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Fri, Dec 21, 2007 at 10:19:33 am PST

Don Black of the neo-Nazi hate site Stormfront has an account at the Ron Paul Forums; here’s one of his posts, from a topic started by a Paulian who is desperately begging their candidate to: Please Give IT BACK I beg of you.

(Hat tip: Canadian Guy.)

UPDATE at 12/21/07 10:40:26 am:

The Ron Paul Forum administrators are frantically trying to remove all traces of Don Black. They’ve edited his posts, and here’s what you get now if you search for posts by Don Black.

(Hat tip: Thanos.)

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1 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:23:15am

He joined the forum in September, probably among the first few to sign up. Ron Paul!

2 Syme  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:24:05am

Ron Paul can't win. More so when word of this stuff gets out more widely (and it will).

3 Dar ul Harb  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:24:22am

White vs. Black?

4 storagemanager  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:24:34am

Ron Paul for Grand Wizard!

5 Pro-Bush Canuck  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:24:38am

I am LOVING this new Firefox 3.0

Should be officially launched some time early in the new year.

6 RTLM  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:24:58am

Ron Paul will ignore this plea.
/ He can't be expected to monitor and return all contributiona fom

all

controversial personalities.

The wheels are coming off me thinks.

7 RTLM  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:26:12am

...like the wheels came off that coment format

pimf!

8 chinesearithmetic  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:26:43am

When you walk with a Storm, thrust your arm out high

9 Thanos  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:26:48am

Charles, they edited that post down to just the part where he discredits Bill White, there's full text back in the comment threads, check reports. Suggest an update with full text, it's illuminating if you can find it.

10 newsjunkie_ky  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:27:03am

ronpaul MUST go away!

11 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:28:20am

Now, just because Don Black is a regular on the Ron Paul site doesn't mean that Paul is a closet stormfronter.

Just because Paul and Black have been photographed together doesn't mean that he's anti-Semitic and racist.

However, the fact that he does associate with Black and Alex Jones, among others, does raise serious questions over Paul's intentions and who he seeks as supporters.

12 Thanos  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:28:26am

Hint to MSM: "Storming the Iowa Cauci" ... is a good lead in...

13 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:28:59am

re: #10 newsjunkie_ky

I've been saying that for a while - but the GOP really needs to kick him to the curb.

14 Syme  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:29:49am

re: #11 lawhawk

Now, just because Don Black is a regular on the Ron Paul site doesn't mean that Paul is a closet stormfronter.

Just because Paul and Black have been photographed together doesn't mean that he's anti-Semitic and racist.

However, the fact that he does associate with Black and Alex Jones, among others, does raise serious questions over Paul's intentions and who he seeks as supporters.

But that's all it will take. Soon...

15 Dar ul Harb  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:30:00am

That is, white supremacist Don Black is disassociating himself from Bill White, whom, one would assume for the sake of symmetry, must be black.

It's all so confusing.

16 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:30:03am
Please Give IT BACK I beg of you.

Heh. This could call for some popcorn as we watch the decent folks realize what it is they've been backing.

17 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:30:10am

They're already rationalizing how its OK to keep the money. Such delightful people

18 ibrodsky  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:31:25am

Gary Bauer tells Ron Paul sipporters where to go:

To: Friends and Supporters

From: Gary Bauer
Campaign for Working Families

Date: Thursday, December 20, 2007

Utter Nonsense From Ron Paul

The Associated Press reports that while campaigning in New Hampshire
yesterday, Congressman Ron Paul said that if he is elected president he
will end economic sanctions on Iran and withdraw the U.S. Navy from nearby
waters.

I am not surprised. On September 25th of this year when the House of
Representatives voted 397-to-16 to impose economic sanctions on Iran, Paul
was one of the 16 "no" votes.

In July of this year, the House voted 411-to-2 to condemn Iran's Hitler-
clone, "president" Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. The rare bipartisan vote was in
reaction to Ahmadinejad's denial of the Holocaust, while telling mobs in
Iran that they should imagine a world with no Israel and no United States,
because, he assured them, that day is coming soon. The two "no" votes were
cast by Ron Paul and leftwing nut Dennis Kucinich.

