But...but...
RON PAUL

Expect the Pauliacs to try and spin this as some great conspiracy to keep the only man who can save America from holding the office of the President.

I still think he's not capable of holding the title dogcatcher.

And the GOP should take the opportunity to drop kick him out of the Party. This isn't about big tents. It's about doing the right thing and getting a bigot and racist out of the Party on its biggest stage.

14:59:56
14:59:57
14:59:58
14:59:59
15:00:00
15:00:01

Your 15 minutes are up Ron.

bye

I suppose if these things were really debates rather than joint press conferences, Wallace would have to put forth the proposition, "Ron Paul has Nazi tendencies", and assign the good Dr. to argue "against".

thanks to charles for linking to this,

if you look at Ron Paul's cleaned up congressional statements on civil rights, e.g.

[Link: www.lewrockwell.com...]

you wind up encountering cleaned up sanitized versions of the same views with lip service paid to equal rights

the newsletters just feature Ron Paul's views when he was out of congress minus the sanitized politician speak

Has anyone ever seen Ron Paul and Lew Rockwell in the same place at the same time? /just wondering

Charles, did you see this comment by Athos?:

Ron Paul Letter which leads to a question - did he invite the conspiracy nutters, the racists, and the fringe to join?

I have unmasked the plot for world government, world money, and world central banking. Planned exchange controls to hold you hostage...while the dollar drops down a hole...

I revealed the Red debt bomb set to explode in your bank account...The real, financial reasons Bush invaded Panama. The nightmare of a ‘cashless society’ (watch out for it, if they get away with the New Money)...

I’ve been told not to talk, but these stooges don’t scare me. Threats or not threats, I’ve laid bare the coming race war in our big cities. The federal-homosexual cover-up on AIDS (my training as a physician helps me see through this one.)

The Bohemian Grove – perverted, pagan playground of the powerful Skull & Bones: the demonic fraternity that includes George Bush and leftist Senator John Kerry, Congress’s Mr New Money. The Israeli lobby, which plays Congress like a cheap harmonica. And the Soviet-style ‘smartcard’ the Justice Department has in mind for you.

hat tip: Ace of Spades

Tucker Carlson isn't convinced.

So I am sure the story is true

It's the same old song and dance,
You're askin' me for a second chance.
I don't care, baby, what you say,
All I wanna do is gotta get away.

Been too many times callin' out your name,
You promised me, but you never came.
Was it, baby, all a game to you? Yeah.
After all the things that I've done for you,
Say your love, your love, could not be true.
I don't need nobody like you.

So turn out the lights, the party's over.
Turn out the lights, the party's over for you.
This time is the last time, never be a next time.
Tonight I wanna dance to a brand new tune.

When Ron Paul drops out, will he endorse Obama?

Oh geez, he trashed St. Luther King?***

Yo Paul, your fries campaigning days are done.

*** Regardless of whether MLK was really the great man of popular opinion or the hypocritical scumbag of his detractors, The Narrative says he was essentially on par with Jesus, and anybody who's caught publicly denigrating him can kiss their political butt goodbye.

Total ism is an extremely contagious form of cancer with multiple permutations that consumes humans and spits out a slimy viscous substance that moves and acts like humans, but is really an evil dead thing whose sole purpose is to spread more cancer. Thank God I've had my inoculation.

I've been analyzing the NH election tallies (by county and city/town).
Somebody hold me - I discovered that 307 people in my town voted for Ron Paul.
Mommy! Make it go away!

When they're not busy with creative video editing, the Iranians keep plugging Dr. Paul every day.

Ron Paul, US Eagle's second wing

Can't make this stuff up.

OT - Those 'poor,' 'poor,' 'INNOCENT' 'Palestinians' to whom President Bush wants to give a state reichlet. This video will make you wonder why (and it won't last long).

re: #8 zombie

Charles, did you see this comment by Athos?:

I revealed the Red debt bomb set to explode in your bank account

Rotating title?

re: #7 lawhawk

Has anyone ever seen Ron Paul and Lew Rockwell Fjordman in the same place at the same time? /just wondering

fixed

This attempt on the A319 was not "turbulence"

Charles: do not want to put you on the sport now.

re: #19 Pro-Bush Canuck

This attempt on the A319 was not "turbulence"

Charles: do not want to put you on the sport now.

sport=spot = multiple calls now.

re: #19 Pro-Bush Canuck

This attempt on the A319 was not "turbulence"

Really? How do you know? Link?

re: #15 JammieWearingFool

That ticket would be a real one-two Punch and Judy.

re: #21 zombie

re: #19 Pro-Bush Canuck

This attempt on the A319 was not "turbulence"

Really? How do you know? Link?

Can't link. Wish I could.

yall are mean...racist have feelings, ya know...

re: #14 Killer Tomato

I've been analyzing the NH election tallies (by county and city/town).
Somebody hold me - I discovered that 307 people in my town voted for Ron Paul.
Mommy! Make it go away!

ANd suprizingly the population of your town is only 308.

re: #3 lawhawk

Expect the Pauliacs to try and spin this as some great conspiracy to keep the only man who can save America from holding the office of the President.

I still think he's not capable of holding the title dogcatcher.

And the GOP should take the opportunity to drop kick him out of the Party. This isn't about big tents. It's about doing the right thing and getting a bigot and racist out of the Party on its biggest stage.

It's time. Ron Paul doesn't deserve to be called a Republican any longer. He's had time to renounce his past racism and bigotry and failed. Out damned spot.

re: #23 Pro-Bush Canuck

re: #21 zombie

re: #19 Pro-Bush Canuck

This attempt on the A319 was not "turbulence"

Really? How do you know? Link?

Can't link. Wish I could.

Just tell us the name of the media outlet/blog where you saw it.

re: #12 Pawn of the Oppressor

more to the point is Ron Paul's hypocrisy, the fact that he appears to have issued a false statement denying authorship and there is more at TNR than the MLK too

the newsletters tie him to the same extreme fringe that has been so active in his campaign and explains why people like David Duke would support him, two of the newsletters mention Duke in a positive way

Suggestion for the lizard master: Yes, there do seem to be plenty of spinoff link categories already, but at a blog famous for exposing the very worst of the worst when it comes to media bias, I'm surprised that there's no spinoff link category for "Media Bias" or "Journalism". It might be cool to have one.

re: #3 lawhawk

Expect the Pauliacs to try and spin this as some great conspiracy to keep the only man who can save America from holding the office of the President.

I still think he's not capable of holding the title dogcatcher.

And the GOP should take the opportunity to drop kick him out of the Party. This isn't about big tents. It's about doing the right thing and getting a bigot and racist out of the Party on its biggest stage.

if you monitor the Paulian forums, they're taking three contradictory tacks

1. they're trying to argue the signature on the solicitation letter is faked

2. another faction is trying to go with the story from the campaign office that he never wrote or edited the newsletter but others like Lew Rockwell took advantage of him and are calling for the real "writers" to step forward

3. the third faction is claiming there's nothing wrong with the newsletters

I saw a Luap Nor bumper sticker on a 2006+ BMW this morning. Was a boiler-room-stock-broker type kid (saw the building he turned into). he tried to cut me off in traffic, but I stayed the course. looked over, he was talking on his cell phone (violating local State traffic laws).

