I know, they're just burning Peugots,
but I like it, like it,
Yes I do!

Cars are burned fairly regularly in France...?

Is this a specific custom or a practice of a small minority?

Let's see...

Tap Carla Bruni or supress the yutes?

Carla Bruni or yutes?

MMmmm...

I think I'd go with Bruni.

THEY HATE THESE CARS!

/Steve "The Jerk Martin

At least the homeless were able to keep warm.

Once again, the car dealers had a record year.

"The night was relatively calm, without notable incident, there were very few direct clashes with the security forces,” said Bagdad Bob, a recently hired spokesman for the national police.

They left out an important detail.

What are Vandals? some form of Rock Group? Or are these torched 372 cars the work of a social problem?

re: #2 fheddlyjobbins

Cars are burned fairly regularly in France...?

Is this a specific custom or a practice of a small minority?

Nice catch.

Yes, the time-honored Gallic tradition of burning cars, right? As captured in those lines of the Marseillaise:

Allons, citoyens!
Brulez vos Citroens!
Marchons, marchons...

Great idea for French Automotive Manufacturers. Asbestos cars!

Am I a genius or what?

Can you say car-be-que with a fake French accent?

Didn't the French government say they considered 100 C-B-Ques a week an acceptable and even a normal situation?
What would that come out to proportionately here?
We wouldn't put up with it, that much I do know.

At 12:00 a.m. EST, the Interior Ministry said 372 vehicles had been burned — 144 in the Paris region and 228 in the rest of France. That was down from 397 last New Year’s Eve.

Talk about a carbon footprint. Where's the Goreacle stand on all of this?

Do those who light cars on fire ever strike?

re: #9 Occasional Reader

re: #2 fheddlyjobbins

Cars are burned fairly regularly in France...?

Is this a specific custom or a practice of a small minority?

Nice catch.

Yes, the time-honored Gallic tradition of burning cars, right? As captured in those lines of the Marseillaise:

Allons, citoyens!
Brulez vos Citroens!
Marchons, marchons...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA

Well, if yer gonna roast some chestnuts, you gotta burn some cars!

/I really, really, really, really, really, don't like the Fwench.

Happy socialist new year, Froggies!

Cars are burned fairly regularly in France

Well- if the fwench would quit tolerating it, perhaps it would stop.

That's gonna put a dent in their carbon tax credits though

It's just a blip!

re: #3 Ben Hur

Tap Carla Bruni or supress the yutes?

How about, suppress Carla Bruni (gentle restraints, mind you, none of that handcuff stuff), and put double-taps into the yutes?

(I want everything)

Ron Paul on with Hannity right now...

re: #10 BulgarWheat

hey, bulgar!

you ready for our big game on the 7th? all of us transplanted buckeyes here in nc need to have a party!

think they're gonna *choke*? i sure hope not.

re: #11 debutaunt

Can you say car-be-que with a fake French accent?

Oui- eet iz a car-bé-cue!

re: #14 haywood_jay

They don't have jobs...

re: #11 debutaunt

Can you say car-be-que with a fake French accent?

I think it goes something like: "alalalalalala car-be-que". No, wait...that isn't fake French.

If that is how things are defined as "relatively calm" in France, I would hate to see what it takes to be labeled "SHTF".

re: #21 tfc3rid

Thank you.

Citroen out of Palestine?

I've never heard this guy speak... He's a freakin' nutjob...

re: #24 tfc3rid

re: #14 haywood_jay

They don't have jobs...

So you need to have a job to strike in France? I thought striking was a job in France.

#22 blue_like_jazz

I'm ready for the game, but am going to be working down in Palm Beach, unfortunately.

The Gators got tamed yesterday so they should not be too restive when I arrive. Going to wear my old letter jacket and 2008 BCS Jersey, #33. Scarlet of course!

Go Bucks! OH...!
Also the Classic Woody O hat

The steps taken this year included limiting sales of petrol in cans. So, instead of going after the thugs who have repeatedly been involved in the hooliganism, rampaging riots, they cut gas sales.

Ignoring the problem doesn't make it go away. It just makes the violence the new normal.

More here.

re: #30 haywood_jay

Good point!

At 12:00 a.m. EST, the Interior Ministry said 372 vehicles had been burned — 144 in the Paris region and 228 in the rest of France. That was down from 397 last New Year’s Eve.

That's only 25 less than last year. If it continues to decrease at the same rate it will be at least 14 years until the car-bé-cues stop.

re: #23 Sharmuta

re: #11 debutaunt

Can you say car-be-que with a fake French accent?

Oui- eet iz a car-bé-cue!

I gotta git some accents to put on top of my vowels. You sound just like Inspector Clouseau - very cool!

Do they burn cars to lure the firefighters and cops into street battles?

re: #30 haywood_jay

So you need to have a job to strike in France?

Actually I recall... and I'm not making this up... that there really was a "strike" of unemployed people in France last year. I guess they formed picket lines and... worked? No idea.

Oh, and a few years ago, the nightly average for cars torched was about 40 nationwide in France. After the 2006 riots, that number jumped to an average of 100. It spikes on national holidays and yet no one seems all that concerned.

Maybe someone ought to read up on the broken windows theory - and how to clean up the banlieues.

re: #36 Ben Hur

Do they burn cars to lure the firefighters and cops into street battles?

Oh, why do you left-brain rationalists always need a REASON to burn cars?!

re: #32 lawhawk

The steps taken this year included limiting sales of petrol in cans. So, instead of going after the thugs who have repeatedly been involved in the hooliganism, rampaging riots, they cut gas sales.

Ignoring the problem doesn't make it go away. It just makes the violence the new normal.

More here.

I was hoping that Sarkozy could show his mettle and stop the 'Zerg swarm', but I am stuck only dreaming.

re: #31 BulgarWheat

#22 blue_like_jazz
I'm ready for the game, but am going to be working down in Palm Beach, unfortunately.

The Gators got tamed yesterday so they should not be too restive when I arrive. Going to wear my old letter jacket and 2008 BCS Jersey, #33. Scarlet of course!

Go Bucks! OH...!
Also the Classic Woody O hat

SOOO glad the Gators lost (but i always feel queasy cheering for Michigan)!

Good on you for bringing out the OSU wear. I know people here love their NC schools and all, but I don't think the fervor matches what Ohio people have for OSU! I kind of miss going to the mall and having men AND women wearing team sweatshirts!

