain't so ... I thought islam is a "religion" of peace AND tolerance.

Could it possibly be that islam is not a "religion" of tolerance? Isn't that what that guy with the big knife is saying?

It couldn't be that our government is lying to us when they say islam is a "religion" of peace and tolerance? Not possible ... right?

/sarc

199 Peacekeeper  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:25:01am

It's the most wonderful time of the year
With the kids jingle belling
And everyone telling you "Be of good cheer"
It's the most wonderful time of the year
It's the hap-happiest season of all
With those radical greetings and gay happy beatings
When fiends come to call
It's the hap- happiest season of all

There'll be whippings and groaning
and women for stoning
And cutting off heads by the mosque
There'll be scary ghost stories
And tales of the glories of
Islam from long, long ago

It's the most wonderful time of the year
There'll be much raging and seething
And heads will be leaving
their shoulders my dear
It's the most wonderful time of the year

200 kynna  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:25:05am

I am going to name every useless or vile thing I come across 'Mohammed.' It's most fitting IMO.

Look at those people in that picture. They could give something positive to the world and yet they have chosen to be entities that serve only waste food and air.

Thank the Lord I live in the US. Not that this lunacy won't strike here (on a much larger scale than it already is) and sooner than I'd like. But for today, I live in a free country and I am thankful.

201 astronmr20  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:25:44am

re: #196 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I Gotcha (:

But the point is, I have no religious title; I'm just a follower of the text. Something that defines a Christian in the first place.

202 gop_patriot  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:25:45am

re: #174 Farang Kheemao

That's awesome. Love the last picture.

203 storagemanager  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:25:52am

The man is demanding to speak to Hill...maybe he is a family member of her girlfriend.

204 Dotcoman  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:25:59am

re: #192 astronmr20

re: #175 Dotcoman

Um...


Moe about this "man-whore?"

He was a male prostitute, that's how he made a living before being chased into the desert by an angry husband of one of his clients.

205 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:26:01am

Since the seething mobs are calling for the teacher to be killed by firing squad, rather than stoning or beheading, is that progress?
/

206 cagney  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:26:06am

re: #96 Ben Hur


I'm sorry, but I think the majority of the Brit establishment/MSM and probably the people don't see the hypocrisy of their outrage vis-a-vis their demonization of Israel.

I'm not going to pretend that we are as supportive of Israel as folk in the States are but we're not getting taking in by the hypocrisy of a small but very vocal section of our society. We hear this demonisation of Israel yet we hear also the silence of their policy towards Uganda.

We're too cynical to be taken in by it.

207 astronmr20  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:26:25am

re: #201 astronmr20

Oh...


Now I get it.


Right after I hit send! (:

208 uptight  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:26:35am

re: #191 Seraphym

"Those who insult the Prophet of Islam should be punished with bullets"

So... they are advocating the death of the little children who were actually the ones who wanted to name the teddy bear after dirty ol' Uncle Mo?

"Miss Gibbons, who allowed her pupils to call a teddy bear Mohammed..."

Death to the blasphemous 6-year-olds! That sounds about right for Islam.

ROPMA

ah - but it was a male child

209 tommygum  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:26:41am

re: #160 Eowyn2

re: #127 sloggin420

anyone else here name their penis Mohammad?

your penis have a turban?

sorry, it had to be said

No, a helmet.

210 WrathofG-d  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:26:42am

I miss the "good-old-days" here at LGF when you could input a large pink symbol for ALLAH in arabic and cross it out.

it is even friday...

...i miss those days...

211 Skul  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:26:56am

I have a nice pink Teddy pig. His name is MooHAMid.

212 pegcity  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:27:08am

re: #193 buzzdroid

re: #185 edfeeney

i dont know if you know the full story - it was the KIDS that named the bear. not the teacher.

it was a term of affection, because the bear was named after a popular kid in the class, called mohammed.

I dunno sounds like a Mossad Plot, no mere woman could come up with such a sinister plot to enflame the muslim world. Only the Joooz could rouse such hatred. Therefore i decree that all teddy Bears are a zionist plot to weaken islam and defame the prophet Mohammed.

/soon to be a Editorial in the Fatah times.

213 astronmr20  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:27:16am

re: #204 Dotcoman

re: #192 astronmr20

re: #175 Dotcoman

Um...


Moe about this "man-whore?"

He was a male prostitute, that's how he made a living before being chased into the desert by an angry husband of one of his clients.

I missed this part. Reference?

214 Is it me?  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:27:25am

#27 Lawhawk
I wouldn't rely on the BBC for news. I avoid them like the plague because of their bias, they should be ashamed. The BBC should be a force for truth but over the years they've gone from being left leaning to something more sinister with the way they spin stories, it's more like propoganda. Be thankful you don't have to pay the Licence Fee, I do - I have to or face the legal consequences.

#72 Killgore
Atheism? Did someone put something in the Popes' tea? The RCs lost members recently? Weird.

I was reading the Daily Mail before I came on here and it sounds like the court softpeddled and there is talk of her getting out even sooner. Perhaps diplomacy worked. In Richard Littlejohns column he stated that the UK has given Sudan 326 million pounds in the last 5 years (why?) and another 114 million pounds is in the pipeline!
I say get her out of there
Get any Brits out of there and warn any other Western countries to do the same
Cancel the aid

The only reason I can see us having anything to do with Sudan is to keep some sort of a presence there as a block to the Chinese. Apart from that I'm stumped.
Friday prayers? Sounds more like Friday incitement to me. That's some serious machete in the picture. The scary thing is that they ain't kidding. Sick people.

215 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:28:31am

re: #213 astronmr20

re: #204 Dotcoman

re: #192 astronmr20

re: #175 DotcomanUm...


Moe about this "man-whore?"

He
was a male prostitute, that's how he made a living before being chased
into the desert by an angry husband of one of his clients.

I missed this part. Reference?

So Deuce Bigalow is involved in all this?

216 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:29:27am

re: #196 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

I think what really pisses me off about the Pope's statement is that atheists are not his enemy. Science is not his enemy. Progress is not his enemy. Radical Islam is his enemy and the enemy of Western civilization. He's not helping to save the West and spread freedom. At this point he's becoming a hindrance.

217 EE  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:30:09am

If it's Friday, it's time for the hyper-mohamedanists to prey.

218 thscott  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:30:20am

Swords or bullets... make up your minds already!

219 cagney  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:31:14am

They are really creative with their threats aren't they?

Behead those who insult Islam
Those who insult the Prophet of Islam should be punished with bullets.
Death to those who insult Islam

Whatever will they think of next?

220 Owl  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:32:21am
Teddy bear teacher moved to secret location as thousands of Islamic fanatics facists demand her execution.


well, they almost got it right.

221 buzzdroid  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:33:56am

Jihad Watch is bang on the money

"Muslim math"
[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

Mohammed + Teddy Bear = Riot

Mohammed + Atta = No Riots

222 Last Mohican  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:34:17am

re: #149 Last Mohican

A little more information on the response of British Muslims to the Teddy Bear Seethe:

MPACUK released a press statement yesterday, condemning the Sudanese verdict. Today they announced that they are organizing a protest at the Sudanese embassy tomorrow. It'll be interesting to see who, if anyone shows up at the protest. You can read about all it at MPACUK's website, right over the "When will Palestine be free?" story:

[Link: www.mpacuk.org...]
(it's probably best not to link directly from LGF -- who knows what nasty stuff they might install on your computer).

It's also interesting to read the comments on MPACUK's site. A lot of them are from pissed-off non-Muslims. I'd say that less than half of the Muslims' comments are in agreement with MPACUK's condemnation. Some agree with punishing the teacher. Many take the "who are we to criticize the legal system of another country" position.