I wonder when his 2 remaining brain cells rubbed togethger to form an opinion about a candidate in the 2008 election.

re: #23 Pro-Bush Canuck

My friend, you have been rather cryptic lately. What's up? Could you please write something clear & straight forward about what you know about this Air Canada flight? I just googled the story and all I see are reports that is hit turbulance and landed in Calgary.

re: #11 grumpy old codger

I still say that he runs as an independent once he is formally eliminated from the Republican race.

BHG

Paul needs to run on the Libertarian ticket. He can then say whatever he wants, and his followers will be happy, at last. Or, he could run as an American Independent, and join up with Buchanan.

re: #19 Pro-Bush Canuck

All the stories I can see in the press say this was a n event of turbulence... However, the stories indicate a ot of ambulances, and police...

Opposing a federal holiday for MLK does not make you a racist - (Ron Paul being a nut job notwithstanding).

Ironically, MLK was more or less a disciple of Ghandi - who has been ( rightfully so ) trashed plenty on LGF yesterday.

re: #27 zombie

re: #23 Pro-Bush Canuck

re: #21 zombie

re: #19 Pro-Bush Canuck

This attempt on the A319 was not "turbulence"

Really? How do you know? Link?

Can't link. Wish I could.

Just tell us the name of the media outlet/blog where you saw it.

Top-right link on Drudge

Air Canoodia flight diverted because of injuries on board, cause unspecified.

BTW - Kerry endorsing Obama.

Kerry goes to Vietnam, comes back home and publicly labels his fellow vets as baby-killers.

Kerry runs for President on a ticket with John Edwards, his running-mate. Now, he is endorsing
Obama instead of Edwards.

Anyone see a pattern here? I bet Kerry uses Hunt's ketchup when his wife is not around.

re: #41 funkyfantom

I bet he steals change off her dresser too...

re: #42 Desert Dog

re: #41 funkyfantom

I bet he steals change off her dresser too...

that's his allowance. ;)

It is racist to support a "Civil Rights" day over a "MLK" day?

re: #41 funkyfantom

Anyone see a pattern here? I bet Kerry uses Hunt's ketchup when his wife is not around.

That's poetry. Funny and poetry.

re: #7 lawhawk

Has anyone ever seen Ron Paul and Lew Rockwell in the same place at the same time? /just wondering

Sheets Byrd attests he saw them both at a Klan meeting back in the 60s.

re: #44 Ben Hur

My company doesn't even give us off for MLK day... nor President's Day...

Ron Paul: Get Back to Gold

If Ron Paul is correct, monetary authorities around the globe have been conspiring to suppress gold prices for decades.

Not convinced? Don't tell that to his followers. Because partly as a result of this view, Paul, a Texas congressman and Republican presidential hopeful, has become the champion of gold bugs who see him as the best friend of their precious metal, and, they hope, the next occupant of the White House.

"Our central banks around the world colluded over the last 10 to 20 years and have been dumping gold to keep gold down," Paul said in an interview with TheStreet.com when he met with voters in Concord, N.H., late Tuesday. "But finally, [the price] broke loose, and gold is soaring again to historic levels."

/it's official, he's insane (with video)

re: #40 Pawn of the Oppressor

Evasive action?

Everything I'm seeing on the Air Canada flight is saying turblence, there is a second Air Canada plane that had a mechanical and declared an emergency. {bottom of story}

re: #42 Desert Dog

re: #41 funkyfantom

I bet he steals change off her dresser too...

... and goes off on a secret mission , up the river, when she's asleep..

re: #47 tfc3rid

I know the feeling. My boss is a real slave driver. I rarely get any days off! What really sucks is I am the boss!

re: #39 funkyfantom

rejecting MLK day itself does not make you a racist, calling black people animals and the rest of the ravings in the newsletters does

Paul doesn't simply reject MLK day, he engages in a deranged tirade against the man and the newsletters are filled with even uglier things

finally ron paul issued a false statement during a presidential campaign... which would be a story in and of itself even if there was nothing wrong with anything in the newsletter

re: #40 Pawn of the Oppressor

"It happened very fast," said the woman. "One side of the plane just went up a little sideways and then it just sort of went back down.

"Our friend was really hurt, so we really want to get to her. She flew up and hit the ceiling and right back down.''

When asked if it was because of turbulence, the male passenger said he wasn't sure.

"We don't know, it was 15 seconds and then it was gone," he said.

Evasive maneuver?

re: #51 xtraBilly

and that mission is seared, SEARED I tell you, into his memory!

re: #7 lawhawk

Has anyone ever seen Ron Paul and Lew Rockwell in the same place at the same time? /just wondering

Yep.

re: #47 tfc3rid

re: #44 Ben Hur

My company doesn't even give us off for MLK day... nor President's Day...

When is MLK day, this Monday?

Maybe I'll take the day off to celebrate the big victory Sunday.

/

re: #55 Desert Dog

Jenghis Khan...

The MSM still insists on ignoring the glaring problems with Ron Paul and his supporters, in order to keep pimping him as a spoiler. Too bad no other Republican candidate will expose all this during an upcoming debate.

re: #57 JammieWearingFool

Nah, tis the Monday after the Championship game...

re: #45 Silhouette

re: #41 funkyfantom

Anyone see a pattern here? I bet Kerry uses Hunt's ketchup when his wife is not around.

That's poetry. Funny and poetry.

He would risk it, or his *ahem* might have a less that satisfactory experince.

McCain-Feingold 1st Ammendment Disaster!

Judges are declaring that ads for a 90 minute film critical of Shrillary are in fact "political advertising" and must be pulled. Here's a good question: Just where were these concerned judges when you couldn't watch TV without a Fahrenheit 9/11 ad every half hour back in 2004?

re: #40 Pawn of the Oppressor

Actually, it sounds like bad turbulence, not anything untoward.

re: #57 JammieWearingFool

re: #47 tfc3rid

re: #44 Ben Hur

My company doesn't even give us off for MLK day... nor President's Day...

When is MLK day, this Monday?

Maybe I'll take the day off to celebrate the big victory Sunday.

/

maybe they should shift MLK day to the Monday following the Super Bowl

re: #57 JammieWearingFool

re: #47 tfc3rid

re: #44 Ben Hur

My company doesn't even give us off for MLK day... nor President's Day...

When is MLK day, this Monday?

Maybe I'll take the day off to celebrate the big victory Sunday.

/

Becoming a Pats fan, Jammie?

re: #35 Golem Akbar

Well, Dr. Paul and Pitchfork Pat DO share a similar view of Jews and Israel...

BHG

re: #60 tfc3rid

re: #57 JammieWearingFool

Nah, tis the Monday after the Championship game...

OK. Then I'll be celebrating that day as well.

re: #54 Killer Tomato

Evasive maneuver?

Bush-supporting Canadian is the guy who said it wasn't turbulence, but he ain't talking.

If it was uppity Mohammedan punks we'd know already because one of the passengers would have talked . That narrows it down to something external to the plane or mechanical in nature, i.e. only the pilots or somebody who happened to be looking out a window can say for sure.