The night was relatively calm, without notable incident, there were very few direct clashes with the security forces,” said a spokesman for the national police.

Perhaps because the police no longer go to areas where there can be a CLASH? That is certainly one way to cut down on conflict - appeasement through avoidance.

re: #25 haywood_jay

re: #11 debutaunt

Can you say car-be-que with a fake French accent?

I think it goes something like: "alalalalalala car-be-que". No, wait...that isn't fake French.

Wow! That's exactly what it sounded like!

400 car burnt overnight is a relative calm?
i wonder what it takes to have a calm that is not in the family

i also wonder what car maker the yutes like to burn the most.

Police had stepped up their presence on French streets in anticipation of the year-end celebrations and the sale of petrol in cans was banned in some places.

"The night was relatively calm, without notable incident, there were very few direct clashes with the security forces"

I hope the same attitude doesn't carry on over to other crimes in France,such as rapes or murders. It's sad when seeing less of an amount of crime than you EXPECTED TO SEE is declared acceptable.

re: #37 Occasional Reader

Nice, France would be a great place if it wasn't populated by the French. Or the Germans...

re: #32 lawhawk

The steps taken this year included limiting sales of petrol in cans. So, instead of going after the thugs who have repeatedly been involved in the hooliganism, rampaging riots, they cut gas sales.

The perfect (and typical) lefty solution, gas control! Gotta keep that evil gasoline outta the yutes reach, or bad things can happen.

/as usual, completely ineffective, but hey! Its the thought that counts.

If I were a French car, I'd move to Switzerland.

re: #45 WayDownSouthInBama

Police had stepped up their presence on French streets in anticipation of the year-end celebrations and the sale of petrol in cans was banned in some places.

"The night was relatively calm, without notable incident, there were very few direct clashes with the security forces"

I hope the same attitude doesn't carry on over to other crimes in France,such as rapes or murders. It's sad when seeing less of an amount of crime than you EXPECTED TO SEE is declared acceptable.

Like when Kerry was telling to us to get used to the idea of Terrorism...

#26 Oh no...Sand People!

I would hate to see what it takes to be labeled "SHTF".

Propose tinkering with les paquet de prestations sociales.

re: #39 Occasional Reader

re: #36 Ben Hur

Do they burn cars to lure the firefighters and cops into street battles?

Oh, why do you left-brain rationalists always need a REASON to burn cars?!

C'mon, at least I didn't wrtie that they were doing it because they were unemployed and that the French won't ALLOW them to integrate!

re: #37 Occasional Reader

re: #30 haywood_jay

So you need to have a job to strike in France?

Actually I recall... and I'm not making this up... that there really was a "strike" of unemployed people in France last year. I guess they formed picket lines and... worked? No idea.

Too funny!

only 372 cars torched.

Selling Peugeot stock...

re: #34 Sharmuta

At 12:00 a.m. EST, the Interior Ministry said 372 vehicles had been burned — 144 in the Paris region and 228 in the rest of France. That was down from 397 last New Year’s Eve.

That's only 25 less than last year. If it continues to decrease at the same rate it will be at least 14 years until the car-bé-cues stop.

See? Gas contorl works!

/leftard

#41 blue_like_jazz

I live near Cary, NC. The cul-de-sac I live on has 6 homes that fly the Alum and Block O flags out front, that's out of 10 houses.

Not too many car-be-cues down here, but the actual down-eastern barbecue is out of this world!

Paul doesn't see the Dinnerjacket as a real threat... He's toast...

OT

Eygpt lets the Palis go

Analysis: The unholy return of the Palestinian pilgrims

After three days of a tense standoff, Egypt's determination not to allow the thousands of pilgrims returning from Mecca into the Gaza Strip without being thoroughly checked by Israel to prevent smuggling of explosives and cash to bolster Hamas rule finally crumbled and a jubilant crowd surged into the strip.

#32 lawhawk--"Ignoring the problem doesn't make it go away. It just makes the violence the new normal."

Too late, they're already there:

"There is usually an increase in the number of cars torched on New Year’s Eve compared to other days of the year."

Here in Texas, we can usually shoot people who burn our cars. Burning cars is not the norm.

Et maintenant, La Voiture Flambée!

Fetchez la vâche!

/Why are my accented characters munged in preview? They show up fine in the edit box..

#48 andrewtheblacksheep

What makes you think the Swiss would accept French cars?

re: #16 maddogg

Well, if yer gonna roast some chestnuts, you gotta burn some cars!

/I really, really, really, really, really, don't like the Fwench.

Happy socialist new year, Froggies!

Sarkozy is the anti-dote to this. Okay, I hope he is, anyway.

re: #57 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

OT

Eygpt lets the Palis go

Analysis: The unholy return of the Palestinian pilgrims

After three days of a tense standoff, Egypt's determination not to allow the thousands of pilgrims returning from Mecca into the Gaza Strip without being thoroughly checked by Israel to prevent smuggling of explosives and cash to bolster Hamas rule finally crumbled and a jubilant crowd surged into the strip.

I KNEW there was a bigger reason for all the palis to go to mecca...they aren't going to pray...just rearm.

*spit*

how sad.
they are getting used to it. they are getting used to a hideous parasite.

re: #55 BulgarWheat
that's AWESOME! buckeyes are coming down in droves... lots of us over here in charlotte, too.

hardly any good barbecue over this way; nobody cooks it in the sauce! they just smoke the meat and add the sauce later... bleccch.

re: #61 Golem Akbar

Sarkozy is...um, busy at the moment, no?

re: #59 Ezekiel2517

Et maintenant, La Voiture Flamb?

Fetchez la v?e!

/Why are my accented characters munged in preview? They show up fine in the edit box..

Blame the Grey Goose.

If I had to have a french car...
I'd burn it too.
/

re: #35 debutaunt

There's a link under the comment form- very helpful with ze little accents.

re: #65 haywood_jay

re: #61 Golem Akbar

Sarkozy is...um, busy at the moment, no?

Well, he is still French.

re: #52 debutaunt

IIRC they demanded of course that the government "create" jobs. The idea of demanding that the government liberalize the economy so that the economy itself creates real jobs never occurs to them.

The interesting figure was "only" four policemen were wounded.

re: #65 haywood_jay

re: #61 Golem Akbar

Sarkozy is...um, busy at the moment, no?