223 mingjaiyo  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:34:37am

134 Lizard by the Bay. You don't have to look at the issue as racial thing.It most certainly can be looked at as a cultural thing. The concept of complete subjugation-submit or die- goes back to Cyrus the Great in 527 bce.He left Persia-modern day Iran-and began expanding his empire.This extension proceeded through his son to his greatgrandson Xerxes defeated at Plataia in 479bce.Each of them demanded "Earth and Water" of any country they entered. This attitude was maintained across time.When Mo arrived on the scene and included the concept of "submission" into his religious philosophy this wasn't something new.It had existed culturally in the population for millenia.It in fact made the spread of Islam easier as the population shifted their ultimate loyalty away from a "divine"ruler to a single god.This attitude thrived under islam and is,obviously from the actions of the practioners of the ROP,is still thriving today.Race has nothing to do with it-it's an aspect of culture going back to the earliest times of recorded history.

224 uptight  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:36:12am

BWAHAHAHAHA

I've never seen MPACUK so worried!

The shit has hit the fan for Shariah. We know it. They know it and the British public sure as hell know it.

Damage limitation has never been so panicked.

link

225 GreenSoccer  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:36:30am

re: #169 buzzsawmonkey

You could turn out your own cards. I have known people who have done it. They take photographs and cut and paste. You have the words. If it is too dangerous to do it in reality you could do it online. Seethin's Greetings - another great one! One problem might be using photos that have copyrights on them. I guess you could ask for permission and put their copyright notice on the cards/ecards.

226 buzzdroid  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:38:35am

re: #216 Killgore Trout

i agree.

and anyway, communism is practically dead nowadays anyway.
there is no way its as big a threat as what it was during the Soviet era.

227 cagney  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:38:36am

re: #224 uptight

As always WELL after the sh!t hits the fan.

228 Alouette  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:38:43am

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

If the reverse had occurred, and the teacher told her class they could NOT name their teddy bear "Mohammed" because it was disrespectful to the Profit, the seethers would still have demanded her execution, because "these Muslim children wished to honor their beloved pet by naming it after the 'Blasted Profit,' so who is this infidel to tell them they are not allowed to do so?"

229 Sarge1984  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:39:05am

re: #40 Keli

"...who poured out of mosques after Friday prayers screaming for the death..."

When me and my family leave our place of worship, we usually just go to the Olive Garden

I read in a few milblogs not that long ago about how the troops in Iraq could predict to some extent when it would start to heat up. It was usually right after the afternoon prayers on Friday. The imams would get the congregation all fired up, they'd stream out of the mosques, and violence ensued.
Another milblog, the name escapes me at the present, was written by an Air Force captain who told of his interaction with his Afghan interpreter. I bring that up because the interpreter was apparently a devout Muslim, but had never read the Koran. He and the rest of his people relied solely on the interpretations of the imam as to what the Koran said and what it meant.
It's sad that people are kept in ignorance like that; that they are raised with no sense of tolerance at all; that their ignorance (note: not stupidity--you can't cure stoopid) keeps them entirely dependent on the interpretations of a few possibly twisted individuals with their own agendas.
Just sad.

230 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:39:47am

re: #136 Killgore Trout


I'm still outraged that he has the balls to speak out against science and atheists but wets himself when it comes to the RoP.

The Pope doesn't wet himself when it comes to Islam and the Pope has not spoken out against science.

He is simply saying that science can't provide answers to moral questions and that science can be used for both good and evil, therefore we need to look elsewhere - to God - for the answers to moral questions.

Of course he has spoken out against atheism, he's the Pope for crying out loud, what do you expect?

231 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:40:07am
232 pegcity  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:40:48am

re: #229 Sarge1984

re: #40 Keli


"...who poured out of mosques after Friday prayers screaming for the death..."

When me and my family leave our place of worship, we usually just go to the Olive Garden


I read in a few milblogs not that long ago about how the troops in Iraq could predict to some extent when it would start to heat up. It was usually right after the afternoon prayers on Friday. The imams would get the congregation all fired up, they'd stream out of the mosques, and violence ensued.
Another milblog, the name escapes me at the present, was written by an Air Force captain who told of his interaction with his Afghan interpreter. I bring that up because the interpreter was apparently a devout Muslim, but had never read the Koran. He and the rest of his people relied solely on the interpretations of the imam as to what the Koran said and what it meant.
It's sad that people are kept in ignorance like that; that they are raised with no sense of tolerance at all; that their ignorance (note: not stupidity--you can't cure stoopid) keeps them entirely dependent on the interpretations of a few possibly twisted individuals with their own agendas.
Just sad.


keep in mind most muslims in the middle east marry their first cousins, that is not great for the old gene pool

233 Ojoe  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:41:28am

We need to make these people afraid of us.

234 Adrenalyn  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:41:38am

this is just rich I tell ya

don't black Africans realize it was a moo slum,
the sultan of oman
who started the practice of raiding black Africa for slaves to sell abroad ?

how stupid can these people be to embrace such a "religion"

ISLAM = I Surely Loathe All Mothers
(and will keep them bagged for their own good)

then again, American blacks keep following the Nazicrat party as they keep dangling the carrot at them and offering nothing except life on the plantation and no progress

235 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:42:01am

re: #226 buzzdroid

and anyway, communism is practically dead nowadays anyway.
there is no way its as big a threat as what it was during the Soviet era.


Good point. If he wanted to improve the lives of europeans he could speak out against European socialism (Markx's bastard child).

236 Lizard by the Bay  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:43:26am

re: #233 Ojoe

We need to make these people afraid of us.

Agreed. Abject fear gets results, and Muslims are pre-programmed to respect the "Strong Horse".

237 Silhouette  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:47:01am

I realize I am insane for debating one of their assine assertions against Gibbons, but regardless:

Some of the apologists for Sudan insist that the woman is wrong because she was arrogant/stupid/evil for not learning and understanding shariah in her six months there.

But the children didn't seem to know it was a mortal sin, and they'd been there 6 YEARS, not to mention they are trained in Islam all day long, when school hours are over.

238 cagney  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:47:19am

re: #236 Lizard by the Bay

The mentality of these people reminds me of the spoilt child who can't gets its way and spits the dummy out of the pram.

I think there's a saying that comes to mind, spare the rod, spoil the child.

239 buzzdroid  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:53:39am

re: #230 Ringo the Gringo

yeah - but its the wrong target and the wrong time. during the USSR/cold war he would have been dead right. nowadays, he's wide of the mark.

maybe King Abdullah had a word with him about Islam.

remember him? Saudi King. paid a visit to the pope recently.

240 buzzdroid  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:54:29am

re: #235 Killgore Trout

indeed. that whole European Union thing is indeed the bastard child of the USSR. its crammed full of Eurosocialist nutjobs.

241 RoughRider  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:54:40am

re: #89 storagemanager

re: #75 lawhawk

There are more than enough nuts to go around. Someone claiming to have a bomb in the Clinton campaign office in NH is bad news. Hopefully that situation will resolve itself peacefully.

Foxnews t.v. said man is armed to the teeth.

If he's ever attended a church service, watch how quickly he'll be branded a "Christian terrorist."

242 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:57:34am

re: #230 Ringo the Gringo

...we need to look elsewhere - to God - for the answers to moral questions.


As you're probably aware I don't see the Church as morally superior. They employed and enabled countless serial child rapists until very recently. They have tried to clean up their act due to public pressure not because of their morals. They were aware of the activities of many of the child rapists and still allowed them access to children. That's not moraly superior to me.
In regards to Marxism; at the time Marxism was committing its attrocities the Church (with its "superior morals") was collaborating with the Nazis. You can make they argument that they did it to survive just like the French but "what would Jesus do?" I suspect JC would have gone down opposing the Nazis. If the Nazis had won there's a good chance the Church would still be cooperating today.
I don't see where the Pope has the ability to maintain the moral highground here.