I'm not following the logic.
Ron Paul's disgust with the personal and political life of the Most Holy MLK may be political suicide in today's PC-obsessed world, but it is hardly irrational. Aside from his civil rights achievements (Thurgood Marshall did far more but never had the PR machine), MLK was a pig. And I fail to see the racism in publicly opposing that he should be the only figure in United States history who currently has a national holiday. That is an abomination.

re: #67 JammieWearingFool

From your keyboard to God's ears!

A diverse and balanced stock portfolio should include some gold and other precious metals. Having picked up gold coins at about $3,000 to $5,000k each year over the last 17 years is looking very lucrative from where I sit today.

I might just dump the lot of it if gold goes over $900 though.

re: #44 Ben Hur

It is racist to support a "Civil Rights" day over a "MLK" day?

If your a white American, anything you do not support that would benefit/honor/entitle/enrich/promote the black population is racist in the politically correct America we have let the liberals develop.

/i wish i were

me personally? I'd like to see a REL day. fat chance.

re: #58 tfc3rid

Not to be confused with his older and much nicer and well thought of brother Genghis. Mrs and Mr. Khan always felt ashamed of little Jenghis, he just never behaved himself.

Jengis actually is the proper way to pronounce Genghis.

PIMF - your=you're

But Kerry still is a boob.

re: #65 Carl in Jerusalem

re: #57 JammieWearingFool

re: #47 tfc3rid

re: #44 Ben Hur

My company doesn't even give us off for MLK day... nor President's Day...

When is MLK day, this Monday?

Maybe I'll take the day off to celebrate the big victory Sunday.

/

Becoming a Pats fan, Jammie?

No, although if they play anyone other than the NYG in SB 42, I'll may be rooting for them.

NE plays Saturday night, about 4 am your time Sunday.

Since I spend enough time in New England, I'm more than familiar with them, especially since it's ex-Giants coaches who've gotten them to four Super Bowls.

I'll graciously accept a debt of gratitude.

re: #76 Ben Hur

But Kerry still is a boob.

Yeah, but he always kept abreast of current events.

re: #76 Ben Hur

But Kerry still is a boob.

where boob is pronounced, "ass"

Ron Paul - "Not Fit for Purpose" ...

Dear CURP,

We believe the price of gold has been soaring because of fear that a nuclear armed jihadi madman may soon trigger a globally destructive war. Not because a global conspiracy of central bankers has artificially manipulated gold prices.

/.02

re: #69 nolocon

re: #69 nolocon

I'm not following the logic.
Ron Paul's disgust with the personal and political life of the Most Holy MLK may be political suicide in today's PC-obsessed world, but it is hardly irrational. Aside from his civil rights achievements (Thurgood Marshall did far more but never had the PR machine), MLK was a pig. And I fail to see the racism in publicly opposing that he should be the only figure in United States history who currently has a national holiday. That is an abomination.

the logic is that first of all ron paul issued a false statement about authoring the newsletters

secondly, the newsletters contain much more than generic opposition to MLK day but attacks that vary from the conspiracy minded to the outright racist

thirdly, it means that the newsletters themselves can be attributed to ron paul in all their glory

re: #81 experiencedtraveller

Truth serum?

re: #68 Pawn of the Oppressor

I've flown that route many times and it can be very bumpy coming over the Rocky Mountains over western Alberta. It does sound like nothing more than bad turbulance.

Now if anybody ate the food on the Air Canada flight, we could call it terrorism.

re: #70 tfc3rid

re: #67 JammieWearingFool

From your keyboard to God's ears!

It's official. The trash talk is on!

re: #53 sultan_knish

re: #39 funkyfantom

rejecting MLK day itself does not make you a racist, calling black people animals and the rest of the ravings in the newsletters does

Paul doesn't simply reject MLK day, he engages in a deranged tirade against the man and the newsletters are filled with even uglier things

Yes, that's the key.

MLK was a mixed bag. He had his good and bad points. Fought against discrimination, sought to end Jim Crow laws, an excellent orator -- all good. But he was no saint. He plaigiarized in college, and cheated on his wife many times, and began flirting with Marxist demagoguery in his final months.

Racists use his imperfections as an argument against his good points. That's been going on for 40 years.

I'm a realist. I neither glamorize the guy to the extent of ignoring his flaws, nor do I condemn him entirely for being partially immoral. But at the extremes: the LLL forbid any mention of his flaws, while the racists do anything to discredit him.

OT:

From the spinoff links, Lizard by the Bay Jan 10, 2008 at 10:10:42 am - the Rathergate lawsuit is going forward. Legalbgl, who is a guest poster on my blog, has appeared before the Judge in the case and thinks very highly of him - if anything, the case will highlight all that CBS and Rather have done wrong - the discovery process should be entertaining to say the least.

Charles: Any way to throw in a reply link from the spinoffs so that folks can see 'em in the comments?

re: #84 Kenneth

I'm VERY interested in these comments on this flight... All of the articles I see all point to turbulence...

re: #85 JammieWearingFool

Do you think the Cowboys are playing coy about TO's status?

re: #65 Carl in Jerusalem

LOL

re: #84 Kenneth

re: #68 Pawn of the Oppressor

I've flown that route many times and it can be very bumpy coming over the Rocky Mountains over western Alberta. It does sound like nothing more than bad turbulance.

Now if anybody ate the food on the Air Canada flight, we could call it terrorism.

!
Maybe that's what happened here...

Up to 80 passengers aboard an international Air Canada flight were under observation Tuesday night in Toronto, after eight people showed flu-like symptoms.

Air Canada flight 085 arrived at the city's Pearson International Airport from Tel Aviv, carrying 201 passengers.

Eight people between the ages of 18 and 26 became ill during the flight, Health Canada officials told CTV Toronto.

Roughly half the passengers were examined in the airport by a medical team, who apparently told them little about the situation.

"We didn't know anything, that's the problem," said one man. "We came down from the plane and we were segregated. We had masks on, white suits on, and sat there for an hour until they told us to go home."

The eight passengers with flu-like symptoms were taken to hospital.
An official with the Greater Toronto Airport Authority refrained from saying the passengers had been "quarantined."

re: #82 sultan_knish

re: #69 nolocon

re: #69 nolocon

I'm not following the logic.
Ron Paul's disgust with the personal and political life of the Most Holy MLK may be political suicide in today's PC-obsessed world, but it is hardly irrational. Aside from his civil rights achievements (Thurgood Marshall did far more but never had the PR machine), MLK was a pig. And I fail to see the racism in publicly opposing that he should be the only figure in United States history who currently has a national holiday. That is an abomination.

the logic is that first of all ron paul issued a false statement about authoring the newsletters

secondly, the newsletters contain much more than generic opposition to MLK day but attacks that vary from the conspiracy minded to the outright racist

thirdly, it means that the newsletters themselves can be attributed to ron paul in all their glory

The links focused on his MLK remarks.
My concern is how, even in this supposedly non-PC-obsessed forum, a person's opposition to a MLK holiday, and disgust with MLK's personal/political life, is automatically equated with racism . . . the "arghhh!, he mentioned Saint MLK in a newsletter, ergo, he's racist" mentality.
I hold no hope for Ron Paul, I worry about the 'blast radius' effect of the kneejerk condemnation as racist anyone who dares harbor negative thoughts about MLK.

re: #69 nolocon

I'm not following the logic.
Ron Paul's disgust with the personal and political life of the Most Holy MLK may be political suicide in today's PC-obsessed world, but it is hardly irrational. Aside from his civil rights achievements (Thurgood Marshall did far more but never had the PR machine), MLK was a pig. And I fail to see the racism in publicly opposing that he should be the only figure in United States history who currently has a national holiday. That is an abomination.

