Not listening.

*fingers in ears*

lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala

Here's video of Ron Paul's grandchildren in 1996....
The ballad of Ron Paul by his grandchildren

It does bother me that Ron Paul disavows comments that were negative that were written at least in his name...

Hmmmm.

Just like me, Ron Paul likes to mention the "trilateralists" in his Christmas greetings. The man is totally, totally normal.

Watch out Charles, if you're not careful the Paulians could start stalking you.

Anyone got a fork?

Picky, picky, picky.

It sounds like Ron Paul. But a number of people around him would have known those details.

Is there any record of him repudiating this stuff when it was published?

Who wrote that, “If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.”

A. “Jimmy the Greek”
B. Fisher DeBerry
C. Robert Byrd
D. Ron Paul

Who wrote, “Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action.”

A. Michael Richards
B. Mel Gibson
C. Rush Limbaugh
D. Ron Paul

“Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.”

A. Marion Berry, former Mayor of Washington, D.C.
B. Paris Hilton
C. Don Imus
D. Ron Paul

Results here

Has this man never heard of READING what you SIGN? Everyone knows that. Does this mean he won't read the bills before him and just scratch his signature?

re: #8 jcm

Sadly this won't make a dent among his supporters.

re: #3 buzzsawmonkey

To be fair, RP could have given this snippet to his newsletter ghostwriter--or even had the ghostwriter write it.

To be fair, someone who knows Paul's personal information could have written it, but Occam's Razor cuts in the other direction - that Paul did know what was going on.

re: #12 EC Marm

Who wrote that, “If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.”

A. “Jimmy the Greek”
B. Fisher DeBerry
C. Robert Byrd
D. Ron Paul

Who wrote, “Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action.”

A. Michael Richards
B. Mel Gibson
C. Rush Limbaugh
D. Ron Paul

“Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.”

A. Marion Berry, former Mayor of Washington, D.C.
B. Paris Hilton
C. Don Imus
D. Ron Paul

Results here

Dang. I got the last one wrong. I was just sure it was Paris.

What's with the cryptic name calling, or did he just think a big, fancy word would impress the readers?

re: #6 Canadian Guy

Hmmmm.

Just like me, Ron Paul likes to mention the "trilateralists" in his Christmas greetings. The man is totally, totally normal.

It just shows that he's a fan of the annual Ironman competition.

I mean, who isn't.

I'm just saying.

re: #16 MandyManners

re: #12 EC Marm

Who wrote that, “If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably fleet-footed they can be.”

A. “Jimmy the Greek”
B. Fisher DeBerry
C. Robert Byrd
D. Ron Paul

Who wrote, “Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action.”

A. Michael Richards
B. Mel Gibson
C. Rush Limbaugh
D. Ron Paul

“Given the inefficiencies of what D.C. laughingly calls the `criminal justice system,’ I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.”

A. Marion Berry, former Mayor of Washington, D.C.
B. Paris Hilton
C. Don Imus
D. Ron Paul

Results here

Dang. I got the last one wrong. I was just sure it was Paris.

Nope, too many big words for it to be Paris.

I'm sorry but I don't buy it. That document is obviously forged and typed in a font that was not around in 1991. There is no way that the above document is authentic and I think this is just a horrible smear campaign against the one man who can save America.

I got this from a Ron Paul website. Any questions?

re: #14 Killgore Trout

re: #8 jcm

Sadly this won't make a dent among his supporters.

*sigh*
I know your right.

Q-burn got it, there's some hope.

Ron Paul is looney and has a cult following. So does the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

re: #21 jcm

True, there's hope for some.

Does it matter if he wrote it or not? It's in his name.

Imagine a senator saying "I voted for the bill, but didn't read it - my staffers did" - would that wash? Of course not.

#20: thanks for clearing that up...

If I hear "the one man that can...." one more time...

but, now the reason I meant to post: This is lame. How many people have wives named Carol and Grandchildren? There are many reasons not to like Ron Paul....or to tie him to the White PowerLESS movement...this just doesn't seem like one.

too attenuated.

Even if this was written by someone else (I doubt it), it's almost more disturbing that Ron Paul could be so disconnected and dysfunctional that he let freaks like this run his newsletter.

The personal details--especially the mention of grandchildren--make it clear that whoever wrote this had a fairly close relationship with Ron Paul. Any way you cut it, this makes his claim that he "didn't know" look ridiculous.

Sayonara, honorable Mr. Paul!

It has been a pleasure serving you.

Now please leave and never befoul our island again.

re: #22 Alibaba

Ron Paul is looney and has a cult following. So does the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

That's an unfair slandering of hairy men in high heels, to speak of them in the same sentence as Ron Paul.

re: #12 EC Marm

Hmmm.......that's the most I've seen of BabbaZee in a long time! :)

re: #26 WrathofG-d

If I hear "the one man that can...." one more time...

but, now the reason I meant to post: This is lame. How many people have wives named Carol and Grandchildren? There are many reasons not to like Ron Paul....or to tie him to the White PowerLESS movement...this just doesn't seem like one.

too attenuated.

*UPDATE*
-Didn't know that this little ditty came from a Ron Paul newsletter.

" Semi-criminal" that sends real chills up my back.

I don't think we have a "semi-justice" system in place or any way of "semi-punishing" "semi-violaters". Preventive Dentention?
I don't care about anyone's prejudices one way or another, but concentration camps for "semi-guilty" people is just a bit too Northern European mid 20th Century failed domestic policy for me.

re: #20 Jetpilot1101

I'm sorry but I don't buy it. That document is obviously forged and typed in a font that was not around in 1991. There is no way that the above document is authentic and I think this is just a horrible smear campaign against the one man who can save America.

I got this from a Ron Paul website. Any questions?

Eewwww! I hope you showered before coming back here!

Only Ron Paul can save America by leaving and taking his supporters with him...

The Osamaniacs are pretty annoying tooo...

Obviously, a clever forgery by the Trilateral, Bildgerberg Illuminati enemies of the Only Man Who Can Save America.

or

A document written by time travelers who went back to 1990 to place this obviously false document and ruin the Presidency of the Only Man Who Can Save America.

Just for shits and giggles, could you make that throb, Charles?

re: #27 Charles

Agreed. I've worked everyday with people and known virtually nothing about their family or grandchildren. If it was a ghost writter it was someone he knew pretty well.

re: #27 Charles

He's history. He maxed out at 8% in New Hampshire, which should have been his high point.

Next!

I'm waiting for the main course: Obama Fricassee.

MMMMmmmmmm -- gamey!

re: #27 Charles

Even if this was written by someone else (I doubt it), it's almost more disturbing that Ron Paul could be so disconnected and dysfunctional that he let freaks like this run his newsletter.

The personal details--especially the mention of grandchildren--make it clear that whoever wrote this had a fairly close relationship with Ron Paul. Any way you cut it, this makes his claim that he "didn't know" look ridiculous.

It's RP's newsletter. I has PR's name on it. It was distributed as coming from RP.

The time to repudiate the sentiments is not when he's been pinned down on them.

re: #36 JammieWearingFool

Such language....sheesh.

/what is going on around here?.....more & more bad language and infantile behavior...harumph!

re: #13 Crimsonfisted

Has this man never heard of READING what you SIGN? Everyone knows that. Does this mean he won't read the bills before him and just scratch his signature?

"I don't owe you one red cent! My 'ghostwriter' signed my name to that IOU!"

re: #40 WrathofG-d

re: #36 JammieWearingFool

Such language....sheesh.

/what is going on around here?.....more & more bad language and infantile behavior...harumph!

Throbbing is all Charles has, the burning bush was already taken. ;-)

re: #39 jcm

The time to repudiate the sentiments is not when he's been pinned down on them.

Exactly!

re: #40 WrathofG-d

re: #36 JammieWearingFool

Such language....sheesh.

/what is going on around here?.....more & more bad language and infantile behavior...harumph!

The throbbing memo is what brought me here. What can I say?

/Fondly reminiscing...

re: #42 jcm

Oh I have nothing against Throbbing. Its the _____s part of ____s & giggles.

Not too long ago I read another profanity laden post.

Not too too long ago LGF had a thread on how the LLL are known for their bad language and curse words.

This is a public site.....remember your manners is what Wrath says.

re: #38 zombie

re: #27 Charles

He's history. He maxed out at 8% in New Hampshire, which should have been his high point.

Next!

I'm waiting for the main course: Obama Fricassee.

MMMMmmmmmm -- gamey!

Wouldn't that be considered racist in your part of the country? /sarc

Ah, here it is.

I was registered the next morning.

OK Lizards.I obviously cannot talk about any details.

Canadians are with you covering your flank in 2010.

Are y'all ready?

I'm serious. We are slow to anger, but we saw a lot of diverted flights come forward on 9/11 and 9/12.

I've often suspected a career in OB/GYN could drive a man mad. Sure, it sounds fun, but dozens, every day, for your entire life? And lots of them aren't real cute.

Kinda O/T, but I got this from my cousin, a retired U.S. Navy Captain about Bill, Hillary, the Gores, etc... (Part 1 of 2)-

I flew 4 Presidential support missions in the C-141 out of Dover AFB, DE.. Two for President Johnson and two for President Nixon.

Johnson was a first class jerk and on the two occasions I flew for him, if the Secret Service and their Liaison in the Pentagon hadn't intervened, we would have had to stay on the airplane for hours while he (Johnson) was off somewhere. Nixon never required that and the four
(4) stops we made with him he was cordial to the Secret Service and to me and my crew.