243 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:58:09am

re: #239 buzzdroid

maybe King Abdullah had a word with him about Islam.

remember him? Saudi King. paid a visit to the pope recently

I seriously doubt that the Pope was impressed by King Abdullah.

244 GreenSoccer  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:59:51am

re: #231 buzzsawmonkey

seethin is a good word to use.

245 abu_garcia  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:59:51am

re: #224 uptight

I'll sure be interested in seeing how many show up to express their "anger" over this.

Charles, if you could find a live feed I think it would make a great topic. Tomorrow at 2 pm London time (a little early for LGF, I know).

246 Pyrocles  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:00:34pm

Willfully blind. These city officials will consider every reason for the attacks other than the only true reason: the religious intolerance of the Morrocans!

re: #39 Ben Hur

Amsterdam officials commissioning study to determine why Moroccans target city's gays


This month, Mayor Job Cohen commissioned the University of Amsterdam to conduct a study on the motives behind the hate crimes. Half of the crimes were committed by men of Moroccan origin and researchers believe they felt stigmatized by society and responded by attacking people they felt were lower on the social ladder. Another working theory is that the attackers may be struggling with their own sexual identity.
247 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:00:56pm

re: #239 buzzdroid

The Saudi king gave the Pope a sword. It's an odd gift after the Pope had to packpeddle after his statement that Islam was spread by the sword last year. Did the Pope say anything about that being an inappropriate gift under these circumstances? Nope, he smiled and took it.

248 edfeeney  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:01:26pm

Holy crap there is something going on at Clintons hdqt. My monies on Dick Morris being the hostage-taker. That little guy is so infactuated with Hillary he can't even hide it anymore.

249 cagney  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:03:59pm

re: #245 abu_garcia

Hopefully one of these halfwits will go onto Newsnight so Jeremy Paxman can rip them to shreds.

250 Ojoe  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:06:12pm

re: #242 Killgore Trout

Re the Pope, here is a post for you.

#179 True German Ally 4/20/2005 8:57:37 am PDT

Pope Benedict may come across as the Great Inquisitor, but he has never refused discussion and arguments. He is firm on the "essentials" of the Catholic faith. The German Catholic professors he suspended clearly violated the essential principles of Catholicism. He is an extremely intelligent, bright personality... a bit shy with people though. He won't pretend to have the charisma of JPII.

From my conversations with him in the late 70s, when he was archbishop of Munich, I learned a few things about him:

1) That he hated the Nazis even during his short time in the Hitler Youth. He was a nominal member, but was exempted weeks after his compulsory joining because of his fragile health and studies in the Catholic seminary (many boys actually joined Catholic institutions to avoid service in the HJ.) His teen years had a lasting effect on him as he was able to see the difference between reality and what the Nazis taught. His love for truth and being truthful all the time stems from this early experience.

2) He was a progressive Catholic in his early year (played an important role at the 2nd Vaticanum), but the intolerance of 1968 made him change his mind. He abhorred communism and the carefree nihilist thinkings in these times and became a conservative, but not a reactionary, as many claim.

3) He saw the dangers of Islamic fanatism in the 70s already. Khomeini was a menetekel for him. At this time he didn't see Islam so much as a threat for Europe (yet), but for Asia and Africa.

4) He is more a friend of the Jews than most other Catholic priests. I remember him saying that Christians and Jews are on the same direction to salvation, just on different paths. Islam instead was an aberration that would lead humanity into a religious "dead end street" (Sackgasse was his exact word). He strongly favoured a rapprochement between the Catholic and Jewish faith, but didn't see any common ground between Christianity and Islam.


And yes, I think, we'll see a few surprises from him in the next years. I had to chuckle when I heard the Chicoms demands today. Oh boy, they are messing with the wrong guy here.

Benedict of Nursia one restored the Christian faith in a devastated Europe. Commentators have focussed much on Benedict XV as the closest role model of Ratzinger. But I think he's much closer to Benedict XIV.

[Link: [Link: www.newadvent.org...]...]

And yes, he loved the "Apfelmaultaschen" (pasta made with potato flour, filled with apples and powder sugar and cinnamon on top) my wife prepared for him :-)

They look like this:
[Link: [Link: www.donau.de...]...]

I guess you won't find this detail on CNN :-)

251 Dotcoman  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:12:23pm

re: #215 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

re: #213 astronmr20

re: #204 Dotcoman

re: #192 astronmr20

re: #175 DotcomanUm...


Moe about this "man-whore?"

He
was a male prostitute, that's how he made a living before being chased
into the desert by an angry husband of one of his clients.

I missed this part. Reference?

So Deuce Bigalow is involved in all this?

Well Duce Mohammad was anyway.
Man whore and false prophet, hell of a way to start a religion.

252 Susanl  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:12:51pm

OT (not really) and Driveby

Lets see how they would react if this were mo instead of Jesus.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

(I hope I did that right)

Susan

253 Is it me?  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:13:05pm

#127 sloggin420
No - but then I'm a girlie.
If I lived in Sudan I don't think I would have anything to call anything if you follow my drift. GRRR

#149 Last mohican
A more interesting question for someone to ask Yasmin would have been *what are you going to do to repair the image of Islam in the eyes of the World* The look on her face should have been a picture.
Anyhoo, how come you Americans are supposed to apologise for everything in the world. The homicidal maniacs are responsible for their own actions and any attempt to blame you for their lunacy should be firmly rebuffed and dumped right back in their laps. They excuse their behaviour by blaming us for *insulting* them and not being sensitive to them. Pish!

#158 Uptight
Thanks for that link. Abdul said her incarceration *does not satisty the thirst of the Muslims in Sudan* Their thirst for what exactly? Blood I would presume.
I usually think of the Palestinians as squatting in their very own moral cesspit but I think they're about to have some company. These are scary people.

254 FriarsTale  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:14:35pm

Teddy Bear of Blasphemy satire song
sung to Elvis' Teddy Bear

255 littleO  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:18:46pm

Short of almost every commodity known to man. up to date water and sewage systems, a distant dream. A political system that excells at nothing, but coruption. Let their own children name a teddy bear mohamed and their in the streets with expensive guns, knives and swords. Demanding the blood of an innocent person.
I say, cut 'cut' them out of any trade dealings, or aid deals, with the US.

256 anotherindyfilmguy  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:20:54pm

re: #127 sloggin420

anyone else here name their penis Mohammad?

No, it's for use with the opposite sex...

257 Killgore Trout  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:21:46pm

re: #250 Ojoe
He wasn't afraid to speak out in the 70's...

Islam instead was an aberration that would lead humanity into a religious "dead end street" (Sackgasse was his exact word). He strongly favoured a rapprochement between the Catholic and Jewish faith, but didn't see any common ground between Christianity and Islam.

Here's what he said yesterday: Pope Stresses Muslim-Christian Dialogue

Pope Benedict XVI has replied to a letter from Muslim scholars, stressing the need for dialogue between Islam and Christianity and saying he would be willing to meet Muslim representatives, the Vatican said Thursday.

The pope expressed "deep appreciation for this gesture, for the positive spirit which inspired the text (of the letter) and for the call for a common commitment to promoting peace in the world."
...
"Such common ground allows us to base dialogue on effective respect for the dignity of every human person, on objective knowledge of the religion of the other, on the sharing of religious experience and, finally, on common commitment to promoting mutual respect and acceptance among the younger generation," Benedict said.


He sees plenty of common ground and I suspect that one of the things not mentioned is the common hatred of atheists, secularism and science.

