Yawn.

/goes back to sleep.

I just want to see a dr. dean like meltdown.

Huckabee with the manatee.

/and what the marmoset saw

If the hildabeast comes in third, a major meltdown is in store.

Any chance Rudy will be a surprise winner : )

Go Rudy 2008!

I sure hope that Rudy's gamble pays off. I'm not excited about either of the two leading Repubs.

Iowa and NH have early-fied themselves out of relevance.

All this will affect is a little boost in the polls for a few candidates. The overall tenor of the election will remain unchanged.

Clinton v. Giuliani. Bank on it.

Why does Iowa get the firs caucus anyway? What's so important about Iowa?

I'm not Iowa bashing, I just want to know.

Lord, please let Ron Paul finish dead last! If he beats in Iowa Rudy I will not be happy.

Huckabee vs. Romney, and Obama vs. Clinton

Wonderful. Is this going to be a Bob Dole situation all over again?

I hope Giuliani is strong in other states. I will not vote for Romney Or Huckabee.

re: #4 newsjunkie_ky

If the hildabeast comes in third, a major meltdown is in store.

I wonder how long and how much Billy will rant?

Take 'em for what they're worth: Iowa predictions -

I'm going to go with Obama winning the caucus for the Democrats. Edwards will take second and Hillary a very disappointing third with Richardson taking fourth by a very narrow margin. Romney will win for the GOP. Huckabee will take second by a narrow margin with McCain sliding into third. Fred Thompson will take fourth, but the surprise will be how strong Rudy will do in Iowa given his paucity of campaigning there. Ron Paul will be a nonfactor.

re: #8 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

There is nothing so important about Iowa that they should get to go first. Absolutely nothing!

Waterboarding seems more appealing at this point.

The Iowa caucus has always reminded me of my first sexual experience.

Months thinking about it. I spent considerable time, and effort.

In the end, it was over just like that and now seems so unimportant

Oh no! Not here too?! Gawddd just shoot me!

re: #5 thepoguemahone

Any chance Rudy will be a surprise winner : )

Go Rudy 2008!

I just can't see Rudy's Judy as First Lady.

chillary

re: #9 insanity police

Lord, please let Ron Paul finish dead last! If he beats in Iowa Rudy I will not be happy.

LOL. I'm writing like Yoda talks. I meant, "if he beats Rudy in Iowa I will not be happy."

re: #5 thepoguemahone

re: #6 daledog

I haven't been following the details, but it looks like Rudy mostly ignored Iowa, in preference of running a national campaign. He doesn't really need the iowa delegates to win the nomination. Nor does he need the publicity mini-boost that winning Iowa would bring. He's operating on a larger scale.

Huckabee's numbers look very good.

RP = mass meltdown?

Winning the Iowa Caucus is about as important to being president as Winning the Heisman trophy is towards making the pro bowl.

One blogger I saw today called Ron Paul the "Internet President." That made me laugh.

re: #12 lawhawk

Take 'em for what they're worth: Iowa predictions -

I'm going to go with Obama winning the caucus for the Democrats. Edwards will take second and Hillary a very disappointing third with Richardson taking fourth by a very narrow margin. Romney will win for the GOP. Huckabee will take second by a narrow margin with McCain sliding into third. Fred Thompson will take fourth, but the surprise will be how strong Rudy will do in Iowa given his paucity of campaigning there. Ron Paul will be a nonfactor.

Despite my preference for waterboarding over watching any more of this coverage, I tend to agree with your assessment.

I'm just so tired of this endless fawning over these folks in Iowa.

Oh good Fox news alert. New video from Azzam the American. (Adam Gadahn Independent voter from CA) I figured the AQ had offed him and put him in the same grave as UBL.

As for Hillary, she was hoping to have a strong showing, and the fact that they're already stage managing and pre-spinning her results suggests one of two things - she's strong in second, in which case they're trying to boost her figures to show momentum going forward, or she's really in serious trouble and they're trying to get the damage control parties activated. I think it is the latter, but as others have pointed out, this is still way too early to discount any of the big names. Things will sort out after the first of the big state primaries.

Tom Harkin - Iowa caucus winner

Tim Couch-- Heisman winner

re: #22 Shug

Winning the Iowa Caucus is about as important to being president as Winning the Heisman trophy is towards making the pro bowl.

Unless you subscribe to Pat Buchanan's "momentum theory." I hear him talking about it all the time on t.v. I hope he is wrong, for Rudy's sake.

re: #11 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #4 newsjunkie_ky

If the hildabeast comes in third, a major meltdown is in store.

I wonder how long and how much Billy will rant?

For some reason I still think, in the back of my mind, that bill doesn't want hill to win the WH. He is so egocentric that I can't believe he would be happy with hill winning the presidency.

re: #8 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Why does Iowa get the firs caucus anyway? What's so important about Iowa?

I'm not Iowa bashing, I just want to know.

Explained by Iowahawk

re: #1 zombie

Yawn.

/goes back to sleep.

So what's next on the radar? Or should we ask?

I just got the phone with my colleague in Temecula. I'll be in your neck of the woods soon.

Can you help me set up a weapons factory?

Iowa stinks.

Iowa is the price we pay for them not having any college teams make it to the BCS.

My predictions: Rudy will underperform (Praise Allah) and Ron Paul will get double digit support.

re: #9 insanity police

Lord, please let Ron Paul finish dead last! If he beats in Iowa Rudy I will not be happy.

I would love to see noR luaP finish first and watch the S%@t hit the fan.
/just because I'm ornery. heh.

...and all of them against America.

re: #27 Shug

Tom Harkin - Iowa caucus winner

Tim Couch-- Heisman winner

Yeah, here's how important Iowa is:

Dean-Harkin in '08!

re: #25 Just_A_Grunt

And we know that it's a new video and not one in the can because he's talking about current events?

re: #34 PeaceBeUponHim

My predictions: Rudy will underperform (Praise Allah) and Ron Paul will get double digit support.

the only double digits ron paul will get is from his proctologist

CONSPIRACY! CONSPIRACY! If Ron Paul doesn't come in first, it is because Elvis and Tupac cast their votes from hiding as well as the influence of the illuminati and bilderbergs!

It looks like Iowa is going to teabag Ron Paul in 2008. The Blimp is on fire... Oh the humanity.

We have a plan, a plan that cannot possibly fail.

An editorial I can agree with:

Washington Post columnist David Broder joined the attack, saying the peculiar procedures in Iowa favored conservative Christian and anti-abortion groups among Republicans and organized labor among Democrats who were best organized and able to get their members to the caucuses.
The result, he wrote, was "a double distortion mirror."

Editorials say Iowa too unrepresentative

Didn't Ron Paul pass some sort of earmark for shrimp fishermen in Galveston? The Bubba Gump Act? Google Ron Paul shrimp

Prawn Roll!

re: #31 Pro-Bush Canuck

So what's next on the radar? Or should we ask?

Never ask! Because I'll never tell.

I just got the phone with my colleague in Temecula. I'll be in your neck of the woods soon.

Temecula is so far from being my neck of the woods that even, say, Amsterdam feels closer.

Can you help me set up a weapons factory?

If by "weapons" you mean "hemp brownies" -- sure.