Yep, if I were at a secluded beach with Carla Bruni, I'd really have to rouse myself to even issue a "round up the usual suspects" at this news.

re: #70 Occasional Reader

re: #52 debutaunt

IIRC they demanded of course that the government "create" jobs. The idea of demanding that the government liberalize the economy so that the economy itself creates real jobs never occurs to them.

A 20-30 hour work week just doesn't help GDP much.

Productivity, productivity, productivity...

/as mine wastes away...

I used to have a Peugeot.

Then I grew up.

#64 blue_like_jazz

I've gone "native" on the barbecue. I was in Austin a few years ago eating @ County Line Barbecue. Huge Beef Ribs. I felt like Fred Flinstone. The owner came out and asked me how I liked the barbecue. I told him I was from North Carolina, and if it isn't pig, we call that grilling out, not barbecue. Tip, don't make fun of Texans Barbecue. They're pretty sensitive about that.

We need to see about getting a Lizard Get-to-gether with Realwest sometime. He's over in your neck of the woods too!

re: #66 Golem Akbar

Owned by Jews.

Exempt from boycott.

re: #72 Occasional Reader

re: #65 haywood_jay

re: #61 Golem Akbar

Sarkozy is...um, busy at the moment, no?

Yep, if I were at a secluded beach with Carla Bruni, I'd really have to rouse myself to even issue a "round up the usual suspects" at this news.

If I roused myself with Buni I would hardly direct it toward some minor skirmishes...

Around here they cook mutton over open coals. I guess in France they can heat up their Brie over a Citroen 2CV.

Sultan of Bruni.

Nice.

Currently reading Mark Steyn's book, America Alone where he talks about "French youths" and their car burning escapades. Europe is doomed!

re: #73 Oh no...Sand People!

Remember '03 the great heat wave?
15,000 died.
It was vacation time for the medicos.

re: #68 Sharmuta

re: #35 debutaunt

There's a link under the comment form- very helpful with ze little accents.

Thanks Sharm. I was feeling all oppressed there for a second!

Hexadecimals! I'm scared!

re: #70 Occasional Reader

re: #52 debutaunt

IIRC they demanded of course that the government "create" jobs. The idea of demanding that the government liberalize the economy so that the economy itself creates real jobs never occurs to them.

Man, I hate to defend the French. I'm really not a fan -- but Sarkozy is trying to do just that. I think the French are ruined, and yes it is their socialism and long-time anti-semitism that are two very real sources of their problems, but Sark and company are trying to turn things around. I wish them luck. No fat lady sightings, yet, but I can hear her singing in French, just around the corner. Hope that the Sark-man can overcome.

re: #75 BulgarWheat

Yeah, Texans are pretty proud of their brand of barbecue. Their brisket is pretty amazing. But give me a good old eastern NC style barbecue sandwich with coleslaw and pickles anyday!

Would love to have an NC lizard get-together! =) There are at least ten of us online.

re: #74 father_of_10

You discovered you had to get to places on time?

re: #4 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

ROFL

i can just picture the powerless fuddy duddy french citizens heaving a collective sigh of relief that at least the torching and mayhem has "stabilized". like it's a weather pattern.

re: #70 Occasional Reader

re: #52 debutaunt

IIRC they demanded of course that the government "create" jobs. The idea of demanding that the government liberalize the economy so that the economy itself creates real jobs never occurs to them.

What morons! Laissez-faire - where'd that come from?

re: #76 Ben Hur

re: #66 Golem Akbar

Owned by Jews.

Exempt from boycott.

I didn't know that. Make my next one a GG. L'chaim.

This unfortunately reminds me too much of the 30s when the average German started to accept greater and greater violence against the Jews. Too much acceptance of this sort of stuff in too small an area. Further, the impact of this on the economics of the areas effected is non-trivial. I certainly would not open shop there. And then we will hear the whine of Islamaphobia. Personally I think it is more Islamaflamable that causes the concern. If you want to stop this stuff, you have to simply play game theory. You raise the negative utility function to be so high that your opponent quits the game. Something that the west has yet to learn since WW 2.

What's odd is how many Algerians escape Algeria to live in France, where they can burn cars nightly with impunity.

Car insurance rates must be awful!

re: #83 Golem Akbar

but Sarkozy is trying to do just that.

Oh, I agree. Sarko is the best thing to happen to the French in a long time. That's why he wins the coveted Bruni Prize.

#84 blue_like_jazz

That's outstanding news. It looks like the biggest concentration is over around Charlotte. reaganite and Anne live down around Ft. Bragg if I remember correctly. I'll look for RealWest in tomorrows deadthread and see what he thinks. I've got his email addy around here somewhere.

new french cars come with lighting instructions.

Does France subsidize insurance premiums, too?

re: #71 Caton

Is that YOU, Caton? As in, the Caton of yore?

re: #83 Golem Akbar

At least he had the guts to tell Syria to rotate it to its maximum dimension and shove it where the sun don't shine. There may be hope yet.

The minute i see some youths preparing to torch my classic, there will be no need to call the police. Call the coroner.

re: #90 Shr_Nfr

This unfortunately reminds me too much of the 30s when the average German started to accept greater and greater violence against the Jews. Too much acceptance of this sort of stuff in too small an area. Further, the impact of this on the economics of the areas effected is non-trivial. I certainly would not open shop there. And then we will hear the whine of Islamaphobia. Personally I think it is more Islamaflamable that causes the concern. If you want to stop this stuff, you have to simply play game theory. You raise the negative utility function to be so high that your opponent quits the game. Something that the west has yet to learn since WW 2.

So what is the negative utility function, here? For every car burned, one city block is closed to traffic? Or?

re: #81 jcm

re: #73 Oh no...Sand People!

Remember '03 the great heat wave?
15,000 died.
It was vacation time for the medicos.

Blows my mind...

re: #94 BulgarWheat

christheprofessor and m (neither of whom i've seen around lately) are from nc; i think real has tabs on almost everyone. he's so great like that!

re: #91 alegrias

What's odd is how many Algerians escape Algeria to live in France, where they can burn cars nightly with impunity.

Well, we get Mexicans who flee to the US, so they can gather in soccer stadiums and wave Mexican flags. Go figure...

Future Reuters story:

Only three EU nations came under the rule of Sharia law this year, down from four nations last year.

“It’s been relatively calm this year,” said an EU spokesman.

re: #83 Golem Akbar

re: #70 Occasional Reader

re: #52 debutaunt

IIRC they demanded of course that the government "create" jobs. The idea of demanding that the government liberalize the economy so that the economy itself creates real jobs never occurs to them.