The logic is this: Ron Paul (and his ilk) don't dislike MLK day because they think there should be a "Civil Rights Day," but because they secretly disagree with the abolition of legalized racism.

re: #27 zombie

Seems to me awhile back he said he was somehow involved in transportation security. I'm wondering if he won't say because he can't say.

Ron Paul does have a Black & Jewish problem.
He seems to be on the bigoted side. But never mind. His supporters see whatever they want in him. He has Truthers, White Supremists and idealistic college students etc.
If you look at Obama, same thing. I have an adult niece that just swoons over him. She attributes every one of her beliefs & biases to him.
She could not tell me when he had ever said what she believes that he represents. It does not matter. Supporters of these two guys see what they want, not what is actually there

re: #59 rappmandu

The MSM still insists on ignoring the glaring problems with Ron Paul and his supporters, in order to keep pimping him as a spoiler. Too bad no other Republican candidate will expose all this during an upcoming debate.

I hate to be in a position trying to defend the nearly indefensible, but can you show me some examples where the MSM is 'pimping him as a spoiler'?

Granted the MSM is not pressing the case of Luap Nor, his racism, his incredibly foolish policy positions, or the pathetic cult-like behavior of his followers...but even many of the Paulians who aren't part of the real fringe (troofers, racists, neo-nazis, morons (Sully etc)) have distanced themselves from the man since this data has gotten a well deserved light shown on it. But silence from the MSM towards a fringe candidate (generally in the margin of error of 0 in almost all national scientific polls) isn't pimping. They can sell more pimping Obama vs Hillary...

My apologies to all...
It's been so long. It's tearing me up inside. Can't keep it in...
NOOOR LUAAAP!

/aaah...anybody got a smoke?

re: #86 zombie

All great men are flawed. If you weigh MLK's positive influence on the world compared to his negatives, he is indeed a great man. Without his leadership, the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960's would not have achieved what it did. LBJ was a scumbag, but he signed all the bills into law...

re: #95 opnion

Their popularity is fueled by "charisma", whatever that is.

We several things going on with Air Canada:

CALGARY — Nine people on board an Air Canada jet were hurt — some seriously — Thursday morning when their flight from Victoria to Toronto encountered turbulence.

HALIFAX - An Air Canada Jazz flight between Halifax and Fredericton had to make an emergency landing at Stanfield International Airport Wednesday.

Toronto -- A member of an Israeli tour group visiting Toronto has been admitted to hospital after 74 other members were put under observation for exhibiting flu-like symptoms Tuesday night.

Three different incidents with Air Canada.

re: #87 lawhawk

Good highlight - as we discussed in the open yesterday - this will be VERY interesting and fun...

Hey Lizards (who know how things work here)...I am looking for some info. Are the spin offs deleted for content like some of the comments are? Yesterday I read some POS spin off called "Islamofascist Nonsense " and of course dinged it down. Looked for it today to see who agreed/disagreed especially in light of the Paki bombings and can't find it anymore. Any ideas?

re: #29 Lizard by the Bay

Suggestion for the lizard master: Yes, there do seem to be plenty of spinoff link categories already, but at a blog famous for exposing the very worst of the worst when it comes to media bias, I'm surprised that there's no spinoff link category for "Media Bias" or "Journalism". It might be cool to have one.

Done...

re: #100 jcm

Where did Pro-Bush Canuck go? Leaves us with that nugget and then... Poof...

re: #99 Cap'n DOC

re: #95 opnion

Their popularity is fueled by "charisma", whatever that is.

Hillary is down two quarts

re: #86 zombie

yes the real question is does anyone really believe that if Martin Luther King had been a saint, that some of these same people would be thinking any differently on the question

in the end this isn't about MLK it's about race, paul supporters try to paint him as a principled man who voted along his principles

the tim russert interview showed him as a man who put up a facade of principle while using realpolitik to get what he wanted anyway

re: #100 jcm

We several things going on with Air Canada:

...
Three different incidents with Air Canada.

Thanks for clarifying that.

re: #91 Killer Tomato

Might have been the food as Air Canada food has become horrible lately. Or it could have been Norwalk's virus, or something like that.

re: #89 tfc3rid

re: #85 JammieWearingFool

Do you think the Cowboys are playing coy about TO's status?

Isn't it more important to 'Boys fans to keep Jessica Simpson away from the game?

re: #100 jcm

Very interesting.

France´s Le Pen Selling Headquarters to Pay Debts

re: #100 jcm

Someone was joking about eating the food.

With the succession of people exhibiting similar symptoms at the same time, you must look for similarities.

Re my link: "Crisis Management Advice For Ron Paul," David Duke gives RP supporters the advice to embrace the newsletters.

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

also an interesting read with lots of links to the facts in question

with thanks to the blues brothers
I HATE RON PAUL NAZIS

Who cares about Ron Paul? The guy will go into the dust bin of history without even a foot note except with 9/11 truthers.

MLK jr a Marxist?

Well I don’t judge Ron Paul by the color of his skin, but by the content of his character, or the extreme lack thereof.

re: #92 nolocon

the links focused on demonstrating ron paul's authorship of the MLK remarks, something he has vigorously denied

there's much more to the newsletters themselves that has been gone into extensively, see

[Link: www.tnr.com...]

my goal was to demonstrate authorship

Ronulans have been impervious to attacks and dogged in defense of their Master on other forums. I'm amazed at how quickly they have disappeared from LGF. Did Stinky lower the boom or are Lizards just too tough for them? The few that are left are very circumspect in their posting now, walking on eggshells, as it were...

'It will be interesting to see if Chris Wallace grills Ron Paul about those years of racist, conspiracy-mongering newsletters ..'

. Dr. Ronpaul's election blimp could catch fire on live television.

// Adjusting butter and popcorn inventories.

LEAVE RON PAUL ALONE!@!

re: #112 formercorpsman

Could be a food issues. Cockpit crews are not allowed to eat the same entrees in flight, just in case food is tainted.

Could be anything, a real flu bug that's going around.

Could be intentional.

Wait and see.

Would you believe there’s another debate tonight?

If Bush is going to cancel the elections and declare martial law like the moonbats say he is... for cripe's sake, could he please do it SOON?!

Having to go through an entire (extended) campaign season and only THEN have democracy abolished... now that would really be salt in the wounds.

re: #121 jcm

Being in medicine, I always have an eye squinted at the diagnostics first.

re: #117 sultan_knish

re: #92 nolocon

the links focused on demonstrating ron paul's authorship of the MLK remarks, something he has vigorously denied

there's much more to the newsletters themselves that has been gone into extensively, see

[Link: www.tnr.com...]

my goal was to demonstrate authorship

Some who does writing analysis can compare known RP writings to the news letters. That would pretty much close the issue.

re: #95 opnion

MLK was trying to change the institutional racism that existed in the USA at the time. He had many personal demons to deal with (we all do). I did not care for many of his Robin Hood economics and some of the other things he started believing when he was older. But, it's hard to argue against wanting to be judged by content of your character rather than the color of your skin. That said, what does Obama stand for besides "Obama"?

re: #118 Meremortal

One of the other issues - the positions of RP in the newsletter, the depth and 'quality' of the evidence - make the positions extremely difficult to defend.