Some people were predicting Paul would beat Thompson, but it sure doesn't look that way. McCain and Thompson are tied behind Huckabee and Romney.

I Outta Went Around

Seriously. We need a better way of getting a President. Has anybody but me come out for really using the Electoral College?

#8 Kansas at #3 Virginia Tech (Fox) as an alternative to the Iowa Caucus circus on newschannels.

re: #29 newsjunkie_ky

re: #11 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #4 newsjunkie_ky

If the hildabeast comes in third, a major meltdown is in store.

I wonder how long and how much Billy will rant?

For some reason I still think, in the back of my mind, that bill doesn't want hill to win the WH. He is so egocentric that I can't believe he would be happy with hill winning the presidency.

Plus, that's four, possibly eight more years before he can divorce her.

Is Iowa on the 33rd Parallel?
/just askin'
*snicker*

I should have tuned in to Rush this morning. The Hawkeye Cauci!

Polls mean jack shit until the actual votes are taken and recorded. Wake me after they've voted.

re: #35 MrMom

re: #9 insanity police

Lord, please let Ron Paul finish dead last! If he beats in Iowa Rudy I will not be happy.

I would love to see noR luaP finish first and watch the S%@t hit the fan.
/just because I'm ornery. heh.

noR luaP! FOTFLOL!

/I don't know why, but that is funny stuff.

Is Iowa a "whiner-take-all" state?

re: #25 Just_A_Grunt

Oh good Fox news alert. New video from Azzam the American. (Adam Gadahn Independent voter from CA) I figured the AQ had offed him and put him in the same grave as UBL.

You mean that fat guy with the lisp?

re: #54 solomonpanting

Is Iowa a "whiner-take-all" state?

No, it's a "loser-take-all" state, considering the people who are in the running.

re: #54 solomonpanting

Thought that was "Weiner-take-all"?

Ok, mil lizards. I need some feedback. I'm looking at bringing Bofors into Canada (and by extension the US).

They have the tried and true 40mm, but were you guys aware of the new 57mm?

In speaking with my mil Canadian friends, this is what they need right now. It's a big dollar deal, but i think Bofors is reliable.

Feedback from vets (please!)?

And in important news,

The kid who hit me insurance company called me and approved the repairs at the shop I wanted, covering all the repairts and covered a rental vehicle for me. I get to take it in tomorrow.

1976 Iowa Caucus -
Uncommitted" (37%)
Jimmy Carter (28%)

Uncommitted would have been a better president. whatever happened to that guy?

re: #50 Le_Patriot

Iowa Center, IA (US): 41n56, 93w24, Iowa. forcast ~ chillary which can be obaminable at times.

re: #47 lifeofthemind

Seriously. We need a better way of getting a President. Has anybody but me come out for really using the Electoral College?

Dr. S has another novel idea ..

[Link: drsanity.blogspot.com...]

Check out the Paul Potts link just below the Che Edwards cartoon.

Will lord and savior Kucinich be dropping out of the race now that he has had his 15 minutes? re: #59 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

And in important news,

The kid who hit me insurance company called me and approved the repairs at the shop I wanted, covering all the repairts and covered a rental vehicle for me. I get to take it in tomorrow.

If you were hit by an illegal, you'd be paying for it out of pocket.

re: #60 Shug

LMAO!

re: #61 Straitcircle

re: #50 Le_Patriot

Iowa Center, IA (US): 41n56, 93w24, Iowa. forcast ~ chillary which can be obaminable at times.

___
I have lock-on...I have tone...weapon away.
*climbing to 80,000*

re: #8 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Why does Iowa get the firs caucus anyway? What's so important about Iowa?

I'm not Iowa bashing, I just want to know.

Highest average test scores in the nation, for one.

My Predictions:

*crowd goes silent*

Romney by a hair (pardon the pun)
Huck
McCain
Fred/Paul
Rudy

You may now return to your regularly scheduled lizard-lounging...

re: #60 Shug

1976 Iowa Caucus -
Uncommitted" (37%)
Jimmy Carter (28%)

Uncommitted would have been a better president. whatever happened to that guy?

I want to open a restaurant called I Don't Know.

"Hon, where do you want to eat?"
"I don't know."
"Okay."

Other options for restaurant names include I Don't Care, Some Place Good, and Anyplace That Takes Plastic.

re: #66 rawmuse

re: #8 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Why does Iowa get the firs caucus anyway? What's so important about Iowa?

I'm not Iowa bashing, I just want to know.

Highest average test scores in the nation, for one.

All rooms have 4 corners for people to caucus, for #2

re: #68 Silhouette

Open one called Not my mother-in-law's house and I'll see you there

re: #68 Silhouette

re: #60 Shug

1976 Iowa Caucus -
Uncommitted" (37%)
Jimmy Carter (28%)

Uncommitted would have been a better president. whatever happened to that guy?

I want to open a restaurant called I Don't Know.

"Hon, where do you want to eat?"
"I don't know."
"Okay."

Local bar near me ... "Who cares"
It's worked for me on several occasions :.)

Other options for restaurant names include I Don't Care, Some Place Good, and Anyplace That Takes Plastic.

This is funny:

Ron Paul’s Supporters Rally in the World of Warcraft

WanderingGoblin reports on a successful Ron Paul rally–in the virtual World of Warcraft.

The rally went a bit better than expected. The number of Ron Paul followers that appeared were appreciable.

The rally actually caused a queue on Whisperwind of more than 300 players waiting to log in.

They filled five raids with Ron Paul supporters. At 40 per raid, that was more than 200 people.

Various guildmates threw out different figures. One said that 200+ people had shown up. Another said the number was 240, another said 250 or more.

The march ended in Orgrimmar, with (presumably) the mass slaughter of the marchers at the hands of their Horde enemies. No word on how Ron Paul felt about this horrific tragedy.

Teenager strangled by father

Police and ambulance crews rushed to the Stevens St, Pennant Hills townhouse in Sydney's northwest, arriving to find the girl unconscious and her father dead.

Distraught neighbours last night said the evening calm was shattered by the mother's distraught screams.

"The scream was heard down the street. It was horrible," one neighbour said.

It is understood the family were originally from Iran and had signed a two-year lease on the property three months ago.

/chalk up another one

re: #69 xtraBilly

Iowa said "FIRST" and Stinky didn't deleted them.

Gingrich/Hunter vs Lieberman/Zell Miller
...oh, wait...
never mind
/a "newt" is a kind of lizard, wo why isn't he runnin'?

re: #58 Pro-Bush Canuck

Ok, mil lizards. I need some feedback. I'm looking at bringing Bofors into Canada (and by extension the US).

They have the tried and true 40mm, but were you guys aware of the new 57mm?

In speaking with my mil Canadian friends, this is what they need right now. It's a big dollar deal, but i think Bofors is reliable.

Feedback from vets (please!)?

Watched about 3 minutes of the tape. All the targets were stationary at 600 meters which is not a good test for something I would assume is designed to be primarily an anti- aircraft gun. Second point the first round always tended to be high and the gun compensated to bring it back down to what I am assuming is the point of aim.
I would need to see how this gun does against moving targets, what does the ammunition magazine look like, how is it loaded and can jams be cleared easily or does it take the gun off line for an extended period. In other words I have more questions then answers.

Look at the poll at the top of this page.
A national average for Rudy at 20%.
Look at the thread's link.
Paul over Rudy by a point.