We had a neighbor when I lived in DC who was part of the secret service presidential detail for many years. His stories of Kennedy and Johnson were the same as those I heard from the guys who flew the presidents' plane.

Yes, Kennedy did have Marilyn Monroe flown in for secret "dates," and LBJ was a typical Texas "good ole boy" womanizer. Nixon, Bush 41, and Carter never cheated on their wives. Clinton cheated, but couldn't match Kennedy or LBJ in style or variety.

The information below is accurate: The elder Bush and current president Bush make it a point to thank and take care of the air crews who fly them around. When the president flies, there are several planes that also go, one carries the armored limo, another the security detail, plus usually a press aircraft.

Both Bushes made it a point to stay home on holidays, so the Air Force and security people could have a day with their families.
Hillary Clinton was arrogant and orally abusive to her security detail. She forbade her daughter, Chelsea , from exchanging pleasantries with them.

Sometimes Chelsea , miffed at her mother's obvious conceit and mean spiritedness, ignored her demands and exchanged pleasantries regardless, but never in her mother's presence. Chelsea really was a nice, kindhearted, and lovely young lady. The consensus opinion was that Chelsea loved her Mom but did not like her. Hillary Clinton was continuously rude and abrasive to those who were charged to protect her life. Her security detail dutifully did their job, as professionals should, but they all loathed her and wanted to be on a different detail.

Any politician too oblivious to know what is being said in their own newsletter is not qualified to be leading this nation. It's smacks of tacit approval previously, and currently reeks of cowardice. For a man who claims to love the Constitution, I'm surprised he doesn't emulate the authors more- I can't imagine George Washington trying to disavow his positions by claiming his underlings wrote for him without his knowledge. Just shameful.

re: #3 buzzsawmonkey

To be fair, RP could have given this snippet to his newsletter ghostwriter--or even had the ghostwriter write it.

I give pluses for critical thinking and fairness. I despise RP tho.

I simply can't see how he could have had these out there and not had them damage any of his prior campaigns in Congress.

re: #47 buzzsawmonkey

Agreed. He's allowed his name to be sullied and has done nothing to counter the claims against him that he's associated with Stormfronters, conspiracy kooks, and written clearly racist statements.

re: #30 Ma Sands

re: #12 EC Marm

Hmmm.......that's the most I've seen of BabbaZee in a long time! :)

I dragged the text version of that newsletter up in May when Babba was around more often. I'm glad someone found a hard copy of it.

re: #8 jcm

Anyone got a fork?

LOL

I'm sorry but I don't buy it. That document is obviously forged and typed in a font that was not around in 1991. There is no way that the above document is authentic and I think this is just a horrible smear campaign against the one man who can save America.

I got this from a Ron Paul website. Any questions?

Oh no. Not another quivering, vibrating memo. Charles?

re: #46 lawhawk

re: #38 zombie

re: #27 Charles

He's history. He maxed out at 8% in New Hampshire, which should have been his high point.

Next!

I'm waiting for the main course: Obama Fricassee.

MMMMmmmmmm -- gamey!

Wouldn't that be considered racist in your part of the country? /sarc

Only if served with fried chicken, black bean, collared greens and watermelon.
*I'm soooooo bad*

re: #45 WrathofG-d

re: #42 jcm

Oh I have nothing against Throbbing. Its the _____s part of ____s & giggles.

Not too long ago I read another profanity laden post.

Not too too long ago LGF had a thread on how the LLL are known for their bad language and curse words.

This is a public site.....remember your manners is what Wrath says.

I agree with you, and tried to make a similar point early on (I was a virtual hatchling). I was, I felt, a minority of one. Now perhaps we're a minority of two?

re: #45 WrathofG-d

re: #42 jcm

Oh I have nothing against Throbbing. Its the _____s part of ____s & giggles.

Not too long ago I read another profanity laden post.

Not too too long ago LGF had a thread on how the LLL are known for their bad language and curse words.

This is a public site.....remember your manners is what Wrath says.

It's a figure of speech. Chill out. If I see you around next time, I'll slip in a couple of dashes and asterisks if I ever deign to use such coarse language.

Part 2 of 3 (sorry)-
Hillary Clinton was despised by the Secret Service as a whole. Former President Bill Clinton was much more amiable than his wife. Often the Secret Service would cringe at the verbal attacks Hillary would use against her husband. They were embarrassed for his sake by the manner and frequency in which she verbally insulted him, sometimes in the presence of the Secret Service, and sometimes behind closed doors. Even behind closed doors Hillary Clinton would scream and holler so loudly that everyone could hear what she was saying. Many felt sorry for President Clinton and most wondered why he tolerated it instead of just divorcing his "attack dog" wife. It was crystal clear that the Clintons neither liked nor respected each other and this was true long before the Monica Lewinsky scandal. Theirs was genuinely a "marriage of convenience."

Chelsea was much closer to her father than her mother, even after the Lewinsky scandal, which hurt her gravely. Bill Clinton did in fact have charisma, and occasionally would smile at or shake hands with his security detail. Still, he always displayed an obvious air of superiority towards them.

His security detail uniformly believed him to be disingenuous, false, and that he did nothing without a motive that in some way would enhance his image and political career. He was polite, but not kind. They did not particularly like him and nobody trusted him.

Al Gore was the male version of Hillary Clinton. They were friendlier toward each other than either of them were towards former President Clinton. They were not intimate, so please don't read that in. They were very close in a political way. Tipper Gore was generally nice and pleasant. She initially liked Hillary but soon after the election she had her "pegged" and no longer liked her or associated with her except for events that were politically obligatory.

Al Gore was far more left wing than Bill Clinton. Al Gore resented Bill Clinton and thought he was too "centrist." He despised all Republicans. His hatred was bitter and this was long before he announced for the Presidency. This hatred was so mething that he and Hillary had in common. They often said as much, even in the presence of their security detail. Neither of them trusted Bill Clinton and, the Secret Service opined, neither of them even liked him. Bill Clinton did have some good qualities, whereas Al Gore and Hillary had none, in the view of their security details.

Al Gore, like Hillary, was very rude and arrogant toward his security detail. He was extremely unappreciative and would not hesitate to scold them in the presence of their peers for minor details over which they had no control. Al Gore also looked down on them, as they finally observed and learned with certainty on one occasion . Al got angry at his offspring and pointed at his security detail and said, "Do you want to grow up and be like them?" Word of this insult by the former Vice-President quickly spread and he became as disliked by the Secret Service as Hillary. Most of them prayed Al Gore would not be elected President, and they really did have private celebrations in a few of their homes after President Bush won. This was not necessarily to celebrate President Bush's election, but to celebrate Al Gore's defeat.

re: #55 Walkar

I simply can't see how he could have had these out there and not had them damage any of his prior campaigns in Congress.

He was in a fairly obscure district and never really made waves before this. He ran as Libertarian candidate and got almost zero votes. I think he's been flying under the radar for a long time.

Part 3 of 3-
Everyone in the Secret Service wants to be on First Lady Laura Bush's detail. Without exception, they concede that she is perhaps the nicest and most kind person they have ever had the privilege of serving. Where Hillary patently refused to allow her picture to be taken with her security detail, Laura Bush doesn't even have to be asked, she offers. She doesn't just shake their hand and say, "Thank you." Very often, she will give members of her detail a kindhearted hug to express her appreciation. There is nothing false about her. This is her genuine nature. Her security detail considers her to be a "breath of fresh air." They joke that comparing Laura Bush with Hillary Clinton is like comparing "Mother Teresa" with the "Wicked Witch of the North."

Likewise, the Secret Service considers President Bush to be a gem of a man to work for. He always treats them with genuine respect and he always trusts and listens to their expert advice. They really like the Crawford, Texas detail. Every time the president goes to Crawford he has a Bar-B-Q for his security detail and he helps serve their meals. He sits with them, eats with them, and talks with them.. He knows each of them by their first name, and calls them by their first name as a show of affection. He always asks about their family, the names of which he always remembers. They believe that he is deeply and genuinely appreciative of their service. They could not like, love, or respect anyone more than President Bush. Most of them did not know they would feel this way, until they had an opportunity to work for him and learn that his manner was genuine and consistent. It has never changed since he began his Presidency. He always treats them with the utmost respect, kindness, and compassion.

Please pass this on. It is important for Americans to have a true inside understanding of their President.. And also the woman who is currently a candidate for president..

Neither Ron Paul nor his supporters, the PaulNuts, are going away. No matter how much crap like this comes out, it just wont matter. As the walls close in the PaulNuts will twist themselves into knots to deny the obvious.

The result will be that Ron Paul and the PaulNuts will become the new Lyndon Larouche cult. These stupid nits will be around for another 15 years.

FYI, My cousin NOT write it, just emailed it to me.

re: #61 Defogger

We aren't alone. There is an entire thread where we LGF'rs agreed that the LLL were debased because of their need to actually post curse words.

re: #62 JammieWearingFool

I'm pretty calm...and have no say around here. Like all else....just my 2c. Appreciate the courtesy though.

CURP polls 3% nationally.
CURP is newsworthy due to a lot of fast money.
CURP is a little weird and has a long list of stupidity written by him or in his name.

BUT CURP is advocating some positions that are widely popular in mainstream Republicanism.

/CURP is gone and forgotten next week. But we should learn from him.

re: #33 Defogger

re: #20 Jetpilot1101

I'm sorry but I don't buy it. That document is obviously forged and typed in a font that was not around in 1991. There is no way that the above document is authentic and I think this is just a horrible smear campaign against the one man who can save America.

I got this from a Ron Paul website. Any questions?

Eewwww! I hope you showered before coming back here!