Even RP himself can't do any better than claiming that someone else wrote those words and he didn't know that they were in his newletters for over a decade...

When you have an untenable position, can't attack and defame the messenger, your options are limited...

re: #115 kwrxxx

Who cares about Ron Paul? The guy will go into the dust bin of history without even a foot note except with 9/11 truthers.

The essential question. Guess there's no other political news to talk about these days.

re: #122 Occasional Reader

Come on OR... It's going to on November 1... Just to make everyone believe it's going to move forward...

Testing the new icon

~mwah~

re: #123 formercorpsman

Yep, given they all came down with symptoms in a similiar time frame, and passengers essential eat at the same time, food is always high on the list of things to be ruled out.

re: #129 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I LIKE IT!

Self pic?

re: #124 jcm

re: #117 sultan_knish

re: #92 nolocon

the links focused on demonstrating ron paul's authorship of the MLK remarks, something he has vigorously denied

there's much more to the newsletters themselves that has been gone into extensively, see

[Link: www.tnr.com...]

my goal was to demonstrate authorship

Some who does writing analysis can compare known RP writings to the news letters. That would pretty much close the issue.

that would be the high end approach, the Paulites will then bring their own experts who will claim they aren't and the whole thing will drag on

in this case it's quite simple to point out that the author is speaking in first person with biographical details that are clearly part of Ron Paul's life,

Would RP have the huevos to do what Charles Barkley did and denounce his own ghost writer?

re: #125 Desert Dog

I'll bite - Obama?

re: #117 sultan_knish

re: #92 nolocon

the links focused on demonstrating ron paul's authorship of the MLK remarks, something he has vigorously denied

there's much more to the newsletters themselves that has been gone into extensively, see

[Link: www.tnr.com...]

my goal was to demonstrate authorship

Oh, the fact that these went out from his office as Ron Paul Newsletters isn't sufficient? It frankly doesn't really matter if RP was the author, Lew Rockwell, Lyndon LaRouche, or Nodrog. Either RP is a fool and a racist because he wrote it...or he is a fool and a racist because he permitted it to go out under his name. Both positions are just one more reason why this guy isn't qualified for elected office.

re: #125 Desert Dog

But, it's hard to argue against wanting to be judged by content of your character rather than the color of your skin.

I actually give Obama some credit for not (much) running based his skin color. Hillary is much more pushing the "I'm the WOMAN candidate!" than is Obama "I'm the BLACK candidate!".

Damn... now I don't understand this, when I try to type quote marks and then "I", my keyboard tries to give me an I with a friggin' umlaut... supposedly my keyboard is set to "English (United States)", so this shouldn't be happening... any thoughts, anyone?

re: #129 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Sweet!

re: #126 Athos

Thanks for the response. You make sense, but I have seen Paulites defend the indefensible on other forums. I have even seen them say that these articles tell the truth, so they are no problem.

Whew.

re: #134 Cap'n DOC

ding ding ding, we have a winner...you have won a new copy of Sen. Obama's new book: "The Audacity of Myself"

re: #135 Athos

But that's just the ghost writer adding a personal touch!
/paulistinian.

re: #72 Owl

If your a white American, anything you do not support that would benefit/honor/entitle/enrich/promote the black population is racist in the politically correct America we have let the liberals develop.

In some areas we already honor the enemies of our nation and principles. Four states recognize a Cesar Chavez holiday, and he was a communist dedicated to destroying our entire capitalist system, and also believed that part of the US should be returned to Mexico.

Mark my words, it will not be long before state and local governments (in the interests of multiculturalism and relativism) forces us all to recognize these new "American" holidays:

- Mao Zedong Day, or simply "Chairman's Day"
- Robert Mugabe Day (at public schools this will be known as "kill whitey day")
- Castro Day (In San Francisco this one's celebrated a little differently, which leads us to...)
- Queer Day (officially Harvey Milk Day), part of Queer Awareness Week, part of LGBTPB* Freedom Month, which of course will still be separate from Gay Pride Month.

* (Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgendered, Pederast, and Bestial)

Remember, failure to celebrate or acknowledge these new "holidays" will get you instantly branded as "racist" and fired, stripped of rank, or otherwise appropriately punished in the most public and permanent ways known.

Oh, and if you're worried about too many new holidays, fear not. There's plenty of jingoistic violent white male holidays to get rid of, like Memorial Day, Veterans Day, Presidents Day, Independence Day, Christmas, Thanksgiving, etc...

re: #129 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Yeah, oh, "I'm just trying out a new image".

Your stirring the pot, you know diggler gonna show up now.

;)

re: #62 Lizard by the Bay

It's now THEIR political party being nailed, so it hits too close to home. If it's going after a Republican, then it's ok

JJ

Seems it's about time for the Republican party to disown this crawly little weasel, We inadvertantly give the leftwits enough ammunition as it is, Paul just adds to the stockpile.

re: #125 Desert Dog

re: #95 opnion
He had many personal demons to deal with (we all do).

Odd that MLK's "foibles" are so easily dismissed. Personally, I don't think I'd be so quickly forgiven if I was embezzling money from the SLCL, beating up white prostitutes, keeping girlfriends living in style in different parts of the country, etc. Guess I live a boring life.

That said, what does Obama stand for besides "Obama"?

The Moonbats tell us that Obama has made "color" irrelevant, which is why all they freely admit they are voting for him because he's black.

re: #44 Ben Hur

It is racist to support a "Civil Rights" day over a "MLK" day?

I am planning to propose just that to my Rep here in Ohio. Do you know how many people there are who risked everything fighting and dying for civil rights that get no credit and are totally overlooked? The CRM was much much more than MLK.

re: #122 Occasional Reader
ROTFLOL!

re: #136 Occasional Reader

I have my keyboard set on German sometimes too. When I type "Ron Paul", "Schiesskopf" appears on my screen.

As of today, he will be calling the Occupied Territory "Palestine."

/WABC Radio.

re: #135 Athos

re: #135 Athos

re: #117 sultan_knish

re: #92 nolocon

the links focused on demonstrating ron paul's authorship of the MLK remarks, something he has vigorously denied

there's much more to the newsletters themselves that has been gone into extensively, see

[Link: www.tnr.com...]

my goal was to demonstrate authorship

Oh, the fact that these went out from his office as Ron Paul Newsletters isn't sufficient? It frankly doesn't really matter if RP was the author, Lew Rockwell, Lyndon LaRouche, or Nodrog. Either RP is a fool and a racist because he wrote it...or he is a fool and a racist because he permitted it to go out under his name. Both positions are just one more reason why this guy isn't qualified for elected office.

if Ron Paul was the author he made a false statement during a presidential campaign

if it went out under his name, he can get a pass for being incompetent and offer a pro forma condemnation

re: #141 Lizard by the Bay

Don't forget October 14th. That used to be called Columbus Day. But now it is National Disgrace Day. We all have to wear black armbands and apologize to anyone who looks like a "Native American". Luckily, St. Patrick's Day is still safe!