Yeah, Iowa is typical.

What is the turnout going to be ?

Quite low right?

So what happens if all the Luap nor supporters get the night off at the 7-11 and go caucus make asses of themselves at a caucus?

Good thing the republican caucus is a more civilized event than on the democrat side. I would imagine the paulians in a caucus room would be like that guy on the Holy Land Foundation jury

re: #62 turn

Thank you. I tend to defer to the genius of the Founders. If we divided the Electors into 3 classes and gave them 6 year terms like Senators then we could eliminate this game show nonsense. Retail politics has it's place, at the local level. Local state legislatures should select the Electors, probably from a list of retired Judges, Governors and "Leading citizens" meaning Billionaires. The Federal government should keep busy locking up state legislators for corruption. That has to be a better system than what we have.

re: #75 Le_Patriot

Gingrich/Hunter vs Lieberman/Zell Miller
...oh, wait...
never mind
/a "newt" is a kind of lizard, wo why isn't he runnin'?

Newts are amphibians, not reptiles.

Like I always say, vote early. often and most importantly, CORRECTLY!

Right, Hil?

Free mojitos at the palace for the MSM!

Please, G-d, anybody but Huckabee. He's not even a fecking Republican, for pete's sakes.

2008: NOBODY FROM ARKANSAS

re: #79 lifeofthemind

Right on ... Iowa Caucus = Game Show Nonsense

Please wake me when this is over...

re: #82 Pawn of the Oppressor

That just plain statist. What did Arkansas every do to you?

Oh! The Clintons. Never mind.

re: #20 zombie

re: #5 thepoguemahone

re: #6 daledog

I haven't been following the details, but it looks like Rudy mostly ignored Iowa, in preference of running a national campaign. He doesn't really need the iowa delegates to win the nomination. Nor does he need the publicity mini-boost that winning Iowa would bring. He's operating on a larger scale.

On one hand, you are correct, no matter what happens, iowa will likely go democrat anyway when the real election goes down.

on the other hand, it may not be too much of a stretch to say that some people may view Rudy's (more or less) ignoring of Iowa of a sign that, to him, the 'flyover country' people don't matter to him.

That could be deadly to his campaign (Especially if true)

Gore invented the internet, and Ron Paul is president of it.
This has of course caused GorePaul Warming, and resulted in
Gore winning the NoBalls Peace Award.re: #80 Colonel Panik

re: #75 Le_Patriot

Gingrich/Hunter vs Lieberman/Zell Miller
...oh, wait...
never mind
/a "newt" is a kind of lizard, wo why isn't he runnin'?

Newts are amphibians, not reptiles.

___
Any of several small, slender, often brightly colored salamanders of the European genus Triturus or the North American genera Notophthalmus and Taricha, living chiefly on land but becoming aquatic during the breeding season.
... he's a lizard, dammit

Romney
Huckabee
Paul
Thompson
McCain
Rudy

Thompson to withdraw Friday and endorse McCain.

Dems:
Edwards
Obama
Clinton

(are there others running)

re: #75 Le_Patriot

Gingrich/Hunter vs Lieberman/Zell Miller
...oh, wait...
never mind
/a "newt" is a kind of lizard, wo why isn't he runnin'?

I'm looking for advisers right now. WriterMom (a fellow lizard) has my contact info. I'm meeting with the minister of defense in April. We're trying to get funding for numerous new systems. The Swedes do not fool around. That video was from 2002. From my non-mil perspective when I was there in August the thing has been tuned considerably since then.

lifeofthemind, there probably is a better system than the one we have, but I doubt we'll get it until we deserve it.

re: #84 coquimbojoe

Please wake me when this is over...

On Jan. 21, 2008 they next batch will be announcing bids for the White House in '12.

re: #5 thepoguemahone

Any chance Rudy will be a surprise winner : )

Go Rudy 2008!

Amen and hear hear!

re: #76 Just_A_Grunt

re: #58 Pro-Bush Canuck

Ok, mil lizards. I need some feedback. I'm looking at bringing Bofors into Canada (and by extension the US).

They have the tried and true 40mm, but were you guys aware of the new 57mm?

In speaking with my mil Canadian friends, this is what they need right now. It's a big dollar deal, but i think Bofors is reliable.

Feedback from vets (please!)?

Watched about 3 minutes of the tape. All the targets were stationary at 600 meters which is not a good test for something I would assume is designed to be primarily an anti- aircraft gun. Second point the first round always tended to be high and the gun compensated to bring it back down to what I am assuming is the point of aim.
I would need to see how this gun does against moving targets, what does the ammunition magazine look like, how is it loaded and can jams be cleared easily or does it take the gun off line for an extended period. In other words I have more questions then answers.

Meant to repy to #76 -- sorry on phone.

re: #86 LanceKates

Politicians operate under the maxim that what is fatal to their careers are the false scandals. The true scandals they are equipped to deal with.

re: #72 insanity police

This is funny:

Ron Paul’s Supporters Rally in the World of Warcraft

WanderingGoblin reports on a successful Ron Paul rally–in the virtual World of Warcraft.

The rally went a bit better than expected. The number of Ron Paul followers that appeared were appreciable.

The rally actually caused a queue on Whisperwind of more than 300 players waiting to log in.

They filled five raids with Ron Paul supporters. At 40 per raid, that was more than 200 people.

Various guildmates threw out different figures. One said that 200+ people had shown up. Another said the number was 240, another said 250 or more.

The march ended in Orgrimmar, with (presumably) the mass slaughter of the marchers at the hands of their Horde enemies. No word on how Ron Paul felt about this horrific tragedy.

The upshot is these people are not, ahem, contributing their DNA to the rest of the gene pool.

I'm already sick of hearing the talking heads say , "It's a really close race."

SO WHAT!? IF ANY OF THE FRONTRUNNERS BECOME POTUS...WE LOSE! WE HAVE ALREADY HAD 20 YEARS OF SHIT IN THE OFFICE ALREADY AND WE CAN NO LONGER AFFORD THAT LUXURY!

re: #88 jimsaco

Dems:

Obama
Clinton
Edwards
Undecided
Harkin
uncommitted
unconscious
Tsongas
Biden
Dodd
Kucinich

fixed fer ya

re: #7 zombie

Iowa and NH have early-fied themselves out of relevance.

All this will affect is a little boost in the polls for a few candidates. The overall tenor of the election will remain unchanged.

Clinton v. Giuliani. Bank on it.

Did you say Yawn? Although I do think it'll be interesting to see it play out.

re: #63 ronpaulblimpie

Curiously enough, I have an acquaintance who was struck by an illegal alien. Said illegal alien had no license, but did have insurance.

The insurance paid for the damage to my friend's car.

Go figure.

My conspiracy theory is that the polls have suddenly shown hillary dropping so that when she comes in first the luster of "inevitability" will return.

Then I heard the minor candidates urging their folks to send their second round support to obama and the luster of my theory declined...

re: #95 coquimbojoe

LOL. True.

I sure hope Romney wins.

A Huckabee victory would be a liberal dream come true.

re: #100 commander_vimes

My conspiracy theory is that the polls have suddenly shown hillary dropping so that when she comes in first the luster of "inevitability" will return.