258 Dotcoman  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:22:17pm

re: #252 Susanl

OT (not really) and Driveby

Lets see how they would react if this were mo instead of Jesus.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

(I hope I did that right)

Susan

Oh yeah, Mohammad on a hog, no doubt on his way to Sturgis, no way they'd let that offend.

I could see Jesus coming back on a white Harley, after all he's still living and Mohammad (may he burn in hell) is not.

259 dutch_bart  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:22:59pm

re: #35 Pass The Moonbaticide


Maybe now the common people can see what has been so clear to us on LGF for years.

Dream on...

260 bunker buster  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:23:59pm

re: #127 sloggin420

anyone else here name their penis Mohammad?

You have jihadi junk?

261 Dotcoman  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:25:09pm

re: #256 anotherindyfilmguy

re: #127 sloggin420

anyone else here name their penis Mohammad?

No, it's for use with the opposite sex...

My girlfriend named mine; Allah Akbar

262 cagney  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:26:25pm

re: #259 dutch_bart

You're most likely right but I think the result of this episode is that all their bleatings will now fall on deaf ears and their BS called out.

263 madisonsfriend  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:26:56pm

Give them their own planet and then tell anyone who wants to "help" them that they are on their own.

264 We need G.C. Scott  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:27:36pm

Maybe Jhimmi Carter can intervene on her behalf. He's got such a quality track record with hostage negotiating after all. Sheeesh! Are any western leaders familiar with the term: economic ultimatum?

265 nikis-knight  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:30:47pm

Muslims are pretty much one trick ponies, ain't they? Every time something happens that they don't like, "Death!" "Death to America!" "Death to Israel!" "Death to Salman Rushdie!" "Death to apostates!" "Death to those who insult Islam!"

It's getting to the point that one cannot aptly describe Islam in the world today without three profanitys and a naughty had gesture!

BTW, if the nut in the Clinton office is some deranged right-winger (which I doubt) I hope they through the book at him, if he survives. Of course.

266 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:34:02pm

As a new hatchling (born yesterday - but up all night) I am going to come clean here and I hope I am neither vilified nor booted by Sir Charles: I am a recovering liberal.

Having said that, I was just trolling Rawstory Rawsewage and was reading the gleeful responses to your typical anti-Israel article found there.

Apropos THIS story, some douche-bag actually wrote: "I don't think we've heard enough about how the most notoriously savage government in recent history is a sad, defenseless victim." SO what does that make Sudan then? Hmmm . . .

I cant even bring myself to cut and paste the rest of the posts that seem to come straight out of himmlers propaganda machine.

In any case, I hope I have found a home here.

267 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:34:05pm
268 nikis-knight  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:34:10pm

re: #265 nikis-knight

Gah, through=throw!

269 Joan Not of Arc  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:36:53pm

There are so many things wrong with this and so many points to be made:
-someone was stupid enough to go to an Islamic country
-a child, unimaginatively called Muhammed, named the offending teddy bear (and who hasn't humoured a child). It should be pointed out that none of these children or parents are whipped (yet)
-if the teacher was set free, there would be riots. If the teacher was whipped, there would be riots. The teacher was jailed and there are still riots
-someone wants this to be an issue (no surprise)
-no one wants to offend the pedophile prophet
-consequential apologies/soothing
-some Muslims are embarrassed and rightly so
-this is a religion where the messenger (a war-mongering pedophile) is greater than the message
-I don't think the Pope hates anyone, even atheists, and certainly not science, but perhaps the misuse of it

270 Jonas Parker  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:37:34pm

Breaking News: AP 20071130A5

Teddy Bears Demonstrate! Santa's Workshops Shut Down!

A massive teddy-bear march in the downtown district of the North Pole shut down Santa's workshops today during the crucial pre-Christmas toy manufacturing rush. The teddy-bears were protesting the "cruel and unusual punishment" of a Somalian teddy bear who was unthinkingly named "Mohammad" by an inept teacher from Great Britain. "This insult to all teddy bears of the world must be avenged" stated International Order of Teddy Bears' spokes-bear "Smokey", "even if it cancels Christmas entirely. Teddy bears are soft, cuddly and comforting. To have one named after a pedophile Islamofacist is inexcusable. If this is not stopped now, the next thing to fear is that teddy bears will be contaminated with lead paint from China!"

Santa Claus was unavailable for comment, but "Munchkin", the president and spokes-elf of Elf Toy-makers International Union Local 245 said he and his union brothers and sisters were in complete agreement with the teddy bears' grievances and were voting tonight on a 24 hour sympathy strike.

"Blitzen", the president of Reindeer Air-Sleigh Transport Union Local 911 also agreed that the teddy bears had a legitimate and serious grievance, stating that even though his was a small local, the members would honor the picket lines of other unions. "Imagine the horror and insult of naming one of us 'Venison'", stated the irate Blitzen, steam pouring angrily from his nostrils into the frigid air.

Meanwhile, Pope Benedict XVI stated in an exclusive interview that even though he was well aware of the problems both in Somalia and the North Pole, the Roman Catholic Church was not planning to officially delay the celebration of Christmas at this time, although the option was still open.

271 littleO  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:37:55pm

#257
Don't know if your knocking the Pope, or not? Remember though, The Pope is fighting our war on an entirely different plain, than the US or Western governments, could possibly fight.And also, for different reasons. Much different reasons.
Sort of like Pope John Paul fighting , spiritually, against the Nazi's And Communism. It has nothing to do with commerce or the human rights of consumers.

272 hayseed  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:39:53pm

re: #234 Adrenalyn

all Muslims are equal,but some Muslims are more equal!

273 buzzdroid  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:43:02pm

re: #247 Killgore Trout

re: #239 buzzdroid

The Saudi king gave the Pope a sword. It's an odd gift after the Pope had to packpeddle after his statement that Islam was spread by the sword last year. Did the Pope say anything about that being an inappropriate gift under these circumstances? Nope, he smiled and took it.

indeed.

this Pope sure as hell aint no John Paul 2.

very weak. and willing to back down to utter tyrants.

274 nikis-knight  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:43:15pm

Recall the Imams during the cartoon riots who went around with fake cartoons to enrage muslims around the world (who truely are uneducated and easily led). No doubt something similar is at play here too.

275 CyanSnowHawk  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:49:44pm

re: #204 Dotcoman


He was a male prostitute, that's how he made a living before being chased into the desert by an angry husband of one of his clients.

Sounds vaguely familiar.
Ah, I've got it. I saw it on SNL back when they were funny.

"You're spending the night with me! Mohammed Garvin, Male Prostitute!"

276 Farang Kheemao  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:53:47pm

re: #209 tommygum

re: #160 Eowyn2


re: #127 sloggin420

anyone else here name their penis Mohammad?

your penis have a turban?

sorry, it had to be said


No, a helmet.

Wasn't that Twiki on Buck Rogers in the 25th Century?

277 littleO  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:55:14pm

#273
WRONG !
I don' t know how 'Strong' Pope John Paul really was on many different issues. Your right in saying he didn't back down on spiritual issues. Also, though, Cardinal Ratsinger ( Pope Benedit ) was longtime and closest ad viser. Known as the Pope's pitbull. History may prove him strong.

278 6pat6  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:56:13pm

Ahhh, the "wonderful, peaceful, woefullly misunderstood" Cult, er, Religion of Peace...so noted for its "love and tolerance", its "charity and understanding", its...AAARRRGGGHHH!

To the "tolerant" appeasers on the Left --- WTF already? Can't this be the final example in people's minds about what these assholes are all about? Because it sure as hell is NONE of the above, for God's sake!

They are a DEATH CULT, you bunch of damn Lefty fucktards! They want YOU dead, today, now! There is no appeasement to be had here, no negotiations, no pleasantries to exchange, and NOTHING in common with the civilized world except that they breathe valuable oxygen, and breed like damn rabbits!