(1) I'm pretty sure that the font's Courier, which was a standard back then.

(2) More important, the odor says (-: JETPILOT DIDN'T SHOWER! Yech!

Up to 847 comments in the TNR article. What an astounding collections of folks. Some of them a re suffering from delusions of normalcy, other embrace their bat-shit-craziness. The good Dr. has to get credit for convincing all those folks to let their freak(ing idiot) flag fly!

re: #22 Alibaba

Ron Paul is looney and has a cult following. So does the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

So when do his supporters start dressing funny and throwing food around the place?

re: #42 jcm

LOL again!

re: #51 Bob in Breckenridge

Hillary Clinton was arrogant and orally abusive to her security detail. She forbade her daughter, Chelsea , from exchanging pleasantries with them.

What! Are you saying that she believe herself to be superior to the minions assigned to her.

The heck you say.

/

heck = my attempt to tone down my potty mouth out of respect of a sense able request from a respected elder.

! ! ! Ron Paul

/this still cracks me up! :D

re: #65 Bob in Breckenridge

Early in his presidency an article was written by a gay New York actor whose part time job was as a waiter for a catering service. One of his jobs was a dinner in NY for the US UN delegation which Bush attended. This guy admitted to a case of BDS in the article. Until he meet him, after the evening was over Bush came a back to the kitchen and personally thanked everyone of the serving staff.

I don't make it a habit of repeating a post, but this one was in another thread to this topic..... it's RP trying to explain the inexplainable.....

No, it was a ..... a ...... ghost writer that did it, yeah, that's the ticket, a ghost writer who was...........ah........ah.........in the pay of the evil bloggers...........ah......ah........who will not even be......created.......for another 7 or 8 years.......but they....ah...time travelled....yeah, that's the ticket...it was created by ghost writing bloggers from the future trying to make me look bad to prevent me from saving America....../RP

Someone needs to remind RP and his more rabid cultists the first rule of hole digging.....when in a hole, stop digging.

re: #68 WrathofG-d

re: #61 Defogger

We aren't alone. There is an entire thread where we LGF'rs agreed that the LLL were debased because of their need to actually post curse words.

re: #62 JammieWearingFool

I'm pretty calm...and have no say around here. Like all else....just my 2c. Appreciate the courtesy though.

A couple of definitions from the urban dictionary

To do something for amusement or to annoy someone else.

To do something for an abnormal, almost twisted, pleasure

Hey Charles,
Since you're not too busy, and you know code better than Chuck Norris knows how to do round house kicks to the face, i was just wondering; can you make it to where we are all automatically transferred to your newest post? Man, I've been sitting over there like an idiot for 5 minutes, thinking you were testing the sinister comments trick on me.

re: #76 konservo

! ! ! Ron Paul

/this still cracks me up! :D

Yeah, that's some brilliant comedy.

Laguna Dan of Hot Air, I SO owe you a beer! Hell, if you are on here somewhere, come to Austin some time and we'll have some 'ritas at Chuy's!

That's "funny" though, that in all these years, he has not found a way to "show" who was the someone who wrote for him, who also had a wife named his own wife's name, and had grandchildREN too......and has not found a way to show he did not personally know the beliefs of that someone....and found a "good" reason why he would trust such a someone to handle a newsletter about his own self..........."found a way", I say, because it appears he thinks he is trying to show he has been too nice to smear that "someone" by revealing who it was.....

Oh, my stomach is hurting from my brain trying to remain within that spider web long enough to write from his "perspective".....I think I understand now C.S. Lewis' reasoning that he cut short the writing of his book "The Screwtape Letters" because it was so hard to keep thinking "opposite" thoughts in order to "quote" the evil one..... ):

re: #64 Charles

He was in a fairly obscure district and never really made waves before this. He ran as Libertarian candidate and got almost zero votes. I think he's been flying under the radar for a long time.

Him being in an obscure district is possible, but he's run for congress a number of times, and sometimes as a Republican. I hope it's not that his constituency is just 'cool' with these sorts of messages.

Those Paulians just goose step to the beat of a different drummer. Wonder when Judge Napolitano is going to come out and now distance himself from this piece of racist shit.

When fascism comes to America it will be in a blimp wrapped in Ron Paul's newsletters.

re: #85 Walkar

The local media probably isn't savvy to what's going on. If the local media doesn't know, then it's also likely that his constituents aren't going to know - and if it's a strong GOP district, they may vote by party affiliation rather than for or against any individual in that campaign (which is how it is around most of the country - folks just go down the party line).

re: #86 jayzee

First off, its Paulestinians.
Second, it is "racist doody heads."
Don't let me see it again.

'We wish you and your family a wonderful Christmas and may we all begin to confound the Trilateralists in the New Year.'

. Dr. Ronpaul captures the Spirit of the Holidays and interrogates It at his secret compound .

OT:
I hear footsteps....

Candidate Votes Vote % Delegates
Clinton 29,452 39% 0
Obama 26,874 36% 0
Edwards 12,340 17% 0

re: #67 Bob in Breckenridge

Thanks for the story, Sort of reminds me of how Tom Clancy's fictional hero, Jack Ryan treated his secret service detachment. Nice to see it happen in real life!

Hey Charles, maybe you should line these up against output from Wordperfect 5.0 on a dot matrix printer. Make sure TNR isnt pulling a Rathergate on us :)

This feels like Christmas morning to me, I love seeing "Dr." Ron Paul exposed for who he really is.

re: #89 bengemima

re: #86 jayzee

First off, its Paulestinians.
Second, it is "racist doody heads."
Don't let me see it again.

Sorry. Would it be cruel if I started hitting their blogs and letting them know the supreme leader has called for a mass suicide in the bunker at midnight?

re: #67 Bob in Breckenridge

FYI, My cousin NOT write it, just emailed it to me.

Bob, I lived in Boulder for many years. Got to know a certain SS guy who had worked for a number of executive family members over the years. His experiences predates your info, but I always found it interesting that he loved to work for the Ford's in Vail. Betty was a hoot. I'll say no more.

That Christmas greeting is freaking one person out at the Ron Paul Forums

[Link: www.ronpaulforums.com...]

re: #2 Killgore Trout

Here's video of Ron Paul's grandchildren in 1996....
The ballad of Ron Paul by his grandchildren

My eyes, she burns!

re: #33 Defogger

re: #20 Jetpilot1101

I'm sorry but I don't buy it. That document is obviously forged and typed in a font that was not around in 1991. There is no way that the above document is authentic and I think this is just a horrible smear campaign against the one man who can save America.

I got this from a Ron Paul website. Any questions?

Eewwww! I hope you showered before coming back here!

Anyone on LGF—given LGF's past—would have sense enough to drag out an old typewriter to forge a newsletter on. Either that or use Microsoft Word™ with default settings.

From my research back in May when I first saw the contents of this subscription newsletter(s), I thought what a great class action lawsuit this would make. People paid to subscribe to the 'thoughts of Ron Paul' yet he claimed that he used a ghostwriter.

Ha I recognize that word processor program with the annoying left and right justify feature that s p r e ad out the text to make sure the entire column width was used. I call Word Perfect.

re: #95 song_and_dance_man

Talk about some "buck" teeth on the lead singer!

re: #72 buzzsawmonkey

re: #54 Hard Right

Thank you. I also despise RP, as a number of my past posts have, I think, made clear.

Haha, no questions about that.

Not that I doubt that RP may have written it, but has anyone seen independent verification of an original document, other than that from TNR?

It's kinda like believing anything CNN, MFNBC, or A(wt)P publishes, isn't it?

re: #94 jayzee

re: #89 bengemima

re: #86 jayzee

First off, its Paulestinians.
Second, it is "racist doody heads."
Don't let me see it again.

Sorry. Would it be cruel if I started hitting their blogs and letting them know the supreme leader has called for a mass suicide in the bunker at midnight?

Right now, they populate 2 square miles in Nevada, but when they get the word they will valiantly take action, bombing unsegregated schools and Popeye's Chicken restaurants.
Soon after that, America will try to appease them, and give them more land...

re: #100 EC Marm

From my research back in May when I first saw the contents of this subscription newsletter(s), I thought what a great class action lawsuit this would make. People paid to subscribe to the 'thoughts of Ron Paul' yet he claimed that he used a ghostwriter.

Damn Joos.
/rp

re: #88 lawhawk

re: #85 Walkar

The local media probably isn't savvy to what's going on. If the local media doesn't know, then it's also likely that his constituents aren't going to know - and if it's a strong GOP district, they may vote by party affiliation rather than for or against any individual in that campaign (which is how it is around most of the country - folks just go down the party line).

On the subject, I'm just grabbing this from wiki, but still:
In 2007, with the quotes resurfacing, New York Times Magazine writer Christopher Caldwell concurred that Paul denied the allegations "quite believably, since the style diverges widely from his own,"[10] but added that Paul's "response to the accusations was not transparent."[10]

Though that is the NYT Magazine, which isn't quite the most neutral source to call up (and neither is wikipedia), it's odd to see them defending any breed of Republican, even one who's as much a pariah from the party as Paul is.

re #67--thanks bob for that--but really is no surprise- you can just feel their disdain for those who "serve" them- they are "royalty" after all! p.s. greetings from longmont!

re: #105 bengemima

re: #94 jayzee

re: #89 bengemima

re: #86 jayzee

First off, its Paulestinians.
Second, it is "racist doody heads."
Don't let me see it again.

Sorry. Would it be cruel if I started hitting their blogs and letting them know the supreme leader has called for a mass suicide in the bunker at midnight?