Just heard the President on the radio saying "a Palestinian state is long overdue. The Palestinian people deserve it."

re: #129 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

OH BABY!

re: #151 Desert Dog

Luckily, St. Patrick's Day is still safe!

What! Honor that terrible abuser of Snake Rights? Has PETA heard about this?!

re: #145 nolocon

re: #125 Desert Dog

re: #95 opnion
He had many personal demons to deal with (we all do).

Odd that MLK's "foibles" are so easily dismissed. Personally, I don't think I'd be so quickly forgiven if I was embezzling money from the SLCL, beating up white prostitutes, keeping girlfriends living in style in different parts of the country, etc. Guess I live a boring life.
---

There are two MLKs, the actual person and the symbolic persona created by history and the MSM. This isn't new of course, but the differences are pretty stark in MLK's case.

re: #152 ciaospirit

Ugh.

re: #152 ciaospirit

Just heard the President on the radio saying "a Palestinian state is long overdue. The Palestinian people deserve it."

Garbled communication. Actually he was at a Gaza BBQ and said "a Palestinian steak is long overdue. The Palestinian people deserve it."

re: #150 sultan_knish

if Ron Paul was the author he made a false statement during a presidential campaign

if it went out under his name, he can get a pass for being incompetent and offer a pro forma condemnation

I'm still not nuanced enough to understand how taking "moral" responsibility for something relieves Luap Nor of actual responsibility.

re: #150 sultan_knish

re: #135 Athos

re: #135 Athos

re: #117 sultan_knish

re: #92 nolocon

the links focused on demonstrating ron paul's authorship of the MLK remarks, something he has vigorously denied

there's much more to the newsletters themselves that has been gone into extensively, see

[Link: www.tnr.com...]

my goal was to demonstrate authorship

Oh, the fact that these went out from his office as Ron Paul Newsletters isn't sufficient? It frankly doesn't really matter if RP was the author, Lew Rockwell, Lyndon LaRouche, or Nodrog. Either RP is a fool and a racist because he wrote it...or he is a fool and a racist because he permitted it to go out under his name. Both positions are just one more reason why this guy isn't qualified for elected office.

if Ron Paul was the author he made a false statement during a presidential campaign

if it went out under his name, he can get a pass for being incompetent and offer a pro forma condemnation

A pass for being incompetent?
A pro forma condemnation being acceptable?

I'm sorry, but are you serious? (Did I miss the sarc tag?)

re: #158 jaunte

it doere: #158 jaunte

re: #150 sultan_knish

if Ron Paul was the author he made a false statement during a presidential campaign

if it went out under his name, he can get a pass for being incompetent and offer a pro forma condemnation

I'm still not nuanced enough to understand how taking "moral" responsibility for something relieves Luap Nor of actual responsibility.

it doesn't relieve him of actual responsibility, he's obviously responsible

but it lets him go back to doing what he's been doing all along by offering a pro forma 'I condemn racism and I never wrote this and took responsibility for it' while moving on with the campaign

considering the first person writing and the biographical details, he should not be allowed to get a pass on authorship up until the point where he can prove that he is not the author

and that is my point

re: #159 Athos

I'm talking about the tactics the RP campaign has been using... not approving of them

Good Afternoon Lizards...

Funny how Chris Matthews has no problem calling me and everyone else who lives in New England a racist, but doesn't call Ron Paul out.

F*ck Chris Matthews and F*ck Ron Paul.

re: #161 sultan_knish

re: #159 Athos

I'm talking about the tactics the RP campaign has been using... not approving of them

OK. Sorry.

Think of it this way,

Ron Paul gets stopped driving a car on a highway. There's a dead body two miles back. Ron Paul claims that there was "someone else" doing the driving who got out and ran away a mile back and he can't give out his name. Considering the circumstantial evidence, Ron Paul is on the hook for the hit and run, rather than just giving him a pass on it and charging him with conspiracy or abetting or just calling him incompetent.

re: #53 sultan_knish

re: #39 funkyfantom

rejecting MLK day itself does not make you a racist, calling black people animals and the rest of the ravings in the newsletters does

Paul doesn't simply reject MLK day, he engages in a deranged tirade against the man and the newsletters are filled with even uglier things

finally ron paul issued a false statement during a presidential campaign... which would be a story in and of itself even if there was nothing wrong with anything in the newsletter

Agreed - just saying that one could remove the "opposing MLK day" item from the grocery list of things showing he is a racist, and still have a reasonable list left - else one might be perceived as implying that opposing MLK day suffices for the "racist" label.

The Martin Luther King Jr. Plagiarism page

re: #162 loppyd

Chris Matthews is a bloated gasbag. If you ask me he'd be a much more likely culprit for global warming than all those cows

Not to pick nits but I believe Brit Hume is the moderatory tonight.

re: #162 loppyd
Don't hold back lop, tell us what ya think...(snicker)

re: #167 sultan_knish

He is unhinged. Remember his fight with Uncle Zell?

re: #169 MrMom

re: #162 loppyd
Don't hold back lop, tell us what ya think...(snicker)

When someone makes blanket statements like that I can't hold back.

:)

re: #96 Athos

can you show me some examples where the MSM is 'pimping him as a spoiler'?

Yep.
Uh huh.
Here.
Again
And again
Here
Ahem
Spoiler Pimping
More

And that doesn't even include NPR. Heh.

Ron Paul @ Haaretz

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]

The most interesting political question about Paul concerns whether he will run as an independent after he loses the Republican nod. Paul refuses to promise that he won't, and one can already hear how would frame an independent run: "The investment was made by the supporters," he notes. They gave the money, they'll decide what to do with it. In other words, if they demand it, he will have no choice but to go forward.

and in interviews Ron Paul keeps playing the same game, at once denying plans for a run and then saying... well if the supporters want it badly enough

[Link: blog.washingtonpost.com...]

For weeks rumors have swirled that Paul, who trails his opponents in national and state polls, will eventually run as an independent or libertarian candidate.

"I have no intention of doing that," Paul told The Trail.

Asked how he'd respond if his supporters clamored for him to mount a run outside the GOP, Paul responded: "We'll see if the supporters keep sending the money. But right now, our focus is on February 5th."

the man is just plain dishonest

IMHO, when someone keeps emphasizing how 'honest' he is, that's when you really have to watch out for him, McCain and his Straight Talk, Ron Paul and Obama and Huckabee are all cases in point

Thank you, Sultan Knish, for digging up all this stuff for us.

(And you're absolutely right about candidates who ballyhoo their "honesty"!)

re: #172 rappmandu

Not to be a contrarian...but the majority of the stories you linked appear to be just regular news reports on Paul and his policies. The CBS link does specifically reference and title 'Spoiler' - and that is the closest to the 'pimping' a spoiler role. My definition of 'pimping' would be dozens of stories day in day out leading with the spoiler role...not talking about policy, fund raising, or finishes.

To see the MSM 'celebrate' or highlight RP as 'the only anti-war GOP candidate' is expected. But, in my opinion, the MSM is doing far more 'pimping' in their speculation of a Bloomberg independent run than 'pimping' a RP spoiler role in the GOP or as an independent.