The only thing they understand is POWER! The only way to get their attention and their "much-desired respect" is to pummel their asses into the ground until VICTORY by the powers of good is had!

HINT to the Leftards out there - They are NOT the good guys! Get that through your thick-assed heads before they cut off YOURS!

There. "...And now, back to Rollerderby"...(apologies to Cheech & Chong)

279 Live4Truth  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 12:58:36pm
...appalling demonstrations from Religion of Peace™ members in Sudan, who poured out of mosques after Friday prayers screaming for the death of teddy bear teacher Gillian Gibbons and brandishing swords and knives

Un-friggin'-believable. This beats out even cartoon jihad for extreme insanity (courtesy of the Religion of Peace™). On the positive side though, this just might be enough -- finally -- to register with some of the more moderate liberal types, that something is seriously screwed up with these people.

280 uptight  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 1:08:55pm

re: #247 Killgore Trout

re: #239 buzzdroid

The Saudi king gave the Pope a sword. It's an odd gift after the Pope had to packpeddle after his statement that Islam was spread by the sword last year. Did the Pope say anything about that being an inappropriate gift under these circumstances? Nope, he smiled and took it.

He should have given Abdullah a whip. Or a teddy bear.

281 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 1:10:16pm

re: #280 uptight

Or a whip and a teddy. You never know with guys that where dresses.

282 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 1:10:57pm

"wear" not "where."

283 Cygnus  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 1:15:56pm

re: #270 Jonas Parker

Breaking News: AP 20071130A5

Teddy Bears Demonstrate! Santa's Workshops Shut Down!

A massive teddy-bear march in the downtown district of the North Pole shut down Santa's workshops today during the crucial pre-Christmas toy manufacturing rush. The teddy-bears were protesting the "cruel and unusual punishment" of a Somalian teddy bear who was unthinkingly named "Mohammad" by an inept teacher from Great Britain. "This insult to all teddy bears of the world must be avenged" stated International Order of Teddy Bears' spokes-bear "Smokey", "even if it cancels Christmas entirely. Teddy bears are soft, cuddly and comforting. To have one named after a pedophile Islamofacist is inexcusable. If this is not stopped now, the next thing to fear is that teddy bears will be contaminated with lead paint from China!"

Santa Claus was unavailable for comment, but "Munchkin", the president and spokes-elf of Elf Toy-makers International Union Local 245 said he and his union brothers and sisters were in complete agreement with the teddy bears' grievances and were voting tonight on a 24 hour sympathy strike.

"Blitzen", the president of Reindeer Air-Sleigh Transport Union Local 911 also agreed that the teddy bears had a legitimate and serious grievance, stating that even though his was a small local, the members would honor the picket lines of other unions. "Imagine the horror and insult of naming one of us 'Venison'", stated the irate Blitzen, steam pouring angrily from his nostrils into the frigid air.

Meanwhile, Pope Benedict XVI stated in an exclusive interview that even though he was well aware of the problems both in Somalia and the North Pole, the Roman Catholic Church was not planning to officially delay the celebration of Christmas at this time, although the option was still open.

Scrooge and the Grinch couldn't be reached for comment.
Theodore 'Teddy' Roosevelt is still dead and has nothing to say.

284 mikerolf1  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 1:18:02pm

The religion of peace... they chop you to pieces!

285 Mich-again  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 1:18:09pm

Cartoons, teddy bears, piggy banks, puppy dogs, bare ankles, handshakes, Korans on the middle shelf, beer, haircuts... I am having a hard time remembering all of the hot button issues that drive Muslims into fits of rage. You know, I am starting to get the impression that just maybe they are a little bit too sensitive about things. hmm.

But wait, according to their religion everything that happens only happens because Allah willed it. So when Muslims get all pissed off about things that happen in the world they are really bitching because Allah F*ed everything up again.

No wonder he's sick of them and keeps them mired in misery.

286 Ezekiel2517  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 1:18:49pm

Do these savages still sit on the UN Security Council?

287 Is it me?  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 1:19:40pm

#224 Uptight
HAHAHAHAHA
Thanks! MPACUK sound pretty panicked to me. They should be.

The MCB have also come out against the sentencing. You can usually rely on them to be whining and demanding concessions (they've been doing it for years), but less so recently. I was curious about why they were changing tack. I suspect they thought they could turn Britain into a sharia happy country because the politicians looked like they were caving (along with local councils and that notorious spitoon Red Ken Livingstone). However, they underestimated us. Politicians are not the British People and this government certainly don't represent us. We have had one scandal heaped upon another recently and if you add that to 7/7, the almost 21/7, plus the aborted atrocity at Glasgow airport and the nightclubs, along with the whining, seething, flag burnings, threats to the Queen and various rioting abroad people are now very fed up and are starting to make their feelings known. There have been biting comments to various stories in the newspapers recently and the overall attitude has become more and more angry.

Americans tend to be more dynamic and excitable than us. We are far more likely to be restrained and cautious in our approach to things but that doesn't mean we don't feel things deeply. We are a tolerant lot on the whole and will go along to get along for the most part. However that doesn't mean it's a good idea to take liberties. Keep shoving, insulting or blowing us up and we start to simmer. I think we've been simmering for some time now. This case in Sudan is just adding to it. I think the strong support for Remembrance Sunday this year is an indication of how we feel. It was a public show of support for the troops and humble acknowledgement of how much we owe to those who fought before. Perhaps it concentrated peoples minds on the fact that our freedom and our way of life has been bought in blood so that we could have the life that we do and that the government has been giving it away against our wishes.
If a head of steam has truely built up then it isn't likely to dissipate quickly. More and more people are starting to speak out publically.
I think the MCB has spotted it and they, like the MPACUK, are doing a damage limitation exercise. I'm fairly cynical so I will view it all with a very jaundiced eye and not believe them, but it should be interesting to watch them swinging in the wind.
The latest warning of a possible dirty bomb in London over Christmas (linked to the nuclear material in Slovakia) will only make people more angry. When I read the story there was no comments section. Probably just as well. The government has enabled terrorists in this country by their weakness and appeasing ways, it hasn't gone down well. We can only hope that nothing happens. I don't want to think of the wrath that will be meted out to the politicians and those responsible if something that serious happened. Watching the Brits finally losing their collective temper would make nasty viewing. I shall hope for the best.

9.20pm

288 rorschach  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 1:22:23pm

Ms. Gibbons was there teaching muslim children. A vast majority of the class voted to name the bear mohammed.

Therefore, according to the wisdom of the "street", all those kids who voted in favor should also be lashed and condemned to die.

It's the way of islam.

289 Creeping Eruption  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 1:22:25pm

re: #286 Ezekiel2517

Well someone has to maintain the flow of anti-Israel resolutions flowing from that august body. Jeez!

290 Live4Truth  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 1:25:03pm

re: #247 Killgore Trout

re: #239 buzzdroid

The Saudi king gave the Pope a sword. It's an odd gift after the Pope had to packpeddle after his statement that Islam was spread by the sword last year. Did the Pope say anything about that being an inappropriate gift under these circumstances? Nope, he smiled and took it.

Good point. Reminds of when the Saudis, earlier this year, gave Mrs. Bush some Muslim woman-covering, especially when considering that they had already gone through a dispute about what she would wear on her visit (and she declared that she would be wearing her normal attire). But, similar to how the Pope responded, I would have preferred that Mrs. Bush had just smiled and then handed it to one of her aids, rather than trying it on as she did.

Seems to me that the Saudis are either: A) Idiots; or B) Intentionally provocative. I'd wager "B," but wouldn't rule out "A."

291 Ron(Ron)  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 1:39:58pm

Adam the Prayer Bear, found on Harry's Place.