Right now, they populate 2 square miles in Nevada, but when they get the word they will valiantly take action, bombing unsegregated schools and Popeye's Chicken restaurants.
Soon after that, America will try to appease them, and give them more land...

If only I weren't so blind, ignorant and foolish, I too could've been a great Paulistinian Freedom Fighter.

No man or woman of color is safe! The Paulestinians will liberate every inner city YMCA, every Hip Hop club, every square inch of this land that is rightfully theirs.
Every Schlotsky's Deli, every bank! And when they die, they are promised 72 hookers and a seat in the White house for a day.

re: #66 Mr. E. Train

Neither Ron Paul nor his supporters, the PaulNuts, are going away. No matter how much crap like this comes out, it just wont matter. As the walls close in the PaulNuts will twist themselves into knots to deny the obvious.

The result will be that Ron Paul and the PaulNuts will become the new Lyndon Larouche cult. These stupid nits will be around for another 15 years.

I agree. There's talk of RP running as a third party candidate. Won't that be fun?

re: #67 Bob in Breckenridge

You know it's funny, before ever reading your post, I have an acquaintance in Philadelphia Branch of the FBI.

Albeit I forgot the whole story, but more or less had a degree of proximity to the WH in the 90's, IIRC, may have had some very close friends in detail who pretty much claim the same thing.

Bill was a bullshit artist, but charasmatic, Hillary was downright nasty.

This was about 5 years ago now.

I think the Travel Office is enough proof of her character.

"making America freer and thus truer to her own heritage"

What does he mean? Specifically? Just how far back in America's heritage does mr. paul want to go? At what point does he feel we'd be properly reverted to the Founder's intent? Would he strip the Constitution of all amendments? After all- the Bill of Rights was not originally a part of the Constitution- they were ratified four years after the Constitution. Would he consider Madison et al to be "Trilateralists and big-government types"?

Inquiring minds want to know.

re: #114 Defogger

There's a nazi party or something I am sure, whose ticket he can run on.

re: #47 buzzsawmonkey

When he used the weasel locution "I take moral responsibility", he was toast. Particularly since he excused himself beforehand.

That's a wink-wink, nudge-nudge end-run. Either he's responsible or he's not.

It comforts me to know that the moment I heard him raving about the gold standard and fiat money, I knew he was a loon.

re: #116 Sharmuta

"making America freer and thus truer to her own heritage"

What does he mean? Specifically? Just how far back in America's heritage does mr. paul want to go? At what point does he feel we'd be properly reverted to the Founder's intent? Would he strip the Constitution of all amendments? After all- the Bill of Rights was not originally a part of the Constitution- they were ratified four years after the Constitution. Would he consider Madison et al to be "Trilateralists and big-government types"?

Inquiring minds want to know.

...ever seen Roots?

re: #117 jayzee

re: #114 Defogger

There's a nazi party or something I am sure, whose ticket he can run on.

But I know who his running mate will be.

This tripe went out under his name for years and years and years.

He may not have penned the words, but it clearly represented his beliefs.

I'm just sad that all the young people who are out on YouTube and Facebook, etc., are now going to think that being a libertarian means being a racist homophobic anti-Semitic kook.

In all seriousness, should this bastard try and run for congress again, he needs to be taken out politically. We should all support his opponent.

Hillary Clinton 37,037 39% 0
Barack Obama 34,196 36% 0
John Edwards 15,715 17% 0
Bill Richardson 4,399 5% 0
Dennis Kucinich 1,379 1% 0
Joe Biden 182 0% 0
Mike Gravel 129 0% 0
Chris Dodd 80 0% 0
39% of precincts reporting

Getting closer.

re: #123 VegasRick

Hillary Clinton 37,037 39% 0
Barack Obama 34,196 36% 0
John Edwards 15,715 17% 0
Bill Richardson 4,399 5% 0
Dennis Kucinich 1,379 1% 0
Joe Biden 182 0% 0
Mike Gravel 129 0% 0
Chris Dodd 80 0% 0
39% of precincts reporting

Getting closer.

Why am I rooting for Obama?

re: #119 bengemima

No.

It seems many Paulbots have finally gotten a clue and are seeing too many coincidences spanning several decades.
[Link: www.ronpaulforums.com...]
This thread is pretty good.

re: #115 formercorpsman

I think the Travel Office is enough proof of her character.

Yeah. That doesn't get mentioned nearly often enough. Imagine what the MSM would have said if the Bush admin. had done that!

re: #114 Defogger

There's talk of RP running as a third party candidate. Won't that be fun?

Not from Ron Paul.

Ron Paul: No Third-Party Bid for Me

“The thought does not cross my mind about a third party,” Paul told us today after speaking at the Americans for Prosperity conference, a forum for fiscal conservatives. “I did it and I know what the problems are. Unfortunately this country does not offer democratic opportunities. There’s too many rules and laws and bias against an alternative party whether you’re left or right or wherever you’re coming from. You can’t get on debates, you can’t get on ballots.”

Paul’s camp has shot down suggestions since he launched his campaign that he might try a third party bid. But the question seems increasingly salient after Paul’s recent financial successes. He raised a notable $5 million in the third quarter and reported $5.3 million in the bank — more than candidates like Sen. John McCain of Arizona. Paul insisted, however, that he’s not interested in being a potential spoiler in 2008. “That’s the way it stands,” he said.

/don't know how much clearer he could be on the subject

Okay this is funny....

The Paulians are toast and they know it. You can tell by visiting Digg.com.

[Link: digg.com...]

You haven't been able to visit the "News" section of that site for the past year without the first three pages being populated by "Bush=Hitler" or "Ron Paul=Our Savior" posts. Right now? Nada, nothing, zip...

VERY LITTLE about politics altogether as a matter of fact. Just a few puny posts about Mike Gravel and one calling Bill O'Reilly a blowhard.

re: #124 jcm

re: #123 VegasRick

Hillary Clinton 37,037 39% 0
Barack Obama 34,196 36% 0
John Edwards 15,715 17% 0
Bill Richardson 4,399 5% 0
Dennis Kucinich 1,379 1% 0
Joe Biden 182 0% 0
Mike Gravel 129 0% 0
Chris Dodd 80 0% 0
39% of precincts reporting

Getting closer.

Why am I rooting for Obama?

I'm not. Just updating all.

re: #124 jcm

Why are you WATCHING that stuff, my friend?!

re: #130 VegasRick

If Obama and Hillary keep splitting states, that increases the chances of a brokered convention and keeps the Democrats fighting each other than taking the time to build up the war chest for the fight with the GOP.

re: #73 zdomain

So when do his supporters start dressing funny and throwing food around the place?

I--I feel a song coming on

COLUMBIA
It was great when it all began
I was a regular RonPaul fan
But it was over when he had the plan
To start working on the campaign, man
Now the only thing that gives me hope
Is my love of a certain dope
Rose tints my world
Keeps me safe from my trouble and pain

ROCKY
I am just seventeen years old
And I want a standard of gold
And somebody should be told
My internetz hasn't been controlled
Now the only thing I've come to trust
Is RonPaul.com and Digg, be cussed!
Rose tints my world and
Keeps me safe from my trouble and pain

BRAD
It's beyond me help me Mommy!
I'll be good you'll see
Take this dream away
What's this? See here
Fifth in New Hampshire
What's come over me?
Whoa! Here it comes again

JANET
I feel released bad times deceased
My confidence has decreased reality is here
The game has been disbanded
My mind has been expanded
It's a gas that RonPaul's landed!
Thought he was so sincere

*FANFARE*

RONPAUL
Whatever happened to Pat Buchanan
That Rubenesque wool draped frame
As it clung to his thigh
How I started to cry
Coz I wanted to be viewed just the same
Give yourself over to conspiracy goodness
Swim the warm waters
Of Stormfront donors
Bilderberg nightmares beyond any measure
And Trilateral day-dreamers
To treasure forever
Can't you just see it
Wo-ho hoooo

Don't dream it, be it
Don't dream it, be it
Don't dream it, be it
Don't dream it, be it
Don't dream it, be it
Don't dream it, be it
Don't dream it, be it....

re: #131 pre-Boomer Marine brat

re: #124 jcm

Why are you WATCHING that stuff, my friend?!

Good question, maybe I'm hoping a house will fall on her.

re: #85 Walkar

Someone on Hot Air remarked that his constituents are finding out a lot they didn't know before, and they're not happy. On the other hand, the same someone thought RP was in the Senate, so take it for what it's worth.

"Hello, I'm Ron Paul. I'd just like to say 'Whoops'! Oh, and, uhhh, Ron Paul", Ron Paul bleats slavishly.

re: #128 Killian Bundy

re: #114 Defogger

There's talk of RP running as a third party candidate. Won't that be fun?

Not from Ron Paul.

Ron Paul: No Third-Party Bid for Me

“The thought does not cross my mind about a third party,” Paul told us today after speaking at the Americans for Prosperity conference, a forum for fiscal conservatives. “I did it and I know what the problems are. Unfortunately this country does not offer democratic opportunities. There’s too many rules and laws and bias against an alternative party whether you’re left or right or wherever you’re coming from. You can’t get on debates, you can’t get on ballots.”

Paul’s camp has shot down suggestions since he launched his campaign that he might try a third party bid. But the question seems increasingly salient after Paul’s recent financial successes. He raised a notable $5 million in the third quarter and reported $5.3 million in the bank — more than candidates like Sen. John McCain of Arizona. Paul insisted, however, that he’s not interested in being a potential spoiler in 2008. “That’s the way it stands,” he said.