Ron Paul says he believes in the U.S. Constitution and smaller government.
Good for him. But those views are cancelled out by his unwillingness to
confront the evil of Islamofascism or to even condemn a Holocaust denier.
This DISQUALIFIES him to be president of the United States.

For those Ron Paul supporters reading this, who are no doubt furious, so be
it. If you want off the e-mail list, so be it. If you never donate
another dime, so be it. If, given his record, you still think Ron Paul is
a legitimate candidate that morally responsible people can support, you are
on the wrong email list anyway.

I only bring one thing to the table with this daily report - my promise to
tell you the truth and that is what I will continue to do, even if some of
you don't want to hear it.

19 Dar ul Harb  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:31:52am

Oh, wait, he's apparently a neo-Nazi.
(Or else it's a well-kept family secret.)

20 looking closely  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:32:15am

#11

All Paul has to do to distance himself from this motley collection of weirdos is to publically and loudly repudiate them. Its easy to send back the checks. . .every other candidate does that when a contribution from an unsavory source is publically uncovered.

It *is* that simple, and its such an easy thing to do, he *ought* to get tarnished with guilt by association until he does so.

21 godfrey  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:32:16am

OT

Don't know if this has been commented upon, but a US Federal Judge has upheld the ban on Tariq Ramadan's entry to the US. Reuters story. Boo hoo, ACLU.

22 Dar ul Harb  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:33:29am

Sort of like the Strom Thurmond lovechild thing.

23 DesertSage  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:33:30am

Interesting that Ron Paul and his followers refuse to distance themselves from their neo-Nazi and white supremacist supporters.

I'm beginning to think that they don't want to distance themselves.
Hmmm?

25 Thanos  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:34:02am

Here's what you get if you do a search on Don Black posts at Ronulan forums now.

Other posters have gone back and edited out where they quoted him....

26 Canadian Guy  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:34:19am

YES!

My first hat tip

Charles, did you also see this

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

27 ec marm  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:34:37am

re: #13 lawhawk

I've been saying that for a while - but the GOP really needs to kick him to the curb.


Kick him to the curb and give him the publicity to start a third party run that could possibly spoil the next Presidential election for the Republican Party? Or let him slowly twist on the vine, being slowly outed, his supporters revealed. I'd say wait until the first ballots get counted.

28 Sharmuta  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:35:00am

re: #25 Thanos

Here's what you get if you do a search on Don Black posts at Ronulan forums now.

Other posters have gone back and edited out where they quoted him....

So ron paul supporters will back away from him, but not ron paul himself. Interesting.

29 Silhouette  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:35:10am

re: #6 RTLM

Of course, that defense only applies to why he would allow the donation in the first place. Yes, no one can be expected to monitor and catch every bad apple as they go through. But once the bad apple has been found be outside sources and pointed out to you, the "I didn't know" excuse doesn't apply. Now you know.

So he trots out "the money is already spent" excuse. As if the donation were in physical dollar bills and not just electronic blips.

As if anyone is the history of debts has ever refused repayment by arguing, "But those aren't the dollars I lent you. Those are different dollars. To pay me back, you have to give me back the exact same pieces of paper."

(alter "dollar" and "paper" to fit era and local currency)

30 Irene NYC  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:35:36am

OT

Michael Yon's got a great new post up.

31 lawhawk  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:35:57am

re: #27 ec marm

No, there's no reason to let him sit and fester in the party. He's little more than a David Duke clone, and there's no reason to let him stick around - especially in the debates where time is precious and there are other more worthy candidates who should have more time allotted to them.

32 NYexpat  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:36:22am

Ron Paul's supporters have as much as admitted that the good Dr draws supporters from all across the spectrum!
To be fair though, I find myself unable to distinguish the left from the extreme right- Anti-Semites, 9/11 troofers, jihadi apologists, blame America for everything, what is the difference?

33 Syme  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:36:54am

re: #27 ec marm

Kick him to the curb and give him the publicity to start a third party run that could possibly spoil the next Presidential election for the Republican Party?