Then I heard the minor candidates urging their folks to send their second round support to obama and the luster of my theory declined...

this is all prep for " the comeback kid" bullshit

give it a few weeks

Ron Paul supporters to fly helicopter over Cedar Rapids

Bottom line: The air assault is sponsored by Troofer nutjob Alex Jones and the Streicherist pig who holds his leash, Ted Anderson.

The Ron Paul Aircorps is the brainchild of Ted Anderson, owner and CEO of the Genesis Communications Radio Network (GCN) out of Saint Paul, Minnesota and nationally-syndicated radio show host, Alex Jones.

The tow will be announced today on GCN’s flagship show, the Alex Jones show. Alex Jones, a nationally-recognized media activist who has been featured from 60 Minutes to USA Today, is a staunch supporter of Ron Paul.

Says Jones, “The latest battalion in the info-war, the Ron Paul Aircorps, is launching today to wake people up that Ron Paul is the only real hope for America.”

As speculation intensifies in Iowa about whether Bill Richardson will ask his supporters to back Obama on the second ballot tonight, the New Mexico governor made a potentially Freudian slip in a morning interview on CNN. Asked to defend his opposition to waterboarding of detainees in US custody, Richardson gave a slightly rambling answer that referred to Pakistani president Pervez Musharraf as a "terrorist".

Link

Fox t.v. Adam Gahdan will soon release a new video.

re: #35 MrMom

re: #9 insanity police

Lord, please let Ron Paul finish dead last! If he beats in Iowa Rudy I will not be happy.

I would love to see noR luaP finish first and watch the S%@t hit the fan.
/just because I'm ornery. heh.

I confess ... that same thot has crept into my mind more than once in the past month or so. It would be a real "break-out-the popcorn" moment.

re: #85 jcm

re: #82 Pawn of the Oppressor

That just plain statist. What did Arkansas every do to you?

Oh! The Clintons. Never mind.

Well on the bright side, there was Sling Blade. Carl Childers for President?

(scene: the White House Press Room)
Reporter: "Mister President, what are you doing with that lawnmower blade?"
President Childers: "I aims t' keel Ahmedinejad wid' it. Mmm-hmm."

re: #105 Shiplord Kirel

I don't like the word brainchild and ron paul in the same sentence.

To be factually accurate it should be child's brain and ron paul in the same sentence.

re: #76 Just_A_Grunt

It's a dual-use turret. The accuracy looked reasonable enough for non-enhanced open sight targeting. Air burst (the simulated "boghammer" test) makes accuracy kind of irrelevant.

The Bofors 57mm itself has been around for several decades so I'm not sure what the testing of the gun itself is all about.

Maybe I missed something in the video?

WHAT
GIVES,
R

I think I'll write in Ted Nugent in the primaries and vote against the Dhimmicrat in the general election.

I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man's reasoning powers are not above the monkey's.
- Mark Twain

Predictions from this contrarian:

GOP
1. Huckabee 2. Romney 3. McCain 4. Thompson 5. Paul 6. Giuliani

DEM
1. Edwards 2. Obama 3. Clinton 4. Biden 5. Richardson

re: #106 buzzsawmonkey

re: #97 shug

re: #88 jimsaco

Dems:
Obama
Clinton
Edwards
Undecided
Harkin
uncommitted
unconscious
Tsongas
Biden
Dodd
Kucinich

fixed fer ya

The Tsongas ended, but the muddledness lingers on.

I thought Paul Tsongas dies years ago?

re: #105 Shiplord Kirel

Ron Paul supporters to fly helicopter over Cedar Rapids

Bottom line: The air assault is sponsored by Troofer nutjob Alex Jones and the Streicherist pig who holds his leash, Ted Anderson.

The Ron Paul Aircorps is the brainchild of Ted Anderson, owner and CEO of the Genesis Communications Radio Network (GCN) out of Saint Paul, Minnesota and nationally-syndicated radio show host, Alex Jones.
The tow will be announced today on GCN’s flagship show, the Alex Jones show. Alex Jones, a nationally-recognized media activist who has been featured from 60 Minutes to USA Today, is a staunch supporter of Ron Paul.

Says Jones, “The latest battalion in the info-war, the Ron Paul Aircorps, is launching today to wake people up that Ron Paul is the only real hope for America.”

Ron Paul Luftwaffe.

re: #2 Sharmuta

I just want to see a dr. dean like meltdown.

Keep watching Shrillery. It's gonna happen sooner or later.

re: #115 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

re: #106 buzzsawmonkey

re: #97 shug

re: #88 jimsaco

Dems:
Obama
Clinton
Edwards
Undecided
Harkin
uncommitted
unconscious
Tsongas
Biden
Dodd
Kucinich

fixed fer ya

The Tsongas ended, but the muddledness lingers on.

I thought Paul Tsongas dies years ago?

PIMF I meant died

re: #118 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

dead he is, and yet he's polling ahead of biden and dodd

re: #112 Render

re: #76 Just_A_Grunt

It's a dual-use turret. The accuracy looked reasonable enough for non-enhanced open sight targeting. Air burst (the simulated "boghammer" test) makes accuracy kind of irrelevant.

The Bofors 57mm itself has been around for several decades so I'm not sure what the testing of the gun itself is all about.

Maybe I missed something in the video?

WHAT
GIVES,
R

It isn't on the list in Canada. Not sure about US.

re: #91 jcm

I think you mean January 21, 2009. It's 2008 now.

/pedantic mode off

re: #93 Pro-Bush Canuck

This looks like the 2" gun the US Coast Guard is putting on the new National Security Cutters. Smaller than the 76 mm Otto Milera the Navy has on frigates, which is considered a joke. Of limited use against high speed air threats, the 20 mm CIWS does that job better. Also of limited use against armored vehicles. My money would be for major caliber systems, over 6" and real anti air systems. The middle doesn't seem the place to be. Good luck though.

re: #115 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I thought Paul Tsongas dies years ago?

Sadly, you are correct.

re: #119 shug

re: #118 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

dead he is, and yet he's polling ahead of biden and dodd

You mean this is a real poll?

Massachusetts' Fifth District congressperson (D) Niki Tsongas is the widow of Paul Tsongas.

For whatever that's worth

re: #23 insanity police

And the Goricle Invented the Internet!

/heh

re: #124 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

no. ron paul isn't way ahead

/

re: #116 Honorary Yooper

Ron Paul Luftwaffe.

The dog is dead but the tail still wags.
Cue Ride of the Valkyries.

re: #127 shug

So they finally found a poll that the Ron Paul nuts could not scam? Wow.

re: #93 Pro-Bush Canuck

The Soviets had a 57mm anti aircraft gun mounted on a tracked vehicle chasis, ZSU-57-2 (it had 2 barrels). Even back in the 80's and 90's our guys weren't too afraid of it. Slow rate of fire, accuracy issues and as with all things Soviet human comfort wasn't on the list. I don't know a single barrel version of this gun would work. It might be okay mounted on the deck of ship for engaging other naval vessels but like I said until I see it in action against a moving target color me unimpressed.
Give me the good ol 5 barrel 30mm Vulcan anyday.

re: #121 vxbush

Hey VX, cold enough out there for you?

re: #2 Sharmuta

I just want to see a dr. dean like meltdown.