/don't know how much clearer he could be on the subject

For once, I find myself wanting to believe him! Heh.

re: #134 jcm

It was just a movie!

Heck, I'm having way too much fun, ignoring the vote-count, watching some of you here obsessing over it.

(-:

re: #132 lawhawk

re: #130 VegasRick

If Obama and Hillary keep splitting states, that increases the chances of a brokered convention and keeps the Democrats fighting each other than taking the time to build up the war chest for the fight with the GOP.

From your keyboard to God's ear. These people are dangerous!

Paul lost my vote when he bloviated on national TV about 9/11 being the fault of the US, no matter what his other qualities. With one statement he becomes the candidate of choice for every one of America's enemies.

My opinion of him as a fringe fuckwit hasn't changed despite his fooling the RP faithful with Constitution-stroking. We need a President who lives in the real world, AND is a Constitution champion (a real one, not the RP variety).

Obama 37 Hildabeast 39 as the souther districts start to come in...

re: #70 pre-Boomer Marine brat

(1) I'm pretty sure that the font's Courier, which was a standard back then.

(2) More important, the odor says (-: JETPILOT DIDN'T SHOWER! Yech!

I recall Pica (10char/inch) and Elite (12char/inch) on an actual typewriter. Pica resembled (modern) Courier, but I think the sample above is Elite.

The author of the New Republic article wrote: "Some of the earlier newsletters are signed by him, though the vast majority of the editions I saw contain no bylines at all. Complicating matters, many of the unbylined newsletters were written in the first person, implying that Paul was the author." So there were some newsletters signed by Ron Paul, and others written in the first person. Now, if Ron Paul is claiming he didn't know what was goin' on...I'm reminded of that scene from Blazing Saddles -- Harvey Korman handing over documents for the mayor, played by Mel Brooks (IIRC), rubber stamping his signature onto documents...Yeah, now that's the sort of "crazy uncle" we'd like running Amerika...

re: #65 Bob in Breckenridge

Bob, what a nice piece to read.

I've mentioned to Charles that my cousin is a reporter (one of the MSM folks now currently in New Hampshire), and has worked in the White House for a time. I don't want to give the name because he would be in hot water if this sort of stuff were known.

Cuz shared a recent story whereupon arriving at the White House Correspondent's dinner slightly late, he found that he needed to subtly pass along a message to a co-worker seated near his boss. No, not his immediate boss, but the president of the media organization where he is employed. Catching the attention of the guy sitting next to his boss, he made hand gestures to convey that he didn't want his boss to know a message was being passed. The guy understood, received the message, then proceeded to subtly pass along, again via hand signals, the message to the co-worker.

Cuz paused for dramatic effect and finished the story by saying that "the guy" passing along his message was none other than Dubya.

Cuz went to Israel with Laura Bush and said similar positive things about her.

I would suppose Cuz is liberal (Charles has found fault, as have I at times) but Cuz is generally fair. He thinks the world of Dubya, loves Crawford, TX, and believes that Kerry would have been the worst president in the history of the Union.

re: #51 Bob in Breckenridge

From what I've read, Johnson used to gross out his aides by conducting business on the "throne." He delighted in grossing them out. He got that Silver Star for flying through a combat zone, as an observer, at around 25,000 feet. It certainly wasn't for something heroic.

"Camelot" was a figment of the WH Press Office's imagination. Clinton's main problem in that regard was that far fewer people were willing to cut him that much slack, and from all accounts, Hillary is far more poisonous than Jackie ever was.

Take a look at some of the articles on the Real Clear Politics website. Hillary's trophy is tarnishing rapidly. Heh. 8D

.... Side note: Charles, have you considered letting us use smileys? I know it'd be more work for you, but it could be fun. Check out the forums on Big Head Press for an example or three.... :)

re: #142 abolitionist

Y'know, could be. Maybe everything that old looks like Courier to me.

(hmmm, THAT's the name of that guy in the mirror in the morning!)

re: #140 wvobiwan

Paul lost my vote when he bloviated on national TV about 9/11 being the fault of the US, no matter what his other qualities. With one statement he becomes the candidate of choice for every one of America's enemies.

My opinion of him as a fringe fuckwit hasn't changed despite his fooling the RP faithful with Constitution-stroking. We need a President who lives in the real world, AND is a Constitution champion (a real one, not the RP variety).

"Lost" your vote?

Can someone please explain in normal language, not conspiracyfreakspeak, what is a "Trilateralist"?

re: #126 Canadian Guy

It seems many Paulbots have finally gotten a clue and are seeing too many coincidences spanning several decades.
[Link: www.ronpaulforums.com...]
This thread is pretty good.

Now you've gone and made me feel bad for the Paulbots. Are people really that stupid? They didn't hear the "code" before. Unreal. How did stupid people have so much money?

Think RP has already converted the funds to Kugerrands and buried them in his basement?

re: #126 Canadian Guy

It seems many Paulbots have finally gotten a clue and are seeing too many coincidences spanning several decades.
[Link: www.ronpaulforums.com...]
This thread is pretty good.

WOW! I'm glad I took the time to read it. I don't know how big ronpaulforms is, but this is a major, major retreat.

RP = Toast.
RIP

re: #148 Alouette

Can someone please explain in normal language, not conspiracyfreakspeak, what is a "Trilateralist"?

It is a member or follower of the Trilateral Commission, also wikipedia.

No Bilderbergers? Sheesh, what a lightweight.

re: #148 Alouette

Can someone please explain in normal language, not conspiracyfreakspeak, what is a "Trilateralist"?

Google "Trilateral Commission".

re: #148 Alouette

Can someone please explain in normal language, not conspiracyfreakspeak, what is a "Trilateralist"?

/The Trilateral Commission

re: #148 Alouette

Can someone please explain in normal language, not conspiracyfreakspeak, what is a "Trilateralist"?

I think they're akin to the Council on Foreign Relations, another hobgoblin of the black helicopter crowd.

I guess I could look it up, but I'm afraid they'll trace me and have me killed...........

Was this a faux paul?

re: #148 Alouette

...In other words, it was necessary for the international upper class to band together to protect its interests, and to ensure, in the developed nations, that political leaders were brought to power who would ensure that the global financial interests (of the Rockefellers and the other ruling elites) would be protected...

Thanks for moving me to look it up.....I'd never comprehended it either.....

re: #155 macduff

re: #148 Alouette

Can someone please explain in normal language, not conspiracyfreakspeak, what is a "Trilateralist"?

I think they're akin to the Council on Foreign Relations, another hobgoblin of the black helicopter crowd.

I guess I could look it up, but I'm afraid they'll trace me and have me killed...........

Excuse me while I go hide.

re: #155 macduff

We wouldn't do that.

re: #20 Jetpilot1101

I'm sorry but I don't buy it. That document is obviously forged and typed in a font that was not around in 1991. There is no way that the above document is authentic and I think this is just a horrible smear campaign against the one man who can save America.

I got this from a Ron Paul website. Any questions?

Wordperfect and "courier" were very much around in 1991.

Charles posts:

The personal details—especially the mention of grandchildren—show that whoever wrote this had a fairly close relationship with Ron Paul.

That is true of Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr.

Paul has released a statement denying that he wrote them, but I'm not convinced. How the heck could he allow someone to publish newsletters under his name for a decade with that kind of content and he didn't know about it? Did he not care what went out under his name?

If that's the kind of guy he is, I don't think he'd be fit for dogcatcher.

re: #159 jayzee

re: #155 macduff

We wouldn't do that.

I'M SORRY! I didn't write that....someone else wrote it in my name. I didn't read it. Yeah....that's the ticket.

re: #162 lawhawk

Paul has released a statement denying that he wrote them, but I'm not convinced. How the heck could he allow someone to publish newsletters under his name for a decade with that kind of content and he didn't know about it? Did he not care what went out under his name?

If that's the kind of guy he is, I don't think he'd be fit for dogcatcher.

Great guy. Any of this negative stuff comes out and he claims ignorance. I suspect that ignorance is his normal state.

I see nobody has mentioned the Dearborn Independent in this thread yet.

Of course what's written in the Ron Paul newsletter is not as bad as the Dearborn Independent, but I'm somewhat reminded of that situation. (It was only published in my name.)

re: #153 Charles

re: #148 Alouette

Can someone please explain in normal language, not conspiracyfreakspeak, what is a "Trilateralist"?

Google "Trilateral Commission".

Jimmy Carter and a heap o'Democrats belong to this krew.

re: #147 macduff

re: #140 wvobiwan

Paul lost my vote when he bloviated on national TV about 9/11 being the fault of the US, no matter what his other qualities. With one statement he becomes the candidate of choice for every one of America's enemies.

My opinion of him as a fringe fuckwit hasn't changed despite his fooling the RP faithful with Constitution-stroking. We need a President who lives in the real world, AND is a Constitution champion (a real one, not the RP variety).

"Lost" your vote?

Probably should have said, "lost any chance of getting my vote". My bad.

re: #148 Alouette

A member of the Trilateral Commission (sort of a talking-club for rich, politically minded eggheads about the economic/political future of the world), or one who reads their turgid papers.

The Trilateral Commission is utterly irrelevant, but that never stopped the conspiracy theorists.

re: #166 Alouette

re: #153 Charles

re: #148 Alouette

Can someone please explain in normal language, not conspiracyfreakspeak, what is a "Trilateralist"?

Google "Trilateral Commission".

Jimmy Carter and a heap o'Democrats belong to this krew.

Both dems and republicans belong. George HW Bush was a member and some others. Some claim they really didn't participate. (the Ron Paul defense?)

re: #168 Dianna

re: #148 Alouette

A member of the Trilateral Commission (sort of a talking-club for rich, politically minded eggheads about the economic/political future of the world), or one who reads their turgid papers.