Man, I hate to defend the French. I'm really not a fan -- but Sarkozy is trying to do just that. I think the French are ruined, and yes it is their socialism and long-time anti-semitism that are two very real sources of their problems, but Sark and company are trying to turn things around. I wish them luck. No fat lady sightings, yet, but I can hear her singing in French, just around the corner. Hope that the Sark-man can overcome.

I'm with you. He's having a tough job trying to re-establish an actual week of work. It's very close to their last hope.

re: #104 eff plus

Post of the day, my friend!

re: #90 Shr_Nfr

This unfortunately reminds me too much of the 30s when the average German started to accept greater and greater violence against the Jews. Too much acceptance of this sort of stuff in too small an area. Further, the impact of this on the economics of the areas effected is non-trivial. I certainly would not open shop there. And then we will hear the whine of Islamaphobia. Personally I think it is more Islamaflamable that causes the concern. If you want to stop this stuff, you have to simply play game theory. You raise the negative utility function to be so high that your opponent quits the game. Something that the west has yet to learn since WW 2.

* * *

Great swaths of Washington, DC our capital city were burned out--just blocks from the White House-- during the 1968 riots following the assasination of Martin Luther King. It was 40 years before taxpaying citizens returned these areas to life & profitability from crime & desolation.

re: #104 eff plus

Future Reuters story:

Only three EU nations came under the rule of Sharia law this year, down from four nations last year.

“It’s been relatively calm this year,” said an EU spokesman.

So true.

Streetjihadi's have burned numerous cars in the Netherlands too.

#102 blue_like_jazz

RealWest is everyone's favorite uncle here. I'd love to finally meet him. He's very good people. CTP lives down near the coast, and I'm not sure about m.

I think I will get off of my lazy and chat with RW to see about us looking into a North Carolina Lizard Fest. I'm sure it'd be an interesting time!

Have you all seen clips from Pakistan when they are calmly beating on cars and busses with sticks?

I never get an answer when I ask: what do Muslims have against motor vehicles?

re: #85 jcm

re: #74 father_of_10

You discovered you had to get to places on time?

Isn't that the truth. Even with the turbo, that POS barely crossed while the light was still green.

Compared with Big Daddy's current ride the Peugeot needed to be fried.

More than 10 vehicles were destroyed in various parts of Goalpara.Paramilitary reinforcements have been sent to the district to bring the situation under control, officials say.

This is how you respond to car torching mobs. India sees 10 cars burned and they send in armed men with real bullets to quite the situation down. France needs to take a lesson.

re: #111 Opinionated

Have you all seen clips from Pakistan when they are calmly beating on cars and busses with sticks?

I never get an answer when I ask: what do Muslims have against motor vehicles?

* * *

Doesn't it ever occur to their leaders to tell the citizenry to "go shopping" after a crisis? Shopping (and productive work & study) do so much more for a country.

re: #92 snowcrash

Car insurance rates must be awful!

Only if you get the flambe' rider.

If we can plan a North Carolina Lizard Get-together, maybe we should coordinate something with a fire department, a training session. They could set a french car on fire, and they could let us stand around it for a little while to thaw out. Then they could put it out.

re: #104 eff plus

[Link: www.tomstockton.us...]

Haha, I like your cynical humor.

Laughing my dogs' arse off, so to speak.

re: #113 Neo Con since 9/11

True, but they did hardly nothing after finding 42 bombs in Hyderabad in one day this year.

And Hyd is in the Deccan Peninsula (the south)

re: #97 Occasional Reader

re: #71 Caton

Is that YOU, Caton? As in, the Caton of yore?

Yes. How are you? Long time no see...

So, how the heck to does it make any sense to randomly destroy cars, when one is "angry"? I get angry, as does everyone on earth, but our response isn't to go out and destroy someone's car. I, um, try to figure out what I'm really angry about, and then try to come up with a constructive solution to it. I suppose that's why they live in crummy, violent slums, and I live in a nice neighborhood of generally decent people. We build and fix. They destroy. We live in civilization. They live in a hell of their own making.

re: #107 alegrias

Great swaths of Washington, DC our capital city were burned out--just blocks from the White House-- during the 1968 riots following the assasination of Martin Luther King. It was 40 years before taxpaying citizens returned these areas to life & profitability from crime & desolation.

South (Central) LA had the same problem, and there are still huge areas of that neighborhood that have not been rebuilt. DC is different, however. It is gentrifying at a rapid pace. Not so much in LA.

re: #116 BulgarWheat

I'm in charlotte. Tell me the time and place.

I'll practice stopping them from laying a finger on my vehicles first, however (:

Police had stepped up their presence on French streets in anticipation of the year-end celebrations and the sale of petrol in cans was banned in some places.

What a poorly written sentence. It almost makes it seem as though car torching has become a part of "year-end celebrations".

372[...]down from 397 last New Year’s Eve.

Comment dites vous...les yutes slacquer?

re: #112 father_of_10

I got a kid hauler.

My question is, why haven't there been any car burnings in Detroitistan or Dearbornistan?

Is it because:

A. There are, but nobody notices or cares.
B. Jihadis are afraid to mess with Detroit homeboys.

re: #120 Live4Truth

So, how the heck to does it make any sense to randomly destroy cars, when one is "angry"? I get angry, as does everyone on earth, but our response isn't to go out and destroy someone's car. I, um, try to figure out what I'm really angry about, and then try to come up with a constructive solution to it. I suppose that's why they live in crummy, violent slums, and I live in a nice neighborhood of generally decent people. We build and fix. They destroy. We live in civilization. They live in a hell of their own making.

You have a strain of something very uncommon these days: Common sense.

re: #120 Live4Truth

Yoo hoo. We all got rid of our wreaths yesterday.

#122 astronmr20

Howdy out to you as well. It does seem like a lot of Lizards are in Charlotte. Great to hear.

re: #123 Sharmuta

No, I think they got it right...

I have to ask...

1. If a night is "relatively calm" when 372 cars are burned,and the burning of those cars is not considered a "notable incident",how can they expect this kind of attitude to deter terrorists from future acts?

2. Doesn't this attitude,by default,already conceded defeat in fighting terrorism?

3. How can law abiding citizens continue to support a government that stands by while thugs burn their property and declare the results not to be a "notable incident" because "there were few direct clashes with the security forces"?