Yes. If Hillary finishes third her whole life's ambition will be down the tubes and a meltdown will be in order.

re: #123 commander_vimes

re: #115 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I thought Paul Tsongas dies years ago?

Sadly, you are correct.

Oh, now I understand the "sadly" part ..

"His seat went to fellow Democrat and 2004 presidential nominee John Kerry."

re: #128 Shiplord Kirel

re: #116 Honorary Yooper

Ron Paul Luftwaffe.

The dog is dead but the tail still wags.
Cue Ride of the Valkyries.

Ride of the Valkyries

re: #132 Canadian Guy

I would figure they try out for the VP slot at least. A Vince Foster type incident can always be manufactured later.
/ Do I need this?

re: #94 lifeofthemind

generally by covering up and lying.

Which is why I don't trust them.

I have always thought that Rudy didn't have NEARLY as much popular pull once you left the new england area... and his polling is kind of showing that. He was the clear and obvious leader before, now not so much.

Even in liberal iowa.

re: #131 3 wood

Just enough. Two layers of thermals on, sweater, heavy insulated coat, gloves, hat, boots, and a surgical mask so the air doesn't freeze in my lungs.

/only half sarcing

re: #128 Shiplord Kirel

Cue Ride of the Valkyries.

Just say "Kill da Wabbit." We don't know nuthin about no Valka-whatevers.

Dear Penthouse,
I know this sounds crazy, but I swear it's true! I attend a large midwestern university. While doing my laundry in the basement of my dorm, two hot co-eds from Iowa came in and said, "..oooh, please caucus" As you might imagine...

/making the Iowa caucus more interesting!

re: #133 turn

re: #123 commander_vimes

re: #115 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I thought Paul Tsongas dies years ago?

Sadly, you are correct.

Oh, now I understand the "sadly" part ..

"His seat went to fellow Democrat and 2004 presidential nominee John Kerry."

Moreso, imagine if he'd gotten the nomination in 1992 instead of slick willie.

Caucus is such a dumb word.

re: #136 buzzsawmonkey

re: #118 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Yes, Tsongas died a while back. Which adds particular poignancy to the "song is ended" play on words.

I thought so. I remember hearing on the news that he died and thought, 'well it's a good thing he wasn't elected President.'

re: #130 Just_A_Grunt

we had a 57mm anti-tank gun which saw service during WWII, was not thought highly of.

re: #122 lifeofthemind

My money would be for major caliber systems, over 6" and real anti air systems. The middle doesn't seem the place to be. Good luck though.

U.S. has historically undergunned itself.

re: #140 MrMom

Dear Penthouse,
I know this sounds crazy, but I swear it's true! I attend a large midwestern university. While doing my laundry in the basement of my dorm, two hot co-eds from Iowa came in and said, "..oooh, please caucus" As you might imagine...

/making the Iowa caucus more interesting!

*headslam!*

re: #39 Shug

re: #34 PeaceBeUponHim

My predictions: Rudy will underperform (Praise Allah) and Ron Paul will get double digit support.

the only double digits ron paul will get is from his proctologist

If his proctologist is from Ottawa, is it a Canadian Goose?

/bowing and leaving stage

re: #9 insanity police

Insanity:

I read your spinoff link about the Bronfman Contest for the Next Big Jewish Idea. I have some ideas, how do I submit them?

BTW Is the guy's name really GOYette? LOL.

ALOUETTE'S 10 BIG JEWISH IDEAS.

1. Keep Shabbos
2. Keep Kosher
3. Keep Taharat Mishpacha (Mikvah)
4. Make Jewish Babies
5. Make Jewish Babies
6. Make Jewish Babies
7. Make Jewish Babies
8. Make Jewish Babies
9. Make Jewish Babies
10. Make Jewish Grandbabies

The more I hear these Iowans interviewed, the less comfort I have in their systems, their sensibilities, or any amount of effect they will have on the election.

re: #122 lifeofthemind

re: #93 Pro-Bush Canuck

This looks like the 2" gun the US Coast Guard is putting on the new National Security Cutters. Smaller than the 76 mm Otto Milera the Navy has on frigates, which is considered a joke. Of limited use against high speed air threats, the 20 mm CIWS does that job better. Also of limited use against armored vehicles. My money would be for major caliber systems, over 6" and real anti air systems. The middle doesn't seem the place to be. Good luck though.

high speed air threat

That only involves missiles when it comes to AQ. They can't mount an actual airforce.

We need to deliver devastating damage on selected targets. Get them where the live.

/ No nukes - apologies to Iron Fist

re: #139 Silhouette

re: #128 Shiplord Kirel

Cue Ride of the Valkyries.

Just say "Kill da Wabbit." We don't know nuthin about no Valka-whatevers.

My kids heard Ride of the Valkyries in a concert performance, later informing me that it was the music from Bugs Bunny.

It's hard for me to believe Hillary won't win the Dem nomination.

re: #96 paxnhymn

it is tiring for the republican candidates to only be 'conservative' in comparison to the socialists the dems are putting up.

If Shrillary finsihes third I think her 'attack' team will step up a little bit more... Watch for the plants!

re: #130 Just_A_Grunt
Amen Grunt. i'm with you. I'll give up the twice-the-size cumbersome 57mikemikes for about 10 times more 30 mike mikes in a heartbeat! Plus I always loved the V's droning farting sound!

/too cool!

re: #152 Lively

Me too, though strange things do happen...

re: #149 Biff

OTOH the reporters DO find the worst of an area to interview. Just wait until there is a tornado or flood in your area, and they find the biggest yahoo. Add to that the fact that there are those who are practically professional "man on the street" interviewees. They know how to place themselves to be the one chosen "randomly" by the press.

re: #151 nolocon

re: #139 Silhouette

re: #128 Shiplord Kirel

Cue Ride of the Valkyries.

Just say "Kill da Wabbit." We don't know nuthin about no Valka-whatevers.

My kids heard Ride of the Valkyries in a concert performance, later informing me that it was the music from Bugs Bunny.

OMG that's funny!
I like the one where Bugs dresses up as Leopold Stokowski (sic) and snaps his baton in half.

re: #146 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
Thank you...thank you very much.
MrMom is now leaving the building. Don't play too much with your caucus Lizards!
/ducks and heads out the door
//GO noR luaP!

How will the Iowa 15% rule work for RP?
If your candidate gets less than 15% at your caucus you may recast your vote for your 2nd choice.
Good news is that Hillary is virtually no one's 2nd choice!

re: #154 tfc3rid

If Shrillary finsihes third I think her 'attack' team will step up a little bit more... Watch for the plants!

Also, the Media's warm-and-cuddly Group Hug of Obama will start to wane.
He-Who-Wants-To-Invade-Pakistan might actually start being challenged on the trite garbage he keeps spewing.

re: #154 tfc3rid

Like what? Ficus trees?
*casting nervous glance over shoulder at spider plant on desk*

I thought the caucuses are supposed to be in Asia.

re: #145 nolocon

re: #122 lifeofthemind

My money would be for major caliber systems, over 6" and real anti air systems. The middle doesn't seem the place to be. Good luck though.

U.S. has historically undergunned itself.