The Trilateral Commission is utterly irrelevant, but that never stopped the conspiracy theorists.

Kind of like the UN, huh?

re: #163 MacDuff

ROFL!

re: #165 MagnaniomousCoward

I see nobody has mentioned the Dearborn Independent in this thread yet.

Of course what's written in the Ron Paul newsletter is not as bad as the Dearborn Independent, but I'm somewhat reminded of that situation. (It was only published in my name.)

I used to work at Ford World Headquarters, and it always creeped me out to see old Henry's statue in the lobby.

But then there is the flag of Israel flying right out there on Michigan Ave.

re: #168 Dianna

It's only irrelevant because we want it to look that way. It's all part of the plan.

re: #165 MagnaniomousCoward

You are aware that your nic is mis-spelled?

Magnanimous.

re: #168 Dianna

re: #148 Alouette

A member of the Trilateral Commission (sort of a talking-club for rich, politically minded eggheads about the economic/political future of the world), or one who reads their turgid papers.

The Trilateral Commission is utterly irrelevant, but that never stopped the conspiracy theorists.

Anyone who has dealt with a large committee or commision know how difficult it is for them to get anything done, or keep anything secret. It always appeared to me to be an academic exercise, and nothing more.

re: #168 Dianna

re: #148 Alouette

A member of the Trilateral Commission (sort of a talking-club for rich, politically minded eggheads about the economic/political future of the world), or one who reads their turgid papers.

The Trilateral Commission is utterly irrelevant, but that never stopped the conspiracy theorists.

As member in good standing fo the Trilateral Commission, Bliderbergers, PNAC, CFR, and Elders of Zion (honorary member) I resent that we're irrelevant. I stay and argue but I have to catch a black helicopter out the airport and spray some chemtrails tonight.

re: #169 zdomain

re: #166 Alouette

re: #153 Charles

re: #148 Alouette

Can someone please explain in normal language, not conspiracyfreakspeak, what is a "Trilateralist"?

Google "Trilateral Commission".

Jimmy Carter and a heap o'Democrats belong to this krew.

Both dems and republicans belong. George HW Bush was a member and some others. Some claim they really didn't participate. (the Ron Paul defense?)

Ron's probably just pissed that they wouldn't let him in.......they probably require a brain for membership and the Grand Wizard of Odds hasn't yet given him one.

re: #170 MacDuff

Worse.

You have to be invited to join the Trilateral Commission. I refer you to Groucho Marx.

re: #175 zdomain

re: #168 Dianna

re: #148 Alouette

A member of the Trilateral Commission (sort of a talking-club for rich, politically minded eggheads about the economic/political future of the world), or one who reads their turgid papers.

The Trilateral Commission is utterly irrelevant, but that never stopped the conspiracy theorists.

Anyone who has dealt with a large committee or commision know how difficult it is for them to get anything done, or keep anything secret. It always appeared to me to be an academic exercise, and nothing more.

It strikes me as something of a glorified international think tank.

re: #174 Dianna

But! You are only 3 months older than that Lizard! Gotta show respect..... :)

re: #177 MacDuff

I always wanted to join, mostly to annoy people. I don't know if they would let me in. The meetings could be in fun places.

Sorry to be obtuse, but how are Paul's comments about King "racist"? I don't doubt that Paul is, in fact, a racist, along with being an anti-Semite. But the example provided doesn't prove the case. Did Abernathy really say King molested him? If so, the claim may be true, for all I know. It is a fact that King plagiarized his dissertation. It is also true that he was a communist sympathizer and a womanizer. My husband had the unpleasant duty of following him around for many long months and jokingly describes his sexual habits as "polymorphous perverse". Merely noting these widely-known facts doesn't make one a racist. Not that Paul isn't still a scum-bag on lots of other grounds.

re: #173 jayzee

Have you ever tried to read one of their papers? Even though written by paid staff, they're still incredibly dull, and usually state platitudes.

I think they should just issue - yearly - a "Wouldn't it be nice if everyone were nice?" card or something. It would annoy me less.

re: #178 Dianna

re: #170 MacDuff

Worse.

You have to be invited to join the Trilateral Commission. I refer you to Groucho Marx.

Good one!

re: #175 zdomain

Not even that. It flatters the self-importance of the members that the conspiracists take them seriously. God knows, no one else does!

re: #176 jcm

Spray a couple for me. I love the sight of freaked-out idiots.

re: #180 Ma Sands

Does that mean his/her nic isn't mis-spelled?

re: #185 Dianna

re: #175 zdomain

Not even that. It flatters the self-importance of the members that the conspiracists take them seriously. God knows, no one else does!

He's already a member of a club like that......Congress!

All I can say is Ron Paul is a freak. He may have a few isolated ideas that seem okay, but his freaky-ness trumps everything. He's a loser.
White supremacists like and support him, and he may even be one. Not acceptable behavior in 2008.

Stay away.

re: #129 thareb

re: #129 thareb

You're right, the perpetual swarm of Paulian diggbots seems to have abated a bit.

Here are the digg comments on the "Angry White Man" article. A few of the Paulians are even expressing some concerns:

I do not have blind faith in Ron Paul and if this is true (it appears to be) then so be it, I can't endorse him. It is a shame as I have spent countless hours and a good deal of money supporting his message...

I'm not giving up my vote for Paul yet, but I needed to state that his supporters aren't all sheep. I would like to hear a response from his campaign before I make my decision.

Of course, most of them are the same usual swarming moronic Ronbots spouting their usual non sequiturs:

Look at his record: he is not what you claim he is. He is against the drug war: the most racist thing this country has ever done since save for slavery.

Sometimes they're so busy typing, digging down, logging out, and logging in again as their other digg identities that they don't have time to even make sense, as in this one:

Obvious hitpiece is obvious.

To me, the biggest change in the hum of the diggbot swarm, aside from its decrease in intensity, is that they seem to have backed off of the intense, racially-based hatred for a change. I guess they realized all the "die you f*cking jew liars" stuff would be sort of counterproductive when trying to argue against the claim that RP is a racist.

re: #185 Dianna

re: #175 zdomain

Not even that. It flatters the self-importance of the members that the conspiracists take them seriously. God knows, no one else does!

Not too fast. I always take rich people seriously (one of them might give me money someday).

/politician mode off

re: #188 MacDuff

Oh, I dunno know. He managed to be kind to the shrimp industry in his district from Congress. I can't think of the last thing the Trilateral Commission showered largesse upon.

re: #187 Dianna

Well, as to the dictionary spelling, it doesn't fit....but I know many Lizards do funny things with their nics on purpose......just leaving room for doubt, here..... :)

re: #191 Defogger

Rich people are intensely careful with their money. Their pennies scream in agony; they keep the thermostat low and wear cashmere sweaters; and they invest wisely.

You need to meet someone semi-rich. They're much readier to throw money at stuff.

re: #65 Bob in Breckenridge

Hillary Clinton was arrogant and orally abusive to her security detail. She forbade her daughter, Chelsea , from exchanging pleasantries with them.

Bob, you did us all a favor here. You now gave me a reason why I think poor Chelsea looks in the campaign trail as if she really wanted to be anywhere else but by her mother's side. The way her eyes speak about her total give-a-rat attitude towards her mother shouts it out. And Bill, oh please! Why would anyone want that man back in the WH as First Gigiolo Gentelman?

God bless President and Mrs. Bush. They're obviously the nicest, most genuine people in that place. It's a shame they have to return to private life next year... I'm sure many Secret Service would rather retire or resign than to watch Hillary.

Anybody else catch the Ron Paul speech CNN aired around 8:45 p.m.? Anybody with video capture capabilities? There was a point where, right after he declared intent to dismantle the Federal Reserve, the Paulians went wild. The awkward little man attempted to "Raise the Roof," but his shoulder pads seemed to prevent full extension. So he just grinned and jiggled. It was ... priceless. Anybody catch it, or better yet, capture it?

re: #126 Canadian Guy

It seems many Paulbots have finally gotten a clue and are seeing too many coincidences spanning several decades.
[Link: www.ronpaulforums.com...]
This thread is pretty good.

Yep. Like this comment:

I need to hear something forceful from Dr. Paul in terms of both denunciation and explanation. The statement by the campaign today was a good start (better than anything we've gotten before) but ultimately it is not suffficient.

I wonder what Ron has to say for himself now!

Ground Control to Crazy Ron,
Your circuit's dead, there's something wrong,
Can you hear me, Crazy Ron?
Can you hear me, Crazy Ron?

re: #193 Ma Sands

Fair enough.

I await MC's reply.

forgot to specify, 8:45 Central, 9:45 p.m. Eastern

Here's the latest Paulian brainfart

If you can't win it steal it. Oh please let me tell them about Herr Paul calling for a mass suicide. Please.

re: #172 Alouette

I used to work at Ford World Headquarters, and it always creeped me out to see old Henry's statue in the lobby.

But then there is the flag of Israel flying right out there on Michigan Ave.

Well, Henry tried to make up for it partially, even if he used to hold the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to be accurate even if they might be fake. (Far ahead of his CBS on all fronts, it seems.)

After his death, the Ford company has had an examplary record on racial issues, as far as I see.

re: #174 Dianna

re: #165 MagnaniomousCoward

You are aware that your nic is mis-spelled?

Magnanimous.