4. Doesn't the law abiding citizen EXPECT the security forces to clash with criminals or have they reached the point they also expect to see these results?

re: #123 Sharmuta

This is contradictory. I remember more than one article explainig how there were over 70 neighborhoods/ series of blocks that the police would not even go now.

\meaning, there are over 70 areas in France not under French control.

re: #126 Alouette

Cops here would crack some skulls, and fast.

Out of sheer curiosity, what is the religious affiliation of said yutes?

re: #134 rightside

lol

re: #128 debutaunt

re: #120 Live4Truth

Yoo hoo. We all got rid of our wreaths yesterday.

Not everyone. For some of us (dating back hundreds of years) Christmas started on the 25th, and goes to Epiphany. :)

re: #125 jcm

re: #112 father_of_10

I got a kid hauler.

Mother_of_10 has the kid hauler here. She says she is destined to be buried in a BMW (Big Mormon Wagon).

re: #60 BulgarWheat

#48 andrewtheblacksheep

What makes you think the Swiss would accept French cars?

I heard this story about the differences between Heaven and Hell. In Heaven: the British are the police, the French are the cooks, the Italians are the lovers, the Swiss are the managers, and the Germans build the cars.

In Hell; the French build the cars, the British are the cooks, the Italians are the managers, the Swiss are the lovers, and the Germans are the police.

I heard Fwance was burning. I'm calm about that too.

The Coq au Champagne is coming home to roost.

re: #131 WayDownSouthInBama

I have to ask...

1. If a night is "relatively calm" when 372 cars are burned,and the burning of those cars is not considered a "notable incident",how can they expect this kind of attitude to deter terrorists from future acts?

2. Doesn't this attitude,by default,already conceded defeat in fighting terrorism?

3. How can law abiding citizens continue to support a government that stands by while thugs burn their property and declare the results not to be a "notable incident" because "there were few direct clashes with the security forces"?

4. Doesn't the law abiding citizen EXPECT the security forces to clash with criminals or have they reached the point they also expect to see these results?

Car becues are to France as Illegal Immigrants are to US Officials.

"It was 'relatively calm' on America's southern border this year, only 5 million illegal immigrants crossed over this year versus 5.1 million illegals last year."

re: #134 rightside

Out of sheer curiosity, what is the religious affiliation of said yutes?

Racist of you to even ask.
For shame.
/

Comment, bebe, light my Le Car.

IDK if others have said this, but can you imagine if that was happening in NY, Chicago, L, DC or any other big city in US? Only 372 cars - a quiet night - whoa!

There is usually an increase in the number of cars torched on New Year’s Eve compared to other days of the year.

At 12:00 a.m. EST, the Interior Ministry said 372 vehicles had been burned — 144 in the Paris region and 228 in the rest of France. That was down from 397 last New Year’s Eve

I remember growing up in the Down River Area with Detroit just over the draw bridge spanning the Rouge River. The two most interesting nights of the year was Devil's Night (Oct 30 night to Oct 31 morning) and New Years. Devil's night kids were arrested for being out past curfew(6 pm or sun set), police units went up and down streets and alleys with spot lights, and the aftermath could be seen on the morning news. New Years always went off with drunken assholes shooting their guns off into the air. It got so bad a couple years mom insisted us kids sleep on the floor in the living room while mom and dad stayed up untill the idiots stopped celebrating. After awhile the fires shrank in number and any idiot on New Years shooting his gun off drew an instant police response. Though the incedents have shrunk in number the citizen volunteers and police presence hasn't.

I think the Democarats are planning to reduce green-house gas emissions by bringing a few million French Moslems over here to burn some SUV's.

the failure of the french to do anything abt this anarchy in their own country, is one of the most annoying and frustrating things going on in the world right now, ( at least for me.) how long have these animals been rampaging. will they be stopped when they start killing people? have the french even thought abt. drawing the line somewhere?

#138 geekasaurus

Heh! Now that's a good one.

re: #134 rightside

Out of sheer curiosity, what is the religious affiliation of said yutes?

upbupbup...don't ask.

re: #138 geekasaurus

Well, the Swiss are not entirely horrible lovers.

However, being Italian, I'll agree.

(:

re: #120 Live4Truth

So, how the heck to does it make any sense to randomly destroy cars, when one is "angry"?

"Anger" is, at most, a feeble excuse. The riots in Villiers-Le-Bel, triggered by two Yutes crashing into a police car while speeding on a stolen motorcycle, were organized by "grands frères", bearded Muslims in their forties ordering the Yutes around. In other words, the "spontaneous riot" was planned in advance, just waiting for an excuse.

What those torching are doing is driving the non-Muslims out of those areas. I expect those areas to declare their independence, à la Kosovo, with support from the U.S. and the E.U., in the next few years.

re: #137 father_of_10

There's a Ford van running around these parts. License reads; 10 OF US.

Of course they burned extra cars on New Years Eve. The infidels must be punished for daring to celebrate infidel holidays.

re: #136 Live4Truth

OK. Carry on - it is quite cheerful.

re: #130 haywood_jay

The french have grown accustomed to this behavior. #132 astronmr20 is right- certain neighborhoods, ze police won't even patrol. Like I said in my # 17- this will continue until the french decide to no longer tolerate this behavior, and I'm not going to hold my breath to see when that will be.

I guess complacency is better than the British response which was to get "pissed".

re: #112 father_of_10

Cadillac is finally producing cars that don't make ME want to burn them. I like the sexy babe commercials too.

I'd rather have a car in Fallujah than in Paris.

Rioters? No no silly lizards. All of those cars have been torched by their owners who are all pumped up over this year's Toyotathon clearance sale! At least that's what I've been led to understand in every other commercial during the bowl games.

I sure hope these kids don't get radicalized. yes, they are burning cars, but it's not really a "jihad motivation" at this point.

yet.

Anyone know anything about mosques in these areas?

re: #126 Alouette
I think Americans are in love with cars! Also my origional question about auto insurance rates.

re: #160 snowcrash

We certainly are. Wouldn't have it any other way!

re: #8 Straitcircle

What are Vandals? some form of Rock Group? Or are these torched 372 cars the work of a social problem?

You would think it's the cause of the east-germanic tribe the vandals but i think it's actually another tribe, the north african of origin the barbarians

re: #153 debutaunt

re: #136 Live4Truth

OK. Carry on - it is quite cheerful.