But on a more serious note, I'm thinking of teaching little children in Africa and I hear the Sudan is pretty interesting. Any thoughts?

292 Irish Rose  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 1:40:56pm

re: #35 Pass The Moonbaticide

This is all over the news here in the UK.

At last. Now the true face of the Religion of Peace is exposed.
Maybe now the common people can see what has been so clear to us on LGF for years.

We can only hope.

293 GreenSoccer  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 1:47:45pm

re: #250 Ojoe

His latest comments about the right of return of Palestinians to Israel is not appreciated.

294 GreenSoccer  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 1:53:57pm

I'm a little unclear. i thought the kid in the class whose name was Mohammed named the bear after himself. Yet Prager said she taught a class of girls. I think we should be careful about talking about punishing the kids if the kids are all girls. Someone may take us up on the suggestion, women and little women being disposable and all.

295 the Daily Kos Om Islaam  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 1:55:03pm

If I was a British citizen and saw that my government was letting a fellow citizen rot in a third-world prison with lunatics brandishing machetes around her, I'd likely think my country was lacking seminiferous tubules.

296 cagney  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 2:07:35pm

Wonder if this demonstration was voted for by a show of hands?

297 MacBoy  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 2:08:09pm

Despite the machete-waving carpet muncher in their own video, the BBC described the seethe-in as 'good-natured' and the seethers as 'smiling'.

Another Classic example of politically engineered seething, served up just in time for friday prayers..

/Time to Ban Muslim Immigration.

298 cagney  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 2:10:32pm

re: #297 MacBoy

Aye coz they're going to get a chance to lob somebody's head off.

299 Almtnman  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 2:17:04pm

And to think that's the religion of peace...

300 LeonidasofSparta  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 2:19:54pm

BACON-FAT LATHERED BULLETS! Where are they when one needs them. I am most appalled that the Brit Govt isn't moving in with troops and a show of force. Oh. Wait. This is Brown, not Churchill. She's in trouble. Poor soul.

301 gromster  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 2:27:00pm

I try not to launch into ad hominem attacks... but this is beyond the pale. These people are absolutle idiots, frothing at the mouth over anything, no matter how trivial.

I'd rather have a teddy bear named Jesus than an image of Jesus (i.e, crucifix) in a jar of urine, as was done years ago, by some "artist." So these people get no sympathy from me.

I have an old stuffed animal my grandmother gave me when I was about six; it's a dog. I never could think of a name for him before, but I think I'll name him Mohammed now. It would be even better if he were a pig and not a dog, but eh.

302 the_flying_pig  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 2:31:57pm

Anyone who think or say Islam is a peaceful, tolerant religion ought to be committed to a mental institution for the deranged. At once.

Seriously, England should voice its strongly-worded objection to Sudan or "else"!

That "else" is negotiation over cups of tea and crumpets. Jeeezz...

303 mattm  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 2:34:22pm

The Religion of peace, riiight

304 uptight  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 2:37:43pm

I once worked in a Summer school for Saudi kids. The worst behaved, most arrogant little bastards you could ever hope not to meet.

Boy did they look down on the staff!

This of course, was a red rag to a bull for us and we used to devise new ways to wind them up.

The one way to control them, was to threaten to tell their parents that they had disgraced the family name. That shut them up for a while, but eventually they got used to that threat.

Then, one day, I told them "you must be good or Allah will be angry".

Man - they went apoplectic with rage. They were screaming "blasphemy!". Furious.

That was in 1981.

We've all since learned a lot more about the ROP and its paranoia, but back then it was a real eye opener.

305 Timbre  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 2:50:01pm

Ever since I first registered at LGF, I have taken care to differentiate between Muslims and Islamists/Jihadists. I am getting closer to admitting this is futility. There may be some moderate Muslims in the United States, but in Third World places (like Sudan), I really doubt it. This truly is a clash of civilizations.

306 Londonpride  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 2:59:41pm

re: #27 lawhawk

The BBC was underplaying the seriousness of the situation in their report - burying the part about the demonstrators seeking Gibbons' death, and instead claimed that the protestors simply wanted a harsher punishment.

From the BBC front page:

Sudan demo over jailed UK teacher

Crowds march in Sudan to call for a tougher sentence for a UK teacher convicted of insulting religion.

That's right - all they want is a tougher sentence.

Just ignore the lynch mob approaching. They're only seeking a tougher sentence.

Typical of the f***g BBC

307 Londonpride  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 3:02:23pm

re: #35 Pass The Moonbaticide

This is all over the news here in the UK.

At last. Now the true face of the Religion of Peace is exposed. Maybe now the common people can see what has been so clear to us on LGF for years.

To be honest the scales have been falling away from the eyes of people for a while now here in my opinion.

Certainly the comments getting more vocal where I work.

We must all be Islamophobic I guess...

I'm off to don my sackcloth and ashes... NOT

308 Londonpride  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 3:04:30pm

re: #39 Ben Hur

Amsterdam officials commissioning study to determine why Moroccans target city's gays

This month, Mayor Job Cohen commissioned the University of Amsterdam to conduct a study on the motives behind the hate crimes. Half of the crimes were committed by men of Moroccan origin and researchers believe they felt stigmatized by society and responded by attacking people they felt were lower on the social ladder. Another working theory is that the attackers may be struggling with their own sexual identity.

LMFAO - I think the answer is actually a bit simpler than that.

Elephant in the room anyone?

309 pegcity  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 3:05:40pm

re: #278 6pat6

Ahhh, the "wonderful, peaceful, woefullly misunderstood" Cult, er, Religion of Peace...so noted for its "love and tolerance", its "charity and understanding", its...AAARRRGGGHHH!

To the "tolerant" appeasers on the Left --- WTF already? Can't this be the final example in people's minds about what these assholes are all about? Because it sure as hell is NONE of the above, for God's sake!

They are a DEATH CULT, you bunch of damn Lefty fucktards! They want YOU dead, today, now! There is no appeasement to be had here, no negotiations, no pleasantries to exchange, and NOTHING in common with the civilized world except that they breathe valuable oxygen, and breed like damn rabbits!

The only thing they understand is POWER! The only way to get their attention and their "much-desired respect" is to pummel their asses into the ground until VICTORY by the powers of good is had!

HINT to the Leftards out there - They are NOT the good guys! Get that through your thick-assed heads before they cut off YOURS!

There. "...And now, back to Rollerderby"...(apologies to Cheech & Chong)

maybe if a transgendered poets society for the end of the occupation of palistine got suicide bombed, maybe then they could be reasoned with.

310 pegcity  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 3:07:27pm

re: #308 Londonpride

re: #39 Ben Hur


Amsterdam officials commissioning study to determine why Moroccans target city's gays
This month, Mayor Job Cohen commissioned the University of Amsterdam to conduct a study on the motives behind the hate crimes. Half of the crimes were committed by men of Moroccan origin and researchers believe they felt stigmatized by society and responded by attacking people they felt were lower on the social ladder. Another working theory is that the attackers may be struggling with their own sexual identity.

LMFAO - I think the answer is actually a bit simpler than that.

Elephant in the room anyone?


honestly i don't know what else to say for the Dutch other than kiss your asses goodbye.

311 boocat  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 3:08:00pm

They are lunatics.

312 CLLRusso  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 3:15:31pm

re: #311 boocat

They are lunatics.

And real life barbarians. B-52's at 30,000 feet! Remind me again why we give these lunatics foreign aid?

313 moblows  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 3:31:13pm

The mighty Religion of Islam threatened by a Teddy Bear eh?


what a shaky insecure and flimsy foundation this so called faith has.

314 abu_garcia  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 3:53:50pm

re: #267 buzzsawmonkey

"A giant will kill you just to make things simpler."

LOL, maybe there is hope for our youth if they are reading such blunt truths.