Yes, I noticed right after registering. I would have re-registered if I had been lucky enough to come upon an open window. Perhaps I can get Charles to change it for me...

re: #199 mr_bitterness

Sorry, but if it was good, I'm sure it will show up somewhere.

re: #201 MagnaniomousCoward

You might drop him an e-mail request. I know how things happen.

re: #182 allahtoyou

Oh, my --that was your first comment ever.......

What position did your husband hold, in following MLK for that period of time.....?

Are we done with this topic?

Pity. I was having fun. Crankery is a hobby of mine.

military intelligence on loan to the FBI

I just went over to the !RONPAUL! forum, and it actually made me a little sad. These people have so much emotion invested in !RONPAUL! as the savior of the country, and their faith has just been ruined. It's like finding out your religion is actually a cult...

re: #207 Vikingstar

I just went over to the !RONPAUL! forum, and it actually made me a little sad. These people have so much emotion invested in !RONPAUL! as the savior of the country, and their faith has just been ruined. It's like finding out your religion is actually a cult...

Kool Aid for everyone and since they've given it all to Paul, I'm buying.

re: #193 Ma Sands

re: #187 Dianna

Well, as to the dictionary spelling, it doesn't fit....but I know many Lizards do funny things with their nics on purpose......just leaving room for doubt, here..... :)

Uhm. That spelling ..... It's a METAPHOR. It's SARCASM. It was INTENTIONAL. My DOG WALKED OVER THE KEYBOARD. It was a GHOST WRITER. It was a ZIONIST CONSPIRACY TO RIDICULE ME.

oh, wait

It is an EQUALLY VALID SPELLING, since it's all just a cultural preference.

re: #189 FrogMarch

All I can say is Ron Paul is a freak. He may have a few isolated ideas that seem okay, but his freaky-ness trumps everything. He's a loser.
White supremacists like and support him, and he may even be one. Not acceptable behavior in 2008.

Stay away.

I saw a great quote about Ron Paul, I believe it was on the NRO site. It went something like:

'He starts with the seeds of sensability and they blossom into insanity'

Come to think of it, that could be said of a lot of truly scary people throughout history...

Look, I knew Joy in college and she wasn't a racist. This is stupid.

Not so Stealth
The mega-expensive stealth fighter-bombers that missed their targets in Panama, and which the government covered up aren't so stealth either. A French news magazine reports that he Saudi radar can "see" the American stealth planes that are stationed there for the war against Iraq, although they are supposedly invisible to radar.

The stealth planes can get close (10.5) miles than a regular aircraft before being detected, but not so close that they avoid being shot down by an alert ack-ack crew.

This man wants to be our president! I freaking really see where Paulnuts get their craziness from! He is completely off the rocker on this statement. He quotes French sources of all places without specifying actually which one. He quotes a myth about the Fighter missing the barracks in Panama. He even claims that he knows exactly how close the plane can get by the half mile. He claims yet another conspiracy cover up just in this first paragraph. What a fucking nut.

By the way. Here's Ron Paulbot's latest stunt. The world's highest billboard.

re: #209 MagnaniomousCoward

I like that! Go with it!

re: #208 jayzee

re: #207 Vikingstar
Kool Aid for everyone and since they've given it all to Paul, I'm buying.

It's actually Flavor Aid

The more you know...

re: #148 Alouette

A member or supporter of the Trilateral Commission. One small step to one side of the Illuminati.

Fnord.

re: #161 Alan Furman

Charles posts:

The personal details—especially the mention of grandchildren—show that whoever wrote this had a fairly close relationship with Ron Paul.

That is true of Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr.

Hmmm. Is he any relation to George Lincoln Rockwell?

re: #215 Steffan

re: #148 Alouette

A member or supporter of the Trilateral Commission. One small step to one side of the Illuminati.

Fnord.

Personally, I would rather be an Illuminati. It's a MUCH cooler name!

re: #206 allahtoyou

Ah. Thank you.

I do not know much about MLK.........I was a teenager back then, following in my-father-the-newspaperman's footsteps......and he didn't think much of the way MLK was going about achieving his dreams.......so I kept my distance from studying him too much.....

I do think, though, that whenever someone criticizes another, especially in public (speaking now of Ron Paul's newsletter up above here) , it would be wise to cover oneself with stated-proof, each time the criticism is mentioned.........at least that is some of the good newspapering I learned from my long-departed Dad.... :)

re: #209 MagnaniomousCoward

:)

What difference does all this minutia make?
RP will make one 1/2way reasonable statement followed closely by three nutty-as-a-fruitcake statements.
He could very well have written every word of these newsletters, but so what?
He's a slippery as soap.
His acolytes ignore the most egregious things he says and does.
In fact they are just as bad, lying to take advantage of free bus rides from Romney at one point, spamming polls all the time.
Birds of a feather.

re: #218 Ma Sands

I have always wondered, when material about MLK's private life comes out, if it really matters. His speeches were the point, as was his public life. Many people have flaws, and many great men have truly terrible ones.

re: #214 MagnaniomousCoward

Thanks, but you can't get that here.

I had a small newsletter about the same time period. I wrote about 1/4 of it. It had my name on it, I approved it before copying it. I knew everything that was in it. I guess I would be a better candidate then Ron Paul. He'll snafu up up the White house. He'll say oops I didn't know my VP was a neo nazi he hid it too well from me and I never thought to ask. His whole life is like that apparently. He walks around clueless of the rabble around him. Sorta of like that Peanuts character Pigpen?

re: #182 allahtoyou

Sorry to be obtuse, but how are Paul's comments about King "racist"? I don't doubt that Paul is, in fact, a racist, along with being an anti-Semite. But the example provided doesn't prove the case.

Check out the Pajamas Media and The New Repulic pieces mentioned in the earlier stories about this. This document attacks King, but the race issue is more apparent in other editions.

re: #217 MacDuff

re: #215 Steffan

re: #148 Alouette

A member or supporter of the Trilateral Commission. One small step to one side of the Illuminati.

Fnord.

Personally, I would rather be an Illuminati. It's a MUCH cooler name!

The proper name is Illuminatus, or "Illuminated Being." Fnord.

:p

re: #218 Ma Sands

re: #206 allahtoyou

Ah. Thank you.

I do not know much about MLK.........I was a teenager back then, following in my-father-the-newspaperman's footsteps......and he didn't think much of the way MLK was going about achieving his dreams.......so I kept my distance from studying him too much.....

I do think, though, that whenever someone criticizes another, especially in public (speaking now of Ron Paul's newsletter up above here) , it would be wise to cover oneself with stated-proof, each time the criticism is mentioned.........at least that is some of the good newspapering I learned from my long-departed Dad.... :)

I agree with you completely, Ma Sands. My only point, poorly made, perhaps, is that Paul's claim that King was a child molestor is probably slanderous, and definitely politically-incorrect. But that doesn't make it racist. I'm not defending the little nutjob. I just appreciate precision. That said, I'm quite sure he actually IS a racist.

re: #224 MagnaniomousCoward

.

Check out the Pajamas Media and The New Repulic pieces mentioned in the earlier stories about this. This document attacks King, but the race issue is more apparent in other editions.

Thank you for that....I'll check it out.

re: #225 Steffan

re: #217 MacDuff

re: #215 Steffan

re: #148 Alouette

A member or supporter of the Trilateral Commission. One small step to one side of the Illuminati.

Fnord.

Personally, I would rather be an Illuminati. It's a MUCH cooler name!

The proper name is Illuminatus, or "Illuminated Being." Fnord.

:p

Even COOLER! Besides, Trilateralist sounds like you go three ways. Now I understand about "going both ways", but going THREE ways? That may be a little too weird (spoken in my best Forrest Gump voice)

re: #221 Dianna

Well, the way I have come to believe, is that many men have done things that turn out to be great.......but that, to quote the greatest man of all time, "there is none good but One"..... :)

re: #227 allahtoyou

Well, it's TNR so take some salt with it; always exercise source critique, even if it's your best friend. In this case, we have unquestionably authentic documents that were widely published, not just the word of some would-be Stephen Glass. And they weren't done on MS Word for Mac either.

re: #226 allahtoyou

Yes, and, as I think MagnaniomousCoward was saying in comment #224, I think most of the commenters are taking these last few threads concerning the subject, as one --and it was pretty much shown, in examples therein, that Ron Paul doesn't think much of some of the other races.

Glad to meet you; welcome to the fray. :)

New thread is up; apparently, Hillary won.

Someone's calling for Ma Sands, btw.

re: #232 Dianna

Oh!

Thanks very much! I've enjoyed lurking for a very long time. I appreciate the welcome and kind replies. I'm not doubting the authenticity of the newsletter, nor that Paul is a thorough-going creep who harbors white supremacist views. I just think we should be careful when criticizing our opponents that we not overstate the case. King's personal failings are common knowledge; noting them isn't racist, per se. If a claim were made that his race was the cause of his misdeeds, that would be different. I'm sure there is plenty of clear evidence of Paul's attitudes towards those he to whom he feels superior (everyone?). We should use clear examples so gullible dumbbells will understand what they are dealing with. Sorry to belabor the point. I see I've gotten myself into hot water already. Oops.

re: #234 allahtoyou

Not really.....it is good to have Lizards work to keep us steady..... :)

Can I ask what might be behind your choice of your nic?

Does anyone have screenshots of the Koslings drooling about their "dream ticket" of Pon and their favorite Peace Imp?

re: #190 Last Mohican

Sometimes they're so busy typing, digging down, logging out, and logging in again as their other digg identities that they don't have time to even make sense, as in this one:

Obvious hitpiece is obvious.