Glad you like it. I promise to take it down on Epiphany...

re: #151 jcm

I've recently seen that one in Oregon heading northbound on I-205.

#156 maddogg

My brother in law just got a brand new CTS. A company car at that, and he doesn't work in the automotive industry. My company complains about cell bills above $100. What a world.

The CTS is sweet.

re: #75 BulgarWheat

#64 blue_like_jazz

Tip, don't make fun of Texans Barbecue. They're pretty sensitive about that.

In Texas; Barbecue IS religion; the religion of beef (RoB).

#157 Ben Hur

That's rotating title material, or at least bumper sticker worthy!

Smoke weed, not cars.

re: #160 snowcrash

re: #126 Alouette
I think Americans are in love with cars! Also my origional question about auto insurance rates.

I get it! The French hate their crappy cars and offer them up for bonfires. It's good all around.

re: #159 astronmr20

I sure hope these kids don't get radicalized. yes, they are burning cars, but it's not really a "jihad motivation" at this point.

The motivation is there, it's just that there aren't enough Yutes yet.

re: #165 BulgarWheat

I gotta say the new CTS is a guilty peasure/ desire.

re: #141 jcm

re: #134 rightside

Out of sheer curiosity, what is the religious affiliation of said yutes?

Racist of you to even ask.
For shame.
/

Pennsylvania Dutch.

#166 geekasaurus

Yep, that was pointed out to me in very clear to understand language.

re: #150 Caton

re: #120 Live4Truth

So, how the heck to does it make any sense to randomly destroy cars, when one is "angry"?

"Anger" is, at most, a feeble excuse. The riots in Villiers-Le-Bel, triggered by two Yutes crashing into a police car while speeding on a stolen motorcycle, were organized by "grands fr?s", bearded Muslims in their forties ordering the Yutes around. In other words, the "spontaneous riot" was planned in advance, just waiting for an excuse.

What those torching are doing is driving the non-Muslims out of those areas. I expect those areas to declare their independence, ?a Kosovo, with support from the U.S. and the E.U., in the next few years.

A significant point you just made.

re: #170 Caton

it only takes one with a bomb.

haven't seen that yet from these communities specifically.

re: #154 Sharmuta

Given their recent history..."not holding your breath" would be a prudent choice.

re: #163 Live4Truth

re: #153 debutaunt

re: #136 Live4Truth

OK. Carry on - it is quite cheerful.

Glad you like it. I promise to take it down on Epiphany...

What the heck. Leave it up all year.

re: #119 Caton

re: #97 Occasional Reader

re: #71 Caton

Is that YOU, Caton? As in, the Caton of yore?

Yes. How are you? Long time no see...

All's well, thanks. Where've you been hiding?

372 cars in one night, and a regular occurrence, to boot?

Who pays the insurance bill for all these burned cars?

.

Burning cars? Angry youths? Possibly immigrants? Aww shit! It sounds like [removed] supporters of militant [removed] bent on waging [removed] in Europe! The war on [removed] is over, but why are the [removed] still committing violence in the name of [removed]?

Censorship courtesy of the United Nations and the Democratic National Committee who want you all to feel warm and comfortable in 2008!

Happy New Year LGF! :-D

re: #169 debutaunt

re: #160 snowcrash

re: #126 Alouette
I think Americans are in love with cars! Also my origional question about auto insurance rates.

I get it! The French hate their crappy cars and offer them up for bonfires. It's good all around.

No, it's a conspiracy by the grande americain auto makeers to get a foothold into europe with their imperialistic vehicles.

Ces Français sont maladroits. Français aimés leur voitures sur le feu!

Firebrids would be apropos. But I do not think the average French-person could afford them. There are downsides to socialism.

re: #11 debutaunt

Can you say car-be-que with a fake French accent?

why yes, yes i can!

did i ever tell you lizards that france smells like urine? yep. it does.

what do you expect in a country where men and boys just whip it out and pee wherever they like? on a tree like a dog. on the side of a building. where. ever. they. want.

re: #175 astronmr20

re: #170 Caton

it only takes one with a bomb.

haven't seen that yet from these communities specifically.

I see you don't remember the 1995 bombings.

re: #176 haywood_jay

Maybe if they'd just elect the fascists...

/

re: #178 Occasional Reader

re: #183 Kirly

re: #11 debutaunt

Can you say car-be-que with a fake French accent?

why yes, yes i can!

did i ever tell you lizards that france smells like urine? yep. it does.

what do you expect in a country where men and boys just whip it out and pee wherever they like? on a tree like a dog. on the side of a building. where. ever. they. want.

You mean, there aren't any piss-boys?!?!?!?!

re: #174 formercorpsman

The Fwench. "Putting the balk in Balkanization."

re: #182 Straitcircle

Ces Fran%uFFFDs sont maladroits. Fran%uFFFDs aim%uFFFDleur voitures sur le feu!

Firebrids would be apropos. But I do not think the average French-person could afford them. There are downsides to socialism.

Firebirds! HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAAHAA

#183 Kirly

Uh, Kirly, one of the great things about being a guy is that the entire world is our toilet. When my wife asks me why I pee standing up, I tell her it's because I can.

heh

re: #178 Occasional Reader

All's well, thanks. Where've you been hiding?

In hospital. 'nuff said.

Torching 372 cars is on New Years Eve is becoming accepted as 'calm', while the police putting down the rioters using the usual riot suppression methods is decried as police state oppression.

This is because liberals and there Mo-dog worshiping friends really are just anti-authority, anarchy-supporting, narcissists.

re: #172 VegasRick

They actually like to bowl.

Over the weekend, we took the kids out Saturday night.

Two of them were there, had a 12 pack of Bud Lite, and throwing the gutter.

They do attempt to dress somewhat out of character, but it is still obvious.

re: #2 fheddlyjobbins

Cars are burned fairly regularly in France...?

Is this a specific custom or a practice of a small minority?

French toast.

re: #184 Caton

But does the GIA have the sympathies of these kids? Are they recruiting them? Does the GiA still exist?

I'd really like to see an article/ essay/ study on what "sort" of radicalization is happening with these communities specifically.

re: #187 Ben Hur

It's the same in india.

re: #171 astronmr20

re: #165 BulgarWheat

I gotta say the new CTS is a guilty peasure/ desire.