Not if this racist stuff gets more traction - they'll look like bigger fools for (a) not knowing about it/mentioning it, and (b) not kicking him out. They'll have no choice.

34 Athos  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:37:18am

re: #25 Thanos

Just damage control.

The Ron Paul blimp leaking like a sieve and they're trying to patch it with bandaids.

35 TimeQuake  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:37:29am

"The men American people admire most extravagantly are the
most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are
those who try and tell them the truth."
--H. L. Mencken

36 Killgore Trout  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:37:48am

re: #27 ec marm

I think he should have been kicked out a long time ago. Paul and Keyes water down the debates, there's no excuse to allow them to participate.

37 Athos  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:38:24am

re: #31 lawhawk

re: #27 ec marm

No, there's no reason to let him sit and fester in the party. He's little more than a David Duke clone, and there's no reason to let him stick around - especially in the debates where time is precious and there are other more worthy candidates who should have more time allotted to them.

You raise a good point, Buchannan was tossed to the Reform Party - there's no reason to make the same stand today with Paul.

38 RTLM  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:38:27am

re: #29 Silhouette

But once the bad apple has been found be outside sources and pointed out to you, the "I didn't know" excuse doesn't apply. Now you know.


My #6 was an attempt at a Ron Paul parody... ;)
(In my own special way...)

39 Thanos  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:38:43am

We need to find the full text of that Don Black message, someone posted it in comments, they've since edited it down.

40 JamesTKirk  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:38:56am

re: #5 Pro-Bush Canuck

I am LOVING this new Firefox 3.0

Should be officially launched some time early in the new year.

It's not nice to keep bragging about something that the rest of us can't have [yet].

41 Syme  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:39:58am

re: #40 JamesTKirk

re: #5 Pro-Bush Canuck

I am LOVING this new Firefox 3.0Should be officially launched some time early in the new year.

It's not nice to keep bragging about something that the rest of us can't have [yet].

beta can be downloaded

42 Old Buick Tanker  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:40:21am

Why is it that on the page Charles linked to, it shows Don Black as having 6 posts, yet when I look at his profile it only shows the 1?

43 Canadian Guy  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:40:27am

In case you're wondering why Ron Paul is so popular with the Nazis, heres why

[Link: www.njdc.org...]

U.S. Representative Ron Paul (TX-14): Even more shocking than his extreme views on domestic policy is Representative Paul's ardent and outspoken opposition to Israel. As perhaps Congress' most anti-Israel member, Representative Paul consistently opposes foreign aid to Israel, regularly votes against pro-Israel resolutions and legislation, and has repeatedly accused Israel of having a dangerous influence on U.S. foreign policy. On the House floor, Representative Paul has accused Israel of expansionism and the intent to intimidate neighbors and contended that the U.S. is "forced, by domestic politics here at home, to support Israel at all costs." Representative Paul has a 73 percent voting record with the National Right to Life Committee since 1999 and has voted to permit religious organizations receiving federal funds to discriminate in their hiring practices.


Stormfront is happy about that

Re: Ron Paul Revolution - Latest Events

-------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------

Some of us were concerned about Paul's response in the Value Voters Debate concerning the Israel question, even though his answer was consistent with regard to adherance to Constitutional ideals. The following was posted in another thread, but I thought I should re-post it here just to make sure we all understand Paul's position clearly.

[Link: www.stormfront.org...]

What's not to like about this guy

[Link: www.stormfront.org...]

44 Dar ul Harb  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:40:54am

re: #29 Silhouette

Besides, it's all worthless globalist fiat money anyway, isn't it, Ron?
They didn't pay you in gold did they?

/sarc

45 Former Belgian  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:41:03am

re: #40 JamesTKirk

re: #5 Pro-Bush Canuck

I am LOVING this new Firefox 3.0Should be officially launched some time early in the new year.

It's not nice to keep bragging about something that the rest of us can't have [yet].

Firefox 3.0beta2 is available here at the official Firefox site.

46 gop_patriot  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:41:20am

re: #18 ibrodsky

Good for Gary! :) Glad someone in his position has the guts to tell the Ronulans to piss off.