That does make sense. Just expressed in a way you may not have encountered. Looks like 4chan /b/tard type grammar to me. I've seen similar stuff.

re: #126 Canadian Guy

It seems many Paulbots have finally gotten a clue and are seeing too many coincidences spanning several decades.
[Link: www.ronpaulforums.com...]
This thread is pretty good.

Thanks for the Link---I had quite fun for over 30 min. reading the threads--one especially telling everyone how to respond and breaking the letter down into different parts and trying to explain them away.
/you will all be happy to know that the person who wrote this in RP name was fired!(LOL)

re: #237 Drogheda
Funny, as 4chan absolutely hates Ron Paul supporters. Except for the board known as "stormfro/n/t".

re: #235 Ma Sands

re: #234 allahtoyou

Not really.....it is good to have Lizards work to keep us steady..... :)

Can I ask what might be behind your choice of your nic?

Irreverence. Assuming the name of that which is supposedly holy, thereby profaning it - as it deseves. Wait until all those silly mooslim men find out they've been praying to a woman.

re: #216 Steffan

re: #161 Alan Furman

Charles posts:

The personal details—especially the mention of grandchildren—show that whoever wrote this had a fairly close relationship with Ron Paul.

That is true of Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr.

Hmmm. Is he any relation to George Lincoln Rockwell?

No.

He is a member of the bunch that includes Ron Paul, Justin Raimondo, Burt Blumert, and Murray Rothbard during the latter's lifetime. They have supported Pat Buchanan in the past.

You can find more of his associates at lewrockwell.com if you have the stomach.

Unfortunately Lew Rockwell is also a leader of the Ludwig von Mises Institute, named after the eminent 20th Century economist (he correctly analyzed the collapse of communism 60 years before it happened). Mises (1881-1973) was a Jewish refugee from Nazi Austria and I hope everyone will bear in mind that none of this has anything to do with him.

And now, copied and pasted from a comment to a blog post, is Rockwell's 1991 LA Times column on the Rodney King incident (for which, by the way, he was denounced by many libertarians). Relevance to the question of the Ron Paul newsletter's authorship is left as an exercise...

IT'S SAFE STREETS VERSUS URBAN TERROR;
IN THE '50S, RAMPANT CRIME DIDN'T EXIST BECAUSE OFFENDERS FEARED WHAT THE POLICE WOULD DO.
March 10, 1991
Los Angeles Times, Sunday edition

By LLEWELLYN H. ROCKWELL

If you offer a small boy one candy bar now or 10 tomorrow, he'll grab the one. That's because children have what economists call a "high time preference." They want it, and they want it now. The future is a haze.

The punishing of children must take this into account. One good whack on the bottom can have an effect. A threat about no TV all next year will not.

As we grow older, this changes. We care more, and think more, about the future. In fact, this is the very process of maturation. We plan, save, invest and put off today's gratification until tomorrow.

But street criminals, as economist Murray N. Rothbard points out, have the time preference of depraved infants. The prospect of a jail sentence 12 months from now has virtually no effect.

As recently as the 1950s -- when street crime was not rampant in America -- the police always operated on this principle: No matter the vagaries of the court system, a mugger or rapist knew he faced a trouncing -- proportionate to the offense and the offender -- in the back of the paddy wagon, and maybe even a repeat performance at the station house. As a result, criminals were terrified of the cops, and our streets were safe.

Today's criminals know that they probably won't be convicted, and that if the are, they face a short sentence -- someday. The result is city terrorism, though we are seldom shown videos of old people being mugged, women being raped, gangs shooting drivers at random or store clerks having their throats slit.

What we do see, over and over again, is the tape of some Los Angeles-area cops giving the what-for to an ex-con. It is not a pleasant sight, of course; neither is cancer surgery.

Did they hit him too many times? Sure, but that's not the issue: It's safe streets versus urban terror, and why we have moved from one to the other.

Liberals talk about banning guns. As a libertarian, I can't agree. I am, however, beginning to wonder about video cameras.

Llewellyn H. Rockwell Jr. is president of the Ludwig von Mises Institute, an economics think tank in Auburn, Ala.

re: #148 Alouette

Can someone please explain in normal language, not conspiracyfreakspeak, what is a "Trilateralist"?

It so happens I have a bunch of material on the Trilateral Commission given me by conspiracy nuts, white supremacists to tell you the truth, whose beliefs I do not share. They explain that the TC has roots based on the book Between Two Ages written by Zbigniew Brzezinski (who btw is an adviser to Obama, Obama also being a CFR member), and that the book proposes a movement in stages toward a "community of nations...through a variety of indirect ties and already developing limitations on national sovereignty" (p296, Brezinski's book) -- i.e., a move toward world government. They give a list of members, like George Bush Sr. (CFR & TC), Bill Clinton (CFR & TC), and so on.

Now, for a perspective from the Tilateral Commission themselves, here's the Trilateral Commission website, which I found by going to a website that's somewhere in the middle between the TRI/CFR people and the conspiracy extremists: once-upon-a-time-in-the-west.blogspot.com, where you can find all sorts of related info.

re: #148 Alouette
Also, to add to the Trilateral Commission info and links in my #242, consider the source, and here's a WorldNetDaily article, Treasonous Agenda of the Trilateral Commission including an excerpt from the oft-cited Barry Goldwater quote from his book With No Apologies, in which Goldwater described the TC this way:

The Trilateral Commissmion is international and is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power -- political, monetary, intellectual and ecclesiastical.

re: #209 MagnaniomousCoward

Uhm. That spelling ..... It's a METAPHOR. It's SARCASM. It was INTENTIONAL. My DOG WALKED OVER THE KEYBOARD. It was a GHOST WRITER. It was a ZIONIST CONSPIRACY TO RIDICULE ME.

MC- You should have added:

/Channeling Joliet Jake Blues explaining to his ex-finacee why he couldn't attend their wedding.
: )

[Link: sultanknish.blogspot.com...]

the Carol one is just the beginning

[Link: www.tnr.com...]

The January 1991 newsletter features the author mentioning another congressman as "my successor" and talking about his experience as "a flight surgeon in the air force" and then afterward launching into another tirade about Martin Luther King. Again this is Ron Paul's record, not someone else. The author is clearly Ron Paul

[Link: aycu28.webshots.com...]

In that same newsletter the author writes about his time running for President in 1988 on the Libertarian Party ticket. Ron Paul ran for President in 1988 on the Libertarian Party ticket. Here it is completely unambiguous that the author is Ron Paul and that he is expressing his own views about Martin Luther King.

[Link: aycu07.webshots.com...]

[Link: www.tnr.com...]

In Feb of 1991 the author writes that he voted against "an expensive federal holiday for this man" referring to King. Of course Ron Paul famously voted against recognizing MLK day as a holiday.

[Link: aycu22.webshots.com...]

It appears that not only is Ron Paul a racist but he just issued false statements during a Presidential campaign. That alone should disqualify him from public office.

re: #215 Steffan

re: #148 Alouette

A member or supporter of the Trilateral Commission. One small step to one side of the Illuminati.

Fnord.

Myself, I prefer this kind of il-lu-minati : p

I shared this link with a Paulian, and he immediately rejected it, saying that there are many Caroles who were grandparents in 1990. (Go figure) Maybe if you included the cover page of the old Ron Paul Report, that might help turn him around.
-- Amrafel

Worrying about Ron Paul getting the Republican nomination is much like worrying that a leftist will say something rational or a snail will take the gold in Olympic pole-vaulting.

It's just not going to happen. Ever.

re: #248 Mr. Beamish

Beams ol buddy, that was never the worry or the issue around here.

It's the taint, the stink, the irremovable tar that comes with those kind of people who are claiming to be Republicans.

That whack shit doesn't represent the nation or the party. It certainly doesn't represent you or I. It doesn't represent much of anything that we stand for or anything we believe in.

Even when it mouths the platitudes it thinks we want to hear, it's lying through it's teeth, like it always has.

This, (the relentless assault on the current Paul campaign), won't end until the old man packs it in and retires back to the corner of Texas that he's misrepresented all these years.

UNTIL
THE
END,
R

A Ron Paul supporter I know has told me several times that the racists are the only ones that can save America.

Ron Paul is going to set the Libertarian movement back and take the republican party with it. This is why so many lefties support Ron Paul.

Seems to me Ron Paul is un-aware of alot of things...like about the supporters being Neo-Nazis, facists, 9/11 trothers, whte supermacists, wacko militia militants, Code Pinkos and anarchists too. Yea I want a guy in the White House who is a complete idiot...un-aware of everything.... rrriiiiggghhhhtttt

re: #250 DoubleU

A Ron Paul supporter I know has told me several times that the racists are the only ones that can save America.

Ron Paul is going to set the Libertarian movement back and take the republican party with it. This is why so many lefties support Ron Paul.

I agree...but I think the Muslim Extremists, and lib wackos are behind this guy to give Hillary the White House...divide the GOP is the only way she wins....the far right are the trailer trash nut bags who do not see this....

Dr. Paul gets scarier by the day. How can the MSM ignore his possible racist tendencies?

Give the man a little credit. He got the United Nations part right. (Probably for the wrong reasons, though.)

I’m not a Paul supporter (i.e. Paulestinian) but since he’s not really a candidate, but only an issue-raiser, it would make more sense to address his arguments on the issues instead of his personal flaws of which there are many.

What bothers me is that there are many blame-America types that find Paul’s message appealing. And believe that hiding our heads in the sand will make the jihadist problem go away.

I’m afraid this attitude is much greater than we think. Paul’s numbers only show the die-hards. Like Ward Churchill, he’s only the tip of the iceberg. We’ve got to face this problem.