RP, to the MSM, is a sideshow. Only if he actually started performing well in polls / primaries would they really give him more than basic coverage - and that coverage would ultimately be used to paint RP's racism as indicative of the GOP...

re: #175 TalkinKamel

Thank you, Sultan Knish, for digging up all this stuff for us.

(And you're absolutely right about candidates who ballyhoo their "honesty"!)

yes like Google's "Don't be Evil", once someone emphasizes their lack of evil, that's a rather blatant giveaway

honest politicians actually are just honest and real straight talking politicians just talk straight, they don't name a bus after it

re: #176 Athos

the media is giving Ron Paul positive coverage with very little in the way of critical stories

no other conservative would get this kind of treatment, even liberal republicans are getting shredded the moment they balloon

the media has had very little to say about a lot of controversial things in RP's background, that's already a tell, you don't get that kind of coverage unless they like you

the mainstream media is well aware that RP won't win the nomination but they're hoping for another ross perot

The MSM will initiate full coverage of the "Republicans fostering pro-Nazi candidate" meme when they believe it will be of greatest advantage to the Dems. For now, RonPaul is splintering off about 10% of the votes in the primaries, which helps to suppress other candidates. Note that RonPaul is invited to the next debate, but conservative Duncan Hunter is still not invited.

The RNC will have to dismiss RonPaul, hopefully before the MSM calls him out, and then RP will go independent. If the coverage of the newsletters is not too badly damaging, then RonPaul could splinter off about 10% of the Republican votes in the general election.

re: #178 sultan_knish

re: #176 Athos

the media is giving Ron Paul positive coverage with very little in the way of critical stories

no other conservative would get this kind of treatment, even liberal republicans are getting shredded the moment they balloon

the media has had very little to say about a lot of controversial things in RP's background, that's already a tell, you don't get that kind of coverage unless they like you

the mainstream media is well aware that RP won't win the nomination but they're hoping for another ross perot

I agree, they are giving him positive coverage. They like the anti-war anti-Bush position. That in itself differentiates Paul from other 'conservatives' - and yes, I agree that the MSM is giving him a pass on his positions.

(Is it possible that they are worried a RP independent run will steal more from them than the GOP?)

I think ultimately, its because they just don't really care about him. Low poll numbers, anemic primary results. He seems to get only marginally more coverage than Kuchinich. I see far more MSM speculation about Bloomberg's possible independent run than a RP independent run. I think Bloomberg is seen more as a Ross Perot type than Paul by the MSM.

re: #148 Desert Dog

a honey wagon has some use can't think of any for nor luap

re: #180 Athos

Google News has almost 25,000 results for Ron Paul

google news ron paul

vs around 7000 for Kucinich

of course the paulites inflate those numbers and Google News includes some blogs but the difference is obvious even in mainstream media coverage

I agree that they like his anti-war position but I don't see him getting this kind of coverage except because they feel his presence is hurting the GOP. Liberal Republicans who support gun control and abortion and gay rights are not getting this kind of coverage. It's not just his politics, it's the prospect that he can hand the white house to the democrats

"It depends on what the meaning of the phrase 'shrieking white supremacist' is. If the--if he--if 'shrieking white supremacist' means is and never has been, that is not--that is one thing. If it means there is none, that was a completely true statement...Now, if someone had asked me on that day, are you having any kind of sexual relations with my January 1991 Newsletter, that is, asked me a question in the present tense, I would have said no. And it would have been completely true."

I do not understand the question "Would you believe there’s another debate tonight? "? Is it rhetorical? Such as it seems. Is one to assume debate is a negative tiring thing in a democratic process? What is the point?

You have to wonder who these supporters of people like Ron Paul and Robert Byrd really are. How do either of these two retain power given their shady past. My opinion is that they are just hucksters who promise enough promises to fool their constiuencies. They maintain power and try to slide in their odd views when they can.

If someone I was voting for was revealed to be a past Klansman or anti-semitc I would drop them like a hot potato. There are plenty of candidates to go around.

re: #182 sultan_knish

Yes, those numbers do demonstrate more than just a slight difference even considering the caveats you mention.

You make a good case.

re: #185 hazzyday

re: #185 hazzyday

they have low real life support and heavy internet supports from an insane collection of anti-war activists, drug legalization advocates, polygamists, obsessive anti-semites, conspiracy theorists, 9/11 truthers and so on

it's an intersection of insanity, half the time when you dig into an RP supporter, you find the guy is a shrieking loony

Paul's positions were fairly well known to this Granite-Stater well before the TNR article. Quite frankly, his comments within the context of the Rodney King riots were much more "main-stream" than any poster within this thread has acknowledged. As shocking as the original RK beating video was to some, the scenes from the immediate aftermath of the acquittal were terrifying. Stores burning, Korean shopkeepers trying to defend their shops with bird/clays shotguns, and a white Trucker dragged from his rig and nearly beaten to death as his oppressed ethnic demographic attackers celebrated.

Paul's statements resonated with many, and he piled on with some hyperbole (a consistent theme in many of the TNR excerpts). It should be fairly obvious that after 30 years, his electorate knows who he is, and approves. More nauseating really, is that he's trying to spin his way around these newsletter entries. He said what he said, or approved of the message, and likely at the time (and probably still does) thought the remarks were appropriate to the audience he was seeking to reach.

I think the only "revelation" from TNR and other news outlets is that from Paul's responses, he may be seeking to "broaden his base". Otherwise, why try to spin? Paul's a fairly known entity to many of us around here, his supporters that I know would fall into the "his newsletter comments are no problem to me".

Folks, we live in a world where there is diversity of thought. Any "shock factor" over the revelations of TNR are a sign of "political innocence lost" I would suggest.

re: MLK jr and the holiday, I saw it as a pandering gesture by Reagan that had little practical effect other then to swap attention and admiration from a truly great champion of civil rights (Abraham Lincoln) for a decidedly poor substitute. While MLK jr spoke of character as being the defining attribute, the heirs to his legacy have consistently made pigmentation and victimization their rallying cries. Cosby, Keyes, Steel, and to some extent Powell and Rice have tried to "raise the bar" (certainly Thomas has) of expectations.

After decades in a Fortune 50ish company, I'm quite convinced in the resident capabilities of my colleagues who are pigmentally different than I am. It seems that for those born in the USA, far too many have bought into the cultural limitations that Jackson, Sharpton and others (many of decidedly pale skin with a D next to their name) have incessantly put into their minds.

If this perspective makes me a racist, so be it. I'm not going to be enslaved by the "consensus view", I know my heart as does my Creator.

Keep Safe,
-N

I've yet to see any of these things mentioned by the major news organizations...and I suspect I won't see any of them mention it. If this was Rudy Guliani or Mitt Romney it'd be front page news on the Times, Post, etc.

I still think the media want Paul to be the third-party, "divide the Republican/conservative vote" this November. So they're not going to jeopardize that possibility with, you know, the truth and stuff like that.