47 Athos  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:41:25am

re: #40 JamesTKirk

re: #5 Pro-Bush Canuck

I am LOVING this new Firefox 3.0
Should be officially launched some time early in the new year.

It's not nice to keep bragging about something that the rest of us can't have [yet].

It's in public beta. Download and try it out.

48 Canadian Guy  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:41:44am

re: #39 Thanos

We need to find the full text of that Don Black message, someone posted it in comments, they've since edited it down.


I have the original from last night. in the ZioNazi thread. I'll find it later.

49 JamesTKirk  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:42:03am

re: #25 Thanos

Here's what you get if you do a search on Don Black posts at Ronulan forums now.

Other posters have gone back and edited out where they quoted him....

Then why didn't you post the original text here while you had it?

50 Yankee Division Son  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:42:50am

re: #43 Canadian Guy


Just like the posts I found over at Vanguard

51 JamesTKirk  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:42:54am

re: #27 ec marm

re: #13 lawhawk
I've been saying that for a while - but the GOP really needs to kick him to the curb.

Kick him to the curb and give him the publicity to start a third party run that could possibly spoil the next Presidential election for the Republican Party? Or let him slowly twist on the vine, being slowly outed, his supporters revealed. I'd say wait until the first ballots get counted.

Even that idjit KOSkiddie acknowledged that a Ron Paul third party run would siphon off more Dems than Republicans.

52 saltmarsh  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:43:39am

:Oh my gosh, looks like you've fallen on your sword, Mr. Paul. Hold still and I'll pull it out.

Ron Paul:Nooooo, it feels kinda good. I think it I'll just project that martyr image thingy for a while. But be honest now, does it make my ass look fat?

53 blutonazi98  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:44:29am

as admiral of the recently established lizard navy, i am wondering when my zionist christmas bonus check will arrive?

54 JamesTKirk  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:44:42am

re: #29 Silhouette

re: #6 RTLM

Of course, that defense only applies to why he would allow the donation in the first place. Yes, no one can be expected to monitor and catch every bad apple as they go through. But once the bad apple has been found be outside sources and pointed out to you, the "I didn't know" excuse doesn't apply. Now you know.

So he trots out "the money is already spent" excuse. As if the donation were in physical dollar bills and not just electronic blips.

As if anyone is the history of debts has ever refused repayment by arguing, "But those aren't the dollars I lent you. Those are different dollars. To pay me back, you have to give me back the exact same pieces of paper."

(alter "dollar" and "paper" to fit era and local currency)

That happened once in a Spider Robinson "Callahan" novel. The thug insisted on getting back the original money, on pain of being killed and dumped in the desert: "Gimme da true-dough, or you'll end up dunes-buried" he punned.

55 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:44:48am

re: #24 lawhawk

OT:
Malaysia government tells Christian paper to stop using "Allah" or else risk losing publishing license.

From now on the paper will refer to the him as "The Moon God formerly known as Allah"

56 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:45:06am

re: #30 Irene NYC

A snippet, Irene NYC...


Where were these press people when the soldiers needed them in Iraq?

Yes, Indeed. Where were they?

57 ornery elephant  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:45:09am

OT

This is almost hard to believe. The Israelis not only allowed a bunch of islamists from Gaza to go make the "pilgrimage" to Mecca, the Israelis even bussed them part of the way there!

And just take one guess who was hiding among those "pilgrims" ?......

Hamas Top Brass Sneaks Out of Gaza To Meet Ahmadinejad and Qods Force Brass in Mecca

58 Syme  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:46:18am

Does anyone know if the only disagreement Neal Boortz has with Ron Paul is the terrorism issue? Can't catch Boortz enough to find out. Thank you.

59 Dar ul Harb  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:46:47am
The Ron Paul Forum administrators are frantically trying to remove all traces of Don Black. They’ve edited his posts, and here’s what you get now if you search for posts by Don Black.

(Hat tip: Thanos.)

Scratch the litter box all you want, it still smells...

60 Silhouette  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:46:47am

re: #38 RTLM

No worries, I got that. But it is an accurate paraphrase of an excuse that they have raised, so I answered it.

I actually agree with the excuse that the photo op of RP and the Stormfront guy cannot in and of itself be proof of RP's sympathies. But with all the evidence taken as a whole, RP is definitely attracting racists (which is enough to look at what it is about him that is attractive to hate), and once RP is informed these folks are his supporters, he is specifically not doing anything to repel them.

61 NYexpat  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:49:38am

re: #57 ornery elephant

OT

This is almost hard to believe. The Israelis not only allowed a bunch of islamists from Gaza to go make the "pilgrimage" to Mecca, the Israelis even bussed them part of the way there!

And just take one guess who was hiding among those "pilgrims" ?......

Hamas Top Brass Sneaks Out of Gaza To Meet Ahmadinejad and Qods Force Brass in Mecca

Just to point out- the source of the article was debka-just sayin'

62 RTLM  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:50:46am

re: #60 Silhouette

re: #38 RTLM

No worries, I got that. But it is an accurate paraphrase of an excuse that they have raised, so I answered it.

I actually agree with the excuse that the photo op of RP and the Stormfront guy cannot in and of itself be proof of RP's sympathies. But with all the evidence taken as a whole, RP is definitely attracting racists (which is enough to look at what it is about him that is attractive to hate), and once RP is informed these folks are his supporters, he is specifically not doing anything to repel them.


There's definitely a pattern here.
The light of day can be a device of MUCH bludgeoning pleasure!

63 Racer X  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:51:42am

re: #18 ibrodsky

In July of this year, the House voted 411-to-2 to condemn Iran's Hitler-
clone, "president" Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. The rare bipartisan vote was in
reaction to Ahmadinejad's denial of the Holocaust, while telling mobs in
Iran that they should imagine a world with no Israel and no United States,
because, he assured them, that day is coming soon. The two "no" votes were
cast by Ron Paul and leftwing nut Dennis Kucinich.

Dinnerjacket wants to wipe Israel off the map. It appears that does not bother Ron Paul (or Kucinich) one bit.

64 Canadian Guy  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:52:04am

re: #49 JamesTKirk

re: #25 Thanos


Here's what you get if you do a search on Don Black posts at Ronulan forums now.

Other posters have gone back and edited out where they quoted him....


Then why didn't you post the original text here while you had it?

I copied Black's post overnight and posted it on LGF

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

65 funkyfantom  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:52:59am

re: #32 NYexpat

Ron Paul's supporters have as much as admitted that the good Dr draws supporters from all across the spectrum!
To be fair though, I find myself unable to distinguish the left from the extreme right- Anti-Semites, 9/11 troofers, jihadi apologists, blame America for everything, what is the difference?

No difference. Both camps contain both anarchists and authoritarian/totalitarian tendencies. They merge at the extremes.

66 Silhouette  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:54:08am

re: #43 Canadian Guy

Representative Paul has accused Israel of expansionism and the intent to intimidate neighbors

I understand they are trying to expand from 1/615th of the amount of land controlled by the arab league to 1/614.99th.

/sarc

67 hazzyday  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:56:30am

Ron Paul shouldn't be invited to these debates if he has this White Nationalist affinity that he wants to acknowledge by saying nothing about it. That is the "know nothing" party from the civil war era. They found their racist leaning could gain a lot of traction and votes if they just remained mysterious.

To the extent that the MSM and GOP national chairman are also silent on this issue, means to me that they give a thumbs up to Ron Paul to proceed doing business as usual.

He is a Republican in the same sense as blok is to belang. The Republican party gives him validity and sullies its own name in the process. Better off to shunt him over to Kucinich and the Democrats or leave him to his third party.

Let Medved run the next series of debates and he won't throw softballs.

68 Canadian Guy  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 10:59:56am

re: #67 hazzyday

Ron Paul is giving neo-Nazis a candidate they can cheer for while watching presidential debates on television. Think about that.

69 Spiny Norman  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:00:29am

re: #43 Canadian Guy

In case you're wondering why Ron Paul is so popular with the Nazis, heres why

[Link: www.njdc.org...]

U.S. Representative Ron Paul (TX-14): Even more shocking than his extreme views on domestic policy is Representative Paul's ardent and outspoken opposition to Israel. As perhaps Congress' most anti-Israel member, Representative Paul consistently opposes foreign aid to Israel, regularly votes against pro-Israel resolutions and legislation, and has repeatedly accused Israel of having a dangerous influence on U.S. foreign policy. On the House floor, Representative Paul has accused Israel of expansionism and the intent to intimidate neighbors and contended that the U.S. is "forced, by domestic politics here at home, to support Israel at all costs." Representative Paul has a 73 percent voting record with the National Right to Life Committee since 1999 and has voted to permit religious organizations receiving federal funds to discriminate in their hiring practices.

That's a non sequitur: how does being supported by the National Right to Life Committee equate to being an Israel-basher/antisemite? I'd be willing to bet Israel's most ardent supporters in Congress score that high or higher with the NRLC.

WTF?

70 Iron Fist  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:00:54am

Ron Paul and his ilk are the main reason I no longer call myself a Libertarian. I won't be associated with them.

71 RTLM  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:01:46am

re: #67 hazzyday

Ron Paul shouldn't be invited to these debates if he has this White Nationalist affinity that he wants to acknowledge by saying nothing about it. That is the "know nothing" party from the civil war era. They found their racist leaning could gain a lot of traction and votes if they just remained mysterious.

To the extent that the MSM and GOP national chairman are also silent on this issue, means to me that they give a thumbs up to Ron Paul to proceed doing business as usual.

He is a Republican in the same sense as blok is to belang. The Republican party gives him validity and sullies its own name in the process. Better off to shunt him over to Kucinich and the Democrats or leave him to his third party.

Let Medved run the next series of debates and he won't throw softballs.


He should be invited to the next debate and challenged by ALL other candidates on his relationships with neo-Nazis.

We could then end his inane drivel once and for all.

72 Spiny Norman  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:01:54am

re: #51 JamesTKirk

re: #27 ec marm
re: #13 lawhawk
I've been saying that for a while - but the GOP really needs to kick him to the curb.
Kick him to the curb and give him the publicity to start a third party run that could possibly spoil the next Presidential election for the Republican Party? Or let him slowly twist on the vine, being slowly outed, his supporters revealed. I'd say wait until the first ballots get counted.
Even that idjit KOSkiddie acknowledged that a Ron Paul third party run would siphon off more Dems than Republicans.

Ron Paul WILL run as an independent candidate regardless. Bank on it.

73 sk  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:02:22am

re: #49 JamesTKirk

re: #25 Thanos

Here's what you get if you do a search on Don Black posts at Ronulan forums now.

Other posters have gone back and edited out where they quoted him....

Then why didn't you post the original text here while you had it?

Giggle. But if one uses the Google search:

site:www.ronpaulforums.com "Don Black"

AND searches in the cache versions of the Google hits, one can find all the posts. For your delectation:

[Link: www.ronpaulforums.com...]

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Default Should we urge the campaign to look into this Don Black thing?
The same set of a-holes who are always looking to attack Ron have a new thing they're pushing.

They claim that a guy named Don Black contributed to the campaign and that this Don Black is the owner of Stormfront.

Now, it seems like this is a pretty common name - there are something like 40 in the state of Florida alone, and that's just among listed phone numbers with the name Don [not Donald or D. or any of the other variations, which would add to the number - let alone unlisted people]. So I'm not sure they even have the right guy.

But just on the off chance that they do, and on the off chance that the campaign isn't aware of the whispering and rumor mongering campaign being conducted, should we request that the campaign look into it? And decline the contribution in question if there is anything to this?
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just drop it. we're at the point now where bad press is best handled w/ a bitten lip biding time.

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74 Spiny Norman  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:05:03am

re: #54 JamesTKirk

That happened once in a Spider Robinson "Callahan" novel. The thug insisted on getting back the original money, on pain of being killed and dumped in the desert: "Gimme da true-dough, or you'll end up dunes-buried" he punned.

LMAO!

75 Lateral  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:06:01am

Love the paulbots words of 'its not true just because someone said so on the net', and then proceed to say that the truth is what they say it is, just because they say so on the net.
I would love for those loons to have to actually live under the cult of the quackster. I bet most of them would be off the doles, and under the gun in short order, especially when the stocks their mommies make their money from fail once the quackster ruins the economy and puts us in a depression with his twisted ideas he took from the dead president on the 20 dollar bill.

76 konservo  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:06:16am

Here's a screen-shot of the Don Black post:

[Link: djkonservo.files.wordpress.com...]

77 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:08:52am
78 konservo  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:09:21am

re: #64 Canadian Guy

That's funny. When you follow the link you posted last night you can still see Black's comment. heh.

79 Former Belgian  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:10:52am

re: #47 Athos

re: #40 JamesTKirk

re: #5 Pro-Bush Canuck

I am LOVING this new Firefox 3.0
Should be officially launched some time early in the new year.


It's not nice to keep bragging about something that the rest of us can't have [yet].

It's in public beta. Download and try it out.

I just did. Would not take any link clicks on my Macbook Pro. Had to downgrade back to 2.0.0.11.

80 Pro-Bush Canuck  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:12:37am

re: #40 JamesTKirk

re: #5 Pro-Bush Canuck

I am LOVING this new Firefox 3.0Should be officially launched some time early in the new year.

It's not nice to keep bragging about something that the rest of us can't have [yet].

Anyone can dowload it from here.

That is beta 2, very near to complete, and very stable.

81 theheat  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:12:51am

More of history's finest revisionists at work. It's always comical when they lay a big, fat, turd on the floor, then try to erase the smell as if it never existed. Fortunately, some of us have better memories than that. Some of us have a keen sense of smell, and I smell dogshit.

There were several posts on these sites, all showing the same lame photo op with Black and his funky son, Derek, who resembled some vaguely interchangeable character from the Children of The Corn movies. (I still giggle his last name is Black. You would think he would change that. What a f'tard.)

No, Crazy Ron, we don't forget that quickly around here. And we can still catch of the whiffs of dogshit that emanate from your Klukker fansites, despite the cleanup efforts. Nice try, you batshit crazy idiot.

82 Pro-Bush Canuck  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:14:00am

re: #79 Former Belgian

Well something is wrong with your setup. Our marketing department people use Macs and Macbooks and they've had no problems.

83 right wing zephyr  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:14:25am

I suppose this just means that there is not now, nor ever has been evidence that Ron Paul is a hypocrite?

84 Silhouette  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:15:55am

re: #69 Spiny Norman

That's a non sequitur

I missed that last part.

I would also bet that they prepostion is incorrect. I would imagine that he "voted to permit religious organizations receiving federal funds THAT discriminate in their hiring practices" rather than "receiving federal funds TO discriminate in their hiring practices." I doubt the funds are to pay for the discrimination as the word "to" would imply.

85 Thanos  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:20:58am

re: #76 konservo

Here's a screen-shot of the Don Black post:

[Link: djkonservo.files.wordpress.com...]


There was quite a bit more about this from Black, but it must have been in one of his posts they deleted. He and Pride were haveing a "what's wrong with Nazis anyway, they make good allies" discussion ala the VB apologists.

I should have copied -- I just assumed someone else did. argh

86 Thanos  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:23:14am

Ha, the cockroaches don't want you to know they are hiding under the stove:

[Link: www.ronpaulforums.com...]

87 Former Belgian  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:23:59am

re: #81 theheat

More of history's finest revisionists at work. It's always comical when they lay a big, fat, turd on the floor, then try to erase the smell as if it never existed. Fortunately, some of us have better memories than that. Some of us have a keen sense of smell, and I smell dogshit.

There were several posts on these sites, all showing the same lame photo op with Black and his funky son, Derek, who resembled some vaguely interchangeable character from the Children of The Corn movies. (I still giggle his last name is Black. You would think he would change that. What a f'tard.)


Actually, in Flemish Dutch, his name would be appropriate. A black person is called a "neger" (with a soft g) in standard Dutch (the N-word would be "n*kker", "roetmop", or some such thing.

A "zwarte" (black one) in Flemish Dutch means a WW II era Nazi sympathizer (after the black uniforms worn by pro-Nazi militias, such as the VNV-affiliated "Zwarte brigade").

88 Thanos  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:25:29am
89 konservo  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:27:27am

re: #85 Thanos

Just before they blocked us out the other night one of the senior members posted that Ron Paul is not a racist, he's a racialist, and a believer in the Holy Books of Creativity (a.k.a. The White Man's Bible). After they blocked us out I realized that I should have copied it and noted who the commenter was.

90 right wing zephyr  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:29:38am

He insists on being called "Dr. Paul" And he is not a hypocrite as his refusal to return this money proves!

/there's not enough sarcasm in the world

91 mich-again  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:37:52am

re: #90 right wing zephyr

He insists on being called "Dr. Paul" And he is not a hypocrite as his refusal to return this money proves!

/there's not enough sarcasm in the world

Not just any kind of Dr. but an Ob/Gyn. I wonder if John Edwards ever sued him?

92 Canadian Guy  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:47:22am

re: #88 Thanos

The Ronulan "Poll Punking Database"

Nice find

93 Lateral  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 11:50:39am

re: #88 Thanos

The Ronulan "Poll Punking Database"

HEY LIZARDS!
Do like a paulbot. Use their own poll links. Show that site to everyone. Use it to get to the same polls they spam, and conterbalance the bots.
Have fun, and and make known your opinion of the quackster.

94 right wing zephyr  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 12:09:02pm

re: #91 mich-again

re: #90 right wing zephyr


He insists on being called "Dr. Paul" And he is not a hypocrite as his refusal to return this money proves!

/there's not enough sarcasm in the world


Not just any kind of Dr. but an Ob/Gyn. I wonder if John Edwards ever sued him?


If so Doc probably had plenty of supporters willing to help pay the costs. What sort of supporters? Who really cares.

95 Pickle  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 12:20:06pm

Christ, what an idiot. Here's a hint to anyone wanting to run as the "candidate of principle" in the future: have some when it comes to running your campaign.

96 tskier  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 1:28:32pm

I'm tired of Ron Paul. Do you think if we ignore them, they might become even more irrelevant ?

97 looking closely  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 1:43:49pm

re: #27 ec marm

re: #13 lawhawk


I've been saying that for a while - but the GOP really needs to kick him to the curb.


Kick him to the curb and give him the publicity to start a third party run that could possibly spoil the next Presidential election for the Republican Party? Or let him slowly twist on the vine, being slowly outed, his supporters revealed. I'd say wait until the first ballots get counted.


He's already made a run as a Libertarian (I believe while simutaneously holding office as a Republican!).

From a Republican tactical standpoint, the question is whether or not if kicked out of the party his seat would stay with him, go to a Democrat, or go to a (real) Republican.

Bad as he is, he's still probably better as a Republican than a Dem holding his seat (or marginally, as an independent holding that same seat).

98 marwan's daughter  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 1:47:06pm

re: #96 tskier

I'm tired of Ron Paul. Do you think if we ignore them, they might become even more irrelevant ?

Let's bash Ron Paul and the people he associates with to a pulp, and then they will fade away. That's why Charles is coming out with a string of Ron Paul posts.

99 looking closely  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 1:56:13pm

re: #93 Lateral

re: #88 Thanos

The Ronulan "Poll Punking Database"

HEY LIZARDS!
Do like a paulbot. Use their own poll links. Show that site to everyone. Use it to get to the same polls they spam, and conterbalance the bots.
Have fun, and and make known your opinion of the quackster.


I'm reminded of the old Madison Avenue truism, nothing kills a bad product like good advertising.

Why help shatter their illusions?

Let them think their candidate is ahead until reality catches up with them. Maybe then they will be so disillusioned with the "political" process, they won't vote anymore.

100 DoubleU  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 3:36:50pm

re: #96 tskier

I'm tired of Ron Paul. Do you think if we ignore them, they might become even more irrelevant ?

No, I think they grow stronger. They are beyond hope.

101 Traveler59  Fri, Dec 21, 2007 8:24:45pm

I wonder what the "Wayback Machine" has to say about this? These semi-techno geek wannabees over at the Ron Paul Support Group don't realize that what happens on the Internet stays on the Internet... forever.


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