Yes and the bien passents forget the psychological role of artillery. My solution to Fallujah would have been lining up 200 artillery tubes and very slowly marching a line of fire from north to south. We no longer have any ground tubes over 6" and the Navy has nothing over 5". The Navy after planning it for almost 30 years should build some ships with 6" guns, maybe.

Granted the more sophisticated approach to Fallujah does seem to be working.

re: #8 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Why does Iowa get the firs caucus anyway? What's so important about Iowa?

I'm not Iowa bashing, I just want to know.

I agree. Isn't it normally a flyover state?

/with apologies to iowahawk

re: #153 LanceKates

re: #96 paxnhymn

it is tiring for the republican candidates to only be 'conservative' in comparison to the socialists the dems are putting up.

I'm hoping Duncan Hunter pulls off a RINO ambush in the snows of New Hampshire.

I just want to see Ron Paul drop off the radar screen. This should happen after Iowa and New Hampshire.

Fiskie voting on the next thread.

Take your time and make your vote count lizards.

You may want to read the arguments on the thread for awhile. Some of the arguments for a choice are very persuasive.

Wisdom from Iowahawk on why Iowa is first.

re: #158 Cygnus

re: #151 nolocon

re: #139 Silhouette

re: #128 Shiplord Kirel

Cue Ride of the Valkyries.

Just say "Kill da Wabbit." We don't know nuthin about no Valka-whatevers.

My kids heard Ride of the Valkyries in a concert performance, later informing me that it was the music from Bugs Bunny.

OMG that's funny!
I like the one where Bugs dresses up as Leopold Stokowski (sic) and snaps his baton in half.

Because 60 years ago people in America with a regular High School education could understand jokes about classical music and were part of Western Civilization.

re: #166 Colonel Panik

hard to get much support when the MSM (Saddly including Fox News) won't give him any presstime, even when he's involved in something they're covering (like ALL of the msm did when general P was giving his speech before the House committee that Hunter was on. Not only was he there for the speech by General P, but Hunter asked QUESTIONS . . . never covered by anyone. Unless you watched it live and saw it, you didn't know he was even there.)

re: #150 Pro-Bush Canuck

Are they lookin' at the Bofor for the CG?! Figures. The Damn Dept. of Transportation knows dick about hardware! I was amazed when they approved that Aerospatiale POS electrical nightmare for use over a Bokaw or a 4 banger Huey! Faster don't mean squat if it's deadlined all the time! Their thinkin' is whack!

re: #163 rappmandu

I thought the caucuses are supposed to be in Asia.

Are people who perticipate in the caucuses considered "caucasians"?

participate

PIMF

A sample of The Rude Pundit's Rudeness on Iowa (cleaned up to be work safe; for complete uncensored version with profanity go here):

1/03/2008
Can't Wait to Hear What the White People of Iowa Have to Say:
There's many, many reasons to despise the Iowa caucus. Gail Collins and Christopher Hitchens have covered the *expletive* of the entire process, a backwards ass *expletive* of meetings where about 10-15% of the voting *expletive*s of Iowa - who, we are constantly told, are kind, decent, thoughtful people, really, it's true - drink coffee, eat donuts or homemade brownies (because decent, kind farm folk make their own *expletive* brownies, you urban *expletive*s), and talk about who should be their party's nominee, voting until there's a winner in the room.

This comes after months and months of what can only be described as a kind of competitive brainwashing that enriches the local TV and radio stations (most of which are owned by giant corporations elsewhere), and makes the residents, the 90% or so of voters who don't give a flea's fart about the caucus, dread going to a downtown diner for the gut-wrenching fear they might be forced to shake hands with some [darn] Romney or Clinton. And the increasingly desperate-for-a-story media, who will hype anything, including the latest security cam video of a purse snatching or Paris Hilton's [privates], treat this like it's Sparta versus Athens.
...
See, the Rude Pundit's problem with Iowa is one of demographics. Iowa's white, so very, very white, 91% white. 2.5% black, 3.8% Hispanic (not counting the number of illegal migrants who harvest in those archetypal farms). In other words, Iowa ain't us. The attention to the Iowa caucus is based on a myth of America, a lie that hasn't existed in decades, maybe even a century or two. It is a vestige of the rightness of whiteness. It ain't about the way that good, decent, hard-working blah-blah-blah American citizens think. It's about what that isolated island of white people says.
...
Essentially, the whole nation is now forced to wait to see what the *expletive*s of Iowa have to say. It's like everyone gathering around the Thanksgiving table and when stroke-victim Grandma starts to slurringly, slurpingly speak, the rest of the family grows silent to hear what she thinks of the meal. And if you agree with Grandma just because she's Grandma, *expletive*, then the Iowa caucus might be meaningful to you. But if you nod and smile and say, "That's fine, Grandma. Pass the gravy," then you are ready to grow up.

Dennis to the left of me
Ron Paul to the right
Here I am stuck in the middle with you.

re: #167 Ward Cleaver

I just want to see Ron Paul drop off the radar screen. This should happen after Iowa and New Hampshire.

I added a Paul spinoff link. I was hoping it was satirical, but I really can't tell. Are people blind to the reality that he can't possibly do most of the things he's campaigning on?

re: #106 buzzsawmonkey

Niki Tsongas represents my district. This is what forty years on of unfettered moonbattery gets you . Gerrymandering such that this whack job can get elected.

The only reason I can think of to go to Iowa.My favorite place.

If McCain finishes with any signs of life, you know the Washington media is going to crown him the winner. They love him.

re: #179 Mike in Georgia

The only reason I can think of to go to Iowa.My favorite place.

And here I thought it would be a bunch of covered bridges :).

re: #177 Whole Wheat Bagel

re: #167 Ward Cleaver

I just want to see Ron Paul drop off the radar screen. This should happen after Iowa and New Hampshire.

I added a Paul spinoff link. I was hoping it was satirical, but I really can't tell. Are people blind to the reality that he can't possibly do most of the things he's campaigning on?

Yes they are. I'm convinced they haven't the foggiest idea of how our government actually works. Let me rephrase that - is designed to work.

re: #178 Endangered in MASS

didn't she only win by 4 or 5 points over a vastly outspent Repub?

re: #179 Mike in Georgia

The only reason I can think of to go to Iowa.

there is also the Laura Ingalls Wilder museum, and the Norwegian settlers museum ...

I haz ur nominashuns...teh Fred

Really, he said that!

re: #175 kayatribe

Is that schtick, or is the blogger that much of a racist?

re: #187 buzzsawmonkey

Then you'll be bummed to know that Independents can vote in party primaries in NH.

re: #181 Whole Wheat Bagel

Any race fan who has never been to the nationals hasn't
seen the best race there is. It is a hell of a show.

re: #24 JammieWearingFool

re: #12 lawhawk

I'm just so tired of this endless fawning over these folks in Iowa.

Word.

re: #184 mama winger

There's also a lot of pig pens.LOL

BIG CAUCUS IS RIPPING US OFF!

I guess everyone headed next door for Round 1 of the F/F.
I'm heading home - maybe check in later.

re: #172 paxnhymn

re: #150 Pro-Bush Canuck

Are they lookin' at the Bofor for the CG?! Figures. The Damn Dept. of Transportation knows dick about hardware! I was amazed when they approved that Aerospatiale POS electrical nightmare for use over a Bokaw or a 4 banger Huey! Faster don't mean squat if it's deadlined all the time! Their thinkin' is whack!