If they will just learn.

315 abu_garcia  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 3:57:52pm

re: #305 Timbre

This truly is a clash of civilizations.

I'm sorry, I hate to step on your toes, but NONONONONONONO!

This is a clash between civilization and barbarism.

316 Alberta Oil Peon  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 4:00:56pm

These riots in Khartoum made the noon radio news on the public radio network here in Alberta, said network not exactly being a shining bastion of conservative thought. And they gave the straight goods, too, about how the mobs were baying for the execution of the unfortunate teacher.

This incident may yet have a positive outcome, in that it may represent a jump-the-shark moment for radical islam. They now stand revealed to the world as being completely and irredeemably evil and stupid. And if the MSM media that pick up this story get positive feedback from their consumers, they will run more "evil islam" stories. They are in it for the money, after all. So if your local radio or TV outlet, or your local newspaper runs with this story, take the time to write them a nice letter thanking them for having gotten a clue opened your eyes.

317 gringo  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 4:13:48pm

re: #43 Lizard by the Bay

I am not a violent person by nature, but there is no way anyone in the world can convince me that dropping a cluster-bomb on this crowd would be anything other than a positive step forward for human kind. Does that make me intolerant? If so, I can live with it.

As can I, and I would enlarge that bomb.
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re: #305 Timbre

Ever since I first registered at LGF, I have taken care to differentiate between Muslims and Islamists/Jihadists. I am getting closer to admitting this is futility. There may be some moderate Muslims in the United States, but in Third World places (like Sudan), I really doubt it. This truly is a clash of civilizations.

You may be getting closer, but I'm already there. Tolerance toward these people is suicide.

318 kos eats kittens  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 4:29:59pm

They are just heading to the Roast Beef Cutting Festival. Its a national holiday in Sudan you know.

319 Bleeding heart conservative  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 4:33:27pm

Buy your own Mohammed bear here:

[Link: seattle.craigslist.org...]

320 gerard150  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 4:42:23pm

Another mo bear
[Link: images.cafepress.com...]

321 attentionseeker  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 4:45:06pm
anyone else here name their penis Mohammad?

Uh... No. My purple helmeted warrior (snicker) actually serves a useful function. I have named my ass 'Islam,' as a muslim can serve a useful function (crash test dummy, food-taster for unpopular royals, professor at Evergreen University, etc.).
As Mohammed, on the other hand, has absolutely no use to mankind, that is the name I give my own large, steaming piles of corn filled excrement. When I strain, I say, "Alaaa(grunt)hu akbar."

Yes, I have the maturity of an 8 year old. And?

322 Gringo  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 4:51:30pm

re: #316 Alberta Oil Peon

These riots in Khartoum made the noon radio news on the public radio network here in Alberta, said network not exactly being a shining bastion of conservative thought. And they gave the straight goods, too, about how the mobs were baying for the execution of the unfortunate teacher.

This incident may yet have a positive outcome, in that it may represent a jump-the-shark moment for radical islam. They now stand revealed to the world as being completely and irredeemably evil and stupid. And if the MSM media that pick up this story get positive feedback from their consumers, they will run more "evil islam" stories.
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You just might have an excellent point. This from the SEATTLE TIMES no less.

'Teddy bear' teacher moved to secret location as Sudanese protesters demand execution
KHARTOUM, Sudan — Thousands of Sudanese, many armed with clubs and swords and beating drums, burned pictures of a British teacher Friday and demanded her execution for insulting Islam by letting her students name a teddy bear Muhammad.

323 Gringo  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 4:54:53pm

re: #312 CLLRusso

re: #311 boocat

They are lunatics.

And real life barbarians. B-52's at 30,000 feet! Remind me again why we give these lunatics foreign aid?

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Sorry, can't do it. I have absolutely no idea. Join B-1's to those B-52's.

324 sparrowlake  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 5:26:11pm

Re: 315 abu garcia

I agree. Calling it a "clash of civilizations" is a mischaracterization of the conflict which elevates the Islamists to an undeserved status. These people are not civilized - they are truly barbaric. And furthermore, the conflict is not a mere "clash" - it is a life and death struggle. They want to kill us and take our lands and wealth. The barbarians are at the gates... and we better secure the borders and load the muskets before we are totally overrun.

325 Airedale  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 5:27:50pm
326 siiras  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 5:37:57pm

Hope the non-Muslim apologists for Islam who describe adherents as having legitimate grievances justifying their killing sprees including 9/11 are watching this with their eyes and ears open.

A teddy bear is the latest match to the kindling. Only the most dhimmi existence by infidels, head bowed down, wallet open and struck dumb will satisfy these would-be masters of the world.

As always, Muslims deflect the fault such as it is onto the nearest non-Muslim, in case the unsuspecting British teacher rather than the complainant parents who apparently have not instructed their 6 year old children adequately in the theologic niceties of naming every second boy Mohammed, but drawing the line at inanimate objects.

327 straitcircle  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 6:23:20pm

No education = nutjobs

328 profitsbeard  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 6:29:48pm

Ucking fidiots.

Islam should be confined to the zones it has already demented.

Lest it derange more.

It is clearly not conducive to rationality.

329 EE  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 7:52:59pm

re #315 abu_garcia
"clash between civilization and barbarism"

Here is an article by Salim Mansur, who has written about the defense of civilization. Not a clash of civilizations, but the assault on civilization and the defense of civilization.

Salim Mansur is a Canadian professor, of the Muslim faith, who understsands what the anti-civilization marauders are doing.
[Link: canadiancoalition.com...]

330 EE  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 7:58:43pm

re #329


The war for civilization

George W. Bush stays firm in confronting the contemporary barbarians

December 30, 2006
By SALIM MANSUR
The Toronto Sun

Those who may share U.S. President George Bush's anguish in these recurrent winters of our discontent are not many.

It is easy to describe Bush as a beleaguered president in a war that a majority of Americans now question as the November mid-term election demonstrated. They want an end to the war in Iraq without having to admit defeat.

The agony of Bush is compounded by his knowledge of the enemy.

That and the constraints placed, in a free society within the context of our integrated world, on his office and its ability to wage the sort of war necessary to defeat the enemy.

U.S. presidents Lincoln, Roosevelt and Truman were also reviled in their times and during their respective winters of discontent.

But their circumstances in defeating the enemies of freedom were much different, and less onerous than those Bush has to contend with.

The Confederates were slave-holders, bent on destroying the American Union, rather than give freedom to their slaves.

Despite doubts about Lincoln during the worst months of the long Civil War, the enemy was clearly visible and victory was precisely defined as saving the Union and crushing the Confederacy.

Similarly, Roosevelt and Truman fought the fascist and militarist powers of Germany and Japan who were on a rampage across the world.

Even in the darkest moments of World War II their political opponents could not, dared not, publicly doubt the objective of securing the unconditional surrender of these enemies.

But the enemy Bush is contending with -- while a majority of Americans and America's allies pretend it doesn't exist -- is not merely an alliance of states or a mix of ideologies or a cause that the United States must fight and defeat.

ATAVISTIC IDEAS

The current enemy is the outcrop of a broken civilization of the past, spewing forth from its rotting bowels an endless horde of militants and fellow-travellers, carrying with them the most atavistic ideas about faith and politics that modern civilization, which Bush represents, hesitates to name for what it is.

We have to go back to the declining years of the Roman Empire to find a parallel with our times. Rome had spread civilization far and wide around the Mediterranean basin, but over time it became besieged by barbarians from outside its frontiers and then from within.

Civilization is more supple, hence fragile, than the iron and steel from which it is built. It might be likened to a garden, delicately laid out and carefully maintained.

When ignored or unattended, weeds destroy what human artifice builds with much labour.