I've had a '53, a '69, a '70, a '77, an '01 and now an '08. Only the last one was bought new. I drove the '53 while in High School in '75. It was very cool!

re: #159 astronmr20
I think your concerns are well-founded. This kind of sustained lawlessness and destruction of private property is ultimately the kind of violence that can destroy the existing social and legal fabric of entire neighbourhoods. Then it will be much easier for the Jihadists to take control of these slums and convert them into radical Islamist fiefdoms.

re: #196 astronmr20

re: #187 Ben Hur

It's the same in india.

Ahhh...Yes.

But with #2.

re: #191 Caton

re: #178 Occasional Reader

All's well, thanks. Where've you been hiding?

In hospital. 'nuff said.

Ah. Well, that is definitely, ah, not fun, I'm sure. I hope you're back to health.

Me, I got married. That's my big news since we last spoke.

#197 father_of_10

Glad to see Detroit starting to hit 'em out of the park for a change.

re: #200 Occasional Reader

re: #191 Caton

re: #178 Occasional Reader

All's well, thanks. Where've you been hiding?

In hospital. 'nuff said.

Ah. Well, that is definitely, ah, not fun, I'm sure. I hope you're back to health.

Me, I got married. That's my big news since we last spoke.

Ah. Well, that is definitely, ah, not fun, I'm sure. I hope you're back to health.

re: #198 sparrowlake

Then it will be much easier for the Jihadists to take control of these slums and convert them into radical Islamist fiefdoms.

Already happening.

re: #202 Ben Hur

YOU INSULT MAH WOMAN? I KEEL YOU!

re: #195 astronmr20

re: #184 Caton

But does the GIA have the sympathies of these kids? Are they recruiting them? Does the GiA still exist?

The GIA is now called "Al-Qaeda in Maghreb", it still exists, and the Yutes are actively recruited in the mosques.

I'd really like to see an article/ essay/ study on what "sort" of radicalization is happening with these communities specifically.

You won't find one -- but there's one thing: Sarkozy has helped radical mohameddans take control of the "official" mohammeddanism in France, and is now talking about "positive laicity", i.e. public funding for mohammeddanism.

re: #198 sparrowlake

Agreed;

I'd say it's long overdue in fact.

This is general lawlessness; yes these are Algerians, yes they were likely born into "Muslim" families, yes they are destroying property (and raping from what I understand) however this is nothing compared to what they can do if brainwashed by the right people.

re: #201 BulgarWheat

#197 father_of_10

Glad to see Detroit starting to hit 'em out of the park for a change.

It has been a long time coming. Finally we have first-string of American-Made cars that can really compete with the finest German/Japanese stuff. I personally think my STS is better than a Mercedes or a Lexus. It is certainly faster . . . and not as expensive.

re: #203 Occasional Reader

re: #198 sparrowlake

Then it will be much easier for the Jihadists to take control of these slums and convert them into radical Islamist fiefdoms.

Already happening.

When the local constables have no-go zones, I think its a done deal.

re: #199 Ben Hur

Now THAT I did not see while in India.

re: #200 Occasional Reader

Me, I got married. That's my big news since we last spoke.

I got a divorce, too :-)

If this was a good night I think that the French have set the bar pretty low.
Sounds like a job for Inspector Clusseau. He can track down ze troubled youts and give ze stern lecture, no? he can then increase their public assistance

re: #204 Occasional Reader

;)

They probably just ran out of cars.

Let's face it, if you in one of those Franco-Islamic hell holes like Clichy-sur-Bois. you are hardly going to park your car there over New Year.

re: #210 astronmr20

re: #199 Ben Hur

Now THAT I did not see while in India.

LOL!

They probably just ran out of cars.

Let's face it, if live you in one of those Franco-Islamic hell holes like Clichy-sur-Bois. you are hardly going to park your car there over New Year.

re: #203 Occasional Reader

re: #198 sparrowlake

Then it will be much easier for the Jihadists to take control of these slums and convert them into radical Islamist fiefdoms.

Already happening happened.

Fixed it for you.

Maybe it's much too hot in the flames
Ooh, but I thought I'd ask you just the same
What are you burning New Year's eve?

re: #26 Oh no...Sand People!

If that is how things are defined as "relatively calm" in France, I would hate to see what it takes to be labeled "SHTF".

For want of anything better to say, that about sums it up for me.

re: #192 alteredbeat

Torching 372 cars is on New Years Eve is becoming accepted as 'calm', while the police putting down the rioters using the usual riot suppression methods is decried as police state oppression.

This is because liberals and there Mo-dog worshiping friends really are just anti-authority, anarchy-supporting, narcissists.

I'll agree with you on the narcissism, but islam is hardly anti-authoritarian or anarchy-supporting.

re: #204 Occasional Reader

re: #202 Ben Hur

YOU INSULT MAH WOMAN? I KEEL YOU!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHA

re: #217 Caton

has it, though?

Source?

OT

Canadian Health (s)care.

VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - A Surrey woman's holiday in California has turned into a healthcare nightmare. The 68-year old needed emergency surgery after her appendix burst, but now she can't come home due to a lack of hospital beds.

[snip]

Stephen Harris with the South Fraser Health Region says the issue is a shortage of ventilated intensive care unit beds,...

Hillary (s)care preview.

re: #224 jcm

Iowans-

get out and defeat Hildebeast!

Try lighting up some homeboy's ride in an American "no-go" zone and see what happens.

On the other hand, how many cars were torched in LA when the Rodney King verdict was announced?

How did that happen? Where were the owners of those cars? iN the house hiding under the bed?

Homeboy's cars do not get torched because the homeboy will "nine" you for it. No one is going to torch your car if they think you will come out and shoot you. However, if you KNOW that the owner is unarmed AND afraid, then what's stopping you?

I'll tell you one OT thing, though.

I'm not gonna miss Courage's Texas election analogies.

The race between Hillary and Obama is tighter than a reconstructed hymen in London.

re: #227 Ben Hur

LOL

Where can we hear him, though? He's retired, ain't he?

re: #223 astronmr20

re: #217 Caton

has it, though?

Source?

Barbarians at the Gate of Paris

(and mind you, this is 5 years old)

re: #227 Ben Hur

I'll tell you one OT thing, though.

I'm not gonna miss Courage's Texas election analogies.

The race between Hillary and Obama is tighter than a reconstructed hymen in London.

Analogy warning!

Retired? Semi.