Here is the ad from the knee deeps for the same gun.

re: #160 mean Gene

OOPS!
Answering my own question.republicans aren't under the 15% rule, only dems are.
Well, at least it might really hurt Hillary.

re: #196 mean Gene

Are you a fellow chess nut?

Marion "Duke" Morrison was born in Iowa, and that's the only good thing I can think of coming out of that state.

re: #196 mean Gene

It will definitely hurt Hillary. She is nobody's second choice. If you're not voting for her to begin with, you'll probably vote for Tsongas before her.

Bob Dole won Iowa,...twice, and we all remember what a great president he was.

re: #72 insanity police

This is funny:

Ron Paul’s Supporters Rally in the World of Warcraft... The march ended in Orgrimmar, with (presumably) the mass slaughter of the marchers at the hands of their Horde enemies. No word on how Ron Paul felt about this horrific tragedy.

You have no idea how funny that truly is. As an avid WoW fan, Orgrimmar is the place where the Trolls live along with other evil races. So effectively, he's saying the trolls beat up the Paulians.

Now that's comedy.

The 2 year election cycle is getting a bit old.

Did I say a bit old? I actually meant that if I hear one more thing about Huckney, Clinbama, or the Only Man Who Can Save Amerikkka, I will be sorely tempted to stick an ice pick into brain.

I predict, Obama, The breck girl, and in last place, Mrs. Bill Clinton. For the Republicans...Romney, Huckabee, Thompson, McCain, Ron Paul... dead last
I agree it is interesting how the Clinton war room is spinning her loss as inconsequential. I want to see Hillary up against a Republican. There is so much good footage of her past...

3rd place losers in Iowa have a history of marking their disappointing performance in the caucuses after months of shamelessly sucking up thousands of hirsute pie wagons draped in Walmart gear by giving great speeches. Howie Deaniac comes to mind. Hell YEARGH he does.

Oh, please can we have a melt down from a 3rd placer tonite?

EL Chupacabra

Brobama squishes Muffer. Edwards gets makeover with tint and highlights. Details at 11.

more money is being spent chasing so few white voters for so little effect.

president howard dean.

I have consulted my Magic 8-Ball and can now reveal the results. For the Republicans, Huck edges Romney. RP edges Rudy... because Iowa is a well-known hotbed of nazis, troofers and whackjobs.

For the Dems- Obama first, Edwards second, Hllary third. Hillary's aura of inevitability takes a serious hit. If she loses to Obama in NH, she is toast.

re: #208 Q-Burn

RP edges Rudy... because Iowa is a well-known hotbed of nazis, troofers and whackjobs.

Is there an official term for a Paullian Moby? And insulting Iowans in the process? Bad form Q-burn. Besides you know all those corn farmers in Iowa are scared to the bejeezes of the thought of a Ron Paul administration that would stop all farm subsidies, seeing as the Constitution never mentioned them. And don't even get me started about ethanol.

But if your little smear that LGF posters have been painting all the Paul supporters as "nazis, troofers, and whackjobs", thats crap. We just want to know why all the intelligent and enlightened Paul supporters like you don't seem to mind hanging out with them and giving them high fives at the rally when the blimp flies over your heads.

re: #209 buzzsawmonkey

I really hope this is the last time Iowa and New Hampshire have such a huge influence on the early momentum. The caucuses are a joke, especially the Dem version with 72 pages of rules.

I like the idea of small states leading off, so underdogs can prectice retail politics and make an impact without huge amounts of money. But they really should rotate the small states around in the early slots. How about Rhode Island and West Viginia next time?

re: #210 Mich-again

I am no Paulian. I'm a small "l" libertarian, but his foreign policies are a dealbreaker for me as I have said many times But his more fanatical minions are sometimes like a mirror image of some (not all) around here who have advanced PDS (Paul Derangement Syndrome).

re: #211 Q-Burn

But his more fanatical minions are sometimes like a mirror image of some (not all) around here who have advanced PDS (Paul Derangement Syndrome).

Neo-Nazis are a mirror image of some of the posters here. Really. Which ones?

Drudge Report current headline:

* * * *

RESULTS:

Clinton 0; Obama 0; Edwards 0
Huckabee 0; McCain 0; Paul 0

* * * *

If only . . .

[Yes, I did leave out a few]

those talking heads over at Fox are making me laugh.
They're talking about Huck as if he is The Second Coming.
I'd like to hear what they're really saying when they're
not on the air.
it was so sweet, so stupid I couldn't stand it.
That dame is so lame!
Plus she's a big liberal.
I'm watching golf instead of that show.

The folly of American politics is , that in the 21st century, we're still making and breaking future presidents' hopes and dreams on the battlefields of two of our most rural and two of our most *lily white* states.

I went to high school in Georgia with more blacks than the average Iowan has ever seen in his or her lifetime.

Does that make Georgia more representative? And a better state to start the nominating process with? Remember, GA gave us Cynthia McKinney.

I would be unsurprised to see Fred take 2nd in Iowa. Not sure why, just a gut feeling.

re: #214 Harley2007

Everyone on that panel is lame. Kristol is supposed to be a genius, but I've never thought so. Fred was bitter when the Shamnesty got shot down. I'm sure Juan Williams doesn't have any fans around here. Fox is totally worthless tonight.

re: #73 Killian Bundy

Teenager strangled by father

Police and ambulance crews rushed to the Stevens St, Pennant Hills townhouse in Sydney's northwest, arriving to find the girl unconscious and her father dead.

Distraught neighbours last night said the evening calm was shattered by the mother's distraught screams.

"The scream was heard down the street. It was horrible," one neighbour said.

It is understood the family were originally from Iran and had signed a two-year lease on the property three months ago.

/chalk up another one

Islam has no other real topic but oppressing women, forever and with impunity. Such a shame, and God send angels to comfort her mother.

re: #218 Salem

you think they're sippin some of Ms Hillaries sweet tea?

re: #4 newsjunkie_ky

If the hildabeast comes in third, a major meltdown is in store.

I imagine there will be fire, lightning bolts, and blood gorging, with this playing in the background:

O Fortuna

Or maybe a more contemporary version.

re: #220 Harley2007

re: #218 Salem

you think they're sippin some of Ms Hillaries sweet tea?

I think I might have to try some, if it'll get me through the frakking caucuses.

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit smoking dope...

sheesh... looks like the PaulBots are spamming the FoxNews poll... He leads the pack with 43% of the vote...

http://youdecide08.foxnews.com/

The Dems are praying for Huck to win the GOP nomination, and their media minions are driving the propaganda wagon believing they can shill him to the GOB base.

re: #197 FoolsMate

Yeah.
All my life.
Its sad to see my abilities not only not improving as I age, but lately even cases of board blindness where I miss the most obvious thing.
I adored the game in the pre-computer age.

re: #223 MrSpock

sheesh... looks like the PaulBots are spamming the FoxNews poll... He leads the pack with 43% of the vote...

Deceit and lies, it is the Ron Paul way!

John Edwards voice already irritates me so much I am eternally grateful I'm not a Dem. Is he trying to sound like a hick? He couldn't possibly sound like that in a court room.

#82 Pawn of the Oppressor 1/03/08 1:11:24 pm 1

Please, G-d, anybody but Huckabee. He's not even a fecking Republican, for pete's sakes.