Over time, people take their civilization for granted, become careless and unwilling to bear the burden of protecting it. Then its defences are breached, as Rome was, and the city is overrun by those who envy or loathe civilization, bringing ruin in their wake.

Radical Islamism and Islamist terrorism have already made a wasteland of the greater Middle East. Where once a great Islamic civilization prevailed, now, in its place, there so often thrives a culture of bigotry and tribal violence, with their effects spreading outwards across land and sea.

Rome did not know how to defeat the barbarians before they overran her. Those who endlessly fault Bush for the shape of the world visible since 9/11, will one day cry a river if he and his successors fail to save civilization from its present-day enemies.

Michael Novak, a Catholic theologian and philosopher, named Bush "the bravest president" for staying firm in confronting the contemporary barbarians, despite the venom of his peers.

In the dark winter nights, some of us will have prayers for Bush, knowing the difference between what he represents and those who would prey upon civilization.

331 Theologian  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 8:05:32pm

I wonder if they realize, by acting like this, they've elevated Muhammed to the status of a god. If Muhammed were merely human, there should be no reaction to this stupid teddy bear incident.

As they consider it blasphemy, and one can only truly blaspheme against a diety, Muhammed must therefore be the Islamic god.

Of course, he made up the entire religion, so it makes sense.

332 EE  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 8:21:03pm

Predators from the Desert, by Salim Mansur
[Link: canadiancoalition.com...]

What is happening is not a clash of civilizations, according to Salim Mansur, but an assault upon civilization.

333 EE  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 8:38:23pm

I fwould like to suggest a reason IMO that Salim Mansur prefers the idea of an assault against civilization to describe the present mess, rather than a clash of civilizations.

If it is a clash of civilizations, then moderate Muslims may tend to be falsely grouped with the Islamists, and considered as being of the same civilization. That is painful to moderate Muslims like Salim Mansur, who are completely opposed to the terrorism, jihadism, and horrific behavior.

If it is an assault against civilization, then moderate Muslims who are on the side of civilization and opposed to terrorist-jihad are allies in the defense of civilization. That is the position that moderates like Salim Mansur want to be in.

334 ShanghaiRay  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 8:52:58pm

Sudan Muslims - what a bunch of f**king idiots and a-holes.

Praying 5 times a day, protesting and brandishing knives, beating their wives, raping innocent women, genocide etc. the other times. No wonder these heathens still live in poverty and squalor.

335 GreenSoccer  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 9:43:36pm

It is a warning to all teachers everywhere. When you consider that a teacher has a group fo students most of whom have more than 1 parent and aunts and uncles and grandparents and anything you say can be repeated to someone who does not like what they hear...

336 Dustyvet  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:26:20pm

All this b***s*** over a frigging teddy bear?

337 Mich-again  Fri, Nov 30, 2007 11:27:17pm

re: #305 Timbre

Ever since I first registered at LGF, I have taken care to differentiate between Muslims and Islamists/Jihadists. I am getting closer to admitting this is futility. There may be some moderate Muslims in the United States, but in Third World places (like Sudan), I really doubt it. This truly is a clash of civilizations.

I am close to that line of thinking myself. I say make the supposed moderate distance himself from the obvious radical. If they won't even do that, they define themselves.

338 pesca  Sat, Dec 1, 2007 12:06:25am

Britain is showing just the right amount of weakness so that this will escalate in the direction urged by these baying hounds. This is the same government that allowed the Iranian "student" president to pee all over them with the sailor hostage provocation.

339 Mal' Rider  Sat, Dec 1, 2007 12:59:36am

re: #305 Timbre

Ever since I first registered at LGF, I have taken care to differentiate between Muslims and Islamists/Jihadists. I am getting closer to admitting this is futility. There may be some moderate Muslims in the United States, but in Third World places (like Sudan), I really doubt it. This truly is a clash of civilizations.

I think that we have to maintain a balance between standing against a radical strain of Islam, and ordinary Muslim citizens throughout the world.

There is a difference.

340 Mal' Rider  Sat, Dec 1, 2007 1:02:26am

That being said, I also wouldn't shed a tear over seeing the group pictured above in orange colored jumpsuits living in a far away prison (sans prayer rug). . .

/pipedream

341 theheat  Sat, Dec 1, 2007 1:24:01am
”Those who insult the Prophet of Islam should be punished with bullets."

No, people who don't recognize the prophet's followers are flatass nuts shouldn't work in countries full of those kinds of people, and then be surprised when these sames followers go crazy and want their head on a platter. Duh, what a surprise! Not.

So, which presidential candidate has called them out on this? Or, should I ask, how many presidential candidates have called them out on this? I haven't seen or heard of any.

342 Droplet  Sat, Dec 1, 2007 2:36:57am

re: #154 capitalist piglet

These people long ago became a self-parody...but this teddy bear thing has taken it to a whole new level. Ugh. Lord, please help that woman.

I was thinking this as well. Soccer balls? Teddy Bears? A writer couldn't make up this stuff. These people are out of their friggin' minds!

343 cagney  Sat, Dec 1, 2007 3:26:45am

re: #338 pesca

This talk of what Britain don't have the balls to do reminds me of a part of the wiki entry of Field Marshall Bernard Montgomery that dealt with his involvement of the Irish rebellion in the early twentieth century. To quote the text:


... in order "to win a war of that sort you must be ruthless" and 20th century democratic Britain would not do that, and so "the only way therefore was to give them [the Irish] some form of self-government and let them squash the rebellion themselves".

There is no appetite in the UK and to a lesser extent the US for that kind of ruthlessness. It's going to take something big for public opinion to change.

344 Confuzed  Sat, Dec 1, 2007 3:36:47am

Since the Koran advocates and requires violence is many places, there are only 2 kinds of Moslems:

1. Those who do what it says - kill, terrorize, lie, rape, pillage, etc.

2. Those who don't because they either don't know the Koran or they don't follow the Koran.

I suspect many are in group 2, wanting to leave, but since leaving iSlam is a death sentence, they'd just go alone to get along keep their heads on their shoulders.

345 Tamron  Sat, Dec 1, 2007 3:44:52am

#332 EE

Predators from the Desert, by Salim Mansur

What is happening is not a clash of civilizations, according to Salim Mansur, but an assault upon civilization.

I must say, if there is any hope for Muslims at all, it will take a LOT of intelligent thought and hard work by brave moderate philosophical leaders like Salim Mansur, to keep their ship from sinking beneath the waves.

ILLITERACY is a major driving force behind barbarism. Millions of illiterate barbarians are being 'educated', molded and herded around by a small minority of imams who obviously have a coordinated, centrally located international guiding hand telling them what to do, and when to do it. Deliberate illiteracy is one of the primary tools keeping these evil men in power.

Nattering and griping about the millions of illiterate barbarians at the bottom of the ladder won't accomplish a thing. We must look much deeper. What happens to the cockroaches in a dark room, when you open the door and turn on the light?

WHO ARE THE MEN BEHIND THE CURTAIN, WHAT IS THEIR EXACT AGENDA, and BY EXACTLY WHAT MEANS ARE THEY PAYING FOR (AND ORDERING) THIS AGENDA TO OCCUR?

346 ethanxxx  Sat, Dec 1, 2007 6:07:22am

You can't be "Moderately Muslim" any more than you can be "Moderately Pregnant". They should have their tax exempt privileges stripped from them unless they change the wording of their evil little book.
Demmahom Kcuf.

347 landlines  Sat, Dec 1, 2007 6:54:16am

This is the story of the OTHER "Cair Bear"...who spreads excuses for the Muslim outrage du jour...and comforts no one.

348 Tim G.  Sat, Dec 1, 2007 8:05:18am

From paintings to bears...this religion of murder morphs to fast you could be next! Cancel my trip to Sudan.


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