Why the f*ck is the RNC and the major news organizations still allowing this frigging animal to play in their debates and primaries. It is a stain on the Republican party and the process in general. I am disgusted.

re: #48 Killian Bundy

Adjusted for inflation to 1980's prices, gold would be over $2000 an ounce now. Lots of things cost more now until you factor in inflation. I suppose oil is still below its highs also. And even there, use of oil and by-products are much more efficient.
I wonder why silver hasn't kept up with the increase in price of gold? Perhaps the switch to digital photography plays some role?

TiVO alert!

Ronnie Paul will appear live on CNN's Situation Room with Wolf Blitz-me-baby in moments to explain his comments in those newsletters.

Somehow, the Blitzer interview didn't convince me. I did, however, get a kick out of the way he cited his position on drug laws (getting rid of them) as proof that he isn't a racist. Yikes.

I am an avid reader and big supporter of LGF. I love this place. But I do not understand the obsession with Ron Paul. Honestly, who cares what he wrote about 17 years ago. I went to his website and was surprised by how much I agreed with what he has to say. I know that is not the whole story but some of you people here seem like the anti-RonPaulians. If he is that much of a quack as you say then what's the bother?

Please, do not write me off as some RP apologist or marainalize me. I am a strong conservative that identifies with 98% of what goes on around here. Just my 2cents. I don't get it.

Thanks,
Matt

What a person does throughout his life tells alot about what makes that person tick.

That's the reason for the 'obsession'.

re: #194 MrMastadon

I am an avid reader and big supporter of LGF. I love this place. But I do not understand the obsession with Ron Paul. Honestly, who cares what he wrote about 17 years ago. I went to his website and was surprised by how much I agreed with what he has to say. I know that is not the whole story but some of you people here seem like the anti-RonPaulians. If he is that much of a quack as you say then what's the bother?

Please, do not write me off as some RP apologist or marainalize me. I am a strong conservative that identifies with 98% of what goes on around here. Just my 2cents. I don't get it.

Thanks,
Matt

Normally, if 98% is fine, who cares if, say, 2% is off?

Unless the 2% happens to be pure cyanide.

No thanks. Not interested in drinking from that cup, no matter how innocuous it appears at first glance.

re: #11 grumpy old codger

When Ron Paul drops out, will he endorse Obama?

On Glenn Beck's radio show one of the Paulbots called in and asked why he didn't interview the only man that can save America... (bla bla bla) Glenn answered. Then Glenn asked the guy who he would vote for if Ron Paul didn't get the nomination. His answer... "Obama"

You know because they are so much alike. The momentum is building!

re: #194 MrMastadon

I am an avid reader and big supporter of LGF. I love this place. But I do not understand the obsession with Ron Paul. Honestly, who cares what he wrote about 17 years ago. I went to his website and was surprised by how much I agreed with what he has to say. I know that is not the whole story but some of you people here seem like the anti-RonPaulians. If he is that much of a quack as you say then what's the bother?

Wow, I am also a life long democrat who has always voted Conservative! I learned about Ron Paul and thought he is just like me! Then I found out that 167% of the military supports him! Surveys from around the world would love Ron Paul as the President of the United States! That the founding fathers have actually donated to his campaign! I have a great family and a really good high paying job! You should look into him just like me 'cause he is super! Don't knock him out, the momentum is building!

Dang Charles, your software takes out multiple exclamation points, those ad to the stupidity of comments.

Cripes man, that sarcasm gets really tiring really fast. Everybody wants to be the funny guy. When it comes to Ron Paul, this place is like dailykos. You cannot ask an honest question or have any reasonable dialogue it is immediately discounted and margainalized. I am serious, I went to the website and was really surprised. Please, go and tell me what you find so loony. I have 3 small daughters and what he says about schools is refreshing. I did not read everything but if there is something I am missing please point it out.

re: #198 DoubleU

re: #194 MrMastadon

I am an avid reader and big supporter of LGF. I love this place. But I do not understand the obsession with Ron Paul. Honestly, who cares what he wrote about 17 years ago. I went to his website and was surprised by how much I agreed with what he has to say. I know that is not the whole story but some of you people here seem like the anti-RonPaulians. If he is that much of a quack as you say then what's the bother?

Wow, I am also a life long democrat who has always voted Conservative! I learned about Ron Paul and thought he is just like me! Then I found out that 167% of the military supports him! Surveys from around the world would love Ron Paul as the President of the United States! That the founding fathers have actually donated to his campaign! I have a great family and a really good high paying job! You should look into him just like me 'cause he is super! Don't knock him out, the momentum is building!

Ironically, MLK day was a "zero cost" holiday to the feds. Most of you may not remember, but we used to have two observed holidays in February; Washington's Birthday and Lincoln's Birthday. Congress merged these two into Presidents Day, and used the spare holiday slot to provide MLK day.

Here in Virgina, it will be a four day holiday. On the preceding Friday we celebrate a joint holiday for the births of Robert E Lee and Stonewall Jackson. "Lee - Jackson Day". There's diversity for you!

In Virginia, we also don't celebrate "Presidents Day." It's "Washington's Birthday." Lincoln is still persona non grata here.

re: #200 MrMastadon

Cripes man, that sarcasm gets really tiring really fast. Everybody wants to be the funny guy. When it comes to Ron Paul, this place is like dailykos. You cannot ask an honest question or have any reasonable dialogue it is immediately discounted and margainalized. I am serious, I went to the website and was really surprised. Please, go and tell me what you find so loony. I have 3 small daughters and what he says about schools is refreshing. I did not read everything but if there is something I am missing please point it out.

re: #198 DoubleU

re: #194 MrMastadon

I am an avid reader and big supporter of LGF. I love this place. But I do not understand the obsession with Ron Paul. Honestly, who cares what he wrote about 17 years ago. I went to his website and was surprised by how much I agreed with what he has to say. I know that is not the whole story but some of you people here seem like the anti-RonPaulians. If he is that much of a quack as you say then what's the bother?

Wow, I am also a life long democrat who has always voted Conservative! I learned about Ron Paul and thought he is just like me! Then I found out that 167% of the military supports him! Surveys from around the world would love Ron Paul as the President of the United States! That the founding fathers have actually donated to his campaign! I have a great family and a really good high paying job! You should look into him just like me 'cause he is super! Don't knock him out, the momentum is building!

Here a week and only two posts, both about Herr Doctor Paul. Why's that? Why do I devote time to him? (I can't speak for others)
I slam him every chance I get because racism and antisemitism are ugly. So is being homophobic. His theories mimic the protocols of the elders of zion, he has aligned himself with the troofer movement, and is flat out wrong regarding presidential war powers and other constitutional issues as well. The RNC should expel him like they did Duke in 90.

"Here a week and only two posts"

That is fair, but do you have any idea how long I have been trying to register? I have been reading this everyday for 2 years I bet and finally was able to register. Remember not too long ago registration was NEVER open? Maybe if I posted these in different topics you would have more of a point, but I just got registered 2 days ago I think and was responding to the rudeness.

Even though your response still had to be snarky it was much better than anyone else. As far as his website, is there anything there that objectionable? All I am saying is that the rhetoric I have been reading here for so long, and I mean there must be 4 topics a day here on the guy, and what I found on his website do not match up. It was really weird. Am I wrong? I am not passing judgement here but it is just an observation.

RONPAULCALYPSE NOW!