2008: NOBODY FROM ARKANSAS

That Huckleberry Gomer disgusts me almost as much as Mc Cain does. I don't know which one makes my stomach turn more. Mc Cain would sooner our country be nuked than have a terrorists water-boarded and has worked vigilantly to sell out our country to Mexico and Gomer granted more clemencies to violent criminals while Governor than 5 governors from surrounding states did combined. Also fought to get a rapist released early that quickly went on to rape and murder a woman in Missouri. No thanks...if this is what the Republican party is now about, it can F*ck right off just like the Democrats and I'll just stop voting altogether. Every freaking candidate of both parties speak in platitudes and people fall for this crap over and over again like we are a nation of idiots or something.

ron paul will win. he's being censored by fox, cbs, nbc, the clintons, and all polling outlets. see what the white supremacists see: the true conservative in the race!

/sarc

re: #221 Slumbering Behemoth

Everyone weep with me.

I don't understand what is all the excitement, nobody will drop out today, they have the money to last till the NY primaries.

re: #5 thepoguemahone

If Huckabee wins, Rudy (and McCain) is a winner.

He will have proved to have known what was an expensive lesson for Romney. For Republicans, reason doesn't win in Iowa, knowledge doesn't win in Iowa, achievements doesn't win in Iowa, security issues don't win in Iowa.

Values- read, religion- wins in Iowa.

The bad news for Republicans, religion as the primary reason for voting for President, is a loser nationwide.

why the hell are dems reporting such a higher percentage than republicans right now? huckabee is leading right now...shit...

re: #230 konservo

Que?

the dems are awfully close right now, edwards, obama, and clinton are all at about 32%

Looks like Fox has called it for Huck already. Not even close.

Wow, Fox News is already calling it for Huckabee!

My precinct in Iowa just went Huckabee

Huckabee 23
Romney 22
Paul 12
Thompson 9
McCain 8
Giulinai 7
Hunter 4

Of course that all goes to Huckabee.

Damn. I want to stop the Huckabee hoard and failed.

#103 OKCubsFan 1/03/08 1:18:28 pm reply quote report 0

I sure hope Romney wins.

A Huckabee victory would be a liberal dream come true.

Since Hunter is getting 0% support from the Republican party, then I have to start backing Romney only because he is the lesser of 5 evils. Still repulsive, just less so than the other choices.

Iowa? Meh, just one state out of fifty. Not impressed.

Ron Paul- 11%
Rudy- 4%

232 Opinionated 1/03/08 5:49:20 pm reply quote report 1

Values- read, religion- wins in Iowa.

What religion would that be? The religion of liberal stupidity? Other than his pro-life position and his support for the Iraq war, what is conservative about him? His voting against the Bush tax cuts? His tireless efforts to free violent criminals early? And he's a loon too. He said his surge is not due to human phenomena. So God is causing him to surge? What a complete loon. I'm a Christian but I wouldn't listen to this guy speak at church, much less vote for him for President.

wow, thompson may beat mccain

Huckablehhh...!
:-P

re: #23 insanity police

Funny, me too! How about that for a title? "Hi, I'm Crazy Uncle, President of Virtually Nothing except my veru own webpage!" Oh well, there'll always be Munich, I guess...

And just to see and virtually "hear" it (G_d Willing) for the last time:

Ron Paul!

Republicans should take a warning from the Democrat results.

Obama is not one of those black candidates who polls well but falls short in actual voting. Iowa is a predominately white State and yet Obama does well.

He would do well in a general election. As absurd- and frightening- as it may seem, he could be the next President.

re: #246 Opinionated

Yep. If he can win in a 95% white state... look out.

Right now, everything is stacking up exactly as my Magic 8-Ball predicted in #208...

re: #246 Opinionated

Bite your tongue. This is just one state.

BUT, it sure does put a crimp in Al Sharpton's and Jesse Jackson's race baiting ways doesn't it? Maybe THEY will go away, and the Michael Steele's will win more and big!

re: #242 AirForceWife

232 Opinionated 1/03/08 5:49:20 pm reply quote report 1

Values- read, religion- wins in Iowa.

What religion would that be? The religion of liberal stupidity? Other than his pro-life position and his support for the Iraq war, what is conservative about him? His voting against the Bush tax cuts? His tireless efforts to free violent criminals early? And he's a loon too. He said his surge is not due to human phenomena. So God is causing him to surge? What a complete loon. I'm a Christian but I wouldn't listen to this guy speak at church, much less vote for him for President.

I guess it's always possible that religion was not the reason for his win. It may be that great American obsession.

Giuliani may have done great in NYC, Romney may be a successful businessman, McCain served his country, but it all pales when compared to what to many must be Huckabee enviable achievement.

He lost over a hundred pounds and kept it off.

What's the margin of error on this poll anyway?

4.000 people voted for Ron Paul? Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot!

NBC calls it for Obama.

The Huckster pulled this off only because he entered the race so late, people were not aware of his previous record.

The man is a simpleton without even an advanced degree. But maybe to the good people of Arkansas where education has been dumbed down - he's just their speed.

re: #20 zombie

re: #5 thepoguemahone

re: #6 daledog

I haven't been following the details, but it looks like Rudy mostly ignored Iowa, in preference of running a national campaign. He doesn't really need the iowa delegates to win the nomination. Nor does he need the publicity mini-boost that winning Iowa would bring. He's operating on a larger scale.

Same with Fred.

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re: #253 DistantThunder

You are vastly misunderestimating this guy.

re: #249 Opinionated

Giuliani may have done great in NYC, Romney may be a successful businessman, McCain served his country, but it all pales when compared to what to many must be Huckabee enviable achievement.

He lost over a hundred pounds and kept it off.

Win.

Good run for Fred, if it holds up third place is fine and puts in place to blow them out in some future state, not sure which one tho.

Good lord. The GOP caucus-goers have apparently voted for Huckabee.

I read an article about a group of Iowans who had decided a while back to vote for Huckabee. They had finally heard about what he stood for, besides "God," and they were starting to have doubts. "What about all those taxes he raised?" "What about that in-state tuition that he gave for illegal aliens?" The group came up with excuses for each of Hucakbee's misdeeds. These imbeciles never even gave thought to supporting somebody else.

This is just proof that Iowa shouldn't be allowed to have the first primary. In fact, it proves they shouldn't be allowed to have primaries at all.

#253 Distant Thunder
You said it. What the hell is it about Arkansas, anyway? As a nation, are we reduced to drafting our leaders from Arkansas? Sheesh!

Lots of Huckabee haters on tonight.

Me, I will save my hate for Clinton, Edwards and Obama.

Go Fred

re: #45 Charles

Some people were predicting Paul would beat Thompson, but it sure doesn't look that way. McCain and Thompson are tied behind Huckabee and Romney.

Heh ... oh wow - who were those 'some people' ?

Separately -- did you notice Dick Morris left Fred out entirely in yesterday's column he wrote describing what he thought each candidate needed this evening? Hehe, lol ... he really hates Thompson.

oh WOW, FOX just flashed actually numbers, not percentages. Obama's vote - 720 people., which is 35% 4000 voted for Ron Paul for 11%! The turnout by the Republicans is something compared to the Dems.