Retarded? Fully.

re: #205 Caton

Sarkozy has helped radical mohameddans take control of the "official" mohammeddanism

Never heard this. Please explain.

re: #226 father_of_10

As someone who is in LA three or four days a week, I agree wholeheartedly. No way that LA will go "yout" on us for a few years yet.
Dearbornistan, maybe.

You so much as lean on someone's 22" gold-plated spinners and you'll be headed to the trauma center.

I can't help but feel that the "auto-dealers" are behind this thuggery.

Once upon a time I owned a French car. A Renault, LeCar and if I lived in France while I owned it I would have torched it too. It was so troublesome they should have named it a LeCrap. So if French cars haven't improved since then they might be just burnin their own French piece of crap.

re: #225 astronmr20

re: #224 jcm

Iowans-

get out and defeat Hildebeast!

You'll like this one:

"I will not forget all of the faces and the stories that I have seen and heard as I have crisscrossed Iowa. You will have a president who wakes up every day worrying about how to make your lives better; how to give you the tools to shape your own destiny and fulfill your own version of the American dream."

re: #220 Sharmuta

WTF does narcissism have to do with it?
First they need to destroy what's there.
Then the Caliphate phoenix can rise from the ashes.

re: #227 Ben Hur

I'm sure there's tighter, though. Like a ducks arse underwater, for one. Or Britney...

Tell you what, I'll leave it there.

re: #158 mfarmer1

Rioters? No no silly lizards. All of those cars have been torched by their owners who are all pumped up over this year's Toyotathon clearance sale! At least that's what I've been led to understand in every other commercial during the bowl games.

Haha, that was the first thing I thought of too!

re: #229 Occasional Reader

Good article...

But I don't see anything about Jihad in there. They hate france, they are unopposed, they are violent and ungrateful little bastards.

islamic radicalization would be the final piece of the puzzle, however, but the way they act they don't seem like they might take to a religious "authority."

Maybe I'm wrong.

if someone heard cries of Allahu Akbar while the torching happens, I'd like to know about it.

Update - Lewisville Police tactical officers closing in on the honor killing cabbie from Irving

Moustafa, Infidel Wife and Haram Puppy Posing beside their Auto-Mobile.

Later that evening, Moustafa's sons Barack, Adhnan, Achmed, Yousef, Balaal, Mohammed, Aamir, Ghazi, Ghusun, Obaid, Mafhuz, Qahtan, Quasseem, Tahmeed and Rafeek would explain that someone gave them a dirty look, forcing them to torch daddy's car.

re: #235 jcm

Forget foosball. Hillary is the devil. - Mama

re: #236 sparrowlake

WTF does narcissism have to do with it? Gee- they think the world revolves around them, maybe?

re: #235 jcm

oh brother.

re: #206 Rodan

Car burning is part of Islamic heritage.
The French being enlighetened.
We could learn from them.
that's what the Leftists will say.

I say the French need a 21st century sounding of the olifant!

Montjoie!

re: #220 Sharmuta

re: #192 alteredbeat

Torching 372 cars is on New Years Eve is becoming accepted as 'calm', while the police putting down the rioters using the usual riot suppression methods is decried as police state oppression.

This is because liberals and there Mo-dog worshiping friends really are just anti-authority, anarchy-supporting, narcissists.

I'll agree with you on the narcissism, but islam is hardly anti-authoritarian or anarchy-supporting.

it may look like chaos but the violence is usually directed,and controlled by one segment or another.

re: #190 BulgarWheat

#183 Kirly

Uh, Kirly, one of the great things about being a guy is that the entire world is our toilet. When my wife asks me why I pee standing up, I tell her it's because I can.

heh

yes, yes, i know. but, American men have he good sense to at least make an attempt to be somewhat discreet about it. not the french. the literally just whip it out any place they want. regardless of the number of other people around. they don't even try to be discreet! pissers!

re: #240 Ward Cleaver

And here is the money shot:

"Police say they are looking into the possibility that the father was upset with his daughters dating activities.

"It's something well worth looking into," said OFC David Tull of Irving Police.""

re: #234 edfeeney

Mate, I wouldn't touch a Frog car. They're great right up to the point where they have their first hiccup. Then it's going to cost you. It's cheaper in the long run to use the fucking thing to toast your marshmallows and then use the insurance payout ot buy a proper motor.

Manhunt for Father Suspected of Killing Teen Girls

re: #248 Kirly

I caught my husband peeing on the fence. Next to the dog. I asked "why". The answer: "Because I can".

I sense an LGF post on this "father" shortly.

The French restricted the sale of gas in cans and therefor were able to lower the number of cars burned this year compared to years past? That sounds so progressive. Perhaps they can import some non-flammable camel and large sheep in the coming years.

re: #249 astronmr20

In this country, a guy fools around with someone's daughter, daddy grabs the shotgun and a parson, and arranges a marriage.

re: #232 Occasional Reader

re: #205 Caton

Sarkozy has helped radical mohameddans take control of the "official" mohammeddanism

Never heard this. Please explain.

Sarkozy pushed for the creation of the "Conseil francais du culte musulman", which is supposed to represent mohammeddans in France. Strangely enough, the elected "representatives" are mostly radicals... and mostly linked to the former GIA (now called "Al-Qaeda in Maghreb"). The CFCM is supposed to represent mohammeddanism in all discussions with the French gov't. What does that tell you?

re: #250 Wishbone

re: #234 edfeeney

Mate, I wouldn't touch a Frog car. They're great right up to the point where they have their first hiccup. Then it's going to cost you. It's cheaper in the long run to use the fucking thing to toast your marshmallows and then use the insurance payout ot buy a proper motor.

gotta agree,when one thinks of the great automobile manufacturing nations,well,fwance doesn't exactly spring to mind.

re: #256 Caton

Interesting.

re: #258 taxfreekiller

I was anticipating a "suicide by cop" as well, but something tells me this coward piece of shit won't have the balls.

re: #258 taxfreekiller

Don't forget the wonders of the taser.

re: #261 konservo

Don't taze me, Mo!

(AFP) French Muslims, seething at the negative publicity from the mass car fires, officially blamed the fires on Jewish Lightning, and are demanding immediate reparations from Israel. "They torch our cars in Paris much as they feast on our infants in Gaza," said Ahmed Suleiman, "This is how the Jews plan to bankrupt the Gentile insurance companies with hundreds of claims, then take them over."

#248 Kirly

Yeah, but if a proper frog whips it out and no one sees it,...other than the steaming stream of
ouiand the distinct scent, who am I to judge their culture?